Open Thread – Fri 23 Feb 2024


The Isle of the Dead, Arnold Böcklin, 1883

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Roger
Roger
February 23, 2024 8:28 pm

database connection issues, dover.

(not a complaint, just fyi)

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 23, 2024 8:31 pm

Cooking, cleaning, maybe some basic chem, physical fitness and sensible scheduling- I’d die of embarrassment if my kids killed me and I’d never taught them the basics of body disposal.

John H.
John H.
February 23, 2024 8:31 pm

This is to be encouraged. Whether it’s the aisles and aisles of LGBTQ rubbish filling up crowded racks during ‘Pride’ week or month, the pushing of ‘sustainable’ products for which their is no natural demand (plant-based meat, anyone? Nope) or the endlessly irritating intrusion of identity politics into everyday life (‘We acknowledge the traditional owners of this airport terminal/reclaimed runway/office building/shopping mall/cinema chain, etc, etc.) consumers must use the only means at their disposal to say when enough is enough. Go somewhere else.

Good riddance, Brad. Good riddance, Alan. And let woke corporate Australia be warned: consumers are watching and if you don’t change your tune rapidly, you will be next.

I appreciate the attitude Roger but when the profits fall they change their tune and all is forgiven. I’m unchristian in that I will not forgive some transgressions and am of the opinion that people who promulgate moral propositions for the sake of profit and with no regard to the rectitude of those moral propositions are little better than sociopaths. Fxxkum and the horses they rode in on.

This is what should happen. When the oxycontin issue blew up the Sackler family managed to be protected from prosecution and financial penalty. They did that despite lying to their staff, the public, the doctors, and the FDA, the result being one of the worst drug addiction epidemics the USA has ever experienced and to this day is ongoing. However, the Sackler family faced widespread opprobrium from many sectors of society, plaques erected to acknowledge their contribution to various charitable enterprises were torn down, and they probably experienced considerable social isolation. Was that enough? Certainly not, but the lesson here is when people put profit over the people and the end result is much suffering and higher costs to society, well Fxxkum and the horses they rode in on.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 23, 2024 8:34 pm

I’d die of embarrassment if my kids killed me and I’d never taught them the basics of body disposal.

My grandfather used to know a bloke, on the Rabbit Proof Fence – one “Snowy” Rowles – Rowles failed body disposal, and was hanged as a result.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 23, 2024 8:34 pm

Mum just clapped eyes on me and burst into tears. Did you call the police she asked. No I said. I left the two bastards on the ground. This day and age, I’ll probably get charged. Abo’s get off with everything.

I don’t want to go out in public atm.

Rabz
February 23, 2024 8:41 pm

Clarice Starling was not asked her opinion

Cats, she’s gotten very old and uglee and is now masquerading as an Alaskan police chief, while gettin’ it on with Doctor Who.

Sacré Peu! 😕

Alamak!
Alamak!
February 23, 2024 8:42 pm

I don’t want to go out in public atm.

probably need a bit of ‘home’ time with no stress – the shock of the incident will still be working its way through you, physically and mentally.

Muddy
Muddy
February 23, 2024 8:42 pm

Indolent
Feb 23, 2024 4:50 PM
‘Completely surreal’: Metal detectorist unearths 1,500-year-old gold ring in Denmark

Interesting. Thanks.
I’m often amused by the theories which archeologists come up with though, based on what is often (as revealed publicly anyway) sparse evidence. A found object doesn’t actually reveal anything about the context in which it originally existed, but someone else’s interpretation or perception of that object does. Don’t get me wrong – I find anything to do with history fascinating, but there seems a good deal of reading of chicken entrails (or coffee leaves [sic]) now, as a means of making the find ‘newsworthy.’

duncanm
duncanm
February 23, 2024 8:43 pm

Glock with a cock in a frock.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 23, 2024 8:44 pm

It is my sainted mother’s birthday today. She is 82.

As we speak, she is at my ancestral seat being feted by eight to ten family friends, of whom all have been close to Mum and Dad (in the ground now for two and a half years) for fifty years or more.

Still an avid lawn bowler. An outstanding human being.

Rabz
February 23, 2024 8:45 pm

The Albozo is now claiming to be a rock ribbed advocate of unrestrained free market competition in our beloved supermarket sector, Cats.

Yeah, I don’t believe it either.

Muddy
Muddy
February 23, 2024 8:48 pm

My commiserations (for what they are worth) to Steve T (and Winston? Did I read that as a current status?).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 23, 2024 8:50 pm

It seems that Oxycontin might have been a very effective drug if used correctly, maybe under close supervision for short term post-op pain relief.
But that is hardly a mass market.
Pushing it into the open market for the relief of chronic pain and marketing it to GPs as non-addictive was disgraceful.
Being thrown out of polite NYC society and copping a relatively moderate* corporate fine was pretty mild punishment.
.
* See Trump, D.J.

Rabz
February 23, 2024 8:50 pm

KD, please pass on my best wishes to that wonderful womanage.

You are blessed. Ol’ ladies like your mum are forces of nature.

Winston Smith
February 23, 2024 8:51 pm

Steve trickler

Feb 23, 2024 8:34 PM
Mum just clapped eyes on me and burst into tears. Did you call the police she asked. No I said. I left the two bastards on the ground. This day and age, I’ll probably get charged. Abo’s get off with everything.
I don’t want to go out in public atm.

That’s exactly how I felt. Monster black eye, and the people at the Julia Creek Hotel where I was my drinking Hole at the time would have just stared at me. But it was OK – I had to drive to Townsville for CT and it kept me out of the public eye.
I was more ashamed about being caught by surprise and unable to lay a decent punch on him…

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 23, 2024 8:53 pm

Alamak!
Feb 23, 2024 8:42 PM

Back to bed for me.

Winston Smith
February 23, 2024 8:57 pm

Muddy

Feb 23, 2024 8:48 PM
My commiserations (for what they are worth) to Steve T (and Winston? Did I read that as a current status?).

No, for me it was about 8 years ago when I was working as an RN at Julia Creek Hospital.
Mind you, I was 63?ish at the time and the dickhead was about 23 and a bit fitter than me, and he had a mate.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
February 23, 2024 8:58 pm

Get well Steve Trickler, and recover from a sh1tty day.

Pogria
Pogria
February 23, 2024 8:59 pm

It is my sainted mother’s birthday today. She is 82.

Happy Birthday to Mum KD.
You obviously cherish her. Great.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 23, 2024 9:03 pm

You are blessed. Ol’ ladies like your mum are forces of nature.

My mother is in her nineties. She is very hard of hearing, but refuses a hearing aid – only old people need hearing aids.

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 23, 2024 9:03 pm

Raising a glass of red to your mum Dragger. Then a few more before bed beckons, Division One grand final tomorrow. Only the second one in our 60 year history so see what happens. Shall report back

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 23, 2024 9:04 pm

You carry their legacy, KD as your son carries yours.

Is he still fishing?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 23, 2024 9:05 pm

Raising a glass of red to your mum Dragger.

Your very good health, B.B.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 23, 2024 9:09 pm

An outstanding human being.

Sounds like my grandmother sadly departed 17 years. In her 80’s she decided to learn computers and e-mail to keep in touch with her grandchildren. Did a couple of community courses and some of my cousins helped her and she had and she was communicating by e-mail in no time.

The same lady that had endured WWII in Sydney and used to tell us about the Jap sub shellings as well as the blackout regulations that were enforced strictly. Later she ran a small business in an age when ladies were expected to be in the kitchen. Then there is more with the medical issues she faced in her late 40’s that should have killed her, yeah na she lasted nearly 40 more years. Still very bright till her death which I unfortunately found out on a desolate desert plain in central Asia by sat phone.

Cherish yours, we’ll not see the likes of that generation again.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 23, 2024 9:10 pm

Shit news today.
BiL diagnosed with esophageal cancer. I’ve got a few on my side of the family and he’s the only one worth a damn.

Pogria
Pogria
February 23, 2024 9:11 pm

I had Rose with dinner tonight, raised a glass to your mum.
Ten days ago was the ninth anniversary of my Mum’s passing. She was ninety.
Cheers to all mum’s and grandmum’s everywhere.

Alamak!
Alamak!
February 23, 2024 9:13 pm

Happy Birthday to Mum KD.
You obviously cherish her. Great.

raising a toast to the tough old ladies enjoying their prime time with family around …

🍷 🍷 🍷 🍷

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 23, 2024 9:14 pm

Is he still fishing?

He hasn’t got time – he’s ferreting away at trade school in his first year plumbing apprenticeship.

Speaking of the son and heir, he and I were compelled to watch the old man being put in the ground on 13 August 2021 through a video link thoughtfully supplied by the local funeral mob, and while we were at the other end of the continent, and because of the unnecessary restrictions placed upon us by unelected bureaucrats.

Daniel Andrews. I have not forgotten, nor forgiven you for that.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 23, 2024 9:14 pm

Cheers to all mum’s and grandmum’s everywhere.

Great grandmother lived to the age of 103. She was born in the year of Custer’s Last Stand, and lived to watch the Americans walk on the moon.

Bespoke
Bespoke
February 23, 2024 9:15 pm

Gez!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 23, 2024 9:16 pm

Roger, great rant.
On the front door of my bank is a sticker, with the ubiquitous Papunya dots, saying “All of the real estate assets which we pretend to leverage 99% of our business upon is actually owned by the Eternal Spiritual dusky humans, now and forever, Amen”.
It irks me deeply, along with a wholly digital land registry, and the push for wholly digital currency.
At the moment I’m cap in hand to the bank, and it might be that way for another decade… is there a high street financial service provider who are dedicatedly not woke?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 23, 2024 9:17 pm

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Farmer Gez
Feb 23, 2024 9:10 PM

Shit news today.
BiL diagnosed with esophageal cancer.

A close rello had it back in the ’90’s.
Ended up nearly as thin as his IV stand.
Still with us and going strong.

Pogria
Pogria
February 23, 2024 9:17 pm

Zulu,
Fantastic!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 23, 2024 9:28 pm

Hope it ends up like that Sancho.
He’s got a PET scan Monday to see if it’s gone elsewhere.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 23, 2024 9:30 pm

After Taylor Swift plays to 80,000, the PM will be off to a private Katy Perry show
Paul Sakkal
By Paul Sakkal
Updated February 23, 2024 — 4.53pmfirst published at 3.02pm

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Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will attend a private performance by Katy Perry at the Melbourne mansion of billionaire Anthony Pratt with a crowd of 200 of the country’s most prominent corporate leaders and political figures.

The working class can kiss my arze, I’ve got the bosses job at last!

chrisl
chrisl
February 23, 2024 9:34 pm

Who knew that Celebrity Chaser was a thing ?
I certainly didnt

Muddy
Muddy
February 23, 2024 9:36 pm

My sympathies for your BiL, Farmer Gez.
Family, huh?
It’s either a mixed bag, or an empty bag.
Humans. Pffft.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 23, 2024 9:37 pm

Farmer Gez

Feb 23, 2024 9:28 PM

Hope it ends up like that Sancho.
He’s got a PET scan Monday to see if it’s gone elsewhere.

The “elsewhere” question is always key.
But you know what?
Diagnosed this week and into the scan for secondaries Monday.
That isn’t bad.
Some of us do a lot of bitching about this country but, if you really must get sick, it is one of the best places in the world to do so.
The NHS in the UK is screwed.
JC will tell you the US is best, but you better be loaded and/or have high end insurance.
Our private/public hybrid system is not perfect, but it is pretty good.
Anyhow, good luck.

Rabz
February 23, 2024 9:38 pm

I have not forgotten, nor forgiven you for that

Indeed. They’ll go to their graves thinking they got away with it, KD.

I’d prefer they didn’t.

Every day that takes me further away from the hitlero/stalinist lunacy we were subjected to from March 2020 until late 2021 makes me look back upon it as though it may just have been some sort of natural normal stage in my life.

Well, funnily enough, you fascist dinosaurs, it was not.

There is no forgiveness coming your way – and I have been blessed with an elephantine memory.

HOP Time™ – it will be a visitin’ you along with my visage, just before you descend into hades for all eternity.

Trust me on this. 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 23, 2024 9:39 pm

chrisl

Feb 23, 2024 9:34 PM

Who knew that Celebrity Chaser was a thing ?

Mmmyes.
A strange background for a Plod career.
From what I read, he was trying to wangle his way into some VIP protection squad to further his celeb chasing.

Pogria
Pogria
February 23, 2024 9:40 pm

Family, huh?
It’s either a mixed bag, or an empty bag.

Muddy,
that is the BEST description of family I have come across, thanks.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 23, 2024 9:42 pm

Didn’t help that a GP had him on antibiotics for three weeks for suspected tonsillitis and then another three weeks to see an ENT. He’d lost 12kg in that time.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 23, 2024 9:47 pm

Gez
I was just talking to someone about that sort of thing today.
The continual jacking up of medication without a thoughtful analysis as to why certain symptoms are suddenly off the charts.
PS I am guessing the weight loss is not so much the ravages of cancer as not being able to get food down (or keep it down).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 23, 2024 9:48 pm

The best GP is sometimes one who shrugs and says “This is not kosher, but it is above my pay grade” and pushes you on to a specialist.

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 23, 2024 9:51 pm

Most excellent synopsis Rabz in response to Knuckle Dragger. SloMo the chief architect with his rather gelatinous, or completely absent spine.

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 23, 2024 9:54 pm

Butcher’s paper at the ready. Courier Mail:

Director-General Mike Kaiser is looking for someone who can “solve wicked problems” for the government, according to a job ad to find a new $360,000 associate director-general to lead a controversial Implementation Division.

GSB readers will recall that position was filled by Premier Steven Miles’s former chief of staff Danielle Cohen for about a week in late January before persistent questions were raised about why the role – which we now know is worth slightly less than a minister’s salary – wasn’t advertised.

Premier Steven Miles earlier this month defended Ms Cohen and Mr Kaiser – who are both not accused of any wrongdoing – and said it would “take months” to advertise and fill the role.

According to the ad – which runs until March 1 – Mr Kaiser says the person chosen to lead the Implementation Division “will have a laser focus on the Premier’s priorities”.

The Department of Premier and Cabinet was coy about the length of the contract, remuneration and detail of the Implementation Division team.

GSB can now reveal the role’s total remuneration is valued at between $330,307 up to $360,779 – with a fortnightly salary of $11,080 to $12,102.

The division “team size” will include 12 full-time employees.

While the job duration is “TBC”, we wonder if it will run until sometime in October. “Solve wicked problems, provide fresh thinking and deliver better services for Queenslanders,” the ad reads.

Queensland Cats and Kittehs, a most fantastic opportunity beckons. Godspeed

Pogria
Pogria
February 23, 2024 9:57 pm

The best GP is sometimes one who shrugs and says “This is not kosher, but it is above my pay grade” and pushes you on to a specialist.

Sancho,
I had a GP like that for thirty years. He retired just after the Covid crap started. He preferred to err on the side of further testing. He would never have gone along with any of the Covid crap. Still trying to find a GP that isn’t paranoid about mask wearing and whether you’ve had the stab.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 23, 2024 10:01 pm

Queensland Cats and Kittehs, a most fantastic opportunity beckons. Godspeed.

I wouldn’t want the job. Think of the kind of people you’d have to mix with.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 23, 2024 10:07 pm

I wouldn’t want the job. Think of the kind of people you’d have to mix with.

Lay back & think of the money. The job will last only until ALP loses the state election.

In the event the LNP snatches defeat from the jaws of victory, then you claim your reward as a good loyal comrade, for helping defeat the Tory swine, & angle for a cushy number.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 23, 2024 10:10 pm

A surgeon that my wife greatly respects told her that the thorough investigation of symptoms invariably leads you down the correct path to a diagnosis

Aaron
Aaron
February 23, 2024 10:16 pm

“The Dangling Rat Story Continues:
It’s now 32 minutes and the rat is suspiciously quiet. The ‘parents’ have finally left the ‘ouse, giggling over something.
Giggles turn to shouts of dismay, as mum sees the rat dangling from the passenger window.
Car drives off.
Well that’s the entertainment for Friday over. I wish I could have slipped a camera into the car but that would have meant winding the window down, and incidentally allowing the rat to breathe.
Also breaking and entering”.

What a deadshit you are.

.

Aaron
Aaron
February 23, 2024 10:18 pm

“That’s exactly how I felt. Monster black eye, and the people at the Julia Creek Hotel where I was my drinking Hole at the time would have just stared at me. But it was OK – I had to drive to Townsville for CT and it kept me out of the public eye.
I was more ashamed about being caught by surprise and unable to lay a decent punch on him”…

I owe the bloke a beer, you miserable twat.

Rabz
February 23, 2024 10:19 pm

Cats – not happy. 🙁

A weird new mutation of hitlero/stalinism is sweeping the staggeringly stupid west, of which we are now regrettably a component, in a cog, in a wheel.

Importing moozleys en masse into previously functional western politico-social entities has unsurprisingly not produced results that could be considered “positive”, funnily enough.

Gee, who’da thunk it.

As someone noted here recently, since the long overdue inevitable collapse of communism, the West has just wandered off into La La land.

Inventing concepts and idiotologies not seen since the fall of Rome or the Vogons’ siege of Machu Picchu in 1536 … 😕

Decadence is only ever a transitory phase, Cats.

Muddy
Muddy
February 23, 2024 10:22 pm

Daniel Andrews. I have not forgotten, nor forgiven you for that.

Substitute any of the Premiers, Chief ‘Health’ Officers, corporate bigwigs, civil liberties (feck orf!), and various other ego-based lifeforms for Andrews, and maintain the (silent) rage. I certainly will be. No political party that existed during that period will receive a vote from me until I’m dust again. May they rotate until nausea on rusty star pickets.

Rabz
February 23, 2024 10:24 pm

OK, Cats, riddle me this – if Tucker Carlson is a sock puppet, who is the entity (human or otherwise) that has their appendage(s) up his fundament? 😕

Rabz
February 23, 2024 10:35 pm

The first Carbon based lifeform who provides a semi plausible answer enables me to crash the remaining Tay Tay gigs masquerading as “the Fly“, after which she and “the Fly” adjourn to discuss the miracles of human/fly procreation … 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 23, 2024 10:39 pm

Theatre board splits over Clementine Ford booking

EXCLUSIVE
By john ferguson
Associate Editor
5:20PM February 23, 2024

A pillar of Australian Jewish community philanthropy and business has quit Melbourne’s Malthouse Theatre board amid concern the anti-Israel activist Clementine Ford has been allowed to perform on the same night as the opening of an acclaimed performance of Yentl.

Debbie Dadon, a long-time backer and board member of Malthouse, has confirmed she has left the theatre.

The Malthouse, which is underpinned by high-profile Jewish foundations and individual donors, has split over the organisation’s support for Ford’s national tour, which also includes the Adelaide Writers’ Festival, the Opera House, Newcastle and Cairns.

Ms Dadon, who is the Besen Family Foundation chair, and her wider family has been targeted by the anti-Israel lobby, which is growing increasingly hostile across the country.

“Debbie Dadon confirms she has made the hard decision to step down from the board of the Malthouse Theatre.’’

“This is a particularly difficult time for Debbie and her family and for this reason Debbie will not be making any further comment,’’ the Besen Family Foundation said in a statement.

They are concerned about potential clashes because both events will be held in close proximity, at similar times.

Zionist Federation of Australia president Jeremy Leibler said no organisation should be providing Ford with a platform.

“Ford was one of the most enthusiastic participants in spreading the Australian ‘Jew list’’’ he said.

“Her attacks on Australian Jewish women have been particularly offensive, accusing them of ‘bloodlust,’ an ancient anti-Semitic libel.

“Every Australian institution should think twice before platforming Ms Ford and her hate.”

With anti-Semitism overt on Melbourne and Sydney’s streets, Jewish community leaders have reported unease among their community about potential attacks from the anti-Israel lobby, of which Ford is a high-profile and outspoken member.

Jewish Community Council of Victoria president Philip Zajac said there was nervousness within his community among many people as anti-Semitism has risen after Hamas invaded Israel.

Mr Zajac said “professional agitators” opposed to Israel had emerged and that commonsense needed to prevail.

“It’s about people being able to enjoy unique theatre,’’ he said.

The Weekend Australian has spoken to several Jewish community members scathing of the decision to allow Ford to conduct her book tour at the same time as the Yentl production, performed by Kadimah Yiddish Theatre, is being showcased at the Malthouse.

Yentl tells the story of a young woman who defies the Jewish Orthodox tradition that forbids females from studying religious scripture. When her father dies, Yentl dresses as a male to enable her to continue her studies.

The performance is likely to be attended by large numbers of Melbourne’s Jewish community.

The Malthouse is generously supported by the Besen and Myer families.

Ford and musician Libby O’Donovan will be discussing, at least in part, Ford’s latest book, How We Love: Notes on a Life.

In Sydney, MPs and Jewish leaders raised concerns over Ford’s “curatorship” of a Sydney Opera House festival following her connections to a doxxing of about 600 Jewish ­creatives, although she denies any wrongdoing.

Ford is a co-curator of March’s All About Women festival, which will “explore big ideas important to women … through conversations, panels and workshops”.

However, political and Jewish leaders raised concerns given her recent involvement in disseminating the details of Jewish creatives from the leaked Whats­App group,

The Malthouse made an impartial statement after the October 7 atrocities: “We lament with those in the Palestinian and Jewish communities who have lost lives and loved ones in the conflict. We have no tolerance for the rise in antisemitism, islamophobia and xenophobia. We call for an end to violence.’’

More than 29,000 people have been killed in Gaza since the Hamas attacks, with Israel under pressure to minimise the bloodshed.

Ford this month re-posted a social media statement stating that Hamas was “allegedly responsible for the entire October 7th atrocities’’.

She posted that those supporting Israel were depraved and that Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu should be prosecuted for war crimes.

The Executive Council of Australian Jewry have led the charge toward new federal anti-Doxxing laws after Ford was implicated in helping leak details from a 600-strong Jewish WhatsApp group.

“We cannot, as a free and democratic society, permit the compilation of

racial blacklists and the ensuing exclusion, vilification and harassment to take place,’’ ECAJ president Daniel Aghion said.

Malthouse said: “Malthouse provides a respectful creative place and we expect that people who attend the events will show that same respect to one another.’’

“We are taking advice from appropriate authorities regarding a respectful and safe environment for all.’’

A spokeswoman said: “Victoria Police is aware of these events and has been liaising with venue management.”

“As with any event, we monitor intelligence and allocate police resources as required.”

Rabz
February 23, 2024 10:40 pm

Without allowing the Pol Dot to steal our sunshine! 🙂

Rosie
Rosie
February 23, 2024 10:43 pm

Cefalu.
Currently surrounded by a big blind Spaniards enjoying the view across the bay.
They have scenery describers with them.

Rabz
February 23, 2024 10:48 pm

the Malthouse

So, that grey ol’ dinobore has started referring to himself as “the Malthouse”.

Pictured here as he is, with one of the most preposterous hideously uglee corruptocrats to have existed in human history … 😕

John H.
John H.
February 23, 2024 10:51 pm

Sancho Panzer
Feb 23, 2024 8:50 PM
It seems that Oxycontin might have been a very effective drug if used correctly, maybe under close supervision for short term post-op pain relief.
But that is hardly a mass market.
Pushing it into the open market for the relief of chronic pain and marketing it to GPs as non-addictive was disgraceful.
Being thrown out of polite NYC society and copping a relatively moderate* corporate fine was pretty mild punishment.

No, because one of the massive lies put forward was about plasma levels. They argued it had a very low plasma level because of timed release. Amazingly the FDA and doctors were fooled by a graph with a top end compressed vertical axis indices which looked like that was the case but any decent undergrad would pick up the con job of the vertical axis.

Another reason Purdue got away with this for so long political interference from people like Guiliani.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 23, 2024 10:52 pm

They have scenery describers with them.

There’s an interesting job. It could all be done over the interwebzy thingo, without the need for either party, describer or describee, having to go near the place described. Think of the saving.

John H.
John H.
February 23, 2024 10:54 pm

Farmer Gez
Feb 23, 2024 9:42 PM
Didn’t help that a GP had him on antibiotics for three weeks for suspected tonsillitis and then another three weeks to see an ENT. He’d lost 12kg in that time.

Trusts GPs are your peril. Proof of that is how many times I have embarrassed GPs by calling them out on their ignorance. I’m not alone, so many people I know have been disappointed by GPs. Occasionally a good one is found, I had that experience decades ago, a few very good ones. Now, not so sure, perhaps standards have fallen.

Rosie
Rosie
February 23, 2024 10:56 pm

Incidentally don’t eat at the Ballaro markets, there are better options without the tourist prices.
My hosts have a list of Cefalu eateries I forgot to consult so I settled for the deli where the local workmen were buying their cut lunches. €2 for a beautiful mortadella and provolone roll.
Cefalu was a fortified Greek town 4 5 Centuries BC, the stone walls are up the three metres thick with great lumps of cut stone that must have taken herculean effort to put in place. Maybe they had work elephants. There are lots of points of interest plus stunning views along the coast and out to the Eolie? islands. The mountains run row after row into the sea, and around the corner past the lighthouse is a rocky peninsula with ruins on it which I will walk to tomorrow morning.
I get the impression the town was abandoned for a while, perhaps because of pirates, I shall find out more in due course.

John H.
John H.
February 23, 2024 10:59 pm

Farmer Gez
Feb 23, 2024 9:42 PM
Didn’t help that a GP had him on antibiotics for three weeks for suspected tonsillitis
and then another three weeks to see an ENT. He’d lost 12kg in that time.

A few days ago a friend of mine had an experience with a GP that was ridiculous wouldn’t prescribe him NSAIDs for severe pain. He saw another GP, CAT scan ordered. Tragic. Friend now in hospital, underwent surgery today. Cancer in the neck, spine, kidneys, and lungs. They’re remove the cancer in the neck that was causing the pain, the rest will be chemo. 18 months ago lost my oldest friend, grew up 3 houses down from him, and now it looks like my most loyal friend is done for. Breaks my heart.

Rosie
Rosie
February 23, 2024 11:01 pm

I guess it depends on how much sight you have left.
They also get to try local food and wine.
I’m sort of assuming travelling with family, otherwise they would stay at home alone.
Was just a bit weird in the moment .

John H.
John H.
February 23, 2024 11:06 pm

Muddy
Feb 23, 2024 8:42 PM
Indolent
Feb 23, 2024 4:50 PM
‘Completely surreal’: Metal detectorist unearths 1,500-year-old gold ring in Denmark

Interesting. Thanks.
I’m often amused by the theories which archeologists come up with though, based on what is often (as revealed publicly anyway) sparse evidence. A found object doesn’t actually reveal anything about the context in which it originally existed, but someone else’s interpretation or perception of that object does. Don’t get me wrong – I find anything to do with history fascinating, but there seems a good deal of reading of chicken entrails (or coffee leaves [sic]) now, as a means of making the find ‘newsworthy.’

Archeology and paleoanthropology are fun, strictly fun. For example, the only arguments I accept as scientific regarding the peopling of Australia are the genetic studies, which consistently point to a ~50,000 year occupation by a founding population, but even there I’ve read studies pointing to possible later populations arriving. Nonetheless the former holds up most consistently at the mtDNA and nuclear DNA analytics. The main reason I accept genetic arguments is because across various types of analyses in differing populations throughout the world the studies are consistent; albeit sometimes with problematic sample sizes.

Rosie
Rosie
February 23, 2024 11:09 pm

A friend of mine got esophageal cancer last year. At the GP’s for something else and he picked it up very early.
Last I saw him on the up and up.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 23, 2024 11:09 pm

Anyway, a couple of large single malts, and “Sharpe’s Waterloo” on the DVD is an occupation worthy of a gentleman, in retirement.

Rosie
Rosie
February 23, 2024 11:10 pm

Now it’s elderly German tourists. I think I need a new spot.
Cefalu must get bus tours stopping for the day.
No ferry port here.

Rosie
Rosie
February 23, 2024 11:12 pm

Hope your BIL gets a good outcome too Gez.

Muddy
Muddy
February 23, 2024 11:16 pm

That’s sh!t news about your friend, John H.

I’m presently listening to Linger by the Cranberries (Ah, Dolores). It seems to be the theme of the day on Clowder D’Over; the mood, not the lyrics.

Go easy on yourselves, folks.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 23, 2024 11:20 pm

Feels like it’ll be a big night tonight. Crossing fingers for minimal to no violence.
& of course, full cash registers.

The next pub up the street had a pretty fair blue last night, which emptied that place & gave me a moderately full house, not a bad crowd for a Thursday night.
Though one piece of work slapped a barmaid on the bottom – he now wishes he had not done that.

Muddy
Muddy
February 23, 2024 11:28 pm

A Silent Rage accompanies me,
Sharper than my shadow.
Vindictive is my memory for
the Lords and Ladies of Fire.
Burn me will you?
Here I am,
Ash on the wind;
waiting for your open mouth.

[Let the ridicule begin!
Nah, feckitt. Off to bed].

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 23, 2024 11:28 pm

Muddy that song is one of the greats. Very underrated.
Rabz, the answer to Bono is this

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 23, 2024 11:43 pm

Though one piece of work slapped a barmaid on the bottom – he now wishes he had not done that.

Years and years ago, in a Queensland boozer – the joint was jumping – some drunk lurched up to a pretty, and rather well endowed barmaid, and demanded “Oi. You with all the big knockers. Where’s the mens’ sh1t house.”

She stood back and declared in ringing tones “Through the door, at the end of the bar. The sign over the door says “Gentlemen”, but don’t let that stop you. You just go straight through.”

I burst out laughing. He threw the first punch, and missed. I threw the second, and didn’t miss.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 23, 2024 11:48 pm

Esther Krauke, who has been barely controlling her urge to yell “Israel should GTFOut of Gaza” for the past 3 or 4 months, has written a column in the Express in which she regurgitates Hamas propaganda to support her opinion that Israel is in Gaza purely to gratuitously murder innocent Gazans.

She actually writes at two-thirds of the way through, that Benjamin Netanyahu is a “bad faith actor”.

Muddy
Muddy
February 24, 2024 12:06 am

Nuephredde. Noice.
Insomnia. Anti-noice.

Rabz
February 24, 2024 12:22 am

Esther Krackow should passively accept her role as a vaguely aesthetically pleasing blak bimbage prone to expressing staggeringly stupid ignorantly informed o’pinions about everything.

And that’s about that. Give it a rest, Sky. Allowing her to open massive maw was never going to end well.

Annaliese Nielsen
Kosha Garda
Shazza of the tight sleeveless tops*
Lara Jays

Bimbo j’ismists. It’s an outrage that they’re allowed to even open their gaping maws to express the most bleeding obvious factlets about the most irrelevant uninteresting non-stories about, well, anything. Here’s a typical example:

Bimbo Nielsen: “Fatty Trump is a very bad Orange Man, the Kamala told us so, after we had the recording of her remarks analysed by our in house team of speech therapists and voice analysts”

The Kamel: “This proves beyond any doubt that she considers herself ready to possibly board a yellow school bus and explore many, many future and past possibilities while engaging in the oral application of her facial orifice to the engorged, engorged, I tells ya(!) member of any wally who may just have had the misfortune to have been passin’ within 100 metres of me!”

“We willl never know what we might have done until we haven’t done it, I tells ya!”

If any of the above is laden with typos and misquotations, Cats, then feel free to sue me. I’m with Tasha Smithies KC, I tells ya! 🙂

Vicki
Vicki
February 24, 2024 2:06 pm

Trusts GPs are your peril. Proof of that is how many times I have embarrassed GPs by calling them out on their ignorance. I’m not alone, so many people I know have been disappointed by GPs. Occasionally a good one is found, I had that experience decades ago, a few very good ones. Now, not so sure, perhaps standards have fallen.

We just may have hit the jackpot with new GP at practice in Sydney. We have tried them all -either jackboot “you will do it my way” or “gets it wrong every time” or “just try this pill” – & all within the allotted 15 minutes.

However, husband had to see a doc quickly last week as woke up with one eye really badly inflamed. Needed to get it checked before driving to country. Only doc available was a young Asian guy – new to the practice. OK. What a revelation. Charming, meticulous in the examination, EXPLAINED his diagnosis IN DETAIL, showed screen of pictures of similar conditions on computer, explaining the manifestations. And best of all – tolerated and even encouraged my questions – as husband just nods! A GP that gives you confidence in his knowledge, practise, and interest in you as a person.

Yippee.

  1. Seriously; they’re supposed to just sit there and take it, like they’re supposed to with Hamas and Hezbollah?

  2. For example, where a firebrand Muslim cleric has dual citizenship, revoke his Australian citizenship and deport him. A problem dealt…

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