Open Thread – Weekend 3 Sept 2021


The Course of Empire-Destruction, Thomas Cole, 1836

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Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 5:54 pm

Very decent JC, but not as thick as oat meal.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 5:56 pm

Oops.
The bird has phoenixed.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 6, 2021 5:57 pm

Warden Andrews is trying to use the easing of restrictions in regional Vic to trial his ID parole system for prisoners.
My chance to tell businesses to shove it up their arse if they think I’m going to play along.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 6:01 pm

rosiesays:

September 6, 2021 at 5:56 pm

Oops.
The bird has phoenixed.

You’re kidding, right?
Where?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 6:02 pm

JC, I cannot determine the size of her…. Net Worth.

Therefore, I cannot make an informed decision.

(Stop tittering at the Back, there!)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 6:04 pm

Warden Andrews is trying to use the easing of restrictions in regional Vic …

WTF?
They have been dangling that bait for nearly a week now.
I reckon they are having an internal shitfight over opening regional schools vs city schools, because da fairness.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 6, 2021 6:06 pm

Honoured to be appointed as the next Australian Human Rights Commissioner. The vision of @AusHumanRights for an Australia where human rights are enjoyed by everyone, everywhere, everyday is more important than ever!

How about the human right to reject the Covid vaxx and Covid passports?
There’s her first job staring her right in the face.
C’mon, sweetie, give us your opinion pronto actioning on that.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 6, 2021 6:08 pm

448 possible deaths from the vaccines.

The TGA is having 2 bob each way here.
They list “Number of cases where death was a reported outcome” but in the fine print underneath the stats also say “An adverse event report does not mean that the medicine is the cause of the adverse event.”
Above the stats they equivocate with this: “The TGA thinks there is a possibility that the medicine caused the adverse event”.

However, I’m yet to see any MSM outlet run a scare story based on this information. Yet they have done so on less sure data, shouting to the heavens “died of Covid” when age and co-morbidities are also contributing factors.

cohenite
September 6, 2021 6:11 pm

Vote if you think she decent looking.

Head prefect I said then and repeat the girl looks healthy in a Brady Bunch before the end of day cocaine snorting sort of way. She’s got big rosy cheeks and looks fit and up to a days milking on the farm. Maybe she can bake as well. She’d probably make someone a good wife and her hips look excellent for child bearing.

In short she’s decent sort of girl. But the issue was women who have something special and the fact is my taste is more on point on this issue.

rickw
rickw
September 6, 2021 6:13 pm

How about the human right to reject the Covid vaxx and Covid passports?
There’s her first job staring her right in the face.

That would be doing the one thing that the position would be useful for….

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 6:14 pm

@sancho right behind a post by a new guy called professor higgins 😉

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 6, 2021 6:17 pm

Most unlikely that all 448 deaths are a result of vaccination. Some might be, others would be, but there is a ‘natural’ death rate in the population. All have to be investigated by law and in depth, and most are rejected outright as vaxx caused, but clearly the vaxx is to blame in about one or two deaths per million.

Morbidities caused by the vaxx are greater, but most of these are not permanent effects.
Some are though.

Check your normal medications and you will see some figures you may not like there too. On the other side of the ledger, check how your life may have been saved or greatly improved by medications that did knock off some – anaesthesia springs to mind, but there are plenty of other medical pharma interventions proven to keep more alive than they kill.

Your risk, your choice, is my philosophy.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 6, 2021 6:21 pm

Check out the Neil Oliver vid just posted on the main page.
I have seldom seen such controlled, incisive and justified fury.

He’s great. Tough as nails. Not a big fella but a real man, feisty as all get out.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 6, 2021 6:22 pm

rosie

Yes, he’s baaaack! Still on about mutilated ends.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 6:26 pm

Lizzie, OSC.
I think the stat might be “death subsequent to a medication” not “death caused by a medication”.
A good starting point for an analysis, but declaring them vax deaths doesn’t stand up.
And yes, I know, it is similar to “died with” Covid reported deaths.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 6:28 pm

Boambee Johnsays:

September 6, 2021 at 6:22 pm

rosie

Yes, he’s baaaack! Still on about mutilated ends.

Yes.
Posting under the same name as he used to post a Nazi Jewish genocide manifesto and issue death threats to two other posters less than 24 hours ago.
Tell me again what a top job AdamD is doing in managing him.
He’s taking the piss.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 6:30 pm

I see no birdstrike.

I am disappoint…

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 6:32 pm

“Oops.
The bird has phoenixed.”

I knew it would only take hours for him to return. And so the cycle will begin once again…it’s a bird wheel. It’ll be benign to begin with….but then he’ll casually a word like “rabbi” into some of his screeds…and then he’ll drop the word Tel Aviv…and then Mossad….and then IDF….and then Holocaust and then Talmud ….and vaccinations will be a Jewish conspiracy thing….and then it’ll blow out to full blown genocidal attacks such as he strew across the site last night. The wheel turns and turns.

Shana Tova…..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 6:32 pm

OK.
I withdraw and apologise.
The Bird comment has been scrubbed.
A good sign for Dash-Cat.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 6:36 pm

“The Bird comment has been scrubbed.”

For the time being, he’ll be back.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 6, 2021 6:36 pm

I think the stat might be “death subsequent to a medication” not “death caused by a medication”.

Yes, it is a population death rate when a medication is given to almost everybody.

In the next month after a vaxx some of those are going to cark it from other causes.
As I said, there is a natural rate of death. Consideration has to be given to actuarial life tables in this, regarding age and years of life left, and rates of death for comorbidities, and other causes of death, such as suicide etc. as well as the medical ’cause of death’ and post-mortem data. Every death reported post-vaxx is looked at from these perspectives and only a few of them come up as immediately relevant to the vaxx and only the vaxx. It is the grey area, where the vaxx may push something else along, that is the unknown. That’s how I interpret the figure, and all of its cushioning surrounding noises re the listing.

JC
JC
September 6, 2021 6:38 pm

Rex Anger says:
September 6, 2021 at 6:02 pm

JC, I cannot determine the size of her…. Net Worth.

Therefore, I cannot make an informed decision.

Rex, stop it with the silly qualifications and just freaking vote.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 6:39 pm

Tgs have confirmed 9 deaths from the clotting issue.

Everything else is a question mark, some will be in but it takes time to investigate.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 6:39 pm

Rex, there was a comment there but it has been scrubbed.
Encouraging sign.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 6:43 pm

He’s back.
Odd system.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 6, 2021 6:44 pm

Well, I got two loads of washing done in the new machine.

Texted one of my sons to apologise for being late in transferring some food funds, said I was busy with the new wishing machine. Just my texting typo, but, oh, I wish….. how good would it be to have a wishing machine? Strikes me it might make a very nice children’s story, “The Magic Wishing Machine’, rather Enid Blytonish – like ‘The Magic Far-Away Tree” but updated for the kid stuck in a two-bedroom unit watching the world go round in the little tumbler window during lockown as the machine turns, but when it finishes out hops a little man and offers the usual three wishes. And so on … needs a good illustrator to make it happen.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
September 6, 2021 6:45 pm

I think the stat might be “death subsequent to a medication” not “death caused by a medication”.

What is sauce for the goose is also for the gander.
You cannot have one standard for deaths from the China virus and another standard for vaccines. The standard has already been SET. It is death WITH the China virus, therefore, the standard for vaccines is also SET as death WITH the vaccine.
Ergo, the assertion remains, vaccines are killing people. See Neil Oliver’s video.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 6, 2021 6:47 pm

Salvatore – way up Fred at 1:42pm.

Nino Culotta – “They’re A Weird Mob” and “Cop This Lot”.
Two of the funniest books I’ve read (over and over).
Thank you John O’Grady.
And my mum, for passing them on to me decades ago.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 6:49 pm

Yes, it is a population death rate when a medication is given to almost everybody.

In the next month after a vaxx some of those are going to cark it from other causes.

Not everyone has been vaccinated so it isn’t exactly the full population death rate, but let’s not quibble.
The point is valid.
I think there are about 150,000 – 160,000 deaths per annum (say 3,000 per week).
I think the statistic measures the number of deaths occuring x days after administering a medication.
If x = 7 days, and I gave the entire population a Vitamin C tablet on New Years Day, would we say that the 3,000 deaths in the week ending 7th January were attributable to Vitamin C?
It is the rawest of raw data.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
September 6, 2021 6:51 pm

Somewhere in western Sydney today, same as it ever was

duncanm
duncanm
September 6, 2021 6:52 pm

She’s insanely good looking and mentally insane to be with the wife-bashing lunatic, Sean Penn.

hot/crazy. Its a thing.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 6:52 pm

Rex, stop it with the silly qualifications and just freaking vote.

No! [Nose in the air emoji]

JC
JC
September 6, 2021 6:52 pm

Nino Culotta – “They’re A Weird Mob” and “Cop This Lot”.
Two of the funniest books I’ve read (over and over).
Thank you John O’Grady.
And my mum, for passing them on to me decades ago.

Toad, it came out later. Nino lived like millionaire because he bought lots of Bitcoin with his Lira when BTC was trading at a couple hundred bucks for each coin. He did really well.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 6:57 pm

People here are a little bit interested in the truth ‘a suggestion’.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 6, 2021 6:57 pm

Nino was good at concreting.
He couldn’t spell bitcoin – cash was king, to be used at the rubbity with mates.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 6:58 pm

Nino is delightful.
One of my daughters loved them too.

JMH
JMH
September 6, 2021 7:02 pm

Guy – leader of the Victorian Libs?

Bwahahahahaha. They CANNOT be serious.

Oh God – I think they are serious.

That idiot lost big time to the tyrant at the last election. What makes the (cretinous) Libs think anything will change this time? FFS.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 7:04 pm

A Suggestion.
Fair Schmair.
Yeah, I get it.
“They” used the “died with Covid” stat to scare the shit out of people.
But, whatever you say about fairness and equity doesn’t matter.
UAP and Kelly are stupid and naive to publish that statistic claiming they are vax deaths.
The MSM are going to find half a dozen deaths which were so obviously NOT vax related and knock the whole argument over.
I dislike deceptive reporting of this stuff, no matter who is doing it.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 6, 2021 7:04 pm

Picked up med records today, from coastal town newlyweds’n’nearlydeads clinic.
Grand old house, dadoes and high ceilings, reception in the front room, broad desk with two girls usually behind, seats and waiting room on an open side. Oldies shuffling in (my lord, Aussies are fat all of a sudden- it must be hell being fat and old, sitting ducks for vascular-respiratory diseases, but that’s for another time.)
On the front counter, there are three modular perspex frames. Properly spic, no streaks, no scratches, covering the breadth of the counter, with a 200mm gap along the bottom for forms, eftpos scanners, etc.
The clients are 3/4 old, and like all oldies, they are getting weak of speech, hard of hearing, and slower on the uptake.
The reception girls are all youngish, and like all reception girls they are keen to help, and wearing obstructions on at least one ear.
Now these two cohorts are separated by something which both dampens the person on the other side, and echoes the speaker as they go.
So what do they do? They oldies lean forward and down towards the gap and speak louder and longer, and the girls lean up and forward and do the same.
Must be a complete stuffup for spreading the common cold, let alone the Wuhan Zombie Virus, which we all know stays airbourne for 48 hours and can creep under weatherproof doorjambs.
Some smart people sure are stupid.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 7:06 pm

She’s insanely good looking and mentally insane to be with the wife-bashing lunatic, Sean Penn

A solid 6/10.
No more.
No less.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
September 6, 2021 7:07 pm

People here are a little bit interested in the truth ‘a suggestion’.

Why?
You are never going to convince them to honour the truth who are bathed in lies.
Lie back. Use their lies to smite them.
It’s all marketing now – truth has no bearing or value here anymore.

Franx
Franx
September 6, 2021 7:08 pm

Guy should by now be a sadder man but wiser. Also, a bent for simple corruption now looks relatively benign.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 6, 2021 7:12 pm

Clog German Bolt in full vaccine retard mode tonight.
He refuses to be locked down because of stupid foolish people who won’t obey.
Ironing muchly.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 7:14 pm

It does to me.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
September 6, 2021 7:15 pm

The MSM are going to find half a dozen deaths which were so obviously NOT vax related and knock the whole argument over.

Be prepared. Respond with similar examples of China virus deaths that were obviously NOT virus related. Make the equivalence and then make them renounce the China virus deaths that were WITH and not FROM. This is an opportunity to re-install the truth.

duncanm
duncanm
September 6, 2021 7:18 pm

What’s happened to Bolt. He really is a bit retarded these days.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 6, 2021 7:19 pm

Strikes me it might make a very nice children’s story, “The Magic Wishing Machine’

Powerline in their picks links has this fine story today:

“A Book No One Will Publish” (5 Sep)

Well worth a read, and to realize that the powers of the day, any day, really have no idea.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 6, 2021 7:20 pm

If there’s anything in the idea that the vax is programmed to kill off those who take it, all the credulous and obedient will be gone; scepticism and contumacy will dominate in the next generation. Also, a disposition to murder those responsible.

JC
JC
September 6, 2021 7:22 pm

Sancho, don’t under-egg the omelette

P
P
September 6, 2021 7:27 pm

A Book No One Will Publish” (5 Sep)

Well worth a read, and to realize that the powers of the day, any day, really have no idea.

Thanks Bruce. Made my day!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 6, 2021 7:29 pm

No Indolent.
According to Bolt “He’s free!”

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 7:29 pm

Indolent
In fact you have no idea of his cause of death.

JMH
JMH
September 6, 2021 7:30 pm

If there’s anything in the idea that the vax is programmed to kill off those who take it, all the credulous and obedient will be gone; scepticism and contumacy will dominate in the next generation. Also, a disposition to murder those responsible.

Dr BG. Some of the species are bound to survive due to stronger genetics. Superior genes. Just a whim.

sfw
sfw
September 6, 2021 7:31 pm

John O’Grady wrote quite a few books, I went through a phase where I read most of them, all pretty good, a while back I was going through my books and found one by him called ‘Smokey Joe the Fish Eater’ more geared towards children but worth an afternoon and a glass of wine. He was/is under rated.

Muddy
Muddy
September 6, 2021 7:33 pm

For what it is worth, I think that D’over Cat is purring smoothly.
Thanks to Dover0Beach and all contributors.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 7:37 pm

JCsays:

September 6, 2021 at 7:22 pm

Sancho, don’t under-egg the omelette

Alright, alright.
7/10.
(She’s really a 6.5 tops, but I really don’t want to fight you).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 7:39 pm

Muddysays:

September 6, 2021 at 7:33 pm

For what it is worth, I think that D’over Cat is purring smoothly.
Thanks to Dover0Beach and all contributors.

Yes.
The plush leather lounges and exquisite Persian carpets really make it darned spiffy.

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2021 7:39 pm

College football has effectively said FU to Dr Fauci.

Now THIS is a statement of intent.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 6, 2021 7:40 pm

Bolt.
Gave up on him some time ago.
Takes a position then vacillates.
Tried to be a conservative hero but tend to reverts to his Labor roots.

JC
JC
September 6, 2021 7:42 pm

Indolent.

What the Fuck is The Australian National Review?

It appears that the story you linked from there.

This:

Indolent says:
September 6, 2021 at 7:26 pm

Francis Mossman: 33-year-old New Zealand Actor Dead 15 Days After Experimental Pfizer mRNA Injection

Is fake fucking news.

Here’s the story about the dude in New Corp’s site

EntertainmentCelebrity LifeCelebrity Deaths

Actor Francis Mossman found dead in Sydney at age 33

Actor Francis Mossman has been found dead in Sydney with friends saying he was struggling with his mental health during lockdown.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/celebrity-deaths/francis-mossman-star-if-shortland-street-sparticus-the-horizon-found-dead-in-sydney-at-age-33/news-story/f180a0544d7d8fc86719ff6ca67af0f2

Be careful with shit like this, because there’s a lot of bullshit going on, on the web.

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2021 7:43 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2021 7:46 pm

Here’s the story about the dude in New Corp’s site

And I should believe New Corp? Why? The point is, and I have no way of verifying this, did he receive the injection two weeks earlier or not.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 7:46 pm

“Be careful with shit like this, because there’s a lot of bullshit going on, on the web.”

Correct.

JC
JC
September 6, 2021 7:51 pm

And I should believe New Corp? Why? The point is, and I have no way of verifying this, did he receive the injection two weeks earlier or not.

I doubt whether we’re testing experimental vaccines in Australia, but even if we were and he actually did receive the jab, News corp is reporting that he knocked himself off, which is hardly croaking as a result of the vax taking him down.

And yes, I’d believe News Corp before I’d believe what looks like a fake news site.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 7:54 pm

The news article article actually says
‘Actor Francis Mossman took his own life at the weekend’

132andBush
132andBush
September 6, 2021 7:54 pm

UAP and Kelly are stupid and naive to publish that statistic claiming they are vax deaths.
The MSM are going to find half a dozen deaths which were so obviously NOT vax related and knock the whole argument over.
I dislike deceptive reporting of this stuff, no matter who is doing it.

100%

Not the way we’re going to win the debate.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 6, 2021 7:56 pm

Nurse in south Florida – Don’t believe the lies.

A nurse marching around with a sign saying “Ivermectin Saves Lives” is a brave lady right now. The opposition to it has amped up noticeably this week both in the US and here. The Rolling Stone fake story was pretty breathtaking, but the clueless Lefty responses were even more so. Lies are everywhere right now.

I am mystified why the Left has gone so crazy on this. After all they’re in as much danger as everyone is, you’d think they’d be keen for viable treatments from any source.

132andBush
132andBush
September 6, 2021 7:57 pm

JC,

She’s a decent “Girl next door”.

6.5

JC
JC
September 6, 2021 7:59 pm

I am mystified why the Left has gone so crazy on this

The only reason I can see is that Ivermectin may have been promoted on the Right by anti vaxxers as a substitute for the vax.

Rolling Stone should be close to gonsky now. They suffered a previous fakery some while ago.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 7:59 pm

Be careful with shit like this, because there’s a lot of bullshit going on, on the web.

Exactly.
See the commentary above on the 468 “vax deaths”.
Trying to out-lie the liars will not end well.
If there are twenty legitimately suspicious deaths from vaxxes, that is enough to make a case.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
September 6, 2021 8:01 pm

Not the way we’re going to win the debate.

NO, you’re not going to win the “debate”.

There is no debate. Debates are for school children and academics.

There is only punch and counter-punch.

There is only their propaganda and our propaganda.

Why do you think they spend so much effort suppressing EVERYTHING we say. Not just our untruths. Propaganda works best when it is UNOPPOSED. The more propaganda we issue, the less effective their propaganda is.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 8:03 pm

And decent people will trust nobody.

MatrixTransform
September 6, 2021 8:04 pm

I am mystified why the Left has gone so crazy on this. After all they’re in as much danger as everyone is, you’d think they’d be keen for viable treatments from any source.

maaate … you know lotsa things
maybe … they know something you don’t?

did you see any of the video of the guy going nuts in the Holiday Inn?
(trust me, that was a Holiday Inn … don’t ask how I know)

Do you reckon it was the Dept of Health or the Dept of Justice telling the guy the STFU or he’ll be gassed?

Seriously , that’s how they refer to them inside the Hot Hotels.

Health and Justice … and the people locked in, they’re “guests”

I kid you not.

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2021 8:07 pm

Database of Adverse Events

They published an extract from the TGA database of adverse events with a link to the full document. This is exactly the way to win an argument.

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
September 6, 2021 8:08 pm

JC, I wouldn’t crawl over her to get to you but at best a 6/10.

MatrixTransform
September 6, 2021 8:08 pm

There is only their propaganda and our propaganda.

there’s also choice and consequence.

go on, shut me out of civil society

… just don’t fucking whinge when it no longer works the way you think it does

(not you specifically Ms Suggestion, the propagandists)

132andBush
132andBush
September 6, 2021 8:10 pm
Franx
Franx
September 6, 2021 8:11 pm

Propaganda need not be lies.

MatrixTransform
September 6, 2021 8:12 pm

Here’s an 8.5

chunky, but cute

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 8:13 pm

UAP and Kelly are stupid and naive to publish that statistic claiming they are vax deaths.

No, they’re not; what I said, was “possibly 468 deaths”, from the data the UAP published, from the official data with no commentary.

The MSM are going to find half a dozen deaths which were so obviously NOT vax related and knock the whole argument over.

They were ALWAYS going to run interference, as they are now for 900+ obese/elderly people dying “with” COVID.

I dislike deceptive reporting of this stuff, no matter who is doing it.

What have I said, or how is publishing the data, deceptive in any way at all?

Trying to out-lie the liars will not end well.

I am not lying at all. Neither were UAP.

If there are twenty legitimately suspicious deaths from vaxxes, that is enough to make a case.

There are possibly 468 “legitimately suspicious” deaths from the vaccine. The public service refuses to give us more data on both COVID and vaccine deaths, under the veil of privacy.

132andBush
132andBush
September 6, 2021 8:14 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2021 8:15 pm

Propaganda need not be lies.

Propaganda is, by definition, lies. It is selling something. More than that, pushing something. Any basis in truth is of no concern and highly unlikely because why, then, would a sales pitch be required?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 8:15 pm

100%

Not the way we’re going to win the debate.

FMD.
It’s like the kid from the Sydney school who died of the vax.
Except he had an inherited heart condition.
And wasn’t vaxxed.
Of course, when his school, his family and his friendship group all debunked the story, we doubled down and called it … they were all in on the cover up.
Fucking hell.
Look, I have reservations about these vaxxes, which is why I want FACTS, not some publicity whore like Palmer dropping unsolicited glib attention seeking texts into my inbox.

calli
calli
September 6, 2021 8:16 pm

under the veil of privacy.

Interesting that your cause of death may be deemed “private” but your vaccination status is not.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 8:20 pm

Look, I have reservations about these vaxxes, which is why I want FACTS, not some publicity whore like Palmer dropping unsolicited glib attention seeking texts into my inbox.

That’s why I posted a link to an extract from official Commonwealth data.

Interesting that your cause of death may be deemed “private” but your vaccination status is not.

Like the fat guy who was 30 who didn’t die of COVID in QLD. Palaszczuk lionised him as a poor unfortunate.

Just as fake as the Sydney school kid dying from a COVID vaccination.

Muddy
Muddy
September 6, 2021 8:21 pm

A Suggestion says:
September 6, 2021 at 8:01 pm
There is no debate.

Absolutely Correct. There are no mutually agreed-upon rules here.

There is only punch and counter-punch.
Kind of correct. There is punch, and mace-the-face and then counter-punch.

There is only their propaganda and our propaganda.
Yes. The key is to find an effective means of disseminating OUR propaganda, and simultaneously discrediting theirs.

Propaganda works best when it is UNOPPOSED. The more propaganda we issue, the less effective their propaganda is.
Yes to the first bit. Kinda sorta maybe to the last bit.
In the absence of a counter-narrative, people will believe, or lean towards believing, the only message they receive.
Quantity in propaganda can be useful with the ‘firehose of falsehood’ method, but otherwise it needs to be targeted, although it can be layered.

One of the keys is to gain and maintain the initiative. You will NOT win by abiding by your opponent’s rules. You need to SET the rules/pace/conditions, and then try to limit your opponent to only reacting to your plays. For example: ‘Fact Checking’ as a defense is ineffective, because by the time you can respond, the greater proportion of media attention has moved on (to another wild allegation or untruth, thus keeping you constantly chasing your own tail, rather than devoting time to undermining their credibility).

This is a competition for influence.

132andBush
132andBush
September 6, 2021 8:22 pm

And a 9.5 hanging out with Neo

That one’s for Matrix.

Franx
Franx
September 6, 2021 8:25 pm

Well, since the thinking was restricted to that of counting COVID deaths irrespective of ‘with’ or ‘from’ COVID, the 468 deaths is in turn within the same parameters of jabbed persons undifferentiated in terms having died ‘with’ or ‘from’ the jab, for jabbed they were. The 468 is a figure playing by the rules, after all.

Baba
Baba
September 6, 2021 8:26 pm

448

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 8:27 pm

Dot.
Not a shot at you, but UAP are deliberately fucking dog-whistling.
Publishing stats which are designed to mislead.
They set the dogs running on social media.
At 8:00 a.m. tomorrow Karl Fucking Stefanovic will have the tearful mother of some bloke who got vaxxed and then dropped his bike into a barrier and killed himself.
“Why is Clive Palmer doing this to me?”
A classic exploding cigar moment for Fat Clive.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 8:27 pm

Yeah

448-20 = 428

You know what I mean.

Muddy
Muddy
September 6, 2021 8:28 pm

You can only get away with lies in propaganda if you hold the initiative.
If you hold the initiative, hypocrisy applies only to your opponent, NOT to you.
Calling the shots means that the spotlight is always on your opponent to respond. You do not give them time to respond. You simply move on to the next allegation.

rickw
rickw
September 6, 2021 8:30 pm

Actor Francis Mossman has been found dead in Sydney with friends saying he was struggling with his mental health during lockdown.

If it’s not an indictment of vax’s it’s at very least an indictment of governments psychopathic lockdowns.

If government keeps this shit up, all they’ll have left standing is a bunch of hard headed angry SOB’s to deal with.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 8:32 pm

Yes Franx.
It’s consistent.
No probs.
But if your objective is to win a PR war on this one, that is the way not to do it.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 8:33 pm

but UAP are deliberately fucking dog-whistling.

Of course they are. Do you know how to get onto the news?

Publishing stats which are designed to mislead.

If the stats are designed to mislead:

1. They are official government stats, and were designed all along to be deceptive.
2. The pro vaccination zealots have to admit that young healthy people being vaccinated is useless (we already know herd immunity is impossible as the vaccines perform too poorly) AND they are also vaccinating dying oldies (which is STUPID and useless).

Also, the raw data is being linked to, isn’t good if the public starts asking what does it mean and what is going on? As in, we are letting them make up their own mind if they are not lazy.

At 8:00 a.m. tomorrow Karl Fucking Stefanovic will have the tearful mother of some bloke who got vaxxed and then dropped his bike into a barrier and killed himself.

They were always going to run interference.

“Why is Clive Palmer doing this to me?”
A classic exploding cigar moment for Fat Clive.

If not Clive Palmer they’d be lying about horse paste or herd immunity ever happening with these inferior quality vaccines.

2dogs
2dogs
September 6, 2021 8:33 pm

No, I would actually be ok with that.

Provided there was a religious exemption, which could be conditional upon agreeing to being banned from adultery.

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2021 8:33 pm
rosie
rosie
September 6, 2021 8:36 pm

It is an indictment of lockdowns.
Like Dieter Brummer he’s a minor celebrity who’s suicide is ,at least in part because of lockdowns.

How many others?

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 6, 2021 8:36 pm

Speaking of fiction books worth having in your library….

– Derek Robinson’s WWI and II flying stories, such as Piece of Cake

– Ruth Rendell’s Inspector Wexford series

– Joseph Wambaugh’s police stories such as The New Centurions

– anything written by Ed McBain, and also as Evan Hunter

– all the Hornblower series

– all of the Aubrey/Maturin series starting with Master and Commander

– anything written by John Winton

– all of Ian Fleming’s Bond books

That’ll do for now.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 8:38 pm

No, I would actually be ok with that.

If the taxpayers paid for young men’s vasectomies, they may never ask for your permission to have it reversed.

No sperm jacking. No baby traps. No false paternity claims. Not having to suffer listening to 600 lb man hating psychopaths demand fREEEE abortions.

Given men have a fertility window from 13 to 103 and women are 13 to 43 (basically)….

Yep, in this instance, I do feel sorry for women.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 8:38 pm

If it’s not an indictment of vax’s it’s at very least an indictment of governments psychopathic lockdowns.

You should be advising Fat Clive.
FMD, there is plenty of material to make a case here:-
– separated families
– jobs lost
– last mental health damage
– missed cancer diagnoses
– nine vax deaths of people in the prime of life (could it be more?)
We do not need to make shit up.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 6, 2021 8:41 pm

Speaking of fiction books worth having in your library….

George MacDonald Fraser, particularly the “Flashman” series.

Robert Heinlein.

George Shipway.

Crossie
Crossie
September 6, 2021 8:42 pm

Terry McCrann just remarked to Rita Panahi that Biden’s stuff up in Afghanistan will have repercussions throughout this century. What I make of this is that Biden will be a byword for failure or disaster.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 8:43 pm

Be careful with shit like this, because there’s a lot of bullshit going on, on the web.

Yes indeed. As Keith deLacy mentioned the other day, hysterical activists are a millstone around the neck of any otherwise noble cause.

As with the 15 year old who died from a genetic heart condition, this sort of thing is decidedly unhelpful, and tars all reasonable questioners with the nuffie brush.

Crossie
Crossie
September 6, 2021 8:44 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
September 6, 2021 at 8:41 pm
Speaking of fiction books worth having in your library….
George MacDonald Fraser, particularly the “Flashman” series.

Robert Heinlein.

George Shipway.

E.C. Tubb’s Dumarest saga.

calli
calli
September 6, 2021 8:46 pm

Ruth Rendell’s Inspector Wexford series

And her Barbara Vine titles too.

At present I’m re-visiting Shrewsbury and Brother Cadfael (Ellis Peters/Edith Pargeter). Lots of fun in doublet and hose. And cowl, natch.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 8:47 pm

It is an indictment of lockdowns.

Yes. And it should be presented at such, instead of ‘but vaccinated’ when some of these people clearly were not.

The indictment of lockdown issue should be a game changer on its own. That cake doesn’t need shithouse icing to appeal.

Armadillo
Armadillo
September 6, 2021 8:47 pm

4/10 JC. It’s only a head shot of her.

She could be one of those sheliahs your mate is dating and he only sends a photo of her head. She looks really cute, but when you meet her she’s in a wheelchair or has some weird deformity like Kim Kardashians buttocks.

It’s not that I don’t trust you, I’m just going to see how this all pans out.

132andBush
132andBush
September 6, 2021 8:48 pm

We do not need to make shit up.

+1 again.

That Fathers Day footage from the QLD border is another example.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 8:49 pm

Hotel guy who flipped out after being told he was going to get gassed, should be a turning point.

This isn’t a joke anymore.

Crossie
Crossie
September 6, 2021 8:49 pm

As with the 15 year old who died from a genetic heart condition, this sort of thing is decidedly unhelpful, and tars all reasonable questioners with the nuffie brush.

KD, I don’t believe any of the stories we are being told about people who died of COVID. I keep thinking that there are crucial details we are not being told. Everybody making these claims have been proven untrustworthy and therefore incredible.

Armadillo
Armadillo
September 6, 2021 8:52 pm

What I make of this is that Biden will be a byword for failure or disaster.

Bradbury will have more street cred than Biden.

Crossie
Crossie
September 6, 2021 8:52 pm

Anything written by Minette Walters is a good read.

Muddy
Muddy
September 6, 2021 8:52 pm

Fiction books?

The Last Blue Sea by David Forrest.

The 87th Battalion is a mixture of heroes and fledgling soldiers. Drawn together in the jungle of New Guinea in 1943, they are forced to confront their inner fears and the horror of battle. The distant blue sea becomes the symbol of freedom, their link with the outside world.

Based loosely on the experiences of the 58/59th Australian Infantry Battalion in the Salamaua Offensive (Operation Doublet), Late June – mid September, 1943.

If you’ve read Peter Pinney’s The Barbarians about the same campaign, though based (again, loosely), on a neighbouring Australian unit’s experience, Forrest’s story is along similar lines. ‘David Forrest’ was a nom de plume.

132andBush
132andBush
September 6, 2021 8:53 pm

Lets see how popular Dans regional vaccine passport trial isn’t.

We need to start making up small signs to put on toilet doors, drinking fountains, ATMs, etc “Vaccinated Only”.

Siltstone
Siltstone
September 6, 2021 8:54 pm

If an employer demands an employee have a vaccination else lose their job, and the employee does so and consequently becomes ill or dies, it that recorded as a workplace injury or fatality? If not, why not?

132andBush
132andBush
September 6, 2021 8:55 pm

Supermarket trolleys.

vlad redux
vlad redux
September 6, 2021 8:59 pm

The cheeks are too much for my liking, JC.

Her mum was prettier.

rickw
rickw
September 6, 2021 8:59 pm

More of Australia being world famous for being a fascist shithole:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JHLzgXSKys

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 9:00 pm

1. They are official government stats, and were designed all along to be deceptive.

No, Dot, they aren’t.
It is the rawest of raw data.
No more, no less.
Just data.
It is published as a baseline resource for further research (probably longitudinal studies).
For example, a researcher might look at, say, an anaesthetic or a prescription painkiller and see a rise in mortality over time.
They might postulate that there had been changes in prescription practices, dosage levels, whatever.
They then test their hypothesis and prove it or disprove it.
FMD.
This is like saying that 150 people have died with two weeks of crossing the Sydney Harbour Bridge, so the bridge is a cause of death of 150 people.

Muddy
Muddy
September 6, 2021 9:01 pm

132andBush says:
September 6, 2021 at 8:53 pm

That’s an intriguing idea. Seriously.

Gunner, where are you dude? This is your type of operation.

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2021 9:02 pm
duncanm
duncanm
September 6, 2021 9:02 pm

Indolentsays:
September 6, 2021 at 7:26 pm
Francis Mossman: 33-year-old New Zealand Actor Dead 15 Days After Experimental Pfizer mRNA Injection

man commits suicide. News at 11

vlad redux
vlad redux
September 6, 2021 9:03 pm

I never read a book by Josephine Tey I didn’t like.

Nevil Shute wrote a couple of duds early on, but not many; he’s a solid addition to the shelf.

shatterzzz
September 6, 2021 9:03 pm

This may be the start of the BAT FLU inspired tv series .. when BAT FLU mutates into THE WALKING DEAD you get ……….
THE BITE …….. decent for US comedy & well worth a watch ..

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13323626/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

2dogs
2dogs
September 6, 2021 9:06 pm

In an interesting turn of the tables, Putin is now doing to the media in Russia what the media in the US did to Trump: accusations of foreign collusion.

Putin, at least, seems to have some evidence to his claims, though: those classified have, in fact, received foreign funding.

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2021 9:07 pm

Romania closing vaccination centres due to low uptake

70% of the population refused the vaccine. It is as was said before, those countries with a recent taste of dictatorship can recognise the symptoms a mile away. Australians just swallow the agitprop whole.

rickw
rickw
September 6, 2021 9:11 pm

Malcom Robert’s on truckie blockade. Plainly spoken commonsense. A beacon in a sea of idiots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mO8DXJr8Ww

srr
srr
September 6, 2021 9:14 pm

What Australia is Doing is Unbelievable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXiJTFUottk

Sep 6, 2021
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 9:15 pm

132andBushsays:

September 6, 2021 at 8:48 pm

We do not need to make shit up.

+1 again.

That Fathers Day footage from the QLD border is another example.

Yes, thanks for reminding me.
I meant to raise a similar point.
The PR tide is turning.
The border lunch on the barriers was a powerful image.
Stories of stranded kids are popping up at the rate of one a day.
The lefty Courier Mail is kicking Palace-Chook over the NRL double standards.
The even more lefty Age is giving Dan a spray for being a one trick pony lockdown king.
The pressure point on vaxes is on the passport and the right to choose.
Go there.
Making shit up about vax deaths will kill that stone dead.

Crossie
Crossie
September 6, 2021 9:15 pm

Paul Murray keeps advocating the vaccine but does anyone know whether he has been vaccinated?

He also thinks that people allergic to vaccines should be given a pass but conscientious objectors not, they must be punished by exclusion from society, work etc. I thought it was about biology. It does not compute.

duncanm
duncanm
September 6, 2021 9:15 pm

As usual, cherry-picked scales (starting time) to make some point.

Try this: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?yScale=log&zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=SWE~ISR

It makes the same point – Israel is no better off than Sweden – but does it without numerical sophistry

duncanm
duncanm
September 6, 2021 9:16 pm

URL got munged. Maybe this works.

Baba
Baba
September 6, 2021 9:22 pm

He also thinks that people allergic to vaccines should be given a pass

A posthumous exemption? Like if the woman drowned she wasn’t a witch?

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2021 9:26 pm
srr
srr
September 6, 2021 9:26 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXiJTFUottk
“FourthDerivative
16 hours ago
I remember a time when “murders puppies” was just an exaggerated shorthand for describing someone as hideously evil.

It’s no longer an exaggeration.”

srr
srr
September 6, 2021 9:29 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXiJTFUottk

WC_2 Electric_Boogaloo
14 hours ago
Aussie police: theyre calling us Nazis, what should we do?
arrest them, criminalize dissent, that’ll show them

srr
srr
September 6, 2021 9:32 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXiJTFUottk
er du dum eller hvad
15 hours ago
I notice the animal rights activists seem to be very quiet on this. They’ve all moved onto the new cult of Covid

Arky
September 6, 2021 9:32 pm

Israeli latest data on vaccines, deaths, cases, and shit like that.
Again, data is sliced up and packaged to make it hard to find deaths by vaccination status and age group:
..
https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general
..
But this guy claims the following:
Ran Israeli
@RanIsraeli
·
13h
Now we have the deaths data by vaccination status on our COVID dashboard!
There were 607 deaths in August 2021.
Deaths by vaccination status:
Unvaccinated->218 (35.9%)
1 dose->14 (2.3%)
1+2->313 (51.6%)
1+2+3->62 (10.2%)

579 of the deaths (95.4%)->age 60+

srr
srr
September 6, 2021 9:33 pm

Animal Rights was always just a step towards Dehumanising people.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 6, 2021 9:37 pm

Birdie is back, destroying the Dash-Cat.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2021 9:39 pm

“Birdie is back, destroying the Dash-Cat.”

Inevitable….and here we have Mrs Nong….or perhaps Mrs Nong is there too.

She and Bird are two sides of the same coin.

srr
srr
September 6, 2021 9:39 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXiJTFUottk

“FourthDerivative
16 hours ago
I remember a time when “murders puppies” was just an exaggerated shorthand for describing someone as hideously evil.

It’s no longer an exaggeration.”

Animal Rights was always just a step towards Dehumanising people.

“norwegianwiking
15 hours ago
They’ve also killed newborns by refusing them surgery to fix heart defects.
Somehow humans react worse to the idea of people shooting puppies than letting infants die.”

132andBush
132andBush
September 6, 2021 9:40 pm

The pressure point on vaxes is on the passport and the right to choose.
Go there.

Hence my “Principles trump nanowrigglers” comment the other day. (Whatever thread it was.)

MatrixTransform
September 6, 2021 9:41 pm

That one’s for Matrix.

who wants a tatou ?

srr
srr
September 6, 2021 9:48 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXiJTFUottk
“Jann Guerrero
9 hours ago
“I swear we’re the good guys here!” shoots puppy
“This isn’t like the Third Reich, where-” shoots puppy
“People are being herded into camps,” shoots puppy
“We’re all doing this for your own good.” shoots puppy

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 9:50 pm

rrrrsrsrssssr:

I remember a time when “murders puppies” was just an exaggerated shorthand for describing someone as hideously evil.

First, define ‘murder’. Is it like when you’re at the footy and say ‘I could murder a Four n Twenty’? Or murder, as in ‘Shannon Noll murdered the iconic Little Heroes anthem “What About Me?”, or murder, as in ‘Margaret Thatcher was murdered’, or murder, as in ‘there was nobody on the grassy knoll to murder KFK’, or murder, as in ‘Mick Taylor definitely murdered all those backpacker chicks’?

Then, define ‘puppies’ because there’s at least two definitions of ‘puppies’ I’m aware of. Plus, what if they were shark pups? Or rat pups? Rat pups with bubonic plague?

Is someone really a bad person who murders rat pups infected with something that killed half of Europe? Is that what you’re syaing rsssrsrsrrs?

That’s your problem. You don’t think.

MatrixTransform
September 6, 2021 9:54 pm

fiction books worth having in your library

Moby Dick

Call me Ishmael …

“and Ishmael and Hagar were banished to the desert, though God promised that Ishmael would raise up a great nation of his own.”

and here we are

srr
srr
September 6, 2021 9:54 pm

“mh says:
September 6, 2021 at 9:40 pm

Churches Required to Use Vaccination Certificate Systems for Vaccinated-ONLY Worship

https://caldronpool.com/churches-required-to-use-vaccination-certificate-systems-for-vaccinated-only-worship/

Arky
September 6, 2021 9:55 pm

Now pay attention.
I’m going to give the Worldometer cases that resolved in death for some countries, and immediately after link to that country’s population pyramid. Get it? Percent of covid cases that end in death, followed by picture.
See if you can figure out the pattern:
Israel 0.7% —>Pyramid
Poland 3% —> Pyramid

Arky
September 6, 2021 9:55 pm

India 1% —> Pyramid

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 9:56 pm

The Hun:

The blows keep coming for Nadia Bartel as the influencer gets dropped by another major brand after copping a huge fine over her ‘snorting’ scandal.

Blows. Hahaha.

Snort!*

*Deliberate!

Arky
September 6, 2021 9:56 pm

Finland 2% —> Pyramid

MatrixTransform
September 6, 2021 9:57 pm

fiction books worth having in your library

The Plague
— Camus

The Plague is considered an existentialist classic despite Camus’ objection to the label. The novel stresses the powerlessness of the individual characters to affect their destinies. The narrative tone is similar to Kafka’s, especially in The Trial, whose individual sentences potentially have multiple meanings; the material often pointedly resonating as stark allegory of phenomenal consciousness and the human condition.
— WikiTardia

Arky
September 6, 2021 9:59 pm

See if you can figure out the pattern:
Israel 0.7% —>Pyramid
Poland 3% —> Pyramid

Arky
September 6, 2021 10:00 pm

Thankyou page turn and dickheads who couldn’t wait one minute.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Rorschach
Rorschach
September 6, 2021 10:05 pm

Terry McCrann just remarked to Rita Panahi that Biden’s stuff up in Afghanistan will have repercussions throughout this century.

The as yet undiscussed consequence will likely be the deterioration of the us military. Both infrastructure and personnel.

I mean – who would want to join an army where you will be left behind if it suits the suits – and the brass are more interested in woke credentialism than combat ability.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 10:06 pm

Thankyou page turn and dickheads who couldn’t wait one minute.

Well, I thought you were finished.

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
September 6, 2021 10:12 pm

Good stuff Arky

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2021 10:14 pm

I would, in all seriousness, knock Nadia Coppolino (Bartel) back.

I wouldn’t be nasty about it. I would politely decline.

Solid 4.

MatrixTransform
September 6, 2021 10:20 pm

Solid 4

… using the National Metering Institute’s approved 6-pack scale

maybe even a 5

depends if she can cook

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 10:25 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

September 6, 2021 at 9:56 pm

The Hun:

The blows keep coming for Nadia Bartel as the influencer gets dropped by another major brand after copping a huge fine over her ‘snorting’ scandal.

Gasp!
A real job awaits.
Nadia is an Spring Carnival ambassador.
Apparently she was shocked to find that this did not afford her diplomatic immunity.
Not sure she will lose that gig.
Flemington in spring is the biggest coke fest on the planet short of Colombia winning the World Cup.

MatrixTransform
September 6, 2021 10:25 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 10:27 pm

an spring carnival ambassador?
Sorrys.
English not Sancho’s mother tongue.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 6, 2021 10:28 pm

From “A Book That No-one Will Publish”-
The Lorax protects nature.
Sure he does. How much wood pulp does Seuss inc churn through?
The Grinch Who Stole Christmas preaches the woes of consumerism.
Oh yeah, he sure carved up that beast.
Not dissing the Doctor, but whoever wrote that unreconstructed marshland Marxist mush at the end needs to check themselves.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 10:29 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

September 6, 2021 at 10:14 pm

I would, in all seriousness, knock Nadia Coppolino (Bartel) back.

I’ve seen better heads coming out of the gates at Sandown dogs.
Total greyhound.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 6, 2021 10:32 pm

Now pay attention.
I’m going to give the Worldometer cases that resolved in death for some countries, and immediately after link to that country’s population pyramid. Get it? Percent of covid cases that end in death, followed by picture.
See if you can figure out the pattern:
Israel 0.7% —>Pyramid
Poland 3% —> Pyramid
*****
It’s almost as if countries with a much higher proportion of very elderly had a higher proportion of covid deaths.
And countries with a much higher proportion of young people have very low levels of covid deaths.
Maybe young healthy people just aren’t really vulnerable, yet they’re being imprisoned for hours a day 7 days a week on an indefinite basis.
If only someone could get this information to Maximum Leader I’m sure he’d rectify the situation.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 6, 2021 10:35 pm

Crossie says:
September 6, 2021 at 9:15 pm
Paul Murray keeps advocating the vaccine but does anyone know whether he has been vaccinated?

He also thinks that people allergic to vaccines should be given a pass but conscientious objectors not, they must be punished by exclusion from society, work etc.

So much for “Libertarian Paul.”

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 10:41 pm

The as yet undiscussed consequence will likely be the deterioration of the us military. Both infrastructure and personnel.

I mean – who would want to join an army where you will be left behind if it suits the suits – and the brass are more interested in woke credentialism than combat ability.

At least another 20 years of relative wilderness for the US Military. Especially the US Army.

Much like the broken, drug-addled, mostly-conscripted, badly demoralised and publicly humiliated post-Vietnam Army that still had to face the Red Army’s armour divisions in East Germany.

There were still enough warriors and sensible bureaucrats that had not resigned or been forced out to preserve and rebuild the Army by the late 80s.

I suspect there are still enough now post-Iraq and Afghan, but the root-and-branch rebuilding will be that much harder due the near-total leftwit infestation of the US Department of Defence and Chiefs of Staff…

Crossie
Crossie
September 6, 2021 10:41 pm

I mean – who would want to join an army where you will be left behind if it suits the suits – and the brass are more interested in woke credentialism than combat ability.

The next US president, hopefully Republican, will have to bring to court martial all current Joint Chiefs of Staff. They resisted Trump’s efforts at every turn and downright refused to act on his orders and then completely rolled over for Biden’s idiotic plans. This was the clearest dereliction of duty that no “just following orders” will excuse.

If the JCS are not punished very few young people will join the US armed forces.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 6, 2021 10:46 pm

In other news, do any Cats know how much aether there is in the Universe?

In my new role as Evil Made Manifest, I have decided to set my Nano-wriggler legions to eating up all the aether in the Universe. Thus restoring physics to normality.

And also because it upsets Bird…

Crossie
Crossie
September 6, 2021 10:49 pm

So much for “Libertarian Paul.”

Yes, I guess that cover is blown. The other thing is that Paul Murray is friends with ScoMo and does everything he can to cover for him. ScoMo goes one way so does Paul, ScoMo goes the other way, so does Paul.

I watch his program when he has Rowan Dean on or Matt Canavan. When Nicholas Reece is on or some other Labor spruiker and I channel surf somewhere else.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 6, 2021 10:58 pm

Israel:

There were 607 deaths in August 2021.
Deaths by vaccination status:
Unvaccinated->218 (35.9%)
1 dose->14 (2.3%)
1+2->313 (51.6%)
1+2+3->62 (10.2%)

579 of the deaths (95.4%)->age 60+

So, only 28 deaths were under 60’s: much as you would expect.

Assuming all the under 60 deaths were unvaccinated, this says that, as a minimum, 190 of the dead over 60’s were unvaccinated. That’s 33% of the over 60 group.

Back in February, Israel had reportedly vaccinated 90% of its over 60 population – i.e only 10% were unvaccinated.

So no big surprise that the unvaccinated oldies are 3x over represented in the August Delta Covid fatalities.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 11:00 pm

This is like saying that 150 people have died with two weeks of crossing the Sydney Harbour Bridge, so the bridge is a cause of death of 150 people.

It is actually nothing like that at all.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 11:07 pm

So no big surprise that the unvaccinated oldies are 3x over represented in the August Delta Covid fatalities.

Interesting to see specifically how old they are, their living arrangements and so on.

cohenite
September 6, 2021 11:14 pm

Titles for the jaded:

How to succeed in business without a penis: strategies and secrets for the working woman.

Everything I know about women I learnt from my tractor: one farmer’s recipe for happiness.

The big book of lesbian horse stories: when these Sapphic sisters saddle up ecstasy is only a stirrup away.

Facts you should know about indigestion: the alimentary canal made simple.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2021 11:28 pm

It is actually nothing like that at all.

OK.
Let’s forget analogies.
What happened was that, following the administration of a vaccine, 464? people died in the subsequent 14 day period.
No causal link claimed.
Just that they died after the vaccine.
Not as a result of the vaccine.
Some were fat bastards who died of a heart attack.
Some pranged their cars into big gum trees.
Some topped themselves.
Nine we know of developed vaccine related blood clots.
Those nine definitely died as a result of the vaccine.
Were there more than nine?
Worth investigating.
Were all 464 vax victims?
No.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2021 11:35 pm

Yes Sancho, keep on going.

It is a lot like another metric. If only the public talked about it – like yet another one, the positive rate being less than or equal to the false positive rate seen in the literature (it was 0.2% yesterday in NSW).

JC
JC
September 6, 2021 11:43 pm

Oh God

Possibly the stupidest most ridiculous economic non-analysis I’ve ever read.

Money laundering ‘lifts property’
CANBERRA, AUSTRALIA-NCA NewsWire Photos 24 September 2020: AUSTRAC CEO Nicole Rose during a press conference at Parliament House in Canberra. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Gary Ramage

Austrac has warned that laundering the proceeds of crime through property purchases can drive up prices and keep legitimate buyers out of the market.

Nicole Rose should be summarily fired for being a fucking moron. This moronic bint would be earning 800K a year.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/financial-services/austrac-warns-on-impact-of-laundered-money-in-property-market/news-story/8f48b621bd1e6fc8b3f8c301ad9cf4f5

Dot
Dot
September 7, 2021 12:04 am

Via a very disreputable source:

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/heres-how-many-fully-vaccinated-mass-residents-have-tested-positive-for-covid/2481272/

NBC Boston:

Nearly 20,000 fully vaccinated Massachusetts residents have now tested positive for COVID-19 and more than 130 of them have died, according to the latest state data on breakthrough cases published Tuesday.

The Department of Public Health has tracked a cumulative 19,443 confirmed COVID-19 infections among those fully vaccinated in the state to date and a total of 144 deaths.

The breakthrough cases represent just a small percentage — about 0.43% — of the more than 4.5 million people who have been vaccinated and the deaths an even smaller percentage — just 0.003%

In the last week alone, 3,074 new breakthrough cases — infections in people who have been vaccinated — have been reported. Health officials said 651 of the new breakthrough cases resulted in hospitalization, or about 0.01% of all fully vaccinated individuals.

Breakthrough infections again accounted for about 40% of all cases reported in Massachusetts last week.

The number of new breakthrough cases announced each Tuesday has climbed each week since DPH announced the initial batch of 7,737 breakthrough infections on July 31.

Dr. Philip Landrigan, director of the Global Public Health Program at Boston College, told The Boston Globe last month that the rise in breakthrough cases “reflects the fact that the delta variant is loose in the population, and it reflects the fact that there’s a lot of virus circulating around.”

Experts also told the Globe the increase in breakthrough cases is attributable to diminishing immunity from the COVID-19 vaccines, emphasizing the need for booster shots in the coming months.

Dot
Dot
September 7, 2021 12:13 am

Funny conspiracies:

*Walmarts are joined by underground tunnels, like a private military
*Sir Ian McKellen is “playing” a role as Ron Paul and as a cousin of the Bushes, a US Federal judge.
*Jimmy Kimmel is a southern Republican Senator.
*Chevy Chase is Jay Rockerfeller
*Nelson Mandela was Morgan Freeman, as was Jimi Hendrix.

MatrixTransform
September 7, 2021 12:32 am

Fascista: dear Matrix, we really want to offer your solution to XX difficult problem to Dept Health/Justice so that we can fuck youse all harder and get paid for it. Please reply. it’s getting urgent now

Matrix: Monica Bellucci is a bit of a hottie right?

Armadillo
Armadillo
September 7, 2021 12:34 am

It’s going to be hilarious when they reach 90% vaccination rates.

Especially if they keep reporting those who died with COVID. Statistics can be a double edged sword.

The “body count” for vaccinated vs non-vaccinated will be epic.

Armadillo
Armadillo
September 7, 2021 12:38 am

Funny conspiracies:

What’s so funny about them, Dotty?

[insert angry face here]

MatrixTransform
September 7, 2021 12:41 am

like seriously … big tits, puppy-eyes, and an under-bite ?

what’s not to like?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 7, 2021 2:01 am

@Bar Beach Swimmer

I shamelessly copied your post, Bar Beach Swimmer says:
September 6, 2021 at 5:53 pm, to

https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/thread/1388/bar-beach-swimmer?page=1&scrollTo=3163

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 7, 2021 2:11 am

A real criminal conspiracy is to assert that the Australian Constitution has any meaning in Common Law.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 7, 2021 3:05 am

Muddy says:
September 6, 2021 at 8:21 pm
+++++++++++++++++++
China set the propaganda war by filming and distributing via social media blood dripped actors falling “dead” in their streets.

Let us recreate those scenes and show the “actors” getting up after the ‘shoot’.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 7, 2021 3:28 am

Knuckle Dragger says:
September 6, 2021 at 8:43 pm

Be careful with shit like this, because there’s a lot of bullshit going on, on the web.

Yes indeed. As Keith deLacy mentioned the other day, hysterical activists are a millstone around the neck of any otherwise noble cause.

As with the 15 year old who died from a genetic heart condition, this sort of thing is decidedly unhelpful, and tars all reasonable questioners with the nuffie brush.

fair enough that the unfortunate kid had a genetic heart condition BUT was he jabbed, or not?????

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FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 7, 2021 3:35 am

seems to me that if you have a ‘morbidity’ condition then we will jab you.

queen – budapest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8_ig4SPAak

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