Open Thread – Fri 15 Dec 2023


The Luncheon, Claude Monet, 1873

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Winston Smith
December 15, 2023 2:47 pm

Calli:

calli
Dec 15, 2023 2:37 PM
Winston, it was a very poor pun about her destination.

…and it went right over my head. 🙂
I’m slowing down in my dotage.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2023 2:48 pm

I thought Toad almost did better than yesterday.
The brain seizure was a bad moment or 2 for her though.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2023 2:50 pm

Crash Craddock has named his best ever 10 Australian batsmen:

Don Bradman
Steve Smith
Allan Border
Ricky Ponting
Greg Chappell
Matthew Hayden
Steve Waugh
David Warner
Michael Clarke
Adam Gilchrist

I’d have Boon in there just for his Australia/England can record alone. Which takes away from his ability.
Mark Waugh was brilliant but got bored as all geniuses do.
Justin Langer had the toughness forged from a West Indies initiation 92/93 to fuse with ability opening with Hayden.
And that’s to see players like Hodge, Law, Siddons, Lehmann, who were predominantly state players.
I say this because Crash has put Warner at this lofty position. A flat track bully who is a prick.
And to say nothing of Ponsford or Trumper or I C Chappell. Bill Lawry. Arthur Morris.
Feel free to add your own.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 15, 2023 2:51 pm

IMO, Sir Les was Barry’s greatest creation — did all the stuff that Dame Edna dared not do.

Yes an old widow neighbour of ours when I was a kid saw him on Parkinson and thought it was real. Had a rant to my oldies about him. They pissed themselves. Didn’t tell her it was comedy.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 2:51 pm

Hurricane tracker here. No luck, I’m afraid.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2023 2:52 pm

Thats me out, videos from now on.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 15, 2023 2:54 pm

When does the Mario the Magnificent lip-reader make an appearance.

I’m tipping he will uncover the following statements…
1. Lehrmann: Albo is the smartest person I have ever met
2. Higgins: I have a tattoo of Lisa Wilkinson, would you like to see it?
3. Higgins: That Scomo is hot, I’d like to make his press release.

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2023 2:56 pm

And to say nothing of Ponsford or Trumper or I C Chappell. Bill Lawry. Arthur Morris.

Sid Barnes.

cohenite
December 15, 2023 2:56 pm

Black Ball
Dec 15, 2023 2:50 PM
Crash Craddock has named his best ever 10 Australian batsmen:

Don Bradman
Steve Smith
Allan Border
Ricky Ponting
Greg Chappell
Matthew Hayden
Steve Waugh
David Warner
Michael Clarke
Adam Gilchrist

Warner and clarke FFS. Keith Miller because he was so handsome; and Richie Benaud because no one could talk like him.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2023 2:58 pm

What an odd and angry little man you are, JC.
And what an odd and angry world you’ve created for yourself.
Perhaps it’s time for your monthly injection of Fluphenazine?

Those NDIS Anger Management classes just aren’t working except to make Junior Cockhead Cokehead even angrier. Oh dear.

johanna
johanna
December 15, 2023 2:59 pm

Top Ender
Dec 15, 2023 2:23 PM

Cassie: we live in a dangerously stupid country…

Yesterday heard of a friend’s work Christmas party this week. They had two supervisors appointed to monitor people’s behaviour, alcohol intake, and so on. And yes, they are all – supposedly – adults.

It’s changed in keeping with what our Betters deem to be socially acceptable.

In the early 1970s I had a short term job in the Pubes in Canberra. In my office, people went out on the piss at lunchtime, returned about 3 pm, made sure the place wasn’t exploding on return, and went off soon afterwards. Admittedly, it was the Department of the Capital Territory, back when the Commonwealth controlled everything.

There are a lot of phases of change that we could discuss.

The real question is – are the decisions being now made any better thanks to the cancellation of just about anyone who made decisions in the past, or in comparison to them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 15, 2023 3:01 pm

hzhousewife earlier …

Brittany:
We were all going into it with like, we were about to be jobless in like six weeks, whatever, enjoy
Canberra while we can. Like that was the entire mentality. Like, I wasn’t wedded to the Liberal Party,
I thought I would be there for six months

Hmmm.
The Toad says Britnah lurved the Libs.
I think she possibly had Lib connections through family, but drifted left during uni.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2023 3:01 pm

cohenite
Dec 15, 2023 2:56 PM
Black Ball
Dec 15, 2023 2:50 PM
Crash Craddock has named his best ever 10 Australian batsmen:

What about all those batsmen from say1860 up to say 1930. Don’t they get a look in?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 15, 2023 3:03 pm

Young Aussie couple reveal the three reasons why they regret buying their first home

. Couple say they regret buying first home
. They commute up to three hours a day

An Aussie couple have dished on their biggest regrets after buying their first house.

The couple wanted to ‘be real’ about the less glamorous side of investing in a property in the suburbs – including a three-hour commute to the city.

The new homeowners shared their experience with Two Broke Girls podcast hosts, who asked listeners to share their worst investments of 2023.

‘Buying a house was a bad investment. My partner and I couldn’t afford a house close to the city, so we bought way out in the suburbs,’ the woman explained.

‘I just had to start a second job due to the rising interest rates and needing to afford mortgage payments.

‘House maintenance is expensive… No more calling up your landlord; that’s your problem now.’

‘Getting into the city is expensive,’ she said.

‘The commute takes about two to three hours a day… Travel is not looking like a viable option.

Uber Eats options are terrible.

‘I know renting isn’t all sunshine and daisies either, but I just wanted to be real.’

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
December 15, 2023 3:03 pm

He did nothing to stop the 6th January protesters, from attending, despite the fact it was obviously a trap and an attempt by the Dem’s to show their power.

“This is a lie perpetuated by the far left US Democrats.”

Well then Dot, perhaps you could outline:

a.) what the “Grifter in Chief” did, to stop these lemmings getting themselves imprisoned, and

b.) what has he done, too support these fools, post facto, who are still languishing in prison, after following Trump’s directions.

I must have missed the “magnanimous” part.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2023 3:05 pm

Richie Benaud because no one could talk like him.

I well recall Paul Reiffel in the 97/98 series against UnZed. He was making excellent contributions down the order.
Two deliveries in a row, Benaud commentating:
Number one:
“Don’t think that’s a good idea…the slower ball turning into a full toss outside off stump… And it’s 6 for heaps”
Number two when Reiffel whips one through mid-wicket:
“That’s a very good stroke, from this number 3 batsman who’s found himself at number 8…”

Chortle

Vicki
Vicki
December 15, 2023 3:07 pm

Please take the undisciplined David Warner out, & add Mark Waugh & Bill Lawry & Neil Harvey.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2023 3:07 pm

Twas when Mark Waugh put one on the WACA stand in Vettoris second Test.

John
John
December 15, 2023 3:08 pm

Missed a lot this morning. Does that mean they are finished with Lisa?

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 15, 2023 3:08 pm

Crash Craddock has named his best ever 10 Australian batsmen:

Don Bradman
Steve Smith
Allan Border
Ricky Ponting
Greg Chappell
Matthew Hayden
Steve Waugh
David Warner
Michael Clarke
Adam Gilchrist

Just had a look in the records. Neil Harvey can have Warner’s place. WArner no 100s in England or India. Averaged 26 and 21.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2023 3:09 pm

once you put a foot wrong, your blockquotes are doomed

Bellbirds by Kendall erases all WordPress crimes.

I lived for a while in the village named for him, and yes we’d be sung at by bellbirds in the gully opposite our house. A tribe of them also live in a cool bit of forest about a km from the Cafe, it’s nice to walk the trail that goes through their patch.

Gilas
Gilas
December 15, 2023 3:10 pm

Despite being given a 90+ minutes lunch-break to explain herself, Bunions immediately proceeded to lie about what she regarded as Reynold’s lie during “Questions without notice” session in Parliament on the day of The Project broadcast.

She picked on Reynold’s denial that she knew that Hoggins’ assault was of a sexual nature, that had she known, she wouldn’t have met her in her office.
Toad claimed this as if she knew it at the time, then contradicted this, giving details that post-dated the PH sitting by months/years.

Lee intervened. One question. Shot Bunions down in flames in less than 2 minutes.
He then proceeded to further questioning, but that was objected to by Chrysanthou. So he withdrew, then stopping Toad from explaining herself further.

Hard to ignore what this says about Lee’s opinion about Bunions and the quality of her testimony.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 15, 2023 3:14 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 15, 2023 3:15 pm

I would happily be an angel of vengeance upon those who intentionally mistreat their pets.

Yes. We’ve had to accept financial responsibility for my second son’s shared dog, an amiable and bouncy young Staffy-Labrador cross (can’t see much Labrador there, says my very doggy friend looking at the photos on my phone). We wouldn’t let an animal in our ambit go hungry or without veterinary attention, so it’s hard to comprehend the terrible neglect by feral owners I saw at the dog rescue where I was a volunteer driver a few years ago. I pay a weekly visit to this particular son when he has the dog, and the dog knows a bag of meat offcuts is coming. Good dog, I tell him, for he is. He’s been a life-saver for this son, keeping him on an even keel when he is feeling down, which is often.

Similarly, I can never feel down myself when I can scoop up a patiently uncomplaining Attapuss and nuzzle a kiss into his cat-sweet tummy. Like Bruce of the Cafe, I also find that our visiting wild birds also provide calming delight. They enjoy a silent chat. Not all would agree, but in my view a life without pets or other animal contact is missing out on some truly blissful moments.

Vicki
Vicki
December 15, 2023 3:16 pm

‘The commute takes about two to three hours a day… Travel is not looking like a viable option. Uber Eats options are terrible.

Are they for real? The commute is obviously 2 way – so that time is about standard (& always has been) for outer suburbs. And no money for travel of Uber Eats? We have NEVER (or ever will) have Uber Eats – what is so hard about stir fry cooking or a baked dinner?

And travel? That is a luxury, not an essential. It is an option after you manage to meet your living expenses.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 3:19 pm

I can’t believe they haven’t settled yet.

Justice Michael Lee asked Ms Wilkinson what made her form the view that Senator Reynolds was “lying through her teeth”. She responded that she could not say what she was specifically viewing when she made those comments.

Lee appears to be finding her testimony total bullshit.

Damon
Damon
December 15, 2023 3:20 pm

Lizzie, I’ve done a lot of long-hauls in and out of OZ. I’ve never flown QANTAS if I could avoid it. my last flight was back from Vic, when I was stuck with my knees around my ears for the entire flight. Never again.

Winston Smith
December 15, 2023 3:21 pm

Old Ozzie:

Uber Eats options are terrible.

‘I know renting isn’t all sunshine and daisies either, but I just wanted to be real.’

Jayzus, Mary, and everyone else. What on earth are their priorities?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 15, 2023 3:22 pm

. They commute up to three hours a day

Finding a job, closer to home, not an option?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2023 3:23 pm

Feel free to add your own.

Wot no Walters or Hussey? Two ridiculously good batsmen. I like Warner’s style in a ne’er-do-well sort of way, and he plays like Gilchrist. He doesn’t give a shit. Which is admirable. But he’s nowhere up to Dougie or Mr Cricket’s level.

Winston Smith
December 15, 2023 3:25 pm

Bespoke:

CNN Reports That Israel Is Using Unguided ‘Dumb Bombs’ in Gaza

Of course. There’s no smart people left on Hamas’s side. Using smart bombs would only take out the Israeli soldiers.

For Gods Sake, where do they get these journos from?

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 15, 2023 3:26 pm

Black Ball
Dec 15, 2023 2:50 PM
Crash Craddock has named his best ever 10 Australian batsmen:

Don Bradman
Steve Smith
Allan Border
Ricky Ponting
Greg Chappell
Matthew Hayden
Steve Waugh
David Warner
Michael Clarke
Adam Gilchrist

Warner and clarke FFS. Keith Miller because he was so handsome; and Richie Benaud because no one could talk like him.

I thought they’d have to have a place for Gary Cosier.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 15, 2023 3:27 pm

What are the chances of Jasper hitting the west side of Cape York and picking up water then going south east?
Anyone got any ideas?
(I’m hoping we get a bit of rain next week.)

2 scenarios playing out in the longer range models. It will pop into the Gulf as a low but still spinning with a bit of vorticity, sea temps up round 30 deg so reintensification if all the other ingredients are right likely. Most models have it heading to near Gove as a Cyclone. There they split, one has it washing out over NT around Christmas, other has it doing a u turn crossing back over the cape and a second run down the Coral sea between Christmas & New Year.

If it’s worth anything our rainfall despite the humidity has been paltry compared to north of Ingham. Mossman and surrounds would have to be closing on 600 – 800mm now. Those sorts of totals had most of us under water in 2019 and Ross Dam at 250% before they opened the floodgates. I was on generator power for 5 days during that one.

Vicki
Vicki
December 15, 2023 3:30 pm

Similarly, I can never feel down myself when I can scoop up a patiently uncomplaining Attapuss and nuzzle a kiss into his cat-sweet tummy. Like Bruce of the Cafe, I also find that our visiting wild birds also provide calming delight. They enjoy a silent chat. Not all would agree, but in my view a life without pets or other animal contact is missing out on some truly blissful moments.

I grew up with a lot of farm & domestic animals which I have loved, though my sister had zero interest in them. As an adult I have always had dogs and cats which I have nurtured well into old age – & mourned their eventual passing. This becomes an issue on the farm, as you can imagine. The health of our cattle is always monitored, & our vet bills (vet is an hour away) are pretty steep. But it is remarkable how loving attention is appreciated by animals in distress, when they are able to manage their fear. They are remarkably perceptive – currently I have a couple of very old cows (remember these rare breed & are not commercial cows) who have come to understand that if they stay behind in a paddock as the herd moves on (a counter intuitive thing for a cow) the lady of the farm ( pushover) will arrive with a sheaf of hay or a small bucket of cattle nuts (high protein little biscuit nuggets).

Vicki
Vicki
December 15, 2023 3:32 pm

Wot no Walters or Hussey

Gosh – I forgot Doug Walters! Hussey? Yes, but not amongst the giants IMO.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 3:34 pm

I miss my Westies.

And a word of caution about Toad in a Hole. She and her grotesque, grinning husband are the ultimate insiders. Like Shrillary and her computer, she may face zero consequences. What I want, and what I get by way of justice from this trial may be two different things.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2023 3:35 pm

Missed a lot this morning. Does that mean they are finished with Lisa?

I can’t answer because I have received advice.

Also I get the feeling you have a small army of with IT spies with Mossad level worms and Trojans and robots that will scour my phone and delete everything.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 15, 2023 3:35 pm

For Gods Sake, where do they get these journos from?

Uni.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 3:35 pm

Air, hellair…Dover appears to be trying out some sidebar plug-ins.

That would be great, because I keep forgetting to check out guest posts.

Jorge
Jorge
December 15, 2023 3:35 pm

Like, I wasn’t wedded to the Liberal Party,
I thought I would be there for six months.

As Sancho points out upthread this directly contradicts Wilkinson’s earlier emphatic assurance that Brittany devoted herself to the Liberal Party. This assurance was designed to add to the picture of Reynolds and Brown as heartless. One more reason for concluding that what was in train from The Project was a political hit job.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2023 3:36 pm
Alamak!
Alamak!
December 15, 2023 3:37 pm

Lee appears to be finding her testimony total bullshit.

Because it is.

No notes. no documented timeline of the story. no written evidence of any vetting process @ 10. Can’t name who provided legal advice. Confused on everything she has said more than 12 hours before.

10 and LW should be smacked severely for this amateur performance given what is at stake.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2023 3:39 pm

Well then Dot, perhaps you could outline:

a.) what the “Grifter in Chief” did, to stop these lemmings getting themselves imprisoned, and

Russian Toady meets Counterpunch.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2023 3:40 pm

Fun fact! (Nah, just kidding. Pure pedantry actually.)

The Trojan Horse may or may not be appropriately named because it was Greek in fabrication and design, anc only Trojan to the extent that the Greeks gave it to the Trojans.

BUT…if the hacker term is meant to be modelled on the idea of malicious code hidden in an apparently benign program then it was actually Greeks concealed in the horse, not Trojans.

I sometimes think programmers would fail the Turing test.

Digger
Digger
December 15, 2023 3:41 pm

Winston

The notorious ‘Vitalograph’ was a staple of Diving Medicals for my entire diving career so I understand what you are saying. A torture machine of sorts…

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2023 3:42 pm

Hackers are named after Jim Hacker.

I saw it on a Rowan Atkinson & Saunders & French Christmas special.

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 15, 2023 3:44 pm

ours when I was a kid saw him on Parkinson and thought it was real.

Never forget an interview with Humphries where he tells of a performance in Washington DC. Old duck turns to another old duck and Humphries hears her say “You know I think that this is man dressed as a woman”.

Cassie of Sydney
December 15, 2023 3:45 pm

Don Bradman
Steve Smith
Allan Border
Ricky Ponting
Greg Chappell
Matthew Hayden
Steve Waugh
David Warner
Michael Clarke
Adam Gilchrist

+ Sid Barnes

Winston Smith
December 15, 2023 3:46 pm

OK, Rockdoctor – I was hoping for your first, and perhaps it may just come off.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 15, 2023 3:48 pm

I found Lee’s questioning of the Toad about the involvement of Sharaz as a conduit very intriguing, particularly as he prefaced it by quoting Llewellyn’s claim that they (Ten) had a duty of care to protect Hoggins from exploitation.
I suspect Justice Lee is onto Sharaz, big-time.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 15, 2023 3:48 pm


And a word of caution about Toad in a Hole. She and her grotesque, grinning husband are the ultimate insiders.

All the doomsters who proclaim the collapse of Western civilisation have a case. If these ghastly people are the elite, doom is looking good by comparison.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 15, 2023 3:48 pm

As expected in Victoria, Labor Government brings out the trash on a Friday near Christmas. Surprised they didnt hold til next Friday.
Debt growing by $1 Billion per month.
Inserts Face-palm emoji here.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2023 3:49 pm

One man’s blowout is another man’s extra investment. It’s one of those irregular verbs (with apologies to Yes Minister).

shatterzzz
December 15, 2023 3:51 pm

Similarly, I can never feel down myself when I can scoop up a patiently uncomplaining Attapuss and nuzzle a kiss into his cat-sweet tummy.

My pair of ingrates won’t even eat until I move several metres away after loading the bowls .. and pick ’em up? .. duuuh! .. the mind boggles! ..

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 15, 2023 3:51 pm

WS, wait and see I suppose. The model pushing Jasper back to the Coral sea looks like it is heading for the cyclone graveyard east of NZ but I am surprised at the upper level ridging already this year that set Jasper towards the coast in the end. Could end up on the coast anywhere if one of those stands up.

LOL effects of the Tongan Volcano playing voodoo with climate.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 15, 2023 3:54 pm

Fair Shake

Dec 15, 2023 2:54 PM

When does the Mario the Magnificent lip-reader make an appearance.

Next Tuesday I think.
Lip reader plus lip speaker to translate.
I suspect Lee is very wary about the translation bit.
He will allow Milli Vanilli to have their day in court but will think about what weight he gives it and if he admits it as evidence at all.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 3:56 pm

Not really doomsaying…just stating the obvious.

Neither of them would hesitate to throw others under a bus if it served them. As demonstrated this morning. Also “I believed Bright Knees”.

All deflections, all squirrels away from her crystal clear intent to destroy several people’s careers and reputations for a story and a piece of tawdry tv bling. I hope it all comes back on her sevenfold.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 3:58 pm

I suspect Justice Lee is onto Sharaz, big-time.

Is it normal in a case the judge would be asking so many questions?

Winston Smith
December 15, 2023 3:58 pm

Digger
Dec 15, 2023 3:41 PM
Winston

The notorious ‘Vitalograph’ was a staple of Diving Medicals for my entire diving career so I understand what you are saying. A torture machine of sorts…

ALWAYS and I mean always operated by a 6’4″ elderly Amazon who demonstrated how to use it by blowing a near vertical line in the first instant, and capable of “Keep goingkeepgoing” while you inverted your spasming diaphragm and wheezed your way to the end.
“Come on you wheezy bastards – I’m 42, that’s twice your age and more and I can pump these damn things out until lights out.”
Fun days.

Crossie
Crossie
December 15, 2023 3:59 pm

My copy of the Barry Humphries book by Rowan Dean arrived today. I will have something good to read while I recover from this Covid thing.

Delta A
Delta A
December 15, 2023 4:01 pm

we’d be sung at by bellbirds in the gully opposite our house.

I first came across bellbirds when we stayed in a caravan park in Eden, NSW. At first, I was enthralled by such pretty notes coming from such drab looking birds. An hour later, I was ready to strangle them.

There were so many peep-peep-peeping all over the place; I couldn’t concentrate on anything else. But Eden is, as its name suggests, extraordinarily beautiful, with many attractions/distractions and by our second day, I hardly noticed them anymore.

We stayed six weeks in total during our travelling days. Along with Yamba and Warrnambool, it was one of our favourite places.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 4:02 pm

All the doomsters who proclaim the collapse of Western civilisation have a case. If these ghastly people are the elite, doom is looking good by comparison.

Recall the dingo case? How was that a good decision. Pell found redress from the appalling decisions coming from the lower courts and now Brucey. If anything, these examples suggest that bad people don’t always get their way and that there is redress. The Brucey case, if he wins, and it looks as though he may, is a shock wave.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2023 4:05 pm

I suspect Justice Lee is onto Sharaz, big-time.

Is he supposed to be called at some point? Ditto Brown.

Jorge
Jorge
December 15, 2023 4:06 pm

Bombers’ Captain Tim Watson rocked up to the Myer Food Hall for a promotion some time back in the 80s. He went through the spiel, got off the platform and was introduced to Humphries who had been booked for the same promo. They chatted for a bit then Humphries went off somewhere.

Watson was preparing to leave when suddenly Dame Edna was at his side and he, a bit terrified, thought it safer to play along, and tried to introduce himself:
‘ Hello, Dame Edna. My name’s Tim Watson. I’m with the Essendon ….’
‘I know who you are, you idiot ! I was just talking to you a minute ago. Do you think I’m senile or something ?’

Humphries always did have a low opinion of football and footballers but Watson still enjoys telling this story.

Cassie of Sydney
December 15, 2023 4:06 pm

“One more reason for concluding that what was in train from The Project was a political hit job.”

I have said this from day one.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 15, 2023 4:10 pm

JC, Michael Lee injects himself into cases a lot.
To move shit along & cut through the waffle.
But as you might have seen today, a soon as one of the lawyers gets on their feet, he withdraws and stops.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 4:12 pm

Okay Bern. First time I’ve tuned in and never heard of the judgster.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 15, 2023 4:12 pm

Channel 10 really screwed up.
They have to pay.
How much is the only question.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2023 4:12 pm

The Toad says Britnah lurved the Libs.
I think she possibly had Lib connections through family, but drifted left during uni.

To Wilkinson that defection from Liberal Party sympathies to the stinking morass on the left would be a beautiful thing that made her loins moist in a way they had not been since before her husband started jumping around the bedroom wearing nought but his bandana calling his distended male facsimile ‘the sword that deals maidens la petites morts’ and archly telling her she was going to ‘ride the plank’ and…well, never mind.

Point is that Wilkinson could easily have been infatuated with the loathsome Higgins and, as is normal in such transports of ecstasy, without thought imagined the future would all fall into place. After j’ismists have long been getting away with all manner of nonsense without any due diligence when levelled against the Liberal party for decades.

Just this time he soulmate picked on someone who would not have as easy time in a new career as actual politicians who all keep a bevy of private sector board contacts for after they ‘spend time with their family’, or have the profile to get overpriced talking gigs and token professorships at universities.

Alamak!
Alamak!
December 15, 2023 4:12 pm

I hope it all comes back on her sevenfold

70 or 700 would be good numbers.

Watching a little video of Britt – its inconsistent with what the security guards shared and wrote in their incident logs i.e. they asaid she wasn’t wearing a dress and that she did confirm she was Ok when asked by the guard.

Reynolds described the claimant well.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 15, 2023 4:12 pm

He’s not big on feelz.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2023 4:13 pm

JC

I stand top be corrected, but I think there is much greater leeway for Jurdges (properly constituted) in a defamation trial to actually seek clarification on any issue they like.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 15, 2023 4:14 pm

37 minutes ago
What we learned throughout Friday
Joanna Panagopoulos
Joanna Panagopoulos

? Lisa Wilkinson said she believed 80 hours was a “reasonable” amount of time for Bruce Lehrmann to respond to the allegations of rape against him, put to air at 7pm on Monday, February 15, 2021.

? Ms Wilkinson said she “still believed” Brittany Higgins’ career would be impacted if she proceeded with a police investigation. “I don’t think she would have been a valued member of the Liberal Party workplace if she had proceeded with that police investigation,” Ms Wilkinson told the court.

? Ms Wilkinson admitted The Project “excluded things” they felt were “possibly coloured” by Brittany Higgins’ trauma from the alleged assault when it came to then-Minister Linda Reynolds and her chief of staff Fiona Brown.

? Matthew Richardson SC suggested it was “unreasonable” to broadcast allegations about Minister Michaelia Cash telling Ms Higgins to “suck it up … before you leave”, when she wasn’t given an opportunity to respond to them. Ms Wilkinson said it wasn’t her job to put questions to Minister Cash but that they included “very strongly” that Minister Cash’s office disputed the fact she found out about the allegations in 2019.

? Ms Wilkinson denies always believing Brittany Higgins’ evidence over Linda Reynolds despite accusing the Senator of lying during Question Time in the Senate.

? Ms Wilkinson said that when she told her producer four-and-a-half hours before The Project broadcast that Senator Reynolds was “lying through her teeth” she was referring to comments she made in Question Time that she would not have conducted the meeting with Ms Higgins’ in her office if she knew the details of the alleged incident.

? Ms Wilkinson says she would have “preferred” if The Project communicated directly with Brittany Higgins rather than using her partner David Sharaz “as a conduit” following questions from Justice Michael Lee on whether she was “vulnerable to being manipulated” as a victim of sexual assault.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2023 4:14 pm

Yellow card for moist.

Delta A
Delta A
December 15, 2023 4:15 pm

Ive found Dots future bride.

Intriguing eyes.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2023 4:17 pm

To Wilkinson that defection from Liberal Party sympathies to the stinking morass on the left would be a beautiful thing that made her loins moist in a way they had not been since before her husband started jumping around the bedroom wearing nought but his bandana calling his distended male facsimile ‘the sword that deals maidens la petites morts’ and archly telling her she was going to ‘ride the plank’ and…well, never mind.

A text before drinkies with Lehrmann about intentionally making a sex scandal minus the baby that would hurt the incumbent government might nullify this stupid little contrived story about being the next Kelly O’Dwyer.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 4:18 pm

I can’t fcking believe it. The disgusting bint reckons it was perfectly fine for Brucey to be asked his side of the story on a Friday at 2.45 pm (without warning) and the program was going to air at 7 pm on Monday. According to this orc he had plenty of time, 80 hours in fact, to seek legal opinion. She reckons lawyers work 7 days a week and it was reasonable. Reasonable time that a mid 20s kid is likely going to be identified on national television he was an accused rapist.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 4:20 pm

Stone the crows, Mother Lode! Fair dinkum!

That’s smiting stuff, right there. Consider yourself reported to Teacher.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 4:20 pm

Reasonable time in a she said/ he said case where there was nothing to corroborate her (Higgins) story. What a pos.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 15, 2023 4:20 pm

The Brucey case, if he wins, and it looks as though he may, is a shock wave.

That’s the sunny optimist in you, JC. Definitely a glass half full man.

I want to see justice. That would entail the ghastly scrubbers who orchestrated a coup to bring down the government having to cough up their life savings and spend a few decades in an insanitary slammer. I don’t see it as likely. So I’ll continue to be Mr. Grumpypants.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2023 4:22 pm

To Wilkinson that defection from Liberal Party sympathies to the stinking morass on the left would be a beautiful thing that made her loins moist in a way they had not been since before her husband started jumping around the bedroom wearing nought but his bandana calling his distended male facsimile ‘the sword that deals maidens la petites morts’ and archly telling her she was going to ‘ride the plank’ and…well, never mind.

Most excellent commentary Mother Lode. Take a bow.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2023 4:22 pm

thefrollickingmole
Dec 15, 2023 3:36 PM

Ive found Dots future bride.

I admit, that your aim is getting better. You used to troll me with Big Red and Clam Forward.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 4:24 pm

You forgot another euphemism.

Introducing the appendage as “my old mate, Bluey”.

Thanks cobber.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2023 4:25 pm

Intriguing eyes.

Normally called crazy eyes.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 4:25 pm

Now I have to report myself.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2023 4:27 pm

…about being the next Kelly O’Dwyer.

All you need to know about “professional politicians” right there.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 15, 2023 4:28 pm

‘the sword that deals maidens la petites morts’

Should that be les petites morts?

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2023 4:28 pm

Correct, Bear.

Now her mentor is the next Ros Kelly.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 4:29 pm

Doc

Humanity is a mess all the time. I guarantee you that if you ran a poll, any poll, any time about any subject, a quarter of the respondents would arrive at the stupidest answer to anything. This has always been like that.

The reason you’re thinking the way you do is because you’re seeing a more active alternative media in operation. Think back to when there were only the, new at 6.30, national dailies, the Bulletin, Time, Newsweek and the Economist. Do you really think we were being fed what were the real stories then? This wasn’t that long ago. We’ve always been fed bullshit by the MSM. It just wasn’t apparent then as it is now.

As far as courts go, there’s always been injustices done and quite often we’ve see redress.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 15, 2023 4:31 pm

From the Hun.

Steve Price: Melbourne councils more focused on war in Palestine than fixing local roads

Melbourne councils are more interested in fighting global warming, supporting Palestine and cancelling Australia Day than what they are employed to do – fixing local roads and collecting rubbish.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 15, 2023 4:33 pm

JC
Dec 15, 2023 3:58 PM

I suspect Justice Lee is onto Sharaz, big-time.

Is it normal in a case the judge would be asking so many questions?

My experience in court is somewhat limited but, yes, he seems to be adopting more of a European or US style, asking questions to clarify stuff, whereas others might just sit back and take what is presented.
None of his interventions have been very helpful to Ten or the Toad.
Nothing today about the Logies “advice”.
I think he has formed a view on that and perhaps it will just be a matter of who shares the damages for it. If it was a Ten lawyer, they will cop it. If Toad was freelancing it is on her head.

Delta A
Delta A
December 15, 2023 4:38 pm

I suspect Justice Lee is onto Sharaz, big-time

Yes. He looks like a loveable, scatty grandfather, but in truth, he’s sharp as a tack.

I was worried that he wouldn’t pick up the discrepancy re the timing of QT and Reynolds’ recanting of part of her testimony at the Drumgold Trial. But there he was, quietly and methodically picking apart Wilks’ ‘lying through her teeth’ evidence.

Is it possible for CH 10 to be found guilty of BL’s charges, and Wilks’ not guilty, or does the charge cover both simultaneously?

Alamak!
Alamak!
December 15, 2023 4:38 pm

Regarding the Bru & Bri thingy. Is there anything from the claimant backed up by anyone else or any objective record – granted that bri was wearing a white dress which non-lying govt video has duly confirmed.

reminds me of …

… if you have facts then present facts, if you don’t have facts then use the laws. if you don’t have facts or laws then rely on testimony of faire maidens and trusted media stars.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 4:38 pm

If Toad was freelancing it is on her head.

That’s the side I’ve never understood. As much as I want to see this cane toad in severe pain, why is she personally liable when she was working for 10 and the station brought the program to air. As an employee, what case does she have to answer?

Or is she only liable for the Logies crap?

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 4:39 pm

Sort of snap , Delta.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2023 4:42 pm

I have never in my life found myself in a situation where I’ve stopped work and said, ‘Thank God it’s Friday.’ But weekends are special even if your schedule is all over the place. Something tells you the weekend has arrived and you can indulge yourself a bit.

– Helen Mirren

John H.
John H.
December 15, 2023 4:43 pm

JC
Dec 15, 2023 4:29 PM
Doc

Humanity is a mess all the time. I guarantee you that if you ran a poll, any poll, any time about any subject, a quarter of the respondents would arrive at the stupidest answer to anything. This has always been like that.

The reason you’re thinking the way you do is because you’re seeing a more active alternative media in operation. Think back to when there were only the, new at 6.30, national dailies, the Bulletin, Time, Newsweek and the Economist. Do you really think we were being fed what were the real stories then? This wasn’t that long ago. We’ve always been fed bullshit by the MSM. It just wasn’t apparent then as it is now.

As far as courts go, there’s always been injustices done and quite often we’ve see redress.

Suppose I was an idiot and a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.

Twain.

If the only significant history of human thought were to be written, it would have to be the history of its successive regrets and its impotences.

Camus

How many monarchs were inept? Too many.
How often have human beings chosen sociopathic leaders? All too often.
How long did it take before democracy became an accepted form of government? Over a millennia.
The Old Testament contains commandments to kill ’em all but keep the virgins for yourselves. That’s standard fare in history. Today the killing of a few thousand is considered horrendous. In the past that would have been a so what episode.
Modern societies are less violent, have the highest longevity ever, create a standard of living that in prior centuries would consider miraculous, we are curing diseases with increasing efficacy, etc etc etc.

Don’t rely on the MSM or social media to provide a balanced view. The MSM is about sales not truth. Social media is about pushing barrows not truth.

We have some very serious problems but we also have a tremendous capacity to find solutions. There is nothing in human history that comes even close to our capacity to adapt and flourish.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 4:45 pm

John H

Preaching to the very converted. 🙂

Lysander
Lysander
December 15, 2023 4:46 pm

Your taxes at work:

Settlement Sum

2.1 Subject to Lehrmann complying at all times with his obligations under the Deed, the ABC will, within fourteen (14) days of the execution of this Deed by both parties, pay the total sum of $150,000 (the Settlement Sum) as follows:

(a) $143,000 as a contribution toward Lehrmann’s costs of the proceeding, to be paid to Lehrmann’s solicitor’s trust account in accordance with clause 2.6; and

(b) $7,000 to be paid to solicitors acting for Laura Tingle on account of the costs liability incurred by Lehrmann in connection with her compliance with the subpoena to produce documents issued by him to Ms Tingle and dated 28 June 2023.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 4:48 pm

Mirren Schmirren. Maggie Smith enquires….

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2023 4:49 pm

I noticed a subtle shift in the toads testimony today.

She used the “I recieved advice” line, which implies she sought out and was given advice from a legal representative personally.
Thats morphed into “channel 10 knew of it, and their lawyers didnt see a problem” in todays questioning when pressed by the Jurdge!

The first implies “I took all steps to make sure i didnt defame anyone”, the second is “someone else at my employers was responsible for making sure i didnt defame anyone”.

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2023 4:49 pm

Well, Lisa Wilkinson would have now been able to talk to Counsel Chrysanthou. If there were no tears during her cross-examination, I bet they flowed when she talked to Counsel. It might have gone along these lines: LW – well, how did I go, huh huh? SC: Um – not very well, I’m afraid. My advice is to prepare yourself.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 15, 2023 4:50 pm

H B Bear
Dec 15, 2023 4:14 PM
Yellow card for moist.

I was in a Jury for a criminal rape case a few years back. The judge asked quite a few questions to clarify things. At one particular awkward moment he wanted to clarify ‘moist’. The prosecutor was on her feet objected strongly to the judge. He stood his ground and said he was clarifying for the jury. Considering it was a rape case we all squirmed in our seats and thankfully the discussion moved on. A yellow card would have come in handy.

Alamak!
Alamak!
December 15, 2023 4:51 pm

That’s the side I’ve never understood. As much as I want to see this cane toad in severe pain, why is she personally liable when she was working for 10 and the station brought the program to air. As an employee, what case does she have to answer?

Prolly depends on the specific contract she worked under. Hard to believe there would be no clauses related to defamation and the process used to try and avoid it. If there is a process 10 or LW did not follow then costs may be charged accordingly.

To be fair to the media maiden the show is owned by 10 and content also, so any costs should go to 10 in 1st instance, then to LW possibly.

/IANAL

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 4:55 pm

….thats morphed into “channel 10 knew of it, and their lawyers didnt see a problem” in todays questioning when pressed by the Jurdge!

Isn’t that true though. It’s the legal department’s responsibility to weigh in with the legal ramifications and the station head or someone just below him to weigh the importance of the story for ratings etc, the legal risk and finally, whether to run with it.

Damon
Damon
December 15, 2023 4:55 pm

“My pair of ingrates won’t even eat until I move several metres away ”

Get a dog. The bowl’s empty ten seconds after it touches the floor.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 15, 2023 4:57 pm

JC

Dec 15, 2023 4:18 PM

I can’t fcking believe it. The disgusting bint reckons it was perfectly fine for Brucey to be asked his side of the story on a Friday at 2.45 pm (without warning) and the program was going to air at 7 pm on Monday.

The old Mediawatch tactic.
I hope that gets a run in the judgement and it puts an end to this sort of ambush.
As I said the other day, the contact details all came from Sharaz. The phone number was an old Parliament House one (BL no longer worked there) which conveniently had one digit transcribed incorrectly. As for the two email addresses, one was from a former employer and the other was not current. It would be interesting to know when and how the second email was created.
Llewellyn was very keen that no-one from Ten click on BL’s Linked In profile in case it alerted him. Why would that be? You want to contact someone, but you don’t want to alert them.
They also assiduously avoided any form of media they thought might be “live” (Facebook and Instagram).

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 4:57 pm

Please, please, please let it be that she ploughed on without getting written approval from Ten’s legal team.

I trust she enquired only of the Tea Lady, or perhaps the resultant tea leaves. Because special.

Make it so. *channels Captain Picard*

Rabz
December 15, 2023 5:04 pm

I’m a super serious (non tabloid) jismist

To paraphrase Sgt Steiner: “A person is generally what they perceive themselves to be.” Except when they are not.

I believe we are living in a societal quagmire of profound ignorance and brain-dead mediocrity

This is more like it. Speaking of profoundly ignorant braindead mediocrities:

Tony Burqa

Quite possibly the unfunniest idiot to have existed in human history. Whose brilliant idea was it to give him a speaking gig at Bazza’s “state tribute”?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2023 5:05 pm

It’s the legal department’s responsibility to weigh in with the legal ramifications and the station head or someone just below him to weigh the importance of the story for ratings etc, the legal risk and finally, whether to run with it.

The Jurdge was quick to say he didnt want to know what the specifics of the advice was (as that would be the client/lawyer confidentiality), just that it had been sought/given and from who.

So its possible, in response to callis prayer, the good lord saw a Lawyer advise her “thats risky” and she went ahead and did it anyway.

amortiser
amortiser
December 15, 2023 5:05 pm

areff
Dec 15, 2023 1:25 PM
An Elsie update: Thank God there are decent people in this world like Winston Smith, who has agreed to take her while I’m away.

She’ll be flying to his local airport next week for collection.

Thank you, Winston, from the bottom of my heart.

And thanks, too, to all the Cats who expressed their sympathy both here and in private correspondence.

He should have had her put down and got another one when he got home.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 5:06 pm

Please, please, please let it be that she ploughed on without getting written approval from Ten’s legal team.

Surely, the only matter of importance was the final cut and it going to air. The legal team would’ve giving the okay, which is why that department will be seeing changes soon. How they got there is important too, in judging malice etc, but the 10 legal team of honchos are in big trouble I think.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 15, 2023 5:07 pm

Uber Eats options are terrible

I know several young Australians who hardly ever eat in. They sometimes breakfast on cereal and toast at home, with the only kitchen appliances being a microwave, frige and toaster.

They routinely eat lunch and dinner out. Of course, they don’t drink coffee at home.

They routinely complain about the cost of living. One was offered an Adult Ed cooking class as a present but politely declined.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 5:07 pm

given

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 5:09 pm

It’s going into the annual, 2024 batch of bolognese Meat’s expensive these days.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2023 5:10 pm

Isn’t that true though. It’s the legal department’s responsibility to weigh in with the legal ramifications and the station head or someone just below him to weigh the importance of the story for ratings etc, the legal risk and finally, whether to run with it.

So what you are pretty much saying JC is that Channel 10 and their HR and legal teams aren’t overly qualified to speak and pontificate?

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 5:10 pm

fur and all.

Lysander
Lysander
December 15, 2023 5:11 pm

Voter fraud database:

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

Very interesting!!!

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2023 5:11 pm

He should have had her put down and got another one when he got home.

I assume you are trying to be funny. If not, then that is a repulsive thing to say to someone who loves his cat dearly.

P
P
December 15, 2023 5:15 pm

My copy of the Barry Humphries book by Rowan Dean arrived today. I will have something good to read while I recover from this Covid thing.

I wish you a speedy recovery. I guess it does not make any difference whether you have had a vaccination or not. I dread the thought of it.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 5:15 pm

So what you are pretty much saying JC is that Channel 10 and their HR and legal teams aren’t overly qualified to speak and pontificate?

And that they’re incompetent morons? Look, it could well be the legal eagles put forward apprehension because I’ve never seen an optimistic lawyer, especially in-house as it’s always easier to say no. In house lawyers are deal killers. Who finally pulled the trigger on the story?

There’s also the tension between the talking heads and the legal department, and you can envision a possibility where the legal department isn’t much chop in terms of opposition to the ‘stars”.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 15, 2023 5:16 pm

I met Tony Burqa years ago as one of the welcoming crew for a conference he opened.
Tends to smile a lot but seriously dull company.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 5:18 pm

JMH
Dec 15, 2023 5:11 PM

He should have had her put down and got another one when he got home.

I assume you are trying to be funny. If not, then that is a repulsive thing to say to someone who loves his cat dearly.

Imagine, Mad Karen competing for a car park and losing out. Imagine the squealing.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 15, 2023 5:19 pm

I assume Wilkinson and Brinny will be spending New Year’s Eve together- because no luvvies will be going to Lisa’s trad bash, and Grace Tame sure as f#ck will never again pick up the phone for the Hog.
FitzSimons and Sharaz better just quietly clear the dishes and yawn as they say, “wow is that the time?”

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 5:20 pm

Little Cat, Scourge of Mice is the putter downerer.

And, she is still on her first life.

Get a grip, man.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
December 15, 2023 5:22 pm

I can’t believe James Packer bought in to 10 before this shitshow. One might say it was unfortunate timing, I sincerely doubt that’s how his old man would have framed it.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 5:24 pm

“You only get one James Packer in your lifetime…”

Rafiki
Rafiki
December 15, 2023 5:24 pm

A thought on Lee J’s implicit suggestion that there was a risk that a vulnerable Higgins might have been manipulated by Shiraz. (He didn’t say why he thought so, which is of interest).

Did Lee raise this as a way of ameliorating (for Higgins’ sake) a conclusion he has reached that Ten has not proved to his satisfaction that Lehrmann raped Higgins? He might so conclude because of incoherence, falsehoods and inconsistencies in her evidence. But if she was manipulated, then her conduct is somewhat excused.

Note that Higgins was not legally represented, so no lawyer present had a direct interest in pursuing Lee Js question.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 15, 2023 5:25 pm

amortiser
Dec 15, 2023 5:05 PM
areff
Dec 15, 2023 1:25 PM
An Elsie update: Thank God there are decent people in this world like Winston Smith, who has agreed to take her while I’m away.

She’ll be flying to his local airport next week for collection.

Thank you, Winston, from the bottom of my heart.

And thanks, too, to all the Cats who expressed their sympathy both here and in private correspondence.

He should have had her put down and got another one when he got home.

Wanker! Worthy of a punch to the head.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 15, 2023 5:26 pm

I met Tony Burqa years ago as one of the welcoming crew for a conference he opened.

Do you remember his performance – or lack of it – as Minister for Agriculture?

Vicki
Vicki
December 15, 2023 5:27 pm

Too interesting to leave on the shelf at Peter West’s new post:
This might be the best explanation I heard for “why Oct 7” and, surprisingly, it comes from Ami Ayalon, former head of the Shin Bet, Israel’s secret service, and commander-in-chief of the Navy.

While the rest of us are often bewildered at the seeming obscurity of Palestinian attitudes, it seems to be a very long bow to suggest that the October 7 attack was designed make the Gazans more reliant/supportive of Hamas per se.

I get that long term preparations had been made in the vast tunnel construction, & that there may indeed have been extensive collaboration with other ME players.
I also “get” that the subsequent suffering of the Gazan population may make them despise the Israelis even more…..but ……..

I don’t know …..maybe our philosophy of the meaning of life is just too removed from the ME mindset.

Delta A
Delta A
December 15, 2023 5:31 pm

but the 10 legal team of honchos are in big trouble I think.

I agree, JC, my learned friend. My take is that the 10 team must prove that, at all times, they were mindful of BL’s right to anonymity and protection of his good name. (The Drumgold trial was aborted. As a result, Lehrmann was just a regular, innocent Joe.)

It’s going to be difficult for them to pull that off.

Wilkinson is obliged to prove the same. Having thrown her producer, all the elevated execs and 10’s entire legal team under the bus, it seems to me that she has more chance of success. However, if she fails, then 10 goes down with her.

Amirite?

Rafiki
Rafiki
December 15, 2023 5:31 pm

In other words, Lee J has twigged to the fact that it wasn’t Higgins alone who ran the rape allegation, and he’s fingered another culprit. He didn’t have enough to work in Gallagher and Wong.
I doubt that their role will ever be exposed beyond what we an guess at now.

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2023 5:32 pm

I have absolutely ZERO time for anyone who ridicules people who have pets and love them. They are members of their family, afterall.

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 15, 2023 5:37 pm

Keith Miller on the strength of his Messerschmitt quote.

I’ll tell you what pressure is. Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse. Playing cricket is not.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 15, 2023 5:38 pm

Saint Lisa’s lawyer told her to shut up at the end.
Or words to that effect.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 5:38 pm

Alamak

=

Prolly depends on the specific contract she worked under. Hard to believe there would be no clauses related to defamation and the process used to try and avoid it.

The gross negligence clause is pretty standard in big time hire contracts. That’s why she keep fingering the producer and the legal team. I’ve read about the case and watched some today. She was certainly biased as f..k, and likely dishonest, but is there any sightings of gross negligence on her part so far? Did she keep anything from the producer and or the legal team? Doesn’t appear so yet.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 5:42 pm

Tell that to the psychiatrist, Kez. We’re not properly trained to help aging old girlymen with intolerance issues. You intolerant lightweight.

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2023 5:42 pm

feelthebern
Dec 15, 2023 5:38 PM
Saint Lisa’s lawyer told her to shut up at the end.
Or words to that effect.

LW: Can I say something? SC NO. LW: but I want to say… -SC
NO NO NO – but the cretin said it anyway. Hilarious.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 15, 2023 5:43 pm

feelthebern

Dec 15, 2023 5:38 PM

Saint Lisa’s lawyer told her to shut up at the end.
Or words to that effect.

Ah, yes.
She offers some help on the matter of her connection with Sharaz.
Ms Crysanthou nearly jumped the bar table to shut her up.
Lee and Crysanthou joke about witnesses going off reservation.

JC
JC
December 15, 2023 5:45 pm

Amirite?

Sure, but then there will be a legal entanglement with 10 and if she acted grossly negligent. It maybe hard to prove here.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 15, 2023 5:45 pm

The Islamic double standard

Muslims need to stop supporting other Islamic fanatics who engage in sociopathic violence. – AFR Paywalled

Sam Harris

What is Islamophobia?

Someone once said on the internet that it’s a word “invented by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons”, and that’s not far from the truth.

There is no question the term has been designed to confuse people. Its purpose is to conflate any criticism of Islam, which is a doctrine of religious beliefs, with bigotry against Muslims as people.

In fact, it equates secularism itself – the commitment to keeping religion out of our laws and public policy – with hatred.

The term is now being widely used in the mainstream media, and it is making it impossible to speak honestly about the consequences of dangerous ideas.

Let’s be clear about what is real here and what is fake. Racism is real. There are white supremacists in America, for instance.

And, of course, these imbeciles can be counted upon to hate immigrants from Muslim-majority countries – Arabs, Pakistanis, Somalis, etc. – and to hate them for their superficial characteristics, such as the colour of their skin.

This is detestable.

But these people hate non-Muslim immigrants too – for instance, Hindus from India – and for the same reasons. We already have words like “racism” and “xenophobia” to cover this problem. Inventing a new term like “Islamophobia” doesn’t give us licence to say there is a new form of hatred in the world.The Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, the most holy site in Islam. Reuters

There is no race of Muslims.

Islam is a system of ideas, subscribed to by people of every race and ethnicity. It’s just like Christianity in that regard.

Christianity and Islam are both aggressively missionary faiths, and they win converts from everywhere.

People criticise Christianity all the time and worry about its political and social influences – but no one confuses this for bigotry against Christians as people.

There’s no such thing as “Christophobia”. If you criticise Christianity – and I’ve written an entire book excoriating Christianity – no one accuses you of being a racist against people from Brazil or Mexico or Ethiopia or the Philippines.

But even the New York Times will use the term “Islamophobia” as a synonym for racism against Arabs.

This is pure delusion and propaganda. There are Christian Arabs. And I could become a Muslim in five minutes just by converting to the faith.

How does the term “antisemitism” differ as a concept? Well, we have a 2000-year-old tradition of religiously inspired hatred against Jews, courtesy of Christian theology.

But for at least the last 150 years, or so, Jews have been thought of as a distinct race of people, both by those who hate them and, rather often, by Jews themselves.

So antisemitism tends to be expressed as a specific form of racism.

Antisemites are not focused on what Jews believe, or even on what they do on the basis of their beliefs.

Modern antisemites, like Nazis, care about who your mother’s mother’s mother was.

Just like racism, antisemitism has become a hatred of people, as people, not because of their beliefs or their behaviour, but because of the mere circumstances of their birth.

Do you want France to be more like Pakistan? You just need more jihadists.

Why is this different? Well, unlike a person’s race or skin colour or country of origin, beliefs can be argued for, and criticised, and changed. And the truth is, we don’t respect people’s beliefs just because they hold them. Beliefs must earn respect.

And there is a good reason for this.

Beliefs are claims about reality and about how human beings should live within it – so they necessarily lead to behaviours, and to values, and laws, and institutions that affect the lives of everyone, whether they share these beliefs or not.

Beliefs end marriages and start wars.

Honestly criticising the doctrine of Islam does not entail bigotry against Arabs or any other group of people.

It is not an expression of hatred to notice that specific Islamic ideas – in particular, beliefs about martyrdom, and jihad, and blasphemy, and apostasy – inspire terrible acts of violence.

And it’s not an expression of phobia – that is, irrational fear – to notice that violent religious fanatics don’t make good neighbours.

And while every religion has its fanatics, there is only one religion on Earth where even mainstream members of the faith seek to impose their religious taboos on everyone else.

There is only one religion that has made it unsafe for people to criticise it – or indeed, for its own members to leave it.

Only Muslims routinely fear for their lives when they decide to leave their religion – and this is true, even in the West.

If you doubt this, just read some books or listen to some podcasts by ex-Muslims.

Anyone who wants to draw a cartoon, or write a novel, or stage a play that makes fun of Mormonism is free to do that.

In the United States, this freedom is nominally guaranteed by the First Amendment.

But that is not, in fact, what guarantees it.

The freedom to poke fun at Mormonism is guaranteed by the fact that Mormons don’t tend to murder their critics.

They don’t start riots and burn embassies in response to satire.

When The Book of Mormon became the most celebrated musical in the United States, the LDS [Latter-day Saints] Church protested by placing ads for their faith in the program.

That might have been a wasted effort: but it was also a charming sign of good humour.

The Book of Mormon musical ridiculed the Church of Latter-day Saints.

Yes, there are crazy and dangerous people in every faith – and I often hear from them.

But what is true of Mormonism is true of every other religion, with a single exception.

Can you imagine staging a similar play about Islam anywhere on Earth?

No, you cannot – unless you also imagine the creators of that play being hunted for the rest of their lives by religious maniacs.

You also have to imagine Muslims by the hundreds of thousands, in dozens of countries, going absolutely berserk.

At this moment in history, there is only one religion that systematically stifles free expression with credible threats of violence.

The truth is, we have already lost our First Amendment freedoms with respect to Islam.

We lost them decades ago – and anyone who is tempted to cry “Islamophobia” at this point, shares the blame for this.

This status quo is intolerable – and, most important, it should be intolerable to Muslims themselves.

They should be mortified that their community is so uniquely combustible.

Consider what is actually happening.

Some percentage of the world’s Muslims – and it is not just extremists – are demanding that all non-Muslims conform to Islamic law.

And while they might not immediately resort to violence in their protests, they threaten it.

Carrying a sign through the streets of London that reads “Behead Those Who Insult the Prophet” might still count as an example of peaceful protest, but it is also an assurance that infidel blood would be shed if the thug holding the sign only had more power.

Wherever Muslims do have real power, this grotesque promise is always fulfilled.

To make a film, or stage a play, or write a novel critical of Islam in any Muslim-majority country, is as sure a method of suicide as the laws of physics allow.

There is only one religion on Earth that has normalised this level of fanaticism.

And it isn’t an expression of bigotry to notice that this is totally antithetical to everything that civilised people value in the 21st century.

The October 7 attacks in Israel changed the way many of us think about the vulnerability of open societies.

They changed the way we think about immigration and failures of assimilation.

And they revealed a level of moral confusion in our universities and other institutions that is as astonishing as it is masochistic.

We have people who are ostensibly committed to women’s rights, and gay rights, and trans rights, mindlessly supporting people who would hurl them from rooftops or beat them to death with their own hands.

It is not a sign of bigotry to notice this hypocrisy and moral confusion for what it is.

It really is possible to be critical of Israel, and to be committed to the political rights of the Palestinian people, without denying the reality of Islamic religious fanaticism – or the threat that it poses not just to Israel, but to open societies everywhere.

There have been nearly 50,000 acts of Islamic terrorism in the last 40 years – and the French group that maintains a database of these attacks considers that to be an undercount.

Ninety per cent of them have occurred in Muslim countries. Most have nothing to do with Israel or Jews.

There have been 82 attacks in France and over 2000 in Pakistan during this period.

Do you want France to be more like Pakistan?

You just need more jihadists. You just need more people susceptible to becoming jihadists.

You just need a wider Muslim community that won’t condemn jihadism, but pretends that the theology that inspires it will be true and perfect until the end of the world.

You just need millions of people who will protest Israel for defending itself, or call for the deaths of cartoonists for depicting the prophet Muhammad, and yet not make a peep about the jihadist atrocities that occur daily, all over the world, in the name of their religion.

When hundreds of thousands of people show up in London to condemn Hamas, or the Islamic State, or any specific instance of jihadist savagery, without both-sides-ing anything, then we will know that something has changed.

When Muslims by the millions pour into the streets in protest, not over cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad, but over the murder of cartoonists by their own religious fanatics, we will know that we’ve made a modicum of progress.

The Muslim world needs to win a war of ideas with itself, and perhaps several civil wars.

It has to de-radicalise itself.

It has to transform the doctrine of jihad into something far more benign than it is, and it has to stop supporting its religious fanatics when they come into conflict with non-Muslims.

If the Muslim community and the political left can’t stand against jihadism, it is only a matter of time before their moral blindness leads to right-wing authoritarianism in the West.

If secular liberals won’t create secure borders, fascists will.

And that is a world that none of us should want to live in.

This is an edited transcript of the December 6 Making Sense podcast recorded by American philosopher Sam Harris.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 5:50 pm

Reflecting on Little Cat going to Winston rather than my Mum…

A week with Mum would have her demanding Pina Coladas and being caught in the rain from poor, returned areff. Plus her favourite Fancy Feast flavours.

The right choice has been made.

Alamak!
Alamak!
December 15, 2023 5:51 pm

She was certainly biased as f..k, and likely dishonest, but is there any sightings of gross negligence on her part so far? Did she keep anything from the producer and or the legal team? Doesn’t appear so yet.

True. I am still surprised (too much CSI?) that we are not seeing documents showing that LW got signoff from Legal and Management on what was surely a big story.

If no signoff or she did not share material details counter to the story then LW could be in trouble. If all was shared by LW and signed off by 10, 10 is about to enter a world of pain. This is somewhat bigger than just peeing on someones rug

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 15, 2023 5:51 pm

Vicki the ME mindset apart from theJews and the Christians is its someone elses fault but if I keep killing I and my family are guaranteed paradise.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 5:57 pm

dover0beach
Dec 15, 2023 4:48 PM
Too interesting to leave on the shelf at Peter West’s new post:

Yes. Two world views, two moralities going head to head.

One, where loss – human, materiel, real estate – is critical to policy making.

The other – meh. We will conquer over a pyramid of skulls, either our own or yours.

Delta A
Delta A
December 15, 2023 5:59 pm

The right choice has been made.

Quite so.

And if armageddon descends and catches us all by surprise, we can be comforted, as we painfully breathe our last, that Winnie is a long time prepper and he and Elsie will survive, content in each others’ company.

Indolent
Indolent
December 15, 2023 6:00 pm

I read the comments on banning manufactured stone. Do they have any idea how many people will be thrown out of work over this? Do they even care? I’ve recently been involved in renovating my mother’s unit which suffered fire damage and I can tell you that the showrooms for manufactured stone are barn sized. It’s the in thing at the moment, not to mention affordable for the non-billionaire class.

Have you ever noticed that every single thing they do somehow seems to widen the gap between the mega-rich influential class and the rest of us? This certainly won’t affect them. They’ll just move on to marble while the rest of us can just make do.

And don’t make me laugh, we’re expected to believe they care about our health and safety, after coercing us to put poison in our arms while blocking access to proven safe and effective medication? Please.

miltonf
miltonf
December 15, 2023 6:01 pm

Britnah lurved the Libs.
I think she possibly had Lib connections through family

I suspect that’s how many if not most ‘advisors’ are appointed. It’s certainly been an interesting expose of the spite, mendacity, mediocrity and evil of the legacy meja. Strange how our society makes these rubbish people millionaires.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 15, 2023 6:02 pm

Rukshan bringing the news others are too blind to see:

Rukshan Fernando @therealrukshan
Lisa Wilkinson promoted herself as photography expert, and was even featured by
@CanonAustralia
Yet today she claim she has no basic idea about digital photographs containing metadata. In the videos featured on the Canon YouTube Lisa can be seen interacting with MetaData on photographs.

I believe an appropriate comment from Lisa would be: “Oops”

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 6:02 pm

affordable for the non-billionaire class.

And there we have it.

Air travel ditto.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 15, 2023 6:03 pm

If CH 10 had documents of legal advice clearing the program I’m sure they it would have been tendered. The idiot producer probably accepted the Toads assurance of advice sought ( without it being legal advice) and gave it the green light. None of them seem too bright. Britnee, Brucie, Sharah, Dumgold, the ACT judge, the liars pollies, Chanel no.10, Toad, the list goes on. Just as well we’re in good hands.

Zippster
Zippster
December 15, 2023 6:06 pm

House Asks Fed to Test US Banks for China War Fallout | China In Focus
00:55 House Asks Fed to Test U.S. Banks for China War Fallout
03:39 Senate Passes Defense Bill with Biggest Boost in Decades
04:38 NDAA Mandates Report on Possible 2030 War with China
05:17 UK, Italy, Japan to Develop New Fighter Jets
China, Russia Warplanes Spotted near South Korea
07:32 Philippine Drills Practice Defense Against China
09:37 House Committee on CCP’s ‘Transnational Suppression’
13:09 Temu Files New Lawsuit Against Rival SHEIN
TikTok Hits $10 Billion User Spending Mark
German Subsidies for TSMC, Intel Chip Plants Secured
Mumbai Leads Asia in New Stock Market Listings
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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 15, 2023 6:11 pm

Elsie update:

Good stuff, Winston … champion!

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 6:11 pm

Rukshan needs to copy Justice Lee in on the “facts”.

No. Belay that. My guess is that both Lee and Richardson are already aware of Lisa’s hobby.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 15, 2023 6:15 pm

Calli: Ruckshan’s extensive thread on the topic is to be found here

Alamak!
Alamak!
December 15, 2023 6:16 pm

Lisa W’s photography Tips

No mention of metadata

miltonf
miltonf
December 15, 2023 6:16 pm

So let’s see, since the ‘election’ of the anal gubmint, they and their pubic pals in canbra are attacking-

salmon farmers
barramundi fishermen
stone cutters

They are evil filth.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2023 6:17 pm

b) $7,000 to be paid to solicitors acting for Laura Tingle on account of the costs liability incurred by Lehrmann in connection with her compliance with the subpoena to produce documents issued by him to Ms Tingle and dated 28 June 2023.

Good one. What a prima donna

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 15, 2023 6:17 pm

Ranga.
There are two matters which are subject to scrutiny as to the status of legal advice.
Firstly, there is the airing of the show on Ten. It is unclear what legal clearance was given by Ten’s in-house lawyers, or by reference to independent advice. Toad assures us it got the tick but not specific about it.
Secondly there is her Loggies speech. She claims she “sought advice” but doesn’t say if it was legal advice or whether it came from Ten or other sources.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 15, 2023 6:19 pm

miltonf Dec 15, 2023 6:16 PM
So let’s see, since the ‘election’ of the anal gubmint, they and their pubic pals in canbra are attacking-

salmon farmers
barramundi fishermen
stone cutters

Sheep exporters.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 6:21 pm

That was quick, Amalak.

Did you watch the videos mentioned by Rukshan? My guess is that you just looked at the accompanying script.

I’m going to gird my lions for the second day in a row and watch the slag preening her photographic knowledge,

Then I’ll get back with a truthful answer.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 15, 2023 6:22 pm

Indolent I don’t like stone bench tops. I only have wood. It can be repaired, its easy to work with. A while back I was in Ikea, yes I know, aa certain benchtop no longer available was touched by every woman that looked at it while I was there. Not so with the others. Last year when I reno’d the kitchen in my beachhouse I put in wood. $3,200 for the panels. A day and half work to get the configuration right and would have cost $15k + to get it done by someone else. Terrazzo not being engineered stone will make a comeback, maybe.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2023 6:22 pm

A family is having dinner at the table one evening, when the son asks the father, “Dad, how many different kinds of boobs are there?”

The father is a little taken aback, but he ponders for a moment before answering.

“Well, my son, a woman goes through three phases in life. In her 20s, her breasts are like melons, round, and firm. In her 30s and 40s, they become like pears, still nice, but hanging a bit. But after 50, her breasts become like onions.”

The son is confused and asks, “Onions?” The father replies, “Yes, you see them and they make you cry.”

The wife and daughter are NOT amused by the father had said, so the daughter asks, “Mom, how many different kinds of penises are there?”

The mother smiles and says, “Well honey, a man also goes through three phases in life too. In his 20s, his willy is like an oak tree, mighty, strong and hard. In his 30s and 40s, it becomes more like a birch, flexible but reliable. But after 50, it’s like a Christmas tree.”

The daughter laughs. “A Christmas tree??” The mother replies, “Yes, dear. Dead from the root up and the balls are just for decoration.”

Digger
Digger
December 15, 2023 6:23 pm

Don Bradman
Steve Smith
Allan Border
Ricky Ponting
Greg Chappell
Matthew Hayden
Steve Waugh
David Warner
Michael Clarke
Adam Gilchrist

He only named the top ten so there is little gain in suggesting 3 or 4 others without suggesting who to remove… Hard to disagree with many of the suggestions and most, if not all, would be in the top 20 but Craddock is talking about the top 10….

Not withstanding his participation to the sandpaper incident, statistics show Warner is head and shoulders ahead of everyone else mentioned except Michael Hussey who comes close but his significant number of not outs because of where he batted sway the numbers. Warner opened the batting so he faced the brunt of every pace attack in the world and he excelled…

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 15, 2023 6:24 pm

Eggactly Thancho.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2023 6:25 pm

I have to hand it to Lethbridge, he’s nailed Miles perfectly. Thanks Tom for the toons this morning, I was thinking about his caricature of him during the day…now this:

Steven Miles sworn in as 40th Queensland Premier, naming climate action, reducing emissions as top priorities in the state (Sky News, 15 Dec)

Clean energy and climate action have been named as top priorities in Queensland as Steven Miles becomes the state’s new premier after being sworn in on Friday afternoon in the state’s Government House.

He was elected unopposed by the Labor caucus on Friday morning – following a backroom deal with Treasurer Cameron Dick and Health Minister Shannon Fentiman – and was sworn in by the afternoon by governor Jeannette Young.

Mr Miles was joined by Mr Dick, his new Deputy Premier, who was also elected unopposed.

Yep, Lethbridge got in first. Miles is a climate fairy.

miltonf
miltonf
December 15, 2023 6:25 pm

I’m going to gird my lions for the second day in a row and watch the slag preening her photographic knowledge,

what a trooper- I’d rather clean up after my dog did something

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2023 6:27 pm

Given the choice of sending Hussey or Warner in on the 2nd dig when you had to bat out the day for a draw I know who I would want, regardless of statistics.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 6:30 pm

Okay, I’ve watched it.

No interaction with Metadata, unless you count the video linking. All the rest looks like pretty straightforward numpty stuff.

Sorry. That derg probably won’t hunt.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2023 6:31 pm

affordable for the non-billionaire class.

And there we have it.

Air travel ditto.

We are fast approaching the “both the poor and the rich are barred from sleeping under bridges” and shooting out to ‘both the poor and the rich are free to buy marble benchtops and run their air conditioners all day”..

The scum have convinced themselves the intoning “market forces” and blaming capitalism absolves them from deliberately engineering price hikes for the plebs.

You want class hate, check out a uni mong decrying those tacky miners out earning them driving a truck.
We are overproducing highly miseducated midwits who think they are elites.
This doesnt end well.

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2023 6:35 pm

Steven Miles sworn in as 40th Queensland Premier, naming climate action, reducing emissions as top priorities in the state (Sky News, 15 Dec)

Chuckle.

That won’t win you the election, mate.

Dick is the brains of this outfit (no jokes…please.)

Winston Smith
December 15, 2023 6:36 pm

Dot

Dec 15, 2023 4:25 PM
Intriguing eyes.

Normally called crazy eyes.

No, they’re beautiful eyes – silver/grey. Entrancing.

Muddy
Muddy
December 15, 2023 6:37 pm

and was sworn in by the afternoon by governor Jeannette Young.

Ah, yes. The Destroyer of (several thousand) Lives, Vanquisher of Disposables, Social-Financial Pyromaniac (sick demon of delusion).

May the anguish of the remnants of my quality of life capture your sleep and never release, you vile, empathy-void of pathology and ego-pus.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 15, 2023 6:40 pm

That’s great news about Elsie, areff. She looks like a cutie. Good on ya , Winston!

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 15, 2023 6:43 pm

Watching Miles will be interesting. I looked at it some months ago and it seems Queensland burns roughly 20 million Tonnes of coal per annum. We export about 220 million tonnes. Doesn’t matter whether it is “thermal” or “metallurgical” coal. All but a small fraction alloyed with steel ends up as CO2.
First cut physics type numbers. Anyone got any better ones?

Alamak!
Alamak!
December 15, 2023 6:44 pm

No interaction with Metadata, unless you count the video linking. All the rest looks like pretty straightforward numpty stuff.

Sorry. That derg probably won’t hunt.

I switched on captions and fast forwarded through it, Calli. As expected, and like some images seen lately, no metadata to be found.

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 6:45 pm

Lisa’s defence of being a Canon mouthpiece….

I know sh*t about photography. I was following a script.

Same…same for Das Projekt.

Now give back the Logie, you horrible fraud.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2023 6:49 pm

First cut physics type numbers. Anyone got any better ones?

Eyrie, I’ve noticed that lefties aren’t very good with physics. Or chemistry. Nor even basic arithmetic.

It’s fun to present them with data, the result is terror.

Digger
Digger
December 15, 2023 6:50 pm

Winston
ALWAYS and I mean always operated by a 6’4? elderly Amazon who demonstrated how to use it by blowing a near vertical line in the first instant, and capable of “Keep goingkeepgoing” while you inverted your spasming diaphragm and wheezed your way to the end.

Brilliant – Never has a better description been given to the machine which brought a persons freckle so close to their throat…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2023 6:51 pm

South Australian Aphrodisiac.

Ladies, control your loins

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 15, 2023 6:53 pm

That’s great news about Elsie, areff. She looks like a cutie. Good on ya , Winston!

Being a white cat, and moving to tropics, it will need sunscreen on its ears and nose etc.

We had a white cat who got bad cancerous sores on his ears. Had to get most of his ears amputated. Looked like an old boxer or rugby prop.

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Sancho Panzer

No interaction with Metadata, unless you count the video linking. All the rest looks like pretty straightforward numpty stuff.

Sorry. That derg probably won’t hunt.

I agree.
Truth be told, despite the Toad’s 2015 tweets talking about Metadata I believe she probably doesn’t know what it is – at least by that name.
She went on to say she didn’t have Facebook, then corrected herself. There was an account opened in her name by Ten but it was operated by someone else, who took the password with them when they left Ten.
So it’s easily possible Toad’s oh-so-clever tweets in 2015 were ghost written, but she isn’t going to admit that.
It matters little.
That was just a bouncer at the start of play to get her on the back foot.
Whether she knows the term “Metadata” or not, I will bet she knows that smart-phone photos have “tags” which detail date and time of photo, maybe place (if geo-location on) and other techo details of the image.
She actually knew about date-stamps because she admitted as much about the miracle of the surviving leg bruise photo yesterday.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
December 15, 2023 6:56 pm

Who is this Raw Story mob who are up every day on our MSNBC start screens promulgating TDS and general anti-conservative misinformation stories?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 15, 2023 6:57 pm

the body of another murdered hostage has been retrieved, so much for the hostages where treated well.

Does the Israeli hangman get paid per head, or does he/she draw a salary?

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2023 7:00 pm

Zafiro
Dec 15, 2023 6:53 PM
That’s great news about Elsie, areff. She looks like a cutie. Good on ya , Winston!

Being a white cat, and moving to tropics, it will need sunscreen on its ears and nose etc.

We had a white cat who got bad cancerous sores on his ears. Had to get most of his ears amputated. Looked like an old boxer or rugby prop.

I would imagine corro between Winston and aref may well have decided the best option is to keep Elsie inside – unless Winston has a suitable outside enclosure. You are absolutely right about white cats, sunburn and cancer.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 15, 2023 7:03 pm

Who is this Raw Story mob who are up every day on our MSNBC start screens promulgating TDS and general anti-conservative misinformation stories?

A quick read of the wikipedia entry suggestsDeep Swamp propagandists

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 7:05 pm

Even I know that my iPad records date and place. And likewise, any images that I’m sent to save.

If I was given an image of a bit of flesh with no accompanying provenance except feelz, I’d be wondering.

Yet this is a hardened j’list dotcha know.

Delta A
Delta A
December 15, 2023 7:05 pm

Crossie, sending you wishes for a quick and complete recovery.

Awful time to be sick, what with Christmas shopping and catching up with friends. Hope you have someone to help you with all of this – or even making chicken soup, which I force upon anyone ailing in our family.

To divert you: I have just farewelled a car full of revellers who are participating in our little town’s Christmas celebrations. Pageant starting about now, with Daughter and Grandson dressed as angels (there’s a laugh right there!) walking beside a decorated trolley containing thousands of wooden angels*, which our cherubs give out to the quite significant crowd. They will wind their way down to the (mini) town centre, from thence to disperse and find a good possie for viewing the carols.

Aha! But we’ve done this for seven years now, and have learned a few lurks along the way. At 5:50 PM, two granddaughters select the optimum viewing spot for the carols: on the riverbank, directly in line with the stage. They spread out blankets large enough to acommodate our huge family (and a monster picnic basket) including the angels (still handing out treats) and a grandfather (Best Man )who is engrossed in setting up his video camera.

At about 7:30 PM, the family will have assembled in their prime viewing spots and will be cracking out that most wonderful picnic. Daughter has been working on it all day. Need I say more?

Then the carols begin. Granddaughter’s set is on last, as always. She is quite the drawcard. Following that, fireworks – quite safe after 80 mm of rain last week.

Sorry for the big post. I just wanted you to know that you are not alone, Crossie. For all our best efforts, I cannot join the fam for this fabulous night and so I sit here at home, alone apart from two doggies, one of whom has sparkling eyes and a thuggish grin.

🙂

Indolent
Indolent
December 15, 2023 7:06 pm
Alamak!
Alamak!
December 15, 2023 7:08 pm

Whether she knows the term “Metadata” or not, I will bet she knows that smart-phone photos have “tags” which detail date and time of photo, maybe place (if geo-location on) and other techo details of the image.

She probably does.

Not knowing all the ins & outs of digital forensics re phone camera images is reasonable. Not having an explanation for failure to verify the image via 10/team/expert/lawyer is kinda hmmm.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 15, 2023 7:09 pm

affordable for the non-billionaire class.
As many cats have added, I’ll also say red meat, motor cars, and political aspirations.
And timber benchtops I’ll agree are nicer, and important for a man of my advancing senses and patience, quieter. I hate rackety stone, tile and glass houses, and restaurants.
*add on Jarrah in general, WA’s very own renewable, whiteant-proof wunderfaber

Rafiki
Rafiki
December 15, 2023 7:12 pm

It looks very much like we won’t hear again from The Toad . Maybe the question of any legal advice will arise when Ten introduce 2 mire executive level witnesses who might deal with Wilkinson’s assertions that she was not a decision-maker. “Maybe” because I’m not sure.

But I think evidence from Fiona Brown is still likely. Should be fun for Cat threadsters.

Cassie of Sydney
December 15, 2023 7:12 pm

It’s a busy time at work and I haven’t been following the Lehrmann/Ten/Amphibian court proceedings. Can someone give me a quick wrap up?

calli
calli
December 15, 2023 7:14 pm

Let’s just say, Alamak, I wouldn’t risk my career and reputation on it.

But then I’m not the amphibian.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2023 7:15 pm

How phucking funny
I measure a political career on how the representatives we elect on a before/after set up.
So O’Neill, get out of the office right now.
Dreyfus get phucked.
Bowen get phucked.
Albo get phucked.
Dr Anne Webster get phucked.

No one of these charlatans have improved their electoric one iota.

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