Mater’s Musings #31: Consensus


What is consensus?


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calli
calli
September 30, 2021 7:15 am

Medical consensus

More medical consensus

It’s similar to “the science is settled”, but more dangerous.

calli
calli
September 30, 2021 7:17 am

For the “medical consensus” types…

Here, have one of these.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 30, 2021 7:32 am

If they mean consensus the same way they mean it within the party, then it actually means the wishes of the strongest faction to provide insiders with reward and bolster their power.

And, indeed, that is precisely what it looks like.

Cassie of Sydney
September 30, 2021 7:37 am

“What is consensus?”

I detest the word, if somebody uses that word in conversation with me I know they are either ignorant or they have limited views on the subject. I guess it’s why the progressive left loving using the word, especially when it comes to spruiking their nonsense such as climate change. The other word I detest is “gender”.

Both are oblique, shallow nothing burger words.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 30, 2021 8:19 am

I detest the word, if somebody uses that word in conversation with me I know they are either ignorant or they have limited views on the subject.

Indeed, every new discovery displaces and supersedes an earlier consensus.

Before relativity the consensus was that the domain of Newton’s laws extended tiniest fragment of existence within an atom to the ponderous courses of unimaginably vast stars.

Before traipsing off to WA the consensus was that all swans were white.

Before the discovery of heliobacter pylori consensus was that stomach ulcers were all caused by stress.

Imagine where we would be if ‘consensus’ had ruled science.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 30, 2021 8:30 am

Mother Lode

Imagine where we would be if ‘consensus’ had ruled science.

Everything would look like climate “science”?

calli
calli
September 30, 2021 8:34 am

It’s the oddest perversion and inversion of thought.

We spruik immutable truths as “relative” and the constantly evolving as “absolute”.

This can’t end well.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 30, 2021 8:43 am

If they only allow their own belief to be published, and not peer-reviewed journal articles which differ from that, then Twitter is a religious cult.

And they should be sued for “not baking the wedding cake” every time they reject a tweet based on their religious position.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 30, 2021 8:45 am

So they will be getting rid of 90% of their advertising then?

Or does money buy consensus?

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
September 30, 2021 8:49 am

Consensus in NSW means two lunatic females locking the state down at whim.
No consensus in Victoria. It is one lunatic male locking the whole state down at whim.

Annie
Annie
September 30, 2021 11:05 am

Miss A: Did you forget the Sutton person?

rickw
rickw
September 30, 2021 11:40 am

Consensus: everyone can be wrong.

Megan
Megan
September 30, 2021 11:56 am

Consensus is only achieved by following the path of least resistance and is poison to both good decision making and leadership. It’s an intellectually lazy approach that seems low risk but in reality can be the complete opposite.

At best, you get a decision that is disliked the least by the group. And one that is strongly influenced by individual biases and personalities. At worst, it smothers innovation and excellence, fatally damages trust and absolve everyone of any accountability.
Let’s call it what it is – pluralistic ignorance.

Rabz
September 30, 2021 12:06 pm

It’s always been a weasel word.

Roger
Roger
September 30, 2021 12:28 pm

We spruik immutable truths as “relative” and the constantly evolving as “absolute”.

One sees that also in the churches.

The resurrection becomes a “metaphor” but women’s ordination is a dogma.

It’s simply the long marchers’ way of subverting an institution whilst at the same time consolidating power within it as they take it over.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 30, 2021 3:01 pm

Person circled in image was a local chap known as Hans Draggenaway UnShotten

eb
eb
September 30, 2021 3:01 pm

Margaret Thatcher quote:-

Consensus: “The process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values, and policies in search of something in which no one believes, but to which no one objects; the process of avoiding the very issues that have to be solved, merely because you cannot get agreement on the way ahead. What great cause would have been fought and won under the banner: ‘I stand for consensus?”

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