Open Thread – Wed 17 Jan 2024


The Gloomy Day (January), Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1565

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Cassie of Sydney
January 17, 2024 10:23 am

Shalom.

Damon
Damon
January 17, 2024 10:28 am

“we were effected”

affected

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 17, 2024 10:29 am

The lass who sang the National Anthem sang it well, supported by a couple of kiddies.

Coulda picked a better frock though.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 17, 2024 10:30 am

Good to see the Cat back. Was getting withdrawal symptoms.

Roger
Roger
January 17, 2024 10:32 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 17, 2024 10:34 am
Tom
Tom
January 17, 2024 10:34 am

Microsoft has changed the way it stores URLs, which are now listed by their headline summary instead of the embedded HTML. That means the cartoon URLs I stored early this morning now take me on a wild goose chase that has nothing to do with the original image.

The MS nerds were bored so they went looking for something to stuff up.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 17, 2024 10:35 am

One of the best channels on the internet.

Speedbox
January 17, 2024 10:45 am

Woohoo. Top 20. First time for ages.

Megan
Megan
January 17, 2024 10:56 am

Still made it into the first 18. No bench warming for me.

Megan
Megan
January 17, 2024 10:59 am

And the blog picture of the thread is an accurate depiction of Melbourne this morning. The global boiling is relentless here in the sunny south.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 17, 2024 10:59 am

My knowledge and interest in weather is usually based on looking out the window in the morning.

However I have a technical question.

Does global boiling cause sea ice. ?!

I am a bit concerned after seeing comments by those well known weather experts known as the Teals.

Pogria
Pogria
January 17, 2024 11:02 am

Something to cheer us on this new day. 😀

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 17, 2024 11:03 am

What?
Iran attacks Pakistan

Almost certainly a response to that double bombing of the Soleimani memorial service. I mentioned at the time the Baluchis might be responsible, these strikes appear to confirm that.

The Pakis regularly get bombed by the Baluchis too. Such a peaceful religion.

Tom
Tom
January 17, 2024 11:08 am

Bugger. Today’s cartoons accidentally posted on the old Monday fred.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2024 11:09 am

A note on what happened overnight. The MySQL server that hosts the database was down, so it wasn’t specifically site related but we were effected nevertheless

Socrates has a lot to answer for.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 17, 2024 11:10 am

Tom’s toons have appeared at the end of the old OT.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 17, 2024 11:14 am

Cameron Green is badass Gully fielder.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
January 17, 2024 11:14 am

Welcome back Cats. What have u missed? Labor continues to tank the economy, the energy grid, business, jobs, Israel and Australia Day. So business as usual for our Canberra Warriors.

Megan
Megan
January 17, 2024 11:14 am

Bugger. Today’s cartoons accidentally posted on the old Monday fred.

Never mind, Tom. That’s an easy find. We appreciate your consistent commitment to making us laugh when there often isn’t much too laugh about.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 17, 2024 11:26 am

The AFR View

Green defenders overreach themselves in the Tiwi Islands

In a pushback against environmental lawfare, a Federal Court judge has seen through attempts by activist expert witnesses to manipulate spiritual beliefs and push their own agenda.

Gas has become so demonised that Santos may well have figured that trying to develop the $5.8 billion Barossa gas field to help Australia remain a reliable energy exporter to Asia was simply too fraught in the face of the sort of dishonest green activism now exposed by Federal Court judge Natalie Charlesworth.

Her judgment follows Justice Mordy Bromberg’s eyebrow-raising 2022 ruling that Santos had not consulted widely enough on the nearby Tiwi Islanders’ sacred and cultural interests when it began drilling the Barossa gas field, considerably raising the bar on project approvals.

In the most climate litigious country in the world, Santos has been separately targeted by the Australasian Centre for Corporate Responsibility for supposed “greenwashing”. And, with honourable exceptions, federal and state Labor governments have embarked on a passive-aggressive undermining of what should be a critical transition fuel to a net zero carbon economy.

But Santos’ persistence has revealed the egregious breach of trust by the taxpayer-funded Environmental Defenders Office and its expert witnesses in manipulating the spiritual beliefs of Tiwi Islanders to serve their own agenda of stopping the pipeline Santos is building from the gas field into Darwin.

Instead of gathering evidence from the islanders as objective scientists, Justice Charlesworth found the EDO’s expert witnesses had coached and misled islander witnesses to block the project and prove their own pet theories about ancient heritage.

Their effort to keep the pipeline out might look the opposite of Jukkan Gorge, where a well-established spiritual site was wilfully demolished by an uncaring resources giant to make way for an extended iron ore mine.

But there is overreach by arrogant outsiders in both cases.

The deception of the Tiwi Islanders was reprehensible in itself.

But, as the energy switch goes on, there will be genuine clashes between nature, heritage and energy projects which serious experts must resolve for an optimum outcome.

Credible and trusted institutions are needed to do that.

The publicly funded EDO has done a huge disservice to that idea and to other Indigenous causes.

The objections included that the pipeline would cut across the path of the Rainbow Serpent Ampiji and the Crocodile Man Jirakupai, both spirit creators of the Tiwi Islands, bringing sickness and disaster.

The court found too little agreement among islanders to make it part of Tiwi culture, rather than just the view of some Tiwi individuals

Misleading maps

But it wasn’t the Tiwi Islanders that perplexed Justice Charlesworth. She found that expert witnesses hired by the EDO had taken Ice Age maps of the area and superimposed colour-coded modern land masses and the sites of cultural beliefs on them, telling local witnesses this showed the islands and the coastal places in the songlines as they existed 40,000 to 50,000 years ago.

The maps were then used to coach the answers they wanted from islander witnesses on their ancient significance. The problem was that the coastlines did not exist at that time. The Tiwi Islands, and the important places in the Ampaji and Jirukupai beliefs, were created only when the ice caps melted tens of thousands of years later.

The key expert witness, Dr Michael O’Leary, then speculated that maybe the events had taken place in some “deep time” instead before the Tiwi creation narrative. At that point, the judge had heard enough.

“The acrobatics concerning the Crocodile Man story are suggestive of an expert who is seeking to present a case that he perceives might assist the opposition from stopping the pipeline, rather than present a case founded in scientific evidence and careful analysis,” she wrote. He did not lie to the court, she said, but he lied to the islanders.

Santos has resuming work on the pipeline, which will top up depleting reserves for LNG export production. That’s vital work to maintain Australian market share in this lower-emissions transition fuel to replace coal-fired power in Asia.

Tragically, the deception also undermines the spirit of reconciliation and the Voice.

The objections of the 60 per cent of Australians who voted against embedding a Voice in the nation’s Constitution included the fear that white activists would hijack the concept and use it to push their own barrows.

On the Tiwi islands, that seems to be exactly what happened.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 17, 2024 11:27 am

So business as usual for our Canberra Warriors.

Canberra is about to get a big frikken laser.

Japanese startup plans to vaporize space junk using ground lasers (16 Jan)

In October, EX-Fusion signed a memorandum of understanding with EOS Space Systems, an Australian contractor with technology for detecting space debris. EX-Fusion has announced its plans to install a powerful laser system at the EOS Space Observatory near Canberra.

Hopefully it only points upwards, so the operators can’t ever fall to an irresistible urge to vaporize a certain large white building on a hill.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 17, 2024 11:28 am

“we were effected”

affected

The error effected by Dover’s efferent nerves was an affront to your eyes’ afferent nerves.

But bless him – Dover is not arrantly errant.

Beertruk
January 17, 2024 11:30 am

Noice…the Wong Chap cops a spray:

Today’s Tele:
A PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS: WONG HECKLED

COURTNEY GOULD
17 Jan 2024

Foreign Minister Penny Wong has waved off a heckler at her local shopping centre who filmed the senator and called her a “disgrace’’.

The encounter with Senator Wong — who is currently in the Middle East in a bid to urge a ceasefire in Gaza — occurred at a South Australia shopping centre last week as she ducked into a supermarket to buy laundry detergent. Walking out of the store at the Goolwa Village Shopping Centre carrying a bottle of Earth’s choice laundry liquid, an unidentified shopper in the seaside holiday area took aim at the casually dressed senator.

“Not a good job Penny,” he can be heard yelling in footage since posted to social media.

“Not a good job mate. You, Albo, (Finance Minister) Katy Gallagher (you’ve) all gotta go.

“You’re a disgrace.”

Senator Wong gave the heckler a tight smile as she waved him off and continued about her day.

Meanwhile, the shoppers around them paid no notice to the fracas.

Senator Wong topped the list as Australia’s most trusted politician for the second year in a row, according to a Roy Morgan poll released in December.

She also topped a Resolve poll as the most popular pollie in 2023. But frustration over the rising costof-living – from increasing prices at the checkout and mortgage payments – is starting to bite.

A poll published by the Daily Telegraph on Sunday found just over half of all voters surveyed believe the country is headed in the wrong direction.

And 80 per cent of respondants said the Albanese government has failed to address the cost-of-living issue.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 17, 2024 11:30 am

Her judgment follows Justice Mordy Bromberg’s eyebrow-raising 2022 ruling that Santos had not consulted widely enough on the nearby Tiwi Islanders’ sacred and cultural interests …

Ah yes, I think I can see the problem.

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 17, 2024 11:31 am

The global boiling is relentless here in the sunny south.

Whatever happened to “We’re all gonna fry!” ?

Boiling is a big step down from frying

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 17, 2024 11:31 am

Trump Won the Only Real Ticket Out of Iowa

Donald Trump’s two surviving rivals for the Republican presidential nomination had distinct strategies going into the first actual competition in the 2024 race, the Iowa Caucuses.

Ron DeSantis was going to run to Trump’s right and peel off MAGA voters (particularly evangelicals) as a more effective and consistent champion of their various causes.

And Nikki Haley was going to scoop up anti-Trump, Trump-skeptic, and electability-mad voters and roll out of Iowa and into New Hampshire with a head of steam as the only real challenger left in the race.

Neither strategy worked out.

Donald Trump won half the Caucus vote against DeSantis, Haley, Vivek Ramaswamy, and some other random names.

He carried 98 of Iowa’s 99 counties, and led in urban, suburban, and rural areas.

According to entrance polls, he trounced DeSantis among self-described “very conservative” voters by a 60 percent to 28 percent margin, and beat the Floridian among evangelical voters by a 51 percent to 29 percent margin.

But Trump also beat Haley among college-educated voters and independents.

He carried every age category.

Trump showed no real weaknesses.

His roughly 30-point margin of victory was well over double the all-time record in contested Iowa Republican Caucus history, even though he may have suffered from turnout lowered by brutally cold weather and the lack of doubt about who was going to finish first (as opposed to second and third, which was indeed a close competition as predicted).

He was outspent by both Team Haley ($37 million) and Team DeSantis ($35 million) in Iowa campaign advertising (Trump and his allies spent $18 million).

None of it really mattered.

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2024 11:33 am

Vivek publicly endorses Trump.

Kum bye yah.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 17, 2024 11:34 am

To my knowledge Julie was never heckled at the Boatshed while Foreign Minister.

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2024 11:36 am

Sandboxx on the fake hypersonic missiles that the Pick Up Artist formerly known as Gonzalo Peso died for:

Even China is laughing at the Kinzahls.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 17, 2024 11:36 am

Art dealer told Congress that Joe Biden called and met him while he sold Hunter Biden’s paintings

George Berges also says first son made unusual request to know the identity of buyers, undercutting White House’s narrative.

The art dealer who sold Hunter Biden’s paintings told Congress that President Joe Biden both called and met him at the White House as he was pitching Hunter’s artwork and that the first son also made an unusual request to be informed about who bought his pieces, according to testimony that directly undercuts the White House narrative on the sales.

The Biden White House repeatedly told the public that Hunter Biden’s art sales were covered by an ethics agreement to ensure they were arms-length and that the first family — Hunter included — was blinded to the identity of buyers.

But George Berges, owner of the prestigious Berges art galleries based in New York and Berlin that sold Hunter Biden’s painting from 2020 to 2023, told congressional impeachment investigators that the first son likely knew the identity of 70% of the buyers – the largest who were Democrat donors – and that Hunter Biden’s first contract made an unusual request when the relationship started.

“I believe in the first contract, he was—he was able to know who the buyers were,” Berges told investigators for the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees in a transcribed interview last week that was reviewed by Just the News. “…I don’t know how it was phrased or—but I remember that there—that that was the difference.”

“Is that normal or unusual, or where’s that? Is it a normal kind of contract?” Berges was asked.

“That part was different. Normally, the gallerist does not let the artist know who the collectors are,” the art dealer answered.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 17, 2024 11:46 am

Daily Mail reports on a whinge by the Mansell Corporation (Tasmanian Aboriginals R Us) because the Tassie Parliament flew the Danish flag for Meg’s marriage.

Meanwhile the daily Hobart Mercury doesn’t.

Maybe Da Voice result is having a better result than first thought…

(Who cares what the ABC reported….)

calli
calli
January 17, 2024 11:48 am

the first son

Chuckle.

The Cain of the Whitehouse.

cohenite
January 17, 2024 11:49 am

OldOzzie
Jan 17, 2024 11:26 AM
The AFR View

Green defenders overreach themselves in the Tiwi Islands

Has anyone got a link to the Judgment?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 17, 2024 11:51 am

If you’ve got a couple of Hitler watercolours why wouldn’t you want a Biden? Especially if you were looking for a defence contract.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 17, 2024 11:54 am

Windies 3,4,5,6 batsmen have a combined 3 tests of experience.

Good on them though. Unlike more talented West Indians who prefer playing T20 shite. Diamond ear rings and what not.

Real cricketers play test cricket.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 17, 2024 11:55 am

Senator Wong topped the list as Australia’s most trusted politician for the second year in a row, according to a Roy Morgan poll released in December.

That really should have alerted Roy Morgan that their polling method has problems.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 17, 2024 11:57 am

On Tuesday afternoon, about 80 staff members demanded a meeting with Anderson, who is currently on leave. They threatened to stage a walkout if their concerns over the situation were not met, the Media Entertainment and Arts Alliance confirmed.

In a properly run organisation – assuming that Lattouf was correctly terminated with natural justice etc etc etc – having 80 staff (out of 4,000) turn up with pitchforks, demanding the MD reverses the decision, or else, would receive this response: This organisation is not a democracy and you cannot threaten its operation because of your personal preferences and remain employed here. Choose. By cob tomorrow.

Lysander
Lysander
January 17, 2024 11:58 am

Sorry if already posted:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12969105/chinese-scientists-lab-coronavirus-kill-rate-mice.html

Chinese scientists ‘create’ a mutant coronavirus strain that attacks the BRAIN and has a 100% kill rate in mice – as they admit there’s a ‘risk it spills over to humans’

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
January 17, 2024 12:00 pm

Do any other West. Aussies notice that Andrew Forrest is anti Santos ?….is it because it will affect his green hydrogen hub?

Lysander
Lysander
January 17, 2024 12:00 pm

Iran attacks Pakistan

“Evil devours itself”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 17, 2024 12:04 pm

cohenite
Jan 17, 2024 11:49 AM

OldOzzie
Jan 17, 2024 11:26 AM
The AFR View

Green defenders overreach themselves in the Tiwi Islands

Has anyone got a link to the Judgment?

cohenite,

could not find it anywhere on Federal Court Site

Bards’ Response to Q – Justice Natalie Charlesworth judgement Tiwi Islands vs Santos pdf

A –

Unfortunately, the full judgment of Justice Natalie Charlesworth in the case of Tiwi Islands vs Santos is not publicly available as a PDF document. However, you can access information about the judgment through various channels:

Media Coverage:

The Sydney Morning Herald: https://newstral.com/en/article/en/1248358211/federal-court-rejects-indigenous-heritage-claim-against-santos-gas-pipeline

ABC News: https://www.afr.com/companies/energy/federal-court-halts-construction-of-pipeline-to-5-8b-barossa-gas-site-20231101-p5egnm

AFR: https://www.afr.com/companies/energy/federal-court-halts-construction-of-pipeline-to-5-8b-barossa-gas-site-20231101-p5egnm

Legal Publications:

LexisNexis: If you have access to a LexisNexis subscription, you may be able to find the full judgment there.

Austlii: Austlii hosts judgments from various Australian courts, but it’s currently unclear if this specific case is available.

Court Website:

Federal Court of Australia: The Federal Court website may host summaries or press releases about the judgment, but not necessarily the full text.

Law firms involved:

EDO NT: The Environmental Defenders Office Northern Territory represented the Tiwi Islands in this case. They may have published resources or summaries of the judgment on their website.

Gilbert + Tobin: While they represented Santos, they may not share private client information like judgments publicly.

While accessing the full PDF might be challenging, the resources listed above should provide you with insights into the judgment and its key points.

It’s worth noting that Justice Charlesworth’s decision has garnered significant media attention due to its implications for Indigenous cultural heritage protection and environmental litigation.

The case highlighted the difficulty of navigating evidence and interpretation of cultural concerns in the context of resource development projects.

I hope this information helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.

amortiser
amortiser
January 17, 2024 12:09 pm

Instead of gathering evidence from the islanders as objective scientists, Justice Charlesworth found the EDO’s expert witnesses had coached and misled islander witnesses to block the project and prove their own pet theories about ancient heritage.

So here we have a government entity engaged in deliberately misleading a court according to the judge.

Giving false evidence to a court is a serious offence. It’s called perjury if I recall correctly. I know that the judge is not impressed with these actions but this deserves more action than a verbal lashing.

These clowns should be charged and jailed for their actions and the company targeted should be appropriately compensated preferably from the pockets of the miscreants.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 17, 2024 12:09 pm

[Wong] also topped a Resolve poll as the most popular pollie in 2023. But frustration over the rising costof-living – from increasing prices at the checkout and mortgage payments – is starting to bite.
So, the Kitching tragedy, the Lehrmann hit job, getting shafted up the back entrance By China after bleeding out another coupla million to the Pacific Islander money pit at APEC, then a pointless Beijing genuflection tour, and an upcoming emotion tour of OccUpiED PaLEsTiNE has nothing to do with it, it’s just groceries and rent eh?
Righto, MSM. Seens the work experience kids are doing an AI- sorry, that’s a-1- job over the summer.
Wong, like Turnbull, possesses that weird glamour where she is allowed to lecture us without interruption from the servile media throng. We need more Ulhmann men.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 17, 2024 12:17 pm

‘Startling admission’ sees Santos win Federal Court suit, as judge rules environmentalists lied to Tiwi Islanders

Environmentalists lied to traditional owners from the Tiwi Islands and distorted and manipulated their instructions as they tried to stop a gas pipeline from being built north of Darwin, a Federal Court judge has found.

Matt Cunningham – Northern Australia Correspondent

A Federal Court judge has found environmentalists lied to traditional owners from the Tiwi Islands, and distorted and manipulated their instructions, as they tried to stop a gas pipeline from being built north of Darwin.

Justice Natalie Charlesworth delivered a scathing rebuke of lawyers from the Environmental Defenders Office and an expert witness, Dr Mick O’Leary, as she rejected an application to halt the pipeline being built by Santos to extract gas from its Barossa field.

Dr O’Leary had conducted a “cultural mapping” exercise for Tiwi Islands traditional owners who had fought to stop the pipeline, arguing it would destroy their cultural heritage, including the dreaming stories of the Crocodile Man and the Rainbow Serpent, known as Ampiji.

In her judgement, Justice Charlesworth recounts how Dr O’Leary had explained to Tiwi Islanders at a workshop that he had helped traditional owners from Arnhem Land stop a Woodside development by identifying a kangaroo dreaming story linked to land proposed for the project.

Under cross-examination Dr O’Leary admitted the words he used about the kangaroo dreaming story were not true.

“He said it had nothing to do with stopping Woodside,” Justice Charlesworth wrote in her judgement.

“He said he now regretted saying the words because they were incorrect.

“That is a startling admission.

Not only is it damaging to Dr O’Leary’s credit, it causes me to doubt his understanding of the obligations of an expert to remain impartial.”

Justice Charlesworth said it could only be inferred that Dr O’Leary had made the untrue statement at the beginning of the workshop with the Tiwi Islanders to “coach the attendees … so as to achieve their objective of stopping the pipeline”.

“Dr O’Leary’s admission was freely volunteered, such that he did not lie to the Court,” Justice Charlesworth wrote.

“But he did lie to the Tiwi Islanders, and I find that he did so because he wanted his ‘cultural mapping’ exercise to be used in a way that would stop the pipeline.

“It is conduct far flung from proper scientific method, and falls short of an expert’s obligation to the Court.”

Justice Charlesworth also raises concerns that Dr O’Leary and an unnamed lawyer from the Environmental Defenders Office, manipulated and distorted information given to them during the workshop.

She drew this conclusion from watching videos – most notably one referred to in the court as “Video 39” – of the workshop where she said the EDO lawyer could be seen “drawing on the map in a way that could not on any reasonable view truthfully reflect what the Tiwi informant had said”.

“The material supports an inference that Indigenous instructions have been distorted and manipulated before being presented to this Court via an expert report, and I so find,” Justice Charlesworth wrote.

“The EDO lawyer was not called to give evidence.

That does not preclude the Court from acting on the evidence before it, given that the applicants’ onus includes an onus to persuade the Court that the cultural mapping exercise is scientifically sound and otherwise reliable.

“The content of Video 39 alone is sufficient to reduce the integrity and hence the reliability of the cultural mapping exercise to nought.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 17, 2024 12:18 pm

We need more Ulhmann men.

Not to be confused with O’Rielly men.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zyuS8GcENfQ

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 17, 2024 12:25 pm

Chanticleer

Markets are all-in on rate cuts. Did this man just spoil the party?

Confidence in easing was extraordinarily high among investors, but Tuesday night’s comments from Fed governor Christopher Waller showed even the slightest hint of doubt can rattle them.

You can only laugh at the irony. It took a speech with the phrase “almost as good as it gets” in the title to force investors, strategists and economists to reconsider whether the consensus belief that the Federal Reserve will cut rates in March – and keep cutting them through the rest of 2024 – may need a rethink.

Federal governor Christopher Waller used his speech to The Brookings Institution in Washington on Tuesday night to push back on the market’s apparent certainty that the Fed will cut in March and deliver six cuts across the course of the year.

He agreed rates were likely to come down as inflation fades further.

But he suggested the Fed’s projections for three rate cuts this year was more appropriate and there was no hurry.

“When the time is right to begin lowering rates, I believe it can and should be lowered methodically and carefully,” Waller said.

He added that, in previous cycles, the Fed had cut rates “reactively and did so quickly and often by large amounts.

This cycle, however … I see no reason to move as quickly or cut as rapidly as in the past.”

The market’s probability of a March cut sank to 65 per cent from 80 per cent, as bond yields jumped back above 4 per cent and equities fell again, continuing an indifferent start to the year.

To be clear, there was little surprising about the content of Waller’s speech.

It was essentially a restatement of the Fed’s long-expressed view that it would be data-dependent as it assesses its next rate move, and wants to be certain inflation has been tamed before acting.

Could have an outsized impact

But context matters here. The belief in the Fed’s pivot to cuts is so strong that Waller’s words could have an outsized impact.

The 16 per cent jump in the S&P 500 since the end of October, and the 10 per cent jump in the ASX 200 over the same period, is the best evidence of the rate cut consensus that has built among investors.

But Tuesday night brought another data point from Bank of America’s latest fund manager survey, which showed a record 91 per cent of institutional investors expect short-term rates to fall in the next 12 months, and 79 per cent expect either a soft landing or “no” landing.

To further emphasise why Waller’s comments matter so much right now, the survey also showed an outright majority of fundies surveyed (52 per cent) believe the Fed is going to be the biggest driver of equity prices in the year ahead.

If a Fed official so much as scratches their nose in the next few months, strategists and economists are going to be conducting a full analysis.

Will the wobble last?

Will the Waller Wobble have any lasting effects? Frankly, this column doubts it, given the mix of confidence and complacency evident in markets right now. Investors are all-in on rate cuts, and have tended to shrug off previous attempts by Fed officials to temper expectations.

But it was notable that Waller’s comments gave some market watchers pause.

Goldman Sachs, which reported full-year results on Tuesday night showing a 16 per cent fall in investment banking revenue as high rates weigh on deal-making activity, suggested the risk to its call for rate cuts to start in March may have risen.

“We have not made any changes to our baseline forecast that the FOMC [Federal Open Market Committee] will deliver a series of three consecutive cuts in March, May, and June before slowing to a quarterly pace … However, we see Waller’s comments as increasing the risk that the first cut could come somewhat later or that the FOMC might prefer to cut once per quarter from the outset.”

Another fascinating question raised by Waller’s intervention is just how far the Fed will cut from the current level of 5.25 per cent.

That is, are we really going back to a period of easy money, where the Fed funds rate is 2 per cent of lower?

Or, as Howard Marks has suggested, could rates settle at between 3 per cent and 4 per cent, reflecting the ideas that inflation will tend to be relatively higher in the next 10 years, and central banks will want to give themselves room to support economies with rate cuts where it is required?

The Waller Wobble might be a short-run thing.

But volatility as the world scrambles to interpret every utterance from the Fed won’t go away.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 17, 2024 12:27 pm

Do any other West. Aussies notice that Andrew Forrest is anti Santos ?….is it because it will affect his green hydrogen hub?

Hydrogen hub.
Bzzzz.

Green hydrogen hub.
Bzzzz. Bzzzzzz!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 17, 2024 12:28 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 17, 2024 12:28 pm

Even China is laughing at the Kinzahls.

Yes.

China “Mocks” Russia’s Hypersonic Missile! Analyst Calls It ‘Outdated Cold-War Tech That Fails To Impress’ (16 Jan)

Which isn’t to say they are ineffective, since they are. But the hypersonic hype has been a bit over the top.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 17, 2024 12:28 pm

A Federal Court judge has found environmentalists lied to traditional owners from the Tiwi Islands, and distorted and manipulated their instructions, as they tried to stop a gas pipeline from being built north of Darwin.

The only surprise is that a Federal Court judge didn’t side with the environmentalists. Good on her for having regard for truth.

The ‘expert’ had no moral sense whatever. He got the satisfaction of social approval from his clique as a poor substitute.

mizaris
mizaris
January 17, 2024 12:32 pm

Do any other West. Aussies notice that Andrew Forrest is anti Santos ?….is it because it will affect his green hydrogen hub?

And anti-Woodside. Seeing a pattern??

And completely unhinged. No wonder his wife left.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2024 12:36 pm

On Tuesday afternoon, about 80 staff members demanded a meeting with Anderson, who is currently on leave. They threatened to stage a walkout if their concerns over the situation were not met, the Media Entertainment and Arts Alliance confirmed.

Note that the weasel word reporting says it was “confirmed” by the union, when it clearly isn’t sanctioned union action.
The response to the walk out threat should be “Do it! It is not protected action and you will have been deemed to have abandoned your employment if you take part”.
Of course, that won’t happen.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 17, 2024 12:38 pm

ABC Stop Work Meeting……

Don’t they do that every day by just turning up? Or turning on their (our) computers?

Roger
Roger
January 17, 2024 12:38 pm

The ‘expert’ had no moral sense whatever. He got the satisfaction of social approval from his clique as a poor substitute.

And a pay cheque courtesy Wallet Wizard Jim.*

* h/t calli

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2024 12:38 pm

Interesting about rates. We might get cuts since the new governor has signalled tolerance of higher inflation.

Don’t bet on it though, we’re in massive amounts of debt.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2024 12:39 pm

Old Ozzie at 12:28.
Again, the tweet says “Union members call upon yada yada”.
That is like me and a mate wanting the date of the Melbourne Test match changed and reporting it as “MCC members call for…” implying it has MCC support.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 17, 2024 12:41 pm

Another nickel mob gone tits up in WA, down near Ravensthorpe.

Scary bit is, its the mob I was trying to get a job with.
Would have been stuck with no job and a house to pay off.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-15/ravensthorpe-nickel-mine-to-cut-30-per-cent-of-workforce-as-mini/103322050

Roger
Roger
January 17, 2024 12:41 pm

So, not only does Penny Wong get a photo op with displaced Gazans – pace Albanese who advised us she wasn’t there for such a purpose (but it’ll play well in western Sydney) – to add insult to injury she hands over $21million to the UNRWA.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 17, 2024 12:48 pm

to add insult to injury she hands over $21million to the UNRWA.

Which means to hamarse. Which will also go down well in some constituencies.

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
January 17, 2024 12:55 pm

Did someone ask for this?

Munkara v Santos NA Barossa Pty Ltd (No 3) [2024] FCA 9 (15 January 2024)

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/FCA/2024/9.html

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 17, 2024 12:58 pm

PS Why Bard is Better than ChatGPT-4

Q – Justice Natalie Charlesworth judgement Tiwi Islands vs Santos pdf

A – ChatGPT

I’m sorry, but I don’t have the ability to browse the internet or access specific files, including legal documents. If you’re looking for a specific judgment or document, I recommend checking official legal databases, court websites, or contacting relevant legal authorities. They should be able to provide you with the information you’re looking for.

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2024 12:59 pm

Gold doin’ fine. 🙂

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2024 1:01 pm

Gold is almost never better in AUD.

Soon we’ll be having golden showers.

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2024 1:03 pm

Trump
Vivek
Lane
Paul
Tucker

MAGA has a good chance of succeeding as a decadal project.

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2024 1:04 pm

Anyone remember the German post WWI cartoon?

Tensions rise, goldbugs cheer!

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 17, 2024 1:06 pm

amortiser Jan 17, 2024 12:09 PM

Instead of gathering evidence from the islanders as objective scientists, Justice Charlesworth found the EDO’s expert witnesses had coached and misled islander witnesses to block the project and prove their own pet theories about ancient heritage.

So here we have a government entity engaged in deliberately misleading a court according to the judge.

Despite the name, the Environmental Defender’s Office is not a government entity.

It is a “non-profit” activist collective, presenting itself as having credibility, official imprimatur, and implying it is some sort of statutory authority.
It is funded in part (a large part) by the government.
It is very similar to those turds at Animals Australia, except with more government funding.

They’re a more intelligent version of those idiots who glue their bottom to the road or invade feedlots. That’s all.

Their office is often in the same building as various “stop oil” “stop coal” type weirdos.

We should be lobbying the government to stop funding them.

Just as Tony Abbott cut off the funding to Animals Australia (after the Gillard-Four-corners live export fiasco) so too should Dutton, when elected, use this “witness coaching” as the catalyst for cutting off the funds to these EDO turds.

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2024 1:08 pm

Anyone who downticks a golden showers joke is either a person with standards or no sense of humour.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2024 1:09 pm

BoM magnificence, presented in predicted rain vs actual rain doe D-Town in recent times:

Sunday – Predicted 150mm, actual 27mm
Monday – Predicted 110mm, actual 11mm
Tuesday – Predicted 120mm, actual 14 mm
Today – Predicted 70mm, so far 0mm.

Worth every single taxpayer cent.

Roger
Roger
January 17, 2024 1:10 pm

It is a “non-profit” activist collective…

Correct…government funded $9m+ in the 2022 budget.

The rest of their budget seems to come from activist multi-millionaires.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 17, 2024 1:11 pm

Munkara v Santos NA Barossa Pty Ltd (No 3) [2024] FCA 9 (15 January 2024)

Interesting. What it shows is that the law legitimises as grounds for stopping a project, any loony superstition that a sufficient number of ignorant savages happen to share.

All they have to show is that a large enough group really believe that the rainbow serpent or the crocodile man will be pissed off by something, then the something has to stop. They don’t have to show the rainbow serpent or the crocodile man actually exist, only that a sufficient number of people believe they do.

Talk about the feelz.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 17, 2024 1:11 pm

The key expert witness, Dr Michael O’Leary, then speculated that maybe the events had taken place in some “deep time” instead before the Tiwi creation narrative. At that point, the judge had heard enough.

Crisp, clear, minimal bullshit tolerance justice.

Not wanted here however:

Greens Resources spokesperson Senator Dorinda Cox told AAP that, while the court’s decision was very disappointing for traditional owners, it gave the government an opportunity to properly engage with her private senator’s bill regarding protection of sea country.

“We need to ensure that traditional owners and knowledge holders have the opportunity to be genuinely consulted,” she said.

“That’s non-existent under the current legislation, and it leaves the door open for anyone who wants to dispute the credibility of information.”

Like inconvenient gubba judges.

Shirley Uncle Luigi can reach across the aisle and make it so…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 17, 2024 1:12 pm

“The situation on the Korean Peninsula is more dangerous than it has been at any time since early June 1950.

The Norks just sold a million rounds of artillery ammunition to the Russians. I doubt they’re going to do anything anytime soon. You need to have ammo if you’re going to start a war.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2024 1:15 pm

*rain doe*

It’s a real thing. Look it up.

Roger
Roger
January 17, 2024 1:20 pm

The Norks just sold a million rounds of artillery ammunition to the Russians.

I was going to say…

I hope Kim’s ordered a stock take of the arsenal.

Or perhaps not.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 17, 2024 1:33 pm

Excellent work Slim C @12:55PM

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
January 17, 2024 1:35 pm

Why arent ABC employees allowed to stare out the office windows in the morning?

Cos, otherwise they will have nothing to do in the afternoon.

?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
January 17, 2024 1:36 pm

? Was meant to be a wink emoji.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2024 1:37 pm

OldOzzie

Jan 17, 2024 12:17 PM

‘Startling admission’ sees Santos win Federal Court suit, as judge rules environmentalists lied to Tiwi Islanders

Environmentalists lied to traditional owners from the Tiwi Islands and distorted and manipulated their instructions as they tried to stop a gas pipeline from being built north of Darwin, a Federal Court judge has found.

In many respects this is a good judgement, but it should go further.
This was a malicious action supported by confected stories which were admitted in court by the grifter “expert witness” and facilitated by the EDO (funded by the taxpayer).
What about charges of perjury and contempt or, at the very least, award of costs?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 17, 2024 1:42 pm

Interesting. What it shows is that the law legitimises as grounds for stopping a project, any loony superstition that a sufficient number of ignorant savages happen to share.

It actually doesn’t work quite that way. Usually it’s done on ‘cultural grounds’ where a dreaming story forms part of an arguably accepted culture. No need to prove actual ‘belief’ in whatever folkloric being is being offended – and so it doesn’t matter how improbable or whimsical the story.

Perhaps worse, it doesn’t matter how many people can be lined up to form a legally significant pool of cultural adherents with a consistent understanding of the story. The sacred mysteries of initiation and ‘knowledge holding’ and ‘business’ take care of that – at least in the negotiation stages with big men, where propitious munni offerings have the biggest pull.

Chris
Chris
January 17, 2024 1:47 pm

thefrollickingmole
Jan 17, 2024 12:41 PM
Another nickel mob gone tits up in WA, down near Ravensthorpe.

Scary bit is, its the mob I was trying to get a job with.
Would have been stuck with no job and a house to pay off.

Colleague asked me ‘How are you feeling today? Redundant?

I replied that was a ‘redundant remark’.

Fortunately I have my house mostly paid off, and its not in Ravensthorpe. Still, it usually takes eight or so months to get a new job and I will have to find a way to get by, however long it takes.

Zippster
Zippster
January 17, 2024 1:49 pm
Dot
Dot
January 17, 2024 1:49 pm

I’m still shocked by how many people on Reddit are transgendered or think communism is the panacea we need.

This is why it will never be profitable. It has a core user base that is a fringe minority and have not much purchasing power. Frustrated teens and welfare hogs.

The right thing to do is when all debate bros eventually block or report me for being a “Nazi” is to delete my account.

All right thinking people should. It needs to die along with Canva, Atlassian, etc.

Vicki
January 17, 2024 1:50 pm

So, not only does Penny Wong get a photo op with displaced Gazans – pace Albanese who advised us she wasn’t there for such a purpose (but it’ll play well in western Sydney) – to add insult to injury she hands over $21million to the UNRWA.

There is some long term benefit – at least for our long suffering electorate. This extraordinary vicious turning away from the evils of Hamas actions of October 7 will not go unnoticed by Australians. Maybe I am naive, but I think the majority of voters are still able to distinguish decency from identity politics.

The muzzies are clustered in a few electorates only, but I think the decent majority – at least those over 30 years of age – will turn against the government over this issue. It just adds to the list.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 17, 2024 1:53 pm

Fair Shake @ 1.36, don’t get your “i’s” and “a’s” mixed up.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 17, 2024 1:55 pm

It looks like Disney will not be doing a second season of She Hulk – the first season of which was a feminist wet dream where all the women are stronger than men but, at the same time, always their victims.

I just hope and pray Amazon feels enough of a pinch to recognise that a second season of Rings of Power will flop like the first and makes them look bad.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 17, 2024 1:56 pm

Having said, we’re at that rare alignment of the planets where she’s had a birthday and has snuck ahead to a racy eight years older… it’s too hot for any shenanigans though.

lol, Wally. There is a brief period each year when Hairy and I can count only nine years between us rather than ten. Forty or more years together and here we still are, shenanigans and all.

Congratulations to you and Chris and any other Cat who has encountered the charms of a lady a little older than yourselves. You marry people because you love them, not because of their age. We have found the ten years quite handleable; comparable in health still (I’m actually better), intellect still functioning for us both, doting grandparents, and we are totally companionable but have a separation of interests. I don’t like sport and he won’t watch ballet. We hug frequently in the kitchen as we share daily tasks there. He still calls me his babygirl. He’s my gorgeous boy. Except when we aren’t, but we fight less these days. Wisdom of age kicks in. lol. 🙂

Rosie
Rosie
January 17, 2024 1:59 pm

Saudi Arabia Secretary of State: “We will recognize Israel under a full normalization.”

Also, reports today claimed the Arab world has no interest in rebuilding Gaza, just for it to be destroyed again a year from now. Everyone understands Hamas needs to be eliminated completely

here

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
January 17, 2024 2:05 pm

Fair Shake @ 1.36, don’t get your “i’s” and “a’s” mixed up.

LOL.

A bit of ‘self time’ can be medicinal. However careful you do not build a career can of it, Albo style.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 17, 2024 2:09 pm

It must be said. My ‘gorgeous boy’ is totally different to China’s ‘handsome boy’. That is an insult, whereas mine is a term of affection and praise. As is ‘Hairy’, which he was when we met in rock-star territory, although the years have made the appelation a memory more than a reality today. He did a few years ago have a hairy-chest competition with Perfesser Sinclair at some function, professorial top buttons undone at two paces when both were tipsy, and very amusing it was too. I think it was a draw.

Chris
Chris
January 17, 2024 2:09 pm

Just visiting news.com.au, and read the article about the tennis.

Divisive Australian figure Margaret Court is set to end her four-year Australian Open exile and return to Melbourne Park.

Honestly, they chose a picture of Margaret Court that looks like a tyrannosaurus.

Vicki
January 17, 2024 2:10 pm

Dr Gennadi Glinsky, a retired professor of medicine at Stanford, said on social media: ‘This madness must be stopped before [it is] too late.’

This is re the Daily Mail article on the latest gain-of-function experiment by the Chinese on bat viruses – this time creating a virus that will likely produce a 100% mortality rate when contracted by humans.

I read about this yesterday when Australian pharmacologist Dr. Phillip Altman posted an enraged account on his Substack.

It seems that, other than dispense with Dr. Shengli, the Chinese are continuing with their dangerous research. It should be front of centre for global alarm. But there are too many crises now to deal with. Staggering.

Rosie
Rosie
January 17, 2024 2:13 pm

In other words, as of now, no chance of Abraham-style Accords with the Saudis

We’ll see what happens.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2024 2:13 pm

a second season of Rings of Power

I have not viewed this televisual feast. However, I will assume it is some form of homosexual arrangement.

will flop like the first

PHRASING.

Amyl nitrite to the set, please. Amyl nitrite to the set.

Vicki
January 17, 2024 2:15 pm

Foreign Minister HH Prince @FaisalbinFarhan: “We agree that regional peace includes peace for Israel, but that can only happen through peace for the Palestinians, through a Palestinian state.”

In other words, as of now, no chance of Abraham-style Accords with the Saudis.

Dover, if the purpose of the horrific attack on October 7 was to sabotage the continued negotiations surrounding the Abraham Accords – it has certainly worked.

Rosie
Rosie
January 17, 2024 2:16 pm

“In a Shin Bet investigation, they discovered the head’s location in Gaza. The Gazans tried to sell the head for 10,000 dollars. the head was found in an ice cream fridge.”

Hamas should definitely be included in any future Palestinian government.

disgraceful

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 17, 2024 2:18 pm

Chris, sorry to hear about your job falling through due to ups and downs in the nickel mining industry. In the 70’s I had the good fortune to be taken down the ‘decline’ in the Nickel mine at Leonora in WA, during a boom period. Even then it was a boom and bust scenario. Leonora was a total company town back then, but I believe it has changed a lot since. I was housed in the singles quarters, along with a female nurse and a female secretary, and a heard a lot of hair-raising stories from the blokes there at that time.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 17, 2024 2:20 pm

BOM furiously beating a possible Coral Sea Cyclone.

US agencies not interested yet, no invest(igation area) yet.

GFS model have it tracking east for a few days then being boomeranged back at the CQ coast. ECMWF drifting east before the run ends.

Other ingredients have 2 areas in Coral Sea that could forment. One is the one the BOM are fulminating about and has some ingredients to spin up as well as the benefit of the Monsoon and another area further out near new Caledonia that has at present has more favourable intensification conditions sitting on the south pacific intertropical convergence zone.

Be interesting to see where this goes, if the east low spins up then it’s off to the cyclone graveyard east of NZ. The one closer to Queensland, different story. Models are all over the place.

Alamak!
January 17, 2024 2:21 pm

Chat GPT review of the Santos judgement summary

This text appears to be a summary of a legal judgment from the Federal Court of Australia in the case of Munkara v Santos NA Barossa Pty Ltd (No 3) [2024] FCA 9. Here are some observations:

Structure and Clarity:

The document is well-organized with clear headings and sections, making it easy to follow.
The summary provides a chronological overview of the proceedings and the key issues in the case.
Introduction:

The introduction appropriately explains the court’s practice in preparing a summary for cases of public interest, importance, or complexity.
It sets the context for the case involving an urgent application to stop the construction of a gas export pipeline in the Timor Sea.
Background:

The summary provides a concise background of the case, including the parties involved, their roles, and the relevant legislation.
Regulations and Legal Framework:

The document delves into specific regulations, such as Regulation 17(6) and Regulation 8, which are central to the case. It explains their relevance to the environmental impact assessment process.
Cultural Heritage Claims:

The summary outlines the applicants’ claims related to intangible and tangible cultural heritage, involving spiritual connections, ancestral beings, song lines, and archaeological significance.
Injunctions:

The summary mentions the court’s granting of injunctions at various stages, restricting pipeline works based on the ongoing legal proceedings.
Expert Testimonies:

It highlights the extensive expert witness testimony and reports considered during the trial.
Key Legal Issues:

The document highlights the legal issues in dispute, particularly the interpretation of words and phrases in the regulations, such as “cultural feature,” “occurrence,” “significant,” “new,” and “risk.”
Judge’s Conclusions:

The summary concludes with the judge’s findings on the interpretation of the regulations and the insufficiency of evidence to support the applicants’ claims regarding cultural heritage.
Disposition:

The final section provides the court’s orders, which include dismissing the application and discharging the previously granted injunction.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 17, 2024 2:21 pm

Heazlewood 4/14 off 10 overs.

Might be a 2 day test in Adelaide. Windies 6/108 of 41 overs on what’s meant to be a belter of a batting wicket.

Muddy
Muddy
January 17, 2024 2:22 pm

Chris
Jan 17, 2024 1:47 PM

Fortunately I have my house mostly paid off, and its not in Ravensthorpe. Still, it usually takes eight or so months to get a new job and I will have to find a way to get by, however long it takes.

Sorry to read that Chris.
From somewhere with no technical skillset, I can empathise with the challenges of seeking employment later in life. All the best.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2024 2:22 pm

Josh Hazlewood making the most of the West Indies’ low-hanging fruit, and in one of his last Test series.

4/14 from 10 overs. Keee-rikey.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2024 2:23 pm

Snap Toad.

Rosie
Rosie
January 17, 2024 2:24 pm

Apparently hamas and Qatar have agreed to medications be delivered to around 40 hostages today or tomorrow.
What medications are for gunshot wounds and severed limbs?
At least two hostages I’m aware of have lost limbs.
going to be surprised if any of the young female IDF hostages are alive

Chris
Chris
January 17, 2024 2:24 pm

Yep, it is an ‘exciting’ industry Lizzie! When our team found that enormous chunk of gold some years ago, it was beneath one of the former WMC nickel mines from that time.

Thanks for your good wishes! In the longer run its just how the industry can go. Glad you got to see some of the excitement!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 17, 2024 2:29 pm

“We agree that regional peace includes peace for Israel, but that can only happen through peace for the Palestinians, through a Palestinian state.”

Isn’t that what is expected to happen if Israel wipes out Hamas? Or has Israel said they intend to permanently resume control over Gaza?

Muddy
Muddy
January 17, 2024 2:29 pm

The Gazans tried to sell the head for 10,000 dollars. the head was found in an ice cream fridge.

From Rosie’s link above.
This deserves repetition.
H@m@s is trading in body parts.

How many new ice cream fridges will they be able to purchase with our latest donation of $A21 million?

(That Shin Bet could locate the head suggests that their network remains somewhat intact, which begs the question: How many hostages are still alive?).

Indolent
Indolent
January 17, 2024 2:30 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 17, 2024 2:30 pm

Chris.
You worked near Kambalda?
Do you know the story of how buying the old WMC leases and building the new gold plant nearly sunk Goldfields?
They brought the leases based on old WMC core samples, and justified building the new mill on those.
Mill all built, they went to star on the new leases to find big holes – most of the ground had been processed for nickel decades before by WMC.
The south African parent company had a new mine manager there in less than 5 days, and just decimated the staff down to supervisor level. People were only there long enough to find a replacement.

Muddy
Muddy
January 17, 2024 2:31 pm

Oops. Just read Rosie’s post about approx. 40 hostages. Hmmm, has there been proof of life for these 40, or will the medications be used for h@m@s?

Alamak!
January 17, 2024 2:31 pm

The right thing to do is when all debate bros eventually block or report me for being a “Nazi” is to delete my account.

All right thinking people should. It needs to die along with Canva, Atlassian, etc.

Reddit is a good way to corral and manage crazies with little real-world skin in the game. Atlassian is a collector of mediocre tools (bitbucket, trello, atlas, …) sold as “enterprise” when they should pay us for learning how to use the set of c.rap. Will not forgive them for what they did to Jira. Canva, meh.

Chris
Chris
January 17, 2024 2:32 pm

Cheers Muddy!
Us old farts can handle it.

Muddy
Muddy
January 17, 2024 2:33 pm

My 2:22p.m. post: SomeONE not somewhere.
*Sigh*
I canna even blame autocarrot for this one.

Vicki
January 17, 2024 2:33 pm

In many ways this blog is an “echo chamber”, in which we endorse many of the views that we all hold. It is always a shock – for me at least – when confronted with the entrenched views of the Left & the Woke.

Last night I had dinner with friends a few km from our farm who also live close to us in Sydney. They are old “lefties” from way back – those long haired youth of the 70s who eventually became bankers/lawyers/doctors/corporates. Many of these – like my friends & so many others – have not changed their politics at all in the intervening years.

The dinner table discussion turned – as it does these days – to the Israel/Gaza situation. Fortunately (I think knowing my position) they were sympathetic to the plight of Jewish communities around the world since the situation erupted. But they were unable to condemn the Palestinian position in relation to the latter’s relationship with Hamas.

He continually quoted The Guardian & The Economist for his rationale & the wife said she had not seen or read much about the atrocities of October 7. “Oh, it’s too much” she said – obviously having some understanding of the scope. I coudn’t help myself & proceeded to luridly describe what the bastards did – according to the own testimony & the evidence of their own GoPro cameras.

Fortunately, these are decent people and they didn’t throw me out of the house or get agitated. They were mostly just shocked. I am recounting this because it just confirms how little people still understand about the significance of October 7.

Chris
Chris
January 17, 2024 2:45 pm

VERY interesting, frollicking!
I was at Beta Hunt, subleased from Goldfields. The top 30 % of the mine was the old WMC Hunt shoot.
I had not heard that Goldfields story but as a resource modeller I am very cautious of old data. WMC, when I worked for them long ago, had a gung-ho attitude to data they were forced to hand on – give nothing but the data, no interpretation or metadata not forced by law.
Underground openings from mining the nickel would have been statutorily required data. The little guys ratting the workings after WMC got their nickel and left may have been less likely to document workings as well.
What I think we discovered is that gold drill samples esp cores will under-call the available gold by a lot, if the gold is remobilised into ‘coarse’ and difficult to predict particles or veins. The sample size is just too small for representation, if you have to hit pinhead size particles.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 17, 2024 2:50 pm

The Norks just sold a million rounds of artillery ammunition to the Russians.

Leaving them with a mere 9 million rounds?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 17, 2024 2:50 pm

Now Starc’s in the act. 8/133

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 17, 2024 2:53 pm

Now capt’n climate has 4. One to go.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 17, 2024 2:53 pm

Anybody keeping track of Woolworths share price ? Craig Kelly tweeted down 4% but that would be based on yesterday.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 17, 2024 3:01 pm

That’s why they’re lefties Vicki. Just enough info to form the right opinion without the detail, coz thats where their argument falls over.

Rafiki
Rafiki
January 17, 2024 3:03 pm

Like you Vicki, I like to think that a great number of voting Australians think the Albo/Wong policy is vicious, it at least just wrong. But I’m not so sure. There’s now a lot of sentiment for the women and children being killed in Gaza, such that the Israelis should stop. I guess that Albo/Wong have information from focus groups and polling. It’s a consequence of our changed demographic.

Speedbox
January 17, 2024 3:05 pm

Rosie
Jan 17, 2024 2:24 PM
……..going to be surprised if any of the young female IDF hostages are alive

The situation is dreadful Rosie. It is tremendously sad that those people, who were simply going about their lives, were taken by a bloodthirsty gang in that organised attack.

Like many Cats I have seen the various videos and photos – and the depravity is self-evident. Of the 100+ hostages remaining, it appears that about 21 are women and children. God help them. As for Hamas and its enablers, including those in the West, they can go straight to Hell as far as I’m concerned.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 17, 2024 3:05 pm

Woolies over the past 5 days not quite 4% down.

Cassie of Sydney
January 17, 2024 3:05 pm

Fortunately, these are decent people and they didn’t throw me out of the house or get agitated. They were mostly just shocked. I am recounting this because it just confirms how little people still understand about the significance of October 7.

People have their heads stuck in concrete. They will only understand when they come for them, and come for them they will.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 17, 2024 3:11 pm

Rodent sighted!!

Avi Yemini

@OzraeliAvi
Kevin Rudd says he’s at the World Economic Forum “to talk about the global food security challenges because it’s an efficient gathering of a whole bunch of people at once”.

Go to http://WEFreport.com for the latest from Davos.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 17, 2024 3:11 pm

Company we did some work for hit it rich on WMC tailings. Got their license revoked by WA Inc after a brown paperbag got passed.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 17, 2024 3:15 pm

West Indies are barely qualified to play international cricket. For someone raised on Viv Richard, Andy Roberts et al it is a very sad state of affairs. Standing behind the nets at the WACA as a kid was a great experience.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 17, 2024 3:17 pm

KRuddy personifies Davos.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 17, 2024 3:23 pm

KRuddy is never happier than saving the world seated in front of some butcher’s paper with a crayon in his hand. Unless Chris Bowen has eaten it.

Cassie of Sydney
January 17, 2024 3:25 pm

“Apparently hamas and Qatar have agreed to medications be delivered to around 40 hostages today or tomorrow.
What medications are for gunshot wounds and severed limbs?
At least two hostages I’m aware of have lost limbs.
going to be surprised if any of the young female IDF hostages are alive”

Where is the International Red Cross?

Oh I know, perhaps they’re doing what they did in World War II, when Jews were being hunted like animals, bludgeoned to death, shot in pits and gassed in death camps, the IRC did NOTHING.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 17, 2024 3:26 pm

Standing behind the nets at the WACA as a kid was a great experience.

Shite Bear, the pace at which those blokes bowled , I’d even be wary of standing behind the nets!

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 17, 2024 3:29 pm

One wicket to go and Aussie bowlers are gifting runs.

Just bowl at the stumps gumbies!

calli
calli
January 17, 2024 3:31 pm

because it’s an efficient gathering of a whole bunch of people at once”.

So what? One could describe the Hamas attack as “an efficient gathering of a whole bunch of people at once”.

All depends on the intentions of that “bunch of people”.

Cassie of Sydney
January 17, 2024 3:34 pm

I can’t stop laughing, further to Lattosh’s sacking, it appears that the Muslim Islamist wolf in sheep’s clothing, aka Ed Husic, is now a champion of free speech, from The Daily Telegraph…

This is our generation of McCarthyism’

Labor frontbencher Ed Husic weighed in on the sacking of Lattouf, warning people should be able to “express their views without feeling their jobs are on the line.”

The cabinet minister, who has previously described Israel’s military action in Gaza as “very disproportionate” and that children “are not Hamas” made the comments at a press conference on Wednesday.

“If it’s peaceful and conforms to what we think is acceptable in a democratic country, they shouldn’t feel their jobs are on the line,” he said.

Mr Husic, the industry minister, has previously stated that Australians should be free to express concerns about the loss of innocent life in Gaza without being “professionally black-listed”.

“This is our generation of McCarthyism which we saw back in the 50s, where people were in targeted believing that they were communist … I don’t think we need to replay that in this day and age,” he said.

Funny, I don’t recall Husic ever coming forward to defend the free speech of Ross Cameron, or Cory Bernardi, or Pauline Hanson, or Bettina Arndt, or Craig Kelly, or Alan Jones or any one of the many conservatives who’ve been targeted and silenced for their free speech.

Methinks Husick is a very slimy Islamist hypocrite.

calli
calli
January 17, 2024 3:35 pm

Fortunately, these are decent people

The most difficult ones to try to tackle, Vicki.

And, in trying to woo them, it’s difficult not to compromise.

Cassie of Sydney
January 17, 2024 3:36 pm

Nuremberg was an efficient gathering of a whole bunch of people at once.

calli
calli
January 17, 2024 3:38 pm

Both the rallies and…trials.

And the executions.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
January 17, 2024 3:51 pm

thefrollickingmole
Jan 17, 2024 3:11 PM…Aust. farmers are are some of the most efficient in the world considering the land types and rainfall. I,m not sure of the ease coast but in the west politics has and is still impacting farmers decisions. The world cries out for protein and food security and our govts. fail them. Rudd would be better off attending a farmers meeting here in Aust. and listen to REAL farmers first.

Lee
Lee
January 17, 2024 3:56 pm

Methinks Husick is a very slimy Islamist hypocrite.

Is there any Muslim politician, state or federally in Australia, who is not a whinger or apologist?

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
January 17, 2024 4:06 pm

It really shits me when any politician, from any side of politics makes policy in a area beyond there understanding. And when they do, people on the ground effected by there stupidity then spend time and energy resolving the cockup.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
January 17, 2024 4:10 pm

capt’n climate

Thats a keeper. Well played sir.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 17, 2024 4:20 pm

Good to see Ed Husic standing up for my right to say muzzies should be deported to the shiiteholes they came from.

Kneel
Kneel
January 17, 2024 4:20 pm

“It really shits me when any politician, from any side of politics makes policy in a area beyond there understanding.”

You must have the shits a lot.

calli
calli
January 17, 2024 4:24 pm

You must have the shits a lot.

I know I do! 😀

Kneel
Kneel
January 17, 2024 4:25 pm

“…because it’s an efficient gathering of a whole bunch of people at once”

Sitting in air conditioning, swilling French Champaign, eating Kobi steaks and Alaskan salmon after arriving on private jets. Then they whinge about how YOU are consuming too much and ruining the world and need to stop, and how people with no running water and no electricity need to stay poor and not exploit in one year even 1/100th of the resources you exploit in a month.
Spare you your crocodile tears, moron.

Lysander
Lysander
January 17, 2024 5:37 pm
Lee
Lee
January 17, 2024 5:42 pm

New WEF participant crashes 2024 Davos meeting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl8nRM_wWzs

Absolutely love it!

Lysander
Lysander
January 17, 2024 5:43 pm

Snap Lee!

Same post!!!

Chris
Chris
January 17, 2024 5:45 pm

shiiteholes

Well played, ser!

Lee
Lee
January 17, 2024 5:47 pm

Sorry, Lysander, I didn’t click on your link.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 17, 2024 5:48 pm

Back…

Austfailure, better subtract 1000 “homes” from Luigi the munificents projections.

Sydney complex of 900 new apartments at risk of collapse due to ‘serious damage’ – watchdog
Building Commission NSW issues urgent rectification orders for Greenland’s development at Macquarie Park

“I note the developer’s request that the department exercise discretion to not issue the order. In circumstances where the defect is not disputed, it is my view that it is appropriate to issue the order.”

Greenland Group is a Chinese real estate developer that operates around the world and has an Australian operation.

PeterM
PeterM
January 17, 2024 5:49 pm

I hope it’s real but

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
January 17, 2024 5:50 pm

New WEF participant crashes 2024 Davos meeting

Amen!

Winston Smith
January 17, 2024 5:50 pm

Did anyone else get a “Cannot connect to database” error message up until just now?

Chris
Chris
January 17, 2024 5:52 pm

Did anyone else get a “Cannot connect to database” error message up until just now?

I got it a lot this morning. Not since about 9am.

Hamsters?

Lysander
Lysander
January 17, 2024 5:53 pm

Yep Winston.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2024 5:53 pm

Test.

Steve Smith failed as an opener.

Test.

Indolent
Indolent
January 17, 2024 5:53 pm
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 17, 2024 5:57 pm

Hamsters have been fed and methed.

Absolutely flying (or pedalling)

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 17, 2024 5:57 pm

Lee
Jan 17, 2024 5:42 PM
New WEF participant crashes 2024 Davos meeting:

Gold.

It’ll be a good day when Schwab hits the sand.

calli
calli
January 17, 2024 5:58 pm

Yes, Winston. Dover is having a few technical glitches. You never know what you’ll get when you refresh the page.

I just hope it doesn’t go “pop”. 🙂

bons
bons
January 17, 2024 6:01 pm

I was pleased to see Sarah Gigante win the Tour Down Under. She has had a rough time – sacked by Moviestar, serious heart problems, broken bones, and definite problems with peleton tactics and skills. She is certainly more skilled in individual events than in a team.

With the power to weight ratio of a flea she could climb the Eiffel Tower with the right bike. Her time trialing is brilliant when she is in form.

With a TE Score of 99.95 I guess she has other options if cycling doesn’t work out. Multi-talented people like her make you realise your inadequacies.

Winston Smith
January 17, 2024 6:06 pm

Calli:
I just hope it doesn’t go “pop”. ?

“Pop” is fine.
I’ve just given the desk a yearly clean and polish.
I don’t want it to go “Poop”.
That would be bad.

Roger
Roger
January 17, 2024 6:07 pm

China has just posted official news of its weakest economic performance since 1990 (pandemic years excluded).

They’re begging international capital and expertise to return.

Population down by 2 million too.

Australia needs to adjust in the medium term.

Indolent
Indolent
January 17, 2024 6:07 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
January 17, 2024 6:11 pm

Cassie

Methinks Husick is a very slimy Islamist hypocrite.

Methinks that rhe words “slimy’ and “hypocrite” are redundant, not to say tautological.

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2024 6:11 pm

You give your hamsters meth?

Mate, they love it. They’re f$&@in’ flyin’ Chop!

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2024 6:12 pm

Crisis erupts in China and the Red Sea, goldbugs cheer!

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 17, 2024 6:13 pm

Did anyone else get a “Cannot connect to database” error message up until just now?

Site was unloadable for about an hour this pm….

calli
calli
January 17, 2024 6:13 pm

Wow! The Fan Club must have been hammering away on the Refresh button!

*waves*

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
January 17, 2024 6:14 pm

Welcome to the brave new world of life in Chinese Communist Party dogbox towers:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-17/nsw-macquarie-park-buildings-concrete-collapse-threat/103351328

I’m sure the ABC worker soviet will pull this piece when it realises that it is casting aspersions on Comrade Xi’s people’s paradise.

Am I the only one to note the woke hypocrisy in the left’s attempts to impose rainbow serpent etc beliefs by law, yet squealing about discrimination over the Lord’s Prayer being said in Parliament?

Roger
Roger
January 17, 2024 6:20 pm

The EU Just Tightened Their GRIP On The Citizens… !

We’ll see how that’s working out come June.

Johnny Rotten
January 17, 2024 6:21 pm

Winter Woes – Green New Deal Turns Deadly

“Over 150 million Americans are under a winter chill advisory due to life-threatening temperatures. Every state besides Hawaii has issued some form of caution to residents as nearly 80% of the nation faces below-freezing weather. Extreme weather highlights the importance of fossil fuels, as there is NO reliable alternative.

Texas is on the verge of having another power grid failure of the ERCOT system. Around 11,000 Texans experienced power outages on Monday. In 2021, a winter storm devastated the state, millions lost power, and hundreds lost their lives, causing state leaders to move further from renewables. Governor Abbott blamed solar and wind energy reliance for thrusting the state into a lethal situation, and called the Green New Deal “a deadly deal for the United States of America.”

EV owners across the nation are already feeling the impact. Tesla owners in the Chicago area have been unable to charge their vehicles due to the extreme cold. The frigid temperatures have caused the charging stations to become congested with non-charging and abandoned cars, leading to a challenging situation for the owners. Cold weather, in general, will hurt the ability of electric vehicles to charge properly, requiring the battery to be preconditioned to accept a fast charge.

Yet, the US government wants to implement electric school buses and military vehicles.

California plans to ban gas-powered vehicles by 2035 under the Advanced Clean Cars II, which will ban ALL gas car sales. California has routinely seen its power grid weaken due to extreme weather. In the summer of 2022, the California Independent System Operator called for a “voluntary energy conservation” during the upcoming Labor Day weekend due to the failing power grid. They are asking residents to refrain from charging their cars between 4 PM and 9 PM, which is when demand peaks. “If left unmanaged, the power demanded from many electric vehicles charging simultaneously in the evening will amplify existing peak loads, potentially outstripping the grid’s current capacity to meet demand,” Cornell University’s College of Engineering stated.

The state estimates it will need 1.2 million charging stations by 2030, but they have a mere 80,000 currently. California does not have the infrastructure to implement this zero-emission ban without toppling the entire power grid. So, electric vehicles alone have the potential to take down California’s power grid.

Clearly, we are amidst a period of global cooling and not warming. This is part of nature’s cycle — we cannot intervene. The globalists have descended their private jets at Davos to discuss climate change and how they can eliminate the least desirable carbon — YOU. They will plot how to limit the public’s usage of essential resources, causing people worldwide to suffer under the belief that they must go without to save the world.

The New Green Deal has become deadly in America and all climate change initiatives threaten civilization at large. The globalists will never convince free thinkers that they must save the planet by limiting indispensable resources that are essential for certain states and nations to remain inhabitable.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/winter-woes-green-new-deal-turns-deadly/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Meanwhile, Australia’s long Hot Dry Summer (BOM Forecast) continues to be quite damp. Currently, a lot of Flannery in Sydney.

Roger
Roger
January 17, 2024 6:21 pm

Am I the only one to note the woke hypocrisy in the left’s attempts to impose rainbow serpent etc beliefs by law, yet squealing about discrimination over the Lord’s Prayer being said in Parliament?

The Left is Christophobic.

calli
calli
January 17, 2024 6:21 pm

On the sh*ts getting…

Just watched Wendy Pong clutching some poor sap’s hand and looking “compassionate”. Meanwhile she slips the Pallies another 21 million to buy some more rockets.

I loathe this person.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 17, 2024 6:23 pm

The blind leading the blind.

High speed rail: Catherine King hits back at Bridget McKenzie’s criticisms, says she is ‘not going to take lectures’ from Nationals (Sky News, 17 Jan)

Transport Minister Catherine King has hit out at the National Party amid criticisms over how the government has been progressing with plans for high speed rail.

Ms King on Wednesday declared she was “not going to take lectures on rail” after shadow minister Bridget McKenzie noted “nothing has happened to date”.

Legislation to establish the High Speed Rail Authority passed parliament in late 2022, with the agency formally commencing operations in June last year.

However, inaugural authority CEO Timothy Parker was only appointed this month, while a business case for the Sydney to Newcastle stage is still several months away.

Ms King set on her sights on the National Party while responding to questions about whether Australians would still have to wait another decade for high speed rail.

Okaaay, the Nat wymminses is complaining that the Labor wymminses is not going faster on very fast trains. Sheesh. She should be commending Ms King for dragging her heels about a bottomless pit of wasted munni. VFTs for Oz are the stupidest idea since someone wanted to attach wheels onto a camel.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 17, 2024 6:24 pm

Am I the only one to note the woke hypocrisy in the left’s attempts to impose rainbow serpent etc beliefs by law, yet squealing about discrimination over the Lord’s Prayer being said in Parliament?

No.

Chris
Chris
January 17, 2024 6:25 pm

VFTs for Oz are the stupidest idea since someone wanted to attach wheels onto a camel.

Given its Labor…

Winston Smith
January 17, 2024 6:26 pm

Roger

Jan 17, 2024 6:07 PM
China has just posted official news of its weakest economic performance since 1990 (pandemic years excluded).
Australia needs to adjust in the medium term.

Unfortunately our governments – both State and Federal – have adjusted to the “Rivers of Gold” from China and the sale of coal, gas and iron ore, and while the money flows in, there are no significant cuts in the spending and money printing. Which means the adjustment is going to be a nasty time for us.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 17, 2024 6:28 pm

China has just posted official news of its weakest economic performance since 1990 (pandemic years excluded).

They’re begging international capital and expertise to return.

Maybe they should stop stealing the capital and gaoling the expertise. #sternhu

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2024 6:28 pm

The EU Just Tightened Their GRIP On The Citizens… !

The obvious answer, and the only solution is form letters.

Tom
Tom
January 17, 2024 6:28 pm

The Elbow regime is the first federal government in Australian history held captive by the loony left, both within and outside the Liars party.

While their immigration policy has been enthusiastically supported by the Stupid Frigging Liberals during their we-believe-in-nothing phase, the Liars electorally are terrified for the Greenfilth and will go however far it takes to achieve Marx’s fascist anti-freedom vision for the West.

So, like Elbow before her, the Wong chap is prancing around the world stage trying to trick the wily Israelis into thinking she’s a friend of the Jews when she’s all in with Hamas’s Islamic terrorism and the religious fascism that underlies it.

The Israelis are too polite to tell one of the enemies of Middle East freedom and democracy to piss off back to her backward Australian swamp.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 17, 2024 6:29 pm

Old Lefty

Am I the only one to note the woke hypocrisy in the left’s attempts to impose rainbow serpent etc beliefs by law, yet squealing about discrimination over the Lord’s Prayer being said in Parliament?

No.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 17, 2024 6:32 pm

after shadow minister Bridget McKenzie noted “nothing has happened to date” [on high speed rail].

She says that like it’s a bad thing.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 17, 2024 6:35 pm

Dr BG

Word perfect (well, only one word) Snap.

JMH
JMH
January 17, 2024 6:37 pm

calli
Jan 17, 2024 6:21 PM
On the sh*ts getting…

Just watched Wendy Pong clutching some poor sap’s hand and looking “compassionate”. Meanwhile she slips the Pallies another 21 million to buy some more rockets.

I loathe this person.

You are not alone, calli. The creature is an utter embarrassment to this country.

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