Open Thread – Weekend 21 Oct 2023


The Landing State, Claude Monet, 1869

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Rabz
October 21, 2023 10:58 pm
Mark Bolton
October 21, 2023 10:59 pm

Time for me to turn flukes ..Chappies.. got work on the early morrow… hug those that love you …

Peace M

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 21, 2023 11:00 pm

Woo woo – some sort of affirmation for those men and boys in NSW who refer to aesthetically pleasing bimbages as “chicks”, as opposed to those house sized backside pluckachook worshipping queenthlanders who refer to them as “bird”s.

I have two birds at the Cafe. Crested Pigeons. They’re Stones fans, since I can say to them woo woo, and they say woo woo back to me. They eat bread crumbs.

Sympathy (1968)

Woo woo!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 21, 2023 11:00 pm

I want every man on my crew to go home in one piece and dont give a bugger about the bosses bottom line

A pretend shop steward then.

That explains the spelling.

cohenite
October 21, 2023 11:03 pm

but since you obsess so …Yes I am a Leftie…

Who is this fukwit?

Mark Bolton
October 21, 2023 11:03 pm

@ Bruce … my last .. I have a nesting pair of Chitty Chitties in the tree just by my truck… Joy … much much Joy …

Rabz
October 21, 2023 11:03 pm
Dot
Dot
October 21, 2023 11:03 pm

And yes I do read the Daily Stormer

Since when was starting sentences with capitalised “And” or “But” (however grammatically correct) ever considered good style for prose?

There is one other chief offender here, but it is also a Birdism. See “ Latest Medical Emergency Realtime” 27 Oct 2016.

P
P
October 21, 2023 11:05 pm

Mark Bolton
Oct 21, 2023 10:10 PM

@ P …WA yes … small planes Yes ..Fire … yes gotta tick that one … and is this my real name ? Yes

I reckon this is truth.

Dot
Dot
October 21, 2023 11:05 pm

Peace M

Peace for people of goodwill.

That doesn’t include Hamas.

Gabor
Gabor
October 21, 2023 11:08 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Oct 21, 2023 10:55 PM

Gabor – What’s your taste in music? I do like a little classical at times, and even country, but I’m still a rock & roll guy from the day I first heard Horror Movie by Skyhooks in high school.

I’m not sure I should say,makes me look more of an oddball than I really am.

First preference is Russian classical, then most, but not all classical, then Gregorian chant, military bands, fav is Turkish Mehter military marching bands, thought to be the oldest, disputable!?
Comes country and western and some old fashioned pop like the Seekers and others in that vain also religious songs and singers, again not all.

Rock and roll or the Beatles had no impact on me I’m afraid, and today’s crap like rap is disgusting.
Sorry.

Rabz
October 21, 2023 11:08 pm

Since when was starting sentences with capitalised “And” or “But” (however grammatically correct) ever considered good style for prose?

So, Pol Dot – you finished with languishing in a Kampuchean Jungle yet, I asks ya?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 21, 2023 11:09 pm

Horror Movie by Skyhooks in high school.

Saw Skyhooks live – Richard Clapton was the supporting act. The great days of Australian music…

Rabz
October 21, 2023 11:11 pm
MatrixTransform
October 21, 2023 11:17 pm

more boring than I

** chuckles

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 21, 2023 11:18 pm

Gabor – all that is excellent. I’ve never heard the Mehter band music though. Russian classical is wonderful as everyone knows (1812).

I was doing walk yesterday and a guy and his girl were in their car. Year 12s I think, near the school. Doof doof rap! The car was just about shaking but it was awful. I don’t understand current tastes.

caveman
caveman
October 21, 2023 11:18 pm

South African Klaasen smashing them outta the park, insane.

P
P
October 21, 2023 11:24 pm

With her very first single as a solo artist, Dusty Springfield secured her glorified place in the pantheon of rock & roll history.

The 1963 release of “I Only Want to Be With You” made her the second English artist – following the Beatles – to break through in America as part of the initial wave of the British Invasion, launching the international career of one of rock’s most distinctive, far-reaching and enduring female vocalists.

BANDSTAND LIVE IN AUSTRALIA DUSTY SPRINGFIELD 1967 Excerpt

MatrixTransform
October 21, 2023 11:24 pm

Crested Pigeons

Party Pigeons

they have party-hats … that’s they’re Party Pigeons

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 21, 2023 11:26 pm

I have a nesting pair of Chitty Chitties

I have no idea what a chitty chitty is!

Peewee? A few years ago I got friendly with some peewees, they had chicks and I made friends with the chicks too. Sadly they moved on. But one male still remembers me, so today I went off for a walk…not far from my house flap flap flap he came over, hovering. I gave him some mince and off he went. It’s a fun ritual, and fairly rare, about once a month.

mc
mc
October 21, 2023 11:28 pm

At Sir Paul’s concert tonight it was good to see him bring out and wave the Union Jack and the Australian flag without the aboriginal one. Though he had to have the rainbow one there. I suppose I can’t have everything.

caveman
caveman
October 21, 2023 11:29 pm

England are toast SA master class these last 8 overs.

MatrixTransform
October 21, 2023 11:31 pm

taste in music? … Chicken Train

Rabz
October 21, 2023 11:32 pm

Crested Pigeons

Sod that idiocy, Cats – I’m off listening to the Triffids … 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 21, 2023 11:33 pm

Anyway, Sliante to you horrible mob. I’m still on a high over Mme Zulu’s test results, so I’m punishing the single malt, and watching Charles Bronson in “Death Wish ” clips…bring a knife to a gunfight…..

Dot
Dot
October 21, 2023 11:51 pm

Russia seems to be using human wave tactics now.

In one day: 55 tanks gone, 120 other armoured combat vehicles; 1380 personnel casualties which usually break 2:1 wounded to killed.

This sort of carnage hasn’t been seen since a World War.

MatrixTransform
October 21, 2023 11:53 pm

Dotty,

Ukraine is so last month

C.L.
C.L.
October 22, 2023 12:01 am

In one day: 55 tanks gone, 120 other armoured combat vehicles; 1380 personnel casualties which usually break 2:1 wounded to killed.

Source ( I Googled it): the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

LOL.

Dot
Dot
October 22, 2023 12:07 am

Ukraine has to be telling the truth by now.

You can’t lie about the day to day outcomes of a war 600+ days straight against a numerically superior enemy.

If they were consistently being materially dishonest, Ukraine would have ceased to exist by now.

MatrixTransform
October 22, 2023 12:07 am

Zelenskyy is phoning Hamas for tips

Dot
Dot
October 22, 2023 12:19 am

Zelenskyy is phoning Hamas for tips

These wars are totally incomparable.

MatrixTransform
October 22, 2023 12:31 am

these wars are totally incomparable.

well… so you’re saying that by actually comparing them … it turns out that they’re incomparable?

JC
JC
October 22, 2023 12:50 am

well… so you’re saying that by actually comparing them … it turns out that they’re incomparable?

Archimedes, how else would you be able to explain a difference?

MatrixTransform
October 22, 2023 12:58 am

stfu JC … your’e an idiot

JC
JC
October 22, 2023 1:03 am

Yes Archimedes, I’d assume you would say something deep and meaning like that, but you’ve explained to us before that you’re a “math’er” and therefore a master logician. Therefore, can you explain how anyone could make a claim something, anything is either comparable or incomparable without quantification?

JC
JC
October 22, 2023 1:13 am

Archimedes, AI reckons you’re a bigmouth numbnut.

The statement you provided appears to be paradoxical or contradictory in nature, as it suggests a situation where comparing two things ultimately leads to the conclusion that they are “incomparable.” In a logical sense, this statement can be seen as a form of paradox or self-contradiction, as the act of comparing typically implies an attempt to establish some form of relationship or similarity between the two things being compared. If they are genuinely “incomparable,” it would mean that there’s no meaningful basis for comparison, which makes the initial act of comparison seem illogical.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 22, 2023 1:32 am

Bruce, I think that that Bolton spook was hinting at the Willie Wag-Tail, Rhypidura leukophrys. All over the place in savannah landscapes west and north, heaps of Aboriginal names basically mimicking their chitti-chitti challenge call. More melodic whistly notes to in quiet times, often hear them on still nights. Very charismatic, gutsy, communicate territory and harem boundaries by flaring their white eyebrows. Nest in weird places out in the open- on the top of fence-posts, had one on the crook of the depth handle of a seeding rig once.
Lent their name to Chittering.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 22, 2023 1:38 am

Wagtails used to hang around the spud harvester picking off cabbage moths on the wing…
…biodiversity eh

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 22, 2023 2:39 am

I had a pigeon roll up the other day. Pure white with weird feet. I sat on the back step and gave him/her a scratch.

I reckon someone lost a pet. I should have nabbed it.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 22, 2023 3:28 am
Tom
Tom
October 22, 2023 4:00 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 22, 2023 4:32 am
Gabor
Gabor
October 22, 2023 6:01 am

The longer I ponder about the Biden and other US officials’ visit to Israel at this very time, the more I’m convinced that there is some sinister agenda going on here.

I’m not politically sophisticated enough to work it out but it feels strange.
Sure, revenge is best served cold, but giving the enemy time to prepare and reorganise or disappear into the general population?

What use is a 300K army then?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 22, 2023 6:26 am

We are in Amman after quite a tiring flight from Rome, as our day started early and there has been much hanging around airports, first at Rome, now here. Hairy’s phone GPS in flight showed we were over Israel, which concerned me, but later it seemed to show we came via the Red Sea; we could definitely see into Israel, and noted Jerusalem by its lights in the visible distance and other Israeli towns, Gaza area not lit up though. Sad and strange to look over that way and think of all the turmoil going on. I also had a vague fear that a stray rocket might suddenly appear. Turmoil then started for us as we hit some heavy turbulance, which distressed me, as the plane was a complete 1990’s crate. Our business class seats were of that date too, and very few of the seat electronics worked. My footrest for instance wouldn’t go down, and Hairy couldn’t get his antiquated tray table up. There was no TV at all. The vinyl seats were frayed and had ingrained grubbiness. We could only hope the serious electronics of this plane and the engines would survive the journey. As we landed the pilot’s door flew open and I could see into the cockpit and all of the array of lights in there that the two of them were working on.

The service and food were fine though. Hairy assures me Royal Jordanian will provide a proper Dreamliner with proper carrels for our next flight in three hours now to Bangkok, where we will R and R for three days before coming home.

We are in a big and very middle-eastern airport business lounge. Hairy just comes and sits down next to me and says the midnight flight to Tel Aviv has just been cancelled.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 22, 2023 6:32 am

Hairy says to Tel Aviv from here is like a flight from Sydney to Newcastle. That sort of distance. I am quite looking forward to moving on from the middle east in the early hours. Feels a bit hot-seatish right now, full of uncertainties.

Btw, anyone wanting tor read about a fascinating Greek city 550bc that I didn’t know existed, and which anyone going to Southern Italy shouldn’t miss if possible, read my report from Salerno on the end of the last OT.

Frank
Frank
October 22, 2023 6:34 am

1st aid trucks enter Gaza as number of confirmed hostages held in Strip reaches 210

Why do they always insist on resupply during what should be a siege.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 22, 2023 6:37 am

On the flight Hairy lent me his book to read as a distraction. I’m enjoying it. Peter Ratcliffe, DCM, “Eye of the Sorm: Twenty-five years in action with the SAS”. Possibly some of the military Cats know of it already?

Gotta go. Nearly out of charge on all equipment and they only have English plug systems here. Our one English plug is in the checked baggage.

calli
calli
October 22, 2023 6:59 am

Top o’ the mornin’!

That was the longest performance of Showboat I’ve ever sat through. No intermission either. 😀

Vicki
Vicki
October 22, 2023 7:02 am

Golly Lizzie – you are pretty sanguine about flying over Israel. Just announced that ground assault about to begin – but then they have been saying that for 2 weeks.

Gabor
Gabor
October 22, 2023 7:10 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Oct 22, 2023 6:37 AM

Gotta go. Nearly out of charge on all equipment and they only have English plug systems here. Our one English plug is in the checked baggage.

I take it Hairy is not in charge then?
At least an emergency battery pack should always be in your carry on backpack or similar. Also several plug conversions, suited to the intended places you are visiting.
Only LOL.
Have a safe flight.

calli
calli
October 22, 2023 7:11 am

Seat of the pants flying in the ME. Well done. You get into some of these planes and wonder if they’ll ever get airborne, then when they do you hope they stay that way.

What airline was it?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 22, 2023 7:15 am

Bruce, I think that that Bolton spook was hinting at the Willie Wag-Tail

Ah yes of course! Thanks Wally. I don’t have any around as there are too many predatory currawongs and intolerant noisy miners. There’re are small bush birds and willy wagtails in the reserve not to far away but none near the Cafe, since they wouldn’t be customers, they’d be menu choices.

Cassie of Sydney
October 22, 2023 7:17 am

100,000 Jew haters march in London.

I think it is time UK Jews left.

Razey
Razey
October 22, 2023 7:25 am

100,000 Jew haters march in London.

Hitler may just have the last laugh after all.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 22, 2023 7:28 am

The chap with the LBGTQ+ plus flag got a surprise at the pro Hamas rally in London.

calli
calli
October 22, 2023 7:35 am

What does that mean, Razey? That he wish to annihilate the Jews will be granted?

Not going to happen. The nations break themselves on Israel century after century, and they still endure. The other side of the story – any nation that shows kindness to and shelters the Jews prospers. This has been shown time and again.

They still don’t get the message. It’s a theological blind spot.

calli
calli
October 22, 2023 7:36 am

he = his

Pogria
Pogria
October 22, 2023 7:41 am

Batya Ungar-Sargon is a journo to watch. She has coined the term “Stenographers of Terrorists” for the msm.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 22, 2023 7:41 am

100,000 Jew haters march in London.

I’m officially depressed.

Cassie of Sydney
October 22, 2023 7:42 am

London Tube driver leads pro Palestine chants.

rosie
rosie
October 22, 2023 7:45 am

Muslims publicly demonstrating their hatred of Jews.
That’s all.
No surprise.

132andBush
132andBush
October 22, 2023 7:47 am

100,000 Jew haters march in London.

People who are plain evil leading people who are too stupid to realise what they are supporting.

I’m seeing the “sins of the father” argument for a ceasefire appearing in lefty world.
Dunno about that argument after seeing the wholesale support and participation of the general populace of Gaza.

rosie
rosie
October 22, 2023 7:47 am

Doctors in Gaza have warned that 130 premature babies are in “imminent danger due to a lack of fuel”.

“The world cannot simply look on as these babies are killed by the siege in Gaza,” Melanie Ward, the chief executive of Medical Aid for Palestinians (MAP), said in a statement.

“We call on world leaders to demand that Israel urgently allows fuel in to Gaza’s hospitals,” she added.

According to MAP, there are only six neonatal units at hospitals in Gaza, including Shifa and Nasser hospitals.

Hamas did thus, Palestinians cheered them on.
Sow, reap.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 7:48 am

The good news Cassie is Daily Mail is not highlighting Rat Bags March in Oz, neither news.com.au, Sydney Moaning Herald has it at the top – Sky News down a bit

rosie
rosie
October 22, 2023 7:51 am

Hamas and their supporters.
Lying liars lying.
No more claims of white phosphoru

Pogria
Pogria
October 22, 2023 7:52 am

Here’s one for all you married men. I’ve watched it three times and am still gob-smacked.

Cassie of Sydney
October 22, 2023 7:52 am

This has been uploaded in the last few hours, whilst the overnight London festival of Jew haters was going on.

Professor Ralph Schollhammer discusses the rise in anti-Semitism in the UK, amid the ongoing Israel-Hamas war. He’s good, he’s been on Outsiders.

‘It’s the beginning of the end of Jewish life in the West’ | Professor reacts to anti-Semitism surge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KQNvr7Hpbk

It’s over in Western Europe.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 7:54 am

‘Yeah nah’: Waleed Aly’s holier-than-thou claim that uneducated Aussies couldn’t grasp the Voice proposal doesn’t pass the pub test

The Project host may have been right to say that those of us with a mere high school diploma were less likely to vote yes to the referendum.

The idea an Indigenous Voice could “close the gap” is so absurd only an intellectual would believe it, writes James Macpherson.

Because, for a second there, I thought Aly was going to conclude that ‘No’ voters were just plain dumb.

And then Waled Aly said this …

“The concept of a Voice is… when you come to them (non tertiary-educated people) with this idea that’s actually quite abstract and complicated they’re going to respond with an instinct, and that instinct is it just doesn’t feel right.”

Ah. Got it.

We’re not saying people who don’t have tertiary education don’t know what they’re doing.

We’re just saying they can’t get their brains around “quite abstract and complicated” things like, you know, how they are supposed to vote.

As a uni drop out myself, I wasn’t offended by Aly’s comments.

I was too busy rolling around on the floor laughing, as uneducated people want to do when listening to high-minded academics pontificate.

The idea that an Indigenous Voice to Parliament would “close the gap” is so absurd only an intellectual would believe it.

Most everyone else, as the data shows, was sharp enough to see through the smoke and mirrors and recognise the Voice for what it was.

It was a proposal that would divide Australians by race.

It was a proposal that would assign Aboriginals to perpetual victimhood.

It was a proposal making promises it could not keep.

It was a proposal that would surely set the scene for more racial conflict, with Treaty hiding right under its skirt.

Did I miss anything?

And I came up with all of that without having spent four years accumulating a $50,000 HECS debt!

Only a highly-educated person could insist something so obvious was “actually quite abstract”.

Yeah, nah.

Cassie of Sydney
October 22, 2023 7:55 am

Then we have weasel politicians in the West, such as Sleazy, when confronted with the overt Jew hatred, coming from Muslims and leftists, always insist on mentioning “Islamophobia” in the same sentence. This deliberately minimises genocidal Jew hatred.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 7:59 am

Pogria
Oct 22, 2023 7:52 AM

Here’s one for all you married men. I’ve watched it three times and am still gob-smacked.

Pogria,

I have always enjoyed this – I’ve watched it three times and am still gob-smacked.Deny, Deny, Deny scene from the movie ‘A Guide For The Married Man’

Indolent
Indolent
October 22, 2023 8:03 am

I haven’t bothered to read this paper. All I know is that they’re doing their level best to bring it to fruition. But just in case anyone is interested –
 
The Human Ecology of Overshoot: Why a Major ‘Population Correction’ Is Inevitable

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 22, 2023 8:03 am

Before the World Cup began I had a few bucks on South Africa at a measly $6 to win the thing.
They’ve left it late in the quarters & semi’s but still got the job done.
However, considering all the hate overnight, I didn’t feel much when they won.

Indolent
Indolent
October 22, 2023 8:06 am

We’re finally getting there.

Electric cars risk becoming uninsurable

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 8:07 am

Lizzie be pleased you will be out of Amman – we flew out of there back to Dubai on Emirates and also were in the Lounge at Amman

For you

The First U.S. Military Engagement in an Expanded Israeli War Has Begun

October 21, 2023 – Sundance

Today, the sketchy Pentagon statements about the USS Carney are starting to make sense. The initial suspicions within the originating statements {GO DEEP} are well founded. Today, the Pentagon is admitting the events in the Red Sea were “much more significant” than originally outlined.

Here’s the big picture, and we will go a little deeper.

The USS Carney is an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer assigned to USS Ford Carrier Strike Group 12. As part of the October 8th deployment into the eastern Mediterranean, the USS Carney took up a defensive position for the strike group by going through the Suez Canal into the Red Sea. Fortunately, the Carney arrived in the Red Sea, on mission, Wednesday, just hours before four cruise missiles and 15 drones entered the established defensive perimeter airspace.

The Carney’s interceptions, the defensive activity against the missiles and drones, took place over 9 hours on Wed/Thursday.

All of the interceptions happened in commercial airspace, meaning the drones and missiles were targeted to fly at altitudes of commercial air travel.

Obviously, the destination of the missiles and drones was/is unknown; however, the Pentagon said “potentially” targeted to hit Israel.

Now keep in mind, this report from CNN (think State Dept) is from a U.S. official that is NOT the Pentagon. Meaning this report is political in nature and slanted to provide the State Dept/political Intelligence Community perspective. Again, this is not a military report; this is a report from the U.S. political angle of government.

The Rest is a fascinating read!

Indolent
Indolent
October 22, 2023 8:08 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 8:12 am

In probably the Most Irrelevant News of the Day

Olivia Newton-John’s daughter Chloe Lattanzi reveals she was struck by mysterious illness – but claims she was later cured by Balinese elephants

caveman
caveman
October 22, 2023 8:12 am

Watching Ed Husic on Sky, there’s pond scum right there.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 8:18 am

Astonishing declaration in Germany. “Unfortunately, they cannot stay here.”

The Chancellor of Germany is taking a new, tough tone on immigration policy. – We have to deport more and do it faster – says Olaf Scholz. – We must have the strength to tell people that unfortunately, they cannot stay here – he adds.

In an interview with “Der Spiegel” magazine, Germany’s Chancellor Olaf Scholz outlines a more restrictive stance of his government on immigration. As he emphasizes, Germany needs foreign workers and refugees also have the right to asylum, but “those who do not belong to either of these groups cannot stay with us.”

– That’s why we limit illegal immigration – too many are coming in – he says.

As a tool, Scholz mentions a “whole package of measures”, including the protection of Europe’s external borders and the tightening of border controls. These measures also include the solidarity mechanism for refugee relocation agreed upon in the EU, which – as he expressed hope – will be supported by the European Parliament. Deportations are also an important measure: – We need to deport more and faster – he emphasizes.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 8:21 am

Israel is deploying submarines. Something big is about to happen

Kadosh was to relay that submarines had been deployed at combat positions along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea in the Middle East in response to escalating threats from Iran and Hezbollah.

The submarines are a vital element of Israel’s combat capabilities. The Defence Blog emphasizes that their deployment in the Middle East “is a clear signal of this country’s commitment to maintaining a strong deterrent stance”.

“Israeli submarines guarding safety”

The Israeli Navy currently operates five modern Dolphin I/II class submarines. All were designed and constructed by the German company Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft (HDW). Work is also underway on another Dolphin II class vessel. Photos of INS Drakon, the one in question, went around the world in early August. The vessel was spotted in front of the assembly hall in Kiel, in northern Germany.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 22, 2023 8:24 am

Steve trickler
Oct 22, 2023 7:41 AM
100,000 Jew haters march in London.

They wouldn’t try doing that around Tottenham in North London. Tottenham Hotspur (the Football Club that I follow) has a lot of Jewish football supporters. And they can riot when they want to.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 22, 2023 8:27 am

Johnny Rotten
Oct 22, 2023 8:24 AM

So many MSM consuming knob gobblers.

Cassie of Sydney
October 22, 2023 8:28 am

This is the scum Israel has to deal with, this is what the scum in cities such as Sydney and London yesterday and overnight come out to support, baying for Jewish blood, baying for dead Jewish children…..

Jewish Harry Potter fan, 12, found dead with her grandmother after being abducted by Hamas

Noya Dan was kidnapped by Hamas terrorists whilst staying with her grandma in Kibbutz Nir Oz

The 12-year-old Israeli Harry Potter fan Noya Dan has been found murdered by Hamas terrorists, rescue workers have confirmed.

Noya was staying with her 80-year-old grandmother Carmela at her home at Kibbutz Nir Oz when Hamas gunmen attacked on October 7. Noya, who was autistic, had been presumed kidnapped and taken to Gaza, but her family confirmed in a Facebook post on Wednesday night that her body, along with her grandmother’s, had been identified by rescue workers.

Her mother, Galit Dan, who had been in a panic room five miles away when Nir Oz was attacked, shared the heartbreaking final voice message her daughter sent her that day.

“Mum, there was a big boom at the door that scared me,” Noya had whispered. “All the windows in grandma’s house were broken at the entrance. Because there was another boom, there are many broken windows. Mummy I’m scared. There are people in the house — help me.”

“Thank you to all of you who shared her story to help us bring her home. Our hearts are broken.”

Israel had previously shared Noya’s photo on X/Twitter with the message: “This beautiful 12-year-old girl with autism was kidnapped from her home by Hamas terrorists and was taken to Gaza. Noya is sensitive, kind, funny and a massive Harry Potter fan.”

On Monday, JK Rowling shared a picture of her young fan in a Harry Potter costume, and condemned the kidnapping of children.

Noya and Carmela’s deaths were also confirmed by the Israeli ministry of foreign affairs.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 8:33 am

Why Israel Doesn’t Win Wars Anymore

According to Hanania, in the post he’s graciously allowed us to excerpt below, Israel and other advanced countries have been hamstrung by human rights concerns.

Wars of Necessity, and Wars of Choice

Why Israel faces a tragic decision

Over the last few centuries, powerful states have been getting worse at winning wars against weaker adversaries. The chart below presents one such analysis demonstrating this development in international politics.

Almost all statistical work in international relations should be taken with a grain of salt, but the results here are almost certainly correct. At one point, Western nations ruled over the vast majority of the world’s surface area. Today, the US can struggle for decades to impose its will on one poor nation on the other side of the globe and end up leaving in disgrace.

It seems unlikely that there’s a technological reason for this change. If anything, strong countries should be getting better at accomplishing their objectives. Sure, insurgents now have things like cellphones and IEDs, but that’s unlikely to be as important as new tools primarily available to rich states like nuclear weapons, precision bombs, and advanced satellite and surveillance technology.

The mention of nuclear weapons in the last sentence should provide a clue as to where I’m going with this. The use of nukes in a conflict like Afghanistan or Iraq is unthinkable. This provides a clear example of how new humanitarian ideas make it more difficult to fight and win wars.

Looking at the US and Israeli wars in the Middle East of the last several decades, it’s remarkable how few people have been directly killed by the stronger side. I’ve gathered numbers for eight conflicts below.

Let’s put these numbers in some historical perspective. Only looking at civilians who died due to direct military action, in WWII Germany lost 1.5-3 million and Japan lost up to 800,000. Even after the Second World War, millions of civilians died in Korea.

These are all interstate conflicts, but that’s not the point, as Western countries used to be a lot more willing to commit atrocities when putting down insurgencies too.

It would be nice to believe that there isn’t a tradeoff between protecting innocent life and winning wars.

My theory of the origins of counterinsurgency doctrine is that it emerged in the late 2000s as a way to tell policymakers what they wanted to hear, which is that you defeat an enemy and develop a stable state primarily by winning civilians over to your side, and you win civilians to your side by looking out for their objective interests. Yet this would be quite amazing if it were true.

Given that insurgents hide among civilians and live off the local economy and infrastructure, there will often be times when killing them or otherwise hindering their operations will require risking harm being done to the broader public.

How much harm one is willing to inflict on noncombatants is a political and moral question.

The basic idea behind COIN was that third world populations will like you if you’re nice to them and hate you if you’re mean to them, and you need to do things to make them like you. This isn’t completely crazy, as all else being equal it is much better to have the people on your side.

But insurgents usually have few qualms about killing collaborators, and sometimes even their families, which shapes the incentive structure that civilians face when deciding which side to support.

Israel is a different story though. Its opponents pose an existential threat to its way of life.

Despite this, the country has been remarkably restrained.

All of the Palestinian civilians killed in the last fifty years don’t even come close to the number of lives lost in the US war on ISIS, much less the Second World War.

This is primarily due to Israel facing a lot more scrutiny than most other nations would under similar circumstances.

cohenite
October 22, 2023 8:34 am

Listening to usual cultured voice commentator from bbc saying 20 trucks now supplying G&S to gaza which will be quickly sold by hamas for weapons can’t be one off but needs to be focus and repeated with not just 20 trucks but scores of trucks bringing in supplies.

The Israelis should be fighting the media not hamas.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 22, 2023 8:34 am

It’s a deep rabbit hole.

My Lunch Break:

St. Louis, The Gateway to Egypt?

Crossie
Crossie
October 22, 2023 8:38 am

Indolent
Oct 22, 2023 7:54 AM
Not just the UK.

The Gateway Pundit
@gatewaypundit

Detroit Synagogue Leader Found Stabbed To Death Outside Her Home

Will Biden wring his rhetorical hands about this murder and antisemitism in his next speech as he did about the Muslim boy and Islamophobia in last week’s speech?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 8:40 am

Lockdown sceptics are rapidly being vindicated – Paywalled

The Covid inquiry has shown how the scientific process was perverted by advisers steeped in groupthink

Was there a better way? That’s the question central to everything at the Covid Inquiry.

Yet for the most part, it has featured a procession of pro-lockdown voices relentlessly pushing the inevitable conclusion that we didn’t lock down either hard or soon enough.

This costly exercise has been a demonstration of reputation management and vanity preservation, showing a desperate scientific establishment spinning to cement the message that there was no other way. Never underestimate the power of ego, even over the best-qualified individuals. Their reputations are interwoven with that of lockdown. If restrictions are discovered conclusively to have caused more harm than good, what does that say of those who promoted them and ridiculed any opposition, including mine?

Unfortunately for them, as story after story emerges of the damaging consequences of lockdown, the vanishingly small number of us in the scientific community who voiced our concerns about the policy are being vindicated.

Whether it’s the negative developmental effect on young children, stunning levels of non-Covid excess deaths, a ticking cancer time bomb, waves of mental health issues, the economic ramifications that affect every single one of us, increases in teenage eating disorders, business closures, wasted years – I could go on and on. Millions and millions of lives were disrupted and ruined, including those of the youngest and poorest in our society.

Belatedly, the Covid inquiry has also begun to confirm our suspicions about how the scientific process itself was perverted. It has released messages between two top government scientific advisers. They show how when one flicker of common sense appeared, in the shape of Prof Carl Heneghan, the establishment closed ranks and branded him a “f—wit”.

Heneghan did more than any Sage member to promote an evidence-based approach. Let us not forget that, without his intervention, any death following a Covid infection, be it weeks or months after, would have continued to have been recorded as a Covid death. If someone caught the virus in April, recovered in days, but was hit by a bus in July, that was being logged as a Covid death before he acted.

Sincere apologies are now required. Challenging any consensus is fundamentally important to good science – especially that of an unproven intervention such as lockdown. The onus should have been on those proposing such a radical new policy to justify it, not the reverse.

Sweden is the elephant in the room. A nation of relatively similar wealth and standing to us, it largely avoided lockdowns yet has emerged with impressively low excess death figures. Should the inquiry not be asking how? Anders Tegnell, the architect of their successful strategy, should have been a priority witness.

In September 2020 myself, Prof Heneghan, Prof Sunetra Gupta and a number of others penned an open letter to the prime minister promoting what is effectively “focused protection”. The idea was to deliver a laser-sharp, well-funded focus on protecting the most vulnerable and to allow the rest of the country, and importantly the economy, to continue as normal, making decisions based on their own tolerance for risk.

I am more convinced than ever that this was the path to take. Some arrogantly dismissed it as unworkable.

But enforcing house arrest on the entire country went so brilliantly and without issue, didn’t it?

I have little doubt that if a reasoned and fair analysis is ever conducted, the number of life-years lost to lockdown and its consequences will be far greater than those tragically taken by the virus.

If we refuse even to tentatively ask if there was a better way, we are guaranteeing a repeat of our pandemic failures.

Crossie
Crossie
October 22, 2023 8:40 am

Indolent
Oct 22, 2023 7:55 AM
You Just Can’t Make This Up: GOP House Members Are Likely to Elect Former Soros Group Spokesman as Speaker of the House – Who Wanted to End Electoral College – AND There’s Video!

They can go ahead with it and then will promptly be primaried before the next election. This will simply be a flagging exercise to Republican voters as to who needs to go.

Indolent
Indolent
October 22, 2023 8:42 am

Albert Pike’s letter outlining the Illuminati’s plan for three world wars – is it genuine?

The 12 minute clip (date unknown but obviously not recent) is very interesting. It states that the text of the letter by Pike (the authenticity of which is in doubt) was included in a book published in 1925 so whoever wrote the letter was either amazingly prescient or preparing a template. Whatever the source, the danger of it coming to fruition is becoming all too real.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 22, 2023 8:43 am

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 22, 2023 7:42 AM
London Tube driver leads pro Palestine chants.

I hope that the driver is not rostered onto any trains to Golders Green or Edgeware.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 22, 2023 8:46 am

Pogria that is my present wife, the glass didn’t work twice before!

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 22, 2023 8:47 am

Sir Bobby Charlton brown bread. Manchester United legend, World Cup winner. Only Geoff Hurst remaining from that side.
He felt guilty that he survived the Munich air crash that took the lives of 8 of his teammates in 1958.
Vale.

JohnJJJ
JohnJJJ
October 22, 2023 8:48 am

The ‘threat’ of invading Gaza has certainly brought the Hamas supporters out into the public in every country. They can’t help but show their Jihad commitment.
Perhaps that is the reason. Israelis are smart. Now the West knows. I hope our coppers got plenty of photos. Easiest flushing in history.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 22, 2023 8:49 am

bbc saying 20 trucks now supplying G&S to gaza which will be quickly sold by hamas for weapons

May not even have to do that.

Report: Trucks with aid to Gaza were not inspected for weapons (21 Oct)

Big banner on truck saying Egyptian Red Crescent and State of Qatar.

One guess where the boss guy of Hamas resides.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 8:55 am

Figures on Palestinian casualties are Hamas propaganda and should be treated as such – Paywalled

There is no ‘health ministry’ or ‘health authorities’ in Gaza. Just people told what to say by terrorists

Tuesday saw Western media commit a historically flagrant mistake with far-reaching consequences.

Reporting on a blast at a hospital in the Gaza Strip, the most prestigious newsrooms on Earth made the seemingly collective decision to suggest that an Israeli missile had struck the hospital.

Live on air, BBC News’ John Donnison confidently proclaimed that “it is hard to see what else this could be really, given the size of the explosion, other than an Israeli air strike, or several air strikes”.

The Associated Press insisted that “hundreds” were “killed in [an] Israeli airstrike on Gaza City” attributing the claim to an unnamed “Health Ministry”. Reuters followed suit, attributing the same claim to even more mysterious “health authorities”. The New York Times inched toward the still-distant truth by referencing the “Palestinian Health Ministry” and “Palestinians” more generally. It was initially claimed that 500 had died.

As it turned out, the cause of the explosion was an errant missile aimed at Israel by Hamas-allied terror group Palestinian Islamic Jihad, not an Israeli airstrike. A senior European intelligence source later told AFP that he believed a maximum of 50 people were killed, not the hundreds breathlessly pronounced dead by the press and their sources. This is consistent with the fact that the jihadi rocket appears to have struck the car park, not the hospital itself. The hospital is still operating, and appears to be largely undamaged.

The repercussions of this terrible journalism have been world-historical in their nature.

A meeting between President Joe Biden and Arab leaders to discuss the ongoing crisis was cancelled, and those same leaders are now condemning Israel as their people take to the streets. Many of those protests raged outside of American embassies in the region, prompting the State Department to issue a worldwide warning for US citizens overseas. And at home, American protesters, egged on by leading anti-Semites in Congress, are applying pressure on elected members of the Democratic Party to oppose Israel’s effort to wipe out Hamas.

So “no harm, no foul” doesn’t quite apply in this instance.

There’s little that can be done to remedy the propagation of this vile blood libel against Israel. Anti-Semites and ignoramuses around the world will cite false accounts of Tuesday’s events as a reason for Israel to lay down its righteous arms in the near-term and as a supposed example of its inhumanity for years to come.

But what the media must do is take steps to ensure this never happens again.

This starts with being clear about the source of the disinformation they used to justify their reckless reporting on the mislabeled hospital attack.

Because in truth, all of the various entities named in the press – authorities, ministries, and governments – were euphemisms for the real originators of this smear and this war: Hamas.

All “official” information attributed to governmental sources coming out of Gaza emanates from Hamas, the terrorist organization that rose to power there in 2006 and has ruled ever since. No official of any kind is allowed to speak to the press without Hamas’ approval of the “facts,” figures, and implications of them.

That fact alone should be enough to stop any reputable journalist from citing vague Palestinian sources in Gaza credulously, especially without a disclaimer about who their real masters are.

Yet because news organizations are desperate to prove their worth to consumers with numbers and details suggesting that they’re especially well-sourced, they continue to launder Hamas’ lies.

But surely reporters would not continue to parrot Hamas through their intermediaries even after the ultra-consequential, industry-wide disgrace of Tuesday?

They most assuredly would.

“The death toll in Gaza has reached 3,785 people and more than 13,000 have been injured, Palestinian health officials say,” declared NBC News on Thursday.

“The strike on a Gaza City hospital was the single deadliest incident of civilians in Gaza since the war began after Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack,” asserted the Washington Post faultily on Wednesday night. “Israel has carried out retaliatory airstrikes in Gaza that local authorities say have killed at least 3,400 people”.

Al Jazeera, it should come as no surprise, is reporting that the death toll outstrips 4,000 according to a “health ministry”.

These aren’t news reports, they’re terrorist propaganda.

It should hardly be on readers and viewers to sort through the disinformation issued by Hamas and dutifully echoed by the Western press, but it seems that task is likely to continue to fall on them. After all, if even Tuesday’s gross blunder has left the media unchastened, it seems clear that their unscrupulous relationship with Hamas terrorists continues.

Whenever you see a figure for Palestinian casualties in Gaza quoting any kind of officials or authorities, remember: that is Hamas talking.

And based on Tuesday’s hospital explosion, casualties will have been exaggerated many times over – and may well, in fact, have been caused by the terrorists themselves.

Meanwhile in UK – Colleagues left ‘appalled’ by top doctor’s comments on Israeli response to Hamas attacks

Dr Camilla Kingdon also failed to mention child hostages when writing about conflict and hospital strike in Gaza

Dr Camilla Kingdon, the president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH), wrote to members on Friday about the conflict and the blast at the Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza earlier in the week.

She wrote: “One act of barbarity cannot and must not justify a wider descent into barbarism and so the images of sheer panic and raw grief in the aftermath of the Gaza hospital blast are etched on many of our minds.”

Her comments came after controversy about who was responsible for the explosion at the hospital on Tuesday night.

Dr Kingdon’s comments have “appalled” some members of the college.

Dr Kingdon’s statement has been amended since its publication on Friday to add that the US government believes the hospital explosion was caused by a “malfunction” of a rocket fired from Gaza.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 22, 2023 8:56 am

I think the only thing stopping the Israelis from pushing the sub human palis into the sea is 6,000,000 dead Jews. The Israelis just couldn’t do it no matter how bad the pali’s are. The only thing I would do is the clinical removal of hamas leaders and not provide any services to Gaza and seal the border. Every rocket the pali’s send over, send one back.

Razey
Razey
October 22, 2023 8:58 am

The fact remains that the LWNJs cannot be reasoned with and they hold all the power of the institutions. It is necessary for things to get much worse for Hoe public to rise against them. The No vote might just be a first chink in their armor.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 22, 2023 8:59 am

Diplomatic Immunity

Great cover. Elvis would smile.

Pet Shop Boys – Always on my mind (Official Video) [4k Upgrade]

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 8:59 am
will
will
October 22, 2023 9:01 am

The submarines are a vital element of Israel’s combat capabilities. The Defence Blog emphasizes that their deployment in the Middle East “is a clear signal of this country’s commitment to maintaining a strong deterrent stance”.

“Israeli submarines guarding safety”

carrying nuclear tipped ICBMs

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 22, 2023 9:01 am

Every rocket the pali’s send over, send one back.

I would send at least 10 back.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 9:05 am

Someone Braver and More Astute tha AirBus Albo

Netanyahu meets Italian PM in Tel Aviv

Italian PM Giorgia Meloni arrives in Israel for solidarity visit, meets Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu.

Meanwhile Our Coward Labor PM Albosleezy – ‘State of war’: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has ‘no plans’ to visit Israel during his trip to the United States

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has confirmed he won’t be visiting Israel anytime soon as tensions with Hamas escalate.

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton had called on Mr Albanese to visit the Jewish state on his way to the United States next week to provide support to the Israeli leadership.

But speaking at a press conference on Friday in Perth, Mr Albanese made it clear he woultn’t be travelling to the Middle East as the area was in a “state of war”.

“The decision of the Leader of the Opposition to raise such an issue publicly, that’s a matter for him, but at this point in time, I have no plans to visit the Middle East,” he told reporters.

“And in terms of the security agencies as well, there is no disagreement from the position that I’ve taken.” – Wuss – Mike Burgess Chief ASIO Strikes again

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 22, 2023 9:06 am

Johnny Rotten
Oct 22, 2023 9:01 AM

Israel is remarkably restrained at the moment. What’s going on behind the scenes is anybody’s guess.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 22, 2023 9:08 am

Yeah. Ellen Ransley in the Courier Mail:

Indigenous leaders devastated by the outcome of last Saturday’s Voice to Parliament referendum are set to end their week of silence this weekend, but what comes next remains unclear.

The referendum – the result of years of consultation and the express request of Indigenous Australians through the 2017 Uluru Statement from the Heart – was overwhelmingly defeated last Saturday.

Every state voted No, and nationally the referendum was defeated 60 per cent to 40 per cent.

Anthony Albanese and Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney have spent the week maintaining their disappointment, but respect for the result, and reiterating their commitment to closing the gap.

The Prime Minister said it was a “difficult time” for Indigenous Australians, noting that many remote communities overwhelmingly voted for the Voice.

In the wake of the results, leaders called for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander flags to be lowered to half mast and a “week of silence” to be observed to allow grieving.

When that week ends, those leaders are expected to outline next steps, but as of Friday those details were yet to be confirmed.

Whatever comes next follows a parliamentary sitting week in which the Coalition sought to pressure the government on Indigenous affairs.

Question time was full of questions from the Coalition about whether Labor still stood by its commitment to implement the Uluru Statement from the Heart “in full”, given that includes a Makarrata Commission for truth-telling and treaty.

On Wednesday, Opposition Leader Peter Dutton asked Mr Albanese whether it was his position that he “doesn’t know if he personally supports Makarrata, treaty and truth-telling until he speaks with the referendum working group”.

In response, Mr Albanese said he “accept(ed) the outcome of the referendum” and respected that Indigenous people were taking the time to mourn.

A day later, Mr Albanese and the government rejected a push by Mr Dutton to support a royal commission into child abuse in Indigenous communities and an audit into Indigenous spending programs.

Mr Dutton, in attempting to suspend standing orders in the House of Representatives, said Australians had voted for a new way forward and were “demanding action”, adding that Mr Albanese was “weak” and “indecisive”.

Mr Albanese labelled it a “political stunt” designed to “whip up outrage”, adding that he would not make child abuse a partisan issue.

He accused Mr Dutton of having “nothing positive to offer the country”.

It was a sentiment shared by renegade Liberal backbencher Bridget Archer – a survivor of child sexual abuse – who crossed the floor to vote against her party.

Mr Dutton said he believed Ms Archer had made “a mistake” in voting against the inquiry, and he couldn’t “understand why anyone would vote against a royal commission into what I think is one of the country’s most serious issues”.

Ms Archer later told The Guardian that Mr Dutton appeared to be “weaponising” child abuse for “political advantage”, adding that she would support a royal commission into child sexual abuse if it were to probe the prevalence of the problem in all parts of the community, not just Indigenous communities.

“We don’t want to divide the country by race, yet we’re singling out abuse in Indigenous communities,” she said.

“It’s very difficult to see (the motion) as anything other than weaponising abuse for some perceived political advantage.”

Mr Dutton and his Indigenous Australians spokesperson Jacinta Nampijinpa Price were also lashed by Indigenous leaders, some of whom broke the week of silence to warn the Coalition that the safety of children “should not be politicised or used as a platform to advance a political position”.

“It is frustrating and disappointing to hear the Opposition Leader and Senator Price repeating the same claims and calls they made earlier this year, again with no evidence and no credible solutions,” a statement signed by the likes of the Coalition of Peaks, NACCHO, Lowitja Institute, and Reconciliation Australia said.

Child abuse is far too prevalent in Australia full stop. Singling out Aboriginal families and communities is harmful and puts ideology before evidence”. (FMD)

The Grace Tame foundation also joined the pile-on, saying it “strongly rejects” Mr Dutton’s call because child sexual abuse “should never be used for political purposes”.

Grace Tame said Mr Dutton had wrongly singled out First Nations peoples who were grieving the outcome of the referendum.

“I find it incredibly ironic that the Leader of the Opposition was so strongly against the Voice to Parliament for reasons including that he did not want to divide a country by race, yet is now calling for a royal commission that singles out First Nations communities,” she said.

Earlier in the week, Mr Dutton had formally retracted his offer to hold a second referendum purely on recognising Indigenous Australians in the Constitution, saying Australians were tired of referendums.

Meanwhile, in Queensland, Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk was forced to admit the state’s Path to Treaty was unlikely to go ahead without bipartisan support after Opposition Leader David Crisafulli withdrew his support in the wake of the referendum’s result.

Queensland had the highest No vote in the country – 69 per cent – with only three inner-city Brisbane electorates, held by the Greens, voting Yes.

Mr Crisafulli on Sunday reiterated his support for truth and treaty but by Thursday said the LNP would no longer support the “divisive” plan and would abandon it if it won government next October.

“Pursuing a Path to Treaty will lead to greater division, not reconciliation, and I cannot support that,” he said.

Again, white pollies telling blacks how to feel. There should be no week of ‘mourning’ fer phuck sake.
Secondly what is Archer and Tame on about? Non entities.
Thirdly, it’s spokeswoman, not spokesperson.
Finally if these ‘leaders’ are actually that, they would be supporting any motion to investigate Aboriginal kids’ mistreatment. Sack the lot of them.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 9:08 am

Anal Airbus went to Kiev to visit the clown did she/he/it not?

Dot
Dot
October 22, 2023 9:09 am

My Lunch Break:

St. Louis, The Gateway to Egypt?

That would be Cairo.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 22, 2023 9:10 am

MetPlod weasel out.
Posie Parker lands a poser.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 22, 2023 9:11 am

Steve trickler
Oct 22, 2023 8:59 AM
Diplomatic Immunity

Great cover. Elvis would smile.

Pet Shop Boys – Always on my mind (Official Video) [4k Upgrade]

Farking Brillo.

Elvis says to give the poster 200 Up Thumbs.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 9:11 am

The Tame thing seems to be modelled on the Greta to some extent.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 22, 2023 9:13 am

I see Albo is off to China in November as well. I suppose he needs to look important before morphing back to just the Member for Grayndler.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 22, 2023 9:17 am

The Prime Minister said it was a “difficult time” for Indigenous Australians, noting that many remote communities overwhelmingly voted for the Voice.

Rubbish and BS.

Not from the analysis that I have been reading. What ANALysis has Tennis Elbow been looking at? Probably from his own FOCKUS Group Marketing Wally Merchants.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 9:17 am

Police under fire for allowing ‘jihad’ chant at protest

Probe after pro-Palestinian message heard on Tube Tannoy

Police have been criticised for failing to act as protesters at a rally in London called for “jihad” to “liberate people in the concentration camp called Palestine”

Ministers are understood to be “deeply concerned” by the Metropolitan Police’s handling of the incident on Saturday.

Later, the force said that no offence had been identified but that they would talk to one of the men involved to “discourage” such chanting in the future.

At the event, organised by Hizb ut-Tahrir, members of the extremist Islamic group, which both David Cameron and Tony Blair, wanted to ban, bore a banner with the slogan “Muslim Armies! Rescue the people of Palestine”.

In one video clip, a speaker is filmed asking the assembled crowd: “What is the solution to liberate people in the concentration camp called Palestine?”

In response, several men in the crowd are seen chanting “jihad, jihad, jihad”.

In a comment posted on Twitter, the Met said: “The word jihad has a number of meanings but we know the public will most commonly associate it with terrorism. We have specialist counter-terrorism officers here who have particular knowledge in this area.

“They have assessed this video, filmed at the Hizb ut-Tahrir protest in central London today, and have not identified any offences arising from the specific clip. However, recognising the way language like this will be interpreted by the public and the divisive impact it will have, officers have identified the man involved and will be speaking to him shorty to discourage any repeat of similar chanting.”

One minister said the police response was “really outrageous”.

The Met said that another incident recorded at the rally constituted a hate crime offence which it was investigating. In the video, two young men are shown chanting in Arabic words which appear to include Hamas and “Yahud”, which means Jews.

In a tweet, the Met said: “We have specialist officers with language skills and subject expertise assisting with this operation. The actions in the video amount to a hate crime offence. “Officers are actively working to identify those in the video.”

duncanm
duncanm
October 22, 2023 9:19 am

Noticed how every motion from the opposition is now tagged as ‘playing politics’, while the adults just try to fix things (/sarc)

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 9:22 am

Tame’s rudeness to scummo at the Lodge reminds me of the Greta and Trump at the UN. So much of this Marxist agitprop is internationally coordinated.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 22, 2023 9:25 am

The 60% would like an apology from the PM.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 9:28 am

Yes anal pretty much endorsed Fartin’s attack on people like me. I’ve always had the greatest contempt for greazy meja parasites like Fartin.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 22, 2023 9:36 am

London Tube driver leads pro Palestine chants.

Standby for:
BBC Fact Checkers Declare Incident Deceptively Edited To Remove Context.
Probably.

Zatara
Zatara
October 22, 2023 9:44 am

Will Biden wring his rhetorical hands about this murder and antisemitism in his next speech as he did about the Muslim boy and Islamophobia in last week’s speech?

Given that she was also a major Democrat operative, perhaps so.

As she lived in Detroit nailing down a motivation for killing her is complicated, making eulogizing her a bit of a minefield.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 22, 2023 9:45 am
Rabz
October 22, 2023 9:49 am

the 20th century’s towering work of historical fiction: Life and Fate, by Vasily Grossman. That novel, which takes the reader from the Battle of Stalingrad to the nazi death camps, traverses the entire dark heart of the 20th century.

The TV serialisation is highly recommended.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 22, 2023 9:54 am

From the Oz.

Dwight
58 minutes ago
Free Palestine—from Hamas.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 9:57 am

Great article in Spiked about Owen Jones and ‘the noble savage’.

Indolent
Indolent
October 22, 2023 9:58 am
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 22, 2023 9:58 am

“Muslim Armies! Rescue the people of Palestine”.

Yeah, like they did so well in 1947, 1967, 1973……

Kneel
Kneel
October 22, 2023 10:02 am

“Here’s a fact, not all cultures are equal.”

Clearly, the UN thinks so.

Are Cats aware that, while refugees from every other nation and area in the world are dealt with by the UNHRC, Palestinians refugees have their own UN authority – UNRWA.

Are Cars aware that when it was created, there were less than 250,000 such refugees, and now there are over 5 million?

Are Cats aware that, unlike refugees from every other nation and area, Palestinians are still considered refugees years after they have settled in another country?

Are Cats aware that, unlike refugees from every other nation and area, the children of these settled refugees are also considered refugees even when they are conceived, born and raised in another country?

All true, all seemingly designed to perpetuate victim culture, all seemingly designed to foster resentment and hatred, all seemingly designed to make Jews and Israel appear as “oppressors” and “bad”.

How can anyone of good conscience support such a thing? Why did the Australian government provide $20 million a year to this group between 2016 and 2020 (and likely more since then) instead of demanding that all peoples, all refugees, are treated equally and by the same UN group (UNHRC)?

Rabz
October 22, 2023 10:06 am

Milt – Ray Fartin’ is a preposterous pillock.

Anyone who takes him seriously is even stupider than he is.

The imbecile has spent most of his adult life poncing around on braindead free to air commercial TV in a plastic helmet, FFS.

He is to investigative j’ism what jimmy savile was to the BBC’s credibility.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 22, 2023 10:08 am

Tame’s rudeness to scummo at the Lodge reminds me of the Greta and Trump at the UN. So much of this Marxist agitprop is internationally coordinated.

(Lack of) Grace’s insolence when meeting SloMo would dismiss her comments on the Lieborals anywhere but Lord Waffleworth’s Grauniad.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 10:09 am

I never expected any sense or decency out of the department of foreign affairies. One of the worst Canbra departments imo. Full of entitled soft handed nincompoop tax leaches.

bons
bons
October 22, 2023 10:10 am

I started watching Outsiders but gave up.
Sunday mornings are about coffee, croissants, maybe a little gardening, nice music, and planning lunch.
Becoming depressed is a weekday activity.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 10:12 am

Correct Rabz. A Channel Nine clone

Rabz
October 22, 2023 10:13 am

Tame’s rudeness to scummo

Stupid little slag. She’ll be remembered solely for that instance of petulant idiocy and nothing else.

Mind you, her fifteen seconds expired years ago. As for Goose Morristeen, he still hasn’t had the decency to exit public life, the fat stupid fascist fool.

Dot
Dot
October 22, 2023 10:14 am

Some shill on Medium is growing “research” that “proves” high red meat consumption causes diabetes.

Okay, what about the Massi before they started transitioning to a modern western diet? Incredibly healthy despite Stone Age medicine.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 22, 2023 10:14 am

Liverpool 2-0 Everton.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 22, 2023 10:14 am

Muslim Armies! Rescue the people of Palestine

That was the plan in 1948, but the Arab League were pantsed
by a bunch of committed amateurs.
They’ve been throwing a tantrum ever since.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 22, 2023 10:15 am

Education charity bosses’ fat salaries revealed

Exclusive
By natasha bita
Education Editor
@natasha_bita
7:46PM October 20, 2023

A charity that uses taxpayers’ money to build boarding schools for poor Aboriginal children has paid two top executives $815,000 over 18 months.

A $100m cost blowout for three new schools, to be built and operated by Studio Schools of Australia, has forced the federal govern­ment to pull the plug on two of the remote schools.

Now $70m in taxpayer funding set aside for three new schools will pay for just one new boarding school, to enrol 78 Aboriginal students in the Kimberley region of Western Australia by 2025.
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Studio Schools – chaired by University of Western Sydney chancellor and former Business Council of Australia chief executive Jennifer Westacott – paid its chief executive and its chief operating officer a total of $815,406 over 18 months from July 2021 to December last year.

The eye-opening salaries – equivalent to $600,000 a year between the two executives – is listed in Studio Schools’ latest annual information statement, filed with the Australian Charities and Not-for-Profit Commission.

But Studio Schools CEO Helen Drennen – a former long-time principal of the elite Wesley College in Melbourne and a member of the International Baccalaureate Board of Governors – told The Weekend Australia the salary figure was “absolutely incorrect’’.

“I can categorically tell you it’s incorrect,’’ she said, while refusing to nominate the “correct” salary.

“Every dollar we spend of government money is remitted in a meticulous way – it’s meticulously monitored by the board,” she said, before adding: “We’re doing this very properly.’’

But Dr Drennen later confirmed in an email that the salary figure was in fact correct.

“The key personnel salary payments were over an 18-month ­period,’’ she said.

“All salaries are benchmarked against industry standards, and are comparable to similar roles in other independent school systems.

“SSA has a high level of governance and oversight and is independently audited each year.’’

Studio Schools operates just one school – Yiramalay Studio School in the Kimberley region, which has 53 Aboriginal boarders from years 10 to 12.

The charity received $7m in federal government grants in the 18 months to December last year.

Its financial report shows it spent just $14,649 on teaching aids and supplies.

It spent $815,000 on salaries for its CEO and COO, plus $1.2m on salaries for 30 other employees, averaging $40,000 each in wages over 18 months.

Dr Drennen said 14 staff were Indigenous, and 27 were based at the Yiramalay school.

She said that the $427,348 spent on motor vehicle costs, $192,571 on catering and groceries and $492,770 in travel costs over 18 months “cover the catering, transport and travel for the students and teachers, who can live up to 2000km away from the school’’.

She said $1.3m spent on professional fees covered design and development work for the new school, as well as “community engagement for future sites’’.

The new Bandilngan/Windjana school, to be built an hour’s drive from Yiramalay, will board 78 students in years 7 to 9, starting in 2025.

But the original $22m construction cost, approved by the former Coalition government, has now blown out to $45.3m, through a combination of Covid-19 labour shortages, the rising cost of building materials and more expensive building regulations.

The Albanese government put the other two schools on ice after Studio Schools told the Education Department in June last year it would need $165m to build them, instead of the $66m estimated a year earlier.

Federal Education Minister Jason Clare on Friday said the federal government was giving Studio Schools $70.8m to build the Kimberley boarding school, upgrade the existing Yiramalay school, and establish a new Indigenous Education Research Centre.

“We recognise that boarding facilities play an important role in remote communities,’’ he said.

“I expect taxpayer money to be invested in what is going to make a difference to improving education outcomes.”

Federal opposition education spokeswoman Senator Sarah Henderson – who uncovered the “ridiculous’’ costing blowouts during Senate Estimates hearings – demanded “greater transparency in relation to Studio Schools’ operational expenses’’.

Rabz
October 22, 2023 10:17 am
Crossie
Crossie
October 22, 2023 10:18 am

Terrorist chic is back, the black and white keffiyehs are adorning so many empty heads in the west. May it be an identifier of who they are to the rest of us.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 22, 2023 10:19 am

Morristeen, he still hasn’t had the decency to exit public life, the fat stupid fascist fool.

Even the happy clappers can’t make the book deal work and Macquarie aren’t paying to open Lieboral doors at the moment. This may change.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 10:20 am

only 918 am here in brissie feels like 1018. Love Queensland though. Queensland sunshine super state as they used to say in the ads.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 22, 2023 10:21 am

Even Josh got a gig. Oy vey.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 10:22 am

The main Brisbane botanical gardens at the base of Mt Cootha are really something

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 22, 2023 10:22 am
hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 22, 2023 10:24 am

bons
Oct 22, 2023 10:10 AM
I started watching Outsiders but gave up.

bons, tape it and watch during the week. Very good content.

Roger
Roger
October 22, 2023 10:24 am

“All salaries are benchmarked against industry standards…”

Possibly the only thing in the aboriginal industry that is benchmarked.

Dot
Dot
October 22, 2023 10:25 am

crowing

Anyway..

Complete bullshit. They’ve been pushing this shit since I started school.

Every vegetarian I know is sickly. Some eat meat infrequently to make sure they get enough nutrients. The fattest people I know eat a tonne of processed meat, carbs & sugar.

https://medium.com/wise-well/red-meat-raises-type-2-diabetes-risk-significantly-e2e644cae119

Look at how healthy the Masai or even pre modern Aborigines were. Virtually no CVD or T2D.

Roger
Roger
October 22, 2023 10:26 am

The site is loading somewhat slowly.

Dot
Dot
October 22, 2023 10:27 am

Studio Schools – chaired by University of Western Sydney chancellor and former Business Council of Australia chief executive Jennifer Westacott – paid its chief executive and its chief operating officer a total of $815,406 over 18 months from July 2021 to December last year.

What a thoroughly useless personage.

Roger
Roger
October 22, 2023 10:28 am

50 seconds for that comment.

Crossie
Crossie
October 22, 2023 10:28 am

The Grace Tame foundation also joined the pile-on, saying it “strongly rejects” Mr Dutton’s call because child sexual abuse “should never be used for political purposes”.

One, her entire public identity is due to the fact she politicised her trauma. Two, she of all people should be advocating for the victims and not her political party. What has she done for raped indigenous children? Shame on Tame.

Zatara
Zatara
October 22, 2023 10:29 am

– That’s why we limit illegal immigration – too many are coming in – he says.

Once upon a time the fact that they were illegal would have been enough to stop them. The solution to “too many coming in” would have been more wire, more machine guns, and artillery.

Merely limiting them is a form of surrender.

Tom
Tom
October 22, 2023 10:30 am

I started watching Outsiders but gave up.

Bons, I’m sticking with it under sufferance.

Sadly, Rowan, Rita and James have taken to talking over each other like a leftwing street rabble.

It seems to be a symptom of the size of the egos in the room, not the strength of their opinions.

They would do well to realise viewers like Bons are switching off as a result.

Zatara
Zatara
October 22, 2023 10:33 am

… or more Winged Hussars.

Roger
Roger
October 22, 2023 10:34 am

Sadly, Rowan, Rita and James have taken to talking over each other like a leftwing street rabble.

I watch the highlights at a later time as they come up in my video feed. Like Bons, I don’t think I could sit through a whole program on a Sunday morning.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 22, 2023 10:38 am

Al Jazeera doing fine investigative journalism uncovering experts who conclude that Israel may very well be behind the Al-Ahli atrocity.
Very well, indeed:

Channel 4 journalists who visited the site in the aftermath of the incident also reported seeing small craters compatible with mortar strikes rather than missiles. Surrounding buildings only had superficial damage and no structural collapse.

The broadcaster said “this makes a ground detonating Israeli missile strike unlikely, but it doesn’t rule out an airburst munition which could cause major loss of life but would produce far less structural damage.”

An ‘air burst’ munition capable of incinerating cars, but not moving them, and causing major loss of life, but minor physical damage.
The absolute fiends.

Probably related to white phosphorus or the type of mini-nuke Israel used to collapse the WTC.

Shirley there’s an expert to help us with this…

Cassie of Sydney
October 22, 2023 10:39 am

“Every vegetarian I know is sickly. “

I know a few vegetarians and they are not sickly. Vegans…I agree are often sickly and pale. Are you conflating vegetarianism with veganism?

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 10:39 am

TV is for night time only imo. Can’t stand having it on during the day. YouTube tends to be my tv these days

MatrixTransform
October 22, 2023 10:41 am

but you’ve explained to us before that you’re a “math’er” and therefore a master logician

ah, there you go JC,
doing your childish vapid trick of twisting other people’s words to try and make yourself sound less idiotic

I’ll just take a moment to clear up a couple of things for you because it is becoming obvious that you really are too thick to comprehend the hole that you and your idiot mates have dug for yourselves

firstly, it is your proposal that I’m a math’er … not mine.
all I ever said was that I hadn’t math’ed in a very long time.
to find Euler’s Formula in my head the other week i had to reach back more than 20 years

JC, do you have any Trig Identities in your head?
I doubt it.

what did you JC, run it past a ‘real’ engineer or scientism?
what about the joke I made about sancho’s Invisible Plane…did you run that past them too?
and … did they chuckle … like you were a complete moron?

secondly, your moronic and illogical post hoc assertion that I’m therefore a master logician
Well, it highlights again exactly why you aren’t.

like I said the other day
try not to shoot yourself in the foot again

here’s some James Brown

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 22, 2023 10:46 am

Just listened to 4BC talking about newspaper articles.

He mentioned a story about a planned press release from the Yes people. Had been circulated among the leaders on Friday but several indicated did not want to sign it. Mentioned Australians were shameless in not voting Yes.

Can’t see at Courier Mail so is it in SMH or The Age. If so can somebody post it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 22, 2023 10:47 am

The Liars don’t want to politicise child abuse?
When did this happen.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 22, 2023 10:47 am

The Liars don’t want to politicise child abuse?
When did this happen?

Dot
Dot
October 22, 2023 10:49 am

Overland actually has an article called “How to deal with Logic Bros” back in 2021.

The left of Hayden, Walsh, Hawke and dare I say Keating is no more. It’s all man buns and hug-boxing. It is horrifyingly dumb and authoritarian.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 10:49 am

What about Hetty what’s her name? Does she have an opinion?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 22, 2023 10:55 am
Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 10:55 am

Was a pal of Kernot iirc.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 22, 2023 10:57 am

Unfortunately the West has now woken up to the damage caused by, let’s be frank, Muslim immigration policies.

Years ago it was racist to say such a thing. To me after observing for many years it was common sense would not end well. Now the tens of thousands on the streets in major cities chanting from the river to the sea are proving the point. Note the Aboriginals who are joining in.

Every decent western country or person with Western heritage must realise this conflict is a significant turning point and support Israel. Unfortunately however too many enemies are within and embedded and many politicians rely on their support.

The Voice and middle east conflict unfortunately are overlapping.

Albo is the worst kind of leader to have at such a time as he has no backbone.i guess we are lucky we have such a strong leader in the White House!

Roger
Roger
October 22, 2023 10:58 am

He mentioned a story about a planned press release from the Yes people. Had been circulated among the leaders on Friday but several indicated did not want to sign it. Mentioned Australians were shameless in not voting Yes.

If only the campaign had gone on another couple of weeks…we might have got to 80/20.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 22, 2023 11:02 am

Hetty Johnstone??? Bravehearts???

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 22, 2023 11:03 am

Yes

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 22, 2023 11:05 am

The fattest people I know eat a tonne of processed meat, carbs & sugar.

Here you go Dot.

Major Study Claims to Identify The Root Cause of Obesity: Fructose (20 Oct)

Not so sure about that, I’d myself would say the main cause of obesity is eating too much.

On the other hand I wouldn’t blame anyone for doing so since governments and the Left have been so terrifying and depressing everyone lately that comfort eating seems a logical response. Not much in the way of optimism to be had these days, and people somehow have to cope.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 22, 2023 11:07 am

Why do we need a Royal Commission? Has anything improved since the Little Children Are Sacred report? Has the situation become worse? It should not be difficult to find the answer. Any Royal Commissioned will be controlled by the usual suspects, and would become a vehicle for bashing “witie” and “decolonisation”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 22, 2023 11:09 am

Royal Commission

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 22, 2023 11:10 am

Roger, yes I have seen some Yes campaigners say it should be have delayed until November.

The more people looked into it the more they did not like it. Plus the more time people like Peta Credlin and Pauline Hanson had to find inconvenient clips from Yes campaigners.

They were their won downfall.

Looking forward to next Federal election when Labor should get Thomas Mayo, Marcia Langton and Noel Pearson etc to campaign for them.

Roger
Roger
October 22, 2023 11:10 am

The Grace Tame foundation also joined the pile-on, saying it “strongly rejects” Mr Dutton’s call because child sexual abuse “should never be used for political purposes”.

While the Grace Tame Foundation is listed as a not for profit charity, it’s principal work is political lobbying/advocacy at both state and federal levels.

Roger
Roger
October 22, 2023 11:15 am

Looking forward to next Federal election when Labor should get Thomas Mayo, Marcia Langton and Noel Pearson etc to campaign for them.

I don’t think Albo and his ALP are very popular among the more committed indigenous activists atm.

The Lakemba Muslim Association has also broken with Albo over Israel.

I predict a confluence of interests between these two groups in the future.

JC
JC
October 22, 2023 11:16 am

Trans

Stick to recipes and using preserved lemon.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 22, 2023 11:17 am

Not so sure about that, I’d myself would say the main cause of obesity is eating too much.

BoN, there appears to be increasing levels of evidence that eating low carb and/or carnivore in any quantity whenever hungry leads to weight loss, so eating “too much” may not be the issue.
Eating too much sugar and carbs does seem to be the primary driver of obesity.

Roger
Roger
October 22, 2023 11:19 am

I predict a confluence of interests between these two groups in the future.

If I were ASIO (hi, guys!) I’d be earmarking some resources to this space (as they say).

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 22, 2023 11:29 am

Any Royal Commission will be controlled by the usual suspects, and would become a vehicle for bashing “witie” and “decolonisation”.

As examples, I give you the Royal Commissions into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody and the (so-called) Stolen Generations.

And for a non-indigenous but child sexual abuse related Royal Commission, Gilliard’s “Get Abbott and Pell” inquiry.

None of the above were interested in obtaining comprehensive evidence, only in achieving their political objectives (while enriching the “right type” of lawyers at the same time).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 22, 2023 11:29 am

OSC – I also liked this story!

Potato Chips and Donuts Are as Addictive as Cocaine (17 Oct)

Underlying issue is people want to escape from reality, which lately has been depressing. Some go to cocaine. Others choose donuts.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 22, 2023 11:30 am

Kneel the palis are victims, victims of their own stupidity. Can you imagine a whole country full of lydias, noels and muntys. Its bad enough here with so many not wanting to be responsible for their own actions.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 22, 2023 11:36 am

Hairy lent me his book to read as a distraction. I’m enjoying it. Peter Ratcliffe, DCM, “Eye of the Sorm: Twenty-five years in action with the SAS”. Possibly some of the military Cats know of it already?

It’s about Twenty-five years since he wrote that book. Crikey Lizzie, you had me going there for a minute. 🙂

IMHO it is among the better of the spate of “My SAS memoirs” genre that was being published at that time.

Am unable to readily find it on my bookshelves, however there’s an excellent memoir by a former member of the SBS, in which is presented a detailed account of one of the memorable incidents in which Ratcliffe is a central player.

The SBS account is very credible, well presented, & in the understated manner only the British manage to pull off, is very uncomplimentary of Ratcliffe & the SAS’s role in the incident.

IIRC the book is First into Action, by Duncan Falconer. However unable to readily confirm this as that book isn’t on my shelves, likely still packed away from the time of the last flood.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 22, 2023 11:38 am

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese confirms China trip, will visit Beijing in November for meetings with President Xi Jinping

From the Comments

– ANOTHER trip – is this guy ever going to do some real work?

– Albo grovelling to the leader that economically coerced Australia and locks up our citizens on false charges. Disgraceful PM!

– China does nothing without conditions. Albo is weak. Xi Jinping will dominate him.

– Lets be fair Albo, You haven’t been to South America or South Africa yet.
What about the South Pole.??

Another trip away from the problems in Australia.

Then again he probably needs to be away from the Lodge at present whilst the air conditioning is being fixed. Understand that is has been getting a little hot in the kitchen of late.

– PM Anthony ‘McFly’ Albanese will be off to China once he returns after this trip to the US.

However, his compass won’t or will not point to Israel.

He must tell the RAAF air crew, don’t bother with the saying ‘Wheels up in 60’, the wheels will always be up, flying around the world saying YES! YES! YES!

– Airbus albo what a joke

– How come Albanese can’t go to Israel?

– What to pack thinks Elbow the Grovel… my Yes Shirt, my Peter Garrett hat and of course my knee pads and The Australian People’s cheque book. That should get me the validation I crave.

what a joke …Mr Fly Anywhere but Israel.

cohenite
October 22, 2023 11:40 am

Best and most relevant of the WIP:

People who eat bacon are less likely to blow themselves up.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 22, 2023 11:44 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Oct 22, 2023 11:29 AM
OSC – I also liked this story!

Potato Chips and Donuts Are as Addictive as Cocaine (17 Oct)

Underlying issue is people want to escape from reality, which lately has been depressing. Some go to cocaine. Others choose donuts.

I did but see mUnty slithering (Or should that be rolling?) by.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 22, 2023 11:46 am

As examples, I give you the Royal Commissions into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody and the (so-called) Stolen Generations.

The Aboriginal legal Service vetted the list of witnesses to the inquiry into the (so-called) Stolen generations, and anyone who’s testimony didn’t fit the story didn’t get to give evidence – the police officers who discovered “half caste” children left behind to die, for instance.

calli
calli
October 22, 2023 11:46 am

My heart is in my boots right now. Usually I’m upbeat, but the spectacle of Christians praying for “innocent” Palestinians in Gaza and neglecting the genuinely innocent hostages stolen from their homes is just beyond the pale. Worrying about Islam, while completely ignoring the real danger to Jews in our communities, right now.

Wanting “peace” at any price, so long as others pay for it.

It’s ignorance, and years of ABC indoctrination…they let the word “Israel” burble from their lips provided it’s ancient Israel, not the current one. They imagine hijabi tweekers on every train, but know nothing of phoned threats to Jewish schools Here, at home.

They see “democracy” in thousands of pro-Palistinians (Hamas) meeting in Hyde Park, but fail to realise it’s directly opposite the Great Synagogue. Will they see “democracy” when the daubed yellow stars start appearing on homes and businesses?

When will they wake up? This terrible need to see moral equivalence where there is none.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 22, 2023 11:46 am

While you never accuse Sky viewers of being representative, Albo’s 15 minutes of fame (for not being SloMo) are drawing to a close. Is the RAAF flight transferable?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 22, 2023 11:52 am
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 22, 2023 11:53 am

Funny seeing all these names who made names for themselves championing child protection only to sell out to various ALP governments/interests.

Didn’t Hetty keep quiet about Heiner for funding for her causes or something. Think there was a state MP similar too at the same time that did similar.

Then Tame. Well she is either against child sexual abuse or isn’t, can’t have it both ways or someone could say your commitment is equally for sale as the above named people.

I still don’t know what Morrison was thinking with Tame, she comes across as nasty and petulant. Personalities like that don’t come on overnight, her temperament would have been known well before that.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 22, 2023 12:00 pm

Hetty Johnstone??? Bravehearts???

Another grifting Labor shill, in the past she actually ran for the Labor party in an election. Never regarded her as authentic in any way.

  1. It still spins me out how close they fly together. Trust! — Blue Angels – Dancin on the Ceiling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpV0lMconCA

  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmhGYB4NdYc For the benefit of you young fellows, that’s how to use a handgun!

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