Open Thread – Weekend 30 Dec 2023


Oak Grove, Ivan Shishkin, 1887

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calli
calli
December 30, 2023 1:02 pm

“been here since 1967 (10pound tourist) and never took out Oz citizenship .. not for any special reason just never got around to it ..Npowadays, given the state of Oz caused by the contentious decisions coming from gummints (state & Fed) I’m quite happy with myself for not bothering …”

Is the Old Dart paying for public housing and pensions these days?

I’d re-think the “not bothering” if I were you.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 1:04 pm

Mashri is trying to get people to move their super out of funds that invest in Israel ie any business linked to Jews.
I hope he has much success.
I wonder if superannuation is halal, dividends might be okay but I can’t see interest bearing accounts as kosher for muslims.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 30, 2023 1:06 pm

Well said about the Councils, Katz. Concentrating on the ones who do want something leftist rather than the majority who don’t is how the Voice was lost. It’s how the media sets a narrative and hopes that the herd will follow. As with the Voice, it’s up to us to ensure that the media, opinion-formers (what they think they are), don’t get away with it, by setting a counter-narrative that tells it like it really is.

shatterzzz
December 30, 2023 1:06 pm

But presumably, in the event, you would expect the locals to defend you.

That’s wierd! .. what does it mean? .. cos I ain’t spent a few bob getting a piece of paper I’m somehow not worthy/different/whatever ..!
bit of paper ain’t gonna change my accent .. but I have contributed 4 Oz kids and 8 Oz grandees to the mix …!

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 1:06 pm

Just loving the self congratulations of someone who’s spent almost his entire life in Australia living off the taxpayer.

Damon
Damon
December 30, 2023 1:06 pm

“Que? No – it was November 2019.”

Of course. You have a problem with the comment, or just the date?

Tom
Tom
December 30, 2023 1:07 pm

… it’s only logical that all immigration will be a net expense for the country. I’m surprised that taxpayers have not already objected to the situation.

Never forget that the motivation for anti-democratic regimes like the Biden junta and Elbow’s ALP (which no longer represents even the working class) to open the borders to the planet’s Third World trash is to replace the existing electorate with obedient, left-voting welfare dependents.

The people running Biden hate America and Labor’s Faceless Men hate Australia.

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 1:09 pm

Speaking of the Old Dart, I’ve been thinking about this song, penned almost fifty years ago. It could have been written last week.

The manipulative media, misplaced nostalgia, wars concocted for fun and profit. And not so long after Munich, which inspired the title. I posted the one with the lyrics because of the last line.

I wonder what form Helen’s face will take this time? Iran looks like a goer, now that Ukraine is in yesterday’s news.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 1:10 pm

But Israel is vulnerable, surrounded by passionate enemies and ambivalent friends, and it should be rebuilding and re-girding, not launching a full scale invasion of Gaza.

The hostages, the obligation to bring those responsible to account and make sure they can never ever ever do it again.
The inhumane treatment of the hostages is mind boggling. None of the progressive pallimuppets would treat a house mouse the way gazans have treated the hostages.
Yet they continue to excuse them.

Damon
Damon
December 30, 2023 1:13 pm

“I have contributed 4 Oz kids and 8 Oz grandees to the mix …!”

Great. Are they going to be first in line to defend us? or just, you know, it was too much. trouble at the time?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 30, 2023 1:23 pm

What is the problem, Damon.

Shaterzzz has paid his taxes and obeyed our laws.

I would point out that we have a far bigger problem with people who have been granted citizenship, but do not work, and who sneer at our laws and culture.

Citizenship might not be a definitive test of worth.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 30, 2023 1:23 pm

I’d suggest the response to the Voice referendum was also an expression of the rejection of identity politics.

Not strictly an imported problem, but I’d broadly agree with that.
At the grass roots level.

Sadly, I don’t see that clear-cut rejection translating into practical politics, in fact, rather the reverse. I’m currently watching politicians looking for solutions that get around the expressed rejection to segue into the post-Voice mechanisms of truth telling and reparations. Which were the deliberately vague, shaded main game.

My take on the Referendum result, unfortunately, is that Australian politicians believe they can, to a very substantial extent, obfuscate and safely ignore the substance of popular will.

P
P
December 30, 2023 1:23 pm

If you don’t manufacture anything then increased immigration simply increases the demand for imported manufactured goods. Where is the economic growth?

The Stones of Gosh
by Clarence Michael James Stanislaus Dennis (1917)

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 1:25 pm

I think you’re worthy, Shatterzzz. But I also think taking out citizenship in the country that has given you a home is important.

Mum renounced her British citizenship 30 years ago. She hadn’t lived in a British country since ‘52. What a business it was, but she was glad she did it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 30, 2023 1:27 pm

To allow a past work of art to enter your mind is to be embarked upon a reclamation project, a rescue mission. “As you read, Nicholas and Sonya are alive, but Tolstoy himself is still alive. He isn’t gone, his mind is still producing, he continues in human consciousness. You are continuing something.”

I felt that way about Middlemarch, and much of the nineteenth century oeuvre, especially Austen and Hardy, but including occasional out-of-England forays into Zola and Dostoevsky, Henry James and the later Americans. As I read I realised I wasn’t much emotionally leaving the England of my past, the milieu that formed my grandparents, who were better represented by Dickens, whom I disliked. Could never get into Proust. Hairy has been pressing Tolstoy’s War and Peace on me ever since we met. I’m still resisting, can’t say why really. Except it’s not a speedy read. 🙂

Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2023 1:28 pm

How to eat? Remove from foil base without scalding fingers, pump full of tomato sauce through the roof vent and chomp.

It all sounded so good until you got to the tomato sauce horror bit – full of sugar too. Yuk. Brown sauce (HP) would be better IMHO.

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 1:29 pm

She had never really thought about it until she needed a passport. Then out came those two splendid native animals of the British Isles, the lion and the unicorn!

Oi! What’s all this then? Furriner! 😀

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2023 1:29 pm

Mak Siccar on the subject of pies.
Just to illustrate that not all dieticians are Vegan SS, I confessed pies to the dietician I visited.
I just got the moderation speech.
“Yeah, as long as you aren’t eating them every day, there’s nothing wrong with the occasional pie. You have to enjoy food after all.”

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 1:30 pm

Low sugar tomato sauce, I’ll have you know. There is such a beast, and it’s quite acceptable.

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 1:31 pm

Hairy has been pressing Tolstoy’s War and Peace on me ever since we met. I’m still resisting, can’t say why really. Except it’s not a speedy read.

I read it one summer holiday when I was c. 20.

Almost couldn’t put it down.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 30, 2023 1:35 pm

The comment:

“been here since 1967 (10pound tourist) and never took out Oz citizenship .. not for any special reason just never got around to it ..Npowadays, given the state of Oz caused by the contentious decisions coming from gummints (state & Fed) I’m quite happy with myself for not bothering …”

Which drew the following sack-whack:

But presumably, in the event, you would expect the locals to defend you.

Bam.

I get what Lode’s saying about definitive tests – but if you never bothered to take out citizenship, regardless of how many half-caste Australians you’re responsible for, or whether you’ve paid tax or not – you do not get to complain.

If you do, then it’s a simple ‘off you go then’ moment.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
December 30, 2023 1:36 pm

Its a bloody great day here in the ‘Best’ state in Aust…WEST. AUST. The Sun is shining , shops are full,real estate is hott even the middle aged are dressing to show off there new xmas tatts. Our state Govt. rewarded us good citizens by getting Cold Play to perform here and our balance of trade is more in the ‘black’ than a ‘YES’ vote. God is Great.

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 1:36 pm

On classic literature from other lands, this just about sums it up.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2023 1:37 pm

That was certainly the clear expectation when I arrived on these shores 40+ years ago. Dissatisfied foreigners and (especially) Whinging Poms were expected to settle or go home.

And yet Wodney is still here, whining like a Doodlebug.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 30, 2023 1:39 pm

Obnoxious old twot………..LoL

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 30, 2023 1:40 pm

My mother never renounced her British citizenship, even though we said she could become a dual citizen, she clung to the idea of being British. She also never divorced my father, although they were separated for more than forty years. A traditionalist.

I took on Australian citizenship after my honeymoon in Portuguese Timor with my first husband in January 1969. We arrived at Baucau village by TAA from Darwin, on a WW2 airstrip a hundred km or more from Dili, which we accessed later on a Chinese truck-bus. We were herded off the plane and separated by passport type into different sheds by Portuguese soldiers. I vowed then to become Australian and never be separated from him again (lol) and also to have a passport where we both had the same name – his. I was Mrs, and proud of it.

Hairy became an Australian citizen after marrying his first wife, an Australian in Britain, and deciding to stay in Australia when they arrived on holidays and liked it. We still have the large and very good quality flag, a made-in-Australia one not a Chinese special, that she threw over him after the ceremony.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2023 1:42 pm

calli

Dec 30, 2023 1:30 PM

Low sugar tomato sauce, I’ll have you know. There is such a beast, and it’s quite acceptable.

I really don’t get why tomato sauce has so much sugar.
Ripe tomatoes have enough.
I always try to get Mrs P to halve the sugar in our homemade sauce.
We just store it in the bar fridge which solves the preservative problem.
Another thing the dietician said.
Don’t get too excited about the sugar and salt content of things like sauce, as long as you treat them like condiments, and not drown your food with them.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 30, 2023 1:43 pm

lol, Calli, what an excellent little summary there is in that link.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 30, 2023 1:49 pm

Australia has 537 councils – WA: 137, NSW: 129, Vic: 79, Qld: 78, SA: 71, Tas: 80, NT: 19.

Absolutely useless. I got a four year gig as an aldermen with one of my proposals being to have less. The local paper thought it hilarious.

Tasmania should have three councils. NT could get away with three as well.

Councils nowadays are basically a breeding ground for junior politicans. The CEO’s are always on a massive pay amount too – think $200k as a minimum for most. And councils constantly exceed their brief of rats, roads, and rubbish.

In my time I was once the only one who opposed “drag queen story time” at the local library. I was basically a failure – couldn’t get any proposal up most of the time, as you needed five out of eight votes to pass anything.

Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2023 1:50 pm

My take on the Referendum result, unfortunately, is that Australian politicians believe they can, to a very substantial extent, obfuscate and safely ignore the substance of popular will.

And totally ignore the Australian Constitution that Australia as a Nation is founded upon. What utter Crooks.

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 1:50 pm

My take on the Referendum result, unfortunately, is that Australian politicians believe they can, to a very substantial extent, obfuscate and safely ignore the substance of popular will.

Australia has a rather unique polity that favours the political centre over the extremes (often unfairly so called). But I don’t think we’ll avoid the trends we’re seeing abroad, even (especially?) in W. Europe. The reaction against elite consensus politics will just be expressed in a very Australian way.

Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2023 2:00 pm

Sancho Panzer
Dec 30, 2023 1:37 PM

And in the sour tone of Mrs Stencho Pantyhose’s gob………

Sure

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 2:00 pm

My mother never renounced her British citizenship, even though we said she could become a dual citizen, she clung to the idea of being British.

Mme Zulu, for her own reasons, has never taken Australian citizenship, and travels on a Dutch passport.

In 2000, we went to the Netherlands, in her case, for the first time since she left as a child in 1954.

She had her passport stamped at Scipol, and was wished a hearty “Welcome home, M’Frau.”

My passport was held at arms length, and I was asked if I was South African…..

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 2:02 pm

On classic literature from other lands, this just about sums it up.

But…but…Tolstoy is nothing like Dostoevsky.

The literary critic and polymath George Steiner* wrote a whole book on the topic.

* One of the most deeply impressive men I’ve ever had the privilege of hearing speak.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 2:03 pm

Daily Mail.

Australia’s most popular politicians – ranked

From popular….

Penny Wong +14

Jacqui Lambie +10

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price +6

David Pocock +5

Tanya Plibersek +3

Jason Clare +2

Mark Butler +1

Jim Chalmers 0

To unpopular…

Richard Marles -1

Anthony Albanese -3

Sussan Ley -5

Adam Bandt -10

Peter Dutton -12

Pauline Hanson -25

Barnaby Joyce -27

Scott Morrison -35

Source: Resolve Political Monitor poll commissioned for Nine newspapers

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 2:05 pm

Johnny Rotten
Dec 30, 2023 1:50 PM

What utter Crooks.

Irony meter flicking 103/100. Never seen it run so high.

Damon
Damon
December 30, 2023 2:05 pm

“Citizenship might not be a definitive test of worth.”

–but the willingness to become one definitely is.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 30, 2023 2:06 pm

more than 80 local councils across the country have said they will dump their traditional citizenship ceremonies on January 26.

Here’s a great policy for the Libs, Nats and PHON.

Promise to pass legislation that ratepayers may legally withhold rates from any council that fails to acknowledge Australia Day and ANZAC Day.

It would be very popular and would cause some excellent and agile backflips by council critters.

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2023 2:08 pm

In my time I was once the only one who opposed “drag queen story time” at the local library. I was basically a failure – couldn’t get any proposal up most of the time, as you needed five out of eight votes to pass anything.

Pretty much my experience in local politics. I started a ginger group opposing the lefties who ran the Sydney City Council at the time. Met a lot of interesting people. But accomplish, much? Not really. Had a bit of fun in meetings – asking awkward questions and all of that. But did I change the course of the ship of state? Of course not.

At the end of the day, I think that people like me (& probably most of the Cats) take ourselves and our principles too seriously to compromise to the extent that you must in order to achieve even minor victories. That’s what sucks about politics. And I suspect that we expect “our people” in political parties to do what we wouldn’t, or couldn’t do.

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2023 2:09 pm

Anyway, TopEnder, I suppose at least we had a go.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
December 30, 2023 2:09 pm

Rabz
Weekends Oz has an interesting read on the most complete 52 albums – the ferrets and Russell Morris included.
Roxy Music Stranded included.
Quite a few Aussie artists in there.
THe Elton John recording I have never heard of.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 30, 2023 2:12 pm

I knew a bloke, a Scot, who came out in the 70’s.

He was planning to retire back in Scotland so he never took out Australian citizenship.

That is until he was close to retirement age and he realised that he was not bound to what had essentially become a mental habit. He decided he was going to stay here.

After the ceremony the project office threw him a morning tea celebration – and watched him wrangle with a Tim Tam to drink a cup of milk through it.

Mad scotch drinker but.

If my liver should die, think only this of me:
That there’s some corner of a foreign cemetary
That is for ever Scotland.

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 2:12 pm

And I suspect that we expect “our people” in political parties to do what we wouldn’t, or couldn’t do.

I just expect that when a party has published a political platform it sticks to it.

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 2:13 pm

I knew a bloke, a Scot, who came out in the 70’s.

Brave.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 2:13 pm

When it comes to taxes I think it’s ‘or not’.

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2023 2:16 pm

Daily Mail.
Australia’s most popular politicians – ranked

Some of those rankings are predictable eg

Penny Wong – a big rating – but she rates highly with the Left/Wokes/Women per se/Chinese Australians – so that is a big demographic

The high rankings of some of the rest seem, to me, to be defined by their perceived genuine beliefs – whether these are approved or not eg Hanson, Lambie, Joyce & Bandt. I was surprised, however, that Price didn’t rate too high. Surprised by hihi ranking of Morrison – but then, as I have said before, he once represented the values of Middle Australia.

will
will
December 30, 2023 2:17 pm

watched him wrangle with a Tim Tam to drink a cup of milk through it.

A Tim Tam wrangler! Mad skilz

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 2:19 pm

Penny Wong – a big rating – but she rates highly with the Left/Wokes/Women per se/Chinese Australians – so that is a big demographic

ALP wisdom is that she’s in the senate because she could never win a seat in the Reps.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 30, 2023 2:19 pm

Australia’s most popular politicians – ranked

From popular….

Penny Wong +14

Yech. That’s the most depressing thing I’ve heard all year. Ms Frozenly Frigid is the most popular pollie in the whole country?? We’re gone, totally, the fall of Rome was a kiddie walk compared to what is happening here. Bring on the barbarian hordes, please.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2023 2:20 pm

will

Dec 30, 2023 2:17 PM

watched him wrangle with a Tim Tam to drink a cup of milk through it.

A Tim Tam wrangler! Mad skilz

Mand mah tea!!!

Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2023 2:21 pm

Dr Faustus
Dec 30, 2023 1:23 PM

The definition of a Politician is a person with a failed solution to a problem that does not exist. And they get paid for it.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 30, 2023 2:22 pm

ALP wisdom is that she’s in the senate because she could never win a seat in the Reps.

Punters aren’t keen on blokes that don’t have a cock.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 2:23 pm

First arrest in 2 years.

NY AG James
@NewYorkStateAG
My office just took down a car theft ring responsible for stealing and selling vehicles across New York City.

This kind of theft can be devastating, and with the assistance of @NYPDnews
and our partners in law enforcement, we’re taking action to keep New Yorkers safe.

Too busy tweeting about how she’s going to take down Trump.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 2:26 pm

I have never quite understood how the bombing or ground campaign assisted the hostages.

It doesn’t help and they can’t help much, as the first objective is to annihilate hamarse. You have to simply account for them as dead and anything above that is a gain.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2023 2:26 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

Dec 30, 2023 2:00 PM

My mother never renounced her British citizenship, even though we said she could become a dual citizen, she clung to the idea of being British.

Mme Zulu, for her own reasons, has never taken Australian citizenship, and travels on a Dutch passport.

In 2000, we went to the Netherlands, in her case, for the first time since she left as a child in 1954.

She had her passport stamped at Scipol, and was wished a hearty “Welcome home, M’Frau.”

My passport was held at arms length, and I was asked if I was South African…..

Why on earth would they ask that?

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 2:27 pm

The only passport I have is an Australian one. It is tucked in my drawer and I checked it was still there yesterday ready for my next adventure, I’ve booked accommodation as far as Oblia in Sardinia but might wing it from there.
As long as I’m in Cagliara for the ferry to Palermo on the 3rd of February and in Paris on the 10th of March I’m good.
I’m a bit anxious about buses in Corsica and from the ferry port in Santa Teresa Gallura but at least I know exactly where the buses stop so figures crossed the timetables are accurate.
All the locations I’m staying in so far look stunning so weather permitting it should be fantastic.
And if the weather is crap I can just sit in a cafe with a cafe and watch the world go by.

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 2:30 pm

Yech. That’s the most depressing thing I’ve heard all year.

Don’t take it too seriously, Bruce.

The pollsters most likely designed the poll for the result.

Morison’s position looks about right though.

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2023 2:32 pm

On fox watch again. Droppings show that he is patrolling the chicken run once more, even though we have installed an electric wire at fox nose height.

Had gun ready (no details needed) when he/she appeared late afternoon in the orchard/vege garden/chicken run area. It was snuffling around under the apricot tree. Isn’t everyone? While we were in Sydney the crows & other free loaders had pretty much demolished the rest of the crop, leaving partially eaten fruit beneath the tree. I suspect the fox was cleaning up these. Lucky the chooks were penned earlier after free ranging. Took a shot, but it was in the shadows & took off like a rocket.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2023 2:33 pm

Roger

Dec 30, 2023 2:30 PM

Yech. That’s the most depressing thing I’ve heard all year.

Don’t take it too seriously, Bruce.

The pollsters most likely designed the poll for the result.

Exactly.
J’ism school vacation students having a larf.

Morison’s position looks about right though.

Where did Bob Menzies rate?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 30, 2023 2:36 pm

–but the willingness to become one definitely is.

That just means choosing to become a citizen makes you worthy of it. But we know that there a lot of horrible people who have become citizens.

I would say that Shatterzzz has proven to be good member of the community. He would be entitled to vote if he enrolled before 1984 (I believe) and if so must hang his head in shame at the sight of politics in Australia along with the rest of us.

I suppose it was just the ‘who is going to defend who’ line that struck me as particularly ungracious. Most Aussies don’t serve in the ADF and we don’t hold that against them, as long as they busy themselves contributing otherwise.

Actually, what really annoys me is hearing about ‘Australians’ being trapped in Muslim shitholes, or needing support in or evacuation from said shitholes, or dying in said shitholes only to find out that they come from those shitholes and have gone backs to participate in expanding shitholification of the world in the name of Allah. They are called Australians because of their citizenship, but I do not consider that they should be called Australian.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 30, 2023 2:38 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Dec 30, 2023 2:03 PM

Daily Mail.
Australia’s most popular politicians – ranked

You can. not. be serious.
A shit-list which doesn’t have the poxdrop Bowen on it.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 30, 2023 2:38 pm

Commissioned by nine newspapers aka the Sydney morning vomit and the aged? Zero credibility.

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2023 2:38 pm

I have never quite understood how the bombing or ground campaign assisted the hostages. Seems to me the only way that could be achieved was and is a negotiated swap.

These are not the conditions that led to Israel surrendering over a thousand Palestinian prisoners in exchange for captured IDF soldier, Gilad Shalit.

Everyone must understand that the events of 7 October changed everything for Israel. Understandably, the relatives and loved ones of the current hostages desperately want them saved. But, like others here, I also think that the IDF and senior figures in the government and intelligence services are fairly certain that most, if not all, of the remaining hostages are dead.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 2:39 pm

Saudi is not going to get into a fight with Israel. In fact, when this blows over, the relationship will continue to solidify.

Inside Saudi Arabia’s $3 Trillion Plan to Move Past Oil
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Saudi Arabia has embarked on a grand experiment—a Middle East version of “if you build it, they will come.”

Facing an existential threat to oil, the country’s lifeblood, Saudi Arabia is spending more than $3.2 trillion to transform its economy by 2030. While oil remains essential, the country is trying to fashion itself as a high-tech hub and destination for global business and leisure, preparing for the end of the fossil fuel era.

urking in the background are the combustible politics and instability of the Middle East. The Israel-Hamas war has cast a pall over the region and frozen a much-anticipated peace deal between Riyadh and Jerusalem. Iran and its proxy militias in Lebanon and Yemen—the latter attacking ships in the Red Sea—remain a source of regional conflict.

But the instability doesn’t seem to be affecting Saudi Arabia’s investment outlook or its stock market: An exchange-traded fund tracking the Saudi market is up 11% in the past year, almost doubling the return of emerging markets broadly. More gains could come as the economic transformation takes hold. Non-Saudi companies like Boeing, Oracle, and Hilton Worldwide Holdings could get a boost to sales, along with Wall Street banks trying to tap into the action from a revitalized Saudi Arabia.

Weekend Barron’s

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 2:40 pm

Why on earth would they ask that?

A rather pronounced Australian accent. I’ve been taken for South African more then once, in Europe.

JohnJJJ
JohnJJJ
December 30, 2023 2:41 pm

Just to continue about Ghazza, the Muslim Arab ingrained practice of raiding ( and hostages) as against a standing disciplined army.
Perhaps the misunderstanding is over my use of the word Arab. I use the common meaning of Arab as originating from the Arabian peninsular. Hence tribal. Egyptians are not Arabs. At the stage of the Crusades, Hulagu, Ayn Jalut and Hattin, I am afraid nor were the Northern Syrians, Persians and Kurds. When Mo’s forces spread out they spread the Arab gene, as it were, and tribal culture with them. I would guess there were Arabs in those battles, but my guess is that they were well under the command of the Kurds, Seljuks and Mamalukes and were used for raiding.
But I’d be happy to be proved wrong.
Over all the point I was making is that October 7th is a thousand years old standard Arab practice of raids and hostages. The only solution is – as the Mongols knew – overwhelming force.
“”Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.”
Also T. E Lawrence gives a pretty good description of Arab ‘warfare’.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 30, 2023 2:41 pm

Don’t take it too seriously, Bruce.

Roger – Wong is the scariest politician in Australia. She’s terrifying. Reminds me of a basilis, turn you to cold stone with single a baleful look. About the only scarier female on the planet is Kim Il Fatty’s sister. I’m reasonably sure the two of them would get on like a house on fire, their ideology is pretty damn similar to start with.

Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2023 2:42 pm

I get myself a gig somewhere, whether it’s in a club, whether it’s in a bar, it doesn’t matter, and I just work on New Year’s Eve because I always feel it’s very symbolic for me for the next year, for the new year.

– Debbie Harry

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 30, 2023 2:42 pm

“Basilisk” that should’ve been. A mythical reptile that turns people to stone, except she’s not at all mythical.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 30, 2023 2:43 pm

The reaction against elite consensus politics will just be expressed in a very Australian way.

I hope that’s the case.
Just as long as it’s not ‘yeah, righto, whatev’s‘.

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 2:47 pm

In “the UN is full of hypocrisy” news:

After making representations to the UK Supreme Court in a partially successful effort to thwart government plans to relocate refugees to Rwanda for processing on the grounds that the country was not safe, it has emerged that the UNHCR itself has sent more than 2000 refugees from camps in Libya to the central African country for the same purpose.

Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2023 2:48 pm

Vicki
Dec 30, 2023 2:32 PM
On fox watch again. Droppings show that he is patrolling the chicken run once more, even though we have installed an electric wire at fox nose height.

Get some Alpacas if you have the room. Great for foxing a fox.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 2:57 pm

Noel Pearson breaks silence on Indigenous voice referendum on stage with Stan Grant at Woodford

By paige taylor
Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
2:42PM December 30, 2023
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Noel Pearson, the reforming leader who campaigned for an Indigenous voice for a decade, has broken his three-month long silence on the failed referendum.

In his first public comments since Australians voted against enshrining a national Indigenous advisory body to government in the constitution, one audience member told The Australian that Mr Pearson has lamented that Indigenous affairs are in a worse state than before the October 14 vote.

Another audience member, ex-News Corp and AAP photographer David Kapernick, said on social media that Mr Pearson accused Anthony Albanese of “running away” from indigenous affairs.

“Noel Pearson and Stan Grant at Woodford Folk festival discussing what to do now after referendum. Not impressed with Albanese … says he’s running away and will do nothing,” Mr Kapernick tweeted.

Mr Pearson was in conversation with journalist Stan Grant at Woodford Folk Festival of culture, music and arts north of Brisbane on Saturday.

The Cape York leader made his comments after Anthony Albanese excluded the referendum defeat from his wrap of the events of 2023 then described the referendum defeat as no loss to him.

The Prime Minister’s Christmas Day remark that the voice defeat “wasn’t a loss to me” was met with shock and disgust by some Indigenous proponents of the voice.

At the Exodus Foundation in Sydney’s inner west where he helped serve Christmas Day lunch to the poor, Mr Albanese was asked during a 2GB interview about his year and “some big losses” such as the defeat of the voice at the ballot box last October.

“Oh, no, no, no, no, very important to call that out. I am not Indigenous so it wasn’t a loss to me,” the Labor leader said.

“That stays exactly the same the way it is. I do think that it was disappointing for First Nations people but they’re used to you know, getting the, they’re used to hardship. It’s been the case for 200 years, and they are resilient and we will continue to do what we can to provide for closing the gap.

“But it’s one of the things about this debate, it was never about politicians, it was actually about the most disadvantaged people in our society.”

One figure in the Yes ­campaign criticised Mr Albanese for claiming no sense of personal loss after championing the referendum, ­including in his election-night victory speech in May last year.

Another called on Labor to commission a review of the ­“referendum debacle” and the ­Albanese government’s role in it.

“Blacks did the work for seven years and Labor killed it,” one said.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 30, 2023 3:01 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Dec 30, 2023 2:40 PM
I’ve been taken for South African more then once, in Europe.

I’ve been taken for a South African, in Australia, by Australians. Though this is not common, it does happen.
Been told plenty of times that I’ve a “foreign” accent. Mostly this is by F.o.B. “Australians”.

Mostly by people in metro areas, who’re accustomed to the flat southern accent of newsreaders & on TV, & the low, fast pseudo-New Zealand flat-vowelled accent of the major cities.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 3:03 pm
Jorge
Jorge
December 30, 2023 3:06 pm

If you’re trying to stop thinking about the fall of Rome it may be wise not to click on the following link.

It concerns David Wells, the artist in residence at Footscray Station in Melbourne. He is halfway through a fifteen year contract there. Performs various improv choreographies with a chair and passers by. Inspiration might be flagging judging by some of the pics but chutzpah in abundance. Well, at least it’s not dot paintings.
Link

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 3:06 pm

I have never quite understood how the bombing or ground campaign assisted the hostages. Seems to me the only way that could be achieved was and is a negotiated swap.

I do.

It’s about the enemy. If all they know is brute force, and it’s the only thing they’ll respond to…bring it.

Israel has had how many years of this sh*t? They know the types they are dealing with. The hostage taking has proved to be a bad tactic on the part of Hamas. If they aren’t punished and punished hard, they’ll do it again.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 3:06 pm

Oh God. He’s more useless than a bull tit.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 3:09 pm

“I cannot see any signs of collapse of the military abilities of Hamas nor in their political strength to continue to lead Gaza.”

Really?
When they have abandoned thousands of weapons, had hundreds of their tunnels destroyed, lost control over a large part of Gaza, left intel everywhere, with upwards of 8000 dead, whatever number wounded, and hundreds surrendered?
The only reason they aren’t done is because they still have their human shields, Israeli and Gazan.
90 % of their field victory propaganda is obvious fakery and Sinwar’s claims re Israeli losses are laughable.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 3:09 pm

Giora Eiland, a week after October 7th

In the wake of recent events, Israel cannot be satisfied with any other goal than the elimination of Hamas in Gaza as a military and governing body; Anything less would be an Israeli failure

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sju3uabba

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2023 3:14 pm

Facing an existential threat to oil, the country’s lifeblood, Saudi Arabia is spending more than $3.2 trillion to transform its economy by 2030. While oil remains essential, the country is trying to fashion itself as a high-tech hub and destination for global business and leisure, preparing for the end of the fossil fuel era.

A Singapore of the Middle East? Makes sense.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 3:14 pm

Seems to me the only way that could be achieved was and is a negotiated swap.

Hamas’s strategy in taking so many hostages was to ensure negotiations would never end. Making hostage negotiations the primary aim is allowing Hamas to establish every aspect of the outcome.

You have to simply account for them as dead and anything above that is a gain.

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 3:19 pm

It concerns David Wells, the artist in residence at Footscray Station in Melbourne.

An artist in residence at a railway station on a 15 year contract.

Only in Melbourne.

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 3:21 pm

The grubs have even taken the dead hostage.

Think about that.

No. It isn’t complicated, except for those who are hunting around to excuse the inexcusable.

Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2023 3:21 pm

Islam – The Religion of Peace?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1740459108199784668

Winston Smith
December 30, 2023 3:22 pm

Roger:
The Elsie has landed!
We’re back home.

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2023 3:25 pm

Giora Eiland, a retired major general and former head of Israel’s National Security Council, said Hamas had demonstrated the ability to quickly replace commanders who are killed with others equally capable and equally devoted.

While not doubting Eiland’s fine military record, he has shown more respect for Hamas than most Israelis would, I think. This is from Wikipedia in relation to Hamas before 7 October:

“From a professional point of view, I must give credit to their resilience,” he said. “I cannot see any signs of collapse of the military abilities of Hamas nor in their political strength to continue to lead Gaza.”

Eiland calls for Israel to recognise Hamas as the effective government of the Gaza Strip and cease any attempt to topple Hamas or facilitate restoration of Palestinian Authority rule in Gaza.

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2023 3:28 pm

Eiland calls for Israel to recognise Hamas as the effective government of the Gaza Strip and cease any attempt to topple Hamas or facilitate restoration of Palestinian Authority rule in Gaza.

He got that wrong.

Tom
Tom
December 30, 2023 3:29 pm

The Elsie has landed!

Winston, many thanks for agreeing to look after areff’s feline princess.

I know how much it means to areff, who had decided he wouldn’t be moving overseas if he couldn’t find a good home for Elsie.

You’re a real champ.

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2023 3:36 pm

Get some Alpacas if you have the room. Great for foxing a fox.

JR – as well as disliking Alpacas, They would have to be patrolling within the homestead precincts – and that is a very big “no” as we have extensive grounds surrounding the house.

Cattle don’t particularly like foxes, either. My daughter has a small Japanese Spitz, which looks for all the world like a white fox. Our cows – especially the Angus – chase her if she enters the paddock. Being the city wuss that she is, she runs for cover – with my daughter screaming!

I have also seen the cows chase feral pigs that (rarely) appear on the property in daylight hours. Unfortunately, the pigs do their damage during the night.

bons
bons
December 30, 2023 3:37 pm

So Pearson has learned nothing.

It is encouraging though that he is blame shifting to Albanese. A bit of lefty bone pointing is always entertaining and exposes the morons’ true characters. It would never occur to the clown that accusing the wonderful Australian people of being racists lost the referendum before the campaign even started.

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2023 3:38 pm

Winston – let us have a regular update on how Elsie is settling in. It’s a great story.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 30, 2023 3:38 pm

Perth Trader
Dec 30, 2023 1:36 PM
Its a bloody great day here in the ‘Best’ state in Aust…WEST. AUST.
The Sun is shining , …it’s summer. It’ll get cloudy in six months’ time
shops are full, …of Chinese manufacturing, we don’t make any stuff any more.
real estate is hott …because it’s restricted and regulated into a chokehold
even the middle aged are dressing to show off there new xmas tatts …don’t encourage them. Direct eye contact please
Our state Govt. rewarded us good citizens by getting Cold Play to perform here …Zoomer muzak which the 2million who didn’t go still paid for
and our balance of trade is more in the ‘black’ than a ‘YES’ vote. … I don’t give a rat’s, we don’t make any stuff any more.
God is Great.
Polish that bejewelled codpiece, He will return

Winston Smith
December 30, 2023 3:41 pm

Roger

Dec 30, 2023 11:32 AM
I don’t understand Europeans…
Europeans are a varied lot, but if I may continue with the generalisation…
There’s a lot of self-hatred among the European chattering classes and they’ll generally only admit they were wrong when things have gotten beyond repair.
Much angst now in Sweden over the consequences of an unwise migration policy, for example.

That’s why I have come to the conclusion about lying flat – the average person is refusing to confront the issues and will have to wake up in the gutter covered in bruises and blood before they do anything about it.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 30, 2023 3:43 pm

Currently in Canberra CBD. About 300 pro Palestinian supporters marching around. One minute silent and then chanting things like Ceasefire Now.

I probably missed the chants for Free the hostages now.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 3:43 pm

Eiland calls for Israel to recognise Hamas as the effective government of the Gaza Strip and cease any attempt to topple Hamas or facilitate restoration of Palestinian Authority rule in Gaza.

Excellent call.
Mia Shem is revealing nothing publicly about the hostages she left behind her.
There are some who are apparently Sinwar insurance but as we know Hamas refused another ceasefire offer a few days ago, maybe he is clinging to the hope that Israel will bow to international pressure.

Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2023 3:44 pm

the country is trying to fashion itself as a high-tech hub and destination for global business and leisure, preparing for the end of the fossil fuel era.

The end of the fossil fuel era? With lots of countries having lots and lots of coal for example, I very much doubt that that will happen any time soon.

It’s UN Alarmist and Fantasy Land on steroids.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 3:44 pm

I’ve been taken for a South African, in Australia, by Australians. Though this is not common, it does happen.
Been told plenty of times that I’ve a “foreign” accent. Mostly this is by F.o.B. “Australians”.

Confected like any fraud.

I went through Driller’s syns page on google and looked up unusual syns for blowhard.

“blatherskite” is pretty good. There’s “gascon”, and “bohunk” and “drawcansir”. All syns for blowhard.

bons
bons
December 30, 2023 3:44 pm

Fairfaxe’s ‘most popular pollie’ survey is hilarious. It has a credibility factor equivalent to the ABC’s equally bent ‘Australia Speaks’ fraud.

The positive aspect is that it will well and truely scare the horses.

I could run a survey tomorrow that resulted in Wong being nominated as Australia’s most unpopular pollie. It would be of equal credibility.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 30, 2023 3:45 pm

Damon
Dec 30, 2023 12:32 PM
Vicki, it was obvious from the time that three Wuhan lab technical assistants came down wirh Covid that it was a lab leak. That was in 2010.

—–

Fort Detrick, USA was the origin. The Wuhan story is for MSM consuming sheep.

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 3:47 pm

So Pearson has learned nothing.

Personally, I hope Noel re-dedicates himself to lead the cause “going forward”.

With Marcia in charge of PR.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 3:49 pm

Roger:
I distinctly remember coconut head saying he would never speak again in public if the YES vote didn’t come in.

Nice 180.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 3:51 pm

I made a plum pudding also, my variation of the Margaret Fulton, my Son IL who probably hasn’t had a lot of exposure to plum puddings to be honest said it was the best he’d ever tasted.
I also made, more or less, a Margaret Fulton Christmas cake, well, not really, as I hate royal icing so it’s just a rich fruit cake, fan forced ran a little hot so I felt it was a trifle overcooked but have been giving it little nips of duty free brandy every couple of days the last two weeks.
It’s delicious.
I hate cooking with a passion.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 3:53 pm

Wuhan lab was as plain as the nose on your face from the get go.
We of the cat called it in February/ March 2020.

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 3:53 pm

Nice 180.

A generous fee involved, no doubt.

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 3:54 pm

I hate cooking with a passion.

Cook with apathetic indifference then.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 30, 2023 3:55 pm

rosie
Dec 30, 2023 3:53 PM
Wuhan lab was as plain as the nose on your face from the get go.
We of the cat called it in February/ March 2020.

Wrong.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 3:55 pm

rosie
Dec 30, 2023 3:51 PM

I made a plum pudding also,

Nice. Right now wifey is making a great Italian dessert and my all-time favorite for a special day today. A pavlova. If it ends in a vowel, it has to be Italian, right?

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 3:59 pm

Another indication that hammass isn’t doing so well is the reduction in rockets being fired into Israel, there was a spike post ceasefire, they are now firing them spasmodically from a designated humanitarian zone.
War criminals through and through.

Pogria
Pogria
December 30, 2023 4:00 pm
rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 4:02 pm
Black Ball
Black Ball
December 30, 2023 4:03 pm

Mmmyes cretin alert:

Labor made a lot of promises to the Australian public as it campaigned to win the hearts and return to power after a decade in the political wilderness.

Anthony Albanese sought to characterise his opponent as “all promise and no delivery”. But just over 18 months into the gig, how is he and Labor tracking?

NCA NewsWire undertook a deep dive into some of the election promises Labor made to see just how they’re doing.

Broken promises

Mr Albanese pledged his government would roll out 50 GP-led Urgent Care Clinics to take the pressure off hospital emergency departments.

At the time, Labor said the clinics would be existing GP and community health centres and be open at least 8am to 10pm seven days a week.

Health Minister Mark Butler vowed in April 2022 that all 50 clinics would be up in running in the next financial year.

Some $358m was allocated to the roll out over five years in the federal budget, and an additional eight clinics were added to the target.

While all 58 clinics are now open, the government missed its own self-imposed deadline and hence can be considered a broken promise.

The government says all of the UCC will be open by the end of 2023.

The Pacific Engagement Visa is another example of a missed deadline. At the election, Labor promised to establish a new visa category to allow up to 3000 Pacific Island and Timor-Leste residents to permanently migrate to Australia each year.

It was to begin in July 2023 and visa places would be allocated by a ballot or lottery process.

But the self-imposed time frame came and passed after negotiations stalled with the Senate. It ultimately passed the parliament in October, with the ballot set to commence in 2024.

Another mandate was the requirement to have a registered nurse onside 24/7 which was a key recommendation of the Aged Care Royal Commission.

Labor received some heat earlier in the year after it could not say when its self-imposed deadline of July 1 would be met.

The legislation to enforce the promise passed parliament in October 2022. A recent audit office report found the early implementation of the 24/7 RN and mandatory care minutes was “largely effective”.

As of September, 88 per cent of residential aged care homes reported a registered nurse on duty 24/7, compared with government estimates ranging from 46 per cent to 80 per cent in 2020 to 2022.

Small facilities in rural and remote areas that have struggled to find RN’s have been given exemptions.

In progress or questionable

During the election campaign, Mr Albanese and his frontbench team made a big song and dance about getting real wages moving again.

The government has already claimed a win here, as wages grew by 4 per cent in the 12 months to September, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

But the claim is slightly misleading. It fails to consider the impact of inflation, which continues to outstrip the growth in earnings hitting 5.3 per cent in September, according to seasonally adjusted figures.

It implies a real wages cut of 1.3 per cent, meaning people on average can buy less with their pay packets, despite wages growth hitting a 14-year high.

However, the government did put in a submission to the Fair Work Commission in both 2022 and 2023 backing an increase for the lowest paid workers (even though it didn’t specify a percentage).

Over two years after first promising to criminalise wage theft, the Albanese government flagged its intention to slap employers caught underpaying workers with jail time.

But the legislation is just one thread of the government’s contentious omnibus industrial relations reforms, the Closing Loopholes Bill.

Other parts of the bill include a crackdown on labour hire, introducing minimum pay and conditions for gig economy workers and an enhanced pathway to permanency for casual workers.

Failing to secure support from the Coalition means the government will have to convince the Greens and two crossbenchers to come on board to vote for the bill in the Senate.

That’s while also fighting a battle to convince business groups to support it.

So far the bill has been delayed for consideration until February 2024 when a senate committee hands back its report into the proposal.

Housing was also a key pillar of the government’s election strategy.

In Mr Albanese’s 2021 budget reply speech, he announced Labor, if elected, would establish a $10bn off budget fund to build 30,000 social and affordable homes over five years.

The bill finally passed the parliament in September after being twice held up after the Greens agreed to vote for it in favour of securing an extra $3bn for public and community housing.

The promise will be considered in progress until it meets its own benchmarks of houses built.

Mr Albanese waited to unveil his Help to Buy scheme until Labor’s official campaign launch last year.

The policy, he said, would provide help to Australians on low and middle incomes to buy houses by giving eligible applicants a commonwealth equity contribution of up to 40 per cent of the purchase price of a new home, or 30 per cent for an existing home.

It was set to cost $329m and would be introduced alongside the continuation of the first home guarantee scheme.

It wasn’t until Labor’s National Conference in August that the Prime Minister confirmed it would come into effect during 2024.

But given state and federal legislation is needed to enact the scheme and a Greens party that has vowed to use the proposal to push for more action for renters to convince, there is still work to do.

On the environment, the government succeeded in its promise to legislate Australia’s commitment to net zero emissions by 2050, as well as its 2030 goal of 43 per cent reduction.

But whether we will meet that target is up in the air.

The annual climate change statement presented in Parliament in late November suggested Australia will be on track to cut greenhouse emissions by 42 per cent below 2005 levels by 2030 – a whisker behind the official target.

Labor has long been committed to the three components of the Uluru Statement of the Heart: Voice, Treaty and Truth.

But after the failure of the Voice referendum in October the fate of its promised Makaratta Commission is uncertain.

Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney has said the government did not want to be rushed into a decision.

The government’s first budget set aside $5.8m to start setting up a commission to oversee treaty-making and truth-telling. Only $607,000 of that funding has been spent, according to officials.

Labor went to the election with a number of promises around aged care. Most broadly, it said it would “raise the standard of aged care” by mandating an average of 215 minutes of care per day, as per the royal commission.

Aged Care Minister Anika Wells signed the mandatory minimum, which must also include 44 minutes of care from a registered nurse from October 2024, into law in October.

This promise will be considered delivered should providers meet the benchmark by the 2024 deadline.

If you’ve watched question time in the past year, you will be no stranger to the Coalition’s ribbing over a promise to cut power bills by $275.

The opposition has repeatedly claimed the government has not delivered on its promise. But the pledge was made as part of Labor’s Powering Australia policy.

Labor said the plan, which was independently modelled by RepuTex, would cut power bills and reduce emissions by boosting renewable energy

But the $275 would not come into play until 2025: “It will cut power bills for families and businesses by $275 a year for homes by 2025, compared to today.”

Another promise which will surely cause the government a headache over the next year will be to not tinker with the contentious stage three tax cuts.

The tax cuts passed parliament back in 2019 but won’t come into effect until July 1.

There’s more but whatever Albo sez, take it to the bank nothing will happen.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 4:04 pm

That’s how I mostly do it Roger.
It’s just another chore.

Bill P
Bill P
December 30, 2023 4:05 pm

Australia’s most popular politicians – ranked
Dr F, I noticed Blackout Bowen was missing.
It must be that his rating is off the negative scale.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 4:06 pm

Is it your happy birthday JC?

areff
areff
December 30, 2023 4:06 pm

Who wouldn’t want to work for the BoM? You get it horribly, horribly wrong and the minister leaps up to say it’s climate change that makes predicting this afternoon’s weather so bloody difficult:

Mr Watt said climate change is having an impact on the weather and the science being used to predict and alert people.

“The models we have traditionally used are having to change because the climate is changing,” he said.

“This is something I know the bureau is working hard on but unfortunately the reality is climate change means we will live through more unpredictable weather.”

From the AAP wire so no link

Pogria
Pogria
December 30, 2023 4:07 pm
Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2023 4:08 pm

Fort Detrick, USA was the origin. The Wuhan story is for MSM consuming sheep.

I guess you agree with the the theory of Kathrine Watt that US Defence was involved in the development of bioweapons & that this was coordinated with research of the Sth Carolina University & Peter Daznak’s EcoHealth Alliance together with the team at Wuhan lab. All of this was, according to the theory, known & countenanced by Anthony Fauci.

https://bailiwicknewsarchives.files.wordpress.com/2023/06/2023.04.12-trialsite-interview-transcript-re-truncale-order-jackson-case.pdf

This is all one step too far for me, although there are very well qualified people in this country (in the medical research field) who think it is true.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 4:10 pm

Areff, how long are you going for?

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 30, 2023 4:14 pm

While all 58 clinics are now open

Over half of those are not open for the hours the govt promised.

88 per cent of residential aged care homes reported a registered nurse on duty 24/7,

Quite a few have closed down as there is no way they can get enough nurses.

The government has already claimed a win here, as wages grew by 4 per cent in

Mine haven’t

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 4:16 pm

When we lived in the US and had people over, Wifey would frequently make a pav for dessert, generally in the summer, out of the city. Americans absolutely loved it. Second helpings were frequent, and she was always asked for the recipe. A couple of years ago, I saw pav as a dessert choice on a restaurant menu.

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 4:19 pm

Pav tomorrow night when four more family members arrive. All we girls can make one standing on our heads. Number one daughter made a double decker for Christmas day. Pavlova sandwich!

It was one of Dad’s favourites too, I made mini ones for the funeral morning tea. No point in eating “miserable” food.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 4:20 pm
calli
calli
December 30, 2023 4:22 pm

She made the one with the Cream of Tartaria* – to make it last and stand up under pressure.

* sorry Steve. I couldn’t get it out of my head once she told me the Secret Knowledge! 😀

Winston Smith
December 30, 2023 4:24 pm

It’s not that lonely these days on my side of the fence as the Islam clue bat is used freely.
This was all obvious 20 years ago. All it took was a look at history, and a willingness to extrapolate past trends.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2023 4:26 pm

Crossie
Dec 30, 2023 11:28 AM
Barbara Slowik, Berlin’s police chief, said the policing operation on New Year’s Eve would be the “largest for decades”. She added that she expected the Israel-Gaza war to worsen tensions.

The solution is starkly simple: deportations of all those found to have taken part in the attacks. There’s no need to waste taxpayer funds on extensive legal procedures.

Amend the law to include exile as a penalty applicable to non-citizens or dual-citizens.

areff
areff
December 30, 2023 4:26 pm

JC: I’ll be gone until March 2025, so plenty of chance to catch up — ideally at Bobby Van’s steakhouse — when I’m in the NE, Manhattan in particular.

Most of the time I’ll be on the road — first stop, all going well, the Iowa caucuses Jan 15.

Lee
Lee
December 30, 2023 4:28 pm

Pogria
Dec 30, 2023 4:07 PM

Spelling is so underrated these days. ?

They can smell a guy’s bowels?!

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 4:31 pm

So you want to live in Florida and buy a home. It’s not all pavlova with a passion fruit topping.

Florida’s dysfunctional homeowners insurance market is getting a bit more orderly after several years of skyrocketing premiums. But Floridians waiting for price relief shouldn’t hold their breath.

Improvements will take time to work their way through the insurance ecosystem, and many of the challenges besetting Florida haven’t gone away.
Hurricane-damaged home in Florida.

“We are beginning to see some positive signs of availability of coverage, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that affordability will improve in the near term,” says Tim Zawacki, a principal research analyst for S&P Global Market Intelligence.

More affordable insurance can’t come soon enough for Florida’s beleaguered homeowners. The average homeowners insurance premium in Florida hit $6,000 this year. That’s more than triple the national average, according to the Insurance Information Institute. Premiums can be much higher in some coastal counties, especially for properties near the water.

More troubling, national insurance carriers, such as Farmers and AAA, have been cutting their presence in Florida or leaving the state altogether. They typically cite challenging market conditions.

“You go down to Florida and the first thing everyone wants to talk about is the price and difficulty of obtaining insurance,” Zawacki says.

Insurers’ expenses have soared in Florida because of costly litigation, a booming population, increased development in coastal areas which are prone to hurricane damage, rising construction costs, and climate change, according to industry experts and analysts. The Census Bureau’s latest estimate puts Florida’s population at 22.6 million, up from 18.8 million in 2010.

Here’s the problem with the “average premium” of $6,000. If you want to live in Florida, you do not want to be anywhere further than 1 mile from the Atlantic shoreline, because the summer is just unbearable. The combined heat and humidity would resemble Mud Island at its worst.

Inside the one-mile boundary, the insurance premium would burst out, making the average premium look like toy money.

Barron’s

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 4:32 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 30, 2023 4:33 pm

calli
Dec 30, 2023 4:22 PM
She made the one with the Cream of Tartaria* – to make it last and stand up under pressure.

* sorry Steve. I couldn’t get it out of my head once she told me the Secret Knowledge! ?

Tartaria was real.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 4:34 pm
JC
JC
December 30, 2023 4:34 pm

I’m jealous, Areff, although January starts to get cold. 🙂

Most of the time I’ll be on the road — first stop, all going well, the Iowa caucuses Jan 15.

On the road as in driving there from the east coast?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 30, 2023 4:34 pm

They can smell a guy’s bowels?!

Well, if they like the smell of a man’s Cologne, they should be understanding if a guy likes staring at a woman’s Brest.

PeterM
PeterM
December 30, 2023 4:36 pm

Lee: cologne

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2023 4:38 pm

“NSW’s greatest opportunity likely rests with the export of molecules via green hydrogen and derivatives … The substantial wind resources off the Hunter and the Illawarra coast could provide the necessary feedstock of a molecule export industry”.

Ignorant bullsh1t. All exports are comprised of various “molecules”. To which specific “molecules” is the ignorant, moronic, cretinous, idiot referring?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 30, 2023 4:40 pm

Don’t know how prevalent Crohn’s disease among men, but I know they often have to have surgery so they only have a ;.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 4:40 pm

What is wring with people?
for Sydneysiders

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 4:45 pm

NationalWABanksia Hill

Judge refuses to send 17-year-old to ‘horrendous’ Perth prison
Emma Young
By Emma Young
December 30, 2023 — 7.16am

Listen to this article
6 min

A 17-year-old Perth boy has been released from custody for Christmas despite a serious crime spree, as the judge did not trust Perth’s “barbaric dungeon where children are deprived and dehumanised” to rehabilitate him.

The boy, who has anxiety, PTSD, FASD, ADHD, and substantially affected executive function and memory, has been in and out of Banksia Hill youth prison for the past two years.

2:08

He had spent Christmas 2021 and 2022 in prison, with lengthy stints in the Unit 18 wing of the adult Casuarina Prison, which has controversially been serving as an ad-hoc yet endless extension to Banksia Hill.

The boy faced serious charges accumulated over this time including 14 of stealing motor vehicles, 17 aggravated burglaries, two high-speed chases, and two of assaulting prison guards inside Banksia Hill (punching one and spitting at another). He pleaded guilty to all charges.

On December 20 Perth Children’s Court president Hylton Quail sentenced the youth to a 10-month conditional release order.

He will live with his mother and his four younger siblings, soon to be five, in a recently acquired state housing property, with a 7pm to 7am curfew unless he is with his mother.

He has also been disqualified from holding or obtaining a driver’s licence for four cumulative nine-month periods.

Judge Quail said this offending would ordinarily have got a three-year sentence, backdated for time already served, but this was not appropriate now.
The boy’s incarceration

Judge Quail said he was not sending the youth back to prison “because of the continuing failure of the Department [of Justice] to comply with the law” regarding holding youths in solitary confinement in Unit 18.

He said it seemed inevitable the boy would be sent back to this unit and this would only increase his danger to the community.

“With boys as cognitively impaired, traumatised and damaged as [this], there will be setbacks in custody and in the community,” he said.

“The answer is not to further brutalise and alienate them, but to follow the model of care that the Department claims to be implementing but in Unit 18 is clearly not.

“That Unit 18 continues as a barbaric dungeon where children are deprived and dehumanised is a disgrace, and something as a community we should all be ashamed of.”

He said the boy had had a “horrendous experience” and “endured unlawful solitary confinement” in punishment cells for long periods – one stint of 70 days, one of eight days, one of 12 days, one of six days, many of these representing more than 22 hours a day in a cell.

He said these periods were “cruel and harsh conditions which were arbitrary and unlawfully punitive” and it was “frankly shocking” one of these periods was in the month immediately following a tragic death in the unit, in which the boy faced 23 days of 20 to 23-hour lockdowns in his cell in November leading into December 2023.

Judge Quail said deteriorating behaviour in prison in those conditions was “all but inevitable given his cognitive impairments”.

“Solitary confinement … is very damaging for a boy like [this] with his impairments, history of trauma and diagnoses,” he said.

“I’m not surprised now that [he] did not perform upon his release into the community.”

He said the government’s management of this boy was a “total failure” and represented “continuing unlawful and repeated conduct … bypassing the provisions of the Young Offenders Act in terms of dealing with behavioural matters.”
The boy’s past

His parents separated when he was five. His father, who has spent long stints in prison and is currently in prison, subjected him, his mother and his brother to verbal and physical violence.

Concerns were also raised about neglect, sexual abuse and emotional abuse. Several care placements traumatised him by separating him from his mother.

A report noted “early attachment disruption, transient itinerant living situations, exposure to parental drug and alcohol misuse, normalisation of criminal behaviour, domestic disturbances and interpersonal conflict from a very early age.”

An official report into his offending noticed it “tended to be impulsive, opportunistic and lacked planning. There was an increasing and regular access to drugs and negative peers.” It further noted “a high need for acceptance by his peers, which was felt to be a perpetuating factor in [his] risk-taking and criminal behaviours.”
The boy’s future

The judge noted the boy had prospects of connection to a local football team as he was a “pretty handy footballer”, to a job ready program, and to a landscaping and property maintenance course. He had a white card and barista skills and should be able to function well in society if properly supported.

He did not have an intellectual disability, despite his cognitive problems, and was a “smart boy”.

“There is some glimmer of hope in the community,” he said.

When the boy was able to attend school at Banksia Hill, his teacher had described him as receptive, motivated, hardworking, polite, respectful and positive.

Judge Quail questioned the boy’s mother on her plans.

“He’s not innocent … but I would love to have him home. And we would put in place – NDIS has been put in place,” she said.

She promised the judge his old friends didn’t know where they now lived, that she would do her utmost to prevent him seeing them, and would ring the police if he disobeyed.

“I’m scared if I let you out, you’re going to go and do more burglaries, steal a motor vehicle and kill somebody on the road,” the judge said to the young man in court.

“I want to change my life … I keep thinking of time inside. I don’t want to be in – I’m going to turn 18 next year. I don’t want to follow in my Dad’s footsteps,” the boy replied.

Lee
Lee
December 30, 2023 4:46 pm

Well, if they like the smell of a man’s Cologne, they should be understanding if a guy likes staring at a woman’s Brest.

ML and PeterM; I never would have guessed that they meant “cologne,” not “colon.”

The words are obviously not even pronounced the same.

Lee
Lee
December 30, 2023 4:49 pm

rosie
Dec 30, 2023 4:40 PM

What is wring with people?
for Sydneysiders

Hopefully the vile Nazi POS goes out of business and has to live on the streets.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2023 4:50 pm

rosie

The inhumane treatment of the hostages is mind boggling. None of the progressive pallimuppets would treat a house mouse the way gazans have treated the hostages.

And remember that the most vociferous claimants that there were no rapes on 7 October essentially come from the same political side that (despite the absence of any physical or other evidence) that Mizzz Knickerless was definitely waped in Parliament House.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 4:54 pm

Hey Turtlehead, question.

Have you stocked up enough on Bol sauce until March 2025 or are you making a new batch?

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 4:54 pm

Tartaria was real.

The pavs taste better! 😀

On Tartaria…the idea is alluring, like so many of these web rabbit holes. For me, it just doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

Neo classical architecture is lovely, but it isn’t magical. It’s just a hat tip to the past, built with a mixture of old and new materials.

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2023 4:55 pm

There are some pretty repulsive pollimuppetts out there but Watt is a stand out. I’ve never heard the thing’s voice either seeing I don’t watch TV. Seems being an entitled, useless, obnoxious mediocrity is an occupational requirement for entry into Australian politics these days.

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 4:59 pm

Rosie
Dec 30, 2023 4:40 PM
What is wring with people?
for Sydneysiders

Barzaari, Marrickville.

I hope the turd goes bankrupt. He deserves to.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 30, 2023 5:01 pm

I never would have guessed that they meant “cologne,” not “colon.”

I had assumed you got it.

That was why I thought to take it one step further to suggest these women were living the smell of a man’s European city.

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2023 5:02 pm

rosie
Dec 30, 2023 4:40 PM
What is wring with people?
for Sydneysiders

Another genocidal Jew hating Nazi. Another uber very white progressive leftist “someone” who has probably spent the good part of the last decade smearing all conservatives as “Nazis”. But as I said this morning, we now know who the true Nazis area, the scab has well and truly fallen off! By the way, the restaurant this piece of human garbage called “Darryl Martin” (not a very Palestinian or middle eastern name) runs is located in Marrickville. Marrickville is smack bang in the middle of Albo land. Albo land encompasses Marrickville, Newtown, Stanmore, Alexandria and others. I also call it Greenland. Without a doubt Sleazy’s electorate will fall to the Greens once he’s gone. But “Darryl” is exactly the kind of person Sleazy cares about, Darryl is a Sleazy acolyte.

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 5:02 pm

Sorry. Lee got there first.

Mr Tatts would be quite content to see my little grandies suffer, because reasons.

The POS would have to go through me and the Beloved first.

Why isn’t ASIO looking at this extremist? That’s what they’re there for after all.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 5:06 pm

Another hot, dry summer day in Victoria with the temp hitting another all-time record of 18 C

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2023 5:07 pm

Eiland calls for Israel to recognise Hamas as the effective government of the Gaza Strip and cease any attempt to topple Hamas or facilitate restoration of Palestinian Authority rule in Gaza.

NO. That would be akin to appointing Ivan Milat to administer the Belanglo State Forest.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
December 30, 2023 5:14 pm

But they’re HOT degrees, JC. Not like your colder degrees.

Like the 18 C we get in, say, early Spring/late Winter.

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2023 5:15 pm

On 7 October 2023, Southern Israel was invaded by hundreds of Ivan Milats.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
December 30, 2023 5:18 pm

Also, JC… that’s not your wet wet. It’s dry wet.

Insidious. Confuses the plants.

Crossie
Crossie
December 30, 2023 5:18 pm

Roger
Dec 30, 2023 1:31 PM
Hairy has been pressing Tolstoy’s War and Peace on me ever since we met. I’m still resisting, can’t say why really. Except it’s not a speedy read.
I read it one summer holiday when I was c. 20.
Almost couldn’t put it down.

I read War and Peace when I was home after my first baby was born. It took me three months to finish it and almost that long to read the whole Bible. I set myself these two to read before going back to work.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 5:20 pm

LOL Mark

Crossie
Crossie
December 30, 2023 5:22 pm

Johnny Rotten
Dec 30, 2023 1:50 PM
My take on the Referendum result, unfortunately, is that Australian politicians believe they can, to a very substantial extent, obfuscate and safely ignore the substance of popular will.

And totally ignore the Australian Constitution that Australia as a Nation is founded upon. What utter Crooks.

It’s not as bad as it looks, they can’t ignore the constitution no matter how hard they try, they cannot enshrine their imaginings in the constitution. A future government can undo their efforts with a vote in parliament.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 30, 2023 5:29 pm

I’ve read about ten percent of War and Peace. I gave up because it was boring. Nearly all of it was about the social lives of a bunch of empty-headed nongs who had nothing interesting in their dreary lives.

Winston Smith
December 30, 2023 5:30 pm

Boambee John:

“NSW’s greatest opportunity likely rests with the export of molecules via green hydrogen and derivatives … The substantial wind resources off the Hunter and the Illawarra coast could provide the necessary feedstock of a molecule export industry”.

He sounds like a Cultist desperately trying to convince others that the cordial is just …cordial…

Crossie
Crossie
December 30, 2023 5:32 pm

Australia’s most popular politicians – ranked
From popular….
Penny Wong +14
Jacqui Lambie +10
Jacinta Nampijinpa Price +6

To unpopular…
Peter Dutton -12
Pauline Hanson -25
Barnaby Joyce -27
Scott Morrison -35

Source: Resolve Political Monitor poll commissioned for Nine newspapers

Not surprising at all seeing as who commissioned the poll. What else can you expect from ex-Fairfax press?

Winston Smith
December 30, 2023 5:36 pm

JC

Dec 30, 2023 4:54 PM
Hey Turtlehead, question.
Have you stocked up enough on Bol sauce until March 2025 or are you making a new batch?

How about you just piss off, and hand that Juvenile humour back to Sanchez?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 30, 2023 5:38 pm

JC Dec 30, 2023 4:54 PM
Hey Turtlehead, question.
Have you stocked up enough on Bol sauce until March 2025 or are you making a new batch?

How did you know I make the stuff? I don’t advertise & don’t need new customers, I sell all I can make.
I make plenty, how much do you want?
Upon receipt of cleared funds* your order will be dispatched.

(* coz you’ve a record of disappearing when it comes time to get the chequebook out)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 5:39 pm

I’ve read about ten percent of War and Peace

I’ve read all of “War and Peace.” It’s about Russia.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 30, 2023 5:39 pm

How about you just piss off, and hand that Juvenile humour back to Sanchez?

We’re beginning to form an impression of the sort of “idea” that the “IQ of a jet pilot” is put up for “discussion” on this melting pot blog site. 🙂

Pogria
Pogria
December 30, 2023 5:41 pm

Why isn’t ASIO looking at this extremist? That’s what they’re there for after all.

Calli, all of us here could get the ball rolling. If the wankers at ASIO receive enough complaints, tipoff’s etc, they HAVE to have a word with him. It would be enough to make him shit, anyway.

Members of the public who have an issue or concern relevant to ASIO can call the Central Office switchboard on 1800 020 648 (toll free).

To be directed to your relevant state, call 13ASIO (13-27-46).

Written enquiries can be directed to: ASIO Central Office GPO Box 2176 CANBERRA ACT 2601

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 5:41 pm

Turts

I know you’re most likely stewing over the comment I made about the bol sauce, and you are also likely to respond in about 6 hours or so, which is about how long it takes for you to boil over (pun, see bol sauce).

Save yourself the time, as it’s just joshing around. It’s actually a very kind thing you’ve done for Areff, and it should be recognized as such. While offering you a compliment that hopefully puts you in a more relaxed mood, is there a chance you can turn down the hyper-ball a touch?

Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2023 5:41 pm

Special Prosecutor Jack Smith is Destroying the United States

“I have previously warned that this hatred of Donald Trump is absolutely destroying our nation. Special counsel Jack Smith disclosed in court filings that he retrieved data from former President Donald Trump‘s smartphone and intends to use it in the trial. This is just astonishing. Smith has revealed that he extracted data from Trump‘s smartphone, showing he has no regard for the established precedent of Presidential Immunity in such aspects. This has crossed the Rubicon. Burning Down the Barn 1Smith has obliterated executive privilege, establishing a precedent that will have an unimaginable chilling effect on future administrations.

Nobody will be willing to provide any candid advice to the President from here on out. Whatever they recommend will now be open to the world, jeopardizing national security. I find it unbelievable that this guy goes after Trump for having classified documents and has reviewed them himself when the whole argument is that unauthorized people could have gotten a hold of them. This sets a very highly destructive precedent for the presidency. This means all private communications between Biden and all his family members can be seized and made public.

This seriously undermines the president’s ability to get his constitutionally protected, confidential, and candid advice from his advisers that threatens National Security. Smith has trashed the very idea of presidential immunity all for allegedly interfering in the 2020 election and inciting the Capitol riot. Smith is destroying the very foundation of the United States, all for his personal vengeance to prevent Trump from ever becoming president. This is the same guy who wanted a gag order on Trump so that he could not “criticize” Biden when he was running against him. Smith is burning down the barn to get Trump as President Herbert Hoover wrote in his memoirs:”

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https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/special-prosecutor-jack-smith-is-destroying-the-united-states/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2023 5:42 pm

Winston

He sounds like a Cultist desperately trying to convince others that the cordial is just …cordial…

“Relax. All those people writhing on the ground are just doing their yoga exercises. Now, drink up.”

billie
December 30, 2023 5:43 pm

Christmas Bon Bons – a bit late, but whatever

We found a new brand, tired of the old simple ones and the new ones that don’t go bang at all.

Mistletoe and Merry brand, Crackertoa type, out of South Africa – they make many types, but the Cracketoa have a popper in them that explodes confetti everywhere .. just awesome seeing the joy on people’s faces!

Everyone went from neutral to full enthusiasm at the first one going off, and they have a joke hat and a horn .. so the noise can continue.

I feel so sorry for young folks who never knew cracker night ..

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 5:45 pm

Turts

I was about 6 hours out. I was posting that comment without seeing the Hans Blix style angry letter.

But really, it was very kind.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 5:46 pm

Barzaari, Marrickville.

I hope the turd goes bankrupt. He deserves to

Put a yellow star on his shop and see if the window gets broken.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 5:47 pm

Driller

Another pointless comment.

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 5:50 pm

Thanks, billie. Bookmarked.

The kids used to do the grog bon bons. But these look like more fun.

cohenite
December 30, 2023 5:50 pm

Pogria
Dec 30, 2023 4:00 PM
Wow! Almost makes me wish I was a bloke so I could ask her out.

She missed the last target!

Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2023 5:51 pm

How about you just piss off, and hand that Juvenile humour back to Sanchez?

And what was that comment the other night all about when Junior said that this Blog was for comments to be challenged, or something like that. But when challenged resorts to “Argy Bargy” and obtuse abuse.

FFS. What a Mafioso Bully Boy hypocrite.

And as for Mrs Stencho Pantyhose, that one is still doing the A-licking Big Time.

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 5:51 pm

So you’re saying it’s not about these hostages?

Who are “these”?

I’m talking about the ones taken from southern Israel.

And I have broken a personal rule, since you are my host and this is your house.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 5:53 pm

Woddenhead, yesterday you commented by saying this

this Blog being a place where stuff could be contested – or words to that effect.

Contest this, you slimeball limey.

1. Do you believe Marty had a sentient, fully operational AI since 1985?

2. Do you believe Marty stole or didn’t steal client money and that he was a patsy of the big bad banks (we don’t know the motivation other than the fraud’s claim he was)? Yes or no?
3. Do you believe the fan boy mail is written by Marty or legit customers (of the fraudulent dickwad)?
4. Do you believe Marty’s AI predicted the exact date of the October 1987 crash, as he claims?
5. Do you believe Marty’s AI predicted the exact date of 911, as he claims?

These are the contestable points that you ought to explain, possibly when you’re sober.

I’d also like to add this 6th question.

6. Marty at one time claimed to be using an IBM supercomputer to run his sentient AI. However, it was shown that this particular system was only available to the US government then and never to the public. Can you explain this anomaly?

We’re still waiting for a response if you’re not “busy”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2023 5:54 pm

rosie

Dec 30, 2023 3:51 PM

I made a plum pudding also, my variation of the Margaret Fulton, my Son IL who probably hasn’t had a lot of exposure to plum puddings to be honest said it was the best he’d ever tasted.

God, I hate plum pudding.
Even more than pavalova.
Every year I get the job of “just cut me a sliver please” out of a steaming mass of dried fruit and glug.
FMD, if youse all want “just a sliver” why the f-ck do you make something twice the size of a basketball which is impossible to cut.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 5:56 pm

It’s pretty obvious the 8K killed is a gross exaggeration and the level of control the IDF have in the areas it occupies is precarious.

How is it obvious?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 30, 2023 6:01 pm

ALP wisdom is that she’s [kd wrong] in the senate because she could never win a seat in the Reps.

Wouldn’t be the first. More than a few careers on the public tit have come unstuck trying to parachute into the HoR. Most recently Nobody’s Girl.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 6:02 pm

God, I hate plum pudding.
Even more than pavalova.

Have you gone mad? Pudding with cream topping? Pav with passionfruit? There’s nothing better in this world.

Winston Smith
December 30, 2023 6:03 pm

For whoever asked, ASIO contacted and link sent about the Hate Speech from the Barzarrio ? Cafe.
Fvck ’em.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 30, 2023 6:04 pm

From ZK2A report up fred…

Perth Children’s Court president Hylton Quail

How TF can anyone with a name like that be taken seriously!

It’s car is next.

Winston Smith
December 30, 2023 6:05 pm

JC
Dec 30, 2023 5:41 PM

Turts
I know you’re most likely stewing over the comment I made about the bol sauce, and you are also likely to respond in about 6 hours or so, which is about how long it takes for you to boil over (pun, see bol sauce).
Save yourself the time, as it’s just joshing around. It’s actually a very kind thing you’ve done for Areff, and it should be recognized as such. While offering you a compliment that hopefully puts you in a more relaxed mood, is there a chance you can turn down the hyper-ball a touch?

No, not funny.
It’s that nasty, bitchy part of your persona that you try to hide from the Kittehs, except every now and then it comes out.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 30, 2023 6:06 pm

Perth Children’s Court president Hylton Quail

All failed incompetent lawyers end up on the bench.

Tom
Tom
December 30, 2023 6:08 pm

On 7 October 2023, Southern Israel was invaded by hundreds of Ivan Milats.

Tens of thousands of Milats — supported by hundreds of thousands of civilian Milats barracking for the mass murder of Jews.

Virtually none of the “Palestinians” being imported by the Australian Labor government believes Israel should be allowed to exist.

That is, 99%+ of “Palestinian” Arabs being imported by Australia are terrorist sympathisers who will be a major security challenge for ASIO.

Except ASIO is led by a Labor lackey who thinks ASIO’s job is to “monitor the situation” long after our new Man Monises carry out a new terrorist attack.

Winston Smith
December 30, 2023 6:09 pm

JC
Dec 9, 2023 7:51 PM

Can you put a picture up?
Is Elsie a long or short hair?*
Is she a housecat or like wandering over a backyard?

He’ll add it to the bolognese mix.

The first 3 lines are mine.
The last is JC’s.
Nasty little bitch that he is.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 6:10 pm

No, not funny.
It’s that nasty, bitchy part of your persona that you try to hide from the Kittehs, except every now and then it comes out.

Okay, have it your way and it’s not funny. It was meant get a rise, which it did.

The compliment was with good intentions and the hope you turn down the hyper ball. 🙂

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 6:10 pm

Sure but your answer seemed to suggest that the lesson was applicable only to future hostage taking not to those currently held.

Why not? Isn’t that what any “lesson” is about?

Bart and the cupcake? Don’t piddle on the electric fence? Don’t bomb the tripe out of a naval base just because you can?

Haven’t any of these numpties learned anything from home, school or history?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 30, 2023 6:11 pm

I’ve read all of “War and Peace.” It’s about Russia.

And it took you fifteen minutes, right?

That’s a steal from Woody Allan.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 30, 2023 6:11 pm

Allen.

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