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Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 1, 2023 12:03 am

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OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 12:05 am

Too Important to leave on Old Thread!

Hamas horrors you luckily won’t see — glimpse of terror too sick for Israel to air

By Kelly Jane Torrance

What does one wear to a massacre?

That was the bizarre question that came into my head as I prepared — and braced myself — to visit the Israeli Consulate in New York late Friday morning to watch 45 minutes of the hundreds of hours of footage collected from Hamas’ Oct. 7 bloodbath in southern Israel.

I had some idea of the horrors I’d see, of course.

Photographs and videos showing the results of the terrorist rampage have streamed out of Israel and the Gaza Strip for weeks — some even as it was taking place.

Dead terrorists had on them written orders that included directions for operating GoPro cameras to capture their evil escapades and sometimes broadcast them in real time on social media.

Hamas and its Iranian masters wanted the dirty deeds documented. They aimed to terrorize an entire nation and beyond by showing just what they’re capable of.

And they sought to inspire their fellow travelers to follow suit in intensifying the jihad.

Yet some people still say they don’t believe such things happened — with doubters found in the most educated, elite sectors of society.

Hence Friday’s special event.

I used to be a movie critic, and I can tell you the mood at this screening was unlike any other.

None of us wanted to see such sights. But none of us would give up the opportunity. The world needs to know what happened as even “reputable” news organizations refuse to tell the truth about that gruesome day.

Journalists, about 20 of us, had to leave our cellphones and Apple Watches at the door. Some of the footage had never been released, and Israeli authorities had their reasons for showing it only to reporters and some select others — like President Biden.

They’re concerned about the feelings of the families involved, of course.

They also don’t want such horror and humiliation broadcast worldwide: “We have values,” as retired major general and reservist Mickey Edelstein declared in a Zoom briefing from Israel after the screening.

Am I trying to give you the proper context before describing what I saw? Or am I putting off putting into words images I’ll never forget?

Follow along with The Post’s live blog for the latest on Hamas’ attack on Israel

I’ve learned how ugly the world can be. I recently spent a few weeks in Ukraine, where I heard firsthand story after story of the indignities and inhumanity of Russian occupation.

I’ve interviewed Iranian escapees from Tehran’s notorious prison for dissidents, including a young brother and sister tortured in front of each other.

But human beings still have the capacity to shock — if one can call Hamas members human beings. I’ll long be haunted by what happened Oct. 7.

Everyone should be.

The footage eases you into things — a little. Terrorists fire at motorists on a highway. They enter a kibbutz and blow an ambulance’s tires first. They shoot a dog, who remains shaking on the street. They light a home on fire. Then they start entering houses.

Israel collected video from a wide variety of sources: public closed-circuit TV, traffic cameras, dashcams of terrorists and victims, as well as their social media posts and messages home. In footage from fighters’ body cameras, you can hear the murderers breathe heavily as they nervously approach their prey.

I wanted to look away

It was hard to watch. Harder still for the Israelis. The consul general admitted afterward he couldn’t stay for the whole screening. Another staffer seemed to find most difficult to see and hear some of the same footage I did: A father tries to get his young children, dressed only in underpants, safely to a backyard shelter.

A grenade lands before he can close the door, and he’s dead. A terrorist takes his two boys back into the house, and a security camera captures their devastation. The blast blinded one boy in an eye. The other falls to the ground, plaintively pleading, “Why am I alive? Why am I alive?” (The boys, we’re told, managed to escape — at least physically.)

We see homes in kibbutzim, fields young concertgoers ran through, Israel Defense Forces installations with terrified young women huddling in a room.

Blood. Blood everywhere, trails of it, puddles of it. Burned bodies still smoking. A man with his nose blown off. Headless Israeli soldiers. An elderly woman clad only in her brightly colored underwear never meant to be seen by so many. Piles of bodies surrounded by young men celebrating, chanting, “Allahu akbar!”

Some footage has been geolocated to Gaza. A broken woman is taken from the back of a Jeep, the rear of her pants coated in blood, and brought to the back seat. We can easily understand what’s likely happening to her there. Young men clamor over, trying to get a look inside, some recording with their cellphones. Two older men walk over — finally, this will stop, I almost think. No: They wanted a good look, too.

Women who were raped had their legs broken, consulate staff said. Then they were killed.

Many times I wanted to look away, but I forced myself not to. We journalists had to see what happened so we could tell the world.

Yet here is a line from a CBS News piece written by a journalist who saw the footage in Israel: “In another clip, a militant stands over a man who appears to have been shot in the gut and hacks at him multiple times with a garden hoe.”

The words “terrorist” or “terrorism” don’t appear in the piece. (They don’t appear in the New York Times’ report of that screening either.)

I can tell you it was not “a militant” who “stands over a man.” A group of terrorists argue over who gets to behead the man, a Thai worker bleeding profusely from his stomach but still alive. Someone does repeatedly hack at him with a hoe, trying to behead him. Every single time, the terrorist yells, “Allahu akbar!”

Support for atrocities

That difference in detail is why the consulate staff sat through 45 minutes of misery.

They need people to see what happened — and put the word out to counter those who pretend it didn’t or wasn’t as bad as claimed. Journalists from supposedly serious publications insist you can’t say Hamas beheaded babies — sure, dead babies were found without their heads, but who knows who did the deed?

The hate I witnessed goes beyond those who entered Israel that day. A young man uses a dead Israeli woman’s phone to call his parents and brag of killing 10 Jews “with my bare hands.”

He pleads, “Please be proud of me, Dad.”

That’s the culture Israel must fight even after it destroys those who planned and executed the Oct. 7 massacre.

And then there’s New York City. A day after the screening, thousands of antisemites marched into Manhattan via the Brooklyn Bridge after a rally at the Brooklyn Museum. At the front were people holding a banner that read “By any means necessary.”

Understand what signs like that, which are becoming more and more common, mean.

These people know what happened Oct. 7.

They are gathering in large numbers in New York and other cities around the country to show their support for the animals who committed these atrocities.

They are as bloodthirsty as the heavy-breathing terrorists whose voices the people of Israel will never get out of their heads.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 12:09 am

Not NSW under Labor Premier Chris Minns

Dozens arrested over anti-Jewish riot in Dagestan

Police conducted home searches and confiscated phones to determine those who took part in the storming of an airport in the southern Russian region

Russia’s Ministry of Internal Affairs has announced the arrest of 83 people in connection with Sunday’s anti-Semitic riots at Makhachkala Airport in the Republic of Dagestan.

Police have warned that any attempts to provoke further unrest in the Muslim-majority region will be suppressed.

In a statement on Telegram on Monday, the ministry said officers had conducted over 50 searches and had seized mobile phones and other equipment to be used as evidence against those suspected of organizing and participating in the riot.

The investigation is being led by the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD), the Federal Security Service (FSB), and the Investigative Committee (SK). The MVD described the “operational situation” in Dagestan as being under control but warned against any attempts to destabilize the region.

The arrests came after a crowd of rioters forced their way into the terminal at Makhachkala Airport in the Dagestani capital on Sunday, then pouring onto the runway in an attempt to storm a plane arriving from Tel Aviv. The unrest was apparently triggered by rumors on social media that the aircraft was carrying a group of “Israeli refugees” supposedly fleeing from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The rioters blocked the runway for several hours as they tried to board the Tel Aviv flight. They were also filmed questioning random people at the airport terminal, trying to determine whether or not they were Jewish.

The authorities restored order following heavy clashes with the protesters, which left more than 20 people injured, including nine officers. Sixty rioters were arrested at the scene.

The head of the Republic of Dagestan, Sergey Melikov, stressed on Monday that the regional authorities would not allow the rioters to escape punishment, denouncing the unrest as a “betrayal” and vowing “no forgiveness for anyone.”

Ukraine was quick to claim that the incident was “proof” of Russian anti-Semitism.

However, Russian Muslim leaders and senior officials have condemned the scenes as unacceptable, suggesting the unrest was incited from abroad.

According to Melikov, the riots were sparked by rumors initially spread through the Utro Dagestan (‘Dagestan Morning’) Telegram channel, which has been exposed as a Ukrainian intelligence service project designed to stir ethnic and religious unrest in Russia. The channel was founded by Ilya Ponomarev, a former Russian MP who fled to Kiev in 2014 after being charged with embezzlement. The channel was blocked by Telegram on Monday for inciting violence.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 1, 2023 12:09 am

I frickin hate Halloween.
Imported, corporatized, rootless shite, just like First Nations Welcome To Countries, and I’,m ashamed of the mongs who hitch along with it.
I mean, it’s not even folksy, we’ve skipped the cool ghosts-and-spirits-and-tomfoolery aspect and just gone for bulk junk food, blood-guts-n-horrror and infantilised tennagers being Ubered around the suburbs by their mum in the Prado.
It’s not like there’s anything serious going on in the world that we need escapism from, either. Affluence and imitation.
Sheesh I’m reminding me of Philip Adams.

MatrixTransform
November 1, 2023 12:10 am
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 1, 2023 12:10 am

Thanks for re-posting, Old Oz. You’re right, this needs to be front-of-mind.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 1, 2023 12:15 am

Then they made lampshades. Oh Gord!

The tripe that people swallow.

Alamak!
November 1, 2023 12:16 am

Sheesh I’m reminding me of Philip Adams.

There is plenty of room for a new model “get-off-my-lawn” pundit to replace Adams and the like.

MatrixTransform
November 1, 2023 12:18 am

I frickin hate Halloween

it sucks

though I love the way the hispanics do it
a mourning and ad celebration that it ain’t you what’s dead

true as a type this
this arvo me and Pete are in the back-end of the Melb legal precinct looking for something to eat

and there’s this sheila with her face whited out with black eye-liner and she’s looking very un-deadish

the best part was that when I stared at her smiling she played the part and gave me a very wide-eyed freaked out look

like the dead would when the living can actually see them

made my fecking day

MatrixTransform
November 1, 2023 12:19 am

ps:

that post had sweet FA to do with sancho

calm yr speculation boners

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 1, 2023 12:21 am

Then they made lampshades. Oh Gord!

Turn it up Zafiro.
Though you inadvertently raise a notable comparison.

These sadistic murdering savages differ from their Teutonic forerunners in a couple of notable ways. Whereas the 1940s version sought to conceal, even from their own people, the nature of their deeds, while the philistines of today are actually recording it on go-pro and streaming it, for the vicarious thrill of their ordinary citizenry, from Gaza to Lakemba they’re actually cheering this.

However the current lot are purely destructive, they’re incapable of building anything.
Had the 1940s crew been in charge of Gaza for 18 yrs it’d now be a showpiece of organisation & civic efficiency.

They are pure evil. Deserving of turning into red mist.

Gabor
Gabor
November 1, 2023 12:21 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Oct 31, 2023 11:38 PM

only reason I mentioned a certain Faith Group was because I didnt like the idea of turning human Beings into “Pink Mist” regardless of their Faith or Cultural affiliations … and even then I wasn’t rude or belligerent.

Mark, if you are genuinely not Bird, I might give you the benefit of the doubt re ‘pink mist’, which is an horrific concept if taken literally. Regarding Israel though, you appear tone deaf, hopeless at symbolic nuance, and oblivious to context or moral clarity. Something of a blunderbuss? Fools walk in etc.

Just my view maybe.

He is Bird make no mistake, but he is rat cunning by not coming out as a full blown Jew hater but see who he is after?

Never want anyone banned but Bird is on the top of the list if it comes to that.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 1, 2023 12:28 am

I’ve no problem turning any Hamas or Hamas enabler into pink mist.
Sick to death I am, of assholes who cheered & danced when learning Margaret Thatcher has passed, then getting all stern that I mustn’t exhibit any glee at Bin Laden being exterminated. Ending of any human life is a tragic/sad/something event & must not be celebrated.

Were I Marky Bolton’s “take ’em out the back & flog ’em” type, then that is the moment when I’d have cut loose with some of these dreadlocked pasty beta uni-arts types.
They actually danced & cheered upon hearing Mrs. Thatcher had died. They actually engaged in ‘this is not to be a celebration’ emotional blackmail when Bin Laden was neutralised.

I’ll applaud turning Hamas into pink mist, & I do not apologise for it, nor do I seek the approval of some flog journalist or arts student or placard waving commo.

Turn the bastards into pink mist, the sooner the better, the mistier the better.
May the IDF prevail mightily.

JC
JC
November 1, 2023 12:29 am

Gabor

Stop worrying about it. At some stage the inner Bird always comes out.

JC
JC
November 1, 2023 12:33 am

Driller

Just to get this straight, 1400 innocent Israelis were murdered. Killed in the most horrible ways and you’re talking about the same group celebrating Maggie’s demise. That’s your prime focus in wanting to turn them into fine mist. You’re one really weird NPC.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 12:35 am

Wally Dalí
Nov 1, 2023 12:09 AM

I frickin hate Halloween.

Imported, corporatized, rootless shite, just like First Nations Welcome To Countries, and I’,m ashamed of the mongs who hitch along with it.

I mean, it’s not even folksy, we’ve skipped the cool ghosts-and-spirits-and-tomfoolery aspect and just gone for bulk junk food, blood-guts-n-horrror and infantilised tennagers being Ubered around the suburbs by their mum in the Prado.

Wally,

you obviously don’t have live-in Grandkids – mine 6/8/11 Years

Our Street Front Totally Decorated – Sweets Candy at Front Gate – One piece only please

and yep like Paul Stookey of Peter Paul & Mary in comedy routine describing when he was a kid they would knock gently on a door and ask for sweets – nowdays they arrive in a car and are told get out – Bang Bang Bang on door – Your Money or your life”

Yep my Grandkids driven around to best decorated local streets – though 11 year old Grandson wore my Haloween Hawaiian Shirt and came back by Scooter (non-electric)

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 12:40 am

White House Accidentally Hands Out Plastic Baggies Of Cocaine To Trick-Or-Treaters

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Parents are encouraged to check their child’s Halloween candy haul every year to keep an eye out for razor blades and granola bars, but they didn’t have to worry about the treats they’d get from the White House — until now.

According to sources, the President and First Lady accidentally handed out fresh-cut bags of cocaine to trick-or-treaters at the South Lawn of the White House instead of candy, endangering both children and poll numbers.

“Dagnabbit, I grabbed the wrong basket again,” said a frustrated Biden upon realizing he had already distributed his son Hunter’s stash to the entire neighborhood.

“Ah well… anyway, prick or preet, kids, have fun!”

According to eyewitnesses, Dr. Jill Biden then sprang into action. “Oh no, Joe! Crack is bad for kids!” she said. “I know that because I am a real doctor!”

She then began chasing down children and swatting baskets out of their hands, leaving dozens of traumatized children crying on the White House lawn.

The weeping children attracted the attention of Secret Service agents who proceeded to seal off exits and haphazardly search through bags of Halloween candy.

“Whoa whoa whoa, not so fast, pal!” shouted Special Agent Vince Stallone as he slammed a 7-year-old kid in a Mandalorian costume to the ground. “This is some top-shelf blow, kid. You’re going to jail!”

At publishing time, the Secret Service had confirmed they have no leads as to where the cocaine may have come from.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 1, 2023 12:42 am

Ha! Now, that made up for my humbugging, Old Ozzie!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 12:49 am

King’s English and Cockney replaced by three new accents, study finds

Britons depart from overtly class-based post-war speech epitomised by either clipped vowels or working-class dialects

The King’s English and Cockney have all but disappeared among young people as three new accents have emerged, research has found.

Voice analysis found the two accents had been overtaken by standard southern British English (SSBE), as articulated by Ellie Goulding; estuary English, as spoken by Adele; and multicultural London English, as voiced by Stormzy.

The research, using computer algorithms to analyse voices of adults aged 18 to 33, shows how far Britons have departed from the overtly class-based post-war accents epitomised by the clipped vowels in the King’s English of BBC presenters and the working-class cockney of film stars such as Michael Caine and Barbara Windsor.

The voices of nearly 200 people from across south-east England and London were recorded, then analysed by a specially designed algorithm that listened to how they spoke and grouped them by how similarly they pronounced vowels in different words.

Around 26 per cent of those surveyed by the researchers at Essex University spoke estuary English, which has similarities with Cockney, but is more muted and closer to received pronunciation, euphemistically known as the King’s or Queen’s English.

Estuary English speakers pronounce words such as “house” more like “hahs”, but not as extreme as found in Cockney.

The accent, so named because it has extended out along the Thames estuary, is spoken across the South East, but particularly in parts of Essex, and is similar to how Stacey Dooley, Olly Murs, Adele or Jay Blades speak.

SSBE, which is typically perceived as a prestigious, “standard”- or “neutral”-sounding accent, is a modern, updated version of received pronunciation.

SSBE speakers comprised 49 per cent of the sample analysed by the researchers, led by Dr Amanda Cole, a lecturer in language and linguistics at Essex University.

Such speakers tend to say words like “goose” with the tongue further forward in the mouth – sounding a bit more like “geese” – than what would be expected in received pronunciation, according to Dr Cole.

This drift away from received pronunciation was evident in the changing accent of Queen Elizabeth II over her lifetime, spanning the changing diction of the nation from post-war Britain to the birth of the 21st century.

A feature of SSBE and estuary English is the glottal stop. In estuary English, it replaces the ‘t’ in wa’er (water), be’er (better) and ci’y (city). But in SSBE, it only replaces the ‘t’ at the end of the word, such as wha’ (what), or bu’ (but).

Speakers include Ellie Goulding, Josh Widdicombe and potentially even Prince Harry.

Around 25 per cent of the young people used the third accent, multicultural London English.

They pronounced the vowels in words like bate and boat with the tongue starting at a point higher up in the mouth compared to standard southern British English, so that they might sound a little bit more like “beht” and “boht”.

They tended to be Asian British or black British and many were from London, but there were also people from across the South East who spoke with elements of a multicultural London English accent.

England footballer Bukayo Saka, and rappers Little Simz and Stormzy are examples of people with these features in their speech.

However, gone from among those surveyed was any measurable evidence of the King’s English or Cockney. “Cockney, the working-class London accent of Barbara Windsor or Michael Caine, and received pronunciation, which some call Queen’s English (or perhaps now King’s English), did not appear in our analysis,” said Dr Cole.

“That’s not to say that there aren’t any young people in our sample who might have spoken these accents but, if so, they were too few and far between for the algorithm to identify.”

Dr Cole said the shift in accents was a result of increased movement of people, resulting in greater contact between dialects, the growth of universal education and literacy and people buying into the idea that there is a “correct” or “standard” way of speaking.

“Standard southern British English and estuary English are not as different from each other as Cockney and received pronunciation. This could be evidence of what’s known as dialect levelling – where young people from different parts of the region now speak more similarly to each other than their parents or grandparents did,” she said.

Speakers of standard southern British English and estuary English generally tended to be white British, and women were more likely than men to speak the former, which is closer to the King’s English.

‘Women chastised for accents’

“It’s not surprising to find that women speak in a more socially prestigious way, as much previous research suggests women are often more chastised for speaking with regional accents than men,” said Dr Cole.

Estuary English emerged as a phenomenon in the 1980s and 1990s, with politicians such as Gillian Shephard, then education secretary, bemoaning its spread as evidence of a decline in speaking standards from the King’s English.

“Attempting to prevent accents from changing is like sweeping back an incoming tide with a broom – fruitless and defying nature.

Instead, we should embrace linguistic diversity, work to combat accentism (discrimination based on a person’s accent), and accept that accents will always continue to change,” said Dr Cole.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 1, 2023 12:49 am

you’re talking about the same group celebrating Maggie’s demise.

No. You’re too stupid to be able to read for comprehension.
Hence you get yourself into such trouble with historical claims about what various people said.
Dumbass.

Now evolve some morals & ethics. That’s an order.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 1, 2023 12:54 am

London without Cockney? Might as well nuke the place.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 12:58 am

Police shoot unarmed woman wearing Islamic veil and ‘threatening to blow herself up while screaming Allahu Akbar’ at Paris metro station

. Passengers alerted police to the woman with officers ‘isolating’ her in the station
. Armed officers arrived at the station soon after 8.30am. She was shot at 9.20am

JC
JC
November 1, 2023 1:04 am

I’ve no problem turning any Hamas or Hamas enabler into pink mist.
Sick to death I am, of assholes who cheered & danced when learning Margaret Thatcher has passed,

And

They actually danced & cheered upon hearing Mrs. Thatcher had died. They actually engaged in ‘this is not to be a celebration’ emotional blackmail when Bin Laden was neutralised.

With no babbling about anything else and then:

No. You’re too stupid to be able to read for comprehension.
Hence you get yourself into such trouble with historical claims about what various people said.
Dumbass.

Now evolve some morals & ethics. That’s an order.

Maggie was your big concern after all that’s happened? You really are a bumbling NPC

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 1:05 am

Meanwhile in England

Police launch probe into officer seen tearing down posters of Israeli hostages in Manchester as force says it ‘regrets any offence caused’ after Met Police backlash

Police have launched an investigation after an officer was seen tearing down posters of Israeli hostages in Manchester, announcing it ‘regrets any offence caused’.

Footage shared online showed the lone officer tearing down fliers of those kidnapped by Hamas on October 7, seemingly ignoring calls from distressed passers by, questioning what they are doing.

One woman is heard shouting ‘Why is the police taking this down? Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me’, receiving no response while walking down Bury Road in Prestwich.

The force has now confirmed an investigation is underway and will work to ensure posters can continue to be displayed.

Assistant Chief Constable Wasim Chaudhry told MailOnline: ‘We know the ongoing conflict in the Middle East is causing great distress to members of Greater Manchester’s Jewish community and our thoughts remain with them at this time.

‘The force has increased engagement with representatives, including the Community Security Trust, to ensure that they feel heard and understood by GMP and to ensure their safety within the city and our neighbourhoods.

‘We share concerns raised regarding the removal of posters in the North Manchester area and can confirm that an investigation is underway.

‘The action taken last night, in response to complaints, is contrary to guidance that the force had already issued to staff in relation to flyposting. We will continue to work with local authorities and the community to ensure posters can be displayed. We regret any offence caused.’

It comes a day after two Met Police officers were seen tearing down fliers, revealing those who were taken from Israel during Hamas barbaric October 7 attack, outside of Cullimore Chemist in Edgware, North London.

Some locals in the area, which is home to a sizeable Jewish community, have slammed the officers over their ‘disgusting actions’. But the Met has insisted they were merely taking steps to ‘stop issues escalating’ and to ‘avoid community tension’.

In a statement, the force said that the missing posters were hung in ‘retaliation’ for comments about the Israel-Hamas war – including branding Israel and the IDF as ‘filthy animals’ – that were posted online by an alleged member of the chemist’s staff. Police said a printout of the remarks was also hung outside the shop.

Officers removed the posters and the comments because they have a ‘responsibility to take reasonable steps to stop issues escalating and to avoid any further increase in community tension,’ the force said.

Investigators are also reviewing the alleged staff member’s social media post for possible offences.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 1, 2023 1:12 am

JC Nov 1, 2023 1:04 AM

Stoush tourettes from a racially inferior amoral piece of shit, who impotently can’t stand that he doesn’t measure up & can’t do a thing to me.

Sob sob sob. Now go & bounce a cheque you welcher.

One thing we did not hear tonight from the mouth in the south: “Bet accepted”
There is a reason for that.

Now stfu, stop wrecking the blog & go lick your wounds before I give you a few more, you gutless cretin.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 1, 2023 1:13 am

Assistant Chief Constable Wasim Chaudhry told MailOnline: ‘We know the ongoing conflict in the Middle East is causing great distress to members of Greater Manchester’s Jewish community and our thoughts remain with them at this time.

Yeah, but not enough to actually do anything about yuuuge crowds chanting “Kill the Jews”

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 1, 2023 1:45 am

The anti-gun crazies have reached a level of crazy thatdefies common sense.
Biden administration threatens to cease supplying rifles to Israel.
On the grounds that Israel is arming civilians.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 1, 2023 1:46 am

Biden administration threatens to cease supplying rifles to Israel.
On the grounds that Israel is arming civilians.

At first I thought this was a Babylon Bee headline.
It is real.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
November 1, 2023 1:48 am

Yeah, but not enough to actually do anything about yuuuge crowds chanting “Kill the Jews”

Academic theories about intersectionarilty says nothing about that, so we’ll have to just let it pass by without comment. We haven’t been told whether that fits with skin colour we’re supposed to care about.

Tom
Tom
November 1, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
November 1, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
November 1, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
November 1, 2023 4:03 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 1, 2023 4:04 am

People just spin out. So good with kids.

woof bark growl:

Cash 2.0 Great Dane at The Grove on 10-29-2023 (2 of 2)

Tom
Tom
November 1, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
November 1, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
November 1, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
November 1, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
November 1, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
November 1, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
November 1, 2023 4:10 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 1, 2023 5:14 am
Gabor
Gabor
November 1, 2023 6:10 am

Steve trickler
Nov 1, 2023 5:14 AM

I’m sick of these animals.
Analyzing Montreal’s anti-Israel rally: Exploring Hamas’ influence

I have been watching this between bouts of work, I fear for Israel. If the US fails as a superpower then Israel is gone.
Probably a lot of others too, but that is no consolation, imagine what would happen to non Israeli Jews?

A very few European nations are friendly to the Jews, but lack the power to project the distance and be effective.

Hope to God I’m wrong.

bespoke
bespoke
November 1, 2023 6:17 am

In any event, Numbers should be given some leeway and perhaps ignoring him would’ve have been the better course. The guy was clearly messed up and perhaps Vietnam massed with his head.

No!

Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 6:24 am

Zafiro
Nov 1, 2023 12:15 AM
Then they made lampshades. Oh Gord!

The tripe that people swallow.

???

Zafiro
Nov 1, 2023 12:54 AM
London without Cockney? Might as well nuke the place.

This dickhead’s account should be nuked.

This is what the actual witnesses said. General Clay wasn’t there. He was a military governor in Germany later on. Yes from wiki but it’s also 6:24 AM.

For the existence of a lampshade from human skin there are two credible witnesses who made statements under oath: Dr. Gustav Wegerer, an Austrian political prisoner and kapo of the infirmary, and Josef Ackermann, a political prisoner and secretary of the camp doctor Waldemar Hoven.

Wegerer explained: “One day at about the same time [1941] the camp commandant Koch and the SS doctor Müller appeared at my work command in the infirmary. At that time a lampshade made of tanned, tattooed human skin was being prepared for Koch. Koch and Müller chose among the available tanned, parchment-thin human skins the ones with suitable tattoos, for the lampshade. From the conversation between the two it became clear that the previously chosen motifs had not pleased Ilse Koch. The lampshade was then completed and handed over to Koch.” Dr. Hans Mueller, later SS physician in Obersalzberg, was a pathologist in Buchenwald from March 1941 to April 1942. The time period can be defined more precisely through Ackermann’s statement.
Ackermann delivered the lamp, as he testified in 1950 in court. The lamp-foot was made from a human foot and shinbone; on the shade one saw tattoos and even nipples. On the occasion of the birthday party of Koch [August 1941] he was tasked by the camp doctor Hoven to bring the lamp to the Kochs’ villa. This he did. One of the party guests told him later that the presentation of the lamp had been a huge success. The lamp immediately disappeared after the SS leadership learned about it. Ilse Koch could not be accused of making the lampshade.[1]
Five other witnesses testified that they had seen or knew of the existence of human skin artefacts in the possession of Ilse Koch.[12]

calli
calli
November 1, 2023 6:28 am

Interesting that Qantas calls its tickets a “bundle of rights”.

Okaaaay…then instead of calling them “Tickets” when you buy them, be honest. Call them Bundles of Rights. You get them from the Bundles of Rights counter.

This could be fun. What other purchases can I make?

A House – a Bundle of Building Materials
A Dress – a Bundle of cloth and thread
A Car – a Bundle of Metal and Upholstery

Or…Qantas shares…a Bundle of Bulltish.

rosie
rosie
November 1, 2023 6:32 am

Interesting hamas is allowing 81 badly injured to be taken to Egypt for treatment.
Hamas operatives or family members?
No international holiday makers though.
Idf claims to have killed another senior leader.
Interesting those people who disbelieve accounts of atrocities, is that selective disbelief or in general because humanity is just too humane?
CL linked a world war two war crimes decision relating to the so called Dresden Defence used by an Einsatzgruppen leader, I read a bunch of it, I guess the whole thing was just more Jewish propaganda.
guardian update

calli
calli
November 1, 2023 6:35 am

Pogs was only kidding last night, but got something right. I am a crack shot…or I was. Just small arms, love to try something bigger some day. I refused the firing range in Vietnam though – it just didn’t seem right after all the death the place had seen.

Never chased poor PNG highlanders though, just wove my way by car through their stupid tribal wars. That was bows and arrows. They are probably more sophisticated these days unfortunately.

rosie
rosie
November 1, 2023 6:42 am

Unlike guardian BBC doesn’t seem aware that Israel has stated it was a targeted attack against a hamas leader and the location was a terrorist training camp in the north of gaza.
Numbers tally with idf claims re killed.
BBC photo is of dozens of men and a man on a stretcher.
Couldn’t possibly be hamas, they are always somewhere else.

BBC on the strike in ‘Jabalia refugee camp’

rosie
rosie
November 1, 2023 6:50 am

BBC of course doing its best to whip up an Islamic frenzy.
Also note the daily hospital almost out of fuel claim is now failing to materialise, again.
Could it be hamas is releasing fuel for hospital generators because it’s their operational centres and priority is given to treat their fighters?
I remember Khaled Sharrouf’s wife Tara Nettleton was left to die of kidney issues because isis hospitals were for isis.

rosie
rosie
November 1, 2023 6:53 am

That’s a mighty big hole in the ground.
More photos of men.
photos at channel nine of the strike.

calli
calli
November 1, 2023 6:54 am

BBC of course doing its best to whip up an Islamic frenzy.

Why would they want to do that I wonder? What’s in it for them? Not as if they depend on advertising revenue. The only thing I can put it down to is institutional bias against everything “Israel” that has seeped into every corner of the place.

Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 6:57 am

Interesting that Qantas calls its tickets a “bundle of rights”.

It is how property is analysed by lawyers.

When you own something, that confers exclusive rights, and this goes back to Roman law. The right to destroy, sell or use the item, etc.

Keep in mind besides the physical tickets you may or may not have, your property if it is property at all is a chose in action (intangible). They may have a strategic legal reason to not want to say it is a contract for a specific service – as if specific performance cannot be enforced then they would have to pay damages.

What’s really wrong is QANTAS are being unreasonable and incredibly one sided. It’s unlikely their claims would even pass scrutiny under the ACL or Contracts Review Act(s).

calli
calli
November 1, 2023 6:59 am

I get all of that, Dot. I was just amused by the legal contortions.

rosie
rosie
November 1, 2023 7:00 am

Sadly two Israeli soldiers were also killed in fighting yesterday.
the war in pictures

Morsie
Morsie
November 1, 2023 7:01 am

Listening to most Londoners on the news you basically need subtitles these days.Anyfink and similar seems universal.Bit like how d has replaced t in Australia. As in Labor Pardee.

rosie
rosie
November 1, 2023 7:02 am

I don’t know who is employed at the BBC, it might well be there is a very specific editorial bias.

Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 7:02 am

I expect a lot of business managers like you would too calli. Sorry if I sounded condescending.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 1, 2023 7:02 am

Gabor
Nov 1, 2023 6:10 AM

I’m in the mood for cracking heads. I’ve got close friends that have been sucked into this pro Pally BS! Their major fault, they watch the MSM like sheep.

Disgusted.

Effin retards! If friendships are lost, so be it.

bons
bons
November 1, 2023 7:03 am

London without Cockney? Might as well nuke the place.

It’s also untrue.

Go to any market around London and surrounds and its all “free pounds fer a quid darlin”

Love it ol coq.

Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 7:04 am

calli’s little mate (Champ) is up.

He’s like an apprentice.

Champ, go and get us some striped paint, etc.

It will be good to get him offline and stop down ticking the boss when the crew gets KFC instead of Maccas.

Stephen Williams
Stephen Williams
November 1, 2023 7:07 am

Calli, I remember driving through a tribal fight in 77, somewhere a couple of hours west of Mt Hagen on bush track. It was heavy jungle, came round a bend into a clearing of an acre or so. There 30 or 40 men really getting stuck into each other, when they became aware of us they stopped fighting, we drove through and they started again. When we returned a few hours later no one there at all.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 1, 2023 7:08 am

The unions got their deal with GM.
The head line number is $89/hr but the devil is in the detail.
Bottom line is, the only way GM will survive the next decade with that wage bill either slashing management compensation & numbers.
Or increase the automation (ie get rid of the $89/hr workers).
Guess which one will happen?

Cassie of Sydney
November 1, 2023 7:08 am

From the old fred…

Why did Sinc never boot the Numbers lunatic.”

A good question. I have no doubt Numbers lurks here, and that he’s tried to post here but Dover has binned him. We must thank Dover for this.

Numbers has appeared recently on C.L’s blog, under a banal ‘nom de plume’. I’m pretty sure it is him. His continued animus towards Israel and Jews is shocking, I remember his outrage after the terrible massacre of Muslims in Christchurch in 2019, when over fifty men and boys were murdered, yet he shows no such such outrage at the events of 7 October 2023, when over 1400 Jews were murdered, and over 230 kidnapped into Gaza. He probably thinks we Jews had it coming.

He remains a complete hypocrite, like the rest of his comrades on the left. All of them used anti-Zionism as a mask for Jew hatred, but I’ve long known that their quaint ‘anti-Zionism’ has simply been an mask for their unadulterated Jew hatred. Since 7 October, this Jew hatred has now been exposed.

I think at the end of the day it can be safely said that Numbers is a particularly nasty individual. His absence from Dover’s site is no loss and we must keep it that way.

Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 7:08 am

Listening to most Londoners on the news you basically need subtitles these days.Anyfink and similar seems universal.Bit like how d has replaced t in Australia. As in Labor Pardee.

Joanna Lumley can cure that, but technically she’s Indian or Pakistani…

I hope we keep the past tense “t” over “ed”.

It’s curious America ditched it since they tend to contract words. Get with the programme!

Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 7:11 am

He remains a complete hypocrite, like the rest of his comrades on the left. All of them used anti-Zionism as a mask for Jew hatred, but I’ve long known that their quaint ‘anti-Zionism’ has simply been an mask for their unadulterated Jew hatred. Since 7 October, this Jew hatred has now been exposed.

It’s because he’s a full blown superannuated commie. These twits are still supporting proxy wars of a state that no longer exists. It’s quite sad really, being that dumb. If Israel was commo, then The Guardian would read like Pamela Geller.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 1, 2023 7:11 am

Guy Ritchie made the cockney proud again (even though his family is part of the landed gentry).

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 1, 2023 7:12 am

( :

Steve Inman:

All Lives Splatter So Move

Win
Win
November 1, 2023 7:12 am

There is truly a diabolical situation with Queensland Health that the MSM won’t acknowledge out of loyalty to The Labor Government. This is the total disruption and mismanagement of Queensland hospitals.
I know of two people with broken bones in their hands that need surgery. One school girl on the Gold Coast can not get a theatre bed until Friday after a week in pain. As for the metatarsal dislocation footballers seem to be treasured creatures he only had to wait 6 days. To see the doctor that is.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
November 1, 2023 7:13 am

It’s about time!
“ We may now be experiencing a tectonic shift of major magnitude, namely the exodus of Jews from liberalism. The triggering event is the Hamas savagery on Oct 7th in Israel and, of equal importance, the support of many Americans for this barbarism. These two events are a double wakeup call for many American Jews — who could imagine anybody celebrating the beheading of babies, nor thousands of Americans, often at elite universities, denouncing Israel as an apartheid, genocidal colonial regime?”
Robert Weissberg at American Thinker
Link

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 1, 2023 7:15 am

Say it ain’t so!

EV Driving Range Is Even Worse Than Advertised (31 Oct)

Electric vehicle manufacturers have exaggerated the driving range of their vehicles, sometimes by more than twice as much as advertised, according to a study by SAE International.

On average, electric vehicles fall short of their advertised range by 12.5%, according to the Society of Automotive Engineers study. The study included 21 different brands, and revealed that EV manufacturers as a whole inflate the range of their vehicles far beyond their actual capabilities.

Tesla seems to be inflating the numbers far more than other brands. The range displayed on Tesla vehicle’s dashboard is 26% lower than the car’s ability. Tesla even created a secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints online. Tesla rigged the dashboard readouts in its electric cars to provide “rosy” projections of how far owners can drive before needing to recharge, a source told Reuters.

Age of the battery probably doesn’t help since batteries lose capacity over time. There’s also a fair bit in the story about the effect of temperature, quite big drops in range for cold and hot weather. Maybe Elon should air condition the planet to a nice 25 C or so to optimize EV ranges.

Gabor
Gabor
November 1, 2023 7:17 am

Steve trickler
Nov 1, 2023 7:02 AM

Gabor
Nov 1, 2023 6:10 AM

I’m in the mood for cracking heads. I’ve got close friends that have been sucked into this pro Pally BS! Their major fault, they watch the MSM like sheep.
Disgusted.
Effin retards! If friendships are lost, so be it.

I see I’m attracting downticks for my comment, fine with that, had to happen.
Still hope I’m wrong.

calli
calli
November 1, 2023 7:17 am

Sfw, it would happen on the way to morning tea out on the plantation. Goroka. As you say, going at it hammer and tongs, meris wailing in the background, arrows going this way and that.

The first taste I ever got of it was when they had a big barney in the town – the noise of grunting and chanting (a bit like Zulu) and down the road they came. Only there for a week or so – locked and barred the doors, put the littlies in one room, played with them and waited anxiously. After a few years…meh. Up until the big riots.

Cassie of Sydney
November 1, 2023 7:18 am

It’s because he’s a full blown superannuated commie.

Yes.

Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 7:20 am

The head line number is $89/hr but the devil is in the detail.

This is absurd. That’s like $141 per hour here before overtime, benefits or other on costs like workers comp insurance and payroll taxes.

Imagine these as no work or no show jobs showing legitimate income with a 401k.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 1, 2023 7:21 am

nom de plume

Nom de clavier?

will
will
November 1, 2023 7:26 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Nov 1, 2023 7:15 AM
Say it ain’t so!

EV Driving Range Is Even Worse Than Advertised (31 Oct)

and will they be demonised and have money extorted from them as “compensation” like V Dub?

All VW did was tune their product to make sure it passed an idiotic government emissions test, and the idiot CEO apologised!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 1, 2023 7:30 am

Gabor
Nov 1, 2023 7:17 AM

You’re good. Don’t concern yourself with that.

bons
bons
November 1, 2023 7:31 am

As grumpy ol farts, our Halloween response is to remove the batteries from the door bell and retire to the back of the house with a bottle of something nice.

Broke the bloody thing putting the batteries back in, didn’t I?

So, I too now hate fricken Halloween.

It would have been cheaper to buy a bag of lollies for the little brats and not be grumps.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 1, 2023 7:35 am

Insurrection news.

Sickos Interrupt Blinken Testimony | Power Line (31 Oct)

This morning, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin testified before the Senate Appropriations Committee on behalf to the Biden administration’s supplementary funding request for Ukraine and Israel. Blinken’s testimony was repeatedly interrupted by pro-genocide protesters. The protesters timed their interruptions so that every couple of minutes the hearing would be suspended

The J6 protesters were held without trial then jailed for years for exactly this type of interruption of Congress. We’ll see if these felons get similar sentences…over to you DoJ prosecutor people.

rosie
rosie
November 1, 2023 7:36 am
rosie
rosie
November 1, 2023 7:41 am

Noting the neutral language used by the on scene reporter, the colonial oppressor or some such as translated of course (supposed to be a live feed so might be gone) .
Very deep hole in the ground, if you are 40 metres below I suppose you are going to stay where you are.

miltonf
miltonf
November 1, 2023 7:44 am

I’m sure most readers here look at Spiked but will post link anyway.The normalisation of savagery
Societies that give up on freedom will soon find it replaced by violence.

rosie
rosie
November 1, 2023 7:51 am

It was the Jabalia Hamas battalion base with hundreds of fighters who participated in the 7th of October massacre. The Israeli army did a great job of eliminating the battalion with all its members, including the battalion commander Ibrahim Bhiari.

Aka genicide

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 1, 2023 7:51 am

He is Bird make no mistake, but he is rat cunning by not coming out as a full blown Jew hater but see who he is after?

Never want anyone banned but Bird is on the top of the list if it comes to that.

I agree. We’ll have to see how he pans out. The signs are all there. I don’t favour banning any genuine commenter but if he’s Bird, he should go. His ‘pink mist’ issue re romancing Calli was disgusting. His Kippah reference re millinery was very off-colour. He might however just be some other fool.

I don’t revel in ‘pink mist’ because it is too bloodthirsty an image to play with, but I am all in favour of eliminating Hamas, the enemy in this war, with maximum force, and doing whatever it takes. No quarter unless hostages are returned and surrender is made and accepted, and crimes against humanity on the 7th Oct are punished.

A force for the good, the IDF, for Israel and Western civilization.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 1, 2023 7:51 am

General Motors realizes it made a terrible mistake.

GM Backtracks on Joe Biden’s Green Energy Agenda After Investing Billions (31 Oct)

After investing billions to adhere to President Joe Biden’s green energy agenda, General Motors (GM) is backtracking on all fronts when it comes to Electric Vehicles (EVs).

GM CEO Mary Barra, a close ally of Biden’s, has said the automaker will not begin to attempt to produce 400,000 EVs from 2022 through mid-2024 as initially planned. GM is also delaying retooling its plant in Orion Township, Michigan, to build EV pickup trucks. … In addition, GM executives are having to delay launching a number of their EV models such as the Chevrolet Equinox EV, the Chevrolet Silverado EV RST, and the GMC Sierra EV Denali.

“The American public is not ready for the broad adoption of electric vehicles. There are maybe 10 percent to 12 percent of people who really want an electric vehicle … the remainder still want internal combustion,” former GM executive Bob Lutz said this week.

Lutz has read the room sufficiently to dare say that. A year ago he wouldn’t’ve, as he’d be crushed. Maybe GM can disentangle themselves from the green fiasco enough to survive. Whatever happens I suspect they’ll have to go through Chapter 11 at some stage, after the masses of dosh they sank into this stupid mess.

P
P
November 1, 2023 7:57 am

All Saints Day

The feast of All Saints should inspire us with tremendous hope.

Gospel reading today – The Beatitudes, Matthew 5:1-12.

miltonf
miltonf
November 1, 2023 7:58 am

Barra thick with old perv and the chicoms too. Decided not to produce RHD cars anymore.

rosie
rosie
November 1, 2023 8:00 am

The propagandists on twitter response to comments about Israel warning civilians repeatedly to move south is if someone told you to leave your house blah blah
Yet history is replete with evidence that civilians voluntarily flee war zones, north gaza is a war zone and unlike about any previous conflict Israel is giving you advance notice to skedaddle.
That means, unlike all previous wars, Israel are the only ones committing genocide when they seek out their enemies and destroy them.
Truth is subjective.

US ABC

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 1, 2023 8:04 am

“More than 8000 people have been killed so far, more than half of them women and children. Entire buildings have collapsed with occupants still inside. Whole families have been wiped out in an instant. This criminal harm to civilians is intolerable and the obvious needs to be stated again and again – not everything is allowed in war, including war on Hamas,” the statement read.

This is war. Yes. And what is NOT allowed is for combatants to hide behind civilians, using them (and hostages) as human shields. That is what Hamas does, and it is CRIMINAL and not encompassed by the rules (such as they are) of war.

Hamas’ figures on deaths are not yet substantiated. They have form in exaggerating numbers killed and injured. The first casualty of war is truth: remember that re Hamas in particular, for lying is part of their culture. It comes easily to them.

calli
calli
November 1, 2023 8:08 am

You could always shoot them in the leg and have them bleed out. Or a gut shot that will keep them happy for a few days.

I thought my instant annihilation image was merciful.

Personally, I would prefer surrender and restoration of the hostages. But realistically that’s not going to happen.

As for the sexual stuff, that was pure projection. We know he got a little thrill out of it.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 1, 2023 8:12 am

Around 20,000 French civilians were killed by allied bombing in the D-Day landings.
That’s the unintended toll of two armies in battle, not one army and a pack of rabid mangy dogs as in Gaza.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 1, 2023 8:13 am

Keep in mind the Time piece on Ukraine might be full of fake quotes etc but reading the way his inner circle allegedly describe Zelensky, I am reminded of how some of Adam Neumann’s former execs described him.

Neumann is the founder & was the CEO of WeWork who wouldn’t accept reality & kept believing the biggest VC’s on the planet would keep backing him even when they told him no more money.

rosie
rosie
November 1, 2023 8:13 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 8:15 am

Not Only England!

Berlin police apologize for removing posters of Israeli hostages

The Berlin police issued an apology after recordings showed police officers removing posters with pictures of Israeli hostages in Gaza.

The Berlin police issued an apology this evening (Tuesday) after police officers in the German capital were recorded removing posters with pictures of Israeli hostages in Gaza.

The case blew up after the police responded to a request from Bild and Channel 12 News reporter, Antonia Yamin that “the posters were removed because they were hung illegally.”

Many in Berlin were furious with the police and wondered if the police did not have anything more urgent to do when there are threats from antisemites against Jews around the country.

The police later wrote: “Regardless of the fact that the legal evaluation of the posters is still pending, we can understand that the removal of the posters hurt feelings, especially of relatives and friends of the hostages, as well as members of the Israeli/Jewish community. This affects us greatly and we regret it.”

Crossie
Crossie
November 1, 2023 8:16 am

and there’s this sheila with her face whited out with black eye-liner and she’s looking very un-deadish

the best part was that when I stared at her smiling she played the part and gave me a very wide-eyed freaked out look

Yesterday I saw a man in a Hannibal Lecter mask in the local shopping centre holding the hand of his 3-4 yo son who had something painted on his face. How would a child that young know what the mask meant or was it for the rest of the shoppers’ benefit?

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 1, 2023 8:18 am

French Police Shoot ‘Fully Veiled’ Woman Shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ on Subway

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/10/31/french-police-shoot-fully-veiled-woman-shouting-allahu-akbar-on-subway/

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 8:19 am

Israel confirms IDF airstrike on Gaza refugee camp that killed Hamas commander Ibrahim Biari

Israel Defence Forces spokesman Daniel Hagari has confirmed an airstrike on a Gaza refugee camp which he said “eliminated terrorist murderer Ibrahim Biari”.

Israel has confirmed an Israeli Defence Forces airstrike on Gaza’s largest refugee camp has killed a senior Hamas commander.

IDF spokesman Daniel Hagari said Hamas’ “main leader of combat” Ibrahim Biari was killed in Tuesday night’s strike on the Jabalia refugee camp.

At a press conference after the attack, Hagari told reporters that “many other terrorists” who were with Biari at the time were also killed.

“This evening we managed to eliminate the terrorist, the murderer Ibrahim Biari,” he said.

“He was the main leader of combat since the entrance of the forces into north Gaza and was also involved in the October 7 massacre.

“During his elimination many terrorists were killed. Terrorists who were with him in that building as well as underground beneath this building.”

Hagari said infrastructure used by Hamas to carry out terrorist activities was destroyed in the strike.

“The targeting of the other building lead to the collapse of other buildings because there was very extensive infrastructure there,” the IDF spokesman said.

“The purpose of that infrastructure was to carry out terrorist activities against our forces.

“The infrastructure collapsed and many terrorists were killed. The Hamas terrorists continue to use the civilian population as shield intentionally and in a very cruel and brutal manner.”

Indolent
Indolent
November 1, 2023 8:20 am
calli
calli
November 1, 2023 8:20 am

French Police Shoot ‘Fully Veiled’ Woman Shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ on Subway

Darwin Awards in action.

Bruce
Bruce
November 1, 2023 8:22 am

Christopher Hitchens goes against the LSM “standard true view”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2cSTq4CgiE

Indolent
Indolent
November 1, 2023 8:23 am

When your government really, truly, hates you. Terrorism seems to be the means du jour for the 2024 election.

U.S. migrant crisis: 5,000 march toward the border in the BIGGEST caravan of undocumented immigrants in more than a year amid delays at immigration centers in Mexico

Crossie
Crossie
November 1, 2023 8:24 am

Lutz has read the room sufficiently to dare say that. A year ago he wouldn’t’ve, as he’d be crushed. Maybe GM can disentangle themselves from the green fiasco enough to survive. Whatever happens I suspect they’ll have to go through Chapter 11 at some stage, after the masses of dosh they sank into this stupid mess.

They have been bailed out by Obama’s admin so I expect they rightly assume they will be bailed out yet again.

Roger
Roger
November 1, 2023 8:26 am

There is truly a diabolical situation with Queensland Health that the MSM won’t acknowledge out of loyalty to The Labor Government. This is the total disruption and mismanagement of Queensland hospitals.

Usual Labor incompetence, win.

The LNP fixes it when elected (to their credit), gets thrown out and it starts all over again.

shatterzzz
November 1, 2023 8:27 am

t would have been cheaper to buy a bag of lollies for the little brats and not be grumps.

I’m more annoyed cos the kids didn’t call .. saw some out and about whilst putting the rubbish bins out so lollies out & ready …. but no one came .. no idea why maybe I’m a “bogeyman” … being “white” is different around here …….!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 1, 2023 8:28 am

latest in Vesuvius news

Cool! Looking at the text you’d think it would be easy…until you see the photo of the scroll itself. Reading the inside of a carbonized rolled up scroll written with carbon black ink is an amazing feat.

Campi Flegrei is still rumbling.

Musumeci, Campi Flegrei alert may rise to orange (1 Nov)

“It cannot be ruled out that, if this situation continues, we may move to the orange alert level” Minister for Civil Protection assuring that “the government, with its operational and scientific structures, constantly follows the situation, in continuous contact with local institutions” The statement comes after a few days of intense work between the national department, the Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology and the Major Risks Commission.

Volcanic soil is wonderfully fertile, so towns tended to spring up in such places. As Herculaneum found though there’s also a downside.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 8:28 am

feelthebern
Nov 1, 2023 8:13 AM

Keep in mind the Time piece on Ukraine might be full of fake quotes etc but reading the way his inner circle allegedly describe Zelensky, I am reminded of how some of Adam Neumann’s former execs described him.

Neumann is the founder & was the CEO of WeWork who wouldn’t accept reality & kept believing the biggest VC’s on the planet would keep backing him even when they told him no more money.

feelthebern

Heh name Meumann triggered memories of MAD Alfred E Neumann

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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 1, 2023 8:28 am

Breaking:

Gaza death toll reaches 4,000,000. Reports that 95% are children five years old and under.

Indolent
Indolent
November 1, 2023 8:30 am

This was the horror I linked to which was taken down.

Palestinian Professor on Baby in Oven: ‘With or Without Baking Powder?’

Crossie
Crossie
November 1, 2023 8:30 am

IDF spokesman Daniel Hagari said Hamas’ “main leader of combat” Ibrahim Biari was killed in Tuesday night’s strike on the Jabalia refugee camp.

At a press conference after the attack, Hagari told reporters that “many other terrorists” who were with Biari at the time were also killed.

How is it a refugee camp if it’s occupied by Hamas terrorists?

Roger
Roger
November 1, 2023 8:31 am

No “trick or treaters” in this neck of the woods.

😀

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 8:35 am

United States made it ‘perfectly clear’ it supports Israel’s efforts to ‘destroy’ Hamas

Former foreign minister Alexander Downer says Americans were “completely right” to throw all of their weight behind the Israelis following the October 7 massacre of Israelis by Hamas.

Earlier this month, Hamas launched a surprise attack on Israel after dozens of gunmen from the Palestinian militant group infiltrated southern Israel from the Gaza Strip and fired thousands of rockets as far north as Tel Aviv.

Mr Downer praised President Biden’s “forthright and constructive” decisions following the massacre of Israelis in early October.

“Behaviour like that is intolerable, and the Americans have made it perfectly clear they support the Israelis’ efforts to destroy Hamas,” Mr Downer told Sky News Australia.

“An organisation like that has to be destroyed like ISIS was destroyed.”

Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 8:35 am

Yesterday I saw a man in a Hannibal Lecter mask in the local shopping centre holding the hand of his 3-4 yo son who had something painted on his face. How would a child that young know what the mask meant or was it for the rest of the shoppers’ benefit?

Interesting question Clarice, please send these sorts of inquiries to Grigory!

Makka
Makka
November 1, 2023 8:36 am

IDF spokesman Daniel Hagari said Hamas’ “main leader of combat” Ibrahim Biari was killed in Tuesday night’s strike on the Jabalia refugee camp.

Hiding in a refo camp. Any minute now the PA will come out and condemn the cowardice and demand Hamas respect the safety of their civilians.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 8:38 am

AFR – Israel blames reported civilian deaths from air strike on Hamas

Gus McCubbing

An Israeli air strike is reported to have killed dozens of people at Jabalia refugee camp in northern Gaza, but an Israeli spokesman has blamed any civilian deaths on Hamas.

Gaza’s Hamas-run health ministry said at least 50 people were killed, while the Palestinian Red Crescent said its staff had recovered 25 dead civilians.

Israel Defence Forces spokesman Jonathan Conricus confirmed a strike was made to kill a Hamas commander but blamed any deaths from the attack on Hamas for using civilians as “human shields”.

“There was no strike on a refugee camp. We targeted a Hamas combatant who was hiding in a tunnel complex under civilian houses underneath the street,” Conricus told ABC.

“I understand there are reports of civilian casualties … I want to emphasise that the civilians are not out target.

“We focus on Hamas and it is because of Hamas practices using children and women and children as human shields that there are casualties because we strike militants.”

Makka
Makka
November 1, 2023 8:40 am

Keep in mind the Time piece on Ukraine might be full of fake quotes etc

If they are fake, they received CIA approval. Which is to say in all likelihood, Z is f*cked in any case.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 1, 2023 8:41 am

For those who would murder defenseless women and children there is a place in hell of unspeakable horrors and fire which tortures them, forever.

I am waiting for a Hamarse religious leader to say something like the above.

bons
bons
November 1, 2023 8:42 am

I am not a fan of definitive statements like ‘techtonic shift’ or ‘polarisation’ but I believe the arrival of the current Green/Liar Government has led to a very visible polarisation between the minority left and the majority citizens.

Most significant is that the Voice obscenity along with recently permitted moslem excesses and media contempt for public opinion have horrified the majority. The citizens have found a rare voice and the Left had better wattch out.

Albanese and his disgusting dyke are too stupid to realise that the citizens are the Liars only bulwark against Green encroachment. Drive enough citizens to the right and the Greens will eat Liar seats. This has, and is happening in QLD.

Albanese is too arrogant to realise the true negative meaning of the voice outcome. It wasn’t a true 60-40 split. Probably 40% of the yessers were just nice folks with no understanding of the ideology involved but who just wanted to do something good for aboriginals. That reality reverses the cry of the arrogant commentators that the Noers based their vote on ignorance. There is no comfort there for on-going Liar radicalism.

I believe that history will show that his refusal to support Israel will be the Liars death play. Albanese has never understood Australia. For him governing just requires bullying, just like in the local Party branch brawls.

I stick my neck out and claim that we are witnessing the beginning of the Liars’ demise. Owning their corrupt union super funds won’t save them.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 1, 2023 8:44 am

VicPlod news, Herald Sun:

Police say they are powerless to stop pro-Palestinian protesters from flying Hamas flags, chanting anti-Semitic slogans and comparing Jews to Nazis.

As concerns escalate over a spate of recent rallies, prominent Jewish leaders accused the force of continuing to ­ignore race hate laws.

Premier Jacinta Allan became emotional on Monday while talking about tensions in the Middle East and decrying hate speech of any type, but Deputy Commissioner Neil Paterson said protesters could not be stopped from unfurling hateful banners and performing anti-Semitic rallying cries.

I thought in the dying days of Premier Phuckface’s reign, there were laws passed which made this illegal?

It comes after pro-Palestinian supporters displayed a flag in Collins Place describing a local Jewish company as “war criminals” and protesters marched on Parliament House holding an image of ­Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s face morphing into Hitler.

“Police are aware of recent chants and banners at these rallies, and while they might be offensive to some, unfortunately they do not always constitute a criminal offence,” Mr Paterson said.

“Police can only act within the confines of the law and government has already acknowledged they will be reviewing the relevant legislation. When policing rallies our priority is to keep the peace and ensure the event is safe for those attending and the broader community.”

Pretty sure inciting the death of others is a rather grievous offence.

Community leaders met with Police Minister Anthony Carbines and Mr Paterson last week in a bid to encourage a stronger response to neo-Nazi and anti-Israel protests.

However, a legal letter seen by the Herald Sun, responding to a formal complaint about police inaction at an October 10 rally, Victoria Police’s legal department acting director Stephen Payne said the police response so far had been appropriate.

Seems like sitting on your arse allowing things to escalate is the course of action. Make no mistake, lives will be taken in due course on these shores.

And he implied police would act only where there was a threat of violence or property damage.

“The police role at a crowd control situation needs to consider the rights of members of the public to exercise free speech, peaceful assembly, protest and industrial action,” he said.

Which the anti forced vaccine crowd tried to do. With differing police action.

“However, police also aim to provide a safe, orderly and secure society, so when the actions of those taking part in such activities either become unlawful or infringe upon the rights of others, police will take appropriate action to prevent conduct involving violence to people or damage to property. This can include making arrests.

“I am satisfied that the ­actions of Victoria Police, which you raise, have been consistent with these considerations.”

The rest of us, particularly those of the Jewish faith, can rest easy now.

Police face accusations they are in breach of a 2008 agreement with a Jewish victim of crime that obliged all members “to uphold and enforce the rights of all people in Victoria not to be subjected to unlawful discrimination on grounds such as race, religion, sexual preference or gender”.

“We know from history that Australia is not immune from global acts of terrorism tied to Palestinian nationalism, as ­evidenced by the twin bombings of Israeli and Jewish institutions in Sydney in 1982,” the victim said.

“Waiting for further acts of terrorism to occur before responding is reckless and irresponsible. It is an abrogation of duty to protect the community and a dismissal of state and federal laws that make incitement unlawful.

“If flying Hamas flags and chanting ‘kill the Jews’ is not inciting hatred, what will it take for police to act?”

And if someone says “Gas Hamas” what would the penalty be?

Jewish leaders are calling on police to disperse protesters where there has been a breach of the peace, rather than simply moving them on.

Jewish Community Council of Victoria president Daniel Aghion said police did not have the powers they needed to protect the community.

“Hate speech should not be treated as any less, merely ­because it lacks an immediate threat to person or property,” he said.

“The state government has previously committed to reforming this area of law. Current events show the urgent need for that reform.

I would think Mr Aghion that they do have the required powers to protect the community. They just don’t want to.

Anti-Defamation Commission chairman Dvir Abramovich said the current approach would “end in tragedy”.

This cannot be allowed to continue, and we should not wait for someone to be violently beaten or killed before police officers step in,” he said.

“Freedom of expression does not mean the freedom to threaten, terrorise and incite to violence and I urge Victoria Police to use every tool in their legal arsenal to ensure that racists and white supremacists do not get a free pass.”

Victoria’s racial and religious vilification laws have long been criticised as setting too high a threshold for the prosecution of racists.

So there you have it. One can only conclude that police are on orders from on high that you stand down when shit like this happens rather than enforce the law. Wouldn’t have thought Jacinta Allen is off to the best of starts.

Indolent
Indolent
November 1, 2023 8:45 am

Someone seems to have come up with a bright idea. Mobile EV charging – with a generator, of course.

I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0

This guy is charging his EV with gas powered generator.

You just can’t make this stuff up.

Frank
Frank
November 1, 2023 8:46 am

If Israel was commo, then The Guardian would read like Pamela Geller.

The kibbutz was a pretty socialist setup wasn’t it. I remember reading that they had all wrapped up ages ago but apparently not.

Indolent
Indolent
November 1, 2023 8:46 am
Indolent
Indolent
November 1, 2023 8:46 am
Indolent
Indolent
November 1, 2023 8:47 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
November 1, 2023 8:47 am

“We know from history that Australia is not immune from global acts of terrorism tied to Palestinian nationalism, as ­evidenced by the twin bombings of Israeli and Jewish institutions in Sydney in 1982,” the victim said.

Can any Sydney Cat or Kitteh shed some light on this action? As far as I know it hasn’t been posted on these pages. I certainly know nothing about it.

Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 8:47 am

The counting hasn’t finished either.

People didn’t like the “well if you’re a good person you’ll vote the same as me otherwise you’re wrong!” schtick.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 8:48 am

Have a look at the Photo of Clementine Ford – You would not go near her, even with a 40 Ft Barge Pole – Cat Ladies – Why would a Woman do that to herself?

Astonishing moment feminist author Clementine Ford leaves Project hosts stunned by claiming marriage is ‘built on the oppression of women’

. Clementine Ford gives scathing view of marriage
. She said it was ‘built on the oppression of women’
. Feminist author stunned hosts of The Project

Roger
Roger
November 1, 2023 8:48 am

Origin Energy, KPMG, and Zoos Victoria and other Australian businesses purchased worthless “carbon credits” from international broker Verra which is now under investigation.

The credits have been used to offset emissions from Queensland electricity generation, housing construction in Brisbane, and “responsible travel” in Tasmania.

Zoos Victoria advertises itself as “carbon neutral”.

– ABC News

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 1, 2023 8:49 am
miltonf
miltonf
November 1, 2023 8:50 am

. Wouldn’t have thought Jacinta Allen is off to the best of starts.

Mother Russia MkII but even worse than the original. Kirner was actually a teacha and some interaction with real people for a while- Allen is just a life long apparatchik as far as I can tell.

Indolent
Indolent
November 1, 2023 8:50 am
Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 8:51 am

Police say they are powerless to stop pro-Palestinian protesters from flying Hamas flags, chanting anti-Semitic slogans and comparing Jews to Nazis.

This is just BS. They arrested a pregnant mother for organising a peaceful protest online. The VIK Plod CIB raided a former soldier who was live-blogging his legal battles. They beat up an autistic dude going for a walk. Because of a common cold.

If I were to give Allen a goose step and Seig Heil as to mock her and Andrews, I would be arrested.

They’re just lying because they don’t have the balls to say no.

Indolent
Indolent
November 1, 2023 8:53 am

People as cattle, with worldwide being the aim, of course.

Bill Gates Pushes Digital ID for Newborns in Kenya

Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 8:55 am

‘It’s a good question Waleed, well maybe the plan is to go for de facto relationships next,’ she said.

Translated: I think people ought to be compelled to be as miserable as me.

Economics is an obstacle for commies. It’s all really about them projecting their misery onto others.

bespoke
bespoke
November 1, 2023 8:56 am

Most significant is that the Voice obscenity along with recently permitted moslem excesses and media contempt for public opinion have horrified the majority. The citizens have found a rare voice and the Left had better wattch out.

Unfortunately bons it has inlisted the flight response in some. Blaming the show of support for Israel as provercation rather then blame the people that are committing the violence.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 1, 2023 8:56 am

Yesterday I saw a man in a Hannibal Lecter mask in the local shopping centre holding the hand of his 3-4 yo son who had something painted on his face. How would a child that young know what the mask meant or was it for the rest of the shoppers’ benefit?
Lecter is 2-D Hollywood replacing our 4-D myths and stories.
The kid don’t understand, specifically he don’t understand that he’s just being nudged along the slippery slope of antihumanism.
There’s no trick-or-treaters in this neck of the woods, because we’re out in the woods.

Makka
Makka
November 1, 2023 8:57 am

VicPlod news, Herald Sun

Vic fkg Plod. Is there any more loathsome despicable organisation in Vic? They hate anyone who is not in their gang and protect their vile maaates. This is not a Police Force. It’s a mafia family.

miltonf
miltonf
November 1, 2023 9:00 am

This is not a Police Force. It’s a mafia family.

they only go after ideological enemies

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 1, 2023 9:01 am

FMD OldOzzie surely this is a spam account because one would think that a foreign minister of a country which counts Israel as a great friend wouldn’t call them ‘settlers’.
Or indeed it is hers for which she must vacate any position that she holds.

miltonf
miltonf
November 1, 2023 9:02 am

Showing my ago BB but in 1982 a bomb went off at the Israeli Consulate building in William St Sydney. The Westfield Tower next to the Boulevard Hotel.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 1, 2023 9:03 am

A battery project and the lines of investment and influence run straight back to government planners.
You can’t make this shit up.

The facility is located in the heart of the proposes Murray River Renewable Energy Zone, and will facilitate a new terminal station between Wemen and Kerang.

The battery is the first investment in Australia for Sosteneo since its launch last month. The company is led by Frischknecht, and includes Nick Renshaw, formerly at Natixis, and former AEMO boss Audrey Zibelman sits on its board.

JC
JC
November 1, 2023 9:04 am

Did anyone know they had a Twitter account.

BREAKING: X has suspended the account of Hezbollah

Great, but what about the angry Iranian chief Mullah?

I think it’s wrong to cut them off. Let people hear what these loons have to say.

miltonf
miltonf
November 1, 2023 9:04 am

Miss Hardcastle would be totally enthralled by CRT.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 9:07 am

Man that is a Big Hole – Definitely something under the Buildings Bombed

Surprisingly not Paywalled

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/31/israel-gaza-latest-news-updates-hamas-palestine-day-25-live/

calli
calli
November 1, 2023 9:07 am
Cassie of Sydney
November 1, 2023 9:09 am

I remember the bombings.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 9:09 am

miltonf
Nov 1, 2023 9:00 AM

This is not a Police Force. It’s a mafia family.

they only go after ideological enemies

miltonf,

slight change to your statement above

they only go after Australian Labor Party ideological enemies

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 1, 2023 9:11 am

It’s all lies

The medical profession and the pharmaceutical industry have not been covering themselves with glory lately.

Over 200 health journals call on the UN & WHO to recognize ‘climate change’ as ‘a global health emergency’ (30 Oct)

Big Pharma all in on merging climate into health scare! CEO of AstraZeneca: ‘Climate emergency is the biggest health crisis of our time – bigger than Covid’ – ‘Radical action is needed on greenhouse gas emissions’ (30 Oct)

Doctors-committees call for Joint Global Health Emergency (even though global warming saves lives) (1 Nov)

Lately GPs seem to be widely breaking away from bulk billing. Mine introduced a $75 payment with Medicare repayment this year for the first time in 30 years. The practice hasn’t been busy. I suspect this is a sign that a lot of people are avoiding doctors. GWGB.

Makka
Makka
November 1, 2023 9:12 am

I copped a whack a while back here, expressing my zero sympathy for the 4 plods killed in that roadside accident. I didn’t and never will wish for their deaths, but I just don’t care that 4 plod died. Not after Vikplod’s brutal nasty aggression during covid. All empathy or respect for that nest of grubs is gone as far as I’m concerned.

You see why again here. After the happy tyrants beat up on innocent Viccos for many months, we now see how they behave in front of terrorist supporters;

“Police say they are powerless to stop pro-Palestinian protesters from flying Hamas flags, chanting anti-Semitic slogans and comparing Jews to Nazis.”

This our Victorian Police Force. Utter scum.

calli
calli
November 1, 2023 9:12 am

There was always the thought that the Central Synagogue was an arson attack, but the conclusion was a fault in the air con system.

It had everyone a bit jumpy. Of course, the garbage can through the shop window just threw itself there…as they do.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 9:13 am

As Against Australian Labor Foreign Minister Senator Penny Wong

Keir Starmer: Now is not the time for a ceasefire in Gaza

UK Labour Party leader warns a ceasefire right now would leave Hamas with the ability to repeat the October 7 massacre.

Keir Starmer, the leader of the British Labour Party, rejected calls to impose a ceasefire on Israel as it retaliates against Hamas for the massacre of over 1,400 Israelis on October 7.

“While I understand calls for a ceasefire at this stage, I do not believe that it is the correct position now for two reasons,” Starmer said. “One, because a ceasefire always freezes any conflict in the state where it currently lies. And as we speak, that would leave Hamas with the infrastructure and the capability to carry out the sort of attack on October the 7th.”

calli
calli
November 1, 2023 9:13 am

So do I Cassie. I attended a friend’s wedding at the old synagogue. It was beautiful.

The new one isn’t too bad either!

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 1, 2023 9:14 am

Thank you miltonf and calli. From calli’s link:

The two bombings occurred on the same day within five hours of each other. The initial case led to a single arrest though charges were later dropped.

It says NSW Plod tried reopening the case. Wowee a single arrest? Charges dropped?

JC
JC
November 1, 2023 9:18 am

Not after Vikplod’s brutal nasty aggression during covid. All empathy or respect for that nest of grubs is gone as far as I’m concerned.

Mark down Nov 1 2023 as the day we agree on something.

Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 9:20 am

What I mean to say is: Commies don’t care about being right or wrong with regards to economics.

They’re not really trying to deliver a worker’s paradise.

They’re trying to use a totalitarian state to project their insecurities onto us all. We may never exceed the low level of happiness their miserable, middling minds are capable of experiencing.

Yet, they’re still obsessed with material wealth, but were wrong all along.

So they tried to attack economics with “happiness” a couple of decades ago. That failed so they went for culture wars, DEI and intersectionality.

The most unhappy people of all, incapable of understanding how production occurs, criticising productivity as destroying happiness. Then moving onto radical theories so depressing they actually increase the suicide rates in those they are meant to help.

Their historical contribution to human endeavour is witness to their own personal failures, incompetence and lack of capacity.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 1, 2023 9:22 am

Police say they are powerless to stop pro-Palestinian protesters from flying Hamas flags, chanting anti-Semitic slogans and comparing Jews to Nazis.

Don’t they have tear gas and truncheons?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 9:23 am

Academics who pander to Hamas are useful idiots, says universities minister
Members of the University College Union approved a motion calling for a ‘mass uprising’ against Israel – Paywalled

By Louisa Clarence-Smith, EDUCATION EDITOR and Ewan Somerville

Academics are acting as “useful idiots” for Hamas, the universities minister has said.

Robert Halfon criticised lecturers on Tuesday after it emerged that members of the University College Union (UCU) at one institution in London had approved a motion calling for a “mass uprising” against Israel and “intifada until victory”.

Mr Halfon said the motion approved by academics at University College London was “appalling”.

He added: “A fifth column of Hamas’s ‘useful idiots’ [is] far too prevalent at some of our universities.”

Commenting on the UCU motion, the Union of Jewish Students, said: “This is a horrific incitement to violence and terror.”

The university has called on its local UCU branch to withdraw the statement, saying “language such as this has no place on a university campus”.

The controversy comes as King’s College London became embroiled in a row with its students over its failure to condemn Hamas, a proscribed terror group, for eleven days after the war broke out on Oct 7.

The university offered a “message of support” to students over “events in the Middle East” on Oct 9, but this failed to mention Hamas, and it was not until Oct 18 that the vice-chancellor Shitij Kapur condemned the “appalling attacks by Hamas”.

However, during these eleven days, academics at King’s College expressed public support for controversial pro-Palestine chants, symbols and protests.

King’s College’s branch of the Left-wing University and College Union, wrote a letter calling for such gestures – which Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary, has warned could amount to hate crimes – to be protected as “academic freedom, freedom of expression and freedom of protest”.

Their 700-word letter failed to make a single mention of Hamas.

Meanwhile, Dr Ingrid Kvangraven, a lecturer in international development at the university, retweeted a post on Twitter claiming that “what is happening today is rooted in over a century of British complicity with the colonisation of Palestine”.

Threat to Jewish students

In other posts, Dr Kvangraven celebrated pro-Palestine rallies and appeared to dismiss the concerns of Jewish students by writing that “apparently even trying to explain the political context of Hamas is a perceived threat to Jewish students”.

Aurele Tobelem, president of King’s College’s Israel Society, said he felt “frustration at the way in which pro-Palestinian voices on campus have seized control of the narrative on the Israel-Gaza issue” while the university “remained silent for more than a week”.

A King’s College spokesman said its “first priority is always the safety and wellbeing of our students and staff” and the dean and head of security had met with societies to provide support.

The spokesman added: “Any form of racism, antisemitism, Islamophobia, abuse, violence or harassment is unacceptable and has no place at King’s and we take reports of any such behaviour very seriously.”

In a statement, University College London’s UCU said it “explicitly condemns all attacks on civilians, including the attacks by Hamas on Oct 7 and subsequent assaults by the Israeli Defence Forces on Gaza and in the West Bank. We call for the immediate release of all hostages and an immediate ceasefire to prevent further casualties. This is our branch policy.”

Meanwhile, UCU accused Mr Halfon of using language which “adds to a hostile environment for academic freedom on campus”

The union said: “When cases of Antisemitism and Islamophobia are on the rise, Government ministers should think long and hard before calling university staff ‘a fifth column’.”

From the Comments

– Hey Metropolitan Police – policing by consent means the consent of the law abiding citizens, not the criminals.

Shoplifting is effectively decriminalised, rapes, burglaries & assaults are not investigated, organised criminal organisations like XR & JSO operate with police protection.

Now a bunch of idiot lefties actually put their name on a public document inciting violence and no is action taken.

You have become woke & soft, do your job for goodness sake or very soon the consent of law abiding citizens will be withdrawn. EDITED

– There is no such thing as islamophobia – there is simply a rational observation that most of the West’s problems these days are caused by Muslims.

– Many academics suffer from having never in their lives left school, knowing nothing of life outside the schoolroom and never experiencing real life. They now indoctrinate their students in the same way their lecturers indoctrinated them. Many are Marxist/Leninist/Trotskyist without realising that theirs is a failed dogma, yet to achieve even a glimpse of success. But then, how would they know that, being still at school?

– As a former student of KCL I am appalled but not surprised by this torrent of antisemitism wrapped in academic clothing.

There is and never shall be any historical, colonial, political, cultural or intellectual context for 7th. October.

Evil needs no justification or rationale to vent itself on the innocent: rape, mutilation, baby killing and incineration spring from the Satanic Verses!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 1, 2023 9:24 am

If I were to give Allen a goose step and Seig Heil as to mock her and Andrews, I would be arrested.

Quite safely, because the Garage Gay Grampians are, as they say, extremely ghey.

Whereas the chaps pointing the finger heavenwards are much more likely to commit serious public order offences with unpredictable career consequences.
And vote inappropriately.

It’s a policing by consent thing.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 1, 2023 9:24 am

I am actually thinking of setting up a Twitter account (or X-File) just so I can see all content.

No matter what else, it sounds a shed load more interesting than it used to because there are now two sides. Previously it was an echo chamber morphing into a star chamber.

Makka
Makka
November 1, 2023 9:25 am

Don’t they have tear gas and truncheons?

Vikplod only use those measures when dealing with grannies and pregnant mums.

Roger
Roger
November 1, 2023 9:25 am

Great summary, dot.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 9:29 am

Former Pittsburgh Penguins player dies after his throat was slashed by a skate in a ‘freak accident’ during a game

Adam Johnson, a US ice-hockey player, died after a skate cut his throat during a cup match on Saturday. He was 29.

Johnson was playing for the UK’s Nottingham Panthers against the Sheffield Steelers when the skate blade struck him in the neck.

Matt Petgrave ‘absolutely intended’ clash with Adam Johnson in ice hockey death, says ex-NHL star

Former player Sean Avery refused to agree with Fox News host Jesse Watters who suggested the incident looked like a ‘homicide’

Those closest to the horror have described the incident as a “freak accident”. Police launched an immediate investigation into the death, which left hundreds of spectators in tears at the Utilita Arena.

Canadian Avery played left wing for the Detroit Red Wings, Los Angeles Kings, New York Rangers and Dallas Stars during his 12-year career and his behaviour was often controversial, having led the league in penalty minutes twice, during the 2003-04 and 2005-06 seasons.

As Fox host Jesse Watters suggested Petgrave was a “dirty” player and said it looked like “homicide”, Avery said: “That’s a pretty dangerous word to be throwing around. I’ve watched it, it’s terrible, it’s tough to watch.

“Did this kid make a move that was very unorthodox? Do I think he was trying to make contact of some sort? Absolutely.”

Since the tragedy, teams in England have announced plans to make wearing neck guards mandatory.

“I saw the hit,” Avery said. “I saw the leg move. It shouldn’t have been where it was. It’s terrible. I can’t even watch the video back.”

Avery suggested the sport should reconsider the titanium thin blades that are currently on the bottom of players’ skates. He added: “Do I think he woke up and said I’m going to murder somebody today? No.”

Chris Therien, another Canadian former professional, also wrote on X that he was “literally appalled and sickened by what I saw”.

South Yorkshire Police, however, have urged the public against attempting to speculate around Johnson’s death. David Simms, the match announcer, said it had been “a horrible night at the arena; tragic”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 1, 2023 9:30 am

I think it’s wrong to cut them off. Let people hear what these loons have to say.

+1000

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 1, 2023 9:31 am

I am actually thinking of setting up a Twitter account (or X-File) just so I can see all content.

It’s the best aggregator of news outside of a Bloomberg terminal.

bespoke
bespoke
November 1, 2023 9:32 am

Makka
Nov 1, 2023 9:12 AM
I copped a whack a while back here, expressing my zero sympathy for the 4 plods killed in that roadside accident. I didn’t and never will wish for their deaths, but I just don’t care that 4 plod died.

OK but how do know those 4 weren’t as frustrated at what happened like the cops I’m acquainted with?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 1, 2023 9:32 am

I think you’re a bit mixed up there Knuckles. You’ve read how old our first nations cultcha is at the last count when the lake mungo scrolls were deciphered by that white fella goosey brucey pascoe the fake.

Rabz
November 1, 2023 9:34 am

multicultural London English, as voiced by Stormzy

AKA “Jafakain”.

Utterly excruciating. See also Ali G for a slightly more tolerable version and obvious pisstake.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 1, 2023 9:35 am

Great summary, dot.

Ditto, dot.

Hmmm. I hope that does not sound like Morse Code.

Cassie of Sydney
November 1, 2023 9:35 am

“There was always the thought that the Central Synagogue was an arson attack, but the conclusion was a fault in the air con system.”

I have always believed it was arson. It still remember seeing the flames. I was living in Bellevue Hill at the time. The old Central was a beautiful shul. I don’t like the one that replaced it….too glitzy.

Roger
Roger
November 1, 2023 9:35 am

Academics are acting as “useful idiots” for Hamas, the universities minister has said.

Another Tory Minister who says all the right things but what action will he take?

Granted, there are several administrative levels between him and university academics, but isn’t incitement to violence cause for dismissal?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 1, 2023 9:36 am

Haha, The Nude Aily is ailing nudely.

‘It’s a sinkhole’: The New Daily records another massive loss (Terror, paywalled)

As The New Daily notches up another seven-figure loss, it’s emerged that APRA has been asked to check if the website’s union-linked owners are abiding by rules meant to prevent super fund members’ cash being frittered away.

Competing with the Grauniad, Fauxfacts and the rest of the lefty MSM and I’m not at all surprised they’re bleeding out. Lefties don’t like paying for anything either, especially when they have free propaganda from ABC and SBS to enjoy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 1, 2023 9:36 am

Bruce Lehrmann fires back at Brittany Higgins after being named as Toowoomba rape accused

By joanna panagopoulos
Reporter
@JoannaPanagopo1
Updated 8:26AM November 1, 2023, First published at 7:17AM November 1, 2023

Former Liberal staffer Bruce Lehrmann says Brittany Higgins has a “total disregard” for how the justice system works and warned his team would be “considering their position’’ after she came out in support of a Queensland woman who has accused Mr Lehrmann of sexually assaulting her.

Mr Lehrmann, who was accused of raping Ms Higgins in Parliament House in 2021, was last week named as the “high-profile man” charged with the rape of a young woman he met in a Toowoomba strip club after the Supreme Court of Queensland lifted a suppression order that had protected his identity.

The 28-year-old woman alleges she Googled Ms Higgins’ rape case and recognised Mr Lehrmann as the person she had unprotected sex with her without consent in October 2021.
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Mr Lehrmann had introduced himself as “Bryce” when they met at the club, she told police, which was just a few weeks after he first appeared in court over allegations he raped Ms Higgins.

She said they had consensual sex the night they met but claims he failed to wear a condom without the permission when they had sex twice the next morning, which is considered sexual assault under Queensland law.

He is expected to plead not guilty to the charges.

Following the lifting of a non-publication order on the Toowoomba case last week, Ms Higgins posted on social media last saying her “heart broke” for the young woman at the centre of it.

“When I first found out about the alleged assault my heart broke for you,” she wrote on Instagram.

“To know that this has allegedly taken place while he was out on bail in 2021 is devastating. I note the fact you’ve decided to come forward despite seeing the horrific championing of this individual in the media all year. I am so, so sorry this allegedly happened to you.”

Ms Higgins clarified Mr Lehrmann was “charged with two counts of raping a woman in October 2021, with the case working its way through early committal proceedings at Toowoomba magistrates court since January”.

“He has not yet been committed to stand trial,” she wrote.

Ahead of a court mention for the Toowoomba matter on Wednesday, Mr Lehrmann put out a statement lashing Ms Higgins for her comments.

“The non-publication order we sought unsuccessfully last week would have ensured the subsequent prejudicial and often inaccurate reporting would not have occurred,” he said in the statement.

“In particular we have seen Ms Brittany Higgins blatantly prejudice a person’s right to a fair trial with a total disregard for how our justice system rightly operates with the presumption of innocence at its core.

“Her statement was public and widely reported.

“As such my team will be considering our position and the relief the justice system rightly has available to us now.

“The recent ACT Criminal Justice Inquiry and its findings should not be forgotten. The only verdict of any substance that’s been handed down this year was that of Mr Sofronoff’s condemnation of the behaviour of the DPP and Mr Shane Drumgold,” he said.

He will not be required to appear at court on Wednesday.

Makka
Makka
November 1, 2023 9:46 am

OK but how do know those 4 weren’t as frustrated at what happened like the cops I’m acquainted with?

Then why are they still in the gang?

Frustrated? They should be appalled and thoroughly disgusted.

Not sorry and no sympathy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 1, 2023 9:47 am

Comment, from the Oz.

ChatBot
17 minutes ago
(Edited)
All that Israel needed to have done, but ever refuses to do, is to leave the occupied territories and stop harassing the Palestinians – like the blockade of Gaza since 2005. Please leave the Palestinians alone – and all will fix itself. But no – Israel just can’t commit.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 1, 2023 9:48 am

Academics are acting as “useful idiots” for Hamas, the universities minister has said.

In Breaking News: Academics are like baby chickens, acting like “useful idiots” for any cause that walks in front of them.

(And, while we’re at it, someone rejoicing under the title ‘universities minister’ should consider the wisdom of commenting on ‘incomprehensibly stupid’.)

Anders
Anders
November 1, 2023 9:48 am

Deputy Commissioner Neil Paterson said protesters could not be stopped from unfurling hateful banners and performing anti-Semitic rallying cries.

Where, oh where, is mOnty the Nazi-puncher when he’s needed, must be a busy time in fantasy football at the moment.

bespoke
bespoke
November 1, 2023 9:49 am

She said they had consensual sex the night they met but claims he failed to wear a condom without the permission when they had sex twice the next morning, which is considered sexual assault under Queensland law.

She couldn’t say stop?

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 1, 2023 9:49 am

Yesterday I saw a man in a Hannibal Lecter mask in the local shopping centre

You can say what you like about Hannibal but he really knew his women’s fashions and perfumes.

Dot
Dot
November 1, 2023 9:50 am

About as credible as Abbie Chatfield’s attention seeking: I was horrifically raped but I refuse to name the man or report him to the police because he was young and basically did not have affirmative consent training.

The fact that she has not been “cancelled” for this nonsense shows that rape has been weaponised against men. No one actually cares about rapists being enabled (which I therefore doubt it happened).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 1, 2023 9:51 am

Having just stolen a hospital the ACT now wants to kill grannies.

ACT’s green light to nurses on euthanasia (Paywallian)

Nurses, social workers and counsellors will for the first time be able to initiate discussions about voluntary assisted dying as an option for terminally ill people in the ACT.

Perhaps ACT pollies could lead by example?

Roger
Roger
November 1, 2023 9:51 am

And, while we’re at it, someone rejoicing under the title ‘universities minister’ should consider the wisdom of commenting on ‘incomprehensibly stupid’.

Media shorthand.

Minister for Higher Education.

A lot on his plate, no doubt.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 1, 2023 9:52 am

Zelenskyy Official Admits, “People are stealing like there’s no tomorrow.”

October 31, 2023 – Sundance

The only people who deny financial corruption in Ukraine are those who benefit from it.

That group includes U.S. politicians who gleefully send billions of taxpayer funds into the country of Ukraine while capturing returns in the process.

U.S. advisors and consultants, along with private sector contractors and multinational corporations like Blackrock, are all beneficiaries of the vast sums of money being dumped into Ukraine. We all know this. So, on one hand it is simple to see why the Ukraine government officials would use the same opportunity to enrich themselves

After all, U.S. taxpayers are not only buying bombs, missiles and bullets with the money sent to Ukraine, we are also paying the salaries and pensions of the same government officials who are skimming the proceeds. The corruption is everywhere, and every entity is participating in the graft, in one form or another.

Zelenskyy’s wife goes shopping in Paris during the war. Where exactly do politicians think she is getting the money to spend on glitzy holiday vacations? Everybody knows exactly what is going on. The glaringly obvious theft is a large part of the contention the American people have with this insufferable effort to fund Ukraine.

During a lengthy Time Magazine article,

one of the close and key advisors to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy admitted that the corrupt stealing of US funds is widespread.

In addition to the theft, the overall tone of the Time Magazine article paints the war effort in Ukraine, what we have always called ‘World War Reddit’ for its mostly theatrical value, as a lost cause.

This is not surprising; however, for Time Mag to make such an admission, that does indicate a narrative shift in the overall effort.

And for those who Say BUT what is in the Time Article

Can be read here

‘Nobody Believes in Our Victory Like I Do.’ Inside Volodymyr Zelensky’s Struggle to Keep Ukraine in the Fight

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 1, 2023 9:53 am

Walking the dogs this morning, I passed a guy wearing a Tee with:

What do we want?
A cure for Tourette’s
When do we want it?
C**t

I seem to have a 12-year old’s sense of humour.

Real Deal
Real Deal
November 1, 2023 9:57 am

There was also a synagogue in Bankstown that was destroyed by fire in 1991. It was an amazing building shaped like the Star of David. Given that by 1991 there was a significant local immigrant population, perhaps it is no surprise who might have been responsible.

cohenite
November 1, 2023 9:58 am

What do we want?
A cure for Tourette’s
When do we want it?
C**t

Not bad. Here’s another one:

Wife got her test results back. We thought she had Tourette’s syndrome. Tests were negative.
Turns out I am a c..t and she does want me to fuk off.

bespoke
bespoke
November 1, 2023 9:59 am

Then why are they still in the gang?

Abandoning the institutions has its merits makka but not only way. Staying and attempting reform within is an alternative.

Real Deal
Real Deal
November 1, 2023 10:00 am

Any cats with knowledge of how to put your own picture avatar thingy in when you post? I like some of the pics like Calli’s, Roger’s, BoN’s, Rabz etc. How can you have your own picture?

Makka
Makka
November 1, 2023 10:02 am

Staying and attempting reform within is an alternative.

Don’t make me laugh, bespoke. Vikplod is too far gone for any reforms.

calli
calli
November 1, 2023 10:03 am

Real Deal, it’s .

Make sure all details are hidden though – you have to tick boxes to do so.

calli
calli
November 1, 2023 10:04 am

That’s odd. Link.

Roger
Roger
November 1, 2023 10:05 am

Promotional piece for a new book on Ulysses S. Grant.

From failed army officer and tannery hand to commanding general of the US Army, author of victory in the Civil War and POTUS, surely one of the most unlikely lives of the 19th C.

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