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cohenite
February 9, 2022 6:14 pm

Former SAS soldier and Liberal MP Andrew Hastie was deployed during that mission, the court documents state, and is expected to testify for Nine saying he saw Person 66 looking anxious after the mission.

looking anxious. FMD. Hastie should refuse to testify but he’s part of scomo’s government, the most cringing and capitulating conservative government ever, so that is unlikely.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 9, 2022 6:15 pm

She was in a very bad state, not unlike someone who had been given a Date Rape drug.

Drinking plenty of spirits quickly will have the same effect.
Life of the party one minute and unable to walk the next.
Try to remember there’s a human being at the other end of this accusation and trial. Very few of the screaming mob could even name him.

Winston Smith
February 9, 2022 6:15 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

Well we know now. Trump certainly does. I really do hope he can win in 2024 just so I can see what he decides to do with this new knowledge.

I’m becoming a bit of a convert to the idea of him becoming Speaker after the mid terms.
An interesting position, being third in line for the Presidency and able to force the Senate into holding impeachment proceedings for the O’Biden/Harris administration.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
February 9, 2022 6:17 pm

She was in a very bad state, not unlike someone who had been given a Date Rape drug.

She claimed that when they arrived at PH she made a conscious decision to go to PH rather than stay where she was.
That is, she’s claiming that when they arrived at PH she was aware of her surrounds and capable of making and acting on a decision.
Unless she’s actually identical twins, she can’t also have been too unaware to notice that her “convenient” ride home was paid off and was then about to to drive off leaving her stuck somewhere that she says she had no reason to want to be until another ride could be summoned. Why she didn’t try to get that taxi to provide her the claimed “convenient” ride home remains to be explained.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 6:18 pm

Re the grand medical experiment around the world, and the Nuremberg Code, who is able to lay a complaint before the ICC? I understand that the US has not joined the ICC, but we have, so can someone complain about our local Faucis?

If we are part of these organisations, perhaps we should make use of them.

Razey
Razey
February 9, 2022 6:18 pm

Timothy Neilsonsays:
February 9, 2022 at 6:17 pm
She was in a very bad state, not unlike someone who had been given a Date Rape drug.

She claimed that when they arrived at PH she made a conscious decision to go to PH rather than stay where she was.
That is, she’s claiming that when they arrived at PH she was aware of her surrounds and capable of making and acting on a decision.

Has anyone confirmed if Bill Cosby was in the country at this time?

Winston Smith
February 9, 2022 6:20 pm

Zyco:

Ossiana Tepfenhart.

Is it just my adolescent sense of humour or does anyone else read her name as Ossiana Tepenfart?

rickw
rickw
February 9, 2022 6:21 pm

I used to support Howard’s firearm buyback, but that was when I thought making firearms scarce would be a useful way to keep the underclass to the kitchen-knife level. Narrowly, it worked. Unfortunately now that all Australian governments have turned into 1930’s grade fascists I can see my error. Sorry.

I always felt the psychological impact was the most significant aspect.

You can readily manufacture guns and ammo but you can’t readily fix the lack of independence of thought and action.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2022 6:22 pm

So why are you commenting on it for?

Ed – Because I have seen ladies being levitated up the greasy pole many many times in large corporations. It was almost hilarious, any woman with a sniff of ability and management would attach her to a JATO and up she’d go.

The problem is that the normal curve of ability is wider for men than women, so at the far edge men outnumber women a thousandfold. That goes at the bottom and at the top, but you need the really good ones at the top end of the curve much more than the plodders. But this just doesn’t fit with the fad for affirmative action. It doesn’t fit in corporations and it doesn’t fit in militaries. But so powerful is the woke drive these days it is inescapable.

Zatara
Zatara
February 9, 2022 6:23 pm

John McCain crashed at least 6 Navy jets, plus causing massive loss of life by starting a fire on the USS Forrestal.

Bullshit.

He did crash a prop driven Skyraider while in flight training, clipped a power line while on a low level flight training mission in a Skyraider but flew it home, had an engine failure and had to eject from a T-2 jet, and was shot down over Hanoi in an A-4.

He had nothing to do with the USS Forrestal fire except survive it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 6:24 pm

John McCain crashed at least 6 Navy jets, plus causing massive loss of life by starting a fire on the USS Forrestal.

More bullshit, Grogarly.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 6:25 pm

She was in a very bad state, not unlike someone who had been given a Date Rape drug.

Dr Ed diagnoses a patient he has never met, particularly on the occasion in question.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 9, 2022 6:25 pm

Perry Duffin at The Australian:
“The defamation trial of Ben Roberts-Smith has been hit with a series of dramatic twists; one SAS witness is backing away from giving evidence against the celebrated soldier, another may do the same, while a third has been unmasked as a source for Nine‘s journalists.”

As has been observed many times, combatants not in uniform have no protection from Geneva Conventions. By attacking our own SAS we shoot ourselves in both feet. It’s stupid.

Runnybum
Runnybum
February 9, 2022 6:27 pm

Men are now guilty until proven innocent.
It is even announced in Parliament.
Scummo you are an utter arsehole.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 6:28 pm

He had nothing to do with the USS Forrestal fire except survive it.

A helicopter evacuated McCain while the fire was still raging and the fate of the Forrestal uncertain.
Specultion remains that he was evacuated to avoid the likelihood of his being KeelHauled by enraged sailors.

Razey
Razey
February 9, 2022 6:29 pm

Anchor Whatsays:
February 9, 2022 at 6:25 pm
Perry Duffin at The Australian:
“The defamation trial of Ben Roberts-Smith has been hit with a series of dramatic twists; one SAS witness is backing away from giving evidence against the celebrated soldier, another may do the same, while a third has been unmasked as a source for Nine‘s journalists.”

As has been observed many times, combatants not in uniform have no protection from Geneva Conventions. By attacking our own SAS we shoot ourselves in both feet. It’s stupid.

And the Overlords enter us into illegals wars, sending people trained to kill to the war zone, then act like bitches that they killed a few people.

It’s the Overlords that need to be in court.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 9, 2022 6:31 pm

Neil Young in a video clip I saw some time ago produced a harmonica for his next segment and stated its key – can’t recall which – and added rather archly “in case you want to blow along”.
Yeah, right.

Delta A
Delta A
February 9, 2022 6:33 pm

Try to remember there’s a human being at the other end of this accusation and trial.

Exactly!

I suspect that, win or lose, this man’s life has been ruined. The sisterhood has made a goddess of the alleged victim. No court hearing necessary.

I truly feel for this poor man.

Winston Smith
February 9, 2022 6:33 pm

Roger:

Christianity also maintains, in continuity with the Old Testament, the right to self-defence.

You could have fooled me. Christianity seems to be a pup that whimpers at the feet of anyone who wants to give it a good kick in the guts.
It’s one of the things that turns me off religion.

sfw
sfw
February 9, 2022 6:34 pm

Re female pilots, I’m sure that there are many skilled competent women pilots, they would’ve had to prove themselves in a mans world. What makes me believe this is that nowdays so many women get promoted beyond their level of competence to meet quotas or to demonstrate how women can do anything. Looking at how woke the US military is I have no trouble accepting that they would promote someone on the basis of their sex, not competence.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 6:35 pm

And the Overlords enter us into illegals wars, sending people trained to kill to the war zone, then act like bitches that they killed a few people.

Completely arse about.
Serving SAS men blew the whistle on events in Afghanistan.
Governments of both types have bent over backwards to whitewash those events, but a Free Press and the Rule Of Law comes in handy sometimes.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 6:35 pm

As has been observed many times, combatants not in uniform have no protection from Geneva Conventions.

If not in uniform, a “fixed, distinctive sign, visible at a distance.”

FWIW, I do recall an American Senator, demanding at the height of the “Troubles” in Northern Ireland that captured I.R.A. men would receive their correct entitlements as Prisoners of War. A senior British officer pointed out that, captured in civilian clothing, not part of any recognized military body, not commanded by anyone who could be held responsible for their actions, they could quite lawfully be shot out of hand….

Delta A
Delta A
February 9, 2022 6:36 pm

I truly feel for this poor man.

Oh, and if an impartial jury finds this man guilty, then I shall be the first to recant my support.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2022 6:36 pm

Dr Ed diagnoses a patient he has never met, particularly on the occasion in question

It could be worse. He could be providing legal advice. He needs to stick to molesting cats and amateur taxidermy.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 9, 2022 6:36 pm

Oh, but Head Case says …

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 6:37 pm

Specultion remains that he was evacuated to avoid the likelihood of his being KeelHauled by enraged sailors.

“Specultion (sic) remains…” Still more bullshit, Grogarly.

Zatara
Zatara
February 9, 2022 6:38 pm

A helicopter evacuated McCain while the fire was still raging and the fate of the Forrestal uncertain.
Specultion remains that he was evacuated to avoid the likelihood of his being KeelHauled by enraged sailors.

Horseshit.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 9, 2022 6:40 pm

but a Free Press and the Rule Of Law comes in handy sometimes.
No longer true in the USA.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2022 6:45 pm

Winston – Most of the men in the Civil War were Christians, and fought like tigers.

They did so because as a matter of conscience they thought they could. Some felt their allegiance was to the state, like Lee in Virginia. Others saw their allegiance was to the federal government. Because the situation was legally opaque both sides could legally fight for one or the other. And fight they did.

The Left is not ignorant of history that it knows is important to itself. The one key historical observation they’ve very carefully learned is never give a Christian a legal reason to fight. Hence the Dems oozing in the shadows they way they do, such that they never ever afford a clear casus belli.

My musing is that a Republican will get into government, either as Governor or President, declare an emergency and empanel legal militias. Then Christians would step up in millions. After all they’ve been buying firearms for a very long time in anticipation of such things.

Razey
Razey
February 9, 2022 6:47 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 9, 2022 at 6:35 pm
And the Overlords enter us into illegals wars, sending people trained to kill to the war zone, then act like bitches that they killed a few people.

Completely arse about.
Serving SAS men blew the whistle on events in Afghanistan.
Governments of both types have bent over backwards to whitewash those events, but a Free Press and the Rule Of Law comes in handy sometimes.

What Rule of Law?

According to the NSW Supreme Court, we don’t even have any human rights here.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
February 9, 2022 6:48 pm

You could have fooled me. Christianity seems to be a pup that whimpers at the feet of anyone who wants to give it a good kick in the guts.
It’s one of the things that turns me off religion.

True of many of its supposed adherents these days, but not of the doctrine.

Luke 22:36
“Jesus said to them, ‘But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.’”

Razey
Razey
February 9, 2022 6:49 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 9, 2022 at 6:35 pm
And the Overlords enter us into illegals wars, sending people trained to kill to the war zone, then act like bitches that they killed a few people.

Completely arse about.
Serving SAS men blew the whistle on events in Afghanistan.
Governments of both types have bent over backwards to whitewash those events, but a Free Press and the Rule Of Law comes in handy sometimes.

And it’s not ass about. If Australia had not been in this illegal war, none of these events would have happened.

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2022 6:50 pm

“Try to remember there’s a human being at the other end of this accusation and trial.”

I do….and I know his chances of a fair trial are now officially……ZERO. All thanks to this absolute joke of a PM and government, media and social media sewers.

When I see and hear Scumbag….I feel physically sick.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 6:50 pm

Police threatened Kumanjayi Walker with an axe three days before he died, court hears.

Amos Aikman
Northern Correspondent
@amosaikman
2 minutes ago February 9, 2022

Dramatic footage of the moments Aboriginal teenager Kumanjayi Walker confronted two police officers with an axe, three days before he died, has been released by the Northern Territory Supreme Court.

I’m sorry, who threatened who with the axe?

Razey
Razey
February 9, 2022 6:51 pm

Timothy Neilsonsays:
February 9, 2022 at 6:48 pm
You could have fooled me. Christianity seems to be a pup that whimpers at the feet of anyone who wants to give it a good kick in the guts.
It’s one of the things that turns me off religion.

Hehe, you obviously haven’t read the old testament. God didn’t take any shit in those days.

Razey
Razey
February 9, 2022 6:52 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
February 9, 2022 at 6:50 pm
“Try to remember there’s a human being at the other end of this accusation and trial.”

I do….and I know his chances of a fair trial are now officially……ZERO. All thanks to this absolute joke of a PM and government, media and social media sewers.

When I see and hear Scumbag….I feel physically sick.

I have the same reaction with the Hunchback.

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2022 6:54 pm

“I have the same reaction with the Hunchback.”

But aren’t you moving to Japan?

dopey
dopey
February 9, 2022 6:56 pm

National Press Club. The President is Laura Tingle.

Chris
Chris
February 9, 2022 6:57 pm

Thanks for this link; very educational.
Women’s Tears Win in the Marketplace of Ideas.

The thesis is that essentially, ‘woke’ and protests and ‘I’m offended’ are mostly female. Pushing the diversity barrow for decades means that managers who make the rules and enforce them are HR Karens, dominantly women.

Rational discussion would follow rules that are more male. This is a minority of opportunists capitalising on implicit behavioural differences to the advantage of the whiners, and is thus destroying a lot.

Needs to now propose countermeasures like Jordan Peterson’s responses to the Channel Four interviewer.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

She was in a very bad state, not unlike someone who had been given a Date Rape drug.

I’ve seen quite a number of girls in one helluva helpless state after being administered a date rape drug.
It happens in pub all the time. The entire dose is administered in a remarkably short time frame.

The drug is known as “Vodka Cruiser” & usually 20 – 30 “doses” (i.e. a full “vial”) have been self-administered.

They’re quite helpless afterward.

bespoke
bespoke
February 9, 2022 6:58 pm

Disagree Delta.

His analogy gives the green light to creeps. Both parties have the responsibility not to act like jerks and be accountable for their actions.

calli
calli
February 9, 2022 7:02 pm

I truly feel for this poor man.

I feel sorry for our debased legal system and the tendency to whip up witch hunts and trial by media rather than use the avenues that already exist.

The guy in question is supposedly a well known lothario. This doesn’t make him guilty of a crime. He may well have used PH before for “meetings” and be known to security there. This will all come out I suppose.

Security at PH must see some truly amazing sights, but appear to be able to keep their mouths shut.

The woman could have stayed nice and snug in the foyer. She decided not to. Who had the keys to the minister’s office? He or she? Or did they both work for the Minister?

calli
calli
February 9, 2022 7:05 pm

If girls are “helpless” after a date rape drug, they can’t get out of a taxi, walk through the foyer of PH under the watchful gaze of security and obtain passes and keys.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 9, 2022 7:08 pm

National Australia Day Council denies ‘threatening’ Grace Tame call

The National Australia Day Council has denied having “threatening” conversations with Grace Tame after the 2021 Australian of the Year said a senior member of a government-funded organisation had urged her to refrain from criticising Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

That would seem to be the end of the matter, unless Ms Tsme had anything beyond he-said-she-said.

But no, crashing through the undergrowth:

Mr Morrison hit out at the unnamed person who Ms Tame claimed spoke to her last August, calling on them to apologise for their “unacceptable” behaviour while insisting he was not aware of any moves to silence her.

She still won’t like you. Idiot.
Is there anything Moron can’t fuck up?

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
February 9, 2022 7:09 pm

Anchor What says:
February 9, 2022 at 6:25 pm

Perry Duffin at The Australian:
“The defamation trial of Ben Roberts-Smith has been hit with a series of dramatic twists; one SAS witness is backing away from giving evidence against the celebrated soldier, another may do the same, while a third has been unmasked as a source for Nine‘s journalists.”

Oh What a tangled web we weave
When first we practice to deceive

Sir Walter Scott – Marmion : a Tale of Flodden Field

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2022 7:09 pm

“I feel sorry for our debased legal system and the tendency to whip up witch hunts and trial by media rather than use the avenues that already exist.”

Well said.

cohenite
February 9, 2022 7:10 pm

FMD that utter bitch tame compared scomo to a rapist, the teacher who molested her. Apparently tame has had undiagnosed autism spectrum disorder.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2022 7:11 pm

I’ve seen quite a number of girls in one helluva helpless state

Body mass half that of the guy.
Ego twice that of the guy.
Got to keep up with him.
The rest is history.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 7:11 pm

Security confirmed Brittany was in a helpless state.
At least one Security Officer on Duty that night later resigned over the incident.
There were ongoing conferences that morning trying to arrive at some decision as to how to proceed.
Lehrmann was well known to Security as a High Flyer and they didn’t want to lose their cruisey jobs.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
February 9, 2022 7:11 pm

Is there anything Moron can’t fuck up?

It’s only Wednesday, give the man time.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 7:11 pm

I’ve seen quite a number of girls in one helluva helpless state after being administered a date rape drug.

Way back when, Perth coppers were investigating an outbreak of “drink spiking” and “date rape drugs” in the nightclub belt of Northbridge – some thirty cases. A senior officer gave a radio interview saying none of the cases involved drink spiking, it was a waste of police time, and suggesting some people “needed to find out how much they could drink.”

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2022 7:12 pm

“Is there anything Moron can’t fuck up?”

Nothing…he’s got to go. He’s a disgrace.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
February 9, 2022 7:13 pm

Apparently tame has had undiagnosed autism spectrum disorder.

AKA a fucking nutter with an axe to grind

bespoke
bespoke
February 9, 2022 7:13 pm

The strength of any anti-wokeness movement depends in large part on the strengths of its antibodies to a certain kind of female emotionalism. Jonathan Rauch and most classical liberal types avoid the difficult questions. Religion works better because, like liberalism, it disproportionately appeals to women and provides an alternative model for how the sexes should relate to one another. Relying on religious dogma also frees one from having to intellectually justify arguments that most anti-wokes are uncomfortable explicitly making.

Heh! from moles posted artical.

Winston Smith
February 9, 2022 7:13 pm

More on the Trump Presidency and his comeback pathway.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 7:14 pm

FMD that utter bitch tame compared scomo to a rapist, the teacher who molested her.

She was a physically mature senior High School student just short of being over the age of consent.
She also appears to be a dead eyed psychopath.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 7:16 pm

Security at PH must see some truly amazing sights, but appear to be able to keep their mouths shut.

Security on any large building sees some truly amazing sights, but you are told to keep your mouth shut as part of the job.

wretch
wretch
February 9, 2022 7:16 pm

Jesus who picked Grace Tame as AOY the experts on MAFS?

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 7:18 pm

Mr Morrison hit out at the unnamed person who Ms Tame claimed spoke to her last August, calling on them to apologise for their “unacceptable” behaviour while insisting he was not aware of any moves to silence her.

Brilliant [politics, he’s dared Tame to make up some even more outlandish shit.
My prediction?
She’ll take the bait.

P
P
February 9, 2022 7:22 pm

A lot of santizing been going on me thinks.

How cold would it have been around midnight in March 2019 in Canberra that someone couldn’t wait outside or in the taxi? Better still could not the taxi driver been asked to drive her home instead of being dismissed?

The other, married in 2017 to a child actor, was she divorced by the time she was nominated for AOTY?

Just thoughts, that’s all.

duncanm
duncanm
February 9, 2022 7:25 pm

National Australia Day Council denies ‘threatening’ Grace Tame call

good to see they’re embarrassed by her behaviour. They might think a little more about who they award in future.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
February 9, 2022 7:27 pm

Another great ‘date tape’ drug are cocktails.
I attended a Work function lunch at a bar 2-3 years back that kicked on well into the evening. The female work colleagues decided it would be a good idea to get us all drinking cocktails. They were blue from memory. Went down like cordial. Holy shit I got back into the beers quicksmart. Too strong for me.
Anyway I shared a cab back home and agreed to chaperone a las and drop her off on the way. She was plastered. Pulled up outside her house. I pour led her out of the cab and walked her up to the door. She slides down onto the step. I knock on the door. No response. I try the door it opens. In the living room we’re 40-50 people conducted a traditional Sri Lankan per wedding ceremony in full kit. They all stared my way. I looked down and said to the girl. ‘You’re on your own!’.
She survived. Her family were none too happy with her. LOL.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 7:28 pm

Look, the bottom line is this:
Whether you’re Graham Richardson, or Janet Albrechtsen, there’s never been a Liberal Party Prime Minister like Scott Morrison and Labor doesn’t
know how to combat him.
You couldn’t even compare him to Bjelke Petersen, because The Media were generally on Bjelke’s side [while he remained Premier].

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 7:30 pm

Specultion remains that he was evacuated to avoid the likelihood of his being KeelHauled by enraged sailors.

Dick Ed no relies on barrack room gossip for his various assertions.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 7:33 pm

Governments of both types have bent over backwards to whitewash those events, but a Free Press and the Rule Of Law comes in handy sometimes.

Suddenly, Sneakers Ed is moving against “Scotty”. Lovers’ tiff?

Razey
Razey
February 9, 2022 7:34 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 9, 2022 at 7:28 pm
Look, the bottom line is this:
Whether you’re Graham Richardson, or Janet Albrechtsen, there’s never been a Liberal Party Prime Minister like Scott Morrison and Labor doesn’t
know how to combat him.
You couldn’t even compare him to Bjelke Petersen, because The Media were generally on Bjelke’s side [while he remained Premier].

Fuck Scummo. That fuckhead has stood back and watched labor fascists medically rape us for years, all while smirking to the camera every change it gets.

Roger
Roger
February 9, 2022 7:34 pm

Security on any large building sees some truly amazing sights, but you are told to keep your mouth shut as part of the job.

And also to keep your job.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 7:35 pm

Zulu

captured in civilian clothing, not part of any recognized military body, not commanded by anyone who could be held responsible for their actions, they could quite lawfully be shot out of hand….

It is considered courteous to give them a drumhead court martial. The delay is only a matter of minutes, as the evidence is clearly obvious.

custard
custard
February 9, 2022 7:39 pm

Donald J Trump
45th President of the USA

The Biden Administration now says “conspiracy theories” about elections are the greatest threat to the homeland. Does the Department of Homeland Security include in its list of conspiracy theories the on tape irrefutable evidence of massive “Ballot Harvesting” in the Swing States? Do they include more votes than voters, and the fact that in Georgia thousands of duplicate votes were scanned and voter fraud was committed with 100-0 falsified vote counts for Joe Biden? Do they include in Wisconsin more than twice the election margin voted without ever showing Voter ID, which is illegal, or the widespread fraud uncovered in nursing homes? Or how 23,344 mail-in ballots were counted, despite the person no longer living at that address in Arizona, and that there was over 100% turnout for mail-in ballots in precincts in Pima County. What about the many violations of the Constitution, and the millions poured into Swing States by the Facebook CEO to hijack our elections?

The Biden Administration will do anything to keep the eye away from the massive irregularities and voter fraud that took place in the 2020 Presidential Election, even so ridiculously as going after its own citizens as “terrorists” using DHS, which should instead be focusing on the Border, where millions of people, from places unknown, are pouring into our Country. They are so desperate to hide the truth, they’ll make it criminal to speak it!

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 7:40 pm

Calli

The woman could have stayed nice and snug in the foyer. She decided not to. Who had the keys to the minister’s office? He or she? Or did they both work for the Minister?

Apparently they were let into the office by security unlocking the door.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 9, 2022 7:40 pm

Have read the articles in the Oz and CM about Tame and Higgins and listened to the clip about the phone call.

Can anybody tell me what the “threat” aspect of the call was ? Seems to me like somebody strongly suggesting not having a go at PM but no mention of horses heads in bed etc. Quite obvious which organisation it would be and easily checked as caller would be known.

As for Higgins. Tell you daughters to use her as a role model for what not to do !

Plus great posts by Calli.

I hope defence counsel specifically mentions PM’s apology when saying can’t get a fair trial. In fact I think he has made previous similar comments on the case so not first time.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 7:41 pm

It is considered courteous to give them a drumhead court martial. The delay is only a matter of minutes, as the evidence is clearly obvious.

I took great and sadistic delight in pointing that out to a group of the supporters of one David Hicks, who were whining that he hadn’t had a “fair go.”

“Big boys game, big boys rules.”

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 7:43 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 9, 2022 at 7:11 pm
Security confirmed Brittany was in a helpless state.

So helpless that she walked around to the ministerial office. Have you ever been inside the ministerial wing at PH?

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2022 7:44 pm

From The Daily Telegraph…

Grace Tame: Women’s Safety Minister confirms investigation into ‘threatening’ phone call

An investigation into the source of a threatening call made to Grace Tame asking her not to embarrass Scott Morrison close to the election has been launched, the federal government has announced.

Five months after being named Australian of the Year, Grace Tame says she received a “threatening” phone call from a “senior member of a federal government organisation” begging her not to say anything “damning” about Scott Morrison close to the election.

Women’s Safety and Social Services Minister Anne Ruston said she was unaware of the allegations until Ms Tame revealed them at the National Press Club, but it was now her understanding an investigation has “already” commenced.

“That is an unacceptable thing for any agency that is funded by the government to be seeking to do that to anybody,” she said.

A spokesman for Mr Morrison said the first he or his office became aware of that allegation was during Ms Tame’s speech on Wednesday.

“The PM has not and would not authorise such actions and at all times has sought to treat Ms Tame with dignity and respect,” the spokesman said.

The spokesman said Ms Tame “should always be free to speak her mind and conduct herself as she chooses”.

“The PM has made no criticism of her statements or actions,” he said.

“While Ms Tame has declined to name the individual, the individual should apologise.

“Those comments were not made on behalf of the PM or PMO or with their knowledge.

“The PM and the government consider the actions and statements of the individual as unacceptable.”

Speaking at the National Press Club, Ms Tame said she felt she had “nothing to lose” after being constantly branded “politically divisive,” and revealed she received the call from an unnamed official on August 17 last year who was fearful about her impact on the Prime Minister’s reputation.

“I received a threatening phone call from a senior member of a government funded organisation, asking for my word that I would not say anything damning about the Prime Minister on the evening of the next Australian of the Year Awards,” she said.

Ms Tame said the caller told her she was an “influential person” and Mr Morrison would “have a fear” about her behaviour.

“What kind of fear, I asked myself. A fear for our nation’s most vulnerable? A fear for the future of our plan? And then I heard the words, ‘with an election coming soon’,” she said.

“A fear he might lose his position or, more to the point, his power.”

Ms Tame said she had watched how even her most “common sense movements” were “lost in translation” because others deliberately misrepresent them, and then “projected division onto them” that was not “real”.

“For instance, certain members of the commentariat have consistently labelled me as politically divisive, failing to mention that I spent most of last year having frank, productive meetings with politicians on all sides at both the state and federal level,” she said.

“So, after a year of being re-victimised, commodified, objectified, sensationalised, delegitimised, gaslit, thrown under the bus by the biased, mainstream media, despite my inclusive messaging, I would like to take this opportunity to … remind you that I really have nothing to lose.”

Here’s my summary, I call bullshit on Tame’s claims.

I noticed in the footage that I’ve seen of the National Press Gallery frenzied hate fest today that Women’s Safety and Social Services Minister Anne Ruston was sitting at a table. She didn’t look very impressed.

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2022 7:46 pm

“Just thoughts, that’s all.”

I share your musings P.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 7:46 pm

She was a physically mature senior High School student just short of being over the age of consent.

Dick

Given your vast knowledge of this subject, perhaps you could advise us how her situation compares to the male student whom Cheryl Kernot groomed and seduced while she was a teacher? Physically mature? Close to the age of consent?

Vicki
February 9, 2022 7:46 pm

You could have fooled me. Christianity seems to be a pup that whimpers at the feet of anyone who wants to give it a good kick in the guts.
It’s one of the things that turns me off religion.

Actually, I have just finished reading (after a very long time!) the Gospel of John. I was struck with just how “muscular” the behaviour of Jesus towards the Pharisees and other detractors, was.

Roger
Roger
February 9, 2022 7:49 pm

You could have fooled me. Christianity seems to be a pup that whimpers at the feet of anyone who wants to give it a good kick in the guts. It’s one of the things that turns me off religion.

Whoever wrote this is ignorant of history.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 7:50 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 9, 2022 at 7:28 pm
Look, the bottom line is this:
Whether you’re Graham Richardson, or Janet Albrechtsen, there’s never been a Liberal Party Prime Minister like Scott Morrison and Labor doesn’t
know how to combat him.

Labor doesn’t need to combat him, he is doing a fine job of that all by himself. But do tell us more, Sneakers Ed.

You couldn’t even compare him to Bjelke Petersen, because The Media were generally on Bjelke’s side [while he remained Premier].

What world do you live in? Fantasy Land?

Winston Smith
February 9, 2022 7:51 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

But this just doesn’t fit with the fad for affirmative action. It doesn’t fit in corporations and it doesn’t fit in militaries. But so powerful is the woke drive these days it is inescapable.

Political ideology is killing these women who have been told by others who sit behind desks and will never face the consequences of their efforts to push others up the corporate and military ladder.

Sadly the USN would grab any lady cadet with both hands and physically carry her through training these days if that’s what it took, such is the woke imperative for equalidy. That’s not a good preparation for a carrier fighter pilot.

Would these pilots still be alive today if they were honestly graded?
Probably.

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2022 7:54 pm

Chris Merritt on Bolt saying that the accused cannot get a fair trial.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 9, 2022 7:55 pm

The Biden Administration now says “conspiracy theories” about elections are the greatest threat to the homeland.

Structural politics.
Laid on the foundation of Jan 6 = Pearl Harbour + Benedict Arnold.

Roger
Roger
February 9, 2022 7:57 pm

Those who made Grace Tame AOTY did her no favours.

But presumably she had a say in the matter…which she has to own.

That seems to be a key element missing in Ms. Higgins’ story as well: personal repsonsibility.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 7:57 pm

Winston

Political ideology is killing these women who have been told by others who sit behind desks and will never face the consequences of their efforts to push others up the corporate and military ladder.

The ideology is also leaving them physically damaged (particularly in the Army) by having them carry heavy loads cross-country.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
February 9, 2022 7:57 pm

Is it just my adolescent sense of humour or does anyone else read her name as Ossiana Tepenfart?

I did.

Roger
Roger
February 9, 2022 7:58 pm

Chris Merritt on Bolt saying that the accused cannot get a fair trial.

He certainly couldn’t in a normal jurisdiction.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 7:58 pm

The Biden Administration now says “conspiracy theories” about elections are the greatest threat to the homeland.

Strangely, the Wussia, Wussia, Wussia conspiracy was not such a threat.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 9, 2022 8:01 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 9, 2022 at 7:11 pm
Security confirmed Brittany was in a helpless state.

To paraphrase the great Thatcher:

Who? Who exactly confirmed this, to whom, when did this happen and how was this remark recorded?

Also, define helpless. Helpless as to what? Unable to work out pi to 25 decimal places? Unable to climb a ladder on one leg? Unable to stop throwing herself at a bloke she thought could further her rise up the chain whilst shitfaced, at a party I paid for?

I’ll wait.

miltonf
miltonf
February 9, 2022 8:03 pm

The backers of the old thief and the old thief himself when he is lucid are asserting that anyone whose opposes them is an enemy of society. USA=>USSR

Roger
Roger
February 9, 2022 8:03 pm

Actually, I have just finished reading (after a very long time!) the Gospel of John. I was struck with just how “muscular” the behaviour of Jesus towards the Pharisees and other detractors, was.

If only you could read it in the original Greek, Vicki (& with a little study you could!).

Modern English translations tone it down more than a bit.

miltonf
miltonf
February 9, 2022 8:05 pm

I have a sneaking suspicion that Russia is freer than the USA now.

calli
calli
February 9, 2022 8:15 pm

Since we’re musing…

If a fair trial can’t be assured and the whole imbroglio is swept into the dustbin…

Higgins gets to retain her “victim” status and all the prestige that goes with it. And she doesn’t have to face some awkward questions in the witness box. Tough about the bloke who’s considered guilty, but so what.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 8:15 pm

He certainly couldn’t in a normal jurisdiction.

Is a judge only trial an option?

Speedbox
February 9, 2022 8:16 pm

calli says:
February 9, 2022 at 7:02 pm
Who had the keys to the minister’s office? He or she?

They were let into the Minister’s office by security. I posted the security guard’s version of events upthread:
Speedbox says:
February 9, 2022 at 3:27 pm
plus a link.

Ed Case says:
February 9, 2022 at 7:11 pm
Security confirmed Brittany was in a helpless state. At least one Security Officer on Duty that night later resigned over the incident. There were ongoing conferences that morning trying to arrive at some decision as to how to proceed. Lehrmann was well known to Security as a High Flyer and they didn’t want to lose their cruisey jobs.

You should also go back and read my post upthread. In part, it says that security said she was obviously intoxicated but nowhere did they say she was “helpless”. When Higgins walked through the metal detector, her shoes set it off and she was told to remove them and try again.

The security guard said: “As she’s gone to put her shoes back on after she’s walked through and cleared herself, she couldn’t get them on,” the security officer said. Security issued the pair with what are known as Positively Identified Passes, or green passes, which allow holders unrestricted, unescorted access. Security took the pair up to Senator Reynolds’s office, unlocked the door and let them in. “That’s how I realised how intoxicated this girl was because she just could not get her shoes on for the life of her.”

If the accused was well known to security as a ‘high flyer’, please describe how you mean that definition. For example, do you mean career wise or as a ‘lady’s man’? Either way, please link your source.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 9, 2022 8:19 pm

Noted footballing bully and chick-tackler Harry Mouncey on the discrimination Bill (the Hun):

Transgender footballer Hannah Mouncey said if Labor supported the government’s proposed laws without protections for transgender kids then it had “no spine”.

Mouncey has no ovaries. Just saying.

Speaking to the Herald Sun, she urged politicians to walk out of the parliament in protest of a “horrific” proposed laws, saying it would legalise discrimination of transgender Australians. “They have decided, obviously, that they need to protect gay kids but trans kids, they don’t need to,” Ms Mouncey said.

“They are not worried about losing votes because they think most of Australia will be okay with it.”

And ‘they’ would be right. Even Labor’s backing it.

calli
calli
February 9, 2022 8:19 pm

Modern English translations tone it down more than a bit.

Story of the raising of Lazarus for instance. “Deeply moved in spirit” isn’t the half of it.

bespoke
bespoke
February 9, 2022 8:20 pm

Judges don’t live in a vacuum and could be just as compromised.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 9, 2022 8:20 pm

Frigging blockquotes.

Apologies. It’s not difficult, I’m just have a mong episode.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 9, 2022 8:23 pm

*having*

Having a mong episode.

Gawd. This must be what Ed feels like all the time.

Winston Smith
February 9, 2022 8:23 pm

Razey, et al:

Hehe, you obviously haven’t read the old testament. God didn’t take any shit in those days.

The past is a different country.
Christianity has morphed into something Jesus would not recognise.
In fact he’d do a re enactment of the Cleansing of the Money Changers in the Temple.
I’d pay good money to see that.

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2022 8:23 pm

“Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
February 9, 2022 at 8:15 pm
He certainly couldn’t in a normal jurisdiction.

Is a judge only trial an option?”

Not sure it is in the ACT.

Rabz
February 9, 2022 8:24 pm

Unless they are at an ALP youth camp…

Piggy Howes barely survived quite a few of them, as he so gut wrenchingly revealed many moons ago.

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2022 8:24 pm

Mouncey is an adult human male.

Rabz
February 9, 2022 8:25 pm

#freetheduk

miltonf
miltonf
February 9, 2022 8:26 pm

Trump wasn’t kidding when he called the meja the enemy of the people. Tingle makes me think witches really do exist.

miltonf
miltonf
February 9, 2022 8:29 pm

This whole pushing of trans-sexuals seems to be the latest attempt to trash western society aka attack the nuclear family. Both the Costello and Murdoch media are fully on board. Enemies of the people.

Bluey
Bluey
February 9, 2022 8:33 pm

Going through the tweets here https://twitter.com/Voice4Victoria

Wow. Redshirts to be referred back to IBAC. Labor MP crosses the floor. Some absolute fire being spat on the floor of parliment.

Favorite quote is about the greens swimming in the swamp while pretending to be offended.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
February 9, 2022 8:37 pm

The University of California has agreed to pay nearly $250m (£185m) to over 200 women who allege they were sexually assaulted by a campus gynaecologist.

Multiple women accuse the university’s Los Angeles site (UCLA) of deliberately hiding James Heaps’ alleged sexual abuse of patients.

Mr Heaps was based at the UCLA student health centre during his 35-year career between 1983 and 2018.

miltonf
miltonf
February 9, 2022 8:39 pm

sounds good bluey- blows my mind how anyone could actually like Andrews. At least Bracks was personable.

bespoke
bespoke
February 9, 2022 8:39 pm

Blueysays:
February 9, 2022 at 8:33 pm

“I felt sick to my stomach”– Jenny Morrison

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
February 9, 2022 8:40 pm

The Labor MP in Victoria who crossed the floor to vote with Somyurek is very brave. Fabricated child-abuse charges a la Pell in the offing?

Queen Skank Patten, is, of course, right behind Andrews (or should the word order be different?).

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
February 9, 2022 8:40 pm

The European Commission took the unprecedented decision to withhold millions of euros in budget funds from Poland on Tuesday over unpaid fines related to a long-running coal mine dispute.

The EU funding earmarked for Warsaw that will now be held back amounts to some €15 million ($17 million).

The dispute is over a European Court of Justice (ECJ) case relating to the Turow mine near Poland’s border with the Czech Republic and Germany. Both countries had complained of environmental damage caused by the mine.

In 2020, Prague argued that Warsaw’s expansion of operations there without environmental checks went against EU law, amid fears of polluting drinking water.

rosie
rosie
February 9, 2022 8:43 pm

Whatever you might say about Tame, her seduction by a mature teacher, in a position of loco parentis, at age 15 was wrong, morally and legally.
And of late female teachers are getting gaoled for the same predatory behaviour.
Iirc in some places age of consent is higher for these teacher student situations.

What game is Mr Ed playing?

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2022 8:43 pm

Are you a gynaecologist?
No, but I’ll take a look.

rosie
rosie
February 9, 2022 8:45 pm

An ALP politician crossed the floor?
One of those on their way out the door?

Bluey
Bluey
February 9, 2022 8:45 pm

Old Leftysays:
February 9, 2022 at 8:40 pm
The Labor MP in Victoria who crossed the floor to vote with Somyurek is very brave. Fabricated child-abuse charges a la Pell in the offing?

Queen Skank Patten, is, of course, right behind Andrews (or should the word order be different?).

The whole twitter thread is worth a read, but the Labor MP is one who fell foul of the preselection axe. That said the statement she put out alleges branch stacking has been endemic for 50 years.

The LDP Mp’s asked some pointed questions too.

Winston Smith
February 9, 2022 8:48 pm

The is the aerial view at the Coutts Crossing in Alberta, Canada.
It’s like something you’d expect at a Trump rally.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 9, 2022 8:49 pm

The backbencher who gave Andrews the treatment.
We get great value from the Indians in cricket and now a MP hits underarm Dan over the fence.

https://www.kaushaliyavaghela.com.au/about/

rosie
rosie
February 9, 2022 8:50 pm

Incidentally I see James Newburrie is incandescent about this religious freedoms Bill.
He’s a member of some liberallgbt caucus and making a lot of noise.
He’s also the son of a ‘militant lesbian’ and fully supports third wave feminism.
Whatever his issues are they aren’t caused by Christian schools.
I’m well aware that students experiencing same sex attraction living in Christian homes, attending Christian schools can feel particularly conflicted, but moving homosexual acts to the notasin column isn’t going to help.

rosie
rosie
February 9, 2022 8:52 pm

And for the record, again, Archbishop Comensoli is on the record stating he would go to prison rather than breach the seal of the confessional.
It’s rather central to any understanding of the nature of the priesthood.
Have a feeling lying about other people might be a sin.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 8:53 pm

Tame has admitted leading the teacher on.
Plenty of teachers are Inverts and plenty of High School girls ain’t.
It’s always been that way, since some fool decided that teenage girls had to go to School rather than either get married, go to work, or work in the family business.
It’s been a disaster for State School education.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 9, 2022 8:54 pm

rosiesays:

February 9, 2022 at 8:43 pm

Whatever you might say about Tame, her seduction by a mature teacher, in a position of loco parentis, at age 15 was wrong, morally and legally.

Well, yeah.
But that person wasn’t ScoMo or Peter Dutton or Josh Frydenberg.
So stop putting the shit on them for something someone else did.
Enough!
This teacher was backed up by his union initially, right.
Where is her sneering at senior ACTU people because a few union officials backed up her abuser?

Chris
Chris
February 9, 2022 8:55 pm

Are you a gynaecologist?
No, but I’ll take a look.

I was once cornered in conversation at an arty party, by about four women who it turned out thought I was a gynaecologist. Birth war stories were the order of the evening, and I had four or five having been there for my own children’s births. Possibly my wife might have been there too.

In hindsight, I may have been speaking of pre-baby lessons, mentioned some ideas I heard from other participants such as the one who was having another baby because she felt she hadn’t had a legitimate birth experience; perhaps the midwife forgot to put on her prepared mix tape at the critical moment. When we went to be the example new Dad and new Mum at the next round of birth lessons, I mentioned this and said I felt it was tiger country giving birth; people can die or live, and getting out of it OK is the very best result however it happens.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2022 8:57 pm

Life Site News:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/33-year-old-father-dies-of-immune-disorder-linked-to-pfizer-covid-vaccine-doctors-say/

A healthy 33-year-old husband and father died last week of an autoimmune reaction that his doctors say is linked to Pfizer’s COVID vaccine.

Brandon Pollet, a Louisiana instrument mechanic and father of a one-year-old daughter, died Friday after being diagnosed with multiple immune disorders. Pollet’s conditions began to develop immediately after his second Pfizer shot at the end of August, according to a GoFundMe fundraiser set up for his medical and funeral expenses.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 9, 2022 8:58 pm

H B Bearsays:

February 9, 2022 at 8:43 pm

Are you a gynaecologist?
No, but I’ll take a look.

Green ute.
Sticker on the side.
“Jim’s Gynaecology”.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2022 8:58 pm

Russian Toady:

https://www.rt.com/sport/548172-greece-ilioupoli-alexandros-lampis/

A Greek football star has died aged 21 after collapsing during a match, with an ambulance reportedly arriving to the stadium 20 minutes after the incident.

Alexandros Lampis collapsed to the turf just five minutes into his appearance for third-tier southeastern Athens outfit Ilioupoli against Ermionida.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2022 8:59 pm

Jim’s Gynaecology

We’ll trim your bush and cut your grass.

Winston Smith
February 9, 2022 9:00 pm

On Friday, central Illinois Judge Raylene Grischow granted a temporary restraining order to temporarily suspend the Illinois Department of Public Health and the state board of education’s requirements for masks, vaccines, and weekly coronavirus testing until the matter can be presented at trial.

Grischow’s ruling also prohibits the State’s 170 school districts from refusing teachers and students admittance to school buildings if they have been deemed as close contacts to those who tested positive for COVID.

The Left only obey the rules when they feel like it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2022 9:00 pm

No one ha yet mentioned that Brittany didn’t report the incident to police at the time, and only did so two years later after she’d gone public AND came under weeks of pressure. Only then she made a complaint.

I’ll leave it to the court, but maybe the judge should wear a peg on his nose.

Chris
Chris
February 9, 2022 9:01 pm

I’d mow his lawn.
But I wouldn’t cut his grass.

bespoke
bespoke
February 9, 2022 9:01 pm

All true Sancho it still doesn’t diminish the responsibility of the teacher.

Bluey
Bluey
February 9, 2022 9:02 pm

Here’s a thought. How quick will Albo be distancing himself from Andrews? Reckon there’s going to be some splatter from this IBAC referral, and it’s not that long ago they were showing what good mates they are.

Could federal Labor be dragged in even?

The more I think about it the more excited I get. I feel like I’m 14 and found porn. Got to temper my hopes.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2022 9:03 pm

Science, ergo, it must be accepted.

https://neonnettle.com/news/4209-women-store-dna-from-every-man-they-ve-ever-made-love-with-study-finds

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0045592

Male Microchimerism in the Human Female Brain

Abstract
In humans, naturally acquired microchimerism has been observed in many tissues and organs. Fetal microchimerism, however, has not been investigated in the human brain. Microchimerism of fetal as well as maternal origin has recently been reported in the mouse brain. In this study, we quantified male DNA in the human female brain as a marker for microchimerism of fetal origin (i.e. acquisition of male DNA by a woman while bearing a male fetus). Targeting the Y-chromosome-specific DYS14 gene, we performed real-time quantitative PCR in autopsied brain from women without clinical or pathologic evidence of neurologic disease (n?=?26), or women who had Alzheimer’s disease (n?=?33). We report that 63% of the females (37 of 59) tested harbored male microchimerism in the brain. Male microchimerism was present in multiple brain regions. Results also suggested lower prevalence (p?=?0.03) and concentration (p?=?0.06) of male microchimerism in the brains of women with Alzheimer’s disease than the brains of women without neurologic disease. In conclusion, male microchimerism is frequent and widely distributed in the human female brain.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 9:06 pm

A girl can get married at 14 with a Court’s permission.
Tame was a physically mature 15 when she led this teacher on.
Why did the Teacher’s Union support him?
There musta been a reason.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2022 9:07 pm

The European Commission took the unprecedented decision to withhold millions of euros in budget funds from Poland on Tuesday over unpaid fines related to a long-running coal mine dispute.

Same week the 82nd Airborne arrives.
Who’s your daddy?
(I can’t believe I’m saying that about Slow Joe, but the EU is actually worse.)

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
February 9, 2022 9:07 pm

Remember them?

The Missouri Supreme Court on Tuesday indefinitely suspended the law licenses of two St. Louis attorneys who waved guns at Black Lives Matter protesters in 2020, but it stayed their suspensions and placed them on probation for a year.

The orders came after Missouri’s chief disciplinary counsel last year asked the court to suspend the law licenses of Mark McCloskey and his wife, Patricia McCloskey, in connection with their guilty pleas to misdemeanors stemming from the gun-waving incident.

The orders mean that if they violate the terms of their probation, their law licenses could be suspended indefinitely.

The probation terms require the McCloskeys, in written quarterly reports, to note any arrests, criminal charges, civil lawsuits, disputes with clients, investigations questioning their fitness to practice law and reports of additional disciplinary complaints.

The court also ordered them to provide 100 hours of pro bono legal services during their terms of probation.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 9:08 pm

So the reality is that it’s legal to have sex with a 14 year old, you’ve just gotta getta Court’s Permission to Marry her first

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
February 9, 2022 9:10 pm

The “evidence” in the Roberts-Smith case will apparently include Person 66 being seen ‘looking anxious’. Shades of Lady Bracknell’s ‘guiltily sipping tea and eating cucumber sandwiches’.

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2022 9:10 pm

“Whatever you might say about Tame, her seduction by a mature teacher, in a position of loco parentis, at age 15 was wrong, morally and legally.”

Agree….he’s a creep and he rightly went to goal for his crime. Having said that, I also find Tame’s vitriolic attacks on Morrison wrong, morally and legally.

The bottom line is that Tame should never…..ever…..have been appointed as AOTY. Her behaviour during her tenure as AOTY has been utterly disgraceful.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 9:11 pm

Which raises the questions:
in these days of SSM, has any SS bloke gone to Court to get Permission to Marry a 14 year old boy?
Or a Lezzo to Marry a 14 year old girl?

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 9:15 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 9, 2022 at 8:53 pm
Tame has admitted leading the teacher on.
Plenty of teachers are Inverts and plenty of High School girls ain’t.
It’s always been that way, since some fool decided that teenage girls had to go to School rather than either get married, go to work, or work in the family business.
It’s been a disaster for State School education.

Sneakers Ed is trying for the Charles Dickens award for creative writing?

rickw
rickw
February 9, 2022 9:16 pm

A pretty amusing story about an investor “restructuring” a business:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdbxYZfBsxk

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2022 9:18 pm

A girl can get married at 14 with a Court’s permission.

Please stop.

bespoke
bespoke
February 9, 2022 9:19 pm

‘morally’ yes but ‘legally’ that would be upto Morrison. As for “vitriolic attacks” please don’t give them a reason to shut the new cat down.

rickw
rickw
February 9, 2022 9:21 pm

Green ute.
Sticker on the side.
“Jim’s Gynaecology”.

Is the logo the same except for legs either side of Jim?

miltonf
miltonf
February 9, 2022 9:21 pm

Morrison is being Alinskyed. Just like Porter. I wonder if Tingle has read Rules for Radicals.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 9, 2022 9:21 pm

Higgins is rather overdoing the white pantsuit and white t-shirt look. I mean, I know it’s the innocent jesus look, and it’s hand in hand with Brittany Higgins Pty Ltd Inc, but it’s just not flattering to the larger girl to be strapped by wrinkling and struggling to do up a jacket button.

miltonf
miltonf
February 9, 2022 9:21 pm

I wonder if the twits in the LP have even heard of Rules for Radicals.

rickw
rickw
February 9, 2022 9:22 pm

Please stop.

I accidentally red an Ed post, I think I have a brain bleed.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 9:24 pm

If Sneakers ED really wants that award, he will need to improve his written expression. Words like gotta, shoulda, coulda, getta and similar must be avoided.

cohenite
February 9, 2022 9:25 pm

When I started reading this I thought they’ve caught that arsehole simon holmes-a court:

A spy ring led by a wealthy “puppeteer” with deep links to a foreign government and its intelligence agencies had recently tried to bankroll vulnerable political candidates in an attempt to get sympathetic MPs elected to parliament.

In one of the most brazen attempts at subverting Australia’s political system, the network sought to get candidates into positions of power but was shut down by the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation before it could fulfil its ambitions.

While the country involved has not been named by ASIO, the sophistication of the operation, according to intelligence sources, pointed to only two nation states with that level of intent and the resources to carry it out – China or Russia.

It is understood that the sting was carried out “recently” suggesting the target was the federal election due in May.

P
P
February 9, 2022 9:25 pm

Her marriage in 2017 to a US citizen and her subsequent nomination in 2020 for AOTY raises the question, when were they divorced. That is their business but leaves us aussies with questions for which we should have answers. How long was it that she had been living in Australia before her nomination?

bespoke
bespoke
February 9, 2022 9:27 pm

Words like gotta, shoulda, coulda, getta and similar must be avoided.

Thanks for the tip BJ. Is ya clown OK?

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 9:28 pm

They’ll never Alinsky Scotty because he isn’t too concerned about what the press or anybody else is saying about him.
He’s waited until it’s too late for Labor to replace Albanese before getting on the front foot against him.
Let’s see how Albanese handles it.
My prediction?
He’s another Doc Evatt, he’ll have a complete meltdown.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 9:30 pm

Her marriage in 2017 to a US citizen and her subsequent nomination in 2020 for AOTY raises the question, when were they divorced.

[Question mark required.]
Good point, i’m saying the chances of her being a Spook are now 50/50.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2022 9:33 pm

Dover,

It’s not just trolling now with blatantly objectionable material to get you shut down, we are being spammed with it.

F l u s h

t h e

‘ t a r d

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2022 9:37 pm

bespokesays:
February 9, 2022 at 9:27 pm
Words like gotta, shoulda, coulda, getta and similar must be avoided.

Thanks for the tip BJ. Is ya clown OK?

Certainly, but only when it is addressed to Mr Ed.

Gab
Gab
February 9, 2022 9:43 pm

Comensoli says a lot of things but his milquetoast actions speak louder, as he has shown over the past 2 years, as have all the bishops.

Have a feeling lying about other people might be a sin.

Then you should stop doing so.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2022 9:44 pm

Freedom Manifesto – Policy 4 – Low, Flat Taxes

Liberal Democrats (Australia)
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Freedom Manifesto – Policy 4 – Low, Flat Taxes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T1c3J7nbX4

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 9, 2022 9:47 pm

F l u s h

t h e

‘ t a r d

I presume that you’re talking about Mr. Ed? I find him mildly amusing, but I confess to feeling guilty about laughing at the afflicted.

132andBush
132andBush
February 9, 2022 9:58 pm

Special Ed is an algorithm.
A spam bot.

Picks up on key words or people upthread and constructs a word salad around them with deliberately provocative terms.

It’s clever but when you look closely is lacking in any consistency both morally and ideologically.

miltonf
miltonf
February 9, 2022 10:00 pm

Thanks Dot-Limbrick is very impressive. Worth my vote

miltonf
miltonf
February 9, 2022 10:01 pm

It’s only six we vote for right?

Winston Smith
February 9, 2022 10:03 pm

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) on Feb. 7 declared a heightened terrorism threat due to “false and misleading narratives,” misinformation, and “conspiracy theories.”
Why do I feel a little concerned about this ‘threat’?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 9, 2022 10:03 pm

Test

Bert Ironmonger

…. …

And now we wait.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 10:04 pm

When I started reading this I thought they’ve caught that arsehole simon holmes-a court:

Normally, I agree with the old saying that the sins of the father should not be visited on the children, but I’ll make an exception for that dung beetle.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 9, 2022 10:05 pm

Jim’s Gynaecology

We’ll trim your bush and cut your grass

‘Hey, Jim, Jacquie’s on the phone again. Says she’s got one of the coupons.’

miltonf
miltonf
February 9, 2022 10:06 pm

Why do I feel a little concerned about this ‘threat’?

Because it is criminalizing opposition and dissent. They was a coup against the people in 2020. The dirty old man cheated.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 9, 2022 10:06 pm

Of course you can have sex with a 14, or 15 year old girl.

As long as you’re prepared for the consequences.

miltonf
miltonf
February 9, 2022 10:08 pm

So much for ‘of the people, for the people, by the people’.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 9, 2022 10:11 pm

callisays:

February 9, 2022 at 3:52 pm

My view of the initial statement was a ploy to save her job. The idiot minister who hand patted her should have referred the lot straight to the AFP.

I thought this too.
They were both in career-ending shit for a drunken escapade in the office.
Suddenly one is a victim, the other one is a crim.
The scariest words I heard her utter today … “My political career”.
Excuse me?
Nobody elected you to anything, darling.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2022 10:15 pm

Two hundred million dollars per mile. How is that possible for a trainline?

Costs of California’s troubled bullet train rise again, by an estimated $5 billion (9 Feb)

California bullet train officials on Tuesday released a new draft project blueprint that acknowledges that costs have risen roughly $5 billion but seeks to address several issues that have generated blowback. The 2022 business plan estimates that the full, 500-mile, high-speed system between Los Angeles and San Francisco will cost as much as $105 billion, up from $100 billion two years ago.

Which lets me put up this headline…

Labor leader Anthony Albanese pledges $500m for Sydney-Newcastle fast rail (2 Jan)

At normal Cali rates, which I take to be typical of lefties, that 500 big after exchange rates would build just over 2.5 km of very fast train track.

miltonf
miltonf
February 9, 2022 10:15 pm

But she was ‘desperate’ for a career in politics. Career politicians are the problem.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 10:16 pm

Cop’s macabre warning to axe-wielding Kumanjayi Walker prophetic

Amos Aikman
Northern Correspondent
@amosaikman
46 minutes ago February 9, 2022

A Yuendumu-based police officer whom Kumanjayi Walker threatened with an axe told the Aboriginal teenager’s cultural grandmother that the “next time he does that, he might get shot”, a jury has heard.

The macabre warning came after the 19-year-old had leapt shirtless from a darkened room brandishing a hatchet and lunged at Senior Constable First Class Christopher Hand and Senior Constable Lanyon Smith. The pair had gone to Walker’s girlfriend’s house in the troubled outback community of Yuendumu to ­arrest him for breaching a court order.

Both told the Northern Territory Supreme Court they did not draw their weapons when Walker confronted them because they believed he wanted to escape rather than cause harm.

Three days later Constable Zachary Rolfe shot Walker three times after the latter stabbed him in the shoulder with scissors during at attempted arrest gone wrong. Constable Rolfe is on trial for murder over the shooting death of Walker in November 2019. Prosecutors say only the first shot was justifiable.

To prove its case, the crown will have to persuade the jury that Constable Rolfe was not acting in self-defence, nor acting reasonably in the course of his duties, nor acting in good faith while exercising police powers.

For a murder conviction, the jury will need to be certain beyond reasonable doubt that Constable Rolfe intended to kill Walker when he fired shots two and three.

Constable Rolfe also faces the lesser charges of manslaughter and recklessly engaging in conduct causing death.

After the axe incident, Constable Hand wrote in an email to superiors that he didn’t think Walker “wanted to chop us”.

Under cross-examination, he acknowledged freezing during the encounter. “I froze, which I’m not proud of, but it is what it is,” he said in a police interview.

“I was yeah, frightened, you know, fear. Fearful that you know, we’re going to (get) hit, not necessarily killed, but you know, severe damage, probably to your head.”

Constable Smith was captured on body-worn video footage telling Constable Hand that he “begged for mercy”.

“I was stuck in the corner, and I just begged for mercy,” he said.

Constables Hand and Smith returned to the scene shortly after to collect the axe from Walker and speak to his partner’s grandmother. “So next time he does that, he might get shot,” Constable Hand told her.

“In Alice Springs, community policeman are different to town policeman.”

Prosecutor Philip Strickland SC has been eager to show the jury that policing remote Aboriginal communities requires a soft touch and that Constable Rolfe, who is ex-military and was a member of a town-based Immediate Response Team, did not follow his training.

“Working in remote communities is – can be — quite, quite challenging,” Constable Hand told the court. “You live there, and you want to, if you need to arrest somebody or deal with somebody, you want to do it as peacefully as possible, without the use of unnecessary ­violence because that can have consequences later on with (the) family.”

Senior Constable Lanyon Smith said Warlpiri men used ­violence for show. “They brandish nulla-nulla, sticks, trampoline poles,” he said.

“In their minds, they’re trying to impress upon their family that they’re a strong person.”

Constable Rolfe’s defence lawyer, David Edwardson QC, argued that the “axe incident” materially changed the way police were obliged to deal with Walker because it marked a serious escalation from his previous behaviour.

“We can see from the explanation that you’ve given to this jury, everything turns on the time, place and circumstance of a particular incident … how one matter might present to one police officer on a particular day might be quite different to another police officer … (and) the extent to which the threat is imminent and deployed might be different on one occasion from another?” he asked Senior Constable Smith, who agreed.

The case is likely to turn on what Constable Rolfe perceived when firing the fatal shots.

The trial continues.

Stuck in the corner and begged for mercy. Riiiiight.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2022 10:21 pm

Sortition would end career politicians forever.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 9, 2022 10:24 pm

On This Day (Wiki):

1855 – A series of hoof-like marks in the snow continuing through the countryside for some 40 to 100 miles (60 to 160 km) were discovered in Devon, England.

Great Granny Tame was very fit.

bespoke
bespoke
February 9, 2022 10:28 pm

OK cool, BJ.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 9, 2022 10:29 pm

A lot of expert opinion upthread about a ladeee allegedly putting an F-35 into the drink off the deck of the USS Carl Vinson.
Very grainy video, but I do wonder if there might have been an arrestor gear failure.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 10:30 pm

Who cares about American politics?
If Trump hadna announced Operation Warp Speed, and shilled for the vax, nunna this shit would be happening.
Let’s talk about Thatcher.
Did you know that the 6 Irishmen wrongfully convicted over the 1974 Pub Bombing Campaign were all active local Conservative Party members in Liverpool?
And that Thatcher didn’t lift a finger to help them, despite their obvious innocence and her being Opposition Leader from 1976 and PM from 1979 to 1990?

Barry
Barry
February 9, 2022 10:32 pm
Speedbox
February 9, 2022 10:34 pm

Ed Case says:
February 9, 2022 at 8:53 pm
Tame has admitted leading the teacher on.

In not one account I have read from Tame, or about her, have I read a single word about her deliberately or even accidentally “leading the teacher on”.

I have a unflattering opinion of the woman but would like to see your reference point. Please link.

jupes
jupes
February 9, 2022 10:34 pm

looking anxious. FMD. Hastie should refuse to testify but he’s part of scomo’s government, the most cringing and capitulating conservative government ever, so that is unlikely.

An absolute fucking disgrace. Just like the government he’s part of.

rosie
rosie
February 9, 2022 10:35 pm

You claim without any evidence that the ‘novus ordo’ bishops of Australia will sanction the breach of the seal of the confessional in spite of public statements to the contrary by at the very least archbishop Comensoli. Stating a preference for prison is hardly ‘milquetoast’.
Archbishop Comensoli also spoke against the removal of the right to only hire those who live lives consistent with Catholic teaching in Catholic schools in the state of Victoria.

Here clearly ‘novus ordo’ is intended as a slur.
I’d add the sin of pride to the sin of bearing false witness.
And people wonder why Pope Francis and others have issues with (some) trads.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 9, 2022 10:36 pm

Thatcher didn’t lift a finger to help them, despite their obvious innocence and her being Opposition Leader from 1976 and PM from 1979 to 1990

Because they were spooks.

Captain Obvious moment.

rosie
rosie
February 9, 2022 10:37 pm

I still ed still leading a charge to get the cat shut down.

Indolent
Indolent
February 9, 2022 10:38 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 10:38 pm

Did you know that the 6 Irishmen wrongfully convicted over the 1974 Pub Bombing Campaign were all active local Conservative Party members in Liverpool?

Didn’t Lord Denning personally sign their death warrants, while their wives, children and aged parents wept piteously in the background?

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 10:40 pm

They were both in career-ending shit for a drunken escapade in the office.

Not at all. Nothing happened until Higgins went to see Reynolds.
To say that Reynolds didn’t take the news well would be an understatement.
Yet as far as we know, nobody was ever sacked, though Higgins was sent to Coventry and eventually pulled the pin.
Scotty apologised yesterday for everything that had happened to Higgins from the time she first confronted Reynolds til the day she resigned.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
February 9, 2022 10:43 pm

Good lord.
You need to see the Tame performance to appreciate just how unhinged she is.

The full bunny boiler.

Swivel eyed cut snake red shoes Morrison in tunnels with pizza stuff.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 9, 2022 10:44 pm

Did you know that the 6 Irishmen wrongfully convicted over the 1974 Pub Bombing Campaign were all active local Conservative Party members in Liverpool?

They were all MI-5.
Didn’t serve a day in jail.
The trial was a total sham with paid actors in the dock.
All orchestrated by Lord Dickie Mountbatten, no less.

jupes
jupes
February 9, 2022 10:45 pm

Sitting in the dentist chair yesterday and it was obvious. Dentists don’t believe that the ‘rona is dangerous and they don’t believe masks protect against viruses. If ‘rona really was a deadly disease and masks are required by everyone, why would they risk their life delving in my gob just to clean my putrid teeth?

If they believe that their mask protects them, fair enough, but it’s clear that not everyone has to wear one to create a safe environment.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 9, 2022 10:46 pm

I have a unflattering opinion of the woman

Good for you, but you haven’t been keeping up with events in the Saga of Grace Tame and I have [compared to you].

but would like to see your reference point. Please link.

Mate, if you’re calling me a liar, that’s okay.
You can either leave it at that, or you can produce evidence proving your assertion.
What you can’t do, is expect me to do your research for you.

bespoke
bespoke
February 9, 2022 10:48 pm

Hutlh Qapla’ yInlIj QIp, Ed.

Chris
Chris
February 9, 2022 10:56 pm

simila
FIFY

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
February 9, 2022 10:59 pm

The more I read of the Rolfe murder trial and the circumstances surrounding the shooting dead of Walker, the more I can’t believe that any rational prosecutor could have preferred those charges.

Of course nobody believes this trial is not totally political or snivelling to the aboriginal grievance industry.

bespoke
bespoke
February 9, 2022 10:59 pm

OK who flagged my comment, you ED?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 11:04 pm

Of course nobody believes this trial is not totally political or snivelling to the aboriginal grievance industry.

Difficult to escape that conclusion, Pedro.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2022 11:11 pm

Difficult to escape that conclusion, Pedro.

Prosecutor Philip Strickland SC has been eager to show the jury that policing remote Aboriginal communities requires a soft touch

harrys on the boat
February 9, 2022 11:12 pm

Hoping Custard is about. But how did you get hold of Ivermectin? And can anyone list flyingduks multi drug treatment?

Thanks in advance……

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