Open Thread – Mon 4 Dec 2023


Pont Neuf, August Renoir, 1872

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C.L.
C.L.
December 4, 2023 12:25 am

The elephant in the room.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 4, 2023 12:36 am

Since my last comment exploded…

Friend told me the tale of his final training parade where somehow the marching music was played at a different tempo to what they had been practicing.
Instead of a march it was a bunch of spastic orangutans cavorting to their own beat.


‘a dozen and a half unco-ordinated poseurs dressed all in black and unable to walk in the same direction at the same time’.

Didn’t make the chap in charge any happier when 1/2 way through the genitalia removing session afterwards someone was heard to say ” my mum says I was the only one marching in time”.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 4, 2023 12:40 am

You’re up late, CL…
The elephant in the room, AKA Gough’s brainfart in an elevator which is only going down, is that abandoning the Enlightenment for Exceptionalism was a mistake which only made multi-generational misery.

Arky
December 4, 2023 12:48 am

Just finished respraying the left side fairing on the SRAD Gixxer and installing the decals.
The trick with decals is to spray the surface with soapy water and then squeegee the water out as you apply them.
Looks like brand new.
Mine’s the same as this one:
https://www.handh.co.uk/auction/lot/178-1998-suzuki-gsxr600w/?lot=57896&sd=1
You can see it has a ton of stickers over a beautiful metallic light blue.
I love this bike.

Arky
December 4, 2023 1:02 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
December 4, 2023 1:35 am

How NOT to fly helicopters, the Outback Wrangler way:

An air crash investigation last week found egg collector Wilson plunged to his death when helicopter pilot Seb Robinson unhooked his vital lifeline as he dangled in mid-air above croc-infested swamps,

Wilson fell almost three storeys and died instantly after he was cut free by Mr Robinson as the pilot fought for control of the chopper as it spiralled to the ground.

Mr Robinson suffered life-changing spinal injuries in the crash, spending months in hospital, and is now a paraplegic.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau found the helicopter had run out of fuel after it was ‘likely’ it had not been refuelled during a stopover minutes before the tragedy.

Investigators had also found traces of cocaine use in the pilot’s blood and that he had partied into the early hours of the morning the day before the accident.

Wright – who operated the Robinson R44 helicopter involved in the crash – will face court on Thursday on charges relating to the investigation after the crash, but not the crash itself.

Daily Mail

JC
JC
December 4, 2023 1:51 am

He needs to be impeached or whatever they do in the Vatican. He’s just horrible.

ROME — Pope Francis sent a message Saturday to the COP28 United Nations climate summit decrying the “unbridled exploitation” of the environment by first world nations.

Climate change “greatly endangers all human beings,” the pontiff said in his sternly worded address, and “time is short” to react to the current ecological crisis.

“It has now become clear that the climate change presently taking place stems from the overheating of the planet,” the pope declared, “caused chiefly by the increase of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere due to human activity, which in recent decades has proved unsustainable for the ecosystem.”

Due to an “inflammation of the lungs,” the pope was unable to travel personally to Dubai to read his message, so the text was read instead by Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin.

In his address, the pope blamed capitalist greed for the failure to act more decisively to prevent climate change.

Crossie
Crossie
December 4, 2023 3:35 am

Due to an “inflammation of the lungs,” the pope was unable to travel personally to Dubai to read his message, so the text was read instead by Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin.

The Pope is too ill to travel? I say he is too ill to have written that garbage as well. Wouldn’t it have been more effective and believable if the Pope was filmed saying it which could then be played at the conference?

Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 4:11 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 4, 2023 4:18 am

Thanks, Tom.

Johnny Rotten
December 4, 2023 4:27 am

The length of a film should be directly related to the endurance of the human bladder.

– Alfred Hitchcock

miltonf
miltonf
December 4, 2023 4:49 am

He needs to be impeached or whatever they do in the Vatican. He’s just horrible.

yes the world is ruled by evil old c*nts

Johnny Rotten
December 4, 2023 5:13 am

When an actor comes to me and wants to discuss his character, I say, ‘It’s in the script.’ If he says, ‘But what’s my motivation?, ‘ I say, ‘Your salary.’

– Alfred Hitchcock

Aaron
Aaron
December 4, 2023 5:51 am

The difference between trans/homo and various other phobias and Islamophobia?

One is not irrational.

An infidel in Paris.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 4, 2023 6:21 am
Stephen Williams
Stephen Williams
December 4, 2023 6:48 am

Arky, great bike, I always liked the GSX-R. My TA 125 is almost ready to start and get running. Thanks for the advice re the decals, I bought a set for this and managed to ruin them, $40 worth, I’ll try your way when I get some more.
It’s a beautiful little bike, I raced one in the 70’s and looking to go old fart racing next year, I also have a TZ350 but it needs a heap of work to get ready for the track.
https://flic.kr/p/2pjs3gk

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 4, 2023 6:59 am

Commiserations Zatara.
Thanks for that podcast.
I listened to a bunch of their shorter episodes last night.
I’m hooked, I can’t believe they only have 40k subscribers.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 4, 2023 7:05 am

The difference now is that we’ve stopped evolving and entered a remix culture, where the vast past is just a thrift store of costumes and artifacts, consumed in solitude through glowing glass rectangles, shared in an incorporeal community where avatars speak in unpunctuated text, memes and algorithmically selected TikTok moments. It’s a level of hell Dante never named, the one populated entirely by willing volunteers.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 4, 2023 7:07 am

Remember the Alamo!

TEXIT Progress: Secession Question Expected To Appear on 2024 Texas Primary Ballot (3 Dec)

As the US government hurtles toward insolvency while political and cultural divisions intensify across the country, Texans are poised to take their long-simmering flirtation with secession to the next level, as a non-binding proposition is expected to appear on the statewide GOP primary ballot in March 2024.

On Friday, the Texas Nationalist Movement (TNM) announced that it had obtained the number of signatures required to compel the Republican Party of Texas to include this question on the primary ballot: “Should the State of Texas reassert its status as an independent nation?”

The GOP structure in Texas is similar to the McConnell wing of the party – pretty squishy. So they’ll probably find some reason to keep it off the ballot. But if Biden gets “re-elected” then Texas might get serious about leaving.

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 7:09 am
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 4, 2023 7:24 am

The elephant in the room.

The pachyderm in the parlour?

Jorge
Jorge
December 4, 2023 7:29 am

Vic plod detects anti semitism after fifty black clad kooks shouted white supremacist slogans on the streets of Ballarat yesterday.

Good work, constables. From the Yarra to the State Libraree, Melbourne town is Nazi frei, So we’re off to Ballarat, And Allah bless Yasser Arafat.

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 4, 2023 7:30 am

Regarding the appearance of Jesus (not the actual Incarnation but what as a human, he looked like), it is a well established fact that he looked exactly like most of the members of Supertramp circa 1979.

Anyone who watches the video of the Logical Song will be compelled to agree.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 4, 2023 7:30 am

Due to an “inflammation of the lungs,” the pope was unable to travel

The doctrine of Papal Inflammability.

Beertruk
December 4, 2023 7:31 am

Tim Blair in today’s Tele.
Nails it on the pali support for the shitshow it is:

HAMAS FANS ARE SALUTING A HITLERIAN HORROR SHOW

TIM BLAIR
4 Dec 2023

Hindsight creates heroes. Millions of them, every day. Looking back, we can never imagine ourselves – our sophisticated, educated, sensitive selves – ever being on the wrong side of history.

We’d have known better, for example, than to intervene many decades ago in Aboriginal communities. While removing children from fraught circumstances was the politically correct thing to do back in the day, we would have seen right through it and denounced those evil child-rescuing churches and welfare groups for their obvious racism.

If we were in the US during the Civil War, we’d obviously have been on the anti-slavery side. In fact, because our historical distance graces us with such extraordinary powers of community resistance, we’d have been on the anti-slavery team even if born and raised in the South.

History is easy to get right if you weren’t in it. It was a little more difficult for the people who lived through those times and made decisions without hindsight’s clarity.

Those who got things wrong end up in history’s calamity file, alongside the likes of British prime minister Neville Chamberlain, who famously announced following his 1938 meeting with Adolf Hitler: “A British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Go home and get a nice quiet sleep.” Then followed the deadliest conflict in history. Great call, Neville.

Two years before Chamberlain’s disastrous proclamation, a lone German showed the way. US author Isabel Wilkerson beautifully described his solitary defiance, captured in a celebrated 1936 photo, in her recent book Caste: “He is surrounded by fellow citizens caught under the spell of the Nazis. He keeps his arms folded to his chest, as the stiff palms of the others hover just inches from him. “He alone is refusing to salute. He is the one man standing against the tide. Looking back from our vantage point, he is the only person in the entire scene who is on the right side of history. “Everyone around him is tragically, fatefully, categorically wrong. “In that moment, only he could see it. His name is believed to have been August Landmesser. “At the time, he could not have known the murderous path the hysteria around him would lead to. But he had already seen enough to reject it.”

Some background: one year prior, Landmesser had proposed to his Jewish girlfriend, Irma Eckler. Their marriage was cruelly disallowed by Nazi authorities. On seeing his image, most of us will reflexively identify with Landmesser. How could we not? He’s visibly opposing one of history’s most evil regimes. He shuns Hitler.

But consider how many throughout the allegedly civilised and enlightened West now identify more closely with those surrounding Landmesser. Consider how many either quietly condone or loudly support the murder of Jews by Nazi-oriented Hamas lunatics.

Examples of enthusiastic support are sickeningly numerous and frequent. Relatives of Israelis currently held hostage by Hamas were last week relocated to a police station after pro-Hamas activists gathered to chant and jeer inside the relatives’ Melbourne hotel. Just imagine that: your child or parent or sister is held captive by rapists and murderers, so protesters make you their target. We know what side these people are on, and it isn’t the side of August Landmesser.

As US commentator Stephen Miller observes every time new evidence of Hamas’s bestial atrocities emerges, if protesters will march for this, “they will march for anything”.

They certainly will. Since October 7, pro-Palestinian groups united behind the hateful slogan of “By any means necessary” have demonstrated in favour of sexual torture, infant beheadings and family incinerations.

They’ve been given a historical opportunity to pick the right side and they’ve gone with the Nazis instead. And they don’t have the excuse of ignorance. We’ve all seen terrifying October 7 footage, much of it shot by Hamas terrorists themselves. But when pro-Palestinian types see that footage, they don’t recoil. Rather, they metaphorically salute.

And when they hear in detail what happened at that music festival on October 7, it still doesn’t incline them to recalibrate their Hamas encouragement. “It was all an apocalypse of bodies,” a first responder’s chilling account revealed last week. “Girls without clothes, slaughtered people, decapitated. There were girls there who just broke their pelvis because they were raped. They were in terrible positions.”

History is always easy in hindsight. But it isn’t difficult to be on the right side in 2023. Just reject the murder of Jews. It’s worked before.

Ps: Hope the image linky works.
If not, I will be a ‘bit peeved.’

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 4, 2023 7:31 am

I am sure a few groaned at that joke. But it seemed appropriate for the Puntiff.

Beertruk
December 4, 2023 7:33 am

Ffs…pic linky didn’t work.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 4, 2023 7:35 am

The ‘Rat Nazis featuring on this morning’s picture wireless shows, meandering down Sturt Street again.

Funny stuff. Show your faces, lads, go on now. At least have the public courage of your convictions.

I doubt they took into account larger matters on the world stage at present, nor realised they resemble Hamas members without the green headbands.

You can just hear the debrief conversation:

‘D’ya think we got much public support, Tristyn?’
‘Not sure, Jaxon. It was windy, though – almost lost my black terry towelling hat at one point. Gotta go – I have an early start at the Blended Nugget Coffee Emporium in the morning.’

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 7:40 am

To be certain, the return of all the hostages will not end the war in Gaza, the Israelis are quite clear it must be that and the complete destruction of hamasisis.
The name by the way is an acronym ‘HMS’ strung together with two as to make some Arabic word like strength or courage.

calli
calli
December 4, 2023 7:43 am

I also like Ham@rse.

Although, on second thoughts, that’s an insult to pigs.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 4, 2023 7:44 am

he looked exactly like most of the members of Supertramp circa 1979.

Ah, yes. They also went through that ‘monastic’ stage.

There was The Theological Song. Hide in Your Cell. Brother Sun, Sister Moonshine. Lauds, is it time?

Good stuff.

Rafiki
Rafiki
December 4, 2023 7:46 am

“History is easy if you weren’t in it” ( Tim Blair).

Excellent, and very quotable.

Johnny Rotten
December 4, 2023 7:46 am

New Zealand Arrests Their Version of Snowden who Exposed Deaths by Vaccine

“The number one reason I refused to get vaccinated was the fact that once the government got involved, there would NEVER be (1) any recourse but (2) no accountability. I have worked with governments for over 40 years. NO government will EVER admit a mistake. Thus, once the government is involved, BEWARE!

Every politician who accepted ANY money from a Pharmaceutical company, directly or indirectly, should be removed from office. The head of Pfizer should be criminally charged and dragged in front of the people in chains like a dog.

New Zealand has shown it is no different from any ruthless governments throughout history. As Thrasymachus observed more than 2000 years ago, there is NEVER any justice or rule of law; it is only the self-interest of the government. Judges all the way down are tearing the very fabric of civilization apart at the seams. They will have no power when they lose the confidence of most people. Yet these fools rule in favor of the government and are blind to history, for they have crossed that fine line between tyranny and liberty.

New Zealand is prosecuting a healthcare worker for revealing the truth that nearly 20% of those vaccinated are dying or are dead. I think that is NOT a valid number. It seems way too high for me. This is the problem when we can no longer trust governments. What is real and what is not? All I can say is that God help us through these ruthless dark times when governments have lost all sight of why they even exist. Remember one thing. If you lie to the government, you go to prison for five years. If the government lies to the people, anyone exposing that goes to jail for treason for 20 years or life.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/new-zealand-arrests-their-version-of-snowdon-who-exposed-deaths-by-vaccine/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 7:48 am

No she doesn’t but she didn’t come home because hamas chose not to release her not because she wasn’t a mother or a grandmother.
Some speculation on twitter that Inbar Haiman was the barefooted woman being marched away by apparent civilians from an Israeli strike but the story hasn’t been picked up by the msm
She doesn’t deserve to wait for the next deal, just because she’s not somebody’s mother or grandmother,” writes Or Neko Maymon on Facebook in Hebrew.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 4, 2023 7:53 am

calli
Dec 4, 2023 7:43 AM
I also like Ham@rse.

Although, on second thoughts, that’s an insult to pigs.

Given that most senior Palestinian males are grossly overweight, perhaps “The fat pigs of Hamarse”? I’m sure that the pigs won’t give a pig’s arse about the connection.

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 7:55 am

The implication from the BBC is that somehow hostages still remaining in the clutches of hamasisis is Israel’s fault.
As for Israel not publishing lists to make the BBC’s job easier.
The nerve.
Reality is, if Israel were to publish a list, it would be based on missing persons because Hamas hasn’t published a list of the war crimes it committed and as we know whenever Israel get a detail wrong they get pilloried.
Some of the crap I’ve seen about Thomas Hand…

Gabor
Gabor
December 4, 2023 7:57 am

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Beertruk
Dec 4, 2023 7:31 AM

Tim Blair in today’s Tele.

Thanks Beertruk,

This is what troubles me, as Tim said, after seeing those pictures, how can anyone support Hamas, those murdering subhumans?
I am losing faith in my fellow men.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 4, 2023 7:57 am

I have worked with governments for over 40 years.

By that rationale, Ivan Milat also ‘worked with governments’. Julian Knight and Paul Denyer are currently ‘working with governments’, as is Mr Dawson, the footy-playing, wife-killing schoolgirl-rooting chap.

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 7:58 am

The Israeli priority was children with the proviso they were not to be separated from their mothers, for obvious reasons, hamas played games, separating children from their mothers, keeping back the Bedouin children to the last round and of course hanging on their prized possessions, the Bibas family (I hope).

JC
JC
December 4, 2023 8:05 am

More Marty gas released.

Martin Armstrong becomes Covid-19 Coronavirus Expert overnight

It is impossible that Martin Armstrong fails to monetize an opportunity such as the covid-19 pandemic (without actually providing any practical value as usual).

See also: Martin Armstrong’s Populist Hot-Button Topic Campaign

Here I document the methods that he uses to do so. In a nutshell, he has been playing it both ways, down-playing the pandemic and fear-mongering, using the old and tested Government Conspiracy Theory trick. As usual, even at his age of 71, he claims to become an expert on the subject overnight. He ridicules the professional experts and accuses them of corruption. As usual, he gets things wrong and changes course midstream.

On Jan 27, 2020, in Coronavirus still appears to be Normal Virus and on Feb 5, 2020, in Why Exaggerated Nonsense on Flu?, he clearly downplays the pandemic which later earned him criticism from his followers who made the wrong trading decisions based on his failed market forecasts:

I give up. Time to buy.

He goes on about all his amazing forecasts and how he is a legendary trader but he is none of these things the Corona virus has exposed him as just another salesman trading of lies of making great calls in the past.

On Mar 23, 2020, in We do Have to Get Beyond the CDC he uses the Fake Fan Email Confidence Trick to promote his name as a potential Government Advisor in the subject:

COMMENT: Hi Mr Armstrong,

I don’t know if there are advisers around the president that ae keeping you from explaining to him what is at stake so I started a Whitehouse petition to get you to see him. If you want to post it I am sure the many readers will get the numbers needed. If not, only this email to you is who I am going to inform the petition is posted.

Bring in the expert Martin Armstrong to stop the destruction of the world economy

That’s just marketing and confidence building for his real clients – the little guy, because: Not surprisingly, he has a new e-book for sale at $9.95 to turn the crisis into revenue: Coronavirus & Next Great Depression.

What is it? apparently a cut and paste job. Here is a review:

mberger47 in The Monetary Crisis Cycle Report

His recent report on the Coronavirus was 100+ pages of history lessons and 2 sentences of valuable information.

That’s just a teaser – the real payload is MAY 2020 Virtual Conrona Conference $300 and his $125 book The Cycle of War and the Coronavirus.

As expected, to make the point that this was just a confidence trick, the actual petition Bring in the expert Martin Armstrong to stop the destruction of the world economy turns out to be a flop because it reaches only 871 signatures, not even 1% of the required minimum of 100,000 to be even considered.

The Ferguson Model Code Review
I have several proofs on this site that Martin Armstrong searches other web sites aligned with his narrative for content that he then plagiarizes with the aim of profiting from it. Here is another example:

In May 6 2020, a suitable article appears at lockdownsceptics.org: Code Review of Ferguson’s Model

Two days later, on May 8 2020, Martin Armstrong again uses the Fake Fan Email Confidence Trick to imply that he was asked to review the same code: I have Reviewed Ferguson’s Code – It’s a Joke

I have been asked by a source in Britain to review the Ferguson model code for my opinion.

This clearly shows the vast chasm between trading models and academic models where the money is never on the line.

I don’t want to go into the details but a text comparison of his article shows that it it has been copied from lockdownsceptics.org with a small amount of re-shuffling. You are welcome to check this out here

He does not waste any time bragging about the superiority of his Mickey-mouse Socrates code where he reveals that it contains only 150,000 lines.

Contrary to his repeated claims that he created the computer code for his Socrates himself, he is so illiterate that he cannot even use a pocket calculator to calculate a percentage. He under-represents the number of Covid-19 infections and deaths in India by a factor of 100. See: What’s Happening in India?

Out of a population of 1.4 billion, there have been 17.6 million infections to date, which is 0.0125%.
… and the total deaths have reached 198,000. While that does sound like a lot, it is still 0.00014%.

The U-Turn #1

In Black Death Plague Returning in Asia on Jul 15, 2020, he makes a U-turn, splits his narrative into two by creating his own more lethal Coronavirus strain that causes pneumonia (as if this was actually novel in comparison with the “concocted” one as he sees it)

First, there is a new coronavirus that causes pneumonia, which is far more lethal than this concocted version that appears to have been manufactured to set in motion this Great Reset.

He once again uses this new fear campaign to sell his e-book “The Great Reset”, a Government Conspiracy Theory that among other weird alleged objectives aims to depopulate the world. It feels like he has learned from Zero Hedge and from his own criminal case that conspiracies make money!

Zero Hedge, Russia, and the Business of Conspiracies

And keeping the audience happy is what really matters. An audience comprised of racists, anti-Semites, extreme right-wingers, and conspiracy wingnuts is a valuable one. They are all credulous fools, and, as all dime-store preachers know, the credulous are easily monetized. Conspiracies are big business.

Self-Destruction

In Is Europe Deliberately Crushing their Economy for the Great Reset? on Oct 30, 2020, he creates the conspiracy theory that European leaders are using the pandemic to “crush” their own economies:

There is absolutely NO possible way these people do not know what they are doing. This is a deliberate action to use COVID-19 to crush the economy and the people into submission.

Endless U-Turns follow

Later, after it becomes inescapable that the Covid-19 pandemic is real and cannot be denied, he changes subject once again and endorses in his blog the Wuhan lab gain-of-function origin theory.

Cassie of Sydney
December 4, 2023 8:08 am

Tim Blair gets it. But then it isn’t hard, there really is a right side and a wrong side.

They’ve been given a historical opportunity to pick the right side and they’ve gone with the Nazis instead.

Correct….and that includes that commentator here, he’s chosen his side, the Nazi side, the side that rapes, butchers, murders, decapitates and kidnaps Jews. But don’t forget the irony in all of this, this same person has come here for years and accused and smeared those of us who refuse to kowtow to his progressive woke ideology of either being Nazis, or supporting Nazis…but at least we now know who the real Nazi supporter is.

I have been haunted by the vision of Naama’s bloodied pants, a young Jewish woman gang raped vaginally and anally by NAZIS.

JC
JC
December 4, 2023 8:09 am

I have worked with governments for over 40 years.

Should read

I have worked with governments for over 40 years, Including 11 years I was in Leavenworth prison on a massive fraud conviction

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 8:16 am
rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 8:17 am
JC
JC
December 4, 2023 8:17 am

This and the other case could really upend the US economic system in a huge way in 24.

The other case is the one dealing with the administrative state.

The can of worms… LOL. More like a tin of caviar.

One Supreme Court Case Could Mess Up Chunks of the Tax Code
Justices will debate the meaning of ‘income’ under the 16th Amendment

A sweeping ruling by the Supreme Court could upend many rules affecting partnerships, multinational companies and bond investors. \

The court will hear arguments in Moore v. U.S., which challenges a piece of the 2017 tax law that imposed a one-time levy on profits that companies had accumulated outside the U.S. But its implications could reach much further, providing the justices an opportunity to define what Congress can tax under the Constitution—and what it can’t.

The case, brought by a Washington state couple seeking a $14,729 refund, raises a seemingly simple question: Must income be “realized,” or received, before it can be taxed?

Charles and Kathleen Moore argue that when the law passed, they hadn’t realized income from their investment in an India-based company and thus couldn’t be taxed. Some conservative groups have backed them, seeing a chance to block future Congresses from taxing wealth or unrealized capital gains. A broad ruling for the Moores could create a constitutional bar against some popular Democratic proposals to tax the superrich.

Tax lawyers and the government say a sweeping ruling could also upend many longstanding rules affecting partnerships, multinational companies and bond investors. Former House Speaker Paul Ryan, a Wisconsin Republican who helped write the 2017 tax law, warned in September that the case could damage a third of the tax code.

If the Moores win, investors and companies could demand billions of dollars in refunds tied to the 2017 law. And a loss for the government could prompt a wave of lawsuits over other tax-code provisions, according to lawyers.

“It’s hard to see how this is going to turn out well,” said David Rosenbloom, a tax lawyer at Caplin & Drysdale. “They really are opening up a can of worms.”

Indolent
Indolent
December 4, 2023 8:26 am

Boris Johnson set to issue ‘unreserved apology’ for COVID mistakes

He’ll apparently say that while some mistakes were made they got the lockdowns right. On this basis, the whole thing is nothing but a publicity exercise and pure hypocrisy, based on their own behaviour during lockdowns. Liar to the end.

calli
calli
December 4, 2023 8:34 am

I’m finding sympathy for the plight of Vic police very hard to develop.

Can’t imagine why.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 4, 2023 8:41 am

Ooh embarrassment! Quick someone ask Charlie about what his Dubai monarchical colleague just said.

Cop28 president says there is ‘no science’ behind demands for phase-out of fossil fuels (Grauniad, 3 Dec, via Paul Homewood)

The president of Cop28, Sultan Al Jaber, has claimed there is “no science” indicating that a phase-out of fossil fuels is needed to restrict global heating to 1.5C, the Guardian and the Centre for Climate Reporting can reveal.

Al Jaber also said a phase-out of fossil fuels would not allow sustainable development “unless you want to take the world back into caves”.

The comments were “incredibly concerning” and “verging on climate denial”, scientists said, and they were at odds with the position of the UN secretary general, António Guterres.

Al Jaber made the comments in ill-tempered responses to questions from Mary Robinson, the chair of the Elders group and a former UN special envoy for climate change, during a live online event on 21 November.

He’s correct, and the “scientists” are no such thing. They are priests of a kooky religion, nothing more.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 4, 2023 8:47 am

Monckton is not happy with Charlie.

Lord Christopher Monckton: ‘Cancel the King: Charles ‘disgraced himself, the monarchy & the UK with his half-witted’ speech to UN climate summit – ‘It is time to sweep the monarchy away’ (3 Dec)

He has a persuasive point, especially with Willy and Hairy being green as grass also, and that’s even before considering Sparkles.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 8:49 am

He needs to be impeached or whatever they do in the Vatican. He’s just horrible.

Given his age and that he seems to be experiencing serial hospitalisations, I suspect he’s not long for this world.

Indolent
Indolent
December 4, 2023 8:49 am
alwaysright
alwaysright
December 4, 2023 8:51 am

calli
Dec 4, 2023 8:34 AM
I’m finding sympathy for the plight of Vic police very hard to develop.

Can’t imagine why.

The bribes are a mere pittance and not indexed for inflation.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 8:52 am

Lord Christopher Monckton: ‘Cancel the King: Charles ‘disgraced himself, the monarchy & the UK with his half-witted’ speech to UN climate summit – ‘It is time to sweep the monarchy away’ (3 Dec)

I doubt the English have the energy [sic] to stage a revolution, even via the ballot box.

In any case, as reported yesterday, the UK is going nuclear, probably via modular reactors. Charles will be left like a shag on a rock.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 8:54 am

Beertruk
Dec 4, 2023 7:31 AM

Tim Blair in today’s Tele.
Nails it on the pali support for the shitshow it is:

HAMAS FANS ARE SALUTING A HITLERIAN HORROR SHOW

TIM BLAIR
4 Dec 2023

Hindsight creates heroes. Millions of them, every day. Looking back, we can never imagine ourselves – our sophisticated, educated, sensitive selves – ever being on the wrong side of history.

And when they hear in detail what happened at that music festival on October 7, it still doesn’t incline them to recalibrate their Hamas encouragement. “It was all an apocalypse of bodies,” a first responder’s chilling account revealed last week. “Girls without clothes, slaughtered people, decapitated. There were girls there who just broke their pelvis because they were raped. They were in terrible positions.”

History is always easy in hindsight. But it isn’t difficult to be on the right side in 2023. Just reject the murder of Jews. It’s worked before.

Ps: Hope the image linky works.
If not, I will be a ‘bit peeved.’

Beertruk,

were these the image?

comment image

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 8:55 am

Beertruk – Oops meant this Image

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 9:05 am

Australian Labor PM AlsoSleezy & Labor Foreign Minister gave Palestinan Gazan Hamas Barbarians 860 Visas

‘Galling’: Labor slammed over decision to grant 860 temporary visas to Palestinians

Former Labor treasurer Michael Costa has slammed Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong after she justified the government’s decision to issue visas to more than 800 Palestinians by saying they had issued 1793 visas to Israeli citizens.

“The way this has been handled is appalling, they haven’t come out and explained the reasons for it,” he told Sky News host Andrew Bolt.

“The other thing I found really galling was to hear the foreign minister’s claim there was some sort of equivalence by allowing Israelis to come into Australia.

“That’s an absurd position to take, I mean Israel is a liberal democracy, and clearly those sorts of people wouldn’t be having these sorts of views some of the people that are likely to come out of Gaza.

“So I think that was a pathetic attempt to justify her position.”

As Michael Smith News Points Out

Not a group we should invite here – based on Palestinian Opinion Poll on October 7th 2023

And Labor Minister Penny Wong never outlined how many of the Isreali Visas were for Arab Israelis

Arky
December 4, 2023 9:05 am

Stephen Williams
Dec 4, 2023 6:48 AM

..
Bookmark this Stephen:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hTrbrxmjgqQ

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 4, 2023 9:06 am

yes the wold is ruled by evil old c*nts

While I was in Italy in June Bignose Bergoglio had abdominal surgery for recurring hernia problems. Such a pity Dottore Alfieri didn’t find and fix the communism virus while they had the chance.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 4, 2023 9:06 am

Charles will be left like a shag on a rock.

Labour will have a republic referendum and given Charlie has now pissed off the Right as well as the Left it won’t go well for him. He’ll be remembered as the dumbest and most useless monarch in British history, having managed to lose his throne because he was fooled by charlatans into believing a myth.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 9:09 am

Cop28 should prompt a net zero rethink

I was one of the ‘Infamous Five’ who voted against the Climate Change Act. This jamboree helps explain why

PETER LILLEY

There is no doubt that divine providence has a sense of humour. As our King and Prime Minister joined tens of thousands of eco-warriors at Cop28, in Dubai, to decry (and contribute to) the threat of carbon emissions warming the planet, Alpine ski slopes were covered in pre-seasonal snow and Britain has had its earliest snowfall in 15 years.

It reminded me of the night, 15 years ago, when Parliament passed the Climate Change Act amid terrifying predictions of catastrophic heatwaves.

Then, too, providence teased us as, outside Parliament, snow fell in London in October for the first time in 74 years.

I was one of the “Infamous Five” who voted against that Act.

Not because I doubted the science – I studied physics at Cambridge and know the basic science of global warming is rock solid. An exceptional cold-weather event no more disproves global warming than fires in Greece prove it is getting worse. Incidentally, Nasa satellites show that the area burnt annually by forest fires has declined by 25 per cent since they started collecting data.

But I had read the Impact Assessment – the cost-benefit analysis – which governments must produce for any Bill. Officials said I was the only MP to ask for a copy. It showed that the potential cost was twice the maximum benefit.

Unless you disputed the accuracy of the Impact Assessment (which no one did), no rational person could vote for the Act.

But, then and since, our political class has put reason aside, preferring to use this issue for virtue signalling. Why bother about costs which in 2008 were far in the future?

Now, those costs are imminent, as people face replacing oil and gas boilers with more expensive heat pumps, and diesel and petrol cars with more expensive electric cars.

This prompted Rishi Sunak, very sensibly, to promise a more pragmatic and proportional route to net zero.

Of course, if it were true that any delay would risk the extinction of humanity – as implied by the very name Extinction Rebellion, and claims by our leaders that climate change is “an existential threat”– no cost would be too great to avoid such a fate.

So, I asked ministers if they know of any peer-reviewed study accepted by the IPCC (the UN body established to assess the science of global warming) that forecasts the extinction of humanity if the world takes no action to phase out fossil fuels.

The answer was clear: there are none.

Nor is there a serious threat of humankind being reduced to poverty, hunger and wretchedness if we don’t reduce our reliance on fossil fuels.

The central conclusion of Lord Stern’s official review of the economics of climate change was that if the world does nothing – not if we do not do enough, but if we do nothing – it would be equivalent to making us all 5 per cent poorer than we would otherwise be, now and forever.

But a 5 per cent loss does not remotely amount to impoverishment of the human race, just setting us back by two or three years’ growth.

More recently, Prof Nordhaus, who won the Nobel Prize in 2018 for assessing the costs and benefits of action on climate change, concluded that the optimum target for the world to aim for is not 1.5C above pre-industrial levels, but nearer to 3C, which means there may be scope to delay our net zero target beyond 2050.

If a Nobel Prize is not enough and you want the imprimatur of the IPCC, these are the opening words of its chapter on the impact of climate change on the economy: “For most economic sectors, the impact of climate change will be small relative to the impacts of other drivers.

Changes in population, age, income, technology, relative prices, lifestyle, regulation, governance, and many other aspects of socio-economic development will have an impact on the supply and demand of economic goods and services that is large relative to the impact of climate change.”

As a Conservative, I want to prevent avoidable change – even if it is not catastrophic – so long as this can be done at reasonable cost.

But we should weigh the cost of actions to reduce emissions against the cost of inaction. And we should harness the power of the market to develop lower-cost alternatives to fossil fuels for heating, transport and so on before forcing people to adopt new technologies whose cost has not yet come down to those based on conventional fuels.

I fear, hoewver, that will not be the approach of this conference.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 9:11 am

Climate elites should take easyJet flights like the rest of us, or be quiet

Anyone who bleats on about the evils of flying should be prevented from boarding their private jets

ZOE STRIMPEL

The Cop circus, complete with eco virtue-signalling elites jetting to a faraway land to insist everyone “acts now” to stop driving and flying, has come round again. World leaders and elder statesmen flew to Dubai this week for Cop28 (emitting merrily as they went), and in response the Green Party launched yet another demand for private jets to be banned from taking off and landing in Britain.

They insist private jets are the ultimate symbol of “climate inequality”, a claim followed up by the seemingly dubious, out-of-context number crunching favoured by the green bunch. “The richest 1 per cent of the population produce as much planet warming pollution each year as five billion people making up the poorest two-thirds of the global population,” they insist.

As usual, this is more “eat the rich” thinking than anything remotely helpful. The world is not fast on its journey to hell in a hand-basket because of private jets flying in and out of the UK.

But then, the Greens love to ban things, blame the West for everything, and cry catastrophe, much more than they like to create, invent or solve things.

That said, the idea of banning some private jets is appealing.

Specifically, those in use by the climate elite: the Leonardo DiCaprios, Barack Obamas, Harry and Meghans and Silicon Valley executives of the world.

In fact, anyone who bleats on about the evils of flying – low-cost flights possibly being the most democratic invention of all time – should be prevented from boarding their private jets.

When it comes to their international lifestyles, only two options can satisfy after years of incessant hypocrisy: they can take easyJet like the rest of us, or they can stop preaching.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 4, 2023 9:12 am

JC at 8:06.
So it looks like Marty Armstrong is still a crook then?

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 4, 2023 9:12 am

He’ll be remembered as the dumbest and most useless monarch in British history, having managed to lose his throne because he was fooled by charlatans into believing a myth.

It’s a crowded field but I think Chas will get there by a nose.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 9:13 am

“The way this has been handled is appalling, they haven’t come out and explained the reasons for it,” he told Sky News host Andrew Bolt.

Worse…before a visa was issued they’d already promised family members who’d accompanied Gazan Australian passport holders to the southern border would be flown to Australia.

That decision was clearly reported at the time; the visa announcement followed some considerable number of days later.

Gabor
Gabor
December 4, 2023 9:16 am

The comments were “incredibly concerning” and “verging on climate denial”, scientists said, and they were at odds with the position of the UN secretary general, António Guterres.

And what exactly makes the UN secretary general a climate expert and the arbiter of the “science”?

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 4, 2023 9:16 am

Tim Blair doing his bit. He shames many many “journalists”.

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 9:17 am

My thoughts Roger, Pope Francis 86, is missing half a lung already, has a lung infection/inflammation and people are wondering why he wrote a letter rather than made a video.

Crossie
Crossie
December 4, 2023 9:17 am

Al Jaber made the comments in ill-tempered responses to questions from Mary Robinson, the chair of the Elders group and a former UN special envoy for climate change, during a live online event on 21 November.

He’s correct, and the “scientists” are no such thing. They are priests of a kooky religion, nothing more.

What is this Elders group rubbish? Let’s call them what they are, megalomaniacs. The “scientists” don’t rate anything more dignified than witch doctors.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 9:18 am

He’ll be remembered as the dumbest and most useless monarch in British history, having managed to lose his throne because he was fooled by charlatans into believing a myth.

Even dumber. He could believe the myth if he wanted to and keep experimenting with carbon sequestering, low impact farming techniques and organic hops & barley on his estates to his heart’s content. All he had to do as king was keep his trap shut.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 9:19 am

The AFR View

A permanent ceasefire would be just another temporary truce

Supporters of a genuine peace process should hope Israel can finish the job of protecting itself from Hamas as quickly as possible.

The end of the temporary truce in Gaza following the breakdown of negotiations between Israel and Hamas over the further release of hostages is a tragedy for the loved ones of the more than 100 Israelis still held captive.

The resumption of Israel’s air strikes and artillery bombardment is also tragic for the people of Gaza as the death toll that has already surpassed 15,000 men, women and children will start to rise again.

That will intensify the debate in Western political and media circles about whether Israel’s response to Hamas’s barbarous October 7 attack, which murdered at least 1200 Israelis, is proportionate.

In Australia, that debate began on October 8 when Foreign Minister Penny Wong warned Israel to show “restraint”, even before it had fired a single shot in justified anger at the greatest loss of Jewish life in a single day since the end of the Holocaust in 1945.

Almost two months after the war began, Israel’s military strategy of ending Hamas’s rule in Gaza is now coming under increased international pressure as sympathy for the plight of ordinary Gazans sways global attitudes and increases domestic political opposition to the war in Gaza.

That is underlined by the seeming wavering support of Israel’s closest ally.

US Vice President Kamala Harris has, on the one hand, backed Israel’s right of self-defence while on the other declaring that “too many innocent Palestinians have been killed”.

Meanwhile, Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin has warned that Israel not only has a “moral responsibility” to avoid civilian casualties but also a strategic reason to avoid radicalising the civilian population and driving them into the arms of Hamas.

What Israel’s plan is for Gaza after rooting out Hamas remains worryingly unknown, given the risks an Israeli reoccupation could get bogged down in the same kind of breeding ground for terrorism that led to the insurgency in Iraq in the aftermath of the US invasion in 2003.

Yet as was the case with liberating Germany from Nazi rule in 1945, the military reality appears to be that there is no way Israel can achieve its war aim of destroying Hamas without inflicting collateral damage on one of the world’s most densely populated strips of land.

Unlike its terrorist foe, the democratic state of Israel does not deliberately target civilians; it warns ordinary Palestinians to move out of the line of fire.

The moral responsibility for the loss of innocent Palestinian lives lies with the Hamas leaders responsible for the horrifying incursion into southern Israel and for locating its tunnels and command network under civilian infrastructure.

Claims by street marchers and fellow travellers in the global “human rights” industry that the Israeli government – which is seeking to destroy the leadership of the Iranian-backed Islamist terrorist organisation whose charter is to wipe Israel off the map – is perpetrating genocide in Gaza is slanderous sloganising and worse.

Unlike its terrorist foe, the democratic state of Israel does not deliberately target civilians; it warns ordinary Palestinians to move out of the line of fire.

And yet the reality is every tragic civilian death caused by an Israeli bomb or shell is becoming a propaganda victory for Hamas. Hence, as hostilities resume in Gaza, Israel confronts an increasingly diabolical choice.

Fresh TV images of dead and wounded Palestinians amid the rubble of exploded buildings will risk fuelling the growing international calls for a “permanent ceasefire”.

However, that cry is a misnomer when it involves no credible way of bringing Hamas to justice or ending its rule in Gaza.

Would a permanent ceasefire therefore just be another temporary truce when no one seriously expects Hamas to alter its charter and permanently lay down its rocket launchers used to kill, maim and terrorise Israeli civilians?

After the bloodletting of October 7 sparked the fresh chapter in the cycle of violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict – and despite the risk that resuming military operations could risk Israel’s security by sparking a wider conflict in the Middle East – any diminished hopes for a longed-for two-state solution now must surely rest, at a minimum, on a fresh political start in Gaza.

All true supporters of a genuine peace process – one that will deliver Palestinian statehood in Gaza and the West Bank and recognise the right of the Jewish homeland to exist – should hope that Israel can finish the job of protecting itself from Hamas as quickly as possible.

At the same time, global opinion is united in calling on the Israeli government to continue doing everything possible to minimise the loss of innocent life in Gaza.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 9:20 am

What is this Elders group rubbish? Let’s call them what they are…

Troughers who don’t know when to retire from public life gracefully.

JC
JC
December 4, 2023 9:22 am

Sancho Panzer
Dec 4, 2023 9:12 AM

JC at 8:06.
So it looks like Marty Armstrong is still a crook then?

At the rate he’s going, Marty’s going to spend a few more years in a cell shared with a few of his paid accolades. Dragnet may have to go defense counsel. 🙂

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 9:22 am

Nine lefty weasels in the NSW Liberal Party who think ‘the game’ is all about demographics … the age of voters.

In truth, politics is about psychographics … what people think.

But these smug dickheads know better…

‘Adapt or die’: The Millennial Liberals pushing to ditch Boomers for younger voters
smh.com.au

For every one Boomer you lose, you could pick up 10 aspirational, young professionals that want to enter the housing market,’’ he said.

‘‘We can win those voters, but you’ve got to be willing to lose a handful of voters at the Boomer end to pick up a whole lot more voters at the Millennial end.’’

The clueless quote above comes from a Chris Rath MLC who is a treacherous-type of Liberal left Faction game player.

He’s a member of the NSW Upper House after a career as a political arse-licker.

Never had a real job outside of lobbying and politics.

He’s the kind who hates the kind of people who actually vote for the Liberals and their values.

He’s another Matt Kean / Andrew Bragg / Michael Photios drone.

They know how to fix the Liberal Party … yeah, fix it real good by burying it.

The phrase “f*ck wit” comes to mind.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 4, 2023 9:23 am

Every politician who accepted ANY money from a Pharmaceutical company, directly or indirectly, should be removed from office. The head of Pfizer should be criminally charged and dragged in front of the people in chains like a dog.

I really must object to people using dogs as a derogation – dogs are honourable creatures — rabid dogs however are a different thing perhaps the adjective ‘rabid’ should always precede the word dog — a better animal to denote something vile and derogatory is the hyena – because that’s what these bastards are.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 4, 2023 9:24 am

Chook fights turtle.

Turtle threatens to sink $14bn hydro hopes (Paywallian)

Potential destruction of habitat for a critically endangered turtle is threatening to thwart a $14bn pumped hydro project crucial to the Palaszczuk government’s renewable energy targets.

Fourteen billion for a project which doesn’t make any electricity seems quite pricey, even before the inevitable budget blowouts. Snowy 2.0 is reckoned now to be 10 times over budget by the time it is complete, so you can believe the Chook’s #metoo version could easily be likewise. I wonder how many nuke plants all that wasted dosh could build?

Crossie
Crossie
December 4, 2023 9:25 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Dec 4, 2023 9:06 AM
Charles will be left like a shag on a rock.

Labour will have a republic referendum and given Charlie has now pissed off the Right as well as the Left it won’t go well for him. He’ll be remembered as the dumbest and most useless monarch in British history, having managed to lose his throne because he was fooled by charlatans into believing a myth.

The way things are going in UK he may yet end up the same way as Charles I once the Palestinian sympathisers reach majority status.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 4, 2023 9:25 am

The “scientists” don’t rate anything more dignified than witch doctors.


Madness. We are crazy here, because we do not support the Warmininstas.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 4, 2023 9:26 am

The fat pigs of Hamarse”? I’m sure that the pigs won’t give a pig’s arse about the connection.

pigs aren’t picky.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 9:31 am
Dot
Dot
December 4, 2023 9:32 am

For every one Boomer you lose, you could pick up 10 aspirational, young professionals that want to enter the housing market,’’ he said.

Not likely, maybe 1.2:1 at most but possibly less than 1:0.5.

I’m not sure what policy would shaft boomers that would also benefit the young.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 4, 2023 9:32 am

How about “should be stuffed into a cage, like a cat to be spayed”?

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 9:32 am

Fourteen billion for a project which doesn’t make any electricity seems quite pricey, even before the inevitable budget blowouts.

That would buy 14 of Westinghouse’s modular nuclear reactors.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 4, 2023 9:33 am

Modern science.

The previous odd numbered British kings, named Charles, were all beheaded.
This does not bode well for the current king.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 9:34 am

The way things are going in UK he may yet end up the same way as Charles I once the Palestinian sympathisers reach majority status.

I wouldn’t count on that.

There’s a lot of ‘intersectionality’ between Green Nazis and pro-Palestinian Nazis.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 4, 2023 9:34 am

The Israeli Defence Forces have killed Haitham Khawajri, one of the leaders of the Hamas attack on Israel on October 7.

Israeli media reports the IDF, guided by Shin Bet, destroyed a building in which Mr Khawajri, was sheltering,

Mr Khawajri was the commander of the Shati Battalion and reportedly led Hamas activity at the al-Shifa hospital, which the IDF has claimed to be a Hamas headquarters.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 4, 2023 9:37 am

Fourteen billion for a project which doesn’t make any electricity seems quite pricey, even before the inevitable budget blowouts.

This is Viktoristan! We spend money on freeways that don’t get built, desal that is not needed, pipelines that are largely unused, windmills that don’t work.

Get with the program!

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 4, 2023 9:39 am

Cassie and others, take heart that there are many of us who very strongly support Israel and say so at every opportunity.

Another excellent article by Chris Mitchell.

CHRIS MITCHELL

Misreporting Gaza is a sign that journos need to read up and grow up

(Al Ahli hospital in Gaza, the day after a mis-fired rocket landed there in October.)

9:00PM DECEMBER 3, 2023

Fascinating about the more than 300 journalists who have signed a statement on reporting the war in Gaza is how little the statement reflects actual reporting here.

Most mainstream media have for almost two months treated information from the Israel Defence Forces with extreme scepticism while publishing, without qualification, statements from various Gazan health and education spokespeople, all members of Hamas.

Either the media signatories have not been following the coverage or they want reporting exclusively from a Palestinian perspective. Point 1 of the statement calls on newsrooms to reject “bothsidesism” in favour of truth in reporting, suggesting the signatories can see only one legitimate perspective on Gaza?

How else to explain the statement’s failure to condemn the bestial murder, rape and defiling of dead Israeli citizens minding their own business in their own homes in their own country on October 7. Point 5 of the statement asserts, against all the evidence, “The conflict did not start on October 7”.

Really? Israel withdrew unilaterally from Gaza in 2005, and Gazan workers entered Israel to work daily inside Israel right up until last October 6. That’s now down the memory hole of a profession charged with providing society’s institutional memory.

No wonder so many Australian Jews feel uncomfortable about what they see as a rise in anti-Semitism: much television and radio reporting here is informed by a clear view all Palestinians – but no Jews – are victims in this war. An early example on October 17 was ABC 7.30 where host Sarah Ferguson has in fact been a rare beacon of professionalism on the Gaza issue.

(Media ‘fooled’ by ‘staged narrative’ about Israeli hostages being treated well
Sky News Digital Editor Jack Houghton says some in the media have been “fooled” by the “staged narrative” that the Israeli hostages were being treated well. “One British reporter – Dominic Waghorn – fell for the propaganda,” Mr… Houghton said. Mr Waghorn reported that the hostages More
READ MORE: Journo union’s war: ‘Treat Israel like Hamas’ | War coverage is dreadfully out of balance | MEAA backs journalists’ Hamas petition pledge | The weird editorial spell cast on ABC journalists |)

Ferguson interviewed Hamas international relations head Basem Naim who claimed it never planned to attack Israeli civilians on October 7. Nor had it planned to take hostages. All its targets were military so other groups must have infiltrated Hamas.

Luckily for local Palestine barrackers in journalism and teaching, the interview landed with what editors call “a dead cat bounce”. No one followed the story. If they had they might have learnt that civilian Gazans followed the terrorists that morning and some looted the homes and bodies of dead Israelis.

Truth about the journalists’ “open letter to Australian media outlets” is most Jews and supporters of Israel feel empathy for the Palestinians. It’s all over the Israeli media, yet here most news has been dominated by “onesideism” with scenes of devastation in northern Gaza and reports and video from Gazan journalists interviewing doctors and Gazan citizens who have lost homes and loved ones.

What the signatories have missed – and what has been largely absent from coverage here until the start of the hostage releases last week – has been reporting that “humanises” the Israeli captives being held in Gaza. Few local media have even reported that 200,000 Israelis have been internally displaced, leaving behind their homes in southern Israel.

Most have failed to report some released Israeli hostages were hidden in the homes of UN teachers and health workers who were also Hamas members. This is the media’s unconscious anti-Semitism: the turning of a blind eye to the suffering of Jews.

Some journalists on the political left have been duped on the Palestine issue since the former Soviet Union began consorting with the PLO in the early 1960s. How can reporters who support a range of social policies here back a terror organisation in Gaza that allows the mistreatment of women, the execution of homosexuals, the rape and murder of Jews and the Islamisation of its citizens?

Like “teachers for Palestine”, these journalists are making common cause with a death cult supported by the anti-Semitism of Iran and the long history of Jew hatred fostered by Hamas’s ideological parent, the Muslim Brotherhood. These journalists and teachers do not understand the complexities of the Middle East.

(Sky News Digital Editor Jack Houghton has slammed the “extremely wild claims” made in an open letter signed by “activist journalists” about the coverage of the Israel-Hamas war. Last week, hundreds of journalists signed an… open letter which called for Australian newsrooms to undertake eight steps to More …)

Even the journalists’ support for media colleagues killed in Gaza is not a simple matter. Of course Gazan journalists support the people of Gaza, but many also support Hamas and some even followed the terrorists into Israel on October 7, filming Hamas’s crimes and uploading the footage to social media.

Journalists doing their jobs do not deserve to lose their lives. They are bearing witness in the only way possible since Hamas controls what is published by Palestinians from within Gaza.

Much has been made in this column and elsewhere of the false reporting, fake death numbers and concocted pictures from the October 17 rocket fired by Hamas into the carpark of the Al-Ahli hospital. The BBC even reported the hospital, largely undamaged, had been flattened in the friendly fire rocket blast. Gazan journalists took immediately to social media to create a global storm about something that never happened.

Another hospital, the Turkish Al-Sadaqa hospital in northern Gaza, was allegedly hit by the IDF on October 30. Footage aired by Gazan journalists on social media was proven in a Reuters fact check to be of an attack in 2016 on the Omar bin Abdul Aziz Hospital in Aleppo, Syria. The footage was part of a clip published by the Aleppo Medical Centre in July 2016.

Reporting about the IDF’s takeover of the Al-Shifa hospital has been just as inaccurate. Tablet magazine in 2014 outlined why the IDF and Israeli media knew about the Hamas control centre and tunnel network under Al-Shifa. Yet here several senior journalists on social media wrongly maintained as late as last week that the IDF had found nothing under the hospital.

Tablet on July 30, 2014 reported, “The Israelis are so sure about the Hamas bunker … because they built it back in 1983, when Israel still ruled Gaza. They built a secure underground operating room and tunnel network beneath Al-Shifa.”

It’s not just Gazan journalists spreading misinformation. The US news site Axios reported on October 25 that US Secretary of State Antony Blinken had asked the Qatar prime minister to tone down Al Jazeera’s war reporting. Funded by the Qatar government, Al Jazeera has long faced criticism for its ties to Hamas.

Lest readers fear this is just US or Israeli bias against Al Jazeera, Memri on November 22 published a series of quotes criticising the damage done to the Middle East by Al Jazeera. Journalists from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Yemen accuse the network of fostering terror and profiting from it.

The New York Sun on November 27 criticised The New York Times for its reporting of Palestinian casualties in Gaza. It said, “they cite the total number of deaths reported by the Hamas-controlled Gaza health authorities as gospel, and then hide in a one-sentence disclaimer that these Hamas-generated figures do not purport to ‘separate the deaths of civilians and combatants’. Nor do they identify how many of those counted as ‘civilians’ are actually Hamas collaborators who allow their homes to be used to hide rockets, tunnels or terrorists”.

Hamas’s guidelines for activists and journalists, published by Memri on July 17, 2014 make clear how the group plays the Western media.

Hamas’s Interior Ministry guidelines specify, “ Anyone killed or martyred is to be called a civilian from Gaza or Palestine … Don’t forget to always add ‘innocent civilian’ or ‘innocent citizen’ in your description of those killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza. Be sure to always perpetuate the principle of ‘the role of occupation is attack, and we in Palestine are fulfilling [the role of] reaction’.”

Note to Australian journalists and their union: grow up. Perhaps start by reading the history of the Arab world’s attacks on Israel in 1948, 1967 and 1973 to get the “context” your published statement says is needed.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 9:43 am

The Paywallian reports:

STC pro-Palestine protest leader defiant amid criticism

Harry Greenwood – son of Hollywood star Hugo Weaving – who led the pro-­Palestine protest at a Sydney Theatre Company performance has refused to back down from his position.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 4, 2023 9:43 am

Also in the Oz.

Lawyers tell Anthony Albanese: Israel has ‘responsibility’ to defend itself, ceasefire would let Hamas thrive

(Mark Leibler, along with almost 500 other Jewish-Australian lawyers from around the country, have signed an open letter to the government outlining their views on the legality of the war and Israel’s right to defend itself. Picture: Valeriu Campan)

EXCLUSIVE
By ALEXI DEMETRIADI
NSW POLITICAL REPORTER

7:15AM DECEMBER 4, 2023 219 COMMENTS

Almost 500 of Australia’s leading lawyers have prosecuted the case for Israel’s legal right to defend itself directly to Anthony Albanese and his ministers, warning against an “incorrect application of the law” by Palestinian advocates and deepening a rift in the nation’s legal fraternity over the months-long conflict.

The letter, sent to the Prime Minister, Foreign Minister Penny Wong and Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus on Sunday, sets out Israel’s “responsibility” to defend itself against Hamas and opposition to any permanent ceasefire.

It follows a November 8 letter, now with more than 1000 signatories, that called on Mr Albanese to negotiate a ceasefire and halt arms exports to Israel and alleged that Israel had committed “atro­city crimes”.

Predominantly but not exclusively signed by leading Jewish lawyers, Sunday’s letter sought to clear a legal “fog” that had “descended” on the conflict.

“Israel has the right, indeed the obligation, to protect her population from terrorist attacks committed by various terrorist groups that surround its borders, which include Hamas,” the letter said.

It also took aim at terrorist group Hamas for putting civilians in harm’s way and for using hospitals for military purposes.

….

Rabz
December 4, 2023 9:45 am

the basic science of global warming is rock solid

No, it’s a crock of shite.

35 years of fact and evidence free anti-scientific horse manure.

Zero evidence.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 9:45 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 4, 2023 9:45 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 9:46 am

Delivery drivers rushed to hospital after e-bike battery explosion sparks Sydney fire

Three food delivery riders were rushed to hospital after an e-bike battery exploded in their apartment building in Sydney’s Inner West.

Fire fighters were called to Annandale around midday as more than 100 residents were forced to evacuate the unit complex on Booth Street.

One man was seen being taken out on a stretcher.

He and his two roommates had finished a shift around 3am and had left their bikes downstairs as the batteries charged.
Resident Michael Waples said he heard “a loud thud”.

“At first I thought someone was moving furniture, then I heard a scream and commotion,” he said.

“Two dudes emerged from the flat and there was smoke. They were saying ‘there’s a fire there’s a fire’.”

Other neighbours found an injured international student in the hallway and helped him downstairs.

He was treated by paramedics before being taken to Royal North Shore hospital in a serious condition with burns to 40 percent of his body.

His roommates were sent to Concord Hospital with minor burns.

Fireys managed to contain the blaze before it spread to other units in the complex.

Inspector Michael Woodward from Fire and Rescue NSW said there was a lot of damage to the unit.

“There wasn’t much in there, it’s a small one bedroom unit and it’s concrete walls and floors,” he said.

PS it was notable on the 9 News Footage last night of this event, that they were hosing down one of the Fireman who had been exposed to to the Smoke

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 4, 2023 9:48 am

No, it’s a crock of shite.


Rabz Johnson is right!

areff
areff
December 4, 2023 10:00 am

Such a pity Dottore Alfieri didn’t find and fix the communism virus while they had the chance.

And his genuflecting gene too.

The old bugger had no problems with the Argy junta taking problematic sorts on one-way helicopter flights over the Atlantic. Never uttered a peep.

Beertruk
December 4, 2023 10:04 am

OldOzzie
Dec 4, 2023 8:54 AM

Thats it OldOzzie.
I tried to link it to the text under the image in Tim Blair’s piece.
The text is:

I did try to find the same size image.

However, looking at the images you found, I was looking for something like this above…if it works.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 10:05 am

German Solar Bike Path Produced Green Power – For $1100 A Kilowatt-Hour!

By P Gosselin on 3. December 2023

We introduce the green boondoggle debacle of Erfstadt, Germany.

In 2018, with pomp and fanfare, the German town of Erfstadt opened a 90-meter test stretch solar bike path:

Among those there for the grand opening was the German Minister of Environment, Svenja Schulze of the SPD socialist party. Little did the dignitaries in attendance know, the rainy weather would be an omen for what the project would deliver.

The Ministry of Environment funded the pilot project to the tune of 150,000 euros (ca. $165,000).

But, as the video above shows, the 90 meters of solar power generating surface failed to produce any of the expected 12,000 kilowatt-hours of annual output.

Almost immediately the system started melting, was damaged and was unable to produce any power at all.

After 3 months of operation, the system had managed to produce only 95 kilowatt-hours. “Relatively normal,” claimed the builder.

“Setting an example for climate protection”

“That doesn’t matter,” said Erfstadt mayor Volker Erner of the CDU conservative party. “We’re setting an important example for climate protection.”

Two years later, in 2020, the plug was pulled and the project abandoned. What’s left is a path covered with tarps to keep the mess from melting and rotting away – and is closed off.

Now the involved parties are doing what Germans do best: spending years in court to figure out who’s to blame.

1000 euros a kilowatt-hour

In total, as the video shows, the green energy pioneering project ended up producing just 148 kilowatt-hours of power, which works out to be over 1000 euros a kilowatt-hour. That means it would cost you 1000 euros to leave a 100-watt light bulb on overnight!

Pogria
Pogria
December 4, 2023 10:09 am

Tinta,
I agree absolutely about not using Dog as a derogatory term. However, I am completely on board with using the term “dog shit”.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 10:10 am

He and his two roommates had finished a shift around 3am and had left their bikes downstairs as the batteries charged.

Australian guidelines, as set forth by EV Firesafe, are that e-scooters, e-skateboards and hover boards should not be left to charge overnight or otherwise left on a charger once completely charged and only the manufacturer’s charger should be used. And even then, the risk of fire remains if the battery is of poor quality, as many coming out of China are. For that reason, the vehicles should be charged outdoors.

The increasing number of such fires suggests many users are ignorant of or not complying with these guidelines.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 4, 2023 10:16 am

Misreporting Gaza is a sign that journos need to read up and grow up

. That will never happen because Chris is relying on these people being ‘journos’ when in fact they’re activists — Ask Frank Elly

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 4, 2023 10:19 am

Some talk here yesterday of former Test bowler Mitchell Johnson delivering a spray to the midget cheating houso ranga and a side-swipe to George Bailey, chairman of selectors.
Bailey, incidentally was one of the biggest duds to play the game and was something of a Mike Brearley all-rounder … he was captain and a fielder.
Bailey has labelled Johnson’s spray an “unhinged rant” and hinted that he might be mentally unwell.
Johnson’s criticism is legitimate. Bailey recused himself when the knives were out for Tim Paine, because Paine was a mate. Johnson correctly put the acid on Bailey for allowing the midget cheating houso ranga to announce his own retirement date without any comeback. Selectors are meant to be tough and make tough decisions.
A good selector would have immediately come back with, “Well, David has expressed an aspiration to play his final test in Sydney, but David doesn’t pick the team”, then give him a private clip behind the ear and tell him to shut up.
This is the underlying reason Warner is detested. If he had kept his head down, recognised he was damaged goods and lucky not to have copped a life ban, the public might have forgiven him.
But when he a Candice started sooking that he “had never been captain of nuffink” and announcing his retirement date eighteen months out when he had made one score in twelve months, they rightfully turned on him.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 10:20 am

That will never happen because Chris is relying on these people being ‘journos’ when in fact they’re activists

Perpetual youths who refuse to accept the realities of the world but believe they can fundamentally change them, which inevitably results in worsening the conditions under which the subjects of their philanthropy have to live.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 4, 2023 10:21 am

OK Pogria — using the term “dog shit”. I’m persuaded. Thank you – good call given that the head loppers are terrified of dogs and pigs

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 10:22 am

Bailey has labelled Johnson’s spray an “unhinged rant” and hinted that he might be mentally unwell.

The ad hom being the response of a man who has no actual argument to put up.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2023 10:23 am

I’m finding sympathy for the plight of Vic police very hard to develop.

Sven the backpacker will have trouble collecting for Friends of VicPlod.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 4, 2023 10:25 am

The increasing number of such fires suggests many users are ignorant of or not complying with these guidelines.

Three guys living in a small one bedroom apartment and doing food delivery until 3am means they are fairly recent arrivals you’d have to think. Doubt they’d much care about the fine details of such technology, nor particular attention to licence raj edicts, and they’d have the cheapest gear they could get.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 10:28 am

Multiply that how many times over across the nation, Bruce?

And it’s not just their own lives they’re risking.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 4, 2023 10:29 am

Dirty Harry.
A basic guide to manliness.
I like the girl in the lift. Looks natural and dressed for a workday. Not the glamour pusses they give the extra parts to these days. Realism always wins.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 4, 2023 10:33 am

Almost 500 of Australia’s leading lawyers have prosecuted the case for Israel’s legal right to defend itself directly to Anthony Albanese and his ministers, warning against an “incorrect application of the law” by Palestinian advocates and deepening a rift in the nation’s legal fraternity over the months-long conflict.

Yes leading lawyer put those 500 against the laundry list of about 1000, law clerks, conveyancers, women’s studies majors and sundry ‘law’ graduates of former TAFE colleges and former dairy farms

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 4, 2023 10:33 am

The increasing number of such fires suggests many users are ignorant of or not complying with these guidelines.

Correction: The increasing number of such fires suggests many users are ignorant.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2023 10:34 am

Candices should be not seen and not heard as a rule.

cohenite
December 4, 2023 10:36 am

Not because I doubted the science – I studied physics at Cambridge and know the basic science of global warming is rock solid.

That rock is clay and there is nothing solid about global boiling theory. I can disprove it a dozen ways. In fact AGW is complete and utter bullshit. The only thing missing from the latest iteration of humans controlling the climate is human sacrifices.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2023 10:37 am

Three guys living in a small one bedroom apartment and doing food delivery until 3am

The new Australian dream.

Arky
December 4, 2023 10:38 am

Massive breakout in gold.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 4, 2023 10:39 am

And it’s not just their own lives they’re risking.

Life is cheaper from where they likely come from.
Be interesting to know what sorts of visas they have.

Dot
Dot
December 4, 2023 10:42 am

Massive breakout in gold.

Pray for me and good drill results 0:) at Mallina.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 10:43 am

I note young Greenwood/Weaving of the STC is the scion of a British colonial family.

Is he attempting to atone for the perceived sins of his ancestors?

Or just plain stupid to the point of being morally challenged?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 4, 2023 10:45 am

“That’s an absurd position to take, I mean Israel is a liberal democracy, and clearly those sorts of people wouldn’t be having these sorts of views some of the people that are likely to come out of Gaza.

“So I think that was a pathetic attempt to justify her position.”

Michael Costa is correct, and it is still not clear whether the “Israelis” receiving visas are Jews or Arabs.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 4, 2023 10:46 am

Or just plain stupid to the point of being morally challenged?

. I’d say this one

P
P
December 4, 2023 10:47 am

Roger
Dec 4, 2023 9:43 AM

The Paywallian reports:

STC pro-Palestine protest leader defiant amid criticism

Harry Greenwood – son of Hollywood star Hugo Weaving – who led the pro-­Palestine protest at a Sydney Theatre Company performance has refused to back down from his position.

cop this, young harry!

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 10:48 am

Be interesting to know what sorts of visas they have.

Given they’ve no skills or qualifications to suit them for other employ it would seem likely they’d be student visas they’d be hoping to convert into permanent residency at some stage.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 4, 2023 10:48 am

I studied physics at Cambridge and know the basic science of global warming is rock solid.

Global warming chemistry almost entirely counteracts global warming physics. In particular the water cycle.

The climatistas don’t understand chemistry since we know that the ensemble climate models are terrible at modelling clouds. Of course their problem is if they ever fixed that they would immediately show that global warming isn’t a problem, and their budgets would be cut to net zero.

Arky
December 4, 2023 10:49 am

Pray for me and good drill results 0:) at Mallina.

..
Father, bless our assay.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2023 10:52 am

Roger at 10:48 – Bingo. The University as an export sector.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 10:55 am

The Failure of Western Feminism When It’s Most Needed

On Nov. 25, the United Nations initiated its annual Sixteen Days of Global Activism Against Gender-Based Violence against women and girls. This will continue until Dec. 10, which is Human Rights Day.

My people are the feminists at the UN. They also head NGOs, occupy chairs at foundations, human rights organizations, national women’s organizations, and Women’s Studies/Gender Studies departments, and are prominent Talking Heads in the media.

For eight whole weeks, they have remained silent about the genocidal rapes of Israeli women on Oct. 7.

Some of these women once waged brave and determined battles against rape, incest, and domestic violence; supported the #MeToo Movement; and at least issued statements condemning the rapes of women in Bosnia, Rwanda, Sudan, and the Yazidi women who were kidnapped by ISIS.

They also supported the idea that rape is a war crime, at least in a battle zone.

However, these once visionary feminists have not only betrayed Israeli women – they have also betrayed women of color who live under Sharia law.

Most have remained relatively silent about the normalized mistreatment of Muslim women in Muslim countries and communities.

They have not organized campaigns to end forced face veiling, polygamy, child marriage, routine girl- and woman-battering, or honor killing (femicide), either in foreign countries or in the West.

Why? Even though the victims of such injustices are primarily women of color,

Western feminists have been very cautious about accusing men of color, especially men whose countries may once have been colonized, of crimes.

They fear doing so might be seen as “racist.” Or “Islamophobic.”

Worse, some feminists in the West have actually glorified the forced wearing of the Islamic veil as a form of anti-colonial resistance.

During the Women’s March in Washington, some women fashioned hijab out of American flags.

Many anti-Israel rallies and marches feature both women and men, leftists and Muslims, sporting Palestinian keffiyehs as a way to signal their support – for the oppression of women.

They do so even as the brave girls and women in Afghanistan and Iran are risking death for the right not to be forced by the state, the mullahs, or their families to wear hijab, niqab, or burqas.

These women and their male allies have led demonstrations for which they have been beaten, arrested, raped, and murdered.

I have conducted and published four academic studies about honor killing.

Most academic feminists in the West, including our icons, have never acknowledged this work about femicide.

I delivered some of my initial findings at a G8 conference in Rome in 2008 and at the New York Supreme Court in 2010.

This work also qualified me as an expert witness in cases in which women in flight from the threat of honor killings are applying for political asylum in America.

My strongest supporters, and those who actually read, cite, and use this work are, of course, women and men of color who live in the Arab Middle East and in central Asia (Pakistan, Turkey, Afghanistan, India, etc.).

I was once held captive in Kabul long ago.

I’d gone there willingly but unwisely as a bride, and I found myself trapped in the 10th century without a passport back to the future.

Phyllis Chesler, Ph.D., is an emerita professor of psychology at City University of New York. She is a bestselling author, legendary feminist leader, and retired psychotherapist. She has lectured and organized political, legal, religious, and human rights campaigns in the United States, Canada, Europe, Israel, Central Asia, and the Far East.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2023 10:56 am

Or should that be mining sector? Mining your standard of living?

shatterzzz
December 4, 2023 10:58 am

An Irish pollie using Irish-speak for emphasis! .. LOL!

https://twitter.com/Raymond82310289/status/1731233200624578619

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 4, 2023 11:01 am

Roger

Dec 4, 2023 10:22 AM

Bailey has labelled Johnson’s spray an “unhinged rant” and hinted that he might be mentally unwell.

The ad hom being the response of a man who has no actual argument to put up.

And it was done in a disgusting concern trolling way.
Of course, Johnson has pulled off a brilliant ploy here.
He has shackled Bailey to the cheat. If the cheat fails and isn’t dropped, Bailey will be immediately under well deserved scrutiny.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 11:02 am

The Dublin riots and BLM – a Comparison of Reactions

by Gavin O’Reilly

Last Thursday afternoon, news would spread throughout Ireland of a horrific knife attack on three young schoolchildren and their teacher outside a Gaelscoil (Irish-language school) in Dublin city centre. At the time of writing, the youngest of the victims, a five year old girl, remains gravely ill in hospital.

With it soon emerging that the suspect was an immigrant who had previously been served a deportation order in 2003, tensions that had been building across the country over the past year in response to the immigration policy of Leinster House, which has seen large amounts of male migrants placed into wildly unsuitable locations such as an inner city office block and a children’s school, would come to a head.

Calls for a protest in Dublin later that night would rapidly spread throughout social media.

Such protests have become a mainstay across Ireland over the past year, with the government of WEF ‘Young Global Leader’ Leo Varadkar labelling protesters as ‘’far-right’’ and carrying out surveillance of organisers in response, a strategy that has served only to exacerbate tensions even further.

Last year in Canada, under the rule of fellow WEF ‘Young Global Leader’ Justin Trudeau, a similar response would take place to the Freedom Convoy, a protest movement launched by Canadian truckers following the decision to mandate jab passports for drivers returning from the US, the largest land-border in the world and a key component of the Canadian economy.

Just as open borders policies serve the interests of the global elites that the WEF represents, via the undermining of national sovereignty and the devaluing of labour, jab passports served their interests by acting as conditioning for the introduction of an eventual mandatory digital ID, which in line with the Great Reset initiative would allow the government-corporate alliance to have an unprecedented level of control over its citizens’ finances in a cashless society.

The fraught tensions that had spurred on Thursday’s planned protest however, would seemingly attract an opportunistic element, one that had engaged in looting and the burning of vehicles in Dublin on the night.

Unsavoury scenes, though it cannot be understated that, in terms of magnitude, they are a universe apart from the stabbing of children.

The establishment media however, did not hold the same view; with the unrest that swept Dublin dominating newspaper headlines alongside accusations that it had been ‘’organised by the far-right’’, the brutal attack on the children and their teacher being consigned to a mere afterthought.

A lockstep response of condemnation, though one that lies in stark contrast to the response towards the riots that swept the United States following the death of George Floyd in May 2020, for which a minutes silence was held in the southern Irish Parliament, something that has so far not occurred for the victims of last Thursday’s mass-stabbing.

Thus, the death of George Floyd was weaponised to guarantee such a result, with violent riots sweeping the United States in the aftermath.

In contrast to the one night of looting and arson that took place in Dublin however, the mainstream media would provide cover for the months-long unrest in the US, with corporate outlet CNN notoriously describing it as ‘’fiery but mostly peaceful’’ at one stage.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 11:05 am

NATO Chief: West Should Brace For More ‘Bad News’ From Ukraine

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg in a fresh interview warned the Western alliance to brace for more “bad news” from Ukraine, according to Saturday remarks given to Germany’s national ARD television.

He was asked whether he thinks the situation will worsen for Ukrainian forces in the future, after the counteroffensive has been widely acknowledged as a failure. “We should also be prepared for bad news,” he responded. “Wars develop in phases. But we have to support Ukraine in both good and bad times.”

He said that in response to the current “critical situation” the West must boost ammunition production. “I will leave it to the Ukrainians and military commanders to make these difficult operational decisions,” Stoltenberg explained.

“One of the issues we should address is the fragmentation of the European defense industry,” he said. Countries have gone from being enthusiastic supporters and donors of Ukraine’s cause to more lately sounding the alarm over dwindling or tapped defense stockpiles, as ammo production also can’t keep up.

A week ago, a German official raised eyebrows by speculating that if Germany was forced to enter a major war its troops would only last “two days in battle” due to severe shortages of defense supplied and ammunition as a result of giving them to Ukraine.

Below are the German politician’s words, according to a translation:

All of this is also part of the ‘war fatigue’ echoed in media headlines. Still, Stoltenberg and the Biden White House are pressing European leaders to double and triple down. Stoltenberg also recently tried to swat down assertions that fatigue has finally set in even among NATO leadership.

And in his latest interview, the NATO chief emphasized that “Wars are inherently unpredictable” – but that “we know that the more we support Ukraine, the faster the war will end.”

Yet this strategy hasn’t worked out so far.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 4, 2023 11:06 am

US Vice President Kamala Harris has, on the one hand, backed Israel’s right of self-defence while on the other declaring that “too many innocent Palestinians have been killed”.

Meanwhile, Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin has warned that Israel not only has a “moral responsibility” to avoid civilian casualties but also a strategic reason to avoid radicalising the civilian population and driving them into the arms of Hamas.

The general response by the media and the media-led has been to treat 7/10 as a repeat of 9/11. An event which suddenly reared up from nowhere and provoked a military response on a third party country to weed out the perpetrators.

Calls from the sidelines for restraint and negotiations – and particularly “proportionality” – ignores, or misses the fact that Hamas has conducted terrorist attacks on Israel, continuously and on an industrial scale, since booting Fatah in 2007.

Hundreds of Israeli’s going about their lives killed deliberately by the government of Gaza in a campaign of terror figuratively and literally embedded in the Hamas State. Dozens every year.

7/10 was not a ‘once off’, a reset moment, a desperate call for ‘better selves’ to come together. Lip-flappers playing into that narrative are either grandstanding peanuts, or cynically Hamas-adjacent.
There’s really no viable middle ground.

Pick them where you see them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 4, 2023 11:06 am

H B Bear

Dec 4, 2023 10:34 AM

Candices should be not seen and not heard as a rule.

Yes.
The short-term payoffs from the Women’s Day tell-alls has proven to be not worth it.
Even if you do get to keep the white leather couch from the photo shoot.
See also, Forgotten Optus Lady.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 4, 2023 11:07 am

$500-plus legal claim over live cattle shutdown

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The Albanese government is being pressed to settle a $500m-$800m legal claim from the cattle industry some 12 years after the Gillard Labor government shut down the live cattle trade to Indonesia overnight.

In December last year, the federal government offered $215m to settle a class action with the beef industry after the Federal Court found the original decision “constituted malfeasance in public office” and ordered government to pay damages and costs.

The cattle industry had originally sought more than $1bn in damages and the Federal Court ordered negotiations to estimate the cost of the total damage to the cattle export industry.
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In November, the lead applicant in the class action, Brett ­Cattle Company, after negoti­ations with the government, lodged a claim to settle the case for $510m plus interest payments and costs, which could take the total to $800m-$900m.

The government has been given until mid-January next year to settle the class action without returning to the Federal Court, which could result in higher costs and damages.

National Farmers Federation chief executive Tony Mahar said it was clear the government needed to accept this reasonable offer and allow families to move on from a traumatic event that had been running for over 10 years.

“This latest settlement offer is an attempt to bring to an end a very painful chapter in the history of Australian agriculture that has done severe and unnecessary damage to producers, their families and the broader supply chain,” Mr Mahar said.

“The government’s political decision to end live exports showed scant regard for its own departmental advice, and caused widespread financial damage, family break-ups, and even suicide among those impacted.

“The rushed decision following a Four Corners story combined with a premeditated campaign by animal rights activists was found to have been unlawful, with the Federal Court taking the extraordinary step of labelling the action ‘capricious, irrational and unreasonable’.”

In May 2011 after Four Corners aired footage of Australian cattle being slaughtered and GetUp ran an animal rights campaign against live cattle exports, the Gillard government banned live cattle exports to Indonesia.

Three months later exports were allowed under a strict regime but the entire cattle industry lost hundreds of millions of dollars and the Indonesian market was permanently damaged.

A spokesman for the Attorney-General, Mark Dreyfus, said the delay in resolving the proceedings was not due to any actions by the Commonwealth.

“The Commonwealth has engaged in a good-faith attempt to settle the claims made by the applicants, including by making an offer of settlement of $215 million dollars in December 2022,” the spokesman said.

The attempt to close the claim from the cattle industry, involving more than 200 claimants ranging from farmers to veterinarians, comes as the Labor government and Minister for Agriculture Murray Watt are under pressure to abandon plans to phase out live sheep exports.

Even West Australian Labor Premier Roger Cook is pushing the federal government to stop plans to ban live sheep exports. Live cattle and live sheep exports are vital to agriculture in WA.

In the WA parliament last week, Mr Cook said: “We believe the welfare arrangements that are in place, the checks and balances that have been put in place as a result of the reforms around that are sufficient. We believe this will be an unnecessary burden and one that [the federal government] should reconsider.”

NFF president David Jochinke welcomed Mr Cook’s comments, saying it was time the Albanese government listened.

Figures
Figures
December 4, 2023 11:08 am

Massive breakout in gold.

I don’t understand why. Using gold as money would require the explicit agreement of banks and governments. This isn’t going to happen – as much as it should. The reason for that is because nobody will go back to transacting with physical commodities. Nobody will forgo internet banking and purchases and nobody is going to haul a kg of copper or silver around with them and try to find ways to find change for it. So a gold backed money requires banks and governments to agree to settlements in gold (say once a month domestically and once a quarter internationally). This absolutely could happen. But it won’t.

That’s where Bitcoin comes in. It is totally organic in its takeup. It won’t be long before every bitcoin transaction is as easy as using a normal keycard/phone. It doesn’t require any agreement from banks or governments and it will surpass the market cap of gold in the next few years. Keynes will finally get something right – gold will be a “barbarous relic”.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 4, 2023 11:10 am

The ultimate own goal:

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle could be soon stripped of their royal titles under proposed new laws.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex would be referred to as only Mr and Mrs if the legislation proposed this week in UK Parliament is passed.

shatterzzz
December 4, 2023 11:12 am

The increasing number of such fires suggests many users are ignorant of or not complying with these guidelines.

It’s not about being ignorant it’s more “she’ll be right, Jack it only happens in media stories” .. No one but no one wants to sit around watching a battery charge .. FFS!

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 4, 2023 11:13 am

From the Oz. Unsurprisingly, most comments not kind to the inept and morally bankrupt pollimuppets.

ADAM CREIGHTON

Deadly lockdowns the political legacy of our Covid-era panic

(Security guards at the entrance of a compound under Covid-19 lockdown in the Jing’an district in Shanghai.)

5:00AM DECEMBER 4, 2023 62 COMMENTS

This time two years ago the daily news was dominated by the deaths of older people in nursing homes from or with Covid-19. But today far more people are dying than expected, with barely a murmur of mainstream interest.

Toward the end of 2023, well after the end of the pandemic, excess deaths in the US, Australia and most Western nations remain significant, according to official figures.

In December, the Actuaries Institute of Australia said it was “not clear” what had caused “incredibly high” excess deaths in Australia, 13 per cent higher for 2022, up from zero during the pandemic. Between January and August, excess deaths were running at almost 12 per cent, equivalent to almost 12,000 deaths over and above what might have been expected, according to the ABS’s latest mortality report.

(‘The anxiety is real’: Impact of COVID being felt by school students
Sky News Contributor Prue MacSween has called on the government to support families as students are reportedly experiencing social… anxiety after years of COVID lockdowns. “The impact of COVID and the isolation, the fact that they haven’t had the social interaction, the anxiety is real,” Ms MacSween told Sky More …)

The lack of mainstream interest has fuelled speculation the Covid-19 vaccines have somehow been a cause. It’s now possible to assert in public without being cancelled that the mandated vaccines were, putting it politely, far less effective than promised at preventing transmission, severe illness or death.

One can also say the vaccines did cause injuries and in rare cases even deaths. Indeed, a survey extracted from the US Centres for Disease Control last October courtesy of Freedom of Information laws found 7.7 per cent of around 10 million Americans who took part in its “v-safe” program had sought medical help after receiving either the Pfizer, Moderna or Johnson & Johnson shots.

Demand for these vaccines has collapsed, despite official advice, in the US at least, that everyone aged six months and over should receive them. If ignoring official advice on vaccines makes someone an “anti-vaxxer”, the vast majority of Americans now fit into that category.

(READ MORE: Pandemic took harder toll on older women | Victorians won’t forget Dan Andrews’ Covid lockdown record | Demand for these vaccines has collapsed | Rate bets cool as households feel the pinch | Lockdown secrets ‘must be released’ | ‘It was like those disaster films … why were we locked down?’ |)

But it’s quite a stretch to conclude the treatments have caused mass death; rather than “safe and effective”, a more accurate slogan might have been the less appealing “mostly safe, and largely ineffective”. Some weeks ago I interviewed one of the world’s foremost epidemiologists, Stanford University scientist John Ioannidis, famous enough not to be cowed into parroting official narratives that naturally absolve authorities from causing harm.

Ioannidis, 58, has made a career out of debunking false claims, famously triggering the unravelling of the multibillion-dollar Theranos fraud in 2015. His 2005 article, Why most published research findings are false, remains among the most downloaded academic articles ever.

Ioannidis, who has published numerous studies on Covid-19, said part of the high excess deaths in fact stemmed from the success of Covid-19 vaccines in helping the old and frail live a little longer than they otherwise would have, pushing their deaths into the future.

He dismissed arguments that the Covid-19 vaccines were causing the surge in excess deaths, even if their benefits had been wildly exaggerated by their manufacturers and the public health authorities that in large part funded them.

Along with Nobel prize-winning biophysicist Michael Levitt, also at Stanford, Ioannidis said Australia’s cumulative excess deaths from early 2020 to August 2023 were in fact likely much lower than official reports suggested, in fact probably negative, at -1.9 per cent, based on their latest research.

That would put Australia among the best performers overall in terms of cumulative excess deaths among 34 developed nations (behind New Zealand, Norway, Sweden and Denmark).

Excess death calculations, he argued, have been exaggerated by overly optimistic assumptions, even if they remained staggeringly high in some nations, including worse than -12 per cent in the US.

“The age structure of the population, especially in Western countries, is becoming substantially older over time, which increases deaths,” Ioannidis explained. “And it’s unlikely that we will see the same improvement in longevity in the absence of a pandemic every year in the same rate as we were seeing in the 1980s or ’90s”. For him, the cause of staggeringly high excess deaths is not vaccines, but the Covid-19 lockdowns, which, he argues, killed more people than they saved once adjusting for the life years remaining of those who died.

(An empty St Kilda Road in Melbourne during lockdown.)

Among the top 10 most cited scientists in the world, according to Boston University, Ioannidis said it was “extremely likely at a global level” that lockdowns, which most nations introduced on and off for up to two years to stop the spread of SARS-Cov2, caused a net loss of life.

“It’s possible that in some countries life years lost due to Covid were greater, but the vast majority of damage in poor countries was from the response – not only of the response in those countries but also the effects from the rich countries,” he told The Australian.

“You have disruption of health systems … no preventive care, cancer treatments being postponed, lots of people in poverty not having good healthcare, and superposed on that additional overdoses, alcohol and drug abuse, the list is long”.

The World Health Organisation has estimated hundreds of millions of people were pushed into extreme poverty by the disruptions to global trade caused by government restrictions throughout the pandemic. There was “no doubt about it”, Ioannidis said, that deaths from or with Covid-19 were among those in their 80s on average, while “deaths from the response were likely to be spread out across the whole age range”.

Ioannidis, who in March 2020 attracted criticism for suggesting the world might be overreacting to SARS-Cov2, said in hindsight lockdown measures were “tremendously damaging (and) the benefits in terms of containing the spread of the virus very limited, if any”.

The professor said he was “very much worried” the same restrictions would be enacted again for a similar pandemic, because once again “politicians would feel cornered and panic”.

“It’s one thing to win the scientific argument and it’s a very different thing to win the political one.”

It’s shocking that governments refuse to consider they might have erred throughout the pandemic. Inquiries, current and forthcoming, into Covid-19 policy in the UK, Australia and elsewhere refuse to consider the impact of lockdowns or vaccines mandates on excess deaths, which will only fuel conspiracy theories and undermine public respect for official recommendations when the next pandemic inevitably emerges.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 11:16 am

Aussie economy left behind under Labor Albanese

While US and Europe bounce back from tough economic times, Labor Albanese’s Australia is fighting a losing battle.

David Llewellyn-Smith

There was once a time in Australia when all Canberra policymakers worried about was interest rates.

The cause for their worry was Australia’s world-beating household debt, which played out as political anxiety over rising interest rates.

Conventional wisdom suggests that the Howard Government’s failed promise to keep rates low caused its pre-GFC election loss.

But, one could be forgiven for concluding that the Labor Albanese Government no longer shares this view.

Its preoccupations with mass immigration, corporate grovelling and public spending show no concern for the interest rate pain of households.

So much so that as we enter 2024, the developed world is increasingly likely to enjoy material interest rate relief, while Australian households may face the opposite.

US and Europe relief

2023 has been a story of remarkable US economic resilience. Fed by investment into supply chains to decouple from China, the US economy has weathered an additional one per cent higher interest rates after the sharp rises of 2022.

That story is now ending as the US economy comes into land. Some see it as a hard landing and some as a soft landing, but a landing it is, and that will be bumpy regardless.

US interest rate futures markets are now pricing four rate cuts next year, and the balance of risks is tilting towards more, not less, as inflation ebbs.

Meanwhile, Europe’s economic and inflation story was very different.

In 2023, a fragile economy was plagued by supply-side inflation emanating from Ukraine War.

However, that also looks much more rosy and European inflation is crashing.

Futures markets are pricing a total two per cent rate relief from mid-2024 in Europe.

Poor little Australia

Sadly for Australian households, the local economy has decoupled from these good news stories.

Inflation is proving stickier and much more homegrown than other developed nations.

Bizarrely, as the European energy crisis ends, it continues in Australia.

The Labor Albanese Government’s failure to secure cheap Australian energy resources for home use during the Ukraine War is still shocking utility bills.

There is relief in sight, but it will not arrive until late 2024.

Worse, the Labor Albanese Government’s doubling down on the quantitative peopling national growth strategy over reforming for productivity growth has released a deluge of inflation through all levels of housing and construction.

These two uniquely Labor Albanese inflation forces now comprise half of Australian inflation.

The government has responded by using subsidies to offset the price pressures instead of resolving the causes.

This has done little to impress interest rate futures markets that are pricing no rate relief for Australians until 2025, and even then, only one cut.

If interest rate rises cost the seasoned Howard Government power, what is the public going to do to Labor Albo’s inflationist rookies when they get the chance?

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 11:16 am

See also, Forgotten Optus Lady.

What’s her ‘brand’, which she so assiduously cultivated while in the limelight, worth now d’ya reckon?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 4, 2023 11:17 am

The climatistas don’t understand chemistry since we know that the ensemble climate models are terrible at modelling clouds.

Deliberately terrible.

A proper stab at modelling the massive and continuous energy transfer of evaporation and cloud formation, from ground level into the Troposphere and above, would spoil the narrative.

Much better to just parameterise the buggers.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2023 11:19 am

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex would be referred to as only Mr and Mrs if the legislation proposed this week in UK Parliament is passed.

I thought that’s what they wanted.

Along with a farm in Canada…or something.

shatterzzz
December 4, 2023 11:19 am

Three guys living in a small one bedroom apartment and doing food delivery until 3am ..The new Australian dream.

Or as Luigi would say, “Essential wukkas .. we needz lotz ..” .. LOL!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 4, 2023 11:22 am

Along with a farm in Canada…or something.

Permanent residency in the Tower not an option?

shatterzzz
December 4, 2023 11:22 am

Given they’ve no skills or qualifications to suit them for other employ it would seem likely they’d be student visas they’d be hoping to convert into permanent residency at some stage

These dayz a “student” visa is a “permanent residency” visa ..!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 4, 2023 11:25 am

Luigi and the vagrants got their economic plan from South Africa.
Energy starvation then collapse.

shatterzzz
December 4, 2023 11:27 am

Even if you do get to keep the white leather couch from the photo shoot.
See also, Forgotten Optus Lady.

Next to the to the Coogee Bay hotel WC door in the “trophy” room ….. LOL!

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 11:27 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 11:30 am

Terrifying AI prediction of what WFH employees will look like in 25 years

Meet Susan. She’s an AI prediction of what remote workers will look like in 25 years in the strongest argument to return to the office yet.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 4, 2023 11:30 am

Luigi and the vagrants got their economic plan from South Africa.
Energy starvation then collapse.

Necklacing is back, baby.

South Africa: Seven Men Burned to Death in Vigilante ‘Mob’ Attack (3 Dec)

It’s one way of solving the used-tyre problem I guess.

John Brumble
John Brumble
December 4, 2023 11:32 am

History is always easy in hindsight. But it isn’t difficult to be on the right side in 2023. Just reject the murder of Jews. It’s worked before.

Ah, but you see, they weren’t doing it right. This time it’ll be different.(/s)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 4, 2023 11:37 am

Meet Susan. She’s an AI prediction of what remote workers will look like in 25 years

Ms Creosote.

Alamak!
December 4, 2023 11:37 am

What’s her ‘brand’, which she so assiduously cultivated while in the limelight, worth now d’ya reckon?

I’d hire her for training sessions in crisis management and leadership. Just be careful to do exact opposite of what she tells us.

There’s a Harvard business school case in the whole Optus omnishambles, perhaps.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2023 11:38 am

If ignoring official advice on vaccines makes someone an “anti-vaxxer”, the vast majority of Americans now fit into that category.

We’re all “anti-vaxxers” now. Creighton was good throughout.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 4, 2023 11:38 am

Meet Susan. She’s an AI prediction of what remote workers will look like in 25 years in the strongest argument to return to the office yet.

At least the Susans will die out without progeny and thin out the need to create useless work. There is that.

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 11:39 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 11:42 am

WSJ – Why Repairing Your EV Is So Expensive

Electric-vehicle owners are finding a surprising downside to their new wheels: They tend to be expensive to repair after a crash.

When Scott MacFiggen’s neighbor backed into his Rivian R1T pickup truck last summer, the vehicle was left with a dent the size of a bowling ball under a rear taillamp.

MacFiggen was expecting a couple-thousand-dollar bill from the repair shop and to be without his truck for a couple of weeks. “I guess I was a little naive,” said the 51-year-old San Francisco resident.

The actual bill came to $22,000, and the vehicle took 2½ months to fix.

For EVs, repairs following a collision can cost thousands of dollars more than their gas-powered counterparts, because the fixes tend to require more replacement parts, the vehicles are more complicated and fewer people do such repairs.

While those issues may ease over time, first-time electric owners may be startled by the higher costs and longer wait times.

Last year, repairing an EV after a crash cost an average $6,587 compared with $4,215 for all vehicles, according to CCC Intelligent Solutions, a company that processes insurance claims for auto repairs in the U.S.

The increased costs following collisions contrast with the maintenance savings that dealers and automakers promote when trying to get buyers to switch to electric cars and trucks.

In addition to not needing gas, EVs tend to require less upkeep. Not needing to do regular chores like oil changes, engine tuneups or replacement of timing belts means that electric-vehicle owners spend half as much maintaining their vehicles as their gasoline-owning counterparts, according to Consumer Reports, a nonprofit consumer organization.

Still, when EVs need repair, it can be costly.

Rental-car company Hertz Global Holdings, which operates a large electric fleet mostly composed of Tesla vehicles, said its third-quarter profit was pinched in part because of the cost of repairing electric models.

Higher repair costs are also helping to drive up insurance premiums for electric owners, who pay on average $357 a month for coverage compared with $248 for gas vehicle owners, according to insurance comparison website Insurify.

“People are used to hearing that EVs have fewer parts than a combustion vehicle, but that is not the case in collision repair,” said Marc Fredman, chief strategy officer for CCC Intelligent Solutions.

Bringing down repair costs is another complication for automakers as they try to attract first-time buyers and reignite sales growth of electric models, which has slowed in recent months.

Companies including Tesla and Ford Motor have slashed prices this year in hopes of attracting new customers.

Last year, on average, an EV repair required roughly double the replacement parts compared with a conventional vehicle, according to CCC Intelligent Solutions.

The way many electric models’ parts are bolted or welded in the vehicles often means the components cannot be repaired and have to be replaced, Fredman said.

When these vehicles do get into a crash, repairs can be more complex for many reasons.

The bodies can be more complicated to disassemble, and the repairs tend to require more steps and precautions, Fredman said.

Vehicles containing lithium-ion batteries also require special storage consideration because of the risk of fire when they are damaged, said Scott Benavidez, chairman of the trade group Automotive Service Association and owner of a collision repair business in New Mexico.

Those precautions add both time and cost to the repair process, he added.

The vehicle bodies themselves can result in higher parts and labor costs because EVs tend to use more exotic materials than traditional steel, collision-repair specialists said.

Some of these materials, like aluminum, require specialized tools and storage facilities, narrowing the number of shops that can perform the work, they said.

“Those shops will charge more because they’re taking on the risk of working on them and retrofitting their shop,” Benavidez said.

Repairing an electric car tends to take longer, as well, in part because there are still a limited number of shops capable of doing this type of work.

It takes 25% longer to get an EV into a body shop than a traditional vehicle, according to data from CCC Intelligent Solutions.

Those repairs tend to take roughly 57 days compared with 45 days for non-EVs, the data showed.

In the case of MacFiggen’s Rivian truck, the cost of the repair reflected deeper, structural damage that wasn’t immediately visible, a Rivian spokesperson said. MacFiggen said his insurance covered the five-figure repair bill.

The price of repairing body panels on any vehicle can vary widely, but it typically costs between $100 and $3,000, J.D. Power data found.

“Our top priority is building safe vehicles,” the Rivian spokesperson said. “Repairing Rivian vehicles is in line with similar repair costs to other EV manufacturers.”

There are signs that costs could come down as automakers build up a supply of spare parts and more independent repair shops become trained.

EV market leader Tesla has company-owned collision repair centers, as well as a network of privately owned body shops. Those additions helped half the cost of repairs on Teslas over the past decade as more shops became equipped to work on the vehicles, said Xander Walker, a former Tesla employee who worked on refurbishing leased vehicles and trade-ins.

Today, Tesla says the costs of operating a Model 3 sedan are similar to those of a Toyota Corolla over a five-year period, in part because of lower maintenance and repair costs.

Hertz Chief Executive Stephen Scherr also said he expects repair costs to come down as replacement parts become more readily available, and as Hertz purchases more vehicles from traditional carmakers with a broader network of suppliers.

Meanwhile, Scherr said the rental-car company is attempting to lower the price of spare parts and planning to perform more repair work in-house to bring down costs.

Ford Motor also expects that repair costs will eventually come down as technicians are trained and components become more readily available.

“With any technology, the more it scales, the more the cost comes down and customer wait times go down,” said a Ford spokesperson.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2023 11:43 am

Bizarrely, as the European energy crisis ends, it continues in Australia.

Nothing bizzare about it. Usually accompanied with a Ministerial press release and photo op.

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 11:48 am

Twitter is telling me Israel is reigning hell on Khan Yunis and there is now a ground invasion.
Delusional hamasisis and pallimuppets still think a win is on the cards.
Apparently the ceasefire period had them madly digging new tunnels.

Alamak!
December 4, 2023 11:50 am

Meet Susan. She’s an AI prediction of what remote workers will look like in 25 years

AI is not to be trusted on this topic. The remote workers will look typical offshore staff within 5 years. Well-paid drones will be replaced with less-well-paid drones as soon as its proven to save $$$.

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 11:53 am

It’s not just hamasisis, there are at least five other terrorist groups operating in Gaza, all of whom participatedin the 7 October attack.
2019 as a sample year of what Israel deals with.

https://www.state.gov/reports/country-reports-on-terrorism-2019/israel/

John Brumble
John Brumble
December 4, 2023 12:01 pm

If Tim Paine is George Bailey “mate”, what’s Matthew Wade? His “live-in lover”?

Winston Smith
December 4, 2023 12:05 pm

Zatara

Dec 3, 2023 8:26 PM
Samah Sabawi, a Palestinian writer living in Melbourne, told the crowd that many of her family in Gaza had died during Israel’s bombing campaign since Hamas attacked on October 7, and that she was “heartbroken, but not beaten”.

Uh huh. Name them.
Now tell us how many of them were Hamas.

And tell us where they were on 7/10.
Mohammedans have the claim to victimhood down pat.
It shows a frightening level of sophistication in the strategy of their war against us.

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 12:11 pm

The door is always open.
Meanwhile more senior hamasisis are, as Mossad satirical says, being eliminated in Khan Yunis.
Nowhere to run.

Israel-Hamas War Day 58: IDF intensifies Gaza operations
Israeli military strikes over 400 targets in the Gaza Strip since war resumed • Israel ‘open’ to reimplement ceasefire if more hostages freed

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 4, 2023 12:12 pm

https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/the-unhinged-among-us-5540299?ea_src=au-frontpage&ea_med=opinion-3

The Unhinged Among Us

(Pro-Palestinian activists chant during a protest in front of BlackRock headquarters in San Francisco on Nov. 29, 2023. (Justin Sullivan/Getty Images))

By Victor Davis Hanson

12/3/2023

Commentary

October 7 should have been an open-and-shut case of moral condemnation.

During peace and holiday, invading Hamas gunmen murdered, tortured, mass raped, decapitated, and mutilated some 1,200 Israelis. The vast majority were unarmed women, children, infants, and the elderly.

The cowardly murderers proudly filmed their atrocities and then fled back to Gaza—to cheers from the Gaza street.

Before Israel even retaliated, the mass murdering of Jews earned praise from the Middle East, the international hard left, and especially the faculty and students of elite Western campuses.

When the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) struck back, the killers dispersed to the safety of their multibillion-dollar subterranean cities. The cowardly elite architects of the mass murder fled to Arab sanctuaries in Lebanon and Qatar.

From its headquarters burrowed below hospitals, mosques, and schools, Hamas bartered hostages for a reprieve from the IDF and the release of its own convicted terrorists in Israeli jails.

Hamas shot any of its own supporters who refused to shield Hamas gunmen.

It continued launching rockets at Israeli civilian centers. It serially lied about its casualties, expropriating intended relief food and fuel for its underground tunnel city of killers.

Abroad, Hamas supporters also emulated the methods of the pro-Nazi demonstrators in Western cities of the 1930s. Unlike their pro-Israel critics, the pro-Hamas demonstrators in the United States and Europe turned violent.

They took over and defaced private and public property. They chanted genocidal anti-Semitic slogans calling for erasure of the nation of Israel.

They interrupted shoppers, blocked highways, attacked businesses, and swarmed bridges. They assaulted police.

The majority wore masks to hide their identities in the fashion of anti-Semitic Klansmen.

Why did the doctrinaire left, the youth of the Democratic Party, and the campuses outdo each other in their anti-Semitic venom toward Israel?

For the first time in their lives, many of the ignorant protestors suddenly professed concern about refugees, colonialism, disproportionality, innocent civilians, and the rules of war.

But none could explain why the Palestinians who fled Israel in 1947–48 still self-identify as victimized “refugees” when 900,000 Jews ethnically cleansed from Middle-East Arab cities about the same time do not.

The 200,000 Greek Cypriots driven out from norther Cyprus by Turkey apparently do not warrant “refugee’’ status either.

Few protestors knew that Jews have lived in present-day Israel for over three millennia. The longest colonialist presence there were Muslim Turks who brutally ran the Holy Land for 300 years until they lost in World War I and were expelled.

How exactly did it happen that the eighth-century A.D. Al-Aqsa Mosque was built within King Herod’s earlier Second Temple enclosure?

The pro-Hamas crowd has little appreciation that colonizing Arab Muslims have one of history’s longest records of “settling” other countries far from their historic birthland.

They “settled” and “colonized” the Hellenistic, Roman, and Byzantine Middle East, Berber North Africa, and southern Spain. Millions of Middle Easterners migrated to—“settled?”—supposedly infidel European cities, where they often self-segregate, and do not assimilate fully with their magnanimous hosts.

As far as “disproportionality,” it is the goal of every power at war, Hamas included.

What protestors are furious about is that Israel is more effective at being disproportionate in retaliation than Hamas and its Iranian supporters were in their preemptive mass murdering.

Targeting innocent civilians? Hamas is among the current greatest offenders in the world.

It rockets Israeli cities without warning. It mass murders Jews in their beds during peace. It exposes Gazans to mortal danger by impressing them as human shields. Hamas shoots those who refuse.

The “rules of war” are violated by Hamas daily. Such protocols require combatants to wear uniforms not to blend in with civilians, not to use them as shields, not to murder noncombatants, not to rape them, not to mutilate them, and not to execute civilians without trial.

Why then would millions ally themselves with this odious reincarnation of the SS?

Are they ignorant of the history of the Middle East?

Are they arrogant since few challenge their hate and threats?

Are they opportunists who feel mouthing anti-Western shibboleths gains them career traction in leftist-run media, academia, and popular culture?

Are they bullies who count on the Western silent majority remaining quiet as they disrupt lives, trash Western tolerant culture, and commit violence?

Like Hamas that they support, do they despise Jews? Why else do they express an existential hatred toward Israelis that they never display to any other group?

Those now on the street utter not a peep about the Sudanese Arab mass killers in Darfur, Chinese oppressors of the Muslim Uyghurs, Russians targeting civilians in Ukraine, or ISIS, Syrian, and Yemeni murderers of fellow Muslims.

Yet all of these terrorist killers are guilty of the very charges the protestors falsely attribute to Israel. But they are all not Jewish—and that explains the pass given them by our anti-Semitic, pro-Hamas street.

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2023 12:16 pm

Not my idea of idyllic but still.
Who was it that didn’t comply with the terms of the ceasefire again?
As for where Gazans will go when the war is over, what were Hamas and the general population expecting when they started the war?
Was it really trickling out a hostage here and there while Israel sat on its hands?
During the pause in fighting, he said he had an “idyllic” time and cycled to a nearby beach, picked olives, visited friends and collected a large water container to help ensure his family’s water supply.

Tom
Tom
December 4, 2023 12:26 pm

If (like me) you use a Microsoft browser (like MS Edge), every time you open a new page you are force-fed a stream of leftwing activist talking points masquerading as “news” assembled by some MS coder who may or may not have attended J-school.

One of today’s talking points is from the UK Guardian: Keir Starmer: Labour ‘won’t turn on spending taps’ if it wins election.

Translation: UK Labour will turn on the spending taps after it wins the next election (to make up for a decade and a half of Tory restraint).

PS: like Labor Down Under, UK Labour has a leadership vacuum so it has started cycling through the B-graders, Keir Starmer being the robot who replaced loony leftard Jeremy Corbyn.

Betting is now open on whether Starmer makes it through his first term after the radicals start accessing the money spigot in government.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 4, 2023 12:29 pm

Interesting, Watching the Today’s Raptor Video, I am struck by the neatness and obviously well farmed structure on the Israel Side of the Gaza Border with no sight of any productive use of land on the Plaestinian Gazan Hamas Babarians Side

See around 2 Mins 21 Secs onwards – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNmF5MQRYwE

I am reminded that Israel handed over full functioning Vegetable Glasshouses when they pulled out of Gaza in 2005 & left the Inbred Arab Muslim Barbarians to themselves, and those Idiots proceeded to destroy the Glasshouses & have done nothing productive in life since

Gazan Palestinians – A Completely Useless Bunch of Arab Inbreds permanently on World Welfare

PeterM
PeterM
December 4, 2023 12:29 pm

One positive of the MSEdge news pages is that Sky gets a reasonable exposure – so there’s that.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 4, 2023 12:31 pm

Gazan Palestinians – A Completely Useless Bunch of Arab Inbreds permanently on World Welfare

Cheeeses, I thought I had a low opinion of the Gazans…

Dot
Dot
December 4, 2023 12:33 pm

Gotta go – I have an early start at the Blended Nugget Coffee Emporium in the morning.

Now serving earth-friendly Nightsoil Kopi?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 4, 2023 12:34 pm

Betting is now open on whether Starmer makes it through his first term

May not even make it to the election.

The Labour Party base have their full Nazi antisemite SS uniforms on but Sir Keir is trying to force them to back Israel. Classic clash between lefty ideology and polling data.

Pogria
Pogria
December 4, 2023 12:35 pm
Pogria
Pogria
December 4, 2023 12:36 pm
Zippster
Zippster
December 4, 2023 12:39 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 4, 2023 12:40 pm

Apropos of the Mitch Johnson/Bailey/Warner contretemps:

Of course, Johnson has pulled off a brilliant ploy here.
He has shackled Bailey to the cheat. If the cheat fails and isn’t dropped, Bailey will be immediately under well deserved scrutiny

George Bailey might be the greatest bloke ever.

Probably not, but he might be.

According to some. Midgets, mostly.

Stephen Williams
Stephen Williams
December 4, 2023 12:41 pm

Thanks Arky, much appreciated.
Last time I did this was as a 10yo with model planes, it’s harder than I remembered.

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