Open Thread – Tues 4 Jan 2022


The Rape of Europa, Francisco de Goya, 1772

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Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 7:47 pm

rosiesays:
January 9, 2022 at 7:43 pm
I’m going to assume covid deaths are easier to pick because…

I’m going to posit that you could gather every Nobel Laureate of the last 50 years and not one of them could make any sense out of that comment.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 7:48 pm

Reality says that there’s a Supply Chain crisis, Australian produced food, particularly Meat and Fish but also paper products, isn’t getting to the Supermarkets because the relevant factories have largely shut down due to Covid infection rules.

Reality, from a bloke intimately involved in the logistics of the matter, is that Grigs is again so wrong that if I had a means of dropping an SCT Logistics facility (as one mere example among many) in any capital city, comprising multiple warehouses full of everything from dunny roll to CV joints to dogfood, beer and Pepsi cans on its head, I would.

Fools being panicked by Grigs’ compadres among the media and bugman classes, combined with moronic transportation bureaucracies’ demands locally and internationally (e.g. You cannot move a single 20-foot container off the ports of Los Angeles or Long Beach unless you are unionised and your truck is less than 5 years old) and/or stevedore union fuckery in Oz because EBAs are still being negotiated, combined with China being dicks and hoarding every ISO container they can get, and Western corporates’ and merchants’ cultish devotion to just-in-time logistics, is what is causing shortages and inflations and so forth.

The loo paper folks never actually ran out in 2020- The previously well-tuned delivery systems of every retailer in the country shat themselves (deliberate choice of pun, Cats) because people did first, and panic-demand completely overwhelmed supply.

Fuck off and hoard your skinsuits somewhere else, Grigory.

Roger
Roger
January 9, 2022 7:48 pm

That is a work-shopped phrase.

The journalistic hive mind at work.

So much easier for them as individuals not to have to think or test a story by asking inconvenient questions.

This is a generation that has been spoon fed since Grade 1.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 7:52 pm

You’ve been absent a few days and there’s been speculation.

Only on your part. Unless Struth or his little sycophant Shit Dribbler decided to ask if I had had a clot shot and died…

Tell us, in your own words, how you got the Pfizer [or the A-Z or the Moderna or the Novavax]
and you were as sick as a fucking dawg fer a few days but now you’re slowly coming good.

Easy- You are over 2 months late in your assertion.

Next outburst of stupidity masquerading as a question?

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 7:53 pm

Ed doesn’t like my comment.
Woot.
In positive news from abroad, face masks provide a moderate protection against cold winds blowing.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 7:55 pm

In positive news from abroad, face masks provide a moderate protection against cold winds blowing.

They don’t prevent snow getting up your nose…

…But they do help to stop it getting chilled.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 9, 2022 7:57 pm

In Rugby news I enjoyed reading today:

Israel Folau has dominated in his first game in his return to rugby in Japan’s League One, scoring two tries in Shining Arcs Tokyo-Bay Urayasu’s thrilling 24-23 win over Kobelco Kobe Steelers.
The 32-year old, who is hoping to return to international rugby for Tonga after World Rugby changed their eligibility laws in late 2021, took less than 15 minutes to announce his arrival in Japan, storming through opponents Kobe Steelers for Arcs’ first try of the match.

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2022 7:57 pm

Ahh … back in Chelsea

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 7:58 pm

Don’t jinx me Rex!. I should be too far south for snow, I plan to stick close to the Mediterranean for as long as possible before heading north to catch my plane home.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 8:07 pm

Don’t jinx me Rex!.

Heehee! 😀

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 9, 2022 8:27 pm

Is agreeing that omicron doesn’t attack the lungs an admission that delta and all the previous variants were all potentially life threatening illnesses that did, indeed, kill millions of people?

No.
Re-read what you’ve written. The two things bear no logical relation to each other at all.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 9, 2022 8:29 pm

Dr Faustussays:
January 9, 2022 at 1:33 pm
Rain.
A sensational save by plucky England, after Jonny Bairstow’s heroic first innings scatters the Aussie bowling

.

My place in Bangalore is assured.

Interesting Cricket Fact: Marnus Labuschagne‘s surname is not pronounced ‘La Boosh Nay’.

No, no. It’s pronounced in a way very similar to the dying gurgle of a hanged man. Two Seth Effricans have spent the afternoon pointing this out to us over beers.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 9, 2022 8:37 pm

1. Shut the borders.
2. Isolate the vulnerable.
3. Offer free and voluntary vaccines when they became available?

More to the point: Why weren’t treatments using repurposed drugs/drug cocktails of known safety and at least theoretical efficacy investigated with all speed while the “vaccines” were still in development?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2022 8:40 pm

This is homer paxton left of obliviousness. He’s now gone to my “I’m from Missouri bin”

Shit.
“I’m from Missouri. Show me.”
I haven’t heard that expression in so long.
Thirty years.
I don’t miss it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 9, 2022 8:41 pm

A question Lizzie.
Last week you got very wound up about the possibility of litigation arising from blog commentary which is “actionable”.
What are your thoughts on blog hosts removing key qualifying sentences from comments, which completely changes the me aning of the comment, and with no visible audit trail?

Whoa there, Sancho. General discussion was about new legislation to stop internet ‘bullying’. If things get removed, then only screen shots can prove they were said.

My thoughts are totally against any censorship or litigation that is outside the bounds of existing defamation laws that apply already to comments made non-anonymously about real people. I made this anti-censorship view clear to Arky and it was one of the reasons I walked away from here a while ago. Then I had an email conversation with Arky and realised how messed up he was over the site, and advised a short break. I came in then and said I wanted to leave and asked people to be kind to Arky, due to my private consversation with him. We had both been deeply hurt here. It happens.

As Hairy says to me over my obsession with a range of internet reviews of ‘Succession’ characters.

It is what it is, he says of some of the psychologising Nothing is ever simple in human relationships.
Perhaps that is because, as Shakespeare suggested for Hamlet, we are God’s work.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 9, 2022 8:41 pm

Why weren’t treatments using repurposed drugs/drug cocktails of known safety and at least theoretical efficacy investigated with all speed while the “vaccines” were still in development?

Because Pfizer would have lost out on a hundred billion dollars.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2022 8:43 pm

Interesting Cricket Fact: Marnus Labuschagne‘s surname is not pronounced ‘La Boosh Nay’.

Labia change? I’m amused the guy who was breaking all the women’s swimming records got beaten into 5th place last week, by a lady who is transitioning into a man.

Trans Male Swimmer Beats UPenn Trans Female Swimmer Lia Thomas (8 Jan)

Thomas is a man presenting himself as a woman while his opponent, Iszac Henig, is a woman transitioning to become a man. His loss occurred at UPenn’s tri-meet with the Yale and Dartmouth swim teams, where he won both the 200-year and 500-yard freestyle while scoring fifth in the 100-yard, according to the Daily Mail.

“Stunned parents at the meet held at UPenn’s pool in Philadelphia gasped as Yale swimmer Iszac Henig easily beat out [her] opponents in the women’s 100-yard freestyle with a time of 49.57 seconds,” noted the Mail. “Thomas finished fifth with a time of 52.84 seconds.”

Though Henig had her breasts removed, she reportedly delayed hormone treatments to compete in women’s swimming.

It’s carnage! Especially of women’s lady bits. The plastic surgeon won gold.

Zipster
Zipster
January 9, 2022 8:44 pm

Because Pfizer would have lost out on a hundred billion dollars.

think of the commissions

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 8:49 pm

Kazakh Prez gives shoot to kill orders to stop arsonists and looters.
A bit late, but it’s the only way to stop a Color Revolution.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 8:54 pm

Eyriesays:
January 9, 2022 at 8:37 pm
1. Shut the borders.
2. Isolate the vulnerable.
3. Offer free and voluntary vaccines when they became available?
More to the point: Why weren’t treatments using repurposed drugs/drug cocktails of known safety and at least theoretical efficacy investigated with all speed while the “vaccines” were still in development

Search string: hydroxychloroquine covid
Data range: 01/01/20-30/06/2020

975 articles on pubmed.

Undoubtedly many more studies, at least double because pubmed does not index all journals and the search string is restricted because they weren’t just looking at HCQ. Another problem is that it isn’t possible to set up a full study overnight, there can be many hurdles to even getting approval for a study so it can take months to get the ball rolling.

BTW the other day I read about the potential of hesperidin, a compound in citrus fruits, which offers some benefits re covid. I’ve known about the general health value of hesperidin which is why I like oranges and try to eat some of the pith. Pity about all the fructose.

JC
JC
January 9, 2022 8:58 pm

Then I had an email conversation with Arky and realised how messed up he was over the site, and advised a short break. I came in then and said I wanted to leave and asked people to be kind to Arky, due to my private consversation with him. We had both been deeply hurt here. It happens.

I can understand that, liz. Threatening people on threads, pretending you own the site, choosing sides in stoushes… thought leadership is a tough gig. It drains you if you’re not careful.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 8:59 pm

I’ve known about the general health value of hesperidin which is why I like oranges and try to eat some of the pith.

Can a human absorb any hesperidin at all and doesn’t the pith contain an anti nutritive factor?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2022 9:00 pm

callisays:

January 9, 2022 at 6:44 pm

Uh oh!

Erk…bowled Smith caught Warner.

The heavens must be angry.

This segment has been brought to you by Sandvik 80 grit trade professional.

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2022 9:02 pm

Has anyone done in depth research of nutrition of COVID patients and COVID deaths?

It would be fascinating stuff (yes I am a nerd).

miltonf
miltonf
January 9, 2022 9:03 pm

Dickless uptick for JC

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2022 9:05 pm

A bit late, but it’s the only way to stop a Color Revolution.

It’s not a colour revolution it’s an LPG revolution.
Price controls are always so much fun!
Until you can’t afford them.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 9:05 pm

Huge Arky fan here, so don’t get me wrong, I’m not bagging the guy.
But …
Arky always took what appeared to be the winning side in stoushes, earning him little respec’.
The hounds turned on him when he initiated his own stoush, which was no surprise, except perhaps to Arky.

Cassie of Sydney
January 9, 2022 9:06 pm

“We had both been deeply hurt here”

Lizzie, Arky was more than capable of dishing it out here. He was no innocent. I remember the very nasty pile on he instigated of me back in March 2020. It lasted a whole afternoon….over a comment I wrote where I accurately described three women punching each other up over toilet paper at a Woolworths as “scum, peasants, trash”. He accused me of racism. I was deeply hurt by that. My comment had nothing to do with their race, it was about their behaviour.

Barry
Barry
January 9, 2022 9:07 pm

JC says: January 9, 2022 at 6:29 pm
Barry
There’s no limit to Liar Party stupidity…….

Agreed, hence I fear that (to mangle a quote) The Victorian Government can remain irrational longer than I can remain solvent.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2022 9:13 pm

Search string: hydroxychloroquine covid

That got this lady in trouble. After which ever since she has being laying waste to the Cathedral.

Over the past week, after a blog post I made about how Joe Rogan was disrupting the mainstream media, I had the pleasure of being interviewed by former Fox Houston newswoman Ivory Hecker about what the future of the mainstream media looks like.

You may remember Ivory as the woman who was fired after interrupting a live, on-air weather report this past summer to claim that Fox was “muzzling” her, before turning over her evidence to Project Veritas.

A follow up interview by Project Veritas revealed that Hecker was reportedly reprimanded by the network for bringing up hydroxychloroquine during an interview and that Fox 26’s Sales Coordinator “admitted on tape that the CDC is heavily influencing stations such as theirs due to the amount of money they are pouring into ad campaigns – and how that, in turn, affects the network’s coverage of major health issues.”

Mainstream Media Is “Being Swallowed” By Joe Rogan (8 Jan)

He goes on. Interesting datum that Rogan gets as many views per show as the top four Fox shows combined. Suck on that Murdoch kiddies.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 9, 2022 9:13 pm

I don’t think people realise the level of mental illness in the US.
All you have to do to see it is watch Kitchen Nightmares & watch these restaurant owners serve up absolute abominations & then are shocked when Ramsay is critical.

miltonf
miltonf
January 9, 2022 9:13 pm

The comments made by Arky on why comments were closed on his articles or why he might allow some where just nasty.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 9:13 pm

It’s not a colour revolution it’s an LPG revolution.
Price controls are always so much fun!

Jen Psaki denied U.S. involvement at a Presser the other day, without even being asked.
As Bismarck is quoted as saying:

Nothing is Proven True until it has been Officially Denied.

calli
calli
January 9, 2022 9:24 pm

Arky deleting comments and saying mean things is all water under the bridge. The poor bugger has had his house burned and lost all his beloved tools, and probably a whole lot more. He has absented himself from the blog for his own mental health, which I think is a wise choice.

Let it rest. Please.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 9:24 pm

Dotsays:
January 9, 2022 at 9:02 pm
Has anyone done in depth research of nutrition of COVID patients and COVID deaths?

It would be fascinating stuff (yes I am a nerd).

The research undoubtedly exists. Largely hidden from the public and medical profession only thinks about those problematic vaccines. Shouldn’t be too hard to find. Can you use Google advanced search? (:

I came across the hesperidin jazz a few days ago. I’ll try to track that down for you. …
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34444960/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34438146/

With omicron now dominant I’m not worried.

Be careful, people doing their own research have exposed themselves to risks because they filled themselves up with zinc and risked a copper deficiency, or took bucket loads of D without adding magnesium and K2 to the mix.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 9, 2022 9:25 pm

The Biden Administration really is in a bind over Russian.
Every day is one day closer to Nord Stream 2 opening.
Meaning every day is one day closer to less gas transiting the Ukraine.
Biden needs a stable client state Ukraine because if it falls apart they have no control over what could leak out of the place.
Hence the US interference in Kazakhstan to draw at least some Russian resources away from its western borders.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 9:28 pm

Huge Arky fan here, so don’t get me wrong, I’m not bagging the guy.
But …

Fuck off, Grigory.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2022 9:28 pm

I’m sure the CIA is having a wonderful time in Kazakhstan. Which should nicely distract them from chasing old ladies with US flags in the States. But the reason the revolution has occurred is that the people are fed up with the wankers running the place (exhibit A: a Mr Nazarbayev) and they went nuts when the government lifted price controls on LPG last week, which tripled the cost of filling their cars. Not being a rich country that was a big pain in their pockets.

Then, of course the government did backflip and pike on the price controls., but by then it was too late. The Islamic kiddies are the wild card in this. If they can get a degree of momentum the whole thing could become quite interesting. Afghanistan is only over on the other side of neighbouring Uzbekistan, with porous borders, it would be a quick drive for unemployed ferals to get to the action.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 9:29 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
January 9, 2022 at 9:13 pm
Search string: hydroxychloroquine covid

That got this lady in trouble. After which ever since she has being laying waste to the Cathedral.

Over the past week, after a blog post I made about how Joe Rogan was disrupting the mainstream media, I had the pleasure of being interviewed by former Fox Houston newswoman Ivory Hecker about what the future of the mainstream media looks like.

You may remember Ivory as the woman who was fired after interrupting a live, on-air weather report this past summer to claim that Fox was “muzzling” her, before turning over her evidence to Project Veritas.

A follow up interview by Project Veritas revealed that Hecker was reportedly reprimanded by the network for bringing up hydroxychloroquine during an interview and that Fox 26’s Sales Coordinator “admitted on tape that the CDC is heavily influencing stations such as theirs due to the amount of money they are pouring into ad campaigns – and how that, in turn, affects the network’s coverage of major health issues.”

Mainstream Media Is “Being Swallowed” By Joe Rogan (8 Jan)

He goes on. Interesting datum that Rogan gets as many views per show as the top four Fox shows combined. Suck on that Murdoch kiddies.

More power to Rogan. He is an adventurous and intelligent chap that deserves his success. I disagree with him about “functional training” with kettle bells. Untrained people taking that up are going to get injured.

Gab
Gab
January 9, 2022 9:30 pm

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has extended the state’s pandemic declaration for another three months under new contentious public health laws.

Lock downs won’t be on the cards but forced injections will be.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/politics/daniel-andrews-extends-pandemic-declaration-for-three-months-due-to-omicron/news-story/bb5aeebef219dcaabb942e237db10d99

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 9:30 pm

Nothing is Proven True until it has been Officially Denied.

Which is why it is a well established that Grigory rogers kittens, is aroused by the smell of formaldehyde, gypsum and flensing knives, and lives in abject fear of birds…

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 9:30 pm

Cassie says:

I wrote where I accurately described three women punching each other up over toilet paper at a Woolworths as “scum, peasants, trash”. He accused me of racism. I was deeply hurt by that. My comment had nothing to do with their race, it was about their behaviour.

1. your comment was a cheap shot at the aboriginal woman who had a trolley full of toilet paper.
She was attacked by 2 polynesian women who claimed the right to take her shopping.
So she did nothing wrong.
2. Arky arced up over your calling the polynesian women trash & etc., because kiwis suffer Stockholm Syndrome and tell themselves that polynesians are like their cuddly pets.
Here’s a few facts for you:
Toilet paper is an hygienic necessity.We’ve got a Supply Chain crisis now, the shelves are bare of paper products because many of the factories have shut down.
If some witches bail you up in the supermarket and try to take your shopping because there’s none left, are you going to hand it over?

Gab
Gab
January 9, 2022 9:32 pm

miltonfsays:
January 9, 2022 at 9:13 pm
The comments made by Arky on why comments were closed on his articles or why he might allow some where just nasty.

I thought they were hilarious. Good for him.

Cassie of Sydney
January 9, 2022 9:32 pm

“1. your comment was a cheap shot at the aboriginal woman who had a trolley full of toilet paper.
She was attacked by 2 polynesian women who claimed the right to take her shopping.
So she did nothing wrong.”

Listen Dick Ed. There was no aboriginal woman involved and there were no Polynesian women involved. Now fuck .

Cassie of Sydney
January 9, 2022 9:33 pm

Now fuck off Dick Ed.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 9, 2022 9:34 pm

There were dozens of posts about various toilet paper videos.
Arky thought it would great fun to focus only on Cassie’s comment to the exclusion of all others.
Which he did all day.
Pure bullying behaviour.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 9:37 pm

Bruce says:

I’m sure the CIA is having a wonderful time in Kazakhstan. Which should nicely distract them from chasing old ladies with US flags in the States.

You’re confusing the CIA with the FBI, Bruce.

Then, of course the government did backflip and pike on the price controls., but by then it was too late. The Islamic kiddies are the wild card in this.

Which is why the Government issued Shoot To Kill orders, Bruce.
Do you have a problem with the Police and Army in Kazakhstan shooting Islamic State terrorists, Bruce?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 9, 2022 9:38 pm

People have such short memories.
How few people remember the IPA & Tim Wilson’s campaign to stop raising the status of local councils a few years back.
Could you imagine councils passing COVID rules & regulations?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 9, 2022 9:41 pm

It was one of the only decent things the IPA did during the last decade.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 9, 2022 9:42 pm

Ta for that link to applicant submissions for Novak. Very enlightening in a number of ways, the tennis Australia rep who signed off on the exemption was named, the Vic government one not so but they did put his credentials up. A search of the net though had only had 1 person with the title and specialisation but no surprise his background is supressed unless you are a Linkedin member which I aren’t. I’d say I might be over target there. All I’ll have to say if him, he has extensive research in infectious diseases so seems sound.

Going on a limb here, looking more and more political and probably being driven from the PM’s office knee jerking to the negative sentiment. FFS even I can work out if you are going to go after someone who will stand their ground dot every i and cross every t. My guess is they never expected him to fight.

Cassie of Sydney
January 9, 2022 9:42 pm

“feelthebernsays:
January 9, 2022 at 9:41 pm
It was one of the only decent things the IPA did during the last decade.”

Yep…they’re usually all talk and no action…..maybe with Roskam gone they might just find some spine.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 9:43 pm

Toilet paper is an hygienic necessity.We’ve got a Supply Chain crisis now, the shelves are bare of paper products because many of the factories have shut down.

No we don’t, Grigory.

Fuck off.

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2022 9:44 pm

It was one of the only decent things the IPA did during the last decade.

Actually a few of the books they had really convinced some friends to stop worrying about gerballing and have deep respect for the heritage of our fastly eroding rights.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 9:45 pm

Which is why the Government issued Shoot To Kill orders, Bruce.
Do you have a problem with the Police and Army in Kazakhstan shooting Islamic State terrorists, Bruce?

Islamic State is not active in Kazakhstan, Grigory.

Unless you are privy some some Glowie information that is meant to make your controlled opposition sound plausible…*

*Not that even a 250-point IQ transplant would make your degree of retardation reversible.

#BugmenGonnaBug

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2022 9:46 pm

do youse ever say, go to a barbie and use the Aerogard or Bushman’s?

you know all up and down yr legs
a bit on the back of yr neck
squint and pucker and a squirt in the face

then later after the beers have worn off and you wake up off the couch and go to bed …do you recall the sticky, clammy, creepy feeling of the sheets that keeps you tossing and turning…?

yeah, that’s The Cat open thread today.

vitamin K and bullies and don’t mention Folau … racists

the fuck is wrong with you people ?

I’m gone for like 48 hrs and you’ve turned into humourless borg

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 9, 2022 9:49 pm

Ex the Russian transplants, Kazakhstan is muslim.
Sling enough resources at one small group (like the CIA has done) and they’ll do anything.
Once the resourcing stops, that one small group will fade away.
Also keep in mind the US is funding 5,000 private contractors still in Afghanistan which is only a short plane ride to Kazakhstan.
Doesn’t take much to stir the pot.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 9:49 pm

I’m gone for like 48 hrs and you’ve turned into humourless borg

Resistance is Voltage divided by Current…

#Snerk

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2022 9:49 pm

You’re confusing the CIA with the FBI, Bruce.

No, Ed, I am not.
Please do not be naive.
John Brennan is the species type.

Which is why the Government issued Shoot To Kill orders, Bruce.
Do you have a problem with the Police and Army in Kazakhstan shooting Islamic State terrorists, Bruce?

Popcorn prices are up. I do not like people killing each other though since once that happens they no longer get any more opportunities to repent.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 9, 2022 9:50 pm

There’s just a faint glimmer of hope that the Djoker affair may lead to the resignation of Scumo for pressuring officials.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 9:51 pm

I also recall you being less than pleasant to charming contributor Ellie on Old Catallaxy.
More than a few White Knights joined the Pile On too, a bigger deal than Arky accusing you of Racism, i’d say?

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2022 9:51 pm

I also recall you being less than pleasant to charming contributor Ellie on Old Catallaxy.

She’ll never fuck you bro.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2022 9:54 pm

Largely hypothetical but I am banned from the local pub here in Perth. Back to drinking in the ghetto for me. I fully expect to be banned from the cafe too at some stage this year too.

I might start work on a diary.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 9:54 pm

Grigory, I operate 130-odd tonne pieces of hardware that, under dynamic braking can generate sufficient retarding force to slow a trailing load of 2500 tons of assorted solid and liquid masses from 110km/h to walking pace on a steep downhill grade within a few minutes.

Your retardation could bring a fully loaded 30,000 tonne iron ore train AND all 3 of its powering locos to a complete halt from 80km/h in a single sentence.

Go to bed.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 9:55 pm

I do not like people killing each other though since once that happens they no longer get any more opportunities to repent.

So there’s no limit to how many people an Islamic State terrorist can kill without being shot dead, in your opinion, since he must always have the opportunity to repent?

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 9:55 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
January 9, 2022 at 9:46 pm
do youse ever say, go to a barbie and use the Aerogard or Bushman’s?

You are complaining about boring while complaining about the after effect of Aerogard? You boring little tit.

Razey
Razey
January 9, 2022 9:55 pm

Gabsays:
January 9, 2022 at 9:30 pm
Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has extended the state’s pandemic declaration for another three months under new contentious public health laws.

Lock downs won’t be on the cards but forced injections will be.

Like in physically holding someone down? Don’t think so.

Pulling an Austria may be a possibility in threatening fines/jail. In that case we could sneak across into NSW.

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2022 9:55 pm

Hey Ed,
do you type everything the crystal skull tells you to type ?

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 9:55 pm

Did you get a KnockBack, Dot?

srr
srr
January 9, 2022 9:56 pm

What Does This Mean?

Go to Bing & (not at work or around SJW’s), search
“american culture is centered around”

Does anyone why that’s been the result for over a day?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 9:58 pm

KnockBack

Grigory dreams of being knocked back by someone with a pulse.

Being rejected by your own skinsuits is pretty rough…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2022 9:59 pm

Islamic State is not active in Kazakhstan, Grigory.

Well…

Expert explains the “awakening” of radical Islamists in Kazakhstan (6 Jan)

The activities of nationalist organizations made possible the emergence in Kazakhstan of cells of radical Islamists who organized riots in a number of cities in the country. Military expert Viktor Murakhovsky told Izvestia about this on Thursday, January 6.

“Due to the fact that many NGOs operate on the territory of Kazakhstan, and in fact, there is quite simple access to the territory of (countries – Ed.) Of immigrants from Afghanistan, I mean not Afghans by nationality, but those who worked there as part of jihadist groups, and in Syria, and so on, the appearance of sleeping cells of jihadists, radical Islamists is not a secret, ”Murakhovsky said.

He also drew attention to the actions of a number of nationalist groups, including the “Russophobic”. According to Murakhovsky, the “awakening” of radical Islamists in Kazakhstan became possible with the connivance of the authorities.

On January 2, protests began in Kazakhstan. Residents of cities, dissatisfied with the rise in the cost of liquefied gas, came to the rallies. Fuel has risen in price from 60 tenge (10 rubles) to 120 (20 rubles) per liter. The authorities set up a government commission and promised to cut prices.

It only takes a few AKs and suddenly a bunch of innocent mosque attendees magically morph into the newly powerful “Islamic State In Kazakhstan”*.

* Kazakhs, please send your 1/8th zakat to me for the copyright on this name.

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2022 10:00 pm

You are complaining about boring

No Bong John, not boring … stupid

tell us another zinc/copper story

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 10:00 pm

Does anyone why that’s been the result for over a day?

Because some dickhead within the tunnels of BigTech thought it was funny to muck with the algorithm to generate some fake outrage and further the myth that all non-Democrat pressure factions within the USA are.systemically racist.

Next question?

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 10:01 pm

Razey says:

Like in physically holding someone down? Don’t think so.

Exactly like that!
3 experienced blokes will restrain anybody, one nurse gives the shot, rinse and repeat at the next house.
Add in an armed Cop with Shoot to Kill Orders and a coupla teams will vax an entire suburb in a fortnite.

Razey
Razey
January 9, 2022 10:01 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
January 9, 2022 at 10:00 pm
You are complaining about boring

No Bong John, not boring … stupid

tell us another zinc/copper story

Zinc deficiency is common in the obese & elderly. The exact demographic most impacted by covid. There may be something to this.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 10:02 pm

It only takes a few AKs and suddenly a bunch of innocent mosque attendees magically morph into the newly powerful “Islamic State In Kazakhstan”*.

A convenient excuse to send the Spetsnatz and Airborne troops in to prop up a client state. Indeed…

rickw
rickw
January 9, 2022 10:02 pm

There’s just a faint glimmer of hope that the Djoker affair may lead to the resignation of Scumo for pressuring officials.

Yes please! Our Political Arsehole Class need to be caught up with!

Razey
Razey
January 9, 2022 10:03 pm

Ed Casesays:
January 9, 2022 at 10:01 pm
Razey says:

Like in physically holding someone down? Don’t think so.

Exactly like that!
3 experienced blokes will restrain anybody, one nurse gives the shot, rinse and repeat at the next house.
Add in an armed Cop with Shoot to Kill Orders and a coupla teams will vax an entire suburb in a fortnite.

Might get the first shot in. But most would be ready for the next shot, wont be as easy. They better be prepared for their life to end. Doesn’t seem worth the trouble if a number of them meet their maker.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 10:04 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
January 9, 2022 at 10:00 pm
You are complaining about boring

No Bong John, not boring … stupid

tell us another zinc/copper story

To be as stupid as you I would need to consume an oz of New Guinea Gold, a field of green meanies, and a carton of Jack Daniels.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 10:04 pm

3 experienced blokes will restrain anybody, one nurse gives the shot, rinse and repeat at the next house.
Add in an armed Cop with Shoot to Kill Orders and a coupla teams will vax an entire suburb in a fortnite.

Grigory can have mine.

The prospect of actual human contact (for the first time in…forever) seems to excite him.

Just remember to wash the viscera off and hide the evidence before they doorknock you this time, eh Grigory?

Razey
Razey
January 9, 2022 10:05 pm

rickwsays:
January 9, 2022 at 10:02 pm
There’s just a faint glimmer of hope that the Djoker affair may lead to the resignation of Scumo for pressuring officials.

Yes please! Our Political Arsehole Class need to be caught up with!

Of course ole’ DickEars will come out looking like second coming of Jesus.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 9, 2022 10:06 pm

Who owns Bing, srr?
Don’t pretend you don’t know.

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2022 10:08 pm

Zinc deficiency is common in the obese & elderly

so is death
spooky right?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2022 10:08 pm

A convenient excuse to send the Spetsnatz and Airborne troops in to prop up a client state.

No doubt Langley thinks that too. It’s fun to watch this stuff and imagine what is going on in the corridors of the alphabet agencies. In this case it’s nice that Putin is distracted from Ukraine and that the CIA is likewise distracted from domestic farting about. The cherry on top would be if Joe handballs the press relations on this kerfuffle to Kamala. That would be most entertaining!

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 10:09 pm

There’s just a faint glimmer of hope that the Djoker affair may lead to the resignation of Scumo for pressuring officials.

Remember Brittany Higgins?
Scotty claimed to have never been told that a rape had happened in a Minister’s Office even tho his minders were talking to the victim a coupla days later.
He’ll keep on Weaseling and take them off the cliff with him, unfortunately.
The MSM are in a bind tho.
Do they attack Scotty or go with the AntiVaxxers Bad narrative.
So far it’s been the latter, tho if they can land a few kicks on Scotty’s head, they will.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 9, 2022 10:10 pm

But most would be ready for the next shot, wont be as easy. They better be prepared for their life to end. Doesn’t seem worth the trouble if a number of them meet their maker.

Some citizens may decide if they are going to Hell they will have an Honour Guard.

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2022 10:10 pm

Listen Bong John … you cant do humour so you shouldn’t try

you just build a mountain of alleged facts and climb to the top

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 9, 2022 10:11 pm

I’m watching the 3 part Mark Felton series on the last days of Himmler.
It’s incredible more is known & documented & freely available about the end of WWII than what’s freely available about January 6th.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 10:17 pm

Zinc deficiency is common in the obese & elderly. The exact demographic most impacted by covid. There may be something to this.

Zinc deficiency is endemic to all people who don’t eat Red Meat as the main part of their diet, which is nearly everybody.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 10:24 pm

It’s incredible more is known & documented & freely available about the end of WWII than what’s freely available about January 6th.

In both cases, the Official Story is BullShit
The entire Official Story of Hitler’s last days in the Bunker was written by Hugh Trevor -Roper from the account told to him by eyewitness and Test Pilot Hannah Ritsch.
Ritsch was the only person there to survive the War and she later denounced Trevor-Roper’s account as lies.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 10:25 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
January 9, 2022 at 10:10 pm
Listen Bong John … you cant do humour so you shouldn’t try

you just build a mountain of alleged facts and climb to the top

I wasn’t being funny. I was being truthful.

local oaf
January 9, 2022 10:27 pm

Rex Anger says:
January 9, 2022 at 9:49 pm

I’m gone for like 48 hrs and you’ve turned into humourless borg

Resistance is Voltage divided by Current…

Inductive reasoning tells me that any reactance to the borg will result in considerable impedance to current progress!

Razey
Razey
January 9, 2022 10:28 pm

Interesting video.

Why would the Ukraine government be harassing Kazak’s (in the Ukraine) organizing protests from there? I thought they hated Russia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBZVTGQRPWQ

Indolent
Indolent
January 9, 2022 10:29 pm
MatrixTransform
January 9, 2022 10:29 pm

I wasn’t being funny. I was being truthful

nice try

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Ritsch was the only person there to survive the War and she later denounced Trevor-Roper’s account as lies.

Plenty who were in the bunker survived not only the war, but for decades afterward.
Parody accounts should keep their bullshit to a level where it is plausible.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 9, 2022 10:33 pm

Attention. This is a Captain Obvious announcement.

Ed is a retired taxi driver.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 9, 2022 10:33 pm

Evening Cyclone Tiffany. She’ll give the northern Cape a touch up tomorrow.

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Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 10:37 pm

Plenty who were in the bunker survived not only the war, but for decades afterward.

Not in Hitler’s inner Circle.
In any case, Trevor Ropers accounts of Hitler’s last days came from interviews with Hannah Ritsch, there’s never been any dispute over that.
Ritsch agreed with Trevor-Roper’s history in general, but she said that he lied about the specifics.

Parody accounts should keep their bullshit to a level where it is plausible.

I could say the same about your comments, and i’d be right.

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2022 10:39 pm

Bong John,
I know you can do words and you can have a decent shot at facts too (as long as you can get get run up) , but seriously unless you’ve worked on a building site then leave badinage to the experts.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 9, 2022 10:40 pm

Spoke about crikkit stuff with some people who could be said to be in the know about such things this arvo. Odds on to be:

The Fat Paki stays in the XI, but as an opener with Midget Fuckstick;
Harris goes;
Boland stays;
Hazlewood (if fit) returns, and if so:
Starc goes.

See what happens.

Zipster
Zipster
January 9, 2022 10:41 pm

Ambulances have been going all day on the nearby main road, must be all those vaccinatees taking one for the team.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 9, 2022 10:42 pm

Also:

No ‘Wadey’;
No ‘Paino*’ and especially
No ‘Burnsy’.

*Not his actual nickname.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 10:44 pm

Zinc deficiency is endemic to all people who don’t eat Red Meat as the main part of their diet, which is nearly everybody.

Carbohydrates don’t kill people, Grigory.

Gypsum does. The question is of dosage.

Any mass of over 10 tonnes is reputed to be instantly lethal

#Poisoned

#MostLikely

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 10:45 pm

Parody accounts should keep their bullshit to a level where it is plausible.

I could say the same about your comments, and i’d be right.

He’s so cute when he projects, isn’t he? 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 9, 2022 10:49 pm

Traudl Junge, Yitlah’s private secretary was in his ‘inner circle’ for years, including at conferences, meetings etc with the rest of those dickheads.

She volunteered to stay with him after most of his admin staff were bundled off south of Berlin as Konev and Zhukov’s armies were breaking into its suburbs. She watched him and Eva Braun walk into his office for the last time, heard the shot and also watched him being carried out and into the garden outside the bunker, where Hitler and his misso were set alight.

She found her way to what would become one of the non-Soviet zones, was quite talkative to a lot of interested people and ended up with decent speaking roles in several WWII docos in the late 1970s.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 9, 2022 10:50 pm

Plenty who were in the bunker survived not only the war, but for decades afterward.
Parody accounts should keep their bullshit to a level where it is plausible.

Sal, wasn’t Trevor -Roper one of the historians who came unstuck over whether the “Hitler Diaries” were authentic?

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 10:53 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
January 9, 2022 at 10:39 pm
Bong John,
I know you can do words and you can have a decent shot at facts too (as long as you can get get run up) , but seriously unless you’ve worked on a building site then leave badinage to the experts.

I have worked on a building site. Not for long, just to earn some quick bucks during the break. Worst day was in the Qld December summer removing all the rubbish from the rooftop of a partially burnt shopping centre complex.

You aint no expert at humour. Too repetitive. Try something different.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 9, 2022 10:53 pm

Also, Hannah Ritsch the ladeeeee test pilot was a fervent, devoted Nazi.

Of course she would lie her goose-stepping box off if anyone was critical of Hoitlah. It would ruin the noble ‘dying at the head of his troops in the final victory over Bolshevism’ thing he had going at the end.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 10:56 pm

Why ask Sal?
Trevor-Roper was hoaxed on the Hitler Diaries, simple as that.
His Histories were sound, but Hannah Ritsch was his only informant on Hitler’s last days and she said that he lied about what she had told him.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 10:57 pm

Someone needs to do a Downfall rant starring Grigs as Adolf, raging about who’s been lying about his bunker.

In his bunker…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 10:59 pm

His Histories were sound, but Hannah Ritsch was his only informant on Hitler’s last days and she said that he lied about what she had told him.

Heheh.

Grigs backpedalling and redirecting his gypsum-fuelled wrongology in a frantic (and futile) effort to stave off yet another self-inflicted beclownment.

If I didn’t enjoy my job so much, I’d smile at his failures all the way back to Perth tomorrow instead… 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 9, 2022 11:00 pm

She found her way to what would become one of the non-Soviet zones

Looking her up on the internet, it seems she lived, very quietly, in Australia for a couple of years…

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 11:02 pm

Hannah Ritsch,was also World Glider Champion several times and also the first person to fly a helicopter indoors, which she demonstrated to some skeptical American Businessmen in the 1930s
There’s a great photo of Hannah Ritsch and a group of female helicopter pilots honoured by JFK at the White House in 1961.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 11:02 pm

The Sun’s Benefits Are Way More than Vitamin D

While I am no fan of this channel he makes some good points in this video. The infra red idea is very interesting. There is evidence that near infra red therapy has many therapeutic benefits. More broadly only last night I read the below.

Keep in mind this article is from Sweden. Not entirely applicable to Aus but I still think we could ease up on the sun phobia message.

On the Relationship Between Sun Exposure and All-Cause Mortality
Increasing sun exposure is related to lower prevalence of death in cardiovascular disease (CVD), type 2 diabetes, and other noncancer non-CVD. In this chapter we aim to make a short update on the knowledge regarding sun exposure and all-cause mortality. Data support the hypothesis that low sun exposure habits are a major risk factor for all-cause mortality. Low sun exposure is related to an increased risk of death due to CVD and noncancer/non-CVD, and a minor reduction in risk of cancer. Active sun exposure habits have a dual effect; it increases the incidence of skin cancer, but also improves the prognosis in terms of all-cause mortality. In a low solar intensity region, we should carefully assess both risk and benefits of sun exposure in order to obtain balanced recommendations.

Brislurker
Brislurker
January 9, 2022 11:03 pm

Rockdoctor thanks for the info.

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2022 11:03 pm

Try something different

ok fine

tell us the one again about how zinc supplements will will cause copper deficiencies.
or, or
the one about Grandpa Maverick and how things never worked out for him

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2022 11:03 pm

Old School Conservativesays:

January 9, 2022 at 7:57 pm

In Rugby news I enjoyed reading today:

Israel Folau has dominated in his first game (in Japan) …

Compare and contrast the truncated career of Blake Ferguson in Japanese Rugby.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 9, 2022 11:04 pm

TC Tiffany, as mentioned earlier by RD.

Tiffany scores a 10 on the Hot/Crazy matrix, so nobody say she’s fat.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 9, 2022 11:04 pm

Looking her up on the internet, it seems she lived, very quietly, in Australia for a couple of years…

Did you [gasp] Goooogle that, Zulu?

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 11:08 pm

Odd thing.
Rome was packed, long queues for the popular restaurants, St Peter’s square crowded but here is very very quite.
Yesterday there were a few eating out but today colder and windy, I have the ‘best pizza in cagliari’ to myself.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2022 11:08 pm

Threatening people on threads, pretending you own the site, choosing sides in stoushes… thought leadership is a tough gig. It drains you if you’re not careful.

Truth.
Which is why I don’t do any of that.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 11:08 pm

Wolf Alice – Beautifully Unconventional

It may have been someone here who put up a link to this band. If so thanks. I very much like their music.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 9, 2022 11:08 pm

Ed.

You realise that comments after 11.00 p.m. attract Tariff 2 rates?

Of course you do. Look at your former profession. How silly of me.

JC
JC
January 9, 2022 11:09 pm

the first person to fly a helicopter indoors

Why would you want to fly a chopper inside, Ed?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2022 11:12 pm

callisays:

January 9, 2022 at 9:24 pm

Arky deleting comments and saying mean things is all water under the bridge. 

Which probably means it is time for Lizzie to stop soft-soaping it and making plaintive pleas for his return.

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2022 11:12 pm

there was a TC Tiffany in 1998

… the lungs on that

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 11:14 pm

People can be very selective about who they beg to return.

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 11:16 pm
John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 11:17 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
January 9, 2022 at 11:12 pm
there was a TC Tiffany in 1998

… the lungs on that

The lungs on this. Great song from the 70’s. She also sings.
Baby It’s You

JC
JC
January 9, 2022 11:21 pm

Odd thing.
Rome was packed, long queues for the popular restaurants, St Peter’s square crowded but here is very very quite.

Rosie

I can’t recall the name of the restaurant but the maitre d’ was a hilarious bozo. We scored a table outside as I guess, we passed muster, but just. A short and slightly overweight American couple show up and he literally couldn’t even look at them. He was so disgusted that when he spoke he’d look at them from the side. He finally allowed them to sit, but I heard them ask for a table outside and he nodded his head and told them curtly there was only room for them inside. Later on, I went to go the toilet and they were in a empty area on their own. A gorgeous gal goes to him for a table and he’s all over her. Naturally she and her pals get a table outside. They had a fabulous pasta dish.

C.L.
C.L.
January 9, 2022 11:25 pm

The lungs on this. Great song from the 70’s. She also sings.
Baby It’s You

Ah yes.
Booby It’s You.
Great clip.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2022 11:26 pm

They had a fabulous pasta dish.

It’s called cacio e pepe.
Most people love it.
But not all.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2022 11:26 pm

Begging is so unbecoming.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 9, 2022 11:27 pm

Did you [gasp] Goooogle that, Zulu?

You have a point you wish to make?

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 11:27 pm

He’s an excellent motorcyclist but I don’t know how he has survived for so long. He has had serious accidents but keeps on living. The other mystery is how he escapes jail time. 897k subscribers so he is very popular. Some of the videos of his rides are great but the constant wheel stands become boring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksqfJlJOIbY

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 11:30 pm

Lol JC, nice to pick and choose, he didn’t reject them completely though, not running Studio 54.
My host has a recommendations list but his six top picks for the Castello area are all victims of covid.
Perhaps they’ll be back for the summer.
A few shoppers have rolled in now.
I didn’t order the bistecca di cavallo, only made that mistake once.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2022 11:30 pm

H B Bearsays:

January 9, 2022 at 11:26 pm

Begging is so unbecoming.

Meh.
It’s a livink.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2022 11:31 pm

You would have to say the young lady fills out the puffy shirt well.

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 11:33 pm

Never to be forgiven for disrespecting Sancho’s pasta recommendation

I had polpo the other day.
That was nice. No idea what it was 😉

JC
JC
January 9, 2022 11:34 pm

Rosie

He spent a lot of time looking at his reservations sheet. They must have booked through the hotel otherwise there was no way they would get a table,

I didn’t order the bistecca di cavallo, only made that mistake once.

Horse meat! Europeans are totally disgusting. They literally eat anything. There’s some part of Switzerland bordering Germany where they eat dog.

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 11:38 pm

Horse meat is okay but I wouldn’t eat dog.
Mum gave the horse meat the tick of approval because exclusive herbivore.
Very lean though.

JC
JC
January 9, 2022 11:40 pm

Eating horse meat is equivalent to cannibalism. You can’t eat a beautiful animal like that.

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 11:40 pm

Though dog meat couldn’t be worse that ‘wurstel’.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 9, 2022 11:41 pm

From the Oz. Curious, I’ve often thought Paul Hasluck was one of the better Prime Minsters this country may have had.

New letters to the Palace reveal former Governor-General Paul Hasluck’s real views on Whitlam, Gorton and McMahon

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Governor-general Sir Paul Hasluck sharply criticised John Gorton, William McMahon and Gough Whitlam to the Queen, trashed his former Liberal colleagues, despaired over policy drift as the Coalition cascaded to defeat, was concerned about the speed of Labor’s decision-making and lamented the “poor state” of Australian politics.

Hasluck’s secret vice-regal letters between 1969 and 1974 have been opened for access by the National Archives of Australia, along with the correspondence of Sir Richard Casey, Sir Zelman Cowen and Sir Ninian Stephen. It amounts to over 1100 pages.

The Hasluck letters – requested by The Australian before and after the High Court ruled the correspondence was an official record subject to the 20-year release rule in May 2020 – chronicle the downfall of the Gorton and McMahon governments, and the coming to power of the Whitlam government.

The governor-general expressed concern to Buckingham Palace about Gorton’s style of governing and labelled some ministers as “oafish”, “prone to lapses into silliness”, with “no qualification” or lacking “brain power”, in November 1969. Hasluck, a former minister in the government, described Gorton’s private secretary, Ainsley Gotto, as “a bumptious little hussy of twenty-three” that same month.

When a party-room motion of confidence in Gorton’s leadership was tied in March 1971, and the prime minister resigned, Hasluck said he had not seen the “coming danger quickly enough” amid widespread discontent and treachery, and handled a dispute with Malcolm Fraser over civil aid in Vietnam in a “clumsy” way.

“Mr Gorton the ambitious, intelligent and well-intentioned politician, has been betrayed by Mr Gorton the impetuous and self-centred man,” Hasluck wrote to Sir Michael Adeane, the Queen’s private secretary. “Behaving thoughtlessly, at times rudely, often without consideration for others and sometimes defiantly, he has played into the hands of his opponents and rivals and has alienated some who would be his friends.”

McMahon’s elevation to prime minister reflected the “sad picture” of Australian politics and the “weakness” of the Liberal Party, Hasluck reported. McMahon was described as without character, devious, a leaker and plotter, and not trusted. He presided over a “low in talent” ministry, possibly the worst post-war, Hasluck wrote in September 1972.

“His term weakened the cabinet system, undermined the public service, made public relations exercises even shoddier than usual, lowered respect for the prime ministership, and eroded trust,” Hasluck said of McMahon after the Coalition lost the December 1972 election.

While Hasluck regarded Whitlam as a good prime minister, he was critical of his period as opposition leader, questioned the soundness of Labor policies and warned about rapid decision-making, spending and economic challenges.

In October 1970, Hasluck described Whitlam as having “defects of character”. He said Labor had “behaved with incredible stupidity” and had not yet demonstrated they were a “responsible and united party ready to be trusted with office.”

But the then governor-general’s view changed when Whitlam became prime minister. So did that of Sir Martin Charteris, the Queen’s private secretary, who welcomed the new government and agreed with Hasluck that “change was precisely what was needed” in Australia.

The Labor ministry was characterised as more “competent” and “intelligent” than its Coalition predecessors in March 1973. While respect for Whitlam remained, Hasluck reported that Labor’s policies by July that year had caused people to be “fearful”, “offended” and with “doubt and uncertainty” about Australia’s future. And by October, he noted the country had “fallen into some disarray”.

“Since he became prime minister he has grown in political stature,” Hasluck wrote of Whitlam in April 1973. “Although his style is quite different from that of Menzies he behaves and looks much more like a prime minister than anyone we have had since Menzies.”

However, Hasluck accused Whitlam of political trickery and deception over the attempt to get Senator Vince Gair to retire by taking a diplomatic appointment in April 1974. He was caught by surprise over the change to the oath of allegiance and national anthem, and conveyed this to Whitlam.

“Whitlam has aroused enthusiasm among some but also provoked strong dislike among others,” Hasluck wrote in June 1974. “It is a long time since I have heard such hate expressed against a political leader by those whom he has angered.”

Hasluck’s correspondence, routinely read by the Queen, is far more critical of the Gorton and McMahon governments than Sir John Kerr’s correspondence is about the Whitlam government. Kerr’s correspondence was made public in July 2020.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2022 11:41 pm

I had polpo the other day.
That was nice. No idea what it was

Goats testicles.

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 11:41 pm

I did.
It was in a sausage and I held out no hopes for it’s recovery.

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 11:42 pm

I think you meant goat tentacles Sancho.

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2022 11:43 pm

Eating horse meat is equivalent to cannibalism. You can’t eat a beautiful animal like that.

Horses have no affection whatsoever for their slaves (“owners”).

Eat them. Cows have more sentience.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2022 11:43 pm

I agree JC.
I love Hungary, but they also love ponies.
On a plate.
A bridge too far for me.

srr
srr
January 9, 2022 11:44 pm

Well this explains why, Mr. ‘Invest, Invest In Biotech,’ JC puts so much venom into libelling Mr. ‘I Sue Pharmaceutical Companies For A Living’, Kennedy –

Joe Rogan
@joerogan

·
December 29, 2021
RT @FatEmperor: Here’s a nephew of the great John F Kennedy – LISTEN CAREFULLY:
https://gettr.com/post/plh26m9e95
Posted on 8:56 AM · Dec 29th, 2021
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Fitz0311
@Fitz0311
·
Jan 6
Replying to @joerogan
Please have him on your show Joe, there was an amazing interview on London Real back in May of 2020 where RFK educated me beyond belief about how evil big Pharma is.

?London Real: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. – My Fight Against Mandatory Vaccinations, Big Pharma, And

?Show London Real, Ep Robert F. Kennedy Jr. – My Fight Against Mandatory Vaccinations, Big Pharma, And Dr. Fauci – May 7, 2020
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/robert-f-kennedy-jr-my-fight-against-mandatory-vaccinations/id474722933?i=1000473863751

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Posted on 2:36 PM · Jan 6th, 2022

JC
JC
January 9, 2022 11:45 pm

I thought it was Chinese and other Asians that ate dog, but not so.

A SWISS newspaper investigation has turned up an ugly side of the beautiful Alpine land: many people like to include dogs and cats in their diet.

The Tages Anzeiger said farmers in the Appenzell and St Gallen areas in particular slaughter the creatures to eat themselves or to pass on to friends. The favoured breed is a dog that is related to the beefy Rottweiller.

Not content to steal Jewish money hidden from the nazis, they also dog.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2022 11:47 pm

The only honourable meat to eat is something which you have kill yourself.
In the bullring with cape, very tight pants and sword.
Mostly sword.
Yum!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 9, 2022 11:48 pm

Horse meat is okay but I wouldn’t eat dog.

Never had a problem with horse meat, but the eating of sheep is a disgusting habit, with no hope of redemption.

JC
JC
January 9, 2022 11:48 pm

Dot

Horses are the most beautiful, svelte creatures on earth. It’s a major sin to eat the fuckers. God would be really pissed if you barbecued a hind leg.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 11:50 pm

It helps if you spell the woman’s name correctly, Grigory.

Hanna Reitsch was the renowned German lady test pilot, who flew the Focke-Achgelis Fa.61 within the confines of the Berlin Deutchslandhalle during the 1938 International Automobile Exhibition.

Not for the benefit of some ‘skeptical American businessmen,’ troll. A propagandistic showing-off of German aeronautical engineering, in the same vein that the Kim family in North Korea and Chairman Winnie Xi Pooh like to paint up their nuclear missile transporter-erector-launchers and parade them thru town.

Hanna Ritsch is likely any number of German women, or most probably a figment of Grigory’s fevered imagination.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2022 11:50 pm

Or maybe boar you kill yourself.
With the bare hands.
(Bare hands holding the 12 gauge).

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 11:51 pm

Never had a problem with horse meat

Now I wanna visit IKEA again… 🙂

#’VealAndPork’

#Meatballs

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 11:51 pm

Is there nothing a Sancho can’t do.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a bull fight but have never been in Spain during bull fight season.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 11:53 pm

Don’t annoy the USAF.

IED Factories Destroyed By JDAMS

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 11:53 pm

Well this explains why, Mr. ‘Invest, Invest In Biotech,’ JC puts so much venom into libelling Mr. ‘I Sue Pharmaceutical Companies For A Living’, Kennedy –

***Frantic Tunnelling Intensifies***

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 11:56 pm

I wouldn’t mind seeing a bull fight but have never been in Spain during bull fight season.

You don’t need to go to Spain for that, Rosie.

Just sneakily drop your second-string stud or rodeo animal (preferably Brahman- Those things are mean)* in with your neighbour’s prize stud bull when the cows are in season. Then sit back with popcorn. From a distance outside rifle-calibre range, of course…

*Be sure to remove all eartags and distinguishing markings first.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2022 11:57 pm

Well this explains why, Mr. ‘Invest, Invest In Biotech,’ JC puts so much venom into libelling Mr. ‘I Sue Pharmaceutical Companies For A Living’, Kennedy –

JC might want to look into that Japanese team doing outstanding work with stem cells. Already trialed for vision with limited success but for a blind person even a minute recovery of vision is a huge plus. If they get the stem cell technology right for Parkinson’s, and they are working very hard on that, it will be a huge win. But JC is probably already knows about them.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 9, 2022 11:58 pm

Rex Angersays:
January 9, 2022 at 11:56 pm

Alterntely, you might find you have accidentally gifted your neighbour some useful genetics should the bulls not give a shit about each other…

#DidNotThinkThisThrough

JC
JC
January 9, 2022 11:58 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
January 9, 2022 at 11:47 pm

The only honourable meat to eat is something which you have kill yourself.
In the bullring with cape, very tight pants and sword.
Mostly sword.
Yum!

I can’t blame the fucker. In fact I support him.

Get a load of these morons

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2022 11:58 pm

Sounds like a tunofun Rex.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 10, 2022 12:01 am

Or maybe boar you kill yourself.
With the bare hands.

You will need a 12 gauge, if you want to deal with the boar with the bare hands…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 10, 2022 12:06 am

The only honourable meat to eat is something which you have kill yourself.
In the bullring with cape, very tight pants and sword.
Mostly sword.
Yum!

There’s an old joke about an English tourist in Spain, who orders the “dish of machismo” from the menu – the grilled testicles of a bull, killed that day, in the arena. When the testicles are served, they are of no great size.

Questioning this fact, said tourist is advised by the waiter “It is regrettable, Senor, but the bull is not always the loser…”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 12:06 am

We saw a bullfight in Spain in the ’90’s (which is hardly surprising as I am Spanish).
It is a lot longer than any brief film clip will lead you to believe.
I commentated for Mrs Panzer in Bruce McAvaney style, and invented quite a lot of statistics and nomenclature (the guys on horses were called “horsadors” and the guys who put the sharp sticks into the shoulders of the bull were called “stickadors”).
Stickadors were the bravest.
The bull is still pretty up for the fight. They run at it but kind of diverge to one side, and then jump past the bull’s head and insert the sticks in the upper neck/shoulder.
Crazy.
I remember this much.
The first matador took a few attempts to drop the bull.
Muted crowd reception. Golf clap.
The second matador dropped his with one stroke.
Crowd went nuts.
A lot of locals there. Not just tourists.
This was in Seville.
Brutal.
But unforgettable.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 12:12 am

Questioning this fact, said tourist is advised by the waiter “It is regrettable, Senor, but the bull is not always the loser…”

This is actually true.
We missed the bullfight in Madrid.
I asked the girl at reception if there was a bullfight on that night.
“Sorry, no” she says. “It was last night”
“Oh? Who won?”
Pause.
“Sir. I thin the bull … he is never win.”

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 10, 2022 12:14 am

Horses are the most beautiful, svelte creatures on earth

Hmmm… Svelte…

I think this one may be one of those instances like when Sal (or is it cohenite) and JC have major tete a tetes over who is the prettier screen siren out of Sophia Loren or Monica Belluci.

I’d make further quips on the matter, but I would prefer not to get horsewhipped. So I’ll hoof it for now…

#TheNeighsHaveIt

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 12:18 am

JC at 11:58.
Mexico.
Next level crazy.
Now, that is getting your beef served rare.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 10, 2022 12:21 am

Tasmanian Aboriginality ruling ‘risks treaty talks’ as Indigenous groups push competing visions
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Matthew Denholm
Tasmania correspondent
@MatthewRDenholm
7:11PM January 9, 2022
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Plans for a treaty in Tasmania are in danger of being derailed by a push to first determine who is and who isn’t Aboriginal.

There is almost unanimous political support for a treaty in the state that experienced some of the worst frontier conflict and dispossession, with Premier Peter Gutwein strongly championing the cause.

However, a state government-commissioned report advising a path to a treaty has warned the “vexed issue” of disputed Aboriginality “cannot be ignored”.

The Pathway to Truth-Telling and Treaty report, presented to Mr Gutwein in November, says a first step for a new Truth-Telling Commission must be determining who is “eligible” as Aboriginal for treaty purposes.

While some Indigenous leaders are open to this discussion, several hold concerns and some told The Australian it would create a “rabbit burrow” into which the treaty process would disappear.

Aboriginal Land Council of Tasmania chairman Michael Mansell said there was a danger of the treaty becoming “sidetracked” by the issue of Aboriginality.

“If the report’s authors’ view was adopted you’d have to have an ­investigation into ‘who are all the Aboriginal people’. And when is that going to finish?

“You don’t have to muck around with Aboriginality and identity. The report did get sidetracked and what they’re recommending is that people get further sidetracked by chasing this rabbit down a burrow.”

Rodney Dillon, of the umbrella group Tasmanian Regional Aboriginal Communities Alliance, said Aboriginality should not be left to any one group to decide. “You can’t have one group deciding who’s who in the zoo,” he said.

Some regional groups do not want older Indigenous bodies dominated by a few family lines, such as the Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre and ALCT, to be the sole treaty negotiators.

Mr Mansell said while he would question the Aboriginality of some members of groups represented by TRACA, he believed Mr Dillon – whose Aboriginality was not in question – should be on the negotiating team.

There has been extraordinary growth in the number of Tasmanians claiming Aboriginality: from 36 in 1966 to 23,572 in 2016; in part reflecting increased pride in Indigenous heritage.

However the report authors, former governor Kate Warner and war crimes adviser Tim McCormack, said it had also led to “palpable resentment, anger and frustration among many Aboriginal people”.

There is also fundamental disagreement over whether there should be one treaty with all Tasmanian Aborigines or multiple treaties with regional groups.

Mr Mansell said multiple treaties would “undermine a treaty”.

“There are people who are not accepted as Aboriginal but who want to use this process to establish their credibility,” he said.

However, Mr Dillon said “a series of treaties with different groups” would allow the use of returned land and resources, such as fishing rights, to create jobs and self-sufficiency.

He also believed treaties needed to evolve and change with each generation. “We can’t have one treaty for the last 230 years and say ‘that’s fixed it and it’s all OK’,” he said.

JC
JC
January 10, 2022 12:23 am

Mexico.
Next level crazy.

It’s lunacy on a grand scale.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 12:30 am

John H.says:

January 9, 2022 at 11:57 pm

Don’t fucking interrupt me when I am throwing out the baby with the bathwater!
This is the danger.
Some legitimate questions about these vaccines morphs into mistrust of all medical advances which have saved and/or improved billions of lives.
The minor Kennedy is a grifter and an opportunist, chiseling a living out of ambulance chaser lawsuits, and now sees the opportunity to increase his revenue base off the back of this pandemic.
But he’s Teddy’s nephew, so …

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 10, 2022 12:31 am

JCsays:

January 10, 2022 at 12:23 am

Mexico.
Next level crazy.

It’s lunacy on a grand scale.

How much coke do you reckon they gave the bull?

John H.
John H.
January 10, 2022 12:35 am

Sancho Panzersays:
January 10, 2022 at 12:30 am
John H.says:

January 9, 2022 at 11:57 pm

Don’t fucking interrupt me when I am throwing out the baby with the bathwater!
This is the danger.
Some legitimate questions about these vaccines morphs into mistrust of all medical advances which have saved and/or improved billions of lives.
The minor Kennedy is a grifter and an opportunist, chiseling a living out of ambulance chaser lawsuits, and now sees the opportunity to increase his revenue base off the back of this pandemic.
But he’s Teddy’s nephew, so …

In future I shall refrain from interruption.
Please be advised I am not a windmill.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 10, 2022 12:59 am

Took the kids to a movie tonight.
Cinema advertising, in order:
This venue is supported by Screen Australia, ie LGBTIQ, ROP & BIPOC films which show on Gala Night only.*
Haulage company.
Fuel company.
Australiaday.org.au, ie Change The Date You Horrible White People.*
Vaccinate for W.A.*
Clifford the Big Red Dog movie.
(ads marked * are paid for by the taxpayer, written and directed by The Cathedral.)

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 10, 2022 1:03 am

Australia’s Governor-General David Hurley has contracted COVID-19.
A spokesperson said the Governor-General had received two vaccine doses and a booster shot prior to becoming infected, and was experiencing mild symptoms.

Clearly we have to catch omicron as soon as we can. This is an order coming straight from the top!

Also, Dave, mate, how’s those jabs workin’ for ya?

Do not ask what your country can do for Omicron. Ask what Omicron can do for your country.

rosie
rosie
January 10, 2022 1:04 am

Waiting for museo crypt to open at 16.00.
And sancho insisted siesta was Spanish. Though Sardinia was Spanish territory for four hundred years so I guess that’s an excuse.
I enjoyed the bullfighting antidotes.
Not sure if I’m going to get to Spain as planned. They were insisting on rapido tamponis from Italy and I’m reluctant.

srr
srr
January 10, 2022 1:04 am

William Hall
@William5849
·
December 17, 2021
75 members of Congress own stock in Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson.

Let that sink in…

srr
srr
January 10, 2022 1:08 am

CONNIE’S CORNER ?
@CRRJA5
·
December 5, 2021
Over 40,000 protesters have taken to the streets to march in Vienna, Austria today after the country went back into lockdown and became first in the world to make COVID vaccination compulsory.

[video] https://gettr.com/post/pir7sq99c3

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 10, 2022 1:42 am

75 members of Congress own stock in Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson.

Let that sink in…

Oh, Mrs Faulty.

Water is wet, days end in ‘Y’ and politicians are all allegedly (until conclusively proven or proven otherwise) corrupt and profiteering gangsters.

Also- Red Shoes are a bugger of a thing to keep clean and well-polished. Unless you are a gorgeous young female with excellent taste in Doc Martens or Vans, avoid at all costs.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 10, 2022 1:43 am

politicians are all allegedly (until conclusively proven or proven otherwise) corrupt and profiteering gangsters.

Especially at election time…

bespoke
bespoke
January 10, 2022 5:56 am

What is ‘soft-soaping’?

rickw
rickw
January 10, 2022 6:08 am

Australia’s Governor-General David Hurley has contracted COVID-19.

When is COVID going to do its job properly and start killing some of our corrupt elite?!

bespoke
bespoke
January 10, 2022 6:12 am

Why Even Atheists Should Teach Their Children about God

I disagree with the premiss but the overall theory has merit.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 10, 2022 6:27 am

And so what has happened to Tom’s ‘Toons?

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 10, 2022 6:42 am

Sex and the City is now woke crap, says Spiked magazine….link

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 10, 2022 7:02 am

JC to Lizzie: Threatening people on threads, pretending you own the site, choosing sides in stoushes… thought leadership is a tough gig. It drains you if you’re not careful.

Sancho: Truth.
Which is why I don’t do any of that.

Hey Sancho, surprise!

JC, take a liver pill. You’re choleric. Doubtless feeling drained, I’d say.

For the record: I have never threatened anyone on threads. I don’t pretend to own this site. I don’t ‘choose sides’ in stouches and that’s because I think ‘stouches’ are stupid, (especially your ongoing late nite hatreds, which till this moment I have never criticised you for, although they deserve some scorn for being senseless bullying, something that pulls this site down). Basically, JC, I like you and enjoy your capacity here to deflect hardball against yourself, to piss off the tall-poppy choppers, and to throw juicy pieces of meat to some of the hounds. But you are a man, and I am not. Thus the playing field is different. I simply protect my own opinions, which I have every right to hold and express, and as for ‘thought leadership’, that’s just sheer bullshit which can be levelled against anyone who says anything serious here.

The main issue for me in particular and the site in general is bullying, of the genuine sort not the leftist version. I hope that at its extremes it is now ended here. It can wreck lives that are under stress; note too that Arky also lost his beloved A Model in his house fire.

Cassie can recall, rightly, one nasty pile-on she has experienced here and which still hurts and stings her. I sympathise, because that’s what pile-ons do. I have received more pile-ons here than I can count, largely because tall poppy syndrome is alive and well amongst the envious and apparently I am this sort of poppy to some, or a good substitute for those feeling nippy. If I ever fight, it has been in protection of myself from wild and unwarranted attacks that often stem from fake memes about me. Everyone talks of their own life and journey here, btw. The ‘me’ meme is fruitcake stuff, similar to the ‘thought leader’ slur. Just another mode of pile-on.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 10, 2022 7:04 am

I believe the correct spelling might be ‘stoushes’. Can’t start a row over that. 🙂

bespoke
bespoke
January 10, 2022 7:22 am

“General discussion” my ass, L. Sinc set numerwang strait when he played the same card.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 10, 2022 7:23 am

Similar experience for us at a Seville bullfight, Sancho. I wrote about it here in one of the travelogues I used to make. Nearest thing to ever comprehending what it was like to be present in the Roman Coloseum on killing days as most of the crowd were locals enjoying a pleasant afternoon on a Saturday. There is a gruesome ritual to it all. British tourist guy in front of us stood up after the second kill of the day, declared that he’d had enough of this, and departed.

Fighting the bull must be a hangover from one of the oldest of human concerns in Europe: viz the cave Temples of the Bull in Lascaux during the last Ice Age. In a sense, I can see what Hemingway saw in it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 10, 2022 7:30 am

But he’s Teddy’s nephew, so …

As the pundits online note, the TV series ‘Succession’ reprises some moments from American dynastic family histories. In one scene, Kendall, the heir apparent, cruels his pitch completely in a repeat of Teddy Kennedy’s Chappaquiddick car crash with Mary Jo Kopechne left to drown. And that is still such a piece of cultural literacy that I didn’t need to check the spelling on either of those two names.

Teddy, like Kendall, was protected from all charges by his familial name.

bespoke
bespoke
January 10, 2022 7:35 am

LOL!

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