Open Thread – Mon 18 Dec 2023


The pilot’s jetty, Le Havre, Camille Pissarro, 1903

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calli
calli
December 19, 2023 2:22 pm

Amalak, how about this combination – coke, alcohol and [drumroll] Roses chocolates?

Lethal, I’d say. 😀

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 2:23 pm

Keep in mind, the study I looked at didn’t even consider word order.

Scoring was carried out in the following manner: If the participant correctly typed a word in the sentence, then that word was scored as “correct.” The proportion of words correct was scored across sentences. For the sentence “Is your sister in school,” if the participant typed in “Is the…” only the word “Is” would be scored as correct. In this example, one out of five words would be correct, making the proportion correct?=?1?5?=?0.20. Word order was not a critical criterion for a word to be scored as accurate. However, upon inspection of the data, participants almost never switched word order in their responses. Subject responses were manually corrected for any misspellings.

So if at best you get 30% of the data in any order, well, this is ridiculous, never mind the cadence.

“Time that I (mumble) go and whack (mumble) prick off”

???

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 19, 2023 2:23 pm

Paying by card (in the new fashion) must introduce another level of awkward.

Swiping cards?

Some images cannot be recognised as to sickening to imagine until you have imagined them.

You bastard!

Alamak!
December 19, 2023 2:24 pm

There is no way he could have known Higgins didn’t see a doctor immediately afterwards in which case, if she had (and they had indeed had sex), he would already be rotting in prison.

Unless he likes taking risks …

But yeah, there could be all kinds of evidence (DNA in office, camera(s), doctor, …) that would convict him which he could not be sure about.

areff
areff
December 19, 2023 2:24 pm

The last thing want on a coke binge, Calli, is Rose’s choccies. That’s why the supermodels powder their noses, to suppress appetite.

Alamak!
December 19, 2023 2:28 pm

Amalak, how about this combination – coke, alcohol and [drumroll] Roses chocolates?

Sounds like a Party to me.

Ordering of selected vices can be important and often amateurs get it wrong.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 19, 2023 2:29 pm

Keep in mind, the study I looked at didn’t even consider word order.

A New Word Order?

Be careful, Indolent will be all over that like ‘paralytic drunk on floor’.

At least avoid the word ‘suddenly’.

calli
calli
December 19, 2023 2:33 pm

Snort!

Whoops!

JMH
JMH
December 19, 2023 2:35 pm

Another video of the Iceland eruption with sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIwBjOBewsM

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 19, 2023 2:37 pm

She will turn up with her university education, versed in the most current and exclusive haute couture, possess an epicurean talent for resolving foods against countless spectra of flavours, and have a deft savant gift for cocktails – and still be the 651st classiest person in the village.

She will be the subject of open gossip and speculation to a level she would probably not imagine.

You know what Yvette, Mme. Baise says she was mistress to that Scott Morrison.
No. The fat one? On TV about submarines? How disgusting.
Oh yes. M. Baise read that online in English.
Look at her boyfriend, she must enjoy fat men…
Well, he’s very rich, so you can see why.
And very stupid – imagine paying Eur300,000 for the Putain place?

calli
calli
December 19, 2023 2:45 pm

Okay. Maybe not powder. How about MDMA?

rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 2:46 pm

I agree, there was no sex.
Starting off with no sex then being hit with evidence of sex is a a sure fire way to a prison cell.
In this day and age someone with a modicum of awareness would assume there would be evidence of sex and go straight to consensual.
Don’t forget Brit didn’t do a Monica, no, she washed it and wore it again.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
December 19, 2023 2:46 pm

“Mr Expert Lip Reader, would you agree that there is variation in an individual’s word choice, say between a stratified workplace and a common social ground?”
“Yarp.”
“And would you agree that many different individuals will form a common word with different vocal postures?”
“Yarp.”
“Mr Lip Reader…. can you even hear the words I am saying? Can you be shoe of my works, right soul, even as I am stinking here taste ten feet away from you?”
“Er… narp.”
“Thank you yerronner, no further questions.”

bons
bons
December 19, 2023 2:47 pm

The most egregious aspect of the whole sordid Higgins political conspiracy was the ABC (as always) setting her up at the NPC with Tame.

Due process?

The criminal political aspects of the scam far outweigh any he said/she said sexual nonsense but they tare being buried. Encouragingly, Labor remain very exposed and if Reynolds can maintain the rage there may yet be results.

One can’t help wondering if, like the plot of a cheap thriller, Hoggins was encouraged by certain political interests to bugger off to France quickish.

Alamak!
December 19, 2023 2:48 pm

She will be the subject of open gossip and speculation to a level she would probably not imagine.

They will be drawn into the ongoing petty yet intense village ‘war’ over the new public urinal.

Larimah, done in French.

amortiser
amortiser
December 19, 2023 2:51 pm

This lip reading expert has never been subject to cross examination in a court. He can’t read the lips of counsel asking him questions right in front of him. This is a pile of BS.

rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 2:51 pm
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 19, 2023 2:54 pm

intense village ‘war’ over the new public urinal.

Clochmerle?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 19, 2023 2:55 pm

One can’t help wondering if, like the plot of a cheap thriller, Hoggins was encouraged by certain political interests to bugger off to France quickish.

She’d be well advised to avoid the Pont de l’Alma tunnel in Paris.

amortiser
amortiser
December 19, 2023 2:55 pm

You have to hand it to this guy, the Lip Reader. He has got a free trip to Australia with his concubine in tow courtesy of Lisa Wilkinson and Network 10. Pure gold.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
December 19, 2023 3:00 pm

“You may, or may not, be an antisemite, but reminding people of your appeasing idiocy is pretty dumb Mr Chamberlain.”

So Lysander, I assume you believe that the eradication of Hamas is possible, which IS the goal, right?
Don’t get hit by any Unicorns when you go outside.

Still, a few hundred unnecessary deaths and thousands of unnecessary wounded, because the goal is unattainable, is all fair enough, ……, so long as it is not you who has to go and die.

You are a smart and brave individual L.
You wouldn’t be related to “St Volodymyr the Pure” by any chance?

IDF casualties, as of yesterday, were 103 dead in Gaza. There were more killed up North though.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 19, 2023 3:00 pm

Dr Faustus
Dec 19, 2023 1:12 PM

Col B: The other way is by recalling that the Range Rover is an entirely different vehicle to the Land Rover.

From your wording of that statement, you didn’t know Land Rover was a brand not a model.
I’ll let you off because I didn’t know either. (A Faustian bargain?)

Alamak!
December 19, 2023 3:00 pm

Lip reader spots a key word that may solve the case in one go.

Bru mentions “root” – or possibly “route” to Bri shortly before leaving le Club.

Court in uproar. Judge bangs gavel. Its all over.

Zippster
Zippster
December 19, 2023 3:02 pm

WHO debate, UK Parliament
Dr. John Campbell

amortiser
amortiser
December 19, 2023 3:03 pm

So Lysander, I assume you believe that the eradication of Hamas is possible, which IS the goal, right?
Don’t get hit by any Unicorns when you go outside.

That doesn’t mean that you don’t try. We try to apprehend murders in our community too but know that we won’t be entirely successful. That doesn’t mean that we should shut down police departments and let the criminals run wild.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 19, 2023 3:04 pm

Did you know that gelded sod Edward did not even use the Windsor knot that people associate with him? He just required that his tie maker to use especially thick materials to make the knots bigger

What?

The rotter.

Had the public at large been aware of this appalling state of affairs, Edward would no doubt have been thrashed in the street.

rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 3:06 pm
areff
areff
December 19, 2023 3:12 pm

The good villagers of Lunas really need a warning that Ms Piggins is on the way.

https://mairie-lunas.fr/contact/

They still have a day or so to put locks on their larders and hide their chocolates.

Also, the gendarmes need to be alerted that incidence of false accusations is about to rise dramatically.

rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 3:13 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 3:15 pm

amortiser
Dec 19, 2023 2:55 PM

You have to hand it to this guy, the Lip Reader. He has got a free trip to Australia with his concubine in tow courtesy of Lisa Wilkinson and Network 10. Pure gold.

OK.
Riddle me this.
The guy is a champion lip-reader.
But he needs to bring a “lip speaker” to translate what the jurdge and barristers are saying?
So how can he read off CCTV footage without translation?
Has this descended into farce?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 19, 2023 3:16 pm

He can’t read the lips of counsel asking him questions right in front of him

2 things.
Is the speaker facing you and not speaking quickly.

Both of those mean you might get a few words, but not sentences.

I cant count the amount of times Ive “invented” whole sentences from people based on partial lip reads. Replying to thinks they didnt say.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 19, 2023 3:18 pm

Cassie brought some Obela hummus and guacamole today. If its no good do I see you for a refund?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 19, 2023 3:19 pm

A record. For me, at least.

Ten minutes shy of four hours straight on the phone to three different sets of IT nerds. All unsuccessful, in the end.

The most frequently used commentary by said nerds:

‘Oh. That shouldn’t have happened.’

rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 3:20 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 3:21 pm

Mr Lip Reader introduces the phrase “plying the woman with alcohol”.
He has been briefed by Ten solicitors methinks.

Alamak!
December 19, 2023 3:21 pm

Riddle me this.
The guy is a champion lip-reader.
But he needs to bring a “lip speaker” to translate what the jurdge and barristers are saying?
So how can he read off CCTV footage without translation?
Has this descended into farce?

Better to re-enact the entire event in the courtroom with copious amounts of ingestible liquids, pills & powders. It would be a massive farce of the same order as the trial but way more entertaining.

Perhaps 10 can screen the whole series & recoup some $$$.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 19, 2023 3:28 pm

Mr Lip Reader introduces the phrase “plying the woman with alcohol”.
He has been briefed by Ten solicitors methinks.

Rubbish.
An entirely possible snippet of natural dialogue:

Wanker 1: Bruce, you tosser, whatcha doing?
Wanker 2: Farken plyin’ the woman with alcohol before I take her off to the ministers’ for a good seeing to…

Obviously, he’s not going to get all of it…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 19, 2023 3:30 pm

The lipreader is going as well as you might expect…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 3:30 pm

This is better than OJ’s glove.

Chris
Chris
December 19, 2023 3:31 pm

The most frequently used commentary by said nerds:

‘Oh. That shouldn’t have happened.’

Scenarios involving high explosive, vapour/air mixtures or firearms do not include ‘Reset’ buttons.

amortiser
amortiser
December 19, 2023 3:35 pm

I cant count the amount of times Ive “invented” whole sentences from people based on partial lip reads. Replying to thinks they didnt say.

That’s like my French. I can get the first few words then it’s too fast for me. I’m not fluent and neither is this guy.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 3:35 pm

Dr. Paul Marik Exposes the ‘Biggest Hoax’ in Medicine

Lip reading?

Lysander
Lysander
December 19, 2023 3:35 pm

So Lysander, I assume you believe that the eradication of Hamas is possible, which IS the goal, right?
Don’t get hit by any Unicorns when you go outside.

My ears must’ve been burning.

No, antisemite. I think we continue providing billions of dollars of “aid” to Gaza and continue to be hit by suicide bombers and bullets when we go outside, rather than unicorns.

132andBush
132andBush
December 19, 2023 3:36 pm

KD,

Try turning off then on again.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 19, 2023 3:38 pm

Muddy
Dec 19, 2023 1:36 PM

B.J.
There is so much information of potential historical interest waiting in the various archives to be examined. The digitalisation of records has very much helped me access sources I would not otherwise have had the finances to view.

I helped with the digitisation of the First World War Embarkation Roll. Around 11,000 scanned pages had to be checked against the originals. Since the originals varied in quality from excellent to abysmal, it was a tedious but rewarding task.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
December 19, 2023 3:42 pm

So Aussie courts have gone from frowning on hear say evidence to allowing see say evidence. Progress!

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 19, 2023 3:43 pm

So how can he read off CCTV footage without translation?
Has this descended into farce?

Next they’ll introduce a Doris Stokes-style clairvoyant to allow a couple of departed barristers to give legal opinions. Geoffrey Hughes QC (died 1951) must tell Justice Lee what he thinks.

Chris
Chris
December 19, 2023 3:45 pm

‘You can’t trust them’: ABC credibility has ‘plummeted’ in recent years
19 hours ago
Former Victorian Liberal president Michael Kroger says the ABC is a “disaster” and “no longer trusted”.

ABC Radio National’s flagship news program RN Breakfast has lost a third of its audience since Fran Kelly’s departure two years ago, according to The Australian.

“No Liberal voter in this country, apart from a very small group, trusts the ABC,” he told Sky News contributor Steve Price.

“Trust in the national broadcaster has plummeted in recent years.

“You can’t trust them.”

Toss-up! Victorian Liberals, or the ABC, public trust levels?
I think the billion dollars of tax money every year is perceived as more trusted by the public than the Vic Liberals.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 3:45 pm

thefrollickingmole

Dec 19, 2023 1:52 PM

Brittleknees case on in about ten minutes, Brown finished, think its the lipreader now.

And i will say, doing a fair amount of it myself (being part deaf) it can be very accurate.
However its also susceptible to confirmation bias, once someone tells you what you think was lipread thats all you will see it as.

And now that he is throwing in lines like “plied with alcohol” and “she didn’t want the drink” it demonstrates the confirmation bias.
Here’s the thing.
I have been in a meeting all morning and flicked this on when I got home without knowing who called this guy.
When you can pick who called an “expert” witness within two minutes without being told, it speaks volumes.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 19, 2023 3:47 pm

Dunny Brush
Dec 19, 2023 3:42 PM

pinched…

Figures
Figures
December 19, 2023 3:47 pm

Hopefully the judge will hand out an extra couple of million just for the fact the lip reader has sullied his court.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 3:48 pm

The most frequently used commentary by said nerds:

‘Oh. That shouldn’t have happened.’

That usually comes about three hours after they say, “I just need your laptop for five minutes to instal an update. Won’t take long. What’s that? No … no need to save your work.”

Alamak!
December 19, 2023 3:48 pm

Next they’ll introduce a Doris Stokes-style clairvoyant to allow a couple of departed barristers to give legal opinions. Geoffrey Hughes QC (died 1951) must tell Justice Lee what he thinks.

Good but may not be entertaining. Suggest adding Greek Chorus who can wail and lament (“Shame!”) every time a witness states an action by the guilty party (no need for innocents in these morality sessions).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 3:51 pm

Ten’s legal advisors will be casting around looking for whoever came up with the idea of putting Mr Reedy on the stand.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 19, 2023 3:52 pm

Justice Lee I suspect is thinking ….”how much longer do I have to put with this CH10 charlatan.

He’s gone from trying to read lips to putting words on peoples lips.

Figures
Figures
December 19, 2023 3:58 pm

Isn’t Crysanthou a respected and successful lawyer? Her reputation is done now surely (I know she is for Ms Pirate not Ch 10 but her name will go down along with them). Not saying she shouldn’t have taken the case – although I don’t believe leftists should have the right to defend themselves – but which future defendant would trust her judgement and tactics now?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 19, 2023 3:59 pm

Seeing the lipreader has been …..instructive….

Jurdge not letting that kite fly by the looks at it.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
December 19, 2023 4:00 pm

Did the judge really need a deaf lip reader that needs a lip speaker to understand proceedings, to tell him what to think about the non audio parts of the recording?

You couldn’t make this up.

amortiser
amortiser
December 19, 2023 4:00 pm

“Thank you, Mr Reedy. You have come a long way and you can now return to the United Kingdom. “

Or “thanks for coming, now fcuk off home”.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Turnip
Turnip
December 19, 2023 4:03 pm

Next up…..Professor of Interpretative Dance to give a reading of body language used in a bar.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 19, 2023 4:05 pm

Not many Land Rover fans about, Doc.

Like me probably confused by those red and yellow knobs. Poms!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 19, 2023 4:08 pm

Jurdge did accept as evidence, but with a lot of comments on the weight to be given to it.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 19, 2023 4:12 pm

Wow. A lipreader that can distinguish between woman and women.

My question “could he have said women?”

Cassie of Sydney
December 19, 2023 4:13 pm

“Cassie brought some Obela hummus and guacamole today. If its no good do I see you for a refund?”

Obela products are delicious, you won’t need a refund.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 4:13 pm

thefrollickingmole

Dec 19, 2023 4:08 PM

Jurdge did accept as evidence, but with a lot of comments on the weight to be given to it.

Correct.
He thinks it is bullshit, but leaving it in to avoid an appeal on the grounds of completely ignoring “relevant” evidence.
His “plying her with alcohol” line was clearly an attempt to ingratiate himself with Ten, but waaaay outside his wheelhouse (whatever that is).

rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 4:14 pm

Oh look monogamy is good for women.
What say you clem?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 19, 2023 4:15 pm

Jurdge

did accept as evidence, but with a lot of comments on the weight to be given to it.

Will require a paperweight to keep it in place.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 19, 2023 4:17 pm

A mole of guacas is a lot of guacas.

Avocados number.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 4:22 pm

Under normal circumstances, the uncertainly arising from events in the ME (redirection of shipping away from the Red Sea, increasing instability in the ME) would mean prices should be trending up.

That is well founded and assumed to be true but a. You cannot cut cloth with only one blade of a scissor and b. you’re assuming ceteris paribus, or that is all that is going on.

There could be an expectation of a shortish war and a likely upcoming conclusion to the current Salvic crisis.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 19, 2023 4:23 pm

His “plying her with alcohol” line was clearly an attempt to ingratiate himself with Ten, but waaaay outside his wheelhouse (whatever that is).

Sideshow alley.

calli
calli
December 19, 2023 4:25 pm

Turnip
Dec 19, 2023 4:03 PM
Next up…..Professor of Interpretative Dance to give a reading of body language used in a bar.

Yes, yes.

But have we consulted Zoe Daniel’s children yet? They will have deep insights into the case.

calli
calli
December 19, 2023 4:28 pm

Is “wheelhouse” code for something?

Or did he misread someone’s lips?

Min
Min
December 19, 2023 4:30 pm

Re lip reader and the word root is that still used these days ? I thought it went out with wombat boyfriends

calli
calli
December 19, 2023 4:31 pm

In other news….finally we have some rain. Not much, but I wanted to go outside and dance around a little bit. Until the lightning started doing its thing.

caveman
caveman
December 19, 2023 4:32 pm

Was the CCTV footage in sync for the deaf Japanese midget lip reader.

rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 4:33 pm

Maybe the new land alternatives are negating, to an extent the Red Sea shipping problems.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 4:33 pm

H B Bear

Dec 19, 2023 4:15 PM

Jurdge

did accept as evidence, but with a lot of comments on the weight to be given to it.

Will require a paperweight to keep it in place.

Whybrow did ask Mr Reedy if had received any helpful instructions.
Using Lisa’s super-power of Reading Between the Lines, it seems Mr Reedy has been told the first criminal trial was aborted on the cusp of a guilty verdict and the prosecution was discontinued because Britnah was being hounded and was close to mental collapse. He was further told that this civil trial would be a slam-dunk civil court vindication for Britnah.
His statement reeked of someone who thought he was just throwing another log on the fire around Bruce’s feet.

Cassie of Sydney
December 19, 2023 4:33 pm

I see the down ticker doesn’t like Obela products.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 19, 2023 4:34 pm

gruinaid picks the most vital bit of testimony from the day to highlight…

Bruce Lehrmann defamation trial: lip-reader tells court CCTV footage showed Brittany Higgins was being ‘plied with alcohol’ on night of alleged rape

Prepare to see that regurgitated as “the THING” by lefties forever.

rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 4:35 pm
will
will
December 19, 2023 4:36 pm

rosie
Dec 19, 2023 4:14 PM
Oh look monogamy is good for women.
What say you clem?

and furthermore..in the vein

Lysander
Lysander
December 19, 2023 4:37 pm

“plied her with alcohol”

Hmmm from my lip reading of the tapes it was “supplied her with rock n roll” 😛

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 19, 2023 4:40 pm

Jumped, not pushed (the NT Independent):

Chief Minister Natasha Fyles has resigned following the NT Independent revealing her secret shareholdings in the company that runs the Groote Eylandt manganese mine, which she refused as Health Minister to investigate earlier this year after health issues suspected to be related to the mine were raised by Indigenous Territorians.

The only actual job Fyles has ever had was being a swimming coach for children.

Ms Fyles told the public last month that she had declared all conflicts of interest and shareholdings on her public register, however the NT Independent viewed copies of the South32 share register last week that showed she had 754 shares in the company worth less than $2500 that she had not publicly disclosed, breaching various rules for politicians.

Fyles wasn’t malicious in the mold of her predecessor Michael Gunner (think of a C Grade Daniel Andrews), but just clueless. She was another member of the NT Parliamentary coven of bored housewives who equated length of service as an MP/MLA with competence.

They were coming for her in any event. Two weeks ago it broke that one of her chief advisors was heavily connected with an offshore mining concern, which Fyles – absolutely coincidentally, apparently – also held shares in, and which she also failed to declare.

A shitshow of the first order.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 19, 2023 4:41 pm

Has Groogs still got those tapes?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 4:43 pm

Oops.
It seems that messages O’Connor (Qld MP and former employer of Britnah) claims to have on his phone aren’t on her phone.
“Clearing out my phone ahead of the Police.”

calli
calli
December 19, 2023 4:44 pm

I see the down ticker doesn’t like Obela products.

Cass…the nut doesn’t like you. They wouldn’t know an Obela product if they tripped over it and it bit them on the bum.

Bask in your culinary discernment.

This one enjoys crow.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 4:45 pm

So what you’re saying is that the oil market is just hoping and planning for the best.

No. It is difficult to capture all information, likely impossible for an individual human. That’s what prices do.

That said, all firms can do is have a shot. They can’t cover all possible contingencies. A producer never knows when a rival will make a massive discovery. Further upstream it is more entrepreneurial. If people knew where oil (or gold, or water) was, then the value of each producable tenement would be priced like commercial property, not remote waste land (the dry/duster holes).

AAPL certainly wasn’t a sure thing to begin with, nor was Nike.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 4:46 pm

The Jurdge is about to go on the attack against “Scurrilous Abuse” on social meeja.
Rafiki, I don’t think that includes articles in the Oz critical of Toad and Llewellyn.

Roger
Roger
December 19, 2023 4:46 pm

QLD Premier suggesting climate change was the driver of NQ flooding.

Crisafulli probably agrees with him.

BOM spokesperson insisting warnings were issued; trouble is most people didn’t seem to get them until they were camped on their roof.

Oh…and Albanese’s cut short his WEB to get in front of the cameras and look authoritative.

Cassie of Sydney
December 19, 2023 4:47 pm

I thought the ‘lip reader’ was supposed to try and read the verbal exchanges of the participants of that night, particularly the two ‘stars’ of the evening, Lehrmann and Higgins. I didn’t think it was the role of a lip reader to imagine or make up dialogue to suit Channel Ten.

By the way, lip reading is an art and has been and is used used by many deaf people. Lip reading can be very accurate. The late Prince Phillip’s mother, Princess Alice, was profoundly deaf from birth and she was taught to lip read in four languages by her mother.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 4:47 pm

will
Dec 19, 2023 4:36 PM
rosie
Dec 19, 2023 4:14 PM
Oh look monogamy is good for women.
What say you clem?

and furthermore..in the vein

will

That banger video from hoe_math is a Certified Hood Classic.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 4:49 pm

Gosh, I hope my jokes drawing a correlation between BMI and BAC aren’t in contempt.
Dover, can you delete anything I said about Britnah.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 19, 2023 4:51 pm

alwaysright
Dec 19, 2023 4:17 PM
A mole of guacas is a lot of guacas.

Avocados number.

Verrrry witty.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 19, 2023 4:56 pm

Have you thought about rural France?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 19, 2023 5:00 pm

2 Very Fat (Knickerless?) Porkers leave the Country with Australian Labor Taxpayers Gift wearing White

What are the chances this will be the last publicity stunt from David Sharaz and his latest fiancé Brittany Higgins?

Brittany and David flew out for a life in France today – to live in the little French home the Australian taxpayer financed.

Remarkably, there was a photographic agency there to capture it all to sell to the newspapers.

Ms Higgins, her parents Kelly and Matthew, and Mr Sharaz all wore white outfits at the airport — the women’s suffragette colour, which Ms Higgins wore at the Women’s March for Justice in March.

Johnny Rotten
December 19, 2023 5:04 pm

When Prince William wedded a lass,

We ogled the real upper class.

But it was no surprise,

That most of our eyes,

were fixed on her hot sister’s ass.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 19, 2023 5:06 pm

Inflation Forces Head Of Turkish Central Bank To Move Back In With Her Parents

With inflation making the focus of the American electorate going into an election year, calls for the heads of central bankers reverberate from the nation’s political discourse now more than ever.

While the central bankers of the Federal Reserve have rightfully been cast into a villainous light for their excessive avarice, the new head of Turkey’s central bank is far from the Palatine Hill her American counterparts look down on the masses from.

Due to even more rampant inflation Governor of the Central Bank of Turkey Hafize Gaye Erkan has been forced to move back in with her parents.

The 44-year-old Erkan took up her post in June following two decades in the United States where she honed her career trajectory at some of the world’s most reviled — err, renowned — financial firms.

Erkan previously worked at the likes of Goldman Sachs and First Republic Bank.

Upon returning to her homeland, she now finds herself on the other side of the economic upheaval enveloping markers across the world.

Based on the most recent available economic data, YoY inflation in Turkey for November stood at 61%.

As disastrous as that metric is, there’s not much of a light at the end of the tunnel for Turks with economics forecasting inflation to rise as much as 75% YoY by May 2024.

This downward spiral has ushered in a series of rate hikes, the latest of which saw the Turkish Central Bank increase its main interest rate to 40% in November following a previous 35% rate hike made in October.

Despite this effort to tame in inflation, even Erkan can’t seem to escape the rising costs that have drastically diminished the quality of life for her Turkish compatriots.

“Is it possible that Istanbul has gotten more expensive than Manhattan?” she said, opining about the major reality shock she’s faced since moving back to her homeland from New York.

The revelation that she and her husband felt they had no choice but to move back in with her parents was made to prominent Turkish newspaper Hurriyet in which she expounded upon seeing the economic reality averages Turks face for herself, stating

“We haven’t found a home in Istanbul. It’s terribly expensive. We’ve moved in with my parents,”

Lysander
Lysander
December 19, 2023 5:08 pm

Look, I’m more Catholic than the Pope (which isn’t hard) but I still support Israel 100%, even despite this:

Two Catholics shot in Gaza and convent “targeted” by tanks.

https://www.lpj.org/posts/gaza-16th-december-2023.html (Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem)

Lysander
Lysander
December 19, 2023 5:11 pm

Ms Higgins, her parents Kelly and Matthew, and Mr Sharaz all wore white outfits at the airport

I await the same elicited reactions from Leftards who made obscene comments regarding the Abbott family election night dress decisions.

Chris
Chris
December 19, 2023 5:12 pm

Under normal circumstances, the uncertainly arising from events in the ME (redirection of shipping away from the Red Sea, increasing instability in the ME) would mean prices should be trending up.

Except that whenever we make a bet on this simplistic level, we tend to end up wrong.

JC
JC
December 19, 2023 5:12 pm

The oil market is fake because the price came down and petrol hasn’t moved or the Suez is blocked and the market is fake because oil hasn’t gone up enough?

Big, big call the oil market is fake.

Under normal circumstances, the uncertainly arising from events in the ME (redirection of shipping away from the Red Sea, increasing instability in the ME) would mean prices should be trending up

Oil is doing what it always does during tensions. It went up after the murders on 7th October – as folks began to stock up fearful of a wider conflict. When that didn’t come to pass, and stocks were well up, with the US output rising, the oil price fell. No biggie 🙂

I have a theory on why domestic petrol prices aren’t falling commensurately. If I was running a retail petrol operation, I’d look to see if demand fell as prices rose sometimes hitting close to $2.50 a liter. If demand didn’t fall much I wouldn’t be in a hurry to cut prices if other retailers weren’t. Despite what some people believe, there is such a thing as a market and profit motive. It works too, funnily enough. Businesses aren’t just there to act as utilities.

Johnny Rotten
December 19, 2023 5:13 pm

calli
Dec 19, 2023 4:44 PM
I see the down ticker doesn’t like Obela products.

Cass…the nut doesn’t like you. They wouldn’t know an Obela product if they tripped over it and it bit them on the bum.

Bask in your culinary discernment.

This one enjoys crow.

4 3

So, Junior Cretin and Mrs Stencho Pantyhose, who do you you KNOW who is doing the Down Thumbs? And please use your latest Internet analysis and Dark Web stuffy stuff to assist.

Johnny Rotten
December 19, 2023 5:17 pm

I have a theory on why domestic petrol prices aren’t falling commensurately. If I was running a retail petrol operation, I’d look to see if demand fell as prices rose sometimes hitting close to $2.50 a liter.

LOL closet Yank. It’s a Litre and not a Liter.

Chris
Chris
December 19, 2023 5:18 pm

Inflation Forces Head Of Turkish Central Bank To Move Back In With Her Parents

Erkan previously worked at the likes of Goldman Sachs and First Republic Bank.

Upon returning to her homeland, she now finds herself on the other side of the economic upheaval enveloping markers across the world.

Based on the most recent available economic data, YoY inflation in Turkey for November stood at 61%.

As disastrous as that metric is, there’s not much of a light at the end of the tunnel for Turks with economics forecasting inflation to rise as much as 75% YoY by May 2024.

When a family member was teaching English in Istanbul in the 1990s she told me her Turkish friends would beg to change her GBP to Liras for her – not to make money but to enjoy holding a stable currency for a few minutes.

JC
JC
December 19, 2023 5:22 pm

So, Junior Cretin and Mrs Stencho Pantyhose, who do you you KNOW who is doing the Down Thumbs? And please use your latest Internet analysis and Dark Web stuffy stuff to assist.

Pretty certain it’s mostly you fckface. You’ve admitted to downticking comments by people you don’t like, you’ve also said you spam the site with the marty-the-fraud out of sheet spite and lastly, you’re a typical, sneaky lowscale limey crook with a heavy chip on your shoulder.

Cassie of Sydney
December 19, 2023 5:23 pm

“Two Catholics shot in Gaza and convent “targeted” by tanks.

https://www.lpj.org/posts/gaza-16th-december-2023.html (Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem)”

I doubt they were deliberately targeted. Still, it is dreadful. Just like the IDF sniper shooting dead the three male hostages. I grieve for the innocents, for the hostages, and for these two women. I do NOT shed any tears for the Islamist Gazan Nazis who choose murder, rape and terror.

People forget things, remember how in 2002 Palestinian terrorists deliberately chose the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem to hide from the IDF. The Church was then surrounded by the IDF who were after those terrorists, for over a month.

Here’s a fact…Islamists have no respect for synagogues, churches, Jews or Christians.

JC
JC
December 19, 2023 5:24 pm

LOL closet Yank. It’s a Litre and not a Liter.

Another worthwhile comment by the limey crook. When he’s not spamming Marty or quotes, he’s really struggling.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
December 19, 2023 5:27 pm

I’ll downtick any of youse who buys ready made guacamole

Chris
Chris
December 19, 2023 5:32 pm

Here’s a fact…Islamists have no respect for synagogues, churches, Jews or Christians.

However, they do respond correctly to bullets.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 19, 2023 5:35 pm

Two Catholics shot in Gaza

The IDF says it wasn’t them.

JC
JC
December 19, 2023 5:35 pm

Listened to an interesting podcast today giving an excellent example how fake news can be “fakenews” and you really can’t trust much these days.

Rolling Stone magazine ran a lengthy hit piece on Tesla stating that there was a recent massive recall of Tesla cars suggesting was really bad..

We learned the following.

1. Tesla wasn’t a recall in the traditional sense. No cars had to go in.

2. The “recall” was a software update that actually improved the automated driving software and there was no actual “fault” as such.

3. The owner of Rolling Stone is by a private equity firm wholly owned by someone by the name of Penske.

4. If you’ve spent anytime in the US you would know Penske is a very large auto dealership with over 200 spots scattered across the country.

5. The private equity firm is owned by the son of Penske the car dealer.

6. Penske Motors is a competitor to Tesla.

Lysander
Lysander
December 19, 2023 5:37 pm

I doubt they were deliberately targeted. Still, it is dreadful.

I used the term “targeted” as a quote as I doubt it too. I don’t want to make little of any innocents’ deaths but the convent would be fine if October 7 never happened.

JC
JC
December 19, 2023 5:39 pm

I’m not convinced by the explanations so far on the current oil price. It simply doesn’t reflect the sort of prudence you would expect.

Okay, so run with the conspiracy angle then. What can anyone tell you?

If there’s an oversupply in the market prices fall. Stop thinking too hard.

The impact of those idiots in Yemen could actually be impacting the price anyway. If they weren’t taking pot shots at commercial shipping, the price would be lower still.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 5:39 pm

H B Bear

Dec 19, 2023 4:56 PM

Have you thought about rural France?

Nous respirons le pouvoir.
Qu’ils mangent du gâteau.
Going to be hard for Sharaz to launch a political career from there.

dopey
dopey
December 19, 2023 5:39 pm

Australian media sent crews looking for Trimboli, Skase and others. They’ll be coming for Brittnee, sure as eggs.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 19, 2023 5:44 pm

I really wish that articles like this would have a much greater exposure, particularly to those who watch the msm, ALPBC etc etc.

#MakSiccarStandsWithIsrael

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/israel/2023/12/who-is-none-too-keen-on-jews/

Conclusion

WHO demonstrably applies an unreasonable and arguably unlawful standard of conduct to Israel. Mirroring the bigotry of the UN this behaviour sets Israel apart from other states by persistently painting it as a severe violator of health rights. The WHO’s actions in the 2023 war in Gaza exemplify this apartheid. They fan the flames of anti-Semitism worldwide by perpetuating anti-Israel falsehoods while ignoring Hamas’ responsibility for the ongoing conflict and the resultant hardships of its citizens. This longstanding, biased treatment of Israel demonizes the Jewish state, dehumanizes the Jewish people, and delegitimizes its right to continued existence. It damages the WHO’s credibility, escalates mistrust in justice, and impedes opportunities for diplomacy to work.

WHO has shown itself incapable of the internal reforms needed to remove systemic anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism. Little will change until it finds the will to introduce fair accountability structures, such as independent oversight. Only then can WHO, and indeed the UN, help to achieve a fair and lasting peace in the region.

Frank
Frank
December 19, 2023 5:48 pm

The checkout cameras search for items in the trolley.

If you put something like a red capsicum on the scales and then press the fruit and veg button to weight it the camera tries to guess what you did. You get presented with all the red fruit and veg items in a list to choose from. Impressive the first time you twig to it, creepy after that.

Lysander
Lysander
December 19, 2023 5:51 pm

Well it took me reading about 25 pages of turgid Fox News reporting and quotes from the Red Papa… buried at the end of the article was this:

“During the dialogue between the IDF and representatives of the community, no reports of a hit on the church, nor civilians being injured or killed, were raised. A review of the IDF’s operational findings support this.”

The fog of war. I wouldn’t blame Israel for any casualties. Period. Dumarse started this, they always do and innocents suffer because of them. Period.

I might go too far but perhaps one could read Genesis 18:16-33 where Abraham pleads for Sodom and Gommorah to be saved. We all know how that ended (and you can still find sulphur balls in these two towns, dating to the same era).

caveman
caveman
December 19, 2023 5:58 pm

I didn’t think it was the role of a lip reader to imagine or make up dialogue to suit Channel Ten

Get with the program baby. It’s totally fab and out of this world , you feel the vibes and just go for it.
It’s called interperative evidence, it’s a gas, yeah right on.

Indolent
Indolent
December 19, 2023 5:58 pm
Roger
Roger
December 19, 2023 5:58 pm

The checkout cameras search for items in the trolley.

One camera is focused on the basket/trolley, the other is on your face.

May not be in all stores yet; possibly trialing it in stores with high theft rates?

P
P
December 19, 2023 5:59 pm

Hundreds attend Christmas interfaith remembrance service
The Catholic Weekly -By Staff Writers – December 19, 2023

Excerpts:

Bishop Terence Brady led the service which featured readers and singers from different faith backgrounds including Fowler MP Dai Le, who lost her mother this year.

Attendees had the opportunity to light a candle at the front of the cathedral to celebrate the life of their loved one, and recited the names of those they wanted to remember.

At the conclusion, attendees moved to cathedral square to view the stunning light show that is part of Christmas at the Cathedral.

Catholic Cemeteries and Crematoria chief executive officer Lauren Hardgrove said the annual service has created strong and respectful alliances with many faith groups including the Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish and indigenous communities.

It provides support to those who may find it difficult to celebrate the Christmas period without their family or friends and is an integral part of Catholic Cemeteries’ mission of care and compassion for all in the community, she said.

“The service is always well-received by those who attend, who appreciate being able to honour those who still hold a place in their hearts, from whatever background they may come from,” she said.

Indolent
Indolent
December 19, 2023 5:59 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
December 19, 2023 6:00 pm

Ms Higgins, her parents Kelly and Matthew, and Mr Sharaz all wore white outfits at the airport

Will last a month in poor old Lunas, once she discovers a) no baristas to serve her, b) no tabloid journos following her around interested in taking a pic of her looking casual and studied in a cafe, and c) none of the locals is remotely interested in her past life.

(In fact once the Frogs find out the story they will piss themselves laughing…not only at her but at a government handing out millions of cash)

Brittnnneee get change the spelling of her name; get bored with posting pix of herself on social media, and start planning on how to get back in the spotlight. Maybe she could ring Hazza and Megs for some guidance.

Johnny Rotten
December 19, 2023 6:04 pm

Pretty certain it’s mostly you fckface. You’ve admitted to downticking comments by people you don’t like,

No Junior Cretin, it is people like you that I don’t like either on the Internet or in like Real Life.

And a Down Thumb which is for some reason something you cannot see as a tick but in reality as a thumb. Most probably because it is stuck up your fat arse. LOL

Go back to NYC and eat more KFC and get fatter………………………

Indolent
Indolent
December 19, 2023 6:05 pm

This is the crowd who wants to run our lives through medical mandates.

WHO chief thanks Ireland for ‘moral leadership’ on Gaza

Alamak!
December 19, 2023 6:06 pm

Still, I’d like to see you or anyone else answer what event would spook the market here?

Any missiles aimed at Saudi oil fields or facilities or ports would make this a bit “exciting” for the markets. Degree of “exciting” depending on who uses Saudi crude, where it gets refined, levels of reserve stocks, how fast other producers could fill supply gaps, revenge strikes by Saudis(if they could), insurance costs, tanker costs, alternate routes to refineries etc etc.

Commodities are super interesting because everything gets complicated real fast. You can ask ChatGPT for an answer but it would be telling lies.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 19, 2023 6:06 pm

Going to be hard for Sharaz to launch a political career from there.

Exactly. They usually end there on a cycling tour with someone special from the ALPBC.

JC
JC
December 19, 2023 6:07 pm

Still, I’d like to see you or anyone else answer what event would spook the market here?

Large Middle East oil fields being attacked. The Red Sea thing appears to be an annoyance.

Look, there’s not a single oil producer who doesn’t want to sell oil mainly because US oil production has provided some insurance.

Saudis, Iranians, Russia all need to sell oil to keep shit going.
Sudden price hikes in the oil price isn’t mainly coming from the consumer side as oil generally can find a work around impediments like what those Yemeni imbeciles are trying. The scare is always that something happens to the production side like Mid East oil fields going kaboom. That doesn’t look like happening at the moment.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 19, 2023 6:08 pm

Don’t forget the European study tour to cover flights.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 19, 2023 6:08 pm

Remarkably, there was a photographic agency there to capture it all to sell to the newspapers.

Do these 2 honestly think they will be the next movers & shakers?

Shiraz cozies up with a small section of the political spectrum, greens/ALP far left and there’s a slight chance Brit could be having to pay back at least some of that payout.

15min after this is all over they will be yesterdays news and virtual nobodies again.

Muddy
Muddy
December 19, 2023 6:10 pm

Boambee John
Dec 19, 2023 3:38 PM

I helped with the digitisation of the First World War Embarkation Roll. … Since the originals varied in quality from excellent to abysmal, it was a tedious but rewarding task.

Well done. Volunteers such as yourself have made it possible for archives to not only broaden public access to historical documents, but also to preserve such information in a new format, when the original material (usually paper) is substantially degraded.

The Trove database of the National Library – which various Cats are aware of – is another which has greatly benefited from volunteers. I’ve found the newspapers section of Trove to be vital in finding background info for another project – a biography of an individual long dead – though one of course needs to apply some healthy skepticism to such sources.

The digitisation of the AWM52 WWII war diaries has been fantastic, and saved me an awful lot of (not-yet-existent) money.

Next on my wish-list is spending a week or two in Canberra examining certain files in the National Archives there, but that will have to wait until the lotto people call me!

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 19, 2023 6:10 pm

Maybe she could ring Hazza and Megs for some guidance.

Need to be quick.

Roger
Roger
December 19, 2023 6:10 pm

Ms Higgins, her parents Kelly and Matthew, and Mr Sharaz all wore white outfits at the airport…

Going to be hard for Sharaz to launch a political career from there.

Because nothing says “girl power” like putting your career on hold so your boyfriend, a figure of somewhat less than salubrious repute*, can sponge off you in a foreign country indefinitely for some undisclosed reason.

And the press laps it up.

* Mr Sharaz denies any and all wrongdoing in relation to this matter.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 19, 2023 6:14 pm

Ms Higgins, her parents Kelly and Matthew, and Mr Sharaz all wore white outfits at the airport

I await the same elicited reactions from Leftards who made obscene comments regarding the Abbott family election night dress decisions.

Already done, seen on twitter along the lines of “wearing white in support of sexual assault victims”…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 19, 2023 6:14 pm

1. Tesla wasn’t a recall in the traditional sense. No cars had to go in.

2. The “recall” was a software update that actually improved the automated driving software and there was no actual “fault” as such.

I worked in auto for a while.
They avoid the “R word” – Recall – like the plague. And with good reason. An immediate recall outside the normal service cycle costs a bomb, and usually rebounds in large part to the component supplier.
Improvements which don’t have an immediate safety risk are usually carried forward to the next scheduled service. Given they would plug the car into a diagnostic compuda anyway, the unit cost of uploading revised software during servicing would be approximately zero.

Lysander
Lysander
December 19, 2023 6:14 pm

Catholic Cemeteries and Crematoria chief executive officer Lauren Hardgrove said the annual service has created strong and respectful alliances with many faith groups including the Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish and indigenous communities.

And so begins your downfall Crematoria.

A few years ago I did some work with the WA Christian Bros, until they started inviting an Imam to “concelebrate” the Holy Eucharist. Sure, it’s inclusive and warm and fuzzy but it’s also a signal of the end, hence no Christian Bros future.

JC
JC
December 19, 2023 6:16 pm

No Junior Cretin, it is people like you that I don’t like either on the Internet or in like Real Life.

I can live with that.

And a Down Thumb which is for some reason something you cannot see as a tick but in reality as a thumb. Most probably because it is stuck up your fat arse. LOL

No it’s ………………….. LOL. You’re so funny.

Go back to NYC and eat more KFC and get fatter

Why don’t you head back to the shithole you came from and take wongpenny with you, you little limey crook.

I’m actually quite trim and in great shape, fckface.

Always trying to start stoushes and then pretending its others that do. You’re so dense, you really think people buy into your lowrent crap. You crook.
Previous ‘work” before promoting the fraud was stealing people’s wallets.

Indolent
Indolent
December 19, 2023 6:18 pm
cohenite
December 19, 2023 6:21 pm

One of the best analyses of the islamic/palli culture, aided and abetted by Western leftist scum in the context of 10/7:

Hamas groomed an army of angry, insecure, wife-beating psychopaths and gave them permission to rape, mutilate and kill Israeli men, women, and children. The terror organization drugged these psychopaths, told them to videotape their atrocities, and offered them a $10,000 reward for taking hostages. Hamas savages were high on captagon, Israeli blood, and visions of martyrdom. They believed that they were heroes righting wrongs and injustices by killing and violating the “oppressors” who stole and occupy their land.

The October 7th attack on Israel can be partly attributed to the red-green alliance of radical leftists and Islamists who foster a cult of Palestinian victimhood. The coalition of radicals that divide the world into oppressors and oppressed has generated one of the most successful long-term global information operations by making the Palestinian-Israeli conflict a cause célèbre. Decades of calculated anti-American, anti-Zionist, anti-capitalist, anti-colonialist, oppressor-themed propaganda has resulted in “Palestinian solidarity” and support from Americans and people around the world. Disinformation campaigns combined with shame-based indoctrination techniques facilitated Oct. 7th — and its aftermath of worldwide antisemitic, anti-Israel protests and hate crimes.

The propaganda strategy portraying Palestinians as helpless victims against Israeli aggression is calculated to evoke deep-seated feelings of humiliation and shame that prompts violence. The Palestinians, similar to many other Muslim Arab males, belong to what is referred to as an ‘Honor – Shame’ culture, in which men are in a constant struggle with fear of dishonor and maintaining “reputation.” Emotions of weakness, helplessness and shame are always just below the surface, triggered by a hypersensitivity to any real or perceived act of humiliation. Honor and reputation are everything and can only be restored through violent bloodshed which washes away the insult.

Palestinian men who are continually portrayed in the media as weak, powerless, demeaned, and humiliated by Israel often relieve their feeling of shame and inadequacy by beating their wives. This is exemplified by the extremely high rate of Palestinian domestic violence. According to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, in 2019, over seventy percent of the women in the Gaza Strip were exposed to violence from their husbands. The United Nations Fund for Population Activities (UNFPA) attributes Gender Based Violence in Gaza to ‘traditional patriarchal norms and values’ and then justifies violence against women by blaming Israel for frustrating Gazan men.

Domestic Violence is very prevalent in honor-shame cultures and is referred to as honor violence and honor killing. Honor violence is extremely brutal and includes everything from beating, raping, shooting, stabbing, strangling, hanging, and worse. The women’s offenses typically include being too westernized, refusing an arranged marriage, not being properly covered, or just posting a photo on social media. If Palestinian men are willing to beat, rape, and murder their own wives, sisters, and daughters who have allegedly brought dishonor upon the family, it is not surprising that they committed extreme sexual atrocities, murder, and mutilation against Israelis whom they perceive as the primary cause of their dishonor.

During the October 7th attack on Israel, Hamas terrorists raped, gang-raped, beheaded, burned, mutilated, disfigured, and tortured men, women, children, the elderly and the disabled. Hamas terrorists chopped off fingers, arms and feet, gouged out eyes, obliterated faces and tied up dozens of people — including children — before burning them alive. They cut an unborn baby out of a pregnant woman, stabbed the baby with a knife and shot the mother in the head. Sexual atrocities included targeting the genitalia of male and female victims, cutting off breasts, castrating men, and shooting women in the vagina. The body of one woman had “nails and different objects in her female organs.”

Girls were so brutally gang-raped that their pelvic bones were broken. For Hamas terrorists, rape is not just a weapon of war, it is a way to alleviate their feelings of inadequacy, prove their manhood, demonstrate what they think signifies superior masculinity, and to ridicule, taunt and torment Israeli men who are unable, at gunpoint, to protect their women and children.

Symbolically, raping women in war signifies conquered territory and the rape of a nation. During their attack, Hamas terrorists raped not only women but men as well. The symbolic meaning of male-on-male rape is that the victims are being turned into women, which from a Palestinian hypermasculine and homophobic culture is one of the worst forms of humiliation. For Palestinians, shame is experienced as female traits of weakness. Hamas terrorists raped and tortured Israeli men to expunge their own hidden shame and project their humiliation onto their alleged oppressors. Similar to prison culture, the victims become their “bitch.” The rationale is, “he, and not me, is actually the woman.”

Hamas terrorists also castrated many of the Israeli men. According to testimony by a female police officer at a presentation to the United Nations, men were shot in their genitalia. The officer added, “They had a thing with sexual organs — both in women and in men, either amputation or targeted shooting [to that part of the body].” Male sexual organs symbolize masculinity, strength, and the reproduction of more enemy occupiers. Dishonor is signified by female qualities; hence, castration is the ultimate symbol of emasculation and implies that the victim is no longer a man. Historically, castration was used to eliminate potential opponents….

https://www.frontpagemag.com/hamas-lust-for-mutilation-murder-sexual-atrocity/

Lysander
Lysander
December 19, 2023 6:21 pm

I shouldn’t wade into things I don’t understand, such as the price of oil, but over my short four and a half decades on this Earth, there is one pattern I’ve always noticed (and I wonder if it can be backed by historical data):

Every now and then the price of oil takes a really big leap before settling down to a “new normal.” This new normal is still much higher than it was previously but is not as high as the initial “oil shock.” It’s almost like a normalisation where peeps go “oh gee, thank God it’s not as high as it was” (when it is).

Every time it happens, I thinks to myself: A Saudi Prince bought a new mansion.

Am I imagining this?

Roger
Roger
December 19, 2023 6:22 pm

A few years ago I did some work with the WA Christian Bros, until they started inviting an Imam to “concelebrate” the Holy Eucharist.

What the…?

Indolent
Indolent
December 19, 2023 6:23 pm

Dr. John Cambpell with Andrew Bridgen’s contribution.

WHO debate, UK parliament

rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 6:27 pm

Why would an imam want to concelebrate the Eucharist?
They don’t believe that Christ is God.

Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 6:32 pm

Once again: Trump will have a politically re-aligning win in ’24.

The cheating by the Democrats in 2024 will be so massive — underscored by the American left’s Trump derangement (lefties have no idea why a corruption-buster is popular is popular in the West’s new home of putrid political corruption, Washington DC) — Trump will need to carry the swing states by 10%+ to have any chance of victory.

My tip is that, faced with four more years of a puppet DNC presidency doing everything possible to piss off middle America, Trump will win in a landslide, which will translate into Trump being a few hundred thousand votes ahead nationally after the cheats have done their worst.

Then the Never Trump American judiciary will get involved. God help us.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 19, 2023 6:32 pm

When Prince William wedded a lass,

We ogled the real upper class.

But it was no surprise,

That most of our eyes,

were fixed on her hot sister’s ass.

I do recall a certain amount of speculation as to whether the young lady was “doing a Brittanny, indeed.”

Johnny Rotten
December 19, 2023 6:32 pm

Little limey crook.?

LOL. How about Mafioso Fat Pizza Bandit. With a Big Fat Arse and BIG Nose, And a small appendage. (small dickus dickus).

So, where is the evidence of being a crook? Where is it? You Tosser. Where is it?

You are just all Bluster and a Pompous Windbag.

Roger
Roger
December 19, 2023 6:32 pm

Why would an imam want to concelebrate the Eucharist?
They don’t believe that Christ is God.

Yes.

Lysander, are you sure you haven’t got your wires crossed?

Concelebration is a very specific term.

Was he there perhaps to say a prayer (bad enough!).

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 19, 2023 6:34 pm

Still, I’d like to see you or anyone else answer what event would spook the market here?

Large Middle East oil fields being attacked. The Red Sea thing appears to be an annoyance.

This is what the market is saying – although perhaps a little more than annoyance.
There is presently no production or terminal disruption and apparently sufficient tanker capacity in the market to manage the additional 10-day journey around the Cape.

Landed prices in exposed terminal markets will have increased due to the disruption to the Red Sea transit and increase in freight and insurance – but not much change to the supply fundamentals.

Lysander
Lysander
December 19, 2023 6:34 pm

True story Roger and Rosie.

Who knows what “new age” and inclusive decisions have been made by idiotic Catholics in these last few years.

One only has to look at Papa Rossi’s latest edict on ssm unions.

Man, I’m seriously thinking of becoming Jewish! I have the Shemma on my front door, on my gold ring, I pray Jewish psalms everyday and even a kippah! 😛

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 19, 2023 6:36 pm

Hamas groomed an army of angry, insecure, wife-beating psychopaths and gave them permission to rape, mutilate and kill Israeli men, women, and children.

Oh, you mighty warriors of Allah! Oh, you fearless soldiers of Islam!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 19, 2023 6:38 pm

Trump, Hairy assures me, would nut out such a solution in half a day.

2 5

Is it Trump’s ability to negotiate that you downtickers disagree with, or me?

Hard to tell if you are not prepared to speak up.

I’m serious in trying to address what are the immediate possibilities for security, order and reconstruction when Israel calls halt in Gaza.

Lysander
Lysander
December 19, 2023 6:39 pm

Concelebration is a very specific term.

Indeed Roger. He was there “to pray alongside his Christian brethren.” But I think even reading a few lines of the Eucharistic Prayer (vII) from the Roman Missael is “concelebrating.”

IMHO, the mass was null and void.

Roger
Roger
December 19, 2023 6:42 pm

True story Roger and Rosie.

Not a Catholic, but I’m beginning to think the Sedevacantists have a point – something fundamental changed with Vatican II, and not for the better.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 19, 2023 6:42 pm

You are just all Bluster

Said the ‘part-time bovver boy’.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 19, 2023 6:42 pm

I do recall a certain amount of speculation as to whether the young lady was “doing a Brittanny, indeed.”

You’re not going to get that from a broadsheet.

JC
JC
December 19, 2023 6:43 pm

Yemen can hit those oil fields, one of the main reasons SA and UAE said ‘No’ to participating in the US naval operation, but that might still not help them in the end.

Okay.

As for Russia, they would certainly gain from an interruption in oil supplies from PG. It would kill completely the price cap and would certainly shift the relationship with China.

In the very short term and then, of it’s serious the world heads into depression and that’s not good for Russia either.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 19, 2023 6:44 pm

Any missiles aimed at Saudi oil fields or facilities or ports would make this a bit “exciting” for the markets.

Since Saudi and UAE aren’t in the coalition of the willing for the Red Sea fleet it suggests there’s a deal between the Yemeni parties that Saudi is keeping to. They didn’t like their petrochemical plants being shot up.

So far the Houthis are respecting the deal, whatever it is, since they aren’t targeting Saudi stuff.

And Saudi, Iran and China have just had a nice chat.

1st meeting of China-Saudi Arabia-Iran trilateral joint committee concludes; MidEast should ‘no longer be geopolitical arena’ for great powers (16 Dec)

Chris
Chris
December 19, 2023 6:45 pm

Oh, you mighty warriors of Allah! Oh, you fearless soldiers of Islam!

May God give these people what they deserve.

Roger
Roger
December 19, 2023 6:46 pm

But I think even reading a few lines of the Eucharistic Prayer (vII) from the Roman Missael is “concelebrating.”

I think that would indeed be the case, Lysander.

miltonf
miltonf
December 19, 2023 6:47 pm

Piggins and its boyfriend are like a post modern Bonnie and Clyde but I’m sure Bonnie and Clyde were much more interesting.

Johnny Rotten
December 19, 2023 6:49 pm

How about Mafioso Fat Pizza Bandit. With a Big Fat Arse and BIG Nose, And a small appendage. (small dickus dickus).

So, where is the evidence of being a crook? Where is it? You Tosser. Where is it?

Over to you Junior Crook…………………..

Muddy
Muddy
December 19, 2023 6:50 pm

Ms Higgins, her parents Kelly and Matthew, and Mr Sharaz all wore white outfits at the airport

This seems like an outrageous case of white flight flaunting white privilege to me.

JC
JC
December 19, 2023 6:51 pm

Johnny Rotten
Dec 19, 2023 6:32 PM

Little limey crook.?

Totally.

LOL. How about Mafioso Fat Pizza Bandit. With a Big Fat Arse and BIG Nose, And a small appendage. (small dickus dickus).

Totally comfortable with your characterization, Bovs.

So, where is the evidence of being a crook? Where is it? You Tosser. Where is it?

Your general comportment and overall behavior. Toasting an unrepentant fraudster whose blogging is absolute dumb, dishonest tripe. Lying. Starting stoushes like this one and then pretending you’re victim of abuse. Did I say, lying?

You are just all Bluster and a Pompous Windbag.

Okay. I’d imagine you weren’t even that good as a pick pocket.

You’re boring now, bugger off as you have a lot of ticking to do bovver boy.

Johnny Rotten
December 19, 2023 6:52 pm

JC
Dec 19, 2023 6:43 PM

You Pompous Windbag………………………LOL

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 19, 2023 6:53 pm

Crysanthou hangs Mrs Pirate out to dry Teh Paywallian reporting. Every woman for themselves at this point.

bons
bons
December 19, 2023 6:54 pm

I recall one of the principal organisers of the wedding (Lord ? ??) sounding off furiously about the ‘dress’ and her inability to accommodate underwear in the outfit.

I would have thought that ‘is Lordship would have approved heartily, “damn fine seat that gel”.

132andBush
132andBush
December 19, 2023 6:55 pm

Lizzie, where are you getting this info that PA are Hamas supporters?

I think they still pay family members of people killed while trying to kill Jews.
They’re one and the same, internecine conflict notwithstanding.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 19, 2023 6:56 pm

May God give these people what they deserve.

A lingering death, screaming in agony. Not that I’m a vindictive soul, mind you.

JC
JC
December 19, 2023 6:57 pm

Interesting to see how an additional 10 days per journey affects not only the oil business but goods delivery in the short term.

And you think the oil market hasn’t discounted that?

Johnny Rotten
December 19, 2023 6:57 pm

JC
Dec 19, 2023 6:51 PM

Apparently it is you that has the paranoia about the the Down Thumbs. So some of those Down Thumbs went up your down bumbs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,LOL

Have a nice day if you can…………………………

Lysander
Lysander
December 19, 2023 7:00 pm

Not a Catholic, but I’m beginning to think the Sedevacantists have a point

Am a Catholic and, on the contrary, think the sedevacantists have a few (misguided) points. For a few reasons, that I won’t get the luxury to discuss this evening:

1. Sedevacantists, generally, loved John Paul II (despite his view of them lol!) so you can hardly hold the seat of Rome as vacant since Vatican II if this was the case.
2. Their upholding of Pope as Head of Church and laity at the bottom of “the triangle” was (and is) a perversion of the Church teachings. Proof of where the Church went wrong, historically.
3. Latin fanaticism speaks for itself. Christ celebrated the Eucharist in Hebrew, yet sedevacantists would say this was terrible as it wasn’t in Latin. Ironic.
4. Perversion of the Eucharist itself and the theology underlying the prayers and format. That a priest remains untouchable, absent from the congregation and locked in some “holy of holies” is ridiculous. We can celebrate the Eucharist around the family table, or by a lake. You can have it in your hands, not just on-tongue.
5. Roman Catholic: You can be “Catholic” but not “Roman Catholic” if you’re not in communion with Rome’s cannons.
6. Theological wading pool. Pope Benedict put out a “competition” for any priest, worldwide, to write to him with a fit and proper translation of the prayers and rites being said in these eucharists. Nobody was able to do it lol!
7. Ad Popularum: Not really a theological point but it’s not quite as popular as they make out.

I think we’ll see the sedevacantists brought back into the fold, but many Orders and Saints had to be “tested” by a time in the wilderness. Every such group (in the long run) has brought some value back to the Church.

The Church has also done bureaucracy for 2000yrs and takes it time on many such matters. It’s why, one day, I think we’ll see (inshallah) Pell canonized.

‘Scuse the rant as may not have been coherent! 😛

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 19, 2023 7:02 pm

Trump will need to carry the swing states by 10%+ to have any chance of victory.

It’s not happening yet though, Tom. I with you for wanting it to be so.

If he doesn’t win then it’s likely the world will muddle along as usual, on its slow downward slide into confusion and chaos. Unless leadership springs from elsewhere.

Anyway, ’tis the merry time of year and we’ve just done lots of shopping.
Hairy and I chose together his new binoculars for Christmas. Get the smaller but more expensive pair, I urged, because we will be carting them around everywhere with us up the Amazon and thru South America.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 19, 2023 7:03 pm

More EV awesomeness

JC
JC
December 19, 2023 7:03 pm

Apparently it is you that has the paranoia about the the Down Thumbs. So some of those Down Thumbs went up your down bumbs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,LOL

Have a nice day if you can

It’s very funny and worth it because we know you’re so consumed with anger and being thought of as a low rent limey douchebag crook (with no attributes), you spend a decent time of your wasted life furiously ticking away like a mad person. Keep at it. In fact, I implore you as the more, the funnier it is.
You go girl!

Johnny Rotten
December 19, 2023 7:06 pm

So, where is the evidence of being a crook? Where is it? You Tosser. Where is it?

And This Poster does not like ‘ Junior Cretin’. So tell me why not..

Frank
Frank
December 19, 2023 7:08 pm

One camera is focused on the basket/trolley, the other is on your face.

Preparation for shopping includes a bag, cash and a hockey mask from now on.

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