Open Thread – Weekend 13 Dec 2023


The Nativity, Gari Melchers, 1860-1932

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Vicki
Vicki
December 9, 2023 3:05 pm

At the crux of it: The salaried blow-ins are vehemently & blindly opposed to backburning.

Salvatore – saw your post before I wrote mine at 3.3pm. Endorse your comments absolutely!

miltonf
miltonf
December 9, 2023 3:08 pm

Kevin McCarthy: “When you look at the Democrats, they actually look like America. When I look at my party, we look like the most restrictive country club in America.”

Unbelievable- so which side is he on? Also untrue except maybe the RINO wing of the GOP.

JC
JC
December 9, 2023 3:09 pm

Dover, and it’s okay to point the other guy is bullshitting too, right?

If someone is exaggerating their conquest or catch in a pub you play along with it or laugh to yourself or make the occasional gag.

20 years of total horsehit. 20 freaking years!

132andBush
132andBush
December 9, 2023 3:09 pm

Gez
Looks like it started at those parking/rest areas.
You can clearly see where the crews started to flank it then narrow it down.
The shed on the Charlton rd had a lucky escape.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 9, 2023 3:09 pm

I’m a English teacher in reality.

Vicki
Vicki
December 9, 2023 3:09 pm

BTW the most recent bureaucratic bungle that affected our RFS brigade was the order that all volunteers had to be vaccinated. Our then Captain opposed the order on principle & had to resign. Worse – the order caused a lot of division and loss of long term friendships within the brigade.

JC
JC
December 9, 2023 3:12 pm

Tailgunna.

Not once have a spoken about Tailgunner. I have never criticized him as I was unaware of what he was supposed to have done until ages after.

Stop lying or citation required.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 9, 2023 3:14 pm

Not once have a spoken about Tailgunner.

Who cares.
Your comedy act Jekyll to your Mr. Hyde can’t shuddup about Struth or Tailgunner.
At least not until I pulled him into line about it a couple of weeks ago.

I’ve received lots of congratulatory emails for curbing some of the more annoying habits of you both. People are sick of your bullshit.

Tom
Tom
December 9, 2023 3:14 pm

Tom how are feeling after your op? A lot better I hope.

As good as gold, GR. I actually feel extremely lucky to have been born Australian with its world-leading medical science.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 3:15 pm

Gerbil Broiling, Cats – 40 degrees* – time to start running around like chooks liberated from their headpieces, I tells ya! 😕

*Last 40 degree day in Sydneystan was three years ago, almost to the day …

Johnny Rotten
December 9, 2023 3:17 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Dec 9, 2023 1:16 PM
Were my circles restricted to office johnnies working in metro CBDs, I may well form the opinion that Anglo-Saxons can be great dinner party company, excellent at knowing whether or not one is supposed to eat the roast partridge before or after the side dish of lark’s tonges in aspic, but they have zero ability to stick to a buckjumping rodeo bronc.

Are you not descended from Anglo Saxons/British?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 9, 2023 3:18 pm

Sal

At the crux of it: The salaried blow-ins are vehemently & blindly opposed to backburning.

Quick question, are the blow-ins from a background in urban firefighting? If so, that could explain the opposition to backburning, which would not be a practical solution for a house or shop fire.

JC
JC
December 9, 2023 3:18 pm

Who cares.

You just did you clown, by bringing him up with your whitetrash pal, The Struthfactor The struthfactor is where you should be spamming and making them all giddy there about what a racially superior pub owner you are.

No more., Enuff as you’re incredibly boring.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 3:20 pm

I actually feel extremely lucky to have been born Australian with its world-leading medical science

Note that this former j’ismist (allegedlee) didn’t name check our beloved socialised healthcare system, medibonk.

He should be out there engaging in tik tok videos with some aesthetically pleasing young healthcare wukkas … 🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 9, 2023 3:20 pm

PS, doesn’t excuse their ignorance of the different circumstances of bush fires.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 9, 2023 3:21 pm

Mysterious Link Between Owning Cats And Schizophrenia Is Real, Study Says

A new review suggests that having a cat as a pet could potentially double a person’s risk of schizophrenia-related disorders.

Australian researchers conducted an analysis of 17 studies published during the last 44 years, from 11 countries including the US and the UK.

“We found an association between broadly defined cat ownership and increased odds of developing schizophrenia-related disorders,” writes psychiatrist John McGrath and fellow researchers, all from the Queensland Centre for Mental Health Research.

This idea that cat ownership could be linked to schizophrenia risk was proposed in a 1995 study, with exposure to a parasite called Toxoplasma gondii suggested as a cause. But the research so far has put forth mixed conclusions.

Studies have found that being around cats during childhood might make a person more likely to develop schizophrenia; however, not all studies have found an association.

Some also link cat exposure to higher scores on scales that measure traits related to schizophrenia – which affects a person’s thoughts, feelings, and behaviors – and psychotic-like experiences, but again, other studies don’t show this connection.

To Quote SnoopyTo Me, Cats are the Crabgrass in the Lawn of Life – Final Cartoon on the Right

132andBush
132andBush
December 9, 2023 3:23 pm

Back burning or controlled (hazard reduction) burning?

Big difference.

Makka
Makka
December 9, 2023 3:24 pm

I see Season 3 starring the most putrid character on the small screen is back in Slow Horses.

132andBush
132andBush
December 9, 2023 3:25 pm

Bespoke wins post of the day!

rosie
rosie
December 9, 2023 3:25 pm

A few questions;
1. Is that too many days in those locations?
2. What does one do in Milan apart from visiting the Duomo?
3. Re. Rome, apart from the Vatican, Pantheon, Trevi fountain, what else does one do?

Milan.
Day trip to Lake Como iirc 40 minutes by train.
There are a couple of very old churches with ancient crypts in Milan and The Last Supper, if you can get a booking.
Also good for shopping iirc handbags might be a speciality.
Rome
The Roman Forum is a half day, the teatro Marcello has lots more Roman ruins in the vicinity and is in the old Jewish quarter, there is a shoah museum and lots of Jewish food places here.
So many Basilicas, Saint Marys of the angels inside the Diocletian baths where there is also the museum of Rome, right next to Termini. San Clemente dated back the 11 th, St Pudenziana dates back to the 4th century, St Nicholas in Prison near Marcello which is three Roman Temples, at the right time of day you can for a small fee visit the crypt which has Roman shops.
Castel Sant’Angelo the former papal residence is another popular place.
Palazzo Doria Pamphilj on Via Corso is an insight into the incredible wealth of the Italian nobility, from this family related to Innocent X came the term nepotism.
All can be done on foot if you stay in the centre or hop on a tram from Trastevere (my favourite part of Rome), the Vatican is an easy walk along the river from Trastevere.
Four days will barely scrap the Roman surface, I still haven’t been to Villa Borghese (book on-line) despite visiting Rome many times.

P
P
December 9, 2023 3:25 pm

you made claims of being a pub owner. False ones it turns out too. 20 freaking years of narcissistic bullshit

He is a pub owner. It looked good and rather large when seen on TV a while back. He is very fit looking, definitely not old, and speaks very well and has nice dark hair. He wore spectacles at the interview and looked very smart.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 9, 2023 3:26 pm

Sydney is a giant heat sink during the day that then radiates the heat back at night.
The radiative cooling that occurs in country areas is nearly absent in densely built up areas and your only hope of relief is a weather system changing the wind direction.
The Urban Heat Island effect is real and is so often dishonestly used by climateers to fool city dwellers into thinking it’s getting hotter. It is getting hotter but it’s the difference between standing in a carpark on a hot day as compared to sitting under a tree in the park.
Sydney can only get worse. Melbourne is planning to up the housing density and that will set the oven at a higher temperature without doubt.

JC
JC
December 9, 2023 3:27 pm

I see Season 3 starring the most putrid character on the small screen is back in Slow Horses.

Gary Oldman? He’s a pretty decent actor and closet conservative.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 9, 2023 3:30 pm

Are you not descended from Anglo Saxons/British?

Perhaps some are, the King’s armies traveled widely in the olden days.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 3:31 pm

Mysterious Link Between Owning Cats And Schizophrenia Is Real

Well hold the talkee thingee.

BTW, modern cats are just hopeless. They have this layzee entitled attitude which enables them to just lounge around looking cute while hoovering tastee foodstuffs administered to them by their pet humans.

Jack the Cat would have had none of it. He always remembered his central mission in life – if you want some tastee food, you have to go out there and get it yourself.

The thrill of the chase being the most enjoyable part.

His hunting skills were just bloody magnificent.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 9, 2023 3:33 pm

Quick question, are the blow-ins from a background in urban firefighting?

Probably. Where would a unionised govt salaried full-time fire brigade ever get rural experience?

Then again, in Mighty Qld, the Fire Brigade’s record with burning houses is not a very happy one.

Their main skillset seems to be laying around the fire station, reading stickbooks or pumping iron, while waiting for the bat-phone to never ring.

JMH
JMH
December 9, 2023 3:34 pm

Farmer Gez
Dec 9, 2023 2:50 PM

BoN
Where do woodswallows go at certain times of the year?
We see the dusky and white browed birds in profusion at times and then not at all.
The white browed are very pretty birds.

The Dusky is a stunning bird with an exquisite blue beak. Here in October, then they disappear.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 9, 2023 3:35 pm

No more., Enuff as you’re incredibly boring.

And that sound we hear, is a valiant stousher slinking away with tail between his legs.

Heh.

Makka
Makka
December 9, 2023 3:35 pm

Gary Oldman? He’s a pretty decent actor and closet conservative.

He’s a great actor and I’m a real fan of his. In Slow Horses , you can smell his character through the screen.

JC
JC
December 9, 2023 3:36 pm

Wow, first pro-gold piece I can recall reading in Barron’s. Maybe the world is coming to an end 🙂

I think it’s worthless crap, but that doesn’t matter if it’s going up. I thought the gold hustlers here would like to see a pro-gold piece, which is why I’m posting it.

Gold Prices Are Near Record Highs. They May Keep Climbing for the Next 10 Years.
By Ben Levisohn

Gold has always been a hit or miss investment—usually more miss than hit. So I can’t believe what I’m about to say: It’s time to buy gold for the long run.

I know, I know: Gold, unlike stocks, has no cash flow, no dividends, no underlying business to value. It’s not a bond with promises to pay a certain interest rate over a fixed period. It’s just a shiny yellow metal that takes on the value that markets ascribe to it. Still, goldbugs—the true believers—love it for its history, for the hope that it will act as a store of value when inflation runs wild, and for the “intrinsic” value that fiat currencies lack. They believe it will survive when the apocalypse comes, forgetting that guns, food, water, and land will determine who is rich when civilization comes to an end and who is dead.

The numbers speak clearly to gold’s limitations. Gold has returned 8.3% to the S&P 500

Deutsche Bank strategist Jim Reid has data that goes back even further. Since 1800, gold has returned just 0.32% a year after inflation versus 3.07% for 10-year Treasury notes, and 6.83% for U.S. stocks. “Interestingly, we are only 15% above the peak during the American Civil War in the 1860s, when inflation was very high,” Reid writes. “So you can be a long-run inflationist but still be a bit underwhelmed by gold as an investment.”

And yet, gold is all the rage again. On Dec. 4, front-month gold futures traded at a record high of $2,152 an ounce, and it’s up 12% since Oct. 5. RBC strategist Christopher Louney argues that the rally in gold is a short-term response to the shift away from tightening monetary policy, the drop in bond yields, and a weak dollar. When those drivers end, he thinks, gold’s rally is likely to as well, leaving the metal stuck in a trading range. “Is there some room for gold to run in the short term?” Louney asks. “Yes, but…there are opportunities elsewhere.” He recommends taking profits.

Level headed as that view may sound, it overlooks some tantalizing possibilities. There are periods where gold can outperform for years even. It gained 56.3% annualized from August 1976 through September 1980, when the S&P 500 rose 10.8—a period of hyperinflation. It also rose 20.6% annualized from March 2001 through August 2011, when the S&P 500 advanced just 2.4%, outperforming when the tech bubble burst and the financial crisis unfolded.

There are signs emerging that a similar period of outperformance is now taking shape. Take the relationship between gold and U.S. Treasury yields. Normally, when bond yields go up, gold falls. That happened initially this time around, with gold falling from $2,055.30 in April 2022 to $1,634.20 in October, as the Federal Reserve began raising interest rates. Since then, gold has risen, despite ongoing rate increases that brought the benchmark rate to a range of 5.25% to 5.5%, from 0%. “As grizzled gold-bulls know, this is far from typical behavior and would, thus, seem to be sending an important signal,” writes Stephanie Pomboy of Macro Mavens.
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For Pomboy, gold is confirming the disconnect she sees between gross domestic product, which rose 3% year over year during the third quarter, and gross domestic income, which fell 0.2%. Rarely are the two measures of economic activity so out of sync. The last time we had positive GDP and negative GDI was before recessions in 2001 and 2007. And, Pomboy notes, gold can indeed rise with interest rates: It happened in 2004-05, when gold bulls correctly anticipated that the Fed would have to cut rates drastically. Another possible outcome this time is that inflation starts rising again, effectively pushing real rates lower. “Either way, gold is sniffing out a heck of a lot more of something (rate cuts or inflation) than the broader,” she writes.

Higher inflation or a massive recession are clearly worst-case scenarios, but they aren’t necessary conditions for gold to continue its rise. Geopolitics has a role to play. The recent rally in gold began on Oct. 6, the day before Hamas attacked Israel, reversing what had been one of gold’s periodic pullbacks from the $2,000 level. If the world continues to add more flashpoints to what is already a combustible mix, gold should at least have support around $1,800.

The bigger change might be a shift away from the U.S. dollar. Too much has been made about dedollarization, as if, overnight, the world will suddenly stop using it in most of its transactions. That’s not the case, but there is a change happening as countries try to protect themselves from potential U.S. sanctions and from the massive U.S. debt, says Colin Fenton, commodity strategist at 22V. Notably, the Asean and BRIC+ countries in August committed to using local currencies as much as possible. It wasn’t just words. That month, India bought oil from the Abu Dhabi National Oil Co. in rupees for the first time. “This is erosion on the margin, enough to get gold to sustain above 2,000,” Fenton says.

Global central banks are putting their money to work buying gold—they’re on track to acquire a record 1,180 metric tons in 2023. Investors, though, appear reluctant to buy in, with money going in and out over recent weeks, according to Solita Marcelli, chief investment officer for the Americas at UBS Global Wealth Management. “A further rise from current levels…would likely require a more convincing increase in exchange-traded fund inflows, compared with the more modest ebb and flow of trade seen in recent weeks,” she writes.

None of this precludes a near-term pullback in gold—Friday’s strong payrolls report suggests that the market may have to adjust its expectations for Fed rate cuts—but the charts point to gold getting to $2,400, up 18% from a recent $2,032.90. But let’s dream big. Chart Smarter’s Douglas Busch, for one, argues that gold could hit $3,000 if it can break through resistance on the monthly chart by closing above $2,100 at the end of December, a level that would still be below the inflation-adjusted high of $3,333 reached in early 1980.

Tom
Tom
December 9, 2023 3:39 pm

Rabz, for what it’s worth, my observation of the Australian health care system, having participated in it fairly intensively in recent times, is that it is the least broken health care system in the world — far superior to the US and UK, for example.

The key is a mixture of public and private insurance risk as opposed to the former (UK) and the latter (US).

JC
JC
December 9, 2023 3:42 pm

He’s a great actor and I’m a real fan of his. In Slow Horses , you can smell his character through the screen.

Oh Okay, got in now. I liked the show for a time, but it’s all about chasing people around and got a little tired of it all.

Goldman’s character, drying his putrid socks with feet to the fan on the office desk was truly disgusting. Farting while Kristin Scott Thomas was eating a sanga was hilarious.

Makka
Makka
December 9, 2023 3:43 pm

Global central banks are putting their money to work buying gold—they’re on track to acquire a record 1,180 metric tons in 2023.

Wait until the big Pension Funds start to ramp up their allocations of gold… and BTC for that matter. Only a matter of time. $3,000 gold might seem to conservative.

Vicki
Vicki
December 9, 2023 3:46 pm

Quick question, are the blow-ins from a background in urban firefighting?

Well, the “heavies” that appeared at our community meeting during the Gospers fire period (it raged right across the Wollemi into our valley) were unknown to locals.

Makka
Makka
December 9, 2023 3:47 pm

Farting while Kristin Scott Thomas was eating a sanga was hilarious.

The episode I saw yesterday had him farting while laying down in the waiting room of a doctors surgery, shoes off. Disgusting bugger. But 3 moves ahead of the opposition.

JC
JC
December 9, 2023 3:47 pm

Wait until the big Pension Funds start to ramp up their allocations of gold… and BTC for that matter. Only a matter of time. $3,000 gold might seem to conservative.

Won’t ever touch it again since before the GFC. It a good short when real rates are high, which is not now or even soon.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2023 3:48 pm

Proof that Kevin McCarthy doesn’t even know his own party beyond the donor class.

To be fair he endorsed Trump overnight.

No I don’t know why either, I was pretty surprised.

Maybe he’s angling for a juicy position.

Kevin McCarthy endorses Trump for president and would consider serving in his Cabinet (Ass Press, 9 Dec)

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 9, 2023 3:48 pm

I’m a English teacher in reality.

Don’t you mean Inglish tacher?

Pogria
Pogria
December 9, 2023 3:49 pm
Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 9, 2023 3:50 pm

132andBush Dec 9, 2023 3:23 PM
Back burning or controlled (hazard reduction) burning?
Big difference.

Back burning. By the way they’re horrified by that, they’d be off the planet at the suggestion of hazard reduction burn, if they even knew what that meant. (Most of these fellers got into the Fire Brigade coz they turned out to be too dumb to be accepted to join the coppers.

They’re always the last the arrive, by some hours, possibly even days, to a bushfire. Doesn’t stop them immediately carrying on as if they’re familiar with how the fire is going.

Last to arrive, despite all the “quick reaction” training & equipment, personal pagers, “fast exit” fire station, trucks “always at the ready” etc.

rosie
rosie
December 9, 2023 3:50 pm

My take, Israel made an unsuccessful attempt in which two IDF soldiers were injured.
Hamas murdered a hostage in retaliation.
NYT.
Both Israel and Hamas Tell of Failed Attempt to Rescue Hostages in Gaza
The two sides made competing claims about deaths and injuries inflicted in the mission on Friday

Both Israel and Hamas Tell of Failed Attempt to Rescue Hostages in Gaza
The two sides made competing claims about deaths and injuries inflicted in the mission on Friday.

Israeli army spokesman, Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari, in Tel Aviv
Israeli troops conducted at least one targeted raid in the Gaza Strip on Friday in a failed attempt to rescue hostages held by Hamas, both sides said, making competing claims about deaths and injuries inflicted.

The Israeli military and the military wing of Hamas gave differing accounts, leaving it unclear whether they were describing the same rescue attempt or two separate events.

Two Israeli soldiers were seriously wounded in a rescue mission that did not recover any hostages, Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari, the chief spokesman for the military, told reporters.

“The forces raided a Hamas site and eliminated terrorists who had taken part in the abduction and captivity of hostages,” he said.
In a statement, Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, described discovering an Israeli team trying to make its way undetected to free an Israeli soldier. In the resulting battle, the statement said, “many soldiers were wounded,” the hostage was killed, and an Israeli rifle and radio were recovered.

“As a result, Israeli warplanes targeted the whole area with heavy airstrikes in order to let the special force find a way out,” the statement said.

The Israelis referred to multiple hostages and did not identify any of them as troops. Neither side acknowledged suffering any fatalities.

Admiral Hagari said that the military was working continually with Shin Bet, Israel’s domestic security agency, to determine where hostages were being held and by whom, and to plan rescue missions.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 9, 2023 3:53 pm

3. Re. Rome, apart from the Vatican, Pantheon, Trevi fountain, what else does one do?

. It will take one entire day to do justice to the Musei Vaticani.

Could I recommend to walk through the the Pincio Hill Gardens there are some amazing fountains in those gardens and on to the Villa Borghese which houses some exquisite works by Bernini (the beauty of Bernini’s Daphne and Apollo brought tears to my eyes)

Also a walk through Constantine’s Arch and the Forum to see some amazing buildings and temples of antiquity — you are very lucky to have four days in Rome.

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 3:58 pm

I was taught to tell the truth. So if I see fifteen kangaroos on the golf course, I see them. And if once upon a time I met a design deadline, I met it. And if I built something, well, I may not have hammered the nails in but I jolly well designed and supervised its construction.

I’ve had a lovely afternoon going through Dad’s working drawings, selecting some to go in his old apron and into his coffin. I kept quite a number out – a design for a letterbox for my sister, a plate rack for me, and so many other beautiful pieces of furniture built for children and grandchildren. He was a true craftsman.

At this rate, his coffin will be so crammed he’ll go like a Viking!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 9, 2023 3:58 pm

Check out this bloke. He takes of his prosthetics and still wins.

Amazing.

—–

Steve Inman:

Never Judge A Book By It’s Cover

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2023 4:00 pm

Where do woodswallows go at certain times of the year?

I can’t help, since I’ve never had any around. It’s possible I have had and mistaken them for cuckoo shrikes. But it was only recently one of those recognize my existence – and accepted bits of mince tossed high up into the air. He’d see me when I was out walking and learned to sit on the power line and wait for the flying mince, which he’d intercept neatly. But that pair have vanished now they’ve done nesting, if that’s what they did. I think I’m as mystified as you are.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 9, 2023 4:00 pm

Tom
Dec 9, 2023 3:39 PM

Rabz, for what it’s worth, my observation of the Australian health care system, having participated in it fairly intensively in recent times, is that it is the least broken health care system in the world — far superior to the US and UK, for example.

The key is a mixture of public and private insurance risk as opposed to the former (UK) and the latter (US).

Tom,

totally agree Australian Health System is excellent – Praise for St Vincents & RNSH – even Country Areas as well – What Other Country has Flying Doctor Service

Makka
Makka
December 9, 2023 4:02 pm
miltonf
miltonf
December 9, 2023 4:05 pm

Can anyone here advise the best way to get my super into a SMSF? Had enough of Merce.

miltonf
miltonf
December 9, 2023 4:06 pm

Mercer

Vicki
Vicki
December 9, 2023 4:06 pm

Re. Rome, apart from the Vatican, Pantheon, Trevi fountain, what else does one do?

Besides Rosie’s excellent list – you might like to get a bus out to the Tivoli Gardens, visit the excellent Capitoline Museum (PLEASE see the statue of “The Dying Gaul” – one of the most exquisite stages in marble ever carved!), & of course the Colosseum.

If you are a history buff you might be interested in the excavations of the Theatre of Pompey & the monument of the Ara Pacis – which lists the achievement of Augustus. When I first visited Rome (more years ago than I care to remember) Pompey’s theatre had just been discovered when a restaurant owner was extending. We spoke to the owner & he grumbled that it would be the end to his place – although I believe there is still a connection.

Again, it if you are a history buff you can walk on the very stones of the via Appia – one of the most important thoroughfares in ancient Rome.

BTW I thoroughly endorse Rosie’s recommendation of the Museum of Rome next to the Terminus central railroad. It has some fabulous treasures.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 9, 2023 4:08 pm

Rabz
Dec 9, 2023 3:20 PM

Oh nurse, this needs you attention!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 9, 2023 4:09 pm

pete of perth
Dec 9, 2023 1:23 PM

At the QLD airport about to board to Perth… plane broken. Nav system kapput. Need a new plane. Perhaps 2hrs delay.

Nah, the nav system is a weak excuse. These whippersnapper pilots are just too scared to navigate to Perth the old fashioned way. Take off at midday, head roughly west, then at sunset look for the bright yellow glint off the paved streets…

😉

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 4:09 pm

Albovilles.
HT- whoever it was who coined the term today.

It was C.L. on his blog. This will stick.

Makka
Makka
December 9, 2023 4:10 pm

Can anyone here advise the best way to get my super into a SMSF?

You might look at ESuper. They are in Melbourne. Fairly painless set up. They can assist with every facet of setup and transferring funds. The bank is ANZ.

Australian Super have a set up where you can DIY select your investments from the ASX which is not too bad.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
December 9, 2023 4:10 pm

Rabz
Dec 9, 2023 3:31 PM
————–

BTW, modern cats are just hopeless. They have this layzee entitled attitude which enables them to just lounge around looking cute while hoovering tastee foodstuffs administered to them by their pet humans.

Jack the Cat would have had none of it. He always remembered his central mission in life – if you want some tastee food, you have to go out there and get it yourself.

Our long departed cat Mima was a character, the only reason we got her from the animal shelter was because she clawed the shit out of my boot as we walked past.

We figured she really wanted out.

She was a little person with fur and fangs who entertained us for 12 years, i still miss her.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 9, 2023 4:14 pm

Is this a pile on? I wouldn’t want be accused of jumping in.

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 4:14 pm

Rosie, I knew you’d have better Rome hints than me. I didn’t know about that museum by Termini. Noted for next June.

Makka
Makka
December 9, 2023 4:15 pm

test

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
December 9, 2023 4:19 pm

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calli
Dec 9, 2023 3:58 PM
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I’ve had a lovely afternoon going through Dad’s working drawings, selecting some to go in his old apron and into his coffin. I kept quite a number out – a design for a letterbox for my sister, a plate rack for me, and so many other beautiful pieces of furniture built for children and grandchildren. He was a true craftsman.

I have the drawings from when dad built the original family home and the supplementary plans as the house was extended as more of us got born.

These were men of a different age.

I am a very good builder and my youngest son is an absolute gun but i doubt we could do the same thing with hand saws and a dirty great framing hammer.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 9, 2023 4:21 pm

Carpe

Our long departed cat Mima was a character, the only reason we got her from the animal shelter was because she clawed the shit out of my boot as we walked past.

Parents had a Siamese back in the 1960s. About one gene away from sabre-tooth tiger, she would chase large dogs off the property.

As the many years passed, she gradually lost her teeth, but was not daunted. I saw her under the hedge one day, with a captive sparrow. She held if with one paw, and carefully shredded the flesh with the claws of the other, then lapped up her home-made mince.

JMH
JMH
December 9, 2023 4:21 pm

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Bruce of Newcastle
Dec 9, 2023 4:00 PM
Where do woodswallows go at certain times of the year?

I can’t help, since I’ve never had any around. It’s possible I have had and mistaken them for cuckoo shrikes.

They are much smaller than Cuckoo Shrikes, BoN. They would more of a plains bird.

On the subject of birds, for well over a decade, I have been keeping records of sightings in my area. What has come to pass is quite disturbing.

For 40 odd years I have observed local breeding Wedge-tailed eagles here. I watched them, year after year, take the kid/s out on training flights. Since a filthy wind factory went up and started spinning about three years ago, they are no longer in the sky.

That also applies to the Whistling Kite. Gone.

Isn’t wind power awesome?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 9, 2023 4:23 pm

Tom at 3:39

Rabz, for what it’s worth, my observation of the Australian health care system, having participated in it fairly intensively in recent times, is that it is the least broken health care system in the world — far superior to the US and UK, for example.

My experience- it’s pretty good if you’ve got something serious once you’re through the door. Waiting for a new hip or knee, maybe not. Incidently, that was my experience with the NHS in a large tertiary teaching hospital in the early 90s with a pretty obscure disease.

miltonf
miltonf
December 9, 2023 4:24 pm

Thanks Makka.

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 4:26 pm

I know Carpe. Dad and his team would cut a frame from scratch. And then the roof.

They did all the windows, then called in the glazier

Then did the finishing, skirts, architraves, doors.

Nothing was pre-fab.

miltonf
miltonf
December 9, 2023 4:26 pm

Rome is GREAT. It does not disappoint. The Forum, the Curia and the Pantheon are my favourites. The train trip is Ostia is worthwhile too.

Crossie
Crossie
December 9, 2023 4:29 pm

There is no internet in my suburb so I am commenting from my phone. Optus sent a message that they are working on it and some time later that the problem is fixed. It wasn’t. Shortly after another text that they are still working on the problem followed by a text saying all fixed. Still no access. There are no adults in that company.

eric hinton
eric hinton
December 9, 2023 4:30 pm

These whippersnapper pilots are just too scared to navigate to Perth the old fashioned way. Take off at midday, head roughly west, then at sunset look for the bright yellow glint off the paved streets…

Flying to Perth from Melbourne or Sydney we came back over the coast at a cape I didn’t recognize. Nor did a flight attendant and she said she would go and ask the captain. She returned with a road map of Australia and pointing out Cape Pasley said the captain assures me this is not the map he is using to get you to Perth.

Vicki
Vicki
December 9, 2023 4:34 pm

hamas ‘military police’ so dumb they didn’t know they had kidnapped Thais and a Nepalese. Also the one with the grenade in his ‘pocket’ most likely threw it in the farm workers’ dormitory, the Thais didn’t injure themselves.

Rosie – that was such an important video – for me, anyway. What idiots the workhorses of Hamas are!!! It would have been obvious to any “thinking” person that those in the Israeli kibbutz were Asian workers! The poor damn Thais plaintively trying to tell them that they were from Thailand.

And as for the grenade that one of them put in his pocket ……..!!!!!!

Just played it back for my husband. An amazing piece that has come onto X.

Makka
Makka
December 9, 2023 4:36 pm

These whippersnapper pilots are just too scared to navigate to Perth the old fashioned way.

Flying from Bris to Perth every fortnight a decade back, the route took us sometimes wayyyyy out into the Bight and then back crossing at Esperence. It was sometimes 5 1/2 hrs ffs. To avoid the jet stream head on.

Vicki
Vicki
December 9, 2023 4:39 pm

As the many years passed, she gradually lost her teeth, but was not daunted. I saw her under the hedge one day, with a captive sparrow. She held if with one paw, and carefully shredded the flesh with the claws of the other, then lapped up her home-made mince.

OMG! We had an Abyssinian female years ago – she lived just past her 19th birthday & was much beloved. She would capture birds & bring them into the house to deposit in a sunken bath we had at the time. She would just sit & terrify the thing. It was like a lustral area of sacrifice!

Rabz
December 9, 2023 4:41 pm

Indeed Carpes – Cats with character are hilarious.

Jack the cat used to delight in winding my ol’ man up, in various different ways.

It was a game, which both of them enthusiastically engaged in.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2023 4:42 pm

Surely the bright burning beacon of the McGowan codpiece can guide the pilots to safety?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2023 4:46 pm

Ive uncovered some more stupidium, the densest, most impervious substance known to the Guardian comments section.

Hows this for the hottest of hot takes on how capitalism is bad, and the fossil fuel industry =capitalism….

Capitalism will not willingly give up its fossil fuelled stranglehold over humanity. People need to look into what happened in the UK when textile mills were run using watermills, and how fossil fuels took that business model away from the water wheel and enslaved a population into working in filthy, life shortening and enormously polluted cities.

Also: Birds are real
: Jet fuel cant melt steel beams
: The Wu-flu vaccines are safe and 100% effective.

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 9, 2023 4:47 pm

Feathers fly in the art world

Prominent Australian artist Mike Parr has had his contract with Anna Schwartz Gallery terminated over a performance work that referenced the Israel-Gaza War…Titled Going Home, Parr’s performance took place over four and a half hours from midday on Saturday [and] involved Parr painting text on the walls of the gallery with his eyes shut. The text was read aloud by an assistant and drawn from essays taken from the London Review of Books, Guardian Australia and quotes from unattributed sources.

Good grief. People pay for such garbage? Terminate his contract due to a lack of talent. No other reason needed. Take a look for yourself. It’s just awful and that’s solely from an aesthetic perspective.

Parr was compelled by a conversation he had with Schwartz prior to the performance in which he alleges that she told him pro-Palestinian protests were “just young people virtue signalling”.

To be honest, it wouldn’t surprise me if this is true. I bet this Parr guy has been smearing every bog standard inner city lefty victim narrative on the walls of Schwartz’s gallery since forever, and she’s loved it and cheered him on. He’s maybe a bit confused at the about-face. Hang on, I thought we were on the same team!

JC
JC
December 9, 2023 4:47 pm

I don’t know what to make of this.

Pleads down the charges and gets a slap on the wrist while others go to jail. Surely not likely now after the previous fiasco.

Jail!?

Would demented let him go to jail when he could pardon him with a pen stroke.

If he does pardon, that would be the end of the presidency.

Stall the case until after the election and offer a pardon win or lose to Trump. No terms left if he wins.

Former federal prosecutor Will Scharf broke down the latest federal indictment against Hunter Biden.

The Justice Department on Thursday filed new criminal charges against Hunter Biden.

Hunter Biden was hit with a 9-count indictment filed in the Central District of California: Tax evasion, failure to file/pay taxes, and false/fraudulent tax return.

The new indictment was handed down by Special Counsel David Weiss after a sweetheart plea deal on tax charges fell apart over the summer.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2023 4:48 pm

Since a filthy wind factory went up and started spinning about three years ago, they are no longer in the sky.

JMH – I’m sad to hear that. I know it intellectually from all I’ve read but fortunately it hasn’t happened here. I may’ve helped talk the local council away from building some turbines here, I pointed out they had lots of roofs on council buildings. Solar panels are not so damaging, so I think that’s how they got their wretched renewable target done. Thankfully.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 9, 2023 4:51 pm

Kevin McCarthy: “When you look at the Democrats, they actually look like America. When I look at my party, we look like the most restrictive country club in America.”

Aaaand where does he get his impressio of what America looks like? I would say from the New York Times, CNN, WaPo, MSNBC etc.

Shows precisley why he needed to be replaced.

Bazinga
Bazinga
December 9, 2023 4:51 pm

RE: LIPREADING

I wonder if we’ll get the lipreading version of such musical classics as
Alex the Seal
Excuse me while I kiss this guy and
Hold me close young Tony Danza

Vicki
Vicki
December 9, 2023 4:52 pm

pro-Palestinian protests were “just young people virtue signalling”.

Although I think this actually true, it is in another sense, totally paradoxical. Virtue? The object of the “virtue” that they are signalling is hardly virtuous. But they are too uneducated to understand this.

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 9, 2023 4:53 pm

McCarthy thinks America looks like California.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 9, 2023 4:54 pm

Cats, eh?

Our last cat was a black and white rescue moggy that we called Max. He terrorised our German Shepard and, over the years, grew in stature from merely being a (superior) Cat to … A Presence … such was his commanding demeanour as he entered a room.

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 4:54 pm

People need to look into what happened in the UK when textile mills were run using watermills

That was also a time when sewage was running free down the streets and into said magical “water wheels”. Cholera, anyone?

It took the industrial age to facilitate basic sanitation, including sewers and running water.

These dopes are hungry for a new, bucolic age of early death. The earlier the better for some of them.

areff
areff
December 9, 2023 4:55 pm

One the subject of cats, would anyone like to mind a fat, lazy white moggy for 12-15 months? Her name is Elsie, she’s 11-ish, timid around other cats and dogs, but a nuzzling purr-pot once she’s figured out that you have opposable thumbs for opening the cat-food drawer and are good for a cuddle.

I’m leaving for the US in early January, and someone who promised to take care of Elsie can no longer do so.

I’ll put up a $1000 bucks to cover her food for the year (stinky fish is her favourite) and, more than that, promise to cover any vet bills. Should it be necessary to put in her in a cattery for a week or two, I’ll cover too.

If you have mice or rats, they’ll be gone in short order. She’s the best mouser I’ve ever known.

Please get in touch if you can help. Time is running out and I’ll cancel the trip rather than have her put to sleep.

Added incentive: A big, gushing thank you in the acknowledgements at the start of the book I plan to write about America, Trump, vote fraud and the ’24 election.

Belay that, I’ll dedicate the book to you.

Please!

(Dover has my email)

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 4:57 pm

pro-Palestinian protests Hitler Youth parades were “just young people virtue signalling”.

FIFY

Rabz
December 9, 2023 4:57 pm

Summer – there’s nothing quite like it Cats – especially when it is actually real (for a change) like it was today.

The Frangipani has been vanquished, finally. Only two Petainesque offshoots remain and the Photinias can now thrive unencumbered. The latter’s growth since the Frangipani has been pruned has been a revelation.

Red leaves in abundance.

This is a good thang. 🙂

Rabz
December 9, 2023 5:02 pm

Sacré bleu – a dinobore expounding on his love of gardening – it’s a travesty, Cats! 😕

Lorelei

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 9, 2023 5:02 pm

“just young people virtue signalling”.

No it can’t be so easy dismist. It is CRT in practice.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 9, 2023 5:03 pm

Surely the bright burning beacon of the McGowan codpiece can guide the pilots to safety?

It’s actually a directional radar. Once you’re locked on, put your feet up and enjoy the ride.

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 5:05 pm

For those with a penchant for glorious b&w movies, Some Like it Hot is on Gem.

vr
vr
December 9, 2023 5:07 pm

Callie and Rosie. Thank You!!

Sancho Panzer. Re you suggestion on Florence is noted. I haven’t booked anything event flights, so can change.

Callie. Where would you spend your time in Firenze. I do know its Italian name.

JMH
JMH
December 9, 2023 5:12 pm

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Bruce of Newcastle
Dec 9, 2023 4:48 PM
Since a filthy wind factory went up and started spinning about three years ago, they are no longer in the sky.

JMH – I’m sad to hear that. I know it intellectually from all I’ve read but fortunately it hasn’t happened here. I may’ve helped talk the local council away from building some turbines here,

BoN – We have a “Green” council here. They ignored all of the submissions against the wind factory, mostly based on ecological damage.
What is disgusting is the thing is basically redundant. It can’t hook into the grid here in Victoria but it has to spin the blades to keep the things functional and that means open season wildlife killing Worse, we are not allowed to know what the ‘kill’ rates are. That also extends to microbats.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 5:13 pm

Where would you spend your time in Firenze?

At the Uffizi

The rooftop Café is just magnifique …

Rabz
December 9, 2023 5:14 pm

err, Magnifico!

vr
vr
December 9, 2023 5:21 pm

Oops… sorry about the typo Calli.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
December 9, 2023 5:23 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Dec 9, 2023 3:14 PM

Who cares.

Wise words indeed.

Do your worst in the, apparently unavoidable, daily blog fight one and all. Understand that exactly no-one other you brawlers actually gives a tinker’s cuss.

I tend to think of the brawlers as a sort of Catallaxian version of the idiots who glue their hands to assorted objects. Narcissism writ large. Or small. Make your own assessment.

CharlieP
CharlieP
December 9, 2023 5:25 pm

Thank you, Dover. I shall be more careful in future.

Johnny Rotten
December 9, 2023 5:25 pm

When Government Does Not Understand Something – Regulate It Until They Kill It

The golden rule of government is that whenever something new emerges – regulate it even when you do not understand what you are doing. While the details are not yet set, the EU wants to be the first to regular AI. This new legislation requires foundation models such as ChatGPT and general-purpose AI systems (GPAI) to comply with transparency obligations before they are put on the market. These include drawing up technical documentation, complying with EU copyright law, and disseminating detailed summaries about the content used for training.

The real problem is what is AI? I can right a program that will talk, mimic a human, list all the known diseases in a database, then you answer some questions and it will say you have this or that. That is not AI. That is just a look-up program. How do we even define AI? I fear that they will simply take a look-up program and attribute that to AI. The regulation will become such a nightmare that you cannot participate in such a marketplace.

The EU legislation stands a high probability of killing AI development in Europe and, in fact, closing off its citizens from even using AI. The classic example is how England lost the Industrial Revolution and effectively outlawed automobiles, so the Industrial Revolution shifted to America. That one decision led to England’s subservient status in America.

The English politicians were bribed by the horse & buggy industry to pass the Locomotive Act (1865), which required self-propelled vehicles (automobiles) on public roads to be preceded by a man on foot waving a red flag and blowing a horn. The legislation succeeded in shifting the Industrial Revolution to Germany and America. The status quo bribed the politicians fighting against this wave of Creative Destruction. The English Parliament finally removed the need for the red flag in 1878 and abolished the law entirely in 1896.

The Hedge Fund Industry was created by overregulation. In 1985, I warned Congress that unless they merged the SEC and Commodity Futures Trading Commission, they would force serious fund management offshore, which became the hedge fund industry. They would not merge the two agencies, so managing funds for an American became impossible. I was offered to manage $60 billion domestically and declined. Why? Because by law, the maximum I could hedge if I thought the stock market would decline was 17% using futures. If I used more than the equivalent of 17%, I would not be an equity fund regulated by the SEC but a futures fund under the CFTC. If you obey the laws of one, you go to jail under the other. Hence, you had to go offshore. For an American to invest in a hedge fund offshore, they must create a corporation outside the USA and that invests – not an American citizen. Then the IRS snoops around.

Domestically, there are countless funds that are all specialized. It became your burden to understand if you should be in bonds, stocks, real estate, or commodities. Each fund will naturally tell you they are the best. As a hedge fund manager, clients came to me, and I made that decision, which I could not do in a domestic fund because of all the regulations.

With some of the suggestions already being mentioned in the EU, the drastic overregulation will more likely than not mean AI can never be developed in Europe, and we may be looking at the same outcome as England’s Red Flag legislation of 1865.

In the US, the Constitution forbid Ex Post Facto Laws. They cannot put Socrates out of business by suddenly writing laws today that apply retroactively. While we have been working on this project to allow clients to interact with Socrates asking it questions and even monitoring your portfolio, that may become impossible in Europe.

The Global Market Watch was actually created for one of the top banks in the world. They wanted something that at a glance they could just look down and see what was highlighted instead of reading a 1,000 written reports daily.

The major question, will Europe kill its own future once again?

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/ai-computers/when-government-does-not-understand-something-regulate-it-until-they-kill-it/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RS

JMH
JMH
December 9, 2023 5:25 pm

I’m leaving for the US in early January, and someone who promised to take care of Elsie can no longer do so.

Please get in touch if you can help. Time is running out and I’ll cancel the trip rather than have her put to sleep.

Bloody hell, areff. I hope you find someone.

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 5:27 pm

In the room the women come and go, talking of Michelangelo.

The Uffizi – book ahead and get a slot. If you love art, at least a morning. I could spend days there, but the Beloved’s ability to look at cherubs and dour Italians is limited.

Stroll over the Ponte Vecchio and see the Medici’s walkway (so they didn’t have to mix with the smelly hoi polloi and hidden daggers), and visit the Pitti Palace and its gardens. Santa Croce is lovely, with its Star of David on the facade.

The David in the Accademia plus a stack of other works in various stages of completion.

Then there’s the magnificent Duomo, you walk into what appears to be yet another cul de sac and there it is. Go in, enjoy its beauty. And the Piazza della Signoria with all its statues. Donatello’s bronze of David is in the Bargello.

Shops galore, selling beautiful things. Delicious food. And you can do a day trip over to Siena. And another to the Tuscan hill towns.

It’s a good place to spend at least a week, but three days might be stretching things. Like most holidays, you have to cull.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 5:29 pm
dopey
dopey
December 9, 2023 5:30 pm

Typical Greg Craven. Long winded waffle because I’m an intellectual you know. Could have condemned Hamas in a few sentences.

vr
vr
December 9, 2023 5:31 pm

Thanks for the suggestions, Calli.

miltonf
miltonf
December 9, 2023 5:33 pm

Typical Greg Craven. Long winded waffle because I’m an intellectual you know. Could have condemned Hamas in a few sentences.

yep- ‘if you can think and not make thoughts your aim’

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 5:38 pm

Vr, once you go to Italy, you have to go back. Always leave something for the next trip.

My happiest memories of Florence was being sung to in the gift shop at the Pitti Palace. It had started to rain and all we tourists had sought shelter. The young lady behind the counter broke into song. Out of the blue, an aria. It was lovely.

Now, the Beloved and I don’t call it a holiday until we have been sung to. 🙂

rosie
rosie
December 9, 2023 5:39 pm

Florence is gorgeous but the queues for the Duomo daunting, always book Uffizi too.
And probably Santa Croce where many famous Italians are buried, it has a little museum and a cloister too.
There is another beautiful monastery next to the train station.
The Pitti palace as well as the Uffizi, go early to All’Antico Vinaio and grab a sandwich to take for your lunch time break at the Pitti, its all day if you look at everything, you can eat in the courtyard or pay a little extra and sit in the formal gardens.
Personally I found Florence a little annoying, it’s very much a classic tourist trap town with hundreds of tour groups (they don’t bother with the Pitti which makes it more attractive to visit).

JMH
JMH
December 9, 2023 5:40 pm

I’m leaving for the US in early January, and someone who promised to take care of Elsie can no longer do so.

Please get in touch if you can help. Time is running out and I’ll cancel the trip rather than have her put to sleep.

Bloody hell, areff. I hope you find someone.

She needs a one cat home and I can’t offer that.

rosie
rosie
December 9, 2023 5:41 pm

Siena deserves three or four days on its own.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2023 5:42 pm

JMH – I was lucky. Council is Labor with green tinges. They put up a renewables plan with request for comment, so I did a solid paper with references and everything. By Bruce BSc hons 1 PhD. Very useful for dealing with councils, they seem impressed by lots of assorted letters. 😀

Then out of the blue I got a phone call from the council environmental guy. We chatted and I explained the bird thing and that it’d really bad if our white-bellied sea eagles were splatted. And that they had all these roofs available.

It was a bit of a dog and pony show from me but we were on the phone for an hour, and it seemed to’ve worked. It was nice to have a reasonable chat with a council person on such a sensitive topic. The sea eagles do occasionally circle overhead the Cafe on thermals, for which I am glad.

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 5:43 pm

I’m a geographic impossibility, areff. Otherwise I’d mind Little Cat in a heartbeat. I’m sure a Melbourne catster will volunteer.

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 5:46 pm

Rosie, you have to go in the shoulder season or when all hell breaks out.

I was there three weeks after 9/11. I had the Uffizi basically to myself. It was the same in Venice.

I agree about Siena. Magnificent.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 5:49 pm

Sorry, areff, can’t mind the kitty.

Not just because they have a tendency to sharpen their claws on the leather lounges, when they’re not swinging from the curtains, or racing around a very confined space at 300kph.

Otherwise, count me in, Squire! 🙂

rosie
rosie
December 9, 2023 5:50 pm

I was in Florence in January, twice, the most recent iirc 2018 or 2019.
We didn’t even try to get into the Duomo, queues across the square.
Booked Uffizi so that was okay.
Florence is selfie stick centrale.

rosie
rosie
December 9, 2023 5:53 pm

Actually first time we were there on St Patrick’s day because American students drove us nuts til the wee hours.
Crowds weren’t as bad as the next trip but I think it’s now a must do for tour groups.

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 5:54 pm

Thanks, rosie. Off my list then. Fortunately I have an excellent memory.

Selfie sticks are the invention of Satan. You should see the idiots at the Grand Canyon!

Rabz
December 9, 2023 5:56 pm

A Borrisey free Zone, Cats … 🙂

Damon
Damon
December 9, 2023 5:56 pm

rosie, Milan.
La Scala, and the Last Supper.

vr
vr
December 9, 2023 5:59 pm

Thank you all for the suggestions.

Vicki
Vicki
December 9, 2023 5:59 pm

An article on University of Cambridge contains this statement, “Researchers have discovered that misreading of therapeutic mRNAs by the cell’s decoding machinery can cause an unintended immune response in the body. They have identified the sequence within the mRNA that causes this to occur and found a way to prevent ‘off-target’ immune responses to enable the safer design of future mRNA therapeutics.”

It is what some immunologists have been speculating for quite a while.

rosie
rosie
December 9, 2023 6:00 pm

I would take a family member again, if asked, the thing to do is get up and go early in the morning to the things you cannot prebook.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2023 6:01 pm

that misreading of therapeutic mRNAs by the cell’s decoding machinery

I love the weasel logic of “we introduce something artificial to your body, but its your bodys fault not the substances if something goes wrong”…

Rabz
December 9, 2023 6:01 pm

This Charming Gardener

The bass and the lead – just awesome – pure pop …

rosie
rosie
December 9, 2023 6:02 pm

I agree Damon, if I go to Milan again both the Last Supper and La Scala, preferably to an opera, both of which I missed out on last time.

vr
vr
December 9, 2023 6:06 pm

Vr, once you go to Italy, you have to go back. Always leave something for the next trip.

That’s definitely the plan in the future. A month in Europe every year. Next up, Spain and Portugal. 2024 trip is short due to work commitments.

Cassie of Sydney
December 9, 2023 6:12 pm

Gloriously hot day here in Sydney, I actually like a bit of global boiling. More please! Today was no hotter than the days of my childhood, either when we lived here in Sydney or after we moved to Perth. But you know what? The heat today evoked in me a ‘Proustian moment’ where I felt incredible nostalgic for an Australia long gone! The days in this country when we had long hot sleepy summers, when no one had air-conditioning, and people would deal with the heat by closing up their homes in the early morning and only opening them up in the late afternoon when the southerly would arrive, or in Perth when the sea breeze (aka Freo doctor) arrived.

Before we moved to Perth, every Saturday we’d make the pilgrimage from Sydney’s eastern suburbs to my grandparent’s home in Shire for a family lunch. My grandparents would host the immediate and extended families for long hot lunches, even on the hottest days of the year. And on those hot days, after lunch, the adults, along with canines, including my grandfather’s ratbag kelpie, would all sit under the carport and talk politics, the women sipped tea and the men drank beer. I remember looking at elderly uncles and aunts and wondering if they were a 1000 years old, they even spoke differently. I think that’s why I was always so fond of the Barry Humphries’ character Sandy Stone. We all had people like that in our families, who’d appear at family lunches and celebrations. All of them would sit under the carport and talk about the Great War, Monash, the World War, the Depression, Curtin, Chifley, and Menzies. Those grandparents and elderly aunts and uncles helped build this country, and now they’re gone, just like that country they knew and built has disappeared. They wouldn’t recognise this country now, and I don’t think I recognise it either.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 9, 2023 6:14 pm

American Forces Attacked by Iranian Proxies 84 Times in 52 Days and Biden Does Nothing

US military installations in Iraq and Syria have been attacked by Iranian proxies nine times since Friday.

According to senior defense officials, this brings to 84 the number of attacks on US forces since October 17, resulting in injuries to 66 American servicemen.

The highest profile of those attacks was an attack on the US embassy in Baghdad. It was hit by a volley of 60mm mortar rounds on Thursday, and there were no casualties

The same provocations are taking place in the Red Sea by the Iranian-back Houthis in Yemen. A US Reaper drone was shot down over international waters (Yemeni Houthis Shoot Down US Reaper Over Red Sea, the White House Response Is Crickets). Houthi drones targeted a US destroyer.

I’m sure that the usual isolationist fringe will say, “Why do we have troops in those countries? Why are our ships sailing in international waters? Shouldn’t they be on our southern border?”

Those may be fair questions, but it is also immaterial and a shameless dodge.

The National Command Authority has ordered our military to those locations to carry out American foreign policy.

But in an environment where our troops have been attacked on 84 separate occasions in 52 days, we have launched a grand total of six airstrikes in the same time frame.

And the reason they do it is that there is zero risk attached to attacking Americans or American ships or aircraft because Joe Biden is so afraid of offending the Iranians that he’d rather see the coffins arrive at Dover AFB than have panties soiled under the man-dresses in Tehran.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 6:14 pm

The goil is in fashion

From 4:07, especially, Cats – if a more beautiful womanage has ever existed in human history, then we should be grateful.

Winston Smith
December 9, 2023 6:14 pm

Rabz:

Jack the Cat would have had none of it. He always remembered his central mission in life – if you want some tastee food, you have to go out there and get it yourself.

Fatso the cat had an odd take on the Mission Of Life.
He had an unalterable idea that walking along the top of a fence and enraging the neighbours pig dogs in Wilcannia, Fitzroy Crossing, Laverton, and Julia Creek was what he was meant to do – like this. Now imagine that fence of far less sturdier construction, and being knocked sideways at least six inches out of true by three or four pig dogs, desperately lunging at the impudent intruder.
I repeatedly told him that the dogs only had to get lucky once, but he ignored me.
Then the dogs got lucky.
Oh well.

John H.
John H.
December 9, 2023 6:15 pm

thefrollickingmole
Dec 9, 2023 6:01 PM
that misreading of therapeutic mRNAs by the cell’s decoding machinery

I love the weasel logic of “we introduce something artificial to your body, but its your bodys fault not the substances if something goes wrong”…

Misreading of RNA happens ~10% of all translations. There are very ancient quality control processes including heat shock proteins, ubiquitin, proteosome and lysosomal mediated degradation to address the misreads.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2023 6:15 pm

Cassie.

This might cheer you up a little.
Haka for Israel in NZ

https://x.com/BrianTamakiNZ/status/1733058463700566380?s=20

Indolent
Indolent
December 9, 2023 6:23 pm
Winston Smith
December 9, 2023 6:24 pm

J.C:

I think it’s worthless crap, but that doesn’t matter if it’s going up. I thought the gold hustlers here would like to see a pro-gold piece, which is why I’m posting it.

JC, of course is totally sold on his opinion as fact.
Repeat after me, J.C. “Gold is a store of value” and do it several times until you finally work out that:
.1 Gold is a store of value, then
.2 It is a medium of exchange.
.3 only at the third point does it become profitable to buy and sell it.
Continually claiming that it is profitable or not to own it is a lie by misdirection.
I suppose you’re comfortable with that, as you are with any form of lying that gets you an advantage in anything you do.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 6:25 pm

Miss Jenna Ortega, looking like a normal natural goil … 🙂

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 9, 2023 6:27 pm

Saw this in a tweet linked to above:

The Shin Bet reveals the interrogation of two Hamas terrorists who abducted foreign workers on October 7, and took them by ambulance to Gaza City’s Shifa Hospital.

So…were they abducting people sick enough to need a hospital? Or were they using the ambulance as a ploy, because they know the civilised Israelis do not fire upon the injured or medical personnel, to take their hostages to a hospital similarly shielded by the decency of others where Hamas had set up a base.

Not only is Hamas incapable of reciprocating the most basic acknowledgement of the humanity of their opponent, but they seek to exploit each humane impulse of their enemy against them.

The IDF is facing an enemy so remote from the humanity, every shred of civilisation studiously bred out of them, that their strategists should in trying to understand Hamas proceed from the precept: ‘What would Homo Erectus do?’

John H.
John H.
December 9, 2023 6:31 pm

N1-methylpseudouridylation of mRNA causes +1 ribosomal frameshifting

The full mRNA\uridine study is open access. The basic idea is obvious, the details made my brain hurt.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2023 6:33 pm

A Borrisey free Zone, Cats … 🙂

Ridiculously good B side!

This Charming Gardener

I see in the Paywallian today that Peter Gabriel has a new LP out, called i/o. I haven’t checked any of the tracks yet, but any sign of serious gardening gets me to this one:

Peter Gabriel – Digging In The Dirt (1992)

Here’s the Paywallian link for those Cats who subscribe:

After a 21-year break between albums, Gabriel’s four-star effort (9 Dec)

Never one to shy away from big topics, British singer-songwriter Peter Gabriel examines grief, injustice, surveillance and the roots of terrorism on his tenth album, titled i/o.

He can be a bit feral sometimes, but is usually worth listening to.

Cassie of Sydney
December 9, 2023 6:34 pm

Not only is Hamas incapable of reciprocating the most basic acknowledgement of the humanity of their opponent, but they seek to exploit each humane impulse of their enemy against them.

The IDF is facing an enemy so remote from the humanity, every shred of civilisation studiously bred out of them, that their strategists should in trying to understand Hamas proceed from the precept: ‘What would Homo Erectus do?’”

Yep, they are grotesque.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 6:35 pm

Haka for Israel in NZ

Mole, that was awesome. However, can someone riddle me this – why are the Maori – who anyone with a functioning brain would never willingly mess with – on side with the mighty Jewish peoples?

Helen
Helen
December 9, 2023 6:36 pm

I find the Atherton Tablelands much like that, Cassie, Australia of 30-40 years ago, where there are real smiles and thoughtfulness and desire to be of assistance. Life is slower, more tranquil.

No doubt there are other similar pockets of bygone scattered around the country, real threatened species these areas and it makes me sad that one day these too, may be gone.

Cassie of Sydney
December 9, 2023 6:36 pm

This might cheer you up a little.
Haka for Israel in NZ”

Thanks mole, it certainly did cheer me up.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 9, 2023 6:36 pm

Nice thinking about days gone Cassie. Off to see my 100yo aunt, the days of my Uncle and Dad sitting out in the garage drinking beer. Never in the house. Listening to my Aunt tell a story from her life. Best storyteller ever. Playing cricket, the kids from the neighbourhood showing up. Maggie Veitch complaining when the ball went over the fence into her flower garden. In all the years she lived there only ever heard her complain about something. No wonder her husband left her. A different time but no doubt the kids of today will say the same thing.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 6:37 pm

It upsets “the victim” applecart, it does … 😕

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 6:38 pm

He can be a bit feral sometimes, but is usually worth listening to.

Ever since he appeared as a daffodil, I have loved the old Carthusian.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 9, 2023 6:39 pm

Rabz, the Maori are deeply religious.

Indolent
Indolent
December 9, 2023 6:41 pm
Oh come on
Oh come on
December 9, 2023 6:45 pm

Newly Leaked Data Shows Just How Dangerous the COVID Vaccines Are

not listening lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalaaaa see? Not listening safe and effective safe and effective safe and effective safe and effective safe and effective

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 9, 2023 6:45 pm

because Joe Biden is so afraid of offending the Iranians that he’d rather see the coffins arrive at Dover AFB than have panties soiled under the man-dresses in Tehran.

having seen the IDF Photos of the Fat/Corpulent Palestinian Gazan Hamas Barbarian Prisoners, we now know why Middle Eastern Mulsim/Islamic “Men???” wear Tents

How Many of the 10 Fattest Countries are Muslim?

Surprising Actually – America was 10th – 6 out of the 10 were Middle Eastern with Kuwait No 1

The Economist – Why women are fatter than men in the Arab world

Society does not make it easy to shed pounds

Zeinab, a matronly 60-year-old in a black abaya, washes vegetables in a restaurant in Baghdad, taking home 20,000 dinars ($13.70) a day.

But she cannot afford to buy her family a decent dinner. Her daughters dropped out of school because the fees were too high.

Zeinab gets by because her boss gives her leftovers—mostly oily food, she says—from the restaurant.

Thursday is the only day of the week she and her daughters eat fruit, since that is when people in her neighbourhood give away food for charity.

Zeinab weighs 120kg.

Though grown up, none of her four daughters works.

They are likely to become fat, too. Zeinab would rather be strapped for cash than risk men harassing them at work.

So they sit at home, doing chores, occasionally visiting their extended family. Zeinab sometimes takes them out for an ice cream or to visit a holy shrine. “It’s not like they’re in prison—they’ve got phones and the internet,” she says defensively.

Across the world, more women than men are fat.

Obesity is a problem for 15% of women and 11% of men, meaning that they have a body mass index (bmi) of 30 or higher.

But the obesity gap varies across the world.

The Middle East and north Africa has the biggest and most consistent disparity between the sexes. (Several countries in southern Africa have big gaps, too.)

In the Middle East 26% of women are obese versus 16% of men. This can be dangerous.

In 2019, eight Arab countries were among the 11 with the highest share of deaths attributed to obesity (mostly due to heart disease, diabetes and high blood pressure).

Only a fifth of women in Arab countries have paid jobs, says the World Bank. In Iraq the share is one in ten.

This means that most Arab women spend most of the day indoors, missing out on passive exercise.

Working women in other regions bustle around in hospitals, classrooms and restaurants.

But in Arab countries many such jobs are done mainly by men. In Gulf countries many of the heavier menial household chores are done by foreigners.

Moreover, women in Arab countries have fewer chances to enjoy sport.

Young girls and boys play football together in the street. But once a girl reaches puberty, roughhousing in public is frowned upon.

Teenage girls become more sedentary, meeting friends indoors. “We don’t like girls to be outside,” says a sweaty Iraqi man who plays football outdoors four times a week but does not let his sister follow suit.

She has a treadmill at home, he says.

In any case, headscarves and clothes that cover the female body make public exercise cumbersome.

Harassment in the street often makes jogging unpleasant. “When I walk my dogs, I have to put on music to block out the catcalls,” says an Iraqi woman. Strolling tends to be in air-conditioned malls.

Some gyms cater just to women, but are found mainly in big cities.

In Egypt poor women are on average fatter than rich ones.

Rich families tend to be more relaxed about letting their daughters out.

Still, Egypt has the highest women’s bmi of any country in the world, bar some of the Pacific islands.

Diet bears much of the blame. Egyptians get 30% of their calories from bread, much of it subsidised: the price of a kilo is fixed at $0.61.

Since 1975 Arab women have grown fatter at a quicker rate than Arab men, while junk food has steadily proliferated.

Wafa al-Khatib, a housewife in Baghdad, wants to slim down, so she asked her mother to do more of the cooking to help her resist culinary temptation. “Iraqis’ problem is carbohydrates,” she says. Her family eats rice and bread at nearly every meal.

A final cause of obesity, according to some women, is that many Arab men prefer them to be Rubens-esque.

Shutting women up at home helps keep them that way.

Shireen Rashid, another Iraqi housewife, wants to shed a few pounds. But not too many. When you are skinny, “you lose your femininity”, she says.

Her husband does not want her to lose weight at all. He fears she will “feel like a piece of wood in bed”.

Iraqis often cite Enas Taleb, an actress with ample curves (pictured), as the ideal of beauty.

Some claim Iraqi women even take weight-gaining pills to be more attractive to men. Alas, in the Arab world or indeed anywhere else, that is hardly the road to good health, let alone happiness.

Dot
Dot
December 9, 2023 6:47 pm

Johnny Rotten
Dec 9, 2023 5:25 PM

Martin Armstrong

What an unmitigated mountain of bullshit.

Ahistorical, dishonest, stupid, self aggrandising nonsense.

Cassie of Sydney
December 9, 2023 6:47 pm

Peter Gabriel has become an anti-Israel spruiker and shrieker, given to gabbling about Israeli racism. I gave up on him years ago.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2023 6:48 pm

The goil is in fashion

Chemistry…

Suede – Animal Nitrate (1993)

Oh, ok, yeah I know, some people like physics better.

Suede – Electricity (1999)

Dot
Dot
December 9, 2023 6:50 pm

Women doing chores limiting their fructose consumption will not become fat.

What a bloody silly article.

Dot
Dot
December 9, 2023 6:51 pm

Diet bears much of the blame. Egyptians get 30% of their calories from bread, much of it subsidised: the price of a kilo is fixed at $0.61.

Since 1975 Arab women have grown fatter at a quicker rate than Arab men, while junk food has steadily proliferated.

Wafa al-Khatib, a housewife in Baghdad, wants to slim down, so she asked her mother to do more of the cooking to help her resist culinary temptation. “Iraqis’ problem is carbohydrates,” she says. Her family eats rice and bread at nearly every meal.

A final cause of obesity, according to some women, is that many Arab men prefer them to be Rubens-esque.

Shutting women up at home helps keep them that way.

Oh dear. Entire nations of chubby chasers giving their cherubs type II diabetes.

The article has redeemed itself.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 9, 2023 6:51 pm

Farmer Gez earlier.
Two of the great community volunteer organisations we have are the CFA and SLSA.
Dan has successfully screwed one of them for his thug mate Marshall in the Firies union.
I see recently they were calling for city volunteers to make up CFA numbers.
Great. Local brigade committees will end up being run by inner city greenies talking up Indigenous fire-stick technology with larger centres being run by “perfessionals” with a Cert III in Cat up Tree Techniques.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2023 6:51 pm

Peter Gabriel has become an anti-Israel spruiker and shrieker, given to gabbling about Israeli racism. I gave up on him years ago.

Sad to hear that Cassie. I knew he was lefty, but haven’t been tracking what he’s been up to recently. The Roger Waters disease is pretty nasty when a muso contracts it.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 9, 2023 6:52 pm
Rabz
December 9, 2023 6:53 pm

BoN – let’s have its correct title, thanks Squire:

Suede – Electrickery (1999) 🙂

What a mighty slab of Rock ‘n’ Roll, Cats …

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 9, 2023 6:54 pm

VR, sounds like you are pressed for time when you are over there.
I would recommend putting Assisi on the to do list.
It’s on the main line between Florence & Rome.
Stay in the old town.
It’s worth it.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 6:55 pm

Diet bears

Pol, are they anything like gummi bears?

Or bears that have consumed a kilo of coke and are unable to climb trees type bears?

Rabz
December 9, 2023 6:56 pm

Enquiring minds and all that …

Cassie of Sydney
December 9, 2023 6:56 pm

“The Economist – Why women are fatter than men in the Arab world”

Arab culture, and particularly Arab men, like their women fat, even obese. I remember years ago reading the Cairo trilogy by Naguib Mahfouz. It was a trilogy about a conservative and wealthy Muslim merchant family in Cairo, set between the end of the Great War to the end of the Second World War. It was good reading, however I remember the father in the novels being a shameless hypocrite and tyrant.

Hypocrisy reigns supreme in the Arab world.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 9, 2023 6:56 pm

KD at 2:46

*Or, as someone here referred to some time ago in a third hand sense, as ‘fully depreciated’.

I think that was me.
Knowing the lady concerned, it was a very, very courageous statement.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 9, 2023 6:57 pm

What is Mary K smoking?

Dunno. Ask JC – it might know.

Cassie of Sydney
December 9, 2023 6:57 pm

There are plenty of musos who don’t contract it, Nick Cave being one.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 9, 2023 6:58 pm

I’m surprised these arab women aren’t more liberated.
That woman on Q&A with the ice cream cone forehead hair do said Islamic was the most progressive of all the religions.
Some one on Q&A wouldn’t lie would they?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 9, 2023 6:59 pm

Peter Gabriel has become an anti-Israel spruiker

I can imagine him standing in front of 20 or so women(?) swaying suggestively while he sings ‘Simply Imbecilical’. Or in front of a frantic animated backdrop singing ‘Inbred Hamas’.

Dragnet
Dragnet
December 9, 2023 7:00 pm

Cassie at 6.12 pm

x 100

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2023 7:00 pm

The assistant understudy of the apprentice reserve village idiot in action.

Chris Bowen has indicated Australia may be willing to back a global commitment at the Cop28 climate summit to phase out fossil fuels.

In his first statement, at a press conference with Samoa’s natural environment minister, Cedric Schuster, Bowen said his government wanted to see “a big step forward on the language on phasing out of fossil fuels”.

“Whether we get there or not, the coming days will tell. But it is important, and it sends an important symbol,” he said.

He said he would not go into details of what Australia argued in one-on-one negotiations, but the discussion at the summit about phasing out fossil fuels – a line supported by a growing list of countries – went “hand-in-glove” with the Albanese government’s target of having Australia running on 82% renewable energy by 2030.

“Everyone sensible accepts [fossil fuels] are leaving the grid and need to be replaced to ensure energy reliability. So I see all these things as hand?in?glove, and that’s what this international conversation’s all about,” Bowen said.

Bowen’s second statement on Friday was on the main conference stage as the chair of the umbrella group, representing a negotiating bloc that includes the US, UK, Japan, Canada, New Zealand, Israel, Ukraine and Norway.

In that role, he said the group wanted Cop28 to back urgent action in line with what the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had found was necessary to keep global heating of 1.5C above pre-industrial levels within reach.

That included global emissions peaking by 2025, and the world escalating emissions targets to make a 43% cut in pollution compared with 2019 levels by 2030, and a 60% cut by 2035. It also included “a rapid scaling up of clean energy coupled with a global phase out of unabated fossil fuels”.

truly a mongs mong
“We know that renewables are the cleanest and cheapest form of energy, and that energy efficiency can also help drive down bills and emissions,” he said

He also slung another lazy 150 million to the South Pacific…

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 9, 2023 7:03 pm

Maybe it’s part stupidity & being poorly read.
And it’s definitely part anti-Semitism.
Scratch the surface in some communities and you see they hate Jews simply for being Jews.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 9, 2023 7:04 pm

Some claim Iraqi women even take weight-gaining pills to be more attractive to men.

Britnee & Dave. And other fatties.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 7:05 pm

Cats – you can denounce Bozo and Sludge all you like, but the simple fact is, their first tour of the USA produced some classics.

For when you blunder on in to Harlem

We’re shuttin’ these limeys down, I tells ya

Rock and Roll! 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 9, 2023 7:05 pm

I have a rivetting tale of how I built a chainsaw in the shed today*, then went lumberjacking.
I’m prepared to pay to post it if it is considered dull.
Any thoughts?

* Well, replaced the chain because the last one had been used to grub out tree roots. Cleaned gunk out of bar/chain oil grooves and holes which stopped it setting fire to trees rather than cutting them down.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 9, 2023 7:05 pm

If you give Rome a red hot go (what that means depends on your age & mobility) having a couple of days in Assisi is a decent way to recover before heading further north.

Roger
Roger
December 9, 2023 7:07 pm

Haka for Israel in Brisbane, 19th November
.
It was organised by a Christian community, Destiny Church

An earlier response to Rabz seems to have disappeared into the ethernet.

The NZ Haka was also organised by evangelical Maori Christians, who have a long history of supporting Jews & Israel.

Roger
Roger
December 9, 2023 7:09 pm

Hey, my suave side-profile pic has disappeared!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2023 7:09 pm

The Foo Fighters have been rocking Australia this week, so it’s only fair to put up one of theirs. Dave Grohl was apparently seriously working hard last night in a Bunnings hat.*

Foo Fighters – Something From Nothing (2014)

* Betoota Advocate being Beeish.

Bill from the Bush
Bill from the Bush
December 9, 2023 7:09 pm

Rabz,
Brian Tamaki runs an evangelical church and is anti establishment.
The establishment/media/pollycritters hate him, so why not put it right up them with a haka for Israel on the steps of parliament.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 7:10 pm

Bozo and Sludge in excelsis …

I have scaled these city walls – only to be with you

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 9, 2023 7:10 pm

Chris Bowen has indicated Australia may be willing to back a global commitment at the Cop28 climate summit to phase out fossil fuels.

He we knows his days in government are numbered and, like a drowning man, his arms flailing blindly about trying to find anything to grab onto to claim his legacy.

Honestly, the most humane thing to do would be to bring him back to Australia, prop him up in his chair, and stave his skull in with a mattock.

It might be a bit much to send the carcass off to a glue factory.

Does anyone really believe a glue made from a Labor politician could hold anything together?

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 7:10 pm

I’m conflicted. Do I throw out the music I love because the composer/singer is a moron? Or do I view the art for its own sake.

Do I go Full Progressive and throw the baby out with the bathwater?

There must be a Venn diagram for this.

Rabz
December 9, 2023 7:11 pm

evangelical Maori Christians, who have a long history of supporting Jews & Israel

Rabz
December 9, 2023 7:13 pm

No, calli – you just love the music – regardless of the idiots who might be purveying it.

Roger
Roger
December 9, 2023 7:13 pm

calli, how do I get my avatar back again?

Cassie of Sydney
December 9, 2023 7:14 pm

I’m conflicted. Do I throw out the music I love because the composer/singer is a moron? Or do I view the art for its own sake.

I think the latter, but I most certainly would not pay dosh to see him live.

The only CDs I have ever thrown out were those by John Williams, the classical guitarist.

Delta A
Delta A
December 9, 2023 7:15 pm

Just cracked 51 mm rain.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 9, 2023 7:16 pm

I’m conflicted. Do I throw out the music I love because the composer/singer is a moron?

I deleted Kanye from my playlists.
Pity, Can’t Tell Me Nothing was one of my favourite driving tunes.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 9, 2023 7:17 pm

“We know that renewables are the cleanest and cheapest form of energy, and that energy efficiency can also help drive down bills and emissions,” he said

Bowen is beyond parody.

Villages have idiots. We don’t have enough villages for this idiot.

Cassie of Sydney
December 9, 2023 7:17 pm

It might not surprise some here but sometimes I just lose it and go bat shit crazy and I threw out stuff if I think such stuff is tainted with Jew hatred.

Can’t help it. I am my mother’s daughter.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 9, 2023 7:18 pm

Maybe it’s a scale.
Being an idiot is one thing.
Posting swastika’s on social media & calling all Jews thieves is another.

miltonf
miltonf
December 9, 2023 7:19 pm

Bowen is the very model of a modern pollimuppett- smug, zero experience in a real job, useless but dangerous.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2023 7:21 pm

BoN – let’s have its correct title, thanks Squire

My mistake Rabz, I have, um, a…

Chemical Heart – Grinspoon (2002)

Cassie of Sydney
December 9, 2023 7:21 pm

Posting swastika’s on social media & calling all Jews thieves is another.

Correct, until this week I’d never heard of ‘Abbie Chatfield’ but from what I’ve read this week, she’s a gold star Jew hater.

bons
bons
December 9, 2023 7:23 pm

Helen,

One thousand plusses. The Atherton and its people are breathtaking. I hadn’t thought about it before, but yes they are genuine folks.

Which possibly explains why I become a hazard to road users when I drive past that ridiculous little turd’s union superfund windmills on the Atherton’s ridge tops.

I continue to quiver in fury that one obese, ugly, foul mouthed teachers’ union bi*ch launched a scam that has captured our whole economy. Some say that Keating was being benign when he imposed the Superannuation Levy. Bultish! He was working hand in glove with Fat Sharan.

Winston Smith
December 9, 2023 7:24 pm

Areff:

One the subject of cats, would anyone like to mind a fat, lazy white moggy for 12-15 months?

Can you put a picture up?
Is Elsie a long or short hair?*
Is she a housecat or like wandering over a backyard?
Can you wear a couple of Tshirts for a week and put them in her cage if she is suitable?
I’d be happy to do it – just cover any vet bills and I’ll do it for the company, what State do you live in, and is she happy to fly in a pet crate, or if she’s in Qld, I’ll come down and get her.
The same goes for anyone else wanting to put a dog or cat up for long term housing etc rather than putting them down.
*Reason for this I have a weed around the hose that is costing a fortune in time and money to keep under control and if elsie is a long hair, it takes me back to Fatso the Cat trying to to keep his coat clean.

calli
calli
December 9, 2023 7:26 pm

Roger. Check your email. You may have put in a different one to the one registered with Gravatar.

John H.
John H.
December 9, 2023 7:28 pm
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