Just to give you an idea of the interest in these no jab, no job issues, around 4,500 people watched live today. (Youtube linked above). There were two speakers and here are some notes:
AFL Solicitors : Tony Nikolic
*AFL has a Telegram t.me/aflsolicitors page and website is http://www.aflsolicitors.com.au
*Government is imposing mandates and employers are running with them
*Mandates are not law, neither are directions or health orders
*Fairwork Australia says employers and employees are essentially encouraged to work together. On what basis are they saying that? Many people are being told that if they are not jabbed by a certain time, they have no job. That is not working together that is coercion. There are deeper issues – people getting the sack, or being told they will be stood down without pay until they meet certain criteria.
*Go to AFL Telegram or website to see their own templates to use (personalise them for own use)
*Go to the coronavirus.fairwork.gov.au website and search for ”If an employee refuses a direction to be vaccinated” paragraphs.
*In the short amount of time these vaccines have been in Australia (202 days?) there have been 57,000+ adverse reactions. This has been compared to other drugs that can be used to treat COVID. Over 4,217 days that they have been in circulation the highest adverse rate is 2,284 (that’s combined all other drugs that can be used to treat COVID)
*Court Cases coming up re mandatory Vax on 30/9 and 1/10. All evidence is in
*Very encouraging to see other law firms following their lead
*A lot of learning and sharing of information with other law firms – building on each other’s successes
*Serious concerns with evidence from experts and he believes the concerns are quite legitimate
*Re aged care – seems that from the outset it was stitched up. What about health and police forces where directives seem to be different for Government employers?
Different if a Minister gives the director than if a police commissioner does. That is a matter for Fair Work and you should go after that.
*In the world there are more concerns and the vaccine does not stop contagion or transmission – it may help symptoms but Government is locking us down to control it; ie that’s what lockdowns are supposed to do
*Essentially then aged care workers are getting the jab as mandated and instead of controlling COVID they are taking it into the vulnerable
*Aged care and healthcare are vulnerable sectors so sending vaccinated people into these sectors is alarming.
*Construction workers are essentially a part of RedUnion’s claim – construction workers, healthcare, aged care, some police officers.
* The highest risk group is 95-99% survival with comorbidities
*Children survivability is high as it is to a healthy person – COVID is almost nothing to them
*Something has to happen legally but even ultimately people have to exercise their rights – change has to happen socially at community level. People need to stand togetherand they need to know their rights
Jack McGuire – Red Union
*Started 6-7 years ago as the QLD Nurses union. Grown enormously and other states have joined so now that is an Australian Union
They also now run:
Teachers Association (national)
Doctors also are starting an alternative to AMA. They want to return to the primacy of doctor/patient relationship
*Police are looking at joining up (Qld, Vic & NSW)
*They have a number of actions at the moment and are working on one of the with AFL Solicitors mentioned above
*600-700 are willing to walk off the job at Queensland Uni Gold Coast Hospital
*Queensland Health have no idea who is vaccinated or not. If the Queensland hospital system collapses the Red union/association members will be waiting outside saying they are ready to work (not vaxed). Exciting!
They surveyed 2,000 nurses and 1,300 will have no job. That alone is a catastrophe for Queensland – but there will be more – think about 1,300 for every 2,000 healthcare workers out of work.
Many in Qld health are taking sick leave for burnout and suspected vax reactions. 602 have been coerced into getting the vaccine
*Police have complained the police are definitely letting crimes go / delaying investigations because they are used for protests etc. One policeman reported a rape case that has been put on hold for the 3rd time due to resourcing issues re forensic analysis being diverted to hotel quarantine and 200 police surveyed. (Sounds like the people are winning so don’t let then bluff you)
*Main advice when you are faced with coercion – do not resign! Allow your employer to take the first action. If you resign you don’t have anything / no claim.
Government workers can ask for a risk assessment with regard to impact of COVID-19 on the workforce and a risk assessment of COVID vaccines. Almost none of the sectors mentioned that they represent have not done this. If pushed you can put pressure on your employer.
*Try getting a risk profile of the vaccines – it will differ for different age groups, how does a 90% vaccinated workforce compare to a 50% vaccinated workforce (for example) – they must rationally assess risk. The vaccines do not mitigate the risks entirely because they don’t guarantee non-infection so they are more like PPE (reduce risk) – then what other PPE measures are there?
Rapid antigen testing can eliminate no jab/no job – cost to mitigate HSE is not a good argument. Some of these are more effective than vaccination.
*The Federal Government still states on its website that the vaccines in use are still being tested i.e they are still experimental. See the TGA website.
*They will act for Teachers Australia-wide if they join them
*Because of the importance of these issues – they are bringing people in even though the issue is happening (usually you need to be a member in good standing). Get on board is the message.