Open Thread – Thurs 4 April 2024


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cohenite
April 5, 2024 4:47 pm

I read this as Breitbart; sounds right:

The last person to see Mossad agent Robert Maxwell (convicted child trafficker Ghislane Maxwell’s father) was Donald Mayer Blinken, Antony Blinken’s father.
Antony Blinken is alumni to the Dalton School in NYC where dropout Jeffrey Epstein was hired to teach science by Donald Barr.
Donald Barr was Bill Barr’s father.
Epstein, a convicted child tracker as well and cohort of Ghislane Maxwell was found dead on Bill Barr’s watch in a NYC jail cell.
He did not ki­ll himself.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2024 4:51 pm

feelthebern
 April 5, 2024 4:33 pm

Crikey, the respondents lawyers are doing their job, but jeez louise.

Everything they have accused BL of doing in this case, leaking, media use, financial benefits is what BH did during the criminal case.

A point not lost on Izz ‘Onner.
Ten’s lawyer in full flight about Brucey’s outrageous behaviour in the media.
Lee interrupts … “How is that any different to what Mzzz ‘Iggins did after the aborted criminal trial, among other things stating that BL didn’t have to disclose the contents of his phone when he did?”.
Bam!

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 5, 2024 4:52 pm

Roger

 April 5, 2024 4:33 pm

IMO Wong & Albo are cynically playing to their audience in the marginals knowing little outside Australia care what we really think.

Not just the marginals.

Reports that Labor branches in western Sydney are revolting.

Labor in its current fascist incarnation is revolting. Arthur Calwell must be spinning in his grave.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 5, 2024 4:55 pm

dover0beach

 April 5, 2024 4:40 pm

What else can they know?

They’d have an idea of the dead and injured coming through their hospital of work, at the very least, and the cause of death. Doctors would be talking with heads of department, they’d also be interacting with the same in other hospitals, and so on. They might not be generating the estimates but they’d have a sense of whether the estimates were rubbish or not.

Do you seriously think that they would say anything to contradict the Hamarse “narrative” while they are still located in Gaza? Accidents do happen in such circumstances.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 5, 2024 4:58 pm

Dover I think the doctors that are in Gaza will only be the ones with sumpathies to the Pali cause. We’ve seen how the doctors in Australia went along with the covid crap so the threat of death from Hamas to go along with the narrative will focus their attention.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 5, 2024 5:00 pm

Great minds, BJ.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 5, 2024 5:08 pm

The last person to see Mossad agent Robert Maxwell (convicted child trafficker Ghislane Maxwell’s father) was Donald Mayer Blinken, Antony Blinken’s father.

Get real. He was a CROOK –

  • Maxwell’s death triggered the collapse of his publishing empire as banks called in loans. His sons briefly attempted to keep the business together, but failed as the news emerged that the elder Maxwell had embezzled hundreds of millions of pounds from his own companies’ pension funds.

https://moneyweek.com/505757/great-frauds-in-history-robert-maxwell

calli
calli
April 5, 2024 5:15 pm

I had the same idea guys, nested in replies to Dover on the last page.

interestingly, two “dislikes”.

Perhaps they didn’t like me mentioning the names of some hostages, figures we know are not fudged.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 5, 2024 5:30 pm

Worth a listen.

I was unimpressed with the pastor.

The point Esmé made went to the heart of the matter. How can you coherently express a desire for cultural Christianity when you’ve spent your life condemning Christianity as foolish? Cutting off the roots is inevitably going to destroy the culture.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 5, 2024 5:35 pm

They’d have an idea of the dead and injured coming through their hospital of work, at the very least, and the cause of death.

I would still not think that they would be in a position to tally things up. Unless they were meeting with all the doctors and they were all required to verify their numbers.

And even that would be wrong – the obviously dead would not be being brought into the hospitals. What would be the point?

calli
calli
April 5, 2024 5:41 pm

Not a single stooge wants to challenge me openly on my comments re Gaza fatality figures, the medical staff or even the hostages.

That tells me all I need to know.

Bwave lurkers.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 5, 2024 5:42 pm

Brittany Higgins’ unpublished memoir released by Federal Court

By ellie dudley

  • Legal Affairs Correspondent
  • 2:19PM April 5, 2024

Brittany Higgins and her fiance David Sharaz “war-gamed” a meeting with Scott Morrison, and discussed getting “reinforcements” from Kevin Rudd’s daughter and former NSW premier Mike Baird, according to documents released by the Federal Court.
Chapters of Ms Higgins’ draft memoir were released by the Federal Court on Friday morning, which also details a night out with former ministers Steven Ciobo, Attorney-General Christian Porter and Michael Keenan, who she describes as “the big swinging d..ks”.

She also refers to a ‘Wolf of Wall Street’-style party held in the office of then-Minister Ciobo, claiming the former MP was “lining up his staff and pouring whiskey directly in our mouths”.
The documents were released after Bruce Lehrmann’s defamation case against Network 10 and presenter Lisa Wilkinson was reopened, following fresh evidence from former Spotlight producer Taylor Auerbach.

Ms Higgins also details in the draft chapters how she reached out to Wilkinson and news.com.au journalist Samantha Maiden in order to make public her rape allegations against Mr Lehrmann.
Mr Lehrmann has always maintained he never had sexual intercourse of any kind with Ms Higgins, and the charge against him was dropped after his criminal trial was aborted due to juror misconduct.

A chapter titled “game planning for the PM meeting” Ms Higgins details how she “pounced” on Mr Sharaz “excitedly” after devising a plan to “war-game” a discussion with former Prime Minister Scott Morrison.
“David walked through the apartment door. I pounced on him excitedly, ‘once I’ve got my head screwed on straight, I know how I’m going to handle the meeting with the Prime Minister’,” she wrote.
“He put his bag down, confused by the sudden burst of energy.”
According to the court documents, Ms Higgins wrote that she and Mr Sharaz had “become quite a twosome when it came to game planning” considering her experience as a media advisor, and his as a producer.
“Together we understood how the gallery media sphere operated,” she wrote.
She said she would accept an offer to meet with Mr Morrisson, but would forward “an embargoed copy of the letter to the ‘friendlies’ in the gallery so the ideas can’t be buried by the Prime Minister’s office.”
““The letter will stipulate that the meeting will have to happen in Canberra,” I said slowly,” she wrote in the draft chapter.
“David looked at me hesitantly. I know that he hated the prospect of me ever setting foot in Parliament House ever again. Grabbing his hand, ‘if the Prime Minister doesn’t have the dignity to privately extend this olive branch, I want him to be publicly accountable for this meeting with me.’ I could see his resolve soften.”
Ms Higgins then wrote that she planned to “pre-draft a statement about the meeting asserting the items which we will discuss so the Prime Minister’s office isn’t able to spin it.”
According to the court documents, she then said she would “take reinforcements in the form of Mike Baird and potentially Jessica Rudd? I’m not sure, it needs to be bi-partisan.”
“A silence loomed. David waited as I looked up at him expectantly to get his thoughts. ‘Well, what do you think of the plan?’ Exacerbated by the whole performance which had led to no applause from my audience. David finally chimed in, ‘Oh, I was just waiting for the part where you actually say what you want to discuss with the Prime Minister’,” she wrote.
“Ah, f..k. I had war gamed the meeting. I would fly to Canberra. I would allow myself to be at the mercy of the press gallery again. Why did I have to come up with the agenda and the solutions to these deeply complex problems as well.”
In another chapter titled “The Most Wonderful Time of the Year”, Ms Higgins wrote “absurd” Christmas gifts were handed to Mr Ciobo’s office, including “Christmas cards from the Rothschilds, dates from the Prince of Qatar.”
According to the court documents, she claimed the “Team Ciobo” Christmas party saw the former Minister “lining up his staff and pouring whiskey directly in our mouths.”
“The whole event had an almost ‘Wolf of Wall Street’ style of hedonism about it,” she wrote.
In the same chapter, Ms Higgins wrote that there were “open secrets in Parliament House” including former Liberal MP Andrew Laming “playing with the buttons on my blazer and introducing me to his latest ‘intern’ at a function.”
A chapter titled “The Sitting Week Cycle” detailed the long hours Ms Higgins worked in Parliament House, “getting in the office at 6.45am and not leaving until 8pm”.
“Morning media briefings, Question time prep meeting, Sky News being on in every Coalition office 24/7,” she wrote.
She said there was a “post Question Time ritual of breaking out a bottle of wine/champagne for the office” and wrote about serving drinks to “The Big Swinging Dicks” – former ministers Ciobo, Porter and Keenan.
“First meeting with the infamous group known as ‘The Big Swinging Dicks’ (Porter, Keenan, Tudge and Ciobo) in Minister Ciobo’s office: serving them drinks then being invited to join them at Public Bar after work on Wednesday,” she wrote.
“Parliamentary Friendships Groups – the unofficial free pass to drink with lobbyists inside the building. Includes all sorts of privileges and intrigues such as native Australian animals to pet, local celebrities to meet, the Melbourne Cup trophy to hold, sports stars etc. All with canapes and drinks to ‘lobby’ the Government and staffers regarding their specific interests.”
The allegations contained in the book outline have never been tested in court and there is no independent verification of the claims made by Ms Higgins concerning the named MPs.
Chapters 11-13 details Ms Higgins’ alleged rape, starting with drinks at The Dock Hotel to which she invited “my new colleagues including my perpetrator, Bruce.”
“My date Nick being ruthlessly bullied out of dinner by my contacts at Defence. Going to the next venue 88pm (sic) with the smaller group of four, feeling extremely out of it, falling over at the bar and wanting to go home,” she wrote.
“Taxi ride to parliament and the need to ‘pick something up’. Getting ushered through security to the suite. Passing out on the Minister’s couch and becoming aware during the sexual assault. Not being able to get up from the couch and passing out again.”
Mr Higgins was paid $108,333 upon signing the book deal with Penguin Random House with the assistance of columnist Peter FitzSimons. The book deal was worth $325,000 in total.
Under cross-examination in Mr Lehrmann’s defamation proceedings, barrister Steve Whybrow suggested Ms Higgins could only write the book on the basis that Mr Lehrmann raped her.
As such, he suggested she could only push on with the book if the proceedings went in Network 10’s favour, and it was proved on the balance of probabilities Mr Lehrmann raped Ms Higgins.
He then claimed Ms Higgins had a “financial interest” in Ten winning the case, as she would get the remaining $216,667 upon publishing the book.
“I declare it now, if I have actually finished the book, I will donate or 200 and whatever, to charity,” Ms Higgins replied. “I don’t care about the money.”

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 5, 2024 5:45 pm

Indolent
April 5, 2024 5:37 pm

William Wragg admits involvement in Westminster honeytrap sexting scandal

Love is love. Even when it’s all about buggery.

Vicki
Vicki
April 5, 2024 5:45 pm

Update on address of Richard Marles last night at Sydney Institute. I thought he was a disappointment. On news items and talk shows he seemed personable and his CV suggests some intellect. However, as Minister for Defence and Deputy PM he seemed dead sh-t boring. Just a mouthpiece for some public service wank. All compiled “facts & figures”. Crap.

I would have liked to have put a question derived from a beaut piece in Quadrant last week on the dire state of the defence forces – continuing resignations, poor recruiting, internal education that allows and indeed promotes defection to industry ie they teach “economics” etc rather than military history, combat etc etc.

However, chose instead to put to him the astonishing statement of Gen. Angus Campbell a week ago that there was no place in the defence forces for “exceptionalism”, noting that it was at odds with our esteem for our VCs. He burbled on about the army being about “teamwork” like a football team!
Gerard doesn’t give you the right to reply and anyway, it was the last question of the night. I think there were a lot of Marles aficionados – because they all gave me “the look” afterwards !

Vicki
Vicki
April 5, 2024 5:49 pm

Back on the farm this arvo. Steer still suffering from leg injury… & so it goes…22ml of rain in gauge, Gez. Not as much as we anticipated. Funny in Central Tablelands – grass high, but dams low to empty. Doesn’t affect us as we have a good bore that still produced water during the Big Drought of a few years ago. But badly affecting neighbours. Fewer cattle stocks around.

vr
vr
April 5, 2024 5:51 pm

The point Esmé made went to the heart of the matter. How can you coherently express a desire for cultural Christianity when you’ve spent your life condemning Christianity as foolish? Cutting off the roots is inevitably going to destroy the culture.

Dr BG — I don’t disagree with this. I was impressed with Esme and not the pastor.

Roger
Roger
April 5, 2024 5:52 pm

The point Esmé made went to the heart of the matter. How can you coherently express a desire for cultural Christianity when you’ve spent your life condemning Christianity as foolish? Cutting off the roots is inevitably going to destroy the culture.

Quite.

But you may be surprised to learn that many Anglican clergy and laity are cultural Christians rather than believers.

Not a few bishops, even, in the CofE and here (including a former primate) have denied the resurrection of Jesus.

Yet they’ve continued the liturgies and traditions, imagining that the church could be sustained by such without the beating heart of faith to keep it alive.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 5, 2024 5:53 pm

Ronnie RAAF emerges from the air-conditioning, replete with truffles courtesy of the mess at 1.59:

Well KD, why don’t you elucidate, how matters such as humanitarian aid were conducted when you were deployed to a war zone?

I wasn’t. By the way, FIFO work from the centre of the most heavily protected defence area, and with overwhelming air superiority courtesy of someone else and an enemy lacking any significant AA capability isn’t, either.

I do not comment on the IDF’s infantry tactics because my experience and points of reference are a) dated, and b) have no relevance to the conflict underway. Your ideas (viewed from far, far away) of decades ago is similarly unreliable, but you choose to comment nonetheless.

Civil War in Israel looms.

I seriously doubt that. You may remain hopeful, though.

As I am sure you are aware, from your own time on “active service” KD, (where was that again?),

I have it quite clear, and repeatedly so, in order to avoid cloaking myself in valour and glory that didn’t belong to me that I did not serve overseas in war or warlike conditions. See above for the comparison to your good self.

these “humanitarian” agencies are registered with all sides on a conflict AND only after their safety is guaranteed by all, are they permitted to start their work.

My experiences didn’t involve humanitarian agencies at all. You must have had a great view of that process, from behind your desk with a backdrop of stacked and rolled-up doonas (a clear RAAF preference).

Not only were these latest casualties’ details and route/timings passed on to the IDF, but their vehicles were marked unmistakably, roof and doors, to avoid any such incident, which has subsequently occurred.

Mentioned before, but the dead woman was a professional handpatter who was not on her first rodeo, plus she was being paid. An occupational hazard, as even an experienced old warhorse as yourself (snork, cackle, snork) would agree.

Why, it’s almost as if, anyone who assists in Gaza, in any manner at all is treated as an Hamas fighter fighting the Israeli people.

Examples include:

Hamas fighters disguised as surgeons conducting operations,

Hamas fighters disguised as child patients in hospitals and

even three Israeli hostages, naked from the waist up, waiving a white flag and shouting in yiddish, “don’t shoot!”

Your confirmation bias is showing. Don’t ever kid yourself that you’re an outside-the-wire kinda guy.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 5, 2024 5:59 pm

Incidentally, Ronnie:

even three Israeli hostages, naked from the waist up, waiving a white flag and shouting in yiddish, “don’t shoot!”

That was a prime example, acknowledged by all and sundry, of the ‘fog of war’ concept you believe doesn’t exist.

Ronnie will be down the rissole later tonight, holding court:

‘They called me Maverick before the film came out. I’ve seen some things, man. Done some stuff.’

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 5, 2024 6:04 pm

Dr BG — I don’t disagree with this. I was impressed with Esme and not the pastor.

I agree. She waffled in an agreeable manner, but didn’t seem to stand for anything.

Like the people Roger mentions.

I approve of people who stick up for what they believe in and won’t temporise. Whether I believe it is irrelevant.

I’m a cultural Christian myself, but I can see clearly that the Christian culture needs genuine, believing Christians. And in the church in particular. The wishy-washies are useless.

calli
calli
April 5, 2024 6:07 pm

They don’t like your comments either Knuckles.

Gee it’s difficult to work out exactly who the idiots might be. 😀

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2024 6:08 pm

Johnny Rotten

 April 5, 2024 5:08 pm

The last person to see Mossad agent Robert Maxwell (convicted child trafficker Ghislane Maxwell’s father) was Donald Mayer Blinken, Antony Blinken’s father.

Get real. He was a CROOK –

On a scale of 10 – with Marty Armstrong being a 10 – how does Maxwell rate.

Vicki
Vicki
April 5, 2024 6:10 pm

Good grief – just looked at an Oz piece that appeared on my emails a few minutes ago. Guess will be in paper tomorrow. It shows the hideous degenerate nature of parliamentary life in Canberra . Maybe I am old and a prude but…..

https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/2b9cc9087083a9d088f71dce32899c1c?width=1280Chapters of Brittany Higgins’ draft memoir were released by the Federal Court on Friday morning. Picture: Colin Murty
By ELLIE DUDLEY

  • LEGAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT
  • 5:59PM APRIL 5, 2024

Brittany Higgins and her fiance David Sharaz “war-gamed” a meeting with Scott Morrison and discussed getting “reinforcements” from Kevin Rudd’s daughter and former NSW premier Mike Baird, according to documents released by the Federal Court on Friday.

Chapters of Ms Higgins’ draft memoir also detail a night out with former ministers Steven Ciobo, Christian Porter and Michael ­Keenan, who she describes as “the big swinging dicks”.
She also refers to a Wolf of Wall Street-style party held in the office of Mr Ciobo, claiming he was “lining up his staff and pouring whiskey directly in our mouths”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 5, 2024 6:17 pm

Gee it’s difficult to work out exactly who the idiots might be.

Yeah. It’s a real mystery.

JC
JC
April 5, 2024 6:17 pm

On a scale of 10 – with Marty Armstrong being a 10 – how does Maxwell rate.

Marty is a 1.. Marty was a scapegoat for withholding the AI he created in the mid 1980s from the US government.

feelthebern
feelthebern
April 5, 2024 6:26 pm

Here’s what the Oz is reporting.
38 pages from BH in all it’s glory.

Exhibit-49.pdf

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2024 6:30 pm

feelthebern

 April 5, 2024 6:26 pm

Here’s what the Oz is reporting.

38 pages from BH in all it’s glory.

How to cast the mini-series.
Britnah to be played by Rebel Wilson? Or Lizzo?
Mick Molloy as David Shiraz?

feelthebern
feelthebern
April 5, 2024 6:31 pm

She also refers to a Wolf of Wall Street-style party held in the office of Mr Ciobo, 

What she thinks a Wolf of Wall Street party was.
I haven’t seen the movie but have read both the books.
The most depraved act was the chap who paid hookers to shit on the glass coffee table while he was under it.

No one tell BH that lest she re-write history…again.

Roger
Roger
April 5, 2024 6:36 pm

How to cast the mini-series.

Lisa Wilkinson already has dibs on her part.

“I’m ready for my close-up…”

calli
calli
April 5, 2024 6:40 pm

How to cast the mini-series.

The Easter Show is over. Bother!

On second thoughts, even the Carny-Folk might baulk at the roles.

Bobtheboozer
Bobtheboozer
April 5, 2024 6:46 pm

Indolent
 April 5, 2024 3:49 pm
Marjorie Taylor Greene Speculates Speaker Johnson Is “Being Blackmailed” — “What Do They Have On Him?”

“What do they have on him?” Probably the same thing as they have Chief Justice Roberts.

Bobtheboozer
Bobtheboozer
April 5, 2024 6:49 pm

Indolent

 April 5, 2024 3:50 pm

Once Africa’s world-class city, Johannesburg is decaying before residents’ eyes

It’s a rough guess, but I’d say it’s the level of civilisation a tribal society can support. And it doesn’t look like it’s hit the bottom yet.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
April 5, 2024 6:51 pm

The most depraved act was the chap who paid hookers to shit on the glass coffee table while he was under it.

One of the Armstrong & Miller skits was describing this scenario, with reference to the “loss of trust” resulting from discovering she’d neglected to declare that she’d first removed the glass top from the frame of the table.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 5, 2024 6:57 pm

Bit over 50 mm so far today at the nearest AWS to the Cafe. At the Cafe I was swamped by wet birds, it was fun. The world hasn’t ended despite BoM’s apocalyptic warnings.

Wet Wet Wet – Strange (1997)

Roger
Roger
April 5, 2024 7:00 pm

Speaking of the Lehrmann-Higgins rolling ball of destruction…

Looks like the powers that be in the ACT are weighing up whether to instigate a corruption inquiry into Walter Sofronoff.

Roger
Roger
April 5, 2024 7:01 pm

The world hasn’t ended despite BoM’s apocalyptic warnings.

Just keep your raincoat on until given the all-clear by Mr Minns, Bruce.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 5, 2024 7:11 pm

Somehow I don’t think John was in the SAS. Anyway, good on him.

Advertising legend John Singleton has revealed why he took a full page out in The Weekend Australian, defending Ben Roberts-Smith under the heading “An Apology to Ben Roberts-Smith from a coward”, while admitting he himself “dodged” Vietnam.

“I had the chance to go to Vietnam and I got out of it. I told fibs, lies, said I was studying medicine and that got me out of the ballot,” Mr Singleton told Sky News.

The former SAS soldier said he believes it is ridiculous to demean Mr Roberts-Smith for a split life-or-death decision that was made during his deployment in Afghanistan.

“In the case of Ben Roberts-Smith I noticed that last week Peter Dutton called upon business leaders to say something publicly,” Mr Singleton said.

“When one Australian was killed, an aid worker yesterday, fearlessly, horribly – we’re paying attention, but when Ben Roberts-Smith goes on six missions to Afghanistan… he is then faced with a terrible decision,.

“It’s kill or be killed and at that moment, you’ve got to make a decision – he made a decision and now the allegation is that those were innocent victims, maybe they were, maybe they weren’t, we’ll never know.”

Mr Roberts-Smith launched an appeal to the Federal Court in a bid to overturn his damaging defamation trial loss against Nine newspapers last year.

In 2018 he sued the Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and Canberra Times over reporting of war crime allegations relating to his deployment in Afghanistan.

The lawsuit was dismissed, finding that Mr Roberts-Smith was involved in the unlawful killings of four detainees in Afghanistan
“Instead of… an all time hero, he’s now branded as a war criminal,” Mr Singleton said.

“I just think it’s absolutely ridiculous and we demean a great hero and the people who demean him, particularly the leaders of the Defence force.

“And you wonder why there’s no one joining the army anymore and more people leaving than joining.”

Oz

Crossie
Crossie
April 5, 2024 7:22 pm

Donald Mayer Blinken, Antony Blinken’s father.

Antony Blinken is alumni to the Dalton School in NYC where dropout Jeffrey Epstein was hired to teach science by Donald Barr.

Donald Barr was Bill Barr’s father.

I read in Regency literature that England’s aristocracy of the time were known as The Ten Thousand. I get the sense that the same could be said of the present elites, there probably are that many of them and all seem to be intermarried and connected. Trump’s only problem is that he is not one of them. The other thing is that all the wannabes like the politicians, CEOs and the judiciary who are causing us such grief will do anything to get into that magic number.

Muddy
Muddy
April 5, 2024 7:22 pm

The world hasn’t ended despite BoM’s apocalyptic warnings.

I think you’ll find that it has, Bruce – multiple times – but the BigJabJob mediated the worst of the effects and saved us from a terrifying fate. It keeps on giving and giving, but we selfish sods don’t show the gratitude to our superiors they deserve.

Bobtheboozer
Bobtheboozer
April 5, 2024 7:30 pm

Children should not be exposed to LGBTIQA+ ideology at school, according to the Family First party.

Reports of bestiality being discussed with year nine girls at Renmark High in South Australia this week as part of an LGBTIQA+-inspired “respectful relationships” class show how out of touch education departments are with mainstream parents.

Parents are the primary educators of their children – it is not for schools to induct them into the radical sexual ideas of the LGBTIQA+ political movement.

https://www.familyfirstparty.org.au/the_in_lgbtiqa_means_sex_with_animals_children_told?

Delta A
Delta A
April 5, 2024 7:34 pm

I approve of people who stick up for what they believe in and won’t temporise. Whether I believe it is irrelevant.

You would make a fine Christian, Beaugy: intelligent, analytical and a good heart. I shall continue praying that, one day, you shall join us.

Last edited 11 days ago by Delta A
Pogria
Pogria
April 5, 2024 7:35 pm

Vicki,
if you are still reading, I meant to post this yesterday regarding your steer and the Vet visit. 😀
Make sure you have sound.

https://twitter.com/TheFigen_/status/1775630106062409792

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 5, 2024 8:00 pm

You would make a fine Christian, Beaugy: intelligent, analytical and a good heart. I shall continue praying that, one day, you shall join us.

This is where we get to test the power of prayer, Delta.

I may never find it in my conscience to join you, but I certainly approve of the way most Christians behave. In the main, the true believers are very obviously good people. That’s important.

rosie
rosie
April 5, 2024 8:14 pm

After telling me it would take 21 to 45 days to resolve my disputes ie the transactions made by my Lyonaisse pickpocket amis Commbank contacted me the very next day to advise that all of them had been resolved in my favour.
I don’t know why, perhaps the appalling and conflicting advise I received from them regarding both my options to access funds and the status of the €1000 brasserie charge was enough for them to make a quick decision.
I was hoping the brasserie that tried it one with two €1000 transactions in quick succession got a hard look at by someone but probably not.
Going to block cash withdrawals from the credit card next time I travel and take a back up visa debit card.

Roger
Roger
April 5, 2024 8:18 pm

Parents are the primary educators of their children…

This is one of the first – and key – battles the Left won.

They’re now mopping up by going after Christian schools using the pretext of anti-discrimination legislation. Next will be homeschooling.

cohenite
April 5, 2024 8:31 pm

A good analysis of the E. Jean Carroll case. Trump’s lawyer explains simply how the Judge stopped her defending Trump against the mad bitch; and stark raving mad she is. Some great videos showing this and Carroll lying about the attack. Rape is sexy she says.

E. Jean Carroll GETS SUED & PANICS After She FINALLY ADMITS That Her & Judge Kaplan LIED On TRUMP – YouTube

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 5, 2024 8:34 pm

She also refers to a Wolf of Wall Street-style party held in the office of Mr Ciobo, claiming he was “lining up his staff and pouring whiskey directly in our mouths”.

Remember these people write our laws and are our moral betters…

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 5, 2024 8:45 pm

Remember these people write our laws and are our moral betters…

I’m sure I have lots of moral betters, but not, I am confident, in the parasitic classes.

Vicki
Vicki
April 5, 2024 8:48 pm

Pogria – thanks for that lovely clip! My steer is enjoying being spoilt too much to try that move!

Seriously, I have no idea how long it will take him to recover or if complete recovery is possible. But we will try.

it is fascinating how strong the herd instinct is, though. We are keeping the rest of the herd in an adjacent paddock where he can see them but they can’t steal his hay!

Mind you, we charged up the electric fence to keep the herd in &, of course, I forgot about it & got zapped with 8,000 volts!

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 5, 2024 8:58 pm

Canbra is a toxic parasite on this wonderful country. Consider also some of the horrors it has ‘exported’ such as the not-so-happy hooker, Sam Rae, the other Sam, Susan Lay and Penny Sharpe.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 5, 2024 9:13 pm

This is where we get to test the power of prayer, Delta.

So, do those prayers work? Or, do they just make you feel good? A bit like a comfort blanket when young and living in the USA in the 1950s.

Fantasy stuff. The Universe does not work on prayers.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 5, 2024 9:32 pm

So, do those prayers work? Or, do they just make you feel good?

There was an interesting experiment conducted on praying for the sick. They divided the sick into three categories, the control group who were not prayed for, then two matched groups, those who were prayed for and were told they were being prayed for, and the last who were prayed for and didn’t know they were being prayed for.

Then they looked at the death rates in the three groups.

They found that the first and third groups had the expected death rates. The second had a slightly higher death rate. Knowing that people were praying for you to live had a net bad effect. Perhaps it told the prayees they were in a bad way which depressed their will to live.

I think the main effect of prayer is on the people praying. And not a bad one.

Delta A
Delta A
April 5, 2024 9:34 pm

Fantasy stuff. The Universe does not work on prayers.

I suspect that you, also, need a sincere prayer or two.

Rabz
April 5, 2024 9:35 pm

Enough of all the serious contemplation of the myriad of profound challenges facing what was known as the West, Cats. 😕

Rock Lobsters don’t give a rodent’s backside … 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2024 9:39 pm

Fantasy stuff. The Universe does not work on prayers.

It doesn’t work on fake AI being touted by a convicted fraudster, either.
Let’s pull your blind faith apart, shall we?

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 5, 2024 9:43 pm

One time Lieboral fukboi Christian Porter swallowed by the Brittany Blob. Luckily no reputational damage done this time.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 5, 2024 9:43 pm

Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2024 9:39 pm

Sure.

This is Blind Faith though – Maybe too many paras for you though. Paras and not prayers. Dipstick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoSn2Y-b6wI

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 5, 2024 9:44 pm

Enough of all the serious contemplation of the myriad of profound challenges facing what was known as the West, Cats

It’s plain that there is an unholy coalition of lunatics, perverts, and power-hungry bumwipes doing their best to make our lives unpleasant, with a high degree of overlap in the three categories.

It is also plain that the great majority of people are in none of the categories. We have the numbers. We should not, therefore, despair. Our job is to alert the people to the problem and crush the evil shits ASAP.

Indolent
Indolent
April 5, 2024 9:48 pm

He was too embarrassed to introduce her to his Muslim family.
Somali refugee allegedly strangles pregnant Swedish girlfriend in honor killing

Indolent
Indolent
April 5, 2024 9:50 pm
Baba
Baba
April 5, 2024 9:54 pm

Seattle trans criminal defense attorney Stephanie Mueller is representing a far-left activist named Iris Boardman who was charged for trying to shut down a city council meeting demanding more housing for illegal migrants.

Rabz
April 5, 2024 9:57 pm

Tomorrow night’s Radio Show, Cats – your favourite three rock/pop songs* ever, from last Century. Cut off point being 11:59pm, 31 December 2000.

Show will be posted from 7:00pm (AEDT – yes, still)

I’ll be attending an (allegedly) important event with various Cats and possibly hitching a ride on a duck** to get there, it seems. 😕

*Here’s a possible one, prepared earlier …

**Not a frozen one, hopefully …

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 5, 2024 10:02 pm

Blinken Pushing Ukraine into NATO to Start WWIII
Blinken says that Ukraine will be joining NATO, and the Article of NATO clearly states that nobody can join NATO who is at war. Blinken knows that Ukraine is about to fall, so he is pushing that to hell with the rules; NATO must accept Ukraine now so that they can declare World War III against Russia – IMMEDIATELY!

A vote for Biden in November is a vote for World War III, and everything we have accomplished with peace will be thrown out the window for a bunch of NEOCONS in cahoots with the Climate Change nut-jobs who are running the White House. I do not see any hope of stopping this war. You can write to your Congressman and Senator, but they no longer represent us.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/blinken-pushing-ukraine-into-nato-to-start-wwiii/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 5, 2024 10:12 pm

Pissing down here at the Cafe so here’s another one from a wet band.

Wet Wet Wet – With A Little Help From My Friends (1988)

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 5, 2024 10:16 pm

Rabz
April 5, 2024 9:57 pm

Tomorrow night’s Radio Show, Cats – your favourite three rock/pop songs* ever, from last Century. Cut off point being 11:59pm, 31 December 2000.

Here is my number one –

https://youtu.be/EJRdDhnTRoo?list=RDEMpqGrdaY2k-kQDJffYBw-1w

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 5, 2024 10:19 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggu0ZqqBq4k

Scots version of “I would walk 500 miles.” Not a bad piece of music.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 5, 2024 10:23 pm

Rabz
April 5, 2024 9:57 pm

Tomorrow night’s Radio Show, Cats – your favourite three rock/pop songs* ever, from last Century. Cut off point being 11:59pm, 31 December 2000

And here is number 2 –

https://youtu.be/lU5tfYYNyY4

Rabz
April 5, 2024 10:27 pm

Let’s have a caption contest, Cats! 🙂

Nein Airhead Reporterette*: “So, Taylor Aerbach, it’s been alleged you’re an amoral incompetent utterly useless coke hoovering alcoholic narcissistic imbecile who’s about to do something inexcusably ridiculous – so why exactly are you here, I asks ya?”

The Aerbach: “I’m going to produce and tender irrefutable evidence to the court that Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself, I tells ya!”

Two captions required per entry, Cats.

*BIRM

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 5, 2024 10:27 pm

Rabz
April 5, 2024 9:57 pm

Tomorrow night’s Radio Show, Cats – your favourite three rock/pop songs* ever, from last Century. Cut off point being 11:59pm, 31 December 2000

And number 3 is –

https://youtu.be/DtJzr1Wcy_s

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 5, 2024 10:46 pm

The Aerbach: “I’m going to produce and tender irrefutable evidence to the court that Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself, I tells ya!”

Two captions required per entry, Cats.

I provide the following as evidence. The Deep State did it. Nuff’ said –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38mE6ba3qj8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1tjQqWqqAA

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 5, 2024 10:57 pm

stephen rice Taylor Auerbach: One-man wrecking ball bent on revenge leaves reputations bruised, battered

  • 10:20PM April 5, 2024

By Friday lunchtime, Taylor Auerbach’s dirty work was done.
The former Seven producer and current one-man wrecking ball walked out of the witness box leaving behind him a trail of destruction that will likely have little effect on the defamation case but will leave lasting scars on those he has smeared.
Auerbach has used the court to settle scores with his enemies, some of them recently his close friends and colleagues.
That was eminently predictable from the moment Ten decided Auerbach’s private war was the perfect opportunity to reopen the case and slide in a bit more evidence it thought would damage Bruce Lehrmann’s credibility.
But it should also have been patently obvious to the network that the unguided Auerbach missile would wreak vast collateral damage on many others – including at least one Ten was honour-bound to protect.
Did the network really not know when it unleashed this monster that it would humiliate its own principal witness, Brittany Higgins, smear the reputation of one of Sydney’s most respected media lawyers and leave several Seven Network journalists eviscerated without the right to challenge uncorroborated evidence?

Rabz
April 5, 2024 11:43 pm

Did the network really not know when it unleashed this coke and alcohol fuelled monster that it would humiliate its own principal witness, Bratney Hoggins, smear the reputation of one of Sydney’s most respected media lawyers* and leave several seven network j’ismists eviscerated without the right to challenge uncorroborated evidence?

Obviously not, but taxpayers have some right to demand some additional entertainment given what this massively destructive tar baby blob from outer space has cost and will continue to cost them.

Remember, there are (at least) four more pending legal actions arising from the monstrous momentum of this unrelenting shitshow.

*Akin to “one of Sydney’s most respected used car salesmen”, “one of Sydney’s most respected colourful racing identities”, “one of Sydney’s most respected television game show hosts, etc … 😕

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 5, 2024 11:58 pm

A video and a song for the True Believers. Keep praying and it might happen –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtdRv6GT9Zg

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 6, 2024 12:48 am

The wonderful Julie Covington –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oZS0tP0oP0

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 6, 2024 12:49 am

Teh Paywallian carried an extraordinary column from Gavin Silbert KC, a former chief crown prosecutor on the state of the Victoriastani justice system. It defies imagination that this could occur in an Australian democracy.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 6, 2024 1:00 am
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 6, 2024 1:22 am

Rabz
April 5, 2024 11:43 pm

Did the network really not know when it unleashed this coke and alcohol fuelled monster that it would humiliate its own principal witness, Bratney Hoggins, smear the reputation of one of Sydney’s most respected media lawyers* and leave several seven network j’ismists eviscerated without the right to challenge uncorroborated evidence?

Obviously not, but taxpayers have some right to demand some additional entertainment given what this massively destructive tar baby blob from outer space has cost and will continue to cost them.

Welcome to the modern ‘Horse Trailer’ as QE2 used to pronounce it. How clever of her Maj.

Keep paying yer’ taxes people.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 6, 2024 1:30 am

Bruce of Newcastle
April 5, 2024 10:12 pm

Pissing down here at the Cafe so here’s another one from a wet band.

Still pissing it down here in Sin City. I did try saying a prayer to stop the rain but it hasn’t worked (yet). So I’m starting on building the Ark later on this weekend.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 6, 2024 1:34 am

And it is not only raining BUT – For all the Shirt Lifters –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5aZJBLAu1E

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 6, 2024 1:48 am
Bobtheboozer
Bobtheboozer
April 6, 2024 6:05 am
Bobtheboozer
Bobtheboozer
April 6, 2024 6:26 am

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKWFR4lXUAEdLkx?format=jpg&name=900×900
How Climate Change is hitting Trans sex workers in Indonesia.
No further comment needed.

Last edited 11 days ago by Bobtheboozer
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 6, 2024 9:14 am

After the self immolation of the witness yesterday in the Lehrmann trail, heres the only relevant bit picked out..

In Ten’s submission they allege that Lehrmann breached his Harman undertaking by airdropping documents and providing messages from the criminal trial.
The alleged supply of any documents to Seven is relevant to the defamation case because Seven, Lehrmann and Lehrmann’s counsel have all denied such material passed between them.
If proven, the evidence could go both to Lehrmann’s credibility and raise questions as to whether he abused the court process, which may affect what damages he is awarded should his claim be successful.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 6, 2024 9:32 am

dover0beach

 April 5, 2024 11:04 pm

Do you seriously think that they would say anything to contradict the Hamarse “narrative” while they are still located in Gaza? Accidents do happen in such circumstances.

What about when they’re in back in Europe, the United States, Asia?

There are large Islamic diasporas (diasporae?) in each of those regions.

Bobtheboozer
Bobtheboozer
April 6, 2024 12:48 pm

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/04/thoughts-from-the-ammo-line-521.php
A wonderful word picture from Powerline:

Now let us raise a glass to the left-behinds, the don’t-counts who are pulling the cart filled with the Entitled.

You are The Invisible who carefully wove that cultural fabric that is being torn asunder by narcissists who have never made anything in this world except trouble. 

Bobtheboozer
Bobtheboozer
April 6, 2024 1:13 pm

Can someone tell me how to use a GRavatar on this site – I can’t get past an old email address, and Gravatar refuses me to add another email. I’ve deleted cookies to no avail.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
April 6, 2024 1:27 pm

Following on from H B Bear’s observation. In today’s Oz.

Sictoria is financially, morally and legally stuffed and, imho, beyond redemption because the rot is too well entrenched to be excised.

GAVIN SILBERT 
Victoria’s justice system has been routed by police failures
APRIL 5, 2024

The description of Victoria’s legal system as being in a parlous state by Catholic Archbishop of Sydney Anthony Fisher seems to be, regrettably, an accurate description by Australia’s leading Catholic cleric, who graduated in law from Sydney University and practised at Clayton Utz prior to taking holy orders. 

The description is based on the miscarriage of justice resulting in the conviction of the late Cardinal George Pell, which was only put right by the High Court of Australia after the cardinal had spent 13 months in prison.
It is difficult to imagine a more devastating criticism of the majority of the Victorian Court of Appeal than that delivered by a unanimous bench of the High Court when it granted special leave to appeal, set aside the appellant’s convictions and entered verdicts of acquittal stating there was a significant possibility that an innocent person had been convicted because the evidence did not establish guilt to the requisite standard of proof. In doing so, the court criticised the submissions of the Victorian Director of Public Prosecutions as specious.
It’s an important reminder that however parlous we think the state of things are in the ACT and NSW, they are considerably worse in Victoria. 
In November 2020 the Honourable Margaret McMurdo delivered a report of a royal commission into the management of police informers by Victoria Police. The commission went for 129 days of public and private hearings and made 111 recommendations. Commissioner McMurdo found the use of Nicola Gobbo as a police informer was a systemic failure and said the conduct of some officers could not have happened without a critical failure of leadership and governance in Victoria Police. She recommended the appointment of a special investigator to determine if Gobbo or any police officers broke the law. The commission cost Victorian taxpayers approximately $100m. 
Following the commissioner’s recommendations, the Victorian government appointed eminent jurist and former High Court judge Geoffrey Nettle as special investigator in June 2021 under the Special Investigation Act 2021. Nettle assembled a staff of counsel assisting, a legal team and investigators but had no power to prosecute.
The Victorian Director of Public Prosecutions refused to lay charges on the special investigator’s behalf. This notwithstanding, Gobbo was prepared to plead guilty to various charges and give evidence against relevant police officers. The office of special investigator cost taxpayers some $20m before being repealed by the government in February 2024. 

No public explanation was given for the DPP’s refusal to indict. The DPP could have asked Nettle for his strongest charge and proceeded to prosecute, leaving further charges to await the outcome of that charge; this was not done. Further, the DPP could have referred the brief of evidence received from Nettle to an out-of-state DPP, such as the NSW DPP, as has been frequently done in the past to provide transparency; this was not done.
The lack of transparency and the failure to provide the public with an explanation is a blight on the legal system. 
Innocent people were convicted and imprisoned. Some have had their convictions set aside. Faruk Orman was convicted of murder in 2009 and sentenced to 20 years’ imprisonment with a non-parole period of 14 years. Gobbo acted for Orman at a time when she acted for the principal witness against him. 
There could be no doubt that as a result of Gobbo’s conduct Orman suffered a substantial miscarriage of justice and on July 26, 2019, after serving 10 years of his sentence, the Court of Appeal quashed his conviction and entered a judgment of acquittal.
Similarly, Tony Mokbel was convicted in March 2006 of importing cocaine into Australia and sentenced to 12 years’ imprisonment with a non-parole period of nine years. 
In December 2020, after he had served the whole of his sentence, his conviction was quashed on the basis of a substantial miscarriage of justice because Gobbo was informing on him while at the same time representing him. Mokbel remains in jail on other charges in respect of which he is appealing on similar grounds. Other appeals remain on foot.
Gobbo, despite her willingness to plead guilty, was never charged. Senior members of the Victoria Police hierarchy found by the special investigator to have broken the law have never been charged. The present Chief Commissioner was present and oversaw the interview of the late Cardinal Pell at the Vatican.

A criminal justice system is dependent on a police force that is independent of political interference and willing to enforce the law without fear or favour. It is also required to enforce the law in accordance with the oaths of office taken by members on appointment. Victoria Police has proved incapable of fulfilling these requirements. The use of Gobbo as an informer was so obviously in breach of the law as to corrupt every investigation in which her services were used.
The conduct of Victoria Police during the Covid lockdowns is well remembered and does not need repeating. There is one memorable image on Facebook of police arresting a pregnant Ballarat woman in Gestapo-like fashion for alleged breach of Covid regulations, which was widely circulated around the world. 
The conduct of police in relation to recent civil protests, refusing to prosecute obvious offences under the Summary Offences Act, is an obvious example of police failing to carry out their sworn duty.
In my view, the incompetence of the Director of Public Prosecutions was further emphasised on February 14 when His Honour Justice Lex Lasry aborted a part heard murder trial. His Honour came on to the bench and advised the court that he would be resigning his commission the following day. He said that almost 12 months before, he had stayed an indictment presented by the Director of Public Prosecutions in a matter of Simiona Tuteru. The case involved regulatory charges against the owner of a vehicle that had killed four police members on the Eastern Freeway in Melbourne. On August 17, 2023, the Court of Appeal overturned His Honour’s ruling. 
His Honour, some eight months after staying the indictment, discovered that the DPP had made a formal complaint about him to the Judicial Commission of Victoria. During that eight months His Honour had continued to deal with matters in which the DPP was a party in ignorance of the complaint. Clearly, had His Honour been aware of the complaint he would have recused himself from those cases until the complaint against him had been finalised.

Since Justice Lasry’s resignation he has received glowing public support from the present Chief Justice of Victoria and from her predecessor. Justice Lasry has served with distinction as a Supreme Court judge since 2007. He is a person of the highest integrity. The complaint by the DPP was unusual and unnecessary when she could have raised the matter with the Chief Justice. 
It has since become known that the DPP has lodged a second complaint against Judge Geoffrey Chettle, a long-serving and highly regarded member of the County Court, in very similar circumstances to the Lasry complaint.
The failure to charge high-ranking members of police command when the special investigator believed there was substantial evidence they had committed criminal offences has infected the rank-and-file of Victoria Police such that public confidence and trust has been eroded. 
Added to this, the apparent incompetence of the independent prosecution service is eroding public confidence and trust in the whole of Victoria’s criminal justice system. Archbishop Fisher’s description could not have been more accurate.

Gavin Silbert KC has practised as a barrister for 40 years. He has practised in every jurisdiction and in all courts in the judicial hierarchy. Between 2008 and 2018 he was chief crown prosecutor for Victoria.

Bobtheboozer
Bobtheboozer
April 6, 2024 7:10 pm

I’ve been watching this bloke and his engineering shop for a couple of years, and he does some interesting stuff. The best part is that he explains just what each part is and where it goes/what it does on the mining equipment.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
April 7, 2024 3:55 pm

Will Auerbach join the other D list ‘celebrities’ in the jungle next year or the following?

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