
Open Thread – Mon 6 Dec 2021

2,542 responses to “Open Thread – Mon 6 Dec 2021”
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I reckon nut case is munty. Same stupidity and the fat fuck couldn’t stay away for so long.
Nah. The fat man’s language is far too consistent. Not a single example of you lot in any of Grigory’s textual belchings, and not quite enough Ideology, either.
The fat man still occasionally stirs himself sufficiently to launch the increasingly rare drive-by snark at the Discordant Cants Discord page, but his quality as a troll seems much-diminished.
It would seem that LockDan has broken even his most ardent Melbournite devotee…
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I told you last week, you imbecile, Ted
The Federal Reserve is a government agency. Like any federal government agency the word “ownership” doesn’t apply.
What I explained to you last time, you offensive galoot is that the New York Fed is minority owned by money centre banks. The majority is owned by the US government. I forget the historical reason, but look it up and come back and tell us why. At least it would reduce your trolling from the current 100%.
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Two more days should see the end of the end of harvest for me and my juvenile off sider on the header. Young gel truckie will be needed for another week or so shifting tanks, bins and other assorted stuff scattered round the place.
Followed by a couple more days for repair and maintenance, then the obligatory BBQ and pissup.
Boss is ecstatic with the yield and quality this year despite some late rains and frosty nights.Glad the end is in sight, I am getting too old and weary for the long hours, but a lot of satisfaction in seeing the crop in and realising I can now do a very nice pas-de-deux between the header and my chaser bin without smashing something.
Back to my indolent lifestyle by Friday next, the resident hound will be happy, the Dorpers will once again be plotting my demise if I go near the sour old things.
Healthy cheque in my pocket won’t hurt, either.
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You reckon Australian’s might be waking up to the need for a real Bill of Rights including a Right To Bear Arms?
Disagree.
Bills of Rights are Trojan Horses that end up as Lawyers Picnics.
Australia’s problem is that we fell in love with Credit Cards early on
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Pedro the Loafersays:
December 7, 2021 at 8:06 pm
Two more days should see the end of the end of harvest for me and my juvenile off sider on the header. Young gel truckie will be needed for another week or so shifting tanks, bins and other assorted stuff scattered round the place.Pedro you’ve done more for your community than most politicians do. Do what the ABCess do and have a well earned break.
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I told you last week, you imbecile, Ted
Sorry, JC.
I meant to provoke the little squit into rage-quitting off the Cat again by reminding him of this last great rhetorical failure of his.
Sadly, the Shit Dribbler is proving more impervious to exposure to his own than I first feared.
A new tactic is required.
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Here’s the thing:
Labor are always at war with the public.
If it’s not a fucking Biller Rites, it’s another Star Chamber overseen by people bwho belong in The Dock themselves.
Yeah, I know, Scotty removed the Conscientious Objection for vaccines, but if he hadn’a of, someone else woulda anyway.
Someone named PeanutHead or Albanese.So pining for a Labor Government will end in disillusion, same as it always does, then a John Howard or Tony Abbott is elected and proceeds to break every promise in his first week.
Solution:
The Devil you know is always better than some Freedom Peddlin’ arsehole so
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Bills of Rights are Trojan Horses that end up as Lawyers Picnics.
Funny how the American one has gone largely unchanged since writing, eh Grigory?
Perhaps the problem isn’t the document itself, but the tards who write and then exploit them these days to obtain and exert unaccountable power?
Fuck off and eat your mutton at someone else.
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Rex A
and/or all the ASEAN and AUKUS powers and India agree to bottle up the bottom of the South China Sea and convoy all non-Chinese merchant shipping around areas of risk.
Block all Chinese bound shipping before it leaves the Indian Ocean, escort traffic to Japan/Korea/Taiwan east of the Philippines and Taiwan. Wait for the revolution to break out.
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The ski season in Switzerland is looking good.
As God is my witness one Sunday around February a few years ago I was driving home from an unavoidable commitment when I tuned into the ABC out of boredom (why else?).
Some second or third tier sports reporter I’d never heard of was waxing lyrical about her recent WEB skiing in the Swiss Alps.
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Why couldn’t the LAPD nail him then?
If he was as guilty as Roger Rogerson on bank cameras, fry the son of a bitch.
If not, he gets a walk.
Black, leftie jury, incompetent prosecution, ambivalent media coverage (although nothing like Rittenhouse). OJ was sued successfully by the relatives of his wife for damages because of the lower standard of proof.
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Block all Chinese bound shipping before it leaves the Indian Ocean, escort traffic to Japan/Korea/Taiwan east of the Philippines and Taiwan. Wait for the revolution to break out.
That too. A reduced paychecque at the end of a foreshortened voyage to a different port always beats an insurance claim.
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Block all Chinese bound shipping before it leaves the Indian Ocean, escort traffic to Japan/Korea/Taiwan east of the Philippines and Taiwan. Wait for the revolution to break out.
Dumb idea.
Chinese are extremely Nationalistic, threaten China and they will unite.
Leave China alone and you’ll get your desired internal Revolution. -
Arky says:
December 7, 2021 at 8:25 pm
Moving the entire world’s manufacturing to within a 2000 mile radius from Beijing.
Such a good idea.Coming from someone hailing the greatness of making things, claims to have worked on production lines and manufacturing and then left to go into a tertiary job.
Hypocritical dickhead.
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Mr Ed
Assuming there’s more than 2 candidates, your candidate will have made some preference arrangement with the other candidate[s].
Their HTV will display this, always a handy bit of information.If you cannot decide on the order between three or four candidates without having your hand held, perhaps you shouldn’t be voting?
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Chinese are extremely Nationalistic, threaten China and they will unite.
Is there anything you cannot get wrong, Grigory?
A more or less landlocked nation surrounded by hostile neighbours of its own making amd unable to feed and keep its own population warm without massive maritime imports, is not a nation to provoke its neighbours unless it sees the provocations as a means to keep the people distracted from rebellion.
As such, the war the PRC seemingly wants is probably likely to be the best of the many terrible outcomes that it could experience.
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O.J. had been a gangbanger before he made it in College Football at USC.
One source says that Willie Mays took him under his wing and advised him to find new friends or his career would be ended before it started.
Interestingly, O.J.’s dad was a well known SF transvestite, Marvin Gaye’s dad was also, as well as being a Reverend. -
Unions in WA to get access to bosses’ homes
exclusive
Paul Garvey
16 minutes ago December 7, 2021
No CommentsUnion officials would be able to enter the homes of employers under industrial relations changes set to be pushed through Western Australia’s Labor-controlled upper house this week.
The McGowan government’s Industrial Relations Legislation Amendment Bill is scheduled to be debated in the Legislative Council in the coming days.
Among the proposed changes is the removal of a provision of the current act that expressly prohibits union officials from trying to enter someone’s home.
That section of the act will be changed to allow union officials entry in “exceptional circumstances”, with the Liberal opposition arguing that those circumstances have not been adequately defined.
Opposition industrial relations spokesman Nick Goiran said the proposed changes would allow union officials to enter an employer’s home for the first time under WA law.
“It is entirely unacceptable for Premier McGowan to misuse his total control of the WA parliament and sneak this clause in under the guise of it only being used in ‘exceptional circumstances’. What could possibly justify a unionist entering a person’s home?” Mr Goiran said.
“If a unionist has a concern about something occurring in a person’s home then they should act like the rest of us and report the matter to the department or to the police.”
But a spokeswoman for WA Industrial Relations Minister Stephen Dawson noted that under the changes, union officials would need an order from the WA Industrial Relations Commission before they would be allowed to gain access to a home.
The changes, she said, were important for combating modern slavery and removing exclusions for employees such as domestic workers who currently have no employment protections.
“Exceptional circumstances could include, for example, a sweatshop operating out of the employer’s home,” she said.
“The changing nature of work means that many employees now work out of private homes. They should not be denied employment protections based on their place of work.”
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Perhaps the problem isn’t the document itself, but the tards who write and then exploit them these days to obtain and exert unaccountable power?
Written by lawyers for lawyers and parliament is full of them. Name one lawyer in parliament you would have represent you in a court of law. Doesn’t matter what for.
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But a spokeswoman for WA Industrial Relations Minister Stephen Dawson noted that under the changes, union officials would need an order from the WA Industrial Relations Commission before they would be allowed to gain access to a home.
The changes, she said, were important for combating modern slavery
Looking forward to the day when the Public Service Union head in WA marches into Sneakers’ House and declares Right of Entry, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate!’
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Vietnamese slave labourers building a Chinese tyre factory in Serbia…
ZRENJANIN, Serbia (AP) — They are shivering in barracks without heat, going hungry and have no money. They say their passports have been taken by their Chinese employer and that they are now stuck in a grim plainland in Serbia with no help from local authorities.
These are the Vietnamese workers who are helping build the first Chinese car tire factory in Europe. The Associated Press visited the construction site in northern Serbia where some 500 of the workers are living in harsh conditions as China’s Shandong Linglong Tire Co. sets up the huge facility.
The project, which Serbian and Chinese officials tout as a display of the “strategic partnership” between the two countries, has already faced scrutiny from environmentalists over potentially dangerous pollution from tire production.
Now, it has caught the attention of human rights groups in Serbia, which have warned that the workers could be victims of human trafficking or even slavery.
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Never forget the years and years the shits on here excused China. -
That was from Breitbart.
https://www.breitbart.com/news/vietnamese-workers-at-chinese-factory-in-serbia-cry-for-help -
It will be a table of “many meats”, JC. I have Jewish family, so much, much smoked salmon, fish and poultry as well as those products of the most meaty of animals. Plus lots of vegetarian items. They can work out what they want to sample.
Let’s just say it will be Hobbit-style. Rich, varied and prolonged. 😀
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Never forget the years and years the shits on here excused China.
As I said, the hypocrite can show us how it’s done but he wants other people to do it.
And he can’t wait for tariffs and quotas either. Like that other turkey, struth, his Chinese made goods and components wouldn’t be any less than anyone else.
Talks the talk, but not the walk.
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And he can’t wait for tariffs and quotas either. Like that other turkey, struth, his Chinese made goods and components wouldn’t be any less than anyone else.
What’s your best argument against Tariffs?
Let me guess:
It’s something like:
a Bus Driver can’t buy her wife a Mink Stole every other year?
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Vis-a-vis Choos, I got hold of a book the other day called Jerusalem – The Biography by a bloke called Montefiore. About 800 pages, and I’m 200-odd in.
It’s a belter. I like history literature, but even so.
Got through the Davidians, Solomon, through to the Maccabeans (Hammers) and assorted others including Babylonians, Alexander and the Gliks, various Syrians [pricks] and Persians. The Herodian dynasty just finished, and I’m up to the bit where Titus is about the five hundredth bloke to have destroyed the joint. I haven’t even got to the Crusades yet.
Amazing historical book. Can recommend. Elite satisfaction.
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rickw:
I believe that the USA has conventional ordnance big enough to create manmade tsunami’s that would scrub them clean.
Fuel/air explosive would do the job, or if they wanted to test them KEW from orbit, or a variant of this – the high altitude version. Just a big lump of steel with a few strap on boosters released at about 50,000 ft. The boosters keep accelerating it to top of arc then it tips over and the boosters continue to push it to Mach 10 or so. Terminal guidance package steers it to island airstrip.
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Never forget the years and years the shits on here excused China.
Did anyone here ever excuse China?
Most Australian manufacturing survived 10 to 20 years after the end of tariffs. What fucked it in the end was unworkable labor laws and government red and green tape.
Manufacturing didn’t run to China, it was pushed there by our fuckwit governments not realising that not only does industry need to compete, but that also that government needs to compete.
Anyone starting any sort of business in Australia needs their head examined. And the last 2 years have only added to that assessment.
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Mother Lode….I also heard the reason the kamikaze were more effective against American ships than British ones was that the British used metal decks while the Americans used wood.
True enough, but the Japanese – as you previously discussed in relation to damage control – had some fair ideas about it…the RN trained them before WWI, and the Brits were masters at it.
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Queenslanders. Real Australians. Good Germans. Nancy Wake would NOT like you.
No no no Dot, they are all – to a man, even Ed – steely-eyed flint-jawed rootin’ tootin’ dusty boot-having no-nonsense holdouts who would never ever put up with this nonsense.
Their barrel-stuffing South Australian import spoke for every last one of them. Repeatedly. That’s what he said. Until Pallashay turned into every bit of Andrews. Then he said it again.
Never saw Quenthland protestors break the police lines. Just sayin’.
They were probably too busy digging for AKs in Cherbourg.
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True enough, but the Japanese – as you previously discussed in relation to damage control – had some fair ideas about it…the RN trained them before WWI, and the Brits were masters at it.
Although was it carrier Kaga (?) where they screwed up the damage control and managed to fill the whole hangar with Avgas vapour and then started ventilation to ensure that it had enough oxygen to go kaboom!
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Manufacturing didn’t run to China, it was pushed there by our fuckwit governments not realising that not only does industry need to compete, but that also that government needs to compete.
Disagree.
Manufacturing was allowed to emigrate to China to make money on the difference in Labour costs.
They couldn’t and wouldn’t have done that under a Tariff Regime.
It all comes down to the question:What’s the purpose of Australia?
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Back in Oz.
I’m back in a different bit of Oz. Wheat and sheep country, which is of course God’s country.
Most of the crops I saw on the way up were off, and few remaining were thick and buggery. Roos couldn’t get through them – they were bouncing off the top.
Crisp and clear cold, which is a pleasant change from the bastard misting windy cold in Mongyang this morning.
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Forget it Rick. The dishonest scumbag doesn’t accept any of this. Like all leftwinger asshats he skips over what’s uncomfortable. He’s basically a social conservative with very leftwing economic policy views.
Most Australian manufacturing survived 10 to 20 years after the end of tariffs. What fucked it in the end was unworkable labor laws and government red and green tape.
Manufacturing didn’t run to China, it was pushed there by our fuckwit governments not realising that not only does industry need to compete, but that also that government needs to compete.
Anyone starting any sort of business in Australia needs their head examined. And the last 2 years have only added to that assessment.
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Although was it carrier Kaga (?) where they screwed up the damage control and managed to fill the whole hangar with Avgas vapour and then started ventilation to ensure that it had enough oxygen to go kaboom!
That was the Taiho.
Kaga was destroyed by multiple fuel-air explosions after 3 bomb hits effectively detonated fully fuelled and armed aircraft below decks, ruptured the ship’s avgas lines and knocked out all electrical power and fire suppression systems. The resultant fires quickly cooked off ordnance stored on the hangar deck. And these were there due to the series of haphazard arm/disarm/rearm orders coming from Admiral Chuichi Nagumo as he first set up for a second airstrike on Midway Island, only to be suddenly presented with information that the US Navy’s carriers had appeared within striking range.
The Japanese were literally caight with their pants around their ankles, first by the uncoordinated arrival of the US torpedo bombers, which were wiped out, but drew the Combat Air Patrol out of position just as the dive bombers appeared.
Just about everything that could conceivably gone wrong for the IJN at Midway, did.
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Some slurs above, against Mighty QLD. Saying Qlders haven’t tipped over barricades, fought govt directives, have sucked up to Pallet-jack, & so on.
You are all so wrong to say that. The earliest & (at the time) largest breaching of Covid health directives, was by Queenslanders!
The “Black Lives Matter” protests in Queensland were about three times the size of those in any other state. Heh! How’s that for breaching just about every health directive in force at the time?
That wasn’t just a breach of health directives, it was a full Mohne, Eder, Sorpe + 3 gorges dam, sized breaching of Covid law.
Nyeh nyeh nyeh. Put that in yer pipes & smoke it.
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ZK2A:
But a spokeswoman for WA Industrial Relations Minister Stephen Dawson noted that under the changes, union officials would need an order from the WA Industrial Relations Commission before they would be allowed to gain access to a home.
The changes, she said, were important for combating modern slavery and removing exclusions for employees such as domestic workers who currently have no employment protections.How long before the Union would be willing to set up a special squad with Security Licenses + weapons to invade anyone’s home on the grounds of suspicious activity resembling slave workshop?
“Sorry mate – we got word you were operating a sweatshop in your poolroom. Just send us the bill for the front door, the back door, oh and the ceiling we rappelled through.” -
rickw says:
December 7, 2021 at 9:22 pmMost Australian manufacturing survived 10 to 20 years after the end of tariffs. What fucked it in the end was unworkable labor laws and government red and green tape.
And energy costs. We have the world’s most expensive electricity, why would anyone want to manufacture anything in Australia?
It’s the miners and the farmers who are keeping us afloat.
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You should also apologize to everyone for pretending you owned this blog or at least had any rights to anything other than that turgid crap you post where you threaten everyone who comments.
Go read an economics text book, you thoughtless loudmouth. Last time someone suggested this you were horrified.
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Arky says:
December 7, 2021 at 8:56 pm
Vietnamese slave labourers building a Chinese tyre factory in Serbia…ZRENJANIN, Serbia (AP) — They are shivering in barracks without heat, going hungry and have no money. They say their passports have been taken by their Chinese employer and that they are now stuck in a grim plainland in Serbia with no help from local authorities.
These are the Vietnamese workers who are helping build the first Chinese car tire factory in Europe. The Associated Press visited the construction site in northern Serbia where some 500 of the workers are living in harsh conditions as China’s Shandong Linglong Tire Co. sets up the huge facility.
The project, which Serbian and Chinese officials tout as a display of the “strategic partnership” between the two countries, has already faced scrutiny from environmentalists over potentially dangerous pollution from tire production.
Now, it has caught the attention of human rights groups in Serbia, which have warned that the workers could be victims of human trafficking or even slavery.
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Never forget the years and years the shits on here excused China.I just never got past Sinc’s keen support for ‘Shanghai Sam’ Dastyari.
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The reason Australian business went to China was because of the bloody mindedness of the Trade Union movement. We would still have manufacturing if the trade unions had not systematically destroyed businesses with their wild cat strikes, ever increasing wages and reduction in working hours with ever decreasing profitability .Their tactics can only mean that the Trade Unions are also in league with one world government China or they are real stupid.
Neither does China GST which Australian printers do. Our fully paid up printing factory is being sold off as I type., back space and delete. -
And energy costs. We have the world’s most expensive electricity, why would anyone want to manufacture anything in Australia?
It’s the miners and the farmers who are keeping us afloat.
Very true and not anything to be sneezed at either. Those thoughtless wombats who suggest “weez don’t make nofing” don’t even realize we’re the most efficient farmers and miners in the world. We certainly have natural endowments in the sectors, but we’ve exploited these attributes to the n’th degree. These are a form of making something. However, a much superior job is sitting at the bench, pulling a lever and couple of seconds. That’s making something according to the thought leadership.
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You quota queen.
…..Aaaaand I think that’s your stoush ration expended for the night, JC.
As such, I am exercising my RSA (Responsible Stifling of Altercations) training by saying the following words:
Mate, you’ve really had enough to stoush. Honest. Would you like a glass of water? Please gamble responsibly. No-one is safe until we are all safe. Can I get you a taxi? We are all in this together. All enemies of the regime will be executed. Hail Hydra. -
So now WA Union Thugs won’t have to settle for leaving shovels on the porch, they’ll be able to deliver horse heads to the beds …
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
December 7, 2021 at 8:42 pm
Unions in WA to get access to bosses’ homesexclusive
Paul Garvey
16 minutes ago December 7, 2021
No CommentsUnion officials would be able to enter the homes of employers under industrial relations changes set to be pushed through Western Australia’s Labor-controlled upper house this week.
The McGowan government’s Industrial Relations Legislation Amendment Bill is scheduled to be debated in the Legislative Council in the coming days.
Among the proposed changes is the removal of a provision of the current act that expressly prohibits union officials from trying to enter someone’s home.
That section of the act will be changed to allow union officials entry in “exceptional circumstances”, with the Liberal opposition arguing that those circumstances have not been adequately defined.
Opposition industrial relations spokesman Nick Goiran said the proposed changes would allow union officials to enter an employer’s home for the first time under WA law.
“It is entirely unacceptable for Premier McGowan to misuse his total control of the WA parliament and sneak this clause in under the guise of it only being used in ‘exceptional circumstances’. What could possibly justify a unionist entering a person’s home?” Mr Goiran said.
“If a unionist has a concern about something occurring in a person’s home then they should act like the rest of us and report the matter to the department or to the police.”
But a spokeswoman for WA Industrial Relations Minister Stephen Dawson noted that under the changes, union officials would need an order from the WA Industrial Relations Commission before they would be allowed to gain access to a home.
The changes, she said, were important for combating modern slavery and removing exclusions for employees such as domestic workers who currently have no employment protections.
“Exceptional circumstances could include, for example, a sweatshop operating out of the employer’s home,” she said.
“The changing nature of work means that many employees now work out of private homes. They should not be denied employment protections based on their place of work.”
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