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An Experiment on a Bird in an Air Pump, Joseph Wright, 1768

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calli
calli
November 17, 2021 8:11 am

The cake baking for gays argument v COVID vaccines passport is bullshit and should be buried. It’s a red herring.

My understanding was that it wasn’t a refusal of service, but an inability to provide the service requested. “Baking a cake” is simplistic. The two men wanted a Wedding Cake. They maliciously chose the Christian bakers to make a point. When told they couldn’t do the product as requested, the legal tangle ensued.

Here’s the thing. Yesterday I said that Sketchers are refusing service for the unvaxxed. Pretty bald, no excuses.

To make that refusal equal in kind to the baker case, it would go something like this:

I’m going to be mother of the bride but I want something comfortable for my feet. Sketchers shoes are great, but they don’t match my outfit. I know! I’ll require Sketchers to make up a pair of shoes that match my outfit, maybe have them cover the shoes with some nice satin and perhaps some trim.

What!? You won’t do that? Reeeeeeeeee! Discrimination! Where’s my lawyer?

But no, they just refuse to serve the unvaxxed.

Cassie of Sydney
November 17, 2021 8:14 am

“Farmer Gezsays:
November 17, 2021 at 8:01 am
TaliDans new attack dog, Andy Meddick, accused Avi Yemini in parliament last night of being a “known neo-nazi reporter”
Jewish neo-Nazis, that’s new.”

I thought our upper house here in NSW was a joke, with the sole exception of Mark Latham, but then I look at the freak show which is the upper house in Victoria….Fiona Patten, Andy Meddick and Samantha Ratnam.

Crossie
Crossie
November 17, 2021 8:14 am

Ah no radar. Bastards took it out of this model and I hadn’t read ze bulletins. It’s surprising how quick you adapt to new tech and when it ain’t there you have to smarten up…quickly.

Next think you know we will have to look over our shoulders before changing lane. ? (imagine a smiley face here if the one I put in doesn’t show)

Aaron
Aaron
November 17, 2021 8:16 am
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 17, 2021 8:21 am

How’s XiPoohbear going to handle the Aussie raw prawn? Bon.

Aaron
Aaron
November 17, 2021 8:24 am

Just to rub it into these “Experts” and their fucking models.

Brrr.

calli
calli
November 17, 2021 8:24 am

Fiona Patten, Andy Meddick and Samantha Ratnam.

Reminds me of the doggerel from the Wars of the Roses:

The Cat, the Rat and Lovell, our Dog,
Rulen all Engalund under a Hog.

Mater
November 17, 2021 8:26 am

Fiona Patten, Andy Meddick and Samantha Ratnam.

The Three Numpties.

Aaron
Aaron
November 17, 2021 8:28 am

Oh dear.

We have vays of locking you up.

Rorschach
Rorschach
November 17, 2021 8:32 am

Fiona Patten, Andy Meddick and Samantha Ratnam.
The Three Numpties.

Jar Jar Binks x3

calli
calli
November 17, 2021 8:32 am

He only refused to bake them a custom wedding cake.

Yes.

I guess the obvious question would be – did the baker do custom wedding cakes for other customers?

If he did, then my Sketchers argument topples over and JC’s assertion remains.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 17, 2021 8:41 am

On that note did anyone see the restoration of a lighthouse on an island 10 miles off the coast of Portland Maine. When the job was closed in the owner made lunch, lobster $4 a lb. It was a few years ago but really. Why does everything cost so much in Australia? Paying lazy fucknuckles to sit around doing nothing and import medieval fucknuckles to wipe their bums cause their too lazy to. Then the imports do nothing. Rinse and repeat.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 17, 2021 8:42 am

Is that supposed to be Biden in Rowe’s cartoon? He normally draws him wearing sunnies. When I saw the picture I thought it might have been meant to be Trumble, except that makes even less sense.

Does any other cartoonist draw Biden with the degree of suave, mental clarity, and of being not only a few steps ahead of everyone he knows but that he knows it, and so do they?

Do the people who read the AFR not have access to TV and the internet?

Bar Beach Swimmer
November 17, 2021 8:44 am

Not quite, part of s49 (IIRC) allows for an exemption on public ‘elf grounds

So, that fits nicely for the govt. Not so much for the people.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 17, 2021 8:53 am

Not quite, part of s49 (IIRC) allows for an exemption on public ‘elf grounds

Always look down in the bowels of any Act, there are always “except for…” clauses. I spent the better part of a 70 minute lesson teaching this concept, and ‘no Parliament may bind another’s to a year Civics class. Eg they were using the Qld Human Rights Act to bolster their claims that Bikie consorting laws were invalid, because they did not read the entire act which had an except for laura border, which was vague and discussion followed on whether the bill was even worth the paper it was printed on.

132andBush
132andBush
November 17, 2021 8:54 am

Yes.

I guess the obvious question would be – did the baker do custom wedding cakes for other customers?

If he did, then my Sketchers argument topples over and JC’s assertion remains.

We can’t have any level discussion about it till the state coercion is removed from one side.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 17, 2021 8:56 am

Rather liked the Park Distance Control on a previous car.
You could pretend you were Maverick trying to get good tone.
The current one uses old school audio based parking technology.

Bar Beach Swimmer
November 17, 2021 9:02 am

Indolent says:
November 17, 2021 at 8:09 am

‘Tis strange to my Anglo-Saxon eye, Indolent, ‘tis French.

I looked up high, I looked down low,
Each part I looked at would not flow,
Not words or letters have I seen,
At least not ones that I could glean.

(Dave, your about, ‘tis mine). (Emoji high fiving, and with grin)

Bar Beach Swimmer
November 17, 2021 9:11 am

+1 Dover.

The wedding cake clients did get in the door to discuss their order with the baker but were refused because of the singularity of the cake’s design which was not a usual product of the bakery and were antithetical to the religious beliefs and conscience of the baker.

The unvaccinated are being denied by the state – a third party – to enter the premises on grounds unrelated to the goods/services on offer and despite their actual health.

Next stop…

Bar Beach Swimmer
November 17, 2021 9:14 am

Diogenes, hope all is going well in your (new) neck of the woods!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 17, 2021 9:14 am

Not quite, part of s49 (IIRC) allows for an exemption on public ‘elf grounds

Hence the dire emergency ambulance siren political screeching.

Perrottet Government moves to extend COVID-19 emergency powers until 2023 (16 Nov)

Given the disaster the “vaccines” are turning out to be they just might have an actual emergency on their hands: one they themselves caused. Of course we all know who they will blame.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 9:15 am
incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 9:17 am

Final word. I prefer that my cake has not been rogered in the back room.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 17, 2021 9:20 am

The awfulness of the Great Reformer portrayed as a fascist dictator by fascists seems to be the crux of reporting by the ABC and MSM.
These fascists must be very mixed up people.

Well…. maybe they are displaying him in an approving fashion then… No?

JC
JC
November 17, 2021 9:29 am

dover0beach says:
November 17, 2021 at 8:29 am

In the bakery case, those suing the baker were actually longstanding customers known to be gay by the baker. He only refused to bake them a custom wedding cake. So you have a major difference with a blanket ban on serving the unvaxxed. And the principle in each situation is different, in the bakery case it’s conscience, in the unvaxx case it’s, putatively, safety. There is no pointed ignoring the grounds in each case by simply hanging everything on a unconditional right of refusal which nowhere exists.

Actually we have no major difference.
1. If the baker knew the two pillow biters it makes no difference as it’s not even incidental.
2. And the comparison between conscience and safety is spurious too.

3. It’s refusal of service. That’s all we need to know.

You either support a philosophical position warts and all or you end you like a colander.

This is why I’m suggesting some of the commenters (not you) here really belong with the greens. The hatred shown for commercial enterprise by some suggests almost no space between some of the idiots here and Adam Bandt.

JC
JC
November 17, 2021 9:33 am

Bespoke

Don’t get me wrong. I support the right to refuse service for whatever fucking reason. For instance, Driller said years ago he doesn’t want to serve wogs at his bar. That’s totally fine with my philosophical underpinnings. It’s your property and you should be able to serve whomever the fuck you want.

JC
JC
November 17, 2021 9:33 am

I gotta . Later

JC
JC
November 17, 2021 9:36 am

Before I take off .Just to remind the aviator and all round entrepreneur, Hallward Hughes that I posed a bet to him last night over his cancer prediction. he may have gone to bed and didn’t see it. We escrow. 🙂

Aaron
Aaron
November 17, 2021 9:37 am

It may be that the rush is on not prevent cases, but to eliminate a healthy control group.

Look at what is going down in US and Europe

This is a train wreck.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 17, 2021 9:38 am

JC did you write the hit piece on Karl Denninger yourself or just reproduce it without attribution?

What was that term Terry McCrann used the other day? ah, yes, “Wall Street vermin”.

Aaron
Aaron
November 17, 2021 9:41 am
Indolent
Indolent
November 17, 2021 9:44 am

How Fanatics Took Over the World

This is from the Brownstone Institute and has a certain level of optimism. It also identifies George Bush as insisting on a whole-of-society plan in 2005. Obviously, this relates to the U.S. and similar things must have been happening elsewhere. There is a strong stench of Lysenkoism.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 9:50 am

Which reminds me has our Dear Leader announced today’s tractor production figures?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 9:52 am

Anyone seen my missing comma?

Woolfe
Woolfe
November 17, 2021 10:00 am

If we had a democratic most votes wins system would those cross benchers be there?

P
P
November 17, 2021 10:02 am

Today is the Memorial of Saint Elizabeth of Hungary – Patron of Bakers.

Tom
Tom
November 17, 2021 10:04 am

Breaking: Jamie Kah wins her Victorian Supreme Court appeal against her two-month ban for misleading the kangaroo court racing tribunal, which means she is free to resume riding on November 25 after serving her original three-month ban.

Bar Beach Swimmer
November 17, 2021 10:05 am

The unvaccinated are being denied by the state – a third party – to enter the premises on grounds unrelated to the goods/services on offer and despite their actual health

And the business may want to serve the unvaccinated – at the moment no-one knows because the state won’t allow the preliminaries of the transaction – that is, the customer entering the premises to discuss their purchase – to take place. So the transaction is being denied to both sides, and whether or not both parties want to make a transaction, by the interference of the state.

Delta A
Delta A
November 17, 2021 10:09 am

incoherent ramblersays:
November 17, 2021 at 9:52 am
Anyone seen my missing comma?

I reckon ZK2A snitched it. He’s always chucking commas around willy nilly.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 17, 2021 10:10 am

The Three Numpties.

They are still the elected representatives of the Victorian people, as is the muppet elected in Western Australia, on a platform of “Daylight saving.” “Daylight saving has been trialed in Western Australia three times, and rejected at referendum four times, in forty years…

Delta A
Delta A
November 17, 2021 10:12 am

Today is the Memorial of Saint Elizabeth of Hungary – Patron of Bakers.

Thank you, P.

You just reminded me that stir-up Sunday is this weekend. Time to go shopping for fruits, nuts and every good thing.

JC
JC
November 17, 2021 10:13 am

Hallward

Oh, did I leave out the attribution. I would have thought that a massive brainiac would have seen it was in quotes.

Denninger is a massive loser and has been since 2008. Trust you to find him informative.
Vermin now.. coming form Queensland whitewash? Wow!

Hughes, formulate the cancer bet and I want to see it this afternoon. Stop fucking around. The bet!

Zipster
November 17, 2021 10:15 am

When the job was closed in the owner made lunch, lobster $4 a lb. It was a few years ago but really. Why does everything cost so much in Australia?

gov controls production

Indolent
Indolent
November 17, 2021 10:16 am

Before I take off .Just to remind the aviator and all round entrepreneur, Hallward Hughes that I posed a bet to him last night over his cancer prediction. he may have gone to bed and didn’t see it. We escrow.

This is simplistic. The issue is not just cancer. If the immune system is impaired, any and all opportunistic illness or underlying issue can take hold.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 17, 2021 10:16 am

Jesus called for a Jubilee Year across the board because debts were being rolled over by agreement and the entire country was swimming in Debt with a few at the top living like Potentates.
Why do you think he threw the moneychangers and dove sellers out of the Temple?

Grigory, you are anti-Scriptural.

Jesus drove the money-changers and merchants out of the Temple in Jerusalem because they were not meant to be there. The Outer Courts of the Temple were for the people to approach an offer up their prayers and sacrifices to God through the priests operating on their behalf. It was never intended to be where they purchased the guilt, sin, atonement or fellowship offerings (blood, grain or wine) they wished to make.

Can you find me a single Old Testament reference to the old Tabernacle and subsequent Temples in thr Law of Moses, that allowed for the purchase and exchange of currencies in a holy place?

Jesus Christ (God with skin on) coming to Earth to save Mankind and reconciling His people to Him through taking on their sins and being an eternal sacrifice in their place, never had anything to do with reconciling mere physical debts.

The concept of Jubilee, a symbol to the Israelites of God’s loving intent to set free all people who turn to Him, from the consequences of their rebellion and sin against Him.

Leviticus 25:8-10 NLT
“In addition, you must count off seven Sabbath years, seven sets of seven years, adding up to forty-nine years in all. [9] Then on the Day of Atonement in the fiftieth year, blow the ram’s horn loud and long throughout the land. [10] Set this year apart as holy, a time to proclaim freedom throughout the land for all who live there. It will be a jubilee year for you, when each of you may return to the land that belonged to your ancestors and return to your own clan.

If Jesus came only to enforce the forgiveness of mere physical debts, then His entire life and actions and words on Earth mean nothing and make no sense.

If you can understand that Jesus was the fulfillment of the Law of Moses [Romans 10:4 NLT
For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God.
], then everything He did on Earth makes sense.

Cassie of Sydney
November 17, 2021 10:16 am

Dear Josh Frydenberg,

I note that the other day, after the protest in Melbourne last Saturday, you sent out the following tweet…

“I don’t agree with Daniel Andrews Pandemic Bill. It’s overreach & has rightly been condemned. But placards depicting the Premier in Nazi uniform is offensive & wrong.

It shows a lack of understanding of history. It fuels hatred. It’s dangerous & has no place in public debate. pic.twitter.com/9QN5rj5hym

— Josh Frydenberg (@JoshFrydenberg) November 14, 2021”

Overnight, Victorian upper house member Andy Meddick has smeared a fellow Jew, Avi Yemeni, as a “known neo-nazi reporter”.

In the interests of objectivity, I look forward to a similar tweet by you (unless your opprobrium is selective and I hope it isn’t)…..

“I don’t agree with Daniel Andrews Pandemic Bill. It’s overreach & has rightly been condemned. But Andy Meddick’s description of Avi Yemeni as a “known neo-Nazi reporter” is both offensive & wrong.

Such descriptions shows a lack of understanding of history. It fuels hatred. It’s dangerous & has no place in public debate.”

Thank you

Cassie (a fellow Jew)

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 17, 2021 10:19 am

Bruce have you put in a bid for Wangi power station? I keep getting sent stuff about it. Interest around $30 mil. Maybe a few Cats could get together? We could start a commune for the vax-free. You could be CAO, Chief Avian Officer. Its a start.

P
P
November 17, 2021 10:28 am

It is thought that the name Stir Up Sunday originated in the Anglican church, when parishioners took inspiration from the Book of Common Prayer. The collect for the last Sunday before advent reads, “Stir up, we beseech thee, O Lord, the wills of thy faithful people”, but was subsequently coined to represent the act of stirring up a good old Christmas pud.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 17, 2021 10:32 am

No one would touch a coal fired power station under the NEM.

That’s the whole idea.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 17, 2021 10:34 am

Bruce have you put in a bid for Wangi power station? I keep getting sent stuff about it. Interest around $30 mil.

Overpriced. In 2014 AGL bought Liddell off of the NSW Government for zero dollars. I wouldn’t want to spend more than one dollar for Wangi, even given local real estate price rises in the Hunter.

Guess who was in government at the time.

Aaron
Aaron
November 17, 2021 10:37 am

I had to double check.

No. Not a Monty Python sketch.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 17, 2021 10:40 am

Just a reminder.

The group most under control by the states/government, prisoners, remain free to choose to be vaccinated or not.

People working for a living do not.
https://www.wa.gov.au/government/announcements/mandatory-covid-19-vaccines-all-people-entering-correctional-facilities
From 1 December 2021, all persons requiring entry to correctional facilities (unless exempt) will need to be at least partially vaccinated (first dose) against COVID-19 and
From 1 January 2022, all persons requiring entry to correctional facilities (unless exempt) will need to be fully vaccinated against
COVID-19.
Anyone requiring entry to correctional facilities will need to provide evidence of their vaccination status from 1 December 2021. Refer to Services Australia for the best way to access proof of your COVID-19 vaccination.

This Direction applies to any persons who enter a correctional facility in any capacity unless exemptions apply.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 17, 2021 10:44 am

I had to double check.

No. Not a Monty Python sketch.

Not enough tigers. 🙂

Eddystone
Eddystone
November 17, 2021 10:46 am

“The vaccine worked because it saved me in hospital because I caught COVID there, and if I didn’t have the vaccine they said I would have most probably got real sick.”

He was in hospital because the vaccine caused a clot that led to his leg being amputated.

If he didn’t have the vaccine, he wouldn’t have been in hospital to catch covid.

I guess losing a leg was just a flesh wound.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 17, 2021 10:47 am

U.S. Military Switches To Swords And Bows To Meet Carbon Neutral Goals

Wooden swords, I trust.
Before anyone scoffs, remember this: Musashi killed Kojiro Sasaki with a bokken.

JC
JC
November 17, 2021 10:48 am

Indolent

According to Hallward Hughes , the vaxes also cause penis shrivelling. It’s a new side effect he found at Karl Denninger’s site, market trixter. Ask him.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 17, 2021 10:49 am

bokken

Hopefully named for the sound they made, right? 🙂

*Bok!*

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 17, 2021 10:51 am

the vaxes also cause penis shrivelling

No wonder you’re so upset! 😀

Roger
Roger
November 17, 2021 10:51 am

Overnight, Victorian upper house member Andy Meddick has smeared a fellow Jew, Avi Yemeni, as a “known neo-nazi reporter”.

Using parliamentary privilege to slander a citizen.

Noteworthy that a proponent of animal rights has little understanding of human rights.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 17, 2021 10:53 am

Hopefully named for the sound they made, right?

Carpe will know if the Nipponese do onomatopoeia.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 17, 2021 10:53 am

When could the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict be announced?

By Anthony Derosa
Dow Jones
4:47AM November 17, 2021

Kyle Rittenhouse, now 18 years old, faces charges of intentional, reckless and attempted homicide, and reckless endangerment. The case concerns the night of Aug. 25, 2020: Mr. Rittenhouse shot and killed two men and wounded another as he patrolled the city with a rifle and a small medical kit amid unrest after the police shooting of Jacob Blake.

Judge Bruce Schroeder dismissed the misdemeanor charge of possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 17 years old. The defense had argued a person of that age could carry such a weapon under Wisconsin law as long as it wasn’t a short-barreled rifle. After the prosecution conceded that the AR-15-style rifle didn’t have a short barrel, Judge Schroeder dropped the charge. The judge also agreed to allow prosecutors to offer jurors a number of less serious charges to consider if they can’t agree on the more serious charges.

When could the verdict be announced?

A verdict could be announced as soon as Tuesday (Wednesday Australia time). The jury began deliberations this morning.

When does the court open today?

The court opened at 9am CST local time (1am AEST) in Kenosha, Wis.

‘This is a politically motivated case’: Jury retires to consider verdict in Kyle Rittenhouse trial
Kyle Rittenhouse’s defense attorney has claimed his client is a victim of a “politically motivated” case by the prosecution as the jury retires to consider their verdict in the highly contentious trial.

What are the charges the jury is deliberating on?

Mr. Rittenhouse faces charges of intentional, reckless and attempted homicide, and reckless endangerment. He has pleaded not guilty, and his attorneys have argued he acted in self-defense.

What are the possible verdict outcomes for Mr. Rittenhouse?

— COUNT 1: Guilty or not guilty of reckless homicide of the first degree, relating to Joseph Rosenbaum, who was the first person Mr. Rittenhouse shot.

— COUNT 2: Guilty or not guilty of reckless endangerment of the first degree, relating to Richie McGinniss of the Daily Caller.

— COUNT 3: Guilty or not guilty of reckless endangerment of the first degree, relating to an unknown person who was referred to during the trial as “Jumpkick Guy.”

— COUNT 4: Guilty or not guilty of intentional homicide of the first degree, the most serious charge, relating to Anthony Huber, who hit Mr. Rittenhouse with a skateboard. If the jury can’t agree on count four, they can go to the lesser included charges of intentional homicide of the second degree or reckless homicide of the first degree.

— COUNT 5: Guilty or not guilty of attempted intentional homicide of the first degree, relating to Gaige Grosskreutz, the third and last person that Mr. Rittenhouse shot. If the jury can’t agree on count five, they can go to the lesser included charge of attempted intentional homicide of the second degree or reckless endangerment of the first degree.

How were the jury members selected?

Jurors were randomly selected using a raffle drum with slips of paper containing the numbers of each of the 18 jurors who heard the two-week trial. Mr. Rittenhouse pulled six numbers from that drum which were 11, 58, 14, 45, 9 and 52. Those numbers indicated the numbers of the jurors who were to be dismissed and were read out loud before the court. The remaining jurors were selected to decide the case beginning on Tuesday.

What happens if the jury can’t agree?

Jury verdicts in criminal cases generally require all members of the jury to agree. If jurors can’t reach an agreement, a judge can declare a mistrial, after which the prosecution would have to decide whether to retry Mr. Rittenhouse. Judges typically try to avoid a hung jury and may urge a jury to continue deliberating until a verdict is reached.

How is Kenosha preparing for the verdict?

Officials in Kenosha are preparing for the possibility of unrest after the verdict. On Friday, Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers approved the deployment of 500 National Guard troops. They will be ready to be deployed into Kenosha if called upon by local authorities to back up hundreds of officers from volunteering local law-enforcement agencies providing public safety after the verdict, according to a release from the Wisconsin National Guard. The White House is in touch with state leaders about preparations for the verdict and is hopeful any protests will be peaceful, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Monday.

The Wall Street Journal

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 10:53 am

the vaxes also cause penis shrivelling

Not worried by this.
Some of us can afford a bit of contraction

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 17, 2021 10:53 am

Rex Angersays:
November 17, 2021 at 10:51 am
the vaxes also cause penis shrivelling

I haven’t had the vax.

Baba
Baba
November 17, 2021 10:56 am

All inbound travellers to be required to present a HPV/cervical cancer clearance certificate at the port of entry?

We can show the world!

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 17, 2021 10:57 am
incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 10:57 am

the vaxes also cause penis shrivelling

becoz it makes your spouse look like Palacechook.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 17, 2021 10:59 am

amputation of a leg is not really serious.

I’m sure the lovely Delta has a differing view on this. She’ll be head over heals at the news, so to speak.

miltonf
miltonf
November 17, 2021 11:01 am

This is from the Brownstone Institute and has a certain level of optimism. It also identifies George Bush as insisting on a whole-of-society plan in 2005. Obviously, this relates to the U.S. and similar things must have been happening elsewhere. There is a strong stench of Lysenkoism.

Very interesting- back to the Bush filth era. How much do our current and former pollimuppetts here in Australia know about this I wonder.

cohenite
November 17, 2021 11:05 am

Best toon today:

comment image

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 17, 2021 11:08 am

[Can everyone just tone it a little down please?]
I didn’t say the clot shot CAUSES cancer. By inhibiting your immune system the cancers which naturally occur in the human body quite often, probably only a few cells at a time , may not be eliminated in time.
Now look at the Dr Ryan Cole video, or even, spend some time at http://www.market-ticker.org and find out what Denninger ACTUALLY says, which you don’t appear to have done.
You are arguing from a position of ignorance as usual and degrading the signal to noise ratio of the blog.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 17, 2021 11:09 am

Noteworthy that a proponent of animal rights has little understanding of human rights.

Keep in mind that Mr Merrick of the Animal Justice Party is just peachy with the idea of massacring billions of bats and birds using wind turbines.

Yet another lefty totalitarian hypocrite.

miltonf
miltonf
November 17, 2021 11:10 am

The Windsors make trailer trash look respectable.
Prince Harry issued a 15-point list of demands Tuesday to drive leaders and the tech industry in the fight against fake news.

miltonf
miltonf
November 17, 2021 11:11 am

And even her maj has blown herself up. Fuck off saxe coburg tampons.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 17, 2021 11:12 am

I haven’t had the vax

Avoid where you can- After my Pfirst Pforced Pfizering (Let’s go Mark!), my Pfennig-whistle spontaneously developed so many Pferforations, I needed to take up Clarinet lessons in order to learn how to hold it…

I was deeply Pferturbed.

cohenite
November 17, 2021 11:12 am

Bongino analyses all the Rittenhouse prosecution lies and frankly illegal tactics. But Bongino is probably smarter then the average juror who no doubt will be impressed with the prosecution’s claim that only a coward and an intending murderer would take a gun and use it against people who were only attacking him with fists, rocks and skate-boards. Ignoring that at least one of Rittenhouse attackers were armed, illegally, Rittenhouse was legally armed, the prosecution summation was clever in a really lying, corrupt way because it pushed this idea that Rittenhouse was a coward and bully, reversing the facts. This plus the intense media coverage based on racism (FFS, everyone was white!) I think will sway the jury. Plus the closing by the defence was weak as Legal Insurrection explains, although I don’t agree that the defence lawyer being angry was necessarily a bad thing.

Bongino

Legal Insurrection

Zipster
November 17, 2021 11:13 am

This is beyond stupid.

we are being swamped by morons

calli
calli
November 17, 2021 11:14 am

Rittenhouse is a political prisoner and this is a show trial.

Delta A
Delta A
November 17, 2021 11:14 am

amputation of a leg is not really serious.

I’m sure the lovely Delta has a differing view on this. She’ll be head over heals at the news, so to speak.

He can cheerily look forward to months in a cast, then the marvelous shrinker, then a year of intense gym before being fitted and trained for use of a prosthetic. If he’s very lucky, he won’t suffer excruciating phantom that makes one cry out loud, and everyone who sees him will be polite and understanding of his trauma.

PS: I like the ‘head over heels’ bit. Apt, but funny.

PPS: I especially liked the ‘lovely Delta bit.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 17, 2021 11:15 am

Keep in mind that Mr Merrick of the Animal Justice Party is just peachy with the idea of massacring billions of bats and birds using wind turbines.

I watched a vid the other day about bladeless wind turbines (yes they are a thing) by some spruiker of “renewable” energy. He had to admit that wind turbines killed lots of birds but made the excuse that far more were killed by cats every year, totally ignoring the types of birds involved. In Australia I doubt that very many large raptors are killed by cats and these are the birds most vulnerable to the eco crucifixes.
Typical green scumbag.

twostix
twostix
November 17, 2021 11:18 am

“The vaccine worked because it saved me in hospital because I caught COVID there, and if I didn’t have the vaccine they said I would have most probably got real sick.”

This is Jonestown.

P
P
November 17, 2021 11:19 am

lovely Delta‘ bit

Fact.

Roger
Roger
November 17, 2021 11:19 am

No idea what this Warren Brown cartoon is about.

The search for William Tyrell’s remains, Tom.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 17, 2021 11:19 am

Rittenhouse is a political prisoner and this is a show trial.

Rittenhouse is being thrown to the wolves, in the same way that Derek Chauvin was, to appease the BLM movement.

miltonf
miltonf
November 17, 2021 11:21 am

They like going after kids too. Consider also Nick Sandmann.

cohenite
November 17, 2021 11:21 am

In Australia I doubt that very many large raptors are killed by cats and these are the birds most vulnerable to the eco crucifixes.
Typical green scumbag.

Good point.

Delta A
Delta A
November 17, 2021 11:22 am

Thanks, P. (Blush.)

miltonf
miltonf
November 17, 2021 11:22 am

So much for a virtuous republic and the pursuit of happiness.

calli
calli
November 17, 2021 11:23 am

They aren’t worried about birds and bats. Or koalas or wombats or frilled neck lizards.

The supposed caring for animals is simply a means to an end. But the propaganda does attract useful idiots who do care about animal welfare and they provide cover quite righteously and innocently.

Greens are the worst type of cult. Almost impossible to leave because the outside is coated in a layer of something beautiful and worthwhile – the glory of creation.

The inside is rotten to the core.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 17, 2021 11:24 am

He had to admit that wind turbines killed lots of birds but made the excuse that far more were killed by cats every year

Release the squirrels!

Roger
Roger
November 17, 2021 11:29 am

So much for a virtuous republic and the pursuit of happiness.

History suggests that empires have a 250 year life (John Bagot Glubb did the calculations) and the rot starts from the head & not the extremities.

Not an iron law, but a rule of thumb, as it were.

The US turns 250 in 2026.

The question then becomes the nature of the decline – a bang or a whimper?

P
P
November 17, 2021 11:29 am
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 17, 2021 11:29 am

Carpe will know if the Nipponese do onomatopoeia.

They do. In a big way. More than us.

Try here, but scroll down to ‘Japanese Onomatopoeia for Animal Sound Effects (Giseigo)’ to get to the lists.

When I was there I used sometimes to take a tram (Hankai-sen) commonly known as the ‘Chin Chin Densha’ or the ‘Chin Chin’ train. Apparently the first part is a rendering of the sound of the metal wheels rubbing against the metal rails as they turn.

I hope this is correct, because the other meaning for ‘Chin Chin’ would require more mental gymnastics than understanding onomatopoeia does.

Winston Smith
November 17, 2021 11:31 am

Diogenes:

Always look down in the bowels of any Act, there are always “except for…” clauses.

And coincidently, those clauses allow the government to do whatever it wants, while we have no bloody recourse.
We need to tear this entire edifice down, and only when the government is scared witless of us can it be trusted to govern.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 17, 2021 11:33 am

The US turns 250 in 2026.

We turn 250 on 26th January 2038, just in time for net zero.

Roger
Roger
November 17, 2021 11:33 am

Given that we’ve tied our national security to the US for the foreseeable future we should hope and pray for a drawn out, incremental and predictable decline, esp. in the western Pacific.

We’d also be daft not to develop our own nuclear deterrent as a contingency.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 17, 2021 11:34 am

Indolentsays:
November 17, 2021 at 8:00 am
Alex Berenson

More people died in the key clinical trial for Pfizer’s Covid vaccine than the company publicly reported

Cheating from the very beginning but, then, of course we always knew that.

If this is true then wouldn’t every contract with Pfizer be vitiated on that perfidy? And shouldn’t the veterinarian in charge of Pfizer be cattle-prodded into a gaol cell for crimes against humanity?

Roger
Roger
November 17, 2021 11:35 am

We turn 250 on 26th January 2038, just in time for net zero.

Yes, but we’ve never been an empire.

Glubb’s thesis was that empires always over-reach due to hubris in the leadership class.

We’ve seen plenty of that from the US in recent decades and the bill for it is coming due.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 17, 2021 11:38 am

And Raggedy Anne Psaki? She must have thought the job was going to be so easy after seeing Kayleigh McEnany handle it so deftly. I saw her yesterday being asked how Biden felt about having described Rittenhouse as a White Supremacist. She said she was not going to comment on an ongoing trial.

whatever she stuttered would have been punctuated with many Errrr, Errrr, Errs, and umh, umh, errr, umhs – it’s quite cringe-worthy trying to lie and stumbling so badly because the lies are so ubiquitous and obvious

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 17, 2021 11:39 am

When I was there I used sometimes to take a tram (Hankai-sen) commonly known as the ‘Chin Chin Densha’ or the ‘Chin Chin’ train. Apparently the first part is a rendering of the sound of the metal wheels rubbing against the metal rails as they turn.

They’re not far off. Flange squeal (particularly on curves as sharp as trams take) is a very distinct, metallic Shiiiiing noise. Made by every wheelset as the outer wheels’ flanges are pressed by centripetal force and intertia against the side of rail as the vehicle negotiates the turn.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 17, 2021 11:39 am

Today is the Memorial of Saint Elizabeth of Hungary – Patron of Bakers.

And the supposed inspiration for this great chorus

https://youtu.be/REPvgHbQd7g

Bar Beach Swimmer
November 17, 2021 11:48 am

“The vaccine worked because it saved me in hospital because I caught COVID there, and if I didn’t have the vaccine they said I would have most probably got real sick.”

At any time did the “they” in that sentence define what “real sick” meant in the context of that bloke’s actual health prior the jab of give him the odds for “most probably?”

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 17, 2021 11:51 am

It may be that the rush is on not prevent cases, but to eliminate a healthy control group.

Yep that’s their plan — not my plan though

custard
custard
November 17, 2021 11:55 am

I would be grateful if informed Cats could comment on what I understand are called prions in the thread of the ChinaVirus.

I was talking to a pharmacist yesterday (who has lost her job at a major regional hospital for refusing to take the waxx) and I asked about the Novavax but she claims that the prions are the nasty element that a vaccination for the ChinaVirus must include to be effective.

She sent me this link which I have yet to watch in its entirety.

https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitchute.com%2Fvideo%2FvqasVqB0r5aD%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cjudith.cipriani%40pharmacyhelp.com.au%7Cce26036ec367417aed5608d9a3bf4f01%7C5b7ffd4c02bc439db4618c481c689e28%7C0%7C0%7C637720865390729455%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=t2fBGG0YZB9AJGr7%2B0M7kro8EYpt9299QcNlSr8kYNk%3D&reserved=0

Could we see zombies walking around in a few years?

BTW: she claims 40 nurses have quit that hospital alone

Mater
November 17, 2021 11:55 am

It may be that the rush is on not prevent cases, but to eliminate a healthy control group.

Conspiratorial, yes, but it’s the only motivation that satisfactorily explains what is happening, and how they are behaving.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 17, 2021 11:55 am

Im sure twatter will not abuse this new power at all, and will be scrupulously going back and labelling all the vaccine loons & health authorities changes to ‘da scienceism’ as well.

Josh Butler
(@JoshButler)
Twitter is releasing new misinformation labels for tweets, including big red “misleading” warnings on content related to COVID, vaccines, politics and altered videos https://t.co/oXtcD4Bcym

November 17, 2021

The real vicim in Sicktoria..

Poor dan.
Speaking of the threats made again the Victorian premier and his family, here is what Daniel Andrews wive, Catherine Andrews, had to say about it last night:

Catherine Andrews
(@CathLAndrews)
We have received so many beautiful messages today from all over. Thank you. We are reminded that the light shines in the darkness and the darkness will not overcome it. As ever #IStandWithDan #GoHigh

November 16, 2021


Andrews ‘won’t be deterred’ by protester’s threats
Victorian premier Daniel Andrews has been asked about the perceived threats levelled against him by protesters this week, including the display of prop gallows on the steps of the Parliament House:

What I’d say is this there are some people who are threatening me, threatening my family. They are essentially attacking the safety of my family.

Let me be really clear and the message is, I will not be deterred from the work I’m doing to keep every family safe. That’s the work that I’ve been given to do. That’s the job that we have to do.

So there are some out there who are making threats against me and Catherine and the kids. That’s not my focus. My focus is keeping every single Victorian family safe, and I wouldn’t want that the appalling, the disgusting, and the potentially criminal behaviour of a small number of people to detract away from the amazing job that so many Victorians have done.

It is so unfair for a small, ugly mob to be taking attention away from the more than 90% of Victorians who have had a first dose and will soon have had a second dose. That’s where our focus should be. I’m proud of those Victorians and I’m deeply grateful to those Victorians.

Debate is fine. This disagreement is fine, that is a part of our system. What we have seen in recent days and weeks is not fine. It is awful. But it does not speak to the values the views and conduct of the vast vast majority of Victorians.

Someone should have pushed him down the steps.
Debate is fine. This disagreement is fine

ORLY?
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/police-brutally-assault-anti-lockdown-protester/

Barry
Barry
November 17, 2021 11:58 am

Re Rittenhouse verdict, from what I’ve seen on Poso’s twitter feed, the jury is 10-2 to acquit. The last two are worried about being doxed and targeted if they vote to acquit.

He’ll be convicted on postal votes.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 17, 2021 12:00 pm

PS: I like the ‘head over heels’ bit. Apt, but funny.

It was meant both ways. The way you handled yourself during your ordeal was inspiring, it put my own problems in perspective and you did it whilst standing on one leg. You took us with you and it didn’t seem like sympathy required but an understanding, a statement of I’m doing this so get out of my way. It certainly seems to have worked though no doubt there are times pain doesn’t stop.

Lysander
Lysander
November 17, 2021 12:03 pm

WA set to have an all-Labor Upper House forever as Bill to make upper House MPs Statewide MPs (instead of regionally based) passes WA Parliament:

https://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au/Pages/McGowan/2021/11/Western-Australia-enters-era-of-electoral-equality.aspx

“McClown says regions shouldn’t have more value in vote because of less population.” So, Marky, are we proposing to give back, say, 6 Senate seats?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 17, 2021 12:03 pm

Most of United Australia party’s videos pulled from YouTube for allegedly violating advertising policy

The uniparties busy “informing” google of the ads.

Three out of every four video ads the United Australia party has posted on YouTube since late September have been pulled by Google for allegedly violating the tech giant’s advertising policies, according to Google’s transparency report.
..
Labor has previously raised concerns that the UAP was using its platform to undermine confidence in Australia’s response to the Covid-19 pandemic, citing videos in which Kelly questioned the safety of Covid vaccines or promoted the drug ivermectin.

In October Labor’s shadow assistant minister for communications, Tim Watts, wrote to Google asking why the UAP was allowed to remain on YouTube given that some videos had already been removed for allegedly violating its policy. In parliament in October, Watts noted Kelly himself had said he had received one strike, and questioned why the UAP was still allowed on the platform.

Watts questioned how many more times the UAP and Kelly would need to violate Google’s policies before being “kicked off for good”.

“Online misinformation has consequences,” he told Guardian Australia. “We’re currently seeing it play out in the extremism* and violent rhetoric** some are using in the recent protests at Victorian Parliament.”

* The assistant minister for communications is a tosspot who thinks protesting a 2 year state of emergency for the Peking pox is “extremist’.
** Mummy the big boy said I was a skidmark on the undies of democracy….

Delta A
Delta A
November 17, 2021 12:08 pm

Thank you, GreyRanga.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 17, 2021 12:08 pm

SCIENCE!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/nov/16/trans-women-should-not-have-to-reduce-testosterone-say-new-ioc-guidelines
Transgender women should no longer be required to reduce their testosterone levels to compete in the women’s sport category, new International Olympic Committee guidelines have suggested.

The new IOC framework, which replaces its 2015 guidelines, also concludes there should be no presumption that trans women have an automatic advantage over natal women – a controversial view that reverses the IOC’s previous position.

Old and busted: Women can do anything
New hotness: Why are bio-women so shit at strength based events??

Women, not even the best female athletes in the world anymore.

/Clown world intensifies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB-qWovaCLo

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 17, 2021 12:10 pm

Strip maps are not what you may think.
The introduction to C17 and C18 travel within Britain is jolly interesting.

The fare per passenger was 1/- per five miles (approximately £12 today). It is worth noting that 1/- was a typical day’s wage for a labourer, and could, equally, buy you 6 gallons of beer or 4lbs of meat.

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
November 17, 2021 12:12 pm

What we have seen in recent days and weeks is not fine

If he is talking about citizens being beaten, shot with rubber bullets and sprayed with pepper spray then I agree with him.

Somehow this stuff is OK but people protesting outside parliament isn’t.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 17, 2021 12:18 pm

More lunacy.

The longest lunar eclipse in centuries will happen this week, NASA says (16 Nov)

“The Moon will be so close to opposite the Sun on Nov 19 that it will pass through the southern part of the shadow of the Earth for a nearly total lunar eclipse,” NASA said on its website.

The eclipse will last 3 hours, 28 minutes and 23 seconds, making it the longest in centuries, Space.com reported.

Only a small sliver of the moon will be visible during the eclipse. About 97% of the moon will disappear into Earth’s shadow as the sun and moon pass opposite sides of the planet, EarthSky reported.

The eclipse will be visible in many parts of the world, including North America, eastern Australia, New Zealand and Japan, according to EarthSky.

Pity NASA can’t seem to get a rocket there but. Maybe if they ditched global worming, reaching out to muslims and being woke they might manage it.

NASA may not land people on moon again until 2027, not promised 2024, new audit says. (16 Nov)

P
P
November 17, 2021 12:18 pm

JD Rucker
@JDRucker
·
6h
Twitter says we shouldn’t watch this.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 17, 2021 12:22 pm

TaliDan the victim.

What I’d say is this there are some people who are threatening me, threatening my family. They are essentially attacking the safety of my family.

Essentially I’d say this is bullshit.
Show the messages Dr Spin.

Muz
Muz
November 17, 2021 12:25 pm

Calli 11.23am and otherwheres – you write more bracingly these days and I appreciate it. For the first time in six decades I try hard to pause before opening my mouth in company, and if I’m successful I end up saying merely “I see”. (If I fail to take a moment it invariably ends with someone complaining “you started it!”.)
There is one old friend, one, to whom I can openly talk about this shit, and he’s not well right now. So this place matters.

bespoke
bespoke
November 17, 2021 12:26 pm

Dotsays:
November 17, 2021 at 6:47 am
Tell us when you were asked about this before 2021, and by whom and why.

You and the others raised many concerns before 2021 about government over reach. So I’m not sure what your point is Dot. Apart from oppositionism.

I was agreeing with JC’s statmment. What part of that don’t you agree with?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 17, 2021 12:29 pm

“McClown says regions shouldn’t have more value in vote because of less population.”

It is deliberately set up that way to make sure that the largest population centre cannot ride roughshod over the less urbanised areas without any restraint.

I wonder what class they inserted into the WA school curriculum that pushed out little things like civics and government.

I would wager most people would not understand why it might be a bad thing.

Perhaps someone could ask them how they think they would enjoy living in an Australia which is just a playground for NSW and Vic.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 12:30 pm

This is beyond stupid.

Report from base camp stupid. Another assault on the peak.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 17, 2021 12:37 pm

In which my PC bingo card melts.

Community resources are imperative for young sexual minority men with stressful police exposures (16 Nov)

More gay, bisexual, and transgender Black men, also known as sexual minority Black men, are victims of policing stop-and-frisk policies than their Hispanic and white counterparts, according to a new Rutgers study.

Published in PLOS ONE, the study examined how young sexual minority men in New York City who have multiple minority statuses experience inequity in policing according to new research led by Perry N. Halkitis, dean of the Rutgers School of Public Health, and director of the Center for Health, Identity, Behavior & Prevention Studies.

I have a tiny suspicion that black qwerty guys have a whole lot more to fear from their community than from plod. Maybe they too should try to get jobs as diversity officers at Rutgers University. Someone seems happy to pay for them and for “studies” like this one.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 17, 2021 12:38 pm

See this sharticle of reporting.

The story is not Dans sweeping powers to rule as effective dictator pretty well any time he wants, but people opposing it.

How Daniel Andrews’ beleaguered pandemic bill became fuel for Victoria’s anti-government protests
Protesters have co-opted mainstream criticisms of proposed new laws to play to an increasingly polarised political environment


The Public Health and Wellbeing (Pandemic Management) Bill 2021 was being debated in the upper house on Tuesday. The legislation as introduced by the Andrews government would allow the premier to make an indefinite declaration of a pandemic and state of emergency*, give the health minister power to make broad public health orders, and grant authorised officers the power to detain people under quarantine.

It will pass with the support of crossbench MPs, who late Monday announced they had negotiated amendments to the legislation which will address some**of the concerns raised by civil liberties groups.

Last Thursday night a group of protesters also gathered outside the house of Animal Justice party MP Andy Meddick, one of the three key crossbenchers, according to a message posted by him on social media.

Meddick, who said he and his family have received death threats over the legislation, said he is concerned that hostilities towards politicians could escalate to the point seen in the United Kingdom earlier this year, with the alleged murder of Conservative MP Sir David Amess.***
….
In a group statement with fellow crossbenchers, Reason party leader Fiona Patten and Greens leader Samatha Ratnam, Meddick defended the decision to pass the bill.

“While the official opposition and some prominent shock jocks and tabloid commentators knowingly, dangerously incited and fanned unduly angry civil unrest with lies******, the crossbenchers focused on improving the bill to better protect and support the Victorian community,” they said.
…….
The central theme of the protests has been freedom from government control – over movement, vaccine mandates, and now from laws which have been framed by some legal and political critics as allowing unchecked government interference in people’s lives.

“There is a legitimate fear out there that this puts more power in [the government’s] hands, and there’s been very little effort by the government to communicate what this bill is about to the wider public,” Roose said.

It appears that some rightwing politicians are willing to capitalise on that polarisation, Deakin University lecturer Dr Imogen Richards said.*******

*This is fine, normal and its only those garage nazis who oppose Dans dictatorship.
**None.
*** There was a time I would have been against this, now I can only state my wish the eventual cull is thorough and well targeted.
**** And not one independent was brought off with an effective bribe. Oh wait.. Fears new move will make brothels more ‘risky’
There are serious concerns sweeping new laws that will allow booze to be introduced to brothels will create a myriad of issues for sex workers.
****** Truth
******* Or it could be that their deep dark motives are exactly what they state they are.

TL/DR
Everything is nazi.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 17, 2021 12:39 pm

No one in recent memory has been as brazen as this fella. Daylight second.

A victim and a heroic figure at the same time.
I wonder what the guy with the nebuliser in the quarantine hotel might have to say about Dan’s relationship with truth and the rights of every Victorian?

Kneel
Kneel
November 17, 2021 12:41 pm

“3. It’s refusal of service. That’s all we need to know.”

Err, no it’s not refusal of service at all.
They were happy to sell them something “off the shelf”, just not the custom one they wanted made specially for them.
If the “baddies” win and such people are forced to do this stuff, then in future it’ll be: “Sure, we can do that, no problem. It’s just we’re really busy and we couldn’t possibly have it ready before the happy day – are you sure you need it by the 15th? We can certainly do it for the 29th the month after”. Or no advertised pricing for custom cakes and then “Sure, no problem. I estimate the cost as $100,000. Would you like to leave a 10% non-refundable deposit so we can start? Cash only, I’m afraid – card machine is broken, see” Or even “Everyone I know just loves my hot chilli, horseradish and garlic marzipan, so I used that everywhere! Trust me, you’ll love it – especially with the quince paste layers in the cake itself. Yum yum!” Lots of ways around stupid shit like that.

Winston Smith
November 17, 2021 12:45 pm

Roger:

The US turns 250 in 2026.
The question then becomes the nature of the decline – a bang or a whimper?

It will be a bang.
This is when you find out what all those young military aged men were brought in for.
Don’t live in Dearborn, Michigan, unless you have an accent and a beard.
This goes for the men as well.

Zatara
Zatara
November 17, 2021 12:45 pm

COVID Panic Will Only End Through Civil Disobedience and Mockery

COVID was simply too good an excuse for the Democrats to damage Trump, tank the economy, vastly expand the powers of government, declare more or less permanent “states of emergency,” alter constitutionally prescribed voting rules and then, with Joe Biden’s election safely ensured in the few swing states that mattered, turn their socialist wrath on the American people.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 17, 2021 12:48 pm

Tim Watts: Mate, its Tim here.
Google: Hello Tim, how can we help you?
Tim: Look, we’re having a little problem with a UAP Senator.
Google: Yes.
Tim: He’s got a lot of videos countering your and our COVID narrative on your platform and they’re cutting through.
Google: Oh really. Let me have a look if we can pull the vids on spurious misinformation charges. That’s always useful.
Tim: No worries, mate. I’ll leave you to it.
Google: Call again, Tim. Happy to help.

Here you go Dover.

Twitter rolls out redesigned misinformation warning labels (16 Nov)

Isn’t it nice of them to provide such helpful “this is true” labels!

bons
bons
November 17, 2021 12:52 pm

The SBS racists now specialising in anti -normie “aktions’.
Promoting ‘Trans Awareness Week’.
Why?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 17, 2021 12:54 pm

Let the hate for these quizlings boil through you.

A Chap of no appearance/religion/Christian convert!!! tries to blow up a kids hospital, but we all know whos the real victim here.

Not from a parody site.

Liverpool’s leaders urge unity amid reports of Islamophobic attacks
Multi-faith representatives deliver statement of solidarity outside hospital where explosion took place

The scale of attacks taking place…
She said she had heard indirect reports of Islamophobia since the weekend. “We haven’t heard directly from people but it’s going around the city that a few ladies have had scarves pulled off, issues like that. So what we are trying to do is get the word out that we are working with organisations including the city council, and that people should report these crimes rather than just ignore them,” she said.

So in short, there have been no “islamophobic” attacks..

Her staff, along with local firefighters, were giving out leaflets from Stop Hate UK that said “faith is welcome – hate is not”.
..

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 17, 2021 12:55 pm

WA set to have an all-Labor Upper House forever as Bill to make upper House MPs Statewide MPs (instead of regionally based) passes WA Parliament:

Western Australia has a population of 2.6 million people, of which 2.1 million live in the metropolitan area of Perth….

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 17, 2021 12:56 pm

Do the people who read the AFR not have access to TV and the internet?

No one actually reads that paper, it’s just something left on the table in various businesses reception areas.

twostix
twostix
November 17, 2021 12:57 pm

It appears that some rightwing politicians are willing to capitalise on that polarisation, Deakin University lecturer Dr Imogen Richards said.*******

“Quick! They’re waking up! Vaccinate them harder!”

Like I’ve been saying for ages this is a class war. An establishment class has been officially born and it now starts cementing its position as the establishment. Labor guy emails Google people: “Hey friend, can you do us a favour? The proles have a party we need to be getting rid of” – they know what to do, The Guardian girl rings any academic on earth: “Hey friend can you give us a little quote? The proles are getting uppity” – academic knows what to say. The Victorian Premier rings his mate in Canberra: “Hey friend can you give us a lend of some soldiers to deal with these Nazis?” – he knows what to give. And the judges watch it all “Sorry nu-prole, the old laws don’t apply, and the new ones aren’t meant to protect you“.

All the same people.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 17, 2021 12:59 pm

COVID Panic Will Only End Through Civil Disobedience and Mockery

We have already heard leftists sounding the alarm that the right is fighting dirty – with laughter.

They hear in the laughter of “Let’s Go Brandon” something like a threat of violence.

It is not surprising really. I have noticed long since that leftists have trouble with comedy. If they can keep themselves away from political topics they can get by, but when politics comes in hate dominates and their audiences are not laughing but swept up in a frenzy of hatred and malicious joy at hearing their enemies mocked.

Kneel
Kneel
November 17, 2021 1:02 pm

“Consider also Nick Sandmann.”

Like Sandmann, Rittenhouse may end up with a multi-million compensation payout from parts of the MSM – assuming he gets off. Paybacks area bitch, aren’t they?

Roger
Roger
November 17, 2021 1:03 pm

WA set to have an all-Labor Upper House forever as Bill to make upper House MPs Statewide MPs (instead of regionally based) passes WA Parliament

Might as well abolish the Upper House altogether.

Create some hospital beds instead, which WA appears to be in dire need of despite a $5bn + surplus.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 17, 2021 1:08 pm

TaliDan the victim.
What I’d say is this there are some people who are threatening me, threatening my family. They are essentially attacking the safety of my family.

These are not the ones to worry about – they just the talkers.
I’d be more worried about the ones who do not talk, do not send death threats.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 17, 2021 1:09 pm

Former Labor MP Craig Thomson arrested over alleged migration fraud
Michael McKenna
Reporter
@McKennaattheOz
15 minutes ago November 17, 2021

Former federal MP Craig Thomson has been arrested by Australian Federal Police in relation to alleged migration fraud.

The one-time Labor parliamentarian was picked up in the central NSW coast town of Gosford after a long-running investigation.

In July, Australian Federal Police officers searched Mr Thomson’s home at Wamberal, near Gosford in a multi-agency investigation that also involved a search warrant in Queensland.

Thomson became a federal Labor MP in 2007 and held the seat of Dobell on the NSW Central Coast until 2013.

In 2014 he was sentenced by a Victorian court to three months in jail, with a further nine months suspended, for stealing from the Health Services Union in his previous role as the union’s national secretary.

On appeal, he avoided imprisonment and was fined $25,000. He had misused the union’s money on prostitutes and fine dining.

bespoke
bespoke
November 17, 2021 1:10 pm

This China thing has crashed demand for grapes so expect many bankrupt growers that haven’t a diversified portfolio and workers on the dole next year.

Aaron
Aaron
November 17, 2021 1:14 pm

“What I’d say is this there are some people who are threatening me, threatening my family. They are essentially attacking the safety of my family”.

Mind you, we can discount the fellow who was driven head first into a concrete floor.

He’s still too ill to be a threat …

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 17, 2021 1:18 pm

Twitter rolls out redesigned misinformation warning labels (16 Nov)

Of course, people will see the labels and interpret them for what they literally are: Twitter wants us to think this or that, and modify their opinion to the twats accordingly.

When Twatter says something is controversial a normal person will think, “Ah, an idea progressives don’t like.” If Twatter says something is not true a normal person will respond “Oh, I might give this a closer look.”

Zipster
November 17, 2021 1:24 pm

The SBS racists now specialising in anti -normie “aktions’.
Promoting ‘Trans Awareness Week’.
Why?

it’s all about trashing the birth rate

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 17, 2021 1:25 pm

but it’s going around the city that a few ladies have had scarves pulled off

That is the one they always come up with. Never evidence if it is true.

Remember that I’ll Ride With You thing a few years ago where people were supposed to show their support of Muslims by making a point of being near them? I believe at an early stage there was supposed to be a de-scarving incident, although the woman who claimed it eventually admitted that she was afraid it might happen. It never did. To anyone.

But it is the default judgement – “Even though there is no record of anyone doing it, it is the sort of thing Australians would do so you better get apologising!”

Vicki
Vicki
November 17, 2021 1:28 pm

This article on the spineless surrender of independence in Australia during COVID is in today’s Australian Spectator under paywall, but I hope they won’t mind me relaying it here. It is by a writer called Kasumi Borczyk, & it superb, in my humble opinion. Beautifully and passionately written.

Of all the known unknowns of the Covid-19 pandemic, of who to blame and of how to act, one certainty remains: that the impact of the virus has spawned an entire vocabulary inscribed into the symbolic order. LGA’s, Contact tracing, Red Zones, Self-isolation, Tier one, two and three Exposure Sites, Close Contacts, COVIDSafe, Stop the Spread, Flatten the Curve, Do The Three To Stay Covid Free.

Thousands of Australians have been tuning-in to the official Covid-19 press conferences held by the secular priests of our time whereby the High Priestess of Epidemiology and the Archbishop of Public Health pantomime control through the invention of jingoistic neologisms like “Donut Days”. Governance has been reduced to a bureaucratic exercise in dispute resolution and its representatives likewise have begun addressing the public as though they were social media interns for Krispy Kreme.

In the same vein that the phrase “unattended baggage” has taken root in the post-911 collective psyche — such that an “unexpected item in the bagging area” turns your garden-variety avocado theft into an act of micro-terrorism — how will the official language of Covid-19 manifest itself in the months and years to come?

Political philosophers and public intellectuals such as Michel Foucault, Paul Goodman, Ivan Illich and Giorgio Agamben have theorised the ways in which credentialed experts are exercising ever greater control over everyday life.

Foucault warned that the rising tide of history is continually shifting away from antiquated modes of control, such as the public spectacle of punishment, towards more nebulous forms of power that involve data modelling and surveillance that micromanage the education, health, and sex lives of individuals under the auspices of scientific neutrality.

Accordingly, rally cries to ‘defund the police’ or ‘abolish prisons’ will likely cosmetically reconfigure what today’s control society looks like by outsourcing the authority to whatever new iterations of social workers, mental health experts and criminologists will be required to meet the demands of newer surveillance technologies.

Responses to the Covid-19 pandemic has proven to be no exception. During the daily state press conferences, authorities have appealed specifically to the fact that they are following the free-floating signifier of “The Science” as a means of legitimating control.

As with the architecture of most institutions, the state response to the pandemic has had a tripartite trajectory: firstly it has reinforced our collective belief in progress as the animating force of our times. Secondly, it has made manifest the impossibility of this myth and thirdly it has explained that our inability to achieve it is the fault of individual actions of the unmasked, the unvaccinated or the non-compliant rather than considering the role that several decades of neoliberal policy has played in stripping the copper wiring for scrap metal from the walls of our housing, education and healthcare systems.

One of the most banal aspects of the pandemic has been the ways in which the professional managerial class have been able to substantiate the mythology of their own self-importance in antagonism to the “uneducated” and the “misinformed.”

The market has swiftly reconfigured itself to meet the needs of the present moment. The result, of course, has been a kabuki theatre of one-upmanship in which mask wearing, social distancing and elaborate displays of vaccine status can be used as a means with which to signal your adherence to or rebellion from the dominant narrative.

Entire cottage industries have been created and embraced by consumers with a cargo-cult enthusiasm and marketing consultants have brainstormed endlessly about how to make masks, hand sanitiser and QR codes appear less sinister. The table with wet-wipes at the front of my local supermarket is called a “sanitation station,” my local pharmacy sells hand-sanitiser disguised as a “purifying hand treatment” and my favourite clothing brands have pivoted towards loungewear for “these uncertain times.” The accoutrements of the covid-19 pandemic are clearly here to stay given how easily they can weaponised towards crypto-puritan displays of tolerance and conscientiousness.

As Byung-Chul Hang notes, the “neoliberal labor camp has acquired a new name: the home office.” Zoom meetings have proven to be the ideal communicative medium for the narcissistic age in which every workplace interaction is mediated by the image of oneself. Work-from-home scenarios, Hang explains, are often more taxing than traditional office spaces because the final vestiges of a disciplinary society have been replaced by the deregulated rhythms of cognitive capitalism. The distinction between our public and private lives, with their own social and geographical configurations, no longer exists when we are able to seamlessly work, socialise and consume through the one technological apparatus.

Over the past few years, certain foot soldiers in the culture war have displayed a libidinally-invested obsession in dissecting the minutiae of online media discourse. Every week a new puff piece would be published about why “silence is violence,” why “X film has a gender/race problem” or why “Y’s tweet was problematic because it constituted Z-erasure.” What has become clear throughout the pandemic is that the professional managerial class is interested only in critiquing language when it aligns with liberal orthodoxy.

The ability for white-collar workers to “stay home and save lives” while ordering soy burgers for delivery, “anti-vaxxer tears” coffee mugs and “Pfizer Alumni 2021” t-shirts online is contingent on an entire underclass of workers both at home and overseas who enable the conditions of possibility for their inflated sense of self to unfold.

When tradesmen began protesting the lockdown measures in Melbourne, Australia, the liberal media machine was quick to defuse their political potential by labelling them as “anti-science” and “conspiracy theorists” rather than taking their demands seriously.

The left, who have historically condemned the sensationalism of mass media coverage on rioting and protests, immediately distanced themselves lest they be accused of co-conspiracy (even though it is the working class who will most likely be subjected to the rigmarole of future restrictions on movement and employment.) As Alex Gutentag reported, in the last two years which saw the greatest wealth transfer in human history, “Experts, technocrats, and corporations became the heroes of the pandemic, while the masses became the villains.”

During the early days of the pandemic, Georgio Agamben became one of the heretical bad-boys of academia for denouncing Italy’s pandemic response. He railed against the popularisation of the term “social distancing.”

The conception of the masses has been inverted through social distancing measures so as to refer now to a symbolic collection of atomised, individual existences who are unable to mobilise, socialise, celebrate or mourn for their dead.

The government and its media henchmen have inculcated an atmosphere of fear and hostility centred around the lives you could either lose or save simply by choosing to participate or abstain from everyday, civic activity.

The modus operandi of our times, as evidenced by the language of everyday, is geared toward the preservation of bare biological existence. Agamben concludes that “a norm which affirms that we must renounce the good to save the good is as false and contradictory as that which, in order to protect freedom, imposes the renunciation of freedom.”

If the pandemic has shown us anything it is that the more nebulous the threat, whether real or imagined, the more easily it can be appropriated towards stoking fear and engendering obedience.

The climate of paranoia fomented by death tallies, outbreak maps and press conferences are then instantiated in everyday interactions in which every person is treated with suspicion as a possible vector for death and disease. The animosity towards intellectual inquiry is such that to critique the government’s response in any way (apart from suggesting that the restrictions should have been harder, longer and more extreme) is tantamount to doing “a science denial.”

Alain Badiou speaks of Art, Love, Politics and Science as seperate “truth procedures,” independent from one another. In his Manifesto for Philosophy, he claims that philosophy is unique in its ability to think through truth procedures qua truth procedures and to be able to exist at their intersections. The danger, according to Badiou is when philosophy defers its intellectual energy entirely to another truth procedure resulting in a myopic description of the events at hand.

The process by which so-called liberal democracy has been slowly ceding ground to the techno-medical despotism of unelected experts at the expense of love, politics and art began long before the pandemic and will continue long after it but it took an event as global in scale as Covid-19 to realise its true expression.

Dissident voices have never been more urgent but they will require the courage of their own convictions to confront the low-grade hostility that dominates today’s cultural landscape.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 17, 2021 1:29 pm

Catherine Andrews
(@CathLAndrews)
We have received so many beautiful messages today from all over. Thank you. We are reminded that the light shines in the darkness and the darkness will not overcome it. As ever #IStandWithDan #GoHigh

Has the cyclist that Catherine “Oops where’s that breathalyser” Andrews ran into recovered enough to be able to stand?

Aaron
Aaron
November 17, 2021 1:30 pm

If today is a foretaste of things to come, I think “The Babylon Bee” has some tough times ahead.

Still think the flesh wound/amputee is nearly unbeatable, but “The Guardian” always has an outside chance in any stupidity contest.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 17, 2021 1:34 pm

Mother Lode says:
November 17, 2021 at 1:25 pm
but it’s going around the city that a few ladies have had scarves pulled off

That is the one they always come up with. Never evidence if it is true.

Bit like a few years back when Australians were accused of spitting in the face of certain people of the veil.
That’s not an Australian custom, but it is certainly prevalent in certain areas of the world.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 1:34 pm

Tyranny and Stairphobia by Dethspickable Dan.

Will it sell?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 1:42 pm


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Winston Smith
November 17, 2021 1:44 pm

Aaron:
Just to point out that he has both arms.
I remarked at the time his wound looked gory, but any competent surgeon would restore the arm and hand to it’s usual function with a minimum of fuss.

Aaron
Aaron
November 17, 2021 1:46 pm

With this trannie movement in sports, the “ladies” will be getting more than scarves pulled off.

Winston Smith
November 17, 2021 1:48 pm

From Project Veritas:
Project Veritas released a new video today featuring an interview with CBS San Antonio [KENS 5] whistleblower, Brett Mauser, who exposes his colleagues and outside corporate partners for promoting a political ideology rather than objective journalism in the newsroom.

Aaron
Aaron
November 17, 2021 1:49 pm

Winston,
You’re a bit wrong footed Hop to it.

Zatara
Zatara
November 17, 2021 1:51 pm

These Biden “I Did That” stickers have been appearing at gas pumps all over the US where gasoline prices have skyrocketed since his inauguration.

The adhesive used is particularly sticky and all but impossible to remove entirely. Guaranteed to break the ice at parties and drive socialists nuts.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 17, 2021 1:54 pm

These Biden “I Did That” stickers have been appearing at gas pumps all over the US where gasoline prices have skyrocketed since his inauguration.

Australians would be too conformist to do such a thing.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 17, 2021 1:56 pm

I can’t help but think a mob brandishing several sets of portable/prop stairs (or stepladders as a reasonable substitute) outside Spring Street might have been more effective than mere gallows…

[Not A Pushing Down Another Flight of Stairs Threat]

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 17, 2021 1:57 pm

With this trannie movement in sports, the “ladies” will be getting more than scarves pulled off.

Phrasing.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 17, 2021 1:58 pm

Our Craig (Thomson) is apparently facing a possible 10 years.

What’s the bet he doesn’t even do 10 days?

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 17, 2021 2:00 pm

Technology breakdown in the Territory!

UPDATE: There are six new cases in the Northern Territory, including a three-week-old baby girl.

One of the new cases was a 36-year-old man who was a household contact of a Katherine case.

He is in the Centre for National Resilience but may have been infectious while in the community.

The remaining five new cases are household contacts in Robinson River.

They include a 29-year-old man, a 23-year-old man, a 21-year-old woman, a 13-year-old girl and the three-week-old baby girl.

All of these cases are now being flown to Darwin to stay in the Howard Springs quarantine facility.

It comes as the NT Government requires anyone who has been in Robinson River since November 11 or in Katherine since November 7 to get tested and self-isolate.

Contact tracers have also struggled, as the information provided on hardcopy forms has been missing or illegible.

Chief Minister Michael Gunner urged anyone checking in to make sure their writing was clear and that businesses keep on top of their lists.

Baba
Baba
November 17, 2021 2:03 pm

He is in the Centre for National Resilience

So there’s no chance of him dying?

calli
calli
November 17, 2021 2:05 pm

We are reminded that the light shines in the darkness and the darkness will not overcome it.

Nice. Quoting the first few lines of Saint John’s gospel.

She thinks her husband is the Messiah, does she?

What a mendacious, foul piece of work.

Zatara
Zatara
November 17, 2021 2:05 pm

Biden Admin Looking to Dump Kamala Harris?

Fox News Congressional reporter Chad Pergram reported Tuesday evening that he had been given a tip about Kamala Harris several weeks ago that said he should familiarize himself with the nomination process for a vice president in the House and the Senate. Pergram’s report comes after a bombshell CNN report Sunday that the White House was rife with rumors about Joe Biden contemplating nominating the flailing Harris to the Supreme Court to get her out of his administration and out of the line of succession.

Unfortunately for Joe, there is no vacancy on the SCOTUS and there is a 50/50 split in the Senate so she couldn’t be confirmed anyway. Yes, there is a tie breaker procedure, but it involves the Vice President (her) casting the tie breaking vote. Not even the Republicans are feckless enough to allow her to vote herself onto the Court.

Chris
Chris
November 17, 2021 2:05 pm

Like Sandmann, Rittenhouse may end up with a multi-million compensation payout from parts of the MSM – assuming he gets off. Paybacks area bitch, aren’t they?

I am betting that Rittenhouse will find it a lot harder than Sandmann to crystallise some well-defined targets and clear causes of action.

Joanna
Joanna
November 17, 2021 2:05 pm

It seems Adem Somyurek has provided his vaccination papers to parliament. Let’s hope Dan is having an aneurysm right about now.

https://twitter.com/TimQMLCNorthVic/status/1460791318406336516?t=jE0s_I5McFp2MS2MgOdhGQ&s=19

Aaron
Aaron
November 17, 2021 2:11 pm

“Contact tracers have also struggled, as the information provided on hardcopy forms has been missing or illegible”.

Police urged a Mr M. Mouse to come forward.

Gab
Gab
November 17, 2021 2:12 pm

Brad Battin MP
@BradBattinMP
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53m
There is now confirmed an email from @VicParliament at #Springst We have all received an email stating the Parliament is getting health advice. I wonder why like every business in Victoria they don’t have a COVID plan? Again it appears by Labor it is do as I say, not as I do.
Brad Battin MP
@BradBattinMP
·
1h
COVID Alert at @VicParliament more news to come.

Gab
Gab
November 17, 2021 2:14 pm

How can there be a covid alert when they are all vaccinated?

shatterzzz
November 17, 2021 2:14 pm

Geez! .. how WOKE can plod get? .. releasing pix of the suspects wearing masks FFS! ..
No mention ofASPIRING .. it’s a worry .. LOL!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10209947/Melbourne-rapper-Chris-Habiyakare-shot-dead-police-launch-manhunt.html#newcomment

local oaf
November 17, 2021 2:16 pm

As a non-Victorian, non-consumer of the MSM, I’ve been aware that Andrews fell down some stairs months ago.

What was the official version of the incident exactly?

Are there strong rumours of an alternative cause of the accident, or mostly wishful thinking by right minded citizens?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 17, 2021 2:22 pm

COVID Alert at @VicParliament more news to come.

Hmmm…
Protesters at parliament and now a Covid alert.
Dan and the spin team workshopping hard and fast.

Winston Smith
November 17, 2021 2:24 pm

Craig Kelly has asked for an explanation for the dramatic rise in Myocarditis and Pericarditis.
It’s too early for the WZV “vaxxine” damaged organs to have made their way through the system, but keep an eye out ( 🙂 )* for transplant figures above the normal.

* I made a funny.

shatterzzz
November 17, 2021 2:28 pm

Chief Minister Michael Gunner urged anyone checking in to make sure their writing was clear and that businesses keep on top of their lists.

Baffling! .. How do you confuse X with something else? LOL!

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
November 17, 2021 2:31 pm

From the ABC COVID blog…

Now the press conference is over, let’s go back over what we missed.

One of the new cases is a man in his 30s from Katherine
– Two of the new cases are women from Katherine — they were not included in the case numbers announced at the NT’s press conference
– Five cases are from Robinson River, the youngest being a three-week-old baby
All of today’s new cases are Aboriginal Territorians and household contacts of known cases
– All of the new cases and their close contacts are being taken to the Howard Springs quarantine facility
The cluster now sits at 19 cases.

The outbreak in Darwin and Katherine a couple of weeks ago only yielded 4 positive cases, all close household contacts.

Given that exposure sites included Mitchell Street and the Waterfront, both popular entertainment precincts, the Humpty Doo Hotel and a Melbourne Cup function at the Noonamah Tavern, you’ve got to wonder how contagious this wuflu really is.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 17, 2021 2:39 pm

Let’s hope Dan is having an aneurysm right about now.

I’ve got one he can have. Not big enough to do any damage but we can live in hope.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 17, 2021 2:41 pm

No one actually reads that paper, it’s just something left on the table in various businesses reception areas.

Not to be confused with The Grauniad-on-the-Yarra which is left on the table of inner city cafes.

Chris
Chris
November 17, 2021 2:45 pm

I am just staggered that things are so shit and yet I see no coherent opposition to shit things.
Remember the Burke/Lawrence Governments in WA? As crooked as they come. The media spent all their time tonguing the arses of multi-millionaires.
2021? Same.
I while ago I mentioned ‘phone trees’ as an activist tool. Someone sneered they are obviously way outdated, but when the forces of conformity are locking down the ability to voice unapproved thoughts, aggressively different tools should be used to remove the power to silence disagreement.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 2:45 pm

As gab says:
How can there be a covid alert when they are all vaccinated?

can dethpickable dan answer the question for me?

twostix
twostix
November 17, 2021 2:46 pm

All of the new cases and their close contacts are being taken to the Howard Springs quarantine facility

Governments started whisking people off to ‘quarantine’ camps, sick or not, as a matter of policy without so much as a whisper that it was going to become a thing.

Like in QLD where apparently you get sent to hospital at the point of a gun whether you’re sick or not. At one point there was 10,000 people under ‘isolation’ orders in Brisbane – this was outside of ‘lockdown’ and nobody so much as blinked an eye.

Which in all gives a new perspective of how the atrocities last century happened, people disappeared from sight, and if you don’t personally know one of them it’s just a number isn’t it?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 2:56 pm

Has dear leader offered the protesters #1000 to stay at home, yet?
Counting down. One…

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 17, 2021 2:57 pm

twostix says:
November 17, 2021 at 2:46 pm
All of the new cases and their close contacts are being taken to the Howard Springs quarantine facility

twostix – do you know what will happen there?
Do they all get forcibly “vaxxinated” ?
Is there any transparency in what happens to them in these concentration camps?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 17, 2021 2:57 pm

Liverpool explosion: Bomber Emad Al Swealmeen tried to ‘game the system’ by claiming he was Christian
Matt Dathan, Home Affairs Editor, Washington | Fiona Hamilton, Crime and Security Editor
Tuesday November 16 2021, 10.25pm GMT, The Times

The Liverpool bomber was a failed asylum seeker who tried to “game the system” by converting to Christianity, Home Office sources claimed yesterday.

Priti Patel, the home secretary, said that Emad Al Swealmeen exploited the “merry-go-round” of Britain’s “broken” asylum system by making repeated claims to stay in the country.

Al Swealmeen, 32, killed himself and injured a taxi driver on Remembrance Sunday when he detonated an improvised explosive device outside Liverpool Women’s Hospital.

The bombing was declared a terrorist incident but detectives have not found evidence of an ideological motive. He was not being monitored by MI5.

Al Swealmeen arrived in Britain in 2014 and sought asylum, saying he was from Syria. His claim was rejected by the Home Office the following year on the grounds that he was from Jordan.

Friends said yesterday that he became depressed in 2019 when a second claim was rejected. In it, he had claimed that his late grandfather’s Syrian passport had been found.

A Home Office source said that he came to the UK legally, adding that he attempted to use his conversion to Christianity in the asylum process, which was typical of the way Iranians and Iraqis in particular had attempted to “game the system”. Applicants who show they are committed Christians can argue that their new faith would put them at risk in their home country.

Patel, who is travelling to Washington on a three-day trip, separately said that Al Swealmeen was typical of migrants and “a whole legal industry” which tried to exploit the system. She will hold her first face-to-face talks with her Biden administration counterparts.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 3:03 pm

All of the new cases and their close contacts are being taken to the Howard Springs quarantine facility

I know nothing about this.
Anyway it wouldn’t happen to good Australians.

Aaron
Aaron
November 17, 2021 3:04 pm
incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 17, 2021 3:07 pm

Get back to me when the trials finish. FFS.

The trials might be fast tracked due to an emergency.

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