Open Thread – Fri 20 Oct 2023


St Jerome Writing, Caravaggio, 1605-1606

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mizaris
mizaris
October 20, 2023 12:07 am

Oooh 1th

mizaris
mizaris
October 20, 2023 12:07 am

Good morning Eastern Australia…

Caveman
Caveman
October 20, 2023 12:07 am

๐Ÿ™‚

mizaris
mizaris
October 20, 2023 12:07 am

Hellooooo….

mizaris
mizaris
October 20, 2023 12:12 am

Excellent series…”Spy Ops”.

Currently watching the episodes on the “Wrath of God”.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 20, 2023 12:32 am

His name is Cash!

The reactions from people tell the story.

woof bark growl:

Cash 2.0 Great Dane on Main Street in Ventura 10

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 20, 2023 1:04 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 20, 2023 1:33 am
Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 20, 2023 2:20 am

Tim Mathison after his court decision wants his privacy back so is changing his name to Mustafa.

Mustafa Nipple.
๐Ÿ˜‰

NFA
NFA
October 20, 2023 3:14 am

dover0beach

You would think that St Jerome would pick the “gunk” out of his skulls teeth!

NFA
NFA
October 20, 2023 3:21 am

Steve trickler Oct 20, 2023 1:33 AM

Thank you Steve.

Great driving and great camera work.

I love Sprint Car Racing.

Tom
Tom
October 20, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
October 20, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
October 20, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
October 20, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
October 20, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 20, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
October 20, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 20, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
October 20, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
October 20, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
October 20, 2023 4:10 am
The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
October 20, 2023 5:40 am

News of Sidney Powell’s plea deal illustrates the depths to which US justice has sunk. This harks back to CCP Gang of Four territory. In this case gang of eighteen.
DOJ and Judicial corruption is downstream of media corruption, and there’s a heap of that; keeping the bastards honest just isn’t happening.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
October 20, 2023 6:12 am

Woman accuses Icebergers of peering and leering. Says they should take a cold shower.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2023 6:17 am

For those interested in such things, today the PJC that oversees ASIC will more than likely end the career of a public servant.
Or should I say, end the tax payer funded career of a public servant.
Most of these ASIC types end up with roles with the companies they were previously regulating.
It’s being streamed from 9am onwards on the aph.gov.au website.

132andBush
132andBush
October 20, 2023 6:32 am

Just when you thought Leak couldn’t get any better!

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2023 6:33 am

Biden going to Israel to send the message that the US is will support them in their extermination of Hamas is a good thing.
Rishi going, ok, support is good but the US is the only one that really matters.
But Newsom, Hochul going with others planning?
Who else?
Geez, this is not a photo op.
How about making clear in your home cities & states that while hostages are still being held, marching to “support Palestine” is actually marching to support Hamas.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2023 6:37 am

Maybe before the Hamas apologists start on their ceasefire & “both sides have done bad things” they start off with demanding the release of the Israeli hostages?
I didn’t see Husic say anything about that yesterday.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2023 6:45 am

He should try out for AWFL as a forward.

Aussie Trans-Identified Male Football Coach Included in โ€˜Hottest 100 Womenโ€™ List (19 Oct)

A transgender-identified biological male football coach has made an Australian magazine list charting Hot 100 women of the world for the second year in a row.

The list, released Wednesday and compiled by Maxim Australia, is intended to showcase the most successful and beautiful women in entertainment, sport and pop culture.

It ranked former Australian Rules player turned coach Danielle Laidley in 92nd place, prompting an immediate response from critics.

He โ€œofficiallyโ€ announced his transition in 2020, shocking many fans with his dramatic transformation from โ€œDeanโ€ to โ€œDani.โ€

And I wouldn’t say hot either. Ugly more like. Maybe a lesbian might find him attractive.

rosie
rosie
October 20, 2023 6:51 am
calli
calli
October 20, 2023 6:57 am

That isnโ€™t a โ€œhotโ€ woman. Itโ€™s a rather ordinary looking man in a dress.

calli
calli
October 20, 2023 7:00 am

The al Bakris might have had other families staying with them.

After the so-called โ€œhospital strikeโ€, I wouldnโ€™t believe anything that came out of Gaza, endorsed by doctors or not. We even had numpty medicos at Liverpool hospital here demonstrating over something that didnโ€™t happen.

Petros
Petros
October 20, 2023 7:03 am

Why are so many construction companies collapsing? Is the spate of bankruptcies in this sector due to the ATO no longer going easy on them as they were during the pandemic?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2023 7:05 am

Your proposal is acceptable.

Cher Says She will Leave the U.S. if Trump Gets Re-elected (18 Oct)

Not New Zealand this time though lady, there’s been a change in management.

calli
calli
October 20, 2023 7:07 am

Downturn in demand, increased materials and wages costs eating into margins from fixed contracts, cash flow problems.

No idea about the ATO. Never saw evidence of them going easy on anyone at any time. The government was free and easy with cash handouts during the pandemic, but thatโ€™s a different thing.

rosie
rosie
October 20, 2023 7:08 am

The lack of follow up from the alleged death toll in the hospital carpark is odd.
I suppose people might having been in their cars at 7 pm but it seems more likely they were inside buildings.

calli
calli
October 20, 2023 7:08 am

She said that last time. I donโ€™t believe her. What would her life be if she couldnโ€™t whinge about Orange Man Bad.

rosie
rosie
October 20, 2023 7:09 am

Who sends their toddlers to stay with an hamas leader when Israel is after that leader?
Oh wait.

rosie
rosie
October 20, 2023 7:12 am

Building costs going through roof, difficult to get trades?
Family members renovations were supposed to be finished Dec 2022.
Still not back in their house.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 7:14 am

An epic demolition of the dumb dumb Tartaria theory.

https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/s/bO8fyWNe2v

calli
calli
October 20, 2023 7:16 am

Rosie, I donโ€™t believe the pulverised toddler lineup either. It might have happened, but the record of truthfulness coming from Gaza has always been woeful.

I wanted Israel to keep their feet to the flames until they released the hostages. Looks like the rest of the world doesnโ€™t want that to happen. As for โ€œinnocent Gazansโ€ Iโ€™m sure they exist, but at least no one got to enjoy their looted stuff from the Israeli villages for long.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 7:20 am

Ha ha that transexual footballer reminded me of someone then it came to me – Lucy Spews Trumble

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
October 20, 2023 7:21 am

Not The News:
Feminist HQ gears up for new campaign. Fashion houses to be urged to rename The Catwalk.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 7:24 am

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calli
Oct 20, 2023 6:57 AM
That isnโ€™t a โ€œhotโ€ woman. Itโ€™s a rather ordinary looking man in a dress.

Straight men like Ana Beatriz Barros and Jessica Alba.

Not other men.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
October 20, 2023 7:33 am

$7000 is one expensive nipple-suck & fondle.
My research indicates that you could get an hour or two with a willing and professional entire woman for about $700.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
October 20, 2023 7:36 am

the record of truthfulness coming from Gaza has always been woeful.
Now the entire Arab Street is up in arms saying the Israelis did bomb the hospital. The misfired missile story is rejected outright.
There are no “innocents” in so many of these places – apart from children too young to be indoctrinated.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
October 20, 2023 7:39 am

The media world has forgotten that Saddam was also a hostage taker, and that his sons were rapists and murderers.

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 20, 2023 7:41 am

I don’t watch much tele, can someone explain who the two sheilas are in Leak’s cartoon. Ann Aly and Bridget McKenzie?

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 20, 2023 7:44 am

Kylea Tink and Sophie Scamps, the Teal MPโ€™s who support Hamas are depicted in Leaks cartoon.

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2023 7:46 am

I donโ€™t watch much tele, can someone explain who the two sheilas are in Leakโ€™s cartoon. Ann Aly and Bridget McKenzie?”

The two are Teals…Kylea Stink and Sophie Scamps.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 20, 2023 7:49 am

The Bungonia Bee
Oct 20, 2023 7:21 AM
Not The News:
Feminist HQ gears up for new campaign. Fashion houses to be urged to rename The Catwalk.

The Pussy Prance?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2023 7:49 am

That isnโ€™t a โ€œhotโ€ woman.

I’ll wait for cohenite’s opinion.

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 20, 2023 7:50 am

Thanks Cassie. I was completely wrong!

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2023 7:51 am

Laidley is a biological male. End of story.

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 20, 2023 7:51 am

Thanks also HZ.

Indolent
Indolent
October 20, 2023 7:52 am

What we already knew. Most “trans” are simply mental cases.

Trans prof at Chicago university says Israelis are ‘savages’ in unhinged rant

Indolent
Indolent
October 20, 2023 7:53 am
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2023 7:55 am

Quenthland cultural news (the CM):

Queensland public servants have been offered five daysโ€™ special paid leave for psychological distress if they are grieving the outcome of the failed Voice to Parliament referendum.

Public Sector Commissioner David Mackie wrote to directors-general this week saying they could offer workers special leave โ€“ an entitlement that is usually unpaid โ€“ in addition to the sick leave.

In an email seen by The Courier-Mail, Mr Mackie said the initiative was to ensure government workplaces were kept psychologically and culturally safe after the referendum result.

Psychologically and culturally safe.

‘Here’s a week off – paid – if you think you need it. We know you won’t take advantage of our idiocy in any way, shape or form.’

An absolute admission that productivity takes a distant second place to image.

Indolent
Indolent
October 20, 2023 7:55 am
Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 8:00 am

‘professor’ is a dirty word. Like ‘doctor’.

shatterzzz
October 20, 2023 8:02 am

Indolent
Oct 20, 2023 7:54 AM
Why Egypt and other Arab countries are unwilling to take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza

Not really a ‘reason” more an excuse plus very HAMAS leaning interpretation ……!
Reality is neither Egypt or Jordan want them .. cos they are TROUBLE! ……

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 20, 2023 8:02 am

I meant Bridget Archer not McKenzie as well. My synapses donโ€™t seem to be firing this morning.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2023 8:03 am

More Quenthland news:

A Logan stay at home mum has faced court after sending a series of explicit texts, images and videos to a teenage boy.

Beenleigh District Court heard 20-year-old Logan Central woman Shaynice Marie Thrush

Yes.

sent a photo of herself in a G-string to a teenage boy under the age of 16.

Thrush also sent a video of her masturbating with a sex toy and several text messages with explicit, sexual language.

‘Thrush me baby. Thrush me hard.’

Police then became aware of the offending and Thrush said she was embarrassed and was smoking a lot of cannabis at the time.

Probably medicinal. For the thrush.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 8:04 am

The public service is anything but. Like what they used to say about Ku-ring-gai council – run by the staff for the staff

Tom
Tom
October 20, 2023 8:05 am

That isnโ€™t a โ€œhotโ€ woman. Itโ€™s a rather ordinary looking man in a dress.

A very sad case, Calli. Dean Laidley used to coach North Melbourne in the AFL.

Then he came down with a full-blown case of gender dysmorphia — and, of course, even otherwise credible media have gone along with the charade and have made him a celebrity.

Dean now calls himself “Danni”.

I have an old bloke in my neighborhood who has gender dysmorphia and dresses like a female — like Laidley, a tragic human misfit.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2023 8:05 am

There are no โ€œinnocentsโ€ in so many of these places โ€“ apart from children too young to be indoctrinated.

There are some Christians in Gaza, and the hospital is run a Christian organization. But overwhelmingly the denizens of Gaza are enemies of Israel.

There are no ‘innocent’ Palestinians in Gaza (19 Oct)

I was reviewing a recent poll of Gazans issued by the Israel Advocacy Movement. The results of the poll indicated that 57% of Gazans supported Hamas, while 71% had a favorable opinion of Palestinian Islamic Jihad. These numbers were then compared unfavorably to the 44% of Germans who voted for the Nazis. Clearly, there are no โ€œinnocentโ€ Palestinians in Gaza.

Nevertheless it is appropriate to minimize casualties while leveling all the buildings. Hence the safe zone, and Hamas’s attempts to prevent Gazans trying to get there.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 8:05 am

โ€˜professorโ€™ is a dirty word. Like โ€˜doctorโ€™.

Engineer too. That diversity hire chick with the Arab double barrelled shotgun name ruined it for me.

That was a huge red pill and weโ€™re all better for it.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 8:06 am

Dirty bitch

shatterzzz
October 20, 2023 8:06 am

Citibank FIRES glamorous banker Nozima Husainova after she posted vile anti-Semitic post about Jewish people following Hamas terror attacks: โ€˜No wonder Hitler wanted rid of themโ€™

Gotta luv the Mail Online .. threw in “glamorous” to ensure the clickbait .. nuttin’ to do with he story but a great excuse for pix …….!

Pogria
Pogria
October 20, 2023 8:08 am

calli
Oct 20, 2023 6:57 AM
That isnโ€™t a โ€œhotโ€ woman. Itโ€™s a rather ordinary looking man in a dress.

Every time I see that creep, I want to knee him in the nuts. Back in the “Good old Days”, he wouldn’t have been lauded as a “brave”, trannie, he’d have been one of those creepy cross-dressers you sometimes glimpsed when you went to see a friend and “dad” didn’t know you were expected.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 8:09 am

The pot smoking slag in Qld that is

shatterzzz
October 20, 2023 8:10 am

There are no โ€œinnocentsโ€ in so many of these places โ€“ apart from children too young to be indoctrinated.

Now you’ve upset both Luigi & the chap .. they know those 16 Oz “rorters” living in Gaza are innocents .. I meanz imagine Oz citizens supporting terrorism ……..!

calli
calli
October 20, 2023 8:19 am

Pyorrhoea Stink and Trampie Stamps.

Got it.

If youโ€™re so supportive of the terrorists, pop over to Gaza and โ€œsupportโ€.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 8:23 am

Hamas is some kind of AI that HR uses to do its dirty work, right?

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 8:24 am

The Murray Watt sounds like a nasty PoS. Another effing lawyer too. Sounds like the despicable mediocrity dissed Heston Russell

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 8:25 am

Imagine Borat on that name.

Sheโ€™nice, Maryโ€™s Thrush!

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 8:26 am

What’s Steggles up to these days?

bons
bons
October 20, 2023 8:26 am

The pot smoking slag in Qld that is

At least she has given up on the Treaty.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 20, 2023 8:27 am

Why Egypt and other Arab countries are unwilling
to take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza

Meanwhile, Humza Yousaf of the Inverness Yousafs wants to throw open Scotchland’s doors to his in-laws.

calli
calli
October 20, 2023 8:28 am

The arabs have to believe Israel hit the still standing hospital and killed 500 non existent corpses. It soothes what little remains of their consciences.

I watched that smooth faced Anne Ali (Islamโ€™s โ€œmodern and feminineโ€ front woman) trying to taqiya her way around her support for Gaza, rabitting on about collective punishment.

Sorry Anne. The Gazans should have thought about that before their sneak attack on the 7th, indiscriminately killing children and babies, mothers, grandmothers and grandfathers. And looting handily now unowned property over the bodies of the slain.

They didnโ€™t look for military aged men. In fact, they ran from them.

Pogria
Pogria
October 20, 2023 8:28 am

Miltonf
Oct 20, 2023 8:24 AM
The Murray Watt sounds like a nasty PoS. Another effing lawyer too. Sounds like the despicable mediocrity dissed Heston Russell

Watt is another “crushed nut sac”, voice like Wilkie. I wonder if they share the same clamp?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2023 8:28 am

In Floundering news:

NSW to review treaty consultation plan after voice referendum defeat

The New South Wales government will review part of its state treaty consultation plan, a key election promise, in the wake of the crushing federal referendum defeat on the voice to parliament.

The government isnโ€™t confirming the appointment of three commissioners to oversee the process as planned โ€“ and previously outlined by the Aboriginal affairs and treaty minister, David Harris, in April. Sources say the consultation process and timeline will now be reviewed.

But, unlike Queensland, this isnโ€™t driven by electoral considerations. Not at all:

In NSW, some Labor MPs said the hesitation in pushing ahead with their plan was less about concerns stemming from negative voter sentiment in Labor heartlands, and more about assessing the appetite for another process among a community in mourning.

Noice.
Thatโ€™s probably what Albanese is doing, too.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 8:30 am

A magistrate of culture would have demanded to see all of the young men over 18 on Bumble she has rejected – you know all of the losers either getting a degree (but with โ€œrealโ€ no money yet) or with โ€œrealโ€ money doing a (filthy) trade (ewww).

To rub it in (no Shaynice, not rub one out) – societally damaging hypergamy is not cool.

calli
calli
October 20, 2023 8:31 am

Oh, and good morning to you, my dear little Hamas supporting fanboi. Lovely day out there.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 8:31 am

I truely believe most of the good people got out of Scotland in the nineteenth century

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 20, 2023 8:32 am

Lisa Wilkinson did a dummy spit with Channel 10, spent $700k and now wants them to pay for it:


Wilkinson was employed by Network 10 and was entitled to use Thomson Geer, the law firm the network has on retainer, but she decided to hire Sue Chrysanthou SC and Gillis Delaney Lawyers partner Anthony Jefferies instead.

She invoiced the network for more than $700,000 and is now suing the network for failing to pay the fees.

Now, Daily Mail Australia understands she chose to hire her own team because Thomson Geer’s Matthew Collins SC criticised her on Seven’s Sunrise breakfast program on June 23, 2022 – the day after her Logies speech.

Daily Mail

Pogria
Pogria
October 20, 2023 8:34 am

Liz Storer gave Simple Jack a good spray last night. As usual, Simple Jack straddles the fence and was yabbering about “innocent” Palestinians who hate Hamas.
Liz roared back with if “ordinary” Pally’s hate Hamas, what do you call the ones protesting in Sydney, Melbourne etc.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 8:35 am

Politics really attracts the worst trash imaginable. Grifters, bludgers and Marxist wreckers. Unis have a lot to answer for birm.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2023 8:37 am

The arabs have to believe Israel hit the still standing hospital and killed 500 non existent corpses. It soothes what little remains of their consciences.

Their ABC goes Hmmm?

Deleted posts, edited videos and competing narratives: What the evidence says about the Gaza hospital blast

Jazz hands – and strange lack of curiosity about the absence of a huge crater and the rubble is that apparently covered the 500 bodies.

But backed up by impeccable authorities:

Regardless of the assessments suggesting a Palestinian rocket caused the blast at al-Ahli Arab hospital, governments around the Middle East are nevertheless blaming Israel.

So. Slam dunk.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2023 8:43 am

I truely believe most of the good people got out of Scotland in the nineteenth century

Escuse?
Iโ€™m thinking $500k for psychological harm, another $500k for punitive damages to prevent this outrage happening again, plus costs.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
October 20, 2023 8:45 am

The Godiva Foundation to sponsor a new group: Riding for the Deshabille.

calli
calli
October 20, 2023 8:46 am

Ooooo. That must have stung. You used both devices. ๐Ÿ˜€

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 20, 2023 8:50 am

the absence of a huge crater…

I’m waiting for Israel’s sooper sekrit Orbital DEW Platform
to get a run.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 8:54 am

Iโ€™m waiting for Israelโ€™s sooper sekrit Orbital DEW Platform
to get a run.

You may fire at will Admiral Tarkin.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 8:54 am

How many plucky Arab kids grow up with their Uncles on a condensation farm?

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 20, 2023 8:54 am

calli
Oct 20, 2023 7:16 AM
Rosie, I donโ€™t believe the pulverised toddler lineup either.

Imo that photo is suspect. All of the bodies look exactly the same, both in size and position. Others with expertise may have further insight into the possibilities.

And while I understand that the place has been full of pain and suffering for generations, all of it self-inflicted, the attitude and demeanour of the adults is also strange.

Yes, itโ€™s only one photo. But thereโ€™s absolutely no emotion toward the bodies of these tiny children? No tears? No hunching of shoulders because of the sheer awfulness of whatโ€™s before these people? No looking away? Instead theyโ€™re all focusing on the โ€œDoctorโ€.

In fact it reminds me of a play acting scenario for a Red Cross First Aid course.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 8:55 am

Sorry

Rav Aluf Piett

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 8:57 am

The pot smoking slag in Qld

Thatโ€™s no way to talk to hundreds of thousands of possible Cat readers & commenters.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2023 8:58 am

And you wonder where your taxes go when The Australian is posting this – The Kiddies who vote TEAL & Green will be happy with this one!

RETIREMENT

Death tax will tempt Canberra, predicts Super Fund

Although politically toxic, death taxes and other hits on super may be considered in the future as the population ages and baby boomers leave assets to their children, a seminar has heard.

By GLENDA KORPORAAL

Meanwhile in NSW Under Labor – 23 Ministers with Amazing Number of Multiple Titles and a Bureaucracy for each Title

But this one takes the Cake

Graham, John

MLC (Legislative Council)
Special Minister of State
Minister for Roads
Minister for the Arts
Minister for Music and the Night-time Economy
Minister for Jobs and Tourism
Deputy Leader of the Government in the Legislative Council
Australian Labor Party member

Best of Luck Kiddies with The Inheritance you won’t get with Death Taxes

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 20, 2023 9:00 am

Building costs going through roof, difficult to get trades?

In Vikistan, unionism (via certification) is virtually compulsory. This has more impact than material costs.

Do you have a “carrying a paint tin” certificate?

John Brumble
John Brumble
October 20, 2023 9:03 am

The police week off also neatly punishes those who dared express the wrong opinion in the work place.

Itโ€™s much harder to pretend everyone agrees with you when people are allowed (i.e. not discriminated against) to not..donchya know.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 20, 2023 9:06 am

CrisisFully also walking back a Queenthland treaty.

It’s like some kind of Seinfeld episode.
Yeah, what I said was No to the Voice, but what meant was No to everything.
Y’see, I was looking at Voice, but I was talkin’ to Treaty.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2023 9:07 am

How was copper wire invented?

Someone dropped a penny in the street in between 2 Scotsmen.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2023 9:10 am

Voice loss heralds Laborโ€™s third great split

Two earlier schisms divided the parliamentary party. This time itโ€™s Labor MPs who have split from the people who vote for them.

John Roskam Columnist

The Labor Party has gone through two splits in its history. And while it might not know it yet โ€“ itโ€™s now going through its third. Conscription was the cause of the first split in 1916; communism the cause of the second in 1955; and culture is the cause of the split occurring at the moment.

The difference between the two earlier splits and the current one is that in the first two it was Laborโ€™s parliamentary party that split, while Saturdayโ€™s Voice referendum result reveals that itโ€™s Labor MPs who have split from the people who vote for them.

Make no mistake, โ€œseismicโ€ is the best word for the many consequences of the referendum outcome.

Indigenous policy will never be the same as it has made the Coalitionโ€™s overt and sometimes tacit support at the federal and state level for the measures first put in place by Gough Whitlam and Herbert Coombs 50 years ago unsustainable.

Within just four days of the 69 per cent No vote in Queensland the Liberal National Party reversed its previous endorsement of state-based treaties.

The short-term and medium-term political repercussions for Anthony Albanese of the defeat of the referendum are hugely significant.

There are no parallels between Anthony Albaneseโ€™s Voice referendum loss in 2023 and Bob Hawkeโ€™s referendum losses in 1984 and 1988. For one thing, Hawke understood Australia โ€“ Albanese doesnโ€™t.

For one thing, Hawke understood Australia โ€“ Albanese doesnโ€™t.

Albanese has made the Voice the centrepiece of his first-term agenda. In his victory speech on election night in May 2022 he said, โ€œI begin by acknowledging the traditional owners of the land on which we meet. I pay my respects to their elders past, present and emerging. And on behalf of the Australian Labor Party, I commit to the Uluru Statement from the Heart in full.โ€

Albanese wanted both his prime ministership and the ALP to be defined by the Voice โ€“ and they will be.

The referendum was not a solitary frolic of the prime minister.

The Voice embodied the ideology of identity politics and critical race theory thatโ€™s been embraced by the Labor Party and the labour movement.

All of the ALP owns the Voice and the idea of the countryโ€™s culture and society the Voice represents, just as much as does Anthony Albanese.

Sitting on a TV panel during the referendum count on Saturday night, Communications Minister Michelle Rowland, who is also president of the NSW branch of the ALP, said something revealing: โ€œI donโ€™t think Iโ€™ve met a single person in the Labor Party who doesnโ€™t support this [the Voice] either.โ€

Thatโ€™s how political parties break, perhaps not overnight, but eventually.

Sixty-one per cent of Australians voted No to a proposal supported by every federal and state Labor MP. (In contrast, the views of Liberal MPs on the Voice reflected the diversity of opinion among the public โ€“ most Liberal MPs opposed the Voice, some supported it, and a few were afraid to reveal their position.)

Meanwhile, 40 per cent of Labor voters chose No.

โ€œOut of touchโ€ doesnโ€™t come close to describing the Labor Partyโ€™s relationship to the Australian electorate as evidenced by the Voice referendum.

It continues an obvious trend. The ALPโ€™s primary vote of 32.6 per cent at the 2022 federal election was the partyโ€™s lowest vote since 1903.

In August, Albanese launched the Yes campaign at the Playford Civic Centre in the working-class suburb of Elizabeth in Adelaide, in the federal seat of Spence.

At the federal election, Spence voted, on a party-preferred basis, 63 per cent Labor, 37 per cent Liberal. On Saturday, Spence voted 73 per cent No. At the polling booth 400 metres from the civic centre itself the No vote was 74 per cent. It was a trend repeated in similar suburbs across the country.

Elizabeth is the home of โ€œthe Howard battlers and then someโ€. The side of politics, either Labor or Liberal, that will fight hardest for what the people of Elizabeth want and need, will be the side that wonโ€™t only win the next federal election โ€“ it will be the side that deserves to win it.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 20, 2023 9:11 am

How many sugars does a Scotsman have in his tea?

He likes to have two, but if he’s at home he has one and if he’s visiting he has three.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 20, 2023 9:12 am

It’s amazing how people can dismiss this stuff so they can remain warm and cozy in their bubble.

===

My Lunch Break:

Today, we dive into an insane narrative that has master slave builders. Then we take a trip and get our boots on the ground in Oshkosh Wisconsin where they have the Tartarian symbol right on the front of their building!

Welcome to Tartaria, Wisconsin?

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 9:12 am

Hmmm

Aussie side of family explained English thrift to me in an opportune way.

See that goldfish doing a poo right now? Thatโ€™s what the English side are like with money.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 9:16 am

Today, we dive into an insane narrative that has master slave builders. Then we take a trip and get our boots on the ground in Oshkosh Wisconsin where they have the Tartarian symbol right on the front of their building!

Why do believe this nonsense? It is rooted in paranoid Russian folk nationalism that refuses to accept Ghengis Khan conquered most of the known world.

The idea is that Ghengis Khan was actually Russian.

It is a retarded idea. Junk this absurd, evidence avoiding ideology at once.

There is a link up thread to a masterful debunking of all of this nonsense.

You canโ€™t even say what year da mud flood occurred.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2023 9:18 am

How many Scotsmen does it take to change a lightbulb?

None, theyd rather sit in the dark and blame the English (Or Margaret ‘Fatcher)

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 9:18 am

You canโ€™t do serious archeological research by watching you tube.

Robert Schoch did some very controversial and groundbreaking work with Firestone et al., – they had boots on the ground and got physical samples analysed. Their theories were validated by the results.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2023 9:20 am

Dr Faustus

Oct 20, 2023 8:28 AM

In Floundering news:

NSW to review treaty consultation plan after voice referendum defeat

“Review” = Sir Humphrey speak for “screwed”.
Queensland Tweetie goneski.
NSW about to follow suit.
When will John Prosciutto timidly put his hand up.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 20, 2023 9:29 am

I suspect dot does not have a Cert II in blog posting.

I’m sure a comrade will report him. Those who don’t report him are just as guilty.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 20, 2023 9:31 am

Johannes Leak is indeed in a very rich vein of form. Because there is a great deal to work with. Albo daily, maybe twice says something stupid. The idiot Teals. Teh Voice proponents. A joy to see each morning. Thank you to Tom bringing these toons to this forum.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 20, 2023 9:34 am

Queensland Tweetie goneski.

Not sure about that.

Pileoshit like Sleazy tells different audiences what they want to hear.

Publicly she says it’s dead, yet Nein Brisbane were reporting that Pileoshit addressed a parliamentary labour meeting called at short notice, and said basically nothing has changed. I suppose she is still deluded in thinking she can win the next election.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2023 9:35 am

Cher Says She will Leave the U.S. if Trump Gets Re-elected (18 Oct)

Hasn’t she made that threat last time Trump was elected?

P
P
October 20, 2023 9:36 am

Time to send menโ€™s rugby back to school
By Marcus Middleton – October 20, 2023

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 9:39 am

Marxist identity politics and CRT- shit imported from the US and embraced by the alp.

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2023 9:39 am

Pileoshit addressed a parliamentary labour meeting called at short notice, and said basically nothing has changed.

Well she would say that, wouldn’t she?

Caucus is dominated by the Left.

I’d say her leadership has never been more tenuous.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 9:40 am

They really hate the electorate.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 9:40 am

I think I’ve distilled the Tartarian architecture conspiracy down to it’s core essence: extreme masonry skepticism. These people don’t believe past humans (or maybe even current ones) are capable of building with stone, so they see a nice bank from 1910 and think it’s an inexplicable wonder.

It just boggles the mind how little one must know about anything for these conspiracies to make sense.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 9:41 am

So the chook is between a rock and a hard place.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 9:42 am

Matt Groening is a Tartarian. In the “Simpsons: Hit and Run” videogame, one mission has Lisa rescuing 3-eyed mutant fish from lake Springfield. Each time she rescues a fish, she says “now you’ll never be fried and served with tartar sauce”. The 3-eyed fish represents the 3rd eye of knowledge, which is to say secret knowledge of Tartaria, while the tartar(ia) sauce represents mudfloods. This is my second ever comment on BadHistory, and both comments have been about Lisa Simpson.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2023 9:42 am

alwaysright
Oct 20, 2023 9:00 AM

Building costs going through roof, difficult to get trades?

In Vikistan, unionism (via certification) is virtually compulsory. This has more impact than material costs.

Do you have a โ€œcarrying a paint tinโ€ certificate?

Why apartment developers will struggle to hire builders

Michael Bleby
Senior reporter

Residential developers have to take on more of risks of rising costs and delays if they want to secure access to builders and subcontractors at a time when demand for education and health work is booming, the head of Sydney builder Richard Crookes Constructions says.

Labour shortages and rising borrowing costs that make new projects less viable will force apartment developers to give builders more time to assess and price the risks they need to take on โ€“ and if they donโ€™t, those builders will work elsewhere, Jamie Crookes said.

Commercial clients were now more willing to work with builders, giving them time to assess and price risks such as cost blowouts and time delays and, where risks couldnโ€™t be eliminated, were much more prepared to share those risks than in the past, Mr Crookes said on Thursday.

But if residential developers werenโ€™t willing to share risks in the same way they would not find builders willing to work for them, and this would make it harder for the country to build the housing it desperately needed, he said.

โ€œTraditional multi-unit residential development has had a reasonably short tender period, then thereโ€™s a large risk allocation back to the contractor,โ€ Mr Crookes told The Australian Financial Review. โ€œThereโ€™s a risk that people wonโ€™t accept some of the risk theyโ€™re trying to allocate.โ€

That means fewer apartments. Official figures published this week showed housing starts of new apartments, semi-detached dwellings and townhouses fell to 61,392 over the year to June, the lowest figure since 2012.

โ€œWe continue to forecast a material slowdown in housing starts,โ€ Jarden economist Carlos Cacho said.

According to figures due to be released on Friday, Richard Crookes swung to an after-tax loss of $6.8 million for the year to June from a $7 million profit, even as revenue picked up 12 per cent to $1.5 billion.

The loss, in a year when construction and employee costs jumped 14 per cent, reflected the crunch of pre-COVID fixed-price contracts as building costs soared, Mr Crookes said.

The family-owned company had worked through most of the loss-making contracts โ€“ which he said were the likely cause of speculation about the companyโ€™s financial health earlier in June โ€“ and would only have five of them left to complete by Christmas.

They are all residential. One was the high-profile conversion to luxury apartments of the Sirius building in Sydney โ€“ which he said would now only complete in April โ€“ alongside two for-sale apartment projects, a build-to-rent development and one student accommodation project.

โ€œBy Christmas this year we will only have five of those projects left and by the end of the financial year will be complete,โ€ Mr Crookes said.

โ€œSo itโ€™s all projects that are 2022-forward, which are profitable in the book at the moment.โ€

But in a warning to government and private efforts to boost housing stock and tackle the countryโ€™s chronic shortfall of rental housing, Mr Crookes said securing subcontractors and trades was harder in residential building than non-residential commercial work.

โ€œGetting people to work on residential projects โ€“ thatโ€™s been a real challenge,โ€ Mr Crookes said.

โ€œResidential is the most difficult. You have more trades on a residential job than a lot of the other sectors, they have more people on the job, you need more resourcing.โ€

There was currently less residential work, but builders and subcontractors were also less likely to bid for it when they had other options, he said.

โ€œFive years ago, multi-unit residential was probably 50 per cent of our pipeline,โ€ Mr Crookes said.

โ€œIf you look at it now, itโ€™s down to about 15 per cent of the pipeline. There is less demand for residential. But I also think the [un]desirability of it will have an impact on the capacity thatโ€™s out there to deliver residential while the other sectors are busy.โ€

Richard Crookes has secured nearly $900 million worth of work in the past four months โ€“ part of a total work-in-hand book of $3.3 billion โ€“ on education projects including the Irrawang High School in Port Stephens and the Melonba Education Campus in Marsden park, health redevelopment projects such as Cowra Hospital and Gunnedah Hospital, and a chicken processing factory in Tamworth for Baiada Poultry.

Residential developers had to work to attract builders, Mr Crookes said.

โ€œYouโ€™re trying to get the capacity out of the market,โ€ he said. โ€œItโ€™s a matter of how do you collaborate with industry to ensure you get the capacity from the industry to deliver the project.โ€

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2023 9:43 am

Pro-Palestinian group halts access to Pine Gap
Liam Mendes
Liam Mendes

Pro-Palestinian protestors have blocked access to the US surveillance base at Pine Gap in Alice Springs, with one protestor locking himself to a barrel splattered with red paint on the middle of the road.

Workers at the military base have been prevented from entering from around 5am, with metal cables previously covering the road.

At 7:20am the fire brigade arrived and have begun the process of removing the barrel from the road.

Here’s air tickets to Palestine – One way.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 9:46 am

I wonder what the lowe twerp is doing with his useless self now? Enjoying his comsuper maybe? While people struggle paying their mortgages. Another egghead.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 9:47 am

That Tartaria video Trickler posted concludes by posing a question if North America was once a giant living fang-bearing turtle and if moonlight kills you (after talking about trees and people turned into rocks).

He’s such a cynical bastard, just taking money off gullible people. The tone of his voice screams “this is a chore, but suckers pay me”.

How would a “mud flood” wipe out everything but capitol buildings on hilltops?

The mud flood at Nashville would have had to of been tens to hundreds of metres high.

This theory is so silly it is beyond belief.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2023 9:48 am

P
Oct 20, 2023 9:36 AM

Time to send menโ€™s rugby back to school
By Marcus Middleton โ€“ October 20, 2023

P – as a Marist Boy I enjoyed the Sport and their Philosophy

Marist students enjoy success in all their academic pursuits and sports because of the strong teaching moments that sportsโ€”in particular team sportsโ€”provide in the formation of character in young people, he added.

โ€œWhilst primarily for pure enjoyment, all sports teach resilience, respect, and an appreciation of order and rules for the common good, while providing students with avenues to develop their unique gifts and talents, grow in confidence and be affirmed,โ€ Dr Malloy said.

โ€œAt Marist schools, our aim is enriching the lives of young people so they grow into faith-filled, well-rounded adults so they are set up for life.โ€

When talking about Marist schools and their contribution to Australian rugby, the college that you cannot fail to mention is the undisputed nursery for future Wallabies, St Josephโ€™s College Hunters Hill.

Aptly nicknamed โ€œJoeys,โ€ with 47 Wallabies among their alumni, they have produced more Australian Menโ€™s rugby representatives than any other school in Australia.

With instantly recognisable names such as Matt Burke, Tony Daly, Luke Burgess and Darren Junee all former students, Joeys has won nearly half (57 premierships) of the 125 years of the Great Public Schools of New South Wales (GPS) competition.

One man who coached the Joeys First XV to 11 of those premierships is Br Anthony Boyd, who believes when it comes to returning Australian menโ€™s rugby back to its former glory, the philosophy must be finding the โ€œrising tide to lift all boats.โ€

โ€œWe have our way of doing things, but thereโ€™s a lot of other great schools that combine sport and education for young men and women.โ€

Br Boyd states that while the Marist values provided the school with an edge, it was the strength of school rugby across all public, Catholic, and independent schools that led to Australiaโ€™s golden era.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 9:49 am

Richard Crookes has secured nearly $900 million worth of work in the past four months โ€“ part of a total work-in-hand book of $3.3 billion โ€“ on education projects including the Irrawang High School in Port Stephens and the Melonba Education Campus in Marsden park, health redevelopment projects such as Cowra Hospital and Gunnedah Hospital, and a chicken processing factory in Tamworth for Baiada Poultry.

Built some pretty shitty buildings for NSW Plod and his work is ugly. Mostly ticket clipping. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2023 9:50 am

Just off the phone with the Mercedes dealership.

A big one, please.
Yes, the biggest one youโ€™ve got.

What do you mean they donโ€™t come in Tartarian?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2023 9:52 am

These people donโ€™t believe past humans (or maybe even current ones) are capable of building with stone,

Gรถbekli Tepe was around 9000BC.

Digger
Digger
October 20, 2023 9:52 am

After the so-called โ€œhospital strikeโ€, I wouldnโ€™t believe anything that came out of Gaza, endorsed by doctors or not. We even had numpty medicos at Liverpool hospital here demonstrating over something that didnโ€™t happen.

They can isolate what the explosive was and where it came from in an hour. There is no intention to do that…

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 20, 2023 9:55 am

Swimming Australia are at risk of being booted from World Aquatics, the governing body. Crash Craddock on a most alarming turn of events. A familiar name pops up:

Mega-sponsor Gina Rinehart has walked away from Swimming Australia as the crisis-torn body faces the threat of expulsion from its sport.

Rinehart has injected more than $60 million into Olympic and Paralympic sports and still sponsors 92 elite swimmers โ€“ but her relationship with Swimming Australia (SA) was broken two years ago.

Remarkably Rinehart, Australiaโ€™s richest person, and the swimmers are becoming closer as the national swim team surges to world beating heights while SA is in disarray.

This is partially the reason why the sport in Australia is leading a bizarre double life, mixing record medal hauls with mayhem.

With 13 gold medals at the recent World Championships in Fukuoka, Australia is now the worldโ€™s No.1 swimming nation with Rinehartโ€™s backing allowing athletes to train as fulltime professionals.

But behind the scenes there has been incredible, unprecedented turmoil.

Former chief executive Eugenie Buckley resigned in April this year after a power battle with the disenchanted state member organisations.

The sportโ€™s global parent body, World Aquatics, has threatened to expel Australia unless it improves its governance and there will be a major vote on a proposed new constitution at a watershed meeting on Friday.

SAโ€™s sponsorship has dropped from around $10 million to just over $3 million a year after Rinehart withdrew her backing two years ago.

This masthead can reveal that the breakdown between Rinehart and SA can be traced back to a chance conversation Rinehart had with the parent of an Olympic swimmer in July, 2021.

THE NOOSA SHOCK

When the Australian team headed to Tokyo for the delayed 2020 Olympics, Rinehart partly sponsored the parents on a trip to Noosa where they could meet twice daily in a conference room to watch their sons and daughters swim for gold.

She joined them in the room but kept a low key presence away from the Channel 7 cameras which were beaming live responses around Australia.

Amid the raucous celebrations of Australiaโ€™s stellar Olympics a simple conversation between Rinehart and the parent of a swimmer took Rinehart aback and jolted her confidence in SA.

The parent said the swimmer had not received the funding he was due out of a multimillion-dollar sponsorship by Rinehart to SA which was to be paid to the swimmers.

SA, in a response to this claim, said: โ€œSA was made aware that a swimmer had not put in his invoice and therefore had not been paid in late July, 2021. Upon receiving this information – the swimmer, who SA was told did not know how to download the invoice form – was paid in August, 2021.โ€™โ€™

SA forwarded to this masthead a list of total payments given the athletes via the sponsorship in that period.

But Mrs Rinehart then found out it wasnโ€™t one but six Olympians who hadnโ€™t timely received their funding despite Mrs Rinehart providing the funding to SA.

Mrs Rinehart also learnt from another parent, that funding was at multiple times delayed which made it difficult for them despite the fact that the Rinehart funding was never late to SA.

There was no mention at that time, that one or any of the parents had difficulty filling out any forms SA required.

Alarm bells rang and the starting gun in the quest for accountability had unofficially been fired.

That triggered โ€ฆ

THE CLOSED BOOKS

Unsettled by this Rinehart asked to see not only the minimum audited accounts of the swimmer payment program, but a further detailed reconciliation of individual payments to athletes each year.

This is where the gulf between some SA officials and Rinehart widened considerably because she was not given access to the records she sought and considered their response โ€œrude.โ€™โ€™

Partially as a consequence of this and not wanting the swimmers to be deprived of payments or suffer, Mrs Rinehart decided to change the way she paid them, instead channelling the funds to close to 100 Olympic and Paralympic swimmers Australia wide through Swimming Queensland (SQ).

Mrs Rinehart changed to SQ with whom she had a longer relationship, to handle the swimmers funding โ€“ and the feedback is that this is working very well.

โ€œI still canโ€™t believe Swimming Australia lost the greatest benefactor Iโ€™ve seen since Santa Claus,โ€™โ€™ said Swimming Queensland chief executive Kevin Hasemann.

โ€œMrs Rinehartโ€™s generosity towards our sport is astonishing. Sheโ€™s been sponsoring swimming for the past 35 years, tipping in over $40m since 2012 through the Hancock Prospecting Swimmer Support Scheme, the lifeblood of performance swimming in Australia. A further $40m has been committed to the scheme leading up to the 2032 Home Olympics.

โ€œAustraliaโ€™s Tokyo triumph and ascension to world number one at the recent World Championships simply couldnโ€™t have happened without Mrs Rinehart. And, but for her, the prospect of Australian swimmers replicating their amazing Tokyo record in Brisbane in 2032 would be torpedoed, and Australiaโ€™s prospects of a high medal tally would be a pipe dream.

โ€œAs the current administrators of the HPSSS, Swimming Queensland is enjoying a smooth, professional relationship with Mrs Rinehart and her teamโ€

Even before the Noosa eye opening there had been concerns from Rinehart over other aspects of the swimming ecosystem.

THE DINNERS THAT NEVER HAPPENED

Rinehartโ€™s own swimming gala awards night โ€“ The Patronโ€™s Awards โ€“ at her home in Brisbane next month is partly a consequence of a funding fallout over two gala awards nights which never happened.

It is understood she parted with around $400,000 for two gala awards ceremonies in 2020 and 2021 which were cancelled by SA, and, only after repeated requests, was later given a portion of these funds back.

Such gala award dinners were an important annual event, with coaches, swimmers, parents, families, partners, volunteers and special guests all invited to attend.

After SA cancelled the 2020 Patronโ€™s Awards dinner, Mrs Rinehart funded a smaller dinner for the swimmers only as nominated by the then highly-regarded CEO Alex Baumann.

The funding for this was provided by Mrs Rinehart personally and additionally to the $400,000 that had been provided to Swimming Australia for the two cancelled years of the gala award dinners.

However, the much smaller dinner arranged to assist with the disappointment of the nominated swimmers, could not fairly be described as a replacement for either of the two annual gala events that SA had cancelled.

SA responded to the dinner debate by declaring: โ€œThe 2020 Awards that were cancelled due to COVID operated under a separate contracting arrangement whereby they were a sponsor benefit as one element of a suite of benefits exchanged for a sponsorship agreement.

โ€œIn regard to 2021 Annual Awards, also cancelled due to COVID, Mrs Rinehart received a refund payment of $248,325 on 20th December of 2021.โ€

But the damage was done, Rinehart took measures to ensure her money was accountable.

THE SILENT BOARD MEMBER

Concerned by the mysterious delegation of her finances, Rinehart asked whether her company Hancock Prospecting could have a member on the SA board.

They met her partway โ€“ granting in part a set of eyes but no voice – but it did not heal the wounds.

Mrs Rinehart told this masthead: โ€œA voiceless observer, hardly an interference with the board. Especially when we learnt that on most matters our observer was asked to leave the room, on grounds of โ€œconflictโ€.

โ€œI suspect if a swimmer was given permission to be a director, or a pod parent, that they may meet the same fate โ€ฆ excluded from much of the actual board meetings.โ€™โ€™

However where Rinehart became unpopular was when asking for accountability to expenses.

Mrs Rinehart said: โ€œI donโ€™t think it is an unusual or unfair expectation for any sponsor of sports to be sure its funds are going to the athletes and if applicable for agreed purposes. We donโ€™t have such problems with any of the other Olympic sports we sponsor.โ€™โ€™

DIVES AND TURNS

Despite Rinehartโ€™s concern over the spending of her sponsorship dollars, she denies any suggestion she had an overbearing personal influence on the running of the sport.

She was observed at the recent world championships in Japan, and earlier seeing the team off from Cairns prior to the Tokyo Olympics, and over the years enthusiastically supporting pool side.

SA said it parted ways with Rinehart because โ€œduring the re-negotiation process it was clear a number of Hancock Prospectingโ€™s terms, including the mandating of Board and Executive positions, were not capable of acceptance.โ€™โ€™

Friends of Australian Sports Commission chief executive Kieren Perkins last month anonymously accused Rinehart of trying to โ€œcoach the team and run the boardโ€™โ€™ in a story in Nine newspapers, but she denies this.

โ€œI think the swimmers would all know, that it is not really correct,โ€™โ€™ she said, claiming there were only two or perhaps three occasions when she made suggestions to program schedules or training aides.

โ€œThe first was to follow the lead of the USA โ€“ then the best team in the world โ€“ learn what could from them and hold Olympic trials closer to the Games rather than almost four months out, thinking โ€œa lot could happen in that timeโ€™โ€™ between the trials and the Games.

โ€œI didnโ€™t know this at the time, but apparently some coaches had also pushed for holding the trials closer to the Olympics, so, I may not have been the first to suggest to the then president and the then head coachโ€.

After a modest or disappointing Rio Olympics in 2016, Australia changed this system for the Tokyo Olympics and immediately tapped into a telling vein of golden form.

Another Rinehart suggestion was to learn from the SAS preparation and training, and this was followed through successfully with then president John Bertrand.

Her other suggestion came after the World Championships in Budapest.

โ€œIt was clear for me to see that our swimmers were fast and should have been enjoying more medals, but it was their diving (and turning) that was letting them down.โ€ she said.

โ€œI suggested to (Swimming Australia) our swimmers should benefit from the Clogs Motion Analysis system that the USA swimmers enjoyed, to film their dives and turns, and help them improve.

โ€œI then additionally bought several Clogs Motion Analysis systems and it seems this poolside equipment has helped, including for up and coming swimmers Iโ€™ve been told.โ€™โ€™

While small, precious cogs are being carefully put in place to help their swimmers dominate the world, mayhem swirls around the sport.

Serenity, progress and gold medals in the pool have been matched by boardroom chaos which may see the end of the Swimming Australia board.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2023 9:56 am

NSW Plod via the Telegraph & bombarding TikTok are now wanting a pat on the head how they “managed” the Hamas rally on the Monday after the Hamas butchery began.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 9:56 am

Kipling was talking about academic garbage like dr lowe when he wrote ‘if you can think and not make thoughts your aim’.

Pogria
Pogria
October 20, 2023 9:58 am

The Maxim 100 Hottest Aussie Sheilas has to be a joke. We have read how that creep Laidley is on it. Did you also read that he is in front of the Wong Bloke, Dirty Sanchez and Pallet Chook. The fact that all those uggos are on the list proves that Maxim is having a lend.
If they aren’t, ask the blokes running the mag if they would have sex with any of the above. Waiting to hear…

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 20, 2023 9:58 am

This is crazy. Holy Shit!

AXALP 2023 – AN AIRSHOW ON STEROIDS – 4K

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2023 9:58 am

There’s only one reason an organisation that is under pressure won’t open their books, especially to the party who is keeping the thing afloat.
Hopefully a forensic audit of Swimming Australia is part of any way forward.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2023 9:59 am

Black Ball

Oct 20, 2023 9:31 AM

Johannes Leak is indeed in a very rich vein of form. Because there is a great deal to work with. Albo daily, maybe twice says something stupid.ย 

The Voice Treaty Truth crop-top was a magnificent cartooning device.
Brilliant.
It beautifully captured Luigi discarding jetsam over the side of SS Voice as it wallowed in heavy seas.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2023 10:01 am

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@StopAntisemites
Dr. Abeer N. AbouYabis is an physician at Emory Winship Cancer Institute.

A sampling of her atrocious endorsement of the Hamas terrorists that murdered 1300 Israelis: “They got walls we got gliders glory to all resistance fighters”

Would you want YOUR Jewish family member to be treated by this woman?

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2023 10:02 am

NSW Plod.

I despise them. I no longer trust the NSWaffen to protect Jews here in NSW.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 20, 2023 10:02 am

A bit of a wordwall but how dare Gina Rinehart ask to see how her money is spent? Much like politics, our sporting bodies are run by non entities and farkwits with absolutely no idea, other than the money that follows.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2023 10:06 am

There is a lot of reasonable stuff to question or re-examine.

This is why I hate these arsehats like “My Lunch Break”. They mix interesting research with (really dumb, evidence-free) conspiracy theories and conflate their ignorance with proof.

Firestone and Schoch proved some of the stuff that Cremo, Carlson and Hancock popularised. You’ve got to remember Heinrich Schliemann was a nutter until he dug up the remains of what was probably Troy. There’s value in investigating (seriously and diligently) if there really was an Atlantis. Why would the Egyptian priests lie to Plato about this? It might have been a myth, but why did the myth exist? Of course, the Tartaria stuff is silly because it means the Romans never built the Colosseum, they just appropriated an earlier structure. They don’t believe in slave labour but they believe in free energy from unsophisticated devices. Hmmm. This isn’t about using SQUIDs or the Casimir effect.

The symbol on St Mark’s Cathedral isn’t proof of Tartaria, it is proof that Christians universally accept St Mark as a saint and that he is symbolised by a lion. Some of this stuff elsewhere goes to an inability to read latin.

There might have been some very old civilisations that were global traders and travellers. You need real evidence, not walking around a city in the US and presuming slave labour can’t be coordinated with stone masons.

If you have already made up your mind that you believe in Russian ethnic superiority and the nefariousness of Freemasons, “Khazars”, Jews, Catholics etc, then you can believe whatever the hell you like because it will be inconsequential garbage.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 10:07 am

Just look at the Raelene Castle slag. Yes how dare Gina want to know how her money is being spent.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 10:08 am

Haven’t the AFL got a Marx fem lawyerette in charge of something or other.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 20, 2023 10:09 am

Just off the phone with the Mercedes dealership.

A big one, please.
Yes, the biggest one youโ€™ve got.

If youโ€™re in the market for one might be time to pick up a V8 or W12. You suspect some of these will be the last of their kind. Just like the atmo models a few years back.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2023 10:12 am

IDF poised to target Hamas leaders
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One of the primary objectives of the Israeli Defence Forcesโ€™ Operation Swords of Iron will be to hunt down and kill the Hamas leadership considered responsible for Operation Al Aqsa Flood โ€“ the recent deadly Hamas attacks on Israel.

The main Hamas leadership targets are: Mohammed Deif, head of the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military arm of Hamas; Marwan Issa, deputy head of the Brigades; Yehya Sinwar, Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip; Ismail Hania, head of political affairs, and; Salah Al-Aruri, deputy head of political affairs. Deif and Sinwar apparently took the decision to plan and execute Operation Al Aqsa Flood.

In the past, Australia had only deemed the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades to be a terrorist organisation but now considers the whole of Hamas to be a terrorist organisation โ€“ on the basis that Hamasโ€™s political leadership endorses the Brigadesโ€™ acts of terrorism against Israel. But Hamas enjoys considerable popular political support among Palestinians. Hamas won the 2006 Palestinian legislative election, gaining a majority in the Legislative Council, and subsequently took control of the Gaza Strip from Fatah, a rival Palestinian political party.

Historically, Hamas has sought an Islamic Palestinian state over the combined territory of Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, rejecting the two-state solution โ€“ although since 2017 it has indicated some flexibility on the issue.

The Brigades were officially established in 1991 as the paramilitary wing of Hamas. The Brigades undertake military activity on behalf of Hamas and have adopted terror tactics in their efforts to pressure Israel, including indiscriminate rocket attacks, suicide attacks, bombings, shootings and kidnappings directed against Israeli military and civilian targets.

Historically, the Brigades have predominantly operated in Gaza, with limited representation in the West Bank. In recent years, Hamas has also increased its presence in Lebanon in co-operation with Hezbollah, which is backed by Iran. Historically, there had not been much co-operation between Hamas (a Sunni organisation) and Hezbollah (a Shia organisation). What unites them is Israel as a common enemy.

Deif is now Israelโ€™s primary target. He has been on the top of the most wanted list in Israel for several decades and has previously been accused of causing the deaths of dozens of Israelis through suicide bombings. He was born in 1965 in the Khan Yunis Refugee Camp, set up after the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. He was born Mohammad Masri and became known as Mohammed Deif after he joined Hamas during the first Palestinian Uprising (or Intifada).

Israel arrested Deif in 1989 and he spent about 16 months in detention. Deif later completed a degree in science from the Islamic University in Gaza, where he studied biology, chemistry and physics. He was also interested in arts subjects, and headed the entertainment committee of the university.

While rising up the ranks of Hamas, Deif developed the Hamas network of tunnels and used his science background to improve its bomb-making expertise.

Deif started planning Operation Al Aqsa Flood after the Israeli police operation at the Al Aqsa Mosque during Ramadan in May 2021. The Israeli security operation was intended to safeguard Jewish access to the area (also sacred to Jews as the Temple Mount) and remove Palestinian protesters. It sparked a religious riot. Between May 10 and 14, Israeli police injured approximately 1000 Palestinian protesters, with some reported in critical condition.

A source in Gaza stated: โ€œIt (Operation Al Aqsa Flood) was triggered by scenes and footage of Israel storming Al Aqsa Mosque during Ramadan, beating worshippers, attacking them, dragging elderly and young men out of the mosque. All this fuelled and ignited the anger.โ€

Deifโ€™s current whereabouts are unknown, although he is most likely in Gaza. He has survived seven Israeli assassination attempts, the most recent in 2021.

Deif has stayed in the shadows for a long time because of the assassination risk he faces. Hamas sources say he sustained serious injuries in one leg and lost an eye in one of the Israeli assassination attempts. During an airstrike in 2014, his wife, three-year-old daughter and seven-month-old son were killed. Deif speaks out rarely, and has never appeared in public. But before the Operation Al Aqsa Flood attacks, he spoke to Palestinians through Hamasโ€™s TV channel in an audio recording, signalling something significant was about to take place. He stated: โ€œToday the rage of Al Aqsa, the rage of our people and nation is exploding. Our mujahedeen (holy warriors), today is your day to make this criminal understand that his time has ended.โ€

Deif said Israel has been repeatedly warned by Hamas to end its crimes against Palestinians and release the (6000) Palestinian prisoners, who he claimed were tortured and abused, and to stop its expropriation of Palestinian land.

โ€œEvery day the occupation (forces) storm our villages, towns and cities in the West Bank and raid houses, kill, injure, destroy and detain. At the same time, it (Israel) confiscates thousands of acres of our land, uproots our people from their houses to build settlements while its criminal siege continues on Gaza,โ€ he said.

Deif stated Hamas had appealed to the international community to stop the โ€œcrimes of the occupationโ€, but that Israel continued to increase its provocation. He went on to say that Hamas in the past had appealed to Israel to finalise a humanitarian deal for releasing Palestinian prisoners, however, this was rejected.

โ€œIn light of the orgy of occupation and its denial of international laws and resolutions, and in light of American and Western support and international silence, weโ€™ve decided to put an end to all this,โ€ he stated.

Deif has always been security conscious. In the public domain, only three images of Deif are available โ€“ one of him in his 20s, another of him masked, and the third one just his shadow, which the TV used when broadcasting the audio tape. But clearly his days are numbered.

Operation Swords of Iron is likely to lead to the death of Hamasโ€™s current leadership โ€“ but, in the absence of a negotiated settlement, their martyrdom will undoubtedly encourage the next generation of Palestinians to take on the might of Israel in the years ahead.

They’ll be consulting the old hands who organized Operation “Wrath of God.”

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 20, 2023 10:17 am

Yes miltonf Laura Kane is her name.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 20, 2023 10:18 am

Football operations manager. Pretty much the second cheese.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 20, 2023 10:19 am

I always wanted a little BMW with the straight six and RWD. Now 4 cylinder turbo and 4WD. Donโ€™t leave it too late.

P
P
October 20, 2023 10:20 am

Black Ball
Oct 20, 2023 10:02 AM

A bit of a wordwall but how dare Gina Rinehart ask to see how her money is spent?

Thank you, esp without the italics I can fly through it. Much appreciated.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2023 10:21 am

Dr Faustus

Oct 20, 2023 8:43 AM
I truely believe most of the good people got out of Scotland in the nineteenth century

Escuse?
Iโ€™m thinking $500k for psychological harm, another $500k for punitive damages to prevent this outrage happening again, plus costs.

I recently had one of those ancestry things done – 52%Irish, 26% Scottish, 2% bitza.
So my claim is for $250k + $250k + $2.95 for the cab charge to the wharf. (I’ve doubled the percentages because I can, and I’m still in mourning.)

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 20, 2023 10:23 am

Ok, I’ve just seen the actual footage of the scene in the hospital, which has the children all lying in a row. The “Doctor” is berating Biden et al., for the killings of these innocents. He’s the only person in the scene showing any emotion – not tears – but calling out and decrying what’s happened. Everyone else is not at all engaged. The bloke next to him, on his right, is looking up from under his brows, rather dubiously, with what seems to be a “can he get away with this?” look.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 20, 2023 10:28 am

Mmmyes our betters are antsy that Israel is defending itself. The most cosseted people to ever exist. Daily Telegraph:

A letter has been signed by more than 2000 actors, artists and musicians including Tilda Swinton, Steve Coogan and Outlander star Sam Heughan.

The open letter from Artists for Palestine UK claimed Israeli air strikes and the governmentโ€™s decision to cut off food, water and fuel to the region amounted to โ€œwar crimes.โ€

โ€œOur governments are not only tolerating war crimes but aiding and abetting them,โ€ said the letter, also signed by Game of Thrones star Charles Dance and actress Miriam Margolyes, who was Professor Sprout in the Harry Potter franchise.

โ€œThere will come a time when they are held to account for their complicity,โ€ the letter continued.

โ€œBut for now, while condemning every act of violence against civilians and every infringement of international law whoever perpetrates them, our obligation is to do all we can to bring an end to the unprecedented cruelty being inflicted on Gaza.

โ€œWe support the global movement against the destruction of Gaza and the mass displacement of the Palestinian people,โ€ it continues.

โ€œWe demand that our governments end their military and political support for Israelโ€™s actions.

โ€œWe call for an immediate ceasefire and the opening of Gazaโ€™s crossings to allow humanitarian aid to enter unhindered.โ€

According to a report in the New York Post, the letter makes no mention of how Hamas militants killed at least 1400 people and took some 200 others hostage

Several UK officials have condemned the letter โ€” with David Mencer, the former director of Labour Friends of Israel, calling it โ€œdrivelโ€.

โ€œI invite this group of misfits and weirdos to rescue their ailing careers and try their chances as artists in Gaza under the Hamas regime,โ€ he told the Telegraph.

โ€œI promise to sign a letter when they are locked up and beg for their release.โ€

Minister Giles Watling, who sits on the culture, media and sport committee, acknowledged that it is โ€œa very complicated situation politically and historically.โ€

But โ€œin this case, it is very important to present both sides of the issue,โ€ he told the UK paper.

โ€œWe must absolutely condemn the attacks of Hamas on Israel, yes, but of course, I have great sympathy for the Palestinian people and the suffering they have endured,โ€ he noted.

โ€œBut you canโ€™t just present one side and not the other.โ€

David Mencer with a glorious retort.
Yes the Film Actor’s Guild in action. (HT Team America World Police)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2023 10:35 am

Here you go Dot.

Some Call It Conspiracy Theory, Part 1 (19 Oct)

George Monbiot is certainly not alone in his views, but his published opinionโ€”namely, that conspiracy theories โ€œoriginate with or land with the far rightโ€โ€”is complete nonsense. So letโ€™s discard his claim right now as ignorant claptrap.

Monbiotโ€™s allusion to โ€œconspiracismโ€ relates to the alleged psychological problems that supposedly lead people to become โ€œconspiracy theorists.โ€ The โ€œconspiracismโ€ theory is a product of the worst kind of junk science. It is primarily based upon the notoriously flaky discipline of experimental psychology.

Ironic that the Moonbat is calling righties conspiracy theorists. He’s been pushing the climate hoax for decades. Conspiracy theories are turning into established fact at a rate of knots lately. One recent one took less than 24 hours to do so.

Digger
Digger
October 20, 2023 10:36 am

After the so-called โ€œhospital strikeโ€, I wouldnโ€™t believe anything that came out of Gaza, endorsed by doctors or not. We even had numpty medicos at Liverpool hospital here demonstrating over something that didnโ€™t happen.

They can isolate what the explosive was and where it came from in an hour. There is no intention to do that though… the truth does not meet the narrative objective.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2023 10:40 am

Cuck wants to cuck his whole country, because cuck.

https://x.com/MythinformedMKE/status/1618632217491832834?s=20

Also if you havent seen it seek out Joe “dog ball bag for a chin” Bidens little off the cuff meander in air force one do so.
The look of fear in the people around him “please Joe, dont say corn pop or any other mongism”…

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2023 10:42 am

They can isolate what the explosive was and where it came from in an hour. There is no intention to do thatโ€ฆ

I know nothing about ordnance.
But I do know that the blast from a decent charge of commercial explosive, cracked off at the surface, would have moved the cars around the car park a little.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2023 10:43 am

Black Ball

Oct 20, 2023 9:55 AM
Swimming Australia are at risk of being booted from World Aquatics, the governing body.

So, what’s happening with Swimming Australia? Is it a bunch of hangers on who have a major sponsor telling them to piss off, or what?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2023 10:48 am

So my claim is for $250k + $250k + $2.95 for the cab charge to the wharf.

I am 1% authentic African slave, who had 8 children with her Scots plantation owner.

I want one million pounds from Scotland.

Nice Mr Humza Yousaf can pay up before he gets his relos out of Gaza.

A touch of the tar brush is very lucrative these days!

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2023 10:49 am

A letter has been signed by more than 2000 actors, artists and musicians including Tilda Swinton, Steve Coogan and Outlander star Sam Heughan.

Further confirmation – if needed – of Anthony Hopkins’s thesis:

‘Actors are generally stupid people.’

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2023 10:52 am

Dr Faustus
Oct 20, 2023 10:42 AM
They can isolate what the explosive was and where it came from in an hour. There is no intention to do thatโ€ฆ

I know nothing about ordnance.
But I do know that the blast from a decent charge of commercial explosive, cracked off at the surface, would have moved the cars around the car park a little.

It was fire cracker that set off an EV battery explosion that set off a rocket that set off Massive ‘MisInformation’ for the MSM, the UN, all of the Arab Countries, the Greens, etc, etc, etc.

FFS. The IDF know who ‘done it’.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2023 10:54 am

I want one million pounds from Scotland.

My father’s ancestors were Scottish crofters. They were evicted from their smallholdings, marched to the nearest seaport, told “The laid has been pleased to pay for your passages to Australia” and “put on the ship” then and there.

Five million quid, from Scotland, and a lifetimes supply of my favorite whisky will suffice.

sfw
sfw
October 20, 2023 10:54 am

Sitting in a hotel room in Sydney waiting to go on my wife’s dream holiday and my nightmare holiday. I haven’t watched FTA tv for years but it’s all there is here.
If the ads reflect Aussie society then 95% of us are married to Africans, Indians, Asians or Pacific Islanders.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2023 10:57 am

Youโ€™ve got to remember Heinrich Schliemann was a nutter until he dug up the remains of what was probably Troy.

Successful St Petersburg businessman who was fluent in something like 30 languages. Could learn a langauge in six weeks. Spending his own money to investigate the mound at Hissarlik is his prerogative.

Didn’t look any of this up, I read Gods, Graves and Scholars by C W Ceram when I was a kid. Highly recommended and very readable, although dated compared to what we know now.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2023 10:59 am

Five million quid, from Scotland, and a lifetimes supply of my favorite whisky will suffice.

That’s a lot of whisky.

Gran, 100, reveals secret to long life is junk food diet washed down with whisky (19 Oct)

Cheers to a long life Zulu!

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 11:04 am

Yes made the mistake of putting a hotel tv on in Brissy last night and saw an ABC add for kavelas and q and a.. Every bit as puke making as I would have expected.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 20, 2023 11:05 am

Time to send menโ€™s rugby back to school.

Only pretend Catholics didn’t shop at Batch’s Electrical in Ashgrove.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 20, 2023 11:05 am

Brissy CBD shits all over the Melbourne one.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
October 20, 2023 11:06 am

Supporters of Hamas will be furious when they discover the Gaza hospital wasn’t bombed by Israel. That’s so unfair – they’ll claim, so typical of Jewish perfidity to let Palestinians kill Paleastinians. They’ll also suddenly discover it wasn’t 500, only a couple of dozen and very few children, because Palestinian rockets are so safe compared to the evilness of Israel’s bombs.

rosie
rosie
October 20, 2023 11:07 am

The tartarian stuff is intended to undermine the achievements of western civilisation.
Apparently our forbears were capable of nothing and our Judaic Christian heritage is a pack of lies.
Why don’t you peddle your tripe to some like minded people and stop insulting our intelligence?

Crossie
Crossie
October 20, 2023 11:09 am

There you go, Biden is worried about innocent Gaza Palestinians. Dead and tortured Israelis don’t seem to touch his heart.

And then he gets to the people really close to his heart, Ukrainians. The only people he couldn’t care less about are Americans.

Middle East railroad is going to fix all the problems in ME. Biden admin is now a parody of a government.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 20, 2023 11:09 am

secret to long life is junk food diet washed down with whisky

I’m working on it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2023 11:09 am

I despise them. I no longer trust the NSWaffen to protect Jews here in NSW.

Cassie, the videos on TikTok were well produced.
Meaning that NSW Plod had camera men/women there recording the protest as it went from Town Hall to the Opera House.

The comments by NSW Plod that they managed a fluid situation is horse shit.
It was all planned & filmed professionally.

Some big questions need to be answered by NSW Plod.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2023 11:12 am

secret to long life is junk food diet washed down with whisky

Iโ€™m working on it.

“Sliante!”

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2023 11:12 am

As per IowaHawk twitter posts, when you chant “from the river to the sea” you mean you want all the Jews dead.

From the river to the sea is on par with sieg heil.

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2023 11:14 am

Cuck wants to cuck his whole country, because cuck.

Louis C.K.

Wanker.

win
win
October 20, 2023 11:14 am

Funny how Barnaby Joyce and Boris Johnson were fun politicians who represented so many of us but fell victims to predatory females and became lesser politicians as a result.

Crossie
Crossie
October 20, 2023 11:14 am

Biden is so concerned with Islamophobia, he cited one boy by name, probably imaginary, who was abused for his faith. He couldn’t name any Jews.

Ah, the whole speech is about money for Ukraine. It seems every second word is Ukraine. I have nothing against Ukraine, in fact I support their struggle, but Biden is doing them more harm with his obsession.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2023 11:15 am

NSW Plod : We had to manage this situation as it unfolded.

Also NSW Plod : Get down to JB Hifi & buy half a dozen gimbals. We don’t won’t shaky footage spoiling our good work.

Crossie
Crossie
October 20, 2023 11:16 am

I’m watching Biden’s speech so you don’t have to. And still it’s all about Ukraine and Kiev.

Crossie
Crossie
October 20, 2023 11:19 am

Biden says we won’t let Hamas and Putin win. In the case of Hamas, he should get out of the way and let IDF do their job.

As for Putin, unless Biden wants WWIII he better negotiate a peace settlement.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2023 11:19 am

Do these Hamas apologists realise that when they say ceasefire it means only Israel?
And that Hamas will continue as they want to?
Or do they so retarded they think Hamas will adhere to any ceasefire?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2023 11:19 am

There you go, Biden is worried about innocent Gaza Palestinians.

Yah, he just gave them $100 million. Money talks bullsh1t walks, as they say.

Biden Announces $100 Million In Aid To Gaza Days After Hamas Stole Humanitarian Supplies (18 Oct)

Always watch what the hand is doing when you are listening to what their mouth is saying.

Crossie
Crossie
October 20, 2023 11:20 am

I still think the funniest part of the speech was building the Middle East railroad that will bring jobs and peace to the region.

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2023 11:20 am

If the ads reflect Aussie society then 95% of us are married to Africans, Indians, Asians or Pacific Islanders.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

But I’d wager those ads are made by agencies whose staff are all white.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2023 11:21 am

Oh and in useful idiots news:

500 Biden Democrat Staffers Signed Anti-Israel Letter (19 Oct)

I think you can call this a “tell”, I really do.

rosie
rosie
October 20, 2023 11:22 am

Is Biden referring to Palestinian boy stabbed in US?
here

Crossie
Crossie
October 20, 2023 11:23 am

Britt Hume on Fox is lauding Biden’s as the best he has given. Hume seems to suffer from the same malady as Biden, dementia.

And lo and behold, Dana Perino agrees wholeheartedly with Britt Hume. I suppose we couldn’t expect anything else from a Bushie.

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