Open Thread – Weekend 3 Aug 2024


Carnation, Lily, Lily, Rose, John Singer Sargent, 1886

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Roger
Roger
August 4, 2024 5:07 pm

Over the last few days, in Manchester, London, Liverpool, Sunderland and other English towns and cities…

Add Belfast to that list.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 4, 2024 5:10 pm

OCO on the subject of Makaratta

Also, why does such a body need to exist for the purpose of ‘truth-telling’?

It must exist if the truth is to be restricted to “their” truth, not the truth. Such a body would ensure that only “tales my Nanna told me” are heard.

calli
calli
August 4, 2024 5:10 pm

I stand corrected. This tweet is less ambiguous than the one discussed yesterday.

She’s conflating two different issues. Stupid and wrong.

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1819007216214573268

calli
calli
August 4, 2024 5:12 pm

Bother. Almost made page podium. Too slow.

I didn’t want my historic retraction hidden at a page end.

😀

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 4, 2024 5:16 pm

In the photo, Baluchi looks extremely malnourished and was believed to be located at the CIA’s black site in Bucharest, Romania, which the US Government refers to as Location No 7 or Detention Site Black.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/u-s-military-court-releases-first-photo-prisoner/
He’s not malnourished – he has refused to exercise and has no muscle tone. He has adequate subcutaneous fat – while you can count his ribs, there is still enough fat to make them indistinct.

Roger
Roger
August 4, 2024 5:21 pm

ABC gaslighting young Australians with a story about how great it will be to live in a share house for your whole life.

Cassie of Sydney
August 4, 2024 5:30 pm

Add Belfast to that list.

I have seen a pic that came through overnight, of Catholics and Protestants protesting together.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 4, 2024 5:32 pm

Equality of the sexes has always been a denial of reality. The Human Race is composed of two specialist sexes – men and women. When we demand equal outcomes in every instance, we get a social disaster.

Discuss.

Muddy
Muddy
August 4, 2024 5:36 pm

As much as I am unconvinced that the Left-Right political continuum is still applicable, the term ‘far right’ makes sense if it is being viewed not from the centre, but from the extreme left who are so enamoured by it. From the dim periphery where the oxygen is thin, any political philosophy to their right sits at distances between ‘reasonable’ and ‘bloody hell, that’s a hike!’

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 4, 2024 5:36 pm

Check out C.L.’s outstanding piece at his blog
“Educating Mr Uhlmann”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2024 5:37 pm

Greens’ support for ‘fanatics’ ‘endangers Jews’: Council of Australian JewryMatthew Denholm
6 minutes ago

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The Greens has provided the use of office space to a group that publicly asserts Israel has “no right to exist”, prompting outrage from Jewish groups.
Tasmanian Palestine Advocacy Network has posted a statement on its Facebook page that calls on Israelis to leave Israel, which it says is “an abomination that has no right to exist”.
“It is the ethical duty of every person who identifies as ‘israeli’ (sic) to resist also,” says one of these statements, which the group attributes to a pro-Palestine writer.
“Leave ‘israel’ (sic) – make the settler colonial project untenable and unsustainable. Denounce it, refuse to call it ‘israel’ (sic) or any iteration that denies Palestinian existance (sic).
“Call it for what it is: a settler-colonial abomination that has no right to exist.”
According to other Facebook posts, the group late last month held a “crafting day to paint new signs for our weekly rallies” at the Tasmanian Greens’ office in ­Argyle Street, North Hobart.
This post thanks the party and Greens senator Nick McKim “for loaning us this space” on a regular basis. “Your regular support of our crafting days is extremely ­appreciated,” the group posted on July 16.
These events were about “refreshing our stock of signs for folks to use” at protests, it said.

The Council of Australian Jewry accused the Greens of aiding a group that was publicly advocating the “ethnic cleansing” of Jews from Israel.
“Calling for Israelis to leave their country is a call for the removal of one ethnic group from a territory – that is called ethnic cleansing,” said the council’s Alex Ryvchin.
“The Greens are now providing material support to groups that want to ethnically cleanse Jews from their homeland.
“The links between the Greens and extremist groups need to be fully investigated and the senator (Nick McKim) should be held accountable for assisting those who harm communities and undermine the peace and stability of our country.”
Mr Ryvchin said the Greens were “openly colluding with anti-Israel fanatics and doing it on the public dime”.
“Since October 7, the Greens have openly backed some of the most odious elements in our ­society, and in doing so, have ­endangered Jewish Australians and given legitimacy to anti-­Semitism,” he said.
Senator McKim was away and uncontactable. Comment was sought from the Greens and the pro-Palestine writer.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2024 5:40 pm

Rosemary 2412

17 minutes ago

Greens’ support for ‘fanatics’ ‘endangers Jews’: Council of Australian Jewry

I do not know what is worse.
It is hard enough to encourage my Jewish friends to come out for a coffee on a sunny afternoon in Sydney- they no longer frequent the coffee shops at Circular Quay or want to be seen near the Opera House, but now to read that an Australian political party is providing the pro-Palestine movement shelter and support is beyond belief and beyond heartbreak.

Cassie of Sydney
August 4, 2024 5:45 pm

She’s conflating two different issues. Stupid and wrong.

Correct, which was the essence of my badly constructed comment yesterday. I like Rowling, I like Bindel, I like Burchill and I like all the others, I respect much of what they say and I’m glad they’re fighting this, but this conflation shows they all still have their heads stuck in the concrete of rabid feminism, which has been a direct contributor to this transversion nonsense.

Kellie-Jay Keen saw the light about feminism years ago. She no longer calls herself a feminist and she will correct anyone who calls her that. Keen knows it isn’t men who are to blame for this transperversion lunacy, it’s women.

JC is right about Rowling using disgusting tropes about men.

Roger
Roger
August 4, 2024 5:51 pm

Greens’ support for ‘fanatics’ ‘endangers Jews’: Council of Australian Jewry

Dear Mr Ryvchin,

The Greens are fanatics.

Yours,
Roger

Muddy
Muddy
August 4, 2024 5:59 pm

When does ‘reporting’ on known terrorists become ‘advocacy’ (via omission) and then ‘material support?’

I mean this as a serious question.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 4, 2024 6:11 pm

The real purpose of Makaratta was to provide jobs for about 200 freeloading spongers and grifters whose main purpose in life would be to sustain a bureaucracy that became bigger every year.

Eventual size of about 2000 people with the Big Men at the top.

Armed with the most effective weapon of all these days – the ability to howl “wacist!” at any critic, it would have been with us forever.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 4, 2024 6:11 pm

Via Zulu

“Call it for what it is: a settler-colonial abomination that has no right to exist.”

In the 7th Century, Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula started a “settler colonialism” enterprise that took over, not just Israel, but also most of North Africa and part of what is now Turkey and the Balkans.

They also invaded Iberia, and moved into southern France before ultimately being expelled from there and other colonial conquests around the Mediterranean and into Eastern Europe.

The Arabs are the “settler colonialists” there, and now in other parts of the broader West. Time for them to go back to their original homeland.

Last edited 3 months ago by Boambee John
Miltonf
Miltonf
August 4, 2024 6:17 pm

I think it is/was even more sinister than that Top Ender- I think it was to rip the guts out of land title in Australia.

Last edited 3 months ago by Miltonf
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 4, 2024 6:18 pm

Spiked interview with David Starkey 3 days ago. Starmer is playing this true to his form. He’s not going to bend and the aft of new laws will be used against dissenters. I don’t think this will end well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srz2JRNxVg0

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 4, 2024 6:23 pm

I don’t either RD- going down a hi tech Ceau?escu path. I knew Starmer was a stinker but I’m surprised how quickly it’s become obvious and how the soft handed turd doesn’t even hide his contempt for regular British people.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 4, 2024 6:25 pm

Just from stuff I’ve read here and there, I think it’s quite possible that MI5 is stirring things up to fit the establishment narrative.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
August 4, 2024 6:36 pm

TE you’re thinking too small.
Just like the NDIS was always designed to grow logarhythmically, “Makarrata” is being designed to become the Ministry of History.

John H.
John H.
August 4, 2024 6:43 pm

Top Ender

 August 4, 2024 6:11 pm

The real purpose of Makaratta was to provide jobs for about 200 freeloading spongers and grifters whose main purpose in life would be to sustain a bureaucracy that became bigger every year.

Eventual size of about 2000 people with the Big Men at the top.

Armed with the most effective weapon of all these days – the ability to howl “wacist!” at any critic, it would have been with us forever.

It is just another guilt rant on whitey. They should learn some history. Islamic militantism, the multiple commands in the OT to kill everyone but keep the maidens for yourselves which unsurprisingly is mirrored in recent genetic studies arguing that when the Yamnaya moved from the Caucasus region into northern Europe they killed most of the men, kept the women. The atrocious behavior of the Aztecs, the American Indians fighting among each other and keeping black slaves, the Zulus dominating their region. They should be grateful it was the English because they were so weak and backward someone was going to take it all from them.

Makka
Makka
August 4, 2024 6:59 pm

The Arabs are the “settler colonialists” there, and now in other parts of the broader West. Time for them to go back to their original homeland.

For this catastrophe, blame must go to those responsible. Political elites across the globe have invited/enabled millions of moslems in and allowed them to remain. In Europe, they were invited in by likes of Murkel and Blair. The Scandies fell over themselves to get more “refugees” in. France is overrun with moslems. This is not stupidity- it was by design to get the voteherds in and remain in power one way or another.

Treason, plain and simple.

JC
JC
August 4, 2024 7:02 pm

I used to think return on capital was terrible in Europe and Japan. They now have a competitor.

This outward expansion is a reflection of the dwindling allure of China’s domestic economy. It no longer grows as zippily as it once did. It is also fiercely competitive, plagued by price wars in industries from cars to wind turbines. Even excluding the troubled property sector, the average return on invested capital for China’s listed non-financial firms was a meagre 4.9% last year, compared with 6.6% for European companies and 8.7% for American ones.

The faltering domestic economy has induced ever more Chinese firms to “go out”, to use a slogan with which the government cajoled them to invest abroad in the early 2000s. Many would like to increase sales in rich countries, which account for three-quarters of consumer spending outside China. Expanding in those markets, however, has become tricky for Chinese firms as the political mood has shifted against them. Chinese carmakers have been slapped with hefty tariffs on both sides of the Atlantic. Western politicians grumble about Shein and Temu, two fast-growing Chinese e-emporia. TikTok, a short-video app, faces a ban in America unless its Chinese parent, ByteDance, sells it.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 4, 2024 7:07 pm

Re: Trump bailing out (or not) of the agreed debate.
Based on quotes from:

Here are the events put into chronological order.

  1. [May 2024] Trump and President Biden, when he was still in the race for the White House, agreed in May to participate in two presidential debates. The first was in June and hosted by CNN, and the second was scheduled for Sept. 10 which would be hosted by ABC News.
  2. [July 24, 2024] A federal judge in Florida on Wednesday allowed former President Donald J. Trump’s defamation suit against ABC News to move forward, rejecting an effort by the television network to dismiss the litigation as spurious. The lawsuit, filed in March, argued that ABC’s star anchor, George Stephanopoulos, defamed Mr. Trump by saying on the air numerous times, in a March 10 segment on “This Week,” that the former president had been found liable for raping the writer E. Jean Carroll.
  3. [July 2024] Last month, Harris accused Trump of walking back his previous agreement to the Sept. 10 presidential debate, telling reporters, “I’m ready.”
  4. [2 August 2024] Trump stated “The Debate was previously scheduled against Sleepy Joe Biden on ABC, but has been terminated in that Biden will no longer be a participant, and I am in litigation against ABC Network and George Slopadopoulos, thereby creating a conflict of interest”

So it really depends on whether you accept the conflict of interest as a credible reason for cancelling. I’d say the network having ongoing litigation could either actually or apparently prejudice the way the moderators carry out their role. It’s fair to find a new host.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2024 7:07 pm

Home Affairs opted not to cancel the visas of 66 criminals – including child sex and rape offenders – under Direction 99 between March 2023 and March 2024, with new Immigration Minister Tony Burke facing fresh demands from the Coalition to review the department’s decisions.

From the Oz- awaiting approval.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2024 7:11 pm
Cassie of Sydney
August 4, 2024 7:16 pm

Katie Hopkins perfectly sums up the state of ‘Batshit Bonkers Britain’ and ends with a final comment about pole vaulters and penises!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXEcEtMEaqg

Now that the Olympics have a ‘woman bashing’ category, perhaps they can also introduce a penis vaulting category!

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 4, 2024 7:22 pm

Wally Dali: “Makarrata” is being designed to become the Ministry of History.

Yes. Would be re-writing history as fast as possible along the Brucie Pascoe lines: incredibly civilised agriculture fantastic everything.

“He who controls the past controls the future.”

MatrixTransform
August 4, 2024 7:26 pm

improvements to the Olympics to renew public interest:-

  1. Steeple-chase … if a runner falls shooting them is optional
  2. Replace boxing with name-calling
  3. Decathlon and other field events to be done naked
Rosie
Rosie
August 4, 2024 7:27 pm

“new men’s rights movement”
I think Rowling is pointing her finger in a very specific direction and giving her history it’s pretty obvious that the ‘new men’s rights movement’ is the trans movement.

Rosie
Rosie
August 4, 2024 7:33 pm

And it’s pretty obvious from the responses that most people figure she’s talking about trans rights.
Which is not to claim that the boxer is trans, but that trans demanding access to female spaces has allowed this particular debacle to emerge.
Interesting that Seymana who has been proven to have DSD and actually fathered a child is still demanding to complete as a woman without having to reduce his testosterone levels.
Of course his testosterone isn’t really the issue, it’s his male puberty.
Many twitterers claiming that certain nations seek out dsd men to train and compete in women’s sports.
It’s just a new form of cheating.

Rosie
Rosie
August 4, 2024 7:37 pm

Very sick of the Michael Phelps arguments too.
Of course physical attributes give advantage!
The issue is whether biological males, incomplete as they may be should be allowed to complete against women.
Us weidos think the answer is simple.

Muddy
Muddy
August 4, 2024 7:42 pm

Just watching a GBNews piece about the riots, and a former Scotland Yard bloke has made a rather incendiary suggestion – framed as a question, naturally – that British soldiers could be deployed to maintain civil order.

As I’m lead to believe that the Brit forces are much smaller in number than they used to be, I wonder how that will be received by the public, and by the troops themselves? The Ghurka Regiment fighting Spurs fans, anyone? I guess that would be one way of finally disintegrating one of the last national institutions.

m0nty
m0nty
August 4, 2024 7:44 pm

So it really depends on whether you accept the conflict of interest as a credible reason for cancelling. I’d say the network having ongoing litigation could either actually or apparently prejudice the way the moderators carry out their role. It’s fair to find a new host.

That would be fair if that was the line Trump was pushing, Berka.

However, Trump decided to unilaterally declare Fox News as the new moderator and choose the location himself. This gives the game away as a cynical tactic to back out of the previously agreed-upon debate, and sour any negotiations on another one.

Trump does not deserve the opportunity to arrest his slumping polls.

John H.
John H.
August 4, 2024 7:47 pm

Rosie

 August 4, 2024 7:37 pm

Very sick of the Michael Phelps arguments too.

Of course physical attributes give advantage!

The issue is whether biological males, incomplete as they may be should be allowed to complete against women.

Us weidos think the answer is simple.

The optimal solution should be that when a person with an athletic background chooses to transition post puberty they sign a declaration that they will not engage in certain types of sport or levels of sport. They can play club games etc but that’s it.

The problem with the inherent genetic advantage argument is that even Phelps spent decades training and did not completely dominate the field to the extent seen in some transtwits. Phelps’ records will be broken by other men but trans achieved records will never be broken by women.

Bazinga
Bazinga
August 4, 2024 7:55 pm

I’m inspired to write a book. It will be called Der Starmer – If the Jackboots Fit. It will be about a high society ponce with political dreams and a Fascist brain.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 4, 2024 7:59 pm

I asked m0nty if he could provide us with a clip of Kamala sounding lucid and intelligent. Just to offset all the others we are seeing. So far he hasn’t been able to find one.

Bazinga
Bazinga
August 4, 2024 7:59 pm

Re: Trans in sport. Watched a Netflix flick from. Brazil called Bionic. Depressing but it shows a way the trans records may be broken

cohenite
August 4, 2024 8:04 pm

Dickless opines:

However, Trump decided to unilaterally declare Fox News as the new moderator and choose the location himself. This gives the game away as a cynical tactic to back out of the previously agreed-upon debate, and sour any negotiations on another one.
Trump does not deserve the opportunity to arrest his slumping polls.

As stated ALL of Trump’s previous debates against demorat vermin have been under their terms. All 3 of them: shrillary and the perverted corpse twice. It is of course entirely reasonable for Trump to demand the 4th debate should be at a marginally objective outlet. Personally I’d have Judge Janine and Gutfeld asking the questions; cackles would last 30 seconds.

The ABC dispute adds a further reasonable reason not to debate at this demorat propaganda outfit.

As to slumping polls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toTfUn1GRuE

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 4, 2024 8:09 pm

From tonight’s ABCess news.
The Online Hate Prevention Institute is calling for the powers of the eSafety Commisioner to be expanded. They want the government to be able to issue a takedown notice for content that targets groups without targeting an individual.
Catallaxy was not amongst the social media platforms surveyed, still some of you might like to know this info.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 4, 2024 8:12 pm

That’s impressive work against the 13%

—–

Steve Inman:

They tried to jump him and failed miserably
https://rumble.com/v59jj5o-they-tried-to-jump-him-and-failed-miserably.html

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2024 8:23 pm

Surely Trump has to comply with the obligation under the Constitution to debate Kamal-toe?

MatrixTransform
August 4, 2024 8:27 pm

content that targets groups without targeting an individual

what… like advertising does?

FMD, I share the planet with some retards

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 4, 2024 8:35 pm

Elect socialist government, get socialism:

It has taken a while for it to be extracted, but the cat is finally out of the bag. Last week, Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves laid the groundwork for a gruesome attack on people’s personal wealth – an assault she had defiantly refused to confirm during weeks of fervent electioneering.

Quelle surprise: Money Mail warned it would happen as soon as Rishi Sunak called the General Election in late May and the likelihood of a Labour government became blindingly obvious.

Using the excuse of a £22billion black hole in the country’s public finances, Reeves warned that this financial chasm would have to be filled. ‘There will be difficult decisions around spending, around welfare and around taxes,’ she said, the results of which will form the backbone of the Budget scheduled for October 30.

This hole will not be filled through higher income taxes or hikes in either National Insurance contribution rates or VAT – taxes that Labour pledged not to touch in its election manifesto. Nor through pay restraint in the public sector – Reeves has awarded public sector pay rises worth £9.4billion.

No, the hole will in part be funded by the imposition of means testing for winter payments and horrible taxes on our ability to build personal wealth – retirement money designed to ensure our later years are not undermined by financial insecurity and we are not dependent upon state benefits.

Plain and simple, a vicious attack on thrift is coming our way.

Although the precise details of the assault will not be known until Reeves’ Budget, it is not hard to work out where it will be targeted.

It is likely that the ability to save via company or personal pensions will be compromised. Also, wealth we pass on to loved ones when we die is likely to attract more tax, as will the capital gains we make from the sale of shares, second homes or buy-to-let properties.

Are these justified taxes to correct the Conservatives’ alleged mismanagement of the economy? No. This is Labour showing its true colours. It is payback time.

For all of Reeves’ ‘city cred’ and Sir Keir Starmer’s smarm, new Labour 2024 believes it is time for a dose of good old socialism.

More at the Daily Mail

JC
JC
August 4, 2024 8:37 pm

DrBeauGan

 August 4, 2024 7:59 pm

I asked m0nty if he could provide us with a clip of Kamala sounding lucid and intelligent. Just to offset all the others we are seeing. So far he hasn’t been able to find one.

He did . Fatboy posted this one to show she’s a genius .

132andBush
132andBush
August 4, 2024 8:39 pm

MatrixTransform
August 4, 2024 7:26 pm

improvements to the Olympics to renew public interest:-

Skeet surfin?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=skeet+surfin

cohenite
August 4, 2024 8:41 pm

The lady’s name is Michaelah Montgomery; she’s black, she’s beautiful, she’s smart and she endorses Trump. Outstanding:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM1tcl8_flM

MatrixTransform
August 4, 2024 8:44 pm

Skeet surfin?

excellent

exactly the sort of thing we need

time to reach out to Val Kilmer

Salvatore - Iron Publican
August 4, 2024 8:52 pm

Two-tier Keir

1st class work, whoever dreamed that one up.
(Seen on English social media)

132andBush
132andBush
August 4, 2024 8:55 pm

cohenite
August 4, 2024 8:41 pm

The lady’s name is Michaelah Montgomery; she’s black, she’s beautiful, she’s smart and she endorses Trump. Outstanding:

Well that was a blast of fresh air! (and booty)

Indolent
Indolent
August 4, 2024 9:43 pm

Excellent point – Starmer is acting just like Justin Trudeau.

Why Does Starmer Hate Us So Much?

Rosie
Rosie
August 4, 2024 9:48 pm

“The optimal solution should be that when a person with an athletic background chooses to transition post puberty they sign a declaration that they will not engage in certain types of sport or levels of sport. They can play club games etc but that’s it”
No, it’s at club level incompetent male players put women at most risk and remains fundamentally unfair.
It’s why my daughters gave up mixed netball, which had nothing to do with trans just men playing netball as a contact sport.
Also refer the ‘flying fruitbats’who compete in some league in NSW.

Rosie
Rosie
August 4, 2024 9:52 pm
MatrixTransform
August 4, 2024 10:02 pm

incompetent male players put women at most risk and remains fundamentally unfair

women these days, heh?

all of a sudden you had to switch from being a witch-queen type of feminist

to being the waif-ish, helpless kind of feminist

you still riveting rosie?

I only ask because it sounds like you’ve retired

Cassie of Sydney
August 4, 2024 10:02 pm

No, it’s at club level incompetent male players put women at most risk and remains fundamentally unfair.

Yes.

Digger
Digger
August 4, 2024 10:07 pm

When Monty posts, assume he’s lying.

nah, you don’t have to assume anything. If the dickhead is posting here, he is gaslighting, lying and baiting people to bite.

That is how he gets his kicks.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
August 4, 2024 10:11 pm

The MSM & FBI would both be about 12 hours into parallel diggings for dirt on Michaelah Montgomery.
… or at least, something they can use to knock the shine off her wholesomeness.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 4, 2024 10:15 pm

The ABC version of events

Police hurt in protests across England sparked by misinformation in wake of stabbing attack

The riots, involving hundreds of anti-immigration protesters, erupted after false information that the suspect in last week’s knife attack at a children’s dance class in Southport was a radical Muslim migrant spread rapidly on social media.

Police have said the suspect, Axel Rudakubana, 17, was born in Britain but protests by anti-immigration and anti-Muslim demonstrators have continued, descending into violence, arson and looting.

Wait, stop everybody, settle down, it’s okay, the radical muslim attacker was born here, so there’s no problem. LOL.
Very quick with the “online misinformation” angle. The ABC just can’t stand competition on that!
These protests will be used to argue for more social media regulatory powers, just watch.

OTOH the looting and torching is despicable and reeks of the presence of opportunists.
As always the cops are on the sharp end of a bad situation.

On Friday night, hundreds of anti-immigration demonstrators in Sunderland threw stones at police in riot gear near a mosque, before overturning vehicles, setting a car alight and starting a fire near a police station.

A very natural question to ask is “Why?” Do any of you get the impression that the false information was not the only reason for these outbursts?

Cassie of Sydney
August 4, 2024 10:24 pm

MatrixTransform
 August 4, 2024 10:10 pm

Did you read my comments? I don’t absolve women or feminism of anything.

Rosie
Rosie
August 4, 2024 10:24 pm

That’s right, women are responsible for men invading women’s sports.
It might surprise some people that women don’t all think the same thinks.
Remember it was men that gave us the vote.

Cassie of Sydney
August 4, 2024 10:27 pm

OTOH the looting and torching is despicable and reeks of the presence of opportunists.

I agree however I also remember the left’s excuses for the looting and torching that happened in 2020.

But of course, it’s always different when they do it. And who can forget the descriptor….. ‘mostly peaceful’.

Cassie of Sydney
August 4, 2024 10:36 pm

As always the cops are on the sharp end of a bad situation.

Once upon a time I would have agreed with that statement but no more. The cops have caused this bad situation.

And here in Oz we are not that far behind. We have police here who have adopted the same tactic of two tier policing. Whilst many Christian rioters from the Wakeley Church stabbing have been hunted down and charged, not one leftist or Muslim from the Opera House riot of Monday night October 9 is yet to be charged.

I now have absolute contempt for the police.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 4, 2024 10:43 pm

The UK Narrative; a complicated problem made simple:

A polarisation engine’: how social media has created a ‘perfect storm’ for UK’s far-right riots

For Jacob Davey, the director of policy and research for counter-hate at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue in London, it was “a perfect storm”, with a rising far right in the UK emboldened by recent mass demonstrations and far-right figures such as Tommy Robinson “replatformed” on X while measures to hold hate in check are rolled back.

The issue is that although academics, researchers and policymakers increasingly understand the problem, almost nothing has been done to address it.

“And every year that this doesn’t get fixed, no real laws are put in place against social media, it gets significantly worse,”

The other problem contributing to the “perfect storm” is that there is no politically acceptable solution to managing an alien culture that seeks to consume its host.

Get ready to see further restrictions on civil liberties ‘for the greater good’.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 4, 2024 10:52 pm

Yeah:

A $200m program to improve women and girls’ sporting facilities is yet get any cash out the door almost a year after being announced.

The Albanese government’s ‘play our way’ program was unveiled in the midst of the Matildas’ fever during the 2023 FIFA Women’s World Cup tournament.

The grants, spruiked as a “game-changer”, aim to boost participation by tackling the systemic problems facing girls when they enter sport.

Have no phucks to give but 3 paragraphs in, you get the idea.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 4, 2024 11:26 pm

Postcard #2 from Switzerland

Top Ender writes:

Boarded the Glacier Express train, out of St Moritz to Zermatt. Eight hours but that time in a scenic train with big windows either side and half of above kills air travel, basically because a) you can move around a lot more, and b) great scenery.
 
I am concluding that Switzerland is the Japan of Europe. Everything is clean, everything works on time and as it should, and the people seem happy, co-operative and hard-working. (From Mrs TE: it is incredibly beautiful) It does seem to have arrived at a model of being independent yet safe, and prosperous without being wasteful.

One of the worst things though is that Swiss restaurant/café prices are incredibly high. One meal we had consisted of two main courses: one osso bucco and one small pork chop. Accompanied with only polenta on the first, and basic ratatouille (mostly green peppers) on the second – about A$100. Their food variety is not very extensive: fondues, rosti, cheese and more cheese, sliced meats, chicken, sausages – we are very lucky in Oz. Funnily enough alcohol price are cheaper than home.
 
Zermatt is at the base of the famous Matterhorn Mountain (4,478 metres 14,692 ft) in Switzerland. We took cablecars/train to the top and did a walk. Our included ½ Swiss Pass covered 50% of cost, but to give you an idea, is still was 132 Swiss Francs )(about $200) to complete. Amazing views and technology – holographic paraglider flight up the top – Mrs TE’s first.
 
Onto Montreux which was the scene of the composing of one of the most famous lead-in guitar chords in history: Deep Purple’s “Smoke on the Water” – I remember it well from the first double-LP I ever bought; the band’s Made in Japan from the mid-70s. Here’s what seems to be one of the more accurate accounts of the event:

https://musicfans.stackexchange.com/questions/9799/what-was-the-story-behind-deep-purples-smoke-on-the-water

The band Queen had a studio there and are made much of…we got a photo with Freddy’s sculpture on lakeside. 
 
Just left Interlaken, where we had an amazing trip up Jungfrau the highest accessible point in Europe at 3,454 metres. The latest technology, the Eiger Express cablecar (cost 470mCHF) gets you there very fast and because of the strength of the tricable, it requires very few towers. There are lots of included activities to do at the top – ice palaces, view points, a walk on a glacier, snow sports etc. Although it was 0 degrees, we were lucky with the weather again with amazing views.
 
We will miss Switzerland’s wonderful fresh water – you can fill your bottle at troughs and fountains. Some of our hotels advised the best drinking water is from the tap. 55% of country is mountainous. French language predominates in the south, German in the north. The abundance of chairlifts/cablecars/cog trains/tunnels is overwhelming – they are everywhere – the cost of their infrastructure must be incredible. Then there are the roads, which are extremely well-made and efficient.

One story we heard in a few places was that a lot of the small villages realised in the 1800s that if they wanted to stay where they were, yet still get the benefits of electricity and other arriving technologies they would have to have something to sell – and so their tourism sector was born.

If you haven’t visited Switzerland, don’t miss it. Along with Malta, one of the standouts of our trip so far.

Little Gidding
Little Gidding
August 4, 2024 11:28 pm

I refuse to bow to the left and not watch the Olympics. It’s what they want. There have been some amazing sporting moments. The Australian women’s water polo team just beat Hungary and finishing top of their group is just one example of underdogs doing well. The young lass from St Lucia winning the women’s 100m sprint will probably be the highlight though. Even with all the lefty crap the sport has still been good.

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 4, 2024 11:38 pm

Remember it was men that gave us the vote.

Biggest mistake we ever made.

Rosie
Rosie
August 4, 2024 11:44 pm

It’s another windy wild day in Skibbereen, rain earlier but holding off for now.
I missed the bus to Schull, bank holiday instructions, very confusing, sent me to an unmarked bus stop on the edge of town so I watched it sail by on the other side of the road.
Oh well.
I visited the Chapel Lane cemetery instead where many famine victims are buried in a pit.
It seems a point of great shame to be buried without a coffin or even a shroud back then.
Some mention at the Heritage Centre of the cunning ‘Gregory’s Law’ whereby families had to abandon their miserable leaseholds to enter the workhouse.
Given the appalling conditions within (overcrowding meant diseases like typhus and typhoid were rife) I’m very grateful that one of my ancestors at age 17 was discharged from the workhouse in 1947 (not in Cork) to take her chances as an ‘Earl Grey’ girl.
https://www.rte.ie/history/famine-ireland/2020/0805/1157526-that-diabolical-system-evictions-in-famine-ireland/

Rosie
Rosie
August 4, 2024 11:49 pm

“To deny them the opportunity to do what every other citizen can do and often does do is a cruel and unnecessary curtailment of freedom.
Trans can play as much sport as they like, against their own kind, other men.
What is cruel is expecting women and girls to have men now free to go into women’s toilets, changing rooms and dominate them in sports.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
August 5, 2024 12:13 am

Locking up a bunch of Five dollar drug dealers – marijuana dealers – is not tough on crime. Harris did nothing about the gangs, did nothing about the illegals.

Bernard Kerik, New York City Police Commissioner 2000 – 2001.

Rosie
Rosie
August 5, 2024 2:49 am

I didn’t shift the goal posts.
I don’t care what they wish or claim or hope men cannot makeover into women.
The physical differences that make them men should always exclude them from playing women’s sports.
Maybe there is some merit in the argument that this about men in general seeking to dominate women.
“It’s your problem”
“Don’t be cruel to trans”

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Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 5, 2024 7:11 am

Someone wanna tell this bottle blonde bimbo with bolt ons that turfing liquids more than 100mL is still a common practise in a lot of Asian airports and for once probably not no-star’s fault…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13706765/Aussie-OnlyFans-Jetstar-flight-Bali-Perth.html

Great scam in Bangkok, people get to the gate to have their duty free grog confiscated by airport staff under the same rule. Which ends up back in the King Power stores.

mem
mem
August 5, 2024 7:41 am

So much for the renewable energy revolution. At 7.20 am the AEMO site shows that SA is producing absolutely no wind or solar and Victoria only 2%. Across the the whole eastern grid comprising five states, there is a measly total of 2% solar and 4% wind. Coal power is generating the bulk of output to meet demand in NSW, Vic and Qld and is being exported to other states to keep the lights on. Gas and Liquid Fuel( a term used to cover for dirty diesel, kerosene or other fuel) is being used in SA to keep the lights and heaters on. Wholesale prices have spiked to mindboggling levels and consumers will carry the burden.
https://aemo.com.au/en/energy-systems/electricity/national-electricity-market-nem/data-nem/data-dashboard-nem

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