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All Souls Day in Rome, Jose Gallegos, late 19th century

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Pat Mac
Pat Mac
November 6, 2023 12:05 am

Evening, morning!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 6, 2023 12:12 am

The Chook throws the book at pesky pellet pelters:

The Palaszczuk government will introduce new legislation to ban the sale of bladed weapons and replica firearms (including gel blasters) to juveniles, in a commitment to “detect, disrupt, and deter” knife-related youth offending.

Politicians, having reached diminishing returns on the perennial campaign of “getting tough on hard drugs”, are now turning to the re-election strategy of “getting tough on soft pellets”.
The Qld Minister for Justice, speaking from the Labor party election campaign launch at the Laser Tag Association headquarters earlier this week, stated that no guttersnipe is above the law and his government would not be bought off.
The Palace Chook regime declared the new rules would save lives faces, citing a recent case of an innocent bystander being blasted into soggy embarrassment in a tragic gangland drive-by gelling, the 3rd such incident this century.
Speaking from a secret basement via encrypted Telegram channel before school with his Mum’s permission, the leader of the Kindermancheros BMX gang said “NNNNNNOOOO. I WANT MY GEL BLASTER. YOU SAID I COULD HAVE ONNEEEEE. 😠😠”
The Commissioner responded that police would not be intimidated by crooks or emojis and warned detention and writing out lines awaited anybody flouting the gel blaster rules.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 6, 2023 12:15 am

Turd again

caveman
caveman
November 6, 2023 12:31 am

🙂

Bruce in WA
November 6, 2023 1:39 am

Fifth … of November. Should’ve been letting off crackers and having a ball.

Damn you anally-retentive grubbermint!

Bruce in WA
November 6, 2023 1:40 am

Well, still the fifth here in WA anyway … 1964.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 6, 2023 1:44 am

According to the Daily Mail Sonny Bill Williams is not a fan of the Jewish people.

I guess being a devote Muslim means he has to show his true colours.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 6, 2023 1:48 am

Jon Levi.

5 Nov 2023

This video begins with a look at my first 10 videos. Part two moves to the world’s fair of Chicago. I think Part two is better than part one. There once was a taoist monk who faced a cave wall for 7 years.

Somewhere in Time (world’s fair action)

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 3:06 am

Are these OTs recycled? Seems very profligate.

Tom
Tom
November 6, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2023 4:08 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
November 6, 2023 4:47 am

Lots of footage of Palli’s landing in Sydney overnight.
Apparently people thought Gaza was a great place to go on holidays.
For a place described as an open air prison & a “modern day concentration camp”, that does surprise me.

Johnny Rotten
November 6, 2023 4:49 am

Many thanks Tom.

miltonf
miltonf
November 6, 2023 4:53 am

Canbra loves foreigners using Australia as a doormat such is its contempt for the people who pay for it all.

Gabor
Gabor
November 6, 2023 5:05 am

feelthebern
Nov 6, 2023 4:47 AM

Lots of footage of Palli’s landing in Sydney overnight.
Apparently people thought Gaza was a great place to go on holidays.
For a place described as an open air prison & a “modern day concentration camp”, that does surprise me.

You’d have to wonder if they are on a transferable pension of some sort?

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 6, 2023 5:11 am

JC, you better put on extra staff for the hotline.
Especially for New York Times readers.

If the election were held today, former President Donald Trump would easily beat President Joe Biden with over 300 electoral votes, according to a new swing state poll from The New York Times and Siena College.

https://www.axios.com/2023/11/05/trump-leads-biden-poll-nyt

Link to the Axios coverage as the NYT is paywalled.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 6, 2023 5:52 am

Baris reminds us that if the NYT poll is saying it’s a Trump sweep of the swing states, it means it’s actually worse (for Biden).

Rich Baris “The People’s Pundit”
@Peoples_Pundit

NYT was not the most accurate 2020 poll. Biden led Trump in all of those states, even in Iowa, Ohio and Florida.

Michigan: Biden +8
Nevada: Biden +6
Arizona: Biden +6
Wisconsin: Biden +11
Pennsylvania: Biden +6
Georgia: Tie (45)

Ohio: Biden +1
Iowa: Biden +3
Florida: Biden +3

132andBush
132andBush
November 6, 2023 6:17 am

Bern,

Lets hope these polls aren’t being skewed to favour a certain outcome.

That is; Trump beats Biden so nominate Trump.

Biden will not run.

Petros
Petros
November 6, 2023 6:18 am

Hacker gets the digital ID data for 800 million Indians. The weak links will be all the companies and organisations that use the digital ID data. Link here.

Cassie of Sydney
November 6, 2023 6:26 am

Apparently people thought Gaza was a great place to go on holidays.
For a place described as an open air prison & a “modern day concentration camp”, that does surprise me.”

Yeah, funny that.

bespoke
bespoke
November 6, 2023 6:35 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
November 6, 2023 6:38 am

There needs to be some kind of reform with takeover situations like this.
It’s Sydney Airport all over again.

Origin Energy’s biggest shareholder, AustralianSuper, rejected the opportunity to join Brookfield and EIG in their $18.7bn takeover of the power giant, before making a late move to explore joining the consortium, a fresh twist in one of the nation’s biggest corporate deals.

Also, by definition, a situation like this favours one cohort of Australian Super customers over another.
Which is illegal.

bespoke
bespoke
November 6, 2023 6:41 am
Dot
Dot
November 6, 2023 6:56 am

Four years of this nonstop COVID nonsense soon and also five years of the earliest known COVID sample in Western Europe.

There’s part of me that wants it good and proper until people learn to vote the same people who did this last time out of office.

Are they actually teachable? Are they capable of learning? Have control systems like mass media programming , Bernaysian propaganda and Prussian style education conformity imprinting made this impossible?

Crossie
Crossie
November 6, 2023 7:12 am

bespoke
Nov 6, 2023 6:41 AM
MASK MANDATES OFFICIALLY RETURN IN CALIFORNIA

It will certainly make the Chinese manufacturers happy.

Cassie of Sydney
November 6, 2023 7:19 am

Last night, on his weekly Sky programme, Cory Bernardi gave a withering editorial on ARC, aka the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship, a ‘right of centre’ conference held in London last week, a conference which attracted the high, the mighty and the not so high and mighty from across the globe.

Bernardi wasn’t putting down the conference, or its founder Jordan Peterson. No, no, no, such conferences are great. Rather he was scathing about some of the attendees, almost all current and former politicians who were once (or still are) in positions of power to do something about the societal collapse we’re now facing, familiar names such as John Howard, Tony Abbott, Michael Gove, Miriam Cates Scott Morrison and others, yet who did nothing whilst in power or who are doing nothing now. Bernardi was right in his scathing piece last night, for too long we’ve elected men and women such as the aforementioned above, assuming they will speak and act on behalf of the voters that put them into office, yet they do no such thing, instead they they become emasculated puppets.

The betrayal is huge, and this betrayal has directly contributed to the fact that we now have a society fracturing, and we have people on the streets who openly support a terrorist organisation that rapes/kidnaps and slaughters Jews, and would do the same here if they could.

It’s worth reminding readers here that the UK currently has a Conservative government, a government that first came to office in 2010. Thirteen years is quite a long time. And what does it show for its governance of thirteen years? Well, since 2010, this Conservative government has simply operated as a pale left-wing government, and has done nothing to wind back any of the damaging Blair/Brown policies of big government, particularly around immigration. So, we now have a situation where, in 2023, the UK is taking in over 600,000 legal immigrants per year and who knows what the figures are for illegal immigration, almost all of which emanates from shitholes such as sub-Saharan Africa and Afghanistan. Just dandy! As Rafe Heydel-Mankoo says, since 1997 when Tony Blair began to open the floodgates, the UK has had more immigration in a little over twenty years than it had over the prior two thousand years. It’s pretty shocking. And remember, it took over three years for the Conservative government to implement Brexit, and then only a clayton’s Brexit, the UK is still subject to numerous EU courts and laws. We saw what happened after Boris Johnson won a huge eighty seat majority, he then went on to squander the mandate with Covid, with net zero, with parties with Carrie. Who can forget how, in July 2020, he and most in his government (though not all) could not or would not say a word about the George Flloyd riots in London and other UK cities, when plod were taking the knee, when statues of Churchill and other British heroes were being attacked and vandalised. And now, in 2023, we have Hamas supporters on London’s streets, they’re not even afraid to show their allegiance to a terrorist organisation that rapes and murders Jews. The chance was in 2020, when Boris could have stood firm, a la Macron, and say NO, you don’t take the knee to the Marxist organisation called BLM, you don’t vandalise our statues, this is our history and we are proud of our history. But instead there was silence, cowardice. And now London is no longer a safe place for Jews and won’t be safe very soon for anyone else.

As for the OZ speakers, we don’t get off lightly, in attendance were three of our very own former PMs, John Howard, Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison. I will write here just some of the issues that these three former PMs chose to ignore, either out of spinelessness or because they couldn’t be bothered, Section 18C, ABC, climate lunacy, religious freedom, free speech, Covid hysteria, SSM, George Flloyd protests, transgender gunk and on and on it goes. I probably should exempt Howard from such savage criticism, although he was behind Turnbull’s rise, and as far as I’m concerned, he must shoulder that blame for the rest of his life. However I will critique both Abbott and Morrison. As PMs, I regard their tenure as more than disappointing.
We had Abbott supinely caving in on 18C. And then we had Scott Morrison, a PM whose tenure I happen to regard as disastrous, and I cannot understand why he would show his face at a conference such as ARC, when he was intimately involved in and responsible for the two years of tyrannical Covid restrictions, when during that time he said nothing about ordinary Australians being beaten, bashed and bludgeoned on the streets, when he did nothing about religious freedom, or free speech for that matter, in fact I remember his words about free speech…

“‘It doesn’t create one job’

Both Abbott and Morrison talk the good talk, but when provided the opportunity, neither walked that talk. I think that both should STFU.

Dot
Dot
November 6, 2023 7:29 am

The COVID virus is actually a specialised immune T helper cell of a previously unknown parasite. It works in a similar fashion to T gondii but at a societal level.

The fluke Bidenensis delawarius feeds off head lice in small children (primarily black and white) to produce hormones when endocrine systems shut down from mid life to gerontolicity but receives most of its nutrients from sending parasitical pathogens which mimic human infecting spherical virus like particles. The process of infection sees a lowering of IQ, executive function and heightened agreeableness and belief in authority figures, as well as morbidity in the obese and a loss of our precious bodily fluids.

These specialised B delawarius T helper cells have a amensalic relationship with the North American orange oaf T magagenesis. The nutrients are parasitically processed using T magagenesis at the later stages of the T helper cell life cycle before they return to B delawarius along with genetically unmarked cells harvested from miniature clones of B delawarius that reproduce but not as B delawarius but can act as surrogate progeny of another B delawarius or congeners in its genus.

The reference is Modern Political Ecology edited by John H and Dot D.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 6, 2023 7:33 am

Cassie On Fire!!!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2023 7:37 am

And then we had Scott Morrison, a PM whose tenure I happen to regard as disastrous

Sadly true. On the other hand he’s taken the opportunity to visit Israel on the way home.

Former Australian PM to Arutz Sheva: ‘Never again means – never again’ (5 Nov)

Former Israeli Ambassador to the UN MK Danny Danon hosted former British PM Boris Johnson and former Australian PM Scott Morrison in Israel today.

During the visit, Morrison spoke with Arutz Sheva – Israel National News about his expectations that the world decry the Hamas invasion of Israel.

“‘Never again’ means just that,” Morrison said. “Israel’s right to self-defense is the right to ensure that things like this cannot happen again.”

He also opposed the trend of world opinion shifting against Israel: “We all say it, but it’s at times like these that it’s important to come here and reinforce that commitment.”

Well said Mr Morrison. Israel needs all the support they can get.

Tom
Tom
November 6, 2023 7:42 am

Former managing editor of The Australian, Chris Mitchell, explains the appalling bias and ignorance of the Australian news media over Israel:

Journalists who believe Hamas is fighting for Palestinian independence need to read the Hamas charter and study the rise of 20th century Islamism and its close association with anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.
Hamas is a child of the Muslim Brotherhood, founded in Egypt in 1928. Its intellectual godfather, Sayyid Qutb, like Adolf Hitler, was heavily influenced by the Tsarist anti-Semitic forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which sees Judaism as a plot for world domination via the banking system, media ownership and international capitalism.
The anti-Jewish sentiments expressed in the original Hamas charter of 1988 come from the Brotherhood and actually predate even the establishment of the State of Israel by two decades. Islamists influenced by the Brotherhood already hated Jews before the Nazis took power in Germany.
Such Islamist groups would arguably be just as anti-Semitic even if the UN had not proposed the establishment of the Jewish State in Resolution 181 in 1947.
Hamas, like its financial sponsor Iran, is also a hotbed of Holocaust denial. Hamas went through a protracted dispute with the UN in 2009 when the UN tried to implement school curriculum changes that would teach young Palestinians about the Holocaust. The United Nations Relief and Works Agency runs more than 200 of Gaza’s 600 primary and secondary schools.
Today’s Iranian leadership, while less forthright than its predecessors on Holocaust denial, continues to sponsor Holocaust denier conferences. This is unsurprising given the Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini, who led the 1979 Iranian Revolution against the Shah of Persia, was a vehement Holocaust denier.
President from 2005-13, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was even more fanatical on the subject. It is important for journalists reporting on Gaza to understand many of the region’s Muslim Imams and political leaders continue to believe The Protocols is a serious work of history, despite having been debunked for 100 years. This is the document that informs their view of Jews.
Hamas and Iran are more interested in killing Jews than they are in helping Palestinians. How else to explain Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzouk last week telling an Arabic interviewer who asked why Hamas would not shelter civilians in its network of tunnels that it was not up to Hamas to build bomb shelters or share tunnels built for war. This was work for UN refugee agencies and nothing to do with Hamas, which was nevertheless elected to govern Gaza in 2006.
Yet ABC reporters continue their decades-long tradition of ignoring questions Hamas should be asked, even though in the Arab world such questions are being raised.
Hamas official Ghazi Hamad told LBCI International Television in Lebanon last week that Hamas “will repeat the October 7 attack (on civilian Israelis) time and again until Israel is annihilated. We are victims. Everything we do is justified.”
Credit to Sharri Markson on Sky News last Wednesday for playing a clip from Egyptian journalist Ibrahim Eissa raising the question the ABC seems incapable of discussing when reporting strikes by Israel in Gaza.
Eissa, editor in chief of the Cairo daily, Al Tahrir, and founder of the weekly Al-Dustour, asked: “Hamas has controlled and governed Gaza since 2007. In those 16 years, Hamas has built two Gaza strips. The Gaza which we know and the Gaza under – made of tunnels. Didn’t you think to make one shelter? One shelter? One? Thousands of kilometres of tunnels. And this organisation has spared the Palestinian people from even one. Sixteen years you engaged the Palestinian people in seven to eight wars and you didn’t even make one tunnel for them. You could have saved families. You could have saved infants. From certain death. So who is committing the crimes against the Palestinian people?”
ABC RN Breakfast host Patricia Karvelas bristled last Wednesday morning when Israel Defence Forces international spokesman Colonel Jonathan Conricus said Israel was not targeting civilians in the Jabalia refugee camp in northern Gaza but the Hamas terrorist leaders hiding in the tunnels beneath it.
Like many Western journalists, Karvelas seemed to struggle with what Conricus told her: Israel knew where the terrorists were hiding and that’s why it had for several weeks been urging civilians to move south for their own safety. It was Hamas that was making it difficult for civilians to leave.
Journalists educated at modern universities dominated by theories of post-colonialism and the power dynamics of language struggle with the idea radical Islamism is more than a fight for the displaced people of the Middle East. Islamism and its celebration of Jihad and martyrdom are foreign to modern Western thought.
This column on October 14 discussed the link between Hamas and Nazism going back to the 1941 meeting between the then Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin Al-Husseini, and Adolf Hitler. It did not explore the wider anti-Semitism rampant across the Middle East.
Hamas’s original 1988 charter, especially Chapter 7, sees Israeli Jews as having rejected the influence of Islam in the former British protectorate of Palestine. Hamas knows full well the Jews were there thousands of years before Islam began, but it sees its role as purging any group denying its Muslim heritage. It calls Israel a Maqf and the charter is strident about returning every Maqf to the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed.
Hamas is at once Palestinian, Arabic and Islamist. In its world view, any Palestinian state would need to embrace Islamism. The horror of Hamas’s barbaric attack on Jewish women, children and old people in southern Israel on October 7 is not an aberration. It’s what the group actually stands for in its formal charter.
Quillette last week published an English translation of an interview in German with the Swiss Daily Neue Zurcher Zeitung. It discussed the massacre in Israel with New York author Paul Berman who wrote The New York Times bestseller Terror and Liberalism after the 9/11 World Trade Centre attacks by al-Qa’ida.
Berman says: “I consider it a mistake to interpret Hamas solely as a local nationalist movement. The establishment of a conventional Palestinian state would not satisfy their demands … The ultimate goal of Islamism is to establish a certain type of Islam throughout the Muslim world.
“Here is a movement, Hamas, that is openly committed to a racist and genocidal ideology. But many people do not want to let go of their idea that the world is a place where there are simple causes and effects, and the causes are always material, and doctrines do not count for anything. People are blind to the ideology at work here. You can see it in the media, which are often naive.”
This is where Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was correct in his speech last week: “Today we draw a line between civilisation and barbarism.”
The Holocaust is the most evil act in human history because, rather than a war crime, it was a government implementing an industrial scale murder machine designed to eliminate Jews. It is not comparable with Israel rooting out terrorists from Gaza after warning civilians to leave.
Good on Karvelas on Friday morning for challenging UN human rights rapporteur Francesca Albanese over UN claims of genocide by Israel against Palestinians. Genocide has a formal legal meaning and Palestinians are the fastest growing demographic in Israel, the West Bank and Gaza.
This is not to deny every Palestinian death is a tragedy, but it is a tragedy brought on deliberately by Hamas’s barbarism.

Link.

Vicki
Vicki
November 6, 2023 7:42 am

Achieving the top job seems to corkscrew the mental apparatus of some Lib PMs. Cassie mentions Abbott & Morrison amongst them. Both were a big disappointment. I have said here on previous occasions that I heard Morrison deliver an inspirational speech about Australian values at the Sydney Institute well prior to his leadership role. Similarly, Abbott impressed so many as the standout representative if Lib values prior to becoming PM. But once in the top job these guys want to satisfy the claims of all sides & fatally forget to fulfil the expectations of their supporters.

Cassie us right – the failure to oppose 18C was unforgivable. Similarly, Morrison abandoned all recognition of individual rights & freedom during the pandemic. These are basic tenets for all conservatives. Once again, we will watch carefully which pollies take a stand on one of the great moral issues of our time that is developing as a result of the atrocities of 7/10.

Crossie
Crossie
November 6, 2023 8:01 am

Bernardi wasn’t putting down the conference, or its founder Jordan Peterson. No, no, no, such conferences are great. Rather he was scathing about some of the attendees, almost all current and former politicians who were once (or still are) in positions of power to do something about the societal collapse we’re now facing, familiar names such as John Howard, Tony Abbott, Michael Gove, Miriam Cates Scott Morrison and others, yet who did nothing whilst in power or who are doing nothing now.

Cassie, I have a different view. I consider the presence of the three former PMs as an insulation against the sort of accusations of fascism that were levelled at CPAC conferences. I expected that the London venue owners would be pressured to cancel the booking but were dissuaded by their presence. We may be mightily ticked off with these former PMs but they are doing something useful now and their presence has given the conference a certain weight it may not have had otherwise. The very fact that the conference went ahead is a coup for the right side of politics and we should celebrate it, let’s not pine for perfection.

WolfmanOz
WolfmanOz
November 6, 2023 8:03 am

Cassie of Sydney
Nov 6, 2023 7:19 AM

Hear hear !

It’s a pity this can’t get a run in the Oz.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2023 8:06 am

Psychiatry has been curing imaginary diseases ever since Freud first found his Id.

Wash Post advice column from psychiatrist promotes psychedelics for solving ‘eco-anxiety’, ‘climate grief’ (5 Nov)

In the piece, Willow claimed this kind of treatment, applied using either psilocybin (derived from psychedelic mushrooms), MDMA, or FDA-approved oral ketamine – coupled with psychotherapy sessions – can help people deal with their grief over climate change.

“Psychedelic medicine-assisted therapy also can support a patient in exploring the enormous and complex feelings associated with eco-anxiety and climate grief,” she wrote.

According to the psychiatrist, this anxiety is so widespread that “climate mental health” is considered a new field in her profession, which she added, “covers a broad spectrum of emotional and psychological responses.”

Yep, magic mushrooms will no doubt fix it, and if that doesn’t work there’re always those other mushrooms. Quite palatable in beef wellington, I hear.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
November 6, 2023 8:08 am

Colonel Crispin Berka
Nov 6, 2023 12:12 AM
The Chook throws the book at pesky pellet pelters:

The Palaszczuk government will introduce new legislation to ban the sale of bladed weapons and replica firearms (including gel blasters) to juveniles, in a commitment to “detect, disrupt, and deter” knife-related youth offending.

Yes! Because laws against crime will make intended criminals stop committing crimes.

If you intend to stab someone, knowing you have an illegal knife will give you second thoughts.

No, sounds stupid any way I write it. Do these pollies ever think about what they do?

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 6, 2023 8:13 am

….for too long we’ve elected men and women such as the aforementioned above, assuming they will speak and act on behalf of the voters that put them into office…….

It should be obvious to all by now that our politicians have long since ceased to be our representatives and have become our rulers.

Crossie
Crossie
November 6, 2023 8:14 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Nov 6, 2023 8:06 AM
Psychiatry has been curing imaginary diseases ever since Freud first found his Id.

Wash Post advice column from psychiatrist promotes psychedelics for solving ‘eco-anxiety’, ‘climate grief’ (5 Nov)

And just like that we are back to the 60s.

Cassie of Sydney
November 6, 2023 8:15 am

“Psychiatry has been curing imaginary diseases ever since Freud first found his Id.

I never knew you were a follower of L. Ron Hubbard.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 6, 2023 8:16 am

During the visit, Morrison spoke with Arutz Sheva – Israel National News about his expectations that the world decry the Hamas invasion of Israel.

IMHO, the first rule which all ex PMs should adopt is ‘when you are no longer the PM, STFU…’

This is one way in which Gillard (shudder) has performed better than Howard, Keating, Scomo etc etc.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 6, 2023 8:16 am

Great analysis as usual Cassie. Howard’s connivance in Trumble’s ascension to power is unforgivable. Howard seemed to get on pretty well with bLIAR and Bush which says a lot.

Gabor
Gabor
November 6, 2023 8:17 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Nov 6, 2023 8:06 AM

Yep, magic mushrooms will no doubt fix it, and if that doesn’t work there’re always those other mushrooms. Quite palatable in beef wellington, I hear.

Yes, and if they don’t want to eat them, clobber them.

Aaron
Aaron
November 6, 2023 8:18 am

Just over two decades after 9/11.

Just unbelievable.

Dot
Dot
November 6, 2023 8:19 am

I consider the presence of the three former PMs as an insulation against the sort of accusations of fascism that were levelled at CPAC conferences.

These people are fascists. No I’m not kidding, definitions matter and I can PROVE IT with concrete examples.

They disappointed you in nearly every way possible.

They do not even represent a mild and unambitious form of conservatism the Australian Conservatives had as a policy platform.

Howard took away common law rights to firearms and signed up to the Kyoto treaty. Tony Abbott went along with Brandis’ stupid modern, progressive approach to controlling speech. Morrison was totally on board with lockdowns, government in secret and by edict without Parliamentary supervision. Cost of living became an issue as regulation increased and the tax burden crept up.

You have less in common with these careerists than you realise.

We know what fascism means. We don’t need to be bullied by progressives. Modern progressivism and lip service conservatives pave the way forward for fascism. Bring for normalcy, freedom etc isn’t fascism and it never will be. We must never let them take to language as how the Soviets let Lysenko cripple Soviet sciences.

The ex PMs were a deadweight to the conference.

Bernardi is right. As time goes by, my scathing criticism of him subsides and now I suspect Col Bat Guano was put there by Trumble (Howard’s little mate) to blow up the ACP. The timing was coordinated with/after the new Senate voting laws (which the Greens voted with the LNP on the matter to pass it in the Senate) which come in after minor right wing parties got “too many” votes.

Cassie of Sydney
November 6, 2023 8:20 am

“Cassie, I have a different view. I consider the presence of the three former PMs as an insulation against the sort of accusations of fascism that were levelled at CPAC conferences.”

Nah, both Tony Abbott and John Anderson attended and gave talks at the CPAC conferences, along with other Coalition MPs.

Scott Morrison hasn’t appeared at CPAC because he’d be booed off stage…and rightly so.

And ARC has been smeared as a conference of the far-right, by the likes of the Guardian and all the rest of the far-left scum.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 6, 2023 8:24 am

Been demolishing my pizza oven. Its taking longer than to build it. Daughter has been doing most of it. The concrete deck required a breaker. The thing stopped working, I took the cover off to inspect the brushes to find one of them not in contact with the commutator. Grandson is watching intently. I explained how the motor worked. He was fascinated. When he got home told his dad how motors work with the electricity coming down the cord and through there and round about. Apparently involved a lot of hand movements and wooshing sounds. 3yo full bottle. We’ve got a cubbyhouse for him but its no longer a cubbyhouse instead a workshop where he fixes things. Life is wonderful for some of us at least.

Dot
Dot
November 6, 2023 8:25 am

The Black Israelite Scientologists bit by Eric Andre will never get old.

L RON HUBBARD, WAS A BLACK MAN!

(Truth!)

HIS REAL NAME, WAS L RON HOYABEMBE!

(Hallelujah!)

IF YOU REALLY ARE THE SECOND CONING OF JESUS CHRIST, TAKE THIS DOG POOP ON THIS SIDEWALK AND TURN IT INTO WINE!

(Turn that poop, into wine! Turn that poop, into wine! Turn that poop, into wine!)

I would say Eric Andre was clowning both groups, but it might remind some here of Kenja.

Indolent
Indolent
November 6, 2023 8:25 am

It’s worth reminding readers here that the UK currently has a Conservative government, a government that first came to office in 2010. Thirteen years is quite a long time. And what does it show for its governance of thirteen years?

It’s much worse than that. On their way out the door they’ve just passed the Online Safety Act and Energy Act, the one which authorises them to break down your door to install a smart meter and replace your hot water heater. What worse could Labor do?

shatterzzz
November 6, 2023 8:27 am

You’d have to wonder if they are on a transferable pension of some sort?

Quite likely. nowadayz you can only live OS on an OAP pension (minus the energy allowance of around $70 f/n) but not a ‘rorters’ pension issued after 2020 .. pre 2020 you could take your “rorters” & live anywhere you fancied .. when they introduced the new rules they didn’t make them retrospective so anyone already living OS was exempted and just carried on as normal .. unless they came back to Oz then the new rules apply ….
Don’t think they’d be many career opportunities in Gaza so very doubtful any coming in are displaced “wukkas” …..
An OAP is allowed 6 weeks OS per year without loss of anything but a ‘rorter” getz cut off comletrely after 2 weeks OS & needs to re-apply ………!

rosie
rosie
November 6, 2023 8:28 am

Last night I found another article that confirmed 12 year old Noya Dan and her grandmother had been kidnapped and taken into Gaza then killed and their bodies dumped near the border.
The body of seventeen year old Ruth Peretz has finally been located.
jpost

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 6, 2023 8:29 am

Six dead from the Daylesford prang now.

Bloody hell.

Indolent
Indolent
November 6, 2023 8:30 am
Crossie
Crossie
November 6, 2023 8:35 am

And ARC has been smeared as a conference of the far-right, by the likes of the Guardian and all the rest of the far-left scum.

Vilification is par for the course with those publications, I was more worried that the whole conference was going to be scrapped in the interests of public peace seeing as what else was happening in London with the Anti-Semite Inc protests. I’m still convinced that due to the former PMs’ presence London authorities didn’t want to spark a diplomatic incident and start a republican debate instead, not that any of the attendees would go in that direction but would certainly be taken up by Labor.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 6, 2023 8:38 am

I once shifted a pizza oven, by crane. Timber archform to support, car jacks under that, concrete saw to cut the legs off. Me and the crane bloke scratched our chins for a long time, reckoned it was about 1.5 tonnes- it was nearly 4. Fairly messed up the grass swinging it around, putting it down on sleepers, moving the crane for another grab, four grabs before it was on its new pad. Then I built a new chimney with stacked-out ledge, mortar top and tunnel cap- wife strung fairy lights out to it, and it fell off.

Indolent
Indolent
November 6, 2023 8:40 am
Gabor
Gabor
November 6, 2023 8:40 am

Knuckle Dragger
Nov 6, 2023 8:29 AM

Six dead from the Daylesford prang now.

Shocking.
Any news of the driver?

bons
bons
November 6, 2023 8:43 am

The Times of Israel is reporting that yeshiva students have been locked in to prevent them from jumping the fence and joining up.

Possibly just anti ultra orthodox propaganda. On the other hand you would imagine that a number of these young people would be motivated to get into the fight.

Crossie
Crossie
November 6, 2023 8:43 am

Annelise Nielsen reports on Sky from US that the Republican primary is about to “ramp up”. This reporter, even though pretty, is barely sentient and receiving her pay on false pretences. Nobody watches any of the Republican debates and they change nothing, it will be Trump even if jailed, Nikki Haley is not happening and neither is DeSantis.

rosie
rosie
November 6, 2023 8:44 am

It’s terrific that muslim ideology is being laid bear for all to sea, dealing with that road will take more than a hoe.
Their hatred of the great satan US is ranked just below their hatred of Israel.
US eyes that were half shut should be wide open.
Every intelligence agency must be doing triple time as the world wide terror threat ramps up.
Muslims already claim US troops are embedded with the IDF.

Crossie
Crossie
November 6, 2023 8:47 am

Indolent
Nov 6, 2023 8:42 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Demand for ‘unvaxxed’ sperm spikes: Women are turning to shady Facebook groups looking for donors who refused to get the Covid shot

A belly laugh! Who will vouch for the donors?

bespoke
bespoke
November 6, 2023 8:48 am

wife strung fairy lights out to it,

I have the same problem, wally. If she starts talking about dreem catchers resist before it is to late.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 6, 2023 8:48 am

Any news of the driver?

66 year old from a nearby town, apparently.

Dot
Dot
November 6, 2023 8:50 am

Indolent
Nov 6, 2023 8:42 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Demand for ‘unvaxxed’ sperm spikes: Women are turning to shady Facebook groups looking for donors who refused to get the Covid shot

Told ya. It’s like walking around with a case of bullion.

Where are the unvaxxed women though?

They don’t exist.

Indolent
Indolent
November 6, 2023 8:50 am
Indolent
Indolent
November 6, 2023 8:52 am
Indolent
Indolent
November 6, 2023 8:54 am

This is what they’re trying to slip in under the general chaos. Nothing less than digital slavery.

UN Backs WEF’s Push for Global ‘Digital IDs’ by 2030

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 6, 2023 8:57 am

Well, that’s not quite the engineer’s report in full.
Fairy lights were on a 2mm tomato trellis wire- all of a 3 newton breaking strain- a septic truck drove through that, and it dragged the stack down.

Indolent
Indolent
November 6, 2023 9:03 am

Fully-Vaxxed New Zealand Suffers 3000% Spike in Excess Deaths

But

However, evidence has now emerged that the government secretly granted exceptions to elites who didn’t want to get vaccinated or be locked in their mansions.

The hypocritical vaccine exemptions for the elite were granted by former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s government before she stood down and accepted a new role as the World Economic Forum’s global “disinformation czar.”

Ardern’s decision to allow the elite to refuse the vaccine while forcing the vax on normal people was revealed by an Official Information Act (OIA) request.

Frank
Frank
November 6, 2023 9:06 am

It’s like walking around with a case of bullion.

Lucky me, can’t imagine they will be happy when I try to buy a car with it though.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 9:08 am

This is one way in which Gillard (shudder) has performed better than Howard, Keating, Scomo etc etc.

Alternatively, she has decided there is nothing in that legacy worth defending. SloMo should consider this.

Indolent
Indolent
November 6, 2023 9:08 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 9:10 am

feelthebern

Nov 6, 2023 6:38 AM

There needs to be some kind of reform with takeover situations like this.
It’s Sydney Airport all over again.

Careful.
That sort of talk triggers JC.
And also Sancho a little bit too.

Dot
Dot
November 6, 2023 9:11 am

Chortle.

Frank – you win.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 6, 2023 9:16 am

A public school in Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s inner west electorate has attracted condemnation from a leading ‘No’ campaigner for quizzing young students about how they’d vote in the Voice referendum, and recording their answers.

A class of 10-year-old children at Birchgrove Public School were asked a series of questions about the referendum, the cases for ‘yes’ and ‘no’, and their own voting habits as part of the “reflection” activity.

In the online survey, seen by The Daily Telegraph, the students were asked “What would be your personal choice for vote?” and given the options “yes”, “no” and “not sure”.

They were also asked if they believe kids should have been able to vote in the referendum, and give their reasons.

It is understood at least one parent has complained to local Balmain MP Kobi Shetty about the class activity, which was not anonymous unlike the referendum itself, instead recording the respondents’ names and email addresses.

Should schools discuss political issues like the Voice referendum with classes?
Yes 9 %
No 91 %
533 votes

The right to a ‘secret ballot’ has been a feature of Australian democracy since 1856, setting an international precedent.

A concerned parent who did not want to be identified said he found the recording of the schoolkids’ votes “very disturbing”, especially in a school where the prevailing opinion in the community is “pretty obvious”.

“The school is a bit of a hotspot of pro-Voice activity … children have been encouraged to wear ‘Yes’ badges to school,” he said.

“The concern is that 10-year-old might feel a bit intimidated by being forced to take a position on what is a complex political issue by their teachers.

More at the Daily Tele

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 9:24 am

Knuckle Dragger

Nov 6, 2023 8:29 AM

Six dead from the Daylesford prang now.

Bloody hell.

As you predicted, a codger in a Sporty Beemer.

Vicki
Vicki
November 6, 2023 9:24 am

“The concern is that 10-year-old might feel a bit intimidated by being forced to take a position on what is a complex political issue by their teachers.

Many more years ago than I care to remember, a visiting American teacher gave an outrageous talk to our Year 9 (then 2nd year high school) on the reasons for racial prejudice against negroes in the US. It was despicable racial prejudice at its most unsavoury. Even at 13 years of age, I was outraged & let the teacher know it. It was the talk of the school, but I wasn’t called up to the Headmaster as some expected.

But you are right – parents cannot rely on some tinderbox (as I was then) to challenge such what is being insidiously taught.

Vicki
Vicki
November 6, 2023 9:25 am

“to challenge what is being insidiously taught”

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
November 6, 2023 9:27 am

I could not agree more strongly with you Dot, on your summary of the three traitorous dogs, Howard, Abbott and Scummo.

Without the financial support supplied by Scummo,(and the hopelessly out of his depth Frydenberg), the political dross in charge of the capitals, could never have implemented the outrageously vicious attacks on our civil rights, which regrettably, so many in our society were sooooooooo happy to comply with.

Johnny Rotten
November 6, 2023 9:28 am

There are basically two types of people. People who accomplish things, and people who claim to have accomplished things. The first group is less crowded.

– Mark Twain

calli
calli
November 6, 2023 9:39 am

A sixty six year old is hardly a codger. Not even retirement age.

Could be anything – intoxication, drugs, speeding, mechanical failure, medical episode.

I’ll await the medical assessment/police report.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 9:39 am

Someone at the OZ has a sense of humour:

‘Albanese is losing his mojo on a plunge into the red zone’

Chuckle…mojo?

Continuing…

‘Anthony Albanese has achieved an unenviable milestone within 18 months. He has exhausted all his political capital and now Labor’s ascendancy is in retreat. He has clearly suffered significant political harm from getting it so wrong on the voice referendum.’

Predicted by the Cat.

cohenite
November 6, 2023 9:40 am

Cassie of Sydney
Nov 6, 2023 7:19 AM
Last night, on his weekly Sky programme, Cory Bernardi gave a withering editorial on ARC, aka the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship, a ‘right of centre’ conference held in London last week, a conference which attracted the high, the mighty and the not so high and mighty from across the globe.

Good rant. As I say the problem is not with the left/muzzies/pallis; they’re all obvious, vicious and stupid. THE problem is always the cowardice and capitulation by the so called conservatives. That’s why Trump was the best thing to happen to conservatism, Western values and the world. He stood up for those values. The left now own the institutions; they’ll stop Trump from running. England has gone and we’re in an interesting place with a crunch imminent. One thing is certain as Israel is showing: the time for talking is over.

calli
calli
November 6, 2023 9:40 am

We got the Little Red Schoolbook.

Nothing changes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 9:40 am

Knuckle Dragger

Nov 6, 2023 8:48 AM

Any news of the driver?

66 year old from a nearby town, apparently.

Mount Macedon.
Almost certainly a retired barrister (or other similar Top Man type) playing at farming with grapevines or Scottish Highland cattle.

calli
calli
November 6, 2023 9:41 am

Luigi the Unenviable

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 9:42 am

Bernardi wasn’t putting down the conference, or its founder Jordan Peterson. No, no, no, such conferences are great. Rather he was scathing about some of the attendees, almost all current and former politicians who were once (or still are) in positions of power to do something about the societal collapse we’re now facing, familiar names such as John Howard, Tony Abbott, Michael Gove, Miriam Cates Scott Morrison and others, yet who did nothing whilst in power or who are doing nothing now.

I made this criticism of ARC before Bernardi’s program went to air.

I suspect he reads the Cat.

Vicki
Vicki
November 6, 2023 9:43 am

Interesting retrospective of the IDF on what went wrong with their Intel:

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-771806

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 6, 2023 9:44 am

Ex-ABC Q+A host Stan Grant and wife Tracey Holmes criticise taxpayer-funded broadcaster

By sophie elsworth
Media Writer
@sophieelsworth
9:32AM November 6, 2023
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Stan Grant has taken another public swipe at his former employer, the ABC, while being interviewed on one of its radio shows – saying there are too many people on programs, including Q+A, that he simply doesn’t “need to hear from”.

The latest gripe with his former employer comes as his wife, ABC sports presenter Tracey Holmes, also hit out at the ABC in an interview with Nine Entertainment’s The Sydney Morning Herald on the weekend, blaming the “treatment” of Grant as part of her decision to leave her job at the end of the month.

Grant quit the public broadcaster in August, saying executives failed to offer him any support following the fallout from controversial coronation coverage in May, and he has continued to be critical, most recently on ABC NSW radio’s Afternoons program with Josh Szeps’s last month.
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Grant, a Wiradjuri, Gurrawin and Dharawal man, attacked the format of Monday night talk show, Q+A, now hosted by Patricia Karvelas, arguing the program is flawed because its panels of guests with varying areas of expertise are expected to pontificate on a range of issues they know little – if anything – about.

“If you do a Q+A program and you put a range of people on, suddenly you are expected to be expert about everything from … what’s happening in the Middle East to taxation policy or the Indigenous voice or whatever it may be,” Grant told Szeps.

“Sometimes there are people on these programs that I don’t need to hear from and what is their expertise?”

During a Q+A episode he hosted in 2022, Grant controversially evicted University of Melbourne student Sasha Gillies-Lekakis from the audience while live on air, after he made pro-Russia claims regarding the conflict in Ukraine.

Grant told Szeps the mainstream media spends too much time “filling space”.

“I think (that’s) another thing we’ve lost in the 24/7 world of media, [now we are] just constantly filling space,” he said.

“There is a time to just say, ‘it’s not the time for me to speak and I don’t need to be on all platforms’.”

In August, Grant was appointed inaugural director of the Constructive Institute Asia Pacific at Monash University.

He continues to air his views via interviews, speeches and podcasts and, when he was an ABC presenter, regularly took part in interviews and wrote a weekly column. Grants comments were followed by some from Holmes whose interview with Sydney Morning Herald columnist Peter FitzSimons was published over the weekend.

She said the ABC has changed for the worse and said she contacted the public broadcaster when there was an attack on Grant while the pair were out of the country earlier this year.

“I rang the ABC to say, ‘Are you going to try and correct the record?’ and they wouldn’t,” she told FitzSimons.

“And so I realised: how can I walk back into that place?

“It’s not the ABC it was, and I hope it finds its way back.”

An ABC spokeswoman said it “wishes Tracey well in her future endeavours”.

calli
calli
November 6, 2023 9:44 am

In other news, our pair of banded rail have produced chicks. First time. Two little black fluffballs. I saw mum herding them about the garden edge yesterday and couldn’t believe my eyes.

calli
calli
November 6, 2023 9:46 am

Doesn’t take much to get the rat out of the skirting boards.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 9:46 am

Re the Gazan holiday makers touching down in Sydney, would it be too much to ask the government to bill them?

A transport plane, a tanker and a cadre of soldiers doesn’t come cheap to the tax payer, most of whom can’t afford extended overseas holidays.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 9:48 am

Grant, a Wiradjuri, Gurrawin and Dharawal man…

BS.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 6, 2023 9:51 am

A German council wants to rename their Anne Frank childcare centre because it doesn’t fit the “new diversity” of the town.
Per another article, the new Germans are “confused”
by memorials for murdered Jews.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 9:52 am

As you predicted, a codger in a Sporty Beemer.

That’s a bit of a stretch. There are older doddering farts filling stadiums and wineries for revival tours.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 9:54 am

In August, Grant was appointed inaugural director of the Constructive Institute Asia Pacific at Monash University.

One of the purposes of which is to preserve democracy.

Yet Grant has been scathing in his criticism of the referendum result, going so far as to say reconciliation is dead.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 9:54 am

sTan laying it on with a digging stick. Isn’t that Tracey’s job?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 6, 2023 9:58 am

Comment, from the Oz.

Peter
1 hour ago
These two were silent for decades while the ABC served their interests, and not most Australians.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 6, 2023 9:59 am

This thread now dedicated to ageism in all its forms.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 6, 2023 9:59 am

Meanwhile in the Territory – sure, Albo, it’s everywhere:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has not committed to needs-based domestic violence funding amid Australia’s largest ever coronial inquiry into the deaths of four Territory women.

For the past four-months Coroner Elisabeth Armitage has explored the systemic issues leading to the killings of four Aboriginal women, Kumarn Rubuntja, Kumanjayi Haywood, Miss Yunupingu and Ngeygo Ragurrk.

The Territory’s domestic violence rates are seven times higher than the national average, and of the 83 Territory women killed by their partners, 94 per cent were Indigenous.

Domestic Violence Prevention Minister Kate Worden recently called the Territory’s 1.8 per cent share of federal domestic violence funding “deplorable”.

During his visit to Darwin on Saturday, Mr Albanese was asked if his government would change the federal domestic violence funding structure, which is currently based on population rather than the level of demand.

Mr Albanese said the issue was “not something that is confined to one community”, calling it a “scourge” in every state and territory.

“On average, it‘s one woman a week being killed at the hands of someone they know,” he said.

“It goes across income groups, goes across ethnicities, faiths — everywhere.

“It is too prevalent in our society, and it should be it should be wiped out.”

NT News – not allowing comments of course

Tom
Tom
November 6, 2023 10:06 am

Predicted by the Cat.

The Cat also predicted that Labor’s primary vote would start falling in the month after the referendum. Bingo:

Anthony Albanese’s approval ratings have fallen sharply in the wake of the referendum defeat and the decline in living standards as the political contest between Labor and the Coalition narrows to the closest margin since the 2022 election.

An exclusive Newspoll conducted for The Australian shows the gap between the prime minister and Liberal leader Peter Dutton has also tightened significantly, with only 10 points now separating the two leaders.

The first major poll since the defeat of the Indigenous voice referendum on October 14 shows the Coalition now leading Labor on the primary vote, 37 per cent to 35 per cent.

This marks a two-point gain for the Liberal/Nationals parties in the past three weeks and a one-point fall for the government.

The two-party preferred contest between the major parties is now at its closest point since the election with Labor’s lead cut from 54/46 to 52/48 per cent.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 10:06 am

Albanese is losing his mojo on a plunge into the red zone’

Luigi’s PR team has him hitting the Big Issues this morning.
Yes, that’s right. A plea to extend the stay of the Giant Pandas on loan to Adelaide zoo from China.

‘Anthony Albanese has achieved an unenviable milestone within 18 months. He has exhausted all his political capital and now Labor’s ascendancy is in retreat. He has clearly suffered significant political harm from getting it so wrong on the voice referendum.’

Quite so.
As I said yesterday, I couldn’t believe the high-fiving on the back of five or six Teal seats voting Yes (which apparently made Dutton unelectable) and dismissing the 59 ALP seats which voted No with a wave of the hand.
That was obviously a coping mechanism for the commentariat.
I doubt the Top Faceless Men in the Labor Pardee Machine were so sanguine about the No vote and what it meant.
They know.
Once a Rustadon votes against the Liars and the sky doesn’t fall on them, they are likely to take a shine to this swinging voter thing. Dutton needs to recognise this is his new constituency and play to it. A bit of corporate bashing of those who tipped big money into the Yes campaign wouldn’t hurt.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 10:09 am

Knuckle Dragger

Nov 6, 2023 9:59 AM

This thread now dedicated to ageism in all its forms.

I am not suggesting 66 year olds should be banned from driving completely.
Just no Sporty Beemers.
Maybe a Hillman Imp fitted with a deadman’s switch or something similar.
With a large plastic bowls hat on the roof to warn people.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 10:12 am

During his visit to Darwin on Saturday, Mr Albanese was asked if his government would change the federal domestic violence funding structure, which is currently based on population rather than the level of demand.

Mr Albanese said the issue was “not something that is confined to one community”, calling it a “scourge” in every state and territory.

Apparently Mr. Albanese has identified a social issue to which the principle of equity – so beloved of social justice warriors – should not be applied.

Perhaps they needed a voice after all?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 10:16 am

The two-party preferred contest between the major parties is now at its closest point since the election with Labor’s lead cut from 54/46 to 52/48 per cent.

Liars backbenchers on 0.1% to 2% TPP margins will be getting very flighty about now.
Six months ago Luigi thought he was going to enter the Panfeon of Labor Luminaries, bookending fifty years of Torrie Fighting with Gough.
Now he is looking like a good Luigi who lost his way.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 6, 2023 10:16 am

Just no Sporty Beemers.
Maybe a Hillman Imp fitted with a deadman’s switch or something similar.
With a large plastic bowls hat on the roof to warn people.

Toyota Crown, with boxes of tissues on the rear parcel shelf and giant containers full of mints in the console.

Also, they should be fitted with mandatory beepers and flashing orange lights, regardless of travelling direction, in the manner of those golf cart things at airports.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 10:17 am

“I rang the ABC to say, ‘Are you going to try and correct the record?’ and they wouldn’t,” [Holmes] told FitzSimons.

Come on, Tracey, don’t be shy.

Tell us who it was…David Anderson perhaps?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 6, 2023 10:19 am

A class of 10-year-old children at Birchgrove Public School were asked a series of questions about the referendum, the cases for ‘yes’ and ‘no’,

My immediate thought was that 10 year olds will have been imprinted with their parents’ opinions, so it would be a way to see how parents were voting.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 10:21 am

The two-party preferred contest between the major parties is now at its closest point since the election with Labor’s lead cut from 54/46 to 52/48 per cent.

The Top Faceless Men will take no comfort from a four point lead.
They know a bunch of solid Rustadons broke loose on October 14th, and the trend is not their friend. When you are sitting on the opposition benches on a TPP of 45%, you are desparate for Something Big to shake things loose.
Luigi handed it to them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2023 10:26 am

In August, Grant was appointed inaugural director of the Constructive Institute Asia Pacific at Monash University.

Constructive Research Asia Pacific Institute would be a better name.

Pogria
Pogria
November 6, 2023 10:28 am

This is one way in which Gillard (shudder) has performed better than Howard, Keating, Scomo etc etc.

She dabbled recently. Remember the gathering of a coven in the UK where she was asked “what is a Woman?” and waffled on for fifteen minutes without actually saying anything. Then the front row seat to the Drag Queen performance that was supposed to convince the soap dodgers to vote YES, even though they obviously weren’t eligible.
Thankfully, she has pulled her head back in since then.

JC
JC
November 6, 2023 10:28 am

I am not suggesting 66 year olds should be banned from driving completely.
Just no Sporty Beemers.

If only the car was Australian made.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 10:35 am

JC

Nov 6, 2023 10:28 AM

I am not suggesting 66 year olds should be banned from driving completely.
Just no Sporty Beemers.

If only the car was Australian made.

I know, right?
Obviously tipping $20k per car of taxpayer’s money into multinationals to make cars nobody wanted was the way to go.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 6, 2023 10:39 am

calli
Nov 6, 2023 9:46 AM

one of my favourites.

P
P
November 6, 2023 10:40 am

It is a curious thing being a millennial. I was born in 1988, and I find my generation to be a curious generation. We are, generally speaking, just old enough to have learned the old ways, or at least the ways that are not completely modern.

I recall being raised at a time when …

At a certain point, all of that changed.

This transformation seems to have taken hold in a real way within the last 15 years or so.

Catholicism Is the Only Path to Sanity

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 10:45 am

Luigi handed it to them.

And for his next act, Magic Luigi will proceed with truth & treaty!

Following which, he will do daring things with the electricity supply…

And then, the real show stopper, folks:

See how many immigrants Magic Luigi can stuff into Melbourne!

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 6, 2023 10:48 am

Yes I have no doubt anal wants to punish the electorate for not acknowledging anal’s brilliance.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 6, 2023 10:49 am

The permanent government in Canbra will be right on board too.

Tom
Tom
November 6, 2023 10:51 am

The Herald Sun says there are “unconfirmed reports” that the 66-year-old driver of the sporty Beamer in Daylesford had suffered a “medical episode” in the moments before the car killed six people last night.

The paper also reports the driver is from a nearby town, all but ruling out the thought that the accident was deliberate.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 10:53 am

Albanese is losing his mojo on a plunge into the red zone

Not being SloMo only gets you so far.

local oaf
November 6, 2023 10:56 am

“The concern is that 10-year-old might feel a bit intimidated by being forced to take a position on what is a complex political issue by their teachers.”

There’s nothing new under the sun.

In 1964 our class was told by our primary school teacher which candidate we should support in the upcoming election. The US presidential election of course.

As a kid from a non TV owning family, I knew the USA existed and could find it on a map but that was about it. Might have been vaguely aware they had an election on.

We should all barrack for Mr Johnson because he was in favour of the black people. Weren’t even told who the other candidate was.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 6, 2023 10:56 am

First!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 6, 2023 10:57 am

Oh, bugger!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 6, 2023 10:57 am

My reflexes are not what they used to be.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 10:58 am

And for his next act, Magic Luigi will proceed with truth & treaty!

The Great Luigi will get the big hook from offstage if that even looks like happening.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 6, 2023 10:58 am

I am not suggesting 66 year olds should be banned from driving completely.
Just no Sporty Beemers.

So I’ve still got a couple of years to find a manual Land Shark.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 10:59 am

We should all barrack for Mr Johnson because he was in favour of the black people.

That worked out well for the black people.

Some might even aver they were making good progress until Mr Johnson decided they needed the government’s help.

JC
JC
November 6, 2023 11:02 am

I know, right?
Obviously tipping $20k per car of taxpayer’s money into multinationals to make cars nobody wanted was the way to go.

Last port of call was 45k per buggy from what I recall.

But hey, at least then, consumers had the choice of not buying imported cars manufactured at “below cost”.

We have plenty of Henry Fords and Steve Jobs here to make our own cars and computers . These remarkable people are currently operating out of garages.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 11:02 am

The Great Luigi will get the big hook from offstage if that even looks like happening.

You’d think so…but look at what happened to Palaszczuk when she suggested a pause.

The hard left is now in control of the ALP.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 11:04 am

This thread now dedicated to ageism in all its forms.

My electric wheelchair can go around 10kph, roughly twice a brisk walk and probably a couple of hundred kilos. Once you don’t have the mobility and agility of walking through crowds you become much more conscious of the people around you. Older people do require different considerations. Deal with it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 6, 2023 11:06 am

In 1964 our class was told by our primary school teacher which candidate we should support in the upcoming election.

In 1966, my primary school teacher was fairly active in the anti Vietnam war movement.
He was smashed into the next post code, in front of the whole class, by the father of a soldier, who had just been killed at Long Tan.

Johnny Rotten
November 6, 2023 11:07 am

calli
Nov 6, 2023 9:39 AM
A sixty six year old is hardly a codger. Not even retirement age.

Could be anything – intoxication, drugs, speeding, mechanical failure, medical episode.

Probably mechanical or more likely a medical condition. Those experimental virus jabs/boosters are slowly working their way along the road to oblivion. Or it was just an accident waiting to happen.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 6, 2023 11:07 am

I saw a Tweet where it is now being put about that Israel is harvesting the organs and skin of dead Palestinians.

Out there somewhere a very stupid and gullible person is becoming more entrenched in an opinion a call anyone stupid who says otherwise.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2023 11:08 am

Also, if Russia is in the driver’s seat

Hopefully not in a Sporty Beemer.

Vlad had another Black Sea Fleet ship potted overnight.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 11:09 am

The Chook, like KRuddy, could only ever offer the probability of re-election. Once that’s gone – they’re gone. In truth that could probably be applied to all leaders although the best of them offer much more.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 6, 2023 11:09 am

I wonder what the Yank ROE is for NATO partner civvies storming the flight line.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 11:10 am

Mother Lode

Nov 6, 2023 10:57 AM

My reflexes are not what they used to be.

I am only half kidding.
I took a white knuckle ride with a geriatric rello 12 months or so ago. Thought he was Ayrton Senna on the wet backstreet rat-runs of Sydney, and didn’t take too kindly to my requests to back it off a bit.
“Used to drive rally cars” he snapped at me.
My reply didn’t help. Pointing out that his halcyon days of rallying coincided with the rise of the Beatles, and that rally courses didn’t have tiny roundabouts with mums and prams everywhere.
Anyway, he is now in care, precipitated by an accidental injury. Not in a car, but as a result of the same arrogance and lack of awareness of his own failing reflexes. I am just relieved he didn’t end up doing something like what happened in Daylesford last night.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 6, 2023 11:11 am

entrenched in an opinion a and will call anyone stupid who says otherwise.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 11:12 am

H B Bear

Nov 6, 2023 11:04 AM

This thread now dedicated to ageism in all its forms.

My electric wheelchair can go around 10kph, roughly twice a brisk walk and probably a couple of hundred kilos.

Whispering death.
Electric wheelchairs travelling at 15 kph in a supermarket aisle.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 6, 2023 11:14 am

lack of awareness of his own failing reflexes

Last weekend a 75yo friend broke his patella in 3 places trying to piggyback his wife , who is anything but petite, of a bbq boat. Mentally we are still 21.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 11:15 am

Albo’s main problem was he fell into government without any political capital and nothing his government has done from that point on has built any. No amount of spin or election demographics can do much about that.

Johnny Rotten
November 6, 2023 11:16 am

H B Bear
Nov 6, 2023 11:04 AM
This thread now dedicated to ageism in all its forms.

My electric wheelchair can go around 10kph, roughly twice a brisk walk and probably a couple of hundred kilos. Once you don’t have the mobility and agility of walking through crowds you become much more conscious of the people around you. Older people do require different considerations. Deal with it.

I’ve been doing a few early morning runs and nearly got clobbered by one of those wheelchairs. I’m age 70 years and the wheelchair would have been doing a lot more than 10 kph and driven by a codger wearing dark glasses and probably having no driver licence. FFS.

And all those ‘Lance Armstrong’ wannabees on their push bikes in their ‘Lance Armstrong’ wannabee outfits need farking. No consideration for anyone else at all.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 11:18 am

No amount of spin or election demographics can do much about that.

And heaven forbid they should start governing for the majority/the common good.

Johnny Rotten
November 6, 2023 11:18 am

Diogenes
Nov 6, 2023 11:14 AM
lack of awareness of his own failing reflexes

Last weekend a 75yo friend broke his patella in 3 places trying to piggyback his wife , who is anything but petite, of a bbq boat. Mentally we are still 21.

Speak for yourself. My IQ is better than 21. It’s 126.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 11:19 am

H B Bear

Nov 6, 2023 11:15 AM

Albo’s main problem was he fell into government without any political capital and nothing his government has done from that point on has built any.

I’d love to be a fly on the wall at the next caucus meeting, when they tell him to focus on cost of living.
“Cosht of living? I held a presh conferensh on cosht of living between my Washington trip and my Beijing trip. I don’t know what more you eshpeck me to do.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 11:19 am

This will make trucks v trains look like a kids picnic.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 6, 2023 11:21 am

Saying something ludicrous like harvesting organs and skin is part of the disinformation schtick. While people may not believe it they will accept a line of bullshit that is half as ridiculous. Incremental lying. Keep pushing the boundaries like homo marriage, love is love now where are your children.

Dot
Dot
November 6, 2023 11:21 am

Mentally we are still 21.

My orthopedic surgeon (fortunately he never had to operate) told me when I was 25, that when I was 30, 40 and 50 etc I would have the mind of a 20-year-old.

He also said to me, to my face: “Coordinated people don’t get these sorts of injuries” after I did not understand what “proprioception” was.

Very Rhodesian and direct, that fella.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 6, 2023 11:22 am

Thancho you speak Luigi very well.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 11:22 am

A lot of government problems can be traced back to Dr John Hewson. Arguably you will never see real policy from Opposition after that.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 11:23 am

I wonder what the Yank ROE is for NATO partner civvies storming the flight line.

Seems they too Mr. Erdogan’s rhetoric at face value.

Always a possibility with excitable types.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 11:25 am

Diogenes

Nov 6, 2023 11:14 AM

lack of awareness of his own failing reflexes

Last weekend a 75yo friend broke his patella in 3 places trying to piggyback his wife , who is anything but petite, of a bbq boat. Mentally we are still 21.

I have no problem with codgers engaging in self-harm, which enables orthopedic surgeons to change over their Sporty Beemers every year.
It’s just when their delusions of adequacy behind the wheel cause harm to others.
There are plenty of others out there like my geriatric relative who fancy themselves as Max Verstappen wannabes when they see a road ahead with a few bends.

Johnny Rotten
November 6, 2023 11:28 am

dover0beach
Nov 6, 2023 11:00 AM

In the War of attrition that Russia is winning, Putin will take the whole of eastern Ukraine up to the Dnieper River and leave the western Ukraine to be supported and paid for by the EU and NATO. Job done and the UKR then neutralised. All IMHO of course.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 11:29 am

Surfing tells you about ageing. At 18 you take a big wipeout, push off the bottom, come to the surface laughing and paddle back out. At 40 you drag yourself on your board and the next few set waves put you on the beach.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2023 11:32 am
Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 11:32 am

What Stan Grant is meant to be teaching at Monash:

‘Constructive journalism is an editorial approach that goes beyond reporting with the “if it bleeds it leads” culture so that we get the full story, not just half the picture. The Three Pillars – solutions, nuance and democratic conversation – are the foundation of constructive journalism practice.’

What he said about the Voice failure:

“This morning I am hearing that word: no. That word without love. That word of rejection. That word from which no other word can come. This morning in the darkness I am hearing the cold-hearted no of a country so comfortable it need not care. Our nation is set in stone: one word, no. Whatever hope there may be for a different Australia, I likely won’t live to see it.”

No solutions, no nuance, no desire to participate further in the democratic conversation.

Practice what you’ve been hired to teach, Stan.

rosie
rosie
November 6, 2023 11:33 am

Speaking of cyclists, what’s with the impatient bell ringing when one is walking on the correct side on a shared pathway?
Is one expected to jump onto the trainline so someone doesn’t have to go round?
And I always volunteer to drive going anywhere with my mother, to avoid that white knuckle ride.
I suppose I’ll be in same position soon enough.

Muddy
Muddy
November 6, 2023 11:34 am

Are they actually teachable? Are they capable of learning? Have control systems like mass media programming , Bernaysian propaganda and Prussian style education conformity imprinting made this impossible?

I don’t know what the big words mean, but I suspect many are simply leaving themselves on autopilot, tucking the chin, and hoping to find a place in a quiet corner of the herd.

Even for those who can and do think (analyse), it’s effing exhausting.

Shut down.
Mimic softly.
Save energy, and hope the
raptors take the person beside you first.
That extra 4.2 seconds before your own demise means that you won.

rosie
rosie
November 6, 2023 11:35 am

Yet Stan’s good friend Marcus Stewart said there are ways aboriginal people can have a voice without it being embedded in the constitution.
You’d think, considering the reasons atsic was disbanded, aboriginal people wouldn’t want a repeat that was set in concrete.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 11:37 am

Speaking of cyclists, what’s with the impatient bell ringing when one is walking on the correct side on a shared pathway?

It’s good etiquette to let people know you coming and stop the walking all over the place like a Browne’s cow (for WA readers).

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 11:37 am

Russia backs Hamas terrorists, calls Israel ‘occupying power’ that ‘does not’ have right to self-defense (Fox, 3 Nov)

That’s a step up in rhetoric.

The Cold War fault lines are quickly reappearing.

Tom
Tom
November 6, 2023 11:39 am

And heaven forbid they should start governing for the majority/the common good.

I looked it up the other day: the ALP’s trade union party now governs for an even smaller minority than the Greens.

Outside of the government public service, only 8% of workers in the private economy are now members of a union.

Yet unions have never had a louder voice because Paul Keating gifted them the trillion-dollar Australian compulsory superannuation gravy train, which unions now control and therefore no longer need members to pay the bills.

rosie
rosie
November 6, 2023 11:39 am

And I’m going to agree with Lizzie re travel, as much as you can, as long as you can.
My sister was adamant a few weeks ago she would never travel overseas again.
After talking to the radiation oncologist she’s thinking she and I could go to the UK in a year.
The only place I’m comfortable taking her tbh; English speaking and with a reciprocal agreement re Medicare.
We’ll see.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2023 11:40 am

The Cold War fault lines are quickly reappearing.

Russia getting some payback from places like Stanford. Maybe this time Karl?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 6, 2023 11:41 am

Not in a car, but as a result of the same arrogance and lack of awareness of his own failing reflexes.

My Dad used to do rally driving too. He really was a great driver. As far as I know only one prang – when some shit on methadone mounted across the median strip in Blakehurst in Sydney. From what I heard my father turned his somehow just so as to minimise the forces he was hit with – couple of bruised ribs and that was it. (There were airbags mind.)

The only time I heard of him unleashing his inner rally driver was once (I was not there, my brother was) when he was angry at a family something when he came to a hairpin bend: he came to the bend, spun the wheel and hit the handbrake, followed the turn perfectly. I never heard of him doing so at any other time.

My sister is an excellent driver – you can see as she drives she is regularly checking her mirrors and watching not just what the car in front is doing but the cars in front of them. She learned to drive up to that level of skill. I reckon my dad had to learn down to it.

For me? One of the greatest compliments I ever got was after work (bar work) one of my friends said to someone else (so not a compliment to me per se) “I trust Mother’s* driving drunk more than most people’s driving sober.”

* Not my real name.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2023 11:42 am

Speaking of cyclists, what’s with the impatient bell ringing when one is walking on the correct side on a shared pathway?

Rosie – It seems to me there’re two schools. Once I got ticked off loudly and profanely by a lady walker for not bell ringing in that scenario. As for myself when I’m out walking I hate bells, they are irritating.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 11:42 am

rosie

Nov 6, 2023 11:33 AM

Speaking of cyclists, what’s with the impatient bell ringing when one is walking on the correct side on a shared pathway?

If there’s one thing worse than cyclists ringing a bell it’s cyclists not ringing a bell. Whizzing past 2 inches from your elbow, fat bastard in straining lycra, imagining they are Cadel Evans.
Or, in a group, calling out “rolling!” as they plough through a pedestrian crossing.
I hope I live to see the day that a pedestrian responds with a call of “punching!” as he gives one of them a bunch of fives to the temple and sends him to meet his orthopedic surgeon.

Johnny Rotten
November 6, 2023 11:43 am

Practice what you’ve been hired to teach, Stan.

How can ‘Stan the pretend Black Man’ possibly teach journalism when he was never taught or understood journalism in the first place. And how did he get that University appointment? What strings were pulled? What favours were handed out?

What the Fark gives here? Universities are supposed to be places of learning. FFS.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 11:45 am

“If you do a Q+A program and you put a range of people on, suddenly you are expected to be expert about everything from … what’s happening in the Middle East to taxation policy or the Indigenous voice or whatever it may be,” Grant told Szeps.

“Sometimes there are people on these programs that I don’t need to hear from and what is their expertise?”

Q&A was never about serious coverage of current affairs but about setting up the token conservative panellist for a metaphorical beating for the entertainment of its lefty audience.

That it was a production of the entertainment silo of the ABC rather than news ought to have been a hint as to what they expected of you, Stan.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 11:45 am

After talking to the radiation oncologist she’s thinking she and I could go to the UK in a year.
The only place I’m comfortable taking her tbh

No sashimi?

Real Deal
Real Deal
November 6, 2023 11:46 am

What Bear said Rosie.

Just to let you know a faster user of the shared path is about to pass on your right.

That how I use my bell anyway. Though I’ve had pedestrians who can walk faster than I can ride.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 6, 2023 11:47 am

GreyRanga
Nov 6, 2023 11:22 AM
Thancho you speak Luigi very well.

Yes, yes indeed.
I’ve long held a theory about that.
Walking amongst the people in a borrowed cloak and picking arguments with them,very Henry V…

rosie
rosie
November 6, 2023 11:49 am

Russia is surely too busy to lend much material aid to Hamas.
I hope.
Twitter and YouTube is very revealing of international sentiment.
I see pro hamas comments from the Philippines, India, Spain as well as from the unusual suspects.
I’m assuming mostly from muslims but absolutely one eyed.
People that are crying over video of naked captured terrorists in Israel also sharing and gloating over pictures of beheaded Israeli soldiers.
And there is no blood libel they will not repeat.
Western progressives who have abandoned religion have no idea.
Even Bill Maher going on about his enlightenment heroes who are responsible for creating the current crop of intellectual airheads and their truth is a matter of personal opinion in a world divided into oppressor and oppressed, victim and villian, colonialist and enslaved, white and people of colour.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 11:49 am

“If you do a Q+A program and you put a range of people on, suddenly you are expected to be expert about everything from … what’s happening in the Middle East to taxation policy or the Indigenous voice or whatever it may be,” Grant told Szeps.

“Sometimes there are people on these programs that I don’t need to hear from and what is their expertise?”

I find it telling that sTan is referring to guests here, but seems blissfully unaware that he is grossly unqualified to host a discussion on 93.1% of the subject matter of Q&A, including the plight of Aboriginal children in remote Australia.
I think sTan’s definition of “people with expertise” is really “people who agree with sTan”.

Spinning Mouse
Spinning Mouse
November 6, 2023 11:51 am

A class of 10-year-old children at Birchgrove Public School were asked a series of questions about the referendum, the cases for ‘yes’ and ‘no’,

My immediate thought was that 10 year olds will have been imprinted with their parents’ opinions, so it would be a way to see how parents were voting.

My 10 year old was strongly imprinted with his parents’ hard no. It would have been off to re-education camp for him.

Dot
Dot
November 6, 2023 11:52 am

That extra 4.2 seconds before your own demise means that you won.

WHO WILL BE EATEN FIRST?

Cthulu meets Jack Chick.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 6, 2023 11:53 am

As for myself when I’m out walking I hate bells, they are irritating.

Being an empathetic soul, I’m alive to this – which is why I tend to give a terse, but soothing, ‘Coming through…’.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 11:53 am

Real Deal.
It’s tone and level.
One polite “ting” says “be aware I am approaching”.
An insistent “Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!” says something completely different … “How dare you get in my path when I am on track for a PB!”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2023 11:54 am

How dare proles try to avoid our propaganda!

Australian smart TVs to be regulated through ‘prominence legislation’ to make government-funded news appear ahead of commercial outlets (Sky, 6 Nov)

The ABC and SBS could soon be boosted ahead of many Australian commercial media outlets on smart TVs, including through manipulated search results for news stories, as the Labor party prepares to introduce “prominence” legislation.

Labor is mounting a draconian push to regulate devices in living rooms which will limit the freedom of Australians to see the most relevant content when they switch on their TV.

You WILL watch what we want you to watch! We know what is good for you, peasants. We must educate you in climate crap, antisemitism, Covid panic and socialism!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 6, 2023 11:54 am

Last weekend a 75yo friend broke his patella in 3 places

Kind of impressive in its way. I believe the patella is the largest of what is known as a sesamoid bone – a bone embedded within a tendon and which also does not articulate with any other bones.

Breaking it and waiting for it to mend sounds like a looooong wait. How long do they reckon it will take?

rosie
rosie
November 6, 2023 11:55 am

I know that Bear, but in a particular circumstance there was an exchange of words and apparently the cyclist did expect the pedestrian to stop and jam themselves against the fence or something.
I noticed the other day that cyclists are now banned from the Fitzroy Gardens unless trundling around with children under 12.
Good.
Another pet hate.
Dynon Rd has a dedicated and lightly used dual cycle path so who is in the left lane on the main drag where the speed limit is 70km?
I’d love the law to be changed to cyclists being banned from roads where a dedicated path is provided.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2023 11:55 am

I suppose we all have a bad cyclists story.

I was out for a leisurely drive on country backroads in these parts looking for scenes to photograph when a pack of cyclists came around the bend 100m in front of me too fast & veered onto the wrong side of the road, leading me to steer onto the verge. Only one made a gesture of apology.

shatterzzz
November 6, 2023 11:56 am

Re the Gazan holiday makers touching down in Sydney, would it be too much to ask the government to bill them?

Shirley, they weren’t allocated a “special” flight? .. according to “the chap”, last week, there were 116 Oz in Gaza so even if we (as in, mug, taxpayers) got them all out they wouldn’t have taken up much room on the size of aircraft operated by any of the international flyers …….!
And why would it be necessary to bring ’em all the way to Oz? .. once out 1st “safe” destination should have dun and then they make their own way to wherever ..
bloody nanny state and OPM ! .. FFS!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 11:56 am

GreyRanga

Nov 6, 2023 11:22 AM

Thancho you speak Luigi very well

I do my besht.
Itsh a modesht impreshion of our beloved abshentee Prime Minshter.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2023 11:57 am

Desperate headline by Fox.

Nah. It’s everywhere, Dover. Try doing a search. I think Fox may’ve been a little slow as I recall seeing it elsewhere a week ago.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 6, 2023 11:59 am

It’s the 2-3% of knobs that give the rest of the cycling community a bad name.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 11:59 am

Oh, jeez.
My spellcheck now assumes I want to speak Luigi all the time.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2023 12:00 pm

It’s the 93.1% of knobs that give the rest of the cycling community a bad name.

shatterzzz
November 6, 2023 12:01 pm

The Territory’s domestic violence rates are seven times higher than the national average, and of the 83 Territory women killed by their partners, 94 per cent were Indigenous.

Who uses this sort of language for stats .. 83/94% .. why not say it properly 83/80 or whatever the, actual, number is! … FFS!

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