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An Experiment on a Bird in an Air Pump, Joseph Wright, 1768

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Cassie of Sydney
November 18, 2021 7:12 am

“He and Dan should be prosecuted for this.”

Should……but won’t be. They’re progressives so they get a free pass.

Cassie of Sydney
November 18, 2021 7:13 am

But wouldn’t “white tiles” be waaaacist?

jupes
jupes
November 18, 2021 7:14 am

I thought the Liberals were extinct in Western Australia.

Two of the bastards left. Four Nats.

rosie
rosie
November 18, 2021 7:14 am

Somyurek could and should have done this last September.
Better late than never.

rosie
rosie
November 18, 2021 7:15 am

What about red roofs, are they still okay?

Baba
Baba
November 18, 2021 7:21 am

“Rob Stokes said dark roofing will be discontinued…”

White supremacy?

Cassie of Sydney
November 18, 2021 7:22 am

I thought the Liberals were extinct in Western Australia.

Two of the bastards left. Four Nats.”

Who needs a Night of the Long Knives when you’ve got a Liberal Party to do it all for you.

rosie
rosie
November 18, 2021 7:22 am
Baba
Baba
November 18, 2021 7:25 am

How clever. And after a while, when all the pale roof material gets covered with a layer of sooty mould (from eucalypts), lichens and other organic materials and turns a few shades darker, is he going to pay for the unsightly and useless mess to be cleaned?

Ha! My neighbour had his white colorbond roof cleaned by a contractor last week.

shatterzzz
November 18, 2021 7:26 am

You’d expect better than this from OUR ABC .. lazy reporting!
The premise of the story might be spot on but the constant use (whenever charity food tales appear) of FOODBANK as the main supplier is rubbish!.. FOODBANK NSW is a registered charity! It does NOT give out free food to families! FOODBANK NSW on-sells donations from large food retail/manufacturers to other charities for them to do whatever they do with it ..
I can assure you that if you turned up at the FOODBANK warehouse and asked for a handout you’d get nothing but directions to some other charity organization!
FOODBANK NSW is so successful at on-selling “freebies” that it not only owns it’s land & premises but all the equipment that goes with running a very, profitable & successful business!
Then again, when you get 90% of your goods for nuttin’, paid employees wages subsidized and have tax-free status it’d be fairly difficult not to be successful …. LOL!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-18/disadvantage-in-australia-likely-worse-after-covid-crisis/100626918

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 18, 2021 7:30 am

How clever. And after a while, when all the pale roof material gets covered with a layer of sooty mould (from eucalypts), lichens and other organic materials and turns a few shades darker, is he going to pay for the unsightly and useless mess to be cleaned?

Exactly, calli. It is very obvious here in Toowoomba when walking around. You need a darker shade.

Vicki
Vicki
November 18, 2021 7:31 am

Rosie @6.49 re Malaysian Ivermectin study:

I note that these study only looked at its effect on patients with late stage COVID. It has always been acknowledged by FLCCC & other frontline physicians treating patients with Ivermectin that it is only effective in the early stages of infection – & before the critical stage of the cytokines storm. But this is also true for all other conventional treatments used in ICU where they struggle to save the critical patients.

The essential point is that Ivermectin ( assisted by Zinc & corticosteroids) will prevent the catastrophic viral replication and inflammation that occurs in many patients.

Incidentally, that is conceded in my cursory reading of the article. The emphasis is on the late stages when the attack on the body is at crisis point. I think a fair reading proves the efficacy Iver. In any case, it does not refute the 60plus studies that have now proved its efficacy.

The key to controlling this virus after infection is understanding why the body reacts so catastrophically in a minority of patients. I think the theory of Dr. Shankara Chetty, the Indian doctor in South Africa, who has treated (successfully) over 4,000 patients, is the most fascinating. He believes the cytokines storm is actually an allergic reaction to virus debris after the immune system has dealt with the virus in the early stages.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 18, 2021 7:36 am

Whoosis then? NT News today.

A FORMER Don Dale detainee has had his damages claim thrown out and will have to pay the Territory government’s costs, despite a court ruling he was unlawfully detained when he was 17.

The now 26-year-old, who cannot be named, sued the government for racial discrimination, assault, battery and breach of duty of care over various periods of detention in Darwin and Alice Springs in 2011 and 2012.

In dismissing the majority of his claims, Justice Richard White found the use of spit hoods and other restraints on the man while he was in detention was reasonable and justified.

“Given ordinary understandings about the effects of spitting and the evidence … about those effects on prison and detention officers, it is understandable that the corrections officers sought to protect themselves against the risk of spitting,” he said.

“Their use of the very piece of equipment provided at (the centre) for that purpose was in my view both reasonable and justifiable.”

But Justice White found there was no lawful justification for the man being held in Don Dale’s notorious behavioural management unit (BMU) for a period of eight days in 2012.

rosie
rosie
November 18, 2021 7:39 am

I just read the Victorian food bank annual report.
Most of their income is government grants and donations.
In 2019 and 2020 ‘handling fees’ were around 1.5 million per annum (as opposed to 15 million in grants and donations).
They also announced that from September 2021 they would no longer be charging handling fees.
Btw It doesn’t make any practical sense for individuals to rock up at foodbank in yarraville (on a very busy industrial estate off Whitehall St) to get food.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 18, 2021 7:41 am

detainee has had his damages claim thrown out and will have to pay the Territory government’s costs

A few more stickups in Moama may assist to defray his expenses. Mumsy in Perth is a bit short at present.

calli
calli
November 18, 2021 7:46 am

The pale roofs here, by the seaside, get covered is a thin film of briny, sticky crap that captures dirt and dust. Plus, of course, the never-ending oils and pollens and wind-blown soot.

They look terrible, particularly the cement tiles which become porous over time. Glazed terracotta stands up longer. The pale Colourbond fares no better. After a while that sheen also disappears, leaving a slightly rough surface that catches everything.

Does the energy and chemicals that need to be used to clean the things (and note, the chemical runoff goes straight into fouling stormwater systems or household water tanks) offset the “heat” produced by a dark roof?

These guys never think through their idiotic brain farts.

Dark roofing – the new singlet bag.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 18, 2021 7:46 am

Only in the Territory:

THE Tiwi Islands community is in mourning for a second person after funeral preparations turned to violence in a Darwin home.

NT Police major crimes ­officer in charge Detective Senior Sergeant Jak Evans confirmed police were ­treating the death of a 42-year-old man in a Malak home as a homicide.

Sgt Evans said police were called to the home about 5.40pm Tuesday following reports of an assault.

The man was ­allegedly found bleeding in the driveway. Despite CPR being performed the man died at the scene.

Sgt Evans said the man and his alleged attacker were both from the Tiwi Islands and were in Darwin to prepare for a funeral for an extended family member.

Police believe the 42-year-old man and a 28-year-old argued over the ceremonial arrangements when the dispute turned ­violent.

Sgt Evans said the younger man allegedly used a blunt object to repeatedly beat the older man. He said when the weapon broke he allegedly used it to stab the older man in the abdomen.

Sgt Evans said people at the home tried to intervene to pull the men apart “but it was too late”. He said the alleged attacker was found uninjured at a nearby address.

Neighbour Deanne Lodge said she heard the screams and yells from the alleged assault from next door.

She said family members tried to protect the older man and called for someone to call an ambulance.

Ms Lodge said he was initially able to stand, before collapsing to the ground.

“He collapsed right back, head first on his head and then the guy who was helping him went and got a towel to stop the bleeding,” she said. “I knew he wasn’t good because his breathing was very shallow.

“It was very traumatic, just watching him die slowly. I went to sleep last night and could hardly sleep, it was just going through my head just constantly.”

Ms Lodge said there was “blood everywhere”, with gashes and marks around his head.

Sgt Evans said the 28-year-old was in custody and expected to be formally charged on Wednesday evening, likely facing murder charges.

With the family now having to prepare a second funeral, Sgt Evans said it was likely to be a devastating time for the community.

NT News

shatterzzz
November 18, 2021 7:49 am
rosie
rosie
November 18, 2021 7:50 am

I made no claims regarding the ivermectin study but do note the article referred to trial participants as category 2 and 3 stage patients, over 50 one comorbity (not ‘late stage’) who had been admitted to hospital and were given ivermectin in the first week to see if it would prevent the disease from progressing.
Every one usually seems very keen to point out that healthy younger people face little or no risk from covid so why would they need to take anything?
Malaysia health ministry ivermectin does not reduce risk of severe illness

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 18, 2021 7:54 am

“As Australia becomes more multicultural, issues of identity and belonging are becoming more important, and governments can’t afford to ignore them,” he said.

The fallacy of multiculturalism summed up concisely by one of its proponents.

Indolent
Indolent
November 18, 2021 7:55 am

Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals PERMANENTLY Blocks OSHA COVID-19 Jab Mandate

This court has affirmed it’s earlier stay. However, since there are also proceedings in various other jurisdictions, the overall decision may end up in the hands of another, less honest court.

shatterzzz
November 18, 2021 7:56 am

Reading a lot of comments on various BAT FLU news stories where the double vaxxed are starting to question why they can still catch BAT FLU so easily if there are only 5 to 10% of folk unvaxxed .. could folks be waking up to the scam .. time will tell!

Indolent
Indolent
November 18, 2021 7:57 am

German MEP: ‘More People Died from Covid Vax in 2021 than in the Last 20 years from all Vaccines Combined’

“Dear [EU] commission, pull the emergency brake on these vaccines and stop this experimentation on humans. I beg you!” – MEP Joachim Kuhs

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 18, 2021 8:03 am

Bruce of N

I’ve noticed lately how there are all these very black panels on everyone’s roofs these days. Something to do with saving the world. I wonder if the 80% of energy they do not convert into electricity is converted to something else? We should ask Matt Kean about this mystery.

Kean is probably stupid enough to suggest that they should use reflective glass to ease the problem?

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 18, 2021 8:05 am

Cassie

They’re progressives so they get a free pass.

The word “progressives” should always be in scare quotes, and be preceded by the words “so-called”.

shatterzzz
November 18, 2021 8:08 am

How clever. And after a while, when all the pale roof material gets covered with a layer of sooty mould (from eucalypts), lichens and other organic materials and turns a few shades darker, is he going to pay for the unsightly and useless mess to be cleaned?

They left out the bit about the , compulsory, roof cleaning every weekend .. LOL!

miltonf
miltonf
November 18, 2021 8:09 am

Yes I’ve never thought there was anything at all ‘progressive’ about these elitist, marxist grifters

miltonf
miltonf
November 18, 2021 8:10 am

elitist, marxist grifters/wreckers

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 18, 2021 8:11 am

Calli

These guys never think through their idiotic brain farts.

The bureaucrats who advise them arrogantly believe that they have the brain power to solve every problem with thought alone.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 18, 2021 8:22 am

BJ – I think solar panels will have added considerably to UHIE, especially in Western Sydney which being tucked up next to the Blue Mountains has poor atmospheric circulation already. And the increasing urban density for Gaia is another own-goal.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 18, 2021 8:24 am

By the time you need to go to hospital, you’ve left the Ivermectin too late. Another trial which proves what it set out to do – throw doubt on Ivermectin.

Franx
Franx
November 18, 2021 8:32 am

It’s a pity that Archbishop Comensoli asked ‘all clergy to refrain’ from attending the procession.
Yet I wonder at the clergy being so easily put off at being ‘asked’.
Perhaps the Archbishop assumed that the will to support the faithful was not there in the first place.
In which case the clergy could hereon in decide to prove the Archbishop mistaken.

Zipster
Zipster
November 18, 2021 8:36 am

Prosecutors withheld Exculpatory Evidence from Rittenhouse defense team..

there has been a complete breakdown in law and order

Zipster
Zipster
November 18, 2021 8:41 am

The key to controlling this virus after infection is understanding why the body reacts so catastrophically in a minority of patients. I think the theory of Dr. Shankara Chetty, the Indian doctor in South Africa, who has treated (successfully) over 4,000 patients, is the most fascinating. He believes the cytokines storm is actually an allergic reaction to virus debris after the immune system has dealt with the virus in the early stages.

I tend to agree with this.

If you catch a cold after having had covid, your body reacts very strangely.

Zipster
Zipster
November 18, 2021 8:45 am

Malaysian ivermectin study

ivermectin I ordered from india has manages to get through customs.

problem with covid is its mostly asymptomatic and mild so knowing you are infected early is difficult.

Cassie of Sydney
November 18, 2021 9:00 am

” Archbishop Comensoli “

I’m not a Catholic and I don’t know much about Comensoli however I thought he was weak and spineless when he said re. the Pell verdict that he believed both…..as in both the accuser “J” and Cardinal Pell. In other words he was trying to appease the baying mob and having a bob’s worth each way.

I thought to myself….WRONG…..it was clear to me and many others there was only one person telling the truth and that person was not “J” the accuser.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 18, 2021 9:02 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 18, 2021 at 8:22 am
BJ – I think solar panels will have added considerably to UHIE, especially in Western Sydney which being tucked up next to the Blue Mountains has poor atmospheric circulation already. And the increasing urban density for Gaia is another own-goal.

I agree, however, the “intellectual giants” of the bureaucracy do not have the breadth of actual experience to even think that these are even issues.

Indolent
Indolent
November 18, 2021 9:12 am

ISRAEL HIT WITH COVID BLIZZARD AFTER 3RD DOSE

This is actually a compendium of cases in high vaccination places around the world.

Indolent
Indolent
November 18, 2021 9:20 am

ISRAEL HIT WITH COVID BLIZZARD AFTER 3RD DOSE

I hadn’t watched this to the end before posting it. It’s very badly named. It covers far more than numbers of infections in various places. It covers the whole, ugly picture.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 18, 2021 9:27 am

What a clever little lefty activist.

Margin Call hears that there is the not insubstantial matter of costs relating to constituent and climate activist Michael Staindl’s legal challenge in March last year questioning the Treasurer’s eligibility to sit in the nation’s parliament yet to be ­finalised.

And we’re talking a sum amounting to potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars. Staindl was ordered to pay the costs of the case, but still hasn’t.

Not long ahead of the case being heard, 68-year-old Staindl in November 2019 transferred ownership of his Hawthorn home to his wife Kay Wennagel (The Oz)

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 18, 2021 9:29 am

“While the motion was supported by the Greens and Legalise Cannabis MPs, it had no backing from Labor, the Liberals or the Nationals.”

I thought the Liberals were extinct in Western Australia.

The Liberals were in conference with their peers – unicorns, pixies, and The Coalition of Normal People Who Put Pineapple On Their Pizza.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 18, 2021 9:29 am

WA Bill ‘won’t stop next Juukan Gorge’
Paul Garvey
Senior Reporter
Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
@paigeataylor
8:51PM November 17, 2021
3 Comments

The McGowan government’s long-awaited overhaul of the Western Australian Aboriginal heritage regime has drawn criticism from Indigenous groups amid fears it will not be enough to prevent another Juukan Gorge.

The Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Bill was introduced to the WA parliament on Wednesday, with Labor’s dominant position in both houses of parliament likely to ensure a swift passage into law.

The previous Aboriginal Heritage Act had been under review before Rio Tinto’s destruction of the Juukan Gorge rock-shelters in the Pilbara in May last year, an incident that sparked a global outcry, a parliamentary inquiry and the sacking of Rio Tinto chief executive JS Jacques.

While the new legislation will mark the end of the section 18 mechanism that was used to give Rio Tinto the legal authority to destroy the rock-shelters, it does not give Indigenous groups veto rights for which some traditional owners had been arguing. Instead, the Aboriginal affairs minister will have a final say on disputes, with advice from an Aboriginal cultural heritage council with majority Aboriginal members.

The National Native Title Council, representing traditional owner groups around Australia, objects to the new bill in part because “the minister maintains overriding decision-making power over traditional owners in respect of the protection of their sacred sites in the new bill”.

“Crucially, (it) affords traditional owners no right to review or appeal ministerial approvals to harm sites,” said Jamie Lowe, head of the National Native Title Council. The council said dozens of consents for the destruction of sites of cultural significance had been granted since the destruction of Juukan Gorge.

“The state-­approved destruction of many hundreds of sacred sites in WA demonstrates the discriminatory intent of legislation” Mr Lowe, a Gundjitmara Djabwurrung man, said.

“The legislation purports to preserve Aboriginal cultural heritage and forbids exercise of traditionally held rights to enjoy, manage or bequeath Indigenous cultural heritage.”

Three native title organisations representing Aboriginal people in the Goldfields, midwest and southwest of WA have been pushing to jointly rewrite the bill with government and industry.

“Aboriginal people are not feeling heard on areas of key concern, such as informed consent and the right to say no,” the organisations said in a media release in the days before the bill reached the WA parliament.

Yamatji Noongar woman and Greens senator for WA Dorinda Cox said the bill was a sad day for First Nations people in WA.

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
November 18, 2021 9:32 am

During my wanderings through the inter webs I came across the official advice from TGA which allows individuals to import medications for personal use. Relevant page is here:

https://www.tga.gov.au/personal-importation-scheme

I know it has probably been posted here before but worth reminding anyone who is interested.

Just in case you want access to certain medicines that the government are currently blocking by the usual means.

miltonf
miltonf
November 18, 2021 9:41 am

Anyone have an opinion on 8 Au Limited? Worth taking up their ipo?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 18, 2021 9:44 am

But wouldn’t “white tiles” be waaaacist?

It is the perpetual motion machine of guilt.

When the left discover some new horror perpetrated by straight white males they demand an act of restitution. But that act does not free them of guilt, and the act of restitution is converted into a new horror crying out for justice.

It is an eternally long chain, each link of which adds to the burden of straight white men.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 18, 2021 9:45 am

According to seven news “there will be a change to shopping centres with the rules changing to ban anyone who is unvaccinated from retail stores.”

So single jabbenenated no longer allowed in retail.
I’m thinking that the weekly demonstration is about to get bigger.
Andrews is mad.

Rorschach
Rorschach
November 18, 2021 9:45 am

the official advice from TGA which allows individuals to import medications for personal use.

Ivermectin is sold over the internet in many places. Not sure if you need an prescription…

http://hot-pharm.com/categories/Antibiotics/Stromectol/?id=1978

[Not sure if that will pass customs though!]

Zipster
Zipster
November 18, 2021 9:45 am

“As Australia becomes more multicultural, issues of identity and belonging are becoming more important, and governments can’t afford to ignore them,” he said.

did I miss the referendum on mass migration into Australia?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 18, 2021 9:48 am

I thought the Liberals were extinct in Western Australia.

There is a couple left.

We are trying to make them breed, but the odds are stacked against it.

Rorschach
Rorschach
November 18, 2021 9:49 am

Rittenhouse trial jury deliberations now go in to Day 3.

Saw a tweet by Posso… apparently there are two jurors holding out [want to convict based on threats to their personal safety]. From Day 1 and won’t budge.

Baba
Baba
November 18, 2021 9:55 am

Saw a tweet by Posso… apparently there are two jurors holding out [want to convict based on threats to their personal safety]. From Day 1 and won’t budge.

How would he know that?

Gab
Gab
November 18, 2021 9:58 am

Franx

Yet I wonder at the clergy being so easily put off at being ‘asked’.

Not all priests did as they were asked last Saturday and the Saturday before. 🙂

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 18, 2021 10:05 am

I’m waiting for Herr Andrews to announce that if you have had less than 3 (or maybe 4) jabs then only your postal vote will be accepted.
Postal votes for next years election must be submitted by Thursday, November 11, 2021.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 18, 2021 10:07 am

Sneakers and Chairman Dan doing their best crt bully impression with the help of the ALPBC.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 18, 2021 10:10 am

There is a couple left.
We are trying to make them breed, but the odds are stacked against it.

David Honey kills my boner.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 18, 2021 10:11 am

Totally not a cult.

We are hosting Christmas, but two family members refuse to be Covid vaccinated. What do we do?
Try and persuade these relatives to change their minds, writes advice columnist Eleanor Gordon-Smith, if that does not work you’ll have to choose who to exclude

Basically the VACCINATED, who have had their Faluchi ouchie feel at risk from healthy purebloods.

The comments section is a horrorshow.

So you reckon that people should be able to freeload on the actions of others?
Sort of like turning up to a party without anything to drink, then drinking what everyone else brought.

Have found out her parents are making them both get tested before letting them into their place, which I find quite amusing. I have no time for these stupid, selfish people.

How does having no consequences persuade anyone?

The unvaccinated should not be allowed in your house for Xmas or any other reason.

They are, of course, entitled to their opinion but should be shunned.

And the winner for “If she was a bear being milked for Bile her owner would be a millionaire” goes to.

I hope the LW will tell the unvaccinated people that they aren’t invited. For almost two years, hundreds of millions of us have been subjected to unacceptable risk (and a shut-down world, loss of income, loss of social contact, etc.) because a minority refuses to abide by epidemiologcally sound precautions: masking, social distancing, and now getting vaccinated (and, no, the vaccine wasn’t rushed; it came to market as quickly as it did because scientists around the globe were sharing data *and* because advances in virology over the past 40 years gave those scientists a leg up). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Enough, already, of this grotesquely prolonged returned to some semblance of normality — we still aren’t there yet — all because a certain percentage of the population won’t do its civic duty. To live with others is to acknowledge that their right to safety outweighs your right to absolute freedom; if you’re unwilling to abide by that social contract, then buy a plot of land and live the life of a hermit, off the grid — no sewer service, running water, electricity lines, or any other infrastructure built and maintained by people who understand the trade-off necessary when one lives in society. And no contact with those who make that trade-off. Build your libertarian compounds and see how well that works out for you

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 18, 2021 10:11 am

The Liberals were in conference with their peers – unicorns, pixies, and The Coalition of Normal People Who Put Pineapple On Their Pizza.

The premium pizza topping hate has even spread to YSAC.
I thought he was better than that.

Zatara
Zatara
November 18, 2021 10:16 am

California City Designates Itself ‘Sanctuary City’ Against COVID Mandates

Oroville declares itself a ‘Constitutional Republic City’.

“… this has to do with the large amount of mandates that are affecting every aspect of our lives and our kids’ lives. The American culture and way of life is being challenged at its very core and perverted by radicalized politicians who have forgotten that, as a republic, the power belongs to the people.”

There’s hope for some of California yet.

calli
calli
November 18, 2021 10:18 am

It’s depraved.

It was bound to happen. I’ve seen it in the faces of the best of people – that little, reptilian flicker of fear when the unvaxxed are mentioned.

The evil and cruelty runs deep in us. It only takes the slightest pressure to pop it like a boil.

calli
calli
November 18, 2021 10:22 am

Heh. Just refreshed and this was the Liberty Quote:

The loss of the religious understanding of the human condition—that Man is a fallen creature for whom virtue is necessary but never fully attainable—is a loss, not a gain, in true sophistication. The secular substitute—the belief in the perfection of life on earth by the endless extension of a choice of pleasures—is not merely callow by comparison but much less realistic in its understanding of human nature.

— Theodore Dalrymple

local oaf
November 18, 2021 10:22 am

Ivermectin is sold over the internet in many places. Not sure if you need an prescription…

http://hot-pharm.com/categories/Antibiotics/Stromectol/?id=1978

[Not sure if that will pass customs though!]

I wonder what risks go with trying to order it from overseas.

Could we end up featured in the MSM and ridiculed, smeared as neo nazi, anti-vaxxers?

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 18, 2021 10:24 am

Could we end up featured in the MSM and ridiculed, smeared as neo nazi, anti-vaxxers?

Who cares what other people think?

Rorschach
Rorschach
November 18, 2021 10:25 am

How would he know that?

No idea… But here it is:

https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/1460735255342690311?s=21

Two jurors holding decision up, outright citing backlash, per US Marshal in Kenosha

More: Worried about media leaking their names, what will happen to their families, jobs, etc

Including doxxing threats from ‘anarchist groups’

Zatara
Zatara
November 18, 2021 10:26 am

Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals PERMANENTLY Blocks OSHA COVID-19 Jab Mandate

This court has affirmed it’s earlier stay. However, since there are also proceedings in various other jurisdictions, the overall decision may end up in the hands of another, less honest court

The only court higher than a US Circuit Court of Appeals is SCOTUS. The last thing Biden wants is for them to get a chance to declare his whole circus act unconstitutional.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 18, 2021 10:26 am

The premium pizza topping hate has even spread to YSAC.

No, he treats the pineapple with the indignity it deserves.

He is doing God’s work.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 18, 2021 10:27 am

Do you believe all that Emperor Andrews and his cohort have told you?

No.

Bang! Next.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 18, 2021 10:27 am

ABC breathlessly reporting “Nazis” as the antivaxxers this morning on the radio.
Didnt catch the context but apparently NOT wanting to inject experimental substances into people is the same as Joseph Mengle.. or something… Im so confused.

cohenite
November 18, 2021 10:28 am

Rittenhouse jury: 2 jurors holding up acquittal because of fear from backlash from blm protestors.:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/rittenhouse-verdict-watch/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=7b6c4538-daa5-418b-b1a9-93eee4162e8f

Zatara
Zatara
November 18, 2021 10:31 am

Two jurors holding decision up

Rumour has it that the Jury Foreperson is a major league Karen. Given the demographics of Kenosha I find that quite possible if not likely.

Zipster
Zipster
November 18, 2021 10:33 am

Two jurors holding decision up, outright citing backlash, per US Marshal in Kenosha

scared little sheep

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 18, 2021 10:36 am

We are hosting Christmas, but two family members refuse to be Covid vaccinated. What do we do?
Try and persuade these relatives to change their minds, writes advice columnist Eleanor Gordon-Smith, if that does not work you’ll have to choose who to exclude

There is a good tweet from Zuby about this.

Don’t keep ‘friends’ who will turn on you if the TV or government tells them to.

Gab
Gab
November 18, 2021 10:37 am

I am happy not to mix with the jabbed at Christmas lest I actually get the virus from one of them or may pass the virus onto the jabbed.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 18, 2021 10:40 am

Stupid question: what would have happened if Limbrick doubled down? What are the rules for this sort of stuff?

No one knows? I tried to search, but could find it anything explaining these rules.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 18, 2021 10:41 am

I tried to search, but could find it anything explaining these rules.

Couldn’t, rather.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 10:42 am

I hope the LW will tell the unvaccinated people that they aren’t invited. For almost two years, hundreds of millions of us have been subjected to unacceptable risk (and a shut-down world, loss of income, loss of social contact, etc.) because a minority refuses to abide by epidemiologcally sound precautions: masking, social distancing, and now getting vaccinated (and, no, the vaccine wasn’t rushed; it came to market as quickly as it did because scientists around the globe were sharing data *and* because advances in virology over the past 40 years gave those scientists a leg up). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Enough, already, of this grotesquely prolonged returned to some semblance of normality — we still aren’t there yet — all because a certain percentage of the population won’t do its civic duty. To live with others is to acknowledge that their right to safety outweighs your right to absolute freedom; if you’re unwilling to abide by that social contract, then buy a plot of land and live the life of a hermit, off the grid — no sewer service, running water, electricity lines, or any other infrastructure built and maintained by people who understand the trade-off necessary when one lives in society. And no contact with those who make that trade-off. Build your libertarian compounds and see how well that works out for you

We gave up two years of our lives. We did our ‘civic duty’, we gave up “absolute freedoms” two years ago for these lunatics. Now they’re just salami slicing away at the last residual shreds of dignity we have left: the last vestiges of sovereignty we have: our own bodies.

She’s not talking about a society, she’s talking about a cult.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 18, 2021 10:44 am

As a non-vaxxed I don’t even know how to get to the Grampians. How can I be a NAZI?

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 10:44 am

The Guardian pushes these ‘questions’ and it poisions people’s minds. It gives them permission to unleash the hate publicly.

It’s deliberate, like now calling anyone against the vaccine nazi’s, is deliberate. I bet they’re being fed these strategies, in the pandemic response plans under “managing vaccine hesitancy – the resolute final few”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 18, 2021 10:46 am

Unvaxxed are welcome to use the manger.

cohenite
November 18, 2021 10:47 am

Salty on the Jump Kick Man who actions arguably caused the whole sequence of events in the Rittenhouse trial. Naturally he has an extensive criminal record and being at the blm riot that night broke his probation conditions. Also naturally he has not been charged:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC5cgP_kzYM

If Rittenhouse is convicted I want civil war to break out in the US.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 18, 2021 10:48 am

Brittany Higgins: Ex-Liberal staffer accused of rape to stand trial next year
Adeshola Ore
Reporter
@AdesholaOre
An hour ago November 18, 2021

A trial date has been set for the man accused of raping former Liberal Party staffer Brittany Higgins inside Parliament House in 2019.

Bruce Lehrmann’s trial is scheduled to commence on June 6, 2022 in the ACT Supreme Court and is expected to run for three to four weeks.

Mr Lehrmann, 26, attended the ACT Supreme Court via telephone link on Thursday morning but did not speak during the proceedings.

The former Liberal staffer has indicated he will plead not guilty to one charge of sexual intercourse without consent. He denies he and Ms Higgins had sexual intercourse.

ACT Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold told Registrar Jayne Reece the prosecution’s case was “largely ready to go”.

“I expect our evidence will be around the two-week mark,” he said.

Both parties agreed to the tentative trial date of June 6, subject to confirmation from Mr Lehrmann’s barrister John Korn.

The prosecution and defence had agreed to waive committal proceedings and have the case committed to the Supreme Court by consent to expedite the process.

Mr Lehrmann was summoned to appear in court in August. ACT police allege Mr Lehrmann had sexual intercourse without consent with Ms Higgins at Parliament House on March 23, 2019. The maximum penalty for this offence is 12 years imprisonment.

In February, Ms Higgins alleged she was raped shortly before the 2019 election in the office of then defence industry minister Linda Reynolds.

Mr Lehrmann and Ms Higgins both worked for Senator Reynolds at the time of the alleged rape.

ACT police first received a report of the alleged assault in April 2019, and the investigation remained open until a formal complaint was made in February 2021.

The case will next be mentioned in the ACT Supreme Court on December 16.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 10:51 am

These people are denying me and my children the right to catch the illness and develop natural immunity to it and future mutations, and society herd immunity to it, as every generation of human has done since the dawn of mankind.

These now obviously fake vaccines that don’t even provide immunity to one single strain of it, so requiring re-dosing 2, 3 times a year to protect against the same strain, every year, forever (not to mention the upwards pressure it’s putting on the virus to become deadlier), are ensuring that the virus never mutates downwards or goes away.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 18, 2021 10:53 am

Heh. Just refreshed and this was the Liberty Quote:

The loss of the religious understanding of the human condition—that Man is a fallen creature for whom virtue is necessary but never fully attainable—is a loss, not a gain, in true sophistication. The secular substitute—the belief in the perfection of life on earth by the endless extension of a choice of pleasures—is not merely callow by comparison but much less realistic in its understanding of human nature.

— Theodore Dalrymple

This belongs in Arky’s thread.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 10:56 am

Given that these ‘vaccines’ don’t provide any actual immunity – just ‘reduce the worst symptoms’, by what mechanism do pfizer junkies propose they’ll get off the needles this year, or next year, or the year after, or ever? How does the virus disappear if everyone keeps catching and spreading it but nobody ever actually becomes immune to it?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 18, 2021 10:56 am

Brittany is not the only one claiming to have been fucked by the Lieborals.

lemmiwinks
lemmiwinks
November 18, 2021 10:57 am

The question must be asked (not my material):

If the vax works, what are you worried about?
If the vax doesn’t work, why should I take it?

Gab
Gab
November 18, 2021 11:00 am

just ‘reduce the worst symptoms’,

Is there any actual evidence to support this contention?

cohenite
November 18, 2021 11:01 am

The prosecution got drone video from a company which closed its doors after providing the prosecution with the video meaning the defence could not get a copy of the video. The video is exculpatory, it clearly shows Rittenhouse being attacked and pursued by the creeps he shot. The prosecution withheld this video and when pressed gave a less clear copy which did not exculpate Rittenhouse. This video, beginning at 3.32.10 shows the discussion about a dismissal with prejudice application by the Defence over the prosecution’s with-holding and altering of this crucial evidence. Some of the discussion deals with whether the jury should get it with the Judge agreeing to give it to them. Whatever happens the DA should be disbarred:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAZe7oq1Jn0

Roger
Roger
November 18, 2021 11:01 am

The comments section is a horrorshow.

The social fabric is now threadbare with even families being torn apart.

Well done fear mongering politicians and your weirdo health advisers.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 18, 2021 11:05 am

If the vax works, what are you worried about?
If the vax doesn’t work, why should I take it?

The new line of “thinking” about this, which I heard from our pastor the other day, when he tried to persuade me to get jabbed:

Because we care about people who can’t get vaxed for medical reasons. And if you’re unvaxed they will be at risk.

As if doctors give these exemptions left and right.

On my reply that vaxed can pass on the virus too, he said “but it’s 40 times less likely than the unvaxed”, citing some study.

Tom
Tom
November 18, 2021 11:05 am

David Honey kills my boner.

Please, Humphrey. It’s not that kind of blog.

Delta A
Delta A
November 18, 2021 11:06 am

Sancho Panzer (aka LL) hasn’t posted recently. Hope he’s ok after his vax shot.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 11:08 am

If the vax works, what are you worried about?
If the vax doesn’t work, why should I take it?

It works and doesn’t work both at the exact same time they explain with spittle and rage.

Which is not entirely wrong. The crux of the matter is it’s not a vaccine, they changed the definition of vaccine to hide what these products really are: a marginal short term preventative treatment against one strain of a respiratory illness, that wears off after a few months and requires re-administering again, and again, and again, forever to maintain ‘protection’. Nobody explains what happens when a new completely different strain comes out, what happens then? I separate set of ‘jabs’ for that too? How many ‘jabs’ are people going to be getting?

This is fine for old and sick people, it is absolutely unacceptable for society at large.

Zipster
Zipster
November 18, 2021 11:08 am

Given that these ‘vaccines’ don’t provide any actual immunity – just ‘reduce the worst symptoms’,

unlike every other vaccine ever made. this is clearly not a vaccine. nor do we know exactly what proteins these jabs are creating. why do we not have clear information in what is in the mRNA recipe?

Chris
Chris
November 18, 2021 11:09 am

Don’t keep ‘friends’ who will turn on you if the TV or government tells them to.

Don’t keep a government that tells you to turn against your friends, neighbours or family.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 18, 2021 11:10 am

local oafsays:
November 18, 2021 at 10:22 am

Have you got a garage, if so forward your name with detailed instructions of address or preferably a ball of string leading to ASIO headquarters on Constitution Ave Cantberra. This will save the country a motza and make Mike the Woke look important.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 11:12 am

On my reply that vaxed can pass on the virus too, he said “but it’s 40 times less likely than the unvaxed”, citing some study.

Ireland, Gibraltar, all of Europe right now being clear evidence of that.

I got told 84 times less likely the other day.

These are lies people are telling themselves, literally making them up on the spot, like if you ask what the fatality rate is they’ll say something like 20% because that sounds about right to them.

The “reduces transmission” is so obviously ridiculous now that even the media is barely running that line other than as a word association and ‘this one study suggests’ exercise.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 18, 2021 11:12 am

“managing vaccine hesitancy – the resolute final SOLUTION”.

Also the skin suit pro government Jews need to think about the damage they are causing when they squeal that nothing can even be like how they were victimized by Hitlers mongs.

They were top of his list, but not the only people on the list.

Baba
Baba
November 18, 2021 11:15 am

Nooo!

….. Kory himself got COVID-19 despite taking ivermectin weekly and insisting to the Homeland Security Committee that “if you take it, you will not get sick,”
*******
The sunk cost fallacy can also kick in. When you spend over a year promoting a treatment protocol, forming a group to advocate for it, doing multiple interviews and testifying twice in front of the U.S. Senate, calling ivermectin “a miracle drug against COVID-19” and saying that it “was slaying the Delta variant,” you have invested a lot of your identity in defending this drug. You identify with an idea—that ivermectin absolutely works against COVID-19—and not with a process—the scientific quest to evaluate if ivermectin works against COVID-19. Publicly backtracking on this notion when the results of the process refute your idea requires a very large dose of humility. As Kory tweeted, he has “blown up” his career “because history demanded it.” The cost he has sunk into this is tremendous.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 18, 2021 11:16 am

For those of you who haven’t experienced myocarditis, there is a movie called Alien that you should watch.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 18, 2021 11:16 am

Dan announced that unvaxed are not allowed in retail from midnight.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 18, 2021 11:19 am

Nobody explains what happens when a new completely different strain comes out, what happens then? I separate set of ‘jabs’ for that too? How many ‘jabs’ are people going to be getting?

Don’t expect an explanation, join the end of the farque to enjoy the stroll for the next shot of courage. Don’t worry about the lack of backbone as a side effect, we have another new vaccine for that , just slide over there for your next shot.

Baba
Baba
November 18, 2021 11:21 am

John of Melsays:
November 18, 2021 at 11:16 am
Dan announced that unvaxed are not allowed in retail from midnight.

Palaszczuk, “Hold my beer.”

mizaris
mizaris
November 18, 2021 11:22 am

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

Apparently calling diktator dan a bat eared mong gets you barred from fakebook for 24hours. But cnut, fvckface, dikhead, moron, coward, bully, liar, communist, thief are all ok.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 11:22 am

People have so invested in covid, and accepted and given up so much over the last two years, they cannot walk away from it without a huge Hollywood style dramatic final ending, “And then the brave scientists sped their vaccine to the populations who obediently and thankfully rolled their sleeves up and accepted their ‘civic duty’ at whatever the cost”. Cue montage of everyman farmers and factor workers and simple folk and city sophisticates gratefully sitting at vaccine centres while the war torn hero scientist stares off into the sunset with tears of relief in xir eyes.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 18, 2021 11:28 am

Cue montage of everyman farmers and factor workers and simple folk and city sophisticates gratefully sitting at vaccine centres while the war torn hero scientist stares off into the sunset with tears of relief in xir eyes.

What we will most likely get is this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPCLNOzXyuQ

Zipster
Zipster
November 18, 2021 11:29 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 18, 2021 11:32 am

For those of you who haven’t experienced myocarditis, there is a movie called Alien that you should watch.

And the thing on the face was a politician. CMO’s on the other hand like to collect skulls of people. You can hide from them by covering yourself with mud. I saw that in another movie.

Chris
Chris
November 18, 2021 11:32 am

David Honey kills my boner.

Please, Humphrey. It’s not that kind of blog.

He is my bloody Member (phrasing), so I am familiar with the effect. Notice too, that his pictures look awfully like Malcolm Trumble.

OTOH I phoned his office before the election and got some pleasant old-codger-sounding person who was entirely unsurprised to hear from a former rusted-on Liberal voter.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 18, 2021 11:32 am

For those of you who haven’t experienced myocarditis, there is a movie called Alien that you should watch.

Oh no, not again…

Pete of Perth
Pete of Perth
November 18, 2021 11:34 am

Greeted today with a company wide email from the head honcho. Vaccx required to work onsite from Jan 1st. Health n Safety. I new it was on the cards when they surveyed the workforce about a month ago.

Pete of Perth
Pete of Perth
November 18, 2021 11:34 am

Greeted today with a company wide email from the head honcho. Vaccx required to work onsite from Jan 1st. Health n Safety. I new it was on the cards when they surveyed the workforce about a month ago

Vicki
Vicki
November 18, 2021 11:37 am

Dan announced that unvaxed are not allowed in retail from midnight.

OMG! The guy has gone completely satanic. Somebody take him away for treatment.

No food or medicine for the unvaxed??????

srr
srr
November 18, 2021 11:39 am

China Tried to Pay me to Lie about Covid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djXYBU1T-Ek

Nov 18, 2021
serpentza

Vicki
Vicki
November 18, 2021 11:40 am

John of Mel says:
November 18, 2021 at 11:16 am
Dan announced that unvaxed are not allowed in retail from midnight.

LINK?????

Gab
Gab
November 18, 2021 11:41 am

On my reply that vaxed can pass on the virus too, he said “but it’s 40 times less likely than the unvaxed”, citing some study.

That study has now be revoked due to falsification of results.

Zipster
Zipster
November 18, 2021 11:41 am

China Tried to Pay me to Lie about Covid

all roads lead to china

Roger
Roger
November 18, 2021 11:41 am

At 80% vaxxed all Victorians could enter retail outlets.

At 90% vaxxed the unvaccinated can’t.

Can anyone explain the science?

Dot
Dot
November 18, 2021 11:44 am

COVID theatre will end on a RAAF Base. Our brave scienticians will play varying melodies of just four notes, whilst civilians and military officers return to smiling families.

COVID will leave not as an enemy of mankind and have a greater understanding of our solar system.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 18, 2021 11:45 am

diktator dan is a bat eared mong
diktator dan is a bat eared mong
diktator dan is a bat eared mong

Winston Smith
November 18, 2021 11:45 am

rickw:

I hope it gives Andrews the aneurism he so richly deserves.

Why?
What have you got against D.A’s aneurysm?
It deserves to fulfill it’s potential as an aneurysm and explode like…
OK.
You have a point.
As you were.

Dot
Dot
November 18, 2021 11:46 am

The science changed, Roger.

Now, PV = nRT?

Nope.

It is whatever His Unholiness Bat Eared Mongo days.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 18, 2021 11:48 am

China Tried to Pay me to Lie about Covid

Apparently there’s quite an outbreak of despicable delta in China right now, which isn’t surprising since it’s been colder than average there in the last month or two.

What would not help Mr Xi’s life expectancy is for it to become widely known that he is responsible for the virus, due to the biowarfare program at the Wuhan lab. The proles might become even more aggro than usual. So no surprise they’re going all out to try to pin it on anyone else they can.

Dot
Dot
November 18, 2021 11:49 am

says, not days!

Damned iPad!

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 18, 2021 11:50 am

Vicki Johnson is right!

Intervention is required.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 18, 2021 11:52 am

Dan probably thinks that Intervention is another treatment that needs to be banned.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 11:52 am

At 80% vaxxed all Victorians could enter retail outlets.

At 90% vaxxed the unvaccinated can’t.

Can anyone explain the science?

You have to look under ‘Behavioural Science’, the bit about demagogues, ginned up mobs and group think.

Roger
Roger
November 18, 2021 11:54 am

So no surprise they’re going all out to try to pin it on anyone else they can.

Early on it was a family owned Queensland beef exporter.

Their sales – almost exclusively to Wuhan -tanked overnight and product was left on the wharves.

Winston Smith
November 18, 2021 11:54 am

Rex:

4) I have not had Anchovette fish paste on toast in a very long time, and now I have cravings.

It’s available in our local IGA, but not the Pepper Steak variety … and believe me I’ve looked for it.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 11:55 am

At 40% vaccinated Queenslander were 100% free.

At 50% we got locked into the state, at 60% masks became mandatory inside, at 80% unvaccinated people are getting banned from life.

Does anybody notice a trend here? Mcfly!?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 18, 2021 11:57 am

Hmm. Methinks dethpickable just nuked 10% of potential votes.
He will need to stop this 10% from voting*.

* Not that vote counts mean much these days.

Woolfe
Woolfe
November 18, 2021 12:02 pm

No doubt the ACT prosecutor already has a sperm sample harvested from the accused.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 18, 2021 12:03 pm

LINK?????

Here it is, Vicki

“You will be able to go back to normal,” Premier Daniel Andrews told reporters on Thursday.

“Victoria, like nowhere else in the country, has earned these freedoms.”

Non-essential retail will join the state’s vaccinated economy, meaning only fully vaccinated people can visit shops unless they are aged under 12 years and two months or have a valid exemption.

srr
srr
November 18, 2021 12:04 pm

twostixsays:
November 18, 2021 at 11:22 am

People have so invested in covid, and accepted and given up so much over the last two years, they cannot walk away from it without a huge Hollywood style dramatic final ending, “And then the brave scientists sped their vaccine to the populations who obediently and thankfully rolled their sleeves up and accepted their ‘civic duty’ at whatever the cost”. Cue montage of everyman farmers and factor workers and simple folk and city sophisticates gratefully sitting at vaccine centres while the war torn hero scientist stares off into the sunset with tears of relief in xir eyes.

Yep, for decades I’ve found myself having to explain to people, whether in academia, law, medicine, policing, politics, diplomacy, religion, media, IT, farming, whatever, that, “It’s NOT like in the movies.”

Then I find that that’s where they are stuck, even when they are lawyers mouthing, “It’s not like in the movies.”, they’re still behaving like Breaking Bad’s Saul, Lawyer X being a classic example.

It’s as if everyone has been so brainwashed by Hollywood/MS & Social Media Propaganda that they’re incapable of feeling their lives are fulfilled unless they are playing some key Hollywood role.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 18, 2021 12:10 pm

How amazingly amazing!

Repurposing a familiar drug for COVID-19 (17 Nov)

In the retrospective study, published Oct. 28 in PLOS ONE, patients taking disulfiram for alcoholism were less likely to become infected with SARS-CoV-2, and those who did get infected were less likely to die from COVID-19 than those not taking the drug.

The researchers caution that since the study was observational, it cannot establish a cause-and-effect link between disulfiram and disease development. However, they say, the results are encouraging enough to warrant further study and clinical testing. The precise mechanism of the drug against SARS-CoV-2 is not yet known, but researchers have hypothesized that it may prevent the virus from taking hold by interfering with an enzyme it requires to replicate. Additionally, disulfiram may blunt the symptoms of severe COVID-19 by inhibiting a protein involved in hyperinflammation. … One possibility is that the drug inhibits a key protease that SARS-CoV-2 needs in order to replicate, thus preventing the virus from proliferating inside cells. “That’s a plausible mechanism, but it must be confirmed with further research. It’s a work in progress,” Sander said.

I wonder if there are any other pharmaceuticals which have anti-protease and anti-inflammatory properties? Like maybe ivermectin and asprin? Ah well I suppose disulfiram will be immediately banned by the TGA so it’s a moot point.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 18, 2021 12:10 pm

shatterzzz says:
November 18, 2021 at 7:49 am

If you only read one news story today .. make it this one ……!
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2021/11/17/victims-honored-on-the-catwalk-at-israels-miss-holocaust-survivor/

That was great, shatterzz. Lovely tough old ladies having fun.

Zipster
Zipster
November 18, 2021 12:10 pm

it’s a mystery

Nearly 10,000 more people have died than usual since July from NON-Covid illnesses as experts demand urgent investigation into whether NHS delays from lockdown were to blame
Office for National Statistics data showed there were 20,823 more deaths than average since July
But only 11,531 involved Covid, meaning there were 9,292 deaths from other diseases
Experts called for an urgent investigation and said that delays to NHS care could be to blame

mizaris
mizaris
November 18, 2021 12:11 pm

diktator dan is a bat eared mong
diktator dan is a bat eared mong
diktator dan is a bat eared mong

Nah…only works for fakebook. How many people is the bat eared mong paying to scour fakebook pages for “hate”?? Not to worry though – other people’s money.

Roger
Roger
November 18, 2021 12:12 pm

Keeping to well-trodden paths, the Austrians have imposed a lockdown on the unvaccinated, who since Monday are only allowed to leave their homes for work, to buy essential supplies or exercise.

There will be heavy consequences for those who otherwise venture out without the necessary papieren.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 18, 2021 12:13 pm

Jabben macht frei

Indolent
Indolent
November 18, 2021 12:15 pm

According to seven news “there will be a change to shopping centres with the rules changing to ban anyone who is unvaccinated from retail stores.”

Lithuania here we come.

Roger
Roger
November 18, 2021 12:18 pm

Jabben macht frei

You beat me to it, inco.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 18, 2021 12:18 pm

Rummaging around Worldmeters some countries have gone full on test happy.
Denmark rules with 15,396,376 tests per million population.
Our 1,773,886 per makes us look like either slackers
or hard, pipe hitting Tip Top delivery drivers.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 12:20 pm

The vaccine is the channel through which this tyranny flows.

People accept it, then a large portion of that group go on to accept anything. Because comparatively any subsequent demand or request is minor compared to reluctantly handing control over your body over to the people in power. Physical actions define thoughts, that is why public loyalty rituals have always been critical in any post revolutionary time.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 18, 2021 12:20 pm

I think sake is boring and only one step up from vodka in the tastelessness stakes, but other Cats may disagree.

World’s oldest guide to brewing sake receives first English translation (17 Nov)

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 18, 2021 12:23 pm

only one step up from vodka in the tastelessness stakes,

No one, absolutely no one, drinks vodka for taste.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 12:24 pm

“You will be able to go back to normal,” Premier Daniel Andrews told reporters on Thursday.

“Victoria, like nowhere else in the country, has earned these freedoms.”

Non-essential retail will join the state’s vaccinated economy, meaning only fully vaccinated people can visit shops unless they are aged under 12 years and two months or have a valid exemption.

This is exactly the doubleplusgood way that QLD announced ours.

So unvaccinated people in QLD (including the soon booster refusers) – at 90% this is what you’re going to get. It is a playbook that they’re operating off.

Vicki
Vicki
November 18, 2021 12:25 pm

Non-essential retail will join the state’s vaccinated economy, meaning only fully vaccinated people can visit shops unless they are aged under 12 years and two months or have a valid exemption.

John of Mel : My reading of this is that the unvaccinated will still be able to access ESSENTIAL RETAIL (e.g. supermarkets/pharmacies etc). Granted, the reference to “only fully vaccinated people can visit shops” is confusing.

If he really intends to stop people from eating or accessing basic medication…..then he in loony territory ….even Austria is allowing people to eat!

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 12:27 pm

Also Scott Morrison is 100% supportive of all of this.

No Jab / No Pay / Play was his personal pet project, he himself removed the last lawful reasons not to get vaccines outside of imminent-death, from the Commonwealth law.

He personally supports all of this.

Baba
Baba
November 18, 2021 12:27 pm

that is why public loyalty rituals have always been critical in any post revolutionary time.

That and vaccine passports. Sorry, I mean party membership cards.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 12:27 pm

If he really intends to stop people from eating or accessing basic medication…..then he in loony territory ….even Austria is allowing people to eat!

Not for ever…

Vicki
Vicki
November 18, 2021 12:27 pm

According to seven news “there will be a change to shopping centres with the rules changing to ban anyone who is unvaccinated from retail stores.”

Wow! Maybe I am wrong – he really DOES mean to starve out the unvaccinated! Warsaw Ghetto here we come!

areff
areff
November 18, 2021 12:29 pm

I have not had Anchovette fish paste on toast in a very long time

Coles always has it in stock (at least at my local store). Indeed, only this week, it was a marked-down bargain at half price.

Not only good on toast, the anchovy paste is a useful addition to pretty much any recipe. Liquify it with your onions and garlic in a frypan and it serves as a natural substitute for flavour-enhancing MSG.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 18, 2021 12:30 pm

Who do I believe, this person or my lying ears?

Study suggests face masks do not muddle speech perception (17 Nov)

She’s a she, so I’m not surprised. Women can hear something they dislike whispered in a soundproofed room over a mile away.

(I endlessly get in trouble handing over money in the supermarket as fifty and sixty are very hard to distinguish if uttered through a mask.)

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 18, 2021 12:31 pm

Victoria, like nowhere else in the country, has earned these freedoms.

Just ran it through the pollispeak translate app:
Got bored with dorking you up the squeekhole, have a cookie.

Gab
Gab
November 18, 2021 12:32 pm

The Anchovette Paste of late is not so much a paste consistency, it’s more like a runny gloop. Most off-putting.

Baba
Baba
November 18, 2021 12:32 pm

Can anyone explain the science?

Spite is scientific discipline? Am I getting warm?

Vicki
Vicki
November 18, 2021 12:34 pm

Even after examining the Channel 7 report, I am still unclear whether it is a blanket rule on retail or whether the clumsy government news release has confused everyone.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 18, 2021 12:35 pm

My reading of this is that the unvaccinated will still be able to access ESSENTIAL RETAIL (e.g. supermarkets/pharmacies etc).

Thankfully they are not banning us from buying groceries (yet). By retail they mean non-groceries shops.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 18, 2021 12:38 pm

According to seven news “there will be a change to shopping centres with the rules changing to ban anyone who is unvaccinated from retail stores.”

Waar’s jou pass?

Winston Smith
November 18, 2021 12:38 pm

Shatterzzz:

If you only read one news story today .. make it this one ……!
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2021/11/17/victims-honored-on-the-catwalk-at-israels-miss-holocaust-survivor/

I think it’s tacky and the bloke running it probably made a mint.
BUT.
The contestants volunteered and felt it worthwhile so I applaud their intent.
There’s obviously a lot of background not covered.

rosie
rosie
November 18, 2021 12:38 pm

Essential services in Victoria eg supermarket post office pharmacy is still available to status unknown persons.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 18, 2021 12:39 pm

If what purports to be a parcel delivery service run by Australia Post worked I would happily be banned from shops.

Indolent
Indolent
November 18, 2021 12:41 pm

These people are denying me and my children the right to catch the illness and develop natural immunity to it and future mutations, and society herd immunity to it, as every generation of human has done since the dawn of mankind.

Quite possibly you already have natural immunity which is (or was) apparently at around 80% in the population. Of course, we don’t know what effect the vaccines have had on this.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 18, 2021 12:44 pm

Can an entire country get RDS? Why yes, it can.

Barbados axing the Queen as head of state spells trouble for Britain (17 Nov)

Virtual visas: Barbados says to open first ‘metaverse’ embassy (17 Nov)

Maybe they should go back to playing cricket. They used to be quite good at it.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 12:44 pm

Victorian Freedom:

The state’s mask mandate will still apply in certain circumstances, including in retail until next month.
Masks will still be required in indoor retail settings, for primary school staff, visitors and for students in grades 3 to 6, for visitors and select workers in hospitals or care facilities, as well as for people using public transport, taxi/rideshare and planes.
Retail customers will no longer need to wear masks after December 15 – in line with New South Wales’ restrictions, providing the state’s hospitals are not overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients.

Your primary school students have been muzzled???

You all kept that well under wraps!

Winston Smith
November 18, 2021 12:44 pm

Zipster:

Prosecutors withheld Exculpatory Evidence from Rittenhouse defense team..

there has been a complete breakdown in law and order

It’s not complete. Not yet.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 18, 2021 12:45 pm

incoherent ramblersays:
November 18, 2021 at 11:45 am
diktator dan is a bat eared mong
diktator dan is a bat eared mong
diktator dan is a bat eared mong

Do Dah,Do Dah.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 18, 2021 12:46 pm

I think it’s tacky

Sure, but if some tough old ladies who survived the holocaust enjoyed themselves I don’t care how tacky it was. 🙂

Zipster
Zipster
November 18, 2021 12:48 pm

diktator dan is a bat eared mong
diktator dan is a bat eared mong
diktator dan is a bat eared mong

wonder what the mong’s wife thinks of that honeypot the chairman gifted him…

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 12:48 pm

NSW December 15, Victoria December 15, QLD December 17.

It’s about science not about behavioural psychology or bog standard retail politics.

Bons
November 18, 2021 12:49 pm

Sky’s extensive expose on China aggression last evening raised a factor that I had never considered but has ‘end of days’ implications for the West.
It was argued that the CCP is determined to capture the Taiwanese microchip industry.
They manufacture 80% of the world’s chips using processes so advanced that they cannot be replicated in the short term.
Security is apparently so sophisticated that they have resisted constant agressive CCP espionage.
It makes one so grateful that we have one former PM earning 30 pieces of CCP silver, another psychopath supporting them to spite Murdoch and the LNP, and yet another ex-PM psychopathic narcissit who will support anyone in order to piss on the Government.
It’s all good though, ain’t it ASIO.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 12:49 pm

Perhaps Victorians protested their way into slightly better terms of ‘freedom’ today.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 18, 2021 12:50 pm

Victorian Freedom:

Daily reminder.

This does not apply to prisoners.
They are not required to have the jabs even though they are 100% the responsibility of the respective state governments.
https://www.corrections.vic.gov.au/covid19

Prisoner vaccination rates
Total vaccination rates as at 15 November 2021

The prisoner vaccination rate is 62 percent.
The rates represent the percentage of people in prison who have been fully vaccinated as part of the department’s onsite vaccination program. The vaccination program is focusing on the facilities that accept new arrivals, where predominantly unvaccinated people are entering the prison system from the community every day.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 18, 2021 12:55 pm

This does not apply to prisoners. They are not required to have the jabs even though they are 100% the responsibility of the respective state governments.

Translation into pollie: crims have distressingly bad self control, as well as a really mysterious ability to obtain prohibited firearms.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 12:56 pm

Showing that protests probably are useful once they gather a critical mass. Which in the first instance requires a core set of ideological activists / ‘loonies’ – as some in this place like to disparage them, to be turning up each week slowly carving out a space in the public’s minds that the protestors exist. Then learning and teaching the interested public how to do protesting when they finally show up. When the moment is right, the entire thing flows and tangible political power is created.

The left have been doing this for a century, they literally teach it to each other in our universities, it’s not something you can turn up and do. The right have badly neglected politics.

twostix
twostix
November 18, 2021 1:01 pm

This does not apply to prisoners.
They are not required to have the jabs even though they are 100% the responsibility of the respective state governments.

That’s because it’s highly illegal, immoral and dangerous (for themselves), for a government to force people to get a medical procedure directly en-masse.

They’d love to. Oh how they would love to order the police to hold people down and inject them, but all that stuff last century and laws and things that were brought in after, they don’t dare yet. Which is why they engage in this game of mandating / not madating via their fascistic control of businesses.

By this time next year however….

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 18, 2021 1:05 pm

twostixsays:
November 18, 2021 at 12:56 pm

You may have read it, but Taleb describes exactly what you are saying as why the intolerant minority always win.
https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15

So the same illusion exists in political discussions, spread by the political “scientists”: you think that because some extreme right or left wing party has, say, the support of ten percent of the population that their candidate would get ten percent of the votes. No: these baseline voters should be classified as “inflexible” and will always vote for their faction. But some of the flexible voters can also vote for that extreme faction, just as nonKosher people can eat Kosher, and these people are the ones to watch out for as they may swell the numbers of votes for the extreme party. Galam’s models produced a bevy of counterintuitive effects in political science –and his predictions turned out to be way closer to real outcomes than the naive consensus.

Rabz
November 18, 2021 1:08 pm

FFS, Morristeen is a vile expedient sack of shit. I see he’s given that fat stupid slag in Queensland a serve about the medical segregation going on there from 17 December, yet he presumably hasn’t done the same to that repulsive little queen in NSW, where the situation is even more intolerable and ridiculous.

Disgusting fascist scum all of them, they deserve to be set upon by a very large and angry pitchfork and torch wielding mob.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 18, 2021 1:22 pm

Prosecutors withheld Exculpatory Evidence from Rittenhouse defense team..
there has been a complete breakdown in law and order

It’s not complete. Not yet.

It’s not complete till the shooting starts. See: Beirut.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 18, 2021 1:23 pm

Disgusting fascist scum all of them, they deserve to be set upon by a very large and angry pitchfork and torch wielding mob.

It has to happen one day. Can’t come too soon.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 18, 2021 1:24 pm

I quite enjoyed life as a citizen of the former Commonwealth of Australia.

Cassie of Sydney
November 18, 2021 1:24 pm

“The right have badly neglected politics.”

Indeed…and when they do weigh in, they’re hopeless at it.

Roger
Roger
November 18, 2021 1:25 pm

The right have badly neglected politics.

While the right have been assuming they hold the middle ground as their birth right it’s been shifted leftwards under their their noses and often with their complicity.

Case in point, where was the IPA when the Senate (with the exception of PHON senators) dealt out the Alinsky treatment = “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it -” to Bettina Arndt?

It’s all very well to have a nice website and address well-heeled members only functions but you’re only preaching to the choir.

Winston Smith
November 18, 2021 1:33 pm

Zipster:

did I miss the referendum on mass migration into Australia?

We all missed the referendum on mass immigration into Australia.

Cassie of Sydney
November 18, 2021 1:35 pm

“Case in point, where was the IPA when the Senate (with the exception of PHON senators) dealt out the Alinsky treatment = “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it -” to Bettina Arndt?”

It’s worse than that…when asked to support Arndt, they declined.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 18, 2021 1:35 pm

I think sake is boring and only one step up from vodka in the tastelessness stakes, but other Cats may disagree.

Sake is magnificent.

Thing is that you may have had cheap sake. In Australia the palate is less discerning so there is not much market for an expensive sake. Most people only drink it in restaurants as a sort of role playing, and then they usually drink it warm because that is the novelty they remember it for.

I had a Japanese friend who had noted my rhapsodising over wines and volunteered to take me to taste some sake. I had tried low level sakes unaware that there was much of a scale of quality.

She took me to a little shop about 100m from where I was living, and ordered 6 cups – what we would call a ‘flight’, I suppose. She bade me take a few sips from each, letting it swirl in my mouth and saturate my breath when I exhaled.

Holy Sheet!

There were passionfruit flavours, pear, honey, and a range of aromas, of mouthfeel etc. All served cool (not cold, definitely not chilled, and absolutely positively not warm.)

My level of pretentiousness now has me sticking to daiginjo, and of those preferring junmai daiginjo. One of the rules for these is that the outer layers of the rice grain is removed by polishing so they only use the innermost 50% where it is purest and least effected by external conditions.

Holy cow – I am rhapsodising again!

local oaf
November 18, 2021 1:35 pm

Barbados axing the Queen as head of state spells trouble for Britain (17 Nov)

Maybe they’ve had a good look at Charlie and decided to get out now!

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 18, 2021 1:36 pm

It’s all very well to have a nice website and address well-heeled members only functions but you’re only preaching to the choir.

There’s been lots of preaching by the IPA and others here. But the only actions have been the protests.

Winston Smith
November 18, 2021 1:40 pm

The Frollicking Moll:

. . Enough, already, of this grotesquely prolonged returned to some semblance of normality — we still aren’t there yet — all because a certain percentage of the population won’t do its civic duty. To live with others is to acknowledge that their right to safety outweighs your right to absolute freedom; if you’re unwilling to abide by that social contract, then buy a plot of land and live the life of a hermit, off the grid — no sewer service, running water, electricity lines, or any other infrastructure built and maintained by people who understand the trade-off necessary when one lives in society. And no contact with those who make that trade-off. Build your libertarian compounds and see how well that works out for you

This is the mindset that brought us the Concentration Camps and the Gulags.

amortiser
amortiser
November 18, 2021 1:40 pm

sfw, good link on ivermectin. I look forward to responses by concerned parties.

After endeavouring to cast himself as a dispassionate scientist reviewing the available data and trials, the author described Pierre Kory as the “Spiritual leader of the Ivermectin Jihad.”

Yes, I read the whole thing. Kory has treated hundreds if not thousands of patients with Covid and this guy not a one yet he dismisses Kory with such a pejorative description.

I suggest you judge his contribution with that in mind.

Zipster
Zipster
November 18, 2021 1:47 pm

all because a certain percentage of the population won’t do its civic duty. To live with others is to acknowledge that their right to safety outweighs your right to absolute freedom

absolute freedom? civic duty? the groupthink here reeks of stupid

Aaron
Aaron
November 18, 2021 1:49 pm

“Given that these ‘vaccines’ don’t provide any actual immunity – just ‘reduce the worst symptoms’”

Like a footballer taking painkillers.

Usually ends up with more damage.

shatterzzz
November 18, 2021 1:49 pm

From the butter wouldn’t melt in my mouth file .. BRADBURY reinforces his, “I don’t lie” .. LOL!
“We’re a civil peaceful society. [When] we have disagreements, we don’t handle them with violence … there can be no tolerance for that.”
Not a word from him when Danistan Stasi were battering the vote-herd and pepper-spraying, knocked down, grannie’s, body slammin’ innocent folk on railway platforms etc .. but one mock, minature, gallows at a protest against STAIRMAN DAN and suddenly .. we is all a threat to peaceful gummint ..
For his next emotive outpouring I’m expecting his vote winning favourite ..!
WE IS ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, except .. LOL!

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