Open Thread – Weekend 3 Sept 2021


The Course of Empire-Destruction, Thomas Cole, 1836

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Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 10:13 am

“Delta Asays:
September 6, 2021 at 9:56 am
What ensued last night on Dash Cat was a disgrace.

More than that, Cassie. It was dangerous.

Bird openly threatened Carpe with death. The comment and many subsequent, similar posts have finally been removed.”

I missed that……what ensued last night was a disgrace…which is why I no longer post there. Sancho is right…..Bird’s anti-Semitism is deliberate, calculated and vicious.

Tom
Tom
September 6, 2021 10:13 am

Sancho Panzersays:
September 6, 2021 at 9:51 am

Brilliant summary.

Essential reading for those wanting to understand trolls, leftism and blog-wrecking.

John Brumble
John Brumble
September 6, 2021 10:19 am

Cassie, the old “stick alcoholics at the end of the line” rhetoric seems reasonable. Until you realise that it’s just another nanny-state definition game.

If I tell you that the effective definition of drinking too much is currently “drinking more than would put you over the driving limit at any time”, do you still take that stance?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 6, 2021 10:20 am

Passport narrative unwinding in Sydney as it did in Israel.
21% of the 172 in ICU are jabbed.
This will climb in coming weeks, hence the scramble by desperate politicians to set conditions for the double dosed parolees.

P
P
September 6, 2021 10:22 am

Anthony Fauci Face the Nation 9-5-2021
He talks Covid boosters, vaccinations for kids, whether you can mix and match Moderna and Pfizer, the efficacy of the vaccines against the Delta variant. I was hoping she’d ask him about the fatality rate of vaccinated vs unvaccinated people but she didn’t.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 10:24 am

Bird openly threatened Carpe with death. The comment and many subsequent, similar posts have finally been removed.”

I missed that……what ensued last night was a disgrace…

He threatened Carpe and Rex several times.
Olympic standard dolly out of the pram tanty.
And before the hand-patters* get started, Bird is not our sponsor child and we are not responsible for his welfare.
Ditto Ellie.
.
* h/t Mr Dragger.

Roger
Roger
September 6, 2021 10:24 am

Greens leader Adam Bandt said “big corporations making big profits should pay more tax”

When will the idiots who sit on corporate boards wake up to the fact that the Greens are not their friends and will not be placated by the woke-green measures they increasingly impose upon their employees and customers? I note the Coles Group is the latest to lurch towards the Green Left agenda.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 6, 2021 10:25 am

Muddy, if you’re around, I may have thought of a new word – (I qualify my statement by saying I may be too slow and already someone may have coined it).

Politidemic

A non-health pandemic, which is caused by politicians and CMOs.

cohenite
September 6, 2021 10:26 am

Great toons; Payne and Garrison the best; Varvel 1 a bit strange.

In other news, scomo should do what the chunk panda is doing to the slime-bag biden:

China ‘tells US envoy John Kerry it will follow its own climate road map’

What a grub biden is:

US Marine on the Ground in Kabul Says Biden Admin Filled Planes with Unvetted Afghans – Those with Papers were Left Behind — NY Times Confirms Afghans Were Unvetted

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
September 6, 2021 10:27 am

Bird openly threatened Carpe with death. The comment and many subsequent, similar posts have finally been removed.”
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I had been baiting him for several days with the Nano Wriggler commentary so I guess I have some responsibility for the epic meltdown that happened. The path he was on deserved to be mocked, however, he can be quite interesting on some science & technology subjects and can write quite well in economics when motivated

On the other cat I made clear that I EDC with a double stack 380 (when I am away working), and keep pistols in the house when I am at home so I don’t get bothered by keyboard threats.

cohenite
September 6, 2021 10:29 am

He threatened Carpe and Rex several times.
Olympic standard dolly out of the pram tanty.
And before the hand-patters* get started, Bird is not our sponsor child and we are not responsible for his welfare.
Ditto Ellie.

Correct. The blog is not a help line. Bird needs help and sedation. The blog should not be used to express distress; except by head prefect of course. That’s funny.

cohenite
September 6, 2021 10:30 am

On the other cat I made clear that I EDC with a double stack 380 (when I am away working), and keep pistols in the house when I am at home so I don’t get bothered by keyboard threats.

So, you live in Texas.

Roger
Roger
September 6, 2021 10:32 am

US Marine on the Ground in Kabul Says Biden Admin Filled Planes with Unvetted Afghans – Those with Papers were Left Behind — NY Times Confirms Afghans Were Unvetted

Note well, Morrison and Co., for the day when the US government calls and asks us to take some of them.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 6, 2021 10:35 am

There was that thing about Facebook labelling part of the American Constitution ‘hate-speech’.

I gather they have apologised, but more serious than labelling it as such is that they saw it as such.

What was the section that triggered their political censoriousness?

Bruce in WA
September 6, 2021 10:42 am

Guarantee this will be the first of many …

Spotlight and Anaconda staff punished if they don’t get jab

Thousands of staff at one of Australia’s biggest retail groups could miss out on end-of-year incentives if they refuse to get the Covid-19 vaccine.

Retail giant Spotlight Group has informed staff via internal email they won’t receive their Christmas bonus if they don’t show proof of vaccination to their manager.

The decision impacts on staff at hundreds of Spotlight, Anaconda, Harris Scarfe and Mountain Designs stores across Australia.

The staff memo was leaked to 2GB breakfast host Ben Fordham, who described the decision as a step too far as he read out the email on his show on Monday morning.

calli
calli
September 6, 2021 10:48 am

Great.

Spotlight off my shopping list.

Small merchants only. Lord knows they need the business.

Roger
Roger
September 6, 2021 10:54 am

Great.

Spotlight off my shopping list.

Let them know why, calli.

Heat needs to be applied:

[email protected]

Phone: +61 (0) 3 9425 9111
Or 0418 530 848

Arky
September 6, 2021 10:55 am

Spotlight off my shopping list.

..
One of the worst retail experiences on the planet.
Whatever those idiots do to their staff to make them disinterested, sullen and soporifically indifferent to the large queues that form, I don’t know, but it must be pretty bad.

calli
calli
September 6, 2021 10:56 am

I’ve had a Spotlight card since they first started trading. Mid eighties, so that makes it almost 40 years. Thousands of dollars spent.

Goodbye.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 10:59 am

Oho.

Font and structure freak out.

Arky
September 6, 2021 10:59 am

I think there is probably more joy and energy in a Burundi animal dung and leprosy market than is generated in Spotlight.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
September 6, 2021 11:01 am
srr
srr
September 6, 2021 11:03 am

calli says:
September 6, 2021 at 6:13 am

Sinc, who actively got in the way of others keeping the old cat going

____________________

He did not. Jacques decided to pull the pin after many years of hosting. Transferring that role was proposed but was not possible for technical reasons.

If you were lurking day in, day out for the final days you would know this. Please don’t smear someone who was courageous enough to use his real name.

_______________________________________________

So, all that time before the shutdown, when Sinc knew it coming but didn’t give a heads up, when C.L. was trying to work something out, reporting that he’d report when he got news either way, not being able to work something out, Dot and others madly scrambling to get something sorted & no help from Sinc, them AdamD getting this up with a lot of the old stuff, that WASN’T Sinc actively getting in the way of, ‘Team New Cat Just Like The Old Cat’, beating AdamD to running “Catallaxy Files, Australia’s Leading Libertarian and Centre-Right Blog.”?

Did AdamD just win a race that Sinc didn’t tell his loyalists they were having?

Yeah OK, Jacque wasn’t playing with the Sinc loyalists either. Why?

Why no timely heads up?

These are all rhetorical questions because they’ve all been asked & gone unanswered. As for “technical reasons”, who the hell still buys that old smoke? Especially after AdamD managed to bag all that was baggable of the old cat.

Anyway, there was Graeme Bird going off tap and grossly offending all the ‘good’ cats who for some reason couldn’t help going there, for more doses of the same (despite most declaring Dover’s cat their home because of G.B.), and then running back to Dover’s to slag off at AdamD, Again.

What is the REAL Reason so many who are happy with Dover’s cat, HAVE to keep MONITORING AdamD’s cat.

When it was Sinc PROMOTING & Protecting, Potential Greatness Turnbull, Shanghai Sam Dastyari, Bring In Gay Marriage Wilson, Don’t Mention Shorten’s Being Investigated, amongst lots that got up cat’s noses, it was all, ‘Hey, it’s Sinc’s Blog, he can do what he likes!’
Not the same curtesy for AdamD.
You who hate AdamD’s cat have no need to go there.
Dover’s is G.B. safe, you, we all love it here.

Some of us like reading the posts of other’s who don’t come to Dover’s, and share some of it with the Dover cats who simply can’t bear scrolling through Bird’s posts. You’d think that would be seen as nice thing to do, and it is, when anyone else does it.

Arky
September 6, 2021 11:04 am

I could get two elephant turds for the price of one OR line up at Spotlight?
What’s that? Free leprosy? I’m there.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 6, 2021 11:06 am

I would not be surprised (or saddened) to see lawsuits from employees after Covid goes out of fashion.

When people start trying to rebuild some degree of normality the government will want to distance itself from some of the wreckage and minimise blame.

There will be plenty from which they will simply not be able to deny, so what the private sector does that they were not required by law or restriction those companies will have to wear.

Don’t get me wrong – the government has whipped up a frenzy, and as I have said previously they are trying to impose restrictions in everyway they can short of actually passing laws. They have dragooned individuals and businesses to act on their behalf instead. Perhaps they will learn a lesson.

There will be another ‘covid’ (or ‘SARS’, or ‘Bird flu’, or…) in about six or seven years.

calli
calli
September 6, 2021 11:08 am

Roger. Sent.

It has come to my attention that your company policy now encompasses the coercive tactic of denying staff end of year bonuses unless they are vaccinated against Covid19.

This is well outside the scope of any business owner to either mandate or even “nudge” staff in this direction – it is a personal responsibility only. The law forbids HIV status or any other medical condition being used in this way for a reason. Why not simply encourage them if that is what management wants, rather than punish them?

I have been a customer since the chain first opened their store in Castle Hill in the 80’s. No longer. My conscience will not permit me to spend money at a business that uses these coercive tactics on their staff. I hope you examine your own consciences and review this policy. Should you do so, I will happily shop with you again.

Only a small thing, but many…many others should do it too.

The buggers only sent me a sale notice this morning! Grrrrrr.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 11:10 am

rsssrsrr:

You are, of course, correct.

It was all a giant Pacific Ocean-crossing conspiracy. All of it, all aimed AT yOu.

Is it fun, living in a Dan Brown novel?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 11:10 am

Did AdamD just win a race that Sinc didn’t tell his loyalists they were having?

What uniforms do Sinc Loyalists wear?
Are they the ones in sarongs?
Or the togas?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 6, 2021 11:11 am

So, yes, he has some issues with delusional paranoia.
But his anti-Semitism is deliberate, calculated and vicious.

I agree. But his anti-Semitism is also part of his delusional status, a ‘blaming’ world view, even though he can control it and vicious as it is, and even though we see that such a fixation may be culturally endorsed. It is the threats that count. With regard to the ‘intelligence services’ as someone said above being aware of this powder-keg, I doubt it. Something has to publicly blow for people like Bird to come to public attention, and then it is the police who are called in. The police do have a group called The Fixated Persons Unit (I think that’s it), and it is these people to whom Bird shoud be reported if he continues, but they need to know about the fixation. They keep an eye on those who make threats to others online and off and who are suspected of having violent fantasies which they may end up acting out, but only if these people are reported to them by those to whom threats of violence have been made. They can’t act just on suspicions. Obsessions such as Bird holds often centre around one particular issue or person. Man Monis was a classic who should have been less able to slip under the radar. Sinc was very wise to fix the Cat so that it excluded Bird and Adam should too. Nothing to do with freedom of expression, just self-protection and blog protection.

Roger
Roger
September 6, 2021 11:12 am

Roger. Sent.

The emojis aren’t working for me but I’m smiling and you’ve got a thumbs up.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 11:14 am

‘Or the togas?’

Coincidentally and amazingly, a toga with buttons is referred to as a ‘cardigan’.

calli
calli
September 6, 2021 11:15 am

Lol. Should have used “has now adopted”. Cranky pants does that to you.

Bruce in WA
September 6, 2021 11:15 am

Interesting poll results from newsdotcomdotau

Lockdowns should end in Australia …

• Today 64 %
• When 70 per cent of the adult population is double vaxxed 11 %
• When 80 per cent of the adult population is double vaxxed 18 %
• When a vaccine has been approved for children under 12 7 %

141325 votes

calli
calli
September 6, 2021 11:17 am

I want a sarong like Dorothy Lamour’s. And a hibiscus flower behind the ear.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 11:18 am

What uniforms do Sinc Loyalists wear?
Are they the ones in sarongs?
Or the togas?

Mankinis, of course.
With red shoes.
Made from the brain membranes of Gentile children.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 11:19 am

It’s happening.
The RBA shrunk the size of its balance sheet by 2.1% last week.
First weekly drop since January 2021.

As flagged by some people smarter than me, the RBA, the treasury & the government are not on the same page.
Fun times ahead.
PS, even the retards at APRA are singing from a different song sheet.

Roger
Roger
September 6, 2021 11:20 am

When a vaccine has been approved for children under 12 7 %

Even Palaszczuk has backed away from that one.

Two cheers for democracy!

I imagine she can’t get Young into Government House quickly enough!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 11:21 am

The police do have a group called The Fixated Persons Unit (I think that’s it), and it is these people to whom Bird shoud be reported if he continues, but they need to know about the fixation.

I would put good money on that having already happened.
And multiple reports from different sources I would guess.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 6, 2021 11:22 am

Made from the brain membranes of Gentile children.

Best are free range Gentiles, but in a pinch you can use battery gentiles but you have to ramp up the seasoning a bit to make up for the more bland flavour.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 6, 2021 11:26 am

Massa Dan be sayin’, he gonna let da rural folk outta de quarters iffin we be promisin’ not to be singin’ n’ dancing’.
Bless ol’ Massa Dan.

Tom
Tom
September 6, 2021 11:28 am

Only a small thing, but many…many others should do it too.

Yep. If you don’t take the time to write a letter to a supplier about its bad behaviour, you’re inviting more of it.

Big business now sees itself as an activist organisation pushing Big Government/Big Business ideology onto the little people.

Check out the latest consumer ad from BHP, trying to pretend it’s one of the cool kids who believe in climate change and all the other Marxist fads, even though it’s Australia’s biggest miner.

srr
srr
September 6, 2021 11:32 am

Knuckle Dragger says:
September 6, 2021 at 10:31 am

srrs:

Sinc didn’t have to give anyone a heads up about closing his blog.  Because it was HIS.

____________________________________________

Exactly, he didn’t have to, didn’t want to and didn’t, yet that offended calli to the point where she had to lash out at me. Like a child who hates mummy because daddy left them.

Meanwhile, this is AdamD’s, yet it hasn’t stopped people slagging him off from the get go, even though they have a choice of other cats, where they do go to slag off AdamD.

Sad, so many cry about a country & world being divided into Jabbed=Acceptable People & Un-Jabbed=The Un-Personed, while practicing the same evil on these blogs.

You rant about Jew Hate (an obvious evil only the twisted support), while you treat others, “not of your accepted circles”, with the same vile, bitter, twisted, obsessive hatred that Jew Haters spew against Jews.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
September 6, 2021 11:34 am

So, you live in Texas.
*******************
Live in Japan, work in PNG

calli
calli
September 6, 2021 11:36 am

Oh, good grief. The argument has gone from the carpark and into the front parlour.

Mind the antimacassars! And no hurling the Spode!

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 11:37 am

I thought I smelt betel nut.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 11:37 am

ssrssrs:

Seriously. Get some sleep.

That will give the Stonecutters (International Chapter, Tunnel Division) another opportunity to refine their latest plan to stop you in your tracks, but you can’t let that get in the way of a snooze when required.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 6, 2021 11:38 am

Mole, if you’re about, the other half’s employer advised that it will not be pursuing mandatory vaccinations within the workforce. (The information came from a significant office within the HR office).

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 11:38 am

Sips coffee and wonders which red button KD pushed.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 11:38 am

You’ve got it all wrong, srrssrs.

I don’t hate you at all.

You’re funny. You amuse me.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
September 6, 2021 11:38 am

I’d be very grateful if you’d all get vaxxed. And vaxxed again. And after that, again. And again. Graphite (graphene) stocks going great guns.
Dot, in CAD news, lots of theoretically gold-bearing rock found. Yet to be seen if it can be extracted. Up a smidg.
Morning memes just to marginal to post. Safe-ish.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 11:40 am

Is there an argument Calli?

Seems more like obsessing incomprehensible being rightly mocked.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 6, 2021 11:42 am

Great toons; Payne and Garrison the best; Varvel 1 a bit strange.

I take Calli’s point that there’s not a lot that’s really funny in the toons lately. However, there is a lot that sends up all sorts of wrongs, so we have a Soviet sort of jesting, which is all to the good.

I did like the Knight one of the poor old granddad on Father’s Day. The letter from his son was written in Copperplate. I learned to do those elaborate ‘D’s years ago in primary school. The look Knight captured on granddad’s face was classic; a mix of grimness at having to have Father’s Day separated from his son and his grandchildren, yet a certain sort of self-satisfaction there too at having chopped Dan Andrews in half on the tele with his son’s present of a hedge-cutter.

That at least raised a smile in me. Laugh Out Loud hilarious will come sometime soon.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
September 6, 2021 11:42 am

feelthebern says:
September 6, 2021 at 11:37 am

I thought I smelt betel nut.
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You know you are back at work when you see the red blobs on the ground and the yellow eyes on people.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 6, 2021 11:43 am

Even Palaszczuk has backed away from that one.

Bet it scared the ka-ka out of her to realise that the voters exist between elections.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 6, 2021 11:49 am

I am putting off reading the new washing machine’s manual. Hairy’s just gone for his second AZ jab. He expects me to have put some washing on before he returns. It. Is. A. Test, he says. Of me, I suspect.

Nothing is, as yet, self-evident. I am fond of buttons that say START or PUSH.
This one’s German and there is nothing like that on it. Nothing at all, in fact.
You WILL read ze manual and you WILL like it. It is VERBOTEN to refuse ze manual.

Clearly an inside job from the UN.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 11:49 am

I am not a QE shill like Bern and JC (LOL j/k), but cutting money supply now is insane.

The economy is starting to implode, and NOW they cut money supply.

FMD.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 11:52 am

“Anyway, there was Graeme Bird going off tap and grossly offending all the ‘good’ cats who for some reason couldn’t help coming here for more doses of the same (despite most declaring Dover’s cat their home because of G.B.), and then running back to Dover’s to slag off at AdamD, Again.”

That’s Mrs Nong’s description of an anti-Semite who last night posted the most vicious slurs about people like me…..and Mrs Nong is admitting she’s not offended by Bird.

She’s a festering disgrace. No wonder Sinc banned her. She needs to rack off to her pizza filled nut house.

srr
srr
September 6, 2021 11:53 am

Listen to yourselves, doing what you have always done.
You make shit up, nail it to those you want isolated & unpersoned, then repeat, repeat, repeat for ever more, and somehow still think you’re both clever and righteous, when you’re only behaving like the standard baddies, every time people wake up & wonder, “God, how did we get here?”

Sancho Panzersays:
September 6, 2021 at 11:18 am

What uniforms do Sinc Loyalists wear?
Are they the ones in sarongs?
Or the togas?

Mankinis, of course.
With red shoes.
Made from the brain membranes of Gentile children.

Really, how do you not see the shit you do is NO DIFFERENT to how Jew Hate is spread?

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 11:53 am

“Seems more like obsessing incomprehensible being rightly mocked.”

Quite, calling Nong a nut is an insult to nuts.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 11:55 am

Knuckle Draggersays:

September 6, 2021 at 11:38 am

You’ve got it all wrong, srrssrs.

I don’t hate you at all.

You’re funny. You amuse me.

I think that is what blew up Thor.
He doesn’t really believe the wriggler stuff.
What he does believe is that, with his alleged towering intellect, he can convince lesser mortals of anything with his science-babble.
He can handle the lesser beings not grasping his superior Sheldon-science.
It was the ridicule from Carpe, Rex and the Prof which he couldn’t take.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 11:57 am

Dot, in CAD news, lots of theoretically gold-bearing rock found. Yet to be seen if it can be extracted. Up a smidg.

Yeah. May need cyanide leaching.

Hopefully Gina & BHP buy out CAD & DEG.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 6, 2021 11:58 am

Cassie – do you have srr Derangement Syndrome (sDS)?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 6, 2021 11:59 am

He gazed up at the enormous face. Two years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the hatchet-like schnoz. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Gladys.

Winston Smith
September 6, 2021 11:59 am

132andbush:

Two things about that study.

One thing about all the studies is that they are now so compromised by political and ideological factors as to be worthless.
The lack of trust in government and their cronies would be, I think, a major factor in the vaxine resistance.
If the vaxines were so effective, there would just be the fringe resistance. The secondary dishonest labelling of the sceptics as ‘anti vaccers’ has made resistance more likely.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 11:59 am

‘Forward Battery Raptor to Supreme Command.’
‘This is SUCOM. Go ahead.’

‘It’s rssrsrss, General. I think it’s discovered Plan Alpha.’
‘Goddammit Jenkins! Unperson it immediately!’

‘Roger SUCOM. 81A, fire mission.’

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 12:00 pm

Really, how do you not see the shit you do is NO DIFFERENT to how Jew Hate is spread?

You really are a little miffed that Bird got booted from Dash-cat, aren’t you?
Tell us, ussr, should Bird have been scrubbed?
Yes or no?
No moral equivalence.
Just a simple yay or nay.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 12:00 pm

Oh and who’s “slagged” off Adam? I certainly haven’t. Various people, including myself, have been rightly concerned about the moderations issues at Dash Cat. There was a reason why Sinc was always alert to Bird and to other trolls.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 12:02 pm

“Cassie – do you have srr Derangement Syndrome (sDS)?”

No…and so what if I do. I don’t like morons.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 12:03 pm

srr, wanna do some DMT?

Jorge
Jorge
September 6, 2021 12:04 pm

It was the ridicule from Carpe, Rex and the Prof which he couldn’t take.

Points were even. They couldn’t repress the irrepressible.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 12:06 pm

Fat Tonysays:

September 6, 2021 at 11:58 am

Cassie – do you have srr Derangement Syndrome (sDS)?

Bwah ha ha ha ha.
OK.
Well done.
You’ve got ‘ussr’ and ‘derangement’ in one sentence.
If you just juggle those words around eventually it will make sense.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 12:07 pm

Oh look it’s Cassie that’s the real problem here.

Not the shrieking admonitionbot

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 6, 2021 12:08 pm

A bit of discussion up-thread about the Kung Flu being the bait, and the vaccines the “Kill shot” switch.

Surely even the Davos oligarchs, the EU and UN bureaucratarchs, and their various hangers on in (largely) western nations cannot be so stupid as to believe that they could commit slaughter on a scale of billions, and ever be able to leave their fortress compounds again? The multitude of dead would leave behind, not just families, but also whole nations who would tear them limb from limb when they attempted to enjoy the fruits of such a plot.

And the revolution in Chynerr after millions of dead would show the truth of Mao tse Tung’s statement that “A revolution is not a garden party”.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 6, 2021 12:08 pm

Palacechook and the new bloke. Going well.

Ye Gods, Shy Ted. The woman in that pic really is a walking corpse.

I trust you’re referencing Palachchook’s political future and not an obesity expert’s solution.

Now don’t tell me that pic is from ‘A Farewell to Afghanistan’. Looks like at an airport.
Not heading our way, I hope.

areff
areff
September 6, 2021 12:08 pm

Didn’t Guy lose to Andrews back in 2018…by being Labor lite?

Yep. Funny thing, on election limp Liberal John Pesutto was on ABC doing commentary and watching his formerly blue-ribbon seat go to a wheelchair-bound Labor candidate who didn’t even bother to campaign.

Asked how Pesutto figured the Liberals could rise again, he opined that the party needed to be more into ‘women’s issues’, renewables etc

More recently, O’Brien’s chief of staff resigned, having failed to make any sort of impression on behalf of his little-recognised boss. He was then promoted to a nob job at Liberal HQ.

Invest no hope in Victoria’s Liberals.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 6, 2021 12:09 pm

Tourist bus trip.

SpaceX’s private Inspiration4 mission is ‘go’ for launch on Sept. 15 (4 Sep, via Instapundit)

The mission, called Inspiration4, is set to blast off from NASA’s Pad 39A at Kennedy Space Center in Florida on Sept. 15. A crew of four private citizens will strap into a Crew Dragon spacecraft and blast off on a three-day journey around the Earth.

Billionaire Jared Issacman, founder of Shift4 Payments, purchased the flight as part of an effort to raise millions for St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital. He is joined by Haley Arceneaux, Sian Proctor and Chris Sembroski.

Arceneaux, a childhood bone cancer survivor and St. Jude physician’s assistant, was chosen to represent the charity, while Proctor and Sembroski were selected as part of a global contest for a trip on the flight.

Does rather put the onus on Richard Branson. After all why would you choose 10 minutes just above the 50 mile limit when you could have three days in orbit?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 12:10 pm

Points were even. They couldn’t repress the irrepressible.

Except they are still there and Bird is gone.
So I call that a TKO to Carpe and Rex.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 12:11 pm

“Invest no hope in Victoria’s Liberals.”

So clearly they haven’t changed tack…..as far as I can see in Victoria….the only opposition is David Limbrick.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 12:12 pm

I’m at a loss as to how Matthew Guy could be the vic lib saviour.
Especially as he’s blocked me on twitter.

What could I have possibly said?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 6, 2021 12:17 pm

I’ve had one swim between my legs in shallow water.
Very nosey but harmless unless you piss them off.

Rita Panahi (@RitaPanahi) Tweeted:
Australian sea snake says hello https://t.co/PZD8mRtCek

areff
areff
September 6, 2021 12:17 pm

What a vote-able Victorian Liberal Party would stand for (in no particular order, other than the first):

* Royal Commission into policing in Victoria
* an end to speed cameras as revenue-raisers
* reform of the bench (Bye bye Ferguson and Maxwell, plus all the Wallingtons in the lower courts)
* reopening gas exploration, fracked and otherwise
* vouchers for schools with parents replacing educational theorists as the hand on the tiller

That wouldn’t be a bad start. Other suggestions welcome

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 6, 2021 12:19 pm

When a vaccine has been approved for children under 12 7 %

Is that all the childless bureaucrats, activists, and politicians?

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 12:20 pm

“areffsays:
September 6, 2021 at 12:17 pm
What a vote-able Victorian Liberal Party would stand for (in no particular order, other than the first):

* Royal Commission into last year’s Covid quarantine disaster.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 12:20 pm

* Royal Commission into the Red Shirt scandal.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 6, 2021 12:20 pm

Boambee John says:
September 6, 2021 at 12:08 pm

Never said they were smart – they are just evil and stupid. (A bad combination).
But you’re correct – it will not work out the way they want.

Have you ever thought it was the CCP pulling the strings in partnership (ie bought off) with the Davos etc? Emperor Xi gets Chinese domination of the world without a major destructive war.

If this is the case, then the Davos group will be in for a bit of a shock when it comes to power sharing with the CCP.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 12:21 pm

Areff
This was the list I sent to Michael O’Brien’s office at his request a couple of days ago.

“Yes. I would like a vote of no confidence in the Victorian state government, an election, an end to lockdown with people given the right to decide how they manage covid for themselves, no vaccine passports under any circumstances, no border closures and a repeal of state of emergency powers except in times of war or civil disturbance, an end to government subsidy of energy, while removing red tape from waste to energy and nuclear power generation, a focus in education on basic skills, an end to the pushing of progressive ideologies by all government departments, strict merit based selection for employment and government contracts and for the liberal party to grow a backbone. “

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 12:23 pm

I think there is more than one dash-cat mourning the loss of their foot soldier, Thor.
How can you spot them?
Quite easy really.
When he is at the height of his “kill the Jews” rants, they will be saying:-
“Oh, it’s best to have these views aired so we can counter them”. (But then decline to put up a counter argument).
“Yes, distasteful … but freedom of speech”. (Then immediately go on to scream “SHUT UP” at the next poster who raises the slightest disagreement with their position).
You know who you are.
At least be brave enough to post your own anti-Semitic (or anti-whatever) racist/bigoted rants, and not hide behind Bird, egging* him on.
.
* Deliberate reference.

areff
areff
September 6, 2021 12:24 pm

Cassie, the Red Shirts affair would be covered by the RC into the cops — Lawyer X, the fudging of crime stats, the Pell stitch-up.

Oh, and a close look at the Belt & Road deal wouldn’t go astray either

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 6, 2021 12:25 pm

When a vaccine has been approved for children under 12 7 %

I have seen very few kids wearing masks. Even on buses right under the driver’s azure-blue masked nose.

I had the impression that there was an understanding that they were hardly at risk.

Or have we long had an army of rebellious pre-teens?

C.L.
C.L.
September 6, 2021 12:28 pm

…Not sure if this has been posted but the UK’s top science adviser on the subject have rejected ‘vaccination’ for children as worthless, dangerous bullshit.

BBC.

Two interesting bits:

The vaccine advisers have been under huge pressure.

Ministers have let it be known they are very keen on getting this age group vaccinated – both through their public pronouncements and privately behind the scenes.

This has caused frustration among JCVI members – with some complaining about the habit of government officials sitting in on meetings.

Despite this, the JCVI has stood firm.

And…

Paediatricians say that healthy children with Covid end up in intensive care at a rate of two in one million

Despite this official scientific advice, if you read the article it’s pretty clear that the final decision will be made by politicians and children will indeed be targeted.

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 6, 2021 12:30 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
September 6, 2021 at 9:51 am

It took the forces of a worldwide Jewish conspiracy to bring his life undone.
So, yes, he has some issues with delusional paranoia.
But his anti-Semitism is deliberate, calculated and vicious.

Used to see the same thing with Stimpy on the old blog, an amusing crazy bloke but he also had that nasty anti-Semitic thread which saw daylight from time to time.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 12:30 pm

“Cassie, the Red Shirts affair would be covered by the RC into the cops — Lawyer X, the fudging of crime stats, the Pell stitch-up.”

Thanks areff….it would have to have wide terms…unlike Gillard’ RC into historic sexual abuse which just solely focused on churches and Jewish institutions…..conveniently omitting state run schools and institutions.

srr
srr
September 6, 2021 12:31 pm

BUT, for all the calls to ban/block Bird forever more, Sinc didn’t manage to do that.

Graeme made frequent appearances at Sinc’s Cat (and not always in the dead of night), not only posting away, but having cats engage with him, and even some, like JC, being gentle with him & reminding everyone how brilliant Bird could be and to consider him as just someone who’s ill.

Now Sinc didn’t have a ‘report post’ button, AdamD does, but somehow G.B. always slipping into Sinc’s Cat was NEVER Sinc’s fault, despite him not having a report function or even a moderator’s roll to his trusted regulars while Sinc was out of touch.

Now I read that Bird’s made one appearance at Dover’s and no more.

Meanwhile, Gab’s been going for over 5 years and it’s chockablock full of rabid Jew Haters, who Jews & other normal people simply block, one of the benefits of nilk’s Discord that would great if it could be set up on these wordpress sites.

These are just some observations about very noticeable inconsistencies when it comes to The Graeme Bird Problem, and the fluctuating freak out levels he causes people to display, not only against him, but others who aren’t keeping up with the current, expected levels of freak out, which is in fact, behaving like Jew Haters who start spreading their Jew Hate by first pointing out that they are “other than” “us”.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 6, 2021 12:37 pm

Bolt reaches peak vaccine stupid.

The Hun.
‘Look at the 19 who died in NSW from Friday to Sunday. They included 10 in their 70’s, three in their 80’s and one in her 90’s, but only two had bothered to get vaccinated – the two already dying and in palliative care.
So how much longer must eight million Australians be locked up to save predominantly very old people who refused to save themselves?

Clog boy knows for sure that they “refused” to be vaccinated?

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 12:38 pm

Wahmen’s issues and renew-balls.

Oh god.

min
min
September 6, 2021 12:40 pm

Pesutto probably said that on ABC . Fixing health system so that we have the resources and front line workers to deal with increased covid numbers so we can open up .

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 12:42 pm

Srr, you are not the person to be engaging in any form of whataboutism over Cats, Graeme Bird’s insanity and a good general policy of moderating the same.

You are as close to being of the trollherd as it gets. Fortunately, you are yet to trip over the threshold of petty obnoxiousness for listing and moderation as one on the Flash-Cat.

Now go away and sulk.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 12:46 pm

Points were even. They couldn’t repress the irrepressible.

Except they are still there and Bird is gone.
So I call that a TKO to Carpe and Rex

Who the heck is Jorge? Is that our first Grigsock?

The art of counter-trolling is to rile the troll so much, it goes away in a huff all by itself. And that is exactly what happened last night.

And I recall it happened with IamPeter and a number of the more oleaginous and overtly stupid Grigsocks, too.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 12:47 pm

Vic Libs should have making the travel, work, quarantine exemptions public.
But they won’t, because they are up to their necks in it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 12:48 pm

‘they are “other than” “us”‘.

rsrrrs.

We are us.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 12:50 pm

All politicians & public servants should have to sign a declaration that they will not work for, consult to any pharmaceutical company post leaving their jobs.
And their partners.
And their kids.
That includes NFP’s that are funded by pharmaceutical companies.
That nexus has to be broken.
It should be a global accord.

Winston Smith
September 6, 2021 12:51 pm

Crossie:

It would be the only thing that would get their attention. At present we are locked away, invisible, inconsequential.

……and disobedient.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 12:52 pm

Vic Libs should also run on making DMT legal.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 12:54 pm

We are still below the peak.

The “health” fascists stopping the Brazil, Argentina world cup qualifier is getting up there.

cohenite
September 6, 2021 1:01 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Here’s a photo of some Q-Plod with an able-bodied & cunning adult male who has just been arrested for a series of sexual assaults, kidnaps & murders.
The arresting police & he are walking through a public concourse in a public area of a major city.

Anyone not able to spot the difference between this & the restraints and manhandling used on the very pregnant & very diminutive female in Victoria, who was arrested for posting on Facebook that she’d like to meet friends in the park.

Her crime was so much more serious.
She was so much more of a threat.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Girl Sentenced for DC Carjacking That Killed Uber Eats Driver – NBC4 Washington (nbcwashington.com)

In Juvie until she’s 21.
There’s zero deterrence in that sentence.
Should have been life without.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 1:11 pm

Preamble – lock downs / lock outs make zero sense. At all.

If the premiers/CMO’s wanted to make a more marginally more rational decision, it would ensure obese people are locked down & locked out of establishments until they were no longer obese.

It’s not a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
It’s a pandemic of the obese.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 6, 2021 1:12 pm

ABC running the 1 in 10 cases of Covid end up hospital meme.
1,000 in hospital out of 25,000 active cases isn’t 10%.
It’s a fact without facts.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 1:14 pm

Being old with a co-morbidity.
Being any age & obese.
Outside of those two categories, no one should be concerned about COVID.
Regardless of the strain that the legacy media demands we take notice of.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 1:17 pm

It would make marginally more sense for parents to be held accountable if they allow their children to be obese.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 6, 2021 1:18 pm

srr

Now I read that Bird’s made one appearance at Dover’s and no more.

Wrong. He has been there on multiple occasions, and has now (again) been given the boot.

P
P
September 6, 2021 1:19 pm

TheLastRefuge
@TheLastRefuge2
·
46m
Serious question because we have Aussies and Kiwi’s on here… Do the people in Australia not have access to the internet?

… Because the COVID statements from your politicians are bonzo in relation to the realities around the world.

Seriously, WTF is going on?

https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1434705928813793281

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 1:23 pm

Rex at 12:46:-

The art of counter-trolling is to rile the troll so much, it goes away in a huff all by itself. And that is exactly what happened last night.

Indeed it is.
From AdamD’s own site:-

Trolls

There are a whole bunch of theories about dealing with trolls. The most well-known being that you shouldn’t feed the trolls. Here are some others.

Be vicious to trolls.  It’s not like you’re depriving anybody of food or oxygen.
Be capricious.  If you’re consistent, they’ll know where the line is; if they know where the line is, they’ll skate to the edge of it.
Be indifferent to trollish suffering. Being called a facist (not a typo: most trolls can’t spell) who’s suppressing free speech* is not a cause for concern; it’s semantically equivalent to “You’re doing your job.”
Be obnoxious. Trolls do it because it amuses them to do it.  Being made fun of is not amusing, particularly when you can enforce a ban.  Remember: they need your site more than your site needs them.

It all boils down to this: every so often you have to shoot a troll, the better to encourage the others. It’s fun!

*By the way: the Internet is not public property. It’s a collection of various sites, most of which are privately owned. You do not have free speech rights on private property. It’s amazing how many ‘libertarians’ don’t get that.

It seems to me that Rex and Carpe followed AdamD’s advice to the letter.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 1:26 pm

BJ.
Are you confusing AdamD’s dash-cat with this site (Dover’s)?
I can’t recall Bird being here more than once early on and he got wiped promptly.
Conversely, be has been at Dash-Cat under at least half a dozen various guises.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 6, 2021 1:27 pm

To all those post WWII gens who lecture the current generation on how they should be thrifty and save their pennies, that’s how you establish wealth….

Well I just finished watching an excellent documentary where we follow the life of a new Australian called Nino Culotta who arrives in Sydney in 1966. With no savings, on a labourers pay, Nino is able to spend big at the pub every day, go to restaurants at weekends, party every other night and within 12 month buy a harbour side block in Balgowlah Heights. There is no way you could do that today unless Nino supplements his income some illegal activities. So don’t tell me how tough life was for a weird mob, it looked pretty bloody good. 😉

Roger
Roger
September 6, 2021 1:27 pm

Ye Gods, Shy Ted. The woman in that pic really is a walking corpse.

Islam is a death cult.

The Taliban have banned singing, for goodness’ sake.

Are they going to command the birds to shut up?

Winston Smith
September 6, 2021 1:28 pm

BoN:

Franx – Seriously, flu deaths have literally vanished since late April 2020. It’s been amazing. The various controls put in for Covid absolutely nuked flu. I suspect it was the hand sanitizing, but I don’t really know.

Realistically, Bruce, do you think people have actually changed their hand washing habits over the past 18 months?
Perhaps some have, but I’d say it was in the single figures percentagewise.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 1:32 pm

Sorry BJ.
I misread your “there” as “here”.
As you were.
You are correct.
He has turned up under several ridiculous handles, but the familiar line of bile becomes apparent very quickly.

Delta A
Delta A
September 6, 2021 1:33 pm

The art of counter-trolling is to rile the troll so much, it goes away in a huff all by itself. And that is exactly what happened last night.

Bird posted the death threat at 8.38 pm. I flagged the comment and it was removed later, along with all of his subsequent posts.

I don’t think it was Bird’s decision to retire.

Well done, Adam.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 6, 2021 1:34 pm

Sancho

Yes, I did get mixed up. Once here, multiple times there.

Delta A
Delta A
September 6, 2021 1:35 pm

Having said the above, Carpe and Rex played Bird brilliantly.

Bless those baby nano wrigglers.

🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 1:37 pm

Who would spend more on OnlyFans.
Grigs or Bird?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 1:41 pm

Boambee Johnsays:

September 6, 2021 at 1:34 pm

Sancho

Yes, I did get mixed up. Once here, multiple times there.

Correct.
Too many cats!
But the key thing is, Dover has been all over him like a cheap suit the minute he turns up.
Which hits him where it hurts.
Bird loves an audience, and he assumes silence is assent, which is why scrolling him doesn’t work.
Scrubbing him within minutes of him showing up is the answer.
The question remains.
Why is it that Dover (and, in the past, Sinc) can manage him and AdamD cannot?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

I just finished watching an excellent documentary where we follow the life of a new Australian called Nino Culotta who arrives in Sydney in 1966. With no savings, on a labourers pay, Nino is able to spend big at the pub every day, go to restaurants at weekends, party every other night and within 12 month buy a harbour side block in Balgowlah Heights. There is no way you could do that today unless Nino supplements his income some illegal activities.

Watch it again.
Nino may have been penniless & had to live by illegally squatting in a warehouse, but he was well connected:
Who else would on their first day in the country get to meet Graham Kennedy, Chips Rafferty, John Mellion & a very hot Italian film actress?

Note how NSW Plod treated him when they caught him loitering with his luggage at Circular Quay.
They politely picked up his luggage & carried it for him to a taxi they hailed for him – you wouldn’t get better service from a doorman in a high-class hotel.

(Fun activity: Try getting NSW Plod to do that for you today)

Lysander
Lysander
September 6, 2021 1:43 pm

I’m still not singly vax’d yet and I’m not anti-vax, but a lot of perps telling me to get vax’d are people I’d usually be skeptical of…

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 6, 2021 1:46 pm

The Australian Government’s BSA (Biosecurity Act 2015, not the Gold Star) is set to expire on the 17th September. The BSA determines the limit of the Federal government’s scope of actions in relation to COVID, and it is fairly limited.

According to the Constitution, the States are not permitted to implement any actions beyond the current limitations defined in the BSA, and there is a court action presently underway in NSW to reign in state government over reach by some Christian and Jewish organisations aimed at reopening the churches and synagogues.

Given that the current BSA expires on the 17th September, what do you think the Federal Government will do? Will they extend their currently limited BSA determination, or will they expand its scope to lend legitimacy to the states’ overreach?

calli
calli
September 6, 2021 1:51 pm

The question remains.
Why is it that Dover (and, in the past, Sinc) can manage him and AdamD cannot?

Sancho, why don’t you ask him?

[email protected]

Roger
Roger
September 6, 2021 2:01 pm

Why is it that Dover (and, in the past, Sinc) can manage him and AdamD cannot?

Adam did mention that a new business venture of his had taken off and he hadn’t had the time to monitor the blog closely.

Lysander
Lysander
September 6, 2021 2:06 pm

Old bloke…

The human biosecurity emergency period under the Biosecurity Act 2015 will be extended for a further three months.

The emergency period, which has been in place since 18 March 2020 to protect Australians during the COVID-19 pandemic, will continue until 17 December 2021.

Gubbermint doing whatever it wants. #RubberStampYourFreedomsAway

Roger
Roger
September 6, 2021 2:06 pm

Given that the current BSA expires on the 17th September, what do you think the Federal Government will do? Will they extend their currently limited BSA determination, or will they expand its scope to lend legitimacy to the states’ overreach?

I think it’s fairly clear what the Commonwealth will do – permit the states to run their own shows until the vaccination target is reached.

QLD just extended the CHO’s emergency powers for another six (iirc?) months.

Either they haven’t thought to run this by the Commonwealth (entirely possible) or they’ve been given the nod.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 2:07 pm

callisays:

September 6, 2021 at 1:51 pm

The question remains.
Why is it that Dover (and, in the past, Sinc) can manage him and AdamD cannot?

Sancho, why don’t you ask him?

I have.
No reply.

calli
calli
September 6, 2021 2:07 pm

Heh. We’re going to have to halve the house into “his” and “hers”.

Just as well the poor old derg carked it.

calli
calli
September 6, 2021 2:08 pm

When did you ask? I found about a week between requests and a reply.

Bruce in WA
September 6, 2021 2:10 pm

Sneakers McGowan’s latest line of “reasoning” is that it is essential he keeps WA locked down so that our (mining) industry can continue and keeps Australia’s economy afloat during the pandemic.

Talk about delusions of grandeur! Napoloeonesque, indeed.

His other zinger is that, when we hit 80% — or 90% — or more — vaccination rate, he will tell us, time to get ready to unlock, and say to us, “I am giving you eight weeks’ “notice” to get ready!

He’s already said he won’t look at dropping the borders until well after Christmas, and now he’s saying that even when he does, we’ll still be shut down for up to two months after that! Effectively, WA could still be in hard closure until early to mid-March next year.

And people on Facebook are still calling him the State’s “saviour” and “protector”. WTF is wrong with people?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Adam D swung into action & got the site up & running. There was nothing else at that time to take over where Catallaxy had stopped. He deserves justly, a lot of slack being cut for that.
He got it up overnight, from a standing start.

He may or may not have realised just how much time & effort it takes to keep on top of such an operation. It takes a helluva lot.

The site is near unusable for open thread purposes, due to the total & complete infestation of unhindered crazies.
Okay a few people seem to like engaging with total nutters, & have the time to do so. Free country.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 6, 2021 2:17 pm

Courier-Mail poll assessing Pallachook’s approval rating:

Has the Premier done a good job managing the Covid pandemic?

Yes 25 %

No 75 %

3874 votes

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 2:22 pm

And people on Facebook are still calling him the State’s “saviour” and “protector”. WTF is wrong with people?

Historic infatuation with Labor and Labor politicians.

You know how Sandgropers like to bring up the idea/petition of reinstating passenger trains to Albany every other Wednesday?

It is an instantaneous cue to curse and spit and throw tomatoes about Charles Court and the closure of the Fremantle commuter line, the closure of Midland Workshops, the running-down of country lines, etc. etc. etc. It’s as much an evil talisman as ‘The Scottish Play.’

Never mind that the WAGR/Westrail was perpetually robbed and starved of funds throughout its working life from 1898 to privatisation in 2000, ran on a perennial shoestring and nobody outside of the enthusiast and historical movements really gave a hoot when the last Albany Progress (by then an overnight fast freighter with a few ratty, barely-used sleeper coaches tacked onto the back) ran in 1978.

Never argue with nostalgia and mindless tribalism, Bruce…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 6, 2021 2:23 pm

what do you think the Federal Government will do?

Well instead of asking voters they will ask themselves.

You know the sort of press conference. (Krudd used to love them.)

“Do I want to extend this lockdown? No I don’t. But we have to look after da peeples. Is there any justification for putting Australians in jeopardy when we nearly have this thing beat? I would emphatically and resoundingly say no. Am I the best Prime Minister this country has ever had? Well, yes. No one has had a greater challenge and prevailed! I think a round of applause is in order!”

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 6, 2021 2:23 pm

Looking at the actions of the Federal & State governments, anyone still under the illusion that there is any intention of going back to normal?

We’ve been sold, lock, stock & barrel to the CCP by our “leaders”.
They are pushing these very dangerous “vaccines” in a manner totally out of proportion to the so-called COVID “threat”. All they need to do is get 80% to 90% jabbed and keep lockdowns going whilst letting the “vaccines” do the dirty work for them.

As Scummo said a month ago – by Christmas, Australia will be a very different country.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 2:24 pm

Never argue with nostalgia and mindless tribalism, Bruce…

The Labor machine here seems to be able to conjure it at will.

Bruce in WA
September 6, 2021 2:26 pm

Never argue with nostalgia and mindless tribalism, Bruce…

True, Rex; it’s starting to wear me down, continually putting forward arguments only to have them batted away in favour of “Say what you like, he’s kept us all safe so far …” You can’t argue with stupid.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 2:27 pm

calli.
It was about two weeks ago I think.
When Bird was “Iceman” or somesuch.
I didn’t use the email for the query I posted there under back in the early days.
In any case, I am a “vote with the feet” person with very little interest in running QC/QA for Dash-Cat.
Whatever the reason – too busy, not wanting to upset the free-speech pitchfork mob, possibly enjoying Bird’s antics – it doesn’t really matter.
Unless he can instal permanent bird-netting it will be the death of the place.
Sad, but that is a lesson in the operation of markets.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 6, 2021 2:29 pm

Plagiarized from David Gemmell;s Book 2 of The Damned

Winning is not everything

Men like to think it is.

Sometimes it is more important to stand against evil than to worry about beating it.

Evil will always have the best weapons.

Evil will gather the greatest armies.

They will burn, and plunder and kill.

But that’s not the worst of it.

They will try to make us believe that the only way of destroying them is by becoming like them.

That is the true vileness of evil.

It is contagious.

You believe that you can defeat evil with a law?

Is that not a contradiction in terms?

There can be no power that evil will not corrupt.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 2:31 pm

The site is near unusable for open thread purposes, due to the total & complete infestation of unhindered crazies.
Okay a few people seem to like engaging with total nutters, & have the time to do so. Free country.

Quite so.
It will find it’s own level.
The crazies (e.g. ussr, Anne) don’t bother me unless they get into red-shoe defamation.
Bird is totally unacceptable and there is no level of his bile which should be tolerated.
None.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 2:38 pm

areff on the Vic Libs policies.
As well as policies, we need to see a bit of (I hate this phrase but here goes) “cut-through”.
Put the boots into the more ridiculous LockDan measures (playgrounds, curfews).
Call them corrupt.
Attack Sutton and ask him to swear a stat dec that he had advice for this shit before Dan and his advisors raised it.
He won’t.
And start talking about slugs at I-Cook.
Attack Fiona Patton and Animal Justice, calling the shots with 1% of the statewide vote.
Attack is the key word.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 6, 2021 2:39 pm

Taliban on verge of crushing last stronghold of resistance in Panjshir Valley
Victorious fighters use American arms to quell last valley of resistance, Anthony Loyd reports
VIA REUTERS
Anthony Loyd
in the Panjshir Valley
Monday September 06 2021, 12.01am BST, The Times
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The Panjshir Valley, the last bastion of resistance to Taliban rule in Afghanistan, was on the verge of being overwhelmed last night.

Thousands of Taliban fighters moved through passes from four directions into Panjshir, the final territorial obstacle to them announcing a government. The Times accompanied hundreds of Taliban units through the mouth of the valley after they had overrun mountain outposts defended by the National Resistance Front (NRF).

By yesterday the Taliban appeared to control four of the valley’s seven districts, and to have captured administrative buildings in the capital, Bazarak.

Ahmad Massoud, the leader of the NRF, said on Facebook that he would welcome proposals to end the fighting.

The Taliban was not ready for talks. “Our message to the Panjshir resistance leaders is ‘surrender’,” said Maulawi Mohammed Faruq, one of the group’s commanders, who led his forces into the valley’s Shotul district on Friday. “We don’t want to kill you . . . but surrender you must. Our victory is inevitable.”

Panjshir was the birthplace of Ahmad Shah Massoud, the guerrilla leader who defied Russian offensives on the valley during the decade-long Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Massoud later founded the Northern Alliance, which provided the bedrock of support for the US-led invasion after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Rather than flee, members of Massoud’s family and entourage, most prominently his 32-year-old Sandhurst-trained son, Ahmad, and Afghanistan’s vice-president, Amrullah Saleh, formed the NRF and called for Afghans to mobilise against the Taliban. Defiant transmissions over the weekend by resistance leaders suggested that they had refused all offers to surrender.

In the valley I saw a Panjshiri prisoner led away for interrogation. He shot a fearful look over the shoulders of his Taliban captors. I caught his eye just long enough to notice he had the startled fear and surprise of a man on the edge of drowning.

I noticed too that his hands were secured behind his back with American handcuffs. The detail of the handcuffs may seem small beside the vast array of US weaponry — the assault rifles, the Humvees and the machineguns on the back of the Ford ranger vehicles — captured by the Taliban and now being used by the former enemies of America to pulverise the last fragments of resistance in the Panjshir Valley.

As I watched, the prisoner pleaded with his captors: “We’re brothers, we’re brothers, we surrendered.”

The fact that his wrists were bonded by steel etched with the words Peerless Handcuff Company Springfield MA seemed somehow more grotesque than any other detail beneath the angry blue of the late summer sky as the last pocket of defiance to Taliban rule in Afghanistan was extinguished.

Lysander
Lysander
September 6, 2021 2:40 pm

That the State Daddy has “kept us safe” is the worst argument I’ve ever heard. For starters, WA and Perth are very difficult places to get to. A 3-4 day drive from the most populous of capitals. Only one road in via the South and one road via the North. There are already checkpoints so, closing them, is hardly a big “achievement.” Having all arrivals go to hotel quarantine is hardly an “achievement” as well.

Perth, with its warmer climes, distance from anywhere else and lack of urban infill, density and geographic space are all the reasons why; not McClowan.

Lysander
Lysander
September 6, 2021 2:43 pm

So, if the unvax’d are not able to access a whole bunch of services, does that mean they don’t have to pay tax anymore?

Lysander
Lysander
September 6, 2021 2:48 pm

Upcoming news, parents will not be able to send kids to school or receive any gubbermint funds/services unless they are all vax’d.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 2:53 pm

Perth, with its warmer climes, distance from anywhere else and lack of urban infill, density and geographic space are all the reasons why; not McClowan.

The same argument could be applied to, say, Mildura.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 6, 2021 3:04 pm
Lysander
Lysander
September 6, 2021 3:10 pm

The same argument could be applied to, say, Mildura.

If you add another 64 hours driving time on top of the 10hr trip from Sydney to Mildura 😛

rickw
rickw
September 6, 2021 3:10 pm

The Taliban have banned singing, for goodness’ sake.

And Australian state governments have done pretty much the same thing….

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 3:13 pm

Monty mentioned that our feathered friend operates via limited range of isps and was pretty easy to spot.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 3:22 pm

Well, that is true Lysander, that Perth is even more isolated.
But the point is that state borders are an artificial construct when it comes to disease control.
Locking down Mildura because of something in Melbourne is the geographic equivalent of locking down Amsterdam because of an outbreak in Paris.
Or Inverness in Scotland because of Kung Flu in London.

P
P
September 6, 2021 3:27 pm

Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
·
3h
Australia is devolving into a totalitarian surveillance state with Covid gulags despite having a virus-related mortality rate that is half of annual traffic deaths.

This is like shutting down a highway transportation system because there aren’t *zero* deaths per year.

https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1434698454681493505

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 3:28 pm

rosiesays:

September 6, 2021 at 3:13 pm

Monty mentioned that our feathered friend operates via limited range of isps and was pretty easy to spot.

Which belled the cat for me.
Sinc must have had the same inkling when Bird turned up.
I actually think Sinc used to tolerate him for the sport of letting him run for an hour or two and, the minute he overstepped with his anti-Semitic stuff, shooting him and binning all his posts.

Delta A
Delta A
September 6, 2021 3:29 pm

The Taliban have banned singing, for goodness’ sake.

And Australian state governments have done pretty much the same thing….

Touche.

P
P
September 6, 2021 3:31 pm

Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
·
3h
The police-enforced Covid camps are real, folks.

I don’t think that this could be real, but anyway here is the vid:
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1434698613012275204

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 6, 2021 3:31 pm

Delta A says:
September 6, 2021 at 3:29 pm
The Taliban have banned singing, for goodness’ sake.

And Australian state governments have done pretty much the same thing….

Touche.

At least boys can go to school there…..(as somebody noted recently)

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 3:32 pm

I actually think Sinc used to tolerate him for the sport of letting him run for an hour or two and, the minute he overstepped with his anti-Semitic stuff, shooting him and binning all his posts.

Except that time when we enraged him so hard, he ran away screaming first.

We never did get to see the outcome of that fight between my mates in the Goblin Mafia and Mr. Lowe’s Leprechaun associates.

But I do remember that the cleaners could never get all the glitter out of the velour seatbacks afterwards…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 3:33 pm

(And no gorgeous TV weather girls- Or their cloning tank- Was harmed in the making of that glorious Tueaday night on the Open Fred).

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
September 6, 2021 3:40 pm

anyone know how the news.com.au poll is going about restrictions? I voted but they only let you see the results if you register. Buggered if I’m giving them my legit details.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 6, 2021 3:41 pm

Roving the intertubes the other day, I looked up ‘Attic salt’, which was contrasted to ‘Laconic humour’ (Athens and Sparta still rivals I see).

An example of the latter was ‘Australian humour’. I clicked. I read. I grew embarrassed for someone I did not even know.

The article looked as if it was written by a 13 year-old, which means then it was probably an English Literature graduate from an Australian university.

It started off giving some reasonable examples from days of yore, but as it moved toward the present the examples were more and more pathetic. Seriously? Pauline Pantsdown as example of contemporary Australian humour? Well, I suppose so, but not in the way the author I think meant it.

If the article had been called ‘The Decline and Australian Comedy.”

As people have said. Australians are funny people. Their comedians are not.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 3:46 pm

Maybe Sinc did so at the end of cat run Sancho but I think in earlier times he just responded to emails from others in the morning to do his clean up on aisle five after overnight infestations.
I don’t know for sure that’s just an impression I have.
Actually think he went to a lot of effort to curb the bird, clearly the reason a number of words went straight into moderation.
Birdie sure made a lot of (unpaid) work for Sinc

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 3:47 pm

Hands up who would rather be in Afghanistan right now?

Franx
Franx
September 6, 2021 3:52 pm

Yes, the premier lies without drawing breath. Despicable. So the ‘pandemic’ according to that liar can be categorised as a ‘pandemic of the unvaccinated’ such that the liar is now threatening to deny medical care to the unvaccinated. Except of course the vaccinated are at least as much party to any ‘pandemic’ as are the unvaccinated. Or perhaps being vaccinated means not just 2 or 3 jabs but however many it takes to make sure that it’s not the ‘pandemic’ that does it for you.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 6, 2021 3:52 pm

Slim,
First 3 questions end lockdowns, open borders,open international… open up today 70+%.
Business open only to vaxxed 60+% voted no. Last question about I am most worried about … All the above 60+% the last option I am worried covid @ 20%.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 3:55 pm

Australians are funny people. Their comedians are not.

Commissars in clown shoes…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 3:59 pm

Aside from the fact that the vast majority of comedy these days is “LAUGH AT OUR DESIGNATED TARGETS OF THE DAY! LAUGH! HA-HA! HA-HA! HA-HAAAAAAA! YOU ARE ALL CLASS ENEMIES! EXTERMINAAAAAAAAAATE!”

Delivered in best Intersectional Dalek manner, by someone who is routinely an overcompensating, overdressed wimp in clothes labels nobody sees outside of some high-end fashion house. Or is a caricature of some barnstorming ’empowered’ People of Colour (Choler?).

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2021 4:08 pm

Gladys admits they don’t have the power to make vaccines mandatory

No, they just blackmail everyone with their jobs, livelihoods and access to everyday life.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 6, 2021 4:20 pm

“LAUGH AT OUR DESIGNATED TARGETS OF THE DAY!”

A few years ago I saw something on the ABC with a stand up comedian. They were making absurd jokes about Tony Abbott – I mean truly infantile without any wit at all. Not playing on some supposed trait of his, or something he had done, just something along the lines of “And you know what? Tony Abbott doesn’t know how to drive a car. He has to call his wife all the time and ask her to drive him places.”

But the audience were whooping and guffawing, and it was pure meanness. They weren’t even bothering with why they hate him. They just did. They were happy to be hating him out loud, to be doing it together, to have an event instead of sitting at home. It was intoxicating. They weren’t laughing at the wit – there was none. It could as easily have been said about anyone. They just enjoyed venting.

It reminded me of the ‘Two-minutes hate’ in 1984.

rickw
rickw
September 6, 2021 4:38 pm

No Unregistered Firearm is our aim!

I’ll bet it is….

Timing is “interesting”.

https://crimestoppers.com.au/firearmamnesty/

P
P
September 6, 2021 4:39 pm

Lorraine Finlay
@lorrainejfinlay
·
Sep 5
Honoured to be appointed as the next Australian Human Rights Commissioner. The vision of
@AusHumanRights
for an Australia where human rights are enjoyed by everyone, everywhere, everyday is more important than ever!

https://twitter.com/lorrainejfinlay/status/1434308246429257733

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 4:39 pm

That VivaBarnes duo seem to have a lot of stuff at their Locals account.
They have a link to a blog called Drowning In Data which if not related the posters seem to have some crossover.
It’s a rabbit hole easily lost down.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 4:44 pm

The thing about having a non-Cathedral person at the Human Rights Commission isn’t about changing anything the organisation does or changing the direction.
It’s about throwing the occasional spanner in the works.
And making the Cathedral feel uncomfortable or inconvenienced periodically.

It really fucks with them considering they’ve had a rails run with minimal interruptions (Tim Wilson) for a generation.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 4:52 pm

re Gladys’ unelected medical apartheid.

Tell me of all the healthy people under 65 that ever needed hospitalisation for COVID?!

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2021 4:55 pm

Tell me of all the healthy people under 65 that ever needed hospitalisation for COVID?!

Are you saying an obese person isn’t healthy?

Chris
Chris
September 6, 2021 4:55 pm

No Unregistered Firearm is our aim!
I’ll bet it is….
Timing is “interesting”.
https://crimestoppers.com.au/firearmamnesty/

This shite has been turning up in my inbox.
I think its time the innocent citizens of Australia, especially WA, showed their Police how appreciative we are of their concern for our absolute subjection to their personal preferences.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 5:00 pm

Are you saying an obese person isn’t healthy?

They’re medically stunning and brave.

Arky
September 6, 2021 5:03 pm

Check out the Neil Oliver vid just posted on the main page.
I have seldom seen such controlled, incisive and justified fury.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 6, 2021 5:07 pm

Dot at 1652

Tell me of all the healthy people under 65 that ever needed hospitalisation for COVID?!

I doubt that even one in 20 Australians knows or knows of someone who was hospitalised or died with Kung Flu.

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
September 6, 2021 5:08 pm

Thanks Diogenes for the poll update. I appreciate it.

JC
JC
September 6, 2021 5:12 pm

I doubt that even one in 20 Australians knows or knows of someone who was hospitalised or died with Kung Flu.

I knew two. Both in the US and both oldersters.

Arky
September 6, 2021 5:26 pm

This cow is the prototype of those who will hand us over to the CCP once Dan gets his Belt and Road:
..
Cartimandua:

She came to power around the time of the Roman conquest of Britain, and formed a large tribal agglomeration that became loyal to Rome. The only account of her is by the Roman historian Tacitus, through which she appears to have been widely influential in early Roman Britain.
..
Although Cartimandua is first mentioned by Tacitus as in 51, her rule over the Brigantes may have already been established when the Roman emperor Claudius began the organised conquest of Britain in 43: she may have been one of the eleven “kings” who Claudius’s triumphal arch says surrendered without a fight.[3] If not, she may have come to power after a revolt of a faction of the Brigantes was defeated by Publius Ostorius Scapula in 48.

Being of “illustrious birth”, according to Tacitus,[5] Cartimandua probably inherited her power, as she does not appear to have obtained it through marriage. She and her husband, Venutius, are described by Tacitus as loyal to Rome and “defended by our [Roman] arms”. In 51, the British resistance leader Caratacus sought sanctuary with Cartimandua after being defeated by Ostorius Scapula in Wales, but Cartimandua handed him over to the Romans in chains.

Having given Claudius the greatest exhibit of his triumph, Cartimandua was rewarded with great wealth. She later divorced Venutius, replacing him with his armour-bearer, Vellocatus. In 57, although Cartimandua had seized his brother and other relatives and held them hostage, Venutius made war against her and then against her Roman protectors. He built alliances outside the Brigantes, and during the governorship of Aulus Didius Gallus (52–57) he staged an invasion of the kingdom of the Brigantes. The Romans had anticipated this and sent some cohorts to defend their client queen. The fighting was inconclusive until Caesius Nasica arrived with a legion, the IX Hispana, and defeated the rebels. Cartimandua retained the throne thanks to prompt military support from Roman forces.

She was not so fortunate in 69. Taking advantage of Roman instability during the year of four emperors, Venutius staged another revolt, again with help from other nations. Cartimandua appealed for troops from the Romans, who were only able to send auxiliaries. Cartimandua was evacuated, leaving Venutius in control of a kingdom at war with Rome.[5] After this, Cartimandua disappears from the sources.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 6, 2021 5:32 pm

I actually think Sinc used to tolerate him for the sport of letting him run for an hour or two and, the minute he overstepped with his anti-Semitic stuff, shooting him and binning all his posts.

Sancho, I assumed that auto-moderation weeded out all comments which include banned words, thus allowing Sinc to attend to his real job and life in general.
Bird strikes without banned words would take a little longer to identify and incur Doomlord intervention.

I used to love the “Smote” comment from Sinc.

Baba
Baba
September 6, 2021 5:37 pm

rickw
September 6, 2021 at 4:38 pm
No Unregistered Firearm is our aim!

I’ll bet it is….

Timing is “interesting”.

Positioning for when the unvaxxed have their firearms licence cancelled. Because right-wing extremists.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 5:45 pm

UAP doing good work.

https://uap-media.com.au/tga-full-report-of-covid-vaccine-adverse-events-and-deaths/

448 possible deaths from the vaccines.

Okay, I think we’re done here, Gladys.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 5:46 pm

Sancho, I assumed that auto-moderation weeded out all comments which include banned words

Yes, overt anti-Semitism and racism could largely be filtered by the spaminator, frustrating as it was, catching words like “jewelry”.
Euphemisms like “International bankers” were used, but these limited Sinc’s exposure.
Hard to run a discrimination case for someone accusing “International bankers” of evil crimes, even though we all knew what he meant.
It was mostly dealt with within a couple of hours anyway.

JC
JC
September 6, 2021 5:50 pm

Just to explain an ongoing stoush with , Cronkite. Now I’m not in the least bit angry – more than that, I’m saddened by his dishonesty and complete delusion. He made a shocking comment last evening – saying I don’t have taste in good women. In other words I don’t know what a good looking shiela is, whereas he does.

About a week ago I made a comment that I thought the new “smurf” and Netflix’s Animal Kingdom – Leila George -is doubly insane. She’s insanely good looking and mentally insane to be with the wife-bashing lunatic, Sean Penn.

You be the judge, because I can’t talk sense into him any more.

Vote if you think she decent looking.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 6, 2021 5:53 pm

Are you saying an obese person isn’t healthy?

Fat shaming has no place in medicine!

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 6, 2021 5:53 pm

I put this on the wrong thread.

Bar Beach Swimmersays:
September 6, 2021 at 5:28 pm
Just on Kenny; Chris Minns, the NSW Opposition Leader.

Kenny has just referred to John Barilaro admitting today that curfews don’t work – that they haven’t worked in south western Sydney – and that he won’t impose a curfew on the people of Dubbo.

Minns then was asked why the Opposition haven’t challenged the rules when they are incomprehensible – like sitting on park benches. He’s replied that he’ll back common sense – and thinks that Barilaro’s stance shows common sense but that these rules must be looked at again.

So what’s the private polling telling politicians?, – The people are sick and tired of this stuff. That news.com.au poll as well maybe giving the politicians pause for thought

One other thought – how does Gladys/Kerry Chant respond to Barilaro? Barilaro must know what the health advice is, yet he’s admitted that the curfew in South Western Sydney has not worked. So does the health advice change? And does will the curfew be rescinded? How do the health orders work when the health advice is wrong?

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