2,702 thoughts on “Open Thread – Mon 29 Nov 2021”

  1. Quarantines amd various Emergency Acts always were and are a State purview. Before any Federal legislation to harmonise or deal with international requirements (i.e. international port and airport arrivals) get brought in.

    This is why the National Cabinet exists. To harmonise the States’responses with the Feds and their various legal requirements. In a Struth-level explanation: “To stop everyone stepping on each others’ toes, mate!”

    That this has never, ever been adequately explained to anyone is an indictment on our Education system and the media.

    The PM is not a US President, with direct involvement and final veto power or his own legislative enacting capability through Executive Orders. We understand their system better than ours, due to the power of Pop Culture.


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  2. The only time the Federal Government can involve itself (s.51 Powers) is where a State’s planned or enacted activity will interfere with a Federal responsibility (e.g. Defence) or something that is internationally binding.

    So the Universal Declaration of human rights doesn’t fit under the this condition?


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  3. Clive Palmer is looking to challenge Andrews Pandemic Bill in court, he’ll take it all the way, using his own money. Now I know a lot here despise him but he is about the only one doing anything about it and using his own money. So tell me again how bad he is.


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  4. The only time the Federal Government can involve itself (s.51 Powers) is where a State’s planned or enacted activity will interfere with a Federal responsibility (e.g. Defence) or something that is internationally binding.

    Then BRADBURY should have no trouble invalidating Stairman Dan’s Pandemic Bill .. after all, the 1st duty of the Federal gummint is ensuring fairness, well-being & security of the of ALL the people regardless of gummint segregationary acts ..!
    ‘course, BRADBURY growing a big enuf pair to act may be the more problematic issue here .. LOL!


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  5. Clive Palmer is looking to challenge Andrews Pandemic Bill in court, he’ll take it all the way, using his own money. Now I know a lot here despise him but he is about the only one doing anything about it and using his own money. So tell me again how bad he is.

    Challenging this bill thru ALL the courts is REALLY WHY we payz BRADBURY big bucks! This shouldn’t be up to Cloive & his wallet to follow thru ……. FFS!


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  6. Clive Palmer is looking to challenge Andrews Pandemic Bill in court, he’ll take it all the way, using his own money. Now I know a lot here despise him but he is about the only one doing anything about it and using his own money. So tell me again how bad he is.

    Is there a link, sfw? This could be awesome if true because we know the Slomo will do nothing to protect the rights of Victorians.


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  7. So the Universal Declaration of human rights doesn’t fit under the this condition?

    No. Regardless of its ratification status in Parliament, that is a figleaf/bureaucratic compliance statement like the Victorian Human Rights Bill. I.E. “This Act complies with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by…”

    Remember that the Tasmanian Dams case was predicated on a UN Treaty obligation. And really it was a stretch to justify it.

    The Belt and Road Bill was canned under some other assessment of being an international sovereign risk. Like if a State tried to contract Huawei for some big IT job.

    Or if WA enacted some legislation that would screw with SA and the NT. It could be struck down by Canberra under s.51 if WA refused to amend it.


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  8. Or if WA enacted some legislation that would screw with SA and the NT. It could be struck down by Canberra under s.51 if WA refused to amend it.
    Hasn’t WA already screwed with all the other States? Certainly their people.


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  9. Screw it.

    Sick of the sleepless nights.

    I was in the local IGA a couple of months ago, and happen to overhear a couple of the checkout chicks. As they walked past I heard one say “Aut cum scuto, aut in scuto”*. And it occurred to me that when you want to sound erudite in English, you sprinkle in some Latin. But when the Romans wanted to seem well educated, the sprinkled in Greek.

    So what did the Greeks sprinkle their language with when they wanted to seem clever?

    Or did the pompous old sodomites think that to sound clever in Greek it was enough to be speaking Greek already.

    Phtt!

    Typical. Lolling about on their couches leering at the the serving boys who had long since marked out which slobbering old fool was going to be their ticket to the big time.

    *A Latin rendition of a Spartan expression where women would beg their sons marching to battle to return “with your shield, or upon it”, either carrying it in victory or being carried as one of the noble slain. Romans would doubtless have used the Greek language version.


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  10. Meanwhile in the Territory:

    A MAJOR Crimes Unit investigation is looking into the source of the latest cluster after a woman in her 70s, who was hospitalised with Covid-19, passed away.

    Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker said confirmed police were involved and would be investigating potential criminal charges relating to a breach of Chief Health Officer directions.

    “It appeared to be the seed that started the spread of Covid within the Northern Territory and as such major crime any undertaking an investigation,” Mr Chalker said.

    Mr Chalker would not disclose the scope or the identities of anyone who may become part of the investigation.

    “We will now investigate to identify what the causation may have been that ultimately led to Covid being contracted by the lady that passed away last night, and whether there’s any criminality in relation to that.”

    “Suffice to say that the Northern Territory community can be satisfied that the Northern Territory Police are investigating the causation and links.”


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  11. A MAJOR Crimes Unit investigation is looking into the source of the latest cluster after a woman in her 70s

    For God’s sake, man!

    What more will it take to convince people of the urgency of injecting 5-year olds!


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  12. Hasn’t WA already screwed with all the other States? Certainly their people.

    But still within the limitations of its own State Constitution and laws and the Australian one.

    If you were to take WA to court or raise its issues in Federal Parliament, you would need a Constitutional Lawyer to go through the 8 pieces of legislation that contain the bits of WA’s Constitution (it isn’t a discrete document), then compare it with the Australian one, then look at every preceding case involving the WA Constitution to see how a particular clause was argued (because they will need to be struck down by the court fornthis case to succeed), then prove ultra vires and/or an objective wrong done to the neighbouring States.

    This is no mere Castle case, and extremely expensive. And it assumes your Court or Parliamentary Inquiry does not dismiss it put of hand because your homework is incomplete.

    Arguing against the Emergency Act as in place and permitted under WA law on the subjective basis of (justifiably) angry people not allowed to come.in or go out will not fly in a court or Parliamentary debate.


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  13. Or if WA enacted some legislation that would screw with SA and the NT. It could be struck down by Canberra under s.51 if WA refused to amend it.

    ahem..
    https://auspublaw.org/2020/09/clive-palmer-takes-a-sovereign-risk-challenging-the-authority-of-wa-parliament/
    On 13 August 2020, the Western Australian Parliament amended the Mineralogy State Agreement (referred to by commentators as the ‘Palmer Act’). The Palmer Act abolishes the rights of particular companies and persons (the rights of Mineralogy Pty Ltd, International Minerals Pty Ltd and Clive Palmer as a director of Mineralogy) to seek damages for an alleged breach of a State Agreement term, namely, the State Development Minister’s (Colin Barnett’s) 2012 failure to approve the Balmoral South Iron Ore Project development proposal (‘Balmoral mine’). Mr Palmer’s statement that the legislation is ‘draconian and disgraceful’ was joined by commentators who have described the Act as ‘an outrageous abuse of power’ that ‘violates fundamental legal principles’. The WA Law Society stated that the new law departs from the ‘rule of law’, which entails that ‘all people whatever their status are subject to the ordinary law of the land. Departure from that principle has the capacity to affect the foundation of our democracy’. While the Act is unusual, it is within the power of the state legislature to acquire property rights including rights to a cause of action without compensation.


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  14. While the Act is unusual, it is within the power of the state legislature to acquire property rights including rights to a cause of action without compensation.

    This was within the bounds of WA’s Law, and so, they took it. Despite making themselves look foolish and petty in the process.

    Furthermore, Clive still retains the capacity to pop up again in a different hat (I.E. A new $2 Proprietary Limited Company) and be a legal nuisance at his leisure.


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  15. Is there anyone more despicable that a White Reporter. FMD, they’re awful scumbags.

    Get a load of this vs the way the scum treated the previous female. I have to keep repeating it. They’re just fucking detestable.

    https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1466125357631741956?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1466125357631741956%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fjen-psaki-shouts-down-african-journalist-testy-moment%2F


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  16. The mongoloid horde in charge of WA are fiercely protecting us from…

    /spins wheel…

    Rapid antigen testing kits being available for use.

    Im supposed to design a way to get the site out of restrictions, yet the only tool i have available is banned on penalty of 20/100 thousand dollar fines.

    Theres not even a figleaf of rationale behind this.
    This is pretty well the entire act.
    https://www.wa.gov.au/system/files/2021-09/Prohibition-on-the-use-of-Rapid-Antigen-Testing-No2.pdf
    I, Dr Andrew Robertson, the Chief Health Officer, authorised as an emergency officer under
    section 4 of the Act to exercise any of the emergency powers while the public health state of
    emergency declaration in respect of COVID-19 is in force, consider it reasonably necessary to
    give the following directions to all persons in Western Australia to prevent, control or abate
    the serious public health risk presented by COVID-19 pursuant to sections 157(1)(k) and
    190(1)(p) of the Act.
    PREAMBLE
    1. The purpose of these directions is to prohibit a person from using a SARS-Co V-2 rapid
    antigen test (“Rapid Antigen Test”) as an acute illness diagnostic tool for COVID-19,
    as their use may adversely affect the prevention, control and abatement of the serious
    public health risk presented by COVID-19.
    *
    CITATION
    2. These directions may be referred to as the Prohibition on the Use of Rapid Antigen
    Test Directions (No 2).
    COMMENCEMENT
    3. These directions come into effect upon signing.
    DIRECTIONS
    4. Unless otherwise directed under the Act, a person must not use a Rapid Antigen Test
    as a tool to detect or diagnose COVID-19.
    5. Despite the operation of paragraph 4 above, a person may undertake a Rapid Antigen
    Test as a tool to detect COVID-19 as directed under paragraph 14 of the Transport,
    Freight and Logistics Directions (No 4) as amended or replaced from time to time.
    PENALTIES
    It is an offence for a person to fail, without reasonable excuse, to comply with any of these
    directions, punishable by a fine of up to $20,000 for individuals and $100,000 for bodies
    corporate
    .

    *Bullshit, just spastic bullshit. “oooh if we let people test themselves they might not get vaccinated”….

    So if someone gets the coof in my remote location i shall swab their nasal cavities, then freight out the sample and wait the 2-3 days for a result.
    Awesome logic.


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  17. *Bullshit, just spastic bullshit. “oooh if we let people test themselves they might not get vaccinated”….

    They are openly laughing in our faces while checking how much deeper they can screw us.


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  18. custardsays:
    December 3, 2021 at 4:57 pm
    Excellent

    +++
    They couldnt wait to slobber over government choad, I hope it costs them a shitton.


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  19. I don’t have a link to the Palmer challenge to Andrews Bill but it’s true. Should be public soon. Someone said some named Bradbury(?) should be challenging it. I don’t know who Bradbury is but if he’s in the Morrisons government he won’t do anything. The Libs are utterly useless, there is nothing to redeem them, the only thing they’ve got right since they were elected is subs, other than that they may as well been a Shorten Gov.


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  20. http://campaign-image.com/zohocampaigns/443466000000207011_1_01.png

    Palmer to challenge Andrews’ unconstitutional pandemic laws

    https://campaign-image.com/zohocampaigns/443466000042318018_zc_v10_1638489319184_dan_.png

    Chairman of the United Australia Party, Clive Palmer, has vowed to fight the Victorian Government’s contentious pandemic legislation in the courts, blasting them as draconian and undemocratic.

    Daniel Andrews’ controversial new laws will come into effect from December 16 after passing Victoria’s upper house today, a move which should be deeply concerning for all Australians who value liberty and freedom, Mr Palmer said.

    The laws give the government legal basis for lockdowns, mandatory mask wearing, vaccine mandates and curfews.

    “These laws are unconstitutional and infringe the rights of all Australians. They are a major overaction and yet another sad reminder of the Andrews Government’s totalitarian approach,’’ Mr Palmer said.

    “I would have no hesitation in mounting a court challenge to fight these laws. Discussions are already underway with my legal team,’’ Mr Palmer said.

    Mr Palmer said only the United Australia Party was committed to protecting the values that have been built and developed in Australia since federation.

    “We will be putting freedom over fear, liberty over lockdowns and choice over compulsion,’’ he said.

    “Our party will protect the constitution and the rule of law, which underpins our democratic society and protects the rights, freedoms and liberties of every Australian citizen,’’ he said.


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  21. Hasn’t WA already screwed with all the other States?

    BiL had just landed in Perth for a family visit (Saturday) when he was told he either had to hotel quarantine for 14 days at his expense, or fly back immediately without leaving the terminal.

    A political numpty, he had always believed that McGowan was a great premier. Not so enamoured now.


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  22. So if someone gets the coof in my remote location i shall swab their nasal cavities, then freight out the sample and wait the 2-3 days for a result.
    Awesome logic.

    Propping up PathWest, anyone?


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  23. I don’t know who Bradbury is

    It’s Morrison. Nicknamed for his falling over the line performance in 2019, like Steve Bradbury’s gold medal in speed skating at the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics when all the other competitors took each other out 10 metres from the finish line and he skated through.


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  24. The purpose of these directions is to prohibit a person from using a SARS-Co V-2 rapid
    antigen test (“Rapid Antigen Test”) as an acute illness diagnostic tool for COVID-19,
    as their use may adversely affect the prevention, control and abatement of the serious
    public health risk presented by COVID-19.*

    The purpose is to prevent the unvaxxed treating themselves with horse pellets +.

    The health nabobs want to control testing, detain positive unvaxxed, delay treatment, then ventilate.

    Out of pure spite.


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  25. You are useless Arek Barwin you are useless Arek Barwin…

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/dec/03/alec-baldwin-questions-how-bullet-got-on-rust-set-in-emotional-abc-interview
    In a clip from the interview released Wednesday, Stephanopoulos asked Baldwin, who was also a producer on the film, to confirm that the script didn’t call for the trigger to be pulled. “Well, the trigger wasn’t pulled. I didn’t pull the trigger,” Baldwin says.

    “So you never pulled the trigger?” Stephanopoulos asks. “No, no, no, no. I would never point a gun at anyone and pull a trigger at them. Never,” Baldwin responded.

    The actor said he “let go of the hammer” on the weapon and the gun went off. “I never pulled the trigger,” he said.

    So he basically did the idiot equivalent of “fanning the hammer’
    From 1:45 on this clip shows it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr0azVhRZUQ

    Pulling the hammer back (cocking the pistol) and releasing the hammer before it locked and engaged the trigger.

    I may be wring, Im going off an old rifle my granddad had where you could fire it just pulling the hammer back about 2/3 of the way then letting it go.


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  26. This. People need to stop talking about communism as if it’s still the 70s. As Darren Beattie says, the enemy is the Global American Empire. It’s technocratic, managerial, and supranational. It’s an ideology of power. Communism was only ever an iteration, global American Empire is a newer iteration, but technocracy is the form.

    Thanks Dover- that explains a lot. I could never get my head around powerful US companies hating ‘Amerikkka’. Shows that Bush-O’bumma were estenially the same. Just like our loathsome uniparty.


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  27. Ya gotta admit that slomo is no different to trumble, he just has a different smirk on his face as he fks us over.
    The old bullshit of vote for lnp because they aren’t labor is total dogshit, they are labor.
    The next election will define the future of Australia, if either of these shithouse party traitors get the reins again we are fkd.


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  28. “These laws are unconstitutional and infringe the rights of all Australians. They are a major overaction and yet another sad reminder of the Andrews Government’s totalitarian approach,’’ Mr Palmer said.

    “I would have no hesitation in mounting a court challenge to fight these laws. Discussions are already underway with my legal team,’’ Mr Palmer said.

    Thank you, sfw. Let’s see if Big Clive puts his money where his mouth is. (I don’t want to hold my breath!)


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  29. Gruinaid commentators showing they really truely care about “a society”, not individuals.

    Note: These are all acceptable comments on the ferociously moderated comments.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/02/omicron-restrictions-prejudice-against-unvaccinated-people-virus#comments
    Deny the unvaccinated NHS treatment or unemployment benefits, it’s very simple.
    Don’t want to fulfil the (tiny) obligations of living in a society? Then you don’t get the benefits that brings either.
    What an absolute bunch of cry babies these people are.

    ….
    Being prejudiced against the unvaccinated is rather like being prejudiced against drunk drivers. It’s their choice not only to put their own lives at risk but also everyone else’s by creating conditions in which the virus can spread and mutate.

    I have no sympathy with those who could get vaccinated from shirking their duty to do so. It’s anti-social and they act are breeding grounds for mutations that they then pass on to vulnerable people.

    The reason why the vaccinated are being put on to a hamster wheel of vaccination every three months isn’t to protect them – it’s to protect the unvaccinated.

    If you’ve had two vaccinations you have protection against serious illness and death. But our immunity is to be kept topped up to maximum to keep cases down, lest the unvaccinated catch Covid. They are vulnerable, but they refuse to protect themselves.

    The lunacy on display is bracing.


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  30. Runnybumsays:
    December 3, 2021 at 5:43 pm
    JMH, instead of having a dig at Palmer, support him?

    FFS! If Palmer is a man of his word – and goes the Dictator – then I will praise him from on high. I have already slotted in UAP – if they stand candidates in my electorate. Do you have a problem with that?


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  31. JMH, I have no problem with that, but you insinuated that clive put his money where his mouth is, i merely asked what you were doing in support?
    Instead you have a dig at me.


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  32. I’m somewhat bemused to read the debate about the relative weight of Commonwealth versus State law. It’s not as if Australia is presently operating under the rule of law. Wherever the ALP is in office, the law is whatever the ALP wants it to be. And the Libs are almost exactly the same: wherever the Libs are in office, the law is still whatever the ALP wants it to be. If the Libs had sense or courage or principle or just a basic decent respect for fellow citizens, they’d recognise Diktator Dan’s Enabling Act for what it is and either find or (if necessary) create a legal basis to smash it.* But no. The Libs can’t ever fight back. Because . . . reasons.

    * And, at the same time, conduct an eye-wateringly proctological special investigation of ALP / union crime in Victoria that would focus Dan Andrews’ time and energy on staying out prison.


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  33. Look how seamlessly bureaucratic/ corporate America supported woke ideology, whether critical race theory, trans / gender ideology, BLM, and the like. They are almost completely arrayed against America First and have complete control of the UniParty.


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  34. So he basically did the idiot equivalent of “fanning the hammer’
    From 1:45 on this clip shows it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr0azVhRZUQ

    Pulling the hammer back (cocking the pistol) and releasing the hammer before it locked and engaged the trigger.

    Good point, Frollicking … or, what I suspect may have happened:

    He’s pulled the gun from a cross draw, finger through the guard and unintentionally squeezed the trigger back. Then he’s pulled the hammer back to cock it, but when released it’s gone straight forward because of the held trigger … and BLAM!


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  35. I heard one say “Aut cum scuto, aut in scuto”

    Assuming you introduced yourself as Biggus Dickus and offered the young ladies dibs on first and second conjugations.


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  36. Indolent you post some very good stuff, but do you actually think our owners give a fuck?
    Marching up & down the streets with placards & shouting Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi will achieve precisely fk all.
    IMHO


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  37. The health nabobs want to control testing, detain positive unvaxxed, delay treatment, then ventilate.

    There’s a single word to describe this approach – murder.


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  38. As an aside:
    A crew of a submarine is roughly around 120?
    Space is at a premium?
    The boat is at sea for three months?
    So where do they store three months worth of date rolls for 120 men/women/confused?
    Or do they have bidets?
    Or ‘Family Cloths’?
    or just use their left hands?
    So many questions!


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  39. The other day in Canberra, the PM and the leader of the Opposition joined together to place presents under a Christmas tree in parliament house. It was supposed to be a nice, civil and bipartisan event but clearly Albanese or someone in his office decided to politicise the event, as only the left can do, by filling a box with presents that were nasty political digs at Morrison. The gifts included….

    1. A jigsaw puzzle of the Eiffel Tower….a snide reference to the frosty Australia/France relationship due to the cancellation of the shonky French sub deal.

    2. A toy submarine (plastic I think)….another snide reference to the frosty Australia/France relationship due to the cancellation of the shonky French sub deal.

    3. A toy fire engine…..a snide reference to Morrison and the bush fires in 2019/2020.

    So, perhaps some anonymous person could sneakily put another box of presents under the parliament house Christmas tree…..aimed at Anthony Albanese. I have some ideas for presents….they’re probably not for children…but so what…

    1. A book on Thai massage. Here’s one available on Amazon Thai Table Massage: Applying the traditional Thai Massage techniques on the table“. I reckon Albo would find such a book quite therapeutic.

    2. A framed copy of the Hamas charter, a genocidal blueprint for the annihilation of Israel and all the Jews within it…..a reference to Albo’s great mate in the UK, Jeremy Corbyn, the uber anti-Semite. Albo always makes time to have tea with Corbyn when in London.

    Any other ideas?


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  40. From that Aus Clinical info site

    “Overlapping and combined phases of clinical trials, the urgency of a need for a safe and effective vaccine, international collaborative efforts, funding and pre-planning in manufacturing have allowed vaccine development time-frame to be compressed to about 10 months. COVID-19 vaccines are being rolled out for emergency use authorisation in several countries. However, as there are limited safety data, full registration of the vaccine will only be given after extended safety monitoring, which will take several years (refer to Figure 2)”.

    Which means I may roll up for a jab.

    In several years.


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  41. Runnybumsays:
    December 3, 2021 at 5:54 pm
    JMH, I have no problem with that, but you insinuated that clive put his money where his mouth is, i merely asked what you were doing in support?
    Instead you have a dig at me.

    Listen up. I was not having a go at you. You came in guns blazing re whether I support/non-support Clive and I answered your question. I’m sure my replies were in basic English!


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  42. Any other ideas?

    For Labor?
    A packet of brown paper bags.
    A diploma “To whom it may concern” in the name field.
    A top hat, to symbolise their sell-out to Big Corporate.
    A white bathroom tile, a spare for Julia Gillard’s young and naive bathroom.
    A red shirt. Vic corruption, as well as just being commies.
    A song sheet with ‘The Internationale’.
    A judges gavel with 7-Nil written on it.
    A framed copy of Bill Leak’s cartoon of a guy waking up in his bedroom to two burglars, wearing Liberal and Labor rosettes. “What are you doing here??!” “Campaigning fo ryour vote, mate – now where have you hidden your Super?”


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  43. As an aside:
    A crew of a submarine is roughly around 120?
    Space is at a premium?
    The boat is at sea for three months?
    So where do they store three months worth of date rolls for 120 men/women/confused?

    Accounts I have read of USN SSN and SSBN patrols indicate that every spare space, including walkways is crammed solid with all provisions needed for all hands for an average patrol of 3 months (~90 days). Tinned food, bogroll and more.

    Packed so deep that all non-shortarses need to remember to duck their heads so as to not tear them open on the overhead ducts and pipework. For at least the first few weeks, anyway…


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  44. Gruinaid commentators showing they really truely care about “a society”, not individuals.

    scratch the left’s “compassion” and it is clearly utterly fake


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  45. Jennifer Westacott & Innes Willox falling over themselves to praise Labor’s emissions target.

    Clearly big business are expecting to do very well out of it.


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  46. Sounds like it is, only has one lever over the back for changing feed direction?

    Yes, that’s it.

    Cool, I’ll send you a spindle when I run a few off.


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  47. Gruinaid commentators showing they really truely care about “a society”, not individuals.

    More often than not Leftists are misanthropes who only like humanity in the abstract, not in the flesh.

    That at least partly explains why they are so dismissive of individual rights if they stand in the way of their ideals for society.


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  48. Pulling the hammer back (cocking the pistol) and releasing the hammer before it locked and engaged the trigger.

    If it’s an accurate replica of that period then it will most probably be single action and it won’t have a transfer bar. The transfer bar basically stops the gun from being able to fire unless the trigger is pulled and the hammer falls with sufficient energy at the same time. On old revolvers if you snag and drop the hammer or lower the hammer too quickly the gun will go off no matter what is going on with the trigger. If he actually didn’t point it anyone then possibly this all happened when he was attempting to lower the hammer. The gun rotating upwards to meet the hammer because he had a good grip on the hammer but not on the pistols grip.


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  49. Accounts I have read of USN SSN and SSBN patrols indicate that every spare space, including walkways is crammed solid with all provisions needed for all hands for an average patrol of 3 months (~90 days). Tinned food, bogroll and more.

    Can’t be right! .. I watched VIGIL .. rooms(cabins) as big as my house, clear 3 metres wide passageways and 8 feet ceilings even the dining room could have held a rock concert .. LOL!
    Mind I’ve been on a Oz sub (way back in the 1970s) and they were a wee bit smaller in those days tho I don’t think Collins class had crews of 120 .. half of them would have been bunked on deck even whilst submerged .. LOL!


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  50. Listen up. I was not having a go at you. You came in guns blazing re whether I support/non-support Clive and I answered your question.

    JMH is absolutely right.

    There is good reason to be a little cautious with regards to Fat Bastard. Look at what he offered at the last election. Would we ever have had the execrable Lambie foist upon us otherwise? We also know that he has a range of squabbles with the existing parties which now infest our governments.

    His motives may be honourable and inspired, and they may be cynical and opportunistic.

    BUT…

    He seems to have gathered some good people around himself – like the precious layers of a pearl that accrete around the commonest grain of sand.

    It is the pearl that I am interested in, and which makes Clive’s party worthwhile.

    The piece of grit still has to prove himself.


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  51. Any enterprising chemists looking for a opening?

    It only requires a little chemical finangleing, childs play, Id do it myself but my brain is too smooth.

    2 rumors: Kenworth are basically going to close their books on truck orders in the next couple of weeks, wait times are out to 2024…..

    And the biggie, Austfailure is going to run out of Adblue..

    Thats is bad.
    How bad?
    Most diesel trucks/vehicles stop moving bad.
    https://www.ampol.com.au/fuels-and-oils/petrols-and-diesels/adblue

    In order to meet ever tightening emission regulations, vehicle manufacturers have adopted exhaust after treatment technologies to significantly reduce harmful emissions from their vehicles.

    One of the key technologies for manufacturers to comply with strict EURO emissions regulations is Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR). This approach is centred around the injection of a Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) into the exhaust stream to reduce harmful nitrogen oxide emissions.

    Vehicles fitted with SCR will have a dedicated tank to hold AdBlue and an integrated control system to manage the injection of the solution. The SCR system is usually located after the diesel particulate filter (DPF) – if fitted. A fine mist of AdBlue is injected into the exhaust stream where it heats up and splits into Ammonia and Carbon Dioxide. The nitrogen oxide gases in the exhaust react with the ammonia and the catalyst and are converted into nitrogen gas and water vapour and released into the atmosphere via the tailpipe.

    Where does it come from??
    80% China.
    Whats it made from?
    Urea.
    Whats else is Urea used for?
    Fertilizer.
    What does China have a shortage of and prices are rocketing?
    Urea.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-coal-shortage-threatens-farmers-in-india-and-truckers-in-south-korea-11636635601

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/selective-catalytic-reduction

    Time to stock up on ammonia and deionised water like its 2021 hand sanitizer!


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  52. Sounds like it is, only has one lever over the back for changing feed direction?

    Yes, that’s it.

    Cool, I’ll send you a spindle when I run a few off.

    Thanks, much appreciated. How much for the spindle plus postage?


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  53. Could we really deflect an asteroid heading for Earth?

    We could pass a law. Threaten to estrange it from the society of other asteroids. Appear in press conferences without a tie and, exhaustedly, talk about the necessity to…I dunno…avoid carbs?…or something to prevent asteroids.

    Would that work?


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  54. I always thought a better option to defelct an aseroid would be

    /Strokes bald cat, raises pinky to mouth

    A giant frikkin lazer.

    Surely heating one section of an object would cause it to “gas off” therefore changing its trajectory??


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  55. And the biggie, Austfailure is going to run out of Adblue.

    That’s not just a rumour, it’s a distinct possibility.

    We need to find sources of urea other than China.

    Along with the rest of the world.


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  56. Arguing Australian constitutional law.

    Hell, these people are getting ready to overrule Nuremberg.

    We’re in Post Law times. The Law is whatever the hell the elite want it to be.


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  57. Couldn’t it be distilled from sewage?

    I’ll defer to BoN or any other chemist presnrt on that one.

    I suspect the presence of urea would be rather low as compared to water, rendering the extraction process uneconomical.


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  58. John H. says:
    December 3, 2021 at 6:53 pm

    Could we really deflect an asteroid heading for Earth? An expert explains NASA’s DART mission

    JC we discussed this months ago. The approach here doesn’t require nukes or high falutin missiles just a big enough mass to hit the rock off its trajectory. Simple, smart, hopefully effective. We need something like this to work because over time it is inevitable a big rock will come our way.

    John H

    Do they/we have the technology to be able to change the direction when its so distant? Wouldn’t it be better just blowing it up (although you aren’t able to control where the debris is going to float off to)?


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  59. We need something like this to work because over time it is inevitable a big rock will come our way.

    Don’t be so rash. It might be heading for Canberra.


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  60. I’ve been shouting at the TV and the incompetent public service scum barracking for more lockdowns and their enablers in the journalism business who hate freedom.

    The worst of them are those who pretend they love the common people, but actually loathe them. I’m looking at you, A Current Affair, who make me ashamed to have spent a lifetime in journalism.


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  61. Media Watch Dog: Fran Kelly gets the usual self-indulgent ABC send-off

    Hey, Tractor Kelly has resigned/retired.

    Media Watch Dog: Fran Kelly gets the usual self-indulgent ABC send-off



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  62. Could also ditch the ridiculous emission standards being driven by the Eurotrash as well & have no need for adblue. Great idea let’s waste perfectly good fertiliser to save Gaia.


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  63. The Law is whatever the hell the elite want it to be.

    If that does come to fruition it will be a reversal of 800 years of English history – the Magna Carta, the 1628 Petition of Right, the Bill of Rights of 1689 and later developments which extended lawful rights to an ever widening circle of the general population. It is just extraordinary to contemplate how fragile liberty is, especially in Australia, which is the only heir to the English parliamentary and legal tradition which lacks a Bill of RIghts enhrined in law


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  64. Hey, Tractor Kelly has resigned/retired.

    Nobody at the ABC retires. She’ll be producing podcasts and other boutique projects and enjoying longer WEBs on our dime.


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  65. Investigators lift lid on Defence Force ‘culture of silence’
    Toby Crockford
    By Toby Crockford
    December 3, 2021 — 4.38pm

    Two women who have previously investigated the culture and treatment of women in the Australian Defence Force have highlighted the “culture of silence” and policy of “not jacking on your mate”.

    The first week of hearings for the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide came to an end in Brisbane on Friday, having covered plenty of ground in the past five days.

    Elizabeth Broderick was the 2016 NSW Australian of the Year and has conducted 16 cultural reviews into Australia’s largest institutions, including the ADF.

    Ms Broderick completed a review into the treatment of women in the ADF in 2011-14 and told the royal commission on Friday about the dangers attached to the culture of “mateship”.

    “There is significant pressure placed on cadets not to ‘jack on your mate’. As outlined by one cadet, while there may be an expectation among cadets that those who behave inappropriately will come forward, cadets generally will not report on each other,” her four-year review noted.

    Ms Broderick referred to a testimony given by one ADF member as part of her review.

    “I think that the biggest sin is selling out your mates, ’cause you’re all living together; if you sell out one of your mates, you’re gone … usually people have the integrity to come forward,” they said.

    “If they’ve done something bad, they will usually go forward and say it, because that’s one of the things we’re taught. You don’t really ever have to tell on anyone and you’re not going to anyway.”

    Ms Broderick said ‘mateship’ had bred a culture within the ADF of “what happens in the family, stays in the family”.

    “The idea that you don’t jack on your mates is about a culture of silence because if something happens to you in the team, then as this quote says, you essentially suck it up,” she said.

    “You can speak out about it, but that comes at a huge personal cost to your reputation, it’s the cost that you may be victimised and ostracised – you’ll actually be put outside of the group … Generally cadets won’t report on each other.”

    In the 2011 ADF Academy’s unacceptable behaviour survey, which asked cadets about their experiences in the past 12 months, 74 per cent of female cadets and 30 per cent of male cadets reported experiencing an ‘unacceptable’ gender or sex-related harassment behaviour.

    In addition, 53 per cent of female cadets and 33 per cent of male cadets reported experiencing a ‘unacceptable’ general harassment or discrimination behaviour.

    Alexandra Shehadie was the former Director of the ADF Cultural Reform Program and has also been involved in previous reviews of ADF culture.

    When she requested ADF data on sexual abuse, sexual harassment and sexual discrimination, she received a considerable amount, but there were issues – different figures came from different areas of the ADF, the information was not collected by a central branch.



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    So where do they store three months worth of date rolls for 120 men/women/confused?

    Heard from an ex-sailor, order from the Captain. “Three sheets only. One to dry, one to clean, one to polish.”


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  67. Could we really deflect an asteroid heading for Earth?

    Launch SHY or Albo at it.
    Albo has invincible ignorance and SHY has enough mass and momentum to stop anything.


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  68. JCsays:
    December 3, 2021 at 7:27 pm
    John H. says:
    December 3, 2021 at 6:53 pm

    Could we really deflect an asteroid heading for Earth? An expert explains NASA’s DART mission

    JC we discussed this months ago. The approach here doesn’t require nukes or high falutin missiles just a big enough mass to hit the rock off its trajectory. Simple, smart, hopefully effective. We need something like this to work because over time it is inevitable a big rock will come our way.

    John H

    Do they/we have the technology to be able to change the direction when its so distant? Wouldn’t it be better just blowing it up (although you aren’t able to control where the debris is going to float off to)?

    It is very difficult to blow something with a surface explosion because most of the energy goes outward. They would need the equivalent of a bunker buster and then hit the rock at just the right angle. In short, exploding the rock is an unnecessarily complex and problematic way to address the problem. Much easier to knock it off course.


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  69. Listen up. I was not having a go at you. You came in guns blazing re whether I support/non-support Clive and I answered your question.

    I would not trust Big Cloive out of sight on a dark night. However, that is significantly further than I trust any of the other political careerists currently on offer.


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  70. Could also ditch the ridiculous emission standards being driven by the Eurotrash as well & have no need for adblue

    Last I checked, better than 80% of the rail motive power in this country does not require AdBlue. And that includes the museum pieces and chuff-chuffs that the tourists like to photograph…


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  71. Couldn’t it be distilled from sewage?

    Pee. In Roman times the launderers invited passing punters to pee in their vats, since the urea was good for bleaching clothes. I’m drawing on Lindsay Davis from her Falco historical detective novels, but I suspect it’s true since she has relevant quals from Oxford and is very good at weaving in gritty history into her novels. Also I’ll add this:

    The Bizarre Way Urine Was Used By The Ancient Romans (Nov 2020)


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  72. Jennifer Westacott & Innes Willox falling over themselves to praise Labor’s emissions target.

    Clearly big business are expecting to do very well out of it.

    I listened to part of Mr Albenese’s press conference today. In many ways it was an overt appeal for facism. Quite strange. But what isn’t at the moment.


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  73. If that does come to fruition it will be a reversal of 800 years of English history

    I think it has come to fruition Roger, how many laws, principles and declarations have been bulldozed during this pretend crisis?


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  74. Just replied to an email from Liberal candidate for Cowan, Vince Connolly. His email banged on about Labor lies and Medicare cuts and GST cuts!

    My reply

    Hi Vince,

    I have stood for public office twice (unsuccessfully) namely the 2016 and 2019 federal elections as a senate candidate for WA.
    This email from you and what it’s about, demonstrates clearly to me why I can’t vote for your party anymore.
    The failure to make sure that mandatory vaccines and vaccines passports would not happen are a failure. The excuse that there was nothing you could do is BS.
    My prediction is that the next federal election will result in a massive vote shift away from both Labor and Liberal.
    My wish is that the minor parties on the right have the balance of power.
    Finally, give yourself an uppercut.


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  75. I’m still a fan of deflecting asteroids by exploding a largish nuke nearby. Fireball transfers heat by radiation to surface which vaporises and acts as a rocket motor. This is possibly a way to move the “gravel pile” type asteroids also.
    The really dangerous asteroids will be the ones in highly elliptical orbits which we fail to see until they are coming at us almost out of the sun. Tricky navigation, guidance and timing problem to do anything about them.


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  76. Yes, fullers used urine. So did the tanners who produced vellum from sheepskins.

    Stinky business. Definitely an “outside the city walls” occupation.

    Remember the hum of O’Riordan Street Mascot? Before it all became gentrified.


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  77. Megan

    I would not trust Big Cloive out of sight on a dark night. However, that is significantly further than I trust any of the other political careerists currently on offer.

    Here in NSW, if the choice for backroom manipulator is between Big Cloive and Photios, Cloive gets the guernsey.


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  78. custard, despite your reply I’m sure they’re spending stupid amounts of money on all sorts of expert to tell them where they’re going wrong. Can’t listen to what people are telling them, which is pretty much the problem to start with.


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  79. Here in NSW, if the choice for backroom manipulator is between Big Cloive and Photios, Cloive gets the guernsey.

    As much as I hate to say I am leaning in the same direction for this reason. Yuk!


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  80. custard, despite your reply I’m sure they’re spending stupid amounts of money on all sorts of expert to tell them where they’re going wrong. Can’t listen to what people are telling them, which is pretty much the problem to start with.

    Maybe the political and bugman classes take Winston Churchill’s comment about “The best argument against demlcracy is a ten-minute conversation with the average voter” to heart as a serious analysis ofnthe political process, and not the tongue-in-cheek quip it was intended to be?


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  81. So where do they store three months worth of date rolls for 120 men/women/confused?

    Submarines on a war patrol often store a “false floor” in many passageways; ie: tins of food all of the same height, with some sort of flooring over the top. Has to be worked out carefully, as you don’t want stuff which can break up and get into the pumps if you are trying to save the boat in a damage control situation.

    Over time all of the stores get consumed, so you can get rid of the false floor. In the same way there is more room provided by firing off torpedoes, with the reloads getting used up.

    A rather odd design feature in WWII and before had stores, including torpedoes, stored outside the pressure hull. The submarine was basically the watertight pressure hull, with a deck above it – the outer casing – with a framework of struts and so on to hold it up. There were hatches and the like to open up compartments. They were “free-flooding” which meant they were open to the sea overall, although some could be wateright; eg: if you had an aircraft hangar, as some WWII boats had.

    So the outer deck was a series of slats which meant the seawater drained through it, and all sorts of materials stored between the outer and inner hulls. I was doing some work on the I-124 design (the Japanese 80-man sub sunk outside Darwin Harbour) the other day, and you can see the bulges in the outer casing where two torpedo reloads were stored forward of the deck gun.

    That all started disappearing when sonar became more and more effective. The more weird bits you have protruding off the streamlined “albacore” hull the more noisier the boat is on sonar. Just like cars, submarines became more and more streamlined, but in their case not just for speed and fuel efficiency but to become electronically quieter as well.


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  82. Lets take over the Collie council and declare independence from McClown based on producing stuff thats useful from coal

    The coal itself is still useful, too. Though slow-burning, highly friable (making it a bugger to store) and prone to sparking.

    The WAGR used to admix it with imported Newcastle coal in the summer months to cut down on spark-throwing and the attendant bushfire risk.


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  83. Fiona Patten who voted for the hunchback’s atrocious pandemic bill has had her revised prostitution act passed. Highlights of this new act include:

    Removes the requirement of safe sex practices between prostitutes and clients (eg. stealthing will no longer be illegal) – Clause 8
    Abolishes mandatory testing for sexually transmitted infections and allows sex workers to work with a sexually transmitted infection in order to “remove discriminatory, industry-specific public health offences” – Clause 9-10
    Legalises street-based sex work in most public places – Clause 28
    Prohibits property owners from refusing to rent their properties for legal sex work, in order to prevent discrimination against sex workers – Clause 36.



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  84. The coal itself is still useful, too. Though slow-burning, highly friable (making it a bugger to store) and prone to sparking.

    Where can I get coal dust in VIC? Need it for foundry sand.


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  85. Cohenite.

    In order to fight the coof the bat eared Mong will unleash AIDs and STDs, some verging on incurable.

    That’s high level tardation


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  86. All hail Dr Flyingduk!

    As predicted: Third test NEGATIVE.

    Giving up on getting tested, no way I’m going to test positive by accident or any other means. Useless pissweak bloody pox.

    Well that fucks the route to a 6 month stay on vaccination.


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  87. Prohibits property owners from refusing to rent their properties for legal sex work, in order to prevent discrimination against sex workers – Clause 36.

    Gosh…I’m so old I remember when they were called whores.

    Now they’re workers in an industry.

    I suppose it counts towards GDP as well.

    It’s call it progress, apparently.

    And if any middle class liberal objects, ask him if he’d be happy for his daughter to be employed thus.


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  88. So that’s the reason for the spark.

    Only railway organisation I’ve ever seen that went to the trouble of having draft retarders in the chimney- A mesh screen attached to a wire and counterweight that flips shut and partially chokes the fire when the firehole door is open.

    The idea was to minimise the risk of slacks and coal dust on the incoming shovel load being get ignited in mid-air, sucked straight through the tubes and out the chimney as flying sparks.

    Most other railways worldwide didn’t go to the trouble of having an extra device on top of the usual mesh spark arrestors and the like in the smokebox. But then again, they weren’t running Collie coal…


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  89. In order to fight the coof the bat eared Mong will unleash AIDs and STDs, some verging on incurable.

    That’s high level tardation

    He is a complete fucking imbecile.


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  90. Rex, could have had a contract at Collie once. FIFO from the East Coast (especially FNQ) killed it and I wasn’t interested in moving west in the boom.

    Geology of Collie looks interesting, nomenclature indicates the sediment deposition wasn’t entirely uniform. All sitting on a Precambrian base. Reminds me of drilling in SA, once we hit the green lithologies of the Adelaide basement that was TD, they were Cambrian era.

    Cheers, something to delve into this weekend when I get bored.


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  91. I think it has come to fruition Roger, how many laws, principles and declarations have been bulldozed during this pretend crisis?

    And yet it could get worse, much worse.


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  92. And if any middle class liberal objects, ask him if he’d be happy for his daughter to be employed thus.

    Does this mean that Centrelink can force you to accept employment in a brothel yet?


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  93. Where can I get coal dust in VIC? Need it for foundry sand.

    Errr… Hit up Bellarine Peninsula, Victorian Goldfields at Maldon, Puffing Billy or Steamrail.

    Ask if you can get access to some of the dross in their coal stages. Pay if you have to.

    The stuff will usually be some form of Gunnedah or other Hunter basin coal, and the dregs will probably pre-crushed. Avoid the lumps of slate if you can.

    If you get glossy black lumps or greyish, powdery coated stuff, you can smack it to size with a hammer and sieve to the size you need. As this is still ‘live’ and combustible coal, you will need to burn it first.

    If you are actually after the ash (call carbon and volatiles consumed) for making foundry sand, the same mobs would probably be very happy for you to make off with a few bucketfuls from their ash pits after a running day. Smokebox dustings will be your friend there- Anything out of the ashpan will be full of clinkers (fused iron pyrites), which can be sharp and will play merry hell with your gloves.

    Sovereign Hill might have been the place to chase up once, but they have converted all their steam-operated machinery to compressed air or electric operation. And I don’t know if the paddle steamers at Echuca are solely oil-fired or not these days.


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  94. H/T to Jeremy Hans again for spotting a typical piece of chicanery from Andrews and co. They announced today a public consultation on oversight of the police, as follow up to the Gobbo royal commission – with submissions due by the beginning of February. That is, when everybody is distracted by Christmas dinner (is it still legal to say Christmas in Victoria?) and the beach. Typical Socialist Left sham.


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  95. I listened to part of Mr Albenese’s press conference today. In many ways it was an overt appeal for facism. Quite strange. But what isn’t at the moment.

    Astute observation, Mr. Forwheels.

    Absent the worldwide revolution, Fascism is the logical advance on Socialism, with Corporatism & faux Nationalism added to the mix.

    The only viable option for electoral success for Labor given that they’re no longer the party of the working class, which was in large part destroyed because of policies they adopted in the 1980s.

    Since it’s the ALP & Ausfalia, however, we’ll miss out on the storied benefits of Fascism:

    The trains won’t run on time and we won’t get brand spanking new motorways with no speed limits.


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  96. Does this mean that Centrelink can force you to accept employment in a brothel yet?

    Way back when, the daughter of a sober, respectable, God fearing friend of mine, was referred by Centerlink for the position of telephonist, at a very exclusive sporting house…….


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  97. Geology of Collie looks interesting, nomenclature indicates the sediment deposition wasn’t entirely uniform. All sitting on a Precambrian base. Reminds me of drilling in SA, once we hit the green lithologies of the Adelaide basement that was TD, they were Cambrian era.

    Cheers, something to delve into this weekend when I get bored.

    If it helps, when Bennett Brook Railway imported its two South African Railways NG15s in 1983, some of the SA fuel was found still in the tenders.

    Geological examination and comparison revealed that the fuel these things had been running on in Port Elizabeth was almost identical to the profile of Collie coal.

    Now, I have fired some real shit in South Africa, including (presumably) Wolverkrans coal that was little more than flammable slag. It was hard to reconcile the similarities of the fuel, given that Collie coal’s friability extends even to its clinkers (You can disintegrate even a big one with a sneeze).


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  98. Dot says:
    December 3, 2021 at 12:51 pm

    The UN merely pushes the agenda of the US establishment.

    It operates from and is largely funded by the United States.

    Babylon, it shall fall, quickly and shockingly.

    Then we face the new reality and mask mandates will become a pleasant and comforting thought from our past.


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  99. Does this mean that Centrelink can force you to accept employment in a brothel yet?

    Well…”My Body, My Choice” is apparently now up for debate, so who knows?


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  100. Rex, Moura has some coal like that. Vitreous and so friable only the best & careful drillers could core it. I hated sampling it as it was so fragile. Saw some wicked gas kicks in that area too. One I have on film. Another we were still getting above LEL CH4 readings on the gas meter at 20m from the collar a week later.

    Too bad about the faulting in the area that essentially trapped a number of rod strings and made it unviable. We were looking at it for Metallurgical coal.


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  101. sfw says:
    December 3, 2021 at 4:14 pm

    Clive Palmer is looking to challenge Andrews Pandemic Bill in court, he’ll take it all the way, using his own money. Now I know a lot here despise him but he is about the only one doing anything about it and using his own money. So tell me again how bad he is.

    He’s also the only one who has taken the WA Government to the court over their shut the border policy. The Federal Government should have jointly appeared with Clive to protect the Federal Constitution, they did nothing.

    It’s good that Clive gave it a shot, our governments, state and Federal, are determined to continue their tyranny.


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  102. cohenitesays:
    December 3, 2021 at 9:04 pm
    Fiona Patten who voted for the hunchback’s atrocious pandemic bill has had her revised prostitution act passed. Highlights of this new act include:

    Removes the requirement of safe sex practices between prostitutes and clients (eg. stealthing will no longer be illegal) – Clause 8
    Abolishes mandatory testing for sexually transmitted infections and allows sex workers to work with a sexually transmitted infection in order to “remove discriminatory, industry-specific public health offences” – Clause 9-10
    Legalises street-based sex work in most public places – Clause 28
    Prohibits property owners from refusing to rent their properties for legal sex work, in order to prevent discrimination against sex workers – Clause 36.

    My first thought was whores & johns in Victoria are now worse off under Fiona Patten/Daniel Andrews than they were in Deadwood under Al Swearengen.

    That’s sayin’ something … two clips to drive it home –

    Sound Advice From Al Swearengen
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF8aIa3QOkU

    Deadwood, Trixie – Bloody Mother
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnB_WFcyuJs


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  103. Rickw, one hole I was supervising we lost 20K litres all with drilling muds in the space of an afternoon. Hole dry. Driller fairly experienced was scratching his head, didn’t feel like a fault, I saw nothing in the chips indicating as much. However the fluids were going somewhere and the only conclusion from both of us was a fault. He was worried the client would quibble on the usage of additives and standby to send the water truck away. I was happy to vouch for this one. Client was relaxed about it, I guess expected but we lost the rod string a couple of days later when the hole bridged trapping it solid.

    I know why Anglo kept to Dawson and avoided that area.


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  104. KD, the mints are crap but in hot times they may offer a bottle of water which is gooood. If sad over the mint, just pay your restaurant bill at the till, and trouser a mint for your next Uber ride.


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  105. Prohibits property owners from refusing to rent their properties for legal sex work, in order to prevent discrimination against sex workers – Clause 36.

    Sorry mate, I don’t want jizz all over the carpet…it’s because I have crippling OCD, it’s not discrimination. As an NDIS recipient, can you blow me on my Medicare card?


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  106. Yo – we’ve ASIOd, apparently … 🙂

    They weren’t subtle about it, either. For over 50 minutes I was unable to access this site – but could post on the Adam Cat, immediately.

    Our pizzas will be laden with pineapple*, whether we wanted it or not. 😕

    *Recording the whole circus.


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  107. Painted Dog poll shows close to half of all WA women want Tanya Plibersek as Prime Minister
    Lanai Scarr
    The West Australian
    Fri, 3 December 2021 8:00PM
    Comment

    Close to half of all women in WA want Tanya Plibersek as Prime Minister following a week where the treatment of females in Parliament House was under the spotlight.

    A Painted Dog poll conducted for The West Australian of 801 West Aussies found while Scott Morrison was still the most preferred Prime Minister overall, a closer look at age categories and genders revealed a different story.

    In a worrying sign for Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese former Deputy Labor Leader and now Shadow Education Minister Tanya Plibersek had a higher preferred PM rating than he did.

    Mr Morrison had the support of nearly half of West Aussies with 41 per cent preferring him as PM, followed by Ms Plibersek, at 32 per cent and Mr Albanese at 22 per cent.

    Defence Minister Peter Dutton, who ran against Scott Morrison in the leadership ballot that ousted Malcolm Turnbull in 2018, only secured 4 per cent of the vote.

    Males are significantly more likely than females to prefer Scott Morrison as the Prime Minister – 47 per cent of males prefer him compared to 36 per cent for females.

    But female West Aussies are significantly more likely to prefer Ms Plibersek compared to males 41 per cent compared to 25 per cent for males.

    While still behind both Mr Morrison and Ms Plibersek, Mr Albanese highest preferred rating was among younger West Aussies.

    However Mr Albanese secured just 26 per cent of the vote for 18-39 year olds compared to 32 per cent for Ms Plibersek and 39 per cent for Mr Morrison.

    Giving Labor more reason to use WA Premier Mark McGowan prominently in the federal election next year he is seen as the more trustworthy leader to the prime minister by more than three-quarters of voters.

    Of those polled 78 per cent think Mr McGowan is the more trusted leader compared to 22 per cent for Mr Morrison.

    Females are significantly more likely than males to trust Mr McGowan more as a leader compared to Morrison with 86 per cent of females seeing the WA Premier as more trustworthy compared to 71 per cent for males.

    Males are significantly more likely than females to trust Mr Morrison more as a leader compared to Mr McGowan with 29 per cent of males seeing the PM as more trustworthy compared to 14 per cent for females.

    Trust for Mr McGowan compared to Mr Morrison reduces among older West Aussies, with the opposite true of Morrison where trust increases with age.

    The poll results highlight the importance of the female vote at the next election.

    The last parliamentary sitting week of the year was dominated by the treatment of women with the release of the Kate Jenkins review on Tuesday and a statement by a former Alan Tudge staffer that the Education Minister was “abusive” during their consensual affair.

    The support for Ms Plibersek will cause ripples within the Labor party who know that they need to win WA in order to win Government.

    The Labor Party has its eyes set taking the WA seats of Swan, Hasluck and Pearce from the Liberal Party to help win Government.

    How will Prime Minister Plibersek get on, with certain countries, who get antsy about not allowing anyone with a criminal record, into the country.


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  108. Disruptors will eventually be outlawed and your pensions forfeited.

    Justice demands it. It will be peaceful, democratic and the public, except for a few anti Australian fascist crackpots, will cheer wildly.


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  109. a few anti Australian fascist crackpots

    Blindly adhering to the increasingly unhinged pronouncements of their spiritual leader existing in a Kampuchean jungle. 🙂

    Who remains among us, peoples. 😕


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  110. I’m playing golf

    I’ve got a long lunch, drinking and telling dirty stories with low companions.

    FWIW, I thought it was U.S. Grant, who described golf as a superior form of exercise, marred only by the need to hit the ball.


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  111. I’ve been shouting at the TV and the incompetent public service scum barracking for more lockdowns and their enablers in the journalism business who hate freedom.

    Tom, it’s endemic to all sectors, ubiquitous, widespread and surging through every pore in Australian society.
    To be honest, The Cat seems to be one of a very few sites in Australia where the orthodoxy is questioned.
    No wonder 99.99% of my friends, family, acquaintances and sparring partners on other sites are pro lockdown, anti the non vaccinated, and pro compulsory vaccination.
    The stories emerging from Howard Springs are met with “So what?”


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  112. A Painted Dog poll conducted for The West Australian

    Leftwits. Paid by Leftwits. Polling Leftwits, to shill and gaslight for the Leftiest of the Leftwits.

    Sing with me Cats! Its starting to look a lot / Like an Election Year…


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  113. stairs

    I know a bloke
    who lives very close to
    another bloke
    who helicopters
    for a trucking magnate
    who allegedly
    confirms that
    stairs in Vikko
    can be slippery indeed


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  114. Looks like protests, large and small, are having an effect.

    Clearly, the kinds of parents that raced their 12 to 15 children in to get vaccinated want to do the same with 5 to 11s and are no doubt clamoring for that opportunity, all in all, with Dictator Dan, it’s all politics, all the time.

    “The state government has given its clearest indication yet of the criteria it will use to scrap controversial vaccine mandates as criticism grows of rules forcing people to prove their vaccination status in shops and other settings.

    “Premier Daniel Andrews said the rules could change in the next few weeks but only after health authorities assessed the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines for children aged between five and 11, and the booster program”

    Premier hints at end to rules locking out unvaccinated, at the age might be paywalled


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