Wally – Thick and illiterate, I see.

“social licence” is a real term that was once used to describe a thing that was real.

You seem to think that, because someone and some groups later used the term one way, it could never have been used the other. And that sounds like something a trans activist would say about the word “gender”, ffs.

Tell you what. What term would you use to describe the commercial situation where no one goes to a baker anymore because he’s been shagging the butcher’s wife?

Because once you come up with that term, you’ll want to go back and change all of the references to “social licence” in older business marketing text books, printed when people still knew who David Ogilvy was.

Water is dear because it’s pumped.
All roads lead to the cost of electricity.

and the cost of transport fuel.

Water is dear because it’s pumped.
All roads lead to the cost of electricity.

Add that about 90% of the water bill is sewage treatment. Makes sense since the sewer system has to collect waste water from all over, so has many more pumps, plus the treatment plants with lots of electric motors running the equipment.

Let’s take some morality lessons from Lt Col Oliver Norf and Rev Jimmy Swaggart in case America gets too free.

Seems legit. America is so free right now with the FBI intimidating parents questioning school boards?

I think the whole Canbra abomination is maliciously negligent. What was someone Monis even doing in Australia?

I was wondering if the High Court decision that people can’t be held in detention permanently would also apply to a certain Mr Daniel Duggan.

What’s a Coatesworth? SFA in this case.

Germany and Italy join Europe’s Anti-Immigrant Wave

Wake up calls everywhere. And Albo is flying around the world not hearing them.

Good report on the pedo teacher transfers.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/nov/15/victorian-education-department-deliberately-moved-alleged-paedophile-teachers-to-new-schools-inquiry-told

Appearing before a state inquiry into sexual abuse at 23 public schools in the 1960s up until 1999, the education department’s deputy secretary, Dr David Howes, said there had historically been no departmental procedures during that time to handle teachers who abused students.

The four teachers under scrutiny had transferred between schools in Melbourne’s south-west as the abuse occurred.

Haven’t scrolled back and therefore sorry if this has already been posted.

Peta CREDLIN
Hamas-Israel war exposes new depth of self-hatred

NOVEMBER 16, 2023

Let’s pray that Israel swiftly succeeds in subduing Hamas and its militants in the Gaza terrorist statelet, because as long as Hamas lasts it seems its local backers will routinely be flooding our streets and doing their best to intimidate Australian Jews.

I deliberately use the term “Hamas backers” because the tens of thousands of marchers now out every weekend aren’t there in favour of peace.

Here, as well as in Britain and Europe, the demonstrations started immediately after news broke of the original Hamas massacres of more than 1200 innocent people and the abduction of about 240 more on October 7.

On that dreadful evening of Monday, October 9, as the Sydney Opera House was floodlit in solidarity with Israel, many hundreds were chanting “Gas the Jews”, well before any significant counter-strike. And with almost 50,000 reportedly protesting in both Sydney and Melbourne last weekend, on a per capita basis we seem to have just as many as Britain’s voluble supporters of Hamas.

(Student protest for Palestine ‘another recruitment drive’ from the Greens.
Sky News host Peta Credlin says the upcoming Melbourne student protest for Palestine looks like “another recruitment drive” from the… Greens. Ms Credlin’s comments come as school students in Melbourne demand a ceasefire in Gaza, planning to skip school in support of Palestine. “Most couldn’t even find Israel on …)

Labor ministers such as Penny Wong might have trouble with the distinction, but there’s a world of moral difference between a carefully planned, premeditated terrorist attack, largely on civilians, with babies butchered in front of their parents and teen­agers forced to watch the mutilation of adults before whole families were slaughtered, and a military campaign against a terrorist army that’s using civilians as human shields.

But there’s no evidence so far that seems capable of shaking the conviction of local friends of Hamas that it’s all Israel’s fault – not even the discovery that terrorist tunnels start inside hospitals, as confirmed by the US on Wednesday AEDT.

From the Prime Minister down, our government seems at least as concerned about an all-but-non-existent Islamophobia as it is about the rampant anti-Semitism on display as convoys of Hamas supporters turn up in front of a synagogue in Melbourne or gun their motorbikes through heavily Jewish suburbs in Sydney.

While police are said to be considering what offences may have been committed by a “death to the Jews” Islamist preacher, none of our myriad anti-racist watchdogs, normally so quick to identify the supposed racist tendencies of journalists and cartoonists, has been able to identify anything untoward in mobs urging the destruction of Israel and the expulsion of the Jews “from the river to the sea” in what would amount to a new Holocaust.

How have we got to such a point of moral derangement, where it’s almost acceptable to deliberately kill 1200-plus innocent people who just happen to be Jews but wholly wrong to risk almost any civilian casualties in punishing the perpetrators, who quite consciously armour themselves with the flesh of their own people?

There are two broad explanations for this palpable double standard: first, the presence within our own country (and others that have accepted numerous newcomers from the Middle East) of people indoctrinated almost from birth that Israel is on stolen land and that the rapacious Jews are the source of all oppression; and, second, the persistence in so many of our institutions of an insidious form of self-loathing that largely blames the West for the world’s ills and sees Israel as its Middle Eastern exemplar.

Not for a second should there be a religious or cultural bar on potential immigrants. Still, what’s the point of having the citizenship test that the Howard government introduced and all subsequent governments have kept if it’s not taken seriously; and why bother asking questions about Australian values that all would-be citizens must get right if there are no adverse consequences for those who don’t accept them once in the community?

Consistent with a non-discriminatory immigration policy, it should be possible to acknowledge that not all newcomers integrate equally.

(US intelligence confirm Hamas used hospitals to hold hostages.
The White House on Tuesday confirmed Hamas has used hospitals in Gaza, including Al-Shifa Hospital, to hold hostages and carry out military operations. Sky News host James Morrow said Israel had been saying hospitals… were being used to hold hostages and support military operations “for ages”. “I don’t know why …)

Yet the only recent government prepared to make such distinctions was Tony Abbott’s which, in its final act, said that our refugee intake from the Syrian crisis should be chosen by our officials rather than by the UNHCR with a preference for persecuted minorities.

The real failing here is less with recent migrants from the Middle East than with an administrative state that has largely adopted the academic left’s anti-Western critique, even though very few societies are more consistently free, fair and prosperous than Australia and Britain.

It’s hard to find a British academic who doesn’t regard imperialism as a racist monstrosity, even though it was the Royal Navy that stamped out trans-Atlantic slavery and no country on earth now has a more multi-ethnic cabinet than Britain, all achieved without reverse discrimination in a society that has become almost completely colourblind.

Equally, it’s difficult to find an academic who doesn’t heap blame on Britain’s Balfour Declaration, which pledged support for a Jewish homeland in the lands where the ancestors of Israelis had been expelled. This opprobrium is despite the fact Israel is the Middle East’s only liberal democracy.

So great is the historical amnesia and obliviousness to the obvious that just a fifth of young Britons have a positive view of Winston Churchill, despite his role in saving the world from Nazism.

Indeed, Suella Braverman has just been sacked from the British cabinet, in part for wanting to suppress what she called “the increasingly vicious anti-Semitism and extremism displayed on our streets” in the face of which a defeatist and declinist Tory leadership has mostly dithered.

Here in Australia, every state government and most federal MPs – along with almost every large business and almost all sporting and cultural bodies – supported a constitutional change to give the original inhabitants a special say in government, largely out of guilt over dispossession 200 years ago. That failed, only because voters had more respect for Australia than their leaders.

But where officialdom can act without asking the public, governments of both sides fly the Aboriginal flag coequally with the national one and for years have insisted that all schools teach every subject from an Indigenous, sustainability and Asian perspective – as if Australia’s story is one of racism, environmental vandalism and cultural sterility compared with our neighbours.

(Opposition leader Peter Dutton says the Albanese government is ‘speaking out of both sides of its mouth” in its stance on the Israel-Hamas conflict. Mr Dutton’s remarks come after Foreign Minister Penny Wong called on Israel… to stop the “attacking of hospitals” and voiced concern about the safety of …)

It’s hardly surprising that plenty of young Australians brought up with preoccupations about “invasion day”, “white privilege” and colonialism see pluralist Israel as the real villain here, rather than terrorist Hamas, despite the medieval attitudes of most Arab nations towards gays and women. It’s not just Jew-hatred that’s massively on display on our streets but a fair dollop of self-hatred, too.

Forced to choose between a fellow democracy and an Islamist death cult, more self-confident societies would not have a moment’s ambivalence. And yet here we are.

After a trip to Israel in 1971, which he described as a “life-changing event”, Bob Hawke declared that Israel was an inspiration, a small lone democracy in the Middle East.

Labor’s best prime minister warned that “if the bell tolls for Israel, it won’t just toll for Israel, it will toll for all mankind”. His moral clarity is what’s needed now from the current incumbent in the Lodge, who is lacking in both leadership and courage.

Ogilvy married Sophie Louise Blew Jones.

His mother was Dorothy Blew Fairfield.

There are two broad explanations for this palpable double standard: first, the presence within our own country (and others that have accepted numerous newcomers from the Middle East) of people indoctrinated almost from birth that Israel is on stolen land and that the rapacious Jews are the source of all oppression…

Credlin means Muslims. Just say it.

C.L.
Nov 16, 2023 10:00 AM

Credlin means Muslims. Just say it.

Why cut your own throat?
It is clear for everyone who and what she means.

‘Social Licence’
Used by politicians when the politics are right and small unaffected pressure groups align with this.
Not used when the majority affected hate the project but politicians need to be seen to act on promises, such as transmission lines.

The ABfnC’s Four Corners will do months and months of exposes of the Sexual Abuse of Children in government schools – Likely?

C.L.
Nov 16, 2023 10:00 AM
There are two broad explanations for this palpable double standard: first, the presence within our own country (and others that have accepted numerous newcomers from the Middle East) of people indoctrinated almost from birth that Israel is on stolen land and that the rapacious Jews are the source of all oppression…

Credlin means Muslims. Just say it.

Yep. Be polite in good company and for good people. But be honest. For example, earlier this morning I was watching a French news broadcast and they did a special on a X rant by a purported doctor working in that hospital in Gaza. The journalist demonstrated that the video was fake. Why be polite with such dishonest claims being made to the world? We don’t have to be abusive and that often works against our message but failing to call a spade a spade makes us look weak and allows more nonsense to be broadcast. If we don’t call these people out they’ll keep doing it.

Farmer Gez
Nov 16, 2023 8:14 AM
Water is dear because it’s pumped.
All roads lead to the cost of electricity.

Or in my case computers and “lax” staff. The water authorities now have computers that can “estimate your use” and therefore these estimates can be used for your bills. Our bills kept creeping up even though I started using tank water on all but the toilet, kitchen and shower. I had our plumber check for leakages and also arranged for him to check our meter. When challenged the authority admitted that its meter reader for our area had failed to read our meter and was using the estimates. We received a negotiated refund. I believe the meter reader was relieved of his duties as it was done under contract.

Wind industry going bananas when faced with the same environmental restrictions their fellow travelers have inflicted on the rest of us for decades. Schadenfreude anyone?

Credlin means Muslims. Just say it.

Why cut your own throat?
It is clear for everyone who and what she means.

The problem is that she will forever get it wrong. In Islam, in the Koran and every part of this ideology, (hadiths) the Jews are identified as the enemy and need to be killed. Do so during a jihad and you are guaranteed entry to Paradise.
Indoctrination is too superficial a word to use. It is a belief. Nothing to do with stolen land. The Muz and Arabs steal land from each other all the time. The Jews poisoned Mo.
It is a quandary for everyone in public life. Basically the Muz are a standover organisation. Everyone, from the police to academics to journos, is scared. As the copper said in UK “there are more of them than us”.
I don’t see a solution.

The Sydney-Newcastle HS project itself, if it ever eventuated, would apparently cost somewhere between $28 billion to $100+ billion – depending on how much tunnelling would be required.

Is Florence the Machine still stuck…?

The $2 billion Snowy 2.0 project may crack the $20 billion mark the rate its going.

In other words, it was front page news for days in Thailand when we were there.

Is Florence the Machine still stuck…?

Yes, but I know an engineer on the project and he says they are drilling back the other way and currently making good progress.

We may criticise the Western press for ignoring the Thais, which I pointed out was happening, but my comments detailing the Thai’s situation and responses were not overwhelmed with interested upticking or further comments from others, even here.

Too foreign, too far away, and after all, it’s only Lizzie?

It is true that there has been little Western press acknowledgement that at least 30 Thai workers are captive by Hamas, and others were killed.

Thais are well liked here in Australia. Our leftist media wouldn’t want to focus on this as it might pull on the public’s heart strings and muddy their pro Palestine/Hamas line, so they conveniently leave it out. Lying by omission?

No!

M’Lud, I refer you to the top of page 5 for some filthy unfair and insane meme-making character assasination, and then the leaden thumbs of doom on everything I say on that page.

Nothing wrecks a valid point more than adding self pitty.

Pity has no double ‘t’, Bespoke. You got that wrong too.

Like Israel, dear chap, I have the right to defend myself.

https://michael-von-der-schulenburg.com/how-the-chance-was-lost-for-a-peace-settlement-of-the-ukraine-war/

How the chance for a peaceful settlement in Ukraine, was lost.

Clare O’Neil scrambling to pop ankle-bracelet on 83 terrorists, murderers, rapists and child molesters.

Trump-esque sledging by Dutton who recently called her “always angry.”

Mmyes. This pic in the press today.

Lizzie, are you feeling deprived of attention?

And this, students of questionnaire construction, is how you construct what we call a leading question. The classic of course is ‘have you stopped beating your wife?’ but there are many varieties.

So what?
Chill.

You’re not too bright, are you Kevni? (sorry if that’s a bit of a leading enquiry, lol)

The issue above was about how Thai hostages just weren’t big news.
Except in Thailand. And that it wasn’t easy to grab attention for them.
Even though there were three times as many as American hostages.

Let’s move on, now.

Page turning coming up soon.

Not too bright. Yes, I’m not too bright.
No, I’m not too bright.

I rest my case, Kevni. You miss the issue.

Moving on now.

The matter of the Thai guest workers is a valid & very relevant issue.

It was until it was used as an excuse to grift.

Barf?

Sadly, Vaucluse votes Teal, and that’s been our issue.

However, some good people reside here who make up for that.

“Grift” = to swindle.

Close. I prefer “exploit something for a personal agenda”

“Sloopy Girl”
Zulu’s link notes that she was a natural blonde.
Lucky fact checker.

Heartwarming video shows former President Donald Trump visiting his granddaughters school Wednesday.

Aww.

https://twitter.com/TexicanTrumpian/status/1724882000396382701

Albo needs some clear air? He’s like a fart in a lift.

Above I put the word in inverted commas because education clearly does not correlate with intelligence.

Of course not. Lots of intelligent people never got a chance at education, clever people often did well on natural ability rather than study and they still do, and these days in particular, most education does nothing to lift understanding or develop intelligence. Some very stupid people get degrees; they used to be called ‘plodders’ even back in the day. Now university entry is easy, no scholarship is required for financing study if parents won’t or can’t, and standards have fallen through the floor. Woke theory prevails and a degree is fairly worthless.

Kevni, you may not know that I educated myself and did well in life prior to uni.
I took a pay cut to get there. Tooks years before I reached that level again.

James Delingoles descent into madness continues, just listening to a podcast with him and his brother Dick. James and Dick believe that the Israeli Government and Hamas conspired together on the 7th October attack on orders from a Higher organisation.

Mad as you can get.

“Tintarella di Luna
Nov 16, 2023 10:24 AM
The ABfnC’s Four Corners will do months and months of exposes of the Sexual Abuse of Children in government schools – Likely?”

Will Louise 7Nilligan finally take the opportunity to run a story that the High Court might not reject 7-Nil?

Probably not, the targets are protected species.

I never stooped to denigrate you

But you did, didn’t you, Kevni? Page 5, last OT.

A whole big mess of denigration. A complete vomit of it.
What a stoop that was. It came out of nowhere, and picked a big healing scab here for me.

And today, your leading question denegrating my commentary here in the same terms as on Page 5 last OT, bringing out the usual suspects.
You are a concern troll, a fake, Kevni. Wouldn’t be called Grigory, would you?

Re the foreign workers killed by Hamas:

Thanks Rosie – I just hadn’t seen many references to them.

shatterzzz
Nov 16, 2023 12:26 PM

Gaza update ……

Hard to make sense of it.

Is Florence the Machine still stuck…?
The $2 billion Snowy 2.0 project may crack the $20 billion mark the rate its going.

According to the Parliamentary Committee scrutinizing the CLIMATE CHANGE, ENERGY, THE ENVIRONMENT AND WATER PORTFOLIO:

1) Florence the Machine is not stuck any longer, just resting where she is for a while as her attendants finish the HSE paperwork.

2) Snowy Hydro CEO, Mr Barnes, informs the Committee that, at the projected $12 billion project final spend the project apparently returns a $3 billion NPV (presumably at SH’s 7.6% WACC) and is therefore an absolute ball-tearer of an investment.

3) Senator Malcolm Roberts unkindly points out that this spend doesn’t include the associated power distribution infrastructure to allow Snowy 2.0 to send out power – which he estimates at around $8 billion. So, the best thing to do, to avoid destroying $5 billion in National wealth, is just say ‘sorry’, abandon the project and go home to grow tomatoes.

4) Mr Barnes disagrees, because Snowy 2.0 apparently enables a forest of other renewables to spring up, flourish and provide electricity too cheap to meter that will turn Australia into an international renewables (and hydrogen) powerhouse. Or something.

Assumption upon assumption upon assumption.
That’s the way the public sector spenders roll…

(Technical Note: Mr Barnes’ salary is not yet published in the Snowy Annual Report. In 2022 his predecessor was pulling down a lazy $2.7m pa.)