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Chris Kenny has been putting up some good columns for the Oz though. Stuck on a horse-drawn buggy as world…
Clennell is no loss.
If they don’t get them all, start razing Gaza to the ground.
Sadly, this was predictable from the time of Al Grassby.
If one were to look at it rationally and objectively and without ANY preconceived notions of morality, Absent notions of God. Mao is the supreme and ultimate outcome of human evolution.
He probably father a dozen children whose descendants are alive and well today and in favourable social positions in the society which is the most populous on the planet and is within reach of becoming its most powerful.
Mao utterly destroyed a civilisation that had lasted 3000 years and replaced it with his own preferred model.
Atheists: behold the ultimate expression and most powerful affirmation of your ideas.
And as we know from nature, where one organism finds a path to success, others will follow and improve upon it.
Mao won’t be the last atheist revolutionary to reform society in the image of his own mind.
In your evolutionary terms, these are what are called “winners”.
Like Genghis Khan?
Yes in evolutionary terms, but not in historical.
An even better example.
Some huge portion of current humanity is descended from a mass murdering maniac,
Serious skills on show.
BEST BREAKING HIGHLIGHTS of Red Bull BC One 2023 World Final Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TtY-FN2htE
IIRC circa 3 million German servicemen were taken p.o.w. by the Soviets, circa one million of whom died in captivity.
IIRC, at war’s end 270,000 German civilians were taken by the Soviets as forced labour, as reparation for Germany’s war sins, of which circa One in Four died in captivity.
(Rochus Misch, in his book, mentions fleeting contact with some of these)
AFAIK most of the civilian forced labour survivors were repatriated by 1950.
I’ve no idea if this was due to money changing hands, as German finances & German control of Germany were very different in 1949 than in 1956.
This is a topic which is difficult to find much about in the English language.
Became interested in it when one of the regulars in the pub (a German immigrant) mentioned that his father was taken p.o.w. by the Russkis & did not return home until 10 years after the war ended.
Until he turned up one day out of the blue, his family had no idea what had happened to him.
what bilge
you’re actually typing in it right now mate
termites build mounds to nurture their young
bees build hives for the same reason
humans are the only species where politics trumps biology
the thing is … nurturing morons who turn toxic necessitates a purge from time to time
who’s to say it isn’t natural?
Context. The commonly accepted understanding of natural environment is not the CBD. Cohenite was clearly referencing the differences between modern society and indigenous communities.
The rest of your comment is your usual nonsense.
You guys worship this “modern society” don’t you?
You understand that Ancient Rome considered it’s cities the height of modernity and sophistication.
As they watched humans torn apart by animals for entertainment.
I’m I doing semantic gibber wrong am I?
… who knew heh
Meme
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I can’t tolerate statins.
@VigilantFox
If one were to look at it rationally and objectively and without ANY preconceived notions of morality,
Why would anyone do that?
Christianity founds its morality on God. The reason you shouldn’t be an arsehole is that God doesn’t like arseholes and won’t let them join Him in heaven when they die.
Buddhism founds its morality on the observation that nobody likes arseholes, not even the arseholes, and that being one makes you despise yourself, which precludes a happy and contented life.
I simplify so as to make it easier for you to grasp the principle.
Mao was a colossal arsehole. Not to be emulated.
By what standard?
Yours?
That doesn’t matter to anyone other than you.
Thomas Aquinas would agree with the position you attribute to Buddhism, Dr Beau. It’s classical Aristotelian virtue ethics.
NT bases key for US: Deterrence starts at the Top (End)Ben Packham
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Australia has become “the central base of operations” for America’s military to deter Chinese aggression in the Indo-Pacific, the chair of the US House of Representatives’ powerful foreign affairs committee has declared.
Republican congressman Michael McCaul told The Weekend Australian a recently announced boost to US bomber deployments to Australia’s Top End bases would enable America to project power across the region to prevent future wars.
Mr McCaul also hailed an AUKUS breakthrough on Friday allowing licence-free technology transfers. He declared the partnership vital to convince Chinese President Xi Jinping that an invasion of Taiwan was a “not a good idea”.
He said the security pact would survive a Trump presidency, arguing that the AUKUS concept predated the Biden administration and had “very, very strong bipartisan support”.
Speaking in Sydney after a 10-day visit, Mr McCaul said Australia’s geography offered key advantages to the US as it sought to deter Chinese aggression.
“It is the central base of operations in the Indo-Pacific to counter the threat,” he said.
“If you really look at the concentric circles emanating from Darwin – that is the base of operations, and the rotating (US) forces there are providing the projection of power and force that we’re seeing in the region.”
Defence Minister Richard Marles and Foreign Minister Penny Wong signed off last week on more frequent rotations of nuclear-capable US bombers and fighter jets through Northern Territory bases, amid growing American concerns over the vulnerability of its bases in Guam, Japan and The Philippines to Chinese missiles. The move prompted a fierce backlash from Labor elder Paul Keating, who warned Australia was being turned into “the 51st state of the US”, and would be dragged into conflicts by its “aggressive ally”.
Mr McCaul said closer military ties between the nations would “provide more deterrence in the region and project power and strength so we don’t have a war” He said rotational deployments of US nuclear submarines from Perth from 2027, along with AUKUS’s Pillar II technology-sharing partnership, would strengthen the allies’ deterrence against Chinese threats.
“Time is really of the essence right now, as Chairman Xi has announced his 2027 project,” Mr McCaul said, referring to Mr Xi’s call for Chinese forces to be ready to invade Taiwan within three years.
McCaul is a politician who was playing to his audience (in this case The Weekend Australian). He is also a RINO idiot who couldn’t find his arse with both hands.
If there is a “central base of operations for America’s military to deter Chinese aggression in the Indo-Pacific” it is located on Okinawa or Guam, where there is a full USAF Wing, nuclear submarine base, naval stations and a Marine Division.
A rotation to Darwin consisting of a composite Battalion of US Marines with detachments of aircraft in support have been maintained for a few years now. That is the limit of US “boots on the ground” in the NT except for exercises.
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Raygun, after her joke of a performance has made millions look up real break dancing.
What do marijuana, the death penalty and fracking have in common? Harris shifted positions on them
WHO Orders Government to Prepare for Emergency LOCKDOWNS Due to New Strain of Monkeypox
If they try it, I’ll defy it.
I would think they would each have a truck full of dirt on each other.
The untold story of how Nancy Pelosi forced Biden to quit with a brutal phone call and humiliating ultimatum that ruined 50 years of friendship… and has left Jill and Joe furious
Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored
I’d volunteer for the firing party that shot that filth at dawn – the pedophile, I mean, not the fair Kamala – and go on to eat a hearty breakfast, with every evidence of enjoyment.
By what standard?
Yours?
Everybody’s. Unlike you I think morality is an objective fact. Not everyone is moral, of course.
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Mao was a winner.
In evolutionary terms that is all that matters.
Unless you have some other standard than your worthless (in evolutionary terms) subjective judgement of who is and who isn’t an arsehole.
See if you can spot the inconsistency in your argument above.
Hint:
Objective facts can be objectively proved.
Without banging on like an idiot, simply and precisely point to the best evidence you have that there is an objective morality that most every human subscribes to.
Mao was a winner.
In evolutionary terms that is all that matters.
We have evolved a moral sensibility which also matters. Maybe if the arseholes win the evolutionary game, we’ll lose it, but atm it still makes a big difference.
See if you can spot the inconsistency in your argument above.
There isn’t one.
I used to think you were moderately intelligent, but I’m starting to have doubts.
You’re losing, you always, always resort to demeaning the other person when you have no answer.
It’s both amusing and a bit pathetic.
How’s morality turning out in Nigeria?
Another set of charges against this piece of work for having it off with a pupil:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-16/nsw-sydney-teacher-charged-sexual-offences-child-abuse/104236154
The evil Seven network have reported that she is a state school teacher posted to Lurnea High. Do why haven’t the ABC and the Herald? If it was a religious school you could bet your bottom dollar that they’d be all over it.
Like mutley over a another box of Krispy Kremes.
Objective facts can be objectively proved.
Without banging on like an idiot, simply and precisely point to the best evidence you have that there is an objective morality that most every human subscribes to.
‘Subscribes to’ is a category error. I’ve observed human beans over some time, and I have come to the conclusion that all of them I’ve studied have developed some sort of moral sensibility. A bit primitive in some cases, but they have a sense of some actions being shitty and contemptible, others not.
I’ve also noticed that most human beans have a sense of humour. Also an aesthetic sense. There is a fair amount of agreement on what is funny and what is ugly. It’s not by any means unanimous, there are large numbers of foreigners who laugh at Mr. Bean. That makes a sense of humour and an aesthetic sense real and not just my opinion. They are objectively real.
Havent you noticed these things?
So your answer to “point to an objective morality” is
”I can’t”.
Where is this moral sensibility located?
Is it encoded in genes?
Is it chemical, socially constructed or inherent in the material basis of the universe?
Do other animals share this moral sensibility? Or have they evolved a range of moralities to suit their niche, seperate and different from human morality?
How far back in evolutionary human development must we go that the morality is no longer the human one we accept?
If we breed a human in total isolation from existing humans, would he exhibit this moral faculty?
Is the rat morality wherein the mother rat eats her young if she feels like it superior or inferior to human morality? Or just different?
If it evolved, presumably we can evolve past it?
What right do you have to stand in the way of the evolutionary development of a new and superior man?
How can you know that Mao and his type aren’t simply an evolutionary progression? Other than his success or failure to pass on his genes, by what standard do you judge the utility of the morality, other than the survival and multiplication of those who hold it?
Or is it that everything you have written so far tonight is equivalent to “There are things I like and I’m going to call that morality and refuse to admit the consequences of my atheism”.
If someone is successful in completely hiding their “arsehole” behaviour, even from themselves, such that they get away with doing all sorts of “immoral” things at even greater benefit to them than if they had conformed to morality, can’t we say this is an evolved form of camouflage, and therefore both good and successful? Isn’t this precisely how that works in a universe devoid of God or any other standard seperate from what Dr BG likes?
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This is a reach. Pentagon and Ukies don’t know this incursion will cause a delay as long as 3 months. It could be dealt with more swiftly.
Reaching for the moon. The arrival of weapons helped. The loss of the s400 units in Crimea may have required more defenses there leaving an open door for Ukraine.
That Russia hasn’t already repelled the incursion raising questions about logistics. Why isn’t their air force pummeling the invaders? They have aircraft very capable of that and I haven’t seen any evidence that Ukraine have SAMs in the area.
The other massive reach is that the Pentagon had anything whatsoever to do with it.
The last thing the Biden admin wants the US voter thinking about right now, other than the non-existant southern border and crippling inflation, is the Ukraine money black hole.
It is in their best interest for the operations in Ukraine to go into quiet stasis for the duration of the presidential campaign.
How’s morality turning out in Nigeria?
There’s nothing like religion for selling people on doing shitty things.
Rome was the first Christian state. Violent.
When Europe was dominated by Christianity. Violent
Christianity actively promoted antisemitism.
Catholics and Protestants have a long history of mutual emnity.
The most Christian Caucasian nation is the USA. It is the most drug addled, has the highest rates of mental illness, psychotropic drug use, psychotherapy, for decades engaged in military adventurism and had a horrendous civil war over slavery.
Christianity helped but it is not a critical substrate for a successful society.
If someone is successful in completely hiding their “arsehole” behaviour, even from themselves,
Kidding yourself is widespread but not very successful. Deep down you know you’re doing it.
You still haven’t been able to point to an objective basis for morality, above “it’s wot I like”.
I think it isn’t me who is kidding themselves about human nature.
Let us imagine a tribe of head hunting cannibals who have a society bound together by predatory sexual bastardisation of the younger tribe members.
Let’s imagine that the tribe has existed for centuries and successfully survived and even conquered surrounding tribes.
Whose morality would triumph if we dropped BG in their midst?
The tribes, or BGs pissweak, shiftless bastardisation of Christianity.
While the left continue to desperately dig to find dirt on VP candidate Vance guess what pops up?
Once again the lesson that lying about the act is often worse than the act itself is taught.
“Hearing loss” caused his .128 blood alcohol content when tested by the cops. Righto, you lying sacks of rodent excrement.
Let’s imagine that the tribe has existed for centuries and successfully survived and even conquered surrounding tribes.
Whose morality would triumph if we dropped BG in their midst?
The tribes, or BGs pissweak, shiftless bastardisation of Christianity.
I’ve never felt tempted to convert the heathen, but some have done so rather effectively. Maybe the missionaries appealed to an innate moral sense?
having it off
The word is “raping”.
As compared to what?
https://www.malone.news/p/monkey-pox
Not losing sleep over monkeypox. Perhaps we need a government sponsored TVad series to rev up the fear. Where’s Phatty Adams these days?
If they hadn’t manisfested all the things that BG likes in the centuries prior, it couldn’t have been very fukking innate, could it?
The Second Largest Economy in the World Is Sick, and the Communists Can’t Figure Out How to Cure It
May they live in interesting times.
From Lying Flat to Let it Rot the youth have had enough of the 996 life. That may be China’s biggest problem.
To summarise:
Whose morality would triumph if we dropped BG in their midst?
The tribes, or BGs pissweak, shiftless bastardisation of Christianity.
That depends, how purty is his mouth?
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