Open Thread – Weekend 13 Dec 2023


The Nativity, Gari Melchers, 1860-1932

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rosie
rosie
December 10, 2023 3:37 pm

I’m pretty sure the ladies of the Idf have no desire to see stinky naked hamasisis.
Gross.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 10, 2023 3:38 pm

NUREMBERG 2 Israel to hold Nuremberg-style war crimes trials for Hamas terrorists behind the October 7 massacre

The number of Hamas jihadists seized on October 7 could be about 100

The Hamas monsters were grilled by intelligence officers and could face the death penalty if the horrific acts are found to have violated the international rules of war.

They would be the first executed in Israel since Nazi Adolf Eichmann was hanged for war crimes in 1962.

Sources say the number of Hamas jihadists seized on October 7 could be about 100.

Israel law officials are considering a special court.

Their former ambassador to the US Michael Oren said: “A Nuremberg-type trial is definitely called for.”

Richard Pater, head of Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre, told The Sun: “The extreme brutality involved in the attacks could lend itself to Nuremberg-type trials or something akin to the trial of Eichmann, to give full public exposure of the Hamas war crimes.”

One captured Hamas terrorist said they were ordered to rape, torture and behead during the bloodbaths at kibbutz communities, a music festival and other sites.

The Nuremberg trials at the end of World War Two saw Nazi Germany leaders sentenced to death

Makka
Makka
December 10, 2023 3:39 pm

It is estimated around 7000 hamas have been killed

10 times that still breathing. Get on with it, IDF.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 10, 2023 3:39 pm

None the less hamasisis boosters* are claiming that as the proprietor of a metal workshop he couldn’t possibly be hamasi.

This has been a regular theme. Abdul is a taxi driver, ergo he cannot possibly be Hamas.
Hamasisis boosters on social media & in our unis seem totally & completely oblivious to the concept of a “second job”

Winston Smith
December 10, 2023 3:40 pm

cohenite

Dec 10, 2023 2:23 PM
GP’s latest showing many of the beautiful young women butchered and/or captured by the grubs. I still advocate tactical nukes all over the ME by Israel

Especially Iran – the hydra is never dead until ALL the heads are cut off.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 10, 2023 3:42 pm

This Young London Lady will be Unemployable in the Future

Met police appeal for information after woman is seen at Pro Palestine march in London holding ‘spot the difference’ sign comparing pictures of IDF’s actions in Gaza to Nazi Holocaust – as footage shows protesters chanting ‘victory to the intifada’

Sign compares killing of naked Jewish people to IDF treatment of Palestinians

Police are hunting for a pro-Palestine protester who waved a sign on Saturday comparing the IDF’s rounding up of Palestinians in their underwear to the execution of Jewish people by the Nazis during the Second World War.

The Met Police shared an image of the woman – wearing a beanie hat and a Palestinian keffiyeh scarf – on X, formerly Twitter, following Saturday’s protests.

Images of the sign were shared by others on social media: it shows a photograph, taken during the Second World War, of German police preparing to execute Jewish men and boys in Poland.

Cassie of Sydney
December 10, 2023 3:43 pm

Just been sent these. This is why Israel will prevail….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsTQKcHC2qg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3E0EtsyNyE

As for the 3,200 mediocrities who dominate our theatrical and musical scene, who’ve signed a letter of such repugnancy and ignorance, a letter that includes the words “from the river to sea” which means genocide, genocide of the the Jews in the land of Israel…..NO, NO, NO….Israel will prevail.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 10, 2023 3:50 pm

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rosie
Dec 10, 2023 3:37 PM

I’m pretty sure the ladies of the Idf have no desire to see stinky naked hamasisis.
Gross.

I suspect, only a guess, that the ladies of the IDF are even tougher than you are, Rosie.

shatterzzz
December 10, 2023 3:51 pm

Bit o’ nostalgia on show for,us, old time fitba fans in this afternoon’s game Brisbane v Adelaide ..
A “Clough” playing for Adelaide & a “Lofthouse” in there for Brisbane .. LOL!

Winston Smith
December 10, 2023 3:51 pm

Old Ozzie:

Until DEI regimes are extirpated and replaced by clear, neutral policies that protect speech and punish true threats, university presidents will defend the indefensible.

Just close ALL the universities and confiscate their funds.

John Brumble
John Brumble
December 10, 2023 3:52 pm

Qld is going to have a Labor government for most of the next 20 years. Even if the QLD LNP magically manages to get someone competent, the agrarian socialists will throw that person under the nearest combine harvester for not shovelling public money into their gullets.

rosie
rosie
December 10, 2023 3:59 pm

Most of the ladies of the IDF are young women aged 18, 19 and 20, many of them religious.
You think they want to see naked terrorists.
Nothing to do with toughness, but about decency.
Probably why you don’t get it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 10, 2023 3:59 pm

Suella Braverman: ‘Hate on Britain’s streets proves that multiculturalism has failed’

The former home secretary shares her concerns about radicalisation in our schools and the normalisation of anti-Semitism

Edward Malnick, – SUNDAY POLITICAL EDITOR

An end to round-the-clock telephone calls requesting approval for intelligence-service operations might seem a happy by-product of being suddenly ousted as home secretary.

But, says Suella Braverman, as a parent of a two-year-old, that has not necessarily meant more sleep. “My daughter still wakes up at 3am,” she sighs. “But, yes, I don’t need to worry about the national-security issues.”

Braverman, 43, describes the responsibilities of home secretary – which include signing off on MI5 surveillance warrants – as a “heavy burden”.

“[Officials] do call at any time and you’ve got to be able to respond immediately,” she says.

However, it isn’t just the national-security element of the role that the former attorney general has found to weigh heavily.

Now freed from the restrictions of collective responsibility, Braverman reveals that she has been fighting a series of behind-the-scenes battles on key policies since her appointment in the autumn of 2022 – and not only those directly relating to the work of the Home Office.

She has been at the forefront of arguments to take the toughest approach to extremism – and connects her concerns about what she terms “hate marches” in London relating to the Israel-Hamas conflict to her insistence on the need to tackle rising levels of migration.

The former home secretary refers back to a controversial speech in September to highlight the anti-Semitic slogans that have emerged during pro-Palestine protests in central London as “a reflection of the failure of multiculturalism”.

Braverman has been attempting to hold Rishi Sunak to account for a series of commitments she says he made in exchange for her support following Liz Truss’s demise as leader last year – on issues from cutting EU red tape to issuing “guidance to schools on trans matters”.

At the heart of the commitments Braverman sought were meaningful reforms to bring down levels of migration.

Sitting in the kitchen of her Hertfordshire home, once again a backbench MP, Braverman sets out why she believes Rishi Sunak’s Rwanda Bill to get deportation flights up and running is “not fit for purpose” due to the “gaping holes” she believes it leaves open for legal challenges.

Braverman also says that she was pushing to introduce sweeping restrictions on legal migration as early as last autumn, but was “blocked” by Downing Street as the Prime Minister repeatedly refused to meet her to discuss the issue over the course of a year.

She now fears that the changes announced last week will fail to have any impact on official figures until mid-2025 – after a general election at which the Conservatives are, on current course, likely to be punished for failing to deliver on promises to cut levels of migration.

Elsewhere, Braverman reveals that she was privately opposing plans by Alex Chalk, the Justice Secretary, to scrap prison sentences of less than a year for most criminals, to help tackle the prison-overcrowding crisis.

“The solution is not to let criminals off the hook – it is to build more prisons, and quickly.”

That Braverman, a standard-bearer of the Tory Right and a former head of the European Research Group of MPs that now threatens to block Mr Sunak’s Rwanda law, should have ended up a disillusioned member of Sunak’s government is perhaps one of the less surprising political developments of recent years, given the Conservative Party’s deep splits.

The pair were unlikely allies when Braverman, then a possible leadership contender herself, announced on October 23 2022 that she had decided to back Sunak’s second attempt to become Tory leader last year, having lost to Liz Truss in the summer.

The move appeared to all-but guarantee Sunak’s path to No?10.

“When it became clear that Liz’s time was coming to an end, the [now] Prime Minister did approach me, and he asked for my support,” says Braverman, whose own leadership pledges on migration and cutting tax forced several of her rivals further to the Right last summer.

By the time Sunak approached her, Braverman had quit as Truss’s home secretary after sending an official document from her personal email address.

“I supported Liz because I thought that on illegal migration primarily, she was very robust from the outset.

“So, Rishi spoke to me, we had several conversations and eventually I decided to support him, on very firm assurances that he gave me, an agreement that we made, that if I were to support him, he would take particular specific steps on several very discrete policy areas [including] illegal migration, legal migration.”

The agreement included raising the minimum salary threshold required for foreign skilled workers from £26,000 to £40,000 – a proposal almost exactly adopted by Mr Sunak only a couple of weeks after sacking Braverman.

Braverman drew up a physical document that Mr Sunak then agreed to in front of witnesses, she says. “In person, a document was considered by both of us, we went through it in a lot of detail and he agreed to it – with other people in the room.”

On Mr Sunak’s part, while Braverman was appointed to run the Home Office, the Prime Minister’s close ally Robert Jenrick was installed as a Cabinet-level immigration minister, whom some journalists were told was there to “keep an eye” on the home secretary.

But the arrangement was somewhat painless for Braverman, who says that she and Jenrick had been “friends for decades”, having been contemporaries at Oxford University.

“We were partners at the Home Office,” says Braverman of Jenrick, who quit last week having failed to persuade Mr Sunak to introduce a tougher Rwanda Bill.

That alliance may now prove deadly for the Prime Minister’s legislation as the two former ministers team up to warn their party that it will not stop the flow of boats crossing the Channel.

Braverman makes clear that she feels let down.

While in September her public assessment of Sunak was that he was doing a “very, very hard job very well”, she restricts herself now to saying that the Prime Minister is “doing a very, very hard job”.

Primarily, she insists that the bill due to be debated on Tuesday – which is intended to overcome a Supreme Court ruling blocking deportation flights to Rwanda – fails to deliver on Sunak’s promise to do “whatever it takes” to get the scheme up and running as a deterrent to help stop the passage of small boats carrying migrants across the Channel.

“Ultimately, he’s not stopped the boats.

He made the promise at the beginning of the year.

He’s not fulfilled the promise. I want him to fulfil the promise.

We are not there yet and I want him to do whatever it takes. He said he will do whatever it takes.

He needs to prove it now.”

The bill “does have some commendable elements to it”, she says.

She welcomes the inclusion of a “notwithstanding” clause that disapplies parts of the Human Rights Act. But, like Jenrick, she fears that it is used in “an extremely narrow way” that could still leave plenty of room for legal challenges.

Braverman believes that the Conservatives should campaign on a platform to leave the European Convention on Human Rights at the next election, saying that the treaty is “far too elastically interpreted, it has operated to thwart our ability to control our borders, control our national security, and properly take back control”.

But she concedes: “This Government won’t do it, and it is a debate for another day.”

Her other concerns about the bill include a clause that allows individuals to make claims that they cannot be sent to Rwanda – a measure Braverman believes could add on six months to the wait for any deportation flights.

“There will be individual claims brought by every person who is put on the first flight to Rwanda.

That’s what happened in June 2022 [when flights were grounded by an order of the European Court of Human Rights].

“It took six months for those individual claims to get a decision from the High Court.

So clause four of this bill basically adds on a minimum of six months to any scheme that is built by this legislation.”

Braverman, who practised as a barrister before becoming MP for Fareham, Hampshire, in 2015, suggests that the provision is likely to be gamed by migrants, with the bar set at a requirement for individuals to produce “compelling evidence” if they wish to argue that Rwanda is an unsafe country for them.

“In all of the claims that we’ve dealt with… pretty much all of the claimants were able to adduce medical evidence from a doctor, which said, ‘Yes, this person will commit suicide if they move to Rwanda; yes, this person will suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder if they move to Rwanda.’”

Another concern is the absence of an “automatic block” on so-called “pyjama injunctions”, or interim Rule 39 orders, from the Strasbourg court, one of which was used to ground flights last year. “In the bill, it clearly states that ministers decide whether to use the Rule 39 block or not. I know that our attorney general has advised that to ignore a Rule 39 injunction would be a breach of international law, so therefore, as it stands, Rule 39s will block flights.

“Couple that with the Prime Minister’s rather strange claim that Rwanda doesn’t want us to breach international law, despite there being a clear argument ignoring Rule 39s isn’t a breach, and it follows that Strasbourg will be able to effectively stop any flights taking off.”

The “rather strange claim” is Mr Sunak’s declaration in recent days that he was unable to pursue a “full-fat” version of the legislation – blocking off individual claims under human rights laws – because the Rwandan government insisted that it would not tolerate the UK reneging on its international legal obligations.

She finds this “unconvincing”.

Vincent Biruta, the Rwandan foreign minister who released a statement supporting Mr Sunak’s claim, never mentioned such concerns in his discussions with Braverman, she says.

Braverman’s remarks speak to a lack of trust that developed at the top of the Government.

On legal migration, she says, “I worked out the proposals, I wrote officially to the Prime Minister.

I asked for meetings to discuss the matter with him. I was never granted a meeting in 12 months by the Prime Minister on this subject.

And so I was left to do it through official correspondence.

“It was about six times that I put in a request through myself or officials to talk about the plan on legal migration.”

Braverman says her only one-to-one time with Mr Sunak discussing possible measures to restrict legal migration was five minutes during a meeting on the Rwanda scheme.

Braverman suggests that the apparent uninterest in significantly reducing legal migration was not exclusive to Downing Street and that, supported by Jenrick, she was the only Cabinet minister “arguing forcefully for [reducing] net migration”.

Braverman argues that the Treasury and Office for Budget Responsibility only calculate the estimated economic benefits of increased migration and not the costs, including its impact on the NHS, schools and the housing market.

“It’s a real pressure on resources: GP places, school places, house prices,” she says.

“The sector is now coming out and saying increased migration is pushing up house prices.

And yet, the OBR and the various economic departments do not see it that way.

They say more people coming into the country, taken at face value, is a good thing for the economy.

They ignore the cost that those people will bring with them, particularly when so many of them are bringing in more than one dependant.

“We’re not building enough houses, we’re not creating enough school places or GP places to support this rapid increase in migration.

It’s also straining community cohesion, and parts of our country are changing very rapidly.

And that affects issues like the social fabric of our country.

And that goes to the point that I’ve made previously about multiculturalism.”

In September, weeks before the October 7 attacks by Hamas and subsequent pro-Palestine protests in London, Braverman drew controversy for a speech in which she suggested that multiculturalism had failed.

Now she says that events since then have proved her point.

“I think it has utterly failed in parts of our country, where communities are not integrating, they’re not learning the language, they have values totally at odds with British values.

I think that’s been borne out by some of the hate marches that we’ve seen since October 7.

[It is] astonishing, staggering, shocking and shameful that, on the streets of Britain in the 21st century, hundreds of thousands of people are jubilant about what Hamas did, glorifying, celebrating, in a way which is horrific to see and has intimidated, harassed and been racist towards the Jewish community.

And I think that is a reflection of the failure of multiculturalism.”

Braverman adds: “Extremism on the streets has been allowed to get out of control.

I think these marches represent the highest risk of extremism and terrorism that we’ve seen for 20 years since 9/11.

There is radicalisation going on around our country, in mosques, in schools in communities around the country, where violence is being preached, hatred is being preached, and anti-Semitism is being normalised.”

While a month ago, Braverman might have been conducting such an interview at the Home Office rather than in her own kitchen, a lighthearted reminder of the realities of post-ministerial life arrives in the form of her husband, Rael, a finance manager for Mercedes, returning home for lunch.

He jokes: “I don’t want a photo, I don’t want to be asked a question.”

Braverman has previously spoken about how their household is run on spreadsheets that dictate which parent or grandparent is responsible for nursery and school drop-offs, dinners and bedtimes on any given day.

The couple have a four-year-old son, George, as well as a two-year-old daughter called Gabriella.

After four years in Cabinet, “there’s been a lot of rejigging of the household spreadsheets.

I’m doing a few more pick-ups and dinners.”

But there is no sign of Braverman considering herself removed from the crisis she believes is facing the Conservative Party, potentially the country, over migration.

Addressing Mr Sunak’s decision to take a middle way on the illegal-migration issue, she says: “I think populist parties will gain support on the back of this. And the far Right, I’m afraid.

This is why it’s so essential for the moderates, and the centre-Right party, the Conservative Party, to deal robustly and compassionately with the issue of migration.

Because if we don’t, then far-Right political parties will gain increasing support.”

Asked, amid a growing backlash against Mr Sunak’s leadership, whether the party could really stomach yet another contest, Braverman insists: “No one wants a leadership contest for a very, very long time.”

However, she does not entirely rule out a future attempt to run the party herself, simply insisting: “It’s not about that and I’m not thinking about it at all. I want the Prime Minister to succeed, and that means bringing forward a bill that will actually work and get flights off to Rwanda.

We can’t afford to fail again and let down the British people.”

Johnny Rotten
December 10, 2023 3:59 pm

This saw won’t cut through –

https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_s4uhg5M2US1w5pr9j.mp4

LOL

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 4:00 pm

Hamasisis boosters on social media & in our unis seem totally & completely oblivious to the concept of a “second job”

Or pleasurable hobby.

Vicki
Vicki
December 10, 2023 4:00 pm

It is estimated around 7000 hamas have been killed
10 times that still breathing. Get on with it, IDF.

I thought there was an estimation of about 20,000 Hamas, Makka. If so, the IDF are getting towards half the job done, though my guess is that the mongrel hamas operatives will start surrendering big time.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 10, 2023 4:01 pm

Years ago we had the shoe bomber. Who would now bet against the risk of an arse bomber?

Been done.
https://theintercept.com/2014/12/25/al-qaeda-claims-perfected-hidden-bomb/#:~:text=The%20magazine%20cites%20the%20example,afraid%20of%20talking%20about%20it.
The magazine cites the example of Abdullah al-Asiri, an AQAP member who died in 2009 trying to kill a senior Saudi government official; al-Asiri reportedly hid the bomb in his rectal cavity.

Rectal bombs are a touchy subject and Al Qaeda members aren’t the only ones afraid of talking about it. U.S. news organizations also struggled in trying to describe the al-Asiri attack with the New York Times writing that the “bomb had been hidden internally” (though the newspaper also referred to it later in the article as a “rectal bomb”) and the Associated Press merely says the bomb was “inside” Al-Asiri’s body

Winston Smith
December 10, 2023 4:02 pm

Boambee John

Dec 10, 2023 3:22 PM
Winston

Make the bastards live up to their own rules of tolerance for different views.

See also: Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. They can never live up to their own (proclaimed) principles.

Perciserly. That’s where I got it from.

Damon
Damon
December 10, 2023 4:03 pm

I take exception to Lizzie’s comments about Wagner’s music. The only inherent message is that construed by the listener. I suspect the only contact those chanting death to the Jews on the steps of the opera house had with Wagner was watching Apocalypse Now. We hear what we want to hear, and see what we want to see.

rosie
rosie
December 10, 2023 4:03 pm
Makka
Makka
December 10, 2023 4:06 pm

That’s just Hamas Vicki. Israel has to face hundreds of thousands more of the barbarians in future, now in nappies and toddlers, young teens etc. So they should wipe out all Hamas and wannabes they can find now because a new crop will arise soon enough. Pali mothers will make sure of that. It’s their job.

Johnny Rotten
December 10, 2023 4:06 pm

So, where’s the Cannes Film Festival being held this year?

– Christina Aguilera

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 4:07 pm

One captured Hamas terrorist said they were ordered to rape, torture and behead during the bloodbaths at kibbutz communities, a music festival and other sites.

Just following orders

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 4:07 pm

They aren’t allowed to gloat.

Do not gloat when your enemy falls;
when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice,
Or the Lord will see and disapprove
and turn his wrath away from them.

Proverbs 24:17-18

It’s pretty clear. All is not as it appears.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 10, 2023 4:08 pm

London Has Fallen

Scotland Yard invited mosque chairman who praised Hamas founder to dinner

Mohammed Kozbar attended event with senior officers despite his support for terror group’s founder being cited in counter-extremism review

Edward Malnick,
SUNDAY POLITICAL EDITOR

A prominent mosque chairman who praised the founder of Hamas was invited to a buffet dinner at Scotland Yard hosted by the Met Commissioner, The Sunday Telegraph can disclose.

Mohammed Kozbar attended an evening event alongside senior Met officers in July – five months after his past praise for Hamas’s founder as “the master of the martyrs of the resistance” was cited in an official counter-extremism review.

The event was organised by the London Muslim Communities Forum (LMCF), a Met “strategic advisory body”.

Scotland Yard said: “We can confirm that Mr Mohammed Kozbar is a member of the London Muslim Communities Forum.”

It was addressed by Attiq Malik, a hard-Left activist who led the LMCF until November, when the Met cut its ties from the hard-left lawyer after The Sunday Telegraph revealed that he had been filmed chanting “from the river to the sea” and railing against “global censorship by the Zionists”.

The disclosures will raise questions about the Met’s links to activists following sustained criticism of the force’s approach to policing protests in London since the Oct 7 attacks by Hamas.

In February an official review of Prevent, the government’s counter-extremism programme, raised concerns that the London branch of the National Association of Muslim Police had praised Mr Kozbar despite evidence that he had “previously supported the founder … of Hamas.”

A photograph shows Mr Malik, who is based in Luton, Beds., and Mr Kozbar in conversation at the event on July 7. It was attended by about 50 representatives of the Muslim community in London, to mark Eid.

The formal objectives of the LMCF included to “inform and help shape police policy and procedure at a strategic level”, although the dedicated page for the body on the Met website appears to have been temporarily removed.

Members of the LMCF are not formally vetted.

The Met cut its ties with Mr Malik having concluded that some “past language and views” were “contrary with our values”.

This weekend, the force said it was reviewing its engagement with advisory groups to ensure “they are committed to building a better London that promotes mutual respect and inclusivity”.

Mr Kozbar, who chairs the Finsbury Park mosque in north London, is deputy secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, with which Whitehall has had a policy of “zero engagement” since 2009, when Gordon Brown was Prime Minister.

In recent tweets he has repeatedly accused Israel of carrying out a “genocide” in Gaza.

In October, The Telegraph revealed that Mr Kozbar was a member of the Crown Prosecution Service’s London hate crime scrutiny panel, which was disbanded in November after the new director for public prosecutions concluded it had lost “public confidence”.

Mr Kozbar wrote: “Allah’s generosity allowed me to visit the martyrs’ cemetery where the bodies of the master of the martyrs of the resistance, Majuhid Sheikh Ahmad Yasin, and his companions lie. It was an unforgettable prestigious visit to one of the nation’s greatest.”

Hamas was proscribed as a terror group in its entirety six years later, in 2021.

Lord Godson, a Conservative peer, raised concerns about Mr Kozbar’s remarks in 2015 in a House of Lords debate in October in which he called for the Government to “reaffirm” its policy of “non-engagement” with the Muslim Council of Britain.

‘Repeated attempts to smear me’

In response to questions from the Telegraph, Mr Kozbar claimed that he was being subjected to “repeated attempts to smear me as I pursue work to foster better community relations”.

He said: “??I condemn the targeting of all civilians, whoever they are. It is criminal to indiscriminately murder innocent men, women, and children.”

He supports “the Palestinian people and their quest for freedom, as clearly expressed as a basic right within international law”.

Addressing his comments about Yasin, Mr Kozbar, said: “I spoke on the extrajudicial assassination of a paraplegic man who was wheelchair bound.

“His execution, through an air strike, drew condemnation from the international community including the then United Nations Secretary General. My comments were made in that context and well before this organisation was proscribed.”

An MCB spokesman said Mr Kozbar had been “calling for peace and the end to the unjust killing of Palestinians”.

The spokesman added: “We condemn the killing of all civilians. We do not support terrorists.”

A Met spokesman said: “The Met works with a range of faith and community advisor groups.

“This vital work helps us improve our response to the crime and antisocial behaviour issues faced by all communities across London.

“The Met regularly hosts engagement events with these groups, as part of our commitment to building the trust and confidence of all Londoners.

“The Commissioner and other senior officers attend dozens of such events each year. They are often delivered in collaboration with partner organisations, and in many cases attendees will be invited by them and not directly by the Met.

“It would be inappropriate and illegal for us to conduct intelligence checks on the background of everyone invited to attend.

“There will be occasions where attendees hold views that, as an organisation, we disagree with. Their presence at an event does not amount to our support for their views. We do not condone any views which encourage division.”

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 4:10 pm

beautiful girls like this

and like this

Makka
Makka
December 10, 2023 4:10 pm

Scotland Yard invited mosque chairman who praised Hamas founder to dinner

Just 46% of Londoners are Anglo. Well and truly fkd.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 10, 2023 4:11 pm

Proverbs 24:17-18

I guess that is the end of “told you so”.

Is a wry grin ok?

Vicki
Vicki
December 10, 2023 4:15 pm

In September, weeks before the October 7 attacks by Hamas and subsequent pro-Palestine protests in London, Braverman drew controversy for a speech in which she suggested that multiculturalism had failed.

Interesting that new assessments of Multiculturalism are starting to be said. Even John Howard – normally fairly circumspect – has come right out & said it – “it has failed”. Many of us could see the problems decades ago – but, of course, it was considered “impolite” at the least, “racist” at the other end of the spectrum, to say it.

Throughout the evolution of our species, we have been “tribal”. This is not to say that intermarriage between tribes (even some early evidence of neanderthalis & homo sapiens interbreeding) did not occur – quite the contrary. But it was unusual until the big empires started to emerge – for subgroups to exist within tribes unless they were of slave, a conquered group or other servile status.

Modern democratic societies have held it as a tenet that cultural groups with not only different religions, but different social norms, could exist within the one polity. It CAN occur, but it is fraught with challenges. Too many challenges, it seems, when certain religions hold other groups as “unclean”, immoral or whatever.

And we all know which cultural/religious group today holds such beliefs.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 10, 2023 4:16 pm

The Poms managed to wipe out one minority ethnic group.

The Cockneys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Na_wxwhgDMA

Aaron
Aaron
December 10, 2023 4:17 pm

Newsflash.

3000 Palestinian plumbers arrested.

Innocent men trying to stop saltwater leaks in the tunnels, err, sewage system.

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 4:17 pm

I think so, alwaysright.

The capture, interrogation and trial of the criminal is a serious business. As is the punishment. It is an extension of the gravity of the crime.

It has to be done clinically and properly, leaving no stone unturned.

The rejoicing, when that finally happens, will be mixed with a tearing sorrow. They, at least, know the worth of human life.

Damon
Damon
December 10, 2023 4:18 pm

A country cannot, by definition, have an infinitely large population. The issue that nobody is prepared to face, is when to stop.

shatterzzz
December 10, 2023 4:18 pm

So they should wipe out all Hamas and wannabes they can find now because a new crop will arise soon enough.

Yep! .. allowing this level of surrender is gonna be a huge future debt .. scum like this & their ilk will be back .. they consider humane treatment to be a mugs game ……….!
Pen ’em & when it’s over repatriate ’em to Gaza then glass it ……….!

Cassie of Sydney
December 10, 2023 4:20 pm

I take exception to Lizzie’s comments about Wagner’s music. The only inherent message is that construed by the listener. “

No. Firstly, Richard Wagner never described himself as a “composer”, he always described himself as a “philosopher”. Secondly, Wagner’s Jew hatred was always there for all to see, he never tried to hide it.

Wagner’s son’s widow, Winifred, and their sons were later intimately involved with Hitler and the Nazi regime. Wagner’s music was played in the death camps, it was often the last thing people heard before being herded into the gas chambers. There is a reason why Wagner isn’t played in Israel, to this day. Even his great-grandson, Gottfried Wagner has distanced himself from his family, openly criticising the family’s involvement with the Nazi regime. Gottfriend Wagner prefers to play the music of another ancestor, Franz Liszt, who was the father of Cosima, Richard Wagner’s wife.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 10, 2023 4:23 pm

rosie
Dec 10, 2023 4:03 PM

beautiful girls like this

Have you ever spoken to a female member of the IDF, Rosie? I have.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
December 10, 2023 4:26 pm

Nursing shoulder and left elbow fluid
CL 9/12 @ 12:31 – the Brendan Option – this man is bang on and he will re connect with his parish.
He should be the pope with the Nigerian bishop

Rabz
This Shan of the Pogues – personally not a fan due to him sneering at every one for not getting drunk every day – this was comatose drunk.
How did he live so long

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 4:33 pm

I have zero doubt that many in the IDF would not be aware of that little excerpt from one of the Books of Wisdom I posted up thread. And even if they did, they would be tempted to disobey.

The point is that they are actively forbidden to do it by their holy scriptures.

Compare and contrast.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 10, 2023 4:37 pm

Katzenjammer
Dec 10, 2023 4:10 PM

beautiful girls like this

and like this

I’m sure there are sweet, innocent, virginal girls in the IDF, Katz. Not, I suspect, a very high percentage.

I’d prefer to see them carrying guns myself. Sweet singing won’t cut it when next Hamas arrives.

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 4:38 pm

Gottfriend Wagner prefers to play the music of another ancestor, Franz Liszt

#metoo

And also, I strongly suspect, does our friend Gilas.

🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 10, 2023 4:41 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/12/down-with-australia-islamist-demonstrators-in-sydney-today-make-their-loyalties-clear.html

I’ll pay this arzeholes fare to whatever Third World shithole he calls home – one way – and drive him to the airport..

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 10, 2023 4:42 pm

Too many challenges, it seems, when certain religions hold other groups as “unclean”, immoral or whatever.

Talibs “triumph of the least tolerant” is a good primer for where we will head.

The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small Minority

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 4:45 pm
Megan
Megan
December 10, 2023 4:45 pm

The bottom line is we have a critical funding gap.

Excellent news. Long may it continue to get
worse.

You and your overpaid, under intelligent Green colleagues can pay for it yourselves out of your bloated parliamentary salaries funded by the very people you despise. The good old Australia taxpayer.

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 4:50 pm

One of the scenarios in that story happened to me, mole. Ultra-Kosher. Meals brought into my home, sealed and eaten by my guests. For I did not have a kitchen that was suitably partitioned.

Rather than be a dick, I simply accepted it.

The left over crockery, now soiled by my dishwasher, is used productively. In fact, I have a pile of lamb chops sitting on one in the fridge right now.

All part of life’s rich tapestry.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 10, 2023 4:54 pm

Katzenjammer
Dec 10, 2023 4:45 PM

More beautiful Israeli girls

They’re my kind of beautiful Israeli girls, Katz. Tough chicks who don’t hesitate to take down the baddies. Good on them.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 4:58 pm

They’re my kind of beautiful Israeli girls, Katz. Tough chicks who don’t hesitate to take down the baddies. Good on them.

When they’re not on duty they grin and sing and party like those who were caught unaware.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 10, 2023 5:04 pm

calli

I thought it was interesting that he makes the argument Christianity was so successful vs the pagan gods because it was so intolerant of them and their practices.
And how some of the Christian martyrs starved to death rather than eat flesh from sacrificed animals.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 10, 2023 5:09 pm

When they’re not on duty they grin and sing and party like those who were caught unaware.

Those who were caught unaware at the rave were largely pacifists and the naïve, Katz. A reasonable caution and prudence would have led a tough chick off duty to make sure she knew where a gun was, and not too far off. A competent soldier doesn’t assume everyone in the area is a nice, kind individual.

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 5:11 pm

And how some of the Christian martyrs starved to death rather than eat flesh from sacrificed animals.

Their choice was theirs to make, but 1 Corinthians 8 makes the problem clear. My view was about creating a stumbling block for others, in this case those “weaker” than I. So, what sacrifice was it to me to accept their request? None at all.

And I got some nice plates and cutlery into the bargain.

Win/win.

Also, Christianity isn’t “Christendom”. I’m highly suspicious of conquering others by force.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 10, 2023 5:12 pm

Please keep in mind that Steven Miles is not as intelligent as Anastacia Palaszczuk.

Miles is a role model for all those with IQ’s less than 70.
One day, you too can become premier of QLD.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 5:17 pm

@DrBeauGan – You don’t know Israel.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 10, 2023 5:19 pm

There are many many instagram accounts devoted to the lovely ladies of the IDF.
I can’t remember seeing anything similar of the Hamas mob.

Johnny Rotten
December 10, 2023 5:20 pm

thefrollickingmole
Dec 10, 2023 4:16 PM
The Poms managed to wipe out one minority ethnic group.

The Cockneys.

And this is how the East End of London used to be –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd1GYyGaPK0

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 10, 2023 5:21 pm

JC
Dec 10, 2023 5:07 PM

MIT student trashes the MIT administration. Worth listening to what Jewish students have to go through.

She was good, JC, and very convincing. The sooner places like MIT give up on DEI crap and sack their HR departments the better.

I remember the days when the academics were in charge, and administrators were former academics who were recognised as past their use-by date. They wouldn’t have put up with this shit.

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 5:21 pm

That would be “to faith” by force.

Anyone can beat another nation to a pulp if they have sufficient firepower.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 10, 2023 5:24 pm

Also, Christianity isn’t “Christendom”. I’m highly suspicious of conquering others by force.

https://imgflip.com/i/88ugwx

Im all for accommodating people, except vegans.
Screw those guys.

The point being even when Christians were persecuted as a minority, it was their “intolerance” that kept them going.

/reading a nice biography on Justinian at the moment, interesting chap. Basically he was a “orthodox or die” in his heartlands and “accommodate the heretics” on the fringes of his empire..

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 10, 2023 5:24 pm


@DrBeauGan – You don’t know Israel.

It’s true I haven’t been there for many years now. If they’ve all turned into creeps and wimps I’d be very disappointed.

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 5:25 pm

Don’t like my example of tolerance? Not surprising. You’d probably squeal and glue yourself to the front door so the guests couldn’t get in.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 10, 2023 5:28 pm

Andrew Bolt: Labor’s secret deal to compensate Brittany Higgins stinks of corruption

Comment, regarding THAT three million quid – is she going to have to reimburse anyone for expenses? Her medical fund, for example?

Vicki
Vicki
December 10, 2023 5:29 pm

Those who were caught unaware at the rave were largely pacifists and the naïve, Katz.

I think that this horrific tragedy has caught many of us moralists unaware. For me, it has been an opportunity to, almost unwillingly, query where I stand on many of the major questions we rarely face in everyday life.

While the sanctity of human life is paramount, self preservation will always prevail – for me, at least. But the desecration of human beings in the manner of Hamas on 7 October? That is unfathomable, and for me, at least, it is the expression of the nature of Evil explored by all major religions.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 5:29 pm

I deleted Kanye from my playlists.
Pity, Can’t Tell Me Nothing was one of my favourite driving tunes.

Bern – he’s been gripped by the insanity – however Flashing Lights will remain one of my favourite tunes, ever, regardless.

Dior J’adore

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 5:31 pm

Poop. That was directed at the downtickers, not mole.

There is a point after which the Christian does not budge. No lies, however convenient, for example. It’s usually the things you’re most tempted to do, so it might involve the state, like tax returns or certain business dealings.

This morning I heard about the limitations of the church in Vietnam. Congregations over 100 have to pay a “fine”. Easy peasey. Lots of little congregations and rather than swollen mega churches, communities of love and trust. Take that, communists!

Rabz
December 10, 2023 5:33 pm

Those who were caught unaware at the rave were largely pacifists and the naïve

But, yeah, big fat man boobed psychopathic yarab hitlerists.

islam is a scourge, Cats. Humanity cannot afford to indulge it any longer.

It’s an even more retrograde force than nazism and communism combined.

Enough.

JC
JC
December 10, 2023 5:39 pm

I had an early lunch today with a pal who attended one of the top Ivys. He’s a member of the alumni association, and curiously, the actual president of the (alumni) association resides in Australia. I won’t mention the university.

They’re good friends. The president told him that according to the feedback he’s getting from other alums, the clock is ticking on the current president. He’s now in the process of officially polling actual members around the world for feedback.

According to him (my friend), these idiots have basically broken a large part of the business model of these schools. A main strategy has always been to get a rump of kids from rich families both in the US and around the world with the objective of loading up endowments. This has now been shot to pieces.

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 5:39 pm

NSFW (kind of)

Asmon Gold on NPC streamers

WTF is going on, on TikTok.

Hmm yes. Glizzy – there are some of these female NPC streamers who say “Thank you for the glizzy” and as bad as it is, I lose it every time.

JC
JC
December 10, 2023 5:40 pm

DrBeauGan
Dec 10, 2023 5:21 PM

I had an early lunch today with a pal who attended one of the top Ivys. He’s a member of the alumni association, and curiously, the actual president of the (alumni) association resides in Australia. I won’t mention the university.

They’re good friends. The president told him that according to the feedback he’s getting from other alums, the clock is ticking on the current president. He’s now in the process of officially polling actual members around the world for feedback.

According to him (my friend), these idiots have basically broken a large part of the business model of these schools. A main strategy has always been to get a rump of kids from rich families both in the US and around the world with the objective of loading up endowments. This has now been shot to pieces.

JC
JC
December 10, 2023 5:41 pm

Ackman is basically saying the same thing here.

Bill Ackman
@BillAckman
This is an excellent summary of the serious legal and fiduciary implications to @Penn
, @Harvard
and @MIT
of their presidents’ failed leadership, and why Gay’s and Kornbluth’s continued employment creates substantial additional risk for Harvard and MIT.

In sum, by continuing to employ Gay and Kornbluth, both Harvard and MIT are continuing to endorse managements’ conduct and previous actions, deepening the universities’ liability.

In a corporate context, all three would have been dismissed within minutes of an emergency meeting of the boards. For now, only Penn has acted decisively.

Non-profit boards are often slow to act because they don’t have feedback from a massive stock drop and angry shareholders screaming at the directors. That said, the alumni are certainly screaming and they are shorting their donations.

The proverbial stock prices of Harvard and MIT have dropped more than 50% since the October 6th close, while @Penn
’s has bounced 20% off the lows based on today’s news, but is still down 40%.

Penn’s recovery will depend on whether and how its board is refreshed, who they choose as their next president, and whether they make necessary fundamental changes to the institution.

The same holds true for the others.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 10, 2023 5:42 pm

I noticed your drop-tick has done a couple of mine while we were chatting.

Their life must be so full of meaning and happiness.

Cassie of Sydney
December 10, 2023 5:43 pm

Apparently there was yet another festival of Jew hatred in Sydney’s CBD today. A neighbour, who’s Jewish, has just gotten home and I ran into him outside my unit. He said that he went into Woollies CBD (at Town Hall) and that the Obela products were again defaced with Jew hating slogans.

This is NSW in 2023. This is Australia in 2023. This is the West in 2023.

By allowing weekly festivals of Jew hatred, the NSWaffen and the NSW government (most of whom I have no doubt sympathise with the Jew haters) have indulged Jew hatred on a par with what happened in Germany in the 1930s. It is inevitable that there will be an attack, not if but when, and when that happens, I want Minns, I want his government ministers, I want the NSW Police Minister, and I want the NSW Police Commissioner in the dock.

As for Minns, the less said the better. He talks the talk, but nothing else. The reason why Labor won the election back in March was because the NSW Labor party finally vomited up someone who was suitable and unthreatening. But Minns has no power, he’s just a pretty and very useless face.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 5:43 pm

This has now been shot to pieces.

Good.

Actions have consequences.

Johnny Rotten
December 10, 2023 5:44 pm

A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.

– Groucho Marx

JC
JC
December 10, 2023 5:49 pm

One other thing I’ve been thinking about here.

These universities have opened themselves up to huge legal risks on two fronts. Very real class action from Jewish students over the issue of harassment and those students who are unable to obtain jobs because to what’s happened on campus and the wider public perception about them. They better start lawyering up because it’s coming I think.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 5:51 pm

Cassie – if it’s any consolation, they will pay for their staggering stupidity and cowardice.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 10, 2023 5:53 pm

With basic infrastructure devastated, phone and internet services frequently disrupted, and a number of health statisticians having been killed or gone missing, there is increasing concern that Gaza health authorities will be unable to continue keeping an accurate count of the casualty toll.

From Daily Mail link above.

Those ‘health statisticians’ sound as though they have been particularly vulnerable to Israeli bullets. They wouldn’t be Hamas operatives would they? Of course not.

Health statisticians are not the usual targets in warfare.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 10, 2023 6:00 pm

I thought it was interesting that he makes the argument Christianity was so successful vs the pagan gods because it was so intolerant of them and their practices.

Read an interesting take on such things today.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Our Constantinian Moment (7 Dec)

Pulls together Ms Ali and her recent experience, Constantine the Great, Jordan Peterson and the Screwtape Letters… 😀

JC
JC
December 10, 2023 6:01 pm

More thoughts on reaching peak woke.

With the exception of the UK (likely) every European nation is going to have nationalist right wing governments by 2026, or 2027 at the latest. Germany, France, Spain ,Portugal are all likely to go right. and hard. Trump is leading in the polls and I’m of a mind now that no matter who they put up ( I agree with one of the other commenters here that it will be Nuisance from California), Trump will win and the cheating won’t be enough to stop him.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 10, 2023 6:03 pm

Comment, regarding THAT three million quid – is she going to have to reimburse anyone for expenses? Her medical fund, for example?

Short answer no.
The deed itself doesn’t dictate the usage of any payment received.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 6:05 pm

This Shane of the Pogues – personally not a fan due to him sneering at every one for not getting drunk every day – this was a comatose drunk. How did he live so long?

Just one of life’s great mysteries, Louis. He was a traditional Oirish personage – hence his prodigious consumption of the booze.

Ultimately, we live our lives as we choose to. No need for you to get all judgemental about his legacy, such as it was.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 10, 2023 6:06 pm

Ivy League universities are Eight in number.
Source: Playboy magazine, 1979. “Women of the Ivy League”
Representatives of each Ivy League university were given equal .. er, exposure.. with the name of the relevant uni prominent in the caption of every image.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 10, 2023 6:07 pm

It will be Newsom v Haley.
Trump can’t run if he’s been unalived.
The US security state can not have a non-establishment candidate run again, let alone win.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 6:09 pm

And Louis, it is time for you to stop all of your self righteous sobbing.

If you’re after a useful trivia question, Cats – try this – how many of the Original Pretenders are still alive?
One
Two
Three
None of them …

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 6:11 pm

I enjoyed reading that, Bruce. Far better a “sympathetic outsider” than a dogmatic, self righteous “insider”.

The older I get the more easy it is to separate the two.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 10, 2023 6:12 pm

Louise “death” Adler covering itself in glory…

Louise Adler
@louiseadler
·
5h
Worth noting those now canceling their donations, withdrawing support of artists whose views they don’t share is that there was not a whisper of outrage when most arts org in the country declared #WeStandWithUkraine. So some wars against occupation are kosher and others aren’t?

Just a hint of Jewbaiting in her reply I think??

Rabz
December 10, 2023 6:15 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
December 10, 2023 6:17 pm

feelthebern
Dec 10, 2023 6:03 PM
Comment, regarding THAT three million quid – is she going to have to reimburse anyone for expenses? Her medical fund, for example?

Short answer no.
The deed itself doesn’t dictate the usage of any payment received.

I have a faint recollection that private health funds ask whether a third-party claim might be involved. If so, they will have their hands out for reimbursement of their disbursements.

While the Knickerless case is not the same as a motor vehicle accident, I would not be surprised if her health insurer, if she has one, puts up its hand for a share.

One of the potential problems of being in the headlines as receiving a lot of money.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 6:18 pm

some wars against occupation are Kosher and others are not?

How on earth is the wussia/’kraine contretemps considered worthy but Israel’s existential struggle against moozley psychopaths is not?

Yeah, because we exist in braindead collectivist clownworld.

Indolent
Indolent
December 10, 2023 6:22 pm

This is the woman who organised and implemented the false flag January 6 to cover up the stolen election.

Pelosi: ‘Our Democracy, Our Flag, Our Constitution’ Is At Stake if Trump Wins

Indolent
Indolent
December 10, 2023 6:24 pm
calli
calli
December 10, 2023 6:25 pm

There may be a quantifiable depth to stupid. Who knows?

Adler is plumbing it.

Stay tuned.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 10, 2023 6:28 pm

Wow that’s interesting, Townsville to Cape Melville on Cyclone Warning. Skipped the watch and it’s a massive chunk of coastline.

P
P
December 10, 2023 6:29 pm

The warmth radiated from these two, no longer with us, is evident in this clip:

St. Patrick’s Day Live (1988) – I love it.

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 10, 2023 6:30 pm

I have been away for a week and catching up on my YouTube subs, so sorry if this has been mentioned vefore. An interesting discussion on the Falklands, especially the ARA General Belgrano (ex USS Phoenix) on Drachinifels channel with author of Phoenix and Belgrano .
https://youtu.be/9QIvJAWOoPs?feature=shared .

Cassie of Sydney
December 10, 2023 6:38 pm

The never ending Jew hatred in suburbs where lots of Jews live continues.

Pro-Palestine vandals target Woollahra as Hanukkah begins.

Pro-Palestine vandals have again targeted Sydney’s eastern suburbs, spray-painting anti-Israel slogans on public infrastructure in what Jewish leaders say is designed to “distress” the Jewish population.

Graffiti reading “Israel is a terrorist state” and “free Palestine” was spotted scrawled at the back of cricket nets in Woollahra council’s Cooper Park, on Friday.

Two other locations in Woollahra were also targeted; a building on Rowe Street and an electricity substation box on Nelson Street.

Executive Council of Australian Jewry co-CEO Alex Ryvchin described the vandals as “imbeciles” who intentionally timed their attack to coincide with the beginning of a major religious celebration.

“This ugly propaganda daubed in neighbourhoods with large Jewish communities at the beginning of the festival of Hanukkah will distress and appal many in our community,” he said.

“That is clearly the aim of the imbeciles that did this. What it won’t achieve is an increase in support for Hamas or the liberation of Palestinians from their jihadist rulers.”

At the last census, 14 per cent of Woollahra residents identified as Jewish in the 2021 census, compared to 0.7 of Greater Sydneysiders.

The incidents mark the second time this month that public infrastructure in the eastern Sydney suburb has been defaced, after activists sprayed “free Palestine” on the front wall of the Woollahra Council chambers on New South Head Rd.

In a separate act of “blatant anti-Semitism” further south, the hateful phrase “f**k the Jews” was also spotted scrawled on a residential fence in Pagewood on Friday.

It is understood the three instances of vandalism in Woollahra have been reported to police.

A NSW spokeswoman said: “Officers attached to Eastern Suburbs Police Area Command are investigating multiple reports of property damaged with graffiti at several locations across Woollahra last Thursday night.”

These Nazis have been enabled by NSWaffen Police and by the NSWaffen Labor state government. The Nazis been given the green light to harass and intimidate Jews!

Cassie of Sydney
December 10, 2023 6:39 pm

What a great country we live in now.

Delta A
Delta A
December 10, 2023 6:40 pm

Don’t like my example of tolerance? Not surprising. You’d probably squeal and glue yourself to the front door so the guests couldn’t get in.

My mother, a kitchen philosopher, spoke more wisdom than we appreciated as know-it-all twenty-somethings.

“Don’t say ‘my child would never do/say that’,” she said, “until your child is dead.”

“And you,” she would say, pointing to whomever was caught in the kitchen with her, “don’t say you would never do (whatever) or adhere to the death to a belief, because you have no idea what God has in store for you.”

Calli, I’m sure that you, a staunch, practising Christian, never imagined that you would have beloved, Jewish family, until you did. I take heart from your strength, especially now that #2 granddaughter, almost 18 yo, is becoming serious about her boyfriend of a year, a Morman.

In short, be a bigot at your own peril.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 10, 2023 6:41 pm

JC, Ackman just shared this on twitter re the president of Harvard.

https://www.karlstack.com/p/the-curious-case-of-claudine-gay

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 10, 2023 6:44 pm

I don’t think there are too many cameras down Cooper park way.
Woollahra Council officers are different, cameras everywhere (traffic & security).
If the plod don’t find them, it’s because they don’t want to.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 10, 2023 6:45 pm

Melbourne University students plan pro-Palestine graduation stunt.

By Tess McCracken
6:24PM December 10, 2023
No Comments

University of Melbourne students have been encouraged to wear Palestinian scarves at their upcoming graduation events this week.

In a “call to action” on social media, the ‘unimelbforpalestine’ group has urged students to “show (their) solidarity” with Palestinian students as graduation ceremonies begin on Monday.

“Show your solidarity with your fellow students in Palestine and wear your keffiyeh at the graduation,” a post on Instagram read.

“It cannot be ‘business as usual’ while the University of Melbourne actively participates in the genocide of the Palestinian people.”

The post also encouraged students to tag the university in photos of themselves wearing the traditional Palestinian scarf and use the hashtag #NoBloodOnOurDegrees.

The university’s rules state graduates are “not permitted to wear self-resourced regalia”. |

Opposition Education spokeswoman Sarah Henderson has written to the University of Melbourne’s vice-chancellor Duncan Maskell to seek “assurance” that no students will don the Palestinian scarf at graduation ceremonies.

“The opposition is concerned that university students are being encouraged to wear a keffiyeh as a symbol of protest when graduating which is not only provocative but raises serious safety concerns for Jewish students.

“Please advise the consequences for graduates who wear protest regalia including whether they will be permitted to graduate, and what action will be taken against those who seek to incite students to protest in breach of university rules?

“I seek your advice as to how the university is combating acts of anti-Semitism on campus and in connection with the university, as well as anti-Jewish and anti-Israel hatred which is fuelling anti-Semitism.

“The alarming increase in antisemitism in our community means many Jewish Australians are living in fear including university students. Numerous students have reported they are too afraid to attend university or display symbols of their faith. This situation is intolerable.”

Ms Henderson told The Australian on Sunday she is “concerned this type of protest activities could spread to other universities”.

Would women be allowed to graduate from a university in “Palestine?”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 10, 2023 6:46 pm

Some idiots are just idiots but downtickers tend to be compulsive idiots. You don’t know what they mean and they never say.

I regard them with scorn. Failed attendees here.

Harlequin Decline
December 10, 2023 6:50 pm

Departed Oz via Sydney International last Tuesday. Very busy with check in lines stretching out into the common area near the drop off points.

In a rare improvement in the otherwise vexatious process of going through security the need to extract laptops and ipads from carry-on luggage had been done away with. At least at 8.01am on Tuesday 5 December it was, we’ll see how long that lasts.

The dumping of belongings on the belt was accordingly eased to create the bottleneck at the retrieval end but all in all an improvement.

And, in accordance with the conservation of vexation law that governs airports my girlfriend got into an argument with a obstreperous old Chinaman who accused her of eyeing off his wallet in the tray on the belt. It was identical to my wallet.

It did not lead to anything other than a large Pacific Islander women nearby loudly describing the muttering middle kingdomer as ‘A grumpy old prick’

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 10, 2023 6:52 pm

Maskell to seek “assurance” that no students will don the Palestinian scarf at graduation ceremonies.

Simples. If they wear it, they don’t graduate.

No certificate for you.

Sadly, some universities have already given way on aboriginal regalia, so it would be harder to enforce in these. A clear statement about no graduation for flouting regs should be made nevertheless, perhaps also now applied to aboriginal graduates.

No-one gets to make political statements on graduation day.
Start of the fightback against woke.

Vicki
Vicki
December 10, 2023 6:55 pm

As for Minns, the less said the better. He talks the talk, but nothing else. The reason why Labor won the election back in March was because the NSW Labor party finally vomited up someone who was suitable and unthreatening. But Minns has no power, he’s just a pretty and very useless face.

Cassie, no doubt you know what he said at the meeting of the Jewish community after the dreadful Opera House debacle. It wasn’t reported in the MSM, but I saw a report of it from a local Jewish newspaper. He acknowledged that God promised the land of Israel to Abraham. That is an astonishing acknowledgement of a political State leader – let alone a Labor Leader.

I know that he has not acted with the steel that we would all expect, thereafter. That is politics, as it now is. Give him time. I feel in my gut that he will be shown the way.

P
P
December 10, 2023 6:57 pm
rosie
rosie
December 10, 2023 6:58 pm

A reasonable caution and prudence would have led a tough chick off duty to make sure she knew where a gun was, and not too far off

This is ridiculous.
Do you know how many female idf were raped and murdered and taken hostage, on 7 October?

19 year old Naama Levy was only one example.
Another survivor from one of the kibbutz described how the young female idf observers in cabins opposite his home were tortured and he thought, raped for hours.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 10, 2023 6:59 pm

Melbourne University students plan pro-Palestine graduation stunt

Cunning stunts at Melbourne Uni?

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 7:00 pm

Rockdoc, I’m seeing 40-60kt wind gusts at the moment. It might be a “cyclone warning” but it’s hardly cataclysmic.

The ship we left at Tromso experienced 90kt in the Arctic Circle. Not nice. Apparently all the guests were told to return to their cabins and lay down for the Duration! We would have had a nice cache of scotch and gin.

Pity others who had to do it dry. But then, they didn’t. We left it behind for them. 🙂

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 10, 2023 7:04 pm

Re Knickerless’s amazing payout, she will surely have to refund some of it for disbursements of various sorts, including legal and medical. My friend had a simple injury claim. Medicare wanted reimbursement of all medical expenses relevant to the claim when it was finally settled. The same apparently also applies to workplace compo. Don’t know about private health funds.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 7:06 pm

Delta A
Dec 10, 2023 6:40 PM

In short, be a bigot at your own peril.

It’s like all they don’t like is going to disappear.

Muddy
Muddy
December 10, 2023 7:08 pm

BREAKING.
Former POTUS Donald Trump set to pull out of U.S. presidential race to focus on his biggest real estate development yet – Trump Gaza Plaza.*

*This may or may not be sheik news.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 10, 2023 7:10 pm

LOL. I put out the challenge at 6.42 and by 7.08 no ‘failed attendee’ has come in to admit to being such.

It won’t last, but at least the compulsive thumbs-down idiots who follow along behind every single comment ever made here by anyone to see whom they could best express their bile about had to restrain themselves for that brief period.

Baby steps, compulsives, baby steps.

Tom
Tom
December 10, 2023 7:14 pm

On Sky News. Elbow’s media bumboy Joe Hildebrand should be ashamed to call himself a “journalist”. He’s a paid Labor propaganda hack.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 7:15 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 10, 2023 7:16 pm

Yea. The ceasefire has been broken. We now have two self-nominated failed attendees. Keep going, mouth-breathers, let us see your true mettle.

If you chose to downtick me for a genuine reason then let me know. I will respond to you. Otherwise, grunt away, piggies. You will be ignored, but wear your ear tag well.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 7:17 pm

Sigh!.

Davey Boy
December 10, 2023 7:17 pm

In an online forum, quite slick,
A user received a downtick,
With each click of the thumb,
Their blog comment went numb,
WTF!? said the downticked bloke/chick

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 10, 2023 7:18 pm

Don’t you just love it when Labor lie like lying liars then blame the Libs for not fixing what they are presently trashing?

Coalition ‘failed spectacularly’ on energy policy for a decade: Jim Chalmers (Sky News, 10 Dec)

Treasurer Jim Chalmers says the Coalition government “failed spectacularly” on energy policy for the best part of decade when they were in power.

This comes as Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen refused to back the COP28 Summit nuclear capacity pledge.

He must have balls the size of Ayres Rock to say this with a straight face.
Sheesh.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 7:18 pm

spotted scrawled at the back of cricket nets in Woollahra council’s Cooper Park

Sacré bleu! I used to train there back in the nineties when I could bothered playing Cricket …

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 10, 2023 7:22 pm

I’m off to cook a delectable dish now for my dear Hairy one.
It won’t take long.
Hint: I can’t make it without breaking eggs. Real ones.

Prolly won’t be back here till tomorra. Will check the catch then.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 10, 2023 7:23 pm

wear your ear tag well

Ear tag. Nice.

Eartagged downticking Tartarians.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 7:24 pm

Dim Chambers says the Johalition government “failed spectacularly” on energy policy for the best part of decade when they were in power

As much as I hate to admit it, dim Jim is correct on this occasion.

Just not in the way that he might imagine, being irreparably braindead as he is.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 10, 2023 7:25 pm

Sigh!.

One failed attendee nominates himself.

But we knew that.

He had such potential once.
All he’s ever had though.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 7:25 pm

oops – trigger warning, Cats: Goose Morristeen …

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 10, 2023 7:26 pm

P, I sent that email to DB on Friday.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 7:31 pm

Coming Soon — MIA: Masculinity in America

What does it mean to be a man in America today? Young men are told that masculinity is “toxic,” traditional gender roles are oppressive, fathers are unnecessary, and women are no different from men. This is leaving young men grappling with questions about their identity and purpose. Aldo Buttazzoni searches for the truth and speaks with respected experts about the critical role men play in society in PragerU’s upcoming short documentary,

Rabz
December 10, 2023 7:31 pm
billie
December 10, 2023 7:33 pm

calli

a pile of lamb chops

Oh, chops or cutlets?

A good collective noun for lamb chops

P
P
December 10, 2023 7:35 pm

Dear Dover,

I would appreciate if you could send to me Bar Beach Swimmer’s email address.

Thanking you in appreciation,

Yours sincerely,
P

P
P
December 10, 2023 7:37 pm

Not appreciation but anticipation

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
December 10, 2023 7:37 pm

Bought Christmas Tree today. $200. Was $120 last year and $80 in 2019.

Davey Boy
December 10, 2023 7:39 pm

Fingers point, whispers spread
Guilt or innocence unknown
Blame falls, who gave it?

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 10, 2023 7:40 pm

This arvo I watched the first episode on the series The West on YouTube; well worth the time.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 7:40 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 10, 2023 7:41 pm

Reading “Conflict – The Evolution of Warfare From 1945 to Ukraine.” by General David Petraeus and Andrew Roberts. Seems that, in the buildup to the Yom Kippur War of October 1973, Kissinger warned the Israelis that any preemptive, aggressive strikes would cause a loss of American support…. good reading, highly recommended.

Davey Boy
December 10, 2023 7:41 pm

Blog downticking
Comments disappear like leaves
Silent readers mourn

Winston Smith
December 10, 2023 7:43 pm

Cassie:
I’ve been wearing my “Hard Times Create Strong Men etc” T Shirts all week ((Not the same one of course – I buy them in 5 shirt lots) and so far out of 12 people who asked me to stop while they read it, and were then asked which one described todays leaders, ALL OF THEM picked “Weak Men Create Hard Times.”
I think we are in more trouble than we suspect.

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 7:45 pm

Lol, Davey.

Haiku for the disengaged.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 7:45 pm

Ah, Miss Janet Planet – just being the best without having to resort to some screechy caterwauling, or something.

Tastee … 🙂

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 10, 2023 7:47 pm

feelthebern
Dec 10, 2023 6:41 PM

A good article, with Epstein thread running all the way through it.
How nice for the ex-dean Epstein catamite to be able to get such a … pliable… successor.

And, I know this is hard to believe, but I fully expected her to be a grievance studies guru of shonky scholarship.

What a nest of turds at that uni.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 7:48 pm

Miss White Dress

miltonf
miltonf
December 10, 2023 7:49 pm

Rubbish like Chalmers strike me as being intellectually crippled. All those years at the UNI I suppose. Universities have a lot to answer for.

calli
calli
December 10, 2023 7:50 pm

On the same theme…

All those downticks will be lost in time,
like tears in rain.

Time to die.

Bye bye.

MatrixTransform
December 10, 2023 7:51 pm

Silent readers mourn

close enough

Rabz
December 10, 2023 7:51 pm
Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 7:52 pm

I think that this horrific tragedy has caught many of us moralists unaware.

The same “style” of degrading slaughter occurred in Hebron in 1929. and was reported about ISIS.

Harlequin Decline
December 10, 2023 7:52 pm

Regarding building costs in Oz, here’s and example of why they are so high and how government ‘solutions’ make matters worse-

On my Strata town house (one of two) on the Northern Beaches I want to expand a room by 10 sq m and put in a lift. All on my Strata, neighbours OK, other Strata owner OK and, after an unnecessary geotec survey and waiver for the roof expansion being lower than the existing roof the Council gave it’s approval last year. The builder then starts on applying for the construction certificate in April.

Unfortunately the building is classified as Class 2 solely due to a common garage area underneath. This apparently is the same as a 15 storey apartment block which in turn requires sign off by no less than 11 different authorised consulting engineers. Due to the problems with the Opal towers etc and the resulting government clampdown many engineers have walked away from incurring the liability and/or insurance and those that are left are not interested in small jobs such as mine, the remainder apply the letter rather than the intent of the regulations.

Still not approved 9 months later and $60k spent, apart from the council approval costs.

Gilas
Gilas
December 10, 2023 7:53 pm

calli
Dec 10, 2023 4:38 PM

Gottfriend Wagner prefers to play the music of another ancestor, Franz Liszt

#metoo

And also, I strongly suspect, does our friend Gilas.

Quite correct, Dear Calli.
Liszt was the undisputed giant of 19th C piano music, as well as a pioneer of futuristic harmonies, freely copied by the parasitic Wagner, eg. see the “Siegfried Chord” in the Liszt’s Faust Symphony.

Liszt’s 8 operatic transcriptions from Wagner’s operas summarise the best from his eventual SiL.
As for the rest, I have struggled through the Ring and Parsifal.. To describe them as turgid dross is an understatement IMO, though I am aware that many people, including some Cats, swear by the antisemitic penny-pincher’s opus.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 10, 2023 7:53 pm

Romantic Warrior is a mighty horse.
Wins the HK Cup with Aussie JMac on board.
Pity it doesnt have it’s balls because that win & Cox Plate would make it a gazillion dollar horse at stud.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 10, 2023 7:53 pm

Rockdoc, I’m seeing 40-60kt wind gusts at the moment. It might be a “cyclone warning” but it’s hardly cataclysmic.

Looking pretty sick atm for a cyclone. High vertical wind shear and dry air not helping.

She is continuing south/south west which no one has expected despite the Coral Sea having the reputation of the most erratic paths in the world.

As soon as she gets clear conditions and re-intensifies she will turn west/west nor west due to the upper high over central Queensland. From what I learned anything below Cat 3 generally is steered by surface winds and above Cat 3 by upper level winds.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 7:55 pm

Wow

MatrixTransform
December 10, 2023 7:55 pm

home made pesto yesterday for dinner accompanied with a Montalto Pinot Noir and Die Hard 1 … definitely festive

tonight is another pasta.
casarecchia with pancetta, broad beans, asparagus, tarragon and creme fresh … and Die Hard 2

Winston Smith
December 10, 2023 7:57 pm

Re: the discussion on Shoe Bombers and Arse bombers:
The peritoneal cavity can reasonablyhold 2 litres of liquid for Continual Abdominal Peritoneal Dialysis comfortably without any sign of abnormal distension. That liquid could quite easily be substituted for an explosive mixture that isn’t absorbed through the gut/peritoneal lining.
Extreme versions of this could hold at least 10 kilos of liquid explosive.
Only detectable through X/Ray airport scanners.
The only issue is the detonator made small enough to be missed or be made from radio-opaque material.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:02 pm

Just trying to take a break from all the sh*t currentlee going down on this planet, Cats.

If that makes me an monstrous ol’ sexist dinobore, then so be it … 😕

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 10, 2023 8:03 pm

The only issue is the detonator made small enough to be missed or be made from radio-opaque material.

Wouldnt the hissing fuse going up the trouser leg be a giveaway?

Or perhaps a length of det cord up the eye of the tallywhacker and into the bladder.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 10, 2023 8:04 pm

Opinion
Andrew Bolt: Tiwi Islands crocodile man shouldn’t stop Santos Barossa gas pipeline

No law or court in this country should stop a project so valuable, causing Santos losses of $1m a day, because of a plainly irrational Tiwi Islander Crocodile Man superstition.
Andrew Bolt
2 min read
December 10, 2023 – 7:00PM
2 comments

It’s hard to believe Australia could be so stupidly irrational that the Federal Court is now deciding whether to ban a $5.6m gas project because a man supposedly turned into a crocodile.

Gas giant Santos was hours from laying a pipe from its Barossa gas field, 140km from the Tiwi Islands to Darwin, when Justice Natalie Charlesworth told it to stop until she’d heard from a Tiwi traditional owner, Simon Munkara, who claimed the underwater pipe would hurt his culture.

So Munkara and other Tiwi elders last week got their days in court, and claimed the pipeline must be stopped because Wiyapurali, the Crocodile Man, and Mother Ampitji, a Tiwi version of the Rainbow Serpent, live in the seas just where the pipeline is supposed to go.

Munkara claimed he’d learned about the Crocodile Man from his dad: “A man got speared because he was a greedy person – didn’t share no food. He disappeared down to the beach, then he was drifting probably not far from where he got speared, Wiyapurali water, and he changed into a crocodile.”

And what a coincidence, Wiyapurali settled exactly where the pipeline would be.

There are actually two issues here. First is, do many Tiwi seriously believe in Crocodile Man, given 81 per cent are actually Christians?

What’s more, another witness in the case said Munkara had got this story all wrong: Wiyapurali stayed close to the Bathurst Island coast, not near the pipeline route, and Mother Ampitji lived in a freshwater lake, not the sea.

But second, what does any of this matter? Whether genuinely believed or not, no gas pipe way out at sea is going to upset some Crocodile Man and damage the lives of Tiwi Islanders.

Have we really lost all reason? No law or court in this country should stop a project so valuable, causing Santos losses of $1m a day, because of a plainly irrational superstition.

It is only by rejecting unreason and trusting science that our society has become so rich that we can afford, for instance, the welfare that subsidises the 85 per cent of Tiwi Islanders who don’t work.

If they now think Crocodile Man is more important than the taxes and royalties these gas projects bring, then let them sacrifice some of their own welfare payments first.

Cultures have consequences – or should – and it may be a good lesson for the Tiwi to depend on Crocodile Man’s help instead.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:05 pm

All those downticks will be lost in time,
like tears in rain,
not to mention those,
many, many,
typos … 😕

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 10, 2023 8:06 pm

Vicki
Dec 10, 2023 6:55 PM

Re Minns. Also during the election campaign he was asked about Perrottet’s religion with the insinuation that Perrottet was too religiously conservative . Minns responded that he would not comment about another person’s religion and instead revealed that he too is a Catholic. To me, that shows an uprightness that has not been on display in recent times

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 10, 2023 8:07 pm

Watching a DC movie called Shazam from a few years ago.
Good guys, bad guys, good & evil, no woke message.
How hard is it to make a watchable movie?

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 8:08 pm

@DrBeauGan – You don’t know Israel.
It’s true I haven’t been there for many years now. If they’ve all turned into creeps and wimps I’d be very disappointed.

You appear to hold a view that those who party at peace events, and who sing and smile, don’t know when to fight for the right to party at peace events and proudly grin with the flag.

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 10, 2023 8:08 pm

MatrixTransform
Dec 10, 2023 7:55 PM

cheese on toast here.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 10, 2023 8:09 pm
Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:11 pm

Cats – the first thang I would like to say is

… we would rather have had Huge Yackman … 😕

Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:13 pm
Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 8:17 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer
Dec 10, 2023 8:08 PM
MatrixTransform
Dec 10, 2023 7:55 PM

cheese on toast here.

Ham cheese toasties tonight.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 10, 2023 8:17 pm

cheese on toast here.

Sure it’s Sunday night but we should be able to better than this. Chorizo & scrambled eggs or carbonara (from scratch of course) were my Sunday night standbys.

Winston Smith
December 10, 2023 8:17 pm

Old Ozzie:

“So, Rishi spoke to me, we had several conversations and eventually I decided to support him, on very firm assurances that he gave me, an agreement that we made, that if I were to support him, he would take particular specific steps on several very discrete policy areas [including] illegal migration, legal migration.”

So “Rishi” told Braverman a stack of lies, and she believed him?!
Stupid woman.

Cassie of Sydney
December 10, 2023 8:18 pm

The same “style” of degrading slaughter occurred in Hebron in 1929″

Katz, last week I gave Cats a little history lesson of the pogrom in Hebron in 1929. People think pogroms only happened in Europe. WRONG. Pogroms were common in the Muslim world too. In 1944, in Baghdad,, there was a pogrom where hundreds of Jews were murdered and many, many Jewish women were raped.

Roger
Roger
December 10, 2023 8:19 pm

“Show your solidarity with your fellow students in Palestine and wear your keffiyeh at the graduation,” a post on Instagram read.

Because everyone has a keffiyeh gathering dust in the bottom drawer, yeah?

JC
JC
December 10, 2023 8:20 pm

feelthebern
Dec 10, 2023 6:41 PM

Thanks Bern. Boy, he’s not letting go.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:20 pm

Huge Yackman’s ‘sad’ Instagram photo sparks speculation after he missed garbage night … 😕

Delta A
Delta A
December 10, 2023 8:21 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Dec 10, 2023 7:10 PM

For goodness sake, Elizabeth, ignore the down ticks. Don’t look. Don’t scroll back.

They are harmless little pixels. They can’t hurt you unless you allow them to.

This is an open blog, not a pleasant chat around the fire – or air conditioner – depending on where you live. Apart from small groups here and there, we’re not buddies. We might be drawn to particular pixels and annoyed by others. Certainly, there’s plenty to learn from the experts who comment here. But in general, we are strangers with no connection to each other.

Give the tick the flick.

eric hinton
eric hinton
December 10, 2023 8:21 pm

Forget who the muso was who quipped the one band he’d never join was the Pretenders, you don’t get out alive.

Meanwhile, some Kinks. Stop your sobbing.

Gilas
Gilas
December 10, 2023 8:23 pm

For Rabz..

Girls with assets..

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 8:23 pm

Would women be allowed to graduate from a university in “Palestine?”

They’re proud of their female graduates in Diploma of Shaheed, but it doesn’t lead to a lengthy career.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:26 pm

Because everyone has a keffiyeh gathering dust in the bottom drawer, yeah?

Rog, solidarity with the palliweirdos has been a fashionable cause for many, many years.

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 8:26 pm

What does it mean to be a man in America today? Young men are told that masculinity is “toxic,” traditional gender roles are oppressive, fathers are unnecessary, and women are no different from men. This is leaving young men grappling with questions about their identity and purpose. Aldo Buttazzoni searches for the truth and speaks with respected experts about the critical role men play in society in PragerU’s upcoming short documentary….

Here’s the thing.

What motivation do (young) men have now in the West?

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
December 10, 2023 8:27 pm

Pity it doesnt have it’s balls because that win & Cox Plate would make it a gazillion dollar horse at stud.

No wrigglies kept in dry ice?

Dot
Dot
December 10, 2023 8:29 pm

No law or court in this country should stop a project so valuable, causing Santos losses of $1m a day, because of a plainly irrational Tiwi Islander Crocodile Man superstition.

Cool. We have “skinwalkers” now too, not just the Native Americans of southwest USA.

Now I want to change into Optimus Prime. The thing is, I’ll need a lot of fossil fuel…

Roger
Roger
December 10, 2023 8:30 pm

So “Rishi” told Braverman a stack of lies, and she believed him?!
Stupid woman.

She gave him the benefit of the doubt on the basis of his firm assurances because she wanted to the opportunity to do the right thing by the British electorate.

That he either lied or lost his nerve reflects poorly on him, not her.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:31 pm

Which reminds me:

We’re off to see the Yarabs
Off to see the Yarabs

Off to see the Yarabs

Roger
Roger
December 10, 2023 8:33 pm

Rog, solidarity with the palliweirdos has been a fashionable cause for many, many years.

These are 20 somethings, Rabz.

They didn’t know what a keffiyeh was before they went to uni.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:34 pm

We’ve seen all the re-runs* before, I tells ya! 😕

*Just behold that mighty gullet, Cats!

Roger
Roger
December 10, 2023 8:34 pm

And it’s likely they can’t name either the river or the sea.

MatrixTransform
December 10, 2023 8:35 pm

cheese on toast

nothing wrong with that
cheese on toast or toasties in their various forms are our Friday go to
Saturdays and Sundays, I get to hunt and gather

tonight’s was outstanding
the broad beans came from the garden
the rest from the continental deli

was so bloody good that it looks like tomorrow night will be the same

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 10, 2023 8:36 pm

What motivation do (young) men have now in the West?

Just a gues dot, your nephew.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 8:36 pm

Katz, last week I gave Cats a little history lesson of the pogrom in Hebron in 1929.

Descriptions included cut off penis stuck through a hole sliced in the middle of his tongue . . . while alive of course. There’s no point doing that unless you can enjoy it while your victim is alive to experience it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 10, 2023 8:36 pm

A haiku for the socially inept:

Eartagged downtickers
Crying with impotent rage
They have no purpose

Roger
Roger
December 10, 2023 8:39 pm

Chorizo & scrambled eggs or carbonara (from scratch of course) were my Sunday night standbys.

Chorizo & eggs…mmm.

Its mention in Midnight Run set me on a quest.

Rabz
December 10, 2023 8:39 pm

err, Rog – like, that matters, Squire!

Fashionable causes, remain fashionable causes – presumably until these two latch onto them …

Then it’s Time Magazine covers writ large …

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 10, 2023 8:42 pm

Katz, last week I gave Cats a little history lesson of the pogrom in Hebron in 1929.

Old age, and a liking for strong drink have dulled my memory, but didn’t someone post a link here about the truth behind “massacre” at Deir Yassin?

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 10, 2023 8:42 pm

cheese on toast

Standard fare from the Sunbeam electric frypan as kids on Sunday nights watching the Mouseketeers on our AWA Radiola Deep Image Television.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 10, 2023 8:44 pm

What motivation do (young) men have now in the West?

Good question.
There will always be a cohort that wants to succeed, and what success means to the individual varies.
The problem is the cohort who feels helpless, hopeless & there’s nothing to strive for.
If that cohort grows too big, too quickly, that’s when the facade of a cohesive society breaks down.

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