Open Thread – Weekend 16 Dec 2023


Seeing Shepherds, Daniel Bonnell, 2010

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Digger
Digger
December 16, 2023 12:05 am

2nd day in a row on the starting blocks….

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 16, 2023 12:07 am

Oky doc am all eyes on the Warner tid bit…

Alamak!
December 16, 2023 12:21 am

bronze medallion to join the others …

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 16, 2023 12:22 am

About a year ago David Warner was at a school, consequent of the PR regime put up for some (but not all) of the Cricket Australia contracted players. Some players run net sessions at high schools, some go to bush towns and indig communities and so on. This is all between tours and other commitments, mind.

Warner was ‘asked’ to speak to a crew of Year 7 students in Sydney, with a corporate minder in tow. It was a low-key event that ticked a required box. No media.

He was asked by one of the kids ‘What’s the best thing about playing cricket for Australia?’

His answer was not ‘Seeing all the hard work and commitment pay off’, ‘pride in representing your country and everyone in it on the world stage’, ‘developing yourself and being around great people’, nor was it ‘the ability to be a role model for others’.

It was (according to this excellent source) – ‘Making lots of money.’

He then went on to remark that as far as he was concerned, school was a waste of time when you could just go out and be awesome at something and get rich. He concluded by listing the menagerie of exotic cars he owned.

No further questions were asked. Warner walked out.

Halfwit. Just a halfwit.

Alamak!
December 16, 2023 12:28 am

KD> what a piece of trash. money cannot buy class, thats for sure.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 16, 2023 12:32 am

Sixth Senseless

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 16, 2023 12:34 am

Hitler news – On This Day:

1942 – The Holocaust: Schutzstaffel chief Heinrich Himmler orders that Roma candidates for extermination be deported to Auschwitz.

Nice. Chuck ’em in with the Jews. But also:

1944 – World War II: The Battle of the Bulge begins with the surprise offensive of three German armies through the Ardennes forest.

A bit of a smack across the chops from the baddies, followed by a gigantic arse-whupping from the goodies, cleaning the filthy Boche out from the river to the sea*.

Hope springs eternal.

*Oder river to the North Sea.

JC
JC
December 16, 2023 12:53 am

What Oct 7 was designed to achieve was a return of ‘the Palestinian question’ back to centrestage of international attention given it had been sidelined over the last two decades and was increasingly being so with the Abraham Accords.

Seems like a typically stupid pali idea if true. The result is now that a decent part of Gaza is being turned into rubble and deservedly so. Way to get people’s attention around the world. If they haven’t got Saudi Arabia on side, and they haven’t, the strategy has turned into shit.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 16, 2023 1:23 am

ye olde fredde cat said to watch this IDF urban combat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-w2cJSYbqI

At 10:20 is the scene I call “Five AKs at Freddies”

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 16, 2023 1:51 am

#3 Jesus wins.

—-

Steve Inman:

Weekly Top 5

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 16, 2023 1:54 am

What Oct 7 was designed to achieve was a return of ‘the Palestinian question’ back to centrestage of international attention given it had been sidelined over the last two decades and was increasingly being so with the Abraham Accords.

Outrageous international terrorism worked for Arafat. He was invited to address the UN. So why wouldn’t Hamas calculate that outrageous slaughter and sexual torture of Jews would lead to a welcome by international organisations. They have a good understanding of the deep traditional hatred of Jews held by the civilised west, and understood how to return it to the surface.

That’s what has been revealed once again.

Bruce in WA
December 16, 2023 2:13 am

Take a heavy wooden walking stick. Get up against a wall, and go for the elbows and the knees.

My brother — retired-copper — recommends the point of the shoulder and the collarbone.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 16, 2023 2:13 am

That’s what has been revealed once again.

Just look at the “impartial” explanations for why it’s quite understandable to conduct a depraved sexual slaughter of Jews, to hold infants and grandparents as hostages, and accuse Jews of killing civilians that Hamas has purposefully placed as front line cannon fodder in the strategic design of their war. Yet all over the world, against that cynical murderous use of the people they supposedly represent, their strategy of causing mass murder of Arabs in Gaza is shafted onto Jewish communities elsewhere around the world. Hamas has a better understanding of the depth of antisemitism than the well meaning humanist post enlightenment west.

Bruce in WA
December 16, 2023 2:15 am

Or, if things are desperate (and only then), level with the top of the ear and about 2 cm in front of it.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 16, 2023 2:21 am

Obviosly not all in the west. But also much to obviously far too many in the west.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 16, 2023 2:38 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 4:14 am
The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
December 16, 2023 4:54 am

“For three years they told us it was the most secure election in history, and only deniers would question the result, but a simple poll of voters by the The Heartland Institute shows cheating was widespread in mail-in voting.” At Jo Nova’s.

We knew instantly that the election was fudged bigly, but most of the media have run cover for the fraudsters ever since. 2024 won’t be any better.

calli
calli
December 16, 2023 5:22 am

Sorry about the repeat. I don’t want Cats to think I dumped an apology at the end of the dead thread.

https://youtu.be/ylNZ7q5VOe0?t=90
https://youtu.be/ylNZ7q5VOe0?t=132

I see all sorts of metadata in the footer of the images she’s playing with.

Thanks Duncanm. I only viewed the videos linked on Rukshan’s tweet. I didn’t go hunting for additional Canon videos (didn’t know they existed).

These ones are far more sophisticated, and build a picture of LW being an accomplished photographer. And yes, she’s auditioning images with the metadata clearly visible in a side panel.

In other words, she’s being mendacious before the court. There’s a word for that.

And my sincere apologies to Rukshan for doubting his assertion. I did it based on insufficient information that he provided, but at the end of the day he is right and I was wrong.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 16, 2023 5:26 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 16, 2023 5:30 am

Thank you Tom

KevinM
KevinM
December 16, 2023 5:41 am

And yes, she’s auditioning images with the metadata clearly visible in a side panel.

Should this be pointed out to the defense or do they know about it and think it’s unimportant?

I loved to see her face when confronted with facts.

calli
calli
December 16, 2023 5:47 am

They might be giving her the weekend to think it over. They’d know. The videos are in the public domain. She can hardly set herself up as a “mummie photographer ambassador” for Canon – hey, it’s easy for everyone to take professional looking photos using an SLR, to dunno nuffink.

They’ll be workshopping her response this morning over brunch. Busy day in the Mosman mansion.

calli
calli
December 16, 2023 5:52 am

And Matrix…glad to see you’ve tracked down your Dad. Poor old fellow.

A word from the recently robbed, give him a big hug, don’t hold back.

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2023 5:53 am

Internationally, Israel is increasingly isolated and there is going to be increasing pressure for a political solution.

It just amazes me that the world tolerates tens of thousands of civilian deaths in Syria etc but Israel is being blamed for every civilian death in Gaza despite Hamas’s own deadly reign of terror via their own thousands of misfired rockets and failure to protect Gazans from the retribution they
knew would be coming not yo mention the swallowing whole of Hamas ‘ministry of health’ casualty figures.
In every other conflict people have been able to flee outside borders but Egypt steadfastly refuses to allow that to happen.
Israel has set up humanitarian corridors and safe zones within Gaza, facilitating the movement of aid into Gaza, put the lives of IDF soldiers on the line to reduce civilian casualties.
Israel is the the progressive left
and muslim world’s scapegoat.

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2023 5:54 am

The political solution cannot include Hamas.
Why isn’t the world pressuring hamas to surrender?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2023 5:56 am

To play Devil’s Advocate, it’s possible the photograph was set up by someone (from Canon?) and Wilkinson just turned up with no idea what she was dealing with or what it was called. The J’ismist as Celebrity. I’m sure it wouldn’t be the first time on Breakfast TV. Sorry Kochie.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2023 5:59 am

If presented as evidence by counsel, the Judge can make an assessment of the likelihood of that scenario. That’s why they are paid the big bucks.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
December 16, 2023 6:00 am

Next up after the fudged election came the January 6th Fed-surrection.
Lara Logan has been delving into the sordid story of how FBI assets were inserted into the crowd after alighting from the “ghost buses” – badly sprayed in white all over, with no markings. Ex Louisiana cop now congressman is on the case.

calli
calli
December 16, 2023 6:05 am

Quite so, Bear. Embarrassing for her, being an “expert” and all.

Thing is, you don’t have to look far on your camera’s dashboard to access the metadata, regardless of computer editing software for later use. On the Canon, it’s a quick flick of a button and there it all is.

Beertruk
December 16, 2023 6:16 am

Curses…comment in moderation.

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2023 6:18 am
Beertruk
December 16, 2023 6:24 am

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Vikki Campion in today’s Tele:

FARMERS’ ACTION MUST BE SITTING IN WRONG
CLASS

Vikki Campion
16 Dec 2023

😉

shatterzzz
December 16, 2023 6:33 am

No further questions were asked. Warner walked out.

Ya can take the boy out of “houso” but ya can’t take “houso” out of the boy .. LOL!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 6:37 am

Haha, this’ll be fun.

Biden Tells Federal Employees To Use EVs And Trains On Official Travel (16 Dec)

The Biden Administration is directing Federal agencies to prioritize the use of sustainable transportation such as electric vehicles and trains for official travel, as part of efforts to build a clean transportation future, the White House said in new guidelines.

A fair number of loopholes in the policy so the bureaucrats should find ways to avoid a lot of it. But the US government just may have to establish a towing service for poor marooned public serpents whose battery has gone flat. Especially in winter if they try to use the heater.

C’mon Mr Bowen, now’s the time to replace the Com Car fleet with electrics! You know you want to.

shatterzzz
December 16, 2023 6:46 am

Coupla weeks ago I mentioned that I’d been hammered with an $18.75 a week quarterly water assessment thru NSW “houso” up from, my usual, OAP average of $2 to $3 a week .. anywayz after “expressing” my “unhappiness” to the minister’s office, yesterday, the result came thru …
“Clerical error” .. revised charge .. $2.40 a week and a $47 credit to my water account ..!
If I had of said nuttin’ and just coughed up they’d have happily pocket-ed the increase rip-off without a 2nd thought …….. furglewitz! ……….

Petros
Petros
December 16, 2023 6:47 am

So will Vlad take all of the Ukraine?

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2023 6:49 am
shatterzzz
December 16, 2023 6:54 am

What Oct 7 was designed to achieve was a return of ‘the Palestinian question’ back to centrestage of international attention given it had been sidelined over the last two decades and was increasingly being so with the Abraham Accords.

Personally I think, it is a lot simpler than that .. It was HAMASisis doing what HAMASisis does .. hatred of Jews .. but now it’s backfiring, biggly, all the apologists are scrambling for excuses ..!
There are NO excuses ,, the answer should have been, as the Daleks say, “Exterminate, exterminate” .. Luckily for HAMASisis the Israelis don’t have the same mind-set and there will be Gaza survivors .. pity but there it is ……….. F**K ‘EM …….!

Beertruk
December 16, 2023 7:01 am

Paywallion:

‘Lazy, and perhaps politically expedient’: Judge lashes DPP over rape cases

By NATASHA ROBINSON
HEALTH EDITOR
10:09PM DECEMBER 15, 2023

A NSW judge has called for the “lazy and perhaps politically ­expedient” referrals of baseless rape accusations to the court to stop after the case of a man who spent eight months on remand in jail and faced a jury trial despite never committing a crime.

The “deep level of concern” over the abrogation of the prosecutor’s duty to interrogate complainants’ allegations – raising the risk of false convictions – has been exposed in a NSW District Court case in which a man faced trial despite clear evidence the sex he had with the alleged victim was consensual.

The woman had alleged the man sexually assaulted her, ­because she was so drunk she had a blackout and could not ­remember the events, despite it being clear she had “enthusiastically participated” in sex and consent was obtained every step of the way.

The man spent eight months in prison before eventually being granted bail and then acquitted by a jury on December 4.

In an application for a costs certificate following the trial, it was revealed the complainant had made five virtually identical allegations against other men. But a much-criticised piece of NSW legislation that fails to provide exceptions to admit tendency evidence relating to prior sexual history largely prevented the jury from knowing about the pattern of accusation. Had the jury known, the accused would have been “acquitted within minutes”, according to District Court judge Robert Newlinds.

His excoriating judgment granting a costs order, which is causing shockwaves at the NSW criminal bar, has exposed concern within the judiciary and among criminal lawyers as to the impact of the MeToo movement on the Office of the Director of Public Prosecution’s assessment of sexual assault cases, with a pattern emerging in which prosecutors take a reflexive “believe the victim” stance, and prefer to let the jury decide rather than discontinue hopeless cases.

“I think the prosecution took the lazy and perhaps politically expedient course of identifying that the complainant alleged she had been sexually assaulted and without properly considering the question of whether there was any evidence to support that allegation, and just prosecuted so as to let the jury decide,” Judge Newlinds said in the costs judgment.

“This must stop. Justice has not been served and will not be served by repeated cases being ­prosecuted based on obviously flawed evidence.”

The accused, who was given the pseudonym Mr Martinez by the court, faced trial in late November after being charged in June 2021 with four counts of sexual intercourse without consent. He was initially refused bail, which was then granted eight months later by the NSW Supreme Court.

The charges arose after Mr Martinez, who identifies as non-binary and prefers to use the pronoun “they”, had sex with the complainant, who was a friend. The complainant had had a lot to drink, but the evidence indicated the woman had initiated sex and participated enthusiastically in four occasions of intercourse.

During a conversation the next day, when the complainant, who had little memory of the evening, asked what had happened, Mr Martinez indicated they had ­obtained consent continually throughout the sexual activity and understood consent was provided.

Evidence before the court indicated those experiencing alcoholic blackouts, especially seasoned drinkers, may not appear seriously intoxicated to people with whom they were interacting, and can be capable of presenting rationally and coherently, and performing ordinary tasks. However, due to her alcoholic blackout the complainant formed the view she had not consented, and made a criminal complaint to police – something she had done in almost identical circumstance on four previous occasions.

Judge Newlinds said, although the complainant’s belief she had been sexually assaulted was genuine, it was pursuant to “her own idiosyncratic definition of sexual assault”, based on “a misguided understanding of the law to the effect that if a person cannot remember having sex with someone else that equates to sexual assault”.

Prosecutors did not challenge or rationally interrogate the woman’s view, and based their case on an incorrect interpretation of the law, telling the jury that if a person was severely intoxicated, they were not capable of consent. In fact, a finding of serious intoxication is simply one factor a jury can take into account. “In my ­judgment (the accused) did not commit any crime and should never have been prosecuted,” Judge Newlinds said. “This prosecution is a miscarriage of justice. The evidence did not, in any realistic way, ever demonstrate any prospect of the crown obtaining a conviction.

“I do wish to record that I am left with a deep level of concern that there is some sort of unwritten policy or expectation in place in the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions of this state to the ­effect that if any person alleges that they have been the subject of some sort of sexual assault then that case is prosecuted without a sensible and rational interrogation of that complainant so as to at least be satisfied that they have a reasonable basis for making that allegation, which would include to at least being satisfied that the complainant has a correct understanding of the legal definition of sexual assault or sexual intercourse without consent.

“If no effort was made to work that out, then the prosecutor failed to perform the important role of filtering hopeless cases out of the system and has thus been the primary cause of this applicant spending eight months in jail for a crime he did not commit.”

During the trial, the complainant’s history of accusing men of rape in similar circumstances was largely not allowed into evidence due to section 294CB of the Evidence Act in NSW, which forbids tendency evidence that goes to a complainant’s sexual history from being placed before a jury.

Unlike in other states, the NSW legislation has no exception provision. Judge Newlinds echoed other judges in saying there was “a serious need for law reform in this regard”. “I do think that the trial was unfair because the applicant was not able to put before the jury the true history of the complainant’s complaints thus putting into context all of her evidence and the circumstances of her conduct before the jury,” the judge said.

“If the jury had known the full picture of the complainant’s history of accusing men of rape in similar circumstances, the time of deliberation would have been measured in minutes. Knowing what I know now, I have concluded that it was not possible for the applicant to have a fair trial without the introduction of the evidence of those other complaints.

“I think I am entitled to infer that within the Office of the DPP those various cases (of similar accusation) are all known. If no one in the DPP has ‘joined the dots’, someone should do that now. This must stop. Justice has not been served and will not be served by repeated cases being prosecuted based on the obviously flawed evidence of the complainant.”

Another man accused by the same complainant was recently also found not guilty by a jury in a case described by one senior legal figure as “a farce”. Two other men accused by the same woman are still before the courts.

NATASHA ROBINSON HEALTH EDITOR

JC
JC
December 16, 2023 7:03 am

Is it? It’s now front and centre. They’ve drawn the Axis of Resistance into the conflict.

Who is this axis of resistance? You keep inferring those towel heads are some sort of sophisticated world power.

Saudi Arabia is small beer here. They can’t even defeat Yemen.

I wasn’t referring to military assistance as the Saudi military can only operate in air-conditioning. However, Saudi Arabia is leads the Sunnis in a religious and economic context. And other than mounting platitudes the Saudi aren’t exactly frothing at the mouth in support.

BTW, what does on-side mean here? Saudis would never intervene militarily so the only thing on-side could mean is politically/ diplomatically/ and economically.

I’d even leave the economic side out actually.

Well, they support and voted for a ceasefire in the General Assembly this week.

You really think that’s big cheese though?

The only other sense could be economically, say supporting an oil embargo of Israel.

Israel is an exporter of natural gas and if things become worse the US will supply it with its oil needs until it becomes self sufficient. There’s plenty of oil around anyway after witnessing the recent price drop, so you shouldn’t worry your pretty little head about Israel’s energy security. Worry about ours.

Time will tell. Internationally, Israel is increasingly isolated and there is going to be increasing pressure for a political solution.

Israel is always isolated to some degree, so no biggie.

I have a death count in mind before things get really hot for Israel. My number is 50k dead. I think they’re around 15K odd at the moment so there’s a way to go.

shatterzzz
December 16, 2023 7:05 am

The only other sense could be economically, say supporting an oil embargo of Israel. Time will tell. Internationally, Israel is increasingly isolated and there is going to be increasing pressure for a political solution.

There isn’t going to be any “oil embargo” or any kind of sanctions cos .. simples … any problems for Israel willhave a knock-on effect in Gaza/West Bank and ..
GOD FORBID .. will anyone vote to “punish” the” poor” Palis ……?
2ndly 149 tin-pot nations voting “nasty” Israel, again, in the UN is no different to what they do, weekly, now .. US, Britain, even France may waffle the “take-it-easy” line, publically, but behind the scenes like 93 other countries they are jazz-handing Israel …….

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 7:06 am

KD at 12:22.
That is what the “my turn on the bike” sooking about not being made ODI or T20 captain was all about.
Profile, sponsorships and money.

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2023 7:19 am
JC
JC
December 16, 2023 7:19 am

Dover

You keep inferring those towel heads are some sort of sophisticated world power.

I was referring to Iran.

Look, even Russia doesn’t like the Iranians much and you said this week that Russia has shared interests with Iran. No they don’t. Russia couldn’t give a shit about Iran other than using them over the Ukraine invasion. China does, but China has no ability to help these arseholes because its navy can’t stretch out that far. The only assistance these two could offer Iran is voting at the UN in calling out the US as a big bad boogeyman. Scary as hell, I know.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 16, 2023 7:21 am

Get in quick!
The newest release Claas header on the farm yesterday for demos around VIC.
750 hp Man motor
60-70 t/h in wheat at 11-13 Km/h
Auto adjust on everything
Possible laser beams.
1.5 mill plus gst.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 7:21 am

During the trial, the complainant’s history of accusing men of rape in similar circumstances was largely not allowed into evidence due to section 294CB of the Evidence Act in NSW, which forbids tendency evidence that goes to a complainant’s sexual history from being placed before a jury.

That is not sexual history.
It is a history of making complaints.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 7:23 am

Farmer Gez

Dec 16, 2023 7:21 AM

Get in quick!
The newest release Claas header on the farm yesterday for demos around VIC.

What colours does it come in?

JC
JC
December 16, 2023 7:24 am

Dover, Iran is the equivalent of Wodney Woddenhead in Middle East affairs. Just an annoying, sneaky pos with the attributes of smelly, dead skunk on the side of the road. When you were in the US, did you ever go driving and caught a whiff of a skunk? You could have the windows closed and the airflow would cause the smell to seep into the cabin. FMD, it’s revolting. That’s Iran and….

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
December 16, 2023 7:24 am

It’s deja vu all over again in Gaza City – Falluja style – house to house. Some gunfight video via Powerline.

JC
JC
December 16, 2023 7:27 am

rosie
Dec 16, 2023 7:19 AM

Jan Cameron in a spot of bother.

Jan? It’s a bloke, right? The pics suggest it’s a bloke.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 7:28 am

H B Bear

Dec 16, 2023 5:56 AM

To play Devil’s Advocate, it’s possible the photograph was set up by someone (from Canon?) and Wilkinson just turned up with no idea what she was dealing with or what it was called.

Having heard the evidence from the witness, I am alive to the possibility that ignorance may be in play.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 16, 2023 7:28 am

Steve, thanks for the Bloodsport theme.
Study room in high school turned into JCVD room far too often.
But that chap should really send a few bucks to Jan Hammer.
Not saying he stole his work, but definitely “inspired” by him.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 16, 2023 7:37 am

Re Jan Cameron.
People have been jailed in Oz for this kind of behaviour before.
On a lot smaller scale as well.

Cassie of Sydney
December 16, 2023 7:44 am

During the trial, the complainant’s history of accusing men of rape in similar circumstances was largely not allowed into evidence due to section 294CB of the Evidence Act in NSW, which forbids tendency evidence that goes to a complainant’s sexual history from being placed before a jury.

Doesn’t the public have a right to know the name of this mendacious female?

shatterzzz
December 16, 2023 7:44 am

Bloody hell! .. Oz Post take a bow ….!
Bought something on Ebay yesterday morning and delivered this morning ..
Melbourne to Sydney ………
Unbelievable ……..!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 7:45 am

feelthebern

Dec 16, 2023 7:37 AM

Re Jan Cameron.
People have been jailed in Oz for this kind of behaviour before.

She might enjoy that.
Oh, come on, we’ve all seen those “ladies jailhouse” movies.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 16, 2023 7:46 am

The AFR View

Votes at the UN are not for the home gallery

Voting for a one-sided Gaza resolution for domestic political reasons just betrays our foreign policy principles and costs us practical influence.

The one clear-cut political success for the Albanese government has been its foreign policy, and an astute handling of China, the US, AUKUS, the Quad, and our Asian and Pacific neighbours.

This week, that diplomatic sure-footedness ended up in a heap on the floor of the United Nations.

On Tuesday, the prime ministers of Australia, Canada and New Zealand had issued a joint statement urging Israel not to make massive Palestinian casualties the price of crushing Hamas, but equally unflinching in condemning the terrorists themselves.

Hours later, all three seemed to undercut their effort by then voting for a completely one-sided UN resolution that called for an immediate ceasefire with no reference at all to Hamas and its atrocities on October 7.

Australia had backed an earlier amendment from the Americans to include Hamas in the resolution.

But when that failed, Australia voted for the original resolution anyway.

Why didn’t we just abstain like 23 others including Germany, Italy, Netherlands and the UK?

The vote flies in the face of declining to vote for a similar UN resolution in October.

It flies in the face of Australia’s long-standing policy of supporting a two-state solution to end the impasse in Palestine, not the one-state solution of eliminating Israel favoured by Hamas – the combatant that would be aided by a ceasefire while Israeli hostages go unmentioned.

Backing a resolution that ignores October 7 flies in the face of the carefully weighed statement by Anthony Albanese and five former prime ministers in October calling for solidarity with both Jews and Palestinians, and for Israel to defeat Hamas while protecting Palestinian lives.

Trying to walk down both sides of the street is not possible

The only explanation for this shambles is the need to placate the ALP’s left and fend off Green challenges in inner-city seats.

It’s hard not to agree with Liberal MP Julian Leeser that this is more about Grayndler than Gaza.

The vote seems to have been sprung as a surprise by Mr Albanese and Foreign Minister Penny Wong in the hope that the issue would then quickly go away.

Instead the government has fallen into the wedge.

By pandering to domestic politics it has squandered both foreign policy principles and any practical effect Australia might have.

Whatever moral voice we had to restrain Israel after Australia’s political elders stood with them in October must be vanishing now.

US President Joe Biden is now putting serious pressure on Israel to end its campaign quickly, but Senator Wong will now have far less clout to add to that pressure when she visits Israel early in the new year.

Nor is the domestic reward that great.

It is hard to balance noisy minorities with their social media warriors, flags and mass rallies who are basically irreconcilable.

And the mass of voters, as British Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn found out, dislike other peoples’ fights being brought into their domestic politics and recoil from the whiff of extremism that comes with it.

Trying to walk down both sides of the street is not possible.

Boris Johnson, who for all his other failings led from the front on Ukraine, told The Australian Financial Review Business Person of the Year Award dinner on Thursday that moral clarity around the attack on Israel is being lost.

There is no equivalence between the bloodthirsty Hamas terrorist attack on the Jewish nation it seeks to eliminate and what the Israeli armed forces are doing in preventing it happening again, he says. “If we lose that moral clarity, then we are all in trouble”, he says.

A point will come where it is hard to balance the horrendous suffering of Palestinian civilians with even the best of Israeli intentions.

But Hamas could end this by giving up the Israeli hostages, dropping its aim of eliminating the Israeli nation, and negotiating.

But players like Hamas and the extremist Israeli settler movement have no interest in ending this conflict, and – as the joint Australian, Canadian, and New Zealand statement usefully reminds – no place in a peaceful future on the same land.

Grappling with them, and putting a two-state solution back on the table, rather than pandering to one-sided symbolic resolutions in the UN, is how this must finish.

JC
JC
December 16, 2023 7:47 am

Huge story in the Economist written by a former editor of the NYTimes who was fired for allowing GOPer Tom Cotton’s opinion piece to be published.

When the New York Times lost its way
America’s media should do more to equip readers to think for themselves

Cassie of Sydney
December 16, 2023 7:49 am

So, a woman is a victim even when she lies through her teeth?

Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2023 7:56 am

House Moves to Impeach Joe Biden

“In a 221-212 vote, the House of Representatives voted on a resolution to produce a formal inquiry into the impeachment of Joe Biden. Every Republican supported the measure. Perhaps those in the middle had a change of heart after Biden invited Zelensky back to Washington to tell politicians how they should vote and spend their money. His son Hunter’s ongoing case is only revealing the depths of Joe Biden’s corruption.

New House Speaker Mike Johnson has made good on his promise to clean up Washington. He helped to release tens of thousands of hours of footage from January 6 that has been kept from the public. Republicans now have 35,000 pages of the Biden’s personal financial records, 36 hours of witness interviews, and 2,000 pages of records from the Treasury Department. It is astonishing that the establishment claims there is no evidence of wrongdoing.

Some may recall the video above from 2016 where Biden brags about wielding unlimited power. In the clip, Biden admits that he has Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin fired for investigating Burisma, where his son was allegedly employed. Biden bribed Ukraine by withholding US aid until the prosecutor was fired. In this odd world, Donald Trump was actually reprimanded for simply questioning Biden’s bribery scheme.

Flight records show that Hunter flew on Air Force Two over 400 times while his dad was in office. There are countless emails and text messages to Hunter Biden asking him to give their best to his father or thanking him for introducing them to his famous father. There are messages between business associates reminding them not to bring up Joe Biden’s name.

“Don’t mention Joe being involved, it’s only when u are face to face, I know u know that but they are paranoid,” one message read. We have Hunter’s WhatsApp messages where he uses his father’s name to secure business deals using threats. ““I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction,” the message read. The laptop from hell provided prosecutors with a treasure chest of evidence against Joe Biden.

The laptop contains the infamous email from a Chinese energy company executive from CEFC where they discuss how much to pay off each Biden, including “10% held by H for the big guy.” Tony Bobulinski who was involved in that deal has confirmed that Joe Biden was “the big guy.” There is even a paper trail leading back to Joe Biden provided by the only bank willing to work with GOP investigation committees.

Cathay Bank revealed that Rob Walker, a Biden family associate, received a $3 million payment from a Chinese firm. Walker distributed these funds to the Bidens the following day. The alleged payments were made to Hunter Biden for $610,692; the president’s brother James Biden for $360,000; Hunter’s mistress and wife of deceased son Beau, Hallie Biden, for $25,000; last of all, $70,000 was paid to an unknown Biden. Twelve additional transactions are currently under investigation.

The POTUS has been compromised, and the powerful elite will not let him fall. The FBI has obstructed US law to protect Joe Biden from persecution. We know without a doubt that the FBI purposely spread misinformation regarding the Steele Dossier hoax. The FBI threatened social media platforms ahead of the 2020 US Election to prevent them from allowing any discussion of Hunter Biden’s laptop, which contains his illegal dealings in Ukraine, Romania, and China. The FBI is a completely corrupt agency that has become Biden’s personal Gestapo.

Time will tell if the US legal system actually impeached Joe Biden. There are likely other impeachable offenses not listed, such as increasing America’s population by 20% by allowing a deliberate invasion at the southern border. The evidence is overwhelming, as are the consequences of selling out the nation to the highest bidder.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/house-moves-to-impeach-joe-biden/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 16, 2023 7:57 am

I’m only catching up on this.
Earlier this week, JD Vance introduced a bill in the Senate to tax all non-religious endowments over $US10bill at 35%.
Zero chance of getting up but will annoy the donor class.

132andBush
132andBush
December 16, 2023 8:00 am

Get in quick!
The newest release Claas header on the farm yesterday for demos around VIC.

I reckon I drove past that yesterday.

duncanm
duncanm
December 16, 2023 8:00 am

With the Wilkinson train knocking a few cars aside at the crossing – unbeknown to the driver – can we expect the shadowy Mr Sharaz to be called to give evidence next week?

I must say – Pirate Pete’s wife has never before provided such entertainment. She should be in the black comedy ‘biz… Pete and Liz strike me as Queenie and Lord Melchett substitutes.

calli
calli
December 16, 2023 8:02 am

Thank goodness for that. I thought you’d died in your sleep!

Bruce
Bruce
December 16, 2023 8:02 am

How to do a legal commentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLwIXHHxZ-c

JC
JC
December 16, 2023 8:03 am

Wodney, do you mind asking Marty to get Socrates to spit out where the 10 year bond price will be next Wednesday 11.03 am NY time as I’m thinking for shorting bonds next week. It’s the bond price, not yield. Thanks.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 16, 2023 8:03 am

Steven Miles sworn in as 40th Queensland Premier, naming climate action, reducing emissions as top priorities in the state

Steven Miles has been officially sworn in as Queensland’s 40th Premier on Friday afternoon, where he named climate action as a top priority, committing to reduce emissions in the state by 75 per cent by 2030.

Bianca Bongato – Digital Reporter

From the Comments

– So in other words he will sit on his butt and waste our taxes on something he can’t fix while our ambulances continue to get ramped at hospitals, youth crime continues unabated, education standards go backwards, and our bills increase, while getting paid an exorbitant amount of money. Sounds familiar.

– From the boiling pot to the fire goes QLD.

– Labor committing to insane targets 10 years ahead means they arrogantly assume they will still be in power?!

– Another climate puppet! So interesting to see how this nonsense plays out. How much of this will the public take?

– The only change we need is from these idiots!!

– Climate change is the agenda when the party hasn’t any ideas or policy to address real matters like rising crime, cost of living, energy, open and honest government, and when the poles show the party is heading for defeat. The albanese government is in a similar mess, they had the Voice and when rejected they have gone back to climate change and this clown is following federal labor.
Goes to show they don’t care about the state but will do and say anything to remain on the government benches.

– That took him no time at all to do nothing of substance. Definitely one for the record book.

– Their priorities in full view. Green preferences and retaining power first. Real issues second

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 16, 2023 8:03 am

Gotta laugh about Jan Cameron, recall She got $160mil for Kathmandu and lost 3/4 of it on hairbrained green schemes. Some business woman?

Digger
Digger
December 16, 2023 8:04 am

He then went on to remark that as far as he was concerned, school was a waste of time when you could just go out and be awesome at something and get rich. He concluded by listing the menagerie of exotic cars he owned.

Perhaps a video of that would validate it but without it, it is jst hear say.

If the list was about morals or smarts or ethics, Warner would be at the bottom… It was not. It was about batting prowess and he is number 3 in the ALL-TIME list of run makers for Australia…. EVER. He will be number 2 when he gets another 19 runs.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 8:04 am

JC

Dec 16, 2023 7:27 AM

rosie
Dec 16, 2023 7:19 AM

Jan Cameron in a spot of bother.

Jan? It’s a bloke, right? The pics suggest it’s a bloke.

Why hide the shares in the Dutch Caribbean when she could have just stuffed them down her cottontails?

duncanm
duncanm
December 16, 2023 8:07 am

H B Bear
Dec 16, 2023 5:56 AM
To play Devil’s Advocate, it’s possible the photograph was set up by someone (from Canon?) and Wilkinson just turned up with no idea what she was dealing with or what it was called.

Of course it was – but what does she do?

Expose herself as a no-brain celeb-for-hire, or protect her brand by lying in court?

She picks the most selfish and destructive path, of course.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 16, 2023 8:10 am

‘Arrogance on a grand scale’: Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan attacked for avoiding scrutiny after cost blowout announcement

Patrick Hannaford – Digital Reporter

Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan has been accused of attempting to avoid scrutiny after announcing a major infrastructure cost blowouts and soaring new debt figures.

On Friday Premier Allan revealed the cost of Victoria’s most expensive road project – the North East Link – has blown out by $10.3 billion, while a budget update released by Treasurer Tim Pallas showed state debt soaring to almost $180 billion by 2026-26 – a $6.4 billion increase since May.

After 3AW host Heidi Murphy revealed the Premier, Transport Minister Danny Pearson and Treasurer Tim Pallas had all refused to come on her program to discuss the blowouts, Opposition Leader John Pesutto accused Ms Allan of displaying “arrogance on a grand scale”.

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 16, 2023 8:10 am

Jan Cameron in a spot of bother.

Jan? It’s a bloke, right? The pics suggest it’s a bloke.

I’m familiar with men who look like old lesbians. But old lesbians who look like men?

calli
calli
December 16, 2023 8:12 am

Around 18 years ago, prior to the Kathmandu/Greens connection going public, I bought a Kathmandu travel bag…cross body pouch style with magnetic clasps.

It has gone with me on every overseas trip since – a great piece of kit. Full of little zip compartments and pockets. Even goes through the washing machine when I get it home.

The only thing I have ever bought from the place.

Figures
Figures
December 16, 2023 8:12 am

Earlier this week, JD Vance introduced a bill in the Senate to tax all non-religious endowments over $US10bill at 35%.
Zero chance of getting up but will annoy the donor class.

If the Right treated its enemies (who are also the enemies of civilization) the way the left treats its enemies, there would be no left.

Even if these policies aren’t successful they get normies thinking about why the left suddenly object being subjected to their own policies?

As I said before, Dutton needs to hold a referendum on prohibiting communists from owning property. The vote won’t matter so much as the campaign itself will completely demoralise the left.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 16, 2023 8:12 am

Jan Cameron.
The animal justice warrior.
The preacher is in the hen house.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 8:15 am

Evidence before the court indicated those experiencing alcoholic blackouts, especially seasoned drinkers, may not appear seriously intoxicated to people with whom they were interacting, and can be capable of presenting rationally and coherently, and performing ordinary tasks. However, due to her alcoholic blackout the complainant formed the view she had not consented, and made a criminal complaint to police – something she had done in almost identical circumstance on four previous occasions.

Evidence?
From who?
Some self-appointed expert who can be called upon to diagnose this condition when, say, a woman is caught on CCTV removing her heels without toppling and walking a straight line down a hallway, but moments later is “10/10 schoolies drunk”.
And conveniently be in a total haze about all details except for crystal clear recollections of dastardly things said and done by her alleged attacker.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 16, 2023 8:16 am

US interest rates

Top Federal Reserve officials try to dampen expectations of imminent interest rate cuts

Comments come two days after US central bank’s dovish outlook sparked stock and bond rally

Top Federal Reserve officials have tried to temper market speculation about imminent interest rate cuts, warning that the US central bank needed to see more progress on inflation before considering lowering borrowing costs.

The comments from New York Fed president John Williams and Atlanta’s Raphael Bostic — both voting members on the Federal Open Market Committee next year — come just days after the Fed sparked a surge in US stocks and bonds after it signalled it was done with rate rises and was now debating when to begin cutting.

“We aren’t really talking about rate cuts right now,” said Williams in an interview with CNBC.

“One thing we’ve learned even over the past year is that the data can move in surprising ways. We need to be ready to tighten policy further if the progress on inflation were to stall or reverse,” he said.

Bostic echoed the message in an interview with Reuters on Friday, saying that rate cuts were not “an imminent thing” and that the first cuts could come “sometime in the third quarter” of 2024.

The central bank this week released projections showing that Fed officials were now pencilling in 0.75 percentage points worth of cuts next year — a quarter-point more than they projected in September — and another full percentage point decrease in 2025.

Williams, who is a close ally of Fed chair Jay Powell, stopped short of saying that the current benchmark rate of 5.25 per cent to 5.5 per cent — a 22-year high — was “sufficiently restrictive”, but acknowledged that, with inflation coming down, unemployment low and growth solid, the Fed was likely to be either “at or near” that threshold.

Financial markets in recent days have increasingly priced in a rate cut as early as March and a full percentage point decline in rates by the end of 2024.

The fall in Treasury yields has already cut the cost of capital and loosened financial conditions.

Williams said it was “premature to be even thinking” about a March start to cuts, but acknowledged that it would be appropriate to lower interest rates as the economy came into better balance and inflation fell further.

In terms of his outlook, Bostic said he expected inflation, as measured by the personal consumption expenditures price index, to fall to about 2.4 per cent by the end of 2024, enabling the Fed to implement two quarter-point cuts.

Speaking with The Wall Street Journal on Friday, Austan Goolsbee, president of the Chicago Fed, struck a slightly more cautious tone about the outlook and did not rule out his support for a March cut.

“It’s clear we’re moving more toward a balanced environment, and as we do that, and as inflation comes down, we’ve got to think about how restrictive do we want to be and are there dangers on the employment side of the mandate,” Goolsbee said.

Russ Koesterich, a portfolio manager at BlackRock, said the surge in bonds and stocks after Wednesday’s Fed meeting suggested the market was getting ahead of itself.

“Our base case is not that the Fed is going to cut in March.

That’s one place where we think the market has been too aggressive.

And you had some evidence for that from Williams today,” he said. “We think a cut is more likely in late spring or early summer. So that is one place we think the market got a little bit ahead of itself.”

Projections from the Congressional Budget Office, an independent agency, released on Friday showed the US avoiding a recession next year, but output slowing from 2.5 per cent in 2023 to 1.5 per cent in 2024.

Labour market conditions would soften next year and unemployment would edge up, the CBO’s outlook showed, while inflation “continues to slow over the next two years and approaches the Federal Reserve’s target rate of 2 per cent”.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 16, 2023 8:25 am

After the atrocity video, Cuomo style

Chris Cuomo has reappeared with his own show on NewsNation. Leland Vittert has his own show over there as well. When I met Leland in the lobby of our hotel in Tuscaloosa, I told him one of my friends appreciated his uncompromising view of the Israel-Hamas war. He told me in his engaging style that he sees it as a matter of right and wrong. I was impressed with the whole NewsNation crew that I met at the GOP debate event, including the team behind the scenes.

Like me, Chris Cuomo took in a viewing of the 10/7 atrocity video courtesy of the Israeli consulate this week.

In his monologue about it last night, he made some points that I overlooked.

Posted here at NewsNation in unembeddable form, his commentary is most perceptive.

Hats off to him for this. Vote for Cuomo, not the Joe Schmoe.

Eylon Levy
@EylonALevy

This is an astonishing monologue, straight from @ChrisCuomo
’s heart after he watched the Hamas 10/7 atrocity videos and suddenly everything made sense.

Please make time to watch this.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 8:26 am

Of course it was – but what does she do?

Expose herself as a no-brain celeb-for-hire, or protect her brand by lying in court?

Quite so.
The tweets from 2015 talking about metadata were, in all probability, ghost written.
She admitted she had a Facebook page opened by Ten but operated by someone else.
But to admit she is a clueless fake “brand ambassador” damages her last remaining income stream of celebrity endorsements.

JC
JC
December 16, 2023 8:27 am

AI wrote this. Not bad.

Dear Mr. Armstrong,

I trust this email finds you bathed in the celestial glow of your economic brilliance, surrounded by the ethereal hum of forecasting algorithms. I am but a humble admirer of your financial sagacity, writing to you with a matter of utmost importance – a penguin conspiracy of cosmic proportions.

Deep within the Antarctic financial underbelly, a clandestine group of tuxedo-clad birds, the “Waddle Street Maestros,” appears to be orchestrating a financial ballet that even the most seasoned Wall Street wizards would envy. Whispers of their stockpile of fishy assets and clandestine iceberg meetings have left me in awe of their financial finesse.

Rumor has it, Mr. Armstrong, that these penguins have somehow gained access to your celestial economic insights. They seem to be decoding your charts with flipper finesse, using your market predictions as a roadmap for their financial exploits.

In the face of this feathered financial wizardry, I implore you to share your otherworldly wisdom. Your guidance could be the beacon that steers us through the icy waters of penguin-led market turbulence. As I pen this missive, I envision you as the maestro guiding us through the cacophony of financial quacks.

Oh, Martin of the Market, grant us the privilege of your insights as we navigate this slippery slope of penguin prosperity. Your devotees await your celestial counsel!

Yours in financial genuflection,

Indolent
Indolent
December 16, 2023 8:32 am
shatterzzz
December 16, 2023 8:37 am

Well there ya goes! .. plenty of “free” housing & life’s “little” needz available to Gazans but nuttin’ for Oz homeless …… FFS!
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/communities-donate-rent-free-homes-toys-and-essentials-to-recently-arrived-gazans-on-temporary-visas/ar-AA1lzk0c?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=66fb25ffcb9e48bfbdb32ef96ae35a84&ei=17

Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2023 8:38 am

If you must have motivation, think of your paycheck on Friday.

– Noel Coward

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 16, 2023 8:42 am

Australia accused of being missing in action on Hamas sanctions

By Matthew Knott

The federal government is under pressure to follow its closest international security partners by imposing targeted financial sanctions on an alleged mastermind of the shocking October 7 attacks in Israel and other senior Hamas officials.

The United States and United Kingdom announced a fresh round of sanctions against Hamas fundraising officials this week, prompting questions about why Australia was not joining with its AUKUS partners in a co-ordinated effort to punish members of the listed terror group.

At the United Nations General Assembly this week, Australia voted in favour of an immediate humanitarian ceasefire, in a notable split from the US, which voted against the resolution, and the UK, which abstained.

But while Albanese and Foreign Minister Penny Wong have both condemned Hamas this week, Australia has issued just one round of sanctions against the terror group’s officials since October 7, compared to four by the US and two by the UK.

On November 18, Wong announced counter-terrorism financing sanctions against eight people and one entity in response to the October 7 attacks, saying: “These sanctions are targeted at those most culpable for terrorist acts.”

Opposition foreign affairs spokesman Simon Birmingham said the government should go further by issuing sanctions against Yahya Sinwar, Hamas’s political leader in Gaza, and Mahmoud Khaled Zahhar, a senior member and co-founder of Hamas.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 16, 2023 8:43 am

KD

No further questions were asked. Warner walked out.

Halfwit. Just a halfwit.

You flatter him, he is not a halfwit, he is a nitwit.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 16, 2023 8:47 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 8:48 am

duncanm

Dec 16, 2023 8:00 AM

With the Wilkinson train knocking a few cars aside at the crossing – unbeknown to the driver – can we expect the shadowy Mr Sharaz to be called to give evidence next week?

Sharaz won’t be appearing I don’t think.
Although, going by Justice Lee’s final questions to the Toad yesterday, I think he would dearly love to get Sharaz on the rotisserie.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 8:50 am

JC at 8:27.
Can AI do a paranoid “dark forces out to get Marty” commentary.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 16, 2023 8:53 am

rosie
Dec 16, 2023 5:56 AM
This is because hamas kidnapped them,
This is because Hamas do not wear uniforms.

In clear breach of the requirements under (the oh-so-sacred when it suits leftards) international law requirements for “irregular forces”.

Tom
Tom
December 16, 2023 8:53 am

JC, many thanks for posting the essay by former New York Times insider James Bennett. The only thing it doesn’t do is explain why 90%+ of journalists loathe their readers and democracy.

Whatever happens in 2024, Donald Trump’s great gift to the world is to expose the fact that journalism has effectively become a radical political party that loathes ordinary Americans.

Journalists here there and everywhere in the West consider themselves kingmakers who get to choose who will lead us politically and are generally the worst possible choice of hypocrite to pretend they are the public’s eyes and ears.

They haven’t been so for half a century — before universities were given the virtually exclusive right to train journalists in place of the former system of on-the-job cadetships, which placed reporters in the real world from day one.

Now, cub reporters are marinated for years in the university production line for radicals before they are ever allowed to deal with the public, with the result most journalists now loathe the public and think they need to educate them how to think.

That most means journalists no longer have any curiosity about the world and interrogate it through a soup of pre-learned radical political ideology. Most journalists no longer think — or vote — like ordinary people because they see themselves as elite knowers of knowledge who are a class above the normies.

JC
JC
December 16, 2023 8:59 am

JC at 8:27.
Can AI do a paranoid “dark forces out to get Marty” commentary.

This is actually pretty good. AI thinks Marty has cracked through a time dimension loop and writing emails to himself from the future.

Dear Marty,

I hope this message finds you in good spirits—or at least, in the same dimension. You’re probably wondering how you received an email from yourself, and I assure you, it’s not a glitch in the space-time continuum… or is it?

I, or should I say, you, have stumbled upon a rather peculiar situation in the multiverse. It seems our alternate reality has taken a rather sinister turn, and I felt it necessary to send you a warning. Consider this the ultimate self-help email from the darkest corners of existence……

Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2023 8:59 am

Reply from Martin Armstrong –

Hello Junior Cokehead,

Thank you for your AI email letter

Please note that my reply has not been formulated by AI and for the uninitiated like you, this is not in any way Investment Advice. Neither General Advice or Personal Advice.

Paranoia can be fixed with the right treatment and there are plenty of Institutions that can help you. And maybe that is what you really need. To be in an Institution.

Down thumbing is all part of free speech and hats off to the Blog Owner at Catallaxy Files for allowing this feature to continue to operate.

Also, please keep away from the Fat Pizza as I don’t think that your rotund short-arse frame can handle it.

And those NDIS Anger Management Classes are just not working for the Blog or indeed yourself. Other Posters to the Blog have noticed this as well.

BTW, Agent Rotten is a keen observer of My Blog as you well know and long may it continue.

Yours in prudent investing and have a nice day (if you can that is)

Martin Armstrong

shatterzzz
December 16, 2023 9:02 am

And conveniently be in a total haze about all details except for crystal clear recollections of dastardly things said and done

As a”recovering” alcoholic (43 years, Aug 1980) I have often fallen back on “blackouts” & no memory” as an excuse whenever I’ve been asked about my 10 years on “skid row” ..
Reality is I remember, at least, 90% of the entire period but it suits me to plead ignorance .. not because I’m embarrassed but simply because it was a way of life I adapted too .. the average person really can’t fathom that it wasn’t all doom & gloom but, for me, just the same daily monotony as someone doing their 9 thru 5 stint .. tho i did put in a lot of O/T ….. LOL!

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
December 16, 2023 9:04 am

“the data can move in surprising ways”- applies to just about everything these days!

JC
JC
December 16, 2023 9:06 am

Down thumbing is all part of free speech and hats off to the Blog Owner at Catallaxy Files for allowing this feature to continue to operate.

It’s actually really good. Hilarious in fact. As it shows various triggering levels. You two-bit limey crook

shatterzzz
December 16, 2023 9:06 am

No further questions were asked. Warner walked out.
Halfwit. Just a halfwit.
You flatter him, he is not a halfwit, he is a nitwit.

Yuo have to wonder why the school didn’t lodge a complaint with CA over this, greed-is-good attitude and tell CA, “No more cricketers here, thanx” ….

Indolent
Indolent
December 16, 2023 9:09 am

We’re looong past the point where ignorance can be claimed of the potential harms. This is absolutely deliberate. They’re just doing the dirty work of their donors, with total disregard for the wellbeing of the public, which ha ha, is supposed to be their raison d’etat.

CDC warns providers of ‘urgent’ need to boost vaccination against COVID, flu, RSV

JC
JC
December 16, 2023 9:09 am

You’re welcome, Tom.

It’s actually a decent piece even for a leftie. Of course, he has to dis Trump, which is kind of funny.

Dissing Trump, when lefties are critical of lefties, is becoming something akin to the welcome to the country shtick we have to endure at times.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 16, 2023 9:14 am

One way to finish a meeting!

The terrifying moment Ukrainian official Srhiy Batryn detonates multiple grenades during heated city council meeting

Terrifying video shows the moment a Ukrainian politician casually detonated multiple grenades during a heated village council meeting Friday, injuring at least 26 people in what is being investigated as an act of terrorism.

The incident occurred about 90 minutes into a livestreamed meeting in the Keretsky Village Council in Ukraine’s Western Zakarpattia region Friday.

A short clip shared by the Ukrainian National Police shows a man — later identified as deputy Serhiy Batryn, a member of Ukraine’s parliament — entering the council headquarters during the debate about finances.

“May I speak?” he finally asks — before removing at least three hand grenades from his jacket pockets and tossing them on the floor.

Stunned people jump up and duck for cover as the explosives go off with loud bangs and flashes, filling the council chamber with thick smoke and screams of agony.

“I can’t walk!” a woman’s anguished voice is heard crying out in Ukrainian during the chaos.

calli
calli
December 16, 2023 9:20 am

What’s not to like about…

pusillanimity

…apart from the practisers thereof?

Thanks Indolent. Great word.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 16, 2023 9:27 am

Two other men accused by the same woman are still before the courts.

Held in custody or out on bail?
One is barely acceptable, the other is a travesty.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 16, 2023 9:29 am

Burka ensuring no Australian Artiste will be living in poverty…
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/dec/15/australian-tv-shows-including-home-and-away-handed-tax-breaks-in-battle-against-hollywood

On Friday the arts minister, Tony Burke, announced changes to the threshold spend to qualify for one of those tax breaks, known as the Producer Offset.
Currently television series can receive a 30% tax break if it costs at least $500,000 to produce each hour. Under the new system, series that do not meet this requirement will still be eligible if they spend at least $35m a season.

“This means shows like Channel Seven’s Home and Away would be eligible, where they previously weren’t,” Burke said in a statement, adding that the changes would help industry professionals secure ongoing work and promote the telling of uniquely Australian stories.
“We want to see more Australian stories shown on screen,” he said. “Backing in Australian drama is essential to that.”

The changes will benefit any drama that films significant hours over a season, such as shows that screen dozens of episodes a year but do not meet the current per-episode spend requirement.

The changes will not come into effect until mid next year.

The Screen Producers Association (SPA) was unavailable for comment on Friday. The peak body has been lobbying the government for more local access to generous tax breaks, which have over the past 15 years delivered an estimated $3.466bn in savings to mainly multinational and overseas studios.

A home and away led recovery!
Bright new shoots of growth at Sunnyvale!

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
December 16, 2023 9:30 am

Do yourself a favour, turn the speakers up loud, and listen, it is only 3 mins long.

This is what happens, when the greatest voice, absolutely nails a work by the greatest composer*.

(*If he is not the greatest composer, he is in the Grand Final.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWc7vYjgnTs

I bet you play it more than once!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 16, 2023 9:36 am

‘Too much risk’: Call for strategic coal power reserves

Angela Macdonald-SmithSenior resources writer

EnergyAustralia boss Mark Collette has called for states to set up government-backed strategic reserves of coal power that could be used to avoid blackouts as the build-out of firmed renewables lags behind the accelerating exit of coal plants.

Mr Collette said the Australian Energy Market Operator’s draft blueprint for the power grid, released on Friday, showed Australia’s energy transition was “happening at light speed”. Without back-up coal power, the electricity system “holds too much risk for consumers”, he said.

EnergyAustralia MD Mark Collette says the country’s energy transition is “happening at light speed”.

Mr Collette has previously outlined a plan for EnergyAustralia’s Mt Piper coal power station near Lithgow to increasingly operate in a “reserve” role, only running when needed to fill in lengthy gaps in supply when renewables output is too low.

While there is no proposal for a reserve system on the table, he has outlined expectations for policy to evolve to support such a system, given the need for coal power beyond the dates plants would close on economic grounds.

AEMO’s draft plan for the power grid points to the need for a more-than-50 per cent faster build-out in wind and solar generation, and a huge increase in gas power plants to support it, as well as expansion in transmission.

The investment is made more urgent by AEMO’s forecast that coal power will exit the National Electricity Market much faster than is being assumed, with all coal plants likely to close by 2038, five years sooner than it estimated last year.

Mr Collette said the scale of the transformation needed to hit Australia’s 2030 climate targets was “hard to overstate”.

”Government and corporate ambition is strong, policy is supportive, but challenges remain, including supply chain, social licence and workforce availability,” he said.

“The timeline for coal exits highlights that getting the details right for the Commonwealth-state agreement on a strategic reserve for each state is essential.”

Opposition energy spokesman Ted O’Brien said AEMO’s report showed the country’s energy market was “on the verge of collapse”, with government policies forcing baseload coal plants out of the market prematurely with no guarantee of replacement reliable power.

The comments come as the NSW government started on Friday to consult on a so-called “orderly exit management framework” to support the exit of coal power plants from the system, which would involve government-backed extensions of plants if required to keep the lights on.

Industry sources say such back-up is clearly needed, pointing to the squeeze on the NSW power grid on Thursday due to the outage of just one coal power unit, which coincided with high electricity demand amid soaring temperatures.

AEMO on Friday issued another level-two warning – for next Tuesday – over insufficient generating reserves in NSW.

The tighter supply-demand balance follows the long-advised closure of AGL Energy’s Liddell coal power plant in April and ahead of the targeted August 2025 closure of Origin Energy’s huge Eraring plant, which the NSW government has decided needs to be delayed.

AEMO’s $121 billion blueprint to transform the power grid to suit low-carbon energy also exposed gaps in policy that cast doubt on how the huge task will be achieved.

The market operator now says an extra 16.2 gigawatts of gas power generation is needed by 2050, up from the 9GW in the 2022 version of its Integrated Systems Plan.

At the same time, actual generation from gas plants is expected to dive sharply out to the mid-2030s as cheap wind and solar take over, arguably putting more reliance on policy to help underwrite the investment.

But the beefed-up Capacity Investment Scheme announced last month by the Albanese government specifically excludes gas, fuelling worries whether weather-dependent wind and solar farms can be firmed up and made reliable as coal plants close.

Sarah McNamara, head the industry body that represents electricity producers, said the ISP had highlighted the important role for gas to help manage peak demand and cover prolonged “droughts” in wind and solar generation.

“The challenge for policymakers– and that is at state and federal government – is to make sure we have the policy settings right so we can encourage the development of the stabilising energy generation that we need to fill what is likely to be periods of supply drought into the future,” she said.

“The specific exclusion of gas from the Capacity Investment Scheme means that the gas challenge has not been addressed.”

Ms McNamara said it was now up to state governments through bilateral deals with Canberra to ensure the stability of their grids, with some states such as South Australia set to welcome more gas power into their systems, while Victoria has decided against.

Australia has about 11 gigawatts of installed gas power capacity, but with 8 gigawatts set to be retired, about 13 gigawatts of new plants will be needed, calculated the Australian Pipelines and Gas Association, which represents APA Group, Jemena and others.

That is the equivalent of about 17 Hunter Power Projects, the new gas plant being built by Snowy Hydro near Newcastle, or 280 plants the size of Squadron Energy’s planned Dubbo gas plant in NSW, said APGA CEO Steve Davies.

The comments came as the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission renewed its warnings that gas shortages threaten the south-eastern states starting in 2027 in the absence of investment in new supply. The finding was described by gas producers as a “wake-up call for governments”.

“Without the development of new gas fields, pipelines and potentially LNG import terminals, or without a significant reduction in demand, the east coast will experience sustained gas shortfalls,” the ACCC said.

Squadron, which aims to deliver one-third of the Albanese government’s target of 82 per cent renewable energy by 2030, fully endorsed AEMO’s grid plan, pointing to its investments underway in wind power in NSW and Queensland, as well as its gas investments at Dubbo and the Port Kembla gas import terminal.

“This mix of renewable energy, backed up by batteries and dispatchable gas sourced without new gas fields, is the right balance to deliver reliable, affordable and clean energy for Australia,” said the company, owned by mining billionaire Andrew Forrest.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 16, 2023 9:40 am

shatterzzz, you were a practiced alcoholic, Hoggins isn’t. Mates old man was an alcy, best chippie/cabinet maker around. Had him do some work for me. Worked hard, never stuffed up but when he got on the piss each night he didn’t remember a thing. Maybe, I don’t really know, alcy’s who work as well tend to forget as I’ve noticed with some of my mates. A real shame. You’ve done well to keep at it.

shatterzzz
December 16, 2023 9:43 am
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 16, 2023 9:46 am

Old Crock in Feraldton was a raving alcoholic.
A “shit my pants at a political meeting where they were silly enough to put on free booze” standard…

Also: Only electrician certified to work on the fuel berths/tanks at Geraldton harbour for a decade.

Struck by lightening once which sent him temporarily blind (and killed most of the pigs in the shed he was wiring up at the time) and won lotto.

Swan Brewery have never recovered from his death.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 16, 2023 9:51 am

Anthony Albanese is called out over his holiday to a West Australian winery with Jodie Haydon where he had a glass from a $500 bottle of red amid cost of living crisis

Albanese enjoyed a $500 bottle of wine on holiday
Opposition claims he’s ‘lost touch with everyday Australians’

$500 bottle of red? Isn’t that something your true Tory would enjoy?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 16, 2023 9:52 am

OldOzzie, AEMO should be lied up and shot as traitors along with most politicians. This is what happens when nobody knows how to do anything little knows what to do. I used to have a brilliant accountant. He always said accounants don’t know how to make money, that is your business. We arrange the figures to suit the law. Never earned so much money nor paid so little in tax. No fiddling. He was cheap too. Ex-Army Major as straight as they come.

calli
calli
December 16, 2023 9:53 am

He was fighting ‘em by drinking their booze.

Brave and cunning. And, oddly refreshing.

Go Albo! Go you good thing!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 16, 2023 9:59 am

Lachrymose Pavarotti. Went to the 3 Tenors concert. Not impressed with him. Carrerras and Domingo sublime.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 16, 2023 10:04 am
Roger
Roger
December 16, 2023 10:04 am

$500 bottle of red? Isn’t that something your true Tory would enjoy?

Socialists are now The Establishment.

amortiser
amortiser
December 16, 2023 10:05 am

During a conversation the next day, when the complainant, who had little memory of the evening, asked what had happened, Mr Martinez indicated they had ­obtained consent continually throughout the sexual activity and understood consent was provided.

Just look at how language is being destroyed by this kowtowing to this “non-binary” nonsense.

Here we have two people sexually engaged and Mr Martinez says they obtained consent. Anyone familiar with the English language would conclude that there was someone else present watching proceedings and giving approval to each course of action as the action unfolds.

“They” by any reasonable understanding of the language are Mt Martinez and Ms Pisspot. But no, the plural, third person pronoun they refers to Mr Martinez and it is he who is obtaining consent. Confusing, isn’t it?

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 16, 2023 10:06 am

Moderation?

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 16, 2023 10:06 am

Tried to post Vikki Campion article.

Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2023 10:07 am

When men speak ill of thee, live so as nobody may believe them.

– Plato

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2023 10:08 am

Albanese enjoyed a $500 bottle of wine on holiday …

Moss Wood? I crashed a Moss Wood tasting at the Claremont Hotel walking home from the train station (before the massive renovation) and enjoyed a number of open bottles that would otherwise gone to waste without my thoughtful intervention.

amortiser
amortiser
December 16, 2023 10:08 am

$500 bottle of red? Isn’t that something your true Tory would enjoy?

To fight them you have to know your enemy.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2023 10:09 am

Socialists are now The Establishment.

We are just paying for it.

calli
calli
December 16, 2023 10:14 am

Bear, you are a true philanthropist.

Hang on…that makes two of us.

Roger
Roger
December 16, 2023 10:15 am

$500 bottle of red? Isn’t that something your true Tory would enjoy?

Your true Tory would have created the wealth with which he purchased the wine.

Albanese has not created a cent of wealth in his lifetime.

P
P
December 16, 2023 10:15 am

OPINION
An open letter to my Dad, Kevin Conolly
By Benjamin Conolly – December 16, 2023

I can’t even imagine what it must be like for a conservative Catholic MP at a time when our values are being pushed outside the Overton window.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 16, 2023 10:22 am

Good article, from the Oz. I’ve posted the full article.

From Inquirer
December 16, 2023
12 minute read
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Can there ever be peace between Israel and the Palestinians?

If history is a guide, the answer is no. But we are right to believe in miracles.

The Israeli government has only weeks to finish, or at least change fundamentally, its operation to destroy the Hamas terrorist group in Gaza. International pressure on Israel is mounting drastically. The humanitarian cost in Gaza, though entirely the moral responsibility of Hamas, is unsustainably high.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will not be moved by the Albanese government signing a defective, one-sided UN resolution demanding an immediate ceasefire but not even mentioning Hamas by name, nor its October 7 atrocities.

It’s demoralising, of course, the defection, and confusion, of Australia, which was once at the centre of the Western alliance.

But much more important is the attitude of US President Joe Biden, who warns that Israel is losing international support. Biden himself is under immense pressure for solidly backing Israel.

The biggest operational problem for Israel remains the 500km of Hamas tunnels. Israel must destroy or disable these if it is to capture or kill top Hamas leaders and permanently disable Hamas militarily. The international pressure is immense. Israel will finish its operation by January or change its methods such that large-scale humanitarian aid can enter Gaza.

But it’s what happens the day after the operation ends that is where the biggest disagreement between Jerusalem and Washington (and Canberra, though Australia now has no influence at all with Jerusalem) comes in.

The Biden administration, like most international opinion, wants negotiations to resume towards a two-state solution, a Palestinian state living next door to Israel. Given that’s agonisingly distant, in the short term it wants the Palestinian Authority, which administers the West Bank, to administer Gaza.

Netanyahu says no on both scores. He doesn’t want the PA in charge of Gaza and he now rejects the two-state solution. My guess is he’d compromise on having the PA back in Gaza. The two-state solution, however, extraordinarily complex and difficult, seems impossible operationally.

Nothing generates more ignorant cliches than the Israel-Palestine dispute. Much discussion of it just involves endless recycling of familiar cliches that mostly float clear of reality. The difficulty with the two-state solution is that Palestinians, and in the past their Arab neighbours, and now their Iranian sponsors, have rejected every single genuine offer of a Palestinian state.

Until recently, most Israelis wanted a two-state solution. As anyone who has visited Israel knows, it’s a successful modern democracy, with a vibrant society, ethnic diversity and great economic achievement. It yearns to live normally, in peace. But decades of relentless attack by regional enemies who don’t accept its right to exist has changed its attitude to the utility, and dangers, of peace negotiations.

Notwithstanding three regional wars aimed at Israel’s annihilation, and almost constant lesser attacks from a collection of enemies that would fill a fat phone book, Israel has on at least four separate occasions offered a full state to the Palestinians, who each time rejected it.

It starts in 1947. The last uncontested sovereign power over the land of Israel, before modern Israel was created, was the Ottoman Empire. Ditto for the West Bank and Gaza. After the Ottomans, Britain ruled under a mandate first from the League of Nations, then the UN.

In 1947 the UN decided to split the land between Jews and Palestinians, with Jerusalem belonging to neither state but administered internationally. The Palestinians could have had their independent state right then. Israel would have been much smaller. Instead the Palestinians, plus all their Arab neighbours, rejected the deal. In 1948, when Israel declared independence and was formally recognised by a vote at the UN, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan all attacked, planning to wipe the Jews out of existence.

There was terrible fighting. Several Jewish towns were massacred. Some 750,000 Palestinians left Israel. This had several causes. One is they expected Jewish soldiers to be as savage with them as Arab soldiers had been with Jewish residents. Another is they expected Arab nations to quickly overwhelm Israel. Then they would return. Some Arab leaders advised Arab residents to flee temporarily. Some Palestinians were certainly driven out by Jewish soldiers. Large numbers of Palestinians remained, and today 20 per cent of Israel’s population is Arab. About the same time, 850,000 Jews were expelled from Arab and North African countries where Jews had lived for millennia, although often as a persecuted minority.

Israel’s Arab neighbours were determined never to accept a Jewish state. In 1967 they were making troop movements preparatory to attacking Israel, and declaring they were about to attack. So Israel launched a pre-emptive strike and in the process took control of the West Bank, which had been in Jordan’s possession, and the Gaza Strip, which Egypt had controlled, and the Sinai Desert, which also belonged to Egypt. Neither Jordan nor Egypt had ever tried to set up an independent Palestinian state in these territories.

Following this war the Arab states declared their policy of “three noes”: no peace, no recognition, no negotiation.

In 1973 Egypt, under Anwar Sadat, and Syria, with a degree of help from some other Arab nations, launched a surprise military attack on Israel that became the Yom Kippur war. At terrible cost, Israel won that war.

Despite his anti-Semitic past, Sadat made a historic peace with Israel in 1979. Critically, Israel returned the vast Sinai desert to Egypt, giving up all the strategic depth it had afforded Israel, and all its mineral resources, in exchange for a durable peace treaty. Israel evicted Jewish settlers who had moved to Sinai. But in terms of the politics of a subsequent Palestinian state, here is the most powerful lesson of all. Egyptian Islamic Jihad, enraged at Sadat making peace with Israel, assassinated him in 1981.

The Egyptian peace treaty demonstrated conclusively Israel would trade territory for peace, so long as it got real peace. The US underwrote the peace and it stands today. The Egypt-Israel treaty showed everyone peace was possible. Sadat’s assassination showed everyone it would always carry a high price.

The Oslo peace accords kicked off a process in the 1990s that led to Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, under the sponsorship of Bill Clinton, offering a full Palestinian state to Yasser Arafat.

Barak offered 96 per cent of the West Bank, some compensating territory from Israel proper, all of Gaza and the Palestinian neighbourhoods of east Jerusalem. Israel would keep only the large Jewish settlement blocs near Jerusalem, a couple of per cent of West Bank territory, and give territory from Israel proper in compensation. Barak wanted a full guarantee of peace and an end to all other Palestinian claims on Israel.

Arafat refused the deal. He tried to tell Clinton that Jews really had no historic connection to Jerusalem. He couldn’t meet the requirement to end all claims. And he demanded that all four million of the descendants of the 750,000 Palestinians who left in 1948 be allowed to return and live permanently in Israel, not in the new Palestinian state but in Israel itself. This is the so-called “right of return” and it’s an absurdity.

Every other refugee population that goes to live elsewhere is permanently resettled. But, of the neighbouring Arab countries, only Jordan offered Palestinians citizenship. Generally, Palestinian refugees and their children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren were kept as notional refugees so the UN would pay for them in perpetuity, and as a bargaining chip against Israel.

The Palestinians could have had an independent state from Clinton and Barak, flooded with international aid, sponsored by the US, the EU and the Arab world. But had Arafat taken this deal he would surely have been killed by his own extremists eventually, just like Sadat. It’s likely Arafat never remotely wanted a deal. Former Indonesian president Abdurrahman Wahid once told me that Arafat had told him privately that it was his ambition “to throw all the Jews into the sea”.

Barak’s remarkably generous deal, which would have involved uprooting many Jewish settlers in the West Bank and Gaza, was improved and offered to Arafat again. But again the Palestinians rejected it, making the third clear time they refused to accept a state.

In his memoirs, Clinton makes it clear Arafat bears responsibility for the failure to achieve a Palestinian state. If we’re sceptical of Israeli sources, we can read the detail in numerous memoirs of US officials intimately involved in the negotiations.

The fourth clear offer from Israel of a Palestinian state came at the end of the prime ministership of Ehud Olmert, in 2008. A year later, Olmert gave me his first and most extensive interview on this peace plan. Everything he said to me was later confirmed in the memoirs of Condoleezza Rice, US secretary of state at the time.

“From the end of 2006 until the end of 2008, I think I met Abu Mazen (Mahmoud Abbas, then and now the Palestinian president) more often than any Israeli leader has met any Arab leader. I met him more than 35 times. They were intense, serious negotiations,” Olmert told me.

“On 16th September, 2008, I presented him (Abbas) with a comprehensive plan. There would be a territorial solution based on the 1967 borders with minor modifications on both sides. Israel will claim part of the West Bank where there have been demographic changes (by this Olmert meant the three biggest Jewish settlement blocs).

“In total it would be about 6.4 per cent (of the West Bank, with Jewish settlers outside those blocs forced to leave the West Bank). In return there would be a swap of land (to the Palestinians) from Israel as it existed before 1967. I showed how this would maintain the contiguity of the Palestinian state. I also proposed a safe passage between the West Bank and Gaza. It would have been a tunnel, fully controlled by the Palestinians but not under Palestinian sovereignty.

“Jerusalem was a very sensitive, very painful, soul-searching process. While I always believed that historically, and emotionally, Jerusalem was always the capital of the Jewish people, I was ready that the city should be shared.

“Jewish neighbourhoods would be under Jewish sovereignty, Arab neighbourhoods under Palestinian sovereignty, so it could be the capital of a Palestinian state.”

The area of the holiest sites, sites holy to Muslims, Jews and Christians, Olmert proposed, should be administered by five nations – Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the Palestinian state, Israel and the US. On the right of return, Olmert offered a symbolic return of 1000 Palestinians a year for five years to Israel itself and an international fund to recognise Palestinian suffering.

By then the descendants of all the Palestinian refugees, living in many countries, numbered five million. It’s insane to imagine Israel would invite five million Muslim Arabs to come and live in the state of Israel itself. The only purpose of the right of return is to give Palestinian leaders an excuse to reject a state. There would also need to be some security guarantees, such as the Palestinian state not acquiring conventional military weapons.

Rice in her memoirs says she was thrilled by this offer. She found it breathtaking and incredibly generous, the most that could ever be imagined. There was no absolute guarantee Olmert could have delivered this deal, but if the Palestinians had said yes, and the Americans had backed it, it would have been unstoppable. Except, perhaps, by a new wave of Palestinian terrorism.

Olmert told me: “I said this is the offer. Sign it and we can immediately get support from America, Europe, all over the world. I told him (Abbas) he’d never get anything like this again from an Israeli leader for 50 years. I said to him, do you want to keep floating forever, like an astronaut in space, or do you want a state?”

Abbas said he would come back next day with experts and advisers. But his office rang and said he’d forgotten a pre-planned trip. He’d come back to Olmert the next week. But Abbas never responded to the offer at all.

That was a fourth clear chance for a Palestinian state, clearly rejected by the Palestinians.

Later, even Netanyahu for a time would commit himself to a two-state solution, which he now rejects, but for many months the Palestinians refused to negotiate with him. The offers from Barak and Olmert involved immense courage, huge concessions and rare social and political strength. They meant Israel would trust a Palestinian state not to launch terrorism or worse against it. One part of the West Bank looks directly down on Tel Aviv airport. The whole of Israel could be paralysed if a neighbouring Palestinian state launched any attacks.

But every time an agreement looked possible, Islamist extremists would launch terror attacks on Israel designed to derail the peace process. They want conflict. That was a key reason Hamas was set up. Even with security guarantees, it’s now all but impossible for Israelis to trust a Palestinian state.

So in the meantime there are serious efforts to make life better for Palestinians in the territories. Netanyahu allowed Qatari aid to flow to Gaza and hundreds of Gazans to work in Israel proper. The aid was misused for weapons and tunnels and some of the workers supplied Hamas terrorists with detailed information regarding Israeli targets for the October 7 atrocities. How can Israel now trust any Palestinian state?

Further, what evidence is there a generation of Palestinians, raised on hate-filled anti-Semitic indoctrination in their schools, would ever accept the legitimacy of a Jewish state next door? There would always be incentive for Islamist extremists such as Hamas to assassinate any Palestinian leader who made peace or declared an end of claims on Israel.

This is one of many reasons the Albanese government was so ill-advised in changing to calling the West Bank and Gaza “illegally occupied Palestinian territories”. If Israel’s occupation is illegal, it must withdraw. Who then does it hand the territories over to? Hamas?

All the while Iran funds and co-ordinates the extremists: Hamas, Hezbollah in Lebanon, Houthis in Yemen, militias in Syria and Iraq. Under Biden, the US has lost influence in the Gulf, so it’s more difficult for everyone to resist Iranian money, guns, threats and influence.

Eventually, a two-state solution will have to come back, but eventually is a long time. The Israeli government, not unreasonably given everything, sees no prospect of it in the near future. No doubt Anthony Albanese and Penny Wong know better

cohenite
December 16, 2023 10:26 am

Black Ball
Dec 16, 2023 10:06 AM
Tried to post Vikki Campion article.

Try again; BJ’s missus is always worth reading.

Zatara
Zatara
December 16, 2023 10:27 am

The only thing it doesn’t do is explain why 90%+ of journalists loathe their readers and democracy.

Because “journalism schools” now teach activism, not reporting?

Gabor
Gabor
December 16, 2023 10:31 am

Somehow I don’t think this was completely thought through.

cohenite
December 16, 2023 10:32 am

Things happening on the US streets; wonder no more why the US is rooted:

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=191643990687991

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 16, 2023 10:37 am

All journalism students should be made read (The Adventure of) Silver Blaze.
That’s where “the dog that didn’t bark” came from.
If they can’t understand/critique/learn from that, they have zero business being in the field of journalism.

Roger
Roger
December 16, 2023 10:42 am

Because “journalism schools” now teach activism, not reporting?

Reporting? How quaint.

Even the junior at the local rag now has an agenda which frames every story.

duncanm
duncanm
December 16, 2023 10:46 am

Rufus T Firefly
Dec 16, 2023 9:30 AM
Do yourself a favour, turn the speakers up loud, and listen, it is only 3 mins long.

This is what happens, when the greatest voice, absolutely nails a work by the greatest composer*.

I’m no opera buff, but I definitely think there are better versions/singers on this one.

eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUbA5y1hnFg

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 16, 2023 10:48 am

$500 bottle of red? Isn’t that something your true Tory would enjoy?

Albo has five houses.

Jets around in private aircraft.

But he “fights Tories”….right!

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 16, 2023 10:48 am

This is where I got the link, but this contains a ton of information, all bad.

And this from someone who is consistently dispassionate about medical issues. There is a large tendency among sarcoidosis patients to avoid the jabs due to their higher potential for side effects.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 10:50 am

$500 bottle of red? Isn’t that something your true Tory would enjoy?

Lets see.

1. If it was a gift, then he’d have to resign (paging a Mr O’Farrell).

2. If the government paid for it it would be corrupt and he’s up for the other big house.

3. He paid for it himself.

I wonder which one it is?

Roger
Roger
December 16, 2023 10:50 am

Jets around in private aircraft.

With his pooch.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 16, 2023 10:56 am

But he “fights Tories”….right!

What a wanker. Australia’s lack of Tories means that he hates US. I tend to think assigning mundane motivations to people like Albo along the lines of “the banality of evil” is appropriate, considering the disproportionate cost to everyone else.

Hence, Sydney is looking at cramming in 10 million people by 2062, all so Albo can increase the size of his housing portfolio.

But I learned from the best. Rowan Atkinson in Blackadder IV stated that they had to go over the top so that General Haig could move his drinks cabinet 6 inches closer to Berlin. Far funnier, but the lesson is the same.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 16, 2023 10:57 am

Jets around in private aircraft.

With his pooch.

What about his canine?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 10:58 am

You can get it fighting Torries.
You can get it any old how.
Matter of fact, I got it now.

Coupla bottles of The Vanya, ta.

Roger
Roger
December 16, 2023 11:00 am

COP28 deal confirms what Australia already knows: coal is out of vogue and out of time

– John Quiggin, The Conversation

Meanwhile, China is building two new coal power plants every week.

Frank
Frank
December 16, 2023 11:02 am

The only thing it doesn’t do is explain why 90%+ of journalists loathe their readers and democracy.

That self styled sophisticates versus bogans class divide would probably explain a fair amount of it.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 16, 2023 11:02 am

That Leak tooon https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/2d3f639c98dff7084d521b0ddc6e1823?width=1024

Reminds me of The Prestige.
Anyone else?

132andBush
132andBush
December 16, 2023 11:02 am

Continuing to watch as much as possible re Israel/hamas.

From Piers Morgan to Unherd and others.

Some common themes continue to manifest themselves.

– The obtuseness, arrogance, rudeness and outright lying of hamas spokesmen.

– Norman Finkelsteins’ continued ability to use a lot of words and I mean a LOT of words to say virtually nothing, accompanied by that perpetual lefty head tilt.

– The sanitising of Oct 7th by various anti Israel commentators (John Mearsheimer for example) who then go on to say what’s happening in Gaza is all Israels fault and they should stop indiscriminately bombing etc etc, and when pressed offer no alternative course of action.

– The obvious spamming of comments sections of these videos with pro hamas propaganda.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 16, 2023 11:03 am

When men speak ill of thee, live so as nobody may believe them.

– Plato

What a great quote. If you’re immoral, unethical, or corrupt or all of the above, then lies about you ring true.

I stress to my children the importance of reputation, and this is one of the reasons for it. My youngest, who tends to be late, gets told it only takes two times to get a reputation. In the age of the internet, these lessons are even more important.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 16, 2023 11:04 am

$500 bottle of red? Isn’t that something your true Tory would enjoy?

He chucks in a couple of ice cubes to stick it to the Tories.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 16, 2023 11:04 am

Footage on twitter shows that it’s not only the US taxpayer that gets bent over in the Capitol Building.
Eye bleach needed.

cohenite
December 16, 2023 11:05 am

COP28 deal confirms what Australia already knows: coal is out of vogue and out of time

Quiggin is a proven imbecile (idiots, imbeciles and morns are the IQ rankings so the bastard could gt dumber and become an idiot).

The takeaway from COP28 was that the real powers in the ME and Asia are pro fossils and nuclear.

Frank
Frank
December 16, 2023 11:05 am

John Quiggin, a name from long ago that never fails to inspire confidence.

cohenite
December 16, 2023 11:05 am

COP28 deal confirms what Australia already knows: coal is out of vogue and out of time

Quiggin is a proven imbecile (idiots, imbeciles and morons are the IQ rankings so the bastard could get dumber and become an idiot).

The takeaway from COP28 was that the real powers in the ME and Asia are pro fossils and nuclear.

cohenite
December 16, 2023 11:06 am

Oops; I’m obviously a moron.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 16, 2023 11:07 am

smh goes all in running interference for Clare O’Neil.
Dreyfus should be scheduling the meeting with public service team that shows him the spreadsheet with his entitlements based on when he officially exits.

Roger
Roger
December 16, 2023 11:08 am

Quiggin is a proven imbecile

Also a Prof of Economics at UQ.

This is the problem.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 16, 2023 11:09 am

Just looking at the front page of the Hun yesterday, picture of Lisa Wilkinson. Is there a more smug and repulsive woman?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 16, 2023 11:11 am

Please make time to watch this

I did watch it and I agree with the analysis made about the intent of the Oct 7 attacks. The ferocity was born of a gleeful hatred that wanted to deeply scar the Jews, it wanted to signal genocide. I’ve always seen it as this. Basically, it was the calling card of the total Hamas project, which is to destroy the Israeli mantra of Never Again.

You think? says Hamas. Just watch us.

And that’s why Israel is not going to give up this time.

cohenite
December 16, 2023 11:17 am

Just looking at the front page of the Hun yesterday, picture of Lisa Wilkinson. Is there a more smug and repulsive woman?

Shrillary
The squad
Clare O’Neil
The drug dealer’s missus
Does Mr Wong count as woman?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 16, 2023 11:18 am

I wasn’t referring to military assistance as the Saudi military can only operate in air-conditioning.

lol. Trust JC to say it in ways that count. Part of his series of posts upthread that I think are very good value. When JC sticks to his knitting he’s producing Fair Isle (aka complex and informed analysis). When he drops a stitch and employs bombast against others then I just scroll. To quote a memorable phrase about life’s surprises: ‘No-one’s perfect”.

Roger
Roger
December 16, 2023 11:20 am

And that’s why Israel is not going to give up this time.

Watch Biden/Blinken abandon them by the new year.

‘America is harmless as an enemy and treacherous as a friend.’

– Bernard Lewis

shatterzzz
December 16, 2023 11:22 am

hadn’t realised luigi was on “holidays” all those OS junkets taking their toll .. LOL!

Roger
Roger
December 16, 2023 11:24 am

Let’s not inflate Mz. Wilkinson beyond her importance.

She’s not even a cheap tabloid journalist.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 16, 2023 11:24 am

Qwiggles doing another “Steiner is coming” moment??

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 11:26 am

Quiggin is a proven imbecile

Also a Prof of Economics at UQ.

Office next door to Prof Overly & Hugely Gullible?

I was amused that the new Monash VC was caterwauling yesterday.

‘Don’t throw us dog biscuits’: new Monash VC (Paywallian)

Incoming Monash University vice-chancellor Sharon Pickering says the Universities Accord needs to be a “multi-issue bargain”.

Chicken pellets would be more fitting than dog biscuits. Dogs are much more intelligent.

Muddy
Muddy
December 16, 2023 11:33 am

dover0beach
Dec 16, 2023 12:34 AM

… What Oct 7 was designed to achieve was a return of ‘the Palestinian question’ back to centrestage of international attention given it had been sidelined over the last two decades and was increasingly being so with the Abraham Accords.

I’ve posited previously that perhaps the underlying and primary motivation of 7 Oct was to prove their relevance, both locally and to regional competitors for funds/recruits. Hence why I’ve also suggested that regardless how badly their Gazan forces are smashed, they ‘won’ the reputational fight on the very first day, and to the soft, fat and safe porkers at the apex, that is all that matters.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2023 11:36 am

She’s not even a cheap tabloid journalist.

Certainly not at the moment. Not even Special Projects. I’ll see myself out thanks.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 11:42 am

I’ve posited previously that perhaps the underlying and primary motivation of 7 Oct was to prove their relevance

Muddy – I think there was also a use-it-or-lose-it mindset in the mix as well.

Israel is about to roll out their laser defense system, which is perfect for cheaply and efficiently destroying both bootleg rockets and terror balloons, which have been the staple for Hamas and Islamic Jihad. It’ll do drones too. The weapon system is due to go live in 2024, and they launched their assault in late 2023. That way they could use up their rockets before they became worthless junk.

Muddy
Muddy
December 16, 2023 11:42 am

The Beer whisperer
Dec 16, 2023 10:56 AM

Rowan Atkinson in Blackadder IV stated that they had to go over the top so that General Haig could move his drinks cabinet 6 inches closer to Berlin.

That last episode is as sobering now (to anyone with a basic knowledge of the Great War) as it apparently was when first broadcast.

Jorge
Jorge
December 16, 2023 11:44 am

I’ll bet Tony Burka’s tax breaks for movies would never produce one of these. Due for Australian release January 9.

More Than a Satire: American Fiction is a Poignant Reflection on Existence

Of all the great premises™ boasted by this year’s slate of movies, the wonderful American Fiction has one of the very best. The film is about a veteran writer of literary fiction who, as a Black man, finds himself undesirable in the literary market for his lack of conforming to type. The (white-controlled) conglomerate that is the publishing industry plus the impressionable American readership wants to uplift Black voices and experiences, meaning that what they really want is stereotypical “Black” stories to champion.
Our protagonist, Thelonious Ellison, or “Monk” (Jeffrey Wright), a writer and professor who hails from an upper-class New England family and writes Ancient Greek-inspired literary fiction, isn’t of interest to the zeitgeist because his books aren’t “Black,” meaning that they aren’t full of stock characters, settings, and themes. Monk is flabbergasted when he encounters the type of “Black book” that people do seem to want, a bestselling Push-style tome of class suffering and ebonic cartoons called We’s Lives In Da Ghetto. That book is written by a person he can’t figure out, a smart and professional young Black woman named Sintara Golden (Issa Rae). Is she gaming the literary world or buying in to its prejudices? Monk doesn’t know.

So, one night, a bit drunkenly, he writes a fake book. A “Black book,” a wildly ridiculous carnival of stereotypes called My Pafology. “Deadbeat dads, rappers, crack… you said you wanted Black stuff!” he tells his agent. He doesn’t mean to try to sell it. But the thing is, the book sells. It gets a huge publishing contract, a movie deal, awards consideration… the whole kit and caboodle. Shortly, Monk finds himself pretending to be someone else, his own pseudonym, Stagg R. Leigh, a murderous convict on the run. Monk doesn’t even really want to capitalize on or stoke the racial and class myopia of the literary world, but he does anyway, wrestling with feelings of hypocrisy and justification that give way, mostly, to remorse, guilt, and self-loathing.
But, as I’ve said, while American Fiction finds its feet in clever burlesque, it stands tall as a coming-of-(middle)-age domestic drama. Monk is getting older, trying to be there for his family, trying to find a companion (dating a neighbor, Coraline, played by Erika Alexander), watching as those his age or older around him find and learn about themselves (from his brother Cliff, played by Sterling K. Brown, who has just come out as gay, to the family’s longtime housekeeper Lorraine, played by Myra Lucretia Taylor, who is falling in love with a local man). American Fiction represents existence as a cyclical process of alienation from and then rediscovery of the self; Monk is experiencing the former part while nearly everyone around him is experiencing the latter. There’s another part, too, which involves discovering how others see you and want you to be.

shatterzzz
December 16, 2023 11:46 am

Binge watched 2 seasons of SHADOW & BONE .. very well dun fantasy/magic well worth the 16 episodes, if you like “The Witcher” style of show .. 12/10
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2403776/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
But if you prefer watching “nuttin” type offerings then you can’t go past wasting 2 hours of your life on the Julia Roberts “newie”.. LEAVE THE WORLD BEHIND .. lotz of threats to break into a decent movie but in the “end” does nuttin’, goes nowhere, lotza & lotz of waffle, vague plot & NO action ………….. 3/10 ..
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12747748/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_leave%2520the%2520world

Muddy
Muddy
December 16, 2023 11:48 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Dec 16, 2023 11:42 AM

An interesting thought, Bruce.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 16, 2023 11:52 am

Telstra just sharted itself…

https://twitter.com/cb_doge/status/1735732152514515278

SpaceX to Launch First Direct-To-Cell Starlink Satellites This Weekend.

“There will be no cellphone dead zones in the world. Your phone will still work even if there are no cell towers.”

Bazinga
Bazinga
December 16, 2023 11:53 am

I have a new theory. Ever notice how similar Sharaz and Lehrmann look?

miltonf
miltonf
December 16, 2023 11:53 am

John Quiggin proves too much ejucashun turns you into an intellectual cripple.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 16, 2023 11:57 am

The horror. The horror (the Courier-Mail):

A search is underway after a wallaby escaped from Australia Zoo this morning.

Police were called to an “animal related” traffic hazard on Steve Irwin Way at Beerwah at 8am.

The wallaby is understood to have escaped around 6.30am, possibly through a main drain.

A nation holds its breath.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 16, 2023 11:57 am

Just listened to Tucker Carlson on Jimmy Dore show via YouTube. Probably one of the more interesting interviews he has given as covers the vaccines and other interesting topics. Dore was Vax injured.

Otherwise no longer listen to Dore as he is very obviously anti Israel.

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