Open Thread – Wed 20 Dec 2023


The Grand Canal, Venice, Maurice Prendergast, 1899

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Johnny Rotten
December 21, 2023 12:34 pm

Take Brussels sprouts, for instance…

Much maligned – and delicious halved and fried with chopped smoked bacon.

The Fairmont above the Occidental near Wynyard in Sydney do lovely brussels cooked in butter to go with the steaks and mash, Top place.

Nice reds as well. And the Ladies are lovely too.

Robert Sewell
December 21, 2023 12:36 pm

Beertruk
Dec 21, 2023 9:22 AM
Rabz
Dec 21, 2023 8:58 AM

Rabz, thats a goer from me.
I am sure that Zulu and Top Ender will be with the affirmative.

Count me in too!

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2023 12:37 pm

To prove defamation you have to thread the needle.
To defend defamation you can throw a million aspects up to prove a truth defence.
I think that no matter how many lies BH & BL clearly told, the Channel 10 staff (Meakin, Lisa, Angus L) blew up their case.
But considering the malice aspect is no longer on the table, the damages can’t be all that great & you’d assume he’ll be awarded costs (likely to be more than the damages).

Kneel
Kneel
December 21, 2023 12:38 pm

” Here’s the thing, there should be a march in every city of this country, a march AGAINST Jew hatred, where hundreds of thousands of Australians come out to show solidarity with the Australian Jewish community.”

Yes!
Should be publicly announced as a CRUSADE to protect Jews from discrimination.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 12:39 pm

…the world is dividing into very clear blocs. Perhaps more than in the recent past.

Happily, China desires only gift of friendship and international good times.

Min
Min
December 21, 2023 12:42 pm

I am not sure how long after the alleged rape, was The Project interview but just a question who can remember what happened after a piss up night a couple of years later?
Of course L is going through his head trying to remember How about all you fellas out there ?
Now I am writing a book about what happened to me two years ago , but I kept a journal. The other person in the story had no alcohol well one glass but does not remember things that happened . Does not remember incidents later either .
Plenty of research re bystander memories can’t remember if a those who has been drinking alcohol eliminated

Tom
Tom
December 21, 2023 12:43 pm

No way is a man who dresses in matching white with his girlfriend at the airport and then matching black on arrival abroad is heterosexual.

Given everything Brittnah has revealed about herself in the past two years, it would be perfectly in character for her to be conducting a sham relationship (for the purpose of public consumption) with a homosexual fag hag.

calli
calli
December 21, 2023 12:47 pm

I’m struggling to work out the “Elijah” reference. The prophet was notorious for exposing corruption (Ahab and Jezebel) not committing it.

I doubt that the ravens gave him 2.4million worth of food.

Unless he’s calling Wong, Gallagher and Keneally old crows! 😀

JC
JC
December 21, 2023 12:47 pm

Europe is moving along towards the Right.

BREAKING: The new pro-EU Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has shut down TVP broadcasting in Poland

The new Polish Minister Of Culture has fired the heads of TVP, Polish Radio, and PAP.
New management has been appointed.

Police are occupying the TVP building.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 21, 2023 12:48 pm

No way is a man who dresses in matching white with his girlfriend at the airport and then matching black on arrival abroad is heterosexual.

True maybe. You can be bat each way until the taxpayer funds run out and fatty in France is no longer attractive.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 21, 2023 12:50 pm

Overcoat couldn’t hold on any longer – gone to strain the spuds.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 21, 2023 12:50 pm

China is kaput Dover, the demographics are brutal. The place will be a gigantic nursing home in about a decade.

Pre-Covid I worked closely with a Chinese GOC explorer active in searching out gas in overseas locations. Their ‘growth at any cost’ mission was informed by the CCP’s growing alarm at the impact of demographics on the political need to demonstrate continuous improvement in living standards for the 50% of the Chinese general population living under Turd World conditions.

This was not a state secret that I stumbled upon.

None of this is a prediction of the imminent collapse of the Xi Empire. But the amazing inefficiencies and misallocation of the mixed economy with Chinese Characteristics is certainly not helping.

Kneel
Kneel
December 21, 2023 12:51 pm

“All they have to do is check who is selling hams and meat on eBay and pay them a visit.”

Pfft!
400kg of ham, eh? 40 x 10kg hams. You could sell those from the back of a ute at the local houseo shopping centre for $20 each and be home with a slab of burboun and coke cans and $700 in your pocket before the local plod got to of their chair and into the patrol car!

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 21, 2023 12:52 pm

Before GW1 some Pentagon war games were held.
A US Marine General was OpFor.
He made a mess of the US Navy with a large force of swarming missile armed speedboats which got him disinvited after that. Don’t forget those in the speedboats don’t care if they die. Think Kamikaze which BTW also made a bit of a mess of the US Navy.

Min
Min
December 21, 2023 12:53 pm

No extradition from France for crimes of a political nature

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 21, 2023 12:54 pm

Given everything Brittnah has revealed about herself in the past two years, it would be perfectly in character for her to be conducting a sham relationship (for the purpose of public consumption) with a homosexual fag hag.

Shiraz the Fag Hag?
Being young and naive here, does this mean Aussie Brinny has sapphic tendencies?

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 12:56 pm

But the amazing inefficiencies and misallocation of the mixed economy with Chinese Characteristics is certainly not helping.

Western expats reportedly leaving China in droves.

And taking their expertise with them.

Chris
Chris
December 21, 2023 12:57 pm

The Bible says that GOD made the Egyptians favourably disposed to the Israelites and that they were to ask them for items of jewellery.

Furthermore, God has repeatedly shown the Egyptian Army what he thinks of them taking on Israel.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2023 12:57 pm

dopey
Dec 21, 2023 12:12 PM
I don’t get this ‘ not anti – Israel, just anti – Zionist ‘ thing. Zionism achieved its goal in 1948, a Jewish homeland in Palestine – the State of Israel. So what does just anti – Zionist mean.

The term used by those who don’t want their Jew hate to be too obvious.

C.L.
C.L.
December 21, 2023 12:58 pm

Lee’s comments re Sharaf are funny but surprisingly undisciplined.

A superior court might not be amused.

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2023 12:58 pm

They all see themselves as junior politicians-in-waiting and the problem is that there is about twenty wannabes for every vacancy.

Somewhat true as, but not entirely, as you will get party operatives working in a Minister’s office (employed as public servants). However, it is also a blank canvas where you can choose the extent to which you want to get involved in policy matters. Although, I worked in a Leader’s office which may have given me more scope to do what I wanted.

JC
JC
December 21, 2023 12:59 pm

We’re ~ 30 years past GW1, Hallward. Speedboats aren’t a match for naval ships. Get back into the flight simulator game on your computer and pretend you’re landing a Dreamliner, you limey swine.

I’d prefer zero interaction with a limey pig like you but even indirect comments will be treated in the same way as direct comments. You think I’ve forgotten the racist comments you threw may way, before you galloped off to the lollipop stand. You limey pos.

Robert Sewell
December 21, 2023 12:59 pm

Calli/Roger

Dec 21, 2023 10:43 AM
Words are never “just words”, calli.
They do things.

Words are preconditions to acts. It’s very rare for an act to suddenly occur without some kind of verbal warning.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2023 12:59 pm

Many veges got a bad name through overcooking by mums & boarding school cooks.

Chokos presented as pears for dessert?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 21, 2023 1:02 pm

Buccaneer
Dec 21, 2023 12:02 PM
10 lawyer rewriting history, suggesting that Higgins would have had to give evidence under oath and testimony and that that means she wouldn’t have persisted with the complaint lightly.

A variation on “believe all women”.
Which will sink on launching in Jurdge Lee’s court.

She avoided doing all that for as long as possible, which in my opinion suggests she didn’t expect to have to do that at all.

Yes.
As has been observed this morning even the police complaint initially was to add spice to the story.

JC
JC
December 21, 2023 1:03 pm

Houthis are mining the waters after the US announced they would attack them.

Iranians were doing the same thing back in the 90s. No biggie. The Suez is now closed I guess. I wonder if Egypt is amused.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 1:04 pm

Because you will note that task force has no mine hunters attached to it.

Possibly because they already have minesweepers stationed in the region.

Chris
Chris
December 21, 2023 1:04 pm

Western expats reportedly leaving China in droves.

And taking their expertise with them.

Roger, I strongly believe that the expertise is less important than initiative. Making things happen! Also called ‘animal spirits’. Migrants and expats in general do that.

Leaving bureaucrats and enforcers with a clear field is a terrible mistake.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2023 1:04 pm

Bugger, I had it on a 10 min delay.
Did I miss anything as he wrapped it up?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2023 1:07 pm

dover0beach
Dec 21, 2023 12:33 PM
The Saudi “military” only operates in air-conditioning. Surely you’re not using the Saudis here as the gold standard in military prowess. That war was like a Dumb and Dumber routine. Just stop it with the “Saudis”.

.
JC, their F-15s have a/c. If they were ineffective what substantive difference is a US operated equivalent going to make? You’re just handwaving now.

The aircraft are only as effective as their pilots.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 1:07 pm

Roger, I strongly believe that the expertise is less important than initiative.

Let’s split the difference. 😀

Either way, it’s not a good development for China.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2023 1:07 pm

GreyRanga
Dec 21, 2023 12:34 PM
C.L. are you saying Britnee has a strapon?

Could explain the lack of knickers? Doesn’t shrink when not being used?

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2023 1:08 pm

The new pro-EU Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has shut down TVP broadcasting in Poland

The new Polish Minister Of Culture has fired the heads of TVP, Polish Radio, and PAP.

This is a good thing. If Tusk is a net negative then he can’t have his own Polish “ABC”.

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2023 1:08 pm

Did I miss anything as he wrapped it up?

They had a thirty minute discussion on what the “matter” means under the defamation legislation and Lee was giving Ch10 a bit of hard time but I wonder aloud (and uneducatedly) if Lee thinks them both BS artists, but only one of them pursued a public damnation of the other, if he’s leaning in BL’s favour…?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2023 1:09 pm

dover0beach
Dec 21, 2023 12:36 PM
The whole area is a single “theatre”, under a single command.

You are getting close to angels on the heads of pins stuff.

So you’re conceding now that they couldn’t strike them from the Gulf and are focussing on my use of ‘in theatre’. That certainly is what you describe.

No, I was responding to your point about “1000km”, pointing out that the distance could be reduced rapidly.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 21, 2023 1:10 pm

“What is the rationale for SBS”? Tits and bum.

And soccer.
Don’t forget the soccer GreyRanga.
Shirley you remember the old saying Sex, Boobs, and Soccer?

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2023 1:13 pm

I think Lee is hearing the Wilkinson v 10 cross claim the week of the 10th Feb or there about.
I wonder if he would have ruled in the defamation by then.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 21, 2023 1:15 pm

C.L.

Dec 21, 2023 12:58 PM

Lee’s comments re Sharaf are funny but surprisingly undisciplined.

A superior court might not be amused.

Not a problem.
Although Shiraz is not a party or even a witness he features heavily in verbal testimony and discovered material.
He was indisputably two things:-
1. The sole conduit through which at least documentary evidence passed;
2. He was an avowed enemy of the Liberal party having input to a on a program which was designed to discredit the Libs.
Entirely relevant that the judge should form a view of him and express that view. The fact that he chose a colourful biblical reference is neither here nor there.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2023 1:15 pm

Thanks Lysander.
Considering how accommodating Lee has been to all parties, regardless which way he rules, will there be grounds to appeal ?

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 1:16 pm

Shirley you remember the old saying Sex, Boobs, and Soccer?

That demographic has one foot in the grave.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2023 1:17 pm

I can’t believe the “lip reading expert” was allowed.
Who had to take a few goes at reading the lips of people a couple of metres away from him in the court.
Comical.

Kneel
Kneel
December 21, 2023 1:19 pm

” I’m a woman because I demand to be called Mz Dickenballz.”

For some odd reason, make me think of Dickin’s Cider – (in your best yokel accent) “My girlfriend loves a Dickin’s Cider, so I always make sure to give her one every chance I get.”

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 1:22 pm

I can’t believe the “lip reading expert” was allowed.

Slipped through the basis rule, which has never been applied as rigorously as it might be.

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2023 1:23 pm

I’m not sure it can be appealed, Bern.

Anyone know how long it will take the Jurdge to get back out with a decision?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 21, 2023 1:23 pm

Something I learned through this process related to the standard of proof.
We all know the difference between criminal (beyond reasonable doubt) and civil (balance of probabilities).
However, where the civil case involves defamation involving accusations of serious criminality, the burden of proof increases with the gravity of the criminal conduct alleged.
To express it numerically, say “balance of probabilities” is expressed as 51% and “beyond reasonable doubt” is expressed as, say, 95%, a civil defamation case around an accusation of rape or murder might require a certainty approaching 85% or 90%.
Interesting that this doesn’t just apply to the rape accusation. This morning Lee described the accusation of the cover-up as “an accusation of serious criminality”.
He is setting the bar high on that as well.

shatterzzz
December 21, 2023 1:24 pm

Aaaaaaaagh! .. the joys of OAP-dom .. over the past 2 dayz I’ve spent, overall, 6 hours looking for a piece of paper which I’d put away so as not to lose it …… duuuuuh!
So after flipping thru numerous boxes & drawers and shaking down every book I own .. where did I find it .. in the 1st, bloody, place I looked! .. duuuuuh! .. turns out I’d forgotten that I’d given it a “new” envelope and I overlooked it, originally, cos different envelope but 3rd time around dropped a book and it fell out of the envelope ……!
Then, of course, the irony of realising that the only person who would ever be looking for this paper is me so “hiding” it was/is pointless, anyway … other than the 6, bloody, hours …!
The only upside is living alone you get away with OAP “moments” .. LOL!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 21, 2023 1:25 pm

Roger

Dec 21, 2023 1:22 PM

I can’t believe the “lip reading expert” was allowed.

Slipped through the basis rule, which has never been applied as rigorously as it might be.

I think that is part of Lee appeal-proofing his finding.
He has let it in but reserved the right not to give much weight to it.
Makes it harder to argue that he ignored relevant evidence.

johanna
johanna
December 21, 2023 1:26 pm

Asparagus: strange looking things that pop out of the dirt at random intervals and don’t add much to most meals.

Oi!

As has been noted upthread, many of the objections to certain foods is that they were horribly cooked.

I don’t remember many of the restaurant meals consumed during my life, but one I will never forget (sitting outside in Spring sunshine in Garema Place, about 15 years ago) will stay with me until the brain cells give up the ghost.

It was very simple. Just right steamed young asparagus tips, dressed with a perfect vinagrette and a sprinkle of ground black pepper, on a bed of crunchy watercress, topped with shavings of parmigiano.

Accompanied with a glass of chilled, flinty dry local reisling.

If I could ever have a meal again, that would be it. Just magnificent. 🙂

OTOH, there are few things worse than ingredients like asparagus and Brussels Sprouts selected poorly and treated even worse.

Speaking of which, how the hell does an alleged chef screw up garlic prawns? Had a craving recently, and went to the nearest source, a pub with pretensions judging by the prices.

$22 for six banana prawns. They were overcooked to the point that I got a steak knife to cut them with, the oil tasted rancid, were not very hot, and they must have used garlic powder or something because there were no visible pieces of garlic.

I vividly remember the garlic prawns that I first tasted at a Spanish restaurant in Liverpool Street, Sydney in 1970. It was very adventurous then, they came sizzling in cast iron bowls that had been cooked in the oven. Just oil, garlic, prawns and bread.

Then there were the ones served by the now defunct Woodstock restaurant in Garema Place when I was a student. These were cooked in the oven in cast iron bowls with a lid, in a delicious tomato and garlic sauce. With bread, it was a scrumptious meal.

FMD, just about any home cook could do better than what I paid $22 for.

Grrr.

Cassie of Sydney
December 21, 2023 1:27 pm

Further to Antionette ‘Latosh”, I first became aware of her toxic existence back in 2017/2018 when she’d appear occasionally on Sky Oz. Every time Latosh appeared, I’d quickly change the channel. Given her career trajectory, now fully ensconced at ‘Crikey’ as well as her recent though mercifully short gig at their ABC (she probably thought she’d made it when given her recent ABC gig), she no doubt would not want to be reminded of her Sky appearances. But I remember, and I recall being quite shocked at her incessant rudeness, her nastiness, her pig ignorance, her stupidity, her toxicity, her callousness towards other panellists, and her frothing of all the usual tedious progressive bullet points. She is an apologist for cancel culture, particularly when it comes to silencing anyone on the right, and she’s a spruiker of the tedious bullshit that is critical race theory and that “whiteness” is evil. But Latosh is not black, she’s of Middle Eastern heritage, and with a name like “Antionette”, she a Christian. She’s no darker than several members of my family, she could be Greek, Italian, French, Spanish…OR SHOCK HORROR….Israeli (now that’ll annoy her). The truth is that most Israelis are darker than this skank.

Here’s THE truth, Latosh is a tedious, untalented hack, lacking something crucial in any half decent journalist, which is ‘curiosity’. But most of all, she’s a nasty hypocrite. Her whole shtick and raison d’etre is frothing identity politics, being mean and nasty, and now all of this has come back to bite her on the bum, by their ABC.

Good riddance.

Beertruk
December 21, 2023 1:29 pm

Apologies if this has been already posted.

From the Paywallion…This will be interesting…just because Sluttany and David “Fat Girls and their Feeders” Sharaz have skipped the country, it’s not over just yet:

Linda Reynolds to seek freeze on Brittany Higgins’ assets as her former staffer leaves for new life in France

By GRACE MACPHERSON
5:23AM DECEMBER 21, 2023

Former Liberal Minister Linda Reynolds will apply for freezing orders against Brittany Higgins after her former staffer flew out of the country this week to start a new life in France with her fiance, David Sharaz.

Senator Reynolds, who is suing both Ms Higgins and Mr Sharaz for defamation, will ask the Supreme Court of Western Australia for the orders, which restrain a party to a case from selling or moving assets while a legal action is still in process.

Ms Higgins has reportedly bought her first home in a small village in the south of France, following her $2.4 million compensation settlement with the Commonwealth.

The couple said goodbye to family and friends at Brisbane International Airport on Monday night, flying to Singapore before boarding a connecting flight to France, where it is reported Ms Higgins plans to study and learn the language.

The property is reportedly located in the village of Lunas, in France and is a six-hour train ride from Paris and four hours from Barcelona in Spain.

Ms Higgins, her parents Kelly and Matthew, and Mr Sharaz all wore white outfits at the airport – the women’s suffragette colour, which Ms Higgins wore at the Women’s March for Justice in March.

Lunas, in the south of France.

Senator Reynolds has launched defamation actions against Ms Higgins and Mr Sharaz over their comments about the senator in social media posts. In Ms Higgins’ allegedly defamatory Instagram story, she criticised her former boss for continuing “to harass me through the media and in the parliament”.

West Australian Supreme Court judge Marcus Solomon has previously urged the parties to do their best to settle the matter, warning of the immense financial and human cost of a protracted trial.

On Tuesday, lawyers for Senator Reynolds wrote to Ms Higgins’ lawyer Leon Zwier, referring to media reports she and Mr Sharaz had left the country. “If such reports are true, we consider that an application for freezing orders is appropriate. Please advise as a matter of urgency your client’s intentions in respect of her travel to France and your availability to confer in respect of our client’s proposed application.”

Lawyers described the amount and speed of the settlement – finalised just days after Bruce Lehrmann’s rape trial was abandoned in the ACT ­Supreme Court – as “extraordinary” and “unprecedented”.

The deed of settlement ­between Ms Higgins and the ­commonwealth was released last week in the defamation trial brought by Bruce Lehrmann against Network Ten and Lisa Wilkinson over Ms Higgins’ ­allegation on The Project that she was raped by him in Parliament House in 2019, after her lawyers successfully asked that personal medical information be excluded.

The one-day mediation took place 10 days after ACT Director of Public Prosecutions Shane ­Drumgold announced he would not be proceeding with a retrial of rape charges due to Ms Higgins’ mental health.

The deed shows that the total amount paid to Ms Higgins was $2.445m – $1.48m for loss of earning capacity for 40 years; $400,000 for hurt, distress and humiliation; $220,000 for medical expenses; $100,000 for “past and future domestic assistance”; and $245,000 for legal costs.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 1:30 pm

JC
Dec 21, 2023 12:28 PM
Qantas isn’t the worst then after a strong performance by Virgin.

Virgin Australia won the airline race to the bottom during the month of November, cancelling the most flights of any carrier and also suffering the worst on time departures, according to Australian government data.

It was a particularly poor showing from the Brisbane-based carrier, which had only just over half its flights land on time and only 57 per cent dep

Virgin have just cancelled flight in May 24, meaning 3hr 55 min layover in BNE – Wife wouldn’t let me book QF as Virgin Cheaper and shorter layover – at least coming back QF and if problems BNE, QF Business Class Lounge beckons

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 1:30 pm

I think that is part of Lee appeal-proofing his finding.

Probably.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 21, 2023 1:30 pm

Roger, do you know something I don’t? Should I check under the bed for Ninjas?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 1:31 pm

Push for jail time for Kristina Keneally’s police officer son over false evidence

The prosecution against the police officer son of former NSW premier and senator Kristina Keneally will seek to have him jailed over his fabrication of evidence that landed a wrongly accused man in custody for three weeks.

Daniel Keneally, 25, faced Downing Centre Local Court on Thursday over the incident at Newtown police station in February 2021.

Chris
Chris
December 21, 2023 1:34 pm

For some odd reason, make me think of Dickin’s Cider – (in your best yokel accent) “My girlfriend loves a Dickin’s Cider, so I always make sure to give her one every chance I get.”

The Two Ronnies would have loved it, but not used it on air.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 1:35 pm

The ATAR cut-off for every university course revealed

University entry scores for some engineering, health science and mathematics education degrees have dropped by more than 10 points this year, with institutions accepting lower marks on average than they did a year ago.

More than 70,000 students applied to study in NSW universities next year with 35,887 to receive an official offer at 7.30am on Thursday.

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2023 1:38 pm

Lashoot is seeking legal advice following her sacking.

Some (wise) Cat called this yesterday.

Beertruk
December 21, 2023 1:38 pm

David “Fat Girls and their Feeders” Sharaz

H/T Pogria
Dec 20, 2023 6:21 PM

Sorry Pogria, that was too bloody good not to steal.

Rabz
December 21, 2023 1:41 pm

I now wonder what other horrid views they hold.

Orange Man Bad
Gerbil Broiling is real and happening right now!
Roonables are the cheapest form of (base load) electrickery
A man can declare themselves to be a woman and vice versa
Moozleyism is the religion of peace (as October 7 demonstrated)
China is rooly rooly tops
Ozzies are racists and we exist on stolen land
The merit principle is unfair to useless incompetent idiots
More third world immigrants mean cheaper housing and more efficient infrastructure
Government price caps will curb inflation as will printing more money
A UBI and CBDC are inevitable and a really great way to banish da inequality
George Bush and the Illuminati detonated the WTC on 9/11
The gliberals have a wymminses problem

No doubt there are many many others, Cats.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 1:44 pm

The EU will introduce border detention centres, streamline vetting of illegal arrivals & make deportation easier under reforms designed to stem irregular migration.

Critics have called the measures a capitulation to right-wing populists.

C.L.
C.L.
December 21, 2023 1:45 pm

In mafia parlance, she’s taking out the whole crew:

Moria Deeming to sue deputy Lib leader David Southwick

JC
JC
December 21, 2023 1:46 pm

From Old Oz link.

Sophie Barbour, 18, graduated from St Scholastica’s College in Glebe this year with an ATAR of 99.00 and hopes to study law at the University of Sydney but acknowledges she will likely just miss out because it has a cut-off of 99.50.

Really, you’re not accepted with a score of 99?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 1:52 pm

The entitled young have finally given up on real work

Mondays and Fridays went first.

And then going into the office at all.

And after that, it turned out that you couldn’t really be expected to be in the same country as the company you work for, and your boss certainly couldn’t contact you out of hours.

Now, it is claimed that graduates are refusing to come into the office for job interviews. Seriously?

In reality, the WFH virus is mutating, and like many viruses, growing more troublesome all the time. A culture of industry and hard work that has taken centuries to create is being trashed before our very eyes – and sadly it will be very hard to ever restore.

It was probably too optimistic to expect the traditional job interview to survive the onslaught on traditional working cultures.

The days when you might buy a new suit, polish your shoes, and arrive twenty minutes early, all to make sure you made the right first impression on a prospective employer are now consigned to the past.

And yet why would we be surprised by that any more?

When the pandemic struck, and we were all locked up at home for several months, many employers reckoned working from home – or lounging around in your PJs to give it its technical term – was a short-term solution.

Sure, we might learn a few lessons in flexible working, while using office space more efficiently, but then everything would get back more or less to normal.

Instead, it turns out that we allowed habits to form that are now out of control.

Working from home has been transformed from an occasional privilege to something that can’t even be questioned. Aided and abetted by over-powerful, woke human resources departments, it is considered an absolute right.

Any CEO with the temerity to suggest it might be good for people to pop into the office a bit more often can expect to be treated as the reincarnation of Ebenezer Scrooge.

It doesn’t stop there.

“Working from anywhere” presumably means that you can be sunning yourself on a beach somewhere while still officially “working”.

The “right to switch off” means that your boss can’t contact you about anything outside of working hours.

But what if the entire company is about to crash? – Hello Optus?

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 1:52 pm

Really, you’re not accepted with a score of 99?

She’ll get in at another uni.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 21, 2023 1:54 pm

Vegetables.

As one 90+ year old told me: “The key to a long life is to not eat anything that is green.

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2023 1:55 pm
rosie
rosie
December 21, 2023 1:55 pm

I don’t know about anyone but I am quietly boycotting muslim owned businesses.
And buying Israeli made products, eg a soda stream and some dead sea moisturiser.
the ABC promoting antisemitism.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 1:56 pm

Business fights back against ‘right to disconnect’ from work

David Marin-Guzman – Workplace correspondent

Business is pushing back against a Labor-Greens deal for a “right to disconnect” from employers, over concerns it could discourage flexible work arrangements and risk returning staff to the “rigid” workplaces of old.

As 37 per cent of Australians enjoy the flexibility of working from home, the Albanese government is teaming up with the Greens and the Senate crossbench to deliver a right for workers to disconnect from their employer’s unreasonable contact outside of work hours.

The reform, a response to smart phones and work-from-home blurring the boundaries between work and personal life, is likely to form part of the second tranche of the government’s workplace reforms early next year, alongside casual conversion rights and gig worker conditions.

However, on Wednesday, the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry submitted to a Senate inquiry that the right would be “a blunt instrument which will do more harm than good, including for employees”.

The submission highlights a tension where technology has afforded employees more freedom to work odd hours or step away from the office but also assured employers that they will be contactable if necessary.

“While it’s true that historically employees did not have to deal with employers contacting them outside working hours at the same rates as today, it is also true that historically employees were expected to work a standard 9am-5pm day (or equivalent) and to remain at their place of work for the entirety of the day,” the business group told the Senate inquiry.

“This traditional work practice acted as a barrier to many workers who have thrived in the modern era with its increased flexibility and focus on work life balance (including for those with caring responsibilities). This proposal risks taking us back to this undesirable, rigid working environment.”

There is no final version of the amendment, but experts have said there should be exemptions to deal with the needs of different occupations.

Greens senator Barbara Pocock, who has spearheaded the reform, said the party was proposing a “two-pronged” approach that limited employers’ conduct and protected employees.

“A legislated right to disconnect will prevent employers from unreasonably contacting their workers out of hours and also empower workers to ignore work calls and emails after hours, where those demands are unreasonable,” she said.

She added workplace laws were increasingly out of step with changing workplaces and technology had “put the office in our pocket – meaning we are contactable day and night”.

“We are now struggling with the implications of this on our health and wellbeing, as well as our pay packets,” she said.

A spokeswoman for independent senator David Pocock said he had been briefed by the Greens and was “supportive in principle but just wants to see what it looks like in practice”.

Senator Jacquie Lambie is yet to come to a position.

University of Adelaide law professor Andrew Stewart has supported legislating the right as a general principle in the Fair Work Act and elaborating on it and identifying exceptions through industry awards.

“The issues here – the matters which need to be taken into account in terms of practical operation – may be very different, depending on whether you’re talking about an academic, on the one hand, or a police officer or an accountant on the other,” he told the Senate inquiry earlier this year.

However, ACCI is strongly opposed to any laws that could lead to employers fined for contacting workers outside of hours.

“The margin for error (i.e. not realising the time or senior members of staff not being aware that a particular employee has directed the employer not to contact them after hours) is very broad,” its submission says.

It also warned that employers considering requests to change work hours to allow for school pick-ups, for example, would be less able to accommodate them if the employee was not contactable in the event of emergencies.

Bosses would also be less willing to let staff leave the office to attend to personal matters without personal leave if they cannot contact staff when a work issue arises after hours.

“This ‘give and take’ mentality is a positive development of the modern era.”

ACTU assistant secretary Liam O’Brien countered that the right to disconnect would protect those with caring responsibilities.

“Allowing working people the right to disconnect outside of working hours is necessary not only for their mental health and wellbeing, but also for ensuring that those with caring responsibilities – who are primarily women – aren’t disadvantaged relative to their coworkers when it comes to pay and career advancement,” he said.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 21, 2023 1:58 pm

Critics have called the measures a capitulation to right-wing populists.

Whereas the earlier open borders policy was not a sop to progressives.

JC
JC
December 21, 2023 1:58 pm

She’ll get in at another uni.

Sure, but it’s not the same as Melbourne or Sydney in terms of brand name. The rest are kind of just community colleges.

My older kid fluked himself into Melbourne with a score of just a tad over 99. A real smart alec and nowhere near as smart as me. 🙂

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2023 2:00 pm
alwaysright
alwaysright
December 21, 2023 2:01 pm

Forgive me Dover.

Very cool Israeli product.

https://www.solid-run.com/

Frank
Frank
December 21, 2023 2:02 pm

No way is a man who dresses in matching white with his girlfriend at the airport and then matching black on arrival abroad is heterosexual.

That demographic is different these days although, Sharaz does come across like Brian Stelter with hair so maybe there is something to it.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 2:04 pm

In Bahrain, and the four are all at the end of their lives at 30+ years old.

But they’re there…just around the corner, so to speak.

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2023 2:05 pm

Ch10 arguing “everyone knew” therefore Project couldn’t have done any harm.

Lee didn’t want a bar of it.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 2:07 pm

…the ABC promoting antisemitism.

That girl needs to switch out the hijab for a turban.

It’s the ABC, not SBS.

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2023 2:09 pm

Lawyer’s “final point” is BL was dishonest and gave false testament in court.

Lee is buying into this a bit more.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 21, 2023 2:10 pm

Quizzed about the embarking in white clothing and disembarking in black Brittany suddenly recalled that she had a few Johnny Walker minis on the plane and fell asleep only to wake up with a Liberal Party flight attendant on to of her smearing her clothes with black shoe polish…

Robert Sewell
December 21, 2023 2:12 pm

Boambee John:

Hmmm, 1000 kms is roughly 500 nm. A nuclear-powered carrier can do well over 30 knots. In 16 hours it could be off Aden, but it doesn’t need to get that close. The aircraft can strike from at least 6 hours out.

How about the support elements? Can they keep up?
And would an unknown actor try it’s luck with a couple of anti ship missiles?

C.L.
C.L.
December 21, 2023 2:13 pm

…the Albanese government is teaming up with the Greens and the Senate crossbench to deliver a right for workers to disconnect from their employer’s unreasonable contact outside of work hours.

Good.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 2:14 pm

Meanwhile it’s only Your Australian Taxpayers Money

MPs drop $30m on expenses in three months

Australia’s federal politicians spent $30.7 million in the first full quarter of the new parliamentary term, as newly minted Labor frontbenchers travelled abroad to meet their international counterparts.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese led the pack, spending $684,665 between July and September 2022, newly released data from the Independent Parliamentary Expenses Authority (IPEA) show.

About three-quarters of Mr Albanese’s expenses were for spending on employee travel, which was largely domestic.

IPEA said travel was undertaken by 61 of Mr Albanese’s employees.

Mr Albanese spent $82,730 on international travel over this period, which included a trip to Paris in July to meet French President Emmanuel Macron and a surprise visit to Ukraine following an invitation from Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.

Mr Albanese also attended the 51st Pacific Islands Forum in Fiji later that month, as well as the funerals of Queen Elizabeth II in London and former Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe in September.

While the Coalition has sought to brand Mr Albanese “Airbus Albo” due to the frequency of his international trips, he has travelled no more than his recent predecessors.

Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister Richard Marles was the second-biggest spender on international travel, incurring $30,477 in expenses between July and September 2022.

The only non-government MP in the top 10 for international travel expenditure was the Nationals’ Darren Chester, who was selected to represent the federal parliament at the United Nations General Assembly in New York between late September and early December. The cost of the multimonth trip was $26,458.

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton spent $363,003 in the three months to September 2022, including $195,876 on employee travel.

Data overdue

The release of the spending data was delayed due to a bungled attempt by the public service to upgrade the expenses’ system.

Special Minister of State Don Farrell repeatedly raised questions about the system, which is run by the Department of Finance when Labor was in opposition. After Labor came to power, Senator Farrell took the unusual step in November of asking the auditor-general to look into issues with the expenses’ system upgrade.

While politicians’ international travel spending garners significant public attention, it was just 1 per cent of the $30.7 million in spending undertaken by serving parliamentarians between July and September 2022.

Office facilities was the largest single expense, representing about $11.3 million in spending. This includes the cost of leasing electorate offices, furniture, and security.

MPs based in Sydney spent the most on their offices due to the relatively higher cost of leasing. Tanya Plibersek, whose electorate office is in the inner-Sydney suburb of Redfern, spent $161,884 on office facilities between July and September, which was the most of any parliamentarian.

The next most costly line item was office administration at $7.1 million. The figure includes spending on items like stationery and printing.

MPs and senators spent $2 million on scheduled commercial transport and received $1.5 million in travel allowances.

Federal MPs receive travel allowances when they are on the road. The payment is tax-exempt provided the MP does not double-dip by claiming their travel-related expenses in their tax return.

A backbencher receives $310 per day when they are travelling to Canberra, according to the remuneration tribunal.

A daily allowance of $469 is paid on a trip to Sydney, Perth or Melbourne, $450 for Brisbane, and $461 in Adelaide.

cohenite
December 21, 2023 2:14 pm

Really, you’re not accepted with a score of 99?

I got into law with a mark of 135.7. Plus I am very handsome.

calli
calli
December 21, 2023 2:14 pm

She’ll get in at another uni.

And be all the better for it.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 21, 2023 2:14 pm

Sharaz was unable to provide verification, explaining that he had spent 2 hours in the lavatory wrestling with an ill-advised Bran Vindaloo, but when he came back to his seat – in a state of near exhaustion and severe dehydration – he observed that his clothes had also been blacked.

JC
JC
December 21, 2023 2:16 pm

What would occur do in an emergency situation, like Optus, CL.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 2:17 pm

I wonder if Ita knows about TikTok girl?

JC
JC
December 21, 2023 2:19 pm

I got into law with a mark of 135.7. Plus I am very handsome.

You should’ve tried out as a Vogue model then. What a wasted life as a lawyer.

What’s 135.7 equal in the new rating?

C.L.
C.L.
December 21, 2023 2:20 pm

What would occur in an emergency situation, like Optus, CL.

People might come to the realisation that it wasn’t an emergency.

Conservatives have to abandon their learned behaviour of bouncing for big business and defend family life and privacy in stead. They’re being played.

Johnny Rotten
December 21, 2023 2:20 pm

Chris
Dec 21, 2023 1:34 PM
For some odd reason, make me think of Dickin’s Cider – (in your best yokel accent) “My girlfriend loves a Dickin’s Cider, so I always make sure to give her one every chance I get.”

The Two Ronnies would have loved it, but not used it on air.

Four Candles……………………………….lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi_6SaqVQSw&t=210s

calli
calli
December 21, 2023 2:22 pm

They should complete the act by digging up all the bones and burning them on a raft on the Potomac.

Mrs Biden can twerk to the musical accompaniment.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 2:23 pm

‘I was stupid’: Boon admits regret over infamous 52-beer flight

Australian cricket great David Boon is well-known for his starring role in a story that has reached mythic proportions.

The former batsman is infamous for having drunk 52 beers on a flight to England in 1989 – something Boon’s teammates swear happened but that the man himself has in the past described as a fairytale.

But in a podcast recorded late last year, Boon admitted he regretted the incident.

“What I won’t deny is that we had a beer,” Boon said on the BackChat Sports Show.

Airborne beer-drinking records were a long-celebrated part of the “larrikin” culture of the Australian team.

Countless books and sportsman’s nights have heard about how Doug Walters drank 44 cans of lager on a flight from Sydney to London’s Heathrow Airport in 1977.

According to the reported folklore, the team’s long-serving wicket-keeper, the late Rod Marsh, served as Walters’ “pacemaker” on that flight and believed he had matched his teammate “can for can”.

When the team flew to London for the 1983 World Cup, Marsh set his sights on claiming the record outright.

His great mate, legendary fast bowler Dennis Lillee, dedicated an entire chapter of his autobiography Lillee: Over and Out to Marsh’s record attempt.

Lillee detailed how the team appointed separate pacemakers to chaperone Marsh and keep his tally through each leg of the flight from Sydney to London, with stopovers in Singapore and Bahrain.

“The other passengers were urging him on and his teammates were behind him to a man. Even the [plane’s] captain chimed in with an announcement that not only was the flight on schedule but so, too, was Australia’s vice-captain Rodney Marsh, who was attempting to break a world drinking record,” Lilllee wrote.

With the plane descending towards Heathrow, Lillee recalled Marsh struggling to polish off the record-breaking 45th can.

“I can’t make it,” Marsh reportedly told his teammates.

“‘Bullshit,’ we chorused.

This challenge had by now assumed almost the significance of winning the Ashes series. There would be no capitulation,” Lillee wrote.

“We tilted Rodney’s head back and literally force-fed him.

He gurgled, he gasped and he groaned. But, by God, he drank it.”

In more recent times, the team has toned down its drinking culture, at least publicly.

cohenite
December 21, 2023 2:24 pm

You should’ve tried out as a Vogue model then. What a wasted life as a lawyer.

Judges love handsome young lawyers. The Devil’s Advocate was based on my career.

JC
JC
December 21, 2023 2:26 pm

lol

Robert Sewell
December 21, 2023 2:26 pm

Morsie

Dec 21, 2023 11:50 AM
Everyone assuming SC will overturn the Colorado decision.
I reckon there is a strong possibility that they will not take the case.
Trump has few friends on that court, maybe Alito and Thomas but none else.
I hope I am wrong

Interesting scenario, Morsie.
But what if you’re right?
Roberts is absolutely no friend of Trumps.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 2:30 pm

The Biden administration has removed the 109-year-old Reconciliation Memorial in Arlington National Cemetery

Arlington is on land that was once the estate of Robert E. Lee (through his wife.)

Not many people know that.

It was confiscated during the war and Lee’s son had to take the US government to court to obtain compensation two decades later.

Robert Sewell
December 21, 2023 2:30 pm

OldOzzie

Dec 21, 2023 11:50 AM
‘Reckless’ renewables push slammed as ‘national self-harm’ on grand scale
15 hours ago

Sky News host Chris Kenny has slammed Australia’s “reckless” renewables push as “national self-harm” on a grand scale.

We are witnessing the biggest economic and industrial disaster Australia has ever experienced unfold, and it all comes back to out political/technocratic class having no clue of what their ignorance is doing.
All in search of their own advantage and to Hell with the rest of us.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 21, 2023 2:30 pm

Regarding the monument in Arlington cemetery the profs are claiming it valorised the Southern cause.

Nonsense, of course. When the statue was unveiled by the then President that the intent was reconciliation – the Confederate dead were brothers of the Union dead, suffered the same privations, displayed the same courage, marched into volley fire, bled, were maimed or died.

The Democrats are making a conspicuous display of denouncing the slavish South to re-write their determined support of it in the Civil War – they don’t want more uppity niggers leaving the Democrat plantation. They have already been bleeding black support to Trump.

JC
JC
December 21, 2023 2:31 pm

People might come to the realisation that it wasn’t an emergency.

It was though. For instance, hospital systems were down because they were tied to Optus.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2023 2:31 pm

Dover

It’s pretty clear that what is going on here is stretching and exhausting the US, by preventing one of the CSGs from returning to port which was planned months earlier, as well as exhausting its missile inventory with cheap drones.

There is this development (that dates back to the 1940s) called Replenishment at Sea.

Some ships of the USN in that war stayed away from the USA for years at a time.

C.L.
C.L.
December 21, 2023 2:32 pm

Mrs Biden can twerk to the musical accompaniment.

You go too far, Calli. 🙂

C.L.
C.L.
December 21, 2023 2:34 pm

How many people died in the Optus “emergency,” JC?

People couldn’t text a new cat meme to somebody for 18 hours or so.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2023 2:35 pm

Robert Sewell
Dec 21, 2023 2:12 PM
Boambee John:

Hmmm, 1000 kms is roughly 500 nm. A nuclear-powered carrier can do well over 30 knots. In 16 hours it could be off Aden, but it doesn’t need to get that close. The aircraft can strike from at least 6 hours out.

How about the support elements? Can they keep up?
And would an unknown actor try it’s luck with a couple of anti ship missiles?

I doubt that a fleet engagement hundreds of miles offshore is on the cards, and they could try with the missiles. That would usefully identify the launch point.

Of course, the Houthis would need a broad area surveillance system to target the missiles.

Robert Sewell
December 21, 2023 2:36 pm

dopey

Dec 21, 2023 12:12 PM
I don’t get this ‘ not anti – Israel, just anti – Zionist ‘ thing. Zionism achieved its goal in 1948, a Jewish homeland in Palestine – the State of Israel. So what does just anti – Zionist mean.

“An anti Zionist is a person who hates Jews, but doesn’t have the guts to come out and say it.”

— From the Book of Winston.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 2:36 pm

Only if you think the distance from Beirut to Gibraltar is ‘around the corner’.

Eh?

They’ve been patrolling, two at a time, in the Red Sea since 2021, when the mine threat from the Houthis first became a problem.

C.L.
C.L.
December 21, 2023 2:40 pm

Not to worry, Dover.

The Zel is calling up 500,000 retirees to save the day.

I was reading something about his new recruits earlier this week.

They get recruited, fake-trained, dispatched to the front and promptly killed.

Zelensky is certifiable. A stupid little man who grew a beard, donned Khaki tracksuits and frowns a lot to make up for the fact that he’s a thespian dropkick who wouldn’t know if his arse was on fire. Which it is, metaphorically.

Ukraine is headed for civil war because things that can’t go on don’t.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2023 2:40 pm

The Biden administration has removed the 109-year-old Reconciliation Memorial in Arlington National Cemetery

Given the close connection between the DemonRats and slavery and the Confederacy, the Party should be removed from having legal status. No more “Mr. Nice Guy” reconciliation.

johanna
johanna
December 21, 2023 2:42 pm

Robert Sewell
Dec 21, 2023 2:26 PM

Morsie

Dec 21, 2023 11:50 AM
Everyone assuming SC will overturn the Colorado decision.
I reckon there is a strong possibility that they will not take the case.
Trump has few friends on that court, maybe Alito and Thomas but none else.
I hope I am wrong

Interesting scenario, Morsie.
But what if you’re right?
Roberts is absolutely no friend of Trumps.

Anybody with their head screwed on either side realises that this is bad news.

State courts can intervene in the election of a President. It’s blatantly unconstitutional.

The plan here is to delay, delay, delay until after the election.

calli
calli
December 21, 2023 2:42 pm

Bother. There I was thinking I didn’t go far enough.

After the twerkage, she can be the first fired from a cannon in the general direction of Mt Vernon.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 2:44 pm

Daniel
@VoteLewko
The problem with naive Westerners is that they refuse to simply believe Hamas.

Here is a Hamas leader, full of praise for the Australian Government. Also, an interview where he quite openly says what he wants. The genocide of Jews.


@AlboMP, @SenatorWong and the @Greens are putting us in bed with these people for the sake of a few votes.

It’s not about Gaza. It’s about Grayndler

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
December 21, 2023 2:47 pm

Would be interesting to hear Sharaz’s ex (briefly) wife on the subject of where his tastes lie. I mean, one day you and your cats are celebrating the greatest day of your life, nek minnit Dave’s svengaliing some new bint…

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 2:48 pm

Wide Awake Media
@wideawake_media

“Only the billionaires will be able to afford to buy food, and all the other people will die.”

Greenpeace co-founder, Dr. Patrick Moore, on the genocidal consequences of Net Zero.

“Now they’re going into agriculture and threatening to cut off the supply of food, because food is causing global warming.”

“They will cause a ruination the likes of which the Earth has never seen, because there are over eight billion of us, and four billion of us depend on nitrogen fertiliser, which they now say is bad, because it’s a greenhouse gas or whatever… It’s all completely phoney. And so is the campaign against CO2.”

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 2:49 pm

State courts can intervene in the election of a President. It’s blatantly unconstitutional.

It’s happened before, including to Abraham Lincoln.

Robert Sewell
December 21, 2023 2:49 pm

Roger

Dec 21, 2023 12:56 PM
But the amazing inefficiencies and misallocation of the mixed economy with Chinese Characteristics is certainly not helping.
Western expats reportedly leaving China in droves.
And taking their expertise with them.

As much as I’d like to believe this, Wodger, have you got something to back it up?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 21, 2023 2:51 pm

Mrs Biden can twerk to the musical accompaniment.

What. As monstrous woman, right?

Her husband humiliates himself daily, is mocked by people around the world or, worse still, is has hacks throwing up defences so preposterous that they recapitulate the flaws without the momentary good feeling humour brings – defending him is a cold and heartless act to keep him as a tool rather than as a human.

We already know that Biden has an enormously pared schedule because he cannot concentrate or remember, but they are still pushing him beyond his limitations – as evidenced by the way he is still confused, aphasic, and doing that Roomba-shuffle of his. That must be eroding what wits he has left faster than allowing to go at his own pace.

And Jill Biden consents to it all. So she can play grand patrician lady in the White House.

The only consolation is that Biden deserves to suffer for a career of infamy. We must hope she too will suffer humiliation trying unconvincingly to make it look like she was a dutiful spouse.

She already suffers from the fact that she is such an obvious downgrade from the previous First Lady – and the people trying to defend her are as unconvincing as the ones defending her husband.

Tom
Tom
December 21, 2023 2:52 pm

We are witnessing the biggest economic and industrial disaster Australia has ever experienced unfold, and it all comes back to out political/technocratic class having no clue of what their ignorance is doing.

They know exactly what they’re doing — using the junk science of “climate change” and the hippy “renewables” fantasy (the latter designed by amateur teenage students of Marx’s Das Kapital — who know nothing about engineering) to dismantle the Industrial Revolution 180 years after the event.

Vicki
Vicki
December 21, 2023 2:53 pm

As one 90+ year old told me: “The key to a long life is to not eat anything that is green.“

Damn! We (& the chooks) eat spinach almost every day. The damn stuff is so prolific.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 21, 2023 2:55 pm

What a monstrous woman, right?

Sheesh!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 2:55 pm

Why are we allowing Middle East conflict to disrupt Australia’s multicultural harmony?

The Australian Jewish community has been touched by the response from the Hindu, Assyrian, Kurdish, and many other communities.

Since the October 7th Hamas attack on Israel, Australians have been confronted by shocking news. The stories out of Israel, of Islamist terrorists, raping, beheading, and burning people alive are horrendous. Most of the victims were Israelis, but the terrorists showed no mercy to anyone. Among the 1200 murdered, were citizens of Nepal, Sri Lanka, the Philippines, Thailand and even Tanzania.

Another shocking development has been the hatred playing out on Australian shores. Days after the attacks, a mob gathered at Sydney’s Opera House, chanting ‘gas the Jews’. Anti-Israel protesters have specially targeted the neighbourhoods where Australia’s Jews live. Convoys waving the Palestinian Authority flag have targeted Caulfield in Melbourne and Bondi in Sydney.

Australia’s multicultural fabric is being tested like never before.

Australia’s Jewish community is tiny.

It has never comprised more than half a per cent of Australia’s population.

Jews came to Australia on the First Fleet, but the community is overwhelmingly an immigrant community.

The largest growth came with refugees fleeing the Holocaust.

It has been strengthened by more recent, successive waves of immigrants, including from the former Soviet Union and South Africa.

Jews have been incredibly successful and contributed greatly to Australia.

The Australian Jewish community has produced multiple Governor Generals, military leaders, a federal treasurer, Chief Justices, a Premier, accomplished business persons, scientists, and thinkers.

Australian Jews have won the Nobel Prize, the Archibald Prize, Olympic Gold and just about every honour for Australia.

Businesses founded by Australian Jews are ubiquitous. Many Australians would interact daily with places like Westfield, Myer, Meriton, Spotlight, Chemist Warehouse and Kogan.

Now, many in the Jewish community are feeling very unsafe. Antisemitic incidents are up an astounding 738% since October 7.

The Australian Jewish Association has received threats, and we work closely with the police.

For the first time, I hear some members of my community questioning whether they have a future in Australia.

This should worry all Australians.

The Australian Jewish community has been touched by the response from many communities.

We have received messages of support from the Hindu, Assyrian, Kurdish, and many other communities.

Those who show the most understanding have often experienced terrorism and religious extremism themselves.

Unfortunately, not all parts of the community have behaved honourably. Chief among the instigators is the Australian Greens.

This political party pretends to promote tolerance but fuels hatred and division.

They can often be found at the scene of disgraceful antisemitic incidents.

The NSW Greens promoted the ‘gas the Jews’ protest.

Federal leader, Mehreen Faruqi was forced to delete an antisemitic image she posted of the Jewish Star of David being placed in a garbage bin, alongside the words, “Keep the world clean.”

The Greens have brought divisive Middle East politics into every level of the Australian Government.

Their senior federal leaders spread the false story that the IDF had bombed Gaza’s Al Ahli hospital.

It was later proved to have been struck by a misfired rocket from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

The Greens have introduced anti-Israel motions into councils across Australia, causing division and taking attention away from the issues that councils are supposed to focus on.

Antisemitic incidents at the Opera House and outside the Caulfield Synagogue, not only cause tensions in Australia, they also risk damaging our reputation abroad.

The response from the Albanese Government has been disappointing.

At the time of writing, neither Prime Minister Anthony Albanese nor Foreign Minister Penny Wong have visited the region, despite many world leaders having done so. Notably, the Coalition’s Shadow Minister for Foreign Affairs, Simon Birmingham has visited Israel.

Labor has called for Israel to agree to a ceasefire with the terrorist organisation, Hamas.

At the United Nations General Assembly, Australia voted for a ceasefire, unlike our allies, including the United States, United Kingdom and Germany.

Many countries in our region, like Papua New Guinea, Tonga, Nauru, Palau and others also did not vote for a ceasefire.

Australia must be careful not to demonstrate weakness to our allies or to others who are watching to see if our government has resolve.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2023 2:55 pm

But what if the entire company is about to crash? – Hello Optus?

Blaming millennials, alphas and Zs for the failings of an overpromoted Gen X feminist with no technical expertise is quite shitty form, do better chap.

Johnny Rotten
December 21, 2023 2:56 pm

Ukraine is headed for civil war because things that can’t go on don’t.

Ukraine has already gone. It is no longer a country that can stand on it’s own feet. It is on life support from the West. 2024 should see it gone. The EU is nuts to think that the Ukraine could ever join the EU and Russia will never ever let the place join NATO.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2023 2:57 pm

As much as I’d like to believe this, Wodger, have you got something to back it up?

Various reports over the last 12 months, Robert.

They’ve never had so many leaving.

You’ll have to do your own search as it’s time for my siesta.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2023 2:57 pm

Lawyer’s “final point” is BL was dishonest and gave false testament in court.

He should be able to prove that versus the Moller memo.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 2:58 pm

Vicki
Dec 21, 2023 2:53 PM
As one 90+ year old told me: “The key to a long life is to not eat anything that is green.“

Damn! We (& the chooks) eat spinach almost every day. The damn stuff is so prolific.

Popeye would be proud of you!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 21, 2023 2:58 pm

The Biden administration has removed the 109-year-old Reconciliation Memorial in Arlington National Cemetery

The Confederate flags were removed from the tomb of one Robert E Lee, some time ago..

Vicki
Vicki
December 21, 2023 2:58 pm

The EU will introduce border detention centres, streamline vetting of illegal arrivals & make deportation easier under reforms designed to stem irregular migration.

Much too late. But better late than never”.

Tom
Tom
December 21, 2023 3:07 pm

Hahaha. Every time I see him gasping for political air standing behind the SES at a floods briefing, I just see Brett Lethbridge’s rendition of the Boy Premier (h/t Roger).

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2023 3:11 pm

This magical privilege again.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2023 3:13 pm

BJ, vertical missile tubes can only be reloaded in port currently so when those ships runout they will have to return to port to replenish or be worse than useless, whatever might have happened in WW2.

There is nothing wrong being critical of the Wet but this Bejing/Moscow/Tehran boosting is off the pace.

The Russians have ONE aircraft carrier, which is a joke, an outdated ski ramp and is taken to sea by a tug boat.

The Chinese recently sunk one of their own subs with an anti-submarine net.

The Houthis have tinnies and 20-foot marlin fishing boats.

The Houthis could be knocked back to a minority party in a civil war overnight. Their “Navy” is absurd.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 21, 2023 3:14 pm

The range would be similar to coalition airstrikes launched from Qatar and UAE into Iraq during the Gulf Wars.

Indeed, Zatara. We were well aware of the range of these when our flight over southern Saudi Arabia was turned back on the night that Bush’s ultimatum came due.

If the West wished to stop this nonsense in the Red Sea they could do so now and quickly. It is only political will that is lacking. Any arguments around this are just that, arguments about political issues and strategy… where timidity is winning the day.

It may not be popular here to say it, but weakness is simply weakness.
Moving on Yemen will not necessarily bring down any further trouble, but the longer it goes on the more likely it is that such trouble will arise. Disruption that festers turns into something like we saw in Gaza after 2005, an intractable problem.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2023 3:15 pm

Chokos presented as pears for dessert?

Chokos presented as anything. Barely qualifies as chook food.

calli
calli
December 21, 2023 3:19 pm

Poor C.L. You mentioned my name. You aren’t allowed to do that here.

It’s instant downticking.

Johnny Rotten
December 21, 2023 3:20 pm

As one 90+ year old told me: “The key to a long life is to not eat anything that is green.“

Well, when it comes to frogs. Correct. And I don’t mean the French.

calli
calli
December 21, 2023 3:21 pm

What. As monstrous woman, right?

Hell, no.

I thought she identified as a sofa. Or a set of curtains.

She gives textiles a bad name.

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2023 3:22 pm

Chrysanthou hasn’t been treating Lee very cordially.

He’s said some things and she’s labelled it “absurd.” Earlier she mentioned the Russell Case and said “I have a better memory than your Honour…”

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2023 3:27 pm

Push for jail time for Kristina Keneally’s police officer son over false evidence

Jailing plod for false evidence won’t help prison overcrowding.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 3:28 pm

Don’t listen to the doubters, history shows Hamas CAN be defeated

Haisam Hassanein

“Hamas is an idea.” And you cannot kill an idea.

This is an increasingly popular argument from opponents of Israel’s military campaign in Gaza, such as Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Mohammad Shtayyeh.

It is also wrong.

As the Egyptian government demonstrated in its effort to eliminate the Muslim Brotherhood, the group that gave rise to Hamas a generation ago, ideas wither without organizations to pursue them.

The Egyptian case has special importance because of the ties between Hamas and the Brotherhood, but there’s no shortage of ideas that lost their appeal because their advocates were defeated.

The influence of communism faded quickly after the Soviet Union’s fall.

The Islamic State attracted tens of thousands of young men to its cause, yet its popularity never recovered from the caliphate’s fall at the hands of an American-led coalition.

The Egyptian president and former general, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, has spent his decade in office working to crush the Brotherhood.

His methods are rough and have resulted in sharp condemnation from American progressives.

Yet today the Brotherhood no longer exists in any meaningful form beyond a web page and a few little-known figures claiming to be leaders while living abroad.

Sisi’s thorough decapitation of the group had little to do with winning a war of ideas.

The government arrested Brotherhood leaders and forced some into exile.

It used extensive force against the group’s militant offshoots.

Perhaps most important, it waged a relentless campaign against the Brotherhood’s domestic recruitment sources by shutting down its educational institutions, intercepting funding from abroad and working through state-controlled media to criminalize Brotherhood ideology.

No question, there are still Egyptians who believe in that ideology.

The group spent decades building and indoctrinating a committed base.

But as Cairo squeezed harder and harder, infighting between the Brotherhood’s leaders in the diaspora caused it to splinter.

Israel is fighting the same enemy.

Hamas is an offshoot of the Brotherhood, which was born in Egypt and inspired dozens of radical branches across the Muslim world.

In 2007, Hamas launched a bloody coup against the Palestinian Authority in Gaza.

The clash left 800 Palestinians dead — some executed by being thrown from the top of buildings — but Hamas prevailed decisively.

Hamas’ then-politburo chief, Khaled Meshaal, called it a “military resolution.”

Western leaders often insist various problems have no military solution, but Hamas, like Russian President Vladimir Putin, knows they often do.

After taking Gaza, Hamas was able to use it as a human shield, from behind which it launched five rounds of fighting with Israel, including the Oct. 7 massacre.

Sixteen years under Hamas has been hell for Gazans.

Thousands did time in jail, where hundreds died or were released with permanent disabilities.

Per the Palestinian Bureau of Statistics, 45% of Gazans are out of work.

Many unemployed youngsters try fleeing by sea, where some end up drowning.

Hamas blames Israel, of course, yet terrorist attacks from Gaza are what necessitate the Israeli effort to isolate the coastal strip.

In its clashes with Israel, Hamas treats the people of Gaza as expendable.

Last month, an interviewer asked top Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzouk why the group builds tunnels to protect its fighters but no bomb shelters for the people.

Marzouk responded that Hamas’ role is to fight, and the United Nations or even Israel should take care of Gazans.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 21, 2023 3:29 pm

This Chrysanthou lass is pretty sharp.

But, with the typical arrogance of the Sydney legal mob, she thinks she’s smarter than ‘is Onner.

Justice Lee will give her a decent slap.

Johnny Rotten
December 21, 2023 3:30 pm

JC
Dec 21, 2023 12:59 PM
We’re ~ 30 years past GW1, Hallward. Speedboats aren’t a match for naval ships. Get back into the flight simulator game on your computer and pretend you’re landing a Dreamliner, you limey swine.

I’d prefer zero interaction with a limey pig like you but even indirect comments will be treated in the same way as direct comments. You think I’ve forgotten the racist comments you threw may way, before you galloped off to the lollipop stand. You limey pos.

Here is the fat arse ‘Mafiossi Bully’ once again not about to start any “Argy Bargy”. LOL

Obtuse Abuse at it’s worst. And this poster doesn’t like the word J.E.R.K. Tuff titties Junior. Get back into that sand pit.

calli
calli
December 21, 2023 3:32 pm

More girding of lions is going to have to take place in the next few days. I’m about to suggest to mum that she moves in with us. She is very frail and vulnerable.

We have a very large house, all kitted out for the disabled and infirm. We decided to do that at the outset rather than retro-fit.

The Beloved is more than happy for her to come here – he’s down at her’s right now paying the bills and checking on her fridge – but I’m almost sure she’ll say no, she doesn’t want to be any trouble. It’s going to take some persuasion and I’m not good at diplomacy.

Vicki
Vicki
December 21, 2023 3:36 pm

Terrible for northern Qld – but that 40mm+ rain in the last few days was a Christmas present for us. The cattle had been sweltering in hot, humid conditions (especially our big steers that still have vestiges of a winter coat) & only eating the browning off pasture during the night. Paddocks green almost overnight & house lawns I mowed before the rain began are already a few mm high.

However, all of the herd looking very well covered, except for an old cow that has few teeth left. When we are there she receives supplementary feed of cattle nuts, which have (if my memory serves) 10-12% crude protein. I call her by name and, much to the disgust (& yes emotions appear in their eyes) of the rest of the herd, she comes to the gate & is locked on her own in the next paddock to consume her special feed. She is a very well bred cow & produced some lovely calves. She deserves a comfortable old age.

Don’t we all?

Johnny Rotten
December 21, 2023 3:37 pm

Financial Literacy Courses Coming to US Schools

“Public schools in America are not required to teach financial literacy. We have seen the repercussions of America’s financial illiteracy over the decades and it will be absolutely crucial to understand basic personal finance during this volatile time. A new Pennsylvania law ensures that 53% of high school students in the US will have guaranteed access to a mandatory financial education course. Currently, eight states guarantee that students will take a personal finance course, and 17 states are in the process of implementing similar policies. This initiative is aimed at equipping students with essential financial knowledge before graduation.

A study by Walden University found that 4 in 7 Americans are financially illiterate and cannot manage their personal finances. The study believes finance should be introduced in schools at a kindergarten level, no different from math, reading, or other pillars. The National Financial Educators Council estimates that 254 million Americans were financially illiterate as of 2022, costing Americans $436 billion.

The majority of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. I reported in 2022 that even one-third of high-income citizens earning over $250,000 annually were also living paycheck to paycheck, as inflation does not discriminate based on income. We have seen hardship 401K withdrawals increase this year. Credit card debt is the highest it has ever been. A survey by Clever Real Estate found that 64% of Gen Xers have stopped saving for retirement as they are either paying off past debt or simply cannot afford to save.

The US government also knows that the next generation will NEVER see Social Security. Retirement is now viewed as an unobtainable luxury to most. Social Security is not enough to live on alone, and a good portion of the nation simply does not have the savings to exit the workforce. Financial literacy is crucial to our nation’s success and this one piece of government funding I believe could pay off in the long-term.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/americas-current-economy/financial-literacy-courses-coming-to-us-schools/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

In the meantime they could teach financial literacy to the US Congress. Ever heard of a balanced Budget?

calli
calli
December 21, 2023 3:37 pm

“Hamas is an idea.” And you cannot kill an idea.

Yes you can.

Unless the flat earth really is the centre of the solar system.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2023 3:39 pm

She actually sounds a bit more rushed in her submission than she did during questions.
Dragging in 10 cases now isnt going to change what’s been said already.
Saying what a witness said (and she cross examined them) is irrelevant now is silly.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2023 3:41 pm

dot, the criticisms that followed the above are just laughable.

No, they are not. Each claim is verifiable and otherwise common knowledge.

You have drunk too much of the Vodka and Sewer Oil Flavoured Kool-Aid here champ.

IIRC each USN Destroyer or Frigate also carries CWIS, 25 mm autocannons, .50 cal machine guns a 5″ gun and torpedoes. Each of those, even the smallest (.50 cal machine gun), can light up/sink a tinnie or 20-foot marlin boat the Houthis are pretending to have a Navy with.

“They’ll run out of missiles!”

Not likely. They can just sub the ships in and out.

The USN has 45+ attack subs, 13 Frigates, 73 destroyers…

Kneel
Kneel
December 21, 2023 3:41 pm

“Critics have called the measures a capitulation to right-wing populists.”

Populist: someone who acts in a way that the majority want.
Sounds like democracy to me…

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 3:42 pm

This year’s first round uni offers revealed

Education courses have surged in popularity this year but society, culture and health remain Victoria’s most popular university paths.

Society and culture courses make up 19.75 per cent of first-round offers, slightly down on last year’s popularity.

Health saw the largest increase, accounting for 17.62 per cent of all offers.

Management and commerce courses were the third favourite, with 15.72 per cent of first-round offers.

Growth in Victorian teacher education courses is strong, with 1463 teaching offers made on Thursday – up 8.05 per cent from this time last year.

Tom
Tom
December 21, 2023 3:42 pm

Chrysanthou hasn’t been treating Lee very cordially.
He’s said some things and she’s labelled it “absurd.”

I’d suggest our learned friend is not only heading for a high-profile defeat in court, she may also be indulging in excesses that wind up being career-limiting if she continues to criticise hizzoner.

Chrysanthou appears partial to drinking her own bathwater. Judge Lee isn’t your bunny, sweetie. Best be careful.

Johnny Rotten
December 21, 2023 3:43 pm

There is nothing wrong being critical of the Wet

Dotty Dot. Do you mean the rain or the West? Spell checker prease. LOL

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 3:43 pm
feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2023 3:44 pm

My last post didn’t come out right. But I couldn’t be bothered explaining it better.

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 21, 2023 3:45 pm

No way is a man who dresses in matching white with his girlfriend at the airport and then matching black on arrival abroad is heterosexual

Seeing Sharaz in that kit made me think he looks like a cross between Ricky Gervais and Mr Chow Mein of Benny Hill fame.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
December 21, 2023 3:46 pm

I wondered if Chrysanthou was deliberately attempting to provoke a further slap from Justice Lee so she and her customer can better run a line that he and his court were biased and misogynistic and that they couldn’t get a fair hearing.

Vicki
Vicki
December 21, 2023 3:46 pm

The Egyptian president and former general, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, has spent his decade in office working to crush the Brotherhood.
His methods are rough and have resulted in sharp condemnation from American progressives.

El-Sisi knows the Brotherhood is poison to a modern state in the Middle East. He may not have the financial clout of the Saudi & Emirati royalty, but he understands the way the Brotherhood operates. There is no way he will allow the dispossessed Gazans to settle in Egypt. This would just make his job of eliminating any Hamas crazies too difficult.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2023 3:47 pm

Damn! We (& the chooks) eat spinach almost every day. The damn stuff is so prolific.

English spinach is fine (particularly with garlic). Sand is a bit of an issue although Western Australians have probably evolved to digest it. Chard is like eating mud. Chooks wouldn’t notice the difference.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2023 3:47 pm

I like how Lee has referred to “reading between the lines” twice now, is a big slap at Saint Lisa.

Johnny Rotten
December 21, 2023 3:48 pm

OldOzzie
Dec 21, 2023 3:42 PM
This year’s first round uni offers revealed

Is there a course for “Pollies” or are they recruited from prisons? The same goes for ‘Used Car Sales People’,

Johnny Rotten
December 21, 2023 3:51 pm

OldOzzie
Dec 21, 2023 3:43 PM
Robberies, burglaries, theft: Crimes committed by children up in Victoria

New statistics show that the number of offences committed by 10 to 13-year-olds increased by 33.1 per cent over the past year.

More budding “Pollies” on the way. And ‘Used Car Sales People’.

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 21, 2023 3:54 pm

Some ships of the USN in that war stayed away from the USA for years at a time.

IIRC during WW2. allied destroyers could only reload torpedoes in port. Which is why a huge base was set up at Ulithi amongst others.

Again IIRC ships damaged in battle were first sailed to Ulithi for repairs that would enable them to get to major dockyards at Pearl Harbour, or either coast of the US.

Usually within a few weeks if taking an island Seebees had a base operating within a few weeks. For a full list https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Naval_Advance_Bases

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 21, 2023 3:58 pm

cohenite, does that mean you’re going to be known as Handsome Boy.

Vicki
Vicki
December 21, 2023 3:59 pm

English spinach is fine (particularly with garlic)

Bear – I do prepare the spinach with garlic. Rather than steam it (which becomes boring) I pan fry with onion & garlic, some chilli (sparing!) & coriander – & sometimes other spices as well.

The chooks ADORE spinach, & I suspect this is why the yolks of their eggs are so rich. When let out to free range they are also contesting the crows in eating the fallen apricots from one of our trees in the orchard. The tree is absolutely laden & this morning husband and I remove as many of the ripe fruit (for jam) as we could before returning to Sydney. While the local family of crows will eat a fair few, the crop will be demolished if a passing flock of cockies spy i while we are away.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
December 21, 2023 4:00 pm

“Aspiring rapper”s

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2023 4:03 pm

dover0beach
Dec 21, 2023 2:52 PM
There is this development (that dates back to the 1940s) called Replenishment at Sea.

Some ships of the USN in that war stayed away from the USA for years at a time.

BJ, vertical missile tubes can only be reloaded in port currently so when those ships runout they will have to return to port to replenish or be worse than useless, whatever might have happened in WW2.

Only at a port in the US, or are other ports equipped for the task?

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2023 4:04 pm

Feb 2, 2022
Putin has wiped out the air force and owns the skies over Ukraine. He could annihilate the country in less than 3 days, but he is not doing that to the West’s befuddlement.

Jul 16, 2022
Russia has been unable to use its air power because NATO is providing Ukraine with all the tactical information needed so they only need to turn on their radar minutes before launching and as such Russia cannot destroy those systems which have been supplanted by NATO.

Pogria
Pogria
December 21, 2023 4:10 pm

Beertruk,
I am more than happy for you to run with that term. It isn’t mine though. Here’s the original.
You may be able to view it on you tube. Don’t eat before watching though. 😀

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 21, 2023 4:11 pm

The tree is absolutely laden & this morning husband and I remove as many of the ripe fruit (for jam) as we could before returning to Sydney. While the local family of crows will eat a fair few, the crop will be demolished if a passing flock of cockies spy i while we are away.

Vicki fresh ripe apricots halved and sprinkled with vanilla sugar and roasted are nectar of the gods — absolutely delicious roasted with nectarines, plums and peaches — delicious served with ice cream or if there are left overs of the roastage mixed through ice cream and re-frozen. Salivating madly, sadly it will be a very very quiet Christmas this year in our home.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2023 4:16 pm

dover0beach
Dec 21, 2023 3:40 PM
If the West wished to stop this nonsense in the Red Sea they could do so now and quickly. It is only political will that is lacking. Any arguments around this are just that, arguments about political issues and strategy… where timidity is winning the day.

Without troops, no, and they can’t even meet their recruiting targets at present. Even so, it’s amazing that people that witnessed the failures of previous intervention over the last 2 decades still promoting ever more new ones.

I suspect that the new strategy will be to strike hard, and leave the targets to clean up the mess. Large land forces ashore will not be on the agenda.

Why try to beat the Houthis up in the hills? Destroy their missile systems and associated infrastructure, and leave them to clean up.

cohenite
December 21, 2023 4:17 pm

cohenite, does that mean you’re going to be known as Handsome Boy.

No, rub and tug has that sown up. I am known in the better circles as he who struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard a lot more.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 21, 2023 4:17 pm

Daily Mail.

Iranian child bride forced to marry at 15 is hanged a decade after murdering her husband who had abused her for years

Samira Sabzian, 29, who had been in prison for the past decade, was executed

JC
JC
December 21, 2023 4:17 pm

Here is the fat arse ‘Mafiossi Bully’ once again not about to start any “Argy Bargy”. LOL

Obtuse Abuse at it’s worst. And this poster doesn’t like the word J.E.R.K. Tuff titties Junior. Get back into that sand pit.

The other limey wog tries to start another stoush, then presents us with a burst of Marty flatulence, in between correcting “wet” with west.

His comments today, like all days, are an inspiration to any retarded crook wanting to comment on a blog.

Wodney, go check the catalogue and see what’s on offer.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2023 4:18 pm

Essentially too hot here for spinach, lettuce and coriander- all basically bolt to seed within weeks. You might one decent crop around autumn if you’re lucky with timing. I don’t really bother now. Most of the courtyard/garden now too shady for vegetables.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2023 4:20 pm

Lisa : I’m a super serious important journalist.

Lisa’s lawyer : none of the decisions of consequence were her responsibility, also she was getting her hair and makeup done.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2023 4:20 pm

The Houthis are nothing but we have to hit it with everything. I’m crying here.

The US is simply minimising losses by using teamwork and using higher ground.

You know, like a real military power, regardless of who the President is.

Gilas
Gilas
December 21, 2023 4:21 pm

Have been listening to final submissions from Channel 10 and Bunions’ SC this afternoon. Unfortunately missed this morning’s session, which has disappeared from YT.

The abstruseness of the legal precedents mentioned by Chrysanthou is off the scale. She’s doing a great job of making Bunions appear to be the last Angelic Virgin left on Earth.

Lee appears more resigned than convinced by the endless barrage, just as if he was married to her.
However, kudos to Chrysanthou for her sense of humour and persistence.. I’d definitely hire her if I was brain-damaged enough to take a claim of defamation to Court.

Unlike other Feline Learned Friends on this blog, I wouldn’t be so sure on the outcome of this trainwreck.
The law is so arcane, and the tests that must be passed so numerous, that no definite conclusion can be drawn. Mostly because Brucie is a moronic liar, and has badly damaged his own case.
Even Hoggin’s mastodontic howlers could be neutralised by Brucie’s extraordinary stupidity.

Maybe Whybrow will tilt the scales tomorrow.. we can only hope.

BTW, what’s with Collins’ black ring on his L index finger? Is it a gay signal?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2023 4:25 pm

Kneel
Dec 21, 2023 3:41 PM
“Critics have called the measures a capitulation to right-wing populists.”

Populist: someone who acts in a way that the majority want.
Sounds like democracy to me…

Remember:

“When the polls agree with the leftards, that is the will of the people.”

“When the polls do NOT agree with the leftards, that is cheap populism.”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2023 4:26 pm

Liverpool will introduce ‘bleeding control cabinets’ containing tourniquets and wound sealers to city streets in effort to stem deaths from shocking rise in knife crime across Britain

. Six new stab survival containers will be installed across Liverpool’s city centre
. 20 more are expected to be installed across the North West
. England and Wales has seen a rise in knife-related offences in the past decade

Meanwhile

Gun-toting brothers who lay in wait to ambush would-be thieves who tried to steal their motorbikes are jailed for more than 40 YEARS after shooting at robbers

. Christopher and Colin Nourse were given over 40 years in prison on Wednesday
. They shot at robbers who tried taking their motorcycles and hit one in the arm
. Police said they had acted recklessly and took justice into their own hands

From the Comments

– What sentence did the bike thieves get.

– Its a disgrace.. victory for the thieves.

– Next time just give your keys to robbers who get 6 months for stealing them

– 30 years for firing a gun . 10 years if you stab someone to death.

– Flip this case on it’s head, so the robbers shot the bike owners. They would have got 5 years max if the judge had a hangover ! Something very very wrong here.

– I bet the police wouldn’t have done anything to stop the theft or even investigate it. Seems a harsh sentence to say the least.

JC
JC
December 21, 2023 4:28 pm

The Houthis are nothing but we have to hit it with everything. I’m crying here.

They’ve got missiles given to them by their Iranian bosses, AK47s and several rubber dinghies they bought second hand on Ebay as their navy, which we are told that back before GW1 were considered deadly by higher up US naval personnel. At $712.39 annual GDP per capita they can’t be trifled with. I’m worried.

They’re also great ballroom dancers too.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2023 4:33 pm

Diogenes
Dec 21, 2023 3:54 PM
Some ships of the USN in that war stayed away from the USA for years at a time.

IIRC during WW2. allied destroyers could only reload torpedoes in port. Which is why a huge base was set up at Ulithi amongst others.

Again IIRC ships damaged in battle were first sailed to Ulithi for repairs that would enable them to get to major dockyards at Pearl Harbour, or either coast of the US.

Lightly damaged ships were repaired at places like Ulithi and Manus, using the facilities on repair ships, not shore bases. Then abck into action.

The Third (Halsey) and Fifth (Spruance) Fleets were essentially the same ships and men, with different command teams. Short breaks at places like Ulithi, then back to the war.

Delta A
Delta A
December 21, 2023 4:33 pm

I’m about to suggest to mum that she moves in with us.

Calli, we have been in precisely that situation and, like your mother, we refused initially on the grounds that she and SiL had enough to do caring for their large family.

Another issue for us- particularly for Best Man – was the idea of relinquishing a degree of autonomy over our lives, especially our place of residence. Apart from our first year together renting, we have owned our own homes and enjoyed complete authority over every detail ie, choosing furnishings, decor, garden – everything. BM was very reluctant to give this up and TBH, it took him several months before he started to feel ‘at home’ in our new digs.

Fortunately daughter, whom he adores, cleverly cajoled him into taking on certain responsibilities similar to those he had asumed since my operation. In addition, there was plenty of outside work – establishing our gardens, running after the dorpers and collecting eggs. (He’s become quite fond of the chickens. Not so the dorpers.)

It was different for me. Being wheelchair bound, my contribution to our new household was quite limited, until I muscled in on the kitchen and took over half the cooking. It was very important to me – and to BM – that we felt genuinely useful.

That will be a major factor for your mother: that she doesn’t feel like a liability. Useless. Assign her some household tasks and let her choose menus from time to time. Buy her a budgie; 🙂 anything to promote her sense of independence.

Good luck, calli. It is a very fine thing which you are proposing.

calli
calli
December 21, 2023 4:42 pm

She’s in a bit of a fog of grief right now, but open to the idea of moving out – she has been for at least 18 months but Dad was stubborn and very, very sick. She has quite serious mobility problems, but her brain is top notch.

We had her “assessed” yesterday, and a number of “brochures” were left for her to look at. There is no shortage of assisted care for the elderly hereabouts. But…she needs a home, not a quasi hospital. Not until she really needs it, hence the assessment. I want her on the books just in case.

Also, she’s a lovely old dear, and has been the Beloved’s “mum” for nearly 20 years. She won’t be any trouble. If it was me, I’d be the horrible old bat ready for relocating to God’s waiting room. 😀

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