Lazy or ignorant parents. Plus the kids tell their parents to f… off.
Open Thread – Christmas 2021
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- Open Thread – Thurs 21 Nov 2024
- Open Thread – Mon 18 Nov 2024
Astonishing.
Shotgun.
Apparently Justine is threatening to arrest Bibi. Is Anal threatening to do the same? Justine likes to go to Taytay…
Craig Kelly Albanese enters the Guinness Book of Records – 11 porkies in 33 seconds. A new world record.
Ha! ha!
C.L.
This is a step up from the old KGB/GRU tactic of restraining the victim, holding his/her/xims nose closed and forcing an entire bottle of vodka down their throat. Wait a few minutes for the victim to become insensible, then throw them out the window.
Defenestration, Soviet style.
QLD economist Prof. John Quiggin predicting NSW will have to go into lockdown and border closures be reinstated.
Reckons he’s done the modelling on their hospital system capacity.
Lex Luthor needs to slap some sense into him.
Although he does have one point – the test and isolate regime and labs not keeping up with demand means hospitals could soon run short of staff.
As opposed to collectivism, which has been rejecting reason since Karl was sat on his arse (by socialism) and subsequently totalised a world view whose logic was apparently not “fictive”*.
As opposed to those noted works of fiction, “1984” and “Animal Farm”, you pseudo-intellectual onanist.
To paraphrase the Blair (Tim, not Eric Arthur), “Mind numbing blank talk”.
*This is a word? 😕
Rex:
Don’t they ever wash those engines?
I mean how difficult would it be to set up a series of high pressure sprayers and drive the thing through?
Why doesnt anyone remind these retards that its no worse than the fukn flu. Who cares!
If NSW was a Labor state they’d be in lockdown only if the Fed was Liberal.
In unrelated news, I have recently indulged in a minor outbreak of Baker Variant, and produced some very well-received scones.
They were a little soft on the crust, having not been cooked at high enough a temperature.
The recipe:
INGREDIENTS
3.5 cups Self Raising Flour
600ml Cream.
METHOD
1. First catch your Gypsum, then set your oven to 210?C (190?C fan-forced). ?2. Combine the listed ingredients above in a bowl and mix by hand until well combined.
3. Add a little extra flour to either the bowl or a board, and knead and pummel the dough mix like it is Grigory’s wrongology. Pound or roll out to about 1 finger width when the dough is firm, but not sticky.
4. Using a glass tumbler, cut out your scones and place on a baking paper-lined tray. You should get about 12 from this recipe, depending on the size of the tumbler.
5. Bake for about 15 minutes, and you have a solid crust that makes little ‘bok!’ noises when you tap a finger against it. Leave to cool long enough that you do not burn your fingers when handling.
Serve immediately with fresh, hot tea, jam and Créme Chantilly.
Créme Chantilly is made from 600mL thickened cream, beaten to spoon-holding thickness and flavoured with a capful of vanilla essence and sufficient icing sugar to taste. My cream was a bit old today, so I ended up with a clotty mass of something that looked more like butter than cream. It was still delicious, so no losses there.
OK, let’s try and use that word above, which isn’t actually a word:
“Hey, Miss Ellie, our wondrous continent shaking romantic relationship, which Angels will still be singing about millennia into the future, is entirely fictive?”
Noooo … 😕
Blast from the past.
John Le Mesurier.
Not sure any Cats have been given the Wegimental Wevolver and told to “do the decent thing” outside the Officers’ Mess.
Although there was the famous Bloodclot curse.
And let’s not forget the premature and grossly exaggerated declaration of death for Frank.
Constantly on the move.
A stationary engine earns no money, so often the only time one gets a scrub-up is during major mechanical work.
Even the big players are sparing of the Karcher and soap bucket- You wanna see filthy, check out the locos that ply the coal roads in the NSW Hunter and QLD Moura and Blackwater systems. Aurizon and Pacific National alike both have a bright, rich yellow in their corporate colours. Not a good mix with coal dust
Ditto Gina and Twiggy’s fleets up in the Northwest. Iron oxide is not a good mix with black and white (or pink) or whitish-grey and deep blue…
Here is the template…
Canada has welcomed more than 401,000 permanent residents in 2021, achieving its goal set last year, and marking the highest immigration year on record.
On Thursday, the federal government announced the milestone, adding that the record immigration flows were attained despite the ongoing pandemic, which prompted the country to close its borders to foreigners for much of the year.
Because of the closed borders, Canada last year had switched immigration strategies, targeting those temporary residents already in the country, like international students and foreign workers, and converting them to permanent residency.
A bureaucratic shellgame. How lovely.
Careful.
I heard someone got banned from another blog for calling someone “an uppercut”.
Or was that “an utter cup”.
No matter.
Tread carefully.
Fictive is a legit word, Rabz, meaning ‘feigned’ or ‘imaginary.’
So your example was about right, grammatically.
We normally save that sort of stuff until 2:00 a.m.
Tip of the iceberg stuff (seriously).
Look at Hal Puthoff’s research, NIDS via Wayback and what AWSAP/AATIP were I intially formed to look into.
Seriously! ((Gobekli tepe…)).
Does he own a heap of put options? No? Then he’s just a “front bar urger”.
What a difference a week’s worth of hayfever makes, believe me.
I doubt he has ever done any empirical research.
His prediction will be as wrong as 10,000 metre tidal waves that Irish heretic was babbling on about.
The hospital system was never going to collapse, more so with Omicron.
Bluddee hell – if you aren’t able to blunder back onto this planet loudly announcing that your enemies’ triumphant declaration of your death was somewhat premature, then you truly haven’t lived. 😕
Even if your name isn’t Frank (allegedly) …
Please don’t tempt fate.
No, it was an ‘Otter cot,’ I believe.
Now I did not know otters used cots, nor that this is considered a highly culturally offensive epithet to use in relation to furnitre . So I am now curious and would be very interested to find one…
Rex – when did poor ol’ “Fictional” go out of fashion, for goodness’ sake?
Zyclo, believe that’s exactly how Australia backfilled it’s program. Best and brightest eh…
(There was an SBS article on it a few months back that I can no longer find)
Half the family met in Sydney, scattered over Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. One person had had sniffles the previous Tuesday so got a PCR test – no result by the 25th so family gathering went ahead, no result by the 27th so we all drove to the Snowy Mountains for a big birthday bash.
Late afternoon on the 27th the test result came through. Positive. The car of people containing the positive person turned back to Sydney; we had already arrived in the Snowy.
Birthday boy’s wife and daughter living in the mountains are off to Europe next week and were scared of our “medium risk close contact” status – they have to have a negative PCR test 48 hrs before departure.
So we abandoned plans to attend the party. Testing in Cooma was a spur of the moment decision as we headed home.
Despair, disillusionment, anger and tears all round. This has been planned for and highly anticipated for a long time.
Welp, ‘fictional’ is usually used to describe the characteristics of an individual person or specific object.
‘Fictitious’ is usually a collective term of the same.
And ‘Fictive’ seems to be more of a value judgement, for example anthropologists use the term ‘Fictive Kinship’ to describe close kin or social ties between people that are not based on blood or affinity.
And the example we are looking into upthread uses it as a perjorative.
Pedro.
Being a Jap owned mob they are huge on compliance.
There is about 1 chap I know of left out of the 100 or so here who hasnt been stabbed.
Head office have made it very clear they are taking an active interest.
But we don’t have a vaccination program anymore.
We have, at best, a quarterly subscription service underway.
The Trade Unions were part of the World Economic Forum web, along with governments, business, religions, media and big tech. They weren’t going to help you, they will take your money but won’t help you.
The only way out now is for the vaxxed workers to band together and say “no more jabs”, they have to build their own unions from the ground up. That’s highly unlikely though, if they were coerced into two jabs already they might complain about the third, the fourth & the fifth*, but most will go along with that.
Klaus Schwab saying that they have control of the trade unions – around the 4 minute mark.
Greg Hunt announcing the fourth and fifth jab.
Bluddee hell – the sort of massacre not witnessed on this continent since Goose Morristeen’s deliberately ignited infernos in December 2019/January 2020 resulted in the deaths of gazillions of blowies, mosquitoes, ants and poor li’l ol’ bogong moths. 🙁
Rex – enough – there was real word and a fake word. The latter was used.
If it’s any consolation, I’d never even heard of the term “fictive” until this evening.
Which has added zero to the sum total of my knowledge (and more likely, less).
I’ve said this before.
Companies are only interested in covering their own arses.
Vaccination certificates, like anything else, all management wants is the relevant paperwork…
Make of that what you will…
I was wondering what the most viewed clip on YouTube might be and I think I just stumbled across it.
Well in excess of half a BILLION views.
Pretty good, too.
I have to wonder if any eco loons decided that We, The People needed expedited convincing.
Surely a bored AFP Chan can look into this.
Please, Senpai?
Cats, is there a more discredited “Perfession” in human history?
I’d rather be described as an Accountant. 🙁
If serious side effects of The Vax take say, 8 months to kick in, then at some stage the Hospital System must collapse
That’s a no brainer, you don’t need a Qld Economist to work that out
NZ have the only realistic solution, Euthanasia and they’ve got a lot of Freezing Works, so I guess they’ll just stack the Stiffs in there like logs of wood.
You Engleh gud too, eh? 😉
If you can understand a station tannoy, you can understand most varieties of Manglish…
(Fact: Grong Grong is a real place in Southwestern NSW. I’ve been there…)
Stop drooling, Grigory.
Dover will ban you for public obscenity…
Seven news advising that men should wear helmets when climbing ladders around the house in order to prevent injury.
Many already do, but what about the uncircumcised ones?
Many thanks, Googleory. Roared laughing.
PS: You could get a job in the meeja.
Tannoy Ho!
Oy Vey…
I’ve always regarded Queensland as a lifestyle thing.
It doesn’t really explain the voting patterns though.
Suddenly I was thinking of the uncomfortable rhetorical contortions Mole’s putative straight-fellow-who-wanted-sex-with-men-for-hos-30th-birthday might be engaging in with his lady love once he told her his depeest birthday desire.
Literally a dancing (dodging?) queen?
Old Party-tribal loyalties?
Sorry everyone, that was an accidental.
I’ll just see myself out…
[BANG!]
Indolent, Psy’s Gangnam Style has racked up 4.2 views.
Ahh, 4.2 billion views.
Rex Anger:
That’s the point – at some stage those engines are going very slowly though a fixed point, and that’s where you’d set up a wash system.
For my next trick, I shall call rickw to task for posting all those videos of machines doing machining stuff, and no one cleaning out the swarf, for goodness sake.
Pol, you raise an interesting point there. We in the “West” are now existing in a time of unprecedented evil, as far as I’m concerned.
EMPs and 10,000 metre tidal waves are the least of what our “leaders” deserve.
“You vill own nuzzink, unt you vill be happee”
With zero respect, Standartenführer, that will only happen when all of you loathsome globalist fascist bastards are dead, dead, dead.
Then I will be. Unrepentantlee. 🙂
Evil is banal.
The followers are just shameless now.
That’s about 4 more than expected. Evidently, he still hasn’t figured out how to vote for himself.
The contortions are fun.
Premier Dominic Perrottet refuses to rule out ‘targeted restrictions’ for NSW as COVID-19 cases soar to 11,201 (29 Dec)
NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard tells the unvaccinated to ‘switch off your social media and switch on reality’ (29 Dec)
Maybe someone will ask Health Hazzard how many of the 11,201 aren’t vaccinated. I wonder when he’ll get off social media and switch on to reality?
Had an argument with a nurse this morning.
In telling her the horrendous cost of this Covid carry on, I told her that testing alone has cost the country in/around $10 Billion. She told me I was full of shit and that didn’t know what I was talking about. She insisted that it would be only in the tens of millions because they are only $150 each.
I grabbed the calculator and multipled the number of tests in Australia, by her claimed cost per test, and showed her. Guess what!
54,112,957 x $150 = $8,116,943,550
That’s right, over $8 Billion, just in the tests alone (using her ‘low’ figure).
They have no idea what they are doing to this country, and the future of our children.
P.S. No apology forthcoming, just a shrug of the shoulders.
The only place I’ve seen that, curiously enough, is the Kewdale shed (visible streetside from Abernethy Road near the BP, Perf Cats!) where TransWA stable and maintain their Standard Gauge Prospector and AvonLink railcars. Literally an overgrown coach-washer and blow-drying apparatus (the turbo blowers on the gantry look big enough to have come off one of my freight locos’ engines) that the trainset can slowly be drawn through.
Never seen anything like it round Aurizon’s facilities at Forrestfield and Picton, and I’ve never seen Pacific Nartional’s facilities at Kewdale, so I couldn’t tell you what they do.
The Banality of evil, eh?
The ClotShot is real or it’s AntiVaxxers creating mischief.
If it’s the latter, who cares, if it’s the former, then you’ve got to Euthanase or the Hospital System collapses, simple as that.
Let me guess – an “outdoor face nappie of scientism mandate” during the hottest period of the year, you vile snivelling li’l cuck fag?
Epidemiology.
Fkg filthy vaxxed do it again!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-29/thursday-island-covid-19-outbreak-more-cases-detected/100730560
As End Users of highly expensive equipment Mater, you, I and many other ex-Service Cats were generally highly careful and considerate of the gear entrusted to our care.*
It is not an attitude extended by most bugmen to theirs, though they will complain bitterly when what they have (and have failed to look after) is not ‘just so.’
* Except for ammunition. That was expendable…;)
Nutrition?
Everyone in Australia from birth to infinity has had at least 2 Covid Tests?
I don’t believe that.
Now more than ever, you disgusting nazi sheep
I find it easy to understand why the vaccinated when they get covid are angry at the unvaccinated. They fell for the big lie and now cannot admit that they were lied to so it must be the fault of those people who did not fall for the lie.
Rockdoctorsays:
December 29, 2021 at 6:08 pm
Zyclo, believe that’s exactly how Australia backfilled it’s program. Best and brightest eh…
(There was an SBS article on it a few months back that I can no longer find)
Try searching “Vortigern” on the internet.
…
Sorry, same policy, wrong century and country.
Time for you to set the example for us all, Grigory
We’ll ensure Mother gets put in next to you…
#FrontBarUrger
“Hi, Wally from the Dalí- Minister Hazzard, will you now be ceasing all government propagandizing on social media platforms?”
You’re an idiot then.
I know people who have had their whole family of five tested regularly over the last two years.
I’m surprised it’s not more.
Everything about this “pandemic” is a farce, the more futile the action the more it is enforced.
You’re a fascist cunt, Bradley.
You were one of the worst attorney generals this state has ever suffered (Speakman, Upton and Hazitsergos were all abysmal too).
“The Science” says:
1. COVID has been globally endemic since early 2019. Deboonk the Spainish samples if you don’t like it, you prick.
2. Omicron is very contagious but very mild – ergo it can effectively end the pandemic.
3. The currently available vaccines are not fit for purpose. Steven Kirsch notes 1 in 95 vaccinated boys are now diagnosed with myocarditis. The efficacy rate in the real world for the provisionally approved vaccines is far below 80% so even if EVERYONE was vaccinated, we would never achieve herd immunity.
There is literally no point in getting angry at people because the vaccine ineffeicacy makes herd immunity impossible.
4. Pandemics rarely last longer than two years. You’re drink with power. Stop it.just stop, get some help.
54 million from birth to infinity?
How many people were tested and confirmed positive, Grigory? And how many followups were they forced to have?
And how many folks have had to take at least one in order to be allowed to fly out of State or fly home? Or even to get out of Australia?
A small population, tested many, many times.
Fuck off back into your corner and eat your abacus…
Ed Casesays:
December 29, 2021 at 7:06 pm
54,112,957 x $150 = $8,116,943,550
Everyone in Australia from birth to infinity has had at least 2 Covid Tests?
I don’t believe that.
I’m usually reticent about believing anything said by government, but for what it’s worth, that’s the figure the Feds give.
https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/case-numbers-and-statistic
Mater:
I had a similar discussion with a nurse in ’95. We were discussing a program that would cost many millions of dollars and she could see nothing wrong with that. When I tried to tell her that if the money was spent on (Land Rights for Gay Whales) it wouldn’t be there if her children or husband needed an ICU bed.
There was just no getting it through to her that money didn’t just appear out of nowhere with no costs associated.
I was asked by the boss to not annoy the other nursing staff.
*sigh*
I have had three per week since the beginning of December, which means I added about $1500 to the total.
Now now, you can’t be like that with facts, logic and objective morality.
Which would just prove to everyone that the clot shot is not only killing and injuring people, but also completely useless.
Why?
Are you obliged to do that for some reason?
..
Hey.
But at least we don’t waste money making Falcons or Holden’s any more.
Ah ha ha ha ha ha.
Let’s put it in context.
..
At least for your 5.4 billion you got cars.
What did you get for your 8 billion COVID tests?
Sometimes you do in fact get wet footsies.
Israeli & Turkish Scientists Discover Victim Remains from Bronze Age Tsunami 3,500 Years Ago (28 Dec)
Thera was quite a bang. Not only did it wipe out the Mycenaean civilization but it caused them to migrate from Crete to Gaza where they became the Palestinians. And so the fallout from Thera still goes on three and a half millennia later.
But then there would be no reason to push us around. Can’t have that.
I only use government information, it saves arguments.
It’s not hard to pull the Covid bullshit apart, even using their own information. Getting people to listen, and understand, is the real challenge.
I can’t access the full story at the Oz but, amidst the Covid gloom, here’s some good news…
“Adani at full production rate ‘within months’
With its first coal shipment about to set sale, India’s Adani says it expects a quick ramp-up to full production at Carmichael.”
Matersays:
December 29, 2021 at 7:01 pm
That’s actually very alarming.
When a friend went through nursing training, one thing that was drilled into them was awareness of orders of magnitude.
The last thing the authorities wanted was people who’d been rendered innumerate by the education system using a calculator to check dosage, accidentally getting something like “9.5 x 5.8 = 551”, not realising it couldn’t be right, and injecting patients with lethal quantities of chemicals.
So if we’ve got a nurse who just has no idea of order of magnitude concepts, there’s big trouble ahead.
I missed that one, or was it Struth again?
“Alexa, what are the campaign contributions to Australian politicians now and who in politics and the public service, unions, judiciary, media or big business care related to each other…?…”
Struth again.
She’d simply not looked at how many tests had been conducted in the country.
They live in their little bubbles and are incapable of looking at the larger picture. Small minds, small views.
Cite you the story of the nurse who made a similar miscalculation, and informed her supervisor of the intended injection.
Her supervisor looked at her coldly. “What will you do with the dead patient?”
Look, I’m notb trying to piss on your party, dude, and don’t shoot the messenger, But.
I heard this rumor that Governments tell plenty of lies, it’s their standard response?
From the UNSI magazine:
Despite the loss of her Number 3 turret in the Java Sea on 4 February, the heavy cruiser Houston and her men fought on. Within a month of this photo, she was sunk at the Battle of Sunda Strait, and most of the men shown were either dead or prisoners of war.
Martinus, the company that built their rail network has done spectacular work in very short time.
A heavy-haul system, no matter the track gauge chosen takes a great deal of earthworks and engineering to lay. They got the whole line from mine to network connection near Colinsville done in the space of about 18 months. Locos and rollingstock arrived from the US and China respectively around September/October and all commissioning was done by mid-December.
Let’s go after this point like a tongue into a cavity.
So the same liberal government that couldn’t possibly subsidise a car industry to the tune of 5 billion for 13 years, has blown 8 billion in one year on tests for a disease everyone will get sometime in the next few months if they haven’t already.
Bravo.
So do you.
Dental cavity.
Not any other kind.
And not even a single whiff of any subsidy anywhere around it!
Still a nasty image
Andrews is buys tens of millions of rapid tests.
They’re all at it.
Correction- Moranbah.
The nurse then replied ” Well, stiffs usually go to the Morgue until someone claims them,why, are you having a Barbie?
It’s an auditable trail.
As I said, I’m surprised it’s not many more.
Perhaps if you’d been in Victoria (or even NSW) during the last 18 months, your grasp of reality might be better. Miracles happen.
Grigs seems particularly fascinated with cannibalism today.
Just saw an interview with a wholesale supplier. They should retail at $54 for a pack of 5.
$5.40 each (rapid) test. Lots of gouging going on at the moment.
Timothy:
That was in ’95, 26 years ago.
It was fairly endemic then.
“A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.”
P.J. O’Rourke
At least for your 5.4 billion you got cars.
Hey I never got any free car, that’s for sure.
Coulda bought 200 000 entry-model VWs for that dosh, given them out, one for every 100 adults.
Instead we got ridiculously priced and increasingly overpowered hoon sedans, with subsidies of iirc $30 000 each hidden beyond the ticket price, flogged to flaccid flogs.
$50,000 spanner, go on..
Ten thousand professional comedians are registered with Centrelink as unemployed…….
Sorry, brain fart.
$10.80 per rapid test.
Car industry benefitted labouring classes.
Wu flu industry benefits labouring class individuals who want to be the new Stasi & get back at everyone who ever pissed them off.
Govts love self selecting Stasi.
The mighty Ganmain Grong Grong Matong Lions!
Comparing apples and steak.
Not even worth an effort point
Try again, Babushka.
Rex:
Martinus – it’s a pity they didn’t do videos of the projects.
They appear to have done an awful lot of stuff.
..
Nevertheless, they got made and you helped pay for them.
But not anywhere as much as you will be paying for everyone to get tested for COVID.
The only reason Holden- or Ford- ever sold any sedans after about 2010 is because there was some FIFO who put an order down so he could say “Yeah yeah yeah nah mate she’s one of the last five hunjid ever to come off the assembly line with a factory blown 6.2 hemi in the six speed two-pac holdin metallic Neptune Green over Centenary Bronze, I got her wif the Bathurst five-point harness buckit seats goes like a shower of shit sideways hey”
Ultimately it benefitted the shareholder, now the US government.
The GayBC is, if course, sooking about the prospect of the first Adani exports, ‘reporting’ on its GreenLeft audience whinging and moaning about it.
Rex, I am curious about the route they used if you know anyone that knows. Those black soil plains south of the Elgin rd entry at Twin Hills locality are going to be very maintenance intensive. My last drive up that way the Gregory Developmental rd was falling to pieces in that area while 20km to the north on different geology, nil issues. Mind you since they sealed the Gregory Developmental rd I have seen that area maintained once but begs the question even if cost was a factor savings will be quickly eaten up by maintaining the line. I was just a little miffed by the route chosen.
LOL one thing, would have hate to have been following the cultural heritage team. 189km and every bit has to be walked. The bitching would have been legendary.
Thought leader is again imparting his wisdom. He never lets on he’s for tariffs, quotas and outright import bans. He only does so when there’s nothing left. Such a weasel.
Logic.
Stage 4 brain cancer is better than stage 3 pancreatic cancer.
GGGM have nothing on Burrumbottock Brockelsby United (now the Brocklesby-Burrumbuttock Saints Football And Netball Club).
Arguing medical economics with nursing staff is about as useful as discussing competition policy with a checkout chick.
Am I a boomer?
No idea who the goth chick and surfie dude are on the Menudog ads.
Asking for a spontaneous enema. And you don’t want one of those!
The elder Angers once reminisced about their younger days in Condobolin, and hearing of the exploits of the Grong Grong-Matong footy club over the weekend on the local radio…
Rex, scratch that. Make more sense now going to Moranbah. That said, that network was at capacity during the boom and tonnages are nearly back to that. Can see deconfliction becoming a major bugbear soon if they try adding more capacity, especially with blasting schedules that QR used take with a grain of salt.
You might who they are if you had not been existing in a Kampuchean jungle since xxxx*
*The year, not the beer, we’re trying to be sensitive here. 🙂
Martinus’ own map suggests a direct run from Carmichael to Moranbah, and the website talks of some 86km of formation work and 46km of culverting, or so. I’m on the wrong side of the country and connected into the wrong operating networks to know too much- The coal country folks in each State are separate cultures from the general freight from the metro passenger from the country passenger guys, etc. And then the Pilbara is something of a different mob entirely.
Whatever the case, I somehow doubt it will be something prone to mudholes.
$8 billion: tests for a flu everyone will get anyway.
$5 billion. A decade and a half of car industries.
Without going into how the subsidy industry moved into grid wrecking housetop solar and bullshit like converting perfectly good rubbish tips into expensive “transfer stations” leading to more illegal dumping and a massive impost on surviving industries such as builders.
But keep kicking the long dead Australia car industry as if it was some sort of unique aberration.
Because class.
And yet, says Aurizon and all the shareholders of all the energy and mining companies, the WEF etc., coal will shortly be a thing of the past…
Pull the other one, Comrades. It plays Auld Lang Syne…
Former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid died today.
Some may remember his “gym accident” in 2011 which left6him looking like Daniel Andrews after the stairs got stuck into him.
And?
The rest of the world does it. Often for valuable strategic reasons, as tends to be demonstrated by Europe dumping entire crops and paying farmers to stay on their land. 2 World Wars tend will do that.
What makes it verboten here? Aside from main chancers, spivs and grifters using it to feather their nests as everyone else’s expense, whom, as that debbil-debbil Arky points out, simply swapped to ‘Green’ Energy and are now hungrily lining up on hydrogen generation the way Grigory does to bullshit…
British Sikh youth from privileged family arrested at Windsor Castle with crossbow, had previously threatenedeto assassinate Monarch because of Armritsar Massacre of 1919.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/after-crossbow-violence-nearly-descends-upon-queen-need-for-crossbow-control-seen-in-uk/
Pol Dot Jr III essays the interior of QLD economist Perf. John Quiggin’s cranium … 😕
BHP look a bunch lot of ex car workers to work in the met plant. At the first joint meeting there main complaint was the jumbo operators got more then them. This is the union mentality.
…hmmm I’m not kicking any tyres here.
Just pointing out that tradies’ utes are no longer Commodore Ecotec V6s, they’re Japanese diesel four-door 4WD with lockup boxes and a 6×8 trailer. They carry more, seat more, pull more, use less fuel, and the comfortably subsidized local car industry never made anything which buyers valued enough to buy- despite the massive subsidies and more importantly because of the “she’ll be right, we’re an icon” subsidy mindset.
Family cars are no longer station wagons, they’re SUVs. They carry more… etc etc. The local car industry… etc etc.
It’s not a class disdain thing. If anything, I find the Lion Logo Legend pride badly snobby, because the driver often truly believes that they did the right jingo thingo but the government let down the local auto industry by turning off the flow of taxpayer funds after two decades of decay. And they can’t think of the evidence which is driving past their eyes, every road, every worksite, every schoolyard.
I dunno, perhaps I have it all wrong. Whoever said private sector jobs are the result of self-sustaining wealth creation, when in fact its easier to have each job cost the taxpayer 50K apiece, imported goods requiring tariffs and quotas to ensure the Australian consumer doesn’t stray to buy the superior imported product.
@ bespoke-
Crap culture = crap product.
And GM and Ford wanting to merely milk gummint money for a product nobody really wanted to buy (except Government-mandated fleet buyers, and they were only doing it by law), and keep a pack of restive stooges from causing trouble = No chance of improving said crap product.
Even Mitsubishi gave up.
Arky:
When you start adding it up, I’d bet about 30% of the taxes raised in this once great nation are just pissed up against the wall.
…and I’m being bloody conservative.
It was 2015.
But go ahead regardless and argue your case.
Rex
Excellent hypothesis there. If we’re subsidizing worthless renew balls why don’t we put up a tariff wall too. You know, what does more viral load matter? It’s not going kill us, right?
Tell us, why is say Switzerland a terrible choice to emulate?
Or discussing rocket surgery with your beagle puppy, just before the latter is kidnapped and shipped off to the muddle East for some indescribably medieval scientism experiments. 🙁
So, what are they intending to do with these tests? I wont be getting one. And if anyone had any commonsense, they wouldn’t either.
Snap, Wally and Bespoke.
Most of our imports are from China, and most of that is effectively ‘dumped,’ while tariffs are used offensively in return against our exports.
Work, jobs, wealth creation and other forms of economics are not and never will be an ideological or practical zero-sum game.
Remember that the Orangutan Bard was beloved and even grudgingly respected for championing Fair Trade, instead of the Free Trade that had spent the last 30+ years ruining his nation.
I’ll take Fair over Free any day. Even if it means embracing policies upsetting to the hardest of hard mercantilists and bow tie-spinners like Pyrmonter.
Visited a BHP site once, asked nice Philippines met lady why didn’t the operators do their own titrations like our guys did in Townsville. It was 42 C. She said “see that guy”…”yes”, says I…”he was an abattoir worker before he came to us”…”oh, ah, yes” I said. No change from when I was on a site in 1980 when the guys drank like fish and the met sup blew the top off the roaster. Getting anyone to work in a hot desert isn’t easy.
Fair trade is just subjective bullshit.
The COVID racket is gritting. The car industry is grifting.
No more grifting!
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I’ll take anything that doesn’t concentrate production in the communist Chinese sphere of influence and keeps a strategic reserve of high end manufacturing capacity in Western countries, including this one.
That was once defence policy.
There was once upon a time a list of things that Western governments considered essential to retain onshore some capacity for the manufacturing thereof.
As recently as the 1990s.
Sorry about the grigglebot being on heat for a coldie today.
Should have known “ kissed” would overload its brain stem.
Also on Adani. ABCcess were zooming there wasn’t a shipment date/ route they could inform the greenslime of
I hope he has asbestos lined underpants as he will need them.
Joe Biden Calls Harry Reid ‘a Giant of Our History’ as Democrats Mourn His Death (29 Dec)
I see he didn’t say what sort of giant he was. I have a few ideas about that but I won’t share them.
Rex:
And yet if the trains/trucks stopped running tomorrow, there would be starvation in a fortnight because we’ve dumped all the food instead of storing it in a form that would be suitable for mass distribution.
Remember the biccies we used to make and send to Africa? Now we just give the bosses money because ‘national pride’ or something. (Which gets put into a Swiss account and the President escapes with the password.)
Why the hell aren’t we making something like a food bar that makes up an individuals daily nutrient/food need? Use a surplus of whatever we’ve got – we should be able to do something like that, then run the damn things through a gamma irradiator for a twenty year shelf life.
(Yes I know – we ran some cat food through the irradiator 45 years ago and a cat got crook so we mustn’t do that. When people are hungry they’ll eat cat food and like it. Hell, they’ll eat the cat first)
Rant over.
Many list of conditions including a recent one up thread showing Australia could have a car industry without subsidies and big Union. But the same old nagging nostalgic fantasies pop up to derail momentum.
Yea, ‘t was so. And is still, I hear, in divers places.
But in Australia’s case the unions did bleed them dry of funding.
Rex
This is thought Leader level hallucinating.
You realize we run a significant trade surplus with China, right?
also
Exports
Rank Markets(a)(b) Goods Services Total % share
1 China 134.7 18.5 153.2 32.6
Rank Sources(a)(b) Goods Services Total % share
1 China 78.3 3.5 81.8 19.4
We have a trade surplus of A$71 billion with China. Let’s get rid of this too.
Let’s stop trading with China, impose tariffs and quotas and everything will be fine. Who cares about living standards. This level of hubris is just unreal.
But keep kicking the long dead Australia car industry as if it was some sort of unique aberration.
Because class.
A lot of the ideologues here just don’t like people making stuff. The thing about ‘the level playing field’ is how does only know, let alone some pubic ideologue on a government salary in Canbra (eg Tony Cole) how Japan, Thailand, South Korea, China or India subsidize their auto industries?
Also that their great hope of the traditional owners telling them to all go away (and thus cursing the mine to oblivion forever) failed. 294 votes to one in favour. And it seems that between royalties and the local kids getting work, only a few dissenters are still camping out in protest.
If an extinction rebellion protester is dismembered by a train while superglued to the tracks and the ABC is not around to run the cameras does it make any sound.
We do.
It’s called a Steak cooked rare.
The problem is:
people have the delusion that they can be healthy from eating Carbs
But keep kicking the long dead Australia car industry as if it was some sort of unique aberration. Because class.
A lot of the ideologues here just don’t like people making stuff. The thing about ‘the level playing field’ is how does anyone know, let alone some pubic ideologue on a government salary in Canbra (eg Tony Cole) how Japan, Thailand, South Korea, China or India subsidize their auto industries?
Thera was quite a bang. Not only did it wipe out the Mycenaean civilization but it caused them to migrate from Crete to Gaza where they became the Palestinians. And so the fallout from Thera still goes on three and a half millennia later.
Santorini was 3 times as big as Krakatoa but only about a 1/3 of the Tambora event. The damage to humanity Santorini did however was much more profound. Tambora brought on world wide famine and a year without Summer but Santorini destroyed the dominant civilization in the world at the time. The destruction of the Minoans and the Crete allowed those Spartan arseholes to rise and all the ME problems to commence.
Still today Santorini is beautiful and possibly my favourite Greek island.
But Dot, you’re just demonstrating class by not supporting grifting.
bespokesays:
December 29, 2021 at 8:17 pm
Not just BHP unfortunately, though diverting momentarily I do think other smaller miners do it far better than BHP just without the best tenements they command.
Regrettably heard the same BS in plenty of sites, sometimes even in prestart meeting FFS.
King Richard III may have saved princes in the Tower of London
JACQUELIN MAGNAY
LONDON
Were they murdered by their throne-hunting uncle? Or did Richard III secretly allow one of his nephews, heir Edward, to live in obscurity in a Devon village?
A small country church may provide important clues that Edward may have not have been killed for the crown, but was hidden on his half-brother’s land under a secret name to become Lord of the Manor and ‘Parker’ of a deer park, investigators say.
The historian who uncovered the remains of Richard III in a Leicester carpark in 2012, Philippa Langley, is leading the latest investigation about the disappearance of the two young princes, Edward, 12, and nine-year-old Richard, in the Tower of London five centuries ago.
The two boys, sons of Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville, became threats to Richard III’s claim to the throne during the Wars of the Roses when Edward IV died in 1483.
The widely held view is that Richard III, then the Duke of Gloucester, became the two princes’ Lord Protector and he put them in the tower for their protection, but they soon disappeared and were never seen again.
Bones of two children were found buried below a staircase in the Tower nearly 200 years later.
But new research of medieval documents has led investigators to a small church in Coldridge, Devon, on lands that had been seized at the time from Thomas Grey, Edward V’s half brother, the London newspaper The Telegraph reported.
They say the church’s effigy of “John Evans”, could be Edward V because of numerous clues and symbols dotted throughout the church.
One of the investigators of the project, John Dike, told the Telegraph: “With all the secret symbols and clues, it sounds somewhat like the Da Vinci Code. But the discoveries inside this church in the middle of nowhere are extraordinary.
“The evidence suggests that Edward was sent to live out his days on his half-brother’s land as long as he kept quiet, as part of a deal reached between his mother and Richard III, and later with Henry Tudor.
“Once you take all the clues together, it does appear that the story of the princes in the tower may need to be rewritten.”
The Oz.
Interesting, but not sure why if you’re trying to hide someone – whose enemies would have murdered him as soon as they could get to him – you’d put “clues” in a nearby church.
Arks – I was never a china booster, although twenty years ago I was naive enough to think that the regime would collapse under the weight of its myriad absurdities, as most fascist regimes in human history invariably have. However:
John HoWARd: “The chinese people crave freedom as peoples on this planet have always done – and they will get it when they’re here in enough numbers to outvote you (err, and me)”
George W Bush: “They are very silly mediocre li’l slitty eyed peoples, but I believe in them more than I do you lot”
Tony Bliar: “Once the peoples of Hongkers have been sold out to their benevolent masters of the mainland, we’ll be able to purchase plastic dog turds and fake vomit until our cows are all dead of BSE”
And so our inglorious prostration before these vile fascists came to pass.
So JC,
If you were to take out grain, iron ore and coal sold to China, where would our massive trade surplus be?
(Trust this idiot blue-collar fellow that all the wine, whiskey, lobsters milk formula, bacon, beef, pork and fruit that goes to their Middle Class would not make much of an impact by comparison).
Hubris? Possibly.
A moron for daring to think that Australian Steel and plasterboard in Australian buildings, and proper quality Australian Aluminium for Australian patrol boats (especially given that Austal has just suffered a several hundred million dollar mistake because the Chinese metal going into our new patrol boats failed to pass quality standards and it all has to be reordered), absolutely.
Having to accept a silly name because my opinion differed to yours, arrived at from a different life path and more strongly argued? So be it…
Rabz:
Awww!
Wookadawiddlefaces!
Mum looks buggered…
There is a missing comma.
This should be lobsters, milk formula…
How could any free market ideologue even countenance ‘free trade’ the PRC? Government corporations aka ‘red chips’, slave labor and/or starvation wages.
Those lobsters are incredibly difficult to milk.
So a dollar earned by BHP, Rio and soon to be Adani just doesn’t have great value. Like. these dollars don’t matter because they’re earned by a sustainable private sector.
BoN
At that time the jumbo operators had been there from the start. And had lived in cars drilling the pilot holes to air legging the first drive and these ex car worker walked straight into 3/4 bedroom house demanding top dollar.
Free trade likely has more empirical proof than any other economic theory. By rejecting free trade, you are becoming an ideologue.
If we don’t make stuff, then what do we export to China (with a trade surplus)?
On the WEF- we now know of two lieborals with connection: Bragg and Hunt. I wonder who else?
It is milk formula for lobsters.
Or is it?
Lobster fishing.. isn’t classy enough for through leader.
Hang on, it was thought leader who said not supporting tariffs, subsidies and quotas for the car industry was a class thing.
FMD
All our historical examples had help.
The Germans got crushed under massive numerical and industrial superiority.
The Soviets had the burden of maintaining an unwilling Empire-In-All-But-Name without the benefit of a broadly supportive population, and the diplomatic and military pressures on it exaggerated the failures of its central economic planning. Without the pressure of the US and its Allies, it might still be painfully wobbling along today.
Venezuela died when Hugo Chavez did. Though it was gangrenous well beforehand. Peer competition from all its neighbours got it, long before those debbil-debbil gringos did.
Same for Argentina. It is still rattling, barely. Brazil and Bolivia are perilously close to breakdown, only that leftist nostalgia (and PRC export dollars for the former’s resources) keep their systems alive
China has yet to be properly challenged. Simply because too many folk at present see the opportunity to get rich off their backs, and are willing to risk being eaten alive and all their wealth and value stolen by the PRC, in order to make their fortunes.
Orange Man Bad gave it a good go. And now we have Joe…
This sounds stupid but then again the government has seemingly tried to destroy tourism for near on 21 consecutive months.
I thought ‘free trade’ was woven around the ‘theory of comparative advantage’. Sack clothe and port or something. So boring and out of date.
Also that their great hope of the traditional owners telling them to all go away
Yet I never saw one aboriginal in the whole time I was contracted on the tenement. Plenty of jack & jilleroos and the Station Manager from Moray Downs would be out to say g’day from time to time. Till the coal became worth something, funny that.
Rex Angersays:
December 29, 2021 at 7:29 pm
I heard this rumor that Governments tell plenty of lies,
So do you.
Confirmed. Richard Cranium is employed by the government!
No, SRR did the intellectual equivalent of a Frenchman visiting the Northbridge fleshpots with a sniffle upthread, and said that the car manufacturing industry, its tariffs and widely agreed (including you me and Arky) grifting was beneficial to the working class.
She also tried to claim that the $8 billion spent on Nosferaflu had only benefitted folk who wanted to be Karens or Commissars or something.
I dunno. I think her blood sugar was low from lack of pizza, so her argument really made no sense. 🙂
What if China simply decided to not buy from us? They are after all, making substantial inroads in Africa…
The clues were put there after he had died?
Queen Woodville was Edward IV’s widow, she later married Henry Tudor, so was also mother of Henry VIII.
So there’s a coupla reasons why the bloke didn’t have much to worry about so long as he kept very quiet, until 1547, at least.
I’m not even convinced that tourism is that massive either, when you look into the relative makeup of the industry.
The hotels, tour companies and bussers do most of it, but the attractions tend to be quite generic.
The industry is also horribly volatile, and subject even more to the perceptions of the sending nation than it is ours.
Every time China gets snotty, the heavily organised and choreographed busloads of tourists (and the dodgy conduct associated with them) suddenly dry up nationwide…
All poisoned, no doubt.
With crossbows.
The factories at Broady and Geelong gave secure, ongoing employment to many, it enabled them to take out mortgages and raise families.
You know, it’s fucking disgusting putting down an industry that is sustainable and doesn’t require government assistance while also blocking consumers from choice.
Lobster exports was/is a sustainable sector. How about we see detractors here, catch the fucking things in the open ocean, ensure these fuckers are kept alive while transported on a plane to the northern hemisphere without killing them and finally delivering them to restaurants in various cities. Yep, it’s so low tech. FMD.
They are deeply hated in Africa.
Their infrastructure is dodgy and often exclusive of the local jobs they promised, the lending is predatory and the racist behaviour towards their hosts is widely known and considered appalling.
The other issue in Africa is the security of the logistics chain. The Belt and Road is not the behemoth its propagandists proclaim it to be, to all us Strategic Rivals in the West…
You’re right because they classify business trips, it is dodgy, but even these have been impacted. Look at how the retarded ALP Premiers cut their fiefs off from everyone.
When Broadmeadows closed, The Australian said 1 in 2 workers there was from a Non English Speaking Background, I forget what the percentage of 2nd Generation workers was, but it was substantial.
So, basically an ALP patronage Machine, probably as Chifley had intended.
When you look at it in those Terms, whatever the Government spent propping up Ford and GMH since 1960 and 1948, the real cost was many multiples of that.
OK, since you are crabby and just looking for an excuse to fight, let me engage in a pincer movement by saying you have missed my point, and further denounce your accusations that I am being shellfish and cray-cray by saying that by sheer volume and value, lobsters alone do not and cannot make us a foreign trade surplus with China.
We are all but prawns in the great game…
Clearly they were not secure or ongoing.
Farming and mining are secure, highest productivity, highest inter industry multipliers, highest export earners, lowest (or negative) effective rates of protection.
Rex reveals himself as a Slaaneshi cultist.
Progress!
You do really know fvckall about history, don’t you? The widow of Edward IV was Elizabeth Woodville, her daughter, Elizabeth of York, married Henry Tudor and was the mother of Henry VIII…
I do get it, Dot.
Remember that my hobby is highly dependent on people coming out for a ride. They, of all the various tourist groups Australia-wide, are about the only folks doing reasonably well with domestic consumption alone.
Everyone not locked down indefinitely and repeatedly (sorry, Victorians. It’s been shit. 🙁 ) have had massive years these 2020-21 seasons. And were all deeply scared of State governments shitting themselves and repeating the first half of 2020 with the coming of border relaxations and Omicron.
Tourism from overseas isn’t an Industry, it’s exploitation of workers and subsidised by Government.
Ick!
Share my disease? 🙂
Let’s try that again, corrected for your actual employment, Grigs my darling…
And people wonder why I don’t engage with the shouty moron with the English skills of a recently arrived refugee.
Shut up Ed. Stop annoying people.
In the end no. Not enough grift to keep them hear and really the only way to do so is a complete buy out of the Holden leaving us with expensive 80’s model cars.
And having spent some 9 years watching good frontline patient care, medical and Allied Health folk screwed around by the bureaucrats allegedly ‘managing’ them and rewarding themselves for their own failures with ever-bigger budgets for ever-diminishing services and returns on investment, I can say that with certainty Grigory…