Open Thread – Weekend 28 Oct 2023


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Rabz
October 28, 2023 12:05 am

Anarchy

Megan
Megan
October 28, 2023 12:09 am

Peace.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 28, 2023 12:14 am

Well, that was fun- got a call from a mate calling in a favour, he was pissed down the pub and needed to be home for wife’s night out- so nipped out- talked me into pulling over to souvenir a YES23 sign- comes with star pickets. 1200mm, black paint, not my standard item but not to be sniffed at neither. Cmon let’s do the bypass, there’s dozens out there- pull straight out of the sand. Ended up driving a few k out the other side of town for good measure.
So, now I’ve got fifty star pickets. And half an acre of purple corflute.

caveman
caveman
October 28, 2023 12:14 am

🙂

Rabz
October 28, 2023 12:15 am
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 28, 2023 12:15 am

Megan
Oct 28, 2023 12:09 AM
Peace.

Oh don’t you f*cking start that Megs, Michael Bolton will be all over you like a rash

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 28, 2023 12:19 am

This channel gets no downticks. Amazing!

Community justice at play. Not fit for children.

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Steve Inman:

Weekly Top 5 Videos (10/27)

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 28, 2023 12:25 am

This is fit for children. His name is Cash!

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woof bark growl:

Cash 2.0 Great Dane on Olvera Street in downtown Los Angeles 4

Dot
Dot
October 28, 2023 12:32 am

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custard
Oct 27, 2023 10:45 PM
Hello

You’re a regular Rip Van Winkle

https://youtu.be/mHONNcZbwDY?feature=shared

Alamak!
October 28, 2023 1:36 am

end of week downtime song … may you never

Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 3:43 am
Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 4:10 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 28, 2023 6:03 am

That was intense!

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Composed by Thomas Bergersen.

Two Steps From Hell – Impossible Live @ WACKEN

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 28, 2023 6:19 am

Down ticker. Local radio for you.

Sheep in a paddock.

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 6:20 am
rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 6:22 am
Gabor
Gabor
October 28, 2023 6:24 am

Gaza must have the best health, education and childcare service in the world.

Anywhere Israel hits, it always finds a hospital or school.

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 6:24 am
rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 6:28 am
rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 6:29 am

Hamas boosters are all over x demanding Elon give them starlink.

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 6:31 am
rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 6:34 am

Of course, look at a map, there are no military installations in Gaza.

Louis Litt
October 28, 2023 6:40 am

Dover

That painting is magnificent

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 28, 2023 6:49 am

That is huge Wally!

Hope you got ole mate home before his bride.

calli
calli
October 28, 2023 6:59 am

It makes me wonder about all the fancy little market stall tents, tables and chairs and other paraphernalia used by the Yes spruikers and paid for by taxpayers and corporations (read shareholders).

I guess it’s a case of “I’ll have that now”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 28, 2023 7:19 am

Interesting times.

Ex-China Premier Li Keqiang, Sidelined by Rival Xi, Dies ‘Suddenly’ at 68 (27 Oct)

China Fires Missing Defense Minister, Leaving Key Military Position Empty (24 Oct)

When he visits Beijing Albo may be entering a touchy situation.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 28, 2023 7:30 am

Chef Andrew Gruel
@ChefGruel
No more modifications

https://x.com/ChefGruel/status/1717971836976120068?s=20

The American diner is an idiot.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 28, 2023 7:31 am

So of course this bloke’s history needs to be examined. Almost incomprehensible. Herald Sun:

A remorseless paramedic who pronounced a 70-year-old woman dead while her heart was still beating may have deprived her of a chance of survival, a tribunal has found.

Rick Clark was among four paramedics called to Lake Victoria in Maryborough in 2020 to treat an elderly woman who had collapsed on a bench.

She was conscious and responsive but started making “incomprehensible sounds”, and later died.

An internal Ambulance Victoria investigation into the woman’s death found Mr Clark was wrong to tell his colleagues to not resuscitate the woman after forming the view she was “flat-lining”.

According to documents filed at the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal, Mr Clark’s colleagues told him “it feels awful” to not attempt resuscitation, only for him to reply: “Look, I don’t think it’s really worth starting.”

Despite one of his colleagues saying “it does not feel right” to give up on the woman, investigators found Mr Clark told a clinician at Ambulance Victoria there was a “consensus” to not attempt resuscitation.

“ … the consensus was to call it because we’re not going to start CPR,” Mr Clark said.

Mr Clark then told a radio dispatcher to cancel other crews that had been called out to help.

“ … we’re not going to attempt this … so I think we can just cancel everyone else,” he said.

Mr Clarke said other reasons he did not try to resuscitate the woman included the woman being overweight and there being pird poo on the muddy ground nearby.

The Tribunal heard Mr Clark told investigators “if he were confronted with the same patient again, he would make the same decision”.

Lawyers for the Paramedicine Board of Australia — the professional regulator for paramedics — said Mr Clark had a “lack of insight and remorse” for his conduct.

They told the Tribunal Mr Clark withheld resuscitation “knowing that doing so would lead to (the woman’s) death, and in circumstances where he could have attempted resuscitation”.

Mr Clark’s lawyers, in a letter to the Tribunal, said the other paramedics on the scene that day were partly to blame for the tragedy.

“(Mr Clark) accepts that there is clear evidence to establish that aspects of the patient’s management should have been done differently,” the letter said.

They said he now “accepts his role in the outcome.”

Ambulance Victoria suspended Mr Clark’s employment after the woman’s death, and he handed in his paramedic registration in late 2020.

The Tribunal found Mr Clark “would still pose an unacceptable risk to the public if he sought to return as a paramedic”, and disqualified him from being registered as a paramedic for five years.

He is also banned from providing any health service — including providing first aid — to anyone, until 2028.

According to court documents, Clark now works in an unrelated field.

The Victorian Coroner did not hold an inquest into the woman’s death.

He wouldn’t want to perform first aid in any case by the sound.

bons
bons
October 28, 2023 7:41 am

That is pretty much the case Calli.

At our booth we were constantly heading off to Bunnings to buy gear at our own expense.

The Yessers had delivery van’s arrive to unload gear in its retail packageing for the schoolteacher Karens to use.

There would have been zero accounting. Noel’s backyard is now remarkably well equipped to host his regular chardonnay corroborees.

Cassie of Sydney
October 28, 2023 7:42 am

Good on them….

https://britishfriendsofisrael.org/

There are well known people speaking up for Israel and Jews.

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 7:43 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
October 28, 2023 7:46 am

Vikki Campion puts it on our useless public servants:

Canberra is the home of soiree virtue: It’s not what you do that matters, merely how you talk about it.

That’s why senior bureaucrats in charge of a $7m net zero unit can fly business class from their Melbourne home to their Canberra office every three weeks and not even worry about their emissions.

The boss of the Transport Department’s Net Zero Unit, Ian Porter, told senators he flew to Canberra one week in every three.

Not only has he never done a calculation of the carbon emissions of flying to Canberra every month, but he was working on establishing a full offset for flights across the whole of the public service with the Finance Department, which also had not yet set a standard.

The Net Zero Unit was budgeted $7.759m across four years to create a decarbonisation report, under the line item in the 2023-24 budget “reducing transport emissions measures”.

When the boss of the unit in place to reduce transport emissions had not even counted his own emissions for flying back and forth between Canberra and Melbourne — and his boss Jim Betts, the department secretary on about $1.6m a year, responded to a question with the words “nice try”, it was simply galling.

Here’s a taste of the transcript:

Senator Matt Canavan: “The Net Zero Unit is not yet net zero.”

Infrastructure Secretary Jim Betts: “You wouldn’t expect that. Nice try.”

Nice try?

Politicians go to an election to determine their fate and senior bureaucrats go to the exclusive Commonwealth Club. They are the government that never gets elected out and taxpayers foot the bill for that privilege.

For the rest of Australia living on planet prudence, working out their emissions on business class flights from Melbourne to Canberra would never be a problem because they would drive the seven hours instead.

If they did indulge in the spoils of a plane trip, it is with the tea and bickies at the back, not the G & T at the front.

Even if you calculated the carbon emissions at the top of the plane — where it is just four seats across compared to economy in six — the carbon emissions a square metre in economy are still less than business class, so live your virtue and move to the back.

Or better still, drive one of those electric vehicles you keep telling us about and that your department wants us to squeeze our families in at a cost of more than $70,000.

While Mr Betts may not have calculated the emissions, according to carbon calculator MyClimate, Canberra to Melbourne return in a business seat is 0.369 CO2 tonnes.

In an economy ticket, it is 0.287 tonnes and driving a compact electric vehicle the 1200km there and back would be about 0.162 tonnes of CO.

There it is.

You can answer with a smirk and an eye-roll Mr Betts but are you happy to collect your wage in your drive to force the rest of Australia to live a certain way.

At the same time, other parts of Australia can’t afford their power bill or their grocery shop.

People under a pitiless blue sky, in the drought that no one is talking about, are paying $2000 for a tank of water in cartage fees and graziers are getting paid as low as $2 for a sheep.

Pensioners don’t get change from a $20 note for a few lamb chops.

If the cost of living weren’t crushing so much of Australia, it would be simply annoying — but with people on more than $1m a year, it’s an example of the total disconnect between the pulpit and the parishioners.

Under scrutiny, the same department responsible for the transport transition revealed that in calculating its very important net-zero reports, they have not considered the entire life cycle of electric vehicles.

Just like the cost of electricity of a wind tower doesn’t include the transmission lines, or the now infamous Snowy Hydro 2.0, the cost of the electric vehicle only counts when it’s moving.

Even though they have 50 to 60 per cent higher emissions than an internal combustion engine during construction, the department, using selective economics, said: “Our analysis is on tailpipe emissions.”

When Senator Slade Brockman asked if they knew that one low-mileage EV being written off “could wipe out the carbon benefits for dozens, if not hundreds of cars”, they said they were aware of reports, but: “It has not been reported to us by our international peers.

“We have quite a close relationship with regulators in California, for example, who have not raised this issue with us.”

If the people in the home of flower power don’t think it’s a problem, why should we?

Senate estimates went on, with the Health Department admitting that it spent more than $3.5m on advertising half-price medicine, only to disclose that only some people would actually get it.
As if the plane ride wasn’t enough, the Infrastructure Department told the committee it spends $26,551.95 of taxpayers’ money on Welcome to Country each year.

The lure of other people’s money is too much to resist for unemployable idiots. And the bolded last line. Multiply that across every department, state federal and local. Money that could be going to where it’s needed.
Sack the lot of them.

Gabor
Gabor
October 28, 2023 7:46 am

Black Ball
Oct 28, 2023 7:31 AM

So of course this bloke’s history needs to be examined. Almost incomprehensible. Herald Sun:

Makes you think about your fellow human beings.
How on earth can a callous uncaring ambo survive so long in an organization dedicated to the opposite?

Pogria
Pogria
October 28, 2023 7:50 am

New Yorkers aren’t putting up with beardos ripping down posters of Israeli hostages.

I’m dyin’ to put you in the f**kin’ Hospital.

Bravo.

Cassie of Sydney
October 28, 2023 7:57 am

I’m dyin’ to put you in the f**kin’ Hospital.

Nice, thank you Pogria.

bons
bons
October 28, 2023 7:58 am

It is a magnificant painting. Impressionist rural scenes have always been my favourite.

It is a bit of a jerk for me as well. At our zoom yesterday the folks up on the Gregory told us that if the forecast for no rain until mid-January is correct, we will be mowing the sorghum for fodder soon.

The gamble of winter planting didn’t work out. Probably lulled into over confidence by three benign two crop seasons.

Without January rain we won’t be seeding the new crop either.

That s farmin.

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 8:00 am

If they did indulge in the spoils of a plane trip, it is with the tea and bickies at the back, not the G & T at the front.

There’s no tea and bickies let alone g&t on a Melbourne to Canberra flight, maybe Qantas does but I doubt it.
47 minute flight time, there are no hot drinks served at all on Virgin or Jetstar.
The only freebie is a glass of water in economy.
The only people who would fly business on that trip would be people who aren’t paying, public servants and politicians, it’s a joke.
As for driving, it’s usually cheaper to fly if you are travelling solo, I’ve done the maths on fuel costs.
The cheapest return I’ve managed is $118 on Jetstar.
(I’m flying Rex in a couple of weeks for the first time, after getting a grommet in my right ear next week, flying home from Canberra last couple of times has been a little hell of ear pain and nausea.)

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 8:02 am

Not to mention, for employees driving would be on work time, who’s going to pay a fat cat a full day’s salary to drive to Canberra?

calli
calli
October 28, 2023 8:02 am

Yes, bons. Our No guy up here just had his old picnic chair and card table.

The Yess-ers had a brand new, sizeable tent, tables and chairs. Fortunately it wasn’t a hot day.

The booth returned a resounding “No”. Sometimes bigger and slicker isn’t better.

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 8:05 am

The welcome to country scam needs to end.

Cassie of Sydney
October 28, 2023 8:07 am

The Yessers had delivery van’s arrive to unload gear in its retail packageing for the schoolteacher Karens to use.”

It was the same here in Wentworth.

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 8:07 am

Faborigines need to start getting proper jobs, not these earmarked sinecure for insiders.

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 8:09 am

I guess the computer(share) said no.

bons
bons
October 28, 2023 8:10 am

The welcome to country scam needs to end.

For reasons of cost and insult.

Aussies need to stop being so polite.

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 8:14 am

This tweet? has the same conversation I linked earlier, I’m not logged in to x, which incidentally is an annoying choice by Elon, is it a xeet now? so can’t link more details about incredibly surprising news that hamas steals humanitarian aid.

Breaking: The
@IDF
has released visual and audio materials which prove Hamas has stolen and is using humanitarian resources for its terrorist activities.

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 8:16 am
Tom
Tom
October 28, 2023 8:17 am

How on earth can a callous uncaring ambo survive so long in an organization dedicated to the opposite?

How do firebugs end up working for the fire brigade?

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 8:19 am

Hamas should have thought more about who supplies it with water, electricity and fuel before invading and massacring civilians.
Oh they did but went ahead anyhow?
Hamas hates humanity.

P
P
October 28, 2023 8:24 am

The west’s monster within
Melanie Phillips – Oct 27, 2023

Liberal society contains the seeds of its own destruction

shatterzzz
October 28, 2023 8:29 am

The welcome to country scam needs to end.

Yep! .. I missed the 1st goal (40secs) in the Brizzie – Sydney fitba match last night cos I never switch the TV on until a minute after, scheduled, start time (any sport) to avoid that bloody ‘welcome” rubbish …………

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 28, 2023 8:35 am

Liberal society contains the seeds of its own destruction

“Look, you are reading into propaganda.” sez the girl who’s reading into propaganda.

Pogria
Pogria
October 28, 2023 8:35 am

How on earth can a callous uncaring ambo survive so long in an organization dedicated to the opposite?

In the eighties I met a middle-aged Ambo who would take photos of all the crashes he’d attended. The more gruesome, the better. He used to show the photos to people. He couldn’t understand why he couldn’t make friends.
He’d migrated here from Hungary after the war. Perhaps that is why the fascination with broken and bloodied bodies.

mem
mem
October 28, 2023 8:36 am

The Yess-ers had a brand new, sizeable tent, tables and chairs.

Multiply that by the thousands of voting centres throughout Australia and that’s a lot of tents, tables and chairs for the Yes movement. what has happened to these items? Have they been donated to the Yes volunteers who are 99% Labor people?

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
October 28, 2023 8:38 am

The US has moved TWO Carrier Battle Groups into the Mediterranean and TWO more have just left the West Coast, destination unknown.
(I’ll take a wild guess and say the Persian Gulf is favourite.)

Whilst Professor Biden was entertaining our own intellectually challenged PM the other night, (must have been scintillating conversation), he announced:
“This build up has NOTHING to do with Israel”. I see.

The Secretary for the Military Industrial Complex, Lloyd Austin III, announced yesterday that the US had launched strikes against targets in Syria, ……., in self defence of course.
The NeoCons have been trying for decades, to accomplish regime change in Syria and the destruction of Iran. You will recall that the transvestite paedophile O’Bummer, funded the “Moderate rebels” in Syria, in order to achieve the removal of Assad.
Now, who were these moderate rebels?
Well, that group was Isis, Al Qaeda and ……… Hamas.
You may have heard of them.
I’m sure, they were very happy with the funding from the US.

Just as the mullahs were, when the transvestite paedophile landed TWO C-130’s in Tehran, loaded to the gunnels, with US $100 bills.

Still, every country has the right to defend itself and since Syria lies just off the East coast of the US, they have every right to attack it, in “self defence”.
I must have missed the request from Syria, to the US, to place troops in their country.
I know that they DID invite Russia in though.
When President, what did Trump say about US troops in Syria?
Oh yes, I remember now, ……, “they are there to take Syria’s oil”.
Hmmmm.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 28, 2023 8:46 am
Bruce
Bruce
October 28, 2023 8:47 am

Net-Zero committee comutersd? Flying?

Quelle sur-f$#king Surprise!

On yer bikes, hypocrites.

Wooden bikes hand-carved using flint tools. NO steel, rubber, plastic Aluminium or Titanium for you.

Indolent
Indolent
October 28, 2023 8:48 am
flyingduk
flyingduk
October 28, 2023 8:49 am

How on earth can a callous uncaring ambo survive so long in an organization dedicated to the opposite?

Working at the coal face, spending decades attempting to fix self inflicted problems day after day does tend to lower the water level in the care bucket somewhat. This is particularly true for morbidly obese customers, who are just plain manual handling risks. Everything about them is more difficult, IV access, lifting, airways, everything. When i started in the job, less than 10% of the community was overweight, now its more like 50%, and i’m not talking a few kg, I am talking 160 – 250kg, special stretchers, pneumatic lifting jacks, etc etc etc.

I used to counsel all my paramedic students that the day would come where they grew tired of it and they needed to have a ‘life after’ plan, however much they loved the job at the start.

Pogria
Pogria
October 28, 2023 8:51 am

As Ace states;
Right right right right right. When the trustees started making noises about your remarks being reprehensible — and therefore fireable — suddenly you saw the light, right, hero?

The story,
“The Cornell professor who called the Hamas terror attack on Israel “exhilarating” and “energizing” is now on a leave of absence until at least the end of the semester.
Russell Rickford, an associate professor of history, went viral for the incendiary remarks to students during a pro-Palestinian protest soon after the Oct. 7 surprise attack on Israel killed 1,400 people, mostly civilians.

“It was exhilarating. It was exhilarating, it was energizing,” he was seen telling the crowd, claiming “you would not be human” not to feel the same.

“I was exhilarated!” he said to a smattering of applause.

After initially standing by his statements, the embattled professor later apologized “for the horrible choice of words,” admitting they were “reprehensible” — before his students were told he would no longer teach this semester.

“Professor Russell Rickford has requested and received approval to take a leave of absence from the university,” the Ivy League school confirmed to the campus newspaper, the Cornell Review.

His students first became aware Friday in an email from Professor Tamika Nunley saying she would be taking over his course on post-Civil War African American history.

“Professor Rickford will be taking a leave of absence and I will assume teaching responsibilities for this course for the remainder of the semester,” she wrote the students in an email obtained by the Review.

A petition demanding Rickford’s termination has gained almost 11,000 signatures on Change.org, the outlet reported, noting that among those who called for his resignation are US Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) and US Rep. Claudia Tenney (R-NY).

In an Oct. 17 statement signed by Cornell president Martha Pollack and board of trustees chairman Kraig Kayser, the school condemned Rickford’s remarks.

“We learned yesterday of comments that Professor Russell Rickford made over the weekend at an off-campus rally where he described the Hamas terrorist attacks as ‘exhilarating,’” Pollack and Kayser wrote.

“This is a reprehensible comment that demonstrates no regard whatsoever for humanity,” they continued. “The university is taking this incident seriously and is currently reviewing it consistent with our procedures.”

In his recent apology, Rickford said in a statement: “I apologize for the horrible choice of words that I used in a portion of a speech that was intended to stress grassroots African American, Jewish and Palestinian traditions of resistance to oppression.

“I recognize that some of the language I used was reprehensible and did not reflect my values,” he added.”

HAHAHA, Turd. Don’t send your kids to UNI.

Cassie of Sydney
October 28, 2023 8:51 am

I think the invasion has started.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 28, 2023 8:53 am

If the Tablet Magazine columns are true and the US knew that Iran was planning a range of attacks for months, why:
1) didn’t they warn Israel;
2) did they proceed with the unfreezing of Iran funds;
3) wasn’t a DMZ style agreement force fed in Ukraine to take that shit show off the table.

The more you read, the more it’s clear that US foreign policy is incoherent.
At least there are no mean tweets.

Indolent
Indolent
October 28, 2023 8:53 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
October 28, 2023 8:55 am

Via Ace Of Spades, tweet of note one

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 28, 2023 8:56 am
Cassie of Sydney
October 28, 2023 8:57 am

“1) didn’t they warn Israel;”

Melanie Phillips spoke about this a day or two ago…..there are rumours that there’s an Iranian cabal in the state department. I’m not into conspiracies but such talk does not surprise me at all.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 28, 2023 8:57 am

Rabz, from Ye Olde Fredde

I am a capitalist

No more korporate kronies

Korporate kronies are inevitable with capitalism.

Change “I am a capitalist” to “I support free enterprise”.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
October 28, 2023 8:59 am

A few days after the marauding and slaughters of October 7th the UN released a report that promotes murder of Jews.
https://jcpa.org/article/pillays-pogrom-the-un-tells-palestinian-terrorists-we-have-your-back/

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 8:59 am

Canberra is the home of soiree virtue: It’s not what you do that matters, merely how you talk about it.

That’s why senior bureaucrats in charge of a $7m net zero unit can fly business class from their Melbourne home to their Canberra office every three weeks and not even worry about their emissions.

I would imagine this lot has something to do with imposing carbon emissions audits – and presumably penalties for exceeding targets – on companies in regard to their employees travel to and from work and business trips.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 28, 2023 8:59 am

On yer bikes, hypocrites.

Wooden bikes hand-carved using flint tools. NO steel, rubber, plastic Aluminium or Titanium for you.

And move to Cuba.

Eco-friendly bamboo bicycles hit the streets in Cuba (4 Aug)

I’m sure they’d fit right in.

Indolent
Indolent
October 28, 2023 9:00 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
October 28, 2023 9:01 am

“I recognize that some of the language I used was reprehensible and did not reflect my values,” he added.”

Yes it was reprehensible and yes it did reflect your values.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 28, 2023 9:02 am

This is particularly true for morbidly obese customers, who are just plain manual handling risks

Without referencing the 70 year old woman who died in this incident, I think there needs to be a level of honesty when it comes to the morbidly obese.
The reality is, how much effort should go into a non-responsive person who is morbidly obese to resuscitate them?
I don’t know the answer.

Attempt CPR. Yes.
Get the paddles. Yes.
The reality is, there is only so much you can do.

shatterzzz
October 28, 2023 9:02 am

Getting very disgusted by this new favourite term of the media .. ” Gaza ministry of … ” when repeating the “official” rubbish coming out of Gaza .. there are NO “ministries of anything” in Gaza! .. PERIOD! ..
Just HAMAS scum who masquerade as ministers reading the, daily, script to gullible & fawning media outlets whilst on tea breaks from their full time terrrorist jerbs …….

Indolent
Indolent
October 28, 2023 9:03 am

This is not the Bee

Anthony Fauci to be awarded with prestigious ‘Ethics Prize’ for ‘saving millions of lives’

He’s right up there with Hitler and Mao as a mass murderer. And I’m not just talking about Covid. His actions over decades have caused untold harm.

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 9:04 am

Melanie Phillips spoke about this a day or two ago…..there are rumours that there’s an Iranian cabal in the state department.

It’s more than a rumour.

JC
JC
October 28, 2023 9:04 am

Hamas Leader Appointed Senior Fellow At Harvard University buff.ly/3QJDOuR

The bee

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 9:05 am

If your ‘care bucket’ is empty get another job.
About half of the ambulance officers I had dealings for three local requests a couple of weeks ago were females, they couldn’t pick up a 50kg patient let along a 150kg one.

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 9:06 am

Getting very disgusted by this new favourite term of the media .. ” Gaza ministry of … ” when repeating the “official” rubbish coming out of Gaza

If not that it’s “authorities say…”, most often when referring to alleged civilian deaths.

shatterzzz
October 28, 2023 9:08 am

Wooden bikes hand-carved using flint tools. NO steel, rubber, plastic Aluminium or Titanium for you.

Not quite …! rubber tyres with inflated tubes .. I had to check cos (as a bike rider) I imagined the sheer agony of cycling on “wooden” wheels …..
Bit like Turtle & dugong hunting in “innies” with outboards .. it’s a “cultural” thing adopting a few modern day comforts and hoping no one notices .. LOL!

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 28, 2023 9:11 am

The lure of other people’s money is too much to resist for unemployable idiots. And the bolded last line. Multiply that across every department, state federal and local. Money that could be going to where it’s needed.
Sack the lot of them.

As I suggested in an earlier thread, disestablish 10% of jobs, refuse to establish any nett new jobs (a “nett zero” policy), force deletion of an old job to establish a new job.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
October 28, 2023 9:11 am

Tom
Oct 28, 2023 8:17 AM
How on earth can a callous uncaring ambo survive so long in an organization dedicated to the opposite?

How do firebugs end up working for the fire brigade?

Usually vollies where there is little to no screening of applicants.

Indolent
Indolent
October 28, 2023 9:12 am

How, exactly, does and “employer” know what you eat? Sounds more like a “master” to me.

Germany: Employer Now Docking Wages Of Employees Who Eat Meat, Drive Autos!

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 28, 2023 9:12 am

Gabor
Oct 28, 2023 7:46 AM

Black Ball
Oct 28, 2023 7:31 AM

So of course this bloke’s history needs to be examined. Almost incomprehensible. Herald Sun:

Makes you think about your fellow human beings.
How on earth can a callous uncaring ambo survive so long in an organization dedicated to the opposite?

Union delegate who “Stands with Dan”?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 28, 2023 9:15 am

Assisted suicide made up 4% of all deaths in Canada in 2022

Seems that they want to get rid of all those pesky drug addicts.

Canada Seeks to Legalize Medically Assisted Death for People Addicted to Drugs (23 Oct)

Easier to kill them than cure them. Amazing how Canada went from quite a nice country in 2020 to a full on fascist one in 2023.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 28, 2023 9:18 am

‘Well, well, well, if it isn’t the original lesbian nana herself’: Mother of girl arrested for saying officer looked like her gay grandmother says SAME cop is in new viral video spraying crowd with pepper spray in Leeds ‘altercation’

This is where modern policing is at now – oppress ordinary citizens (because its easy) and soft hand the real noisemakers (who might pushback against all these nanny female PCs).

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/10/uk-is-lost-islamists-can-violently-call-for-murder-but-police-pounce-on-this-silent-praying-woman.html

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 28, 2023 9:19 am

Assisted suicide made up 4% of all deaths in Canada in 2022

Seems that they want to get rid of all those pesky drug addicts.

Very much a repeat of Aktion T4, and like the Bohemian Corporal seems to be quite proud of it.
https://youtu.be/eYLlpviqulQ?feature=shared

shatterzzz
October 28, 2023 9:20 am

I think the invasion has started.

Going of the attempts by the media to avoid using the term “invasion” I’d agree .. !
heavy incursions, highlighted night time activity and more pockets of military buil-up plus a few few other lurid, invasion avoided, descriptors as the media struggles to play down reporting there attempts at villifying Israel as the “bad guys” may not be having the desired effect they’d hoped for …….

Jock
Jock
October 28, 2023 9:20 am

Up here on the mnc the yes prepoll helpers at the place I was at were teachers, retired teachers and university lecturers. They were well funded but clueless beyond the sanctimony. A number of clearly aboriginal people told us they had voted no. This caused some angst with the teacher Karen’s.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 28, 2023 9:21 am

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 28, 2023 8:57 AM
“1) didn’t they warn Israel;”

Melanie Phillips spoke about this a day or two ago…..there are rumours that there’s an Iranian cabal in the state department. I’m not into conspiracies but such talk does not surprise me at all.

Back in the 1980s, there were suggestions of a “Belgrade mafia” in DFAT.

Cassie of Sydney
October 28, 2023 9:21 am

The ground invasion has begun. I tells me the Jewish men, women and children are dead, and most have been dead for weeks.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 28, 2023 9:24 am

Duk I think its more than a “life after plan”. So many I’ve meet don’t have an interest outside of work. Watching football on tv doesn’t hack it. So many of them died not long after retirement. I can only remember being bored, which lasted all of 20 minutes in the last 55 years. I’ve never had enough hours in the day to do what I want to get done. Getting my wife to slow down has been difficult, a high pressure job, not the work, the people and only when my daughter arranged consulting interviews did she realise she could work less for more money. Now she working even less and trying for a 3 day week. Its not as if we need the money, its more of a state of mind. I told her when she changed employment that they won’t care and just muddle along and blame you for everything that is wrong. She’s been asked to come back. No way.

Cassie of Sydney
October 28, 2023 9:24 am

Israel didn’t want this war, but the deliberate murder of over 1400 Jews must be avenged and justice will prevail.

I went to synagogue last night, a very orthodox one, and being Shabbat we’re commanded to enjoy the holy day, however everyone has a heavy heart, few are smiling. You see, we Jews don’t celebrate death, we Jews celebrate life. Our enemies are the opposite of us.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 28, 2023 9:25 am

Roger
Oct 28, 2023 8:59 AM
Canberra is the home of soiree virtue: It’s not what you do that matters, merely how you talk about it.

That’s why senior bureaucrats in charge of a $7m net zero unit can fly business class from their Melbourne home to their Canberra office every three weeks and not even worry about their emissions.

I would imagine this lot has something to do with imposing carbon emissions audits – and presumably penalties for exceeding targets – on companies in regard to their employees travel to and from work and business trips.

Fortunately, the public circus is not a “company”, so the rules will not apply there. //sarc

Vicki
Vicki
October 28, 2023 9:30 am

You see, we Jews don’t celebrate death, we Jews celebrate life. Our enemies are the opposite of us.

And we are one, Cassie. We feel your pain, and that of all Israelis and global Jews. As I have continually said, the atrocities of 7 October and the vicious response of Israel’s enemies around the world are beyond understanding.

Cassie – you might like to view Australian Spectator, which has a powerful article by Brendan O’Neill about the shocking response of many to the Israeli ordeal.

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 9:31 am

If Israel have been able to listen to so many phone calls, they probably have a very good idea how many hostages are alive.
I think those taken by ‘civilians’ were murdered pretty quickly.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 28, 2023 9:32 am

I think the invasion has started.

Some reports that amphibious assault by commandos covered by Naval Gunfire in the south. They have a motorised brigade on the SW border as well, could be another raid or paving the way for a cut off force.

The main force looks to have broken in to the north with tank support with air & artillery support as well.

Interesting Hezbollah and other groups have just made threats. No attack yet and the Israelis aren’t provoking them yet. Apparently people on the streets of the west bank.

Only western news outlet reporting US State Dept believe the ground campaign has started atm is CBS.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 28, 2023 9:32 am

I think the invasion has started.

Not much to see apart from Pallywood taking a smoke break.

MatrixTransform
October 28, 2023 9:34 am

Liberal society contains the seeds of its own destruction

for about 2 generations now the post-modern, post-structural, post-colonial post-everything have been at war with the “liberal”
and it appears that finally the whole world is now starting waking up to the idea that western thought has been dragged into a post-liberal world at best, or post-civilization one at worst

this is what happens when you fill the heads of kiddies with relativist and godless gibber
you create hordes of utter nihilists who don’t even know why they think what they think

a guy I know who is a journalist gave a speech at his 50th and was skiting about how everything these days is “post-truth”
and that was a hat-tip of sorts to his rad-fem wife and her coterie that have infested legal thought in Melbourne
movers and shakers all of them
thought it was a fine joke

to these people, normies are are considered to little more than “agonistic others” (and I quote form somebody’s Master’s thesis that I edited)
a means to end
a way obtaining that ephemeral thing they call “progress”

I call it “anywhere but here” or “the road to nowhere”

maybe I was wrong … cos it sure looks like we are nearly there

Chris
Chris
October 28, 2023 9:37 am

Morning all.

So, now I’ve got fifty star pickets. And half an acre of purple corflute

Perfect target backers for a demo of claymore effectiveness.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 28, 2023 9:39 am

The welcome to country scam needs to end.

Didn’t Marcia Langton promise that “Welcome to Country” was finished, if the referendum was defeated?

MatrixTransform
October 28, 2023 9:41 am

Pogria
Oct 28, 2023 8:51 AM

snap!

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 9:43 am

Be interesting to know which gaza hospital in that live feed, I’m guessing not Shifa.

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 9:48 am

Didn’t Marcia Langton promise that “Welcome to Country” was finished, if the referendum was defeated?

Seems the self-appointed Queen of Aboriginaldom doesn’t command as much loyalty as she imagined.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 28, 2023 9:49 am

The message Australians sent is clear: we won’t be divided by race
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12:00AM October 28, 2023
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As they do, political experts, campaigners, party officials, commentators and the like will be analysing the referendum results for months to come.

They’ll pore over every detail looking for trends. They’ll send out surveys, online polls and hold focus groups to understand how the voice failed.

But I think the reason it failed is obvious.

On October 14, Australians sent a clear and unmistakeable message: we won’t be divided by race.

It’s a lesson the Yes campaigners and so-called Indigenous leaders have yet to learn. Despite a six-state and 60 per cent majority result, they continue to push guilt and grievance politics, playing the victim and doing everything they can to twist this result into an attack on Indigenous Australians.

In a cowardly, anonymous open letter to parliamentarians, they have tried to make this referendum result about rejection.

“Rejection of constitutional recognition will not deter us from speaking up to governments, parliaments and to the Australian people.”

This letter is a pathetic, cynical attempt to keep race in the national conversation and to keep Australians divided. They know that this wasn’t simply about recognition, and no one was trying to silence the voices of Indigenous people.

But their letter highlights a failure of understanding, the same failure of understanding that plagued the Yes campaign for the past six months.

October 14 was not a rejection of recognition, it was not a rejection of reconciliation and it was not a rejection of the significance of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander culture in our nation’s history.

The referendum was not a rejection of anyone’s right to be heard.

This referendum was not a rejection at all.

It was an affirmation of every Australian’s equal right to be heard, of every Australian’s equal right to have a say – of every Australian’s equal right to a voice.

This is something the voice advocates never understood, and from the beginning the road to the referendum was one of exclusivity.

The Referendum Council’s final report – the report Anthony Albanese failed to read – describes how delegates were chosen for the initial Uluru Dialogues. It was a process of selection and invitation, where local host organisations invited 100 delegates to one of 13 First Nations Regional Dialogues.

“Delegates were selected according to the following split: 60 per cent of places for First Nations/traditional owner groups, 20 per cent for community organisations and 20 per cent for key individuals.”

It was from this pool that the 250 signatories to the Uluru statement came.

The referendum clearly showed that the 250 signatories do not represent the views of all Indigenous Australians. What should be even clearer to anyone is that it has always been paternalistic and wrong for anyone to claim they have the ability or the authority to speak on behalf of all Australians of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander descent.

But that hasn’t stopped them from claiming they do.

In their open letter they write: “Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are in shock and are grieving the result. We feel acutely the repudiation of our peoples and the rejection of our efforts to pursue reconciliation in good faith.”

Far from a message of unity, this letter is a clear example of the division and disharmony the voice would have delivered and is a continuation of the lies peddled by the Yes campaign across the past 12 months.

Not all Indigenous Australians are “in shock and grieving” because a constitutionally enshrined body that gave an extra say to just one group of people based on nothing more than racial heritage was democratically voted down.

We do not all feel “acutely the repudiation of our peoples” because many of us – about 40 per cent according to polling the week before the vote – voted No ourselves.

The letter goes on: “That people who came to our country in only the last 235 years would reject the recognition of this continent’s First Peoples – on our sacred land which we have cared for and nurtured for more than 65,000 years – is so appalling and mean-spirited as to be utterly unbelievable a week following. It will remain unbelievable and appalling for decades to come.”

The “us and them” language continues; the division instigated by the Prime Minister last year continues.

The results on October 14 signal that Australians want our country to turn a corner, to leave all of that behind and unite as one Australia.

There can be no denying that the prevalence of race has increased in our national discourse. No one can deny the increase is heated rhetoric, name-calling and unfounded accusations of racism. The authors of this letter go so far as to claim there is “racism imbued in the Australian Constitution”.

If we want to move forward, we must acknowledge that the people who need our help most in this country are not all Indigenous Australians, just as not all Indigenous Australians are in need of our help.

There are, of course, some Indigenous Australians who genuinely need our help, but our focus must be on need, not race.

In the areas where some Indigenous communities need help, our solutions need to be targeted in a way that reflects that.

That’s why my colleagues and I have called for a thorough audit of the structures that exist, to see where problems exist, to see what is working and what isn’t, and take action to implement real change where it’s needed.

It’s why the Coalition is calling for a royal commission into Indigenous child sexual abuse, so we can provide a targeted solution.

This year – this campaign – has been the most divisive period in recent Australian history. Now, we must put it behind us.

We need to come together to focus on need, to look for those who need help – no matter their background – and work together to help them.

Because whether they are of Indigenous heritage or otherwise, whether they were born here or are a new citizen, this country belongs to all Australians.

And our government needs to work for all Australians.

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 9:53 am

Go woke…

NatWest has issued a profit warning, sending it shares tumbling by 18% yesterday.

The news came as the UK’s Financial Conduct Authority announced an investigation into the group’s debanking of Nigel Farage.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 28, 2023 9:56 am

Oof, Jacinta shouldn’t have signed off with that cliche.
If she’d said something sensible like, “And our government is not a Mother and Father, not King, and not God”, I’d be talking PM material.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 28, 2023 9:56 am

A number of clearly aboriginal people told us they had voted no. This caused some angst with the teacher Karen’s.

How very dare black fellas think for themselves! A travesty!
I said at the very start that the vote for Teh Voice among the Aboriginal population would be low. Would be interested in the final breakdown in this cohort.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 28, 2023 10:01 am

Didn’t Marcia Langton promise that “Welcome to Country” was finished, if the referendum was defeated?

It would seem Marcia has the conceited view of her prestige that movie stars do.

When she made that promise she will have thought it would send an icy chill into the hearts of Australians.

No idea that we are sick of the damn things – a ceremony with telling us we have their permission to be there by a person who claims all sorts of mystical connections and senses but who in absolutely no way exhibits anything at all remarkable. It looks like humbug because…

Marcia never meant it any more than Hollywood stars threatening to leave the US every time a Republican is on the ticket for the Presidential election.

Marcia will, if challenged, likely explain she now realises in light of the referendum results that what Australia needs more than ever is shed loads more welcoming to country.

Rabz
October 28, 2023 10:06 am

Cassie of Sydney Oct 28, 2023 7:42 AM

The two pieces of excrement that down thumbed that comment are NAZIS.

You stupid disgusting cowards. You both deserve to die of indescribably painful arse cancer.

Or failing that, you have your thick empty heads slowly sawn off by moozley terrorists.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 28, 2023 10:07 am

The news came as the UK’s Financial Conduct Authority announced an investigation into the group’s debanking of Nigel Farage.

A new whitewash?

Watchdog Finds Farage Debanking Saga Did Break Law, But Takes No Further Action (26 Oct)

Furthermore it turns out they debanked him because he is a climate realist.

Former EU Parliament Member Nigel Farage got de-banked due to his skeptical ‘stance on climate change…not aligning with’ NatWest bank’s ‘objectives’ (24 Oct)

Just shows you what the elite stratum is like these days. Pushing lies and debanking those telling the truth. Same goes for the Canadian truckers. And here after all those banks gave money to Yes campaigns in the face of 60% or Australians dissenting. I wonder if they’ll debank Jacinta Price?

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 10:11 am

A new whitewash?

That they’re undertaking it at all will only result in more public scrutiny and pain for the bank.

It’s 39% owned by the British public after a GFC bailout, btw.

Rabz
October 28, 2023 10:11 am

Haha – that got a rise out you didn’t it, adolf?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 28, 2023 10:12 am

Is the welcome to country not just a benign, rather beige, ceremony but rather a pointed reminder to non-Indigenous Australians this is not their country? When the ABC tells us its broadcasts come from Gadigal land rather than Pyrmont, or when Qantas welcomes us to Naarm instead of Melbourne, is this because we are illegitimate occupiers of someone else’s land?

Janet Albrechtsen, in the Oz.

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 10:15 am

When the ABC tells us its broadcasts come from Gadigal land rather than Pyrmont, or when Qantas welcomes us to Naarm instead of Melbourne, is this because we are illegitimate occupiers of someone else’s land?

In the words of Bill Maher, ‘Hand it back or shut up.’

Razey
Razey
October 28, 2023 10:20 am

Jenin AL Qassam Statement: “Gaza is being destroyed and the whole world is silent and watching”

My response to this is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YahDLTODDg

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 28, 2023 10:21 am

It forces us to look closely, too, at how this divisive political activism is egged on at the highest levels by judges such as ACT Chief Justice Lucy McCallum, who uses her courtroom to channel Lidia Thorpe by acknowledging that sovereignty has never been ceded. Is McCallum providing fodder for activists to compile some kind of legal brief, where they can point to some judges who use their pulpit to advance Indigenous sovereignty?

More, from Janet Albrechtsen.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 28, 2023 10:26 am

I do wonder about the Papunya-dot stickers on the front door of every bank branch, doing the acknowledgement of Country schtick.
Are they running a sleeper campaign that the certificates of title, by which they have a lien on so many people’s whole lives’ work, are actually illegitimate?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 28, 2023 10:26 am

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 28, 2023 9:24 AM

Israel didn’t want this war, but the deliberate murder of over 1400 Jews must be avenged and justice will prevail.

I went to synagogue last night, a very orthodox one, and being Shabbat we’re commanded to enjoy the holy day, however everyone has a heavy heart, few are smiling. You see, we Jews don’t celebrate death, we Jews celebrate life. Our enemies are the opposite of us.

Cassie,

I don’t know how anyone in The Australian Labor Party, Greens, TEALS, Clover Moore, Mike Burgess can support the Plaestinians who in turn voted in and support Hamas after watching this video

Israel’s Ambassador to the United Nations Gilad Erdan on Thursday played a video of a Hamas terrorist trying to decapitate a Thai worker with a garden hoe during the October 7 onslaught in southern Israel

The Thai Man was not a Jew, he was not an Israelis, he was just a Thai Worker in Israel trying to earn money for his Family back in Thailand, like so many Thai’s abroad do

Summed up in Post by

Ambassador Gilad Erdan ???? ????

@giladerdan1

This is not Auschwitz – it’s Hamas! We are not fighting against humans – we are fighting monsters! Israel will not stop until Hamas is destroyed!

This is what I said at the General Assembly podium when I showed footage of Israeli civilians burnt alive by Hamas and of Hamas savages beheading an wounded Thai civilian.

His crime? Being alive in Israel.

This is the true face of Hamas??

Watch and retweet >>

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 28, 2023 10:27 am

Antisemitic robots now:

Google’s Chatbot Refuses To Talk About Israel (OAN, 27 Oct)

Pro-Hamas, anti-Israel propaganda is spreading like wildfire online, and it’s getting some help from “big tech.” Dan Schneider, the head of Free Speech America at the Media Research Center, joins One America’s Stella Escobedo to expose how Google’s Chatbot “Bard” is refusing to acknowledge Israel altogether.

Not accidental I expect.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 28, 2023 10:32 am

MatrixTransform
Oct 28, 2023 9:34 AM

Liberal society contains the seeds of its own destruction

for about 2 generations now the post-modern, post-structural, post-colonial post-everything have been at war with the “liberal”

and it appears that finally the whole world is now starting waking up to the idea that western thought has been dragged into a post-liberal world at best, or post-civilization one at worst

this is what happens when you fill the heads of kiddies with relativist and godless gibber

you create hordes of utter nihilists who don’t even know why they think what they think

MatrixTransform – Your Thoughts are answered!

What irony! The deranged defence of Hamas on campuses across the West is fuelling a counter-revolution that could finally loosen the stranglehold of wokeism

By NIALL FERGUSON

Has wokeism jumped the shark? In other words, have the radical Leftists who for years have exercised increasing power in our universities finally gone too far?

I dare to hope so. The recent disgraceful responses to the attacks on Israel that we have seen — from American university campuses to the streets of London and Sydney — have dramatically increased awareness that something is rotten in the state of higher education in the English-speaking world.

Some of us have been battling against the ideological takeover of academia for close to a decade. Each year, we have been getting better organised. But we have struggled to convince people in the real world just how bad things are.

The past three weeks may finally have changed that.

The expression ‘jump the shark’ was coined in 1977 when the scriptwriters of long-running comedy series Happy Days — into their fifth series and getting short of ideas — tried to pep up the storyline by having the main character, Fonzie, preposterously jump over a shark while on water-skis.

The campus Left’s response to the attacks of October 7 was equally far-fetched and over-the-top — but immeasurably more offensive.

Let’s remind ourselves what happened three weeks ago. Two Gaza-based terrorist groups inspired by Islamist ideology, committed to the destruction of the state of Israel and backed by at least one government, staged a trailer for a second Holocaust. In their savagery, they exceeded even the horrors perpetrated by the Russian butchers of Bucha in Ukraine.

More than 1,400 Israelis were killed, including children and even babies. More than 200 were kidnapped.

The idea Israel should do nothing in response to this outrage — other than ensure the flow of aid into Gaza — defies both human emotion and strategic sense. Only those wearing ideological blindfolds cannot see that.

Yet this seems to be the approach of some academics and student groups in a great many universities, not least in Britain.

Dr Kate Davison, a self-described ‘queer historian of sexuality, psy-sciences & Cold War’, who is also a lecturer in history at Edinburgh, not only tweeted that ‘Palestine & trans human rights are the litmus test and most of you are failing half of it’, but also expressed support for a statement by faculty members at Berzeit University — an institution in the West Bank — which celebrated the Hamas attacks as ‘guerilla war tactics’ by ‘resistance fighters’.

Dr Sarah Liu, a senior lecturer in gender and politics, also at Edinburgh, liked a tweet on October 7 that asked: ‘Did some people just think Palestine had to like file paperwork or something to be freed [?] this is what oppressed fighting the oppressor looks like.’

Edinburgh is by no means exceptional. ‘Special message to some of the ‘decolonisers’ in academia, young and old,’ tweeted Priyamvada Gopal, professor of postcolonial studies at Cambridge. ‘It isn’t just about returning bronzes. That’s the easy bit.’

Londoners bracing themselves for another pro-Palestinian demonstration today may be interested to know that six of the patrons of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, organisers of the demo, are academics based at Bradford, Exeter, London, Oxford and Surrey.

None of this should come as surprise, for it is the culmination of many years of infiltration of our universities by the radical Leftist ideology known as ‘wokeism’.

But it is only now people outside academia are noticing. In the U.S., elite universities are experiencing a significant backlash against their response to the Hamas outrage.

Bruce
Bruce
October 28, 2023 10:33 am

I’ll see ya’ “Snowy 2” and raise you one of these:

https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=56216

Chris
Chris
October 28, 2023 10:35 am

Horror in Israel.
Mass shooting in Maine.
Even a sex murder in Sydney.
These subsequent crimes are not all mere coincidences.
Copycat crimes are inspired by public attention.
The sickos that launch imitative crimes get lessons from the media and accept the rewards that media offer them – millions of dollars worth of attention and significance.

Activists and media fuel chains of copycat murders and suicides.

Zatara
Zatara
October 28, 2023 10:37 am

The US has moved TWO Carrier Battle Groups into the Mediterranean and TWO more have just left the West Coast, destination unknown.
(I’ll take a wild guess and say the Persian Gulf is favourite.)

Unsurprisingly, wrong in multiple ways.

One, USS Gerald Ford, in the Med.
One, USS Eisenhower, just sailed from Norfolk, Va to join the Ford in the Med.
One, USS Vinson, just sailed from San Diego for the Indo-Pacific region.
One, USS Ronald Reagan, is on patrol off Busan, Korea.

Trump NEVER said “they are there to take Syria’s oil”.

Rabz
October 28, 2023 10:41 am

Leak has this pair of nazi sh*theads perfectly rendered.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 28, 2023 10:42 am

The Voice was a magnificent poke in the eye to the elites. Possibly even better than Brexit. It remains to be seen whether it has any lasting effect.

MatrixTransform
October 28, 2023 10:42 am

Thanks OO

loved it
confirms all my biases

policies of affirmative action — designed to increase the proportion of female and non-white students and teachers in universities — had the unintended consequence of reducing intellectual diversity

quelle surprise

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 28, 2023 10:46 am

I’ll see ya’ “Snowy 2” and raise you one of these

No change from A$200 billion for the same distance as between Sydney and Newcastle? Very fast trains are a very fast way to waste very large amounts of money.

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 10:46 am

But in July, the NDIA began enforcing a “per participant” cap on the amount they were able to claim for a house.

The three-bedroom home where Ms Tobin has been living has a maximum “per participant” price of $42,000 per year, but NDISP had been claiming her full $90,000 annual NDIS housing allocation to enable her to remain as a sole occupant.

she’d rather live in her car, apparently

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 28, 2023 10:47 am

…judges such as ACT Chief Justice Lucy McCallum, who uses her courtroom to channel Lidia Thorpe by acknowledging that sovereignty has never been ceded.

Would be very interesting after a case in such a courtroom where the losers mounted an appeal based on apprehended bias. In other words if you’re white the judge is clearly biased against you.

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 10:47 am

The Voice was a magnificent poke in the eye to the elites. Possibly even better than Brexit. It remains to be seen whether it has any lasting effect.

Well they won’t be touching the Constitution, for starters.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 28, 2023 10:49 am

Big fan of Niall Ferguson. Well worth reading any of his stuff you may come across. He did the BBC equivalent of the Boyer Lectures a number of years back.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 28, 2023 10:50 am

UN calls for ‘immediate humanitarian truce’
Agency writers
Agency writers

The UN General Assembly called by a large majority for an “immediate humanitarian truce” in Gaza, on the 21st day of the Israel-Hamas conflict as the Israeli army announced it was extending its ground operation into the shattered territory.

The non-binding resolution on Friday – criticised by Israel and the US for failing to mention Hamas – received 120 votes in favour, 14 against and 45 abstentions from UN members.

Israel angrily dismissed the measure, and said the country would use “every means at our disposal” in confronting Hamas.

“Today is a day that will go down as infamy. We have all witnessed that the UN no longer holds even one ounce of legitimacy or relevance,” Israeli ambassador Gilad Erdan said, telling the assembly: “Shame on you.

“Israel will continue to defend itself. We will defend our future, our very existence by ridding the world of Hamas’s evil so that it can never threaten anyone else again,” he said.

Hamas meanwhile welcomed the call for a break in the conflict. “We demand its immediate application to allow the entry of fuel and humanitarian aid for civilians,” said a Hamas statement.

The rival Palestinian Authority’s foreign ministry said that as Israel’s campaign “reaches a new peak of brutality,” there was “a solid international position rejecting Israel’s unhinged aggression”.

The text proposed by Jordan in the name of 22 Arab countries called for “an immediate, durable and sustained humanitarian truce leading to a cessation of hostilities.”

An earlier version called for an “immediate ceasefire.”

bons
bons
October 28, 2023 10:50 am

My most despised left wing agitators and political subversives pretending to be an NGO, OXFAM, has the begging bowl out for Gaza. Unbelievable.

The widda women, retiree ladies and doctors’ wives in my area will dig deep.

It would be fascinating to learn the financial pathway that the funds will follow in order to materialise in Gaza. Bank of Qatar, South London branch will no doubt act as facilitator.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 28, 2023 10:52 am

Fun fact for the day: Qatar has just sentenced 8 Indian naval officers to death for “spying for Israel”. How not to win friends in the middle of a ME war.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 28, 2023 10:53 am

Big fan of Niall Ferguson.

Married to a staunch critic of Islam, one Ayan Hirsi Ali.

Razey
Razey
October 28, 2023 10:53 am

Antisemitic robots now:

Google’s Chatbot Refuses To Talk About Israel (OAN, 27 Oct)

Microsofts Bing Chat shut me down after realsing that it had to admit Hamas were terrorists murdering Jews. These ‘AI’ bots are woke and stupid.

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 10:54 am

…she’d rather live in her car, apparently

The mistake was to offer a single woman a 3 bedroom house when she already had a social housing unit that would have been modified to suit her needs.

And apparently she wasn’t the only one.

OPM eventually runs out.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 28, 2023 10:55 am

Well they won’t be touching the Constitution, for starters.

Fair to say “Trust us” hasn’t worked as a strategy. Nor should it – even with $50m of TV ads with some doe eyed kid wondering whether he will go to school. Might work with a nation of Greta Thunbergs. That’s why minors aren’t allowed to vote – despite what The Greens may want.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 28, 2023 11:00 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Oct 28, 2023 10:27 AM

Antisemitic robots now:

Google’s Chatbot Refuses To Talk About Israel (OAN, 27 Oct)

Pro-Hamas, anti-Israel propaganda is spreading like wildfire online, and it’s getting some help from “big tech.” Dan Schneider, the head of Free Speech America at the Media Research Center, joins One America’s Stella Escobedo to expose how Google’s Chatbot “Bard” is refusing to acknowledge Israel altogether.

Not accidental I expect.

BON,

Agreed suspicious

as I said yesterday – when I scanned the QR Code on the 1 page that was left on all UN Desks – specifically the photo of the 1 page on the Ireland Desk

https://www.timesofisrael.com/erdan-shows-attempted-beheading-in-uphill-bid-to-block-unga-resolution-ignoring-hamas/

Scroll down for photo on Ireland Desk

Yesterday it came up with Error 404

However today it opened on Drive in Firefox – Pretty Horrendous

This should be sent to The Australian Labor Party, Greens, TEALS, Clover Moore, Mike Burgess and ask them how them can support Gaza Palestininas who voted in these Hamas Monsters & use their own Civilians as Human Shields

I Think this is the address – https://drive.google.com/mobile/folders/1MIOB52Ijnq3svbPrb-RuSsRxIR-dROdl?usp=sharing

Looks like that is for mobile only as does not work on iMac Desktop Firefox or Chrome

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 28, 2023 11:01 am

MatrixTransform
Oct 28, 2023 10:42 AM
Thanks OO

loved it
confirms all my biases

policies of affirmative action — designed to increase the proportion of female and non-white students and teachers in universities — had the unintended consequence of reducing intellectual diversity

quelle surprise

I doubt very much that the consequences were unintended.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 28, 2023 11:01 am

with some doe eyed kid wondering whether he will go to school

Of course you can go to school – all your parents and uncles and aunties have to do is not sit up all night, playing cards, and keeping you awake, so you go to sleep in class next day.

Makka
Makka
October 28, 2023 11:05 am

I think the invasion has started.

Serge is saying it’s a division size incursion, more geared to gauging international response.

Let’s hope the dragnet for Hamas yields a shit tonne of bodies.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 28, 2023 11:07 am

Conservatives Express Concern Over Newly-Elected Speaker Johnson’s Ukraine Position on First Day after McConnell Meeting

Not worth fighting over right now. The best answer I think would be to make all aid conditional on it being a 1:1 split between Ukraine and Israel. $1 to Ukraine for every $1 to Israel. Then stand back and watch the interest groups fight it out with a large bag of popcorn handy.

Meanwhile Johnson is right over the target!

Funny Cuz It’s TRUE: James Woods Comes Up With New Nickname for Adam Schiff and it’s Hilariously PERFECT (Twitchy, 27 Oct)

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 11:08 am
rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 11:10 am
MatrixTransform
October 28, 2023 11:10 am

These ‘AI’ bots are woke and stupid

I had the dubious pleasure of rubbing up against these people during the week …

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rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 11:12 am

Last vid apparently is fake sorry

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 11:14 am

Big fan of Niall Ferguson. Well worth reading any of his stuff you may come across. He did the BBC equivalent of the Boyer Lectures a number of years back.

After outing himself as pro-Israel I doubt he’ll be invited back.

Vicki
Vicki
October 28, 2023 11:15 am

The mindless ideologues who think the invasion of 7/10 was all about “liberating” Gazans (they were not occupied), should be forced to view the footage of the crazed terrorist trying to decapitate a visiting Thai agricultural worker with a garden hoe. Like the decapitated babies, it takes some time to recover from just the thought of these atrocities.

But the loonie Left will probably say it was a staged Tik Tok clip.

Makka
Makka
October 28, 2023 11:15 am

The UN General Assembly called by a large majority for an “immediate humanitarian truce” in Gaza,

But guy’s keep up the killing in Ukraine- it’s all good.

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 11:17 am

I think the invasion has started.

It’s officially an “expansion of operations.”

The IDF has been making incursions into Gaza since the 13th.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 28, 2023 11:17 am

Fair to say “Trust us” hasn’t worked as a strategy.

Very true.
But to be fair, the First Nations industry are very clear about what they want: compensation, self-determination, traditional law – and a national representative organisation to play with.

Trust us’ was Albanese the Torrie Fighter’s very own contribution.

bons
bons
October 28, 2023 11:18 am

Jock.

Sanctimony, yes yes, that was the word that I was seeking when describing the polling booth Karens.

Sanctimony and hissing vitriol combined with complete ignorance.

Vicki
Vicki
October 28, 2023 11:19 am

Serge is saying it’s a division size incursion, more geared to gauging international response.

I thought Israel is long past caring about the “International response”. They know what it will be, anyway.

By this stage they will surely have gathered enough intelligence to determine their procedure. Some are saying that an effective scouring of the tunnel system will take months.

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 11:20 am

The UN General Assembly called by a large majority for an “immediate humanitarian truce” in Gaza

Why didn’t they call on Hamas to allow civilians to evacuate?

It is against international law to prevent them from doing so.

(Yes, yes…I know.)

rosie
rosie
October 28, 2023 11:24 am

Well the terrorist boosters on twitter are going off.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 28, 2023 11:25 am

Palestinians not so keen on Hamas anymore?

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 11:25 am

I haven’t seen Minister Wong call for that either.

And certainly not Tony Burqa.

It’s though these people want masses of civilian casualties.

JMH
JMH
October 28, 2023 11:26 am

I checked some of the Mulgrave by-election candidates. I am pleased to report Ian Cook is running for the seat again.

MatrixTransform
October 28, 2023 11:26 am

I doubt very much that the consequences were unintended

exactly my belief

thing is, I’ve been among them
was for decades
my ex-wife is one of them

I’ve seen it, I’ve heard it, I read their papers, I read their books
and observed what they did ‘after’ for about 30 years

it is deffo designed to break everything … as per say Alinsky, Gramsci, et al

the activism never rests, it is everywhere all at once

tampon machines in men’s bathrooms … is more a metaphor than a necessity

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 28, 2023 11:28 am

Cluebat news.

Victorian Liberals walk back treaty support after Voice defeat (Sky News, 28 Oct)

Victorian Opposition leader John Pesutto has confirmed internal discussions are underway to walk back the Coalition’s commitment to working towards treaty.

In an exclusive interview with Sky News Australia, John Pesutto said he wouldn’t rule out following his Queensland counterpart in the wake of the failed referendum.

“We have no idea what Jacinta Allan really intends to put into a treaty,” Mr Pesutto said.

The resounding No vote in the recent Voice referendum prompted a re-think for the Victorian Liberals in their stance.

The move is partly brought on by the Queensland Liberals walking back a bipartisan commitment to treaty.

Must stick in their craw to be forced like this to actually represent the wishes of their own voters, who from the polls I saw were roughly 90% against the inVoice.

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 11:31 am

tampon machines in men’s bathrooms … is more a metaphor than a necessity

I’m old enough to remember when it was condom vending machines!

Makka
Makka
October 28, 2023 11:31 am

I thought Israel is long past caring about the “International response”. They know what it will be, anyway.

The US has a big say in calling the shots on timing. Moving it’s assets closer to the theater and the diplomatic merry go round of getting everyone primed for the possible Iran/US conflict if it erupts.

Several Euro countries will be prepping their domestic police forces for more street related disruptions. Anti- terrorist defences mobilised to the max.

Without doubt a lot happening behind the scenes. So timing, as always , will be everything.

MatrixTransform
October 28, 2023 11:32 am

Roger,
evidence of pre-stealthing right there !

bons
bons
October 28, 2023 11:35 am

Sky news’ latest video report on Gaza operations.

Straight to a Hamas hospital!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 28, 2023 11:35 am

The UN General Assembly called by a large majority for an “immediate humanitarian truce” in Gaza

Why didn’t they call on Hamas to allow civilians to evacuate?

And why didn’t they call upon Hamas to surrender unconditionally? It’s going to happen one way or another, if they do so now they spare Gaza from the fate of Japan four years after Pearl Harbor.

Since Israel is civilized even the jihadists would then survive, albeit to be incarcerated the rest of their miserable lives.

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 11:36 am

“We have no idea what Jacinta Allan really intends to put into a treaty,” Mr Pesutto said.

It doesn’t matter, you spineless dimwit.

It’s wrong in principle.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 28, 2023 11:37 am

Big fan of Niall Ferguson. Well worth reading any of his stuff you may come across.

He has his blind spots.
Also has TDS.
But mostly good on history & economic history.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 28, 2023 11:38 am

The UN General Assembly called by a large majority for an “immediate humanitarian truce” in Gaza,

No surprise Australia abstains…

https://twitter.com/UN_News_Centre/status/1717992371906839005/photo/2

I note no resolution on Hamas to stop committing Perfidy after another Hospital being outed as sitting over a C3 node.

I hope Israel grinds them to a pulp.

Vicki
Vicki
October 28, 2023 11:40 am

The US has a big say in calling the shots on timing. Moving it’s assets closer to the theater and the diplomatic merry go round of getting everyone primed for the possible Iran/US conflict if it erupts.

Several Euro countries will be prepping their domestic police forces for more street related disruptions. Anti- terrorist defences mobilised to the max.

Good call.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 28, 2023 11:42 am

Vicki
Oct 28, 2023 11:15 AM

The mindless ideologues who think the invasion of 7/10 was all about “liberating” Gazans (they were not occupied), should be forced to view the footage of the crazed terrorist trying to decapitate a visiting Thai agricultural worker with a garden hoe. Like the decapitated babies, it takes some time to recover from just the thought of these atrocities.

But the loonie Left will probably say it was a staged Tik Tok clip.

Vicki,

the images on the QR Code of the 1 page on UN Ireland Desk are absolutely Horrendous – https://www.timesofisrael.com/erdan-shows-attempted-beheading-in-uphill-bid-to-block-unga-resolution-ignoring-hamas/

– The Dumpster Bin full of Charred Bodies – God only knows what happened to the Women with the Gag in her mouth, looks like she was burnt alive – the body burnt to a crisp with their hands tied together -the charred, totally blackened skull with white teeth stading out – the 4 min video of brave Hamas Palestinian Barbarians shooting unarmed young people enjoying themelves

Charred bodies everywhere, beheaded soldiers, charred babies

How could any Australian support the Palestinian Gazans who rejoice at Hamas, having seen those images & video?

Muddy
Muddy
October 28, 2023 11:42 am

Whilst undertaking military history research for one of several ‘side projects,’ I’ve come across the War Graves card of one of the men who was killed during the campaign I’m focusing on. The epitaph his family chose to have engraved was: ‘May we be worthy of your great sacrifice.’

Ummm, yeah.
About that.
ARE we worthy?
What the heck have we done to defend what we have, other than b!tch, moan, wail about how helpless we are, and watch the world burn around us?
We several generations deserve to inhabit an historical void. Conservatives are no different. We’ve saved nothing. Jellyfish.

[Cue the pitiful whining: ‘But we’re so helpless. What can we do? If you don’t provide answers for us, just shut up so we can wallow in our impotence’].

Yes, I am having a b!tchy morning. Thanks for asking.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 28, 2023 11:42 am

Roger

Oct 28, 2023 11:36 AM

“We have no idea what Jacinta Allan really intends to put into a treaty,” Mr Pesutto said.

It doesn’t matter, you spineless dimwit.

It’s wrong in principle.

File that with “I won’t be ordering the shit sandwich until I know exactly how much shit is in it”.

Makka
Makka
October 28, 2023 11:43 am

From Bruce’s link;

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/iran-spy-ring-robert-malley-lee-smith

Gosh, the Iranians have been very busy. This has been going on for some time. I wonder how much of this intel was shared with Israel- I’m guessing not much. Lots of $$$$ sloshing around this too so no doubt the Bidens wanted that train to keep rolling.

This latest Hamas suicide project really threw a spanner in the works. Oh well, another money spigot will crop up somewhere for them.

The Biden administration’s now-suspended Iran envoy Robert Malley helped to fund, support, and direct an Iranian intelligence operation designed to influence the United States and allied governments, according to a trove of purloined Iranian government emails.

The contents of the emails are damning, showing a group of Iranian American academics being recruited by the Iranian regime, meeting together in foreign countries to receive instructions from top regime officials, and pledging their personal loyalty to the regime. They also show how these operatives used their Iranian heritage and Western academic positions to influence U.S. policy toward Iran, first as outside “experts” and then from high-level U.S. government posts. Both inside and outside of government, the efforts of members of this circle were repeatedly supported and advanced by Malley, who served as the U.S. government’s chief interlocutor with Iran under both the Obama and the Biden administrations. Malley is also the former head of the International Crisis Group (ICG), which directly paid and credentialed several key members of the regime’s influence operation.

Roger
Roger
October 28, 2023 11:44 am

Several Euro countries will be prepping their domestic police forces for more street related disruptions.

Whilst our plod will be working on their excuses.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 28, 2023 11:46 am

Bogan humans conquered the world by inventing thongs.

Earliest evidence of flip flops in the Middle Stone Age (Phys.org, 27 Oct)

In a twist in the ancient human story, emerging evidence suggests that we may have worn shoes as early as the Middle Stone Age (75,000—150,000 years ago).

According to one of the researchers, Dr. Bernhard Zipfel, of Wits’ Evolutionary Studies Institute, the new evidence reveals that humans of the time wore some form of footwear to walk across the beach.

Zipfel, who is also a podiatrist, believes that the type of shoes worn were plakkies, or what we know as flip flops. This is backed up by recent archaeological evidence of sandals worn by San people.

Makes a lot of sense, it’s a long trudge from Africa to everywhere else. And lots of sharp and pointy things underfoot on the way.

Morsie
Morsie
October 28, 2023 11:48 am

It may be my fault but I have heard nothing from my local member M REyan about teh Israel and hamas stoush.
In my view to be silent is to be in favour of Hamas.

Cassie of Sydney
October 28, 2023 11:50 am

Here’s a list of names of brave men and women who’ve been 100% right about the threat of Islam for years…

Pamela Geller
Robert Spencer
Milo Yiannopoulos
Laura Loomer
David Woods
Lauren Southern
Katie Hopkins
Tommy Robinson
Carl Benjamin
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Bill Leak
Geert Wilders

All smeared as “Islamophobes”. Here’s the thing, if a person is smeared as an ‘Islamphobe”, it’s best to assume that person is 100% correct about Islam.

Please add to the list.

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