1,444 thoughts on “Open Thread – Weekend 12 Feb 2022”

  1. I have to say…I’d love it to be three million.

    But it wasn’t.

    Also multiply due to the fact that larger distances in Aus means the people that do turn up from interstate have a bigger investment in terms of kms travelled than other parts of the world.


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  2. Nope.
    All the anti capitalists here hating on ‘big pharma’ and lauding the altruistic ‘frontline doctors’ as being motivated by truth and love.
    No they aren’t, was the point I was making.


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  3. Matrix those gnats don’t like Confidor. But don’t bother with Bunnings – they banned it.

    Might get some at another hardware store. Also there’s Neem Oil if you’re feeling like an Eco Warrior.


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  4. What if I make a sandwich where the top slice is white and the bottom slice is brown?

    Nooo, TN!

    The white slice on top is dominating the brown one, stripping him of his dignity and right to equality… or some such tosh.


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  5. callisays:

    February 13, 2022 at 8:03 pm

    What are we arguing about? How many were at the demo? How many supported those at the demo?

    These questions are unanswerable.

    The answer is “a significant number representing a groundswell of opinion which, in an election year, you ignore at your peril”.


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  6. The West hasn’t helped this situation in Ukraine.

    1. Russia has long opposed Ukraine joining NATO.

    Who cares?

    2. Russia has asked for assurance that Ukraine will not join NATO.

    One finger salute.

    3. Russia has asked that NATO doesn’t expand further east.

    Two handed one finger salutes.

    4. The West has rejected Russia’s demand.

    Good. Suck it up Vlad. If you were civilized no one would feel a need to join NATO to defend themselves from you, would they?

    5. The West maintains any independent country is free to join NATO.

    Yep. So they should. It’s a defensive alliance not an offensive one.


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  7. Dover, you play the game with the cards you’re dealt. For better or worse the West is the only thing that protects against China. The more in this camp, the merrier which is why going on your own isn’t a great idea.

    You can have a camp without a bipolar IR system. Still, if everything is structured against China, why has the drumbeat been consistently against Russia, why is NATO encrouching on the Russian border, and why are another Olympic Games being held in China?


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  8. I wonder if Ukraine kept a few off the books nukes after they handed the rest over?
    Paranoid pollies might just do such a thing. And Ukrainians have good reason to be paranoid.


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  9. Cassie of Sydney says:
    February 13, 2022 at 4:26 pm
    “but Putin is also a complete dick.”

    Putin is a nasty thug, he’s ex-KGB

    JC says:
    February 13, 2022 at 4:47 pm
    Agree Cassie, but he’s also very near sighted and stupid

    Well I’m just glad he isn’t like the most loved & popular eva, ‘Run Away Key!’, but we’ll leave that issue aside for when it pops up again

    Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov was a Soviet journalist for RIA Novosti and former PGU KGB to.

    Thank God for him.

    Yuri Bezmenov: “Unlike Myself, You’ll Have Nowhere to Defect To!” (rec. 1984)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HWMLrY05Ls
    [a worthwhile message also written by Yuri at the link, for those who don’t have time for the full interview]


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  10. The west have turned away from God. I don’t have to elaborate.
    The US, Canada and we here in Aus have allowed our governments to guide all to accept practices that are foreign to the word of God.
    So many examples in the Old Testament have shown us the outcome of turning our backs on God.


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  11. ussr, tell me this.
    The People’s Grand Jury?
    How is this going to be formulated?
    Who is going to select the jurors?
    From what population will the jury be chosen?
    So many questions.


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  12. Interesting thought.
    Or this one with Germany excluded, and the Baltic States, Ukraine and Belarus added.
    I’ve seen this as a model for the future in several SF books and thought it looked viable…

    The second is closer to the mark, but any Slavic country will fall into Russia’s sphere of influence. Croatia and Slovenia would be part of any Polish-Hungarian group I would think, as would Czechia and Slovakia.


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  13. The Spectator reports:

    FLAT WHITE

    Canberra Freedom Convoy demands, ‘Sack them all!’

    The Canberra Freedom Convoy is an awful lot bigger than the mainstream press would like you to believe. Although they have been in Canberra for nearly two weeks, today’s rally grew to an extraordinary size with the lawn outside Parliament House filling to hold tens of thousands.

    Trucks – adorned with banners, messages, and flags – meandered slowly through the pedestrians. Their playful horns had to compete with cheers and wolf-whistles from a crowd in high spirits.

    ‘No more mandates!’ read one sign. ‘End tyranny. Free Australia!’ said another. ‘Freedom convoy to Canberra. Since 2020 I’ve lost my business.’

    And there it is – the heart of the issue. People have joined the Canberra Freedom Convoy because they have lost more than they can tolerate. It is not a piece of clever political incitement, or some kind of alt-right witchcraft.

    Organic movements like this rise for the same reason Australian politics is awash with minor parties – Labor and Liberal have lost touch. By cracking down on Covid, those in charge constructed cages of safety that not everybody wants to live in.

    The frantic search for something better has spawned political diversity. If left to its own devices, these parties and rallies will condense into a coherent opposition and cause the ‘big two’ some serious problems at the federal election.

    One Nation Senator Pauline Hanson was on the ground amongst protesters, while United Australia Leader Craig Kelly signed protesters into Parliament House four days ago so that they could deliver their demands to the Prime Minister. Nationals MP George Christensen livestreamed from Canberra last week, calling for an independent federal investigative body to address misconduct during Covid which led to people losing their jobs due to vaccine mandates. Liberal Democrats candidates have also been busy, voicing their admiration for the convoy on social media.

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison re-iterated that he supports mandatory vaccination only for workers in high-risk situations with vulnerable people, yet during National Cabinet he has done nothing whatsoever to stop state premiers and chief ministers mandating three shots for almost all workers – including the implementation of vaccine passports which effectively leaves the unvaccinated locked out of their own economy.

    Despite what the Prime Minister says, vaccines are mandatory unless you want to live on the street.

    Why hasn’t Morrison been pressed on this question by reporters with access? Where is the journalistic integrity of ‘trusted’ news organisations who fail – repeatedly – to point out the obvious untruth in the Prime Minister’s words? Indeed, why haven’t they asked the state premiers to justify vaccine mandates when their workforces are full of double-dosed, Covid-infected staff? Australians do not require a medical degree or strings of letters after their names to sense that something has gone amiss.

    This silence from the press is one of the reasons ordinary people made their way down the avenue leading toward the lawn where a stage had been set up to host the afternoon’s events. Independent press and livestreamers shot footage revealing protesters peacefully waving thousands of Australian flags in the perfect Summer weather in scenes that looked more like a music festival than a ‘terrorist event’.

    Their message was clear.

    ‘Sack them all!’ blared out in front of Parliament House, shouted at such volume that it must have been audible through the foundations.

    Politicians should be worried. Even in Canberra, a city dominated by public servants supposedly loyal to those ensconced in the halls of power, there were plenty of vehicles honking and tooting in support of the rally. Could it be that the silent majority are a lot louder when they have a horn beneath their palm?

    What may have started out as a few brave ‘fringe dwellers’ has gathered speed, spurred on in no small part by the enormous truck protest taking place in Ottawa.

    The crowd was littered with ‘solidarity’ banners, flown in sympathy with their Canadian counterparts. Another wave of cheers erupted for them. Canadian truck drivers have suffered through freezing conditions after police confiscated their fuel, their crowdfunding money, and then threatened to take away their children.

    Livestreamers and independent media reported poor service coverage in Canberra, with most enduring constant interruptions to their broadcast. With so many people in attendance, the towers could not handle the traffic. It didn’t matter. The beauty of social media means that technical difficulties and selective reporting from the legacy press can no longer stifle coverage. While they put up pictures and say ‘thousands’, the audience flocks to Twitter and Facebook to count tens of thousands.

    If anything, the spread of Omicron appears to have loosened the shackles of fear. Even with most states over 93 per cent double-dosed, it does not mean that the figure was achieved ‘freely’. The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation’s decision to reclassify ‘fully vaccinated’ as three shots last week, after lobbying from state premiers, has exasperated the spirit of rebellion.

    ‘Enough is enough!’ reads a common placard.

    People are fed up. Let’s be honest, Australians have never liked politicians very much and after two years of wall-to-wall Covid control, they want their lives back.



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  14. Frank says: February 13, 2022 at 7:45 pm

    She is a real hottie.

    Yikes. Recently married too, to a man, I think.

    Is this the wedding where Anthony Albanese was the Best Man?


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  15. Know idea of the truth of this article as I’ve never heard of the company/charity but if only 10% is fact then the slush-fund that is the Great Barrier Reef is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes gummint troughin’ and retirement “plans” ……. FFS!
    https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2022/02/13/scott-morrisons-hillsong-mate-leigh-coleman-an-alleged-fraudster-and-crook-set-to-break-100-million-in-government-contracts/


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  16. Psays:
    February 13, 2022 at 8:26 pm
    The west have turned away from God. I don’t have to elaborate.
    The US, Canada and we here in Aus have allowed our governments to guide all to accept practices that are foreign to the word of God.
    So many examples in the Old Testament have shown us the outcome of turning our backs on God.

    I have read the Old Testament. God took no shit in those days. Need a bit more of his wrath at the moment.


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  17. I’ll repeat what I wrote earlier:

    Putin is not Hitler and Ukraine is not Poland and it’s not 1939.

    Be very thankful Ukraine isn’t part of NATO, because if it were and Russia invaded, NATO’s hollowed out but very woke military would have their arses kicked on the Ukrainian plains by the world’s second most powerful military force operating in their own backyard.

    Even Joe Biden is not that stupid.


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  18. Organic movements like this rise for the same reason Australian politics is awash with minor parties – Labor and Liberal have lost touch.

    The minor Parties are all AstroTurf outfits.
    What’s Hanson believe in? It changes whenever she’s put under pressure.
    Palmer, Holmes a’ Court, who’s funding them t0o direct preferences to the Labor Party?

    By cracking down on Covid, those in charge constructed cages of safety that not everybody wants to live in.

    The Coalition hasn’t cracked down on anybody.
    The ACT is run by fanatics, if you’ve got a problem with that, see them.
    The Bottom Line is:
    Everyone likes a free Party in town.
    The point of the Free Party is to bring down the Coalition Government, nothing else.
    Everyone who attended might as well be a shill, a stooge or a useful idiot.


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  19. Delta Asays:
    February 13, 2022 at 8:03 pm
    What if I make a sandwich where the top slice is white and the bottom slice is brown?

    Nooo, TN!

    Tomorrow every Cat should go to their local supermarket and check out how the bread is arranged on the shelves, to see whether there’s anything that needs to be reported to the Human Rights Commission.


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  20. those gnats don’t like Confidor

    never heard of Confidor… will search

    we have yellow sticky insect trap for the main offender

    those gnats just can’t help themselves they keep on flying and they keep sticking


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  21. She’s rotting from the inside.

    I would like to think the duplicitous nature of the game is to blame, shame eating away from inside, but that is only because I’m a credulous sap at heart. It would imply conscience, more likely it is just poor genetics letting her down. Take the win either way.


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  22. Putin is not Hitler and Ukraine is not Poland and it’s not 1939.

    Roger (and Cassie) – please keep in mind that Putin has no God whatsoever, except perhaps himself. He does seem to have a yearning to recreate Tsarist Russia to some extent. He is getting old. And that is the key to these analyses. He is getting old. Time is running out, and the domestic political situation in Russia isn’t great for him. Old tyrants are worse than most.

    Chandragupta Maurya got to that point and decided the whole thing was worthless, but he had religion. Vlad does not.


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  23. Putin is a nasty thug, he’s ex-KGB and he regards himself as a modern day Tsar, he wants to rebuilt Russia.

    Yeah. But I still like him a lot better than biden or scomo.


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  24. Winston, at 7.52:

    Appreciate the unpaywalled article about QR codes and Colesworth people. It’s interesting reading, but it says nothing like the assertion that the supermarkets will ‘integrate the QR code with your bank account’.

    The reason they’re interested is that paying using a QR code (which had been around for months now, but if you don’t go to a supermarket you wouldn’t know that) through a mobile phone it gets around them forking out for Apple Pay fees.

    This is simple. It is not splitting the atom. It is not new, despite what some would have you believe – if said people have only just found this out, it is not the fault of other people so exploding with rage just makes it funny.

    If you have a phone you can be tracked. Facial recognition technology exists. If you use a rewards card, and/or are on social media your data is harvested – this is why you receive offers ‘suited to you’.

    I am not saying it’s the most wonderful thing since Integrity Farms, but it is the world most of us have been living in for decades – as MT said earlier this arvo. If you want to keep being tracked then keep using those platforms.


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  25. those gnats just can’t help themselves they keep on flying and they keep sticking

    Fly paper is truly a wondrous thing. When it comes to choosing an air freshener like that my preference is to hang a small pig on a string in the hallway.


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  26. Half expected it, just not from you. I’ll be sending a message to the local CW Mossad you’re available and waiting for the right scones to come your way.


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  27. “please keep in mind that Putin has no God whatsoever, except perhaps himself”

    Wrong. Putin is a believer, he’s an Orthodox Christian who’s done much to revive the faith in Russia.


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  28. The West maintains any independent country is free to join NATO.

    Yep. So they should. It’s a defensive alliance not an offensive one.

    So pray tell, why were NATO counties in Afghanistan? The Afghans didn’t attack anyone, they sheltered Bin Laden after the fact. Is that in fact an act of aggression? Sure the Americans had every right to say “hand him over, or else” and then carry through on the “or else” but nothing to do with NATO.


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  29. “Yeah. But I still like him a lot better than biden or scomo.”

    Or Johnson or Macron or Trudeau……Just look at the spineless weak adolescents running the west, all of whom are obsessed by net zero emissions, windmills and solar panels, LGBTQIARSE and transgender ideology and so on.


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  30. Shatterzzz.
    Kangaroo Court?
    Really?

    All I’ve dun is pasted the link and taken the where there’s smoke there may be fire outlook .. I know the bloke has a dubious record and gets excited but not many of his targets call him out ..
    after all, the GBR has had more financial makeovers (via OS numbered accounts) than half the we-is-drowning Pacific Islands, lumped together .. LOL!


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  31. I’m with you DBG. Had a discussion with a beautiful Russian lady, she said Putin was corrupt. I agreed, but saying Snot Moronson is cheap corrupt, weak and incompetant and could waste more money with no benefit to Australia.


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  32. Yeah. But I still like him a lot better than biden or scomo.

    I’m with you Beaugy. He is a patriot, hates political correctness and he likes watches. I have a lot more in common with him than that other pair.


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  33. ruled in favour of an insurance company, stating that death from the vaccine is deemed as suicide

    funny that … I had very similar conv with the business partners yesterday.

    and lol, while they looked stunned and incredulous, the world apparently continued to turn.

    getting fucked by the insurance companies after being fucked by govt is like being socialism’s comfort-bride


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  34. Delta Asays:
    February 13, 2022 at 7:55 pm
    I’m sure we would all appreciate a report via you.

    BJ, I’m sure I’ll hear much more at family dinner tomorrow night, but Daughter’s observations so far:
    Everything from their arrival to departure was very well organised.

    Many thanks, I look forward to the full report.


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  35. Thanks to those attending Canberra for the protest, couldn’t be there myself as still too uncomfortable and was exploring every pothole courtesy of wifes driving back to the coast for the week.


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  36. “Though I guess for some, being Russian Orthodox, isnt actually being Christian.”

    Who would think that? Not me, I know that Catholics and Orthodox are Christians.


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  37. Pedro the Loafersays:
    February 13, 2022 at 7:41 pm
    Just catching up on the “white bread is a patriarchal construct and racist” crazy lady.
    FMD.

    She is a real hottie.

    Bushpig.


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  38. Wrong. Putin is a believer, he’s an Orthodox Christian who’s done much to revive the faith in Russia.

    Rubbish, Cassie. I am amazed you are so naive to say something like that. Putin is a very smart man and a strategic thinker. He is not a believer. He realized that the Orthodox Church is a very useful glue for Greater Russia. Any examination of Russian history will show that. It’s also a good counterbalance to the endless threat of Islam from the east and south. He persecutes other forms of Christianity, that fits with the state religion theory of classic nationalism. He doesn’t believe, but he knows very well that a lot of people do.

    The guy shows his Marxist-Leninist upbringing and training quite clearly, although I don’t think any of that took. But the lessons of the greasy pole in the KGB certainly took. A more cunning operator would be hard to find on the planet right now.

    What this sabre-rattling is about I do not know. I think he could probably recite Sun Tzu from memory though. Thus the idea of a frontal assault on Ukraine seems rather odd, which makes me think something else is in the wings. In the past I’ve said a coup de main on Belorussia would seem to be easier, and that would be in keeping with his apparent aims.

    But he is getting old. And old powerful men have a propensity to go loopy. Especially if mere humans defy them.


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  39. I followed that story regarding the French court refusing to pay out a vaccine injury death because ‘suicide’ to the Facebook page of the lawyer Carlo brusa?.
    All there was was a cavalcade of anti vaxx rhetoric.
    How about linking to a published decision?
    Oh you know people might be entitled to feel a little sceptical.


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  40. jupessays:
    February 13, 2022 at 9:17 pm
    The Afghans didn’t attack anyone, they sheltered Bin Laden after the fact. Is that in fact an act of aggression?

    Yes.

    Is being forced to take a medical procedure or be on the street as mandated by the government, and act of aggression?


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  41. Just catching up on the “white bread is a patriarchal construct and racist” crazy lady.
    FMD.

    She is a real hottie.

    Pedro, I clicked on that. A nightmare. She looks like she belongs to a feminist knitting collective from the New England.


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  42. Is being forced to take a medical procedure or be on the street as mandated by the government, an act of aggression?

    Yes. Also an act of war.

    Remember pollies, you started it.


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  43. Rockdocter my in laws are terrified of the coof. They won’t cuddle their grandchildren for fear of dying. Nothing will convince them any different. The government, health and elite must be punished for this wih extreme prejudice.


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  44. I’d be in the Putin administration. I reckon he’d hold stellar meetings:

    ‘Let’s go through the agenda.’

    ‘Item 1 – no.
    Item 2 – no.
    Item 3 – I already told them no.
    4 – this is shit. Removed.
    5 – yes.
    6 – no.
    7 – yes. Double it.
    This meeting is concluded.’

    No space for meeting howler monkeys in that room.


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  45. Bruce of N

    But he is getting old. And old powerful men have a propensity to go loopy. Especially if mere humans defy them.

    And particularly if they do not believe in an afterlife?


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  46. Why Does the Russian Orthodox Church Support Vladimir Putin?

    https://restoftheiceberg.org/posts/2018/4/2/why-does-the-russian-orthodox-church-support-vladimir-putin

    […] in the 1500’s, as Russia finally banished the Mongols who had ruled them for 200 years. Political and religious leaders started to call the country Holy Russia. They claimed that God favoured their land and that he would bless the rest of the world through them. This idea has never gone away. In the 1800’s, the author Dostoevsky claimed that it was the destiny of Russia “to revive and save the world.”

    G.K. Chesterton made the same prediction as Dostoevsky.


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  47. And I might add Adam has lost the plot.
    I don’t know a single person who has been vaccinated who is wringing their hands about their decision.
    Just wishing our politicians will put the last nails in the lockdown, mandate, passport, coffin.
    How many here predicted we would be in full lockdowns again by now?


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  48. Siltstonesays:
    February 13, 2022 at 9:33 pm
    Where has Putin stashed his cash? Who gets it after he gone? After the first billion, why do they bother?

    LOL. How about focusing on our own cesspit of tyranny and corruption.


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  49. BoN, do you believe that Putin is more cynical than Biden or Scomo? Or BoJo, Macron, et ceteris? Do you believe that any of the above are genuine Christians? Do they behave like Christians?

    They are politicians, successful ones, and hence duplicitous arseholes one and all.


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  50. Just watched this Fox clip on Youtube.
    Canadian protester slams Trudeau: ‘Does not deserve’ to be prime minister.

    At the 2min 40 secs point reporter picks a random man holding Canadian flag outside Parliament House in Ottawa.

    The 60 year old man then gives a very emotional account of what has happened to him and his family due to the mandates and gives his view on Trudeau. Compelling interview and there will be plenty like this in Australia.

    Unfortunately I have no trust in our Governments not to push the mandates further.


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  51. rosie says:
    February 13, 2022 at 9:14 pm
    Yes Cassie.
    Though I guess for some, being Russian Orthodox, isnt actually being Christian.

    You’re obviously of those “some” as you’re usually the one ever so keen to declare who YOU consider is NOT Roman Catholic enough to be Christian.

    Why so coy with Cassie?
    Rhetorical.


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  52. Putin is 69, hardly old and decrepit

    Getting old. He has things to do and time is running out. And in Russia 69 is indeed old. For men their life expectancy is 68 at best.

    I have no idea what his health situation is like, that would be a state secret buried so deep you’d never find it.


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  53. “Getting old.”

    Yet above you described him as “decrepit”. I wouldn’t describe Putin as decrepit, that’s a description for the Sniffer in Chief….who is actually more than decrepit, he’s a walking rotting corpse.


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  54. Bourne1879says:
    February 13, 2022 at 9:38 pm
    Just watched this Fox clip on Youtube.
    Canadian protester slams Trudeau: ‘Does not deserve’ to be prime minister.

    At the 2min 40 secs point reporter picks a random man holding Canadian flag outside Parliament House in Ottawa.

    The 60 year old man then gives a very emotional account of what has happened to him and his family due to the mandates and gives his view on Trudeau. Compelling interview and there will be plenty like this in Australia.

    Unfortunately I have no trust in our Governments not to push the mandates further.

    They will. The Sheep love to be governed hard. The overlords will keep pushing to test the boundaries. It’s all part of WEF plan.

    You will own nothing and be happy.


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  55. Cassie of Sydneysays:
    February 13, 2022 at 9:42 pm
    “Getting old.”

    Yet above you described him as “decrepit”. I wouldn’t describe Putin as decrepit, that’s a description for the Sniffer in Chief….who is actually more than decrepit, he’s a walking rotting corpse.

    Xiden reminds me of the bloke who chose the wrong cup in Indiana Jones and last crusade.


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  56. Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    February 13, 2022 at 9:21 pm

    I may be a biased Orthodox Christian, but who are we to see into the heart of another man and judge him? The fact is that Russia is more of Christian nation than any of the Western nation. I do understand you have problems with the Protestantising of Russia, but the ways the Russians see it, Russia is the third Rome.

    The Orthodox and the Catholics trace apostolic succession from the first century. If you really want to experience what Christianity is like in ancient time, just invite yourself to an Orthodox or a Byzantine Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy on Sunday. You may see a different side of Putin.


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  57. I made no such claim, bare faced liar.
    I have objected many times, to the evangelical, baptist, sda etc denial that Catholics are are even Christian.
    And of course I believe the Catholic church is the one holy apostolic church, it’s the creed.
    Iboth lungs


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  58. Rosie.

    McClown was salivating today on introducing new “ measures” soon.
    Rosie you fine with the double mastectomy and hysterectomy for all ladies over 50 years old?
    It will save lives you know.


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  59. I don’t even know why NATO is still in business- it’s not 1975 and there’s no Soviet Union. Western Europe aren’t the good guys anymore. The empty suits in DC, Westminster and Brussels really seem to want a war though. This constant demonization of Russia is a sign of this. I’d rather have Putin any day than the hollow men of the West with their whispers like rats’ feet on broken glass in our dry cellar.


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  60. Knuckle Draggersays:
    February 13, 2022 at 9:46 pm
    I really wonder what they pump into Biden at his lakehouse each weekend.

    Adrenochrome, mixed with Milo.

    The pumped Hitler full of meth, 100% he’s on something.


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  61. miltonfsays:
    February 13, 2022 at 9:47 pm
    I don’t even know why NATO is still in business- it’s not 1975 and there’s no Soviet Union. Western Europe aren’t the good guys anymore. The empty suits in DC, Westminster and Brussels really seem to want a war though. This constant demonization of Russia is a sign of this. I’d rather have Putin any day than the hollow men of the West with their whispers like rats’ feet on broken glass in our dry cellar.

    I agree. The West will have big problems with Fifth Columnists.

    The West is pretty much circling the drain at this point.


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  62. Putin is pretty happy with the price of oil & gas & uranium over the past 12 months.
    If you see than Keith Suter chap on TV this week saying their break even is 55/60 bucks a barrel, mark your Russia retard bingo card.
    That’s last decade thinking.
    Large parts of the Russian oil ecosystem now produce at less than 20/b which is lower than a lot of the global giants produce at.


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  63. The West is pretty much circling the drain at this point.

    I’m sorry to say I think you are correct- just say Australia did get its act together, who do we pal up with? I reckon Japan, Taiwan, S Korea. Russia? No sure.


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  64. feelthebernsays:
    February 13, 2022 at 9:53 pm
    No one wants a war apart from a few Ukrainian billionaires who are trying to squeeze Biden for a a few more bucks before the party’s over.”

    Correct.


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  65. McClown was salivating today on introducing new “ measures” soon.

    I’m waiting for him to start reimposing abritrary and gratuitous LockDans on us all again.

    That’ll get Kerry Stokes for being a big meanie to him…


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  66. Over the past month open interest in 150/b & 200/b calls hit a decade high.
    At that price Russia laughs so hard.
    It sells subsidised product into their domestic market.
    And exports to those morons in Western Europe.


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  67. rosiesays:

    February 13, 2022 at 9:22 pm

    I followed that story regarding the French court refusing to pay out a vaccine injury death because ‘suicide’ to the Facebook page of the lawyer Carlo brusa?.
    All there was was a cavalcade of anti vaxx rhetoric.
    How about linking to a published decision?

    See the footnotes.
    It was in the Courte de Kangarou.
    With a REAL JURDGE presiding.


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  68. I’m sorry to say I think you are correct- just say Australia did get its act together, who do we pal up with?

    The old Anglophone alliance idea still has its merits.

    Albeit all members have to de-woke themselves and develop long-term immunity to that particularly nasty strain of Marxism first.

    Then we can look at an ASEAN/SEATO arrangement again. But Australia will need the economic and cultural maturity to understand that it needs to pay the necessary costs and have a competent and well-resourced ADF and diplomatic service if it is going to be the ‘good neighbour’ it frequently tells us it aspires to be…


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  69. I may be a biased Orthodox Christian, but who are we to see into the heart of another man and judge him?

    Are you concerned with pronouncing on the fate of his immortal soul, or on trying to anticipate what he’ll do as a head of state of a major military power.
    If the former, I agree with you.
    If the latter, I also agree in the sense that I think it wise to suspend judgment and plan for any possibility.


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  70. The third vaccination shot.

    That’s new? Locking out the twice-envenomated from life after May, perhaps.

    But the 3rd stab to keep your job has been round since late November.


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  71. No one wants a war apart from a few Ukrainian billionaires who are trying to squeeze Biden for a a few more bucks before the party’s over.

    I presume “Biden” is shorthand for “.. squeeze the US taxpayer for a few more bucks (less 10% for the big guy)…”.


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  72. I’m not sure Russia will invade Ukraine. Putin is sabre rattling. He knows Russia be subject to massive sanctions if he does.

    The only country that can ever invade another country without economic consequences and the threat of sanctions is the US.


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  73. Rex Angersays:

    February 13, 2022 at 10:00 pm

    See the footnotes.
    It was in the Courte de Kangarou.
    With a REAL JURDGE presiding.

    It had standing?

    More standing than you could poke a baguette at, mon ami.


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  74. Albeit all members have to de-woke themselves and develop long-term immunity to that particularly nasty strain of Marxism first.

    yes- if someone like Farage was UK PM then absolutely


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  75. ScoMo piping up about Ukraine is hilarious.
    It’s like when Krudd suspended his campaign to get briefed on the gas attack in Syria.
    A gas attack which was proven to be a hoax (h/t Aaron Mate for exposing & to Jimmy Dore for amplifying it).
    Seriously, it’s none of our business.


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  76. BoN, do you believe that Putin is more cynical than Biden or Scomo? Or BoJo, Macron, et ceteris? Do you believe that any of the above are genuine Christians? Do they behave like Christians?

    DrB – The difference between Putin and the others is that Putin has more money than Croesus. That box is ticked. So he has no need for any more lucre.

    A long time ago I mentioned on the old Cat the masters thesis Putin wrote. Long before the fall of the Soviet Union. It was on national control of the mining industry. When he got power he then did exactly what he outlined in his thesis. The mining and petrochemical industries in Russia are thus now effectively controlled by the state, if not so much owned. It’s the fascist model again: the industries are clients of the state but not centrally planned like communism. A more sanitary term might be mercantilism, which fits also with the use of the Orthodox Church as a nation building force.

    I don’t think Putin is cynical at all. I think he is the best diplomatic operator on Earth, but with a relatively weak economy and a disunited polity. He is rectifying the economy rather well. The muslim situation is quiet right now, but has sometimes popped up, like in Kazan and the Caucasus republics.

    Given the effort and money he has spent on moving the Middle East into the shape he wants it (ie. with no gas pipelines to Europe), and the work he has done to establish effective control over the EU energy sector, it would be very strange to throw all that away by starting an inane war. Which again suggests to me there’s something else going on. I suppose we’ll see Wednesday.


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  77. Cassie of Sydneysays:
    February 13, 2022 at 9:48 pm

    Hurrah Cassie! It is Putin that saved the road to Damascus from the marauding infidels. And of course, Damascus is where the other famous jew, Saul who became Paul preached to the Gentiles. And thanks to Paul (with no disrespect to you), we can still eat pork and not get snipped. He was also responsible for the widest distribution of the Torah in the world.

    The Orthodox see Putin as someone who has saved the ancient Christian lands. Well, almost. Iraq had ancient Christian communities going back to the early days that were left in ruins. So much for the Americans helping stabilise the world.

    Blessings..


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  78. I don’t even know why NATO is still in business- it’s not 1975 and there’s no Soviet Union.

    Milton Freidman: nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program…


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  79. Considering Russia already controls the parts of Ukraine it wants/needs, what would it gain from invading.
    Never say never, but I look at it as a low probability.
    If I’m wrong, I’ll be the first to say I’m wrong.

    The question is, if we roll forward a month & there’s no invasion, will all these pro war chicken hawks dial down their cheerleading ?


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  80. But the 3rd stab to keep your job has been round since late November.

    This is the third stab to allow you to go to the bottleshop, the pub, have dinner somewhere…


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  81. “Saul who became Paul preached to the Gentiles. And thanks to Paul (with no disrespect to you), we can still eat pork and not get snipped. He was also responsible for the widest distribution of the Torah in the world.”

    Saul was very practical. Getting rid of dietary restrictions and circumcision was the key.


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  82. Iraq had ancient Christian communities going back to the early days that were left in ruins. So much for the Americans helping stabilise the world.

    yep I wonder if Bush, Howard and Blair ever lose any sleep over this.


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  83. Watched 60 Minutes with Jenny Morrison.
    She politely destroyed Grace Tame and her bitch crew.
    Wrongselen gets his miserable arse handed to him as well.
    Let’s see them try to respond. Good luck grubs.


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  84. Sorry bern. As predicted, and unfortunately, it was just a ticket (Mix 106.1):

    ACT Police have confirmed one person has been fined as part of their investigation into an incident that saw a car become lodged on top of another vehicle in a suburban Canberra street, following a heated exchange between two people.

    She was fined for negligent driving.


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  85. Gentlepeople, please.
    Can we refrain from using the words ‘dietary requirements’ and ‘circumcision’ in the same sentence.
    I had calamari rings for dinner.
    Thank you.


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  86. Considering Russia already controls the parts of Ukraine it wants/needs, what would it gain from invading.

    Tsarist Russia included Ukraine, Belorussia and Poland. If Putin wants to be the new Tsar those places would be on his wish list.

    I think he’s a lifelong Russian patriot rather than a wannabe Tsar. But who knows? As I said he’s getting old. He has no sons that we know of.

    The trouble of course for Ukraine is to be confronted by a lifelong Russian patriot with a big army and more nukes than anyone else. The art for Putin is to get what he wants without the expected costs (which range from merely horrible to severely radioactive).


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  87. First show I’ve watched of 60 Minutes since the kiddie kidnap disaster.
    Have a look.
    Jenny is as impressive as Scott is useless. She’s basically caring for a special needs Prime Minister.


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  88. Knuckle Draggersays:

    February 13, 2022 at 10:29 pm

    Taking one for the team Gez.

    Love it.

    Yep.
    Mrs Panzer was watching the Married to Raise my Insta Profile show when the Tick-Tock came on.
    I almost got a PB for hitting the remote.
    1.2 seconds.
    Good, but I don’t think I’ll ever get down to my best ever times, which were all during the Andrew O’Keefe era.


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  89. I’ve never watched MAFS.
    Year after year it’s top 10 in the ratings.
    I can’t imagine what people get out of it.
    There must be better guilty pleasures.


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  90. The other fun thing is the hyper hype about Ukraine which is coming from the White House smells awfully like a squirrel exercise. Which the Dems desperately need.

    We’ll see this week I suppose. One possible reason for telegraphing an invasion so openly is to set it in peoples’ minds that this is inevitable, therefore unavoidable, therefore to be accepted. Hitler did it with Sudetenland. That only works if the opposition lets it happen, and is a ferociously dangerous stratagem. But Putin is the best on the planet. Who knows, maybe he thinks he can pull it off.


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  91. For a change of pace …

    Thylacine sighting 5/02/22 Ballarat, Victoria.

    Premiered 9 hours ago
    Thylacine Awareness Group of Australia Tas Inc.
    13.3K subscribers
    “Jane” is a Veterinary surgeon with over 20 years experience dealing with animals and animal husbandry. Not only that, she lives in country Victoria and also volunteers in Fauna rescue and wildlife rehabilitation on her rural property south of Ballarat. On Feb 5th whilst filling water troughs for her horses at approximately 11.30am, Jane had a sighting on her property that would challenge what she knew about the existing fauna of her local area. There are neighbours who also have seen and heard unusual animals and also suffered stock losses and discovered carcasses that have been preyed upon in not “typical” ways. WARNING This video contains some images of mutilated sheep that may be distressing for some viewers. Viewer discretion is recommended.


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  92. ‘bern.
    I can’t imagine sitting through a series of MAFS.
    But you can occasionally watch a snippet and you can see what was on the whiteboard at the Producers Meetings.
    This year I think it included “Racism” and “Fertility Challenges for Working Women”.
    One bint in particular is upset because:-
    (a) she suddenly discovered she wanted babies at age 36; and
    (b) the bloke she has known for five minutes “won’t commit”.
    Totally went off her nut.
    Mrs Panzer said, “Oh boy. I think she has been really hopping into the hormonal fertility drugs.”


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  93. Cassie of Sydneysays:

    February 13, 2022 at 10:40 pm

    Jurdge Judy.

    No.
    JURDGE Judy.
    She is the one who will preside over the Grand Jury and deliver the sentences of CAPITAL punishment.


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  94. This is the attitude the media have cultivated over the last year bearing ‘fruit’.

    To be fair, lots of people behave like that without any ideological motivation.


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  95. Apparently there’s a movie in the works which the Proud Boys will be part of the subject matter.
    It’s total fiction, but Brad Pitt is attached to play Gavin McInnes.
    Even though he’ll be torched in the movie, Gavin is pretty chuffed about Pitt playing him.


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  96. Thousands Pour Into Ottawa Amplifying the Voice of Protest Around the Capital

    There’s footage of a group of Canuck veterans at the War Memorial, saying a prayer, and singing the Canadian National Anthem…..


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  97. In case some Cats had missed this

    Ha ha ha. That’s not the interview I watched. Like I said before, it will be interesting if 60 minutes run any of that. Kari beclowned the idiot and it would take some world class editing to make Bartlett win that exchange.


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  98. Remarkable!! Canadian Citizens Form Human Barricade To Stop Trucker Arrests

    Absolute gold.

    Shades of the fall of East Germany when the army refused to fire on the protesting citizens.


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  99. Don’t have a link, but apparently Sarah Ferguson is in the frame to replace Leigh Sales at the 7.30 Report.

    Sarah Ferguson – wasn’t there footage of the live cattle trade to Indonesia, that cost Australian agriculture the odd few hundred million quid, and said footage was later found to be brought and paid for?


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  100. Davey Boysays:
    February 13, 2022 at 10:14 pm
    Here is video of what immediately followed the Canberra Karen incident, the crazed woman goes on to attack further
    https://twitter.com/FishOnReactor/status/1492805706864422914

    In combination with the first video which justifies a charge of vehicular assault can now be added common assault and destruction of private property. A ticket for neg driving doesn’t cut it. There are also civil suits the victim can pursue.


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  101. Truth-telling key step on path to Queensland’s treaty with Indigenous people

    Charlie Peel
    Journalist
    @charliepeeled ?
    2 hours ago February 13, 2022
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    South African style “truth-­telling” hearings are part of a plan being put to Queensland parliament this month in the quest for a path towards a treaty between the state and its Indigenous communities.

    Among considerations, which have been given input from Indigenous people throughout Queensland, is whether to run the truth-telling process through formal inquiry-style public hearings or by more informal submissions.

    Formal hearings could be conducted by a commission with the power to compel witnesses and documents, take evidence, conduct research and report back to the parliament.

    The proposed plans will be put before state cabinet in the next few weeks.

    Queensland started discussions about a proposed treaty in 2019, the third state to do so, and last year set up a treaty advancement committee that completed a report in October setting out a path to negotiate with Indigenous people on a treaty.

    In its most recent budget, the Palaszczuk government established a $300m Path to Treaty Fund to facilitate the process, which could take several years.

    Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Partnerships Minister Craig Crawford said Queensland was well-advanced on its treaty process compared to other states and was behind only Victoria.

    “(The advancement committee report) really talks about what the truth-telling process for Queensland should look like, and how we should implement that,” Mr Crawford said.

    “It gives us really clear recommendations around what the next two to three years of work looks like for Queensland. These … will be considered by cabinet over the coming weeks.”

    Mr Crawford said the truth-telling component was critical as a starting point from which to negotiate a treaty with Queensland’s Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island people.

    He said it was possible there could be multiple treaties within each state.

    “I think the commonwealth will need to have a treaty at some point, but I think individual states need to have treaties with their peoples,” he said.

    “We’re quite mindful that we’ve got Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders people, two very distinct cultures, in this state and they may want separate treaties.

    “Different areas may want different treaties – desert people might want a different treaty to rainforest people, and so on.”

    Proponents of formalised commission hearings include Aboriginal academics Jackie Huggins and Mick Gooda, who are on the treaty advancement committee.

    There have previously been accusations from some members of the Indigenous community, including the Queensland Indigenous Labor Network, which had initially pushed the treaty, that the process had been “hijacked” by personal and political agendas.

    The step closer towards the treaty comes as people in Hope Vale celebrate the 14-year anniversary of the national apology to Indigenous people, which is regarded as an essential precursor to the treaty process.

    Guugu Yimithirr elder and Stolen Generation survivor Ella Woibo, 88, and her husband Frank, 93, who live in Hope Vale, north of Cooktown, hoped a treaty could lead to a better future for their people. Ms Woibo was separated from her family, put in a dormitory and moved south to Woorabinda to work.

    “I cried my heart out,” she said. It’s a different story for the town’s current youth who have grown up in Hope Vale with their families. Some, including two of her great-grandchildren, have joined the town’s famed Barefoot Ballerinas from the Cape York Aboriginal Australian Academy.

    Ms Woibo said she welcomed the 2008 national apology and the prospect of a better future for Indigenous Australians.

    The South African “Truth telling hearings” became such an exercise in “White bashing” that Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu was threatening to resign unless the Commission investigated the rope, and sexual abuse of female ANC members, in the camps in Mozambique….


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  102. vehicular assault

    Understand that I am not NOT backing this spastic woman.

    Happy to be corrected, but I will assert that ‘vehicular assault’ does not exist in this country. ‘Destruction of private property’ is called criminal damage in Australia, and requires intent to cause the damage to be proved. Same with common assault – it requires intent to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Neither will get near it because Karen will squeal that she was trying to drive away and it cannot be definitively proved otherwise.

    The only thing that can be proved is she’s a shit driver. Yes it is selective prosecution when compared to duk. No I am not happy about it, but geez.

    Run the civil suits, sure.


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  103. I went to midday mass here in catalunya and not surprisingly it was in Catalan.
    I thought the qr codes taped to the pews were covid related but on second thoughts I scanned and they were the mass in the language, which is a little bit Spanish, a little bit French and a little bit neither but followable.

    Now having lunch, included is a basket with piece of white bread toast, a clove of garlic, a whole tomato, packets of salt and olive oil on the side. I gather one is supposed to assemble something.


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  104. 1. “Rise and grind” isn’t the type of pick me up you’re thinking of, the laydee in question has an OnlyFans account…

    2. Like I said elsewhere:

    The lamest form of terrorism, but terrorism nonetheless.

    See cl. 83.4 of the Criminal Code.

    Interference with political rights and duties – a maximum penalty of up to three years imprisonment.

    She’s actually in deep shit if she has urged others to do so, then it is a no bullshit terrorism offence. I would commend her to seek qualified advice ASAP.


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  105. Here is video of what immediately followed the Canberra Karen incident, the crazed woman goes on to attack further

    Right…

    1. I admit, at first, I never watched the 1st video all the way through.

    2. What a bitch! That, or she was under the influence.


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  106. Bruce O’Newk:

    Roger (and Cassie) – please keep in mind that Putin has no God whatsoever, except perhaps himself. He does seem to have a yearning to recreate Tsarist Russia to some extent. He is getting old. And that is the key to these analyses. He is getting old. Time is running out, and the domestic political situation in Russia isn’t great for him. Old tyrants are worse than most.

    Otherwise known in political circles as “Old Man in a Hurry”.


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  107. So pray tell, why were NATO counties in Afghanistan?

    Because NATO is a collective defence alliance. Collective defence means that an attack against one Ally is considered as an attack against all Allies.

    Article 5

    “The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

    The question of why the action went on long enough to need them is another topic. The war was won by Feb 2002, but the western politicians couldn’t stomach turning the place over to the Northern Alliance Warlords (who were the only ones with any chance of actually governing the place) so they decided to recreate the place in the image of the west. Nation building is the rediculous term they used for pissing away blood, treasure, and national respect for the next 12 years.


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  108. The only thing that can be proved is she’s a shit driver. Yes it is selective prosecution when compared to duk. No I am not happy about it, but geez.

    That’s true of the first vid, KD.
    The second vid could clearly be enough evidence for her to be charged with assault.
    But I wouldn’t be jumping to conclusions even if they don’t prosecute that – chicks do worse things in the queues at night clubs on Saturday nights.


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  109. @ Frank:

    ” She’s rotting from the inside.

    I would like to think the duplicitous nature of the game is to blame, shame eating away from inside”

    Has anyone checked the portrait in the attic for “malfunction”?


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  110. @doverobeach:

    “Still, if everything is structured against China, why has the drumbeat been consistently against Russia, why is NATO encrouching on the Russian border, and why are another Olympic Games being held in China?”

    “Encroaching”??

    Could it be that China long ago bought a vast swathe of churnalists and pollie-muppets to do its bidding? Though, given the political leanings of said individuals, a bulk-buy could be had for a pittance.

    Q. How do you tell an “honest ” politician?

    A. When they are bought, they STAY bought”.

    See also: Pubic serpents and churnalists.


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