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Anchor What
Anchor What
January 12, 2022 7:55 am

Media obsess about testing while governments continue to kneecap the economy and jab littlies unnecessarily over a virus that isn’t hurting most people and certainly not kids.

calli
calli
January 12, 2022 7:59 am

Rosie, I think it was Topher who made the comment about the Memorial.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
January 12, 2022 8:00 am

Janet A’s , quite rightly, utterly devastating critique of our Turdball-lite PM.

The whole article.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/scott-morrison-has-humiliated-us-as-well-as-novak-djokovic/news-story/25437775a5f277698fcbfad7002a41fc

PM, when you’re in a hole of your own making, stop digging.

Scott Morrison’s obsession with pub politics has exposed him as a populist drunk, more focused on low-rent politics than sensible policy.

By JANET ALBRECHTSEN

Illustration: Johannes Leak. (See Tom’s link)

As we waited, and waited, to hear if the Immigration Minister would use his personal powers to kick out Novak Djokovic, news leaked that the tennis player may have “lied” on his incoming travel paperwork. Seems there might be a date discrepancy about when Djokovic last travelled.

This is the sign of a desperate, delaying government likely poring over polling and hunting for ex post facto reasons to discredit Djokovic.

When in a hole of your own making, stop digging. Climb out with grace. There is a way Morrison could turn around a trashy drama that is an insult to the tennis player, and our country’s reputation as a free and fair-minded country.

He could lead by pointing out that it’s high time our Covid border policies are changed. Until he does that, he will share inglorious similarities with Mark McGowan. Both have border policies that are disproportionate, embarrassing and idiotic. Both policies point to politicians unable to manage risk sensibly.

What makes Morrison’s position worse is that as Prime Minister he has used his federal pedestal to tell Australians to push through, to live with Covid, to lift the doona. He has preached that people want government out of their lives.

By using the world’s top tennis player as a political football to play moralising border cop in the lead-up to a federal election, Morrison has made a farce of those sentiments, and exposed his attachment to a Fortress Australia policy well beyond its use-by date.

Those who are excited to see the Djokovic debacle as a proxy battle for different border policies that deal with asylum-seekers need a triple dose of clear thinking. Djokovic was invited into this country to play at a grand slam tennis tournament. The winner of 20 grand slams, hoping for his 21st at the Australian Open starting next week, filled out every form he was required to, provided documents asked of him, including a vaccination exemption provided by Tennis Australia’s panel of medical experts and a letter from the Department of Home Affairs confirming his visa to enter the country.

Djokovic had recently recovered from a Covid-19 infection. Medical experts acting for Tennis Australia and the Victorian government understood the rules to mean that Djokovic therefore did not need to be vaccinated for six months.

As Federal Circuit Court judge Anthony Kelly said on Monday during Djokovic’s legal challenge to the Morrison government’s deportation order: “What more could this man have done?”

Throughout Monday’s live-streamed legal proceedings from Melbourne, Kelly was scathing of Djokovic’s treatment by the federal government and the Australian Border Force delegate.

And for good reason. Did Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews read the transcript of the border bureaucrat’s interview with Djokovic? Did any of her advisers? What about anyone in the PM’s office? Had anyone with an ounce of sense read this 30-page transcript they would have seen a dodgy interview leading to a dodgy decision where the tennis player was not treated fairly or reasonably.

Detained in an airport room for hours from midnight on January 5, without legal counsel or access to his phone, Djokovic was unable to contact TA officials to help with questions that, very politely, he did his best to answer. At 5.22am the ABF bureaucrat promised Djokovic extra time so he could rest and contact TA by 8.30 that morning. The bureaucrat then reneged, waking the tennis player around 6am and effectively telling him that speaking with TA or lawyers wasn’t going to make a difference to the decision to cancel his visa.

This, said the judge, “has the quality of this ex post facto view”. No matter what Djokovic provided, border bureaucrats had made up their mind to cancel his visa. No one in the Morrison government looked at this debacle with a modicum of common sense before defending the decision. Instead, the PM and his ministers applied the excitable and distorted lens of politics.

The humiliation was avoidable. Morrison could have taken a breath and let the Victorian government cop the flak for granting a medical exemption to Djokovic.

Instead, the PM sniffed a wind somewhere and decided to have a fight with Tennis Australia, the Victorian government and the world’s top tennis player.

“Rules are rules, especially when it comes to our borders,” the PM said, right after border cops cancelled Djokovic’s visa. His sermon about obeying rules backfired when Andrews was forced to agree in court on Monday that the bureaucrat acted unreasonably towards the tennis player.

Morrison’s obsession with pub politics has exposed him as a populist drunk, more focused on low-rent politics than sensible policy that is becoming of a leader.

The question now is whether any good can come of the Morrison government’s public humiliation in court on Monday?

It ought to be the trigger for a new and freer border policy that reflects three realities. First, Australia’s high vaccination rates. Second, Omicron is infecting hundreds of thousands of Australians without a blowout in mortality rates. An unvaccinated tennis player who had contracted Covid and carried Covid antibodies was no danger to a country awash with Omicron. Third, we must, as Morrison says, live with this virus and demand less intervention from government in our lives.

If not now, when do we live with Covid? If not now, when do we get governments out of our lives? Or are these just marketing blurbs from a PM who is more middle management than leader, a man who reached the top job because his predecessor made such a hash of it? Morrison is Malcolm Turnbull’s legacy.

If the Prime Minister tries to turn this into his Tampa moment by digging in to defend border policies that barely made sense in 2021, then it will settle his place in the pantheon of Australian politics as the poor man’s version of John Howard.

Howard took on people-smugglers and won. Morrison chose a fight with Tennis Australia and Victoria’s Labor government, used a tennis player to play tough border cop, and was humiliated in court. He will dig a bigger hole for himself if he refuses to change the country’s Covid border policy to reflect reality.

Look at it another way. While snooty elites in the international community condemned Howard’s border policies before, during and after Tampa, many countries – especially in Europe – have been trying to emulate those policies in recent years. No one will want to copy how Morrison damaged the country’s reputation with its shabby treatment of Djokovic.

Mater
January 12, 2022 8:04 am

I don’t speak for Digger but I took it as caution to be careful what whish for, you may not like what you get.

Voting for other than the Liberal Party doesn’t necessarily mean handing it to Labor. As long as the LNP are above ALP and Greens in your preferences, voting for a minor party/ies, is both workable, principled and, in my case, desirable. It delivers a message.

rickw
rickw
January 12, 2022 8:05 am

A great many Australians have proven themselves to be gullible, nasty little fuckers who wouldn’t be out of place in 1938 Germany.

Perfect.

Indolent
Indolent
January 12, 2022 8:09 am
Cassie of Sydney
January 12, 2022 8:13 am

“Morrison is Malcolm Turnbull’s legacy.”

Yep.

Cassie of Sydney
January 12, 2022 8:13 am

“Voting for other than the Liberal Party doesn’t necessarily mean handing it to Labor. As long as the LNP are above ALP and Greens in your preferences, voting for a minor party/ies, is both workable, principled and, in my case, desirable. It delivers a message.”

Perfectly said Mater.

calli
calli
January 12, 2022 8:17 am

Speaking of hot mics, Amor and Madden tearing strips off Djokovic is amusing but not surprising.

Keep in mind that they don’t write their broadcasted material and they are entitled as we are to have an opinion on the matter. And what a strong opinion it is! I’m pretty sure being caught calling him a liar when they thought the cameras were off will not see them in court – otherwise we’d all be there for one thing or another.

What troubles me is how on board they are at a personal level with what has happened to him and how disappointed they were that he wasn’t booted. This will be a reflection of the broader community – commenters here are in the minority.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 8:23 am

One thing’s for sure, Channel 7’s legal team will not be getting any sleep tonight

Neither did their spouses.

The thought of a poker machine that always jackpots makes them highly aroused.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 12, 2022 8:26 am

an intersex Navy veteran

Poor sentemce construction, with a spelling error. Correct version:

“A Navy veteran who is into sex …”

bespoke
bespoke
January 12, 2022 8:26 am

Matersays:
January 12, 2022 at 8:04 am
I don’t speak for Digger but I took it as caution to be careful what whish for, you may not like what you get.

Voting for other than the Liberal Party doesn’t necessarily mean handing it to Labor. As long as the LNP are above ALP and Greens in your preferences, voting for a minor party/ies, is both workable, principled and, in my case, desirable. It delivers a message.

Indeed, though “voting the sitting member out” has been popular for some around here. This is not only short sighted but could accelerate the decline and possibly by design of some of its proponents.

calli
calli
January 12, 2022 8:26 am

This Daily Mail article sums up the Amor/Madden attitude.

And the broader media response as well. Won’t be long before we get stories from personalities claiming to have been “pressured” into voicing certain views as the narrative unravels.

Cassie of Sydney
January 12, 2022 8:27 am

Just in from GBNews….Dan Wootton again nails it…

Dan Wootton: I seriously regret following any lockdown rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSvGQXyH11s

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 8:28 am

This will be a reflection of the broader community

Most people don’t ever want to admit they were wrong.

I can get over it, but I think most people and society are a joke.

I have a common interest with everyone else. But I am not in this with you buddy, nor are you my friend, pal.

The saddest quip Australians have been trained like seals to bark is “we don’t to wind up like America!”….well champion, after the last year, you wouldn’t believe how right you are.

Cassie of Sydney
January 12, 2022 8:31 am

“callisays:
January 12, 2022 at 8:26 am
This Daily Mail article sums up the Amor/Madden attitude.”

Wootton on fire…thanks Callie. I particularly liked this….

I understand the frustrations of Aussies who have been cruelly separated from their loved ones for two years while seeing celebs like Rita Ora, Zac Efron, Ed Sheeran, Julia Roberts, Matt Damon and Lord Alan Sugar fly into the country with no issue.

As a dual citizen of Britain and New Zealand, I have been effectively banned from returning to the country of my birth to visit my mum, dad and sister for the past two years.

Meanwhile, the internationally successful Kiwi popstar Lorde, who is rumoured to perform at the upcoming wedding of New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, just so happens to win the lottery system that allows a few hundred passport holders to return to the country each month, conveniently in time for the nuptials

Let them eat cake.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 8:32 am

Indeed, though “voting the sitting member out” has been popular for some around here. This is not only short sighted but could accelerate the decline and possibly by design of some of its proponents.

I cannot believe the Liberal Party are the thin Blue Line between us and the ruinous powers (Chaos).

Morrison has put the hammer down on accelerationism.

Ten years of unstable multi party coalitons is worth it to destroy the political establishment of LNP/GRN/LAB.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 8:32 am

Most people don’t ever want to admit they were wrong.

It’s bizarre isn’t it.
When you make a mistake, it’s key to understand where the mistake was made & factor it in to future decision making.

bespoke
bespoke
January 12, 2022 8:37 am

I cannot believe the Liberal Party are the thin Blue Line between us and the ruinous powers (Chaos).

Neither do I, Dot. It’s been one cluster after another.

calli
calli
January 12, 2022 8:37 am

Most people don’t ever want to admit they were wrong.

I take such a dim view of others it’s an absolute pleasure to be proved wrong. 😀

As Wootton rams home, our leaders and policy makers are not afraid of Covid. Their actions and exemptions make that perfectly clear.

rickw
rickw
January 12, 2022 8:39 am

I see that 24 days leave has only made The Bat Eared Mong only more grotesque than ever. Apparently never lifted his snout from the trough for the whole time.

(Of course outdoors, camping, bushwalking was off the list for TBEM, what would happen if your average Victorian came across him on a deserted bush track?)

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 12, 2022 8:42 am

Thanks for the toons Tom. Not missing David Rowe:)

No need to actually see it.

It will be one with Novak belting someone on a tennis court, every spherical or circular object will be rendered in that ‘omicron virus’ outline, and Morro will be somewhere sitting on a barrel with the word ‘PORK’ on it, because pork-barrelling is what distinguishes the Liberals from Labor.

Probably some naked men from the Liberals scattered about too.

calli
calli
January 12, 2022 8:50 am

You forgot something, Lode.

They’ll all be naked.

min
min
January 12, 2022 8:50 am

I have been telling friends for some time how we are being treated like the Germans pre WWll when media and politicians used propaganda to control t the population. Most were too young to have witnessed it at the time or after when all was analysed . Triumph of the Will displayed it on screen and again in the Milgram experiment on obedience to authority figures .
Friend was horrified the other day when a friend told her that another friend of very long standing would never be allowed in her home again as she wasn’t vaccinated. No different to what happened in Germany just substitute Antivaxers for the hated ones. And the way we are going every other non woke group.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 12, 2022 8:57 am

Audio Department – 10% of the work, 90% of the problems.
Old jungle saying.

bespoke
bespoke
January 12, 2022 9:02 am

Off to visit the grand girl.

Life is good.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 12, 2022 9:04 am

I realise this is a dumb question*, but apart from wires and batteries, is there any other way to distribute electricity?
Winston,
Microwaves. I’m sure you know this. See Gerry K. O’neill “The High Frontier”. Space based solar power.
Possibly the only thing the space folk can export to Earth economically in the near to medium term.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 12, 2022 9:07 am

Cassie of Sydney at 8:13

“Morrison is Malcolm Turnbull’s legacy.”

Janet A nails the problem in Teh Paywallian.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 9:09 am

The Fin Review actually doing some good reporting.
Stutch must still be on holidays.

For more than a year, the peak body that oversees the quality of diagnostic testing for Australia advocated strongly against the widespread use of rapid antigen tests for COVID-19.

Between October 1, 2020, and December 29, 2021, the Royal College of Pathologists of Australasia released five media statements to caution the public about RATs.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 9:11 am

California getting ready for state wide lock downs again.

Kneel
Kneel
January 12, 2022 9:13 am

“…The metal must burn as fast as the fuel/oxy.”

The fuel is the oxy! They are almost hydraulic locking the engine there’s so much “fuel”* going in. One of the few fuels that when the engine is running lean, you reduce the amount of fuel you are giving it to fix.

More issues with rod stretch than metal damage from fuel – it’s nasty, but not that nasty. You might get a dozen full power runs on a set of rods, after that fit the rods to something less powerful, like a 1,000HP street car.

You used to be able to buy 1L tins of 30% or 50% nitromethane mixed with some chemical or other that kept it mixed with standard petrol. Put some in a lawn mower – cut ankle high grass on choke, but alas dissolved the plastic fuel hoses (oops! fortunately didn’t set the mower on fire). Used in a street car, you can feel the extra torque across the rev range, but beware the paint stripping quality – make sure you have a bottle of water in hand to wash it off straight away if it spills. Not “just over there”, not “the hose is right there”, open bottle in hand! (learned that the hard way)

* AKA industrial explosive – used in mining, AKA paint stripper – less than 10 seconds to get to bare metal.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 12, 2022 9:14 am

Indeed, though “voting the sitting member out” has been popular for some around here.

I thought that was one of Memory Vault’s things. He has some psephologial stratagem in mind – a very precise one – and anyone who did otherwise was actually voting for Labor.

Or are there others here saying we should vote all sitting members last?

Franx
Franx
January 12, 2022 9:19 am

The Shrine protest was unplanned and occurred due to the police harassment throughout the earlier parts of the day in the cbd. No protest was possible. Lots of scatterings. Remnant groups who were pushed out of the cbd found they could consolidate in the park area of the Shrine. Etc.

WolfmanOz
WolfmanOz
January 12, 2022 9:21 am

Mater says:
January 12, 2022 at 8:04 am
I don’t speak for Digger but I took it as caution to be careful what whish for, you may not like what you get.
Voting for other than the Liberal Party doesn’t necessarily mean handing it to Labor. As long as the LNP are above ALP and Greens in your preferences, voting for a minor party/ies, is both workable, principled and, in my case, desirable. It delivers a message.

So eloquently and succinctly said.

I’d imagine a great number of Cats will be voting accordingly.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 12, 2022 9:24 am

Kneel, nitromethane is used as a monopreopellant rocket fuel.

WolfmanOz
WolfmanOz
January 12, 2022 9:27 am

calli says:
January 12, 2022 at 8:26 am
This Daily Mail article sums up the Amor/Madden attitude.

And the broader media response as well. Won’t be long before we get stories from personalities claiming to have been “pressured” into voicing certain views as the narrative unravels.

Yes a top article which nails it.

As someone said earlier, the attitude here on the Cat is probably a minority, but I remain optimistic that eventually that will change.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 12, 2022 9:28 am

In other RAT news:
Pretty sure Alice will be reliant upon RATs* when palms get sweaty.
Refueling probably has a way to go too.
*Ram Air Turbine.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 12, 2022 9:32 am

Mining
Gina Rinehart faces $20b challenge from descendants of Lang Hancock and his associates
Neale Prior
The West Australian
Tue, 11 January 2022 9:00PM

Gina Rinehart’s status as Australia’s richest person will come under intense challenge over the next two years as her two eldest children fight for bigger cuts of a $30 billion-plus family fortune.

Her ownership of more than three-quarters of Hancock Prospecting and that company’s ownership of potentially more than $20b in mining assets are being challenged by her eldest children John and Bianca.

Lawyers working for Mrs Rinehart are hoping that Federal arbitration scheduled to begin in August and overseen by former WA chief justice Wayne Martin may go a long way to resolving almost two-decades of family battles among the descendants of the late Lang Hancock.

And if that arbitration does indeed produce family peace 31 years after the death of Mrs Rinehart’s father, the Supreme Court may have a clear run in 2023 at resolving claims over Hope Downs by descendants of Lang’s late business partner Peter Wright and late Pilbara prospector Don Rhodes.

The potential $8b question in the Supreme Court actions is whether Hancock Prospecting was the rightful owner of Hope Downs tenements when it struck a series of deals in the 2000s for Rio Tinto to develop remarkably profitable mines.

The Hope Downs mines, near the Great Northern Highway north-west of Newman, have generated billions of dollars in profits and helped Hancock Prospecting become a miner in its own right at Roy Hill.

One way or another, the family empire remodelled by Mrs Rinehart since the 1990s will unlikely be the same by 2024.

While Federal arbitration is shrouded in secrecy, the extent of the challenge to Mrs Rinehart’s fortune has been revealed in various WA Supreme Court rows, as well as decisions by the NSW Supreme Court and High Court.

The rows envelop the actions of Mr Hancock from the late 1960s after he helped create WA’s iron ore industry and his contentious business dealings in the mid-1980s involving valuable assets and family trusts.

John and Bianca’s claims focus on Mrs Rinehart’s actions after Lang’s death in March 1992. Reversing or altering dealings by Lang, Mrs Rinehart fixed a financial mess and created the Hancock Prospecting we know today.

This company enjoyed a profit of $7.3b in 2020-21 from its Roy Hill mine, its Hope Downs stakes and its iron ore royalty streams.

While Mrs Rinehart’s successes have been indisputable, teams of lawyers have been engaged for more than a decade arguing over who really should own assets that, one way or another, can be linked to Lang.

In allegations now caught up in the Federal arbitration process thanks to a High Court decision in Mrs Rinehart’s favour, John and Bianca have claimed that their mother wiped out a trust structure after Lang’s death that should have delivered a 49 per cent stake in Hancock Prospecting to her four children. John and Bianca and their sisters Hope Welker and Ginia Rinehart ended up with just over 23 per cent of the flagship, with Mrs Rinehart holding the other 77 per cent.

The Federal arbitration had not been expected to start until as late as 2024.

And the Supreme Court had been expected to begin hearing the competing Hope Downs claim in April this year.

But the order of these showdowns changed in late 2021, with the Federal arbitration brought forward to the second half of this year and the Hope Downs battle put off until June 2023.

Supreme Court judge Jennifer Smith decided to delay hearing the Hope Downs claims because she did not feel all the “evidence could be put to the court in a comprehensive and orderly way”.

One big problem was that lawyers for Hancock Prospecting and DFD Rhodes still have appeals to be resolved over the scope of Hope Downs-related arguments that must be hammered out in the confidential Federal arbitration.

Those complex arguments will not be heard by the WA Court of Appeal until March.

The wishful thinking now is that the scope of the June 2023 Supreme Court hearing might be known just as most of the warring parties bunker down for Federal arbitration in August this year. A dream scenario, outlined by Mrs Rinehart’s barrister Christian Bova, would see the Federal arbitration’s result taken into account in the Hope Downs hearings from June 2023.

Despite lawyers working on the case having faith in Mr Martin’s ability to sort out problems, there is scepticism that anything involving Lang’s mixed legacy will be neatly resolved. When you’re talking about $20b-plus of assets, every point is worth arguing.

Joanna
Joanna
January 12, 2022 9:38 am

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but Topher Field has made a documentary about last years protests in Melbourne.

https://battlegroundmelbourne.com/

Battleground Melbourne tells the story through the eyes of the men and women who risked it all to try and save their city. Weaving together interviews from key freedom activists and journalists, with live as-it-happened footage from on the ground, this Documentary tells the world the truth of how Melbourne fell, as seen by the freedom fighters who dared to stand in the face of a tyrannical government and fight for the freedoms of themselves and their children.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 12, 2022 9:43 am

Janet Albrechtson gets her opinions from The Cat:

Scott Morrison’s obsession with pub politics has exposed him as a populist drunk, more focused on low-rent politics than sensible policy.

Ivan Denisovich
Ivan Denisovich
January 12, 2022 9:46 am

. Christine Holgate – a rather effective head of Australia Post, who Morrison vindictively decided to smear and destroy for petty politics.

Yep, Morrison has form. Bolta:

Here’s proof that the Morrison Government wants to kick Novak Djokovic out of the country not because he’s a danger to the health of Australians, but because he’s a danger to the health of a government facing an election.

If Djokovic were really a health danger to Australians, why would the government sit back and let him walk free on our streets?

Is it possible the Government just wants the extra time to see how this plays out in polls and talkback? That it wants the view of the mob before acting?

If you think I’m too harsh, here are two names: Christine Holgate and George Pell.

The Prime Minister demanded Holgate be sacked as head of Australia Post even though she lawfully and understandably rewarded four top executives with luxury watches worth $5000 each for landing a deal that made the corporations millions of dollars. But the mob was going feral, so Morrison trashed her.

The Prime Minister never said a single word in defence of Cardinal George Pell, even after the High Court correctly ruled he’d been the victim of a miscarriage of justice, unfairly jailed for pedophile offences he could not possibly have committed. But the mob wanted a scapegoat, and Morrison was not the man to stand in their way by defending an innocent man.

I’d add Milo Yiannopoulos to the list. Morrison banned him from coming to Australia for being allegedly of “bad character”, when in fact the true bad characters were the far-Left thugs threatening violence if he spoke. But the Left wanted Yiannopoulos silenced, and the election was just two months away. So Morrison again sided with the mob, not with free speech.

That record is not a proud one, and suggests Morrison would once again side with the mob – not justice and reason – and throw Djokovic out of the country if he thought there were votes in it. I’m guessing the first polling on this will determine Djokovic’s fate……..

On that point, a new article in Lancet suggests to me it should be, and that Djokovic poses no more health risk than any fully-vaccinated player…….

Given the evidence of immunity from previous SARS-CoV-2 infection, however, policy makers should consider recovery from previous SARS-CoV-2 infection equal to immunity from vaccination for purposes related to entry to public events, businesses, and the workplace, or travel requirements.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/proof-that-morrison-government-is-playing-politics-with-djokovic/news-story/55c3dc7451483802841f95c381c9795c

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 12, 2022 9:49 am

ABCcess has an urban bugman piece on “the economy”.
Apparently only morriswine and perrottet are to blame…

Whats his answer…

Why more of the same shit that doesnt work…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-12/covid-supply-chain-crisis-economy/100750814

It’s not too late to limit the carnage
The idea that health considerations had to be balanced with economic interests was always a false dichotomy. A healthy economy requires healthy workers and healthy consumers.

The Omicron surge has created an economic emergency that will be difficult to endure.

But it’s not too late to limit further avoidable contagion. Infection prevention practices (including masks, capacity limits, prohibitions on group indoor activities, PPE and distancing in workplaces, and free and accessible rapid tests) must be restored and enforced.*

Income supports for workers who stay home must be restored. Staffing strategies need to emphasise steady, secure jobs, rather than outsourcing and gig arrangements which have facilitated contagion.

Above all, our policymakers need to remember the economy is composed of human beings, and refocus their attention on keeping people healthy. Protecting people is the only thing that can protect the economy.

Jim Stanford is an economist, Director of the Centre for Future Work at the Australia Institute and honorary professor of political economy at University of Sydney. This piece first appeared on The Conversation.

* AKA: Ive been hitting myself in the balls with this small hammer to cure my piles. Obviously its not working because I need a bigger hammer.

Delta A
Delta A
January 12, 2022 9:54 am

Winston Smithsays:
January 12, 2022 at 2:53 am

That’s beautiful, Winnie.

Thanks for posting it.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 12, 2022 9:56 am

UN seeks record $5bn in aid to help protect the country’s future after the Taliban’s seizure of power.
Pretty sure they passed over the chance of a future.

Cassie of Sydney
January 12, 2022 10:02 am

“Ivan Denisovichsays:
January 12, 2022 at 9:46 am”

Thank you. Bolt succinctly nails it. I posted a comment earlier today and I apologise because I forgot to add two important names to the list of those who’ve been smeared, ridiculed and trashed by Scumbag Morrison. I should have also added the saintly Cardinal Pell and Milo to that list. Oh and another, remember how he trashed our SAS soldiers?

The truth is that Morrison is a fucking disgrace.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 12, 2022 10:03 am

Interesting that Blot has picked up the Christine Holgate thing too. SloMo escaped that with barely a scratch. The Liars and the media not doing their homework.

If you can get it off the 6pm News for two days the caravan rolls on and you are home. Porter never managed to.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 12, 2022 10:07 am

The truth is that Morrison is a fucking disgrace.

Cassie Johnson is right!

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 12, 2022 10:12 am

Electric aircraft is one of the more stupid things that could be done. Great for R/C models and you can make an “acceptable” self launching sailplane (hugely good aerodynamics – lift/drag >50) where the motor runs for a few minutes, stops, folds away and you are in a a sailplane. If you look like landing in a farmer’s field, start motor and at least get to an airport, if not home.
For the rest, forget it. Batteries aren’t nearly good enough. My bugsmasher can go for 8 hours at 80 kilowatts for 640 kilowatt hours and is considered one of the more efficient small aircraft. A good li-ion battery pack would be 200 W-h/Kg including controllers, thermal protection and failure protection systems so would weigh 3200 kilograms. Currently the whole aircraft with pilot, passenger, baggage and full fuel is 900 kg.
Aviation is about 2% of greenhouse emissions (not that these matter at all based on real world evidence) so is hardly low hanging fruit if you are concerned about them.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 12, 2022 10:13 am

Note also: like sailboats nowadays, R/C models and sailplanes are only good for having a bit of fun, not anything serious (small drones may be used for serious purposes).

custard
custard
January 12, 2022 10:18 am

Marxist McGowan is filmed giving a message to Aboriginal people about getting the ChinaVirus jab and after each sentence or two he pauses as his words are interpreted to Aboriginal-English by an Aboriginal woman standing next to him. Seriously!

https://twitter.com/ozraeliavi/status/1481012609121882112?s=21

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 12, 2022 10:18 am

Managed to get a paediatric cannula into the vein at the base of her thumb after putting a rubber tourniquet on the arm and winding it down to engorge the vein. Then removed the tourniquet and reapplied it to the upper arm. Filled the arm up with fluid, and managed to get a cubital fossa #14 in.
Was most chuffed at attempt.

Awesome.
I just lunge for the elbows…. Sick of stuffing round with “back of the hand’…

dopey
dopey
January 12, 2022 10:20 am

Bolt nails it. Janet nails it. So and so nails it. Every man and his dog nails it. Every Tom Dick and Harry nail it. Jesus was a carpenter so he must have nailed it too.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 10:22 am

Or are there others here saying we should vote all sitting members last?

Yes, me.

It was one of his lucid ideas.

Actually, I reckon I brought it up first, better than “Nunn OV V Above”, which was his idea.

Gee he took offence if you didn’t bow down to his “greatness”.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 12, 2022 10:24 am

Cassie Johnson is right!

Incoherent Johnson is right when he says Cassie Johnson is right.

In years past Morrison would have found a job at a regional airport as a windsock – billowing and drooping, swinging around according to every gust or breeze.

Once he is dumped on his butt he will have prospects standing in front of car yards with his arms up, flailing and bobbing and dipping in air while his torso reads ‘Once Yearly Sale!’

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 12, 2022 10:24 am

Or are there others here saying we should vote all sitting members last?

Especially for ministers and shadow ministers.
I like watching ministers lose their seats.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 12, 2022 10:25 am

Hey McGowan
If your audience doesn’t know your language, they probably don’t know who you are either. Stay out of the frame for a change, you whore.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 12, 2022 10:26 am

Electric aircraft is one of the more stupid things that could be done.

But perfect for someone looking for a puddle-jumper
to remind the proles they don’t always use the G5.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 12, 2022 10:26 am

Imagine how shit a plague has to be for this to apparently be happening.

Qld Covid update: chief health officer urges immediate halt to ‘pox parties’ aimed at spreading virus
State records 20,566 new cases amid reports of people deliberately trying to spread coronavirus to increase their immunity

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/11/qld-covid-update-chief-health-officer-urges-immediate-halt-to-pox-parties-aimed-at-spreading-virus

I want names named. Footage & actual proof this is going on beyond a fingiest of the fringe before I believe a word said by the Queensland healthmong in chief.

Queensland health authorities have condemned reports of “pox parties” held by groups of unvaccinated residents on the Gold Coast, which has quickly become the epicentre of the state’s Omicron outbreak.

“See its those anti vaxxers and their…checks notes…. pox parties that are to blame, hate them, hate them my winged monkeys”…

Also imagine how shit you have to be that people would rather get the virus than have your shitty jabs.

twostix
twostix
January 12, 2022 10:26 am

“Morrison is Malcolm Turnbull’s legacy.”

And Turnbull was John Howard’s legacy.

It’s turtles all the way down.

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 10:27 am

Some background on OzSage.

Never heard of them? You will.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 12, 2022 10:27 am

Jim Stanford is an economist, Director of the Centre for Future Work at the Australia Institute and honorary professor of political economy at University of Sydney. This piece first appeared on The Conversation.

Wow is that a combination of fruitloopery or what? Sad that my old uni has turned into an insane asylum and The Monologue is notorious. And the Ponds Institute has a “Centre for Future Work”? LOL. What do they plan to do, train painters to paint roofs white to save us from thermaggeddon?

twostix
twostix
January 12, 2022 10:30 am

What troubles me is how on board they are at a personal level with what has happened to him and how disappointed they were that he wasn’t booted. This will be a reflection of the broader community – commenters here are in the minority.

They aren’t a reflection of what the community think, they are the reason the community think the way they do – lets say 50% of the population watch and eagerly listen to these people and these shows absorbing their message and cultural values like crack addicts and without realising it day by day, year by year, begin to all sound exactly like them.

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 10:30 am

SloMo leaps into action:

Holding “crisis meetings” with industry reps over worker shortage.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 12, 2022 10:32 am

Qld Covid update: chief health officer urges immediate halt to ‘pox parties’ aimed at spreading virus

Considering we are entering the third year of what was supposed to be a two week deal, these CMO’s (Corona Modified Orifices) really do have a credibility problem. For two years their predictions have been wrong again and yet again.

I trust the pox party people more than the CMO.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 12, 2022 10:32 am

LNP researchers take note:

Mother Lode Johnson is right.

Morrison could also get a job as a methane collector (suckarse).

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 10:33 am

The truth is that Morrison is a fucking disgrace.

Hatchet Harry or Brick Top are pleasant compared to ScoMo.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 10:33 am

Jim Stanford is an economist

No, he’s not.

calli
calli
January 12, 2022 10:33 am

Depends which bubble you speak from. Mine tells me I’m in the minority.

Yours may say otherwise.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 12, 2022 10:34 am

A bit sad to see universities reduced to that. But enjoyable nevertheless.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 10:35 am

I trust the pox party people more than the CMO.

“In the embrace of great Nurgle, I am no longer afraid, for with His pestilential favour I have become that which I once feared: Death.”

twostix
twostix
January 12, 2022 10:35 am

Queensland health authorities have condemned reports of “pox parties” held by groups of unvaccinated residents on the Gold Coast, which has quickly become the epicentre of the state’s Omicron outbreak.

After two years of terror culminating in complete catastrophe, policy-speaking, the everyman is ignoring the egg-head central planners who caused the mess and taking the matter into his own hands and making sure he gets immunity that is is god given right to get.

(As if this is even happening – this is the second time Gerrard has run to the “chickenpox party” anti anti-vaxxer trope in a week, he obviously thinks it’s a winner)

Digger
Digger
January 12, 2022 10:35 am

Cassie

Do we want more of this?

I don’t.

As I said before you will get your wish because that is your entire focus. “DESTROY MORRISON AT ALL COSTS” You have taken every step possible to ensure that the ONLY main stream party in Australia that is right of Labor is defeated.

The outcome for us NON ZEALOTS is to suffer sanctimonious outrage for the next ten years about the dire situation Albanese inflicts on the country.

You endlessly complain about Morrisons net zero by 2050 yet you fail to acknowledge the real world repercussions of not doing so in the current global situation. You ain’t seen nothing yet because net zero by 2050 will be glorious compared to what Albanese will inflict on us.

You want Morrison out and the ONLY alternative is Albanese.

I don’t…

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 10:36 am

Holding “crisis meetings” with industry reps over worker shortage.

Unless they are telling crook punters to go to work, there is nothing they can do.
This is the equivalent of rolling strikes or go-slows during the 80’s.
It sucks, but you get through it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 12, 2022 10:36 am

Hopefully Jim Stanford can pick up a Jim’s Mowing franchise and make himself more useful.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 12, 2022 10:38 am

Electric aircraft is one of the more stupid things that could be done.

I think governments should mandate the use of electric aircraft to get to all Climate meetings and Davos. No carbon indulgences! The attendees should lead by example in saving the planet. Also the conferences should serve only bugs and vegetarian finger food.

Seven in ten people unwilling to eat insects such as mealworms – in order to save the planet, study finds (11 Jan, via Climate Depot)

Of the almost 2,000 people who took part in the survey, 90 per cent had heard of plant-based proteins, while 80 per cent were familiar with edible insects, and 78 per cent with lab-grown meat.

While a majority (77 per cent) perceived plant-based proteins as being safe to eat, this dropped to half for edible insects and 30 per cent for lab-grown meat.

Around 34 per cent of people said they were willing to try the latter, while 26 per cent said they would try edible insects.

Hehe, frankenbeef is nearly as on the nose with the punters as black maggots.

Pogria
Pogria
January 12, 2022 10:38 am

Pox Parties are REAL. Here is secret footage of a recent Pox Party being organised in the suburbs.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 10:40 am

Jim Stanford is an economist

He is.
In the kind of way ScoMo is a fiscal conservative.
Or Ron Jeremy is a save yourself until marriage type.

twostix
twostix
January 12, 2022 10:40 am

I’m not disagreeing Calli, I’m just saying the egg made the chicken. The media largely creates the community ‘consensus’, in a secular 50+1 democracy – as we now find ourselves in – it is the mob controller. If the media loved him, the mob and your bubble would love him.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 10:40 am

You endlessly complain about Morrisons net zero by 2050 yet you fail to acknowledge the real world repercussions of not doing so in the current global situation. You ain’t seen nothing yet because net zero by 2050 will be glorious compared to what Albanese will inflict on us

Nuclear power, lower taxes, cut spending, pay off the debt, end the emergency powers, restore civil liberties, reduce the labyrinthine laws and regulations individuals have to overcome to achieve formerly simple goals like building a home on their own property.

EVERY SINGLE PARTY IN AUSTRALIA other than the Greens can do this from their manifestos.

The problem is Morrison and Albanese are not materially different.

Record debt.
Green fairy tales.
Cucking to rabid feminists.
East German like suspension of civil liberties.
Abandonment of the rule of law.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 12, 2022 10:44 am

Nurgle Parties.

The Emperors CHO does not approve.

Cassie of Sydney
January 12, 2022 10:44 am

“Diggersays:
January 12, 2022 at 10:35 am”

“As I said before you will get your wish because that is your entire focus. “DESTROY MORRISON AT ALL COSTS”

LOL…Morrison is destroying himself.

“You have taken every step possible to ensure that the ONLY main stream party in Australia that is right of Labor is defeated.”

Geez….apparently it’ll be my fault if Morrison is defeated. Codswallop.

calli
calli
January 12, 2022 10:45 am

Novak Djokovic = Emmanuel Goldstein

Next week it will be someone different.

twostix
twostix
January 12, 2022 10:46 am

There’s a not insignificant number of people taking the piss with this ‘testing’ stuff to extend the Christmas / NY holidays.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 12, 2022 10:47 am

this is the second time Gerrard has run to the “chickenpox party” anti anti-vaxxer trope in a week, he obviously thinks it’s a winner)

Gerrard has actually said some sensible things recently. Maybe this is his subtle way of telling the bogans who didn’t think of it to go and do it?

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 10:47 am

Unless they are telling crook punters to go to work, there is nothing they can do.

They could allow the asymptomatic to return to work earlier than 7 days. There is that.

They’re already locking it in for health workers.

cohenite
January 12, 2022 10:49 am

This for me was the best Tom Toon this morning:

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The point is all lefties, no matter what their position, obey that maxim: whatever it takes.

Don’t vote for any conservative who does not understand that and still thinks you can reason with a leftie.

Tom
Tom
January 12, 2022 10:50 am

Jim Stanford is an economist, Director of the Centre for Future Work at the Australia Institute and honorary professor of political economy at University of Sydney.

Hahaha. The Ponds Institute won’t rest until its big government Keynesian Marxists have destroyed the Australian economy because they haven’t a clue how it works. Hint: Supply creates demand.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 12, 2022 10:50 am

Unless they are telling crook punters to go to work, there is nothing they can do.

I was at Coles earlier, the meat section was an empty wasteland of shelves with an occasional packet something here or there. So in search of currawong fodder I went over to Woolies, which is a bit further away with less convenient parking.

Meat section well stocked and pretty normal. No limits on packets of mince or anything else.

That makes me think it might be internal company policies which are the issue, particularly over close contacts and testing. If Coles uses RATs the false positives would be a big problem.

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 10:51 am

Gold Coast mayor Tom Tate is a sort of self-made can do character.

He wrote an op-ed in their paper yesterday saying the present “let it rip slowly” approach is a burden on both people and the economy. The earlier the authorities withdrawal all restrictions – except for the sick – the earlier we can get back to a semblance of normality and start to rebuild .

Cassie of Sydney
January 12, 2022 10:51 am

My “Liberal party” credentials are rock solid, I was once a member of the party (I resigned when the Turd executed Abbott).

For decades I have stood in hot and cold weather handing out how to vote cards for the Liberal party, at both state and federal elections. Last election I volunteered for Dave Sharma at Bondi Junction…spending eight hours on my feet.

Never again.

Cassie of Sydney
January 12, 2022 10:52 am

“Dotsays:
January 12, 2022 at 10:40 am”

You’ve said it best.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 12, 2022 10:52 am

Custard, I couldn’t continue watch that interpreter try and speak for McGowan.
It was embarrassing, infantile, and the most cringe-worthy footage I have seen for a long time.
In an effort to go uber PC he has kicked himself in the nuts.
It reminds me of the SBS putting English subtitles on news and interviews with English speaking people who simply have an accent.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 12, 2022 10:53 am

The only real difference between the Liars and the Lieborals is the unions. The Liars give them a free kick, the Lieborals at least make them go back behind the mark. The Lieborals still bother to pretend they are not being lead around by the nose by the Greens.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 10:53 am

Gerrard has actually said some sensible things recently. Maybe this is his subtle way of telling the bogans who didn’t think of it to go and do it?

Eyrie, you might just be onto something.
Good old Br’er Rabbit Gerrard !

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 12, 2022 10:55 am

Roger

They could allow the asymptomatic to return to work earlier than 7 days. There is that.

They’re already locking it in for health workers.

Once they agree for asymptomatic health workers, there is no logical way to deny permission for warehouse workers, meat workers, farm worker, truck drivers and similar jobs.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 12, 2022 10:56 am

No way Fizzer would’ve yeeted the CEO for failing to enhance shareholder value.
It was probably a case of not for bullshit good english speakink which caused some confusion.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 12, 2022 10:59 am

I got soldier fly larvae in my worm bin a few years ago. I have no problem picking up a handful of worms but they are a bridge too far.

twostix
twostix
January 12, 2022 11:00 am

Surprise!

From 9am today NSW residents must report positive rapid antigen tests dating back to January 1 or face a $1000 fine. NSW records 34,759 cases, Vic has 40,127.

Now it’s retrospective rules and punishment.

And also they’re starting to tighten the noose around the neck of the compliant.

We had a lovely christmas / new years – living outside the system. Some vaxxies we know had a nightmare of a time because they are trying to stay in the system and be good and follow the rules and it ruined their holiday – and they caught covid anyway and are going to be caught up in the above so their nightmare continues.

There’s a lesson there.

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 11:00 am

More here on Farage’s return to politics to court the “purple wall” of socially conservative former Labor voters who have been betrayed by Bozo:

His plan is to remind voters across the Red Wall that one quarter of their electricity bills is now spent on green subsidies, that Channel crossings are out of control, that immigration has not yet been brought back under control and that under Boris Johnson the country is now ruled by “a metropolitan Tory chumocracy totally detached from the rest of the country”.

Razey
Razey
January 12, 2022 11:00 am

How is Maximum Leader vax economy going? LOL

twostix
twostix
January 12, 2022 11:03 am

They locked up entire cities and states to prevent a positive single case from ‘spreading’.

Now they’re telling doctors and nurses to go to work if they’re positive.

Unvaccinated healthy people are still banned though. No change – because Science!.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 12, 2022 11:03 am

Dining on RATS.

Dominic Perrottet outlines plan to get NSW through Omicron outbreak, considering launching vouchers for RATs (12 Jan)

The New South Wales government is considering a range of economic measures to assist residents through the current outbreak of COVID-19 including potentially providing Dine and Discover-type vouchers for rapid antigen tests (RAT), Premier Dominic Perrottet has revealed in an exclusive interview.

The unspeakable in Wilde pursuit of the uneatable!

Diogenes
Diogenes
January 12, 2022 11:06 am

Once they agree for asymptomatic health workers, there is no logical way to deny permission for warehouse workers, meat workers, farm worker, truck drivers and similar jobs.

Here is my proposed simple rule…
If you are sick
– stay home
else
– go to work

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 11:08 am

They locked up entire cities and states to prevent a positive single case from ‘spreading’.

Now they’re telling doctors and nurses to go to work if they’re positive.

Necessity is the mother of invention!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 12, 2022 11:08 am

And speaking of hot RATs why would you ever actually do one?

Australians face $1,000 fine in NSW if they fail to register positive rapid antigen results (12 Jan)

People who fail to register positive rapid antigen test results with the New South Wales government will be hit with a $1,000 fine, Premier Dominic Perrottet says.

“We made a decision as a government that the registration of that test is mandatory and you will need to register your positive rapid antigen test from January 1,” Mr Perrottet said at a Wednesday morning media conference.

“This health order has been signed off this morning – and in terms of enforcement if someone fails to register a positive rapid antigen test there will be a $1000 fine.”

Wow the Karens must be giving him curry, he sounds like he’s under immense DO SOMETHING pressure. The level of social insanity is incredible right now.

Baba
Baba
January 12, 2022 11:10 am

Rogersays:
January 12, 2022 at 10:27 am
Some background on OzSage.

Excerpt

On Saturday, Raina MacIntyre, an infectious diseases expert at the Kirby Institute, recommended that people who live in apartments seal their doors with tape, to keep out the virus, if they can smell their neighbours’ cooking.

Mass Formation Psychosis is bullshit.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 12, 2022 11:11 am

How on earth will the PerrotetPolice enforce the mandatory reporting of positive RAT tests?
And as for the retrospective rule, that’s another Pandora’s Box.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 12, 2022 11:13 am

The level of social insanity is incredible right now.

Harsh.
But extremely accurate, BoN.

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 11:15 am

“This health order has been signed off this morning – and in terms of enforcement if someone fails to register a positive rapid antigen test there will be a $1000 fine.”

And just like that they pull a $1000 fine – which many citizens would find burdensome – out of thin air and backdate its applicability.

Delegated legislation is none too subtly transferring power and responsibility from politicians to unlected and unaccountable bureaucrats and undermining our democratic rights.

twostix
twostix
January 12, 2022 11:15 am

Like ‘QR codes’ and vaccine passports, implementing a home testing / self-notification system was always part of the ‘live with it’ (and forever) phase of the pandemic response plan. They’ve known they were going to do this since the start, this is all just theatre as they implement what was always going to be implemented.

They’ll make you provide id to buy them soon so they can account for all of them.

And they’ll link the results of them to your app.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 11:19 am

I would like to think that recording that you’ve got the spicy cough is your golden ticket out of this.

Baba
Baba
January 12, 2022 11:21 am

Old School Conservativesays:
January 12, 2022 at 11:11 am
How on earth will the PerrotetPolice enforce the mandatory reporting of positive RAT tests?

Government-issued RAT vouchers
Random household audits by authorised officers
Enthusiastic support of media who will hysterically name and shame infractors.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 12, 2022 11:22 am

The level of social insanity is incredible right now.

No. They have made themselves visible.
They’ve always been there.

calli
calli
January 12, 2022 11:22 am

I can’t see how the RATs notifications will work. It still involves voluntary participation.

The only way they can make people take them is to use the RAT as a “passport” to participate, not the vaxx.

Am I missing something here?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 11:24 am

Am I missing something here?

No.
Separate to that, there needs to be a way to reliably record you’ve had COVID.
Even if it means shit in Australia, there will be some saner jurisdictions who will end up accepting the one & done status.

Tom
Tom
January 12, 2022 11:25 am

From 9am today NSW residents must report positive rapid antigen tests dating back to January 1 or face a $1000 fine.

Imagine that: tell the government if you’ve had a cold or face a $1000 fine, courtesy of the “Liberal” party and its untouchable unelected “experts”. As much tyranny as it takes from the puppet Perrottet regime.

The NSW premier is little more than a useful idiot who believes in nothing — positively Morrisonesque. Why vote for either of them if you can get the same full-on Stalinism from Comrade Albo?

Cassie of Sydney
January 12, 2022 11:27 am

My sister had just texted me to ask how the authorities are going to check if you haven’t registered your RAT test? She says that they’ll be knocking on our doors next.

East Germany with koalas.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 12, 2022 11:27 am

All the above discussions on the character of Scummo – anyone still think the POS is not capable of selling out Australia & its people???

calli
calli
January 12, 2022 11:27 am

I get the curiosity part – it would be interesting to know whether you had the thing or not.

By using the RAT, they are admitting that the (virtually) forced vaxx and booster is useless. Or alternatively, and to my mind more sinisterly, that Covid itself is not the problem – it’s compliance.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 12, 2022 11:28 am

I reckon Albo would be cheaper to bribe than Morrison.
Vote 1 Albo, because I can afford him.

Baba
Baba
January 12, 2022 11:28 am

They’ll make you provide id to buy them soon so they can account for all of them.

And they’ll link the results of them to your app.

The private import of RAT’s will be an offence.

Cassie of Sydney
January 12, 2022 11:28 am

“Imagine that: tell the government if you’ve had a cold or face a $1000 fine, courtesy of the “Liberal” party and its untouchable unelected “experts”. As much tyranny as it takes from the puppet Perrottet regime.

The NSW premier is little more than a useful idiot who believes in nothing — positively Morrisonesque. Why vote for either of them if you can get the same full-on Stalinism from Comrade Albo?”

Quite so Tom…but….but remember, they’re supposedly a right of centre party and thus they’re not nearly as bad as a Labor government.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 12, 2022 11:29 am

The only way they can make people take them is to use the RAT as a “passport” to participate, not the vaxx.

You mean like a certain tennis player? Too soon. Give it a couple of weeks.

Chris
Chris
January 12, 2022 11:29 am

On that point, a new article in Lancet suggests to me

I think I see a problem…

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 11:30 am

Am I missing something here?

There is the little problem that the RATs are returning a lot of false negatives for Omicron and scientists overseas are already saying they’re not fit for purpose. It’s to be hoped that by the time they come up with something that is we’ll be looking at Omicron and the virues generally in the rear-view mirror, not least because of the accelerated spread caused by allowing infected but asymptomatic people who tested negative to mingle among us.

Shh…don’t tell them.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 12, 2022 11:30 am

East Germany with koalas.

East Germany with shitstained koalas.

Diogenes
Diogenes
January 12, 2022 11:31 am

The level of social insanity is incredible right now.

You should see the hysterics on one of the Teachers blogs I am on. “Wherallllllllgunnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaadiieeeeeee!!!!” – it was not appreciated when I posted teh link to the Oxford Covid risk calculator

Baba
Baba
January 12, 2022 11:31 am

Or alternatively, and to my mind more sinisterly, that Covid itself is not the problem – it’s compliance.

That’s always been the case. It’s the lack of respect shown by the non-compliant which sticks in their craw. Hence the spite directed towards the unvaxxed.

C.L.
C.L.
January 12, 2022 11:32 am

Hang on.
Sky and 2GB and The Australian assured me Dom Pirouette was a ‘conservative’ game-changer.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 12, 2022 11:33 am

I expect RATs will scanned out to an individual at some stage. And scanned back in and matched up later. Can’t have people doing their own RATs without the government knowing.

calli
calli
January 12, 2022 11:33 am

That’s how I’m seeing it too, Roger. The whole thing is unworkable.

Fining people who return a +ve on a dodgy test? The first court challenge would blow it out of the water.

They’re dodging and weaving. Soon it will be panicking. So much simpler and less damaging to admit defeat and that you were wrong. Idiots.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 11:35 am

New campaign sloganeering:

—–

…Trump. Shorten. Albanese.

Teach these disgusting men to RESPECT. WOMEN!

—-

…Scott Morrison and Dom Perrottet: keeping YOU SAFE with RATs and $1000 fines.

—-

– ends

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 11:37 am

They are going to investigate the truthiness of Djokovic’s travel before he left for Australia.
While they are at it, maybe they can investigate the travel of the diplomat who was the start of the Avalon cluster at Christmas 2020.

Baba
Baba
January 12, 2022 11:37 am

The first court challenge would blow it out of the water?

Are you sure? I doubt there are too many Judge Kelly’s out there.

Barry
Barry
January 12, 2022 11:38 am

I have recently started to rely on the analogy of the COVID Response with the M&J Sexual Response Cycle.
Excitement – Plateau – Climax – Resolution

We seem to have left the “Plateau” phase, and are approaching the “Climax”.
Soon we will just have a bit of cleaning up to do, and bask in the “Resolution”

And maybe a ciggie.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 11:38 am

I expect RATs will scanned out to an individual at some stage. And scanned back in and matched up later. Can’t have people doing their own RATs without the government knowing.

How are they going to check them?

Run PCR tests with warrantless DNA against them all?

Use a HPLC/MS to determine what kind of epithelial cells are on the swab, or if they were ever inserted nasally? Video the event?

The compliance costs would be astronomical and very illegal to do.

The hordes of madness are breaking.

Hold the line, brothers and sisters!

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 12, 2022 11:38 am

East Germany with shitstained koalas.

I got peed on by a koala as a child. I struggled with Blinky Bill after that. Dopey jumped up rodents.

Baba
Baba
January 12, 2022 11:38 am

Oops! Errant ?

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 11:40 am

While they are at it, maybe they can investigate the travel of the diplomat who was the start of the Avalon cluster at Christmas 2020.

LOL

You’re a funny guy. I bet he has Asian skanks (his words, not mine, surely lovely people) lay out his silk pyjamas before he retires to bed? You don’t want to get $2000 pairs of pyjamas dirty with Ocha tea.

HE WAS A KING IN PATTAYA, HOW DARE YOU MAKE HIM SUBMIT TO RULES THAT TAX PROLES MUST OBEY?!

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 11:40 am

You should see the hysterics on one of the Teachers blogs I am on. “Wherallllllllgunnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaadiieeeeeee!!!!” – it was not appreciated when I posted teh link to the Oxford Covid risk calculator

Teachers not interested in evidence, eh?

Please tell me these weren’t science or maths teachers.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 12, 2022 11:40 am

Dot.
For the Viktoristan election the opposition (whoever that is) should just show non-stop video of Dan’s thugs beating the shit out of young women, grannies, the pregnant etc.
At the end of the advert, “You are next!”

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 11:41 am

“For your own good!”

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 11:42 am

The compliance costs would be astronomical and very illegal to do.

So?
Why start worrying about costs & legality now?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 12, 2022 11:42 am

Quite so Tom…but….but remember, they’re supposedly a right of centre party and thus they’re not nearly as bad as a Labor government.

Sad but true. Like being asked do you want to vote for the Libs and have your left leg amputated, or vote for Labor and have both legs amputated. Else vote for neither and hide as best you can from the madmen with bonesaws, which is my choice.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 11:43 am

“Rare” and “colourised”.

Victoriastan’s televisual anthem, sung by the great Mike Patton.

Faith No More – “Stripsearch” (Official Music Video) from the album ‘Album of the Year’ (1997)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_U6165DVeM

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 11:44 am

Sky and 2GB and The Australian assured me Dom Pirouette was a ‘conservative’ game-changer.

I’m not without some sympathy for him.

He got off to a good start but he’s been worn down, predictably.

Imagine having Kerry Chant come into your office every morning to advise on how many deaths you were responsible for overnight.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 12, 2022 11:46 am

From 9am today NSW residents must report positive rapid antigen tests dating back to January 1 or face a $1000 fine.

Enforcement will be a panic.
Unless you ‘fess up, there is no real prospect for forensic conviction:

• The used RAT has long since gone in the bin (and in any event would be unreadable 30 minutes after the test, so forget mandatory preservation of ‘evidence’);

• Subsequent positive diagnosis tells you nothing about your known Pox status at the time of the RAT – the tests are significantly unreliable.

Anyone standing weepily in front of a beak and admitting to RAT crime always loved Big Brother.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 11:46 am

Chant, Hazzard, Speakman, Elliot, you are dismissed.

Everyone but Traudl Junge must leave.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 11:47 am

Hold up.

Everyone but Alexandra Maria Lara must leave.

Say, have you seen this movie with Maggie Gyllenhall and James Spader?

twostix
twostix
January 12, 2022 11:47 am

Like most of this stuff most people will self-comply.

It’s like the QLD border. There’s no road block, but the lengths QLDers went to to self-comply even with with the chaos over NY, just to come back to their own homes, some were driving all over NSW looking for a test.

They could have just driven home. I’m sure many did. But many, many are in a prison of their own mind and can’t bear the thought of being naughty and “ending up on A Current Affair” as someone once said to me.

We’ve got a major shame cult going.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 11:49 am

Oh my god.

Blonde Same Hyde (“school shooter”) looks like a young James Spader.

The nonsense Terrence McKenna was spouting the other day is making more and more sense.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 12, 2022 11:53 am

Brave new world we live in:

A spate of wins by transgender women in elite US college swimming has prompted top female athletes and women’s groups to warn the Biden administration, which has granted men who’ve artificially become women the same rights to compete as biological women, it will destroy women’s sport altogether.

The victory of 20-year-old Yale swimmer Iszac Henig, a female transitioning to be male, over Pennsylvania University’s Lia Thomas, a male who has transitioned to be female, in a women’s inter-college swimming race last week prompted outrage among parents and calls for the sport’s governing body, the National Collegiate Athletic Association, to clarify the rules.

Oz

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 12, 2022 11:53 am

Will people start “expressing saliva” and saving it in the fridge to put on later RAT tests.
If you need to stay negative to work, why not?
Once again, Coatesworth delivers some A-grade commonsense.
“If you’re crook, stay home. If you’re not crook, go to work”.
Standard operating procedure pre-2020.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 12, 2022 11:54 am

Their ABC pushing the drowning Moron Government back under water:

Andy Murray says Novak Djokovic has questions to answer about movements after positive COVID-19 test

Murray, who has lost to the 34-year-old in four Australian Open finals, said it was crucial that Djokovic revealed his movements in the days following his positive diagnosis.

Spanish Foreign Minister Jose Manuel Albares said on Tuesday he did not have information on whether Djokovic had visited Spain before travelling to Australia, and he had “not been contacted by the Australian government to request such documentation”.

Helping.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 11:55 am

Once again, Coatesworth delivers some A-grade commonsense.
“If you’re crook, stay home. If you’re not crook, go to work”.

Sounds like a crank.
Best to deplatform him just to be safe.

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 11:55 am

But many, many are in a prison of their own mind and can’t bear the thought of being naughty and “ending up on A Current Affair” as someone once said to me.

Was it John Safran who turned up with a film crew at Ray Martin’s house demanding an interview?

Martin was not amused.

Brilliant.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 12, 2022 11:58 am

The Australian Republic Movement has unveiled a new model for a republic it says would succeed at a referendum and sever ties with the Royal Family.

The new model, named Australian Choice, proposes that all Australian parliaments would nominate a candidate for head of state which would then be put forward to a national ballot.

The elected head of state would hold power for a five-year term, and be responsible for appointing the prime minister as the person who has the majority support of the house of representatives.

The new head of state would also be responsible for calling an election if no leader could obtain majority support in the House of Representatives, but would have no authority over the setting of government policy or the passing of legislation.

After a two year consultation period with members of the public, parliamentarians and academics, The Australian Republic Movement is hopeful this approach would achieve majority support in a national vote.

Research undertaken by the organisation has found 73 per cent of Australians would vote for a republic if this model was put to a referendum.

Reported in the Oz, together with a picture of Fitzsimon, which must have driven away at least 25% of potential supporters.

Lysander
Lysander
January 12, 2022 12:02 pm

So a pissy little ACT “Parliament” gets an equal vote with NSW?

I smell a (dead) fish…

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 12:02 pm

The new model, named Australian Choice, proposes that all Australian parliaments would nominate a candidate for head of state which would then be put forward to a national ballot.

Given the proensity of people to be parochial and vote for thier state’s candidate, this would advantage the two most populous states.

They haven’t thought this through very well. Or they consider this a feature and not a bug.

Delta A
Delta A
January 12, 2022 12:03 pm

I reckon Albo would be cheaper to bribe than Morrison.

I imagine there’s been some serious pollie bribing by big pharma to ensure that they stay on script. Someone recently put up a post showing that 73 (?) members of US Congress have shares in Pfizer, Moderna and J&J. It would be no different here.

Every politician and health bureaucrat should be made to state their financial interest in big pharma and renewable energy projects.

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 12:04 pm

A p has gone missing in cyber space. Thankfully, I’ve no shortage of them.

calli
calli
January 12, 2022 12:05 pm

I reckon Albo would be cheaper to bribe than Morrison.

That assumes these guys need to be bribed.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 12:07 pm

I can’t respect anything that comes out of the ARM.

They’re more interested in “pwning monarchists” than appealing to the public.

Which means, begrudgingly, I must respect the intellect of the monarchists.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 12, 2022 12:08 pm

Was it John Safran who turned up with a film crew at Ray Martin’s house demanding an interview?

One of the great moments on Australian TV. Up there with Normie Rowe on The Midday Show.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
January 12, 2022 12:09 pm

Delta A,
Hunt’s extended family are minting it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 12, 2022 12:10 pm

He was actually going through Ray’s garbage. LOL.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
January 12, 2022 12:13 pm

CNN just reported that the Australian Minister is investigating Djokovic’s “travels” for 14 days prior to Oz arrival, and that the paperwork was not filled out by Dj himself, but by Tennis Australia ! TA apparently unaware that Dj was in both Spain and Serbia prior to Xmas. How amusing !

Digger
Digger
January 12, 2022 12:14 pm

Quite so Tom…but….but remember, they’re supposedly a right of centre party and thus they’re not nearly as bad as a Labor government.

Not sure who said they are right of centre… they are certainly right of Labor.

This is and always has been a socialist country, just some are more socialist than others.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 12:16 pm

My republic options:

1. Direct election like Ireland.
2. State Premiere appoint their own governors, subject to State Parliament approval.
3. Copy that for the Commonwealth or the most senior State Governor is in line to be appointed as President when a term ends.
4. Rotate the Presidency between the States.
5. As in 4., but with sortition, appointment and approval referenda. Or no rotation and do this Federally.
6. Eliminate the head of State position, divvy out the powers to the Cabinet, PM, Parliament, Parliamentary officers and High Court.

My beef with the ARM is they make everything so convoluted, it is more about beating the ACM in a moderated high school debate. No one wants what they offer. They want elite control over institutions. I doubt they are true Republicans, I know they certainly are not democrats.

Baba
Baba
January 12, 2022 12:18 pm

How many 2022 pelts hanging off Djoker’s belt?

And he hasn’t even hit a tennis ball in anger, yet.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 12:18 pm

Australia is a fake country.
Why not have a fake head of state?

Speedbox
January 12, 2022 12:18 pm

Miss Anthropist says:
January 11, 2022 at 9:53 pm
Speedbox, Are you sure you know what fulsome means? Again asking for a pedantic friend.

Yes I do and you’re right. Shouldn’t have used it in that context. Should have used ‘generous’ or perhaps ‘ungrudging’. Not pedantic – fair pick up.

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 12:18 pm

From the little I’ve seen of his work, Safran seems a genuinely funny and interesting character.

bespoke
bespoke
January 12, 2022 12:20 pm

Mother Lodesays:
January 12, 2022 at 9:14 am
I thought that was one of Memory Vault’s things. He has some psephologial stratagem in mind – a very precise one – and anyone who did otherwise was actually voting for Labor.

A manic depressant, chronic catastrophe with delusions of being an oracle with limited contact to the outside world.

I think it’s reasonable to suspect his solutions are just away to prove himself right.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 12, 2022 12:20 pm

East Germany with shitstained koalas.

With a runny nose, a wheeze and a cough.

….
For the Viktoristan election the opposition (whoever that is) should just show non-stop video of Dan’s thugs beating the shit out of young women, grannies, the pregnant etc.

My all time favourite meme from the detention days onwards..

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 12:22 pm

Why not have a fake head of state?

LOL, we already do in the governor-general whose powers no one can definitively state. “Do not look behind the curtain!”.

Soon we will have a fake monarch too.

(Charles III will be King – there is NOTHING we can do about it).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 12, 2022 12:23 pm

Was it John Safran who turned up with a film crew at Ray Martin’s house demanding an interview?

Yes.
Apparently Ray’s privacy was paramount.
We are seeing the same thing play out today.
3AW presenters quacking on about the “private conversation” of the Seven newsreaders being broadcast.
Callers handing them their arse by pointing out a number of examples where Seven has broadcast private conversations of others.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 12, 2022 12:26 pm

there is NOTHING we can do about it

Are you sure? What are Cromwell’s descendants doing these days?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 12, 2022 12:26 pm

Rogersays:
January 12, 2022 at 12:18 pm
From the little I’ve seen of his work, Safran seems a genuinely funny and interesting character.

One of his better ones was ‘John safran vs God”.

Highlights were him taking the piss out of everyone… he also had brass balls joining a neo nazi mob in the US then asking if his being Jewish was a problem…

Plus the all time best takedown of smug atheists ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ghIU_tlX0k

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 12, 2022 12:26 pm

CNN just reported that the Australian Minister is investigating Djokovic’s “travels” for 14 days prior to Oz arrival, and that the paperwork was not filled out by Dj himself, but by Tennis Australia ! TA apparently unaware that Dj was in both Spain and Serbia prior to Xmas. How amusing !

The World’s media desperately wants Scummo to boot Djokovic.

The shitstorm that would keep giving.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
January 12, 2022 12:27 pm

Twostix,
I have no app or QR code. What ever will I do?

2dogs
2dogs
January 12, 2022 12:28 pm

Australian Republic

As well as the federation, each of the states is also a monarchy, at present.

If we are to have republic, the states should go first.

We can pick the federal model from whichever state model works best.

C.L.
C.L.
January 12, 2022 12:28 pm

Gerrard does it again:

Chief Health Officer Dr John Gerrard said the data coming through now, as a result of the hospitalisation numbers, was making it very clear that people needed to be vaccinated.

“You are nine times more likely to end up in hospital if you are unvaccinated than if you are triple vaxxed,” he said.

Count the double vaxxed (formerly known as the ‘fully vaxxed’) as unvaccinated and voila!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 12, 2022 12:29 pm

I wasn’t a huge fan of Saffran but two pieces of work stood out:-
1. His takedown of Ray Martin who was totally blind to his own hypocrisy;
2. Finding a house in inner city Melbourne with “Land Rights Now” and “Give it Back” stickers in the window, and teeing up an Aboriginal bloke to knock on the door and reclaim his property.

Mater
January 12, 2022 12:29 pm

I have no app or QR code. What ever will I do?

Nothing, if they have their way.

C.L.
C.L.
January 12, 2022 12:31 pm

Per Pfizer CEO, by March the tripe-vaxxed will also be unvaccinated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBJ5NC5zJac

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 12, 2022 12:31 pm

Inco are you offering to do albosnaggletooth freebies so he doesn’t have to spend up large at the Thai rub’n’tug?

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 12:31 pm

Callers handing them their arse by pointing out a number of examples where Seven has broadcast private conversations of others.

When journalists do it it’s in the public good.

This was purely gratuitous.

Cough.

Turn TV news presenters into celebrities and then call foul when they become the news.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 12, 2022 12:31 pm

East Germany with koalas.

The Kangaroo Gulag

twostix
twostix
January 12, 2022 12:32 pm

Murray, who has lost to the 34-year-old in four Australian Open finals, said it was crucial that Djokovic revealed his movements in the days following his positive diagnosis.

Holy shit lol.

We’re moving into proper witchhunt territory.

Also any of his competitors have more than a little vested interest in him being given the treatment.

Cassie of Sydney
January 12, 2022 12:34 pm

“3AW presenters quacking on about the “private conversation” of the Seven newsreaders being broadcast.”

I bet they wouldn’t say that if it had been a Sky after Dark newsreader/commentator.

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 12:35 pm

2. Finding a house in inner city Melbourne with “Land Rights Now” and “Give it Back” stickers in the window, and teeing up an Aboriginal bloke to knock on the door and reclaim his property.

That’s what I liked, his willingness to take on the Establishment’s sacred cows, the way satirists used to do before they all became paid up members of The Greens.

Dot
Dot
January 12, 2022 12:36 pm

Andy “Matthew Hopkins” Murray, as he is known to his friends.

C.L.
C.L.
January 12, 2022 12:37 pm
Frank
Frank
January 12, 2022 12:38 pm

For the $1000 non reporting of the RAT test results: “I bought it but lost the test before I used it” or “I bought it and haven’t used it yet” would get them off your backs. No way they could prove otherwise.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 12, 2022 12:38 pm

lost to the 34-year-old in four Australian Open finals

Who’s the bigger loser?
Andy Murray or John McCain?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 12, 2022 12:38 pm

Inco are you offering to do albosnaggletooth freebies so he doesn’t have to spend up large at the Thai rub’n’tug?

No. Happy endings will be a medicare item with a small gap.

Roger
Roger
January 12, 2022 12:40 pm

Also any of his competitors have more than a little vested interest in him being given the treatment.

If Australians still backed the anti-authoritarian underdog out of a sense fo fair play, Dkokovic would be cheeered on if gets to play. Instead, Melburnians are reportedly planning to boo him.

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