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At 12, Jaiswal moved from rural Uttar Pradesh to Mumbai for cricket. He slept in tents and sold pani puri to earn…
It’s not commonly known, but Teslas use Righteous Electrickery (RE), so all is balanced with Gaia. Namaste.
I see scrolling down at his Cricinfo [age that Joe Burns made 108 not out for Italy vs. Romania. Forza…
I don’t really want to type the name into Bing!
Not making excuses for her rosie. The mutual exploitation is obvious.
That’s pretty much the raison d’etre of the AOTY now.
A gobbet of spit in the face of a middle Australia perceived to be racist, sexist and prone to violence.
Yep- cultural marxism. It’s not good to hate but I hate Marx.
I haven’t worn that brand for decades. It was popular in the early 90s.
I’ve never heard of her. Is she Australia’s Greta Funberg?
I’m wondering if the pic of Loren and Mansfield is slightly enhanced?
Or maybe the other times I’ve seen it, I’ve been looking at versions made a tad more modest?
Jayne didn’t need no augmentation.
Seems that newscorp has broken 12? ladder, no longer works on ‘The Australian’ or the ‘Herald Sun’.
There is an extra step to take to get around that.
Go to 12 foot ladder.
https://12ft.io/
Link to the Australian will look like this when clicked on
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=TAWEB_WRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theaustralian.com.au%2Fnation%2Fpolitics%2Fcoronavirus-australia-live-news-omicron-ushers-in-endgame-for-pandemic%2Flive-coverage%2F1c0c3cbb324ba45716d60a1026bce1b9&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=dynamic-warm-control-score&V21spcbehaviour=append
Chop out the first section of the australian link and you end up with
http://www.theaustralian.com.au%2Fnation%2Fpolitics%2Fcoronavirus-australia-live-news-omicron-ushers-in-endgame-for-pandemic%2Flive-coverage%2F1c0c3cbb324ba45716d60a1026bce1b9&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=dynamic-warm-control-score&V21spcbehaviour=append
Stick that in 12 foot and it will work.
St Albo of the immaculata dentata story..
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https://www.theaustralian.com.au%2Fnation%2Fpolitics%2Fcoronavirus-australia-live-news-omicron-ushers-in-endgame-for-pandemic%2Flive-coverage%2F1c0c3cbb324ba45716d60a1026bce1b9&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=dynamic-warm-control-score&V21spcbehaviour=append
PoliticsNow: Albanese to push for federation reform
In other news for Rio Tinto shareholders…..
A couple of days ago Serbian authorities cancelled plans to allow the building of a lithium mine in the country and now, Rio Tinto has cancelled $AU3.3 billion in debt owed by the Mongolian government being the nation’s share of the mine’s development and construction costs. On the plus side, that project can now get underway.
With regard to the Serbian cancellation, the lithium mine’s cost was also about $AU3.3 billion but that ignores the project costs to date. Since about 2011 Rio’s innumerable studies, pre-feasibility then feasibility reports would have cost hundreds of millions. Still, only money I guess.
“The mutual exploitation is obvious.”
Where was the mutual exploitation this morning? She was rude and petulant….even to Jenny Morrison who has never done to her. She played up to the Twitter sewers. Actually she exploited the situation this morning, deliberately stoking and exploiting a photo op to spruik her anger and disdain for Morrison and his government. She’s a grub.
“I’ve never heard of her. Is she Australia’s Greta Funberg?”
Yes…sort of!
Rio should buy a nice lithium carbonate project in Argentina off Galan Resources (GLN). I would be happy with $2 bill purchase price!
Your ignoring my previous comments on the matter just to go on a rant, Cassie.
Where is Ed?
Razey says:
January 25, 2022 at 6:54 pm
Maybe…..do you own that nice bridge in Sydney? The one over the harbour. Could you throw it in for the price?
Hehe, as a small share holder of GLN, I would be happy with that purchase price 😛
I’m shocked, Dover. What is “in” for forty-something gents these days?
Trust me to be three decades behind the times.
Greta Funberg
ha ha very good
Conquest’s 2nd Law.
The prog-left is like a succubus; incapable of building lasting institutions themselves, they lay with and feed off the energy of the institutions of Western culture, eventually leading to the latter’s death.
(Not that AOTY is much of an institution, but it illustrates my point. Established in the ’60s, it was meant to celebrate the achievements of a nascent national culture. Now it only exists to tear the remnants of that culture down.)
Another meja anti hero
up a ladder licking the cornice
Here’s some truth.
If Grace Tame was 100kg and looked like the back of a truck she wouldn’t have got the gig.
Is the female of a cockroach a henroach?
Stuff gave him a couple of Valium and he’s asleep. Shooossh , don’t wake him up.
😀
There’s also oodles of hard rock lithium ore in WA, which a swag of minnows would just lurve a bid for…
I gave up counting after the first million tonnes of contained Li. It’s a lot. Most is processed in China but.
staff… not stuff.
Ok, one for Cats who know about small reptiles.
I was just out the back and saw a gekko chasing a medium size spider up the side of the shed. Gekko was gaining but very near to the eave, the spider jumped upwards to the eave and spun a thread descending towards the ground. Gekko was having none of it and jumped about 10cm horizontally and 40cm vertically after the spider as it was descending on its thread. Gekko got it, and spider and gekko both fell to the ground. I lost sight of them in the ground foliage.
I didn’t know gekkos could/would jump like that. I’ve seen them jump very small distances but never into thin air in pursuit of a meal. The gekko must have been very brave or very hungry (or maybe both).
They’ve been mining lithium at Greenbushes since 1983 – highest quality and largest deposits on Earth.
“bespokesays:
January 25, 2022 at 6:55 pm
Your ignoring my previous comments on the matter just to go on a rant, Cassie.
Where is Ed?”
No, not at all.
“Here’s some truth.
If Grace Tame was 100kg and looked like the back of a truck she wouldn’t have got the gig.”
Quite so.
Yes
No.
He!
You know what? I’ll say it.
Thousands upon thousands of people have been sexually assaulted as children. Yes it is terrible. No it should not have happened. Some victims become so overwrought with demons they can’t escape, and opt out.
But the vast majority get on with their lives, as best they can. Sometimes they report it, sometimes they don’t. Sometimes they just tell family, and sometimes they don’t. But in large part, the victims go on.
There is nothing that the graceless hypocritical victimhood centrepiece Tame has endured that thousands of women in this country alone have not.
She is not special. Morrison is a flog, but he wasn’t responsible for what happened to her in Tasmania decades back – but you would have thought otherwise after today’s juvenile dummy spit.
One last grab for attention, following her publicised engagement* a couple of days ago, at the very end of a reign that wasn’t the 100% adulation all the time she thought it would be. And nor should it be.
Reality TV bit parts beckon, you stupid attention seeker. Not everything revolves around you. Now fuck off.
*The bloke responsible for putting a ring on that finger must be a special sort of doormat.
Correct!
Q: Who was AOTY five years ago, or even three?
A: Nobody gives a fuck.
Deserves what he gets.
I’m not making an odds on prediction, but I’m feeling there’s a small but more than usual chance this could be a war year. The stock market is very unsettled and I’m not sure it’s just about the Fed’s action.
The fraudulent Hiden presidency is going to end up being a total disaster and we could end paying dearly.
A war year against who?
victims and perps across all milieu
the thing that shits me is the politickers
they’re lower than the perps.
vicious arseholes dressed up as virtuous
On the scale of such things that million tonnes of lithium would be enough for about 50 million premium Teslas (with 100 kWh packs). And I suspect that’s the tip of the iceberg WA lithium-wise.
Interesting what you get come up in a search. I didn’t know about this one:
Tesla switching to LFP batteries in all standard-range cars (DDG headline, Oct 2021)
Tesla has been using LiCoO batteries as the most powerful Li-ion ones available. But they’ve gotten stick because of the cobalt-Congo-slave labour linkage. So looks like Elon has decided to accept lower energy density (and cheaper batteries) for the lower end of the model list.
Once the luvvies work out their Teslas are Chinese though it’ll be fun to see their mental gymnastic contortions to justify owning them.
Obama’s comments re Biden have never been more relevant.
Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.
Peter Cosgrove, Fiona Stanley or Fiona Woods were the last AOTY worthy of the title.
It’s really cruel that Biden has gone out of his way to not acknowledge his grandchild (the one from the stripper).
I’m sure because they’re not 100% white has nothing to do with it.
JC
If you were Putin/ Winnie the Xi would you
A: Hedge your bets that America will decline more in the next decade?
B: See Biden in the White House as a once in a lifetime opportunity?
Bugger me, if they could stoke a touch more ‘fiery but peaceful” protests and a bit more domestic strife they would have to be sorely tempted.
Shades of the hitler/stalin pact if they take simultaneous but not joint action…
Lots of working age blokes enjoying a coffee, must be smoko.
Aoty is a national embarrassment.
I’ll vote for whatever party abolishes it.
They can platform as costs x millions, money will be redirected to indigenous health in remote areas.
Who could argue?
Hmmm. Seems Albo could still blow it from here unless da bruvvas can keep a lid on him. Time for Plibbers to step up?
There is always a war somewhere every year. Care to elaborate?
Lithium output needs to quadruple by 2030 (8 years) to have any hope of keeping up with demand.
White Gold!
Grace Tame is uberwoke and refers constantly to her abuse at a private school. Let me make myself clear: that is always bad – very bad – no matter who does it.
But have we heard a peep from her about the evidence that is emerging in the Tasmanian government (for Tame, the Gutwein fascist junta) inquiry into Tasmanian government institutions? The Department of Education engaging in systematic coverups to protect the comrades from the teachers’ union, ignoring and ridiculing complaints, and, in extremis, fobbing off the victim’s family with a zoo pass? Never!
Brucie
As an aside, should you ever again be talking about battery technology, when your expert scientific missive from a few years ago was that battery technology had hit the end of the road? For someone who self identifies as a nobel prize winner that would have to be a biggest wrongology since homer paxton and Skanky ho. Nothing personal.
Calli, I have no idea. I’m more look-orientated. I do like uniqlo, however.
You think I’m referring to tribal warfare in Africa? I’m concerned with Taiwan and Ukraine.
Zulu – Technically they’ve been mining white ceramic industry products since 1983. The spodumene was an overburden they found a use for (tantalum and niobium being the main products, plus a little tin oxide). It was only recently that the lithium in the spodumene became important. Pure spodumene is like a Wedgewood or Royal Doulton toilet, whiter than white, which is fun since it’s basically solidified pegmatite lava.
Knuckle Draggersays:
January 25, 2022 at 7:32 pm”
You’ve said it best.
I give her about five years before this becomes reality.
Now look, I hate Goose Morristeen as much as the next person, but did the silly little bint honestly expect that pulling a stunt like that would make her look like anything other than a stupid vain petulant brat?
Your 15 seconds is over, sweetie. Now sod off.
How long before Biden wheels out the carcass of his dead son & say he knows what it’s like to have family in harms way.
Here’s a question for you, Razey.
If demand by definition equals supply and visa versa why would there be any difficulty with lithium keeping up with demand?
Daily Mail
My (rejected obviously) comment at Teh Paywallian,
Currently batting at around 500 over the past few days.
Oh grate, speaking of roadside wombats, Paul “Fatso” Murray has just blundered onto the telly.
Time for the off switch.
Rabz.
Pre or after Kenworth Wombat?
I’m not suggesting the market wont meet demand, but I do know it takes time and lots of $ to develop mines. At the moment there is a squeeze and lithium carbonate prices have gone from $14k/ton to $56k/ton.
When I lived for a while in Townsville there were hand painted signs saying “God Bless General Cosgrove” nailed onto power poles around town. This was just after he commanded in East Timor. Like Napoleon and Julius Caesar I think his guys would’ve followed him to the ends of the Earth if he ordered it.
That’s my point. Of course the market will meet demand as it can’t be anything else. Demand must equal supply.
Hey Brucie, how’s the Titus 3.10 working out? I notice pattern that when I clip up over some bullshit you’ve posted, your commenting posting speeds up .. nervously so. 🙂
Still the most important part of any TV.
Batteries are limited by electrochemistry. BoN knows about that.
LFP batteries have about half the energy density of Li-ion in W-h/Kg.
Australia Day
Anyone interested?
Megansays:
January 25, 2022 at 10:02 am
You learn strength through adversity. Won’t go into details but I’ve had some in my life like all, I feel I have come out of it a better person and yes dealing with it started as a child when dealing with simply being defeated on a sports field.
This padding of children will be our undoing, especially if a horde united behind a flag comes over the horizon.
You think I’m referring to tribal warfare in Africa? I’m concerned with Taiwan and Ukraine.
I’m sure it is part of the old thief’s brief to feed the Washington War Machine. Taiwan would be problematic for them though seeing the CCP owns them.
Given the craven moral cowardice and ineptitude of the Morrison government I’m frankly surprised they’re not running a small target campaign.
Is Mark Textor now advising them?
So 100 people want item X but only two itams are available.
There are only two people wanting item X .
Correct?
Lithium = Tulips
The only reason lithium is needed in large quantity is for EVs. Not even for baseload grid batteries, sodium sulfur is better for that, and much cheaper. For example it doesn’t have a tendency to catch on fire.
But lithium for EVs is predicated on religious green-progressivism. It is a holy sacrament to Gaia. So if the green-progressive religion goes out of favour so will EVs (which are stupid for immutable physical and chemical reasons). Then the lithium price will make like the Hindenberg, since supply will massively exceed demand.
So lithium is a bet on Gaia, lefties and how long a big lie can be spun. Pretty dodgy fundamentally but potentially lucrative short term. Just don’t be caught holding worthless tulip bulbs when reality exerts itself.
Hallward
All technology is limited, you appalling fatmouth. The question is at what point is there zero possibility for incremental improvement. When the incel make that comment, Tesla battery potential was approximately half of what it is now. Now STFU and stop steering conversations to irrelevancy as you always try to do.
Brucie
Stop the bullshit about “green-progressivism” this or that. The topic is that you told us that battery technology had hit the wall. This was battery potential was approxinately hlaf of where we are now. You were wrong.
Australia Day
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Why does a continent need its own day?
At mid-40’s, the only gear that looks good on me is, funnily enough, “preppy”- collared shirts, v-neck jumpers, flat front long pants.
T-shirts look atrocious unless I’m less than twenty days on the good side of a haircut.
And yes, the collar of a polo shirt is worn unfolded.
And ffs gentlemen, you can have all of the tatts and sunnies and bare ankles you want, but if you are wearing a two-piece suit, then do up at least one button at all times when standing, and undo all while sitting. The footage of Tame’s fiance flapping about like MaoGowan (another repeat offender) is as atrocious as Hamish Macdonald being seated and looking like he’s wearing a dumped linen curtain.
Not particularly – not since all the bullshit about “Invasion Day.” A few hundred half starved, verminous convicts, with a few hundred more sailors, Royal Marines and their families would have to be the most unlikely force ever sent by anyone, to invade anywhere.
Bespoke, don’t forget the price mechanism. Ultimately the price will determine which two people will buy the cookies. The price mechanism does the job of allocating efficiently.
It’s not just capacity issues that limit electric cars, it the degradation of said batteries thru each charge-discharge cycle. Toyota hybrid batteries are meant to last the design life of the vehicle- 10 years. Then you’ll most likely need to replace them.
Eyrie, don’t get Australia, the nation state, confused with Australia, the continent.
Mind you I’m just about to embark on an extended period of no barber visits and political t-shirts, so kinda like an inverted Mungo MacCallum, right-wing and westerly.
We still have the nation – state? I thought it went extinct a couple of years ago.
The batteries randomly catching fire is a good disincentive. LFP is much better in that regard.
Razey says:
January 25, 2022 at 7:49 pm
Lithium output needs to quadruple by 2030 (8 years) to have any hope of keeping up with demand.
BoN mentions that 100m tonnes of lithium would be sufficient for 50m Teslas. Ok, but globally, about 65m+ cars are produced each year. A BloombergNEF report says that electric vehicles (EVs) currently make up only 3% of car sales worldwide. By 2025 electric vehicles (EVs) will reach 10% of global passenger vehicle sales, growing to 28% in 2030 and 58% by 2040.
So, for the sake of argument, lets assume the report is accurate. Growing demand will soak up lithium for EV batteries but in just 2030, 28% of global car sales (say, 65m) is 18.2m cars needing batteries. That stockpile of, say, 100m tonnes would be 36% exhausted in 2030 alone and doesn’t allow for lithium battery usage from 2022 to 2030. To be clear, BoN and everybody else knows there are more lithium mines and a million tonnes is not the finite resource but equally, worldwide car sales peaked at 80m units in 2018. So, allowing for a car sales resurgence post covid, global sales in the 70-80m range is certainly possible. Added to that, many countries are now offering incentives to buy EVs so take-up may be slightly faster. Note that it is impossible for a country to achieve net zero with their existing national fossil fuel fleet.
By the way, the same can be said for rare earths in that demand may outstrip supply. About 250+kg of REEs are required in each wind turbine and a few kilos goes into every EV. Worse, China processes the vast majority of REEs and has about a 20 year head start on western countries in mining/processing. Many global miners send their product to China for processing and this is a major strategic error (IMO).
This here’s the wattle, the emblem of our land.
You can stick it in a bottle, you can hold it in your hand.
BoN: Amen!
Also Immanuel Kant was a pisspot.
Miltonf
That was the other thing the incel got wrong and thanks for reminding me. At the time, battery life was about 6 years before an expectant change. A few years on and we’re looking at
1. Cheaper batteries
2. Lifespan has improved from 6 to 10 years (60%)
3. Range has doubled.
These factors combined is an astonishing result. It’s actually amazing.
1. cheaper
2. longer
3. further.
If you were able to combine all these factors but putting them in one single variable, the advance over just a few years is truly incredible.
The Labor leader has praised China for ‘lifting hundreds of millions’ from poverty
‘It’s a great economic achievement the likes of which we haven’t seen,’ he said.
Said Communist power deserved ‘a great deal of credit’ for economic successes
Mr Albanese complimented China in a speech to National Press Club in Canberra
The fucking piece of shit does of course realise that the CCP shot, murdered, confiscated and starved the Chinese people into poverty in the first place?
In terms of miles traveled, which is the only true way to measure this variable, petrol cars catch fire at a slightly worse rate. There’s not much you’re right about, Hallward.
Did a few hundred ks in my 2007 Mazda 2L petrol Bruce-chariot today, to see my old dad.
Costs nearly nothing in maintenance despite being as old as a Year 8 schoolgirl.
Not if people don’t resist and let the left dictate terms.
Bruce of Newcastlesays:
January 25, 2022 at 8:35 pm
Australia Day
Anyone interested?
This here’s the wattle, the emblem of our land.
You can stick it in a bottle, you can hold it in your hand.
BoN: Amen!
Two arms, two hands
Two steely bands,
A sprig of wattle in me hand
Symbol of me native land
Orstraylia, you bloody beauty,
So up the old red rooster, and more p1ss!
rickw
The fucking piece of shit does of course realise that the CCP shot, murdered, confiscated and starved the Chinese people into poverty in the first place?
To the extent that he might, he would regard it as the price of getting on the right side of history.
I don’t think Labor cozying up to the CCP will bring in the votes, even though it appeals to their communist sensibilities. A lot of lefties don’t like China and their treatment of minorities and LGBTs.
The electric car can catch fire while parked in your garage, not doing anything. Unlikely for an IC car which will usually catch fire because of poorly maintained fuel and/or exhaust systems while in operation..
Gains in Li-ion batteries sound good in the brochures until you try to engineer an installation, then not so good. In addition to weight of batteries, add the cell isolation, safety and control circuitry, interconnections etc. The original tesla roadster went from 180 W-h/kg to 108 by the time all the sundries were added.
Great stuff on the graceless Grace, Cassie.
And Rosie:
How I wish I was there. Thinking of the view in Crete from the heights of Agios Nicholeas.
And the little churches that dot the Mediterranean and its seascapes.
Instead, here in steamy Sinny. In a rather drab and drear world, and an intellectual culture that has none of the zing of The Spectator in Britain. Much to admire in Britain, even though it can get extremely annoying sometimes. Been busy all arvo with the familial diaspora and The Little Church.
I think it is actually fairly friendless. The younger generation don’t have a lot of interest. The older ones more so.
Oops, left out a line!
Two arms, two hands
Two steely bands,
Beneath the Southern Cross I stand,
A sprig of wattle in me hand
Symbol of me native land
Orstraylia, you bloody beauty,
So up the old red rooster, and more p1ss!
Been quite a few years since I heard that one…..
JC says:
January 25, 2022 at 8:39 pm
The batteries randomly catching fire is a good disincentive.
In terms of miles traveled, which is the only true way to measure this variable, petrol cars catch fire at a slightly worse rate.
It’s a very different type of fire when a large battery is involved.
JC agree electric cars have improved out of sight but I still think a battery can’t beat a tank of petrol or diesel. Hybrids, direct-injection and higher compression means we can use petrol a lot smarter than in the past.
Let’s not forget, if it wasn’t for the Americans booting out the British, they would never have bothered with Australia at all. They only wanted a dumping ground for their trash. I blame America.
The risk parameters of petrol vs EV catching fire are different you nimbus. The only way to determine which is riskier is by miles traveled. Hallward, I say this in the nicest possible way, but you’re really not that fucking bright are you.
Miltonf
Generally, I agree, but you really have to ask what is the car being used for and what is the personal utility for a consumer in buying such a car. I test drove the Mercedes (the more expensive version) SUV crossover and I have to tell you it was truly magnificent. It was great to drive, great being in it and also great looking. I don’t give a shit about gerbil warming. It was fun driving with zero gear change and incredible acceleration. If I bought I will mostly drive it to the beachhouse and there’s plenty of give.
It’s a fiery fire, Gez? 🙂
Boambee Johnsays:
January 25, 2022 at 6:08 pm
Finally, a few in the West are waking up to the corruption of out “leaders”.
In Australia, add in the work of Clive Hamilton. I disagree (sometimes violently) with much of his work, but on China he has done a great deal of good.
Clive is a dickhead; his views about global warming has been very influential to the woke wabbits and therefore very destructive; for a PhD in maths he is a borderline cretin. Besides he once called me and Jo muppets.
I learned it as:
I don’t think Labor cozying up to the CCP will bring in the votes, even though it appeals to their communist sensibilities. A lot of lefties don’t like China and their treatment of minorities and LGBTs.
Rubtugler also forgets that most Chinese are here for a reason: They fucking hate the CCP.
Here’s the other way to measure fiery fires for EVs. Are insurance companies assessing fire risk at a worse rate that petrol cars? I bet they’re fucking not. Whenever in doubt, always ask what insurance fuckers are doing as that will explain the risk calculation.
Looks like we are back to non controversial sports people as AOTY.
Wheelchair tennis champ Dylan Alcott is AOTY.
We can but hope that he doesn’t go off the reservation like the last few appointments.
I’m sure they’re pretty cool JC. I like changes gears myself and manuals are getting rarer and rarer. Different strokes for different folks. Mazda is doing a lot of work to dieselize petrol engines- diesel compression ratios in a petrol engine- petrol power with diesel efficiency.
Cronkite, that was awful of Big Fat Clive to speak about Jo that way.
I’m just thinking about it, Miltonf. I haven’t signed on the dotted line yet. Honestly though, I wish they had a petrol engine in exactly the same shape as it’s really great looking.
JC says:
January 25, 2022 at 8:59 pm
It’s a very different type of fire when a large battery is involved.
It’s a fiery fire, Gez? ?
Water is useless against battery fires, in fact it can make things worse.
Specialist units are needed with the right retardants. The fumes are highly toxic and represent a danger to the nearby population.
The current strategy is to let the vehicle burn out, a much longer time than a normal vehicle.
Nobody is being honest about the increased fire risks of batteries for cars or the home.
Would be a CO2 or dry chem job I assume
Because water is comparatively terrific against petrol/oil fires?
You can cool down a liquid below it’s ignition point or deprive it of oxygen JC.
Batteries have all they need to just keep burning.
It is.
Most farm machinery fires can be put out with about a jam tin of water, if the operator is on the ball & quick off the mark.
Mercedes G 63 AMG 6X6
The all wheel drive hybrid RAV4 is interesting where the rear drive is purely electric. Front is blended elec/petrol. A petrol-electric car almost like a diesel-electric loco.
Super Corsair, as if the Corsair wasn’t super enough!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcfhervA06A
Yeah, nah.
Don’t expect to ever see the “risk calculations” they used to determine Longreach & Alice Springs are extreme cyclone risks.
Likewise for their flat refusal to insure anything north of the 26th parallel.
Speedbox – One million not 100. I gave up counting at that point, I suspect there’s a vast amount of Li in WA still to be found.
These days about a tonne of Nd per wind turbine. On the other hand Olympic Dam contains about 8 million tonnes of neodymium, and over 80 million tonnes of REE (about 0.9-1.0% REE in an 8.8 billion tonne orebody). It never appears on the Powerpoints since if it did the REE price would crash. Amazing deposit.
The way most fires are put out is to exclude oxygen by some means. (CO2, Water etc.)
The issue with battery fires seems to be that once initiated, they start to produce their own oxygen to sustain further combustion.
After the battery shell is broken, the intense oxidation of air with lithium also causes the battery to burn and even explode [2]. When lithium ion batteries burn, the cathode material breaks down and releases O2, and the battery combustion will also release CO and other combustible gases [3].
Gez
If the risk was just a little over the vig, insurance risk would essentially throw EVs out of the market. But they haven’t. Can you imagine if they caught fire in a basement and 100s of people living above? Imagine the payout? The risk isn’t as big as you make out it is.
If anyone here has solar, an electric vehicle might even be a good option as a battery storage to use over night, especially for retirees. Selling my power to the grid at 6.8c/kWh is a disgrace.
Back in Townsville. The Colesworths around where we are staying out the northern beaches are like after a couple of weeks of closed roads of a mamoth Monsson which isn’t the case now. Empty shelves all round. There were gaps on shelves down south but this is on the next level, WTF is going on? Are the regions getting seconds to placate the urban masses, only conclusion I can come to.
Observations in the regions, not many travelling unless moving state, plenty of blue Vic plates towing north. Accommodation not hard to get.
I saw one of them fly (it was the carrier folding wing type – forget the exact model) at the Tyabb airshow once. What a beast.
Dylan Alcott holds a regular chair at the ABC. I’m reminded that upon winning the “golden slam”, I don’t remember him mentioning his coach or support staff, or his hot-cakes redefine-traditional-relationships “sex expert” girlfriend.
I can see how this one’s gonna lean.
Driller , oh fuck off. This theory of yours that insurance risk calculations are faulty globally because none of them give a shit about FNQ is truly laughable.
JC
You’re reverse engineering risk through an actuaries access to data.
Large lithium batteries are a more complex fire risk.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-28/fire-at-tesla-giant-battery-project-near-geelong-investigation/100496688
RBA Consumer price inflation chart.
Doesn’t look good. How long before an interest rate rise from the RBA?
Climbing upwards.
They sell King Island Lobsters there directly from the airport. They’re mouthwatering. They really are superior.
Please stop poking my ear with your finger.
They say lithium polymer is dangerous, yet I abuse the daylights out of my RC’s and have never come close to anything resembling a fire hehe.
The Australian Government went to war on its people 2 years ago.
Thanks for the fashion tips for men. No wonder my son wants Drummond Golf vouchers. 😀
Sounds like a good bloke. Hope he stays that way, Zulu
Holy shit. Does that mean savers are going to start to be rewarded again? Here I was thinking about negative interest rates!
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Richard Harris a couple of years back was a decent pick – and not just for the cave job. I worked with Harry on the medical retrieval helicopters in Adelaide for quite a few years before that.
Where is this “nervous” typeface? I want to try it!
Gez
Just stop. On the trading desk we’d sometimes have a bet about the next refinery explosion somewhere in the US. There used to be one every couple weeks!
Cassie’s comment at 6:01 was right on the money. That woman is a churlish ingrate who, sadly, is doomed to a very unhappy life as a celebrity professional victim on the lecture circuit. I have encountered many similar characters in my professional life. Making her AOTY was a very bad choice both for the Australian community and especially for her. It entrenched and reinforced her chronic condition and as such was a form of abuse. That fellow she’s engaged to should run a mile if he knows what’s good for him..
Houses with big battery arrays may find they have to put a Hazchem sign on the fence to warn brigades of the extra potential hazard in a house fire.
The hype of self sufficiency will eventually be tempered by risk assessment and perhaps insurance implications.
Not keen on EVs, but would accept a hybrid if forced to.
But … friends of ours want me to “babysit” one of their cars because they’re simply not driving it enough.
BMW 535d — 230kW; 630Nm @ 1500-2500rpm; 0-100km/h 5.5 s
Fuel Consumption Combined – 5.6 L/100km
Fuel Consumption Extra Urban – 5 L/100km
Fuel Consumption Urban – 6.7 L/100km
That’s actually consumption better than my Kia 2.0L crdi …
I’ll let you know how it goes.
And after that, there’s a 1990s Porsche 911 they want me to do the same with …
And I get first dibs on buying either of them.
Pinch me, someone.
Not only that, but once you damage the battery, it becomes self igniting because the damage results in electrical shorts which make heat, causing the fire. If you put it out (and yes you can, but a Tesla fire requires TONS of water*) it just keeps reigniting for days until the ‘stranded energy’ in the battery has dissipated. Our CFS SOP for Tesla fires is to order 10 tons of water, AND to then quarantine it for 3 days after you put it out!
In addition, I know from my own experiments that piercing even a small Lithium battery fire can make it go off like a blow torch – the word ‘fire’ really doesn’t describe how violent a lithium battery fire can be.
* I am still somewhat surprised that it is safe to put water on lithium battery fire, but it is!
At least one automotive components supplier has a mandate that electric vehicles (development prototypes admittedly) are not to be charged in the workshop, only in a separate shed away from the main building.
Based on experience.
There is a slight misconception re. Tesla batteries, it’s not so much the technology that changed but the size of the individual batteries used + the overall size of the battery pack.
Few years ago the size of individual cells was 21 mm diameter by 70 mm length.
Today they use 46 mm dia and 80 mm length batteries.
A lot of wasted space was eliminated better cooling and also the size of the b. pack overall increased
Let us not be carried away with an imaginary miraculous improvement in battery technology.
Bigger fuel tank = more miles btw refuel.
Serious question, who is Carrie Bricmore? Sounds like another vacuous grandstander and I really can’t recall who she is.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10438633/Carrie-Bickmore-unleashes-Peter-van-Onselen-called-Grace-Tame-immature.html
Don’t agree with Van Wrongsolen much but do here.
Serious question, who is Carrie Bricmore? Sounds like another vacuous grandstander and I really can’t recall who she is.
Carrie needs lithium more than a battery.
Gabor
“So let’s not count any incremental benefits unless I decide what’s good or bad.”
I hate to break it to you but Mercedes claims they’ve improved greatly on density. But hey, let’s not count it unless you approve. Am I getting it right?
Britain has already supplied Kyiv with thousands of anti-tank weapons and Mr Heappey likened the situation to the Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939 that triggered the Second World War.
Why doesn’t he liken it to the Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939?
Good point. After David Morrison, Adam Goodes and Mick Dodson, the award needed a couple of decent picks.
With the number of cells in a large fixed battery installation you are pretty much guaranteed to have one cell go thermal every month or so. The trick and the know-how is in the separation, compartmentalization and redundancy that a) contain the thermal event to that cell and b) allow the battery to continue operating with only a marginal reduction in capacity.
That’s all pretty costly, and not yet perfected. Batch related defects in adjacent cells can defeat even highly engineered designs.
Look at UPS fires in data-centres, there’s a big one every couple of months, and massive ones every year or so. Batteries are concentrated energy with their own internal ignition source. It’s very hard to design out the risk.
That’s pretty good!
I filled mine up today in Buladelah, buck sixty a litre.
Half in town half hwy came to 7.5 L/100km.
But I paid $12k for my Mazda, so for $99,400 at the bottomest bottom model I’d have to drive the BMW for roughly 2.875 million kilometres to break even.
At my current rate that would take 575 years. I do more kms on treadly than I do in my Bruce-chariot.
Britain has already supplied Kyiv with thousands of anti-tank weapons and Mr Heappey likened the situation to the Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939 that triggered the Second World War.
Why doesn’t he liken it to the Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939?
A game changer will be the first big ev fire underground.
On the one hand moving away from diesel is great for air quality.
On the other having something that might burn for days SHOULD mean the mines department will be looking at refuge chambers air supplies.
I did send a note and chat to an inspector about this a while back when they started talking about bloggers etc going electric.
Haven’t seen any directions on the issue though.
A mate runs everything including shearing sheds on soler and battery’s. Never been a fire.
Re: AOTY, why can’t we just have a normal person without deformities, extreme personal tragedies or breathtaking distinguishing features. You used to have to go to sideshow alley to see the deaf mute or the bearded lady or the drooling cripple. Now they’re on telly on the 25 of every January.
Sounds harsh, now I read it again, but the idea of an AOTY is partly to be an inspiration to others. If we can’t relate at all to them because they are so different, then what’s the point?
JC says:
January 25, 2022 at 9:51 pm
I simply state the current situation with Tesla, the tech is the same, the configuration is improved.
Once Mercedes discloses the new tech for all to evaluate then I and everyone else can make a judgement.
It may well be that they followed Panasonic’s lead and used a different configuration, nobody knows for sure.
As to who and what I approve of is neither here nor there, quite immaterial as a matter of fact.
About as relevant as your lack of personal knowledge about anything really, other than matters financial, shouldn’t stop you from having an opinion.
Farmer Gezsays:
January 25, 2022 at 9:40 pm
Houses with big battery arrays may find they have to put a Hazchem sign on the fence to warn brigades of the extra potential hazard in a house fire.
The hype of self sufficiency will eventually be tempered by risk assessment and perhaps insurance implications.
A few years ago, the Standards Association was supposedly looking into standards for domestic battery installations. On option being considered was to require that the battery be in a brick building separate from the house. Not sure what finally happened.
Bless Boris’s cotton socks.
In the baddie vs baddie stakes I’m on the side of the smaller baddie.
Boggers thank you spellwrecker
Ow I have an image of people downloading recipes and pron via semaphore.
Bruce of Newcastle says:
January 25, 2022 at 9:55 pm
…At my current rate that would take 575 years. I do more kms on treadly than I do in my Bruce-chariot.
That’s probably a good thing BoN – you’d be the only person here who has stuffed 3 Toyotas by driving them like a maiden aunt. Best for the balance of the universe that you keep away from good cars.
Thefrollickingmole says:
January 25, 2022 at 10:00 pm
A game changer will be the first big ev fire underground.
…Haven’t seen any directions on the issue though.
Normal – the directions will come after the first big disaster that everyone could see coming.
Gabor
What I said was that Tesla’s accomplishment has been outstanding. I didn’t make claims that I knew about the technology like incel and ended up being totally wrong. You may have missed that in your delusional mind reading about my observations. Here’s another point that makes your belittling tesla bullshit. Tesla has also increased their battery density too.
that was awful of Big Fat Clive to speak about Jo that way
Little slim clive head prefect. FFS, get your facts right. This little prick.
Two, not three. Early models, one being first in class.
My Daihatsu and my current Mazda have been excellent.
Must get a katana and a wakizashi and do my hair in a top-knot.
I read Shogun once. By James Clavell. Good book.
OTOH my brother is fluent and gifts me authentic wasabi paste.
Carpe might know him, he lived in Kobe several years.
Cronkers.. my apologies. Little slim Clive not big fat Clive.
In any event, it was awful of melon head to call Jo a muppet.
These factors combined is an astonishing result. It’s actually amazing.
.1 cheaper
.2 longer
.3 further.
Fixed it for you, JC.
In the last month I’ve seen 3 teslas hazards on drivers standing beside them looking very worried. All the 3 series, ugly looking. On the other hand I’ve also seen quite a few Audi, differing models. You’d think VW and Skoda as well due to sharing so many parts, but no.
Perhaps I should admit I’m a revhead, even at my age.
Gave a guy in some crappy Jap import “sports” car the shits today by sticking on his arse as he gave it stick away from the lights. Thankfully, the speed limit was only 80, or he would have crapped all over me! 😀
Bern
Stop it. Dots first send me crazy.
The Audi’s were petrol and diesel.
Bruce of Newcastle says:
January 25, 2022 at 10:19 pm
Two, not three. Early models, one being first in class.
BoN – those early Toyotas were as near to indestructible as is possible to get in this world. I bet you never revved them past 2000 rpm.
So you’re going to get a Suzuki Katana – given your history with Toyotas, I think you’d be best sticking to pushies…
It will be very good for Chinese Votes, something Labor hasn’t done well at in Federal elections.
Virtue signaling.
Old Lefties will forget all about Uighurs and Fruits 25 seconds after they’re told to.
re Battery Risks.
I am looking at putting a Tesla Power Wall in. I called the insurance company late last year and asked if the we were covered for a battery fire and if there was any increase in premiums. They said yes I would be covered and no there was not increase in premium.
Either they consider there is no/minimal risk or the insurance companies are lagging in updating risk profiles. I have no idea how they operate but I want to be sure I am covered if something does start to burn.
A mate runs everything including shearing sheds on soler and battery’s. Never been a fire.
If he’s had it up and running for a while most probably he’s got lead-acid batteries, there wasn’t any other option until relatively recently.
mc says:
January 25, 2022 at 10:47 pm
re Battery Risks.
mc – in writing, on your policy. Always.
Thanks for the tip Fat Tony,
Will do
Did Outsiders cover the Kamloops narrative collapse?
Another of the ouens – refused to be vaccinated and is now out of a job.
If the Insurance Companies [World’s leading Scammers, ask Malcolm Fraser.
Oh, hang on, you can’t, he died broke] aren’t reacting to the risk of Tesla Fires, all it means is that Tesla itself is a scam.
Barry says:
January 25, 2022 at 9:54 pm
Look at UPS fires in data-centres, there’s a big one every couple of months, and massive ones every year or so. Batteries are concentrated energy with their own internal ignition source. It’s very hard to design out the risk.
Batteries aren’t found in large data centres these days, the battery/diesel UPS systems have been replaced with DRUPS (diesel rotary UPS). The diesel engine(s) kicks in within a few seconds of a mains power outage, the flywheel continues supply for the few second of the transition period so there’s no power outages.
I showed the Little Bloke the $65k Datsun Ute yesterday. He has an interest because he has a matchbox Datsun Ute which is one of his favourites.
I mentioned to him that when these utes were new some of them were given out for free if you brought a Nissan Truck.
Today he confessed to me that he fell asleep thinking about how amazing it must have been to get a free Datsun Ute!
Missed the Quote tag, last para was mine.
Anyone noticed Vicpol Hwy patrol has souped up 5 series BMWs in the stable. Unreal.
Old Bloke,
How is the flywheel set up? Running in a vacuum and maintained at speed by an electric motor?
Anyone noticed Vicpol Hwy patrol has souped up 5 series BMWs in the stable. Unreal.
Yeah, it’s disgusting. No toy is to expensive for the Vikpol Gestapo!
rickw the boy is lucky to have you for a dad. Keep up the good work.
Weren’t they buying assault rifles at one stage?
The Queensland Police have got tanks.
Anna Bligh gave them their first tank 10 years ago, it was the last thing she ever did as Premier.
JC, yr not exactly helping your own case here mate.
just sayin’
Bruce of Newcastle says:
January 25, 2022 at 9:19 pm
Speedbox – One million not 100. I gave up counting at that point, I suspect there’s a vast amount of Li in WA still to be found.
No doubt. Lithium miners are popping up like your tulip farmers. Not just in Australia, but all over the globe. Some will not survive the 10+ years from resource confirmation to actual mining, but most will. Your comments that “….. lithium for EVs is predicated on religious green-progressivism. It is a holy sacrament to Gaia. So if the green-progressive religion goes out of favour so will EVs….” ignores the reality.
Whether we like it or not, the world is moving to net zero by 2050. The ‘religious green-progressives’ have the UN, the EU, the White House and every major government by the balls. I’ll guess and say a couple of billion people also support it not to mention the pushing of the NGOs and MSM whilst its being taught in schools and yes, every chancer is lining up to get in the trough. Do ‘the people’ understand what’s involved? Probably not. What about the cost? Definitely not. But as I have commented previously in other posts, the fundamental decisions were made 20 years ago and your/my opinion wasn’t required – but the deal is done with a fifty year time line.
On the basis of the agreement, the vehicle manufacturer are collectively spending countless billions on research/development of EVs. They are being squeezed by increasingly onerous emission requirements as governments offer incentives to buy an EV. Other manufacturers are also researching nitrogen (Toyota et al) and many think the future of heavy plant/vehicles plus aircraft and ships is nitrogen powered. Meanwhile, hundreds (thousands?) of businesses are researching delivery technology (chargers), recycle/resource recovery options and a myriad of other power supply opportunities like redox flow cells.
Good luck to you and your old Mazda Bruce, but EVs are coming. Get used to it.
rickw says:
January 25, 2022 at 10:56 pm
…..I mentioned to him that when these utes were new some of them were given out for free if you brought a Nissan Truck.
The thinking back then was that these utes were not real work utes – no big payload, small BoN type engine. And only 2 seats. Got popular later. (Bit like those little Subaru utes)
‘The Queensland Police have got tanks.’
Ah, no.
You mean Queensland coppers don’t have Abrams MBTs on the streets of Fortitude Valley?