Serious skills on show.

BEST BREAKING HIGHLIGHTS of Red Bull BC One 2023 World Final Paris

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TtY-FN2htE

@KylieJaneKremer

BREAKING NEWS UPDATE

Not only is Crook’s body GONE – cremated, poof, no longer exists.

It turns out the FBI cleaned up biological evidence from the crime scene, which is unheard of…

“The FBI released the crime scene after just 3 days, much to everyone’s surprise,” according to @RepClayHiggins

“Cops don’t do that, ever”

@GVDBossche

Yes, I agree. Back in 2022, when we saw significantly increased spread of avian flu and monkey pox, I explained how C-19 vaccine-mediated immune dysregulation facilitates asymptomatic transmission of these bugs by vaccinees. As this leads to increased infectious pressure, the incidence of symptomatic disease would increase too (which is what we see today). Host-pathogen ecosystems are linked by population-level immunity. When nature will put an end to the C-19 pandemic (which it will do!), a sound balance of these ecosystems will be restored, but it will come at a substantial price in terms of human lives. In the meantime, vaccination against collateral damages (including but not limited to the spread of avian flu and monkeypox) will only make things much worse. Blind vaccination strategies that ignore the complex immune dysregulation caused by the insane C-19 mass vaccination program are like flushing the toilet with manure…

What do marijuana, the death penalty and fracking have in common? Harris shifted positions on them

I would think they would each have a truck full of dirt on each other.

The untold story of how Nancy Pelosi forced Biden to quit with a brutal phone call and humiliating ultimatum that ruined 50 years of friendship… and has left Jill and Joe furious

Mao was a colossal arsehole. Not to be emulated.

Mao was a winner.
In evolutionary terms that is all that matters.

Unless you have some other standard than your worthless (in evolutionary terms) subjective judgement of who is and who isn’t an arsehole.

I think morality is an objective fact.

Objective facts can be objectively proved.
Without banging on like an idiot, simply and precisely point to the best evidence you have that there is an objective morality that most every human subscribes to.

We have evolved a moral sensibility which also matters.

Where is this moral sensibility located?
Is it encoded in genes?
Is it chemical, socially constructed or inherent in the material basis of the universe?
Do other animals share this moral sensibility? Or have they evolved a range of moralities to suit their niche, seperate and different from human morality?
How far back in evolutionary human development must we go that the morality is no longer the human one we accept?
If we breed a human in total isolation from existing humans, would he exhibit this moral faculty?
Is the rat morality wherein the mother rat eats her young if she feels like it superior or inferior to human morality? Or just different?
If it evolved, presumably we can evolve past it?
What right do you have to stand in the way of the evolutionary development of a new and superior man?
How can you know that Mao and his type aren’t simply an evolutionary progression? Other than his success or failure to pass on his genes, by what standard do you judge the utility of the morality, other than the survival and multiplication of those who hold it?
Or is it that everything you have written so far tonight is equivalent to “There are things I like and I’m going to call that morality and refuse to admit the consequences of my atheism”.
If someone is successful in completely hiding their “arsehole” behaviour, even from themselves, such that they get away with doing all sorts of “immoral” things at even greater benefit to them than if they had conformed to morality, can’t we say this is an evolved form of camouflage, and therefore both good and successful? Isn’t this precisely how that works in a universe devoid of God or any other standard seperate from what Dr BG likes?

Let us imagine a tribe of head hunting cannibals who have a society bound together by predatory sexual bastardisation of the younger tribe members.
Let’s imagine that the tribe has existed for centuries and successfully survived and even conquered surrounding tribes.
Whose morality would triumph if we dropped BG in their midst?
The tribes, or BGs pissweak, shiftless bastardisation of Christianity.

Rome was the first Christian state. Violent.

When Europe was dominated by Christianity. Violent

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As compared to what?

Maybe the missionaries appealed to an innate moral sense?

If they hadn’t manisfested all the things that BG likes in the centuries prior, it couldn’t have been very fukking innate, could it?

To summarise:

1. Your fellow atheists, Mao, Stalin etc understood that absent God, there was only pure power and the use of violence that mattered.
2. Your own scientific alternative to God, evolution is rooted in the belief that the only thing that matters is the survival of the fittest. Indeed, that is the very mechanism posited as the creator of all the diversity of life.
3. You are unable to point to any basis for morality other than that it is somehow inherent to human nature. Which reduces to “whatever people think is moral, is”. Which is both circuitous and reductionist. And absurd.
4. All your stated observations as to what you consider moral are exactly those that follow on from Judeo- Christian teaching. You would be completely unable to discover any of it had you not been raised in a time and place where that still partly held sway.
5. As and if the memory of those Christian teachings fades, so too will the practice of that morality which you recognise and feel comfort in. Increasingly you will find yourself in the world I describe, the one in which only power and violence matter.
6. There is no socialist or communist utopia in the offing, human development is not a linear progression to a kinder and gentler more moral existence.