Was the 2009 Swin flu pandemic a milk run?


Yesterday, twostix posted on the OOT this very interesting study, WHO and the pandemic flu “conspiracies”, published in the British Medical Journal over a decade ago. It looked at the many connections between research scientists, national and international public health officials, and BigPharma, and how they were implicated in the development of responses to future pandemics, from the purchase of antivirals and vaccines to the determination of their efficacy and safety. Here are some quotes:

The WHO maintained this 2 billion estimate even after the winter season in Australia and New Zealand showed that only about one to two out of 1000 people were infected. Last but not least, it changed the very definition of a pandemic.” WHO for years had defined pandemics as outbreaks causing “enormous numbers of deaths and illness” but in early May 2009 it removed this phrase—describing a measure of severity—from the definition.

And:

The group’s policy plan for 2006-10 specifically stated that government representatives needed to “take measures to encourage the pharmaceutical industry to plan its vaccine/antivirals production capacity in advance” and also to “encourage and support research and development of pandemic vaccine” and to “develop a policy for antiviral stockpiling.” It also added that government representatives needed to know that “influenza vaccination and use of antivirals is beneficial and safe.” It said that the group provided “evidence based, palatable information”; and also “networking/exchange with other stakeholders (eg, with industry in order to establish pandemic vaccine and antivirals contracts).” In the meantime, in Roche’s own marketing plan, one goal was to “align Roche with credible third party advocates”. They “leveraged these relationships by enlisting our third-party partners to serve as spokespeople and increase awareness of Tamiflu and its benefits.”

Sounds very familiar doesn’t it. It would be very interesting to find out the connections of those addressing the public about the safety and efficacy of vaccines or antivirals might have to BigPharma, or to the government that is mandating the use of vaccines. The latter is not addressed in the article but my recent experience, involving a Q&A relating to the vaccines and the government mandate in Victoria put together by a very well-known corporation operating Australia-wide suggests it’s also a potential conflict of interest. The Q&A included a number of panelists, two company men, while the rest included Department of Health public servants, and a Professor, who receives funding from the Department of Health. You can guess the advice the staff were being given.

RTWT.


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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 16, 2021 12:55 pm

This:

Jordan Schachtel @ dossier.substack.com @JordanSchachtel : 4:44 AM · Oct 16, 2021

Pfizer currently has 92 lobbyists in Washington, D.C.
Johnson & Johnson has 67
Merck has 53
Gilead has 46

Natural immunity has zero.

Busy little beavers aren’t they. And where there are lobbyists there is nice yummy political donation money.

Friday “Humor”: Vaccine Efficacy ‘Science’ Explained (15 Oct)

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 1:13 pm

That’s a great video, Bruce.

RobK
RobK
October 16, 2021 1:14 pm

All other arguments aside; I am unable to comprehend how, in the early days of the wuflu, New York City stacked infected patients into care homes for the infirm. It was unforgivable and remains a mystery to me. Little wonder confidence is shaken.

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 1:25 pm

@gab might have someone who can help will dm you on twitter

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 1:27 pm

Bother

C.L.
C.L.
October 16, 2021 1:49 pm

Several months ago, the media reported deaths from vaccines (using editorially imposed phrases like “extremely rare” and “vanishingly small”).
They no longer do. It has obviously been banned.

Megan
Megan
October 16, 2021 2:00 pm

Gab, you seem to have a few possibilities arising. If nothing pans out for you, you might consider the spare room at Villa Megs. It comes with significant downsides that include an agnostic but well read lapsed Roman Catholic together with a currently lazy housekeeper who has reverted to childhood escapism with a book 18/24, has lost interest in cooking meals and has stopped putting the ironing board away. And that’s just for starters.
But, it’s there if it comes to that.

Megan
Megan
October 16, 2021 2:02 pm

I see rosie has led me stray into the wrong thread.
Double bother, I should use my patented thread compass to avoid these embarrassing lapses.

C.L.
C.L.
October 16, 2021 2:16 pm

Once again today, no details on the number of vaccinated people who died in Victoria. Also no information on the number of vaccinated in ICU. Instead, this neat dodge:

There are 798 people in hospital with COVID-19, with 163 of those cases in ICU and 106 on a ventilator.

On Friday, the department reported there were 695 people in hospital, 157 cases in intensive care and 101 people on a ventilator.

Mr Weimar said 89.2 per cent of the people in hospital were not fully vaccinated.

C.L.
C.L.
October 16, 2021 2:22 pm

The death of the boy also sounds highly suspicious:

COVID-19 commander Jeroen Weimar said he was “very sad” to confirm that a 15-year-old who had a “number of conditions”, including COVID, was among those who had died.

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 2:36 pm

I’m not going to agonise over the reporting in Victoria.
We can take obfuscation as a given but as there are what? 20k total cases in a population of 5.5 million, I’m not going to much care about how individual cases of ‘died with covid’ are reported or the popular meme ‘vaxxs cause covid’.
The end of lockdowns is coming and we will all get the opportunity to get up close and personal with it.
Steven Waterson’s article is the only one I’ve read with any great sense recently.

C.L.
C.L.
October 16, 2021 2:46 pm

Kind of related: I can’t believe Big Australia maniacs have chosen this time (of all times) to advocate squashing another three of four million people into Sydbourne.

And Scotty and Joshy will do it too, because the Ponzi scheme needs a boost and those wages have to be kept nice and low.

bemused
bemused
October 16, 2021 3:11 pm

Reading the latest on the escalating virus cases in Victoristan, Chairman Dan and his cohorts, methinks, are starting to get worried. Not only are the case numbers growing, they are growing amongst the vaccinated.

The latest ABC report states that almost 90% weren’t ‘fully vaccinated’ and most of the others were the very elderly (and no mention of comorbidities with the others, except for the 15 year old). What will the Chairman do when the miracle vaccination number, or greater, of the population of Victoristan is reached and cases don’t decline as has been so long intimated?

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 16, 2021 3:28 pm

CL, Transport for NSW (what moron came up with that mouthful??) advertises all roles with a spiel about Sydney growing to 12, that’s TWELVE million people by 2050.

Anything less than a 50 storey apartment block next to Lucy Turnbull’s house is inadequate.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2021 3:50 pm

Sydney growing to 12, that’s TWELVE million people by 2050.

Thank goodness I’ll be out of here before 2030.

Hugh
Hugh
October 16, 2021 4:11 pm

TBW, I believe the “Transport for NSW” logo has a revered heritage going all the way back to 1788.

Lee
Lee
October 16, 2021 5:44 pm

Reading the latest on the escalating virus cases in Victoristan, Chairman Dan and his cohorts, methinks, are starting to get worried. Not only are the case numbers growing, they are growing amongst the vaccinated.

Easy; Dictator Dan will just blame it on the dwindling unvaccinated.
It’s never his fault, always someone else’s.
His tactic all along is to divide the population, turn people against each other, and demonize any opposition to his authority.
It just goes to show what an evil authoritarian POS he is, he wants people to dob others in for the least infraction against laws he made up.

rickw
rickw
October 16, 2021 7:03 pm

Reading the latest on the escalating virus cases in Victoristan, Chairman Dan and his cohorts, methinks, are starting to get worried. Not only are the case numbers growing, they are growing amongst the vaccinated.

Around the world #cases has tracked #vaxed, why should Victoria be any different?

Strange how it’s all happening even before “opening up”.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 16, 2021 8:22 pm

The Medical-Industrial Complex is far more powerful than the Military- Industrial Complex.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 16, 2021 8:41 pm

C.L. and DoB
re immigration
Your assuming all these immigrants will increase the existing population.

What if they are just replacements?

srr
srr
October 17, 2021 6:10 am

Megan says:
October 16, 2021 at 2:02 pm
I see rosie has led me stray into the wrong thread.
Double bother, I should use my patented thread compass to avoid these embarrassing lapses.

Don’t worry Megan, so far I’ve only ever noticed one cat being abused for the not infrequent, very human error of posting in the wrong threads, and that person is not you. 😉 … now, speaking of which, this went in the open thread but it’s too important a detail to get flooded out there –

Lawyer Discusses Health Equity Being Pushed In America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHZwexprG98

Premiered Oct 16, 2021
FreedomProject Media

Dr. Duke Pesta sits down with Daniel Lennington, special counsel for Wisconsin Institute For Law & Liberty, to discuss the concept of health equity, which has been birthed from critical race theory. Health equity is the concept that there are different health outcomes for different races and treatment must be denied to some to benefit others.

bemused
bemused
October 17, 2021 9:25 am

Here’s a rather ominous statement about our quarantine centres (Victoria’s at least):

While most travellers will avoid it, the quarantine camp is likely to still have a use for unvaccinated people and those who come from high-risk countries, University of Melbourne epidemiologist Dr Driss Ait Ouakrim said.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/is-the-mickleham-quarantine-facility-a-200-million-white-elephant-20211014-p58zxj.html

Someone has actually voiced it! Has Chairman Dan established Australia’s own Uyghur camp?

Winston Smith
October 17, 2021 9:41 am

RobK;

All other arguments aside; I am unable to comprehend how, in the early days of the wuflu, New York City stacked infected patients into care homes for the infirm. It was unforgivable and remains a mystery to me. Little wonder confidence is shaken.

Occams razor says:
“To kill off all the people taking up beds in the Homes.”

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
October 17, 2021 10:43 am

Having lived through so many chicken little scares through my lifetime I have acquired natural immunity to all the bullshit surrounding this shamdemic.
And I am much happier now that Gladbags has been given the arse.

Kneel
Kneel
October 17, 2021 2:49 pm

“Occams razor says:
“To kill off all the people taking up beds in the Homes.””

Much more likely to be: to free up hospital beds so that DJT doesn’t get any credit for saving lives.

Yes, he really is that disgusting a human being. And when your brother works for CNN and advises you on media stuff, it’s much easier to work the spin – you’ll notice that Cuomo didn’t resign because of the nursing home death sentence he created that killed 15,000 people, but instead because he made “inappropriate” moves on women, at least some of whom weren’t amenable to “hush money”.

Makka
Makka
October 17, 2021 3:03 pm

What if they are just replacements?

They will run over the planned intake until they reach a nett of 2-300k increase. As per pre-covid. It’s a given.

And no admonishing of CL for the low wages comment either JC? Lol, WAP.

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