Mater’s Musings #22: What Risk?


I’m going to keep this short and sweet and to the point.

The Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) has this on its website:

Source: TGA Website

It says:

“We only register a vaccine if its benefits are much greater than its risks”

Ok. Cool.

Let’s look at the approvals for the Pfizer Vaccine:

Source: TGA Website

So they approve the Pfizer vaccine for > 16-year-olds on 25 Jan 21. Fair enough (just). That includes the 60+ age bracket, they are indeed at risk from Covid and the risk/benefit analysis MAY support the ‘provisional approval’.

However, I take exception to the additional approval for “individuals 12 years and older” which subsequently occurred on 22 July 21.

If they are holding to their statement that “We only register a vaccine if its benefits are much greater than its risks”, where is the risk from Covid for “children between 12 and 15 years of age”?

Even up until today, there has only been a single death of someone in the 0-19 age group that has been related to Covid, and that one is extremely dubious.

Source: Department of Health Website

No, I don’t accept that the Risk Assessment has been carried out appropriately, and I don’t accept that the TGA is holding to their fundamental statement.

If they are including the ‘risk’ to the Federation of Australia, its economy and/or those dying of non-Covid related issues, they would be correct. However, those issues are not within the TGA’s purview, and shouldn’t be considered when assessing a ‘Therapedic Good’. The government alone is responsible for creating these incidental risks, and they alone can remove them.

Shoving this stuff into kids (under a provisional approval), ONLY for the benefit of others, with no appreciable risk to the recipient, is unconscionable.

Let’s see that Risk Assessment!


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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 11, 2021 7:58 am

Perhaps they are worried about the risk to all the future tax revenue they would receive which they see as their right and a citizen’s duty to provide.

What else are they continually trying to protect us from ourselves? Well because of what we are born owing them. You would be selfish and indulgent for us to take even the slightest risk in anything.

Angus Black
Angus Black
September 11, 2021 8:02 am

You’ll never see the data.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 11, 2021 8:31 am

We are considered as their cattle herd. Next it will be ear tags.

Barry
Barry
September 11, 2021 9:13 am

It’s the height of hubris to imagine you can judge the risks vs benefits on a population basis.

The risk vs benefit is only meaningful to an individual or parent of a child.

Who. The. Fuck. Do. They. Think. They. Are.

Purporting to judge MY risk/benefit equation.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
September 11, 2021 9:28 am

We are an international laughing stock.

rickw
rickw
September 11, 2021 9:35 am

The Bureaucracy:

Doing nothing you hoped it would.

Doing everything you hoped it wouldn’t.

Fire all of these lying and cheating arseholes!

Franx
Franx
September 11, 2021 9:42 am

So the TGA is in breach of its singular enabling proviso, making the under 16 vaccinations in turn unlawful.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 11, 2021 10:21 am

In today’s SMH is a report under the title ‘Our patience is wearing thin’: Biden imposes vaccine mandates for 100 million Americans

Announcing his most expansive policies to encourage vaccination since taking office Biden called for Americans to regard getting vaccinated against COVID-19 as a responsibility to the wider society rather than a matter of freedom or personal choice. “This is not about freedom or personal choice – it’s about protecting yourself and those around you. The people you work with, the people you care about, the people you love…We are going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated co-workers.”

So, getting kids vaccinated, it’s all about responsibility to someone else.

It reminds me of that scene in Jaws when, after the shark attack, despite the chief of police’s protestations, the mayor opens the beach for an important public holiday weekend. Many people come across on the ferry to the island and head to the beach. But no-one’s in the water. So the mayor confronts an Amity Island resident he knows who’s with his wife and grandchildren on the beach and pressures him to take the family into the water because, otherwise, “no-one will go in.” Hesitantly, the elderly couple get up and walk the kids into the water, all the while showing trepidation.

That’s what this is like: parents are being pressured to have the kids used to protect” of others; read, politicians and bureaucrats.

MatrixTransform
September 11, 2021 10:34 am

You’ll never see the data.

narratives don’t need data

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 11, 2021 10:44 am

So we should expose kids to a higher than normal risk of death/disability or illness to help protect the over 50s? (possible higher).

Hows that Gerontocracy working for yahs?

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
September 11, 2021 10:47 am

Another child, methinks.
I honestly don’t know what to say in such circumstances.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
September 11, 2021 10:54 am

Mole,
I’m older than those Parliamentarians and their courtiers. It’s axiomatic than I’m wiser than them.
Nobody lives forever. Those that want to spend their last days on life support have made a decision I wouldn’t choose.
If you took horsewhip to the tax gobbling stinkers a compliant media would portray you as the bad one.
Which is a shame.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 11, 2021 11:19 am

Miss Anthropistsays:
September 11, 2021 at 9:28 am
We are an international laughing stock.

For years (decades?) so-called “progressives” have been bleating about damage to Australia’s international reputation. Now that it is actually in the pits, what do they say? The Sounds of Silence!

dover0beach
Admin
September 11, 2021 12:09 pm

Matrix, data are dangerous to narratives, or as Perfidious Dan would say, wicked.

parde
September 11, 2021 1:51 pm

we are living in strange times.the pathologist taking blood is working overtime because even though we can only travel 5k ,she is working so hard because the melbournites are living down here,they have just failed to change their address,so the lies continue.she lies,they lie,we all lie,the police are no where to be seen,they will appear around 8 or nine tonight,but just for drinkers or those that haven`t money to pay their rego,so I`m off to get a good coffee,probably 7k.so i will lie and say I went to the chemist.

srr
srr
September 11, 2021 2:12 pm

Gee, remember when the same people pushing Jabs while hiding data, told us that The Church was evil for it’s Leaders keeping secrets from the people and condemning those who challenged their ‘authority’.

Zipster
Zipster
September 11, 2021 6:07 pm

Let’s see that Risk Assessment!

Hit them with an FOI

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 12, 2021 8:44 am

Bar Beach Swimmersays:
September 11, 2021 at 10:21 am
In today’s SMH is a report under the title ‘Our patience is wearing thin’: Biden imposes vaccine mandates for 100 million Americans

‘Rules for Thee’: Biden’s Vaccine Mandates Don’t Apply to a Big Group of Hypocrites

Gotta love the “Rules for thee, but not for me” crowd.

How many times with Democrats have we seen them pushing for mandates or restrictions in regard to COVID and then disregarding those very same rules themselves? Sometimes within the same day — as with Joe Biden who signed a mask mandate for federal property and then immediately broke it, as did members of his family.

Joe Biden came out with his new dictatorial vaccine mandates on Thursday – executive orders requiring federal employees and federal contractors to be vaccinated and requiring that private businesses with over 100 employees to ensure their employees are vaccinated or tested on a weekly basis. Democratic politicians immediately embraced these edicts, even without knowing what they would say.

But in a move that should not be surprising to us, after all the hypocritical nonsense they have shoved at us, while Biden’s order applies to the folks in the executive branch, it doesn’t apply to the legislative or the judicial branch. Members of Congress and their staff do not have to comply with the mandates. So, 100 million Americans may have to deal with it but they don’t. But of course, they’re perfectly willing to impose it on you — just not themselves.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 12, 2021 8:46 am

Further – ‘Rules for Thee’: Biden’s Vaccine Mandates Don’t Apply to a Big Group of Hypocrites

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said at a press conference on April 29 that the House couldn’t require members to be vaccinated. Video clips of those remarks gained renewed attention online following Biden’s announcement.

“So—so here is the thing. We are—we cannot require someone to be vaccinated. That’s just not what we can do. It is a matter of privacy to know who is or who isn’t,” Pelosi said.

“I can’t go to the Capitol Physician and say, ‘Give me the names of people who aren’t vaccinated, so I can go encourage them or make it known to others to encourage them to be vaccinated.’ So we can’t—we can’t do that,” she said.

Pelosi’s office reiterated that position in a statement to Newsweek on Friday, saying the speaker’s April 29 remarks were “referring to the institution in which she serves.”

“She’s saying she cannot force Members to be vaccinated, which is true,” the statement said.

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