Open Thread – Mon 17 Jan 2022


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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 10:20 pm

Fernando Rukshan.
Another Johnny-come-lately who is clueless about this country and simply can’t be counted on.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 17, 2022 10:21 pm

If this parochial, pineapple flag-waving shit continues I’m going to start talking about one of Quenthland’s once-favourite pastimes.

Blackbirding. Maybe the folk that started that ‘knew a little more.’

Feel free to post about blackbirding, PC Windbag.

miltonf
miltonf
January 17, 2022 10:22 pm

Early colonial history in Australia is actually awesome and if you think it is boring, you haven’t gone deep enough.

yes it is- MacArthur and Bligh come to mind. Love to visit MacArthur’s mansion at Camden Park

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 10:22 pm

Sod off you sheep buggering, fine lace cloth and land stealing, rum hoarding convict and lobster scum.

They couldn’t prove the lobster thing.

JC
JC
January 17, 2022 10:23 pm

Early colonial history in Australia is actually awesome and if you think it is boring, you haven’t gone deep enough.

People had a decent relative standard of living, but it was a sleepy hollow prior to the Gold Rush. It was the Gold Rush that turned the place into a real country.

But here’s the thing though, Stix talks about a proud history. It’s okay but nothing out of the ordinary. The US has had a proud history through its two internal wars. They chucked out the mother country. We sucked up to ours until the latter part of last century. You have to grow up at some point.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 10:24 pm

You do realise, Greta, that your standard bearer in battle this evening is Ed Case.
Think about that for a moment.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2022 10:24 pm

‘My 7x granny came here on the First Fleet for pinching a loaf of bread, so don’t you DARE question my economic policy or opinions of the character of other people!’

All day. Allllllll day.

Indolent
Indolent
January 17, 2022 10:24 pm

Two Omicron Studies Are Fantastic News That Should End Mandates and Restrictions

The real question is not can they end it, it’s do they want to end it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 17, 2022 10:26 pm

Early colonial history. Chockers with Chinese and Afghanis, not to mention the kanakas.

Wow!
I had no idea we were so blessed.
Tell us, in your own words, about the marvelous contribution to Colonial Australia that the Chinese, Afghanis and Kanakas made.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2022 10:26 pm

‘I tell a lotta lies.’

Hmmm. That is exactly, to the word, what Liability Bob said once.

srr
srr
January 17, 2022 10:27 pm

Cardimona says:
January 17, 2022 at 9:26 pm
Just so Cats know, BJ has proposed to my daughter.
It’ll be in tomorrow’s papers…
They’re very happy together.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 17, 2022 10:27 pm

Here’s a starting point:
Google a list of persons Judicially Executed in Queensland before 1913.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 17, 2022 10:28 pm

yes it is- MacArthur and Bligh come to mind. Love to visit MacArthur’s mansion at Camden Park

It’s worthy of note that Elizabeth MacArthur did much of the work in establishing the Australian wool industry, while her husband was away on England, facing court’s martial for fighting a duel with his commanding officer…

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2022 10:28 pm

Edbob.

It’s a blog, not a collection of essays.

In your own words – refute it if you can.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 10:32 pm

Cardimona says:
January 17, 2022 at 9:26 pm
Just so Cats know, BJ has proposed to my daughter.

All together now … 1. 2. 3.
GET FUCKED BARNABY!

Jorge
Jorge
January 17, 2022 10:34 pm

Each child should be able to have up to four parents to reflect modern “rainbow” and “patchwork” families, Germany’s LGBTQ commissioner has said.

France will be Muslim majority by 2050 or thereabouts. Germany not much different. Germany’s LGBTQ Commissioner is in for a surprise unless xi means three mums and a dad.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
January 17, 2022 10:34 pm

I would set fire to my cash before I gave a cracker to Oxfam.

They use their well intentioned donation money UN and government grants to be chauffeured around in Mercedes limousines and live in five star hotels in some of the most benighted countries in the world.

Parasites.

miltonf
miltonf
January 17, 2022 10:35 pm

Yep Oxfam absolutely stinks.

srr
srr
January 17, 2022 10:37 pm

mh says:
January 17, 2022 at 9:07 pm

Novak Djokovic Saga Causes Refunds to Outstrip Ticket Sales at Australian Open

https://www.newsweek.com/novak-djokovic-saga-causes-refunds-outstrip-ticket-sales-australian-open-1669815

srr
srr
January 17, 2022 10:38 pm

mh says:
January 17, 2022 at 9:02 pm
“Liberty Quote

Australia’s immigration laws are now based on whether or not your presence will produce support for Big Pharma’s consumer goods.

Djokovic’s presence may have reduced support for Big Pharma’s consumer goods and therefore he’s being deported.
—- Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation”

srr
srr
January 17, 2022 10:40 pm

Pureblood Bulldog Breed
@Gary3

17m
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Canada News
Speak out!
https://gab.com/Gary3/posts/107637539703396845

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 10:41 pm

True Pedro.
To my eternal shame I was donating to them years ago.
It stopped after I wrote to them cancelling my subs because their Australian boss (Andrew Hewett?) made a complete dick of himself.
Which he then confirmed with a return letter explaining “the broader role of charities in society”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2022 10:42 pm

Pedro:

‘government grants to be chauffeured around in Mercedes limousines and live in five-star hotels’

Please. Enough about the Departments of Health in this country.

John H.
John H.
January 17, 2022 10:42 pm

Dotsays:
January 17, 2022 at 10:14 pm
Early colonial history in Australia is actually awesome and if you think it is boring, you haven’t gone deep enough.

An elective of mine was Australian Society History in the 19th century. Much more interesting than the typical history of then Big Bloke did X fired his gun and we invaded blah blah. The course was very much about the everyday life and struggles and by golly did the early settlers struggle.

Since people here are presently on a particularly bandwagon and not 20 minutes ago I finished writing up this rant but it needs revision …

Climbing Mount Virtue

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 10:49 pm

I assume that was in the OpEd section of the Gruarniard?

pete m
pete m
January 17, 2022 10:51 pm

Covid update for those in the cheap seats.

Day 6 required me to get a RAP test. I know I have covid so not much point, but I couldn’t feel safe going back to work without it / waited for 48 hours no serious symptoms.

So finally got it day 7. Came up very positive. Big positive.

In hindsight I should have got the pcr on day 3 iso when the fevers started. Let that be a lesson to those wishing to do the right thing. Waiting in line for 3 hours didn’t really appeal but now would have saved 4 days of iso. No matter what you do unless you want to knowingly not care about infecting others you will end up just spending more time on the sidelines.

The silly part is I went out today after my 7 day initial period ended to get my meds, then did test later at home.

Funny part is last week when apparently covid free according to Monday’s pcr test had almost whole week off sick.

This week I’ll be working from home but covid positive and supposedly unwell.

Sigh.

Hope all are well and getting thru these crazy times.

rosie
rosie
January 17, 2022 10:52 pm

Nice work John.
I get asked where I’m from all the time atm 🙂
Do you have more blog posts btw?

Twostix
Twostix
January 17, 2022 10:54 pm

Previously only leftists dealt in fantasy history to protect theoretical feelings of minority groups. It’s extremely indicative of the total collapse of conservativism in this country that any of this would be controversial.

Despite decades of crushing immigration from anywhere but Britain, Australia is still nearly 80% British ancestry. Apparently this is a Very Shameful Thing to 2022 “conservatives”, who now sound identical to smug 2012 era university students on matters of nation and demographics. “You didn’t build that”, “ugh you mean you’re proud of your racist religious bigot ancestors? You loser!”.

Mark these words: within ten years many people here will be for moving Australia day and will attack defenders who appeal to the reason for its date as being important.

Baba
Baba
January 17, 2022 10:56 pm

Twostix reminds people that they willingly allowed government agents to inject them with ineffective shit with unknown consequences and they go absolutely apeshit.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 10:56 pm

How crook pete m?
On a scale of 1 – 10.
.1 being mild (say, something like childbirth for example); and
.10 being severe (eg man flu).

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 17, 2022 10:56 pm

Let’s review Scotty’s Covid performance
JobKeeper [okay, that was a rort]
JobSeeker kept a roof over peoples heads and food in the fridge
he hasn’t Mandated Jabbery, unlike Albanese who never had a dad and hates old people
We’ll bury you Gratis if you die from the Jab [say 1 in 1,000 chance read the fine print]
and they’ll pay you $600K + DSP + Carers allowance for all the family
if you have a serious reaction to the PoisonShot [i’d say a 1 in 6 chance]
And he booted Joker!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 10:59 pm

Interesting that, in Greta World, waves of immigration have to be seen as competitive, rather than all being contributory.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2022 11:02 pm

‘a Very Shameful Thing’

Scope creep, and transparent at that.

The only Shameful Thing was your use of your own ancestors as pedestals to try and advance a personal disagreement with another poster.

rosie
rosie
January 17, 2022 11:02 pm

I found them

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

If this parochial, pineapple flag-waving shit continues I’m going to start talking about one of Quenthland’s once-favourite pastimes.

Blackbirding. Maybe the folk that started that ‘knew a little more.’

Blackbirding was a bad thing, terrible thing.
Makes one wonder why when it came time for repatriation, so many proved quite unwilling to go & had to be repatriated by force.

rosie
rosie
January 17, 2022 11:04 pm

Reminds me of numbers writing to the ceo of Ford and introducing himself as the son of a world war two veteran.

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2022 11:05 pm

Mark these words: within ten years many people here will be for moving Australia day and will attack defenders who appeal to the reason for its date as being important.

I never liked Australia Day, I would prefer 3 December.

I prefer the old name and I can’t stand stuff like AOTY.

However, I would not take away something everyone else seems to like, but I think its cringe.

I wonder if the day before was not chosen, because the RN and Marines were toasting Robbie Burns’ Night?

Of course it’s an important day.

“no slavery in a free land, and consequently no slaves”

I believe we did have slaves (blackbirding, some “protection” of aborigines was dubious as well as white child slaves on the first fleet [I regard them differently than the genuine adult criminals on the fleet who served penal labour]), but we never had full blown slavery; ex convicts could integrate and be successful – also Aborigines integrated into white society early on in Sydney.

Baba
Baba
January 17, 2022 11:05 pm

rather than all being contributory.

But that’s enough about the Bekaa Valley hillbillies.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 17, 2022 11:07 pm

pete m makes a good point.

Perhaps the stampeding for tests is partially driven by a desire to minimise isolation times should they show up coof-positive, given that they’d be on the couch for two days or so in any event.

Never had a test of any type, so I don’t know.

vlad redux
vlad redux
January 17, 2022 11:07 pm

we never had full blown slavery

Watch a TV show like Roots, where human beings are put on the auction block and anyone with the money for it can buy them, including Lorne Greene. That never happened here; the end.

JC
JC
January 17, 2022 11:10 pm

Stix

Until recently you doing a sad imitation of Greta thumbnail. When that wasn’t enough, you upped the ante, hurtling towards sounding like the Rwandan radio commenter encouraging his tribe to go kill tutsie or in your case older folk.

That kind of didn’t work too tell, did it? You were mocked pretty badly causing you to stop going after older folk.

Still trying to get leg up, you go for ancestor worship as though that’s going to grant you leverage. Sadly for you, this isn’t going to give you much standing because just as no one really gives much of a shit about aboriginals primitively worshiping their ancestors not many people are going to give much of a shit about what your clamoring for now.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 17, 2022 11:10 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:
January 17, 2022 at 11:03 pm
Blackbirding was a bad thing, terrible thing.
Makes one wonder why when it came time for repatriation, so many proved quite unwilling to go & had to be repatriated by force.

When I was in Qld primary school (state) from 1959, in between learning such classic songs as “Little Black Sambo “, we were taught the reason for “blackbirding” was that the Aborigines were too lazy to work and were useless as slaves/hired help so other natives were sourced from the islands.

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2022 11:11 pm

What’s the point?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-15/lachlan-macquarie-was-slave-owner-time-to-update-history-books/100573218

It’s like people pointing out the worst behaviour by Aborigines. Yes that happened, but you’re really just finding a reason to “bash” someone on paper.

What the ABC miss is we didn’t fight to keep slaves. Nor did they mention that slavery was banned in semi democratic, aristocrat dominated Britain because of Parliament being a free speech, law making body where a white Christian preacher lobbied for the end of slavery.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

we never had full blown slavery

y’mean Australia never had chattel slavery.
It was so tedious last year (or was it the year before) when the wankocracy started into Scomo (it was all his doing) over how Australia had been built on slavery, blah blah blah.

IIRC it was racist slavery they were hounding him over, thus convict labour didn’t really get a run.

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2022 11:12 pm

we never had full blown slavery

Watch a TV show like Roots, where human beings are put on the auction block and anyone with the money for it can buy them, including Lorne Greene. That never happened here; the end.

Did I not just say the same thing?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 11:14 pm

Perhaps the stampeding for tests is partially driven by a desire to minimise isolation times

I did it before Christmas.
Went to a party.
Didn’t drink much but woke up with cold symptoms next day.
Figured that if I got tested that day and everyone had to isolate it would be done before Christmas but if I waited a few days I could fuck up a number of family Christmases.
I am sure people are juggling tests with one eye on what is coming up.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 17, 2022 11:14 pm

I would set fire to my cash before I gave a cracker to Oxfam.

Old age, and a liking for strong drink may have dulled my memory, but wasn’t there a certain member of the “Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance” – one Tarneen Onus – Williams – speaker of the immortal words “Fuck Australia, I hope it burns to the ground” also a “project officer” of some sort, at Oxfam?

I seem to remember that that was when I stopped donating to Oxfam.

Dot
Dot
January 17, 2022 11:14 pm

I think children under the age of criminal responsibility being used in penal labour is in fact, chattel slavery, but perpetrated by the state.

The harshness of his conditions meant he could not live long enough to win back his liberty.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 11:16 pm

we were taught the reason for “blackbirding” was that the Aborigines were too lazy to work and were useless as slaves/hired help so other natives were sourced from the islands.

The fact that white Queenssslanders were also fat, dumb and happy never got a mention?

cohenite
January 17, 2022 11:16 pm

All together now … 1. 2. 3.
GET FUCKED BARNABY!

That’s rude. The only way to approach politics is not by absolutes as in some ideal standard but in relative terms; and to put it in terms of disease the LNP are a dose of the clap while the liars and filth are the bubonic plague.

Anyway, Mrs Beetrooter seems a nice stick and she certainly pulled out all the stops to snare the poor dope.

JC
JC
January 17, 2022 11:17 pm

Perhaps the stampeding for tests is partially driven by a desire to minimise isolation times

I mentioned the order day we have a friend who just went through brain surgery to remove a tumor. We’re seeing them on Wednesday, but wifey wants me to buy two tests from the Greek cafe owner selling them at 25 bucks a pop.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 11:17 pm

Tony.
The Cash Restrictions Bill?
Did you raise that?
Or was it someone else?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Fat Tony, my primary education taught that Blackbirding was because white men (a) weren’t numerous enough, and (b) couldn’t take hard yakka in the heat the way Kanakas could, and (c) evil sea captains pushed the envelope regards the numbers imported, for reasons of price gouging & personal profit.
Aboriginals never got a mention.

From what we were taught, there’d have been one helluva strong deceptive recruiting case against the sea captains.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 11:20 pm

wifey wants me to buy two tests from the Greek cafe owner selling them at 25 bucks a pop.

You know someone selling negative tests?
Can I get one?

John H.
John H.
January 17, 2022 11:21 pm

rosiesays:
January 17, 2022 at 10:52 pm
Nice work John.
I get asked where I’m from all the time atm ?
Do you have more blog posts btw?

Thanks Rosie. Haven’t used that old blog for years but if you look on the left hand side you’ll see some recent posts. I hope to start posting more to help brush up on my writing and thinking.

http://healthycuriousity.blogspot.com/

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 17, 2022 11:21 pm

Jesus, cohenite.
An advisory before the link wouldn’t go astray.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 17, 2022 11:24 pm

I’d like to know the real numbers of covid “from” instead of “with” (we all know they’re utterly unreliable as is)

The Italians recently admitted only 9% of the ‘withs’ were ‘froms’, and USA now admitting about 50%

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 17, 2022 11:27 pm

Watch a TV show like Roots, where human beings are put on the auction block and anyone with the money for it can buy them, including Lorne Greene.

Roots was a fabrication from beginning to end, total Leftist Propaganda.
Alex Haley was a bullshitter and a grifter.
Fat Tony:
I remember Social Studies at Primary School, Kanakas and comparisons with Aborigines weren’t part of that Curriculum.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 17, 2022 11:27 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:
January 17, 2022 at 11:19 pm

It’s what we were taught many years ago – but you’re correct – I’m sure heat got a mention too, but can’t remember anything about avaricious sea captains…

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
January 17, 2022 11:28 pm

Tell us, in your own words, about the marvelous contribution to Colonial Australia that the … Afghanis … made.

The Battle of Broken Hill

On the 1st of January 1915, two men shot dead four people and wounded seven more, before being killed by the Police and Army.

While the attack was apparently politically inspired, as the attackers confessed in notes they left behind, it appears they were not involved in any organised group or militia*. Turkey was one of the Central Powers Australia and its Allies were at war with. It was speculated that the two men were Turkish. Later they were identified as Muslims from what is now modern day Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The attackers both former cameleers working at Broken Hill, they were Badsha Mohammed Gool, an ice-cream vendor and Mullah Abdullah, a local imam and halal butcher.

* They were peddling the lone wolf story back then too.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 17, 2022 11:30 pm

Ed Case says:
January 17, 2022 at 11:27 pm
Fat Tony:
I remember Social Studies at Primary School, Kanakas and comparisons with Aborigines weren’t part of that Curriculum.

I was in Grade 1 in 1959 – primary schools were Dalby, Roma & Toowoomba. It definitely was part of the Qld State School syllabus in those days.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
January 17, 2022 11:30 pm

My dad used to make me mow the lawn for nothing.

#australiatheslavestate

JC
JC
January 17, 2022 11:32 pm

Duk

The Italians recently admitted only 9% of the ‘withs’ were ‘froms’, and USA now admitting about 50%

Duk , how would that work from the point of view of a doc signing off on a death certificate, because what you’re implying is that they’re recanting their first signature? Sorry, but I’m not buying that American doc essentially lied on 50% death certificates since covid and now admitting they did. Not only is that highly unethical but also criminally fraudulent. Are they going to plead gulity?

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 17, 2022 11:34 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
January 17, 2022 at 11:17 pm
Tony.
The Cash Restrictions Bill?
Did you raise that?
Or was it someone else?

Sancho Panzer / Professor Higgins / Leigh Lowe

You are a total fuckwit – a 20-something Arts student who loves playing with words.
No doubt you will keep putting shit on twostix and anyone else you can as long as you can.

This is the last time I will respond to your sophistry – just fuck off and take your socks with you.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 17, 2022 11:34 pm

My dad used to make me mow the lawn for nothing.

#australiatheslavestate

My (late) dad paid me a dollar an acre for “picking up and burning” in 1972.

I never discovered the concept of “exploited labor” for five years after that..

Chris
Chris
January 17, 2022 11:36 pm

Time to work toward fixing it, or piss off and shut up if you don’t like it.

Johanna wins another internet today.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 17, 2022 11:37 pm

On the 1st of January 1915, two men shot dead four people and wounded seven more, before being killed by the Police and Army.

You can still see the Silverton Tramway Company locomotive that was pulling the picnic train at the National Railway Museum in Adelaide.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 17, 2022 11:38 pm

Nor did they mention that slavery was banned in semi democratic, aristocrat dominated Britain because of Parliament being a free speech, law making body where a white Christian preacher lobbied for the end of slavery.

Totally wrong, Dot.
Rev. Wilberforce was accurately considered a grifter and a charlatan by the general public.
In 1837, Parliament voted to reimburse Slave Owners for loss of their property, borrowing about 37 million Pounds from French Banks.
The Debt was only paid out in 2015.
Boris Johnson is a beneficiary of that money, gets a cheque every 3 months.
So much for Wilberforce.

Chris
Chris
January 17, 2022 11:38 pm

My (late) dad paid me a dollar an acre for “picking up and burning” in 1972.

I never discovered the concept of “exploited labor” for five years after that..

Mmm. And yer tell that to the young folks these days and they doooon’t give a fuck.

Chris
Chris
January 17, 2022 11:45 pm

I got a laugh on a Facebook comment just now. Someone I hardly follow ’cause he posts in German made a Monty Python line IN GERMAN!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 17, 2022 11:48 pm

Mmm. And yer tell that to the young folks these days and they doooon’t give a fuck.

You get the slightly pained look “What else happened in the Middle Ages?”

Cue the four jolly Yorkshiremen, “Used to live in hole in middle of the road, we did.”

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 17, 2022 11:51 pm

Duk , how would that work from the point of view of a doc signing off on a death certificate, because what you’re implying is that they’re recanting their first signature? Sorry, but I’m not buying that American doc essentially lied on 50% death certificates since covid and now admitting they did. Not only is that highly unethical but also criminally fraudulent. Are they going to plead gulity?

Various jurisdictions issued instructions that ANY person who died with a PCR+ be recorded as a COVID death (ie OF COVID) – the famous knee on the throat man (George Floyd) is one such example. Subsequent analysis has shown that many such ‘died ofs’ had no evidence at all that the PCR+ was the cause of death. Fauci himself is now admitting that many of the US cases who get admitted to hospital ‘with’ COVID did not infact get admitted because of COVID … methinks this is part of the narrative shift now under way to ‘living with’ not ‘hiding from’ COVID.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 17, 2022 11:53 pm

Rev. Wilberforce was accurately considered a grifter and a charlatan by the general public.

C’mon, Grigs.

Pony up your proof.

Or let it be forever accurately known that you are the grifter and the charlatan. As confirmed by we general public.

Jorge
Jorge
January 17, 2022 11:53 pm

The other view.

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The purpose of this site is educational, except for a few exceptions, everyone listed on this site was/is an anti-vaxxer activist who helped spread COVID-19 misinformation on social media. Share to stop others from making the same mistake. GET VACCINATED!

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Baba
Baba
January 17, 2022 11:55 pm

methinks this is part of the narrative shift now under way to ‘living with’ not ‘hiding from’ COVID.

Also Biden promised to “shut down” covid.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 18, 2022 12:35 am

I was in Grade 1 in 1959 – primary schools were Dalby, Roma & Toowoomba. It definitely was part of the Qld State School syllabus in those days.

You and I would have been in primary school at the same time – myself in Western Australia.

One of the schoolteachers there was a leading light in the anti Vietnam war movement, in 1966. Class was enlivened, one day, when the father of one of the soldiers who had just been killed there, walked into class, and smashed the teacher into the next postcode, with one punch.

Said schoolteacher went thundering down to the local police station to make a complaint. The sergeant leaned over the counter, and told the schoolteacher that the junior constable would be happy to take his statement, sometime the year after next…”All these medals? North Africa, New Guinea and the Islands…”

MatrixTransform
January 18, 2022 12:39 am

and not 20 minutes ago I finished writing up this rant

thanks John H
interesting blog.
I liked your one on Irrational Symbolism

Dot
Dot
January 18, 2022 12:42 am

GET VACCINATED!

This puts me off getting vaccinated.

My preference is for a ethically made vaccine with the best safety and efficacy, and I’d like to say “not as long as it is mandated”.

I have made no mistakes.

“Dead from COVID”

That’s right. Sometimes people die from colds. It has been happening since we were a new species.

Dot
Dot
January 18, 2022 12:44 am

What’s next?

“Sorry pro vaxxie dead from adverse effects”

Who funds that website?

MatrixTransform
January 18, 2022 12:53 am

Covid update for those in the cheap seats.

I spoke on the phone today with somebody just back from Brazil.
Don’t ask me how she came and went. She’s a scientism who is a Maggot Wrangler so maybe she can get favours … I dunno

But she’s back at work and has the Covid
working from home
Still not dead yet either

Did not ask if Vaxxed (bet she would be, I know the work environment)
Didn’t ask if she got it there or here

it’s getting around

John H.
John H.
January 18, 2022 1:48 am

MatrixTransformsays:
January 18, 2022 at 12:39 am
and not 20 minutes ago I finished writing up this rant

thanks John H
interesting blog.
I liked your one on Irrational Symbolism

Appreciate your response M.T. The symbolism thing gets my goat. Far too much time wasted on those issues when there are so many practical things that need to be done.

Pogria
Pogria
January 18, 2022 2:30 am

Oh my!!!

Don’t look if you have a delicate constitution.

Tom
Tom
January 18, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
January 18, 2022 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
January 18, 2022 4:17 am
rosie
rosie
January 18, 2022 4:38 am
calli
calli
January 18, 2022 6:30 am

JC says:
January 17, 2022 at 9:49 pm
Calli

Tell us what you think stix means.

He’s more than capable of expanding on his original comment, but my takeaway was something that we’d already been discussing.

– people who have either left relatives behind in another country, or have a spouse from another country will find it easier to emigrate there
– people who have strong familial roots here, some stretching back to early settlement will find it more difficult
– newcomers* may not have the same cultural appreciation of Australia
– he doesn’t like being bossed around by Johanna

That’s the nub of it when you take away all the high falutin’ stuff.

* not sure what the cut-off for this is in his mind, you’d have to ask him. I think it’s the weakest part of the argument, because it will depend on individual circumstances.

And all of this is borne out by comments on this thread and many preceding ones. If you dig a little or people are happy to tell you, you find that this applies to their intentions on whether to leave or stay. Then there are ones I would call “citizens of the world” like you with your pied a terre in NYC and Lizzie with her English husband, both happy to leave these shores either permanently or until things settle down.

rickw
rickw
January 18, 2022 6:39 am

A ninety minute gun battle ensued with armed civilians joining the Police, Militia and Army.

I think the civilians had this shit covered.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 6:41 am

Russell Brand’s anti establishment bits are getting funnier & funnier.
Which is why he must be on the edge of being deplatformed.
The cathedral hate being the object of ridicule.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vshpyaAvfXs

rickw
rickw
January 18, 2022 6:58 am

Today is my first official day of unemployment. Have never been unemployed before. Thanks to the Australian Government for making this possible….

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 7:00 am

rickw, Dan Andrews will be around to drop off your weed & playstation shortly.

sfw
sfw
January 18, 2022 7:01 am

Rosie “I’ve just finished No Orchids for Miss Blandish.” Orwell reviewed that book and wrote an essay on crime fiction using it as an example, well worth reading. I’m amazed that it’s still in print.

BoN get Orwells books from the library and give them a go, I’m not keen on detective fiction and his tories are pretty good. What I love about him is his descriptions of the bush and its people up the 50’s, nobody has described them better, no one. He paints a lost slightly idyllic world, long gone but I’d love to have lived there (if they had modern dentistry and antibiotics).

calli
calli
January 18, 2022 7:03 am

RussellBrand has been a revelation. That was very funny, but cut to the bone.

Poor, little old science, cowering in the corner, being mugged by science.

On another note, what the hell is he wearing? It looks like an ancient Jenny Kee knitted kimono. Eek!

calli
calli
January 18, 2022 7:06 am

Have never been unemployed before.

Won’t stay like that for long. You’ve just stepped off the treadmill for a short while. Use the down time fruitfully and enjoy it.

rosie
rosie
January 18, 2022 7:07 am

James Hadley Chase still a popular author, and various books are still in print but
I actually read it on project gutenberg
Just about finished Jack o’ judgement by Edgar Wallace on the same site.
Pleases me because a lot of modern fiction just has to be woke which I find irksome.
I wonder if the Orwell essay is online. Shall have a look.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 18, 2022 7:08 am

Here she is:

https://www.australianprogress.org.au/fellows/people/tarneen-onuswilliams

Check the photo. Or not, perhaps.

bespoke
bespoke
January 18, 2022 7:09 am

rickwsays:
January 18, 2022 at 6:58 am

I’ll be joining you shortly but only slightly related reasons, It sucks!.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 18, 2022 7:09 am

Sorry about that rickw.
I’m very lucky as farmer not to be touched by the compulsion element of vaccines.
Ag businesses ignore QR checks and masks as well.
One of our local farmers who is in the younger set & unvaxed rang my brother when a fire call came out to ask if he was allowed on the fire truck, my brother said “just as long as you’re not black” (joke).
That’s the attitude of farmers to this shit.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 18, 2022 7:14 am

‘my first official day of unemployment’

Another intangible result as far as the permanently employed and entitled political class are concerned, but a very tangible result indeed for the people our betters are supposed to serve.

A state of affairs that is both unnecessary and shit in equal measure, rickw.

sfw
sfw
January 18, 2022 7:14 am

Rosie, here you go

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/raffles-and-miss-blandish/

Take the time to read Orwells essays and letters when you have the time, well worth reading, much better than his overated novels.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 7:15 am

On another note, what the hell is he wearing?

Damn beatnik hippies.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 18, 2022 7:16 am

World shivers in the dark as Biden’s light on the hill fades

ADAM CREIGHTON

“Maybe a press conference soon, Mr President?” a journalist asked Joe Biden last week following a humiliating press briefing. “We look forward to that.”

“Me too,” Biden trailed off, after looking to his advisers for guidance then resting his head on his clasped hands and staring at the table as reporters shouted to get his attention.

In the entire time in office, the President’s minders have permitted him only one solo White House press conference.

You have to feel a bit sorry for Biden. It was human nature for a politician to want the biggest prize in the land, but his presidency risks becoming a disaster as he approaches one year in the White House – a disaster not only for him and ruling Democrats, but the rest of the world, too.

His own party is openly canvassing names to replace him in 2024, despite Biden’s stated intention to run again.

He must hope last week was the nadir of his presidency.

Inflation hit 7 per cent, a near 40-year record, after officials had repeatedly said it would be “transitory”.

Covid-19 infections soared to a new daily record of more than 1.35 million, making a mockery of the President’s repeated promise to “shut down the virus”.

The Supreme Court overruled his vaccine mandate for 84 million private sector workers, the centrepiece of his Covid-19 policy.

Biden’s approval rating collapsed to 33 per cent in a major national poll, even lower than Donald Trump’s was at the same point in the electoral cycle.

And perhaps most damaging of all, his landmark speech on “voting rights” reform in Atlanta, designed to persuade reluctant Democrats to tear up longstanding Senate rules, was panned even by his own side as aggressive and stupid. Tulsi Gabbard, a candidate in the Democrat primaries in 2020, said the President had called his opponents “domestic enemies, traitors and racists”. Biden must envy Boris Johnson, caught up in a backyard party scandal.

CNN, a news network not known for an anti-Democrat bias, ran an article asking if the Biden presidency was “doomed”. At least the answer was “no”, offering up Ronald Reagan’s unpopularity in the early 1980s, when the US economy was being battered by stagflation as the new president slashed welfare programs.

This offers false hope. Biden as President signed into law the biggest cash giveaway in history, showering $US1400 cheques on every American earning less than $US75,000 a year.

The jobless rate is less than 4 per cent, around half the level under Reagan, to whom the media were far less well disposed.

But it’s worse. Biden at 79 is older at the start of his presidency than Reagan was at the end.

The President gave a rousing, fluent speech on January 6, marking the anniversary of the Capitol riots. But it was an aberration.

The President’s apparent mental decline has become obvious – and sad, as anyone who has watched parents or grandparents in decline well knows. Trump and Reagan, whatever their other flaws, were models of lucidity by comparison.

Biden inexplicably yelled at reporters last week, a repeat of an outburst in Europe in June last year where he snapped weirdly at a reporter following a joint press conference with Vladimir Putin.

Even if Biden’s performances have been misinterpreted – only the President’s doctors know – the spectacle undermines confidence in the US, and raise questions about who is really calling the shots in the White House.

Almost three dozen Democrat members of congress called on the President to give up the codes to launch nuclear weapons in February last year, a few weeks after Biden entered the White House. A coincidence, perhaps, but a reminder of the dangers to the rest of the world of having a president well past his prime.

more here in the Oz….

Biden is scheduled to give his second solo White House press conference on Wednesday. If he’s not mentally up to the job of answering questions across a broad range of subjects on the spot more than twice a year he might not be up to the job.

Three years is a long time in politics.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 7:19 am

When I was doing the HSC our “careers advisor” made sure we all applied for unemployment benefits.
It was actually a pretty cool loop hole at the time because you got a PBS card plus a travel concession card that didn’t die until June the following year.
No big deal if you went to uni because you got them anyway.
But the guys who got jobs loved having 7ish months of living large on the taxpayer.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 7:24 am

Who is going to be the Albert Speer of COVID?
That is, be deep in the belly of the beast, a decision maker, making money hand over fist but when accountability comes knocking they re-brand & say they had nothing to do with…you know…all the unpleasantness.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 7:25 am

And the uni ones didn’t kick in until mid late January when you enrolled.

Vicki
Vicki
January 18, 2022 7:31 am

Farmer Gez

Re RFS – sadly that is not the experience in our local brigade which is following the official guidelines re vaccination. It has led to the resignation to one of our most experienced members who refused to be vaccinated.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 18, 2022 7:35 am

Pom chicky animal welfare activist dies in Tonga after being swept away by the tsunami while trying to save some dogs.

Dogs in Tonga are like rabbits here. Millions of them, commonly eaten as a staple.

Regardless of the cause to which she devoted her life, at least in death her existence had purpose.

Oh wait.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 18, 2022 7:37 am

Out and about today. Family time approaching (but not at) its end.

rosie
rosie
January 18, 2022 7:37 am

I read it thanks sfw
Am halfway through Homage to Catalonia and I’ve read down and out, a long time ago.
The gutenberg must be an expurgated version because Eddie didn’t get the full torture job, and a few other violent scenes were missing too, the attacks on Miss Blandish were implied. Funny I didn’t see her suicide as because she couldn’t live without slim, but because she could never go back to what she was before, and her father wouldn’t accept what she had experienced, though it was obvious the intended she should suicide when he had both her father and Fenner say she’d be better off dead.

rosie
rosie
January 18, 2022 7:39 am

Very sorry Rickw, I hope this madness ends soon, most especially for people in your situation.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 18, 2022 7:43 am
Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 18, 2022 7:46 am

Vicki says:
January 18, 2022 at 7:31 am
Farmer Gez

Re RFS – sadly that is not the experience in our local brigade which is following the official guidelines

I know those types Vicki.
My father always said that the first to arrive at the shed should be drafted off and kept away from fires.

Indolent
Indolent
January 18, 2022 7:46 am

I’m so glad Rosie had a great time in Italy.

When being unvaccinated means being locked out of public life

Pogria
Pogria
January 18, 2022 7:56 am

Indolent,
Ronco is an extremely brave man. Thank you for the link.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 18, 2022 8:03 am

Today is my first official day of unemployment. Have never been unemployed before. Thanks to the Australian Government for making this possible….

Aaaaaahaaaaaa! rickw is unmasked as the Djoker!

PS …. Welcome aboard!

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 18, 2022 8:05 am

My latest act of revolution just uploaded….

https://odysee.com/@SouthAustraliaInFocus:9/SAIF18:7

miltonf
miltonf
January 18, 2022 8:10 am

I’m still nonplussed as the why as to why the ‘rats parachuted the foul old Biden into the Whitehouse- I thought a wimmin or a wimmim of color would be more in tune with their divisive sophistry. How many votes any of their despicable candidates would get is irrelevant- just tune the ballot stuffing.

Cassie of Sydney
January 18, 2022 8:11 am

Just in from GBNews, Nigel Farage commenting on Australia and the Netherlands….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK7pa7qN-fI

Re. the Netherlands, the Dutch have had enough. Over the weekend there were huge protests in the Netherlands. In Dutch cities, dozens of bars, cafes, clubs and restaurants ignored the government’s closure edicts and people turned up to drink, eat and enjoy and the police didn’t enforce the closure edicts.

miltonf
miltonf
January 18, 2022 8:12 am

Yep people just have to start ignoring these capricious commands.

Leon L.
Leon L.
January 18, 2022 8:14 am

Study, Fourth Shot of COVID Vaccine Ineffective at Preventing Omicron Infection.

From the treehouse.
Just keep on vaccinating. Cause .. the science.

miltonf
miltonf
January 18, 2022 8:15 am

A leftie train driver said to me in 1992 that the lieborals were just stooges of the multinationals- looks like he was right.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 18, 2022 8:24 am

Bad things happen in Furniture Stores, JC.
You know that.

Cassie of Sydney
January 18, 2022 8:25 am

Katie Hopkins’ wrap on the British Muslim gunman who took four Jews hostage in a synagogue and the FBI, Twitter progressives et al are all insisting that had nothing to do with Jews and Judaism and that we must be mindful of white supremacy and Islamophobia.

Katie Hopkins: The Synagogue Siege. Who to believe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZUrh080f4M

It’s a real riddle!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 18, 2022 8:32 am

police didn’t enforce the closure edicts.

When you’ve lost even your enforcers, you are not going to go very much further…

Cassie of Sydney
January 18, 2022 8:33 am

Malik Faisal Akram – a very appropriate name for a white supremacist.

LOL

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 18, 2022 8:34 am

Indeed, Cassie.

Because only white supremacists and garage nastis do bad things these days…

miltonf
miltonf
January 18, 2022 8:38 am

Biden was put in the Whitehouse to trash the US in everyway possible with a view to making it irreversible. Trump gave Biden’s backers a real fright.

JC
JC
January 18, 2022 8:43 am

Various jurisdictions issued instructions that ANY person who died with a PCR+ be recorded as a COVID death (ie OF COVID) – the famous knee on the throat man (George Floyd) is one such example.

Duk, are you sleep walking? Floyd is not an example of your assertion. A cop received 20 years for murdering Floyd. His death certificate DID not say he died of covid otherwise the cop wouldn’t be doing time. Please!

If there are a group of medical doctors who are relatively independent minded and for the most part don’t take shit it would be American docs. You’re picking the wrong group.

mIn
mIn
January 18, 2022 8:48 am

Re Tongan tsunami I was surprised to hear of the volcano there as I had heard of an expected tsunami along the east coast of Australia some years ago . Just after an earthquake in Italy I met Ronnie Burns who had been making a documentary on Prophets and Prophecies . A tsunami had been predicted in the Adriatic after the earthquake by a clairvoyant and Ronnie told me that “ “three third eyes ” had seen a tsunami along the east coast of OZ a couple of weeks after trouble in Middle East . It would be caused by underwater volcanoes between here and NZ . Trouble then was India and Pakistani and their nuclear weapons but no volcanoes in the area . However months later a string of underwater volcanoes between here and NZ was discovered and was reported in The Age.
Ronnie Burns believed the prophecy and moved to Cradle Mountain.
There is a legend in Aboriginal memory that there was a big wave along the coast . This is supported by geological research. So our tsunami is still to come.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 18, 2022 8:49 am

Duk, are you sleep walking? Floyd is not an example of your assertion. A cop received 20 years for murdering Floyd. His death certificate DID not say he died of covid otherwise the cop wouldn’t be doing time. Please!

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/04/869278494/medical-examiners-autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-had-positive-test-for-coronavirus

JC …. at some point you might notice that I can back up EVERYTHING I say here

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 8:52 am

John Hinckley is starting a band.
Good to see him back on his feet.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 18, 2022 8:53 am

It’s a real riddle!

AAP deleting their accurate quoting of the FBI’s ‘Nothing to do with Jews’
was the icing on the cake.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 8:55 am

Jeebers, they’ve given Biden the good needle today.
He’s full of pep.
They mustn’t be able to give him the good stuff too much.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 8:58 am

lotocoti, even better is the FBI saying happy MLK day but not saying anything about their history with the chap.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 18, 2022 8:59 am

Biden is scheduled to give his second solo White House press conference on Wednesday.

The bloke who made Max Headroom must be waiting until he estimates the White House is desperate before offering his services to maximise what he can charge them.

Doesn’t matter that Max Headroom is from the 80’s. I think Biden is still there.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 8:59 am

Also, fat guts General Milley has COVID.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 18, 2022 9:03 am

A cop received 20 years for murdering Floyd. His death certificate DID not say he died of covid otherwise the cop wouldn’t be doing time.

The US “criminal justice system” at its best. It is right there in the name.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 18, 2022 9:03 am

Max Headroom.

A titan of his, or any time.

JC
JC
January 18, 2022 9:03 am

Calli, thanks for your response. Gene appreciation or valor theft sometimes shows up here and it’s the last hiding place of the scoundrel. Without naming names, there are those who steal their father’s military valor and pretend it’s theirs. Others, like Stix suggest that because their great great grand pappy came here (likely under duress) 150 years ago, they somehow have more claim to ownerhsip of this “fair land”. Bullshit they do. Their ownership extends as far out as the boundary of their property line and the chattels they possess. That’s how our system works here.

I don’t quite understand Stix’s problem with what Johanna said because if anything her comment the other evening tended to agree with his in that people don’t seem to realize just how good it is here for average people. It’s the best place in the world without a doubt.

Look, stix wore out his comedy routine after years and years of abusing older generations. It got to the point where it would be impossible for contrast his comments with Greta Thumbnail. It also veered towards resembling the Rwandan dude who encouraged the Rwandan massacre. Those aren’t the only examples. Stalin’s mass murder committed against the peasants (Kulaks) fits in perfectly too. Stix has taken up against a group and freely waves hate towards them.

Embarrassed, he’s now removed his great, great grand pappy out of his grave and swings the remains around to suggest he’s (stix) somehow special. He’s not. He’s just a miserable younger dude with lots of issues who thinks older people stole his claim to a better life he believes he deserves.

JC
JC
January 18, 2022 9:09 am

JC …. at some point you might notice that I can back up EVERYTHING I say here

Duk, you can’t back up your argument using Floyd because Floyd’s death certificate would have said he died due to asphyxiation due to the cop manhandling him.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 18, 2022 9:10 am

JC …. at some point you might notice that I can back up EVERYTHING I say here

Except that does not.
Autopsies contain toxicology and all manner of other pathology results.
This does not mean they were the cause of death or recorded as such.
JFK’s autopsy recorded high-ish levels of pain-killers in his system.
Are you suggesting his cause of death was recorded as “drug overdose”?

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 18, 2022 9:11 am

Forget wind powered cargo ships.
The future is electric.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 18, 2022 9:11 am

Rex Angersays:
January 18, 2022 at 8:34 am
Indeed, Cassie.

Because only white supremacists and garage nastis do bad things these days…

When the garage nasti’s go out do they take along a metal garage so the spooks(sound eerie music) can identify them or do they have to hastily build a block garage coz its quicker than brick? Seems to me its the only way ASIO could identify them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 18, 2022 9:12 am

Snap JC.
Incidental pathology recorded in an autopsy should not be taken as cause of death.
That can be found in the section headed “Cause of Death”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 18, 2022 9:12 am

So our tsunami is still to come.

Min – There’s long been a concern that a major submarine landslide in western NZ could potentially do a big time tsunami here. A submarine landslide on the edge of the Australian continental shelf probably would be as bad, but NZ is on a plate boundary so gets much more tectonic shaking than we do.

Scars left by Australia’s undersea landslides reveal future tsunami potential (2017)

calli
calli
January 18, 2022 9:13 am

JC, when someone is under the pump I find it helpful to take the emotion out of what they say and dig into the bones.

I won’t be emigrating anywhere because this is “home” and has been for many generations. Saying so doesn’t make me a racist. Others, with shallower cultural roots here might find leaving easier.

In practical terms, if your extended family is elsewhere, or like you, they have worked and lived abroad, it makes sense to go there should they wish to leave.

I enjoyed Russell Brand’s advice because in my view he’s right – don’t cut people if at all possible but have sensible, kindly and reasoned conversations with them.

And something he didn’t mention – avoid drink or stress blogging. Thar be dragons! 🙂

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 18, 2022 9:15 am

JC, SP …. this is like trying to spoon feed a toddler..

the point I am making is that, for the last 2 years, we have been mass screening people in a variety of settings using PCRs which produce false + results for COVID. This includes hospital admissions, deaths etc etc etc

Then, once you have ‘COVID +’ on your record, the system calls you a COVID case (or death – if within 28 days) irrespective of why you went to hospital or why you died. I am agreeing with you – I dont think Floyd died of COVID, and I know his death certificate does not say he died OF COVID – but he nevertheless gets added to the count as if he did because that is how many jurisdictions defined a COVID death.

calli
calli
January 18, 2022 9:16 am

I thought Floyd had extremely high levels of Fentanyl, a raft of comorbidities and Covid.

Plus a helpful knee in his back.

Roger
Roger
January 18, 2022 9:23 am
Eyrie
Eyrie
January 18, 2022 9:24 am

The knee had nothing to do with it. The cop was innocent. It was a political stich up.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 18, 2022 9:29 am

miltonf says:
January 18, 2022 at 8:10 am
I’m still nonplussed as the why as to why the ‘rats parachuted the foul old Biden into the Whitehouse

I think part of it was to show that they were so powerful, they could put any POS into the White House, regardless of what the people wanted. And you would be hard pressed to find a more repugnant couple.

Plus the whole purpose is to destroy the USA & allow world dominance by Emperor XI and the CCP (without firing a shot)

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 18, 2022 9:30 am

Branco’s cartoon President has more symbolism than you can normally expect in one frame.
Sippy cup, blood stained hands, teleprompter, and the empty thought cloud are all powerful images in themselves but together tell a powerful story.

bespoke
bespoke
January 18, 2022 9:32 am

don’t cut people if at all possible but have sensible, kindly and reasoned conversations with them.

Good advice but you can’t treat life like “Fifty First Dates”.

miltonf
miltonf
January 18, 2022 9:34 am

And you would be hard pressed to find a more repugnant couple.

too damn right- yes rub people’s noses in them

calli
calli
January 18, 2022 9:36 am

Eyrie, that’s why I separated that “cause of death” in my comment.

Floyd would have been carried off by what was circulating in his bloodstream, sooner rather than later, and probably that very day.

Of course, statistically at the time, he died of Covid. Which he didn’t die of either.

A truly miraculous passing. And one that keeps on giving.

miltonf
miltonf
January 18, 2022 9:36 am

I think the poisonous icing on the turd cake is the pretend doctorate.

JC
JC
January 18, 2022 9:37 am

Shut up Eyrie. That’s irrelevant to the discussion. Stay on point.

calli
calli
January 18, 2022 9:39 am

Good advice but you can’t treat life like “Fifty First Dates”.

Well, no. That’s where the “if at possible” comes in.

If it isn’t possible, and as I have done in the past, you set the dogs on them and hope they get a good bite.

JC
JC
January 18, 2022 9:40 am

Then, once you have ‘COVID +’ on your record, the system calls you a COVID case (or death – if within 28 days) irrespective of why you went to hospital or why you died. I am agreeing with you – I dont think Floyd died of COVID, and I know his death certificate does not say he died OF COVID – but he nevertheless gets added to the count as if he did because that is how many jurisdictions defined a COVID death.

So what’s your point then if you agree with Sanchez and I.

Recording covid being in someone’s system in a fucking pandemic is not nefarious. It’s data collection FFS.

JC
JC
January 18, 2022 9:42 am

Gota go. Talk lates.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 9:43 am

Breaking news, the furniture store is actually run by Robert Kiyosaki.

Rich Dad Poor Dad author Robert Kiyosaki warns investors to prepare for ‘war’

https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/sydney-nsw/rich-dad-poor-dad-author-robert-kiyosaki-warns-investors-to-prepare-for-war/news-story/6e939b335f9380efdceac2508ed7daa0

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 18, 2022 9:43 am

More data that the vaccines are worse than useless, especially against the omicron strain:

Scotland’s Fully Vaccinated Now Twice As Likely To Be Infected And 50% More Likely To Die (17 Jan)

Jo Nova also has a post today with more support for the effectiveness of ivermectin.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 18, 2022 9:45 am

Don’t get me wrong.
The whole “died with/died from” thing is highly problematic and subject to spin.
For both covid and vaccines.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 18, 2022 9:46 am

By all means mount the “died with” argument, but George Floyd isn’t your poster boy for that one.

Dot
Dot
January 18, 2022 9:46 am

Recording covid being in someone’s system in a fucking pandemic is not nefarious. It’s data collection FFS.

It most probably is.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 18, 2022 9:53 am

A young woman is murdered by a random nutter.
You can probably guess the rest.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 18, 2022 9:53 am

JCsays:

January 18, 2022 at 9:03 am

Calli, thanks for your response. Gene appreciation or valor theft sometimes shows up here and it’s the last hiding place of the scoundrel. 

Well said, plus the rest of it.
Borders on Aryan superiority.
Incidentally, I sometimes think the “pureblood” tag has more to it than simply whether there is vax circulating in the veins or not.
And calli at 6:30.
I have to say that left me with the feeling you get when you see a movie and it was nothing like the book.

Roger
Roger
January 18, 2022 9:54 am

A contemporary covid-era primer on Hannah Arendt’s The Origins of Totalitarianism (1948):

“For its establishment and durability totalitarianism depends as a first step on mass support obtained through playing into a sense of permanent crisis and fear in society. This then feeds the urge of the masses to have those in charge constantly take “measures” and show leadership to ward off the threat that has been identified as endangering the whole of society.

…totalitarian movements build on the classical failure of societies throughout human history to create and uphold a sense of community and purpose, instead breeding isolated, self-centered human beings without a clear overarching purpose in life.

The masses following the totalitarian movement are lost themselves and as a result in search of a clear identity and a purpose in life that they do not find in their current circumstances: “Social atomization and extreme individualization preceded the mass movement (..). The chief characteristic of the mass man is not brutality and backwardness, but his isolation and lack of normal social relationships.”

In 2020 and 2021, mostly well-meant yet often ill-advised government-imposed Corona measures such as lockdowns, mask-mandates, entry-requirements to public facilities and Corona vaccine mandates have further massively limited the unimpeded human interaction that any society needs to retain and strengthen its social fabric. All these externally imposed developments contribute from different directions to human beings, especially the young, increasingly and ever more lastingly being deprived of those ‘normal social relationships’ Hannah Arendt speaks of.

Corona political and media narratives are examples of such an ideological totalitarianism that wants to completely control how human beings think, speak and act in that area of life, whist keeping them in perpetual anxiety through well-planned regular dramatic news updates (One tool being used for this successfully throughout the world is the constant well-rehearsed press conferences by grave-looking ministers in suits behind Plexiglas and flanked by experts…). Fear is the main driving force behind keeping this perpetual anxiety and activism going.”

Sorry for the length but I wanted to whet your appetite for a piece that puts many observations expressed on the Cat over the last two years in a larger context. RTWT.

It may seem bleak but there is cause for hope to be found in the conclusion, which reiterates an observation from history I’ve expressed here: totalitarian systems are anti-human and because human life cannot flourish under them as God intended they always collapse under the weight of their own absurdities.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 18, 2022 9:56 am

Where’s Razey?
On a slow boat to Japan?
I miss Razey.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 9:56 am

The whole “died with/died from” thing is highly problematic and subject to spin.
For both covid and vaccines.

Yes.
This.
Unfortunately, it would take a Snowden type to break the whole data aspect open.

calli
calli
January 18, 2022 10:02 am

I have to say that left me with the feeling you get when you see a movie and it was nothing like the book.

Good-oh. You saw it differently.

bespoke
bespoke
January 18, 2022 10:05 am

If it isn’t possible, and as I have done in the past, you set the dogs on them and hope they get a good bite.

Yes I know.

Dot
Dot
January 18, 2022 10:07 am

Sancho Panzersays:
January 18, 2022 at 9:45 am
Don’t get me wrong.
The whole “died with/died from” thing is highly problematic and subject to spin.
For both covid and vaccines.

The government admits 9 deaths from vaccinations.

They purport that there is no misreporting of COVID deaths.

They’re lying.

PS

Why has Novavax been delayed, but approved elsewhere?

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 18, 2022 10:08 am

Recording covid being in someone’s system in a fucking pandemic is not nefarious. It’s data collection FFS.

One last spoon… It IS nefarious to list millions of deaths as being due to COVID, and locking society down for 2 years, when the majority of those deaths were due to something else, and the COVID positive was irrelevant, and YES, that is what they did.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 10:09 am

Glenn Greenwald on another level right now on twitter.
It’s like he’s on a DMT level of enlightenment.

calli
calli
January 18, 2022 10:11 am

That wasn’t quite the look the raskols had as they hopped hastily over the fence, but it’s a nice, happy smile all the same. The dergs enjoyed it too. I could tell.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 10:12 am

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
This is one of the most overlooked facts in US political life: how many millions began paying attention to politics only due to Trump and thus don’t know, or forgot, any history before him.

That’s why they can revere CIA, the Cheneys, MSNBC neocons, not know what Biden is, etc.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 10:12 am

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
This wasn’t by coincidence. A key reason the shitty, corrupt, imperialistic, corporatist DC Swamp was so eager to inflate the fairy tale that Trump was a unique evil was because it rehabilitated all of them and distracted attention from what they do:

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 18, 2022 10:13 am

‘bern at 9:56.
Looking at it objectively, it is problematic, even with the same co-mordities.
If a marginal type 2 diabetic aged 55, with good control of blood sugar and carrying no weight catches Covid and dies, I am ticking that off as a covid death.
If another type 2 diabetic aged 85, morbidly obese and with blood sugar all over the shop catches covid and dies I am putting that in the “Hmmm” column.
But same goes for vaxxes.
Time to stop quoting those “Died within 14 days of vax” stats when some of those were run over by a bus.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 18, 2022 10:13 am

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
The monomaniacal focus on Trump – treating him as the cause of all US evils rather than a symptom, pretending nobody before did what he did – created a sort of magical penance: just oppose Trump and all your past evils are washed away and you’re reborn with a cable contract.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 18, 2022 10:18 am

Calli, re leaving these shores for a while, it is not difficult for us, we have gone for six month periods or longer in the past, but that was when if anything happened to our extended family here a quick plane flight would get me home within 30 hours max. For instance, I came back early from Canada when our young adult daughter had a sudden appendicitis. Even within Australia, the same applied: we lived in Tasmania and Melbourne for a while and ‘getting the bus’ (i.e. Jetstar) to Sydney for any urgent family matter was a doddle for me. Since Covid, all travel has been border-problematic. If we are not in Sydney, can we return?

Currently, Hairy does have close family in Britain, and we have always visited them every two years regularly. Still intend to do so this May, behind in our normal schedule. The issue of returning home is obviously more worrying. But we are prepared to stay away, live in and enjoy Britain, and maintain facetime contact at a distance with family members in Australia, especially grandchildren in Sydney and Brisbane, placing hope that inward-bound travel to Oz will free up a little in 2022.

That said, my daughter is flying down from Brisbane to attend the funeral of a close friend of hers whose child has just died. That’s easy now that restrictions are lifted but the past two years has put so many families into distress re border closures it doesn’t bear thinking on.

My article on love and commitment to one’s marital partner is up on Quadrant Online now; in it you see I take that commitment seriously. So we will go to the UK for May this year and stay there if it is too difficult to get back here after that. When family is scattered choices are never easy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 18, 2022 10:23 am

Dot.
I agree that the “covid deaths” are overstated.
Obviously including people in palliative care on their last legs who caught covid is ridiculous.
See my later examples.
But I also say that the same spin has been applied to vaccines as well.
Dying within 14 days of receiving a vax from impact with a bus is not a vax death.
It is war and truth was the first casualty.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 18, 2022 10:24 am

Aaargh. Broke a front tooth. Gotta go to the dentist NOW.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 18, 2022 10:24 am

I got home from the shops this morning to see a police car (one of the little paddy wagon types) pulling out of the apartment block driveway.

Mine is a sedate suburb, and my building a sedate one too. But a few months ago we had some bogans move in. Among their many peccadillos are such things as chopping wood on their balcony at 10:00 at night for a BBQ, having a woodfire BBQ on the balcony (I would imagine there are rules about burning things within certain distances of housing because of sparks and embers), taking the firehose from the common area, dragging it through their apartment and using it to hose off said balcony – and sending water cascading onto the apartment below, and playing their music loud with all their windows open so everyone else must close theirs.

It is not malice. Just the inability to grasp reasonable behaviour. Out on a big suburban block, with islands of struggling grass being slowly inundated by inexorably spreading expanses of clay, some rusting bikes and such like the crumbling skeletons of dead beasts lying where they broke years ago, a kennel for their two slavering hounds heating like an oven in the sun, flyscreen doors etched with only the faintest memory of their purpose due to idle hands minds like boats stranded on a sandbar thoughtlessly burning holes through the mesh.

While in the garage her scrawny bearded boyfriend tinkers endlessly on a bike that he never rides, and on the patio his lump of a girlfriend moans about the heat with a 1.5L bottle of diet coke and frequent use of her ‘budging stick’.

Anyway – hope they were carted off. I mean, if anyone.

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