Open Thread – Mon 26 Feb 2024


Train in the Snow or The Locomotive, Claude Monet, 1875

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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 27, 2024 11:24 am

I suspect Trumble thinks of Democracy the same way as the American Democrats when they say “Our Democracy is threatened”. They are not referring to the freedoms and inputs from the citizen body – they mean the government and more particular the government that they dominate through their own members, the RINO’s, and the deep state.

For them, the demos is a threat to democracy.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 27, 2024 11:26 am

Lord Waffleworth is Australia’s Obama.

duncanm
duncanm
February 27, 2024 11:27 am

They really are tying themselves in knots trying to make this a bad-cop-not-a-love-tryst-or-domestic incident.

Apparently being “Friends with benefits” doesn’t constitute a relationship.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13124645/Jesse-Baird-never-relationship-alleged-double-murderer-Beau-Lamarre-Condon.html

dopey
dopey
February 27, 2024 11:27 am

The Australian empire is crumbling, brick by brick, piece by piece. Only Centrelink will survive.

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2024 11:29 am

Anything organic

Kind of dumb.

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2024 11:29 am

Turnbull injecting himself into the news with two stories.

I suspect he’s trying to rain on Morrison’s parade (such as it is).

Makka
Makka
February 27, 2024 11:30 am

Lord Bebo

@MyLordBebo
????? LMAO:

Miller: “The United States does not dictate to Israel what it must do, just as we don’t dictate to any country what it must do.”

Matt Lee: “Unless we invade them”

Miller: “good one Matt”

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1762220484349845806

cohenite
February 27, 2024 11:30 am

Malcolm Turnbull says Donald Trump is not committed to democracy

The fact that this POS is still in the liberal party tells you all you need to know about those pencil necked wimps. All at the same time they have disendorsed one of their few worth while candidates, Rennick in QLD. And what that turd Pesutto is doing in victoristan is beyond belief.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 27, 2024 11:30 am

Imagine getting that phone call. We’ve found your mum after 38 years of being missing.

Emotional stuff.

SOLVED 38-Year-Old Missing Person Case in 6 Hours… (Maureen Sherman)

cohenite
February 27, 2024 11:32 am

Lord Waffleworth is Australia’s Obama.

Turdball is a poofta and Lucy a bloke?

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 27, 2024 11:36 am

I suggest a full hazmat suit before diving into the Daily Mail on the Sydney gay murders. Or at least shower afterwards.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 27, 2024 11:45 am

Via BB

Mr Weimar, who earned more than $500,000 a year as the chief executive of the Victoria 2026 organising committee,

I suppose that it is too much to expect j’ismists to be fluent in the English language, but the ongoing inability to distinguish between someone earning money by doing an actual job, and parasites like Weimar being paid for hanging around the office doing bugger all.

The only good thing is that while in idle paid unemployment Weimar’s ability to cause damage by actually doing something was limited.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 27, 2024 11:48 am

Elon is having a fine time trolling Google…

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1761865474151719410

Rabz
February 27, 2024 11:51 am

Waffles Turnbuckle says Fatty Trump is not committed to democracy

Unlike Geriatric Joe who’s so committed to democracy he’s in the White House thanks to massive unrepentant electoral fraud.

As for the Commonwealth Games debacle and the ridiculous inexcusable bludgeaucrat payments (for services not rendered), for how much longer can this country tolerate such blatant staggering stupidity and corruption?

Weimar, you are shameless crook.

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2024 11:55 am

I hope it’s not trolling.

TeslaTV – kills off FTA, Pay TV & You Tube.

Elon365, MOS (Musk OS) & Gooey (a GUI, named after a former lover).

Dewit! Dewit!

Rabz
February 27, 2024 11:55 am

chief executive of the Victoria 2026 organising committee

One of the most consequential roles in human history.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 27, 2024 12:00 pm

Not allowed to look at seeing-eye dogs.

Syracuse microaggressions workshop: Looking at a service animal could be ‘micro-assault’ (25 Feb, via Instapundit)

Syracuse University’s Office of Diversity and Inclusion held a workshop on microaggressions this past week which, among other things, discussed how the term has evolved over time.

Papaleo, an “advocate, artistic creator, and disabled woman” who uses her creativity as “a transformational opportunity for her visual impairment to serve as a part of her identity,” said “non-verbal cues” also can be microaggressions.

For example, not looking someone in the eye while speaking to them “could be taken the wrong way” (she didn’t mention Asians aren’t likely to take offense, according to the report), and looking at a disabled person’s service animal might be seen by its owner as a “micro-assault.”

This raises the philosophical question of how a blind person could actually see that someone was causing a micro-assault against them by looking at their seeing-eye dog. Maybe some nearby helpful lefty could tell them.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 27, 2024 12:06 pm

Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has labelled Donald Trump a “tyrant”

Examples of exercise of absolute rule, oppression, and wanton cruelty, please; or it’s a statesmanlike ‘Trump’s a farty poo bum’.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 27, 2024 12:10 pm

I suggest a full hazmat suit before diving into the Daily Mail on the Sydney gay murders. Or at least shower afterwards.

Bear disclosing specialist enthusiasms.

Johnny rotten
February 27, 2024 12:14 pm

In the early 1950s a British Commercial Airline pilot made a bit of a hash landing at Frankfurt Airport and mucked up pulling up at the wrong demarcation spot. The German Airport Air Traffic Controller radios the pilot to ask him whether this was his first time in Frankfurt.

The pilot messaged back “No. Not my first time but the last time was in 1945 and it was night time and dark and I didn’t land.”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 27, 2024 12:17 pm

Just spent the best $2. Out shopping, heading back to the car when I saw an older lady getting a trolley only to discover no change to unlock it. I handed her $2 for it. The smile on her face you’d think it was a hundred. I walked away with a bigger smile, not coz I did something for someone but without even thinking about it. Went into woolies to stock up on coffee but not on special so left. What I noticed was their prices have increased out of sight like others here have been noting. Some things are 100% higher than Aldi.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2024 12:23 pm

Mary Poppins film rating raised over ‘discriminatory language’
By India McTaggart
February 27, 2024 — 7.27am

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London: Mary Poppins has had its rating raised over “discriminatory language” – 60 years after the film’s release.

The British Board of Film Classification has now deemed parts of the 1964 classic about a magical nanny unsuitable for children to watch alone.

The rating has been upgraded from U, meaning it is suitable for all, to Parental Guidance because of the use of the derogatory term “Hottentot”.

Coined in the late 17th century to refer to the Khoekhoe, a group of people who were among the first inhabitants of southern Africa, the term is now considered to be racially offensive.

Admiral Boom, a neighbour of the Banks family in the film, says “Hottentots” twice – first about people offscreen and then when talking about the two children whose faces are blackened with soot.

A BBFC spokesman told the Daily Mail: “We understand from our racism and discrimination research … that a key concern for … parents is the potential to expose children to discriminatory language or behaviour which they may find distressing or repeat without realising the potential offence.”

The live-action and animation film, starring Julie Andrews as the nanny who transforms the lives of two children who feel neglected by their parents, is being re-released in select UK cinemas next month to celebrate the film’s 60th anniversary.

Classifiers picked up on the dated and racially offensive term – historically used by Europeans to refer to the Khoekhoe but later used to refer to all black people – and deemed it necessary to reclassify.

“Content with immediate and clear condemnation is more likely to receive a lower rating,” the BBFC spokesman added.

It is understood that the reclassification only affects the cinema version of Mary Poppins, with home viewing still under the U rating.

While children of any age can still watch a PG film, the rating means parents are advised to consider whether the content could upset “younger, or more sensitive, children”.

It was reported that the BBFC looked at historical context when making the decision – the film is set in London in the early 20th century – but the fact the language is not condemned when used means it now exceeds guidelines for a U rating.

When deciding on how to classify a film, the BBFC looks out for discriminatory language or behaviour that is “unlikely to be acceptable unless clearly disapproved of, or in an educational or historical context, or in a particularly dated work with no likely appeal to children”.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 27, 2024 12:24 pm

Somebody may have posted already but from Courier Mail. Can somebody post whole article?

Supreme Court bombshell: Qld’s mandatory Covid vaccine orders ‘unlawful’
Dozens of police and health workers have won a mammoth legal battle over mandatory ­Covid vaccination orders after the Supreme Court declared they were unlawful.

Have to admit it but quite emotional about this although it did not affect me personally.

Johnny rotten
February 27, 2024 12:28 pm

Duncunm at 11.27 am

One of the deceased friends said that Jesse did not have a relationship with the Copper, but only an encounter. Lol. Well, the last encounter did not go very well………

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 27, 2024 12:30 pm

Makka, about Cook. When I was in NZ my mate has a map of the country on his workshop office wall of the country dating 1951. He says,”look at this”. On the map the Fjordland coastline has a note to say it was taken from Cook’s charts as no newer survey had been done.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 27, 2024 12:32 pm

Somebody may have posted already but from Courier Mail. Can somebody post whole article?

The operative bits:

In a 115-page decision handed down by Justice Glenn Martin on Tuesday he declared police commissioner Katarina Carroll’s direction for mandatory Covid-19 vaccination issued in December 2021 was unlawful under the Human Rights Act and banned her from taking any steps to enforce the direction.

He also ruled that a similar order by John Wakefield, the director general of Queensland Health’s equivalent vaccination policy “is of no effect” and Mr Wakefield be blocked from forcing paramedics to have the injection.

Nothing in the article about redress for harms caused by the unlawful directions.

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2024 12:41 pm

Welp, nice knowing you all:

Macron won’t rule out putting ground troops in Ukraine

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2024 12:46 pm

Stupid comments all around. The Gender Pay gap is high level BS:

Australia politics live: Katy Gallagher calls on Peter Dutton to distance himself from Matt Canavan comments on gender pay gap reporting

Katy Gallagher has called on Peter Dutton to distance himself from comments made by Matt Canavan, after the opposition senator called the release of a national gender pay gap report today “useless data” that “breeds resentment and division” and might push people toward following Andrew Tate – an influencer currently facing human trafficking and rape charges.

The government’s Workplace Gender Equality Agency released individual gender pay gaps at nearly 5,000 businesses across Australia – every private company with 100 employees or more – on Tuesday for the first time.

Canavan posted on social media platform X on Tuesday morning, after the release of the data, saying it could push people toward Tate:

The Gender Pay report is useless data because it does not even correct for basic differences like hours worked. The Gender Pay report is now the annual Andrew Tate recruitment drive. It just breeds resentment and division. Andrew Tate is so popular because governments and corporates push a simplistic, divisive and clearly incorrect gender narrative. This creates a massive vacuum for the likes of Andrew Tate to fill.

Gallagher:

I completely reject those assertions … I would say that this is data that’s been collected for 10 years. It did pass the parliament unanimously with the support of the opposition … This is important data and I hope that Peter Dutton and Sussan Ley will distance themselves from those comments as well.

WGEA has been collecting gender pay gap data from companies for a decade, but has only been allowed to publicly release the data showing industry-level pay gaps, not the pay gaps at individual employers. This changed after the passage of the Workplace Gender Equality Amendment (Closing the Gender Pay Gap) Act 2023, which passed with unanimous support last year.

An absolute banger. Senator Lleyonhjelm pulls apart this idiocy and the high-level APS is left mumbling and arse-covering with sheer farting rhino turds.

What about the gender workplace hours gap?

Libertarian Party (Australia)

1,344,268 views Feb 20, 2019

The Workplace Gender Equality Agency has a lot of work to do on its statistics following Senator David Leyonhjelm’s questions in Estimates. The agency publish a gender pay gap based on ABS data, but they don’t account for the fact, revealed in the same ABS data, that male full-time workers tend to work longer hours than female full-time workers.

JC
JC
February 27, 2024 12:48 pm

The Taliban hold another public execution at a stadium in northern Afghanistan

The Taliban have publicly executed a man convicted of murder in northern Afghanistan as thousands watched at a sports stadium

ISLAMABAD — The Taliban held a public execution on Monday of a man convicted of murder in northern Afghanistan as thousands watched at a sports stadium, the third such death sentence to be carried out in the past five days.

The execution took place in heavy snowfall in the city of Shibirghan, the capital of northern Jawzjan province, where the brother of the murdered man shot the convict five times with a rifle, according to a witness. Security around the stadium was tight, said the witness, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

There possibly was some adult supervision too.

The Taliban’s supreme court said in a statement that Monday’s death sentence was carried out following approval from three of the country’s highest courts and the Taliban supreme leader, Hibatullah Akhundzada. The executed man, identified as Nazar Mohammad from Bilcheragh district in Faryab province, was convicted of killing Khal Mohammad, also from Faryab, it said. The killing took place in Jawzjan.
On Thursday in the southeastern Ghazni province, the Taliban executed two men convicted of stabbing their victims to death. Relatives of the victims fired guns at the two men, also at a sports stadium, as thousands of people watched.

And then, they go full retard.

Separate statements from the supreme court said a man and a woman convicted of adultery were flogged with 35 lashes each in northern Balkh province over the weekend. Two other people were given 30 lashes each in eastern Laghman province, also over the weekend, for allegedly committing immoral acts.

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 27, 2024 12:48 pm

Let’s continue please with the floggery on display in Victoriastan. Herald Sun:

Victorian public servants would share in a $300m taxpayer-funded lump sum windfall, or an average $5500 each, as part of a new wage deal.

The union representing 56,000 Victorian bureaucrats has told members it is committed to reaching an agreement with the Allan government by next month.

As part of the deal it wants a lump sum cash payment that would average $5500 per employee on top of guaranteed 3 per cent annual wage increases.

An annual “mobility allowance” would also see average payments of more than $1000 made to employees every year, or 1.25 per cent of their salary.

The Community and Public Sector Union is also refusing to back away from its demand for a four-day work week trial.

“Progress has been made on the common conditions and salary increase outcomes,” CPSU Victorian branch secretary Karen Batt said in an email to members.

“The negotiating team is working hard to squeeze out the best possible outcome in the context of the government’s pay policy and are continuing negotiations on smaller changes to improve the agreement.

“The union’s claim is extensive and ambitious after being developed in consultation with our members.

“We have progressed negotiations well and we will achieve many improvements and real wage increases.”

Ms Batt said she was committed to reaching an in-principle agreement with the government before the current agreement expired on March 20.

Salary increases, overtime allowances, gender equity and improved dispute resolution practices are key focuses of the new agreement.

The union had been fighting for a 20 per cent pay increase over four years and enshrined working from home provisions including a right to work from home.

A four-day work week trial would be based on a “100-80-100 model” meaning “100 per cent of pay, 80 per cent work hours, 100 per cent production.”

Last year, the state government increased its public servant wages cap from 1.5 per cent a year to 3 per cent.

It is now embroiled in multiple bargaining agreement disputes with industrial action take by police, firefighters, emergency-call taker staff.

V/Line workers are also preparing to strike after rejecting a pay deal offer that included the equivalent of a 15 per cent wage rise over four years.

And the state’s paramedics could walk off the job next month as part of an escalation in their pay dispute with the state government.

The ambulance union has applied to Fair Work for a range of protect action measures.

A members’ ballot voting on the action closes on March 12.

So whilst old mate on Struggle St busts his arse to keep the lights on and his family fed, these shameless bastards want more pay for less work. FMD

duncanm
duncanm
February 27, 2024 12:54 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Feb 27, 2024 11:48 AM
Elon is having a fine time trolling Google…

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1761865474151719410

Indeed he is..
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1762265469195886878

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 27, 2024 12:56 pm

Mary Poppins film rating raised over ‘discriminatory language’

Should be R-rated since none of the characters are black, gay or muslim. And Dick van Dyke was in blackface! That’s horrible. Children would be in terrible danger of being red-pilled.

Vicki
Vicki
February 27, 2024 12:56 pm

So whilst old mate on Struggle St busts his arse to keep the lights on and his family fed, these shameless bastards want more pay for less work. FMD

If the pundits are right, a global economic collapse sometime this year will “turn the lights on” in the heads of these unionist scammers.

Makka
Makka
February 27, 2024 1:07 pm

If the pundits are right, a global economic collapse sometime this year will “turn the lights on” in the heads of these unionist scammers.

Never Vicki. Especially when Unionists run the Vic Govt. In effect they are negotiating with themselves- all this “The union had been fighting for blah blah blah” is just window dressing for the plebs.

The lights need to go on in the heads of brain dead fktards that vote Labor into power in this state.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 27, 2024 1:09 pm

Via BB

A four-day work week trial would be based on a “100-80-100 model” meaning “100 per cent of pay, 80 per cent work hours, 100 per cent production.”

Does anyone seriously believe that all the WFH public serpents are actually taking their full “working day” to do whatever it is they do to occupy their time? This is just a double dip at a pay rise, then many will take on casual employment for there fifth working day.

Dianeh
Dianeh
February 27, 2024 1:10 pm

A four-day work week trial would be based on a “100-80-100 model” meaning “100 per cent of pay, 80 per cent work hours, 100 per cent production.”

I have a number of arguments over the past year or so about this. Most people cannot believe it and think it means 4 x 10 hour days. It is nothing if the sort. It is same pay for 80% of the work.

So unless you have been. Sitting around wasting 1/5 of your time at work, there is no way you are going to be as productive in 4 days as you were un 5 days. So next things the govt will need to hire new workers to make up the difference.

Makka
Makka
February 27, 2024 1:14 pm

So next things the govt will need to hire new workers to make up the difference.

So next things the govt will need to hire new unionists to make up the difference.

FIFY.

Vicki
Vicki
February 27, 2024 1:18 pm

The following comment appearing on Redditt concerning the landmark decision today in Qld:

Dozens of police and health workers including paramedics have won a mammoth legal battle over mandatory ­vaccination orders after the Supreme Court declared they were unlawful.
In a 115-page decision handed down by Justice Glenn Martin on Tuesday he declared police commissioner Katarina Carroll’s direction for mandatory Covid-19 vaccination issued in December 2021 was unlawful under the Human Rights Act and banned her from taking any steps to enforce the direction.

He also ruled that a similar order by John Wakefield, the director general of Queensland Health’s equivalent vaccination policy “is of no effect” and Mr Wakefield be blocked from forcing paramedics to have the injection. Seventy four people opposing ­vaccinations took the state ­govern­ment to the Supreme Court to challenge vaccination directives, they were included in three separate applications before the court. Two related to police officers or civilian staff, and the third case related to Queensland Ambulance Service workers. The workers did not have to be vaccinated while their legal fight was underway.

Vicki
Vicki
February 27, 2024 1:19 pm

Hey Indolent – I reckon the decision today on illegality of Vax mandates deserves a celebration.

Rabz
February 27, 2024 1:28 pm

the decision today on illegality of Vax mandates deserves a celebration

Too little, too late. Where’s the sanctioning of the hitlerist dunderheads who thought they could decree these ridiculous, utterly obscene “mandates”?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 27, 2024 1:28 pm

Salena Estate, which was established by the Franchitto family in 1998 and covers 191ha, produces about 10,000 tonnes of wine per year from Bookpurnong, in South Australia’s Riverland region.

BoN’s take …

Anything organic, vegan friendly or is saving the Planet (looking at you Banrock Station) doesn’t get onto the Cafe wine list. GWGB.

Philosophically that doesn’t make any sense.
You don’t think woke inner city cafes and bars support woke wineries?
A lot of people buy organic and preservative free wines.
The issue is that there are plenty of good wines around and “Riverland” is more noted for table grapes and bulk wines.
I know you are looking for a local Bud Lite to kick, but this is more likely a regional brand problem than anything else.

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2024 1:34 pm

This is the full judgement in Justice Glenn Martin’s decision that the Covid vax mandate violated Human Rights Law provisions.

Three cheers for QLD’s Bill of Rights!

JC
JC
February 27, 2024 1:35 pm

Have to say, Taliban Supreme Court, at least as report above, appears very based.

There’s actually a linear logic to the decision.

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2024 1:37 pm

I know a lawyer who worked on the police case. She was always confident of a win.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 27, 2024 1:39 pm

Sancho – Loudly targeting your product only at a nutty 10% of the population is a great way to go broke.

Instead you should say nuffink on the label or in your advertising material (ahem Bud Light) to annoy the 90% of people who are fed up with woke, but also make your product organic, vegan and Gaia-worshipping, then rely on the frootloops to read the fine print. Which they will, whilst carefully searching on the internet for the most virtuous tipple they can get blotto on.

That way you are selling to 100% of the prospective market.

The art of selling woke products is to dog whistle to the woke. That way the rest of us don’t hear or see the stupid religious signaling.

JC
JC
February 27, 2024 1:39 pm

However, this sounds a little arbitrary,.

Separate statements from the supreme court said a man and a woman convicted of adultery were flogged with 35 lashes each in northern Balkh province over the weekend. Two other people were given 30 lashes each in eastern Laghman province, also over the weekend, for allegedly committing immoral acts.

Presumably, the second party were also into sexual hanky panky but received only 30 lashes, whereas the first mentioned couple copped 35. Something appears out of whack. (no pun).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 27, 2024 1:40 pm

Johnny rotten
Feb 27, 2024 12:28 PM
Duncunm at 11.27 am

One of the deceased friends said that Jesse did not have a relationship with the Copper

How can a deceased person say anything?
Engrish.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 27, 2024 1:43 pm

Unbloody believable, saw a few minutes of Scummo valedictory speech, the things he’s listing as achievements are all failures. No wonder we are in the deep merde. Now we have Luigi the Unbelievable spittleing all over the economy in the race to be the worst PM ever. In an another hold my beer moment he managed it without trying. Can you imagine the damage if they were trying. Why couldn’t the ghay plod taken out Luigi instead?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 27, 2024 1:44 pm

Of course if you are going to make something organic, vegan and Gaia-worshipping it’s going to be very expensive to produce. So it better taste damn good or you’ll get undercut by your unwoke competitors. Free markets are great sifters of stupid.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2024 1:44 pm

The Liberal Party in Western Australia has fallen a long way since the days of Charles Court…

Steve Thomas quits Liberal frontbench over contact with Brian Burke after meeting with leader Libby Mettam
The West Australian
Tue, 27 February 2024 9:24AM
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Dylan Caporn

Deputy Liberal leader Steve Thomas has quit his frontbench position, after The West revealed his contact with former Labor premier Brian Burke.

Dr Thomas, the party’s Shadow Treasurer, met with Liberal leader Libby Mettam on Tuesday morning where he quit both his senior roles.

The West spoke with a visibly dejected Dr Thomas as he left the meeting on Tuesday — refusing to say whether he was still in the Shadow Cabinet, saying he did not want to be “independent of the process”.

In a statement released on Tuesday morning, Ms Mettam said she asked Dr Thomas to resign from his positions as Deputy leader, Upper House leader and Shadow Treasurer.

“I have not been afraid to make the difficult decisions required for the Liberal Party to regain the trust and support of Western Australians and I will continue to do so,” Ms Mettam said.

“I also expect a lot from my team, as do Liberal supporters and Liberal members across the State. I will continue to hold my team to high standards, particularly those in senior leadership positions, and I make no apology for that.

“The revelations of two-way interactions between my Deputy, Steve Thomas, and Brian Burke, were brought to my attention yesterday afternoon by the media and were deeply disappointing.

“This morning, I met with Dr Thomas to receive a full explanation and I accept that he was motivated by trying to do the very best by his electorate.”

Dr Thomas’ resignation places more pressure on the Liberals’ already depleted ranks, with now just eight members available to serve in the Shadow Cabinet after Ms Mettam sacked Upper House MP Nick Goiran from the frontbench last year.

Ms Mettam said she would consider what role Dr Thomas would play in the Shadow Ministry over coming days.

Deputy Premier Rita Saffioti said she was shocked by the revelations.

“It describes or shows where the Liberal Party is in WA — dysfunctional and chaotic,” Ms Saffioti said.

“We have a complete divide between the leader and the deputy leader. Obviously the deputy leader lied to the leader.

“In relation to the leader, she ran out an all-out attack on this issue, and now it’s blown up in her face.”

Before the meeting between Dr Thomas and Ms Mettam, Liberal Upper House MP Neil Thompson described the contact Mr Burke as “unacceptable

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 27, 2024 1:52 pm

JC, the 30 lash ones were into goats.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 27, 2024 1:54 pm

Organic wines consistently underperform in blind tasting.
Organic fruit, vegies, meat and dairy consistently underperform in blind tasting- thanks to the likes of A Current Affair taking on the brand.
Look, I know capital-o Organicness has its fans- many who are otherwise sensible people- looking at you, Top Ender- but let’s face it, it’s Halal for White People.

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 27, 2024 1:55 pm
JC
JC
February 27, 2024 1:56 pm

Adultery and immoral acts are not the same thing.

I’m not getting into another splitting hairs discussion with you. Leave that for the Phd. 🙂

JC
JC
February 27, 2024 1:57 pm

GreyRanga
Feb 27, 2024 1:52 PM

JC, the 30 lash ones were into goats.

Fair point, but what if they were married?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 27, 2024 1:58 pm

I see the National Sheepdog trials are on nearby. Dumbgold has already pronounced them guilty.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 27, 2024 1:59 pm

The goats or the other two?

JC
JC
February 27, 2024 2:00 pm

I see the National Sheepdog trials are on nearby.

Sheepdogs are lovable, but they are the SS of the dog world. They follow orders to the exact letter.

JC
JC
February 27, 2024 2:02 pm

GreyRanga
Feb 27, 2024 1:59 PM

The goats or the other two?

Other two? How do you know the other “two” aren’t goats.

Speedbox
February 27, 2024 2:02 pm

Presumably, the second party were also into sexual hanky panky but received only 30 lashes, whereas the first mentioned couple copped 35. Something appears out of whack.

Maybe the first couple were actually doing the wild thing (35 lashes) whereas the second couple were engaged in oral (30 lashes).

One of life’s mysteries. Let’s all take a moment to consider.

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2024 2:03 pm

Bestiality is zina in Islamic law – prohibited sexual intercourse punishable by death.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 27, 2024 2:04 pm

But turning up to see a human chicken drumstick still seemingly able to make audible nosies…PTSD in the making.

Indeed FTB, know of an ex cop I worked alongside who watched a man burn in a car wreck he was first responder to. Tried to get to the guy but he was too trapped in the wreck and fire had taken hold risking even them if they came too close.

He admitted the screams at the end haunt him, then silence.

pete of perth
pete of perth
February 27, 2024 2:04 pm

Took our grandson to the Melbourne Museum today. Some great spaces for kids to play and displays. Passed through the dinosaur gallery and was warned by an entrance sign that there were displays of stuffed animals. No warning about the dead flora though. Vegans must be more sensitive than treehuggers.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
February 27, 2024 2:05 pm

Jeanette Young, current Qld Gov General and previously Chief Health Officer should stand herself down right now. This Supreme Court ruling is excellent, and as others have said, too late.

Muddy
Muddy
February 27, 2024 2:05 pm

Nothing in the article about redress for harms caused by the unlawful directions.

Or the back payment of roughly $95,000 for lost wages, super, etc. Or the punishment of senior health officers (including CEOs of the health service) for fabricating an allegation of fraud as a justification for removing remuneration while being stood down. Apparently, that’s not corruption, or so I was told by the health service which refused to investigate its own CEO.

I’m under the impression that the HRC cannot order compensation?

This would explain why I’ve been ordered (yes, ordered) back to work after 20 months of anxiety about my living arrangements (this time last year, I was preparing to live in my car, but thankfully that hasn’t been necessary yet), physical and mental health. F£ck them and the rusty star pickets they rode in on.

Muddy
Muddy
February 27, 2024 2:10 pm

Jeanette Young, current Qld Gov General and previously Chief Health Officer should stand herself down right now.

Should, but won’t.
The leeway given to subordinates to threaten and harrass Qld Health staff was extraordinary. I’ve used the phrase ‘organisational psychopathy’ previously, and Qld Health very much fits the bill.

Pogria
Pogria
February 27, 2024 2:10 pm
Speedbox
February 27, 2024 2:11 pm

JC
Feb 27, 2024 2:00 PM
Sheepdogs are lovable, but they are the SS of the dog world.

hahaha, that’s funny.

I have two Border Collies and both have been highly trained. The older one (10 y/o) is the Gruppenfuhrer of dogs and when the younger one (4 y/o) is lagging behind for some reason, the older one barks at him.

Bruce in WA
February 27, 2024 2:13 pm

My brother, now retired, was a copper. Among other things he was, for a while, a pursuit driver. He had to attend numerous burning car wrecks.

Now suffering PTSD, the smell of meat cooking on a barbecue still makes him sick to the stomach.

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2024 2:19 pm

This Supreme Court ruling is excellent, and as others have said, too late.

If they were relying on parliament for redress they’d have been fortunate to get an apology.

After the last complainant had died.

JC
JC
February 27, 2024 2:24 pm

It won’t happen, but boy, what if it did? Dream a little.

California senate seat election to replace the dead demon.

California’s Senate primary could fell two prominent Democrats and elevate Republican Steve Garvey

“I don’t see a surge of Democratic turnout coming in the end, but there could be a surge of Republican voters in the end,” Mitchell said. He said that could be driven by those voters influenced by Trump’s unsupported claims of election fraud who will vote in-person rather than through the mail.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/california-s-senate-primary-could-fell-two-prominent-democrats-and-elevate-republican-steve-garvey/ar-BB1iQWab

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2024 2:28 pm

Dianeh

Kewl.

Morsie
Morsie
February 27, 2024 2:28 pm

Speaking of Victoria, according to Sky the other night, the Libs now have a policy of 95% renewables by 2035.
It is becoming clearer and clearer that they do not want to be in government , that a few of them are happy in their safe seats and high income and emitting the occasional bleat .
Seriously Victoria is now a one party state.There is no monstrous act or cock up that Labor can make that will lead to it losing as the opposition is running dead.
If they continue in this vain, any chance of a Federal win by Dutton and his Libs will vanish. No way will they campaign on nuclear.

Johnny rotten
February 27, 2024 2:33 pm

Mrs Stencho Pantyhose at 1.38 pm

Too many paras. Report to the Chief Blog Milk Monitor for a speeding ticket and another pair of breeches.

John H.
John H.
February 27, 2024 2:42 pm
Bar Beach Swimmer
February 27, 2024 2:44 pm

When the story about the police issue gun murders were first reported, hyphenated was said to have collected his gun for a user-pays additional shift.

Could that be the reason why we’ve not seen any arrests at certain gatherings, despite the vocal incitement to violence and unambiguous anti-semitism, because the organisers have paid for a police presence?

Vicki
Vicki
February 27, 2024 2:44 pm

I have two Border Collies and both have been highly trained. The older one (10 y/o) is the Gruppenfuhrer of dogs and when the younger one (4 y/o) is lagging behind for some reason, the older one barks at him.

I love that! Can absolutely picture it.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 27, 2024 2:48 pm

Interesting Cook fact 1:

The chronometer taken to sea in Voyage 3 was still in use in the Bounty in Bligh’s famous voyage.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 27, 2024 2:49 pm

Daily Tele is saying “body parts located” in the Hyphen-Soybean case.

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 27, 2024 2:51 pm

Tim Blair in form:

On Sunday, February 25, 25-year-old active duty member of the United States Air Force Aaron Bushnell set himself on fire outside the Israeli embassy in the US capital of Washington, DC, in a one-airman revolt against the US-backed slaughter currently being perpetrated by the Israeli military in the Gaza Strip …

Rest in power, Aaron Bushnell.

Uh-oh. Leftists are currently telling people not to use that phrase, because “rest in power” is apparently only for black people – and Aaron Bushnell was white.

Well, until the final few minutes.

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 27, 2024 2:52 pm

Nothing in the article about redress

On Sky last night? John Ruddick (Libertarian Party, NSW Upper House) explained that a group of NSW coppers (& others) were sacked for not complying with the mandates.

Even now they have not yet been reinstated despite the mandates no longer being in place. Others have, he said, but not them, because if they were there would be claims & compensation for wrongful dismissal.

The QLD judgment would seem to set up the first part of their potential cases – illegal mandates – (crossed fingers).

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 27, 2024 3:09 pm

Gee whiz. Ms Webb is a dickhead. Daily Telegraph:

Police Commissioner Karen Webb has shaken off backlash with a Taylor Swift reference after her leadership was questioned over her handling of the alleged double murder of Jesse Baird and Luke Davies by one of her own officers.

The commissioner’s leadership was questioned by Sunrise co-hosts Nat Barr and Matt Shirvington on Tuesday morning, following The Daily Telegraph’s coverage.

“There will always be haters. Haters like to hate. Isn’t that what Taylor says?” she said on Sunrise.

“I have a job to do. It is a big job. This is just one of many. We actually had seven murders last week.

“We had a triple murder out at Parramatta and we’ve had others.

“This, though, of course, is a complex matter. All we need to do now is find Jesse and Luke so their families know where they are. That’s my priority.”

Well get on with it sweetheart.

John H.
John H.
February 27, 2024 3:11 pm

Tiny Doses of LSD Boost Unique Signals in The Human Brain

I searched the paper, only one reference to TrkB in the footnotes. I searched pubmed, many references to TrkB, including this one:

Ps…. promotes plasticity by binding to trkb.

TrkB is widely regarded as the most important growth driver in the adult brain. It is not about serotonin, it is about that. The potential is to forget about the high and focus on developing a drug that targets Trkb. No need for expensive therapy sessions with patients going mystical and woo woo stuff.

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2024 3:11 pm

I’ve got the feeling Karen Webb is pretty clueless about violence in prisons or in remote NSW communities.

Indolent
Indolent
February 27, 2024 3:11 pm
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 27, 2024 3:12 pm

John H.
Feb 27, 2024 2:42 PM

This world is a mess… and Nietzsche saw it coming.

Nietzsche was more muddled and incoherent than this video claims.

The world has always been a mess, simple rules of conduct are demanded by simple people. Then their ability to predict what others will do is adequate.

bons
bons
February 27, 2024 3:13 pm

They do follow orders to the letter until they reach that age when they believe themselves to be in charge.

Then it is time for the retirement couch on the back porch before they lead the young guys astray.

My daughter’s currently retired senior dog found herself out of the paddock when it was discovered that she was leading the young blokes off at night ro herd the neighbours’ stock.

Sadly, I can’t have dogs on my place. I really miss the idiots.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 27, 2024 3:14 pm

Vicki,
Thanks for posting full judgement. It is going to make great reading.
Hopefully skewers CHO Qld and Commissioner big time.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 27, 2024 3:18 pm

Interesting Cook fact 2:

Had six children, but none of them survived long enough to produce children of their own.

Speedbox
February 27, 2024 3:21 pm

Vicki
Feb 27, 2024 2:44 PM
I love that! Can absolutely picture it.

You know that all dogs are descended from wolves – this dog, although a Border Collie, is a grey/white and seems to have carried the distinct look from his wolf ancestors. Border Collie but damn…. he looks like a wolf.

Smarter than some people I’ve met as well.

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2024 3:22 pm

I’ve always been somewhat perturbed that Shakespeare really called his kid Hamnet.

John H.
John H.
February 27, 2024 3:22 pm

DrBeauGan
Feb 27, 2024 3:12 PM

John H.
Feb 27, 2024 2:42 PM

This world is a mess… and Nietzsche saw it coming.

Nietzsche was more muddled and incoherent than this video claims.

The world has always been a mess, simple rules of conduct are demanded by simple people. Then their ability to predict what others will do is adequate.

Nietzsche was wrong for the same reason Petersen is wrong. They think behavior is primarily regulated by our worldview. In a discussion with Dillahunty Petersen argued that there are no true atheists, implying that genuine atheists would be psychopaths. Dillahunty demolished him. If you want to understand human behavior don’t rely on philosophers and religionists because in the last 50 years we have learnt more about behavior than the entire previous history. Start with Sapolsky’s Stanford lectures on Youtube. Slow because it is introductory but he provides the critical concepts.

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2024 3:23 pm

“Hamnet Sadler Shakespeare”

You wouldn’t believe it if William Shakespeare was an unexceptional man.

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2024 3:25 pm

Petersen argued that there are no true atheists, implying that genuine atheists would be psychopaths.

…and…the old classic one-liner for Dr Petersen: …” Your point, being?”

Indolent
Indolent
February 27, 2024 3:26 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2024 3:27 pm

Interesting Cook fact 2:

Had six children, but none of them survived long enough to produce children of their own.

Interesting Cook fact 3.

His widow, Elizabeth Cook, outlived him, and all her children by fifty years – she died at 93.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
February 27, 2024 3:27 pm

Muse to the musos, Pattie Boyd said to be releasing love letters etc from back in the day when she was involved at times with George Harrison and Eric Clapton.
Does she need the money? Is it too close to the boner?

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2024 3:29 pm

Is it too close to the boner?

My Sweet Lord.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
February 27, 2024 3:33 pm

Nietzsche was right about many things, and way ahead of his time on a number of topics.
Up there, was his assertion that God is dead. For way too many these days this is true.
But it was not a proclamation of fact, more an observation that humans had drifted away from God.
As it was with Mark Twain (Samuel Clements), rumours of his death have been exaggerated.
Nietzsche also had a severance from Wagner due to the latter’s anti-semitism.
Well worth at least skimming through his aphorisms.

Indolent
Indolent
February 27, 2024 3:35 pm
Crossie
Crossie
February 27, 2024 3:36 pm

The Police Commissioner is behaving as an utter fool during the press briefing about locating of the two slain gay men. First she’s giving her condolences to families of the victims and in the next breath jokingly referring to investigators who were present. She has no sense of the occasion or how to behave. Just as well she handed over the briefing to her deputy. Everyone is doing a better job than she did, she has to go.

Pogria
Pogria
February 27, 2024 3:41 pm

Our fearless Police Chief after her interview this morning;

The NSW Police Commissioner refused to leave Channel Seven’s Sunrise studio on Tuesday because she feared she was about to be ambushed outside by one of the network’s news crews.

Webb – who had just finished a brutal interview with Natalie Barr where she brushed off concerns about her leadership by quoting Taylor Swift’s line ‘haters gonna hate’ – then reportedly refused to walk outside.

‘If you want any indication of a police commissioner under siege, Karen Webb stayed in the Sunrise studio for up to 10 minutes today, refusing to leave, saying she would not be ambushed by our crew,’ reporter Robert Ovadia claimed.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 27, 2024 3:47 pm

Interesting Cook fact 4:

He wrote over a million words about his three major voyages and other observations, but almost nothing about himself.

Crossie
Crossie
February 27, 2024 3:50 pm

Now we know that policing in NSW is in a bad shape when they need someone from Victoria Police to teach them a thing or two.

Bruce in WA
February 27, 2024 3:50 pm

Always been a sucker for a steel guitar played well.

This bloke’s not bad.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 27, 2024 3:52 pm

Looks like the accused in the double murder case relented and gave assistance to find where he’d put the bodies.

Police saying about 16 k’s away from where they were originally searching near Goulburn.

Crossie
Crossie
February 27, 2024 3:56 pm

Police Commissioner gave her condolences to the QWERTY community for the deaths of the two gay men yet insisted these were not hate crimes but more along domestic violence. This woman should not be allowed anywhere near reporters.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 27, 2024 3:57 pm

In a discussion with Dillahunty Petersen argued that there are no true atheists,

I watched a bit of the video. Slow and boring.

Nobody doubts that there are social benefits associated with the western Christian mythos. Also some serious problems.

Nietzsche is said to have claimed that Christianity contains the seeds of its own destruction in that it elevates truth as essential, and the pursuit of truth entails doubt. So a really good Christian will doubt the foundational beliefs.

You do what God wants when you don’t believe in Him.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 27, 2024 3:58 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer
Feb 27, 2024 2:44 PM
When the story about the police issue gun murders were first reported, hyphenated was said to have collected his gun for a user-pays additional shift.

Could that be the reason why we’ve not seen any arrests at certain gatherings, despite the vocal incitement to violence and unambiguous anti-semitism, because the organisers have paid for a police presence?

Let me re-pohrease your question.

Could that be the reason why we’ve seen only arrests of peaceful non-Mooslimes at certain gatherings, because the organisers have paid for a police presence to stop any counter-protests?

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 27, 2024 3:59 pm

… re-phrase …, not sure what happened there.

cohenite
February 27, 2024 4:06 pm

The 2 murdered pooftas found. This Beau Lamarre-Condon is a piece of work.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2024 4:11 pm

Over $4000 in fines issued after eight people front court over Narrogin civil disorder incidents
Daniel Rooney
Narrogin Observer
Tue, 27 February 2024 12:37PM

Details revealed in court have shed light on how an extraordinary night unfolded on the streets of Narrogin when about 50 people became embroiled in a fight earlier this month.

Eight people received fines totalling $4150 in Narrogin Magistrates Court on February 20 on charges stemming from civil disorder incidents that took place on February 2.

About 11.30pm on the night in question, police attended Doney Street after receiving reports that a large group of people were fighting.

Police prosecutor Sgt Phil Milne said that Isiah Randell Jetta-Bolton, Jeffery Alan Anderson, Donelle Raelene Ugle, Sonia Anne Kickett, Ty-Rone Jason Kickett and Kyle Jason Bernard Kickett were among those engaged in the conflict.

Any Western Australian Cats know these names….

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2024 4:12 pm

He wrote over a million words about his three major voyages and other observations, but almost nothing about himself.

Interesting, Top Ender, I didn’t know that.

Lysander
Lysander
February 27, 2024 4:13 pm

I’m yet to “meet” a (secular) mainstream philosopher who lived according to the rules they set for others. “Nitchyky” was heavily opposed to drug use, but used opium in vast quantities. Roussea wrote Emile about how to bring up a boy but discarded his own children.

(Even the lovey dovey ones who don’t believe in God but preach a love and tolerance they have never practiced, and have no respect for where these values came from also)

Aristotle artistole …. was a bugger for the bottle….

c’mon… sing along!….

Annie
Annie
February 27, 2024 4:14 pm

Bourne @ 12.24:

Avi Yemini has a report…

Diogenes
Diogenes
February 27, 2024 4:14 pm

Now we know that policing in NSW is in a bad shape when they need someone from Victoria Police to teach them a thing or two.

My younger brother got his promotion to Senior Sergeant when he was seconded to the Wood Royal Commission. He and a superintendent sat through all the evidence and tried to crystal ball the recommendations and come up with a plan to implement said recommendations. That pommie dickead commish had the political nouse to plan ahead.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 27, 2024 4:14 pm

Police Commissioner gave her condolences to the QWERTY community for the deaths of the two gay men yet insisted these were not hate crimes but more along domestic violence.

I’d say she was right on the second point. If it had been a hetero triangle and a bloke had killed his girlfriend and her new lover, nobody would call it a hate crime.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 27, 2024 4:16 pm

Police will allege the bodies were transported from Mr Baird’s house in Paddington in surf bags.

Oh, OK.
I did wonder how he got the bodies out un-noticed in busy Paddo.

“What we will allege is this 28-year-old man acted alone and he’s the sole person responsible for the murders of Luke and Jesse.

I can buy that.

He’s the sole person responsible for placing the bodies of Luke and Jesse at this current location and that’s what we’ll allege,” Supt Doherty said.

But I can’t buy that.
Getting two bodies out of a house in a surfbag in a busy suburb and into a van on your own is stretching it.
Note the cute choice of words.
“Placing the bodies in their current location”.
Not saying “moving them from Paddington to Bungonia on his own”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2024 4:17 pm

The Tele:

Human remains have been found in the search for dead couple Jesse Baird and Luke Davies.

The bodies of the two men were found just after lunchtime, and their families were notified immediately.

Homicide boss Detective Superintendent Danny Doherty said investigators spoke to the accused in jail at about 11am, and by 1pm they had located the two bodies on a property at Bungonia in the southern tablelands, based on information he gave them.

And:

The bodies were allegedly discovered inside two surfboard bags

Surfboard bags.

That disposal method didn’t work for Roger Rogerson either.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2024 4:19 pm

Isiah Randell Jetta-Bolton

Closely related to Mark Bolton, I assume.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 27, 2024 4:25 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer
Feb 27, 2024 2:44 PM
When the story about the police issue gun murders were first reported, hyphenated was said to have collected his gun for a user-pays additional shift.

My suspicion is that he maybe didn’t do the shift anyway (even though NSW Plod told the press he was “on shift”).
In any case, he picked the gun up Friday supposedly for a Sunday shift and returned it on, I think, Tuesday.
That screams slackness.

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 27, 2024 4:25 pm

This Beau Lamarre-Condon is a piece of work.

Looks NQR straight off the bat. Have you seen the vid of him tasering (or trying to taser) a bloke from a few years back? It was on a A Current Affair air last night.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 27, 2024 4:26 pm


In a discussion with Dillahunty Petersen argued that there are no true atheists,

I watched a bit of the video. Slow and boring.

And Petersen seems to think that psilocybin has some connection with the transcendental. A simpler explanation is that it can make you permanently potty.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 27, 2024 4:28 pm

That disposal method didn’t work for Roger Rogerson either.

Well, not ideal for disposal at sea, due to the buoyancy factor.
And for land disposal?
Well, most are silver or white in colour, so stick out like…

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 27, 2024 4:29 pm

But I can’t buy that.
Getting two bodies out of a house in a surfbag in a busy suburb and into a van on your own is stretching it.

Quite so.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
February 27, 2024 4:31 pm

Andrew Clennell on Daytime Sky:
Scot Morrison stuffed up on bushfires …
No. Paul Murray dealt with this syndrome the other night.
Conservative PMs get treated quite differently to Labor ones.
We see no such “go for the jugular” by the majority of the media when Labor are in power .

eric hinton
eric hinton
February 27, 2024 4:31 pm

Any Western Australian Cats know these names….

Makings of a fairly good football team.

amortiser
amortiser
February 27, 2024 4:32 pm

Not a hoax after all. The alleged perpetrator IS as thick as a bucket full of rocks.

I hope he is not representative of the calibre recruits to the NSW police force.

What’s this with the Commish giving her condolences to the QERTY community?

I’ve never seen this done when heterosexuals are murdered. Our condolences to the “straight” community?

Identity politics is infecting every nook and cranny.

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 27, 2024 4:34 pm

BJ, I’m sure that the report of his shift included a reference to a demonstration in regard to the user-pays description.

If it was a pali demo, every user-pays shift should be reported on the cop website so we will all know in real time how the cops go about what is loosely described as “policing” in this state.

duncanm
duncanm
February 27, 2024 4:35 pm

Quoted for truth..
https://twitter.com/MrsMThatcher/status/1748655021800014010

Margaret Thatcher
@MrsMThatcher
Automated
It’s ironic that the only true Thatcherite leader in the world today is Argentinian.

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 27, 2024 4:36 pm

But I can’t buy that.

Me neither.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 27, 2024 4:39 pm

he picked the gun up Friday supposedly for a Sunday shift and returned it on, I think, Tuesday.

And he had a gun safe to store it in, when he wasn’t “playing with it”?

Winston Smith
February 27, 2024 4:42 pm

H B Bear

Feb 27, 2024 11:36 AM
I suggest a full hazmat suit before diving into the Daily Mail on the Sydney gay murders. Or at least shower afterwards.

Pass, HBB.
Pass on this whole tawdry affair.

Tom
Tom
February 27, 2024 4:43 pm

Any Western Australian Cats know these names….

Plenty of Kicketts were AFL champions.

That’s not to say all of those at war in the street that night in Narrogin were blackfellahs — just most of them.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 27, 2024 4:44 pm

It’s ironic that the only true Thatcherite leader in the world today is Argentinian.

Yes. Yes, it is. And if he invaded the Falklands, there’d be nobody in the UK who would put up a fight. They wouldn’t be able to.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 27, 2024 4:46 pm

Surf bag

Thank you KD, for expanding it to “surfboard bag”
Presumably would work as an impromptu body bag. (this nugget of info filed, you never know when it may come in handy)
I was wondering what the heck a “surf bag” may be. (From context it isn’t the surfing equivalent of “town bike”)

Vicki
Vicki
February 27, 2024 4:46 pm

What’s this with the Commish giving her condolences to the QERTY community?
I’ve never seen this done when heterosexuals are murdered. Our condolences to the “straight” community?

There is nothing about this woman that commands confidence. But that is just my personal opinion.

Annie
Annie
February 27, 2024 4:46 pm

Sorry, abbreviated comment at 4.14pm. I had a call to open some paddock gates.

Bourne @ 12.24 was looking for details on the outcome of the case in Qld. Avi Yemini has details so worth checking there.

billie
billie
February 27, 2024 4:51 pm

Makka

The lights need to go on in the heads of brain dead fktards that vote Labor into power in this state.

They love labor here in Victoria and I don’t understand it, then again, the other mob gets no air time at all and might as well not exist in the media here.

That plays a fair way into it, and during an election the bad news is nearly all one way and our ABC do all they can to aggressively attack anyone but Labor and the Greens.

How do you defeat that?

Currently the other mob is trying the technique of the last Liberal Government, sucking up to the media .. it will never work and is astonishing they keep rolling it out.

They seem convinced they need to be nice to their critics and copy the woke/green climatey BS .. makes me sick to hear it.

Vicki
Vicki
February 27, 2024 4:51 pm

Scot Morrison stuffed up on bushfires …
No. Paul Murray dealt with this syndrome the other night.

I don’t care what Murray said. My impression of Morrison is that he had virtually no understanding of rural Australia.

I can’t recall any understanding shown of the horrors of the 2018 drought or the subsequent terror generated by the Gosper Mt firestorm.

Of all recent Liberal PMs he was the most urban centred. His support for Net Zero confirmed it.

amortiser
amortiser
February 27, 2024 4:56 pm

What’s Andrew Clennell on about with using police weapons in user pays work?

In such work eg presence at AFL games the police are present in police uniform. Individual police are not paid by the event organisers they are paid by the police service. The event organiser pays the police service their fee.

Where do these journalists come from? Clennell is supposed to be an experienced journalist yet he gobs off on an issue like this with no idea how it works.

It’s been about 5 days since we learned that the accused signed out the weapon for a user pays gig. He’s had all that time to familiarise himself about the workings of user pays events and he still disgraces himself.

What a goose!!

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 27, 2024 4:56 pm

The next time a gay kills another gay I demand all gays be banned from Mardi Gras as clearly anti gay.

I don’t think they have thought it through.

Rabz
February 27, 2024 4:56 pm

then again, the other mob gets no air time at all and might as well not exist in the media here

Given the idiocy of their policies (and their leader) that’s probably not a bad thing.

Giuseppe Prosciutto: “We’ll be going 95% Year Zero by 2035 when that uppity nayzee chick Deeming won’t be any where to be seen”

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 27, 2024 4:58 pm

billie Feb 27, 2024 4:51 PM
They love labor here in Victoria and I don’t understand it, then again, the other mob gets no air time at all and might as well not exist in the media here.
How do you defeat that?

By taking a leaf of the playbook of politicians who do get into the media. Eg Jacquie Lambie, Pauline Hanson, Bob Katter, George Christensen, et al.

Say something sensible that the left consider to be outrageous, & say it like you mean it. Eg, The army shouldn’t pay income tax, or car rego should be half the price, or somesuch.

The horrified left-leaning media will get your name & message out there, believing they’re showing the genpop what a dickhead you are, meanwhile the normies are hearing something that sounds sensible.

Puzzled as to why your polling is heading north, the media will double down on amplifying your message.

Speedbox
February 27, 2024 5:00 pm

amortiser
Feb 27, 2024 4:32 PM
What’s this with the Commish giving her condolences to the QERTY community? I’ve never seen this done when heterosexuals are murdered. Our condolences to the “straight” community? Identity politics is infecting every nook and cranny.

Yeah, I thought the same. Why was she apologising to a specific distinct group? Perhaps an apology to the people of NSW generally, that police procedures appear to have let them down by allowing a person to use their service weapon to commit a crime. Or, how about an apology that the person was deemed suitable to be a police officer and wasn’t weeded out when he applied. Whilst on the subject, how about an apology for the appalling ignoring of hate-speech by police over the past 3 months by the Pali supporters.

What is it about the homosexual lobby that it commands such fawning from our politicians and assorted other leaders (ie. police).

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 27, 2024 5:01 pm

Giuseppe Prosciutto: “We’ll be going 95% Year Zero by 2035 when that uppity nayzee chick Deeming won’t be any where to be seen”

Total mystery why they lose elections.
Can’t wait for the day his go-fund-me flops (trying to raise the money the court says he must pay to Ms. Deeming)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 27, 2024 5:04 pm

Police will allege the bodies were transported from Mr Baird’s house in Paddington in surf bags.

Body boards!

Rabz
February 27, 2024 5:06 pm

Who’ll be leading the fawning political obituaries for Goose Morristeen this evening on Sky?

Shazza?
Kenny?
Crudlin?
Pricey?
Joe Hildebeast?

Ding Dong! We have a winner, folks, Paul Murray, come on down!

Muddy
Muddy
February 27, 2024 5:11 pm

The Qld Human Rights Commission’s judgement is not kind to the court performance of QPS Commissioner Carroll, however my reading of the summary and (an admittedly cursory) skim through the full product leaves me confused. I’m happy to be corrected, but my interpretation is that, while both directives (QPS and QAS) are ruled unlawful, the limitations to the human rights of the applicants was declared reasonable.

So that’s a ‘no-but-yes?’
What am I missing?

Muddy
Muddy
February 27, 2024 5:14 pm

Bourne1879
Feb 27, 2024 12:24 PM

Full judgement (115 pages).

Muddy
Muddy
February 27, 2024 5:19 pm

Page 114:

As I have held in other proceedings [citation number omitted] disciplinary action may still be taken by the Commissioner and Director-General.

Nothing changes?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 27, 2024 5:19 pm

Annie
Feb 27, 2024 4:46 PM
Sorry, abbreviated comment at 4.14pm. I had a call to open some paddock gates.

Uh-oh!
Man in a white van?

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 27, 2024 5:21 pm

Steve Thomas quits Liberal frontbench over contact with Brian Burke after meeting with leader Libby Mettam

20 years on Burke remains political Kryptonite. With good reason.

Muddy
Muddy
February 27, 2024 5:22 pm

Sorry. On the final page (if I understand it correctly, bearing in mind my redneck yokel status), orders are given that restrain the heads of the QPS and QAS from taking disciplinary action against the non-vaccinated applicants.

It’s difficult to know what to make of all of this. Certainly there were no attempts to seek financial redress by the applicants.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 27, 2024 5:28 pm

Where does the Qld Human Rights Commission fits into this vaccine mandate judgement?

Muddy
Muddy
February 27, 2024 5:29 pm

Sancho Panzer
Feb 27, 2024 1:40 PM

How can a deceased person say anything?

Off topic, but the Lieboral Party don’t seem to have any problems with oral ejaculation. (Likely due to the escaping gasses of internal decomposition passing through the vocal chords).

Muddy
Muddy
February 27, 2024 5:32 pm

The QHRC has declared that the QPS and QAS directions for mandatory jabbing were unlawful because they breached the applicants’ human rights. However, the limits placed on the applicants’ human rights were ‘reasonable.’

I think. I don’t know. I’m not a beagle eagle. Or summink.

(The efficacy of the vaccines seems to have been assumed?).

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 27, 2024 5:37 pm

It was Supreme Court not HRC.

So far neither The Oz, Herald Sun or Daily Telegraph have mentioned the case.

4BC did have a clip on the news with Pauline Hanson saying she feels vindicated over the result.

Not listened to 4BC all day but don’t appear to be giving the story much attention.

The mainstream media will be trying to keep this low key.

So tell everybody you know!

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 27, 2024 5:45 pm

I was speaking to an ex-copper (Victoria) mate today in regards to procedure regarding service weapons. He was stationed in his time at a few different cop shops in Surf Coast and Bellarine towns.

He used to like doing overtime/off-roster gigs at the footy at Kardinia Park. In those instances the cops doing the footy that day would report to Geelong cop shop, suit up/briefing etc, and then be issued with what he called a “spare” from the armoury. Any of the coppers that were based at Geelong station doing the footy would sign out their own service weapon etc.

After the footy. Return the spare, get in your civvies and go home.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 27, 2024 5:45 pm

For some LOLs Mavis has a column on SloMo in today’s Paywallian.

shatterzzz
February 27, 2024 6:00 pm

Worthwhile addition for the Israeli hostage negotiations ..
https://postimg.cc/MvJL5bRC

Winston Smith
February 27, 2024 6:01 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

Feb 27, 2024 3:27 PM
Had six children, but none of them survived long enough to produce children of their own.
His widow, Elizabeth Cook, outlived him, and all her children by fifty years – she died at 93.

Her final years must have been heartbreaking for her. Did she have any other family?

Crossie
Crossie
February 27, 2024 6:10 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer
Feb 27, 2024 4:34 PM
BJ, I’m sure that the report of his shift included a reference to a demonstration in regard to the user-pays description.

If it was a pali demo, every user-pays shift should be reported on the cop website so we will all know in real time how the cops go about what is loosely described as “policing” in this state.

Yes, we need to know when the police have been rented and when they are on actual policing work. One other thing, why are they allowed to wear uniforms when not on official business and just being rent-a-cop?

shatterzzz
February 27, 2024 6:11 pm

“I have a job to do. It is a big job. This is just one of many. We actually had seven murders last week.

To give you the idea she does any plodding .. LOL!
If it weren’t for the media publicity over the plod pillow biter’s involvement in 2 of them her only interest in the weekly murder rates would be the stats memo in her in-tray ..

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
February 27, 2024 6:12 pm

Credlin: again we are being regaled with agitprop about the gender pay gap by the same people who have trouble saying what a woman is.
Ouch! Touche!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2024 6:13 pm

Her final years must have been heartbreaking for her. Did she have any other family?

Her will mentions nieces and nephews, grandnieces and grandnephews, as legatees.

Crossie
Crossie
February 27, 2024 6:17 pm

Margaret Thatcher
@MrsMThatcher
Automated
It’s ironic that the only true Thatcherite leader in the world today is Argentinian.

The world is turning upside down, more and more. A middle power like UK going down the gurgler while Argentina, a former basket case, has decided not to commit political and economic suicide. I suppose it helps that they don’t have an infiltration of millions of illegal immigrants and only their own population to persuade.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 27, 2024 6:17 pm

I have a job to do. It is a big job. This is just one of many. We actually had seven murders last week.

How many people in NSW? As someone has said, probably on borrowed time. Shades of “I had to eat”. Other parallels could be drawn.

miltonf
miltonf
February 27, 2024 6:20 pm

Shades of “I had to eat”.

very much so

shatterzzz
February 27, 2024 6:20 pm

Grandees gotta luv ’em .. one of my grandees, miss five, rang me today, “Grandad for my burfday I wantz a guitar, pleeze” ..
Apparently, according to Mum she has been inspired after her trip up from Danistan to see TAY TAY …. LOL!

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2024 6:21 pm

Why was she apologising to a specific distinct group?

Are you unaware of identity politics or is this a rhetorical question?

Rosie
Rosie
February 27, 2024 6:22 pm

Very interesting presentation by Arab League at the ICJ today.

I watched two minutes of remarks about racism and forcible this and that.
As though Arabs were just innocent sitting duck victims of Jewish aggression.
100 years of suffering.

Jews have always lived in Israel.
More Jews moved to Israel in the late 19th and early 20th century by buying property from willing sellers.
Arabs started a war and lost.
More than once.

Crossie
Crossie
February 27, 2024 6:23 pm

They love labor here in Victoria and I don’t understand it, then again, the other mob gets no air time at all and might as well not exist in the media here.

That plays a fair way into it, and during an election the bad news is nearly all one way and our ABC do all they can to aggressively attack anyone but Labor and the Greens.

Billie, since the Libs are never going to get a break from the media they might as well play against the media. Do stunts, make outrageous statements that would enrage the media but play well with the voting public, ask uncomfortable questions of the government and the media. Make the media defend their own actions.

I know, this requires guts and imagination which the Pesutto lot run from at supersonic speed.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2024 6:25 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/02/israel-must-have-total-victory-over-hamas-total-victory.html#comments

Oh, you mighty warriors of Hamas – dragging half naked Israeli girls off to Gaza, on your motorcycles…Just a single bullet, fair between the eyes…

Crossie
Crossie
February 27, 2024 6:29 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Feb 27, 2024 4:58 PM
billie Feb 27, 2024 4:51 PM

Say something sensible that the left consider to be outrageous, & say it like you mean it. Eg, The army shouldn’t pay income tax, or car rego should be half the price, or somesuch.

Should have scrolled down to your comment to see that you already suggested this approach. Consider this a big uptick.

Bruce in WA
February 27, 2024 6:30 pm

Stake Hill shooting: Commissioner Col Blanch has not ruled out charges against homeowner who shot intruder

The West Australian
Tue, 27 February 2024 11:35AM

Caleb Runciman
Police are continuing to investigate whether a licensed firearm owner who shot an alleged intruder found naked inside his granddaughter’s walk-in-robe used reasonable force.

Ah, WA … beautiful one day; a police state the next.

Crossie
Crossie
February 27, 2024 6:31 pm

Rabz
Feb 27, 2024 5:06 PM
Who’ll be leading the fawning political obituaries for Goose Morristeen this evening on Sky

Ding Dong! We have a winner, folks, Paul Murray, come on down!

I always assumed he would as they are close friends.

John H.
John H.
February 27, 2024 6:32 pm

dover0beach
Feb 27, 2024 5:35 PM
If you want to understand human behavior don’t rely on philosophers and religionists because in the last 50 years we have learnt more about behavior than the entire previous history.

I had a look at a brief interview he gave on free will and was not particularly impressed with his philosophical excursion. He seems to be rehashing a position better put by Rosenberg but lacking the philosophical background of the latter.

I think he is way off base on that issue. I couldn’t care less about arcane debates that have been going on for centuries because if the issue hasn’t been solved by now the question is the problem. That highlights a fundamental problem with philosophy and is why so many are turned off by the subject.

When it becomes to behavior though Sapolsky is leading the way.

cohenite
February 27, 2024 6:33 pm

Twiggy is a fuking POS. He is full blackout bowen against nuclear and full blackout bowen for ruinables. No wonder his missus has pissed off, along with his female CEO.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
February 27, 2024 6:35 pm

You can’t see the forest for the trees?
I certainly can’t see Twiggy Forrest’s intellect getting to grips with the brave new world we inhabit these days. His obsession with renewables is no more logically-based than all those others.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2024 6:35 pm

Sopranos marathon. Day 5.

Tony Soprano just killed Ralph Siporetto over Pie-Oh-My’s death in a fire.

A televisual feast indeed.

Crossie
Crossie
February 27, 2024 6:37 pm

Jews have always lived in Israel.
More Jews moved to Israel in the late 19th and early 20th century by buying property from willing sellers.
Arabs started a war and lost.
More than once.

Lizzie, people who have always relied on lies will not willingly accept the truth.

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2024 6:37 pm

I couldn’t care less about arcane debates that have been going on for centuries because if the issue hasn’t been solved by now the question is the problem.

Or people are making the same mistakes over and again as philosophical questions are revisited.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 27, 2024 6:38 pm

Billie, since the Libs are never going to get a break from the media they might as well play against the media.

No surprise Trump completely bypassed the media via Twitter prior to his election. Now he is political Hydra, every time they cut off a head two grow back.

Crossie
Crossie
February 27, 2024 6:39 pm

Sorry Rosie, confused you with Lizzie.

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2024 6:46 pm

My impression of Morrison is that he had virtually no understanding of rural Australia.

I can’t recall any understanding shown of the horrors of the 2018 drought or the subsequent terror generated by the Gosper Mt firestorm.

Lack of empathy.

There were many other occasions when he demonstrated that trait.

I’m not suggesting a PM should wear his heart on his sleeve but there was something awry with Morrison’s personality in that regard.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
February 27, 2024 6:47 pm

Good ICJ presentation DB, but presumably the shortcoming to the argument is that it basically assumes history and a right to self determination only began c 100 years ago?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 27, 2024 6:47 pm

Argentina, a former basket case, has decided not to commit political and economic suicide.

I wouldn’t be too sure about that.

Thousands protest as hunger grows amid Argentine austerity (24 Feb)

Argentina: Activists to strike nationwide, protest in Buenos Aires on Feb. 26 (26 Feb)

Argentina has a history of putsches and coups, and we haven’t seen their deep state in action yet. After all those years with the Kirchners in the big house they must be well entrenched. They’re unlikely to be happy campers right now.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2024 6:47 pm

More Jews moved to Israel in the late 19th and early 20th century by buying property from willing sellers.

The Jews owned some 7% of the land of “Palestine” – they paid over the going rate, in gold.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 27, 2024 6:55 pm

I certainly can’t see Twiggy Forrest’s intellect getting to grips with the brave new world we inhabit these days.

Amusingly his executives have been bailing from the company like fleeing rats.

Andrew Forrest ‘riding two horses at the same time’ with green energy push (Sky News, 27 Feb)

Mining magnate Andrew ‘Twiggy’ Forrest has blamed the revolving door of senior executives at his company Fortescue on the transition to renewable energy.

Who’da thunk that grizzled miners might not be converts to the Gaia-religion? Ah well, they can always get a job with Gina.

‘Climate denialist’: Andrew Forrest claims Gina Rinehart ‘married to fossil fuels’ (Sky News, 27 Feb)

We’ll see which of them comes out best. I’m betting Gina.

miltonf
miltonf
February 27, 2024 6:59 pm

What a turd that Forrest is. Give me Gina and Jacinta any day.

  1. Listened to this while we munched on pinchos last night. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNp6y7aYa-s Ages since I heard it last. *warning* peak hair…

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