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H B Bear
H B Bear
November 4, 2024 5:10 pm

Teh Paywallian Margin Call column suggests the NACC quietly at work in the background. Will anything come of it?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 4, 2024 5:23 pm

They will try, it might take the Supremes to sort it.UNLESS it is so big, it cannot be rigged.

The problem isn’t size, it’s the distribution of cheating and the time it takes to demonstrate that cheating materially affected the outcome.

A few big cheats: easier to identify cause and effect from a legal perspective.

When you have a wide open and highly variable electoral system, yielding hundreds of cheats – from State legislators, down to county and booth officials – the task of establishing the facts (particularly in the face of legal resistance and obfuscation) and stitching the narrative together to a ‘Supreme Court Overturns a Result for the First Time’ legal standard is pretty much impossible in any timely way.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 4, 2024 5:33 pm

Well, they said it would happen.

I didn’t think it would really happen, even when the papers said it might happen. But it happened.

Home from work. Crikkit, on the picture wireless. The Straya v Paki one-dayer, on Focks.

As we speak, I am now listening to the nasal whiny ponderings of one David Warner, inexplicably brought in as a commentator. Predictably, said commentary is all about him.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 4, 2024 5:33 pm

At least Albo’s beach house is off the front page. Joyce harder to find than a real leprechaun.

Lysander
Lysander
November 4, 2024 5:35 pm

Did any Cat notice that KumAllah requires all of her staff to be fully Covid vaccinated, including the 8 (?) subsequent boosters?

(“My body my choice” eh?)

mem
mem
November 4, 2024 5:36 pm

This is from Forbes Magazine and covers the impact of the 2000 Presidential election Bush vs Gore, when results were delayed.
It makes for interesting reading and how the markets were impacted.

Wall Street experts have been analyzing Election Day, November 7, 2000, when a slew of television networks called the state of Florida–which accounted for enough electoral votes to effectively decide the election–for then-Vice President Al Gore, a decision that unraveled in the following hours as votes counted increasingly showed the winner to be then-governor of Texas, George W. Bush. 

weeks-long vote recount hinged on technicalities created a swath of uncertainty and tanked stocks as much as 8.5% before the Supreme Court named Bush the victor on December 12–a full five weeks after Election Day, notes Morgan Stanley Investment Management’s Andrew Slimmon.

The VIX, however, which tracks volatility expectations, peaked in November before the election actually took place, and it didn’t peak again until weeks later as a result of the ongoing dot-com crash–long after the Supreme Court announced Bush the winner.

The stock-market uncertainty tied to election results ultimately only lasted about three weeks; by December 4, the S&P 500 had returned to pre-election levels, and some sectors, such as defense and consumer staples, even saw a boost from the prospects of a Bush victory despite the broader rout.

That three-week timeline is roughly in line with analyst estimates regarding the possibility of a similarly contested election outcome this time around; Marc Chaikin of Philadelphia-based quant investment firm Chaikin Analytics, for example, foresees a volatile downward market for one to two weeks in the event of such post-election angst.

Note this was written prior to the 2020 election but thought it might be a useful reference.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2020/11/04/the-2000-election-wasnt-decided-until-december-after-a-recountheres-what-happened-to-the-stock-market/

johanna
johanna
November 4, 2024 5:39 pm

shatterzz, at a minimum you should get a new phone out of this.

The shutting down of 3G has gone reasonably well, but as always, there have been some stuff-ups. Apparently people have innocently and legally bought phones that don’t comply. They should not have to pay.

But, it’s a sinister trend, where technology requires us to buy their updated.

I had to junk my TV when digital TVs came in, and buy a new one.

I had to junk my mobile phone recently, and buy a new one.

Now I am getting messages on the TV that they are doing something or other, and I may have to buy a new TV.

Basta!

P
P
November 4, 2024 5:42 pm
Lysander
Lysander
November 4, 2024 5:49 pm

I actually do (unrealistically?) think it’ll be harder for them to cheat this time around; there’ll still be cheating but Trump’s team wised up and will have more boots on the ground and then you’ve also got the Steve Crowder army who will be scrutineers at various booths.

It’s true what DrF says in that there are so many pissy little Counties but hopefully the majors are taken care of.

Ceres
Ceres
November 4, 2024 5:59 pm

Trump to win 289

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 4, 2024 6:05 pm

Via Hannity on Fox News now, Network NBC who produce Saturday Night Live may be brought to book by the FCC for violating the Federal Equal Time Rule re pre election shows.

Hairy says it is on Breitbart too.

johanna
johanna
November 4, 2024 6:07 pm

He will be surrounded by deeply annoyed colleagues, distraught at having the oxygen sucked out of their political messaging before the long Christmas holiday.
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No.

They are distraught because their own upgrades are now under scrutiny.

P
P
November 4, 2024 6:11 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
November 4, 2024 6:13 pm
Indolent
Indolent
November 4, 2024 6:16 pm
will
will
November 4, 2024 6:21 pm

The US Presidential election.

Best assessment I have come across: it’s all down to the extent of fraud in 3 States. Also who shows up and how they vote.

The more honest polls can still tell you something useful about the basic playing field.

The top 5 previously most accurate polls – Atlas, Trafalgar, Rasmussen, The Hill/Harris, Insider Advantage – and ran quick averages. Here’s that baseline playing field.

Nationally, Trump leads Harris by 0.7%.

Let’s see what our cleaned-up swing state averages look like.

Arizona Trump +3.3

North Carolina Trump +3

Georgia Trump +2.5

Nevada Trump +2

Pennsylvania Trump +1.5

Wisconsin Trump +1.3

Michigan Trump +0.8

Quickie analysis: In an honest election (yeah right), Trump wins at these poll numbers, no extra “shy Trump” votes needed. In a Big Cheat election, if Harris can take the bottom three states PA WI and MI (and not lose any marginal Blue states like New Hampshire or Virginia) she wins

At 2020 level swing-state cheat margins (4-5% is my 2020 Cheat estimate) the 2016 Shy Trump number of 3-4% would make it a really close-run thing, maybe 60:40 odds of a Trump win. If Shy Trump is actually bigger this year – say, 4-5% – Trump almost certainly wins, by either knocking off PA or WI, or by knocking off one or more marginal Blue states, or both.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 4, 2024 6:24 pm

They are distraught because their own upgrades are now under scrutiny

‘Oh shit oh shit what have I claimed this wasn’t supposed to happen how many over what, 15 YEARS oh my god JANICE where are my diaries never mind I wouldn’t have written anything in them anyway how many staffers have I fired I can blame oh god oh god must draft a press release oh yes I Have Never Called Airline Bosses/Lobbyists To Get Any Upgrade Ever and just to be sure I’ll cancel my existing rorts someone gave to me now I’ll have to go povo class from now on Albo you DICKHEAD’

Aaaand so on.

Indolent
Indolent
November 4, 2024 6:27 pm
Lysander
Lysander
November 4, 2024 6:29 pm

Perhaps I spoke too early:

Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer has signed a law banning election recounts based on fraud allegations.

calli
calli
November 4, 2024 6:31 pm

On the Upgrade Addiction…a quick glance in my crystal ball tells me that many…many politicians are currently revising their Christmas holiday travel arrangements.

😀

Lysander
Lysander
November 4, 2024 6:34 pm

Don’t forget to wish Tony Abbott a happy 67th birthday today!!!

Morsie
Morsie
November 4, 2024 6:39 pm

Boroondara most of our sitting councillors topped out,replaced by so called independents apparently funded by Holmes A Court.I predict bankruptcy within 2 years.

Roger
Roger
November 4, 2024 6:40 pm

At least Albo’s beach house is off the front page. Joyce harder to find than a real leprechaun.

Hiding out in an Indian ashram?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 4, 2024 6:44 pm

$6 for a sausage roll at my local BP.

I refuse.

——

Garn:

Every Servo Worker Ever… | Garn.

Indolent
Indolent
November 4, 2024 6:47 pm
Lee
Lee
November 4, 2024 6:54 pm

An appropriate time to trot out an oldie but a baddie from a man the left normally accepts as always speaking truthfully:

Joe Biden brags about having “the most extensive and inclusive VOTER FRAUD organization” in history.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 4, 2024 6:55 pm

Vivek Ramaswamy – Why the FBI Must Be Dismantled

When chainsaw Vivek goes around telling this aspiration to anyone who will listen, he makes it strategically rather difficult to use any element of surprise in his attack. If the FBI were willing to pursue partisan punishments including election interference already, well then how does he expect his allies to win? “Too big to rig” is their only strategy and hope.

Cassie of Sydney
November 4, 2024 7:03 pm

Don’t forget to wish Tony Abbott a happy 67th birthday today!!!

I sincerely wish Tony Abbott a happy birthday but I also hope, given the history, that he’s telephoned Pauline and offered to donate to her forthcoming appeal of that utterly scandalous federal court judgment.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 4, 2024 7:04 pm

a quick glance in my crystal ball tells me that many…many politicians are currently revising their Christmas holiday travel arrangements.

I foresee lots of photos – not ostensibly referring to this particular issue but for any time one of these loathsome creatures must venture into an airport (probably with their worthless spouses and already putrefied offspring) – grinning broadly but mirthlessly with their luggage in the economy line. Going against their nature to shore up percentage points.

And then, of course, when they think they can’t be seen (as they originally thought the case with their Qantas upgrades) they will exploit other opportunities for graft with a perverse sense of revenge against those who denied them what was originally their right.

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Roger
Roger
November 4, 2024 7:07 pm

On the Upgrade Addiction…a quick glance in my crystal ball tells me that many…many politicians are currently revising their Christmas holiday travel arrangements.

Further, do ABC personalities get gratis Chairman’s Lounge membership + perks?

Inquiring minds…

Zippster
Zippster
November 4, 2024 7:10 pm

The One Civilization Theory: It Was Only Ever Rome (The Misnomer of “Western Civilization”)

Summary: In the video “The One Civilization Theory: It Was Only Ever Rome” from the Based Camp channel, hosts Simone and Malcolm Collins discuss a controversial historical theory that suggests human civilization has largely been a product of a single lineage, primarily rooted in Western civilization, which they trace through Egypt, Mesopotamia, Greece, and Rome. They argue that other civilizations, like those in East Asia and Mesoamerica, either developed later or were significantly influenced by contact with the ‘one civilization’ framework. The discussion culminates in a contrast of accomplishments and cultural advancements, emphasizing how the achievements of Rome have overshadowed others and shaped the foundation of what is now considered Western civilization. ### Key Points by Section: #### Introduction to a Controversial Theory (0:00) – The perspective of human civilization emerging in distinct regions is critiqued. – Introduction of the ‘One Civilization Theory’ that suggests most accomplishments stem from a singular cultural lineage. #### Reevaluating Historical Civilizations (1:36) – Reflection on the historical dominance of civilizations like Greece and Rome. – Comparison of advancements in regions based on Roman influence, highlighting stagnation after the Romans withdrew. #### Comparing Ancient Ruins (3:27) – Examination of major ancient ruins in the context of their relevance and timeframe. – Discussion on the significance of ruins like those in Rome versus ruins from other civilizations, particularly Eastern contexts. #### Literature and Cultural Achievements (5:59) – Analysis of literary achievements across civilizations. – The reiteration of how Western literature developed earlier and with more sophistication compared to Eastern and Mesoamerican counterparts. #### The One Civilization Theory (7:43) – Argument that there’s a unified civilizational advancement chained through historical figures and empires. – Acknowledgment that all significant accomplishments can be traced back to this singular lineage, dismissing the true independence of others. #### Mesoamerican and East Asian Civilizations (10:01) – Mesoamerican structures are recognized for their significance, but their historical timelines are framed as later developments compared to Rome. – East Asian civilizations are examined with a focus on the timeline of their monumental architecture. #### Exploring Ruins in Japan and China (11:23) – Analysis of historical sites within Japan and China in relation to Roman constructions to showcase the differences in achievement. – Emphasis on the underwhelming nature of ancient ruins in comparison to those from the ‘one civilization.’ #### The Great Wall and Other Structures (13:49) – Comparison of monumental structures, like the Great Wall of China, with Roman infrastructure. – Discussion of how the Great Wall fails to impress compared to the innovations of Roman engineering. The entire video traverses the intersections of history, architecture, literature, and cultural exchange, supporting the idea that the legacy of Rome and its predecessors residually permeated into later civilizations, while simultaneously critiquing modern perceptions of history that overlook this singular influence.

Indolent
Indolent
November 4, 2024 7:18 pm
Crossie
Crossie
November 4, 2024 7:20 pm

And poor li’l Peanut, he never hurt anybody, but brought joy of the sort that Kamala could only dream of to millions of people now saddened by his brutal state-sanctioned murder.

This is from a nested comment from Lizzie on the previous page.

Kamala’s campaign slogan was JOY a few weeks back yet here is a government of her party being a total killjoy. It seems in everything not just political campaigns, whatever they say you can bet on it being the opposite.

Roger
Roger
November 4, 2024 7:23 pm

Zippster,

On the real possibility of the deindustrialisation of W. Europe, as posted earlier, Macron warned about this in a speech last month.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 4, 2024 7:25 pm

Hah! Finally lured Hairy into my study and made him sit and watch Powerline WiP re poor little Peanut.

He had to laugh in spite of himself at some of those great memes, and grasped their significance too.

November Surprise, he said dryly.

I also clicked on the comments and whadya know? Another load of great memes in amongst the comments. Also there towards the end of the comments is a link to the crux of the case. The sad owner of Squirrel telling the story of how a SWAT team made him sit outside for five hours while they ransacked his house and interrogated his wife about her immigration status. They had a search warrant for this outrage. He could only use the loo if accompanied by a SWAT team member during that time and he couldn’t attend to any of the 300 animals in his animal rescue sanctuary, especially the thirsty horses. Peanut is apparently world famous and has been the main source of income for this animal sanctuary.

Heartless effing bureaucrats much??

I hope Peanut swings NYC for Trump. It would be justice done.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 4, 2024 7:31 pm
Eyrie
Eyrie
November 4, 2024 7:35 pm

That SMH editorial is a disgraceful pack of lies. The SMH should be Rabzed.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 4, 2024 7:37 pm

I hope Peanut swings NYC for Trump. It would be justice done.
?
Justice will be done when the SWAT team, their bosses and the Karen in Texas all swing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 4, 2024 7:39 pm

KD at 5:33.

As we speak, I am now listening to the nasal whiny ponderings of one David Warner, inexplicably brought in as a commentator. Predictably, said commentary is all about him.

TV execs are almost as far removed from Joe Public as those in the Canbra bubble.
They seem to think the viewers will buy into the “houso boy made good” shtick when all they hear is a self-aggrandising dickwad.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
November 4, 2024 7:42 pm

Greg Sheridan (Foreign Editor, The Australian) rants on Bolt tonight about Trump being a nasty man – reminds me why I ditched the subscription years ago. Too many idiots among the good stuff there.

calli
calli
November 4, 2024 7:46 pm

Sheridan sprays “foul mouthed” and “liar” at Trump every time his name comes up. Pavlov’s dog stuff.

He never gives us examples.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 4, 2024 7:46 pm

Victorians to be slugged thousands of dollars to claim their inheritanceBy Carla Jaeger and Broede CarmodyUpdated November 4, 2024 — 4.57pmfirst published at 1.53pm

Victorians claiming estates worth up to $250,000 will have their probate fees waived, but those handling assets of more than $2 million are set to pay thousands of dollars extra under changes announced by the Allan government on Monday.
The biggest increase in costs will be for estates worth between $250,000 and $500,000 – up 645 per cent. The fees for estates in that range, currently about $69, are set to rise to $514. Fees for estates valued at more than $500,000 will jump between 180 per cent and 625 per cent.

Probate fees are essentially the administrative costs paid to the court to validate and approve the distribution of an individual’s estate.
The changes mean that Victorians handling the estate of a deceased loved one worth more than $2 million could be paying almost double – or in some cases more – the equivalent charges in NSW and South Australia.
The state government argues the changes are needed to cover the cost of handling large, complex estates, including those that are challenged in the Supreme Court.
But shadow attorn
ey-general Michael O’Brien criticised the government for announcing it on the eve of the Melbourne Cup and argued the new fees – to be introduced on November 18 – couldn’t be justified.

Makka
Makka
November 4, 2024 7:48 pm

Greg Sheridan (Foreign Editor, The Australian) rants on Bolt tonight about Trump being a nasty man 

Sheridan must have been deaf dumb and blind the last 4 years then – if he believes the Demorats are the best leaders of the free world. Or, perhaps just a m0ron, like our fat resident.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
November 4, 2024 7:48 pm

There’s noise coming out of my TV. Fluffy is on it.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 4, 2024 7:52 pm

That SMH editorial is a disgraceful pack of lies. The SMH should be Rabzed.

The Sydney Morning Vomit is pretty much Rabzed anyway- according to Tom it loses money bigtime but keeping it going like a zombie is cheaper than redundancies.

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Miltonf
Miltonf
November 4, 2024 7:55 pm

Is Sheridan really that stoopid? Probably. Nasty to boot.

Indolent
Indolent
November 4, 2024 8:06 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
November 4, 2024 8:06 pm

I believe it’s Trump supporters Sheridan really hates- productive, practical people which he will never be.

bons
bons
November 4, 2024 8:08 pm

Yes, the Sheridan interview was bipolar. His attack on Labor’s Defence actions and the SFL’s criminal silence was brilliant.

He then followed up with a statement that Trump would be the better president, but then TDS overwhelmed him and he embarked upon his usual anti-Trump rant.

From what could be understood, it appears that it is Trump’s non- diplomatic and even crude language that upsets Sheridan’s Aunt Jemima Catholic heart.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 4, 2024 8:11 pm

The old perv and the lesbian bitch are both extremely crude but that’s ok apparently.

Rabz
November 4, 2024 8:12 pm

Did someone mention dreg sheridini? Two quotes that sum him up perfectly:

“Donald Trump is a despicable individual.”

“Joe Biden is a fundamentally decent man.”

Yep, he said both. On television.

What a dickhead.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 4, 2024 8:14 pm

I certainly don’t need some mediocre deadshit Sydney journalist to explain American politics to me.

Rabz
November 4, 2024 8:15 pm

Oh, grate – the barking mad dross greenfilth on Shazza, crapping on about the US election.

Off switch utilised.

Cassie of Sydney
November 4, 2024 8:16 pm

First they came for the squirrels.

Then they’re coming for you and me.

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LB2
LB2
November 4, 2024 8:25 pm

Further to “the Journey” at 2.35pm supra:

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Roger
Roger
November 4, 2024 8:35 pm

Titania McGrath endorses Kamala:

Kamala Harris is now the only hope for America. She is both mixed-race and female, which is far more important than “charisma” or “competence”. She is half-Indian and half-Jamaican, which means that she is even more oppressed than Barack Obama. And let’s not forget that Obama’s mother was white, which always meant he was 50 per cent problematic.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 4, 2024 8:38 pm

Wow just been doing some diving on the judge in Pauline’s case and one of his activist sons. Son had a fair bit to do with pushing the Gender Identity Law NSW which was sponsored by one Alex Greenwich. Also a high profile member of Equity Australia.

As soon as he was appointed to preside over the action against Pauline she was starting 200m behind the starters line. Found the judgement, it’s quite long.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 4, 2024 8:40 pm

Daniel Schmachtenberger – Why We’re Creating a Future That Nobody Wants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzCVzyTktR0 [10:18]
Starts off outlining game theory and then concentrates on the ramifications of the Prisoners’ Dilemma manifesting itself in economics, environmentalism, and war.

LB2
LB2
November 4, 2024 8:54 pm

Just wondrin’ – any chance of an upgrade on one’s recently acquired personal VIP RAAF jet?
Asking for a friend …

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 4, 2024 8:57 pm

‘Living knowledge systems’: Marcia Langton says Indigenous know-how is not in the past
HELEN TRINCA

Aboriginal academic and commentator Marcia Langton says Australians should use Indigenous knowledge to address contemporary problems ranging from managing bushfires and water resources to dealing with mental health.

As co-editor of a new book covering the application of know-how developed over 65,000 years to modern Australia, she argues that far from being stuck in a time warp, “Indigenous knowledge isn’t in the past; these are living knowledge systems”.

Professor Langton, who is an anthropologist and geographer, says archaeologists studying pre-contact Australia also had a lot to learn from the “intangible” knowledge now being collected and analysed by researchers.

“A lot of archaeology is speculation, it’s speculative theory based on a body of evidence, such as stones and bones and so on, where they’re located, how far down they were,” Professor Langton said. “They (archaeologists) can date them, but they can only glean so much from this material. We are concerned with how people transmit their knowledge, how they understand their own knowledge, and how they interpret it. So it’s a different class of understanding.”

The book – Indigenous Knowledge: Australian Perspectives (Melbourne University Publishing) to be released on Tuesday – outlines a collaborative approach to Indigenous knowledge research. Langton, chair of ­Australian ­Indigenous Studies at the University of Melbourne, and coeditors Aaron Corn, inaugural director of the university’s Indigenous Knowledge Institute; and Samuel Curkpatrick, a research associate at the institute, argue the research model in Australia is unique in the global context.

They say knowledge which has survived for scores of millennia can be used across medicine, health and wellbeing, social and economic development, environmental management, agriculture and horticulture, history, law and the creative arts.

Professor Langton said that, for example, a great deal was now known about the pattern of bushfires after colonisation.

“We now have a situation where we understand the nature of the wildfires,” she said.

“This has all been mapped. So where you have a history of ­Aboriginal land practices being removed from the country by ­removing populations, then you have more wildfires.

“We now have very precise scientific knowledge about this. Some of it is esoteric, if you like, but a lot of the knowledge is very straightforward.”

The royal commission on the “Black Summer” fires of 2019-2020 had recommended scientists work with Indigenous knowledge holders to learn how to apply traditional burning in a bid to limit wildfires.

Aboriginal narratives about the inundation of Australia’s coastlines 10,000 to 20,000 years ago had been matched with ­actual evidence of inundation and this showed the relevance of information that had been coded in Indigenous language.

“It’s very clear from the evidence that for thousands of years, Aboriginal people managed fire with fire, and in many parts of Australia, those traditions continue, and there’s a lot of science around it,” she said.

The burning techniques were practical but they relied on “an encyclopaedic knowledge” about issues such as wind patterns and vegetation.

Dr Corn said Indigenous knowledge had guided people’s lives pre-contact but had continued to coexist and develop alongside modernity and globalisation.

“Those ways of living and the knowledge that underpins them didn’t just magically disappear,” he said.

“They still exist today, and they still inform people’s lives, and they still inform ways of knowing about the world that often in universities we can actually overlook.

“Two summers ago, because of the concern about bush fires claiming so many millionaires’ mansions in the northern suburbs of Sydney, there was this amazing call for traditional burning practitioners to come in and rescue everybody’s homes.”

He’s optimistic that non-­Indigenous Australians will embrace Indigenous knowledge, even though it is sometime hard to explain the concepts in English.

“The terms in English are imperfect,” Dr Corn said.

“But that happens with translations from any language. It is a struggle, and the onus is on us to work with people who are fluent in their own languages and who think deeply about where ideas and meaning come from.

“We have to accept too that the evidence base for this kind of work will include things like oral history and way that knowledge is encoded in language. A lot of our colleagues working at the science end of the ­spectrum of research, struggle with that.”

Professor Corn said work in the Northern Territory and South Australia where people were drawing on the knowledge of traditional healers and bush medicine in the health system was a compelling argument for the research.

“You can’t have a public health program anywhere that’s successful if you’re not actually engaged with the people who that’s meant to benefit,” he said.

“Think about really fraught areas like mental health – not everything is going to work for everybody. And so (there’s value in) a multitude of approaches rather than narrowing everything to a top down, centralised system.”

Oz. if you have a sub go and make some thoughtful comments.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 4, 2024 9:13 pm

Paywallian comment rejection rate about 50%, right in the target zone.

JC
JC
November 4, 2024 9:15 pm

According to RFK jnr, on the first day, Trump will ban adding fluoride to the US water system. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

Cassie of Sydney
November 4, 2024 9:19 pm

According to RFK jnr, on the first day, Trump will ban adding fluoride to the US water system. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

I do. I think fluoride has been a positive, it has aided dental health.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 4, 2024 9:24 pm

fluoride has been a positive, it has aided dental health

Yep. Fluoride in the water is fine.

It’s the fluoride delivered by chemtrails that turns you into a lizard with red shoes. As long as Trump bans that, he’s golden.

Helen
Helen
November 4, 2024 9:37 pm

Flouride occurs naturally in bore water to varying degrees, I remember seeing it on bore water analasies – with bottled water and less reliance on town water (fountains etc) we would be taking in much less than prior. I wonder if that has impacted caries?

Here is a study done in Oz. by dentists.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 4, 2024 9:54 pm
m0nty
m0nty
November 4, 2024 10:02 pm

One more day for a late surprise not to happen. Mind you, any big event may be too late to swing the result either way, given the rise in early voting.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 4, 2024 10:03 pm

JC
 November 4, 2024 9:15 pm

According to RFK jnr, on the first day, Trump will ban adding fluoride to the US water system. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

If Trump wins he would be well advised to thank RFK Jnr for his help on the campaign and wish him a fond farewell.
Letting him anywhere near ‘elf or ‘vironment policy would be lunacy.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 4, 2024 10:07 pm

Apache2 Default Page

That’s what I get when I try to go to Quadrant.
Strange and irritating.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 4, 2024 10:11 pm

“Two summers ago, because of the concern about bush fires claiming so many millionaires’ mansions in the northern suburbs of Sydney, there was this amazing call for traditional burning practitioners to come in and rescue everybody’s homes.”

I think he talk bullshit.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 4, 2024 10:19 pm

there was this amazing call for traditional burning practitioners

The CFA?

cohenite
November 4, 2024 10:20 pm

One more day for a late surprise not to happen.

What did you have in mind dickless: another assassination attempt. The demorats are good at violence, lying, hating and killing. Take your pick.

m0nty
m0nty
November 4, 2024 10:21 pm

I see cohenite’s boy @RedEaglePatriot has been busted asking the pollster he commissioned for a quick Iowa survey countering the Selzer bombshell to juke the stats. The pollster said no, LOL.

Indolent
Indolent
November 4, 2024 10:22 pm

Hoping and praying he’s right.

@elonmusk

Last election, I didn’t know a single independent/swing voter who was voting for Trump.

This time, I don’t know anyone who isn’t.

And one person after another has confided in me that they’re voting for Trump, but they’re afraid to say so publicly, because it will affect their friends/job/customers.

Crushing defeat is coming for the oppressive. big government machine represented by the Kamala puppet.

Indolent
Indolent
November 4, 2024 10:23 pm
Indolent
Indolent
November 4, 2024 10:26 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
November 4, 2024 10:28 pm

mUnty very chirpy. Can it last?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 4, 2024 10:36 pm

Imagine an election where the candidates were required to formulate policies which induced you to vote and where your vote couldn’t move between candidates.

Rosie
Rosie
November 4, 2024 10:45 pm

I’m glad Elon is confident but I, obviously, don’t have a clue who will win.
Neither does Monty.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 4, 2024 10:50 pm

Mrs P happened to tune to their ABC for the start of Three Corners which had me throwing up my pavlova all over the shag pile.
Apparently brown people are being oppressed in the UK over the Southport stabbings and therefore we need to put a crimp in Soshul Meeja misinformation.
Obviously this was recorded before the stabby guys history became public.
Funny how Soshul Meeja has only required policing since Elon Musk bought X and refused to censor conservatives.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 4, 2024 10:57 pm

Just reading Joe Aston’s book.
Of course, Luigi’s freebies is just the hook to sell the book, but it is mostly about the monumental cock-up Qaintarse has become, of which Upgrades for Luigi is merely a symptom.
I had forgotten about the ill-fated private equity push to buy out Qaintarse, sponsored by Geoff Dixon and Margaret Jackson.
That fell over, but the Sydney boys club eventually got their way by doing a similar number on Sydney Airport.

Michael
Michael
November 4, 2024 11:06 pm

It’s all about Peanut and Fred now. It’s the Sciuridae election.
People with bushey tails are out and proud and will make a difference.

Helen
Helen
November 4, 2024 11:20 pm

If Donald Trump wins, it is over

Tatiana McGrath joins the dots.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 4, 2024 11:27 pm

So Langton can recite her pre colonial times relatives names?

The Abofication of genuine science is Australia’s answer to the wonders of Lysenkoism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

Barry
Barry
November 4, 2024 11:38 pm

Simulation much?

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Barry
Barry
November 4, 2024 11:45 pm

And apparently the Peanut Squirrel’s owner is a raving bender who produces prolific gay pron on OnlyFans under the name Squirrel_Dad.

That’s why the GOP is wisely staying away from the peanut story, sad and enraging as it is.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 4, 2024 11:48 pm

Anyone here into cricket?

Looking at the 3-0 whitewash uNZud just pulled off in India, I’m keen on a 5-0 whitewash coming up here. Shop for the best odds. Maybe a 4-0 saver in case of rain in a test also etc.

Kohli and Sharma are shadows of their former selves. Ashwin and Jadeja are getting very long in the tooth. Best strike bowler Mo Shami isn’t touring because injury.

Oh come on
Oh come on
November 4, 2024 11:56 pm

The one question from Donald Trump that could sway many American voters in swing states

Is apparently “hey Mike. Feel a little sexy tonight?”

Donald Trump’s frustrations with a faulty microphone boiled over at the Milwaukee rally. He spoke of “knocking the hell out of people backstage” and at one point appeared to mimic fellating the microphone.

How do you mimic fellating a microphone when it is right in front of you? Wouldn’t you just…um…fellate it, if that was what you wanted to intimate? What does this even mean? He’s angry with microphone gremlins so he mimics fellating the microphone? What the hell? How does that make sense?

This really says a lot more about the author than it does about Trump. Sigmund Freud, call your office!

Muddy
Muddy
November 5, 2024 12:00 am

My Experience at Trump/Harris Rallies as a Foreigner
YouTube. Less than 8 minutes. The bloke was told he’d be beaten or shot if he attended a Trump rally (as an Asian), but that was not his experience.

The power of propaganda.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 5, 2024 12:11 am

TAB has 5-0 at $15. 4-0 at $11. 3-0 at $16. Be like shooting fish in a barrel.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 5, 2024 12:35 am

I’ll use my lingo and paraphrase Mark Dice.
If you don’t like my content, unsubscribe and f*ck off!

—-

Dice:

Kamala Still Can’t Answer a Basic Question, With Election Day Just Hours Away!

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Oh come on
Oh come on
November 5, 2024 12:40 am

The ABC’s US election coverage is becoming hysterical. In the 1950s sense of the word. Like, time for your lobotomy!

JC
JC
November 5, 2024 12:50 am
Zafiro
Zafiro
November 5, 2024 1:49 am

Melbourne Cup first four.

  1. Onesmoothoperator.

Pommy horse that won the Geelong Cup. Explosive turn of foot once he balanced up in the home straight was awesome. Has scores on the board at the distance.

2. Sea King

Pommy horse that won the Bendigo Cup. Was racing midfield then took off like a scalded cat at the 5 furlong pole and shat in by 4 lengths. Treated the rest of the field with disdain. Untried at the two-mile distance.

3. Interpretation

Ex-Pommy horse. Ran 6th in the cup last year. His second in the Geelong Cup, whilst no threat to the winner, was impressive. Settles well back, last around the home turn etc. When most others start tiring and compounding, he will be running on strong.

4. Saint George

Ex-Pommy horse. Lightly raced 4 year old with 10 starts under his belt. He’s my roughie, and he is also a grey. Performed well in a couple of decent races in Pommyland before coming here. Last on the rails around the turn in the MV Cup, showed some decent zip in finishing 5th of 10.

Tom
Tom
November 5, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
November 5, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
November 5, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
November 5, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
November 5, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
November 5, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
November 5, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
November 5, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
November 5, 2024 4:07 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 5, 2024 4:11 am

Thanks, Tom.

KevinM
KevinM
November 5, 2024 4:21 am

Nice old bridge, still in use after nearly 2000 years.
Anyone visited the area?

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The Alcántara Bridge in Extremadura, Spain is one of the finest examples of Roman bridge-building and a monumental feat of engineering. It was built over the Tagus River in the ancient Roman province of Lusitania between 104 and 106 AD and was dedicated to the Roman emperor Trajan (he ordered it in 98 AD) on behalf of the local indigenous populations.

The architect of this great masterpiece was a man called Caius Julius Lacer.
Built of granite and without mortar, the Alcántara Bridge consists of six semicircular arches supported by five pillars.

It spans the river at a length of almost 200 m and rises more than 40 m meter above the water level. The bridge is still used for traffic (after several reconstructions).

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KevinM
KevinM
November 5, 2024 4:24 am

Down memory lane, thanks to governments fear of its citizens, this sort of thing is just a dream now.

gun
KevinM
KevinM
November 5, 2024 4:30 am

Pedro, the (suffering?) owner of Dorpers is probably too young to remember this.

2up
KevinM
KevinM
November 5, 2024 4:34 am

How many from Gaza can claim this?
I suppose destroying is always easier than creating.

nob
KevinM
KevinM
November 5, 2024 4:51 am

cohenite, eat your heart out.

Don’t know what she is doing here, it is supposed to be an ad for BMW?

But she looks Ok just the same.

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Rosie
Rosie
November 5, 2024 6:27 am

“Incredible how media narrative can create or attempt to create a reality.

Almost all the national polls just pulled a near universal 4-point swing to Donald Trump from their prior polls, not dissimilar to 2016, and they have everyone talking about late momentum to Harris.”
https://x.com/Peoples_Pundit/status/1853437434152837350?t=FL2to6Xes9Eg2aymA8LWgA&s=19

Bungonia bee
Bungonia bee
November 5, 2024 6:30 am

The totally rubbish News website is doubling down on fake news and scare stories about Trump. They say he is going to not accept the result and do something nefarious, while over at their fake polls section they have Kamala surging!
Steve Kelley’s cartoon is spot on.
Thanks Tom.

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Rosie
Rosie
November 5, 2024 6:36 am
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 5, 2024 6:50 am

Foxbody on fluoride tablets, a ride down memory lane there. Remember mum doing same in the 1970’s in Brisbane.

Funny our dodgy mayor up here wants to remove fluoride from the water. Which is weird Townsville was one of the few Qld cities that fluorinated water even when I moved here in the 1990’s.

Indolent
Indolent
November 5, 2024 6:58 am

@WesternLensman

HATE TV: Joe Scarborough goes on moralizing rant, trashes Trump rally goers: “Who are these people? Where are they coming from? Who raised them?”

They’re smearing Trump supporters. Again.

“I will ask the question that I think is a fair question to ask, who raised these people? Because they were not raised by anybody in my neighborhoods that I grew up in.”

“How did Donald Trump twist their point of view so much in nine years that the brutalization of an 83 year old man is something to laugh about? Or the shooting of press members is an applause line.”

Scarborough not only smears Trump supporters as uncouth, brainwashed rubes — he twists the facts into a pretzel in order to do it.

All stated with smug, righteous indignation, preening moral superiority and deep-seated contempt.

Hate TV.

Indolent
Indolent
November 5, 2024 7:01 am
Indolent
Indolent
November 5, 2024 7:02 am
Indolent
Indolent
November 5, 2024 7:04 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 5, 2024 7:10 am

The totally rubbish News website is doubling down on fake news and scare stories about Trump. 

That and Sheridan and this story shows it is Newscorpse policy.

Trump: Fox News Is Not Our Friend (4 Nov)

Well, they’re doing great things for actual rightwing media like OANN and Newsmax, whose story this is.

Indolent
Indolent
November 5, 2024 7:17 am

The “getting Squirrely” article itself is outstanding, but just read the first comment –

Maureen ODH
My comment to a lady complaining about the peanut story getting so much attention….
Megan, … you may be misinterpreting the national interest… a single wildlife agent or warden was all that was required to investigate “ a case of keeping a rodent, a misdemeanor. This couple was swatted with 10 drawn lethal guns, the house town apart… why? The alleged “perp” was completely cooperating. Without a judges hearing or trial of any kind, Peanut and Fred were euthanized…. What’s important, Harris signed off on DOD 5240.01 , allowing police to use lethal force on American Citizens for any perceived subjective dissent or perception the officer fears an attack. Now add in J6, hundreds still incarcerated for entering the capital, declared an insurrection by Pelosi and Liz Cheney NO MATTER THAT NOT A SINGLE ACCUSED CARRIED A WEAPON OR GUN…. this new tyrannical law is in place… swatting American Citizens at dawn often with children in the home, breaking the door down, guns drawn, frighting non combative citizens is akin to WW2 Germany tactics… and will continue if this regime continues… personal 2nd amendment guns will be confiscated already stated by this regime, first amendment and 2nd amendment will be dismantled…
Evidently you need to be swatted for merely posting a comment in opposition to any government narrative… Elon Musk has stated several times his life is in danger if this regime continues, we the people know the manner in which J6 was handled, no due process, lies and accusations that cannot be defended by the accused IS OUR CURRENT STATE OF GOVERNMENT…. no wonder 70 % of the country, proclaimed domestic terrorists and garbage by Biden, are putting our very lives in a former president that never treated American Citizens with such outward disgust and hate….

AnotherRanga
AnotherRanga
November 5, 2024 7:20 am

Quincy Jones dead at 91. Only found out because Triple J played a tribute. Nothing in The Australian app or on Newds.com, although The Daily Mail had a side bar article.
RIP to a true icon and genius.

johanna
johanna
November 5, 2024 7:31 am

I worked for Dennis Richardson decades ago, and had a lot of respect for him.

It seems that the further he got into the Defence/’Intelligence” zone, the more his previously excellent judgement deteriorated.

Now this:

Australia’s trade and military ties with the United States can withstand the return of Donald Trump to the White House, a former top diplomat says, praising “outstanding” US ambassador Kevin Rudd for building relationships across the political divide.
Dennis Richardson, who ran the Department of Foreign Affairs after serving nine years as US ambassador, told Q+A that Mr Rudd has what it takes to negotiate the bitterly fought race between Mr Trump and Democratic opponent Kamala Harris for the White House.
On the eve of the election, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese confirmed Mr Rudd would remain US ambassador, telling ABC Radio on Monday: “Australia decides who our ambassador is, and Mr Rudd is doing a terrific job.”
“Rudd will be fine,” Mr Richardson, who served as US ambassador under Bill Clinton and George W Bush, told Q+A on Monday night.
“He is extremely hardworking. He’s been highly effective in Washington. He has good links across the political spectrum.”
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I doubt that Trump will waste much time on whoever is the Australian Ambassador unless it it necessary.

But if it becomes necessary, who in their right mind would send Kevni to make representations on our behalf? He has been a mouthpiece for the Dimmocrats for years, and has said some very nasty things about Trump.

Sack him and send Tony Abbott instead.

Rosie
Rosie
November 5, 2024 7:46 am
Cassie of Sydney
November 5, 2024 8:00 am

I don’t know about others here but I don’t want ‘right-wing’ media anymore than I want ‘left-wing’ media.

I want a media that reports the facts and offers a variety of opinion.

I don’t want an echo chamber media. I hanker for the media of old, where many journalists may have been of the old left but they were intrepid and fearless in sniffing and hunting down stories that that challenged narratives and upset the apple carts of both left and right.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
November 5, 2024 8:08 am

Just caught some goon on Seven (they have the racing today) saying Trump was again making claims about fraud that he “presented no evidence of”.

When will the media stop lying about this sort of thing?

The evidence is already thick on the ground, as it was post the 2020 election. The media has sent all that down the memory hole and now tell their own delusional or collusional version of history.

Zippster
Zippster
November 5, 2024 8:10 am

70%+ Single Women Are Voting for Kamala: Are Dems Manufacturing Single Women?

In this episode, we delve into the increasing political alignment of single women with the Democratic Party and contrast it with the trends observed among married women. The discussion highlights how single women are becoming a significant voter demographic for Democrats, and explores various social aspects, including government services dependency and the evolving perception of women’s roles in society. The hosts also analyze historical voting patterns, particularly in relation to Kamala Harris’ rising popularity amongst single women, and ponder the societal implications of this demographic shift.

00:00 Introduction: The Rise of Single Women in the U.S.
00:20 The State as a Partner: Single Women and Government Dependency
00:48 Political Implications: Single Women and Voting Trends
02:51 Cat Lady Stereotype: JD Vance’s Controversial Comment
04:41 Mental Health and Single Women: The Role of Pets
09:09 Marriage and Political Shifts: Why Married Women Lean Republican
16:11 The Impact of Progressivism on Dating and Marriage
18:13 Single Women and Civic Engagement: Voting Patterns and Government Services
23:49 Ab*rtion Views: The Shift Among Single Women
26:40 Political Stances and Ab*rtion Debate
27:51 Women’s Satisfaction and Rights Over Time
29:48 Mental Health Trends and Therapy
34:36 Female Politicians and Public Perception
43:10 Social Events and Community Building
46:23 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 5, 2024 8:13 am

I disagree with Sancho’s view at 9.15 that Trump should shoo of RFK once he wins. RFK is a plus with younger health-conscious voters. He might need some coralling into various ‘investigative portfolios’ for a while rather than running a health system, but some things in health and nutrition do need changing, and so do relationships between Big Food and Big Medical Regulation. If he comes back with a recommendation for more stress on cheaper meat and more meat eating, that’s ok by me. It can counter some of the rabid lunacy of the vegan climate crowd. Good one. He could also look at recommendations for the next pandemic in the light of the Covid excesses. There’s a role for a gingering up stirrer in all of this.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 5, 2024 8:24 am

According to RFK jnr, on the first day, Trump will ban adding fluoride to the US water system. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

The whole idea of mass medicating a population with little control over individual doses by adding stuff to the public water supply is actually bizarre. If parents want to give kids fluoride tablets that is on them but there has been recent research that raises some warning flags. Alternatively they can stop giving the kids lollies and sugar which would be excellent.

132andBush
132andBush
November 5, 2024 8:30 am

If Trump wins he would be well advised to thank RFK Jnr for his help on the campaign and wish him a fond farewell.

Letting him anywhere near ‘elf or ‘vironment policy would be lunacy.

Yep.
While he does have some good points, RFK Jnr strikes me as someone who should be held at arm’s length.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 5, 2024 8:31 am

Rosie
 November 5, 2024 6:27 am

“Incredible how media narrative can create or attempt to create a reality.

Almost all the national polls just pulled a near universal 4-point swing to Donald Trump from their prior polls

The same thing happened with the Queensland election.
The Courier Mail published an exit poll which had it neck-and-neck. Skah News seat projection had it that way for most of the night whilst Antony Green was showing a clear LNP win. The cheer squad was calling it a brilliant “save the furniture” campaign by Miles and that Luigi should engage in a similar “free shit” spendathon. Skah News only flipped the seat count to something realistic when it looked like Miles was going to throw in the towel.
Days later the real count shows it exactly where Newspoll had it weeks ago … 53 seats to 35 plus 5 to KAP and others, and a Two Party Preferred of 54:46.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 5, 2024 8:32 am

Rabbis know.

50 Orthodox Rabbis Endorse Donald Trump (4 Nov)

Dems Can’t Find Orthodox Rabbis to Support Kamala (4 Nov)

Meanwhile Barack Hussein Obama said yesterday that Trump is an antisemite.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 5, 2024 8:33 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

 November 5, 2024 8:13 am

I disagree with Sancho’s view at 9.15 …

How dare you!

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Cassie of Sydney
November 5, 2024 8:34 am

It’s quite clear that some here want a media that echoes their thoughts and opinions all day long.

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P
November 5, 2024 8:35 am
bons
bons
November 5, 2024 8:37 am

Andrew Doyle’s creation of Tatiania McGrath is one of the best on going satirical creations ever.

Doyle has created persona with a life of its own.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 5, 2024 8:40 am

Do check the 7.04 link by Indolent – ‘getting squirelly’.

A very thoughtful analysis by Bad Catitude on the Peanut phenomenon, putting it as the last straw in political overreach and fascist legislation that allows police to break into your home and ransack it on any pretext agreed to my some Democrat legal stooge.

Article gives the wonderful label of the assault on little Peanut as part of the Democrats as the Party of ‘joy through rules’ and it concludes:

it’s farce played as tragedy.

really think about this:

a riled up karen from 1500 miles away makes a call and an actual SWAT team of health agents break into and wreck a home, detain the humans, and kill the animals all for what? in service of what? in mitigation of what?

who in their right mind would want to live like this and to leave this kind of inhuman, unaccountable power lying around in the hands of the kinds of people who would use it like this.

Cassie of Sydney
November 5, 2024 8:40 am

Oh and what did the media get wrong about the Kennedy assassination?

Natural Instinct
Natural Instinct
November 5, 2024 8:41 am

Cassie at 800am

I want a media that reports the facts and offers a variety of opinion.

And perhaps not sheep.
I await with interest the Iowa results after that pro-Kamala poll was dropped a few days ago.
The poll was pushed by MSM and especially TheirABC.
There was little analysis that the poll was an outlier.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 5, 2024 8:42 am

Just skimmed through the Hanson judgement. One for the lawyers, the Greenwich vs Latham was much easier to understand for a layman like me. This is long and gets very legalistic.

Farouqi and activist groups threw everything at this by the looks, the witness list was huge and full of the usual suspects (All recent arrivals & of the left), argued along 18C in part (Thanks Abbott) and Dreyfus’s AG Dept was an intervener (Wow, really was a hit job).

The judge for his part didn’t like Hanson to the point of dismissiveness, seems to sympathise with Farouqi and in his conclusions it isn’t hard to see his personal opinions especially on colonialism/British Empire/women of colour etc. LOL he even quotes Bromberg in his reasons, talk about birds of a feather.

Would like to see this overturned on appeal as in my opinion as a reasonable person, his honour appears biased. However Pauline would need a judge who actually is actually uncommitted.

Link to judgement here:

https://www.judgments.fedcourt.gov.au/judgments/Judgments/fca/single/2024/2024fca1264

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 5, 2024 8:47 am

Barry – Last night 1145:

And apparently the Peanut Squirrel’s owner is a raving bender who produces prolific gay pron on OnlyFans under the name Squirrel_Dad.

That’s why the GOP is wisely staying away from the peanut story, sad and enraging as it is.

I came to that conclusion about 2 seconds in watching his video.
His sweat pants style is not about decorum.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 5, 2024 8:48 am

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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 5, 2024 8:48 am

On Cassie’s point that the media should not be an echo chamber.

How boring that would be.

I’ve just finished reading the Speccie of a week ago with an article on Assisted Dying for the terminally ill, with two who have differing opinions going hammer and tongs at it. It was a wonderful read, and the sort of thing we should have lots more of.

I’d also bring back debates into school curricula. They are enormously valuable ways of getting people to see well-argued cases for opposing sides.

I do think the Australian was trying to present differing perspectives on the US election in its double page spread last Saturday. I was steaming out of my ears at Troy Bramson’s contribution, but I would defend his right to make it. I would also like to have seen a similar paeon towards Trump in place of the ‘balanced’ nature of the ‘for Trump’ commentary on that page. But that is probably expecting to much of any MSM in the present context.

Rosie
Rosie
November 5, 2024 8:49 am

Iirc FTB mentioned that RKJ was a herion addict for 14 years, he’s a wacky guy, wackier even than Trump.
I’d prefer he had little influence over policy in a Trump presidency.
JDV is VP anyhow.

Indolent
Indolent
November 5, 2024 8:49 am

The thing is, there is fluoride in almost all toothpastes. Why does it need to be in the water as well?
The inside story of the battle inside NIH regarding fluoride in drinking water

Indolent
Indolent
November 5, 2024 8:50 am
Roger
Roger
November 5, 2024 8:51 am

Trigger warning (chuckle):

Sheridan thoughtfully endorses Trump…

A Trump victory will be the better outcome for Australia

Greg Sheridan, The Australian, 4th November 2024

A Donald Trump presidency would probably be better for Australia than a Kamala Harris presidency. There’s a simple reason for this. America would almost certainly be stronger internationally and project a more credible deterrence under Trump than it would under Harris.

Renowned British historian Niall Ferguson recently told John Anderson that Trump carried more deterrence in his little finger than Harris would hold in her entire cabinet. That might be somewhat overstating things – an unusual occurrence of Scottish exaggeration – but it’s hard to argue with Ferguson’s general point.

Trump will want to spend more on defence than Harris will. The US defence budget is way behind where it needs to be. But, more importantly, America’s adversaries will find Trump just as unpredictable as everyone else does. And he’s unpredictable in a way that can help US strategic interests.

Henry Kissinger famously told the Soviets that Richard Nixon was a madman and that he could overreact or escalate at very short notice. Nixon was anything but a madman. But it seemed an effective image.

Ronald Reagan came into office with the reputation of a fierce and militaristic Cold War hawk. In fact Reagan, the greatest of the modern presidents, projected magnificent moral clarity in the Cold War conflict but was extremely careful and parsimonious, as it were, in the use of American force.

This paradox is at the heart of the conservative appeal in national security. The more you desire peace, the more you should prepare for war.

There was a moment in Reagan’s presidency where he satirised himself by saying we are about to launch missiles against Russia, without realising that TV cameras and mikes were switched on. It was clearly and instantly communicated to the Russians that this was not a real statement. And of course the left-of-centre media went bananas against Reagan. Yet somehow or other, through the strange osmosis of popular media even back in those pre-internet days, it reinforced the message, to the Russians and everyone else that you better not mess with Reagan.

While of course it is almost an obscenity to compare the crude and at times repulsive Trump to Reagan, nonetheless there was certainly something of this military caution, buttressed by the threat of horrendously tough action if the president deemed it necessary, in Trump’s first term.

During this election, Trump has campaigned against the endless wars that he says the Democrats have got America involved in. Trump needs to be a bit careful here. If he gives Americans, and the world, the idea that it’s never worth America’s while to take military action unless its own sovereign territory is directly attacked, he could very well undermine his own greatest strategic strength.

But of course everyone knows that Trump can change direction on a dime. If a foreign power humiliates the Trump White House, Trump would almost certainly react very aggressively.

After this dramatic but low-content fantasy island campaign we’ve just had, it’s tempting to say that we have no idea how either Trump or Harris would actually govern. I might have said that myself. But on reflection they both have highly indicative records.

Trump was president for four years. Harris was Vice-President for four years. And as she herself says, there’s nothing that Joe Biden did as president that she would have done differently.

Nothing stands more starkly to Trump’s discredit than the way he egged on the mob on January 6. But before that his record as president was very defensible. He did pay for defence. He had a good economy. He made a strong effort to control US borders. The Abraham Accords were magnificent. The employment rates for blacks and Hispanics were at historic highs. And he was very good for Australia.

And although, in my view grotesquely, he often spoke flatteringly of China’s Xi Jinping and Russia’s Vladimir Putin, Xi and Putin found Trump extremely difficult to deal with.

Trump revolutionised US debate and policy on China and Biden mostly stuck with Trump’s China policy. Trump imposed more sanctions on Russia than any president had done; he strong­armed Western Europe into spending more on defence, a very bad development for Russia; and he pursued policies that created energy independence for the US, which put Washington in a position of greater leverage in all its key strategic relationships.

I don’t want to be misunderstood. I think Trump a gravely unsatisfactory political leader. His chaotic methods and his constant negotiations, while they are effective when he’s on his game, dangerously personalise strategic fundamentals. They also involve Trump frequently telling lies and reversing himself. Whereas for the whole of my life I had the idea that the word of an American president meant a great deal.

Harris’s record is truly awful. She has generally been the most left-wing senator and Democrat politician of them all. She didn’t make a big impression as veep because she never made a big impression on anything. She was fully caught up in the toxic identity politics of the California liberal left.

Biden seems to have chosen her because he promised to choose an African-American woman and because he judged that her mediocrity and general ineffectiveness meant she would never be a credible alternative to him. When he was elected, despite what he implied in some interviews, Biden always planned to stay for two terms. Having a weak Vice-President helped that.

Before his disastrous debate performance made his candidacy completely unviable, one of the main arguments among Democrats for keeping Biden in office was that replacing him would mean going to Harris and she had nothing to offer.

Harris’s career has been built on patronage and has always rested comfortably on the left. She has made a few stylistic gestures to Republican-inspired patriotism – such as having the Democratic convention chant “USA! USA!” But she still offers vast new spending and will go along with the left of her party. She’ll be Biden but worse.

Biden appointed many staffers, academics and NGO leaders to senior positions in his administration. They were mostly centrist or centre left.

Harris doesn’t like any of them because she was condemned to obscurity as Vice-President, given a few assignments she fluffed and then more or less hidden in protective custody. She will appoint fellow leftists plus Obama administration holdovers, leftovers and retreads.

There’s nothing in any of that to give any confidence to Australia. If Trump imposes the maximum tariffs he’s talking about, that would be highly disruptive. But Trump showed in his first term a great propensity finally to compromise. He can’t appoint extremists to his cabinet because they won’t be confirmed by the Senate. The Republicans at best will have a tiny majority, 51 or 52 to 49 or 48, in the Senate, whereas you need 60 votes to confirm a cabinet appointee.

America will survive under either president. Talk of civil war is nonsense. The very latest shift seems to favour Harris coming back against an earlier very narrow Trump lead. No one at this stage can predict the result. But of two wildly unsatisfactory candidates, Trump would likely be better for Australia.

Now, before you all pile on Greg, may I point out he’s one of the few in the less than stellar constellation of Australian public commentary who is courageous enough to publicly take this sensible position.

The only other one I can think of is Prof. David Flint, who is rather more ardent in his admiration of Trump than Sheridan.

If there’s anyone else let us know.

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Top Ender
Top Ender
November 5, 2024 8:53 am

Latest Cat predictions here:

Cat POTUS poll

Trump to win

484 – Bar Beach Swimmer
480 – Pogria
407 – John
P – 367
357 – AnotherRanga
347 – Vicki
330 – Perfidious Albino
327 – Wally Dalí
325 – Long Time Lurker
323 – Little Gidding
321 – Helen
320 – Cohenite
319 – Megan
318 – eb
317 – mizaris
313 – Chris
312 – Zippster, thefrollickingmole
310 – Beertruk
308 – Harlequin Decline, hzhousewife
307 – chrisl
306 – Digger
305 – Indolent, Old School Conservative
304 – Bill P
303 – Farmer Gez, Tom
302 – Makka
301 – zimlurog
300 – Tekweni, Brislurker
299 – Wivenhoe
298 – 132andBush
296 – mem
295 – Barking Toad
294 – Sancho Panzer
293 – Titus Groates
292 – Nelson_Kidd-Players
291 – Its Remarkable, Salvatore – Iron Publican
290 – Top Ender*
288 – Mak Siccar
287 – Carpe Jugulum
286 – Rosie
285 – Knuckle Dragger
283 – Lizzie
282 – Steve of Kenmore, Iron Cove
281– Roger
280 – calli
279 – Bruce in WA, Siltstone
278 – Winston Smith, Howie
275 – pete m
273 – Petros
272 – Delta A
271 – Vagabond, Colonel Crispin Berka
*not in comp. so will move progressively right if others want this spot

Harris to win

538 – Lysander
334 – Zafiro
320 – JC
315 – alwaysright
300 – Lawgi Dawes-Hall
298 – Monty
285 – Rafiki
280 – Barry
276 – Dr Faustus
273 – Gilas
272 – Davey Boy
 

Indolent
Indolent
November 5, 2024 8:54 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
November 5, 2024 8:56 am

How it works:

A reminder of the Cat POTUS poll….

Rules:

Choose the number of votes which will elect either Trump or Harris. So a typical choice would be “Trump to win, with 291.”

The time and date you make your choice will be recorded. So first in best dressed will get you your vote.

Note a second vote on the same POTUS number would put you in second place if you won.

Voting open now; closes with beginning of US voting

You can only vote ONCE, but you may change your vote

Prizes:

First placegetter gets a choice of either of my two latest works: Cyclone Warriors – the Armed Forces in Cyclone Tracy, or the 3rd edition of By Derwent Divided, the story of the Tasman Bridge disaster, both out now and commemorating the events of 50 years ago. 2nd placegetter gets the other one.

Prize will be signed and posted within Australia.

Indolent
Indolent
November 5, 2024 8:56 am
alwaysright
alwaysright
November 5, 2024 8:58 am

Sheridan is pitiful.

The knots, the knots …

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 5, 2024 9:00 am

Would like to see this overturned on appeal as in my opinion as a reasonable person, his honour appears biased. However Pauline would need a judge who actually is actually uncommitted.

“And when amid the plaintiff’s squeaks
The ruffianly defendant speaks
Upon the other side,
What she may say I needn’t mind.
From bias free of every kind,
This trial must be tried.”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 5, 2024 9:01 am

Possibly fluoride needs to be in the water rather than relying on it in toothpaste, Indolent, because the kids who are most likely to need a little fluoride don’t clean their teeth much, if at all. Toothpaste can be a luxury in some families where toothbrushing not a cultural habit. These are the families most lilkely to have a high-sugar diet too. Both of my parents had dentures by the time they were in their late twenties.

I didn’t own a toothbrush until I was fifteen (claiming seventeen) and purchased my own when I became a receptionist to a local doctor with a dentist in the suite behind him. In slack periods that kind old dentrist would call me and the other receptionist in to have our teeth filled for free. She was a slavic girl from the war-torn Balkans who looked like Melania Trump. Like me, she also lacked childhood dental care.

I am high maintenance in dental upkeep. Ask Hairy. I have three crowns and a bridge to boast about to anaesthetists when they ask.

Aude
Aude
November 5, 2024 9:02 am

I’d also bring back debates into school curricula. They are enormously valuable ways of getting people to see well-argued cases for opposing sides.I’d also bring back debates into school curricula. They are enormously valuable ways of getting people to see well-argued cases for opposing sides.

This is a good idea and probably more achievable, via individual teachers, than other, wholesale change within ‘the system’

Natural Instinct
Natural Instinct
November 5, 2024 9:04 am

More Iowa. The same polling company. Same time of dropping. And same regurgitation.

Republicans could lose two Iowa House seats. From Fox News:

Democrats have the upper hand in the 1st and 3rd Congressional Districts, while Republicans remain ahead among voters in the 2nd and 4th Districts, according to a new Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll.

Time will tell.
Someone wrote about polls like this are used tactically by Democrats.



calli
calli
November 5, 2024 9:09 am

From Sheridan

They also involve Trump frequently telling lies and reversing himself. Whereas for the whole of my life I had the idea that the word of an American president meant a great deal.

There it is again.

To take a leaf from The Iron Lady’s book – which lies? Which reversals? In what circumstances?

As for the “egging on” of the mob…bull. I watched his speech also, Mr Sheridan. Americans have a right to protest. They have no right to burn down cities and attack people in the street because they don’t like their politics or skin colour (oh that’s right, that was the other side for the better part of four years).

Just like his appearance on Bolt last night, Sheridan can’t say anything positive about Trump without banging on about perceived and folklore negatives.

Another legacy media commentator sensing his grip is slowly diminishing due to disruptors like Trump and Musk.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 5, 2024 9:10 am

I’d also bring back debates into school curricula. They are enormously valuable ways of getting people to see well-argued cases for opposing sides.
Great fun and genuinely comedic as they were, debating never had an audience at the PSA interschools in my time…
However, yer right, an essential part of education is getting kids to think that the evidence being presented by a source, person, or even inhuman experiment, might be erroneous, biased, or outright corrupted.
Mine kids definitely aren’t getting that. The Australian curriculum is chockers with confirmation bias, built upon anti-enlightenment guilt and djinnthink.
However, firstborn is getting a subject prize at speech night, so it can’t be all bogus. I just hope it’s for a hard science, even though sciences and even maths is corrupted.

calli
calli
November 5, 2024 9:11 am

Polls are used at this stage of the game to get out the vote. Earlier, they’re used to bring in the money.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 5, 2024 9:13 am

Once upon a time, the good and virtuous people from some small town went all in on the current thing.
So great was their virtue, the national broadcaster slipped them a People of the Year Award.
Funny how things turned out.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 5, 2024 9:15 am
Cassie of Sydney
November 5, 2024 9:17 am

Tucker Carlson had the whole story. The media did not.

Tucker Carlson gave a platform to a self styled dope historian (cough) who thinks Adolf Hitler was the good guy in World War II and Winston Churchill was the bad guy. The media did not.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 5, 2024 9:22 am

johanna November 4, 2024 5:39 pm

But, it’s a sinister trend, where technology requires us to buy their updated.

I had to junk my TV when digital TVs came in, and buy a new one.

I had to junk my mobile phone recently, and buy a new one.

Now I am getting messages on the TV that they are doing something or other, and I may have to buy a new TV.

Basta!

Oh well, that’s technology for you. If we were all happy with four channels plus SBS we could have stuck with analogue. 🙂

It’s true the newer technologies don’t hang around as long. You could still listen to AM radio on a working 1930’s radiogramme or crystal set. The analogue TV standard lasted from 1956 and even the transition to colour was backwards-compatible. Bring a nerd, I watched the shutdown of analogue TV. No razzmatazz, just image, bzzt, snow on all stations within a few seconds of each other.Bruce Gyngell was not required.

I’m still running my Panasonic Viera plasma at home and it shall likely last as we don’t use it all the time and when it is in use it’s likely to be playing a DVD or streaming from an external device. I anticipated that I’d have it a while but didn’t anticipate the industry that stuck to one basic standard for the whole analogue run would not do the same for digital. However a new video encoding standard rendered my TV obsolete in a few years. 🙁 Fortunately, I found a PVR that, in addition to hard-disk recording, DVD and Blu-ray, has a tuner so the system works how I want it, even if I’m still not free of the ‘set-top box’.

My Mum is still happy with an analogue tube TV and a box – doesn’t want to change.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 5, 2024 9:26 am

and re Democracy Sausage from this time yersterday-
Calli, I wasn’t trying to tick off anyone in particular, I was just piping up that from my experience, “democracy sausage” came outta nowhere and was suddenly all over the ABC-Sunrise With Karl axis. For some reason I’m hyperaware of neologisms, and I am very wary of what seems to be co-ordinated groupthink. Maybe it’s just low-rent talking heads reaching for an easy bit of foam filler for their time on air… maybe it’s dumbing down the serious sanctity of elections in a dynamic “democracy” in which the Lizard People seem to be coldly willing to stack courts and ignore constitutions.
And maybe it’s just never happened in my corner of the corner for some reason. Small halls means we’re under the threshhold for an economic sausage sizzle fundraiser.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 5, 2024 9:27 am

I shouldn’t laugh, really I shouldn’t.

People with Harris Signs in Panic After Receiving Letters and Postcards Thanking Them for ‘Volunteering’ to House Migrant Families (3 Nov)

Kamala Harris supporters across the country have been left rattled after receiving letters and postcards suggesting they will be “volunteering” to house migrant families. While Democrats have championed open borders and humanitarian migrant policies, it seems when the issue is brought to their own doorsteps—literally—enthusiasm fades. One Harris supporter in Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, was shocked after receiving what appeared to be a postcard from Harris’s campaign. When she flipped it over, the message informed her that a family of migrants from Nicaragua would be moving into her home, even specifying the date and listing food and transportation needs.

Have admire great trolling when I see it. Perhaps they could announce that a wind turbine will be built in their back yard as well?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 5, 2024 9:33 am

Daniel

27 minutes ago
This has been done before and it didn’t work. As for the headline “To hang about”, the last thing diggers do is “hang about”. As a former infantry soldier of 15 years, the diggers spend 7-8 months of each year away from home either on exercises in some dusty and hot training area, on a course in another state, or on some international engagement in the pacific region. Anyone that is financially savvy will not take the “extra” $40,000 because most of that will go to tax. ADF personnel leave for many reasons, but mostly because their mates leave or because they are so injured they can barely get out of bed and the green machine stops for nothing, so there’s no thine to actually recover. The ADF is been driven into the ground and all Albo can think of is give them extra cash. Lazy solution.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 5, 2024 9:35 am

Tim Blair: How to bluff your way through the US election

Study Tim Blair’s handy bluffing guide and you’ll soon be sounding like a complete expert on all matters relating to the 2024 US?election.

Have you ignored all of?this year’s US election campaign shenanigans?

Did you scorn the speeches, dodge the debates and even avoid knowing anything about two assassination attempts?

Well, congratulations. That must have been one hell of a nap.

But the day of election judgment now draws near, and you’re going to be a sad and lonely Joe if you’re unable to share a whole binload of background and information about current vice president Kamala Harris, former president Donald Trump and their battle to become the 47th president of the United States.

So let’s quickly get you up to speed, beginning with:

What is the correct pronunciation of “Kamala”?

According to her office, it’s “comma-la”. But even former Democrat president and White House dress decorator Bill Clinton still gets it wrong, referring in a recent speech to “cam-a-la”. To solve this dilemma, I’ve tried to popularise “Wino McCackleberry”.

No luck so far.

Maybe play it safe by sticking to Harris’s simpler surname. As for Donald Trump, his name is pronounced exactly as it is spelled. But if you have problems reading, just call him Hitler or Satan or whatever leftist scare-baby slur is currently popular at the ABC.

How does the Electoral College work?

The Electoral College assigns a number of votes for each US state that in total decide who becomes president. The target is 270 votes.

Leftists claim the college is undemocratic because it gives greater proportional weight to smaller, better states rather than to the likes of cesspool California or neurotoxified New York.

Rational people, however, recognise the absolute genius of the Electoral College for exactly the same reason. Nobody in the civilised US interior wants to live by San Francisco rules, under which public parks, public footpaths and public toilets are all the same thing.

Kamala Harris is from San Francisco, by the way. She was a public official there.

What are these seven “battleground states” all the papers keep talking about?

Because 43 of the 50 US states are assumed to be locked in for either Harris or Trump, it falls to Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin to decide this race.

It could be that one candidate or other narrowly sweeps all seven battlegrounds, thus achieving a landslide win via relatively tiny margins. That’s when the cheatin’ talk begins.

What’s the story with Tim Walz?

Democrat vice presidential candidate Tim Walz is a perfectly normal fellow with no peculiar mannerisms, no alarming facial expressions and no habit of putting his foot so far into his mouth that there are toe prints on the inside of his occipital bone.

Also, Walz’s wife Gwen is completely stable. There is no need to check this on YouTube. Carry on.

But isn’t Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance meant to be the weird one?

As mentioned in his memoir Hillbilly Elegy, Vance is from such authentic hillbilly stock that his grandmother once shot a man who was trying to steal the family cow. She?was just 12 years old at the time.

To anyone sharing my level of white trash DNA, children shooting a cow thief sounds powerfully relatable. Weird would be buying an EV.

Help! I need election trivia to stall people when the count goes quiet!

Easy as, my friend. Keep these up your bluffing sleeve: Minnesota, where Walz is governor, was the only state not to vote for Ronald Reagan in his 1984 re-election victory.

Reagan carried 49 states and brought home 525 Electoral College votes during a period of history now known as “the best of times”.

By rights, 33rd president of the US Harry S Truman should never have an abbreviating full stop after the “S”. That’s because the S is his full middle name, Truman being born poor.

As of the current date, Truman remains the only US president to have both run a haberdashery and obliterated two Japanese cities with nuclear weapons. Bonus trivia points: the haberdashery was in Kansas City, which isn’t in Kansas.

What happens next?

Depends on the winner. If Harris is elected, there may be speculation in certain areas about voting discrepancies and the like. There definitely will be speeches about healing – a natural follow-up after smearing opposition voters as Nazis.

If Trump is elected, there will also be speeches about bringing a divided America together. Then, if Democrats are to be believed, everyone who ever criticised Trump will be rounded up and put in camps.

There you have it, people. Please enjoy the show here at The Daily Telegraph and at Sky News. Zero bluffing zones, both of them.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 5, 2024 9:35 am

Anyway, the demand for new features keeps pushing things along and ‘smart’ technology brings evolving standards but also the need to support the old stuff which no-one wants to do forever, since it’s no longer what we so with the new stuff and how many times are we going to go back to that old software (with it’s old development tools, test environment, and coding and documentation that no-one quite understands any more), open it up, make the changes, verify, validate on the few bits of ‘old’* hardware that we kept for that purpose (where did we put them?) and hope we didn’t accidentally ‘break’ some other function in the process.

Hence, we are where we are. 🙂

* Old, as in what we’re currently developing to release is current, current production is ‘old’ and we’ve already started to forget what we did, and if it’s out of production it’s ancient but hopefully Steve remembers enough to handle whatever we have to do with it until Steve leaves and we throw it over to young Declan and hope for the best.

Rosie
Rosie
November 5, 2024 9:37 am

Toothbrushes are a generational thing.
My dad’s family all had false teeth as adults, by their early twenties. Very common.
Toothbrushing only became a thing after world war two in the US and Australia. Possibly still optional in the UK.
In Australia widescale preventative care was introduced in the 1960s, I have vague memories of being taken to a dental van at the local state school, an excursion from my overcrowded Catholic primary school.
My parents forked out for regular dental care, including orthodontics, even though there were seven of us in a single income family.

Rosie
Rosie
November 5, 2024 9:38 am

Anyone with Melbourne Cup tips?

Roger
Roger
November 5, 2024 9:38 am

The ADF is been driven into the ground and all Albo can think of is give them extra cash. Lazy solution.

Bereft of a plan to reform the economy, cash splashes are all Labor’s got…

Politics is now on a collision course over competing economic plans

Simon Benson, The Australian, 4th November 2024

To quote…the late political journalist Alan Reid, there may be a “dry grass” moment coming for Anthony Albanese – when all that is required is a match and the whole show goes up in flames. To be fair, there have been several of those moments for the Prime Minister before this latest conflagration of self-ignited chaos. He has survived them all. But Albanese’s attempt to grab a hose at the weekend (satire intended) with a $20bn student debt bailout has potentially exposed a deeper problem for Labor.

Politics in Australia has come to a future-defining fork in the road. Competing economic, social and foreign policy approaches are now abundantly evident and aggressively disputed.

Opposition Treasury spokesman Angus Taylor describes the two paths as one of prosperity and one of poverty for the nation. He is convinced the public has come to the view that the reason their standard of living is in free fall is a result of Labor’s poor economic management.

Labor’s approach on the other hand is wedded to a traditional belief that people remain bound to government handouts as the answer to their problems.

Has Angus Taylor finally found his voice?

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 5, 2024 9:39 am

Serendipity: tapping out an extended reply to Johanna’s technology moan while in the Bunnings carpark (wife inside getting seeds) and getting the satisfaction of instantly recognising the bass line of Six Blade Knife by Dire Straits which could be momentarily heard emanating from another car for a couple of seconds. Earworm!

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
November 5, 2024 9:48 am

The media still rabbit on about “no evidence of voter fraud” either now or in 2020.
I watched the entire multi-day symposium after the 2020 debacle, funded by Mike Lindell but featuring some powerful analysis. Fast forward to today and we see the same sort of shenanigans happening, often in Blue States, but not solely. Gateway Pundit has been covering this.

Let me know when any of our fearless pursuers of truth log in and expose voter fraud large or small. Has anyone noticed that the passwords for some of the voting machines were widely available? Do you recall years ago they said these machines were not connected to the internet? They were.

Lots of ballots are sloshing around, mostly counterfeit. Who is telling you this in the MSM?

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 5, 2024 9:50 am

if Democrats are to be believed, everyone who ever criticised Trump will be rounded up and put in camps.

Idea!
Tim Blair could be on to something here.

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
November 5, 2024 9:51 am

Anyone with Melbourne Cup tips?

Not the propitious moment to stage a coup it once was, I fear.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 5, 2024 9:52 am

Possibly fluoride needs to be in the water rather than relying on it in toothpaste
Still a bizarre idea. Probably would not get up nowadays if it wasn’t being done.
Good teeth can be genetic. Had a mate at uni who had bad teeth, his brother, two years younger had perfect teeth. Same household same diet.
Dental hygiene nowadays is a different matter from 60 years ago what with all the Karens around and all.

Tom
Tom
November 5, 2024 9:53 am

The current media rights deal for the four-day Melbourne Cup carnival now underway is quite bizarre.

The Victoria Racing Club reportedly will earn up to $50 million from the Nine Network for the rights to broadcast the four-day Melbourne Cup carnival in the six years from 2024 to 2029.

But the Victorian racing industry now has its own channel, racing.com, which is associated with the Seven Network and broadcasts from Channel 78.

Under the terms of the TV rights deal, Seven merely has to restrict access to Racing.com so its Foxtel channel 529 will be suspended on the four days of the Flemington carnival.

But you’ll still be able to watch all of the races in the Flemington carnival on Channel 78.

In other words, diehard racing fans don’t need to bother with Ed Maguire’s Hollywood version of the carnival and can watch it all on the racing purists’ station.

The old idea of exclusive rights where all competing TV vision is banned is a thing of the past when it comes to horse racing.

Meanwhile, the Seven Network free-to-air channel will televise today’s Randwick meeting, which features the $3 million pop-up race, the Big Dance for three-year-olds over 1600 metres — the latest edition of the prizemoney war between Peter V’landys’s Racing NSW and Racing Victoria.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 5, 2024 9:54 am

Anyone with Melbourne Cup tips?

Who cares? The fate of Western Civilisation and possibly civilisation at all hangs in the balance.

Roger
Roger
November 5, 2024 9:56 am

So that’s Flint, Sheridan and a begrudging Bolt for Trump.

We can probably pencil in Adam Creighton.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 5, 2024 9:57 am

Anyway, the demand for new features keeps pushing things along and ‘smart’ technology brings evolving standards

I, for one, welcome our new AI masters.

Who Needs Humans? Harvard Researchers Advocate for Polling AI Instead of Voters (4 Nov)

A recent article from the Harvard Kennedy School Ash Center reports that in recent years, the efficacy of traditional political polling techniques has come under scrutiny. Declining response rates and the potential for respondents to provide inauthentic answers have led to questions about the reliability of poll results. However, researchers believe the rise of AI could offer a solution to these problems, potentially transforming the way political campaigns and movements gauge public opinion.

Ok, no I don’t, because every single AI that has so far been developed is lefty.

Every Leading Large Language Model Leans Left Politically (14 Aug)

Roger
Roger
November 5, 2024 10:00 am

Not a very promising start for Tory leader Kemi Badenoch:

Kemi Badenoch’s new Shadow Education Minister, Neil O’Brien, backed keeping schools closed during Covid lockdowns and said Prof. Sunetra Gupta and other lockdown sceptics “have a hell of a lot to answer for”. 

via The Telegraph (UK)

Sounds like the rhetoric is covering business as usual. Jenrick, a Trump admirer, offered more promise for real change.

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Miltonf
Miltonf
November 5, 2024 10:09 am

Spiked seems to like her. Breitbart doesn’t.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 5, 2024 10:11 am

The fate of Western Civilisation and possibly civilisation at all hangs in the balance.

My thought at the 2020 election.

This election is our last chance.

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