Open Thread – Wed 13 Dec 2023


The Triumph of Judas Maccabeus, Rubens, 1634–1636

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Vicki
Vicki
December 14, 2023 2:20 pm

BTW I would hazard a guess that the Gen Zs who are launching a political party are from that slice of the population whose grandees HAVE financed much of their “goodies”.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 14, 2023 2:21 pm

The fate of the captured Hamarse animals should be decided by the mothers of the Israeli dead.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 14, 2023 2:23 pm

OR me.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 14, 2023 2:25 pm

Oh – you mean the grandparents who help finance cars and/or school fees/holidays OS…

The grandees who paid the HECS debt, and made sizable contributions to the mortgage…

billie
December 14, 2023 2:26 pm

Ms Wilkinson: “Don’t make me sound like a cheap tabloid journalist Mr Richardson.”

Oh my, that came out without any preceding thought.

I do hope Bruce does extremely well out of this, on top of her misery.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
December 14, 2023 2:28 pm

I would now like to see the court call Karl Stefanovic to outline the extensive defamation risk training he and Lisa received over the years at Channel 9…

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 14, 2023 2:29 pm

Glad I didn’t have a coffee in hand billie.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
December 14, 2023 2:30 pm

Wilkinson told the court she didn’t think viewers would listen to her speech and deduce that Ms Higgins’ rape allegations were true because she can’t read viewers’ minds.

She does not consider herself a tabloid journalist, despite running Dolly and Cleo magazines for 15 years – both of which featured paparazzi photos with various articles about celebrities.

Reading between the lines, we can all deduce that Wilkinson is a deluded hack who had a partisan agenda. I’m guessing Richo already has her lined up like that too. Oh, and they should have added vacuous between ‘various and articles’ in the excerpt above.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 14, 2023 2:33 pm

Back on…

Toad alleging conspiracy, but not by anyone nameable…

Taking Brite-knees to see the AFP wasnt the right thing to do as they weren’t specialist sexual assault police..

duncanm
duncanm
December 14, 2023 2:33 pm

She does not consider herself a tabloid journalist, despite running Dolly and Cleo magazines for 15 years – both of which featured paparazzi photos with various articles about celebrities.

The delusion runs deep with the Pirate and his consort.

Megan
Megan
December 14, 2023 2:35 pm

“Im reading between the lines because thats what we do as journalists”

Translation from idiot journo speak: I make things up to suit the narrative.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 14, 2023 2:37 pm

Funeral of Sergeant Major (Res.) Gal Meir Eisenkot who was killed in Gaza; son of Israeli war cabinet member Gadi Eisenkot and his wife Hana

Yes, their nephew also fell in combat a few days after their son. It’s a hard price to pay, but at least Hamas is being exterminated in return.

Cassie of Sydney
December 14, 2023 2:38 pm

“we can all deduce that Wilkinson is a deluded hack who had a partisan agenda”

That was obvious to me from the beginning of this tawdry saga. The whole thing, from day one, was a POLITICAL HIT JOB.

Dragnet
Dragnet
December 14, 2023 2:39 pm

I’d hazard a guess that Mr Richardson (son of THE Richo) would also know how politics works.

Tom
Tom
December 14, 2023 2:40 pm

If we’re lucky, we might get three days out of the first Test. After 15 overs, the Pakistan juniors bowling attack still can’t conjure a wicket against the midget houso ranga cheat or Hamas’s man at Perth stadium.

Delta A
Delta A
December 14, 2023 2:40 pm

Wilkinson doing the Mills and Boon version of the alleged incident. Then:

Richo: you discovered roadblocks to the investigation before the alleged rape occurred.

Wilks: happens all the time.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 14, 2023 2:43 pm

Reading upthread, I note a few comments regarding bespoke’s unique way of spelling. IIRC, bespoke said back on Sinc’s Cat that he, bespoke, had dyslexia (or similar). For that reason, I find it rather rude for people to remark about it at all.

Bespoke was busted a while back. He wrote quite a long screed condemning me after getting miffed at a remark of mine. As I pointed out, he had suddenly mastered spelling.

He also showed he could construct sentences and even paragraphs. Not very elegantly, but he could do it. His pretence of being a dyslexic, semi-illiterate oaf is just an affectation. As to why he felt it was worth doing, one can only speculate.

Alamak!
December 14, 2023 2:43 pm

Lisa La Toad is way, way, out of her depth. Intellectually, professionally, ethically and legally.

Obvious after only listening for 5 long minutes to her mental drowning under questioning

She doesn’t seem to have been prepared for the trial and lacks the smarts to just wing it, as she probably hoped to do.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
December 14, 2023 2:45 pm

Ms Wilkinson giving hot-gospelling speeches about young women. Barrister letting her go. It’s a trap dollybird, moron.

Frank
Frank
December 14, 2023 2:46 pm

Lisa gets a chance to show them her working, pretty excruciating.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 14, 2023 2:46 pm

She doesn’t seem to have been prepared for the trial and lacks the smarts to just wing it, as she probably hoped to do.

Uncharitable minds – like mine – had formed the opinion that she was going to dazzle these oafs with her brilliance – “Do you know who I am?”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 14, 2023 2:48 pm

Toad claiming “roadblocks” to a police investigation.
She is asked to identify these roadblocks.
She claims security guards didn’t call the cops when they discovered a nekked Britnah on the couch. Err, well, they asked her if she wanted medical or other help and she refused.
Then, apparently, the Architects of the Great Conspiracy took her to the “wrong police”.
Next she quotes an opinion from George Williams (renowned left-leaning constitutional lawyer).

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 14, 2023 2:48 pm

Toad challenged on what were roadblocks to investigation…

Apparently not calling police/ambos etc by the security was a roadblock to investigation….
No HR department in Parliament meant she couldnt complain to HR….
Met minister in same room as alleged rape – still before any investigation.
Internal parliamentary AFP not trained for sex assault. Saw sex assault mob 2 weeks later.
CCTV difficult to get.

The bolded one is possibly the only one which might have impeded investigation.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 14, 2023 2:49 pm

And good on them Vicki. No doubt a lot of Tiger mums in that lot. They know the value of good education. Those boys had the same opportunity as the rest but more application. I wish I had applied myself a lot more. I found a niche and used it well but always thought I should have gone in a different direction but too lazy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 14, 2023 2:49 pm

Oh, and apparently “a young woman was pressured” doesn’t mean Brown and Reynolds pressuring her.
It means Britnah “felt pressure to pertect her jerb”.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 14, 2023 2:54 pm

Ms Wilkinson: “Don’t make me sound like a cheap tabloid journalist Mr Richardson.”

‘I’m perfectly capable of doing that myself’

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
December 14, 2023 2:55 pm

Ms Wilkinson on the ropes. She’s getting close to going full Comical Ali.

Cassie of Sydney
December 14, 2023 2:56 pm

Since the events of 7 October, the Jews in my firm have gotten together every few weeks to talk about stuff, be it the events of 7 October, the spiralling Jew hatred in this country and so on. We do what we Jews are good at, we schmooze, eat and laugh.

Yesterday arvo, at our Hanukkah get together, we munched on donuts and spoke about the firmwide morning tea planned for this morning. Our firm decided, very nicely, to have a Hanukkah morning tea with donuts and latkes, to which everyone in the firm was invited.

In order to advertise the Hanukkah morning tea we wondered about a good punch line for the firmwide email and someone suggested…

From the river to the sea, come join our morning tea

How we laughed. At the end of the day we Jews will always have our sense of humour, something our enemies are not so blessed with!

Alamak!
December 14, 2023 2:57 pm

Uncharitable minds – like mine – had formed the opinion that she was going to dazzle these oafs with her brilliance – “Do you know who I am?”

Gotta be impressed muchly by her ‘courage’ in entering a battle of wits unarmed.

Vicki
Vicki
December 14, 2023 3:01 pm

Again, another excellent article in the Australian Spectator, this one by Kerry Wakefield, “The Coming Crisis”, this is an extract:

When even painters and plumbers working on your house volunteer that the world is going crazy, and can’t continue this way, something’s up. Cleverclogs Twitter boss Elon Musk would agree, having recently tweeted a tumbling gladiator, with the headline ‘Watching the Roman Empire collapse again, but with wifi and memes this time’. He commented, ‘Anyone feeling late stage empire vibes?’ Eminent military historian Victor Davis Hanson predicted recently, ‘the next 12-18 months are going to be the most explosive in our history since the Great Depression’. This sense of fin-de-siècle is apparently commonly felt, and not only in my circles.

duncanm
duncanm
December 14, 2023 3:03 pm

Gotta be impressed muchly by her ‘courage’ in entering a battle of wits unarmed.

She’s the classic case of not knowing what she doesn’t know.

John H.
John H.
December 14, 2023 3:04 pm

Alamak!
Dec 14, 2023 2:57 PM
Uncharitable minds – like mine – had formed the opinion that she was going to dazzle these oafs with her brilliance – “Do you know who I am?”

Gotta be impressed muchly by her ‘courage’ in entering a battle of wits unarmed.

Living with Bandana Man will create the impression of being in the profoundly gifted category.

rosie
rosie
December 14, 2023 3:06 pm
Gabor
Gabor
December 14, 2023 3:07 pm

Reading upthread, I note a few comments regarding bespoke’s unique way of spelling. IIRC, bespoke said back on Sinc’s Cat that he, bespoke, had dyslexia (or similar). For that reason, I find it rather rude for people to remark about it at all.

Must be a temporary, occasional affliction then.
He can write coherently and spell perfectly when he wants to, he admitted to taking the urine previously, but if you want to defend/excuse him by all means be our guest.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 14, 2023 3:07 pm

Artists impression of the questioning of Mrs Wilkinson

https://imgflip.com/i/89auw6

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 14, 2023 3:09 pm

Living with Bandana Man will create the impression of being in the profoundly gifted category.

Well said!

John H.
John H.
December 14, 2023 3:14 pm

Gabor
Dec 14, 2023 3:07 PM
Reading upthread, I note a few comments regarding bespoke’s unique way of spelling. IIRC, bespoke said back on Sinc’s Cat that he, bespoke, had dyslexia (or similar). For that reason, I find it rather rude for people to remark about it at all.

Must be a temporary, occasional affliction then.
He can write coherently and spell perfectly when he wants to, he admitted to taking the urine previously, but if you want to defend/excuse him by all means be our guest.

It can depend on effort. I’m terrible at proof reading and can lose patience checking. Perseverance can overcome the problem but errors still slip through. Perhaps on occasion Bespoke goes the extra mile. Bespoke is harmless, I don’t have any issues with Bespoke except sometimes I find his responses odd. I will excuse him.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 14, 2023 3:15 pm

A summary of Cane Toad’s evidence …

“I read between the lines.
I know how politics works.
Mzzz Hoggins felt that [insert bullshit story here].”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 14, 2023 3:18 pm

Fark!
Richo now asking her to find page numbers and read stuff.
Like, just sooooo unfair.

rosie
rosie
December 14, 2023 3:18 pm

. But there are certainly a great many who sacrifice their personal time and space to care for their grandchildren preschool & after school. They also use a lot of their spare cash to buy clothes and “extras” for the little ones.

You’d never guess what I’m doing right now, left at 6.30 am, drive takes me an hour, as long as I leave that early.
And it’s no sacrifice btw.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 14, 2023 3:25 pm

I know it would be a total diversion, but when Toad said “I know how politics works”, it would have been great if Richo had said, “So, if Mr Albanese or Senator Wong or Mr Bandt makes a public statement, your default position is to assume there is probably some base or cynical political motive behind their statements?”

Gabor
Gabor
December 14, 2023 3:25 pm

John H.
Dec 14, 2023 3:14 PM

Gabor

It can depend on effort. I’m terrible at proof reading and can lose patience checking.

We all make grammatical and spelling mistakes, as long as it is still intelligible I don’t even bother correcting.

His “misspellings” are deliberate, just watch out for them.
As to does it bother me?

No, he hardly ever posts anything worth reading, I simply responded to the post by an other poster who jumped to his defense.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 14, 2023 3:28 pm

Do either Richo or Lee realise if they continue to challenge Wilkos version of truth they put at risk any chance of being invited to her New Years bash?

Delta A
Delta A
December 14, 2023 3:30 pm

Must be a temporary, occasional affliction then.

The severity of dyslexia does seem to fluctuate, depending on a variety of factors.

Having said that, you’re correct, Gabor; bespoke, along with many lads here, enjoys ‘taking the urine’ on occasions. They’re a funny bunch.

Johnny Rotten
December 14, 2023 3:30 pm

Steve Inman:

An armed robber takes a beating from his victim

Seems to me that these posts are really advertisements for a vacumn cleaner/air pump with a funny video as an afterthought.

Megan
Megan
December 14, 2023 3:34 pm

Richo: you discovered roadblocks to the investigation before the alleged rape occurred.

Wilks: happens all the time.

Hack status confirmed.

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 14, 2023 3:34 pm

Taking Brite-knees to see the AFP wasnt the right thing to do as they weren’t specialist sexual assault police..

And not HR!!!!!

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 14, 2023 3:35 pm

I think that in such situations you need to look at the reality of the logistics – but never stop believing in the principles by which you live.

Thats nice, but military officers have an adage: amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics…

Second world war Japan thought the ‘warrior spirit’ of their military could overcome the overwhelming industrial power of America…. it couldnt.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 14, 2023 3:39 pm

CCTV difficult to get.

Rings true, if my experience with the AFP ‘losing’ exoneratory bodycam vision is any guide.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
December 14, 2023 3:40 pm

BBS, there is no HR for the staff of the elected Members or Senators. This should be fixed.

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 14, 2023 3:41 pm

From the river to the sea, come join our morning tea

That is fabulous, Cassie. Humour in the tradition of Mel Brooks and Kinky Friedman. May that sort of humour be still chuckled at by Jews and Gentiles a hundred years from now and beyond.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 14, 2023 3:43 pm

Twitter boss Elon Musk would agree, having recently tweeted a tumbling gladiator, with the headline ‘Watching the Roman Empire collapse again, but with wifi and memes this time’. He commented, ‘Anyone feeling late stage empire vibes?’

I am, the parallels with the decline of Rome are striking: debased currency, a decadent population, expensive foreign wars , bread and circuses and an insane body politic.

Ive read about seeing this movie before…

calli
calli
December 14, 2023 3:44 pm

Dragnet
Dec 14, 2023 2:39 PM
I’d hazard a guess that Mr Richardson (son of THE Richo) would also know how politics works.

Thanks Dragnet.

There were certain mannerisms and turns of phrase. Yes. He would know much…much “politics”.

😀

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 14, 2023 3:52 pm

duncanm
Dec 14, 2023 3:03 PM
Gotta be impressed muchly by her ‘courage’ in entering a battle of wits unarmed.

She’s the classic case of not knowing what she doesn’t know.

She has a lot of “unknown unknowns”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 14, 2023 3:53 pm

Bazinga at 1:48

Said in meeting (Sharaz, with brite-knees present) “want Lerhmann to have difficulty every getting a job again”…

I don’t think Lehrmann has pleaded malice. Would be interesting to know whether Marty and Reynolds have done so over in the West, particularly in light of Mrs Pirate’s evidence regarding her Twitter exchange with Reynolds. Fat fuck Hockey got a malicious defamation claim up against Teh Grauniad on the Yarra before Nine inherited the basket case.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 14, 2023 3:55 pm

Bazinga at 1:48

Said in meeting (Sharaz, with brite-knees present) “want Lerhmann to have difficulty every getting a job again”…

I don’t think Lehrmann has pleaded malice. Would be interesting to know whether Marty and Reynolds have done so over in the West, particularly in light of Mrs Pirate’s evidence regarding her Twitter exchange with Reynolds. Fat f u c k Hockey got a malicious defamation claim up against Teh Grauniad on the Yarra before Nine inherited the basket case.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 14, 2023 3:57 pm

Dover, any chance of getting f u c k out of the list of naughty words? It’s too useful to leave it suffering ther.

Alamak!
December 14, 2023 4:00 pm

Dover, any chance of getting f u c k out of the list of naughty words? It’s too useful to leave it suffering ther.

fcuk!

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 14, 2023 4:02 pm

But it’s a dry heat.

Dot
Dot
December 14, 2023 4:04 pm

Toad claiming “roadblocks” to a police investigation.

I feel the killing blow coming on soon.

She is asked to identify these roadblocks.

Hmm yes, Higgins herself? Delayed giving the data from two wiped/sterilised phones?

Then, apparently, the oArchitects of the Great Conspiracy took her to the “wrong police”.

I hope Lee rips this to shreds.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 14, 2023 4:06 pm

Judge strongly hinting to the defence hed greatly appreciate a little more detail around the “legal advice” MZZZ Toad received before her Logies speech.
Words to the effect “äs would be deemed inadvisable by any 1st year student lawyer”…

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
December 14, 2023 4:07 pm

Lee’s comments about Wilko getting or following legal advice about the Logies speech spell doom. Chortle. Could be amusing tomorrow.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 14, 2023 4:09 pm

Aha!
Justice Lee is all over the “sought legal advice” vs “followed legal advice”.
He “can’t imagine even a first year law student would advise a Crown witness to give that Logies speech ten days out from a trial.”
Gives them fair warning it will come up in re-examination tomorrow.
Code for “Get you story straight and stop bullshitting.”
Ms Crysanthou seemed less than her usual ebullient self when ‘Iz ‘Onner raised it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 14, 2023 4:10 pm

Released Hostage Blows the Lid off Terror Apologists’ Claims That Israeli Women Were Not Raped by Hamas

Goldstein-Almog and her children were released by the terror group, and the wife and mother gave an interview with the Israeli press on Dec. 11 about her time as a hostage.

During her interview, Goldstein-Almog revealed she heard firsthand accounts of sexual violence from other female hostages by their Hamas captors.

“I heard the testimony directly from girls and heard things second hand,” Goldstein-Almog said. “Some of the sexual violence happened well into our time in Gaza, not in the first week.”

“But the way their bodies were desecrated, they don’t know how they will deal with that. It happened weeks into their time in Gaza,” she said.

“If they were released earlier, they would’ve been saved from experiencing sexual violence,” Goldstein-Almog added.

Goldstein-Almog said they “heard three stories firsthand of women saying they were sexually abused and we heard an additional story.” She added that “presumably, there are more instances” of sexual violence by Hamas.

A spokesperson for the Biden administration State Department noted earlier this month that one of the reasons Hamas does not want to release women hostages is because “they don’t want those women to be able to talk about what happened to them.”

Many American progressives have been largely silent on Hamas’ sexual violence against Israelis, while some have downplayed or dismissed the reports of sexual assault.

Briahna Joy Gray, a former national press secretary for Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign, tweeted earlier this month, “‘Believe all women’ was always an absurd overreach: woman should be heard, claims should be investigated, but evidence is required.” – (What would the Australian Tabloid Journalist???? Say?)

“The same is true of the allegations out of Israel,” Gray wrote in a Dec. 4 tweet. “But also, this isn’t a ‘believe women’ scenario bc no female victims have offered testimony.”

Winston Smith
December 14, 2023 4:11 pm

Vicki:

Eminent military historian Victor Davis Hanson predicted recently, ‘the next 12-18 months are going to be the most explosive in our history since the Great Depression’. This sense of fin-de-siècle is apparently commonly felt, and not only in my circles.

I haven’t read VDHs article/whatever, but it’s been obvious to me for the last 6 months that there are too many things coming to a head mid/late 2024 to be comfortable about. From Australian power supply to European winter time, to a surging muslim arrogance and Western weakness, from European political Quislings to the US geriatric leadership, the entire Western ship of state appears to be heading towards unseen shoals and the few people that can make a difference are not in a position to do so.
2024 will make us or break us, I fear. And the vast majority of people are unaware of the consequences of ignoring the perils.

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 14, 2023 4:11 pm

The facility I work in is large and well air conditioned. Except my office where the vents are pumping out warm air that appears to be around 35 degrees.

First world problem, I know, but when your wool rich trousers start to sweat. I wish I wore a short sleeve crimpolene drip dry safari suit today.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 14, 2023 4:12 pm

H B Bear
Dec 14, 2023 3:57 PM

The one English word that express the full range of human emotions.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 14, 2023 4:12 pm

Prosecuting lawyer picks up on “we have multiple claims of “legal advice was sought” but no idea what the advice was, high risk, medium or none”.
Something about without a waiver the advice is privileged, judge seemed to think that was an interesting point.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 14, 2023 4:13 pm

Snap mole and Dunny Brush.
I was shouting at my compuda when she said “sought legal advice” and was afraid it had gone through to the keeper.
Justice Lee just pulled a Colombo … “just one last thing before you go”.
Waited until stumps to pull the jaws of the bear trap open.
Will this win another Logie?

Gilas
Gilas
December 14, 2023 4:13 pm

Denying the blatantly obvious, repeatedly.
Defending the indefensible, repeatedly.
Openly self-incriminating.
Giving speeches.
Arguing and joking with council.
Joking with the judge, verging on open disrespect of their authority

It is clear, from Angus and Bunions’ testimonies so far, that they both see themselves as the equals of the barristers in a Federal Court.
No need for humility, a sense of danger or self-preservation when placed under oath, to answer to people who can destroy their career, finances and reputation.

Compare and contrast this with ALL other witnesses in this trainwreck.
Yet more evidence that the MSM is a law unto themselves, they see themselves as being above the law others are subject to.

Lee has already decided that the Logies speech was prejudicial, but would like to see what legal advice Bunions was referring to this morning, alleged as justification for this abomination.

The good news is that Richardson is almost done with this slag.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 14, 2023 4:13 pm

can express

Alamak!
December 14, 2023 4:14 pm

Lee’s comments about Wilko getting or following legal advice about the Logies speech spell doom

That ought to be end of the second defence raised by Ten. Either Ten or Wilkinson failed to vet the story properly using a defined process and if it was done failed to follow the advice given. I see $$$$$ littering the carpet in this courtroom by EOD tomorrow.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 14, 2023 4:15 pm

Yes, mole, he knows they can scream “privilege”, but he is warning them he thinks it would be in their best interests to come clean.
I do hope she admits she Googled “bettercallsaul.com”.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
December 14, 2023 4:18 pm

Defense going back to the lipreader canard, that seems an admission that their defense is in serious trouble. Judge won’t accept that I got advice defense, they need a hail mary.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 14, 2023 4:20 pm

Ms Crysanthou seemed less than her usual ebullient self when ‘Iz ‘Onner raised it.

I imagine this how people feel being chained to a Kooka on Sydney Harbour.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 14, 2023 4:22 pm

Paki caught Paki bowled Paki.

calli
calli
December 14, 2023 4:22 pm

I wish I wore a short sleeve crimpolene drip dry safari suit today.

The epaulettes wick away perspiration.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 14, 2023 4:23 pm

1/126 btw. Warner is still batting.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 14, 2023 4:25 pm

I imagine this how people feel being chained to a Kooka on Sydney Harbour.

They are past the jokey beers, the feet have been tired and at the moment they are hearing the chain ratting over the gunnels.

Toad has tried to throw a fair bit of shade at 10/Producer though, distancing herself from as much of the actual investigation follow up as possible, and claiming she was relying on their legal advice etc.

Could she have an “öut” by presenting herself as just let down by the network?
Would that shield her at all?

Vicki
Vicki
December 14, 2023 4:27 pm

Thats nice

The ultimate “put down”.

Water off a duck’s back – pardon the pun.

Vicki
Vicki
December 14, 2023 4:31 pm

1/126 btw. Warner is still batting.

It’s damn hot up here, the cows have got to be brought in, Warner is still in, & Duk is being insulting…….

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 14, 2023 4:33 pm

Labor Blackout Chris Bowen’s Acknowledgement to Country in Dubai ignites backlash – as the energy minister lashes out at fierce critic: ‘Racist and disgusting’

. Chris Bowen calls for Andrew Bolt’s sacking
. Bowen slams ‘primitive’ Indigenous description

Labor Blackout Chris Bowen has called for fierce critic Andrew Bolt to be sacked for saying the energy minister was ‘kowtowing to the primitive’ by opening a speech in Dubai with a modified Acknowledgement of Country.

Blackout Bowen hit back at Bolt on Thursday, claiming the barb had crossed the line and was a ‘racist and disgusting’ attack on First Nations people.

‘Like most Australians, I usually ignore Andrew Bolt,’ Blackout Bowen wrote.

‘But on this occasion, I won’t. His attack on First Nations people as ‘primitive’ is racist and disgusting. News Ltd should sack him.’

The word Blackout Bowen objected to was in the context of Bolt condemning the minister’s modified ‘Acknowledgment of Country’ that he gave to ‘Indigenous people across the world’ while speaking on Saturday during last week’s UN Cop28 climate talks in Dubai.

‘Don’t Blackout Bowen and the Labor Prime Minister himself realise many Australians are sick of this kowtowing to the primitive?’ Bolt wrote.

Although Acknowledgement to Country is normally recognition by non-Indigenous people of being on the land of Aboriginal people, Blackout Bowen made it much more general and wide-ranging before his Cop28 speech.

‘I begin with an acknowledgement that at the heart of action on climate change must be profound respect for those people who have cared for our respective lands for millennia – Indigenous people across the world,’ Blackout Bowen said on Saturday.

‘I reaffirm our Government’s commitment to the inclusion of our First Nations people in our climate change response and clean energy future.

‘Recognising that respect for Indigenous knowledge, cultures and traditional practices is critical,’ he said.

Bolt labelled Blackout Bowen’s gesture as ‘brainless posturing’ and ‘race-based tribalism with its ruinous crusade against oil and gas’.

‘Everyone in Australia is surely linked to some indigenous peoples somewhere on the planet from ‘millennia’ past,’ he argued.

‘Is Blackout Bowen seriously demanding ‘profound’ respect for the ‘indigenous knowledge’ of every Celt from England, every Saxon from Germany, every Gaul from France, or every Roman from central Italy?

‘Or are the ‘indigenous people’ he’s flattering only people who aren’t white?

From the Comments

– Most Australians ignore Blackout Bowen. But on this occasion the national embarrassment he’s become need to be called out. Albo should sack him.

– Blackout Bowen is seriously stupid! If Labor Albanese doesn’t remove him FAST, then he will end up looking as dumb as Blackout Bowen

– This is nothing more than the Labor party virtue signalling at yet another international cocktail party, what a joke

– Blackout Bowen is devoid of intelligence and unfit for a position in Parliament. Every portfolio he has “managed” has turned into a disaster because of his incompetence

Johnny Rotten
December 14, 2023 4:35 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Dec 14, 2023 12:49 PM
There was a young girl from Madras

There once was a man from East Kent
Whose tool was so long that it bent
To save her some trouble
He folded it double
And instead of coming…he went.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 14, 2023 4:38 pm

Could she have an “öut” by presenting herself as just let down by the network?

An interesting question. There is a contractual arrangement between Mrs Pirate and Ch10. I suspect it would fall short of a full contract of employment as most employees would know it. Lee J would make an apportionment of any damages and either party would have to show an error of law to change the apportionment on appeal.

Winston Smith
December 14, 2023 4:38 pm

There must be a level of complexity to this statement I’m just not seeing:

Richo: you discovered roadblocks to the investigation before the alleged rape occurred.
Wilks: happens all the time.

How can there be a roadblock to investigating an act that hasn’t yet been committed?
Can someone explain this to me, a Winston of Little Brain?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 14, 2023 4:40 pm

Lee has already decided that the Logies speech was prejudicial

Technically it was prejudicial towards the criminal trial, not this one.
Lee will take it as indicative of not acting in good faith. The only potential saviour is what the “legal advice” was.
Well, not really a saviour.
If she did get a legal green light it will sink the career of whoever gave it.
I do hope she names Dumgold under oath.

Cassie of Sydney
December 14, 2023 4:41 pm

“Yet more evidence that the MSM is a law unto themselves, they see themselves as being above the law others are subject to.”

Yep, and that is the nub of the issue. It began with Pell.

A few months ago it was C.L. who accurately observed that the more the MSM slides into irrelevance, the more dangerous they become. He was speaking about “their ABC” but it also applies to Nine Media, Ten and Seven. For far too long people have just said “ignore them”. You can’t ignore far-left activist ‘journalists’ who are intent on using the media to destroy their ideological enemies. In Pell’s case it ended with him, an innocent man, spending over a year in prison all because of LIES and FABRICATIONS.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens with Alan Jones.

The media now are malicious, mendacious and malignant.

As for the Mosman Amphibian, I think her career is over. She now has zero credibility not that I have ever thought she ever had any credibility to begin with. Her whole raison d’etre behind the Higgins claims was to destroy a democratically elected PM and government that she, the malicious, malignant and mendacious millionairess from Mosman, didn’t like.

Dot
Dot
December 14, 2023 4:43 pm

I think the Cane Toad is claiming a feminist throw away line as a defence to her potential conspiracy to several torts and perhaps yes, even criminal acts.

She better tell the truth and leave no trace of lying whilst in the witness box.

That could be another, less remote doozie.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 14, 2023 4:45 pm

It’s damn hot up here

Just on the old ton at the Cafe. My birdies are all trying to keep cool in shady trees.

After three or four years of weirdly cool summers it’s almost a relief to be back to normal summer weather.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 14, 2023 4:45 pm

Jack and Jill went up the hill
To fetch a pail of water
Jill came down
With half a crown
SHE hadn’t gone for water.

Winston Smith
December 14, 2023 4:46 pm

Real Deal
Dec 14, 2023 4:11 PM
The facility I work in is large and well air conditioned. Except my office where the vents are pumping out warm air that appears to be around 35 degrees.
First world problem, I know, but when your wool rich trousers start to sweat. I wish I wore a short sleeve crimpolene drip dry safari suit today.

Would you like to borrow my Safari suit? I have several.

Actually I don’t and I feel my life has been enriched by the lack of a Safari Suit of any colour and size.

Dot
Dot
December 14, 2023 4:47 pm

The only potential saviour is what the “legal advice” was.

More potential witnesses! Surely the Ch 10 lawyers need to be cross examined over this!

Poor Judge Lee won’t see his friends and family until Australia Day at this rate.

Bye bye Christmas.

JMH
JMH
December 14, 2023 4:48 pm

Re. lipreader and lippy translator being flown out from the UK at 10’s expense. If memory serves, earlier in proceedings, I believe His Honour said words to the effect; we will hear evidence of lipreader but it won’t carry much significance with regard to my determination.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 14, 2023 4:48 pm

Israel is flushing Hamas out of Gaza

From targeted strikes to flooding terrorist tunnels, the IDF is beginning to break Hamas. But there is still much fighting to go

Richard Kemp

I was inside the Gaza Strip yesterday and witnessed two terrorist tunnels being destroyed with explosives by IDF engineers in Shejaiya.

In the same area of Gaza City a short time later, the IDF suffered one of its deadliest single skirmishes since the ground offensive began, with nine soldiers of the Golani Brigade killed in a gun and explosives battle with terrorists.

Heavy fighting continues in the north and south of Gaza, both above ground and in Hamas’s extensive tunnel network, which – to give you a sense of scale – is assessed to be even more extensive than the London Underground’s 250 miles.

The tunnels bring yet another incredibly formidable dimension to urban combat, which is itself among the most challenging of battle environments, characterised by particularly high casualty rates, especially among attacking forces.

I’ve been into those tunnels: they are heavily fortified, concrete lined and with lighting, electric power and air supply.

Over two decades they have been constructed using vast sums of money, including international aid that should have been spent on civilian infrastructure, and costing the lives of many Gazans including dozens of children sent underground to work on them.

Tunnel entrances are mostly inside civilian houses, schools, hospitals and mosques.

Terrorists use them to store weapons and ammo, protect commanders and move fighters around to outmanoeuvre forces above ground.

Some have been fitted with heavy blast doors to isolate sections within an interconnected network and complicate assaults by Israeli troops.

The Israelis have been mapping them for years, using aerial and satellite sensors including visual imagery and sonar, and have developed new techniques for identifying their path from ground level.

Despite all that, the IDF still has a far from complete picture, and Hamas have ambushed troops by emerging from the rear in areas that had already been cleared.

I was shown a tunnel opening beneath a house in Shejaiya, from which a terrorist emerged to attack IDF troops with an RPG rocket a couple of days earlier.

Sometimes Hamas’s tunnel operations can be disrupted by collapsing them and blocking entrances and exits.

That can be done from the air, by explosives on the ground and using sponge bombs that produce a rapidly expanding chemical reaction that forms a rock hard wall.

The IDF has also been experimenting with flooding some of the tunnels using sea water to flush the terrorists out.

It is a technique pioneered in 2015 by Egypt against Hamas tunnels on their border, but its effectiveness in this situation is not yet fully understood and it’s likely to be a lengthy process.

Flooding isn’t without challenges, not least the likelihood that many Israeli hostages are being held captive underground.

Only a few days ago IDF soldiers recovered the bodies of two of Hamas’s hostages from a tunnel in Gaza City.

Whenever possible, the IDF avoid going into the tunnels and getting bogged down in fighting on Hamas’s terms.

Tunnel fighting is hugely dangerous, as American and Australian “tunnel rats” found to their cost in the Vietnam War.

Like the Viet Cong, Hamas have booby-trapped many of their tunnels, rigged them with remotely detonated explosives and prepared concealed sniper positions to kill advancing IDF troops.

Despite those hazards the Israelis are entering some of the tunnels when necessary, including to rescue hostages, gain intelligence from underground command posts and target high-level terrorist leaders.

They use specially trained soldiers, dogs, robots and a range of purpose-designed weapons and surveillance equipment.

The IDF’s inexorable advance through Gaza both above and below ground has seen rocket launches into Israel dramatically reduced as terrorist freedom of action is choked off.

That said, when I was in Shejaiya a volley was launched from further south, but it was knocked down by Israel’s Iron Dome before it could leave the sky over Gaza.

The terrorist command structure, too, is beginning to break down as senior leaders are killed, though the head of Hamas, Yahya Sinwar, and his henchmen probably remain underground somewhere in the south, no doubt with an eventual exit planned through tunnels beneath the border with Egypt.

An increasing number of terrorists have been surrendering, which is an encouraging sign of plunging morale.

But there is still a lot of hard fighting ahead and Israel’s allies should be working to do what they can to further demoralise Hamas.

Joe Biden’s false accusation against Israel yesterday of indiscriminate bombing, as well as hints that America’s support is beginning to wane, will have exactly the opposite effect.

Colonel Richard Kemp is a former British Army officer

Zatara
Zatara
December 14, 2023 4:48 pm

Banned on the Run: Hamas Leaders Flee Qatar

Hamas leaders who had lived in luxurious exile in Qatar have left for unknown destinations as of Tuesday and have switched off their phones, according to the Israeli Kan channel’s Arabic news service, Makan.

The Jerusalem Post added: “Additionally, on Tuesday, KAN news reported that Saleh al-Arouri, a senior member of Hamas, left his usual residence in Beirut for Turkey.”

Somehow I doubt they will be showing up in Gaza.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 14, 2023 4:49 pm

Dot at 4:43

I think the Cane Toad is claiming a feminist throw away line as a defence to her potential conspiracy to several torts and perhaps yes, even criminal acts.

The “ metoo” vibe was strong this morning. I doubt it will play well.

Dot
Dot
December 14, 2023 4:52 pm

Yes Bear. Per what Winston said; she’s claiming her acts didn’t matter because the cops are so anti rape victim with their wrong police stations etc.

Winston Smith
December 14, 2023 4:53 pm

Gilas:

Compare and contrast this with ALL other witnesses in this trainwreck.
Yet more evidence that the MSM is a law unto themselves, they see themselves as being above the law others are subject to.

It’s obvious the media are confident that they can destroy people they don’t like with no repercussion at all.
A secondary positive to this appalling example of being Above the Law will be the smacking down that the media is in line for.
It is about time they were forced to apply the concepts of professionalism they demand of others, but continue to fail to apply to themselves.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 14, 2023 4:54 pm

the entire Western ship of state appears to be heading towards unseen shoals

Quite – ,it is rapidly decaying, morally, socially and economically. The empire is declining, the baton is being passed, it would be a mistake to think that the next 50 years will look like the last.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 14, 2023 4:55 pm

The Jerusalem Post added: “Additionally, on Tuesday, KAN news reported that Saleh al-Arouri, a senior member of Hamas, left his usual residence in Beirut for Turkey.”

Flee, you mighty warriors of Allah! Run for your worthless lives, before the Israeli commando’s come knocking on your door!

(For some reason, I’m reminded of the Israeli strike into Beirut, where the commandos were disguised as hippies, and the leader wore falsies, and a Dolly Parton wig.)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 14, 2023 4:56 pm

Banned on the Run: Hamas Leaders Flee Qatar

You’d reckon China or North Korea.
About the only places Mossad couldn’t get to them.
Is chop suey halal? I’m asking for not friend.

JC
JC
December 14, 2023 5:00 pm

Duk

You need to keep in mind that these determinations are all relative. In other words who is doing relatively better or worse.

Take the developed and semi developed world at present. Everyone, every country has economic issues. Outside of the US, growth is moribund. What is more accurate, is to suggest that the world looks like shit at the moment, at least economically.

Vicki
Vicki
December 14, 2023 5:01 pm

The media now are malicious, mendacious and malignant.

And, with some exceptions – the other “m” – “mediocre”.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 14, 2023 5:02 pm

An unusual Aussie sign has gone viral after it was shared online

A picture of a West Australian road sign has gone viral after drivers were told their “GPS is wrong”.

Quairading Shire president Jo Haythornthwaite has explained the road in question — Old Beverley Road — is commonly suggested by Google and GPS when travellers want to drive to Perth, but in reality it is “very unsafe”.

“What Google does not recognise is that their suggestion of taking the Old Beverley Road leads travellers and tourists onto a low lying road that has 15kms of gravel, is very slippery when wet and is prone to flooding,” she said.

“Unfortunately, the traveller is unaware of this and often our local farmers are often called upon to assist travellers who have run off the road or have encountered problems when travelling along the road.”

The Quairading Shire has requested Google to change its algorithm to recognise the slightly longer but far safer alternative route for a long time, but after several failed attempts the signs were erected to provide a clear and concise message to travellers.

“In the fairly short amount of time that the signs have been up, it has been noticed that there is less traffic along the Old Beverley Road,” Ms Haythornthwaite said.

“So, without knowing specific numbers we believe that, although some continue to use the less safe route of the Old Beverley Road, many travellers are taking notice and following the signage,”

“This has been a pleasing result for the Shire in our attempts to keep our road users as safe as possible,” she highlighted.

Many Aussies have shared their own GPS fail stories from across Australia, with one woman going as far as putting up her own signage.

johanna
johanna
December 14, 2023 5:02 pm

Delegates (whatever that means) at the lates COPFest apparently leapt up from their sets and applauded this:

In comments she had expected to deliver before the agreement was finalised, Ms Rasmussen went on to say it had some positive elements, but included what she described as “a litany of loopholes”.

Illiterate, oh, well.

The Pacific islanders, who are utterly insiginifant in geopolitics, just found out about reality:

“The course correction that is needed has not been secured,” she said, and the deal could “potentially take us backward rather than forward”.

“We have made an incremental advancement over business as usual when what we really needed is an exponential step-change in our actions and support,” she said.

That wordsalad of jargon ought to be up for an award, of the negative kind.

BTW, reading back, it seems that many here enjoy being selectively spoonfed, and if it means taking traffic away from conservative sites – hey, it’s convenient.

If it takes up big chunks of space – it saves me from looking around and making decisions.

I do not resile for a second from my view that this person is an egotistical wanker who now takes up at leat 30% of the space here with his personal reading list.

Not only that, this jerk takes readers away from sites like Quadrant by posting full articles.

Many of his extrusions are freely available via a link and a summary. He deprives those sites of traffic, because he is the Master of News.

FOAD.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 14, 2023 5:03 pm

It’s damn hot up here, the cows have got to be brought in, Warner is still in, & Duk is being insulting

And the duk surveys his kingdom, glass in hand, at peace with his achievements…. 😉

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 14, 2023 5:05 pm

Australian population swells to nearly 27 million people in 2023

Australia’s population grew by a record 624,100 people in the past year, and one state was more popular than others for overseas arrivals.

Australia’s population surged to 26.6 million people in the year to the end of June, according to new data, with a population rise fuelled by a record influx in overseas immigration.

New data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) shows the country’s population grew by 2.4 per cent this year, welcoming a record 624,100 residents in the past 12 months.

While the annual natural increase was at 106,100 people, it was outstripped by a boom in net overseas migration, with more than 737,000 people arriving in the country.

NSW remained the most popular Australian destination for overseas migrants, with more than 174,000 people flocking to the state.

Victoria was next, with a net migration rate of 154,256 people, ahead of Queensland and South Australia.

Delta A
Delta A
December 14, 2023 5:06 pm

Can someone explain this to me

Sorry. Winnie, I’m as confused as you are. Sort of like pre-emptive punishment for might-be-ofenders?

As Wilks says: happens all the time.

johanna
johanna
December 14, 2023 5:07 pm

Comment criticising that dickhead Old Ozzie is in moderation.

Apparently, breaching copyright is far less serious.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 14, 2023 5:09 pm

Everyone, every country has economic issues. Outside of the US, growth is moribund. What is more accurate, is to suggest that the world looks like shit at the moment, at least economically.

correct, which is why the duk has his wealth stored in gold and BTC at present, not stocks or government money.

dopey
dopey
December 14, 2023 5:09 pm

Egypt and Jordan. You would think they have an interest in keeping their hot-heads in check. Would they sign on for another war like 67 or 73?Unlikely. Over the long term the average Mo might come around to the view that getting on with life looks like a better option than hating Jews for eternity.

Delta A
Delta A
December 14, 2023 5:12 pm

Calli, I hope you day passed as smoothly as possible, an honouring of your father’s life.

billie
December 14, 2023 5:13 pm

Gilas
It is clear, from Angus and Bunions’ testimonies so far, that they both see themselves as the equals of the barristers in a Federal Court.

Lots of journos are used to bullying people and changing words to get “effect”, and having power in that respect.

When they go up against professionals with words in the legal world, they are exposed as numpties.

They will of course be outraged at the outcome of all this, so used to destroying other people’s lives and reputations they possibly believe their “influence” and reputation (ooooh Logies!) puts them above mere mortals.

Didn’t Emma Aberici do similar when called out on economics, pointed out she was a 2 time Wankley Award nominee (from other journos) as if that would be an adequate defence of incompetance?

What huge egos they have.

I look forward to opening a fresh bottle of Shadenfreude very soon!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 14, 2023 5:13 pm

Watching H2O: Just Add Water with Teenage Grandkids

H2O: Just Add Water, also known as H2O, is an Australian fantasy children and teen drama TV show created by Jonathan M. Shiff. It first screened on Australia’s Network Ten and as of 2009 ran in syndication in over 120 countries with a worldwide audience of more than 250 million.[1][2] It was filmed on location at Sea World and other locations on the Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. The show revolves around three teenage girls facing everyday teen problems with an added twist: they become mermaids with unique, supernatural powers over water.

Eldest Grandson said he & his mates binge watched H2O: Just Add Water during Schoolies in Bryon and kept track of their drunk mates, as everyone had Tracking App (deleted when they got home)

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Gilas
Gilas
December 14, 2023 5:14 pm

Sancho Panzer
Dec 14, 2023 4:40 PM

Lee has already decided that the Logies speech was prejudicial

Technically it was prejudicial towards the criminal trial, not this one.

Yes! Lee was referring to Bunions’ extraordinary admission this morning, an admission given without the slightest hesitation.

While also being totally unrepentant of the fact that The Project demonstrated the clearest case of malevolent, clear bias against Brucie that one could ever imagine.

Just like Angus, she is the smartest person in the room. All hail and scrape before her!

What is it that comes after hubris?…

JC
JC
December 14, 2023 5:14 pm

Duk

My response had nothing to do with your personal investment strategies, but your views that the West (only) is going to shit.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 14, 2023 5:15 pm

The sandpaper twins are batting together.
Grit is your friend guys, grit.
2/168

JC
JC
December 14, 2023 5:18 pm
flyingduk
flyingduk
December 14, 2023 5:18 pm

https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/southwest-airlines-celebrated-policy-give-full-row-passengers-free

On the one hand, I am relieved the airline is allocating extra space to my portly travelling companions, on the other hand, I’ m irritated they aren’t paying for it, which means I am.

Alamak!
December 14, 2023 5:20 pm

Could she have an “öut” by presenting herself as just let down by the network?
Would that shield her at all?

What I’m not seeing, though perhaps documents and copies were requested by counsel in discovery, is any written evidence that Ten / Wilkinson had a process for vetting legal risks and that it was followed.

Wilkinsons evidence today seemed to all be phone calls with un-named “team members” for which she cannot remember dates or details. And a few bits where she threw the prodicer under a dozen or so buses

In particular, surely the question will be asked tomorrow – “Did you request legal signoff for the show and who/how/when was this provided?”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 14, 2023 5:20 pm

I think he pretends to be illiterate to diss people he dislikes, particularly if they are notably quite literate types.

Not nice, Elizabeth.

You sententious finger-wagging old headmistress, Delta A. You’ll take up any club to attack me with. Peas in a pod with Bespoke in that regard.

His pretence at illiteracy is simply that. It is not dyslexia. I’ve taught dyslexic students and they were nothing like Bespoke. His specious phonetic rewordings are a deliberate artifice which becomes highly exaggerated when he wants to make a point, and he has said as much. If he was dyslexic then he could use spell-checks for his phonemic mistakes. His word order, you should note as you are so informed on these matters, is never affected, as it is with true dyslexics.

Bespoke just gets a malign pleasure out of hounding certain people, especially me.

JMH
JMH
December 14, 2023 5:20 pm

I had to laugh during Toad’s testimony today. With all the “sorry, which page, Mr Richardson” well into cross-examination, this utter f/wit calls out something along the lines of Mr Richardson, the page only has 3 numbers. Richardson KC replies along the lines of ‘that’s the tab number. The page is 3— i.e 4 numbers which Toady had been dealing with for most of the morning’s hearings.

Channel 10 hires the best!

Tom
Tom
December 14, 2023 5:22 pm

The media now are malicious, mendacious and malignant.

People in the West with average IQs have worked it out: 90%+ of the so-called news media has no interest in informing the public, but in pushing propaganda “narratives” designed to instruct the public (who they despise) how to think.

90%+ of the news media has become a radical political movement that aims to destroy the foundation of our wealth and liberty, the free market.

90%+ of the news media are now university-educated revolutionaries.

Public opinion surveys show that confidence in the news media in the past 30 years has been destroyed because most journalists now consider it their role to tell people how to think, not to inform them.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 14, 2023 5:23 pm

In the Garden of Eden sat Adam
Complacently stroking his madam
And he thought with mirth
On the whole damned Earth
There were only two balls and HE had ’em.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 14, 2023 5:23 pm

If Bespoke is truly dyslexic and wishes to say so here, then of course he would be given consideration for that in any serious comments he wishes to make. However, I note that when he comments seriously he is literate enough. It is an affectation, for the Lord knows what purpose in his tiny emotional mind.

calli
calli
December 14, 2023 5:24 pm

Exhausting, Delta, emotionally and physically. Still processing, but it all went smoothly, not a hitch.

Highlight, teaching the grandson to pipe whipped cream onto mini pavlovas. He and his brother then decorated them – kept them busy. An excellent family gathering – dad would have been proud.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 14, 2023 5:24 pm

I’m with Andrew Bolt.

From the Comments

– bet Andrew Bolt is shaking in his boots by being threatened by Casanova Bowen

Poor old Bowen the Dill just opening himself up for more criticism

– Doesn’t like the truth.

– Truth hurts, Turtle Head?

– The snake aka Bowen strikes again but misses. Bowen’s homage to First NAtions people in Dubai was virtue signalling, crass and stupid

Does this fool Bowen actually believe that “thinking” Australians agree with his verbal diarrhoea?

A dickhead of the highest order!!!

– What a wanker Bowen is!!

– Well said! Albanese should sack Bowen but he’s also a foolish zealot.
Yes. They are primitive.
Like most Australians I usually ignore Chris Bowen!

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 14, 2023 5:24 pm

Duk

My response had nothing to do with your personal investment strategies, but your views that the West (only) is going to shit.

Slight strawman there…. the duk believes the west is going to shit, the rest of the world is already shit.

Alamak!
December 14, 2023 5:26 pm

What is it that comes after hubris?…

Falls follows feelz.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 14, 2023 5:26 pm

Gabor

Dec 14, 2023 8:18 AM

I think it’s an affectation he can spell when he wants to, he nearly admitted such.

No and no.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 14, 2023 5:29 pm

While the annual natural increase was at 106,100 people

Hang on I was under the impression without migration we were withering away due to low birthrates?

Never had more people in higher education, never had such big shortages in critical occupations…
Must be anything other than the education systems failure.

Jorge
Jorge
December 14, 2023 5:32 pm

One of the enjoyable aspects of Mr Richardson’s manner is the gentleness of his tone when putting the slam dunk in the basket. We don’t see him so his voice comes out of nowhere like Hal’s. His interrogation is mild in manner and when his respondents’ voices take on a hard edge as they do when they get defensive they lose all sympathy.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 14, 2023 5:33 pm

For those wanting some premature schadenfreude

Phillip Adams
@PhillipAdams_1
38 at Farm and no power for hours. A harbinger of outages to come. Brain melting. Phone batter flatlining. We who are about to die salute you.

There is only one response to that tweet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZscBf10Y5A

WolfmanOz
December 14, 2023 5:34 pm

calli
Dec 14, 2023 5:24 PM

Lovely to hear.

JC
JC
December 14, 2023 5:34 pm

Ladies , please.

JMH
JMH
December 14, 2023 5:35 pm

As I understand, Toady is still under contract with 10. One would hope the Legals are exploring every avenue to break that contract. Remember, she’s going after 10 for $700,000 odd to cover her legal bills in this Hearing outside the 10 tent.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 14, 2023 5:36 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Dec 14, 2023 5:23 PM
If Bespoke is truly dyslexic and wishes to say so here, then of course he would be given consideration for that in any serious comments he wishes to make. However, I note that when he comments seriously he is literate enough. It is an affectation, for the Lord knows what purpose in his tiny emotional mind.

Seriously Elizabeth.

I could say the same about you just by replacing “dyslexic” with neurotic or scitsafranic.
But I won’t since I’m a gentleman.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 14, 2023 5:37 pm

On more important matters than reflexive finger-pointing at me for egregious uncharitability and no doubt appalling agnosticism, everyone should do all of their washing, clothes drying, dishwashing, air-conditioning, oven-cooking and pool cleaning between 5-9 tonight. It would give some voters a taste of what electricity rationing is going to be like as the system goes down under stress unless they vote out Labor, or at least get that smarmy zealot Bowen given the shove.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 14, 2023 5:38 pm

For those wanting some premature schadenfreude

Too hot for a schadenboner?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 14, 2023 5:43 pm

she’s going after 10 for $700,000 odd to cover her legal bills

And that’s only her bills prior to the current proceedings.

Then once the defamation matter is sorted, then there’ll be the costs for her action against CH10.

Pirate will be squirreling away all assets in his name so she can’t cash ’em in to help her.

“tis beautiful.

calli
calli
December 14, 2023 5:46 pm

I have the air going full bore. It has been an absolute stinker up here today.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 14, 2023 5:46 pm

I could say the same about you just by replacing “dyslexic” with neurotic or scitsafranic.
But I won’t since I’m a gentleman.

Type ‘scitsafranic’ into Google and the correct spelling of a psychiatric condition that I by no means exhibit immediately emerges. You do not need to exhibit this phonemic silliness. I’m not neurotic either. Delta A though believes you are dyslexic. I don’t.

You may or may not be a gentleman but you are certainly not one towards me.

Now go and do something useful like turning on all of your electric appliances and leave me alone.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 14, 2023 5:48 pm

Pirate will be squirreling away all assets in his name so she can’t cash ’em in to help her.

I expect that is already carefully done. Even on the supposed numbers Mrs Pirate was on I expect you are looking at a year or more earnings at risk. Real money.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 14, 2023 5:52 pm

Phillip Adams
@PhillipAdams_1
38 at Farm and no power for hours.

You do understand that people did survive such temperatures without electricity, or air conditioning?

calli
calli
December 14, 2023 5:54 pm

38 at Farm and no power for hours.

*sob*

Can’t afford a battery?

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 14, 2023 5:56 pm

Delta A
Dec 14, 2023 3:30 PM

The severity of dyslexia does seem to fluctuate, depending on a variety of factors.

Yep and iv said it before I’m way more frustrated about it then enyone.

calli
calli
December 14, 2023 5:56 pm

On that “cheap tabloid journalist” whine.

Isn’t 10 running a “truth” defence? I can’t see a problem.

JMH
JMH
December 14, 2023 5:57 pm

H B Bear
Dec 14, 2023 5:48 PM
Pirate will be squirreling away all assets in his name so she can’t cash ’em in to help her.

I expect that is already carefully done. Even on the supposed numbers Mrs Pirate was on I expect you are looking at a year or more earnings at risk. Real money.

Have they managed to produce progeny? If “yes” then there’s your answer re hiding assets.

Delta A
Delta A
December 14, 2023 5:57 pm

You sententious finger-wagging old headmistress, Delta A. You’ll take up any club to attack me with.

Not so, Elizabeth. I do not attack you.

On the contrary, I have often acknowledged an excellent post which you have written, or agreed with a statement which you have made. But I will call out patronising, potentially hurtful comments like:

I think he pretends to be illiterate to diss people he dislikes, particularly if they are notably quite literate types.

BTW, I have also taught students with dyslexia, including my own 15 yo granddaughter and I have learned much from them. Oh, and I never quite made ‘headmistress’, (sigh,) although I was ‘head teacher’ for a time and ‘manager’ when the organisation changed internal structure.

As for sententious’ and ‘finger wagging’: that sounds like a ‘club to attack me with’. 🙂 Joking, of course. I’m not interested in a cat fight.

BTW, upon reflection, I doubt that bespoke would be hurt by any patronising comments. All things considered, he seems to be rocking along pretty well.

Aaron
Aaron
December 14, 2023 5:58 pm

The Paki/Aussie opener Hamaschurian Candidate 2023: “All lives matter”.

BLM warrior circa 2021: “Racist”.

Vicki
Vicki
December 14, 2023 5:59 pm

And the duk surveys his kingdom, glass in hand, at peace with his achievements…. ?

Smiles all round.

Muddy
Muddy
December 14, 2023 6:00 pm

Winston Smith
Dec 14, 2023 4:11 PM

Agreed.
I’ve mentioned in passing (without detail, as is my habit) that I wonder if a new version of feudalism might, in certain circumstances (especially access to affordable energy) be in the offing. Also that morally, the species itself seems to be devolving.

On a personal level, I’ve never felt this disconnected and bitter. Certainly I’ve felt cynical previously, but not the seething rage initiated by the covidiocy. In a different time period, perhaps I’d leap that dividing line and become an outlaw (with delusions of local warlord status), but now …

I often find that I cannot locate the words that match my state of mind anymore.

Vicki
Vicki
December 14, 2023 6:00 pm

Pirate will be squirreling away all assets in his name so she can’t cash ’em in to help her.

Hard to hide a mansion in Mosman.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 14, 2023 6:02 pm

38 at Farm and no power for hours. A harbinger of outages to come. Brain melting. Phone batter flatlining. We who are about to die salute you.

Phillip Adams suffering for his climate sins?
Say it ain’t so!

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 14, 2023 6:03 pm

Lizzie, don’t be hard on Bespoke, in the early days he hammered away very valiantly at left-wing trolling. I suspect some of his hounding now is simply reliving those glory days and I say just give him space, he’s earned it, walk around it.

Tom
Tom
December 14, 2023 6:04 pm

It’s deeply ironic that actor Henry Szeps’s son Joseph has been red-pilled by the left’s sudden hatred of Jews when Jews like Szeps junior and senior have for decades been performing arts celebrities.

Suddenly, the Western left’s latest useful idiots are the Arab terrorists of Hamas, because lefties now embrace anyone opposed to Western freedom and culture and killing Jews apparently makes you cool.

My late mum was a fan of Henry Szeps. I’m glad something good has come of his life (via his son) when most of his colleagues are now supporters of terrorism.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 14, 2023 6:04 pm

Can’t afford a battery?

Or a generator set?

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 14, 2023 6:05 pm

You may or may not be a gentleman but you are certainly not one towards me.

Unlike you.
Iv never been crude.
Never criticised you things you can’t change.
Or aquesd you of enything illegal.

Now go and do something useful like turning on all of your electric appliances and leave me alone.

Sigh! Every time you start something you end up telling me to stay in my lane or some derivative.

Vicki
Vicki
December 14, 2023 6:07 pm

On a personal level, I’ve never felt this disconnected and bitter. Certainly I’ve felt cynical previously, but not the seething rage initiated by the covidiocy. In a different time period, perhaps I’d leap that dividing line and become an outlaw (with delusions of local warlord status), but now …

I often find that I cannot locate the words that match my state of mind anymore.

Gosh, Muddy, that is not only very moving, it accurately reflects a state of mind of many of us. The Covid years reminded us complacent Boomers that government (& their allies) still controls our lives. It is silly – but that was quite confronting. And I agree, that our generation has moved on from the daring of our youth.

There are so many challenges both domestically and internationally. No matter what our circumstances, it is quite a shock.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 14, 2023 6:07 pm

accused.

Delta A
Delta A
December 14, 2023 6:08 pm

Yep and iv said it before I’m way more frustrated about it then enyone.

You don’t need to say anything further, bespoke. I think the subject is now closed.

Roger
Roger
December 14, 2023 6:10 pm

Can’t afford a battery?

Or a generator set?

Phil’s a true believer.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 14, 2023 6:10 pm

Imagine not having a backyup generator on a farm.

Or the holy of holies, renew-balls and a powerwall installed.

I hope his asshole vulcanises shut.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 14, 2023 6:10 pm

1 hour ago
Key points from the day’s evidence
Joanna Panagopoulos
Joanna Panagopoulos

• Lisa Wilkinson rejected the suggestion that her “pride and ego” were put ahead of Bruce Lehrmann’s right to a fair trial when she made a Logies speech in mid-June 2022, eight days before the start of his rape trial, praising Brittany Higgins’ “unwavering courage”. After much questioning she agreed that the implication of her speech was that it was a “true allegation of rape against a guilty man”;

• Ms Wilkinson said she thought there was a “credibility issue” with the fact Ms Higgins no longer had crucial messages because her phone died but still had an image of a bruise she claimed was caused by the alleged rape, and “escalated” it up the chain of command at Network Ten;

• Ms Wilkinson denied she was “not objective” when it came to Senator Linda Reynolds and the allegations Ms Higgins’ made about her former boss, when asked about the comment she made in a five-hour pre-interview with Ms Higgins: “I’ve so got her (Senator Reynolds) in my sights”;

• Ms Wilkinson said she thought Senator Reynolds and her chief of staff Fiona Brown were part of a “systemic cover up” of Ms Higgins’ rape allegations’;

• Ms Wilkinson denied The Project episode conveyed Ms Brown as a “vile apparatchik” and a “monster”. The episode included comments about her being “caring” and that she gave Ms Higgins the “rest of the day off” after they spoke;

• Ms Wilkinson said the allegation in The Project episode, which is the subject of defamation proceedings, that Ms Higgins was “forced to choose between her career and the pursuit of justice” was about Ms Higgins putting “pressure … on herself”;

• Ms Wilkinson has rejected suggestions she “coached” Ms Higgins to answer certain questions in an off-the-record chat where she said: “I don’t want to put words in your mouth but if you can enunciate the fact that this place is all about suppression of people’s natural sense of justice”.

Beertruk
December 14, 2023 6:10 pm

The Mocker at the Paywallion:

Buckle up: The Mocker’s predictions for 2024

Australia gets a new PM, the Solomon Islands get a top-notch new Chinese military base, and the STC debuts its brave new production ‘From the River to the Sea’.

By THE MOCKER
14 Dec 2023

January: Defence Minister Richard Marles announces that the government has provided the Royal Australian Navy with the necessary equipment to protect its personnel from sonar attacks by People’s Liberation Army Navy vessels.
“We will thwart our adversary by using his own technology against him,” says Marles. “I cannot wait to see their faces when they discover our divers have been issued with Chinese-made noise cancelling headphones.”

February: As the High Court adjourns to consider the lawfulness of federal legislation regarding the monitoring of violent unlawful non-citizens, Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil angrily denies the government has once again failed to prepare for an adverse decision.
“On the contrary,” she says, “I will immediately instruct our lawyers to appeal to the Privy Council should we lose.”

March: Clare O’Neil concedes she has no contingency plan following the court’s decision against the Commonwealth but says the previous government is entirely to blame. “At no time during the
handover in 2022 did Opposition Leader Peter Dutton inform me that it is no longer possible to appeal a High Court decision,” she says.
Meanwhile other ministers insist every member of the Albanese government is hardworking and focusing solely on matters affecting everyday Australians. “It is not as if we’ve been assigned to pointless niche issues,” says Assistant Minister for the Republic Matt Thistlethwaite.

April: In response to a Newspoll revealing Labor faces a net loss of 30 seats at the next election, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese appeals to the public for a second chance.
“We’ve made mistakes, but so do all first-term governments,” he says. “And it’s not like any of us has the advantage of prior ministerial experience, apart from Tanya Plibersek, Penny Wong, Richard Marles, Bill Shorten, Jason Clare, Katy Gallagher, Tony Burke, Don Farrell, Mark Butler, Chris Bowen, Catherine King, Mark Dreyfus, Brendan O’Connor, Julie Collins, Justine Elliot, Malarndirri McCarthy, and me.”

May: Communications Minister Michelle Rowland says Labor will safeguard the integrity of the draft Combating Misinformation and Disinformation Bill by appointing a panel of three independent fact commissioners to oversee the Australian Communications and Media Authority.
“I am delighted to announce those positions will be filled by Professor Tim Flannery, Professor Bruce Pascoe, and Dr Norman Swan,” says Rowland.

June: Alumni of the International Union of Socialist Youth convene for a three-day conference in a luxury Lausanne resort, on the shores of Lake Geneva, Switzerland.
“We must remain true to ourselves if we are to realise worldwide social justice in our lifetime,” says keynote speaker and former IUSY president Dame Jacinda Ardern.

July: The Sydney Theatre Company announces that there will be no repeat of actors using curtain calls to show solidarity with Palestinians.
“I want to assure all patrons, donors and theatre goers, particular those in the Jewish community, that our revised code of conduct forbids appropriating the stage for one’s political agenda,” says a spokeswoman. “We do not want anything to mar the opening night of our new production ‘From the River to the Sea’.”

August: Following a heated press conference over the increase in the number of asylum-seekers landing in Australia by boat, government frontbenchers Penny Wong, Tanya Plibersek, and Katy Gallagher deny it was sexist of Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus to yell at a female journalist: “You will cease making hysterical accusations and hold your tongue when spoken to by the First Law Officer, you incorrigible shrew”.

September: In a surprise move, Peter Dutton promises the Opposition will, if elected, reduce household energy prices by at least 50 per cent within three months of assuming government.
“The way this works is straightforward and effective,” he says. “The Coalition will retain Chris Bowen as Energy Minister. Only this time his brief will be to increase power prices as much as possible. Need I say more?”

Cartoon by Johannes Leak.

October: Banks report the rate of mortgage foreclosures is at its highest since 1990. Prime Minister Manasseh Sogavare says his decision to allow for a Chinese military base in the Solomon Islands will “bring peace and prosperity to the Pacific”. A survey of Jewish-Australians reveals over 75 per cent no longer feel safe in their own homes due to rising antisemitism.
In response, Anthony Albanese reiterates that his government is firmly committed to a 43 per cent reduction in C02 emissions by 2030 and says he will fly to Reykjavik, Iceland to inspect Langjökull Glacier.

November: Treasurer Jim Chalmers announces he will double his efforts over the summer break to bring mortgage relief to homeowners, following the Reserve Bank’s decision to raise the cash rate to 5.35 per cent.
“My 12,000-word essay will critically re-examine the concept of capitalism as an economic panacea,” he says, adding his latest inspiration is a quote from the ancient Greek philosopher Democritus: ‘Happiness resides not in possessions, and not in gold, but dwells in the soul’.

December: “That’s it from us at the Lodge”, says a smiling and relaxed prime minister. “Chloe and I wish all Australians a merry Christmas and a happy new year.”

Merry Christmas! Picture: Alex Coppel.

Likewise, everyone. See you next year.

THE MOCKER

Johnny Rotten
December 14, 2023 6:11 pm

Alamak!
Dec 14, 2023 5:26 PM
What is it that comes after hubris?…

If someone displayed Hubris, i.e. an over-weaning pride and arrogance, then they were asking to excite the jealousy and wrath of the Gods and come a cropper. The ire of the Gods would be visited in the form of Nemesis, “retribution” with the miscreant brought low and humbled.

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+comes+after+hubris+in+the+dictionary&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBAU906AU906&oq=what+comes+after+hubris+in+the+dictionary&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigAdIBCTIyNDMyajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 14, 2023 6:12 pm

Where precisely are the timeless safe-keepers of the land when it comes to renewables knocking down the bush?
Not a word about multinationals destroying sacred grounds or interrupting song lines.
Dirty deals not done dirt cheap.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 14, 2023 6:13 pm

Proles you have to make the ultimate sacrifices for the Party.

‘Admission of failure’: Minns Labor government criticised over decree to NSW residents to reduce energy use amid severe heatwave warning affecting the state (Sky News, 14 Dec)

The Minns Labor government has been blasted for urging residents to cut the use of air conditioning and other “non-essential” electricity to combat the state’s decreased energy capacity amid a severe heatwave.

How dare you use cheap Chinese air conditioners to cool yourselves? The Planet is at stake! Stew, peasants, we your superiors are looking after you.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 14, 2023 6:13 pm

BTW, upon reflection, I doubt that bespoke would be hurt by any patronising comments. All things considered, he seems to be rocking along pretty well.

That I am, Delta.

Life is good.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 14, 2023 6:16 pm

Have they managed to produce progeny? If “yes” then there’s your answer re hiding assets.

A couple of discretionary trusts and super funds would do the job. Would be interesting to know what arrangements Crysthanthou’s instructing solicitors have in place. They’re the ones with the real exposure.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
December 14, 2023 6:22 pm

The only potential saviour is what the “legal advice” was.

I think it’s clear that the line of attack will be that without a written indemnity, any advice they present will be worthless. They won’t have that. Lee made it clear that he couldn’t take it seriously that anyone would have proffered advice that excused the conduct at the speech.

I would expect that 10 are trying to settle now.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 14, 2023 6:22 pm

calli

Dec 14, 2023 5:56 PM

On that “cheap tabloid journalist” whine.

Isn’t 10 running a “truth” defence? I can’t see a problem.

As I understand it, Ten is running the truth defence, but Toad is running a “good faith” defence.
I think both are in trouble.

JC
JC
December 14, 2023 6:22 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Dec 14, 2023 6:03 PM

Lizzie, don’t be hard on Bespoke, in the early days he hammered away very valiantly at left-wing trolling. I suspect some of his hounding now is simply reliving those glory days and I say just give him space, he’s earned it, walk around it.

Little Miss Smarty Pants getting in the middle again
Go do something useful like mold cleaning, dickhead. No one needs your advice much less how to contest arguments, even less how to run a blog. Bullshit artist.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 14, 2023 6:23 pm

MEET THE NEW SEGREGATION, SAME AS THE OLD SEGREGATION: Boston mayor under fire for ‘no whites’ Christmas party for city’s ‘Electeds of Color’.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 14, 2023 6:24 pm

Thanks for all the court updates.
Yesterday one could watch the replay of the court up to a couple hours post the hearing
I scrolled back to a few parts.
Today, not the case.
At 4:15 it all died.

Delta A
Delta A
December 14, 2023 6:25 pm

That I am, Delta.

Life is good.

Good to hear.

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 14, 2023 6:26 pm

hzhousewife
Dec 14, 2023 3:40 PM

The point was that Brown’s offer and behaviour to Britts to go with her to the AFP office was downgraded by Ms Wilkinson because she wasn’t HR.

HR is not all it’s cracked up to be. Mostly they tick boxes, which was the very thing that Britnee was complaining out – and then not complaining about – when evaluating Brown’s assistance to her, according to the evidence of both her and Wilkinson.

JC
JC
December 14, 2023 6:28 pm

Sanchez

I haven’t been up to speed on the trial, however I read about Mrs. Red Bandana’s testimony today.

The busted phone and the miraculous appearance of the bruise pic appears to have placed both 10 and Mrs R.D in serious trouble.

The judge’s earlier question was also pretty instructive I think.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 14, 2023 6:30 pm

JC Dec 14, 2023 6:22 PM

Well, if it isn’t my broken, the blog’s most regular wrongologist, butting in to something he doesn’t understand.

Go & welch on a bet. Something you’re good at. You sad case.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 14, 2023 6:30 pm

If there was legal advice provided, big if, there would be no obligation for saint lisa to hand it over.
My guess, saint Lisa will have to walk back her comments ie she had a chat with a lawyer friend.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 14, 2023 6:32 pm

If saint Lisa insists there was legal advice provided there would be a corresponding invoice.

Delta A
Delta A
December 14, 2023 6:33 pm

The judge’s earlier question was also pretty instructive I think.

Moreso his final remarks.

Should be very interesting again tomorrow.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 14, 2023 6:37 pm

H B Bear

Dec 14, 2023 6:16 PM

Have they managed to produce progeny? If “yes” then there’s your answer re hiding assets.

A couple of discretionary trusts and super funds would do the job. Would be interesting to know what arrangements Crysthanthou’s instructing solicitors have in place. They’re the ones with the real exposure.

Might be a bit risky trying to create a structure after debts have been incurred to hide assets from a lawyer.
How long has her Ten contract got to run? Maybe they could garnished her wages, leaving her the equivalent of the OAP for living expenses.
Of course, there would be the indignity of being declared bankrupt as well.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 14, 2023 6:40 pm

We’ve been out most of the arvo visiting the Inner-West, where it was three degrees hotter there than right on the coast, incidentally trying out the new Rozelle interchange. It is all totally unrecognizable now from the days when Hairy and I were denizens of this area, a thriving hive then of the New Left of which we were part, scooting around in old cars attending parties of politicos and literati of the day. My eldest grandson now flats with others in Johnson Street in Annandale, but that was not where we were going as we sped on down it. Sic transit gloria mundi is all that cames to mind, for our old world has been demolished and unknown worlds arise for our descendant to discover, as Hairy and I now speed down the curve of life itself.

A hot day for a funeral, Calli. I am glad it went well. I spoke yesterday at lunch to my new friend whose husband died only three weeks ago and and whose funeral was just last week. Her musical grandsons played their instruments with classical pieces and a grand-daughter sang. A fitting legacy for a man who had been an exemplary father, she said. She knows, as I found out with my parents’ funerals, and my brother’s, that the tears are not yet all behind her, but she is bearing up well, even enjoying the luncheon conviviality.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
December 14, 2023 6:41 pm

I hope his asshole vulcanises shut.

I believe it already has, it’s the reason so much shit flows out of his mouth.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 14, 2023 6:42 pm

Historical facts and context to the Bible story?! Get out of here with that, the man has important Virtues to Signal, can’t you see?

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
December 14, 2023 6:43 pm

Sky: Murray Watt say that Peter Dutton has opposed every policy aimed at reducing “cost of living”.
This is getting repetitive and deceptive.
Peter Dutton isn’t the problem ideological policy making is the problem.

Dot
Dot
December 14, 2023 6:46 pm

Pinot Gris or Pinot Grigio?

Just grog now.

Hic!

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 14, 2023 6:47 pm

If Lisa has lied about the advice pre giving the speech, Lee will view that dimly.
If her fall back is the Drumgold conversation, hells bells.

calli
calli
December 14, 2023 6:48 pm

Some fun architecture in Johnston Street, Annandale.

Shame one of them was demolished.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 14, 2023 6:48 pm

Sancho – I would have thought everything would have been in place for years. Even ex ALPBC types aren’t averse to a bit of tax and risk structuring around production and royalty revenue issues.

JC
JC
December 14, 2023 6:49 pm

Go & welch on a bet. Something you’re good at. You sad case.

Anything you’ve ever said that’s honest? Provide the “citation”, dickhead.

The virtual pubbler..

His concern trolling is too much for anyone to handle.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
December 14, 2023 6:50 pm

Wilko taking umbrage as being compared to a tabloid hack is a huge tell. Everybody in newspaper land knows true tabloid hacks are gun journos who think about defamation and pushing the envelope at every moment – they don’t make indefensible mistakes. The fact that she takes umbrage means she thinks she’s an influencer ie. she had a headline that needed confirmation, no matter what.

Indolent
Indolent
December 14, 2023 6:50 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 14, 2023 6:52 pm

a meme for poor Philllllip the vulcanised ringpiece.

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