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The Beach at Sainte-Adresse, Cluade Monet, 1867

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Rabz
November 17, 2023 8:27 pm

Staggering stupidity, utter incompetence and blatantly obvious treason.

This is our beloved Australian government’s “Mission Statement”.

But yeah, housos, mate

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 17, 2023 8:31 pm

Youtube not liking my adblocker on another browser. When did they do that?

Brave & Duck duck go seem to still have no problem at the moment.

FFS their ads were getting as bad as FTA TV in frequency when I use youtube through the mobile phone.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 17, 2023 8:34 pm
MatrixTransform
November 17, 2023 8:35 pm

Let’s see if this will be played off as a joke.

Maybe the Cat is losing its sense of humor

you reckon?

MatrixTransform
November 17, 2023 8:37 pm

and it is always the Meta-Cats … you fncken wooden clowns

P
P
November 17, 2023 8:39 pm

Why Israel must win
My podcast with Brendan O’Neill
Melanie Phillips – Nov 17, 2023

I took part this week in a podcast with Brendan O’Neill on his show for Spiked. Brendan is one of the Britain’s most thoughtful and independent-minded commentators. He possesses something which, alas, is becoming vanishingly rare: a truly open mind. We discussed Israel’s war against barbarism, what this has revealed about the state of Britain and western civilisation and why therefore Israel must win.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 17, 2023 8:42 pm

Rockdoctor
Nov 17, 2023 8:31 PM
Youtube not liking my adblocker on another browser. When did they do that?

Brave & Duck duck go seem to still have no problem at the moment.

FFS their ads were getting as bad as FTA TV in frequency when I use youtube through the mobile phone.

I use uBlock and when the message comes up I purge the cache and do a quick update; go back to YT and reload. Bingo!

I haven’t had that message in days.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 17, 2023 8:42 pm

the God Oracle is angry*.

A sacrifice is demanded.

*Insufficient admiration at the Friday toolbox meeting.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 17, 2023 8:45 pm

Don’t go the full Nurse Betty claiming it was “just a cultural reference”. The intent was clear.
So, as I say … you posted it, you own it.
I am not falling for damsel in distress smelling salts/fainting couch “Wah, wah, wah … I’m being bullied” routine.

I am happy to own and apologise for my reference to Hamas. It was unnecessary.

The reference to the Dutch during World War Two was a legitimate response to the claim that the one thing that the Dutch are known for is their stoicism. Recall that this was in the context of telling Cassie to be stoic like the Dutch and to man up. No apologies at all for my response there. No apologies from Johanna to Cassie either, I note.

Going on about Nurse Betty and Wah wah wah is extremely juvenile, Sancho.
But you can be that way here, and quite the bully with it
Something in your childhood perhaps.

Rabz
November 17, 2023 8:48 pm

albansleazey – “duuuhhh, let’s apply to the High Wynyard Toiletnesses* to magic up a get out of gaol free release of a whole bunch of violent stupid rapists, pxxdophiles and murderers who we (labore) should never have been allowed to let into this country in the first place, I tells ya!

Then, to add insult to injury to the stupid white middle class racists who bankroll us, let’s gift those unwelcome third world rapists, pxxdophiles and murderers millions each in taxpayers’ money!

* Yeldham, as a barrister, a judge and in his retirement, had on a number of occasions either been seen in significantly compromising situations at railway stations around Sydney, or detained on suspicion of indecent behaviour in railway toilets.

When they’re not “being seen” in significantly compromising situations at railway stations, they’re writing themselves get out of speeding and red light tickets free while blaming them on dead American quackademics

No one gets to vote for these fat stupid evil preposterous pxxdophiles.

Yet they get to determine how we live, like it or not.

It’s not right, I tells ya. 😡

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 17, 2023 8:51 pm

Brave & Duck duck go seem to still have no problem at the moment.

I got pinged yesterday by YT for the first time. YT doesn’t seem consistent yet on Brave though, it didn’t occur with other YT vids.

NYP pinged me yesterday as well. I didn’t drop the adblock as I only do that when I trust the site, and for me NYP is too Murdochy for that just yet.

cohenite
November 17, 2023 8:56 pm

The court heard this week that, while serving as an army lawyer in Afghanistan, McBride became concerned by what he believed was the “over-investigation” of alleged misconduct by special forces troops.

Prosecutor Patricia McDonald noted that McBride believed the investigations were “excessive” and undermined the soldiers’ safety.

The whistleblower handed classified documents related to these investigations to journalists Andrew Clarke, Chris Masters and Dan Oakes.

The ABC later published what became known as The Afghan Files, which detailed Australian troops’ alleged illegal killings in Afghanistan.

Ok, so the media screwed him over. I withdraw the goats and instead place clarke, masters and oakes over the ants nest.

rosie
rosie
November 17, 2023 8:56 pm
cohenite
November 17, 2023 8:59 pm

As previously noted:

Body of Corporal Noa Marciano recovered in structure adjacent to Shifa Hospital.

19 and a happy young girl. I still think the nuke option is on the table.

Rabz
November 17, 2023 9:05 pm

I still think the nuke option is on the table

Careful, Cronks – you are sensibly advocating some baby steps along the path of the (long overdue) eradication of the most evil idiotology in human history.

Lots of good would emerge from it. 🙂

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 17, 2023 9:06 pm

NKP me mate had a Lotus Europa like Emma Peel drove. What a pile of junk. He had the early one with a Renault Gordini in it. Went ok but the finish was crap and I had so much trouble getting in and out.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 17, 2023 9:09 pm

Point of etiquette. Honorary stepdaughter has returned from holiday in Vietnam, and presented me with a stubby holder, with an image of the Vietnamese flag.

Should I take it to the next R.S.L. barbecue I go to?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 17, 2023 9:11 pm

Some rough scenes from the Falklands War.

Brothers in Arms – The Falklands War

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 17, 2023 9:14 pm

I still think the nuke option is on the table

Ah, no. Lots of D9s. Then steamrollers. The Pallies potted a D9 this week though, with an AT missile, which was sad although the guys I think both survived. It was hit just on the border with Gaza as I recall. Israel needs more D9s.

Alamak!
November 17, 2023 9:16 pm

Australia can’t afford a third lived experience from this incompetent woman. She has got to go and as soon as possible.

Crossie> Snap! She is not competent and should be removed along with all of the next layer down in Optus. I hate to say this, because there are many competent women in tech and management, but this CEO is only there now because she is female and connected to the “in” crowd. Its an insult to every other competent one.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 17, 2023 9:20 pm

fork

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/11/smh-bullshit-aborigines-are-afraid-of-leaving-their-homes-for-fear-of-abuse-and-racism.html</blockquo

Hang on a sec while I clean up my spew. What fantastical bullshit is allowed into print today? I’ve had quite a few abbo mates over the journey, and they wouldn’t have given a fork.

Rabz
November 17, 2023 9:22 pm

The opening of the gates of hades on October 7 2023 was all due to the inexcusable presence on this planet of the most evil, monstrous and retrograde force to have existed in human history, Cats.

It does not get dignified with a name check in this comment.

You all know what it is, including the collectivist cretins* here observing and down thumbing.

*They’ll consume you first, in accordance with your role as “useless idiots” – if you doubt this, see for example the fate of the iranian collectivists in the aftermath of the overthrow of the Shah …

Crossie
Crossie
November 17, 2023 9:23 pm

Fast forward a couple of centuries – the huge pile that is the Lutheran cathedral is empty. No congregation. Nada. Doors closed. The little rebuilt Catholic church across the road is packed to the rafters…five services on Sundays and likely to grow some more.

Common sense dictates that the Catholic congregation move over to the larger building, but no dice. ?

Calli, I’m hoping the cathedral will eventually be up for sale and then the Catholic congregation can purchase it. It used to happen here in Australia, there is a Catholic Church in Summer Hill that used to be a Uniting Church in the early 1910s.

MatrixTransform
November 17, 2023 9:27 pm

the world is going crazy … 30 minutes with Dave Smith

Rabz
November 17, 2023 9:31 pm

collectivist cretins (BIRM) are never anything otherwise than useless – petty, malicious, destructive and insufferably vainglorious, and that’s enough about their most obvious character traits.

lenin knew this, which is why he referred to them as “useful idiots”.

“We will sell the rope that we use to hang them

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 17, 2023 9:34 pm
calli
calli
November 17, 2023 9:34 pm

Chilean and Polish migrants Calli?

And Ethiopians.

I wasn’t trying on any sectarian bulltish either. Just an observation of how religious extremism in any of its forms isn’t rewarded long term. And sometimes it’s very long term.

There’s hope in there somewhere.

Crossie
Crossie
November 17, 2023 9:36 pm

The whistleblower handed classified documents related to these investigations to journalists Andrew Clarke, Chris Masters and Dan Oakes.

The ABC later published what became known as The Afghan Files, which detailed Australian troops’ alleged illegal killings in Afghanistan.

Ok, so the media screwed him over.

What did he think was going to happen? For decades now any conservative knew that you couldn’t trust the ABC yet a military lawyer didn’t know that. Nah, I still hold him guilty for what ensued. He might have had a case if he released to info publicly so all could look through.

Crossie
Crossie
November 17, 2023 9:38 pm

calli
Nov 17, 2023 9:34 PM
Chilean and Polish migrants Calli?

And Ethiopians.

Calli, before I upticked you I noticed your downticker had already been there.

Rabz
November 17, 2023 9:39 pm

Here we go again, Cats – Anarchy in the UK

The Lydon is a cultural hero – an extremely talented R ‘n’ R man, a cultural commenter and a real person.

Despite the McLaren’s best efforts to render him a caricature … 😕

Rabz
November 17, 2023 9:41 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Nov 17, 2023 9:34 PM

Bluddee hippees!

miltonf
miltonf
November 17, 2023 9:43 pm

albansleazey – “duuuhhh, let’s apply to the High Wynyard Toiletnesses* to magic up a get out of gaol free release of a whole bunch of violent stupid rapists, pxxdophiles and murderers who we (labore) should never have been allowed to let into this country in the first place, I tells ya!

Then, to add insult to injury to the stupid white middle class racists who bankroll us, let’s gift those unwelcome third world rapists, pxxdophiles and murderers millions each in taxpayers’ money!

Rub the right’s nose in diversity as the bLIARite’s used to say. I think the trash in canbra would have a good giggle about it actually (when the mics and cams are off).

rosie
rosie
November 17, 2023 9:43 pm

I didn’t think you were Calli.

Crossie
Crossie
November 17, 2023 9:43 pm

I just can’t believe that the second largest communications corporation in Australia has a CEO who almost cried when questioned by a Senate committee. That’s it? That’s the best Optus can do? No wonder they had a second existential crisis within a year but that’s not all, their incompetence endangers their customers in real existential and financial terms. She just has to go unless Optus wants to go the way of Budweiser.

miltonf
miltonf
November 17, 2023 9:45 pm

Canbra imports people who attack you.

Bar Beach Swimmer
November 17, 2023 9:46 pm

Calli
Nov 17, 2023 6:57 PM

+1

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 17, 2023 9:47 pm

By the time this is over (at least, this chapter is over), the public opinion so relied upon by the Palis will be non-existent.

All that needs to happen is for the Next Big Shiny Thing to come down the pipe, and the fashionable protests by handpatters, social misfits and affluent ignoramuses will have a new target.

It won’t go away.
A hardcore of activists will still be at it.
The key thing is, though, that they will be confounded by the fact that their Sleeping Giant style “growing calls” campaign for the IDF to bend over and take it have fallen on deaf ears.
As for the remainder of the long tail of hangers-on?
Yes.
ADHD will do it’s thing and they’ll move on.

miltonf
miltonf
November 17, 2023 9:48 pm

I always found it hard to take Optus seriously. As much as I dislike Telstra, their mobile network is the better one. I always thought Optus was contrived- we had to have a compotator to Telecom so Optus was created.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 17, 2023 9:50 pm

Sigh!
Flounce alert.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 17, 2023 9:51 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Nov 17, 2023 8:42 PM

the God Oracle is angry*.

A sacrifice is demanded.

*Insufficient admiration at the Friday toolbox meeting

A little bit of eye-rolling and sniggering from the young chaps, I’m told.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 17, 2023 9:58 pm

BTW, calli I wasn’t excusing the assessment delay for aged care.
I don’t get why someone can’t do a ten minute one-page preliminary review to expedite admission, then get the full assessment done later.

Rabz
November 17, 2023 10:00 pm

LOL – there are stupid hippees here exercising their down thumb – forget about attempting to mount an opposing argument, they’ll just flounce about mud caked naked and looking like amphibians emerging from a primordial swamp – which is the existence they envision for us, Cats.

Sad, they are (again) …

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 17, 2023 10:02 pm

Here we go again, Cats – Anarchy in the UK …

The Lydon is a cultural hero – an extremely talented R ‘n’ R man, a cultural commenter and a real person.

Choice Bro. Motley Crue do a good cover also, which I posted recently.

Love “Rise” by PIL. Love the Johnny.

Chris
Chris
November 17, 2023 10:03 pm

Point of etiquette. Honorary stepdaughter has returned from holiday in Vietnam, and presented me with a stubby holder, with an image of the Vietnamese flag.

Should I take it to the next R.S.L. barbecue I go to?

I would imagine many of them have been there since… and would notice and not mind at all.
So I guess the old buffers are gone now, that when the returned Korea and Vietnam diggers knocked for admission, told them to p1ss off?

Rabz
November 17, 2023 10:11 pm
Rabz
November 17, 2023 10:14 pm

Rise by PIL:

Anger is an energy” …

rosie
rosie
November 17, 2023 10:15 pm
Johnny Rotten
November 17, 2023 10:23 pm

Zafiro
Nov 17, 2023 10:02 PM
Here we go again, Cats – Anarchy in the UK …

The Lydon is a cultural hero – an extremely talented R ‘n’ R man, a cultural commenter and a real person.

Choice Bro. Motley Crue do a good cover also, which I posted recently.

Love “Rise” by PIL. Love the Johnny.

And Bob Marley was a Spurs Supporter. Good Man.

And I am Johnny Rotten, So get farked.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 17, 2023 10:23 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHh_5Dv7VPQ

All right, Rabz, if you are going to be picky…

Johnny Rotten
November 17, 2023 10:27 pm

No Women No Cry………………….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ6VezKMoRY

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 17, 2023 10:28 pm

I barrack for spurs, and that pre-dates Ange rocking up.

Rabz
November 17, 2023 10:37 pm

Cats,

The next Economics post was to be about the concept of opportunity cost – however, it can’t be done in any kind of numerical sense as the figures just do not bear any resemblance to reality*.

You can waste money, or you can actually do something useful with it.

That’s the concept in a nutshell.

Quantifying government expenditure figures is now beyond ridiculous. Just look at the “public works projects” supposedly mercifully cancelled today.

My so called “Profession” is a joke – and has been in this country for many moons.

It’s not something I’m proud of. 😕

*Previously referred to as “Bullshit”

Rabz
November 17, 2023 10:38 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 17, 2023 10:44 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNSYjR8GUQc

“I’ll Buy You One More Frozen Orange Juice” – they don’t write songs with lyrics, like that, any more.

Johnny Rotten
November 17, 2023 10:54 pm

And I will try this one –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMUQMSXLlHM

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 17, 2023 11:02 pm

Sleeping Giant style “growing calls” campaign for the IDF to bend over and take it have fallen on deaf ears.

IDF leading the way and showing how. We need more deaf ears to this propaganda nonsense and the leftist attempts to sway by noise and outrage. They don’t have the numbers. One of the lessons of the Referendum. Thanks, Albo.

Rabz
November 17, 2023 11:03 pm

I left my city, my family my precinct …
I don’t seek your foolish kiss …
Don’t play your cards to your heart now

Rabz
November 17, 2023 11:09 pm

I feel your heat …
I never want to let you go …
I’m standing here to let you know …

I don’t wanna take a chance on your paper romance, anyway

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 17, 2023 11:09 pm

Season six of The Crown now out and showing on Netflix.

We refreshed outselves tonight with the last episode of Season five.
Where Diana is being pushed by Dodi’s dad into a relationship with his son.

Nice houses and yachts. And Charles wanting mummy to toss in the Crown so he can take up his new ideas for Britain in concert with Tony Blair. So odd in retrospect. You have twenty-five years yet to go before you get crowned, Sunshine, says Hairy to Charles, doing the numbers. So we’re ready now for the Crown’s interpretion of Blair and The Queen, as in that movie version we all know so well, with Helen Mirren doing so well at capturing the essence of ER2.

Indolent
Indolent
November 17, 2023 11:10 pm
Crossie
Crossie
November 17, 2023 11:13 pm

miltonf
Nov 17, 2023 9:48 PM
I always found it hard to take Optus seriously. As much as I dislike Telstra, their mobile network is the better one. I always thought Optus was contrived- we had to have a compotator to Telecom so Optus was created.

I have been with Optus since 1996 and they have been good until the last few years which coincides with the current CEO’s reign. I have an interest in remaining with Optus and thus I want them to ditch the influencer and to choose a real chief executive again. And no, I don’t want Gladys to get the nod.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
November 17, 2023 11:38 pm

Hi Rabz
Eco Hmmm – within 6 weeks of the eco degree I kept thinking how is this applicable to a job.
Except for stats an and b the subjects because more unreal the further I got into the course.
Probs now is you do not need to do stats a or b – the concepts are there for the teachers only.
I will grant eco history as some use.
BTW – your link to da keef “you shouldn’t take it so hard” – for years I was moving my tv antenna around my living room to get a clear picture, last week when on my iPad i realised it’s the filum clip.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 17, 2023 11:39 pm

We refreshed outselves tonight with the last episode of Season five.
Where Diana is being pushed by Dodi’s dad into a relationship with his son.

Did “The Crown” mention Diana’s numerous infidelities? A dozen, if I remember?

Rabz
November 17, 2023 11:56 pm

Miss Laydee … 🙂

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
November 17, 2023 11:56 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbaiQ00gywI
Da keep you shouldn’t take so hard.
Do not adjust your antena

Rabz
November 18, 2023 12:00 am

for years I was moving my tv antenna around my living room to get a clear picture, last week when on my iPad i realised it’s the filum clip

Rock ‘n’ Roll, Squire! 🙂

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 18, 2023 12:03 am

After weeks of Gaysians and African women’s refugee community gardens Gardening Australia featured Infidel Tiger’s favourite Western Australian, the spud King, Tony Galati. Sneakers gets a cameo, finally abolishing the WA Potato Marketing Board. So called Lieboral Emperor Barney nowhere to be seen.

Rabz
November 18, 2023 12:07 am
Rabz
November 18, 2023 12:09 am

Fun, Baybee … 🙂

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 18, 2023 12:22 am

the spud King, Tony Galati. Sneakers gets a cameo
Of course he f*cking does.
McGowan’s first act as State Emperor was instructing the Supreme Court to discontinue hearing a civil case that the potato growers’ association had brought against Galati for blatant, repeated, and of course very very lucrative breaches of the Potato Production Act.
If you think WA spud growers were dills and dinosaurs, fair enough, you’re half right. But don’t tell me you’re surprised that McGowan turned out to be a high-handed autocrat as well as a toady.

Alamak!
November 18, 2023 12:28 am

Quantifying government expenditure figures is now beyond ridiculous. Just look at the “public works projects” supposedly mercifully cancelled today.

Rabz> How about a topic on MMT vs traditional monetary theory? I suspect a lot of pollies believe in MMT or they think “Debts don’t matter”

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 18, 2023 12:31 am

I don’t really care how it was done. I’m sure Galati wasn’t motivated by a love of free markets picked up from Economics 101. Just like taxi drivers, I’m sure licensed potato growers weren’t happy either.

Vicki
Vicki
November 18, 2023 10:10 am

If people aren’t convinced of the horrors of October 7 or of the innocence of victims by the footage, by the evidence from the bodies of victims, by the survivor testimonies that have already been reported and continue to be gathered, they never will be.

Thanks again, Old Ozzie, for an important article.

I am still preoccupied with the refusal of contemporaries to avail themselves of the facts of 7/10. Once again, this morning at coffee (in Sydney) I was party to a discussion of the situation in Israel/Gaza. Once again, I encountered ignorance of the actual events. The latest trip to Noosa is still the most pressing event in many minds. However, I did see a ray of hope. Firstly, one of the participants was actually well informed – and commented, for example, on the fact that so many foreigners were amongst the slaughtered. But I also observed a clear understanding of the guilt of Hamas – with no “woke” instinct to side with the Palestinian cause. It’s something.

Vicki
Vicki
November 18, 2023 10:14 am

She is not competent and should be removed along with all of the next layer down in Optus. I hate to say this, because there are many competent women in tech and management, but this CEO is only there now because she is female and connected to the “in” crowd.

Don’t worry about saying it, Alaska. “Affirmative Action” has a lot to answer for. Anyone can see that many many women have been promoted above their level of competence.

Vicki
Vicki
November 18, 2023 10:14 am

She is not competent and should be removed along with all of the next layer down in Optus. I hate to say this, because there are many competent women in tech and management, but this CEO is only there now because she is female and connected to the “in” crowd.

Don’t worry about saying it, Alamak. “Affirmative Action” has a lot to answer for. Anyone can see that many many women have been promoted above their level of competence.

Winston Smith
November 18, 2023 10:39 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Nov 17, 2023 6:27 PM

Lizzie, just for the record, let it be known that I have never denied the veracity of your perky tits.

And nor should you, Winston, for they have been around for years. ?

The negatives are available for sale

Lawfare unless you give me a 50% share of profits, all costs go to your half.

Bugger.
There goes my chance at buying a new Patrol for Xmas.
🙂

Winston Smith
November 18, 2023 10:49 am

In fact, I may just have to do that – I went out to the Patrol yesterday to do some shopping.
Dead.
I initially thought I must have left a door ajar and the light has stayed on and flalttened the battery. So on the charger for 5 hours and a feeble crank of the engine. Nothing. But the brake lights are on, while brakes not engaged, refuses to move from park to reverse, fuses are OK, WTF?
Then I remembered – electrical storm here a couple of days ago and there were several near misses. Perhaps a lightning strike nearby has cooked the damn thing.
Oh well – I’ll find out Monday when I can get a mechanic to have a look at it. But if it’s cooked the electrics, insurance will cover but not repair it. Hopefully.
A pity – she still had a couple of hundred k in her. Only 250,000 on the clock and in unblemished condition.
At least the tank wasn’t full. 🙂

Winston Smith
November 18, 2023 11:06 am

miltonf

Nov 17, 2023 9:45 PM
Canbra imports people who attack you.

Canbra imports people to attack you.

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