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Napoleon’s Retreat from Moscow, Adolph Northen, 1866

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thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 18, 2022 3:01 pm

duncanm

Coming on the back of Sicktorias (and others) uniformed thugs firing gas/baton rounds at protesters, king hitting people all over Oz for non compliance and assorted thuggery forgive me if I dont hold them in high regard or trust their ability to respond appropriately to crowds.

Police forces in Australia need to be disarmed and lose their “ninja turtle” gear.
I think youd find proactive policing and conflict resolution coming back into vogue pretty quick.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 18, 2022 3:02 pm

“Do you think this dress makes my arse look big?”

Advice on how to answer this question is welcome.

duncanm
duncanm
February 18, 2022 3:03 pm

Senator Thorpe has claimed Aus Govt purchase of aboriginal flag is “colonisation of our flag.”

use of a ‘flag’ by the Aborigines is cultural appropriation.

calli
calli
February 18, 2022 3:06 pm

Duncanm, this is from the ABC, so grain of salt…

Photos and videos shared by protesters show the devices atop a police vehicle and in front of Parliament House. A spokesman for ACT Policing confirmed to Fact Check via email that LRADs were deployed during the protests. (my bold)

Now, in the loose, imprecise language of modern journalism, “deployed” might mean “sitting there looking decorative”. For us old fashioned types, it means “used”.

If it’s the second, “used” how exactly? As a PA? For some nice soothing elevator music? Or maybe, just maybe, for the purpose they were designed and why the police forces throughout the country bought them.

I don’t know. Protesters who became unwell think otherwise.

Winston Smith
February 18, 2022 3:07 pm

Feelthebern:
https://twitter.com/AnnieForTruth/status/1478630501623558145/photo/1
Is that President Trump in the group photos?
If it is, this looks like another attempt to frame him.

Gab
Gab
February 18, 2022 3:09 pm

Incoherent

The answer is always ”no”. But it has to be said immediately without any pause or detectable intake of breath. Otherwise you’re dead meat.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 18, 2022 3:10 pm

Creating the flag was divisive. Referring to themselves as First Nations is pathetically inaccurate and polemical. To get a “voice” try and say something sensible and get elected to an existing parliament, not some special pleading creche.

P
P
February 18, 2022 3:10 pm

Craig Kelly MP@CraigKellyMP·2hMy question to the Speaker of the House

Were sonic weapons (Long-Range Acoustic Devices) used against peaceful freedom protestors ?

And just listen to the ignorant abuse & mindless ridicule that I received for asking this question

DISGUSTING

???

https://youtu.be/s4plBOEBGug

https://twitter.com/CraigKellyMP/status/1494484128602804226

132andBush
132andBush
February 18, 2022 3:12 pm

“Do you think this dress makes my arse look big?”

Advice on how to answer this question is welcome.

“Just a sec, let me see if I can feel any difference”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 18, 2022 3:13 pm

“Do you think this dress makes my arse look big?”

Advice on how to answer this question is welcome.

“Compared to what”
or
“In astronomical terms its very petite”

Follow me at
#bighairyfacedhemanlifetips for more quality information.

Delta A
Delta A
February 18, 2022 3:14 pm

The answer is always ”no”. But it has to be said immediately without any pause or detectable intake of breath. Otherwise you’re dead meat.

Unless she’s just paid a fortune for bum implants, in which the correct answer is ‘yes’. And as Gab advised, no pause to think about it.

132andBush
132andBush
February 18, 2022 3:15 pm

I reckon Maters’ flounce is the best.

Unnoticed.
Text book SF.

calli
calli
February 18, 2022 3:16 pm

“I’ll go get my glasses” will buy you time when every second counts.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 18, 2022 3:16 pm

Protesters who became unwell think otherwise.

As we saw with the Victorian protests, when plod has received a bunch of new toys they have a propensity to want to try them out. It’s human nature. Especially if told they are “non-lethal” so that there’s no personal legal downside to using them. Very like the Milgram Experiment.

Gab
Gab
February 18, 2022 3:18 pm

Frollick continues to prove what a real catch he is.

😀

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 18, 2022 3:20 pm

While it may have been Whitlam and his deputy Lance Barnard who made the decision to pull our troops out of Vietnam, the movement to bring this about regarded Cairns as its leader.

Graham Richardson, in the Oz. He’s being had for breakfast in the comments section, including one poster who says you could be conscripted into the Army, but you had to volunteer to be posted to Vietnam…….

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 18, 2022 3:20 pm

Gabsays:
February 18, 2022 at 3:18 pm

Most of my tips work best with foreign ladies.
You know, the ones who cant speak english, at all.
And whos dads will sell them for a bag of beans.

Razey
Razey
February 18, 2022 3:21 pm

Why doesn’t the government just drop this embarrassing charade. We all know what they want (full communism), we know that 93% will just accept it. It’s getting tedious.

Gab
Gab
February 18, 2022 3:22 pm

Oh yeah and watch your eyes, Inco. They cannot look left or right up or down but you must look your beloved directly in her eyes when answering. Otherwise you’re dead meat.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
February 18, 2022 3:24 pm

including one poster who says you could be conscripted into the Army, but you had to volunteer to be posted to Vietnam…….

Can someone anonymously post a link to that on numbers’ blog?
Light the blue touchpaper then stand well clear…

Pogria
Pogria
February 18, 2022 3:25 pm

132andBushsays:
February 18, 2022 at 3:15 pm
I reckon Maters’ flounce is the best.

Unnoticed.
Text book SF.

Why did Mater flounce?
I thought he had gone bush for a while like I do.
Come back Mater, we love you!

johanna
johanna
February 18, 2022 3:25 pm

incoherent rambler says:
February 18, 2022 at 12:07 pm

Playing on their ground is futile.

Q: Are you or have you ever been a member of the ALP or Greens?
A: Yes.
[clang/clang – sound of gaol door]
Q. Watch you fingers! Next!

I assume that this is a joke.

calli
calli
February 18, 2022 3:26 pm

Calli’s First Law of Flouncing

For every flounce there is an equal and opposite dispute.

Was there a pettifogging pursuit? Verbal violence? A diabolical doxxing? Without this, Mater’s disappearance may just be a time out for very good reasons, or no reason at all.

I await developments.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 18, 2022 3:28 pm

It doesn’t matter whether the AFP are SloMo’s police. The public sees them as police supporting the federal government and Canberra

Well, that is fine, but you will forgive me if I regard any member of the public posting that stuff here as a UAP shill and also a moron

So educate me … why did bail for my ‘traffic offence’ include a stipulation that I cease participating in the Canberra protest activities?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 18, 2022 3:29 pm

pettifogging and/or flibbertigibbeting

calli
calli
February 18, 2022 3:32 pm

Sancho…you have just accused me of being a UAP shill and a moron.

Them’s fighting woids. And very uncharacteristic of you.

Has your account been hacked?

Winston Smith
February 18, 2022 3:34 pm

rickw:

So they deployed a device design to make targets sick and unwell against a peaceful crowd which included women and children?!

There will have been pregnant women there as well.
I wonder what the LRAD effect is on the foetus? I imagine the sounds would be transmitted through the amniotic fluid around it.

C.L.
C.L.
February 18, 2022 3:35 pm
feelthebern
feelthebern
February 18, 2022 3:35 pm

Never flounce on leg day.

JMH
JMH
February 18, 2022 3:36 pm

I am however, a trained epidemiologist

I seem to recall this claim being debunked some time ago.

As I said during one of the previous flounces, buyer beware.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 18, 2022 3:41 pm

As I said during one of the previous flounces, buyer beware.

On the Internet no one knows you are a bear.

miltonf
miltonf
February 18, 2022 3:43 pm

Obviously, under the Trudeau regime, leftist violence gets the kid glove treatment while normal Canadians protesting get the book thrown at them.

That’s because the perps of leftist violence are in reality the sharp end of the new establishment.

JMH
JMH
February 18, 2022 3:43 pm

I know you are a bona fide bear, bear! I know everything.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 18, 2022 3:45 pm

Haha Vic Cats.
Social Housing levy.
Bwahahahaha.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 3:46 pm

I wonder what the LRAD effect is on the foetus?

Juvenile-onset Metalhead…

#DOOFDOOF

JMH
JMH
February 18, 2022 3:46 pm

That should be a capital “B” for Bear. Just showing a little decorum.

calli
calli
February 18, 2022 3:47 pm

That’s the best one so far, C.L.

Better without Pauline lecturing – let the story speak for itself.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 18, 2022 3:53 pm

Timothy Neilson says:
February 18, 2022 at 12:55 pm

the Laptop Left…

Laptop Class came into vogue with Working From Home
i.e. those least affected by lockdowns or mandates.
Between Justine Castreau, reading a bit about the Narodniks, who –
believed that the peasantry would not achieve revolution on their own, insisting instead that history could only be made by outstanding personalities, who would lead an otherwise passive peasantry to revolution.
and the Workers Party of Britain falling foul
of the Qwertyists for not being suitable deferential
viz insisting a bloke in a frock is just a bloke in a frock,
made the Laptop Left seem appropriate.
Also alliteration.

rosie
rosie
February 18, 2022 3:55 pm

Any updates on the injuries sustained by the three million protestors left writhing in agony on the parliamentary lawns after Scott’s Stormtroopers unleashed the sonic weapons?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
February 18, 2022 3:55 pm

feelthebernsays:
February 18, 2022 at 3:45 pm
Haha Vic Cats.
Social Housing levy.
Bwahahahaha.

Gift of about $20,000 in comparative value to existing property owners. (Though probably way offset when the whole state plunges into poverty and values slide.)
Do we still have first homebuyer grants etc.? Will they need to go up by $20,000 to allow for this?

johanna
johanna
February 18, 2022 3:57 pm

Gab says:
February 18, 2022 at 2:42 pm

Speaking of class, there’s a new series out called ”The Gilded Age” from the creator of Downton Abbey.

Early days but doesn’t seem too bad; I can see Jane Austen influences.

The English were the worst when it came to sharing the wealth. Look at those houses with 80 bedrooms while the average peasant would be lucky to get a third of their born children to adulthood. Those houses make the average tech billionaire’s tacky shack look like nothing.

They have done a fantastic con job in comvincing gullible people like Gab that they were kind, but slightly flawed, aristocrats. The dying babies, the lack of clean water – nup, let’s fantasise.

I’ve said it before and will say it again – the NHS and appurtenances were a reaction to that.

The great crime writer Gladys Mitchell refers to how maybe a third of children born to English agricultural workers would live to adulthood. This was in the 1930s.

Those who fall for Fellowes’ airbrushed and romanticised version of history are hardly in a position to credibly critique anything today.

Struth
February 18, 2022 3:58 pm
Vicki
Vicki
February 18, 2022 3:59 pm

This is the latest from Brownstone Institute – read it & weep for the West.
(Sorry it is a block quote, as for some reason it was not possible to click on Share)

With the world reopening, and even US blue states and cities repealing mandates, how optimistic should we be? A little bit is warranted but not that much. What we are seeing right now in Ottawa reveals the hegemonic depth of the system that gave us lockdowns, then mandates: it is now capable of freezing your accounts and essentially starving you and your family.

It’s economic warfare.

This was a wild conspiracy theory last year. Now it is very obvious that this is where many governments want to go. We’ve seen examples just in the past week.

The truckers in Canada deployed the crowd-funding platform GoFundMe and raised $9M, until suddenly the platform said that they would not distribute the money yet, pending the release of a clear plan on what the truckers were going to do with it.

Many of us immediately smelled a rat. Sure enough, a few days later, GoFundMe announced that it would not give the money to the truckers but rather to other charities of its choosing. In other words, it would steal the money. That outraged many people, among them Elon Musk, and the Internet blew up in fury. At that point, GoFundMe returned all the money back to the donors.

In the next act of this drama, the truckers went to GiveSendGo, a platform that seems more independent and that pledged to give the money to the truckers. With no promotion or even a clear link on Google on where to send money, the new method raised even more money. This was entirely thanks to uncensored networks where people were sharing information.

But the story was far from over. The platform was hit with denial-of-service attacks from malicious actors and then hacked. The thing went down hard and had to be rebuilt. The data on donors was leaked to the government and then to the Canadian Broadcast Company who contacted donors under the guise of “doing a story” on the funding. It was a clear attempt at intimidation.

The Minister of Finance got into the act and essentially declared that anyone using these to provide funding to the truckers were engaging in illicit activity — essentially terrorists. Without missing a beat, the Minister of Justice for Trudeau went further to declare that anyone who has given large figures through these platforms “should be worried” about having their bank accounts frozen.

So there we have it on record: the Canadian government has declared that it can freeze anyone’s bank account and seize the contents based on their political views or charitable actions. In the midst of all of this, Trudeau declared emergency powers that allow the government to do this to all for non-compliers, and do so without any court order.

The next step in this astonishing drama: crypto. The platform TallyCoin somehow and almost miraculously navigated all the compliance regulations and became a viable way to use crypto to crowd fund, thus bypassing banks (so long as you don’t convert your crypto to dollars).

Very quickly, the platform raised $1M for the truckers. This was all put together by a group of truckers calling itself HonkHonkHodl. That means, of course, hold crypto don’t sell.

Almost immediately, the ??Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Canada’s FBI) sent letters to many crypto exchanges demanding that any assets flowing through their systems that are known to be intended as donations to the truckers must be reported immediately. At the same time, the truckers are being told to leave. Two leaders of the convoy have been arrested.

Yes, all these actions are clearly political, totalitarian, and relying fundamentally on the control of money and finance to shore up regime power and crush political opposition.

For weeks now, I’ve worried that Trudeau would pursue a Tiananmen Square solution. This was the strategy deployed in China in 1989 to forestall the type of regime meltdown that had characterized events in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet empire. For a while, it appeared that regimes could be toppled if enough people gathered in the streets. China showed otherwise: bullets, tanks, and arrests of key leaders are often enough to shore up control.

These days, a Tiananmen-style solution takes a different form. With financial intermediaries forced to do the state’s bidding, rebellions can be put down with texts, emails, and a few clicks on an interface. Your assets are frozen, then stolen, and you are left without a job or any financial means at all. Jails aren’t even necessary.

Yes, crypto can help bypass the system, but it still must deal with three huge barriers: 1) the exchanges and platforms deal with enormous burdens in regulatory compliance, 2) the onramps to obtaining crypto are ever more intrusive, 3) the offramps to moving crypto out of digits and into cash are highly regulated. None of this is the fault of crypto. It is a failure of the transition.

As an aside, the one word hardly spoken during this incredible drama is Covid. It was never really about a virus. The world is moving past the virus, and left only with the massive and terrifying state machinery that emerged under the guise of public health, a principle which has oddly mutated into another priority: political health.

Since 2013, I’ve written about the possibility of a privatized monetary system. It seemed like a wonderful ideal. Someday, we will get there, surely, in one form or another. But the transition has become extremely complicated, as government authorities attempt to use their existing regulatory hold on conventional money and regulated exchanges to institute a China-style social credit system.

Even now, I cannot believe that I just typed those sentences, which I used to hear only from very fringy commentators. Now the fringe is the fabric. Anyone who has not paid attention to the conspiracy theories of the last year has failed to anticipate most of the news.

Many of the world’s wisest minds have observed that the main means by which powerful states seize and retain control is through the realm of money. Guns help. Prestige helps. But in the end, it’s the control of money that keeps the people in servitude.

Crypto was once for geeks only. Now it has become a tool for saving the working class from obliteration by hegemonic forces within the ruling-class financial structure. The workers’ revolution is taking a different path from what anyone in the 19th century could have ever imagined: from diesel to crypto to freedom.

Or so we can hope.

Struth
February 18, 2022 3:59 pm

Any updates on the injuries sustained by the three million protestors left writhing in agony on the parliamentary lawns after Scott’s Stormtroopers unleashed the sonic weapons?

So, nothing changes. Still people here defending this shit?

Razey
Razey
February 18, 2022 4:02 pm

feelthebernsays:
February 18, 2022 at 3:45 pm
Haha Vic Cats.
Social Housing levy.
Bwahahahaha.

Of course the communist piece of trash would pull this.

Urban Development Institute of Australia said there was a role for industry to help deliver social housing, but it should not be paying for the cost of government underinvestment.

Razey
Razey
February 18, 2022 4:03 pm

Struthsays:
February 18, 2022 at 3:59 pm
Any updates on the injuries sustained by the three million protestors left writhing in agony on the parliamentary lawns after Scott’s Stormtroopers unleashed the sonic weapons?

So, nothing changes. Still people here defending this shit?

Rich Boomers couldn’t give a shit what happens to anyone, so long as those selfish cunts aren’t affected.

Indolent
Indolent
February 18, 2022 4:05 pm

So where’s that communist piece of shit’s Emergency Act now?

https://twitter.com/ritchiejrm/status/1494474049275117568?cxt=HHwWgICqkdqOuL0pAAAA

Already gone. What did it say?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
February 18, 2022 4:05 pm

Any updates on the injuries sustained by the three million protestors left writhing in agony on the parliamentary lawns after Scott’s Stormtroopers unleashed the sonic weapons?

rosie this time you should seriously fuck off.
There’s now no doubt the LRAD’s were there. There’s a lot of official prevaricating about why, and what was actually done with them. A number of protesters said they were made unwell by them. Even the taxpayer-funded lies machine the ABC could only say that that was “unlikely”.
If you’ve got any evidence from 12,000 miles away to back up the ABC’s “unlikely” feel free to provide it.
If you don’t think it’s serious that something like that seems to have been used on totally peaceful protesters, find yourself a nice dictatorship and stay there.

duncanm
duncanm
February 18, 2022 4:06 pm

.. and around we go again with the LRAD invisible weapon theories.

The LRAD devices as used by the ACT cops, as far as I can tell, work within the audible range.

They emit a very loud smoke-alarm / siren type squawk when used in an offensive manner to disperse crowds / hurt people.

They are NOT some infra/ultra-sonic boogeyman.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
February 18, 2022 4:07 pm

Rosie’s clot shot addled pate springs to the defence of the forces of fuckitude. Again.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 18, 2022 4:07 pm

Johanna above reworking her bile from the early days here.
Plus ca change. When she thought I was a younger woman she fell over herself to say my husband would leave me the minutes my tits and bum fell. We just couldn’t be allowed to be deeply in love with two beautiful children together. Lol, we are still in love, never to part, and it must be galling for her to know now that he is ten years younger than me. She was insanely jealous, totally condescending and cruel to this ‘younger’ woman in every possible way and desperate to doxx both of my husbands in her researching panics. She did doxx my current husband. I have the screenshot to prove it. Now she’s just insanely bitter, still going on about her version of our marriage and my ruse using age-slippage to ensure privacy. Sorry you’re a lonely old hag, Johanna, but why take it out on me? You’ve made your own bed. Get your hair done and cheer up. It’s never too late to look better.

Re Angela’s Ashes, the other morning I woke early alone in my isolation room at home, pre positive PCR but very sick indeed. I was in floods of unstoppable tears, crying for memories of my mother. I couldn’t understand it. Then Health’s symptom list came through with the positive PCR text and said uncontrolled crying is a serious symptom, as is dizziness. All I’ve got now is I am sweating like crazy, lying in bed with Attapuss in the aircon coughing a bit and bored enough to be reading the Cat and answering back when I shouldn’t be engaging here at all, for it is very bad for me as everyone knows. This place is toxic for me. On the mend now I suspect. An interesting experience.

And that’s St Vincents Health calling me now. Too late. Attapuss and I have fixed it. Crisis over, sweating has stopped. Can read my book again.

duncanm
duncanm
February 18, 2022 4:10 pm

again… for the hard of hearing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbIF2Tc53To

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 18, 2022 4:11 pm

Haha Vic Cats. Social Housing levy. Bwahahahaha

Anyone still there deserves it. They should be rostered on for the Richmond junkies room too!

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
February 18, 2022 4:13 pm

The great Thomas Sowell said always to ask “compared to what?”

The English were the worst
when it came to sharing the wealth.

Really? Not pre-Revolution France, pre-Revolution Russia and China (and to be frank post-Revolution Russia and China), the Indian princely states up till at least independence, North Korea now…

The great crime writer Gladys Mitchell refers to how maybe a third of children born to English agricultural workers would live to adulthood. This was in the 1930s.

What were the mortality rates among the middle and upper classes?

Winston Smith
February 18, 2022 4:14 pm

Duncanm:

I must say, the histrionics going on around here at the moment will cause repetitive scrolling injuries if we’re not careful.

Use the pgdn button – it will save you from RSI.

duncanm
duncanm
February 18, 2022 4:14 pm
Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 4:16 pm

Struth says:
Is it still a conspiracy to the scoffiers? Andrew Bragg, Greg Hunt…..nothing to see here?

I dunno.

Is it a day ending in -Y?

Are the debbil-debbil New World Orderers still going to murdergenocide us all and despoil and enslave our precious bodily fluids?

Is Struth still upset that all standing and (if necessary) falling in this country is still being conducted contrary to his explicit instructions?

Struth
February 18, 2022 4:18 pm

It’s long since past the time where you are just making a fool of yourself choo choo man.

You’re in deep denial and you are a sad case.

P
P
February 18, 2022 4:19 pm

Vicki says:
February 18, 2022 at 3:59 pm

This is the latest from Brownstone Institute – read it & weep for the West.
(Sorry it is a block quote, as for some reason it was not possible to click on Share)

Thank you Vicki. Length of the article in italics is a bit much for my eyes.

Here is the Brownstone Institute Link:
And Now, It’s Economic Warfare

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 4:20 pm

Lizzie, you’ve just given more ammunition for folks to be murderously envious of you- You’ve successfully encountered and bested the dreaded Nosferaflu!

Rickw is gonna be soooooooo jealous… 😀

#YouLuckyBastard!

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 18, 2022 4:20 pm

Re the AFP Boom Boxes.
Some Cats were saying from the get go that the whole story was bull shit.
Other Cats weren’t disputing their usage but were questioning whether they were all that big a deal.

Some of the former are now trying to position themselves as the latter.
It’s very CHO-like.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 4:23 pm

You’re in deep denial and you are a sad case.

Yes yes Struth.

And Bird calls me a N***er and a Jew. And srr thinks I run cover for rockspiders.

Like I said, is it a day ending in -Y?

And are you still insanely offended by the fact the Counter-Revolution is Revolving quite cheerfully by itself without you at its helm?

Damienski
Damienski
February 18, 2022 4:23 pm

This time I’m really really REALLY not coming back.

Vicki
Vicki
February 18, 2022 4:24 pm

Thank you Vicki. Length of the article in italics is a bit much for my eyes.
Here is the Brownstone Institute Link:
And Now, It’s Economic Warfare

Thanks P! Damn computer seized up on copying link.

duncanm
duncanm
February 18, 2022 4:24 pm

feelthebern — the part of the story that has always been bullshit is that they were ‘deployed’ (used) as a weapon.

JMH
JMH
February 18, 2022 4:24 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
February 18, 2022 at 2:18 pm
Anyway, there’s one less female here now.

Bye.

srr
srr
February 18, 2022 4:27 pm

Samson’s opinion on Covid-19.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kIjqoHPJrE

May 16, 2020
Samson
105K subscribers

If rosie & Co. had an ounce of this guys talent, compassion & integrity, they’d have an ounce of it.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 4:27 pm

No, Struth.

One catches cancer from prolonged exposure to your toxic ego. Not AIDS.

Now go be a histrionic diva somewhere else.

#PrimaDonna

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 18, 2022 4:28 pm

feelthebern — the part of the story that has always been bullshit is that they were ‘deployed’ (used) as a weapon.

That’s right.
That’s still up for debate.
What’s not up for debate was if plod had the things there in the first place.

calli
calli
February 18, 2022 4:30 pm

feelthebern — the part of the story that has always been bullshit is that they were ‘deployed’ (used) as a weapon.

The English language is a marvellous thing. It can mean whatever you want it to mean.

Just ask the ABC.

duncanm
duncanm
February 18, 2022 4:30 pm

ftb – agreed.

Struth
February 18, 2022 4:31 pm

I ban bird from the furniture shop and SRR has been more correct than incorrect than you. And really the jury is still out on most things she says. I take and process information from all and choose what I think is right based on facts, not who presents them.
Reserchable facts.
You, typical of a lazy unionised rail worker, prefer to just knock everyone who is doing the work you’re too lazy and too scared to do.
Your denialism is now pathetic.
Do you deny a WEF grab for power globally?
Simple question.
Yes or no.

Struth
February 18, 2022 4:31 pm

researchable

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 18, 2022 4:33 pm

Those who fall for Fellowes’ airbrushed and romanticised version of history are hardly in a position to credibly critique anything today.

Some of the amusing aspects of Downton Abbey and its fellow depictions are that most people seem to have a vicarious experience with them.

So Downtown Deirdre and her mates imagine themselves as the ones on the screen with the maid, money, men of much money and good looks chasing them, and so on – not the scullery maid downstairs working in the kitchens cutting up chickens and washing pans for 12 hours a day.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 4:33 pm

You, typical of a lazy unionised rail worker, prefer to just knock everyone who is doing the work you’re too lazy and too scared to do.

Poor Struth.

It really is a miniscule man whose first resort must always be the personal…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 18, 2022 4:34 pm

On Covid, my experiences have totally different from my husband’s. We have both been sick, he more with general prostration and severe nasal streaming, being driven mad by that, all head cold stuff but extreme. I have been in pain across my shoulders, had a lot of lassitude, plus a very bad headache during two nights. Mild sneezing with a developing dry cough, dizziness and the strange dreamlike teary stuff.
It’s as though we have both been on weirdly different acid trips. His overt, mine interiorised and systemic.

Reminiscent.

132andBush
132andBush
February 18, 2022 4:36 pm

“Do you think this dress makes my arse look big?”

Advice on how to answer this question is welcome.

That moment when truth hangs in the air in exactly the same way that bricks don’t.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 18, 2022 4:36 pm

One way or another, if Craig Kelly keeps asking, he’ll get the full story.
I imagine he’s getting inundated from supporters about it.

There’s now been confirmation these devices were there.
So now let’s see if/how they were used.
No point getting attached to an outcome.
Let’s see what he drags out of the AFP.

Vicki
Vicki
February 18, 2022 4:36 pm

Local RFS brigade has just notified our district that, because of the Head Office RFS requirement for vaccination status to be declared (& unvaccinated to be only allowed to participate in “emergencies”), there have been a significant number of resignations – some of members who have had decades of experience and dangerous service – particularly in the last serious fire season.

It is beyond belief that the paid bureaucrats in control of the RFS could decimate the volunteer brigades through such massive stupidity. The anger around here is white hot.

It says everything about the deterioration of this country under the burden of the intellectually challenged bureaucracy.

duncanm
duncanm
February 18, 2022 4:38 pm

Vicki – I do wonder if there’s the same push as in Vic — force the RFS equivalent to go professional: more union members and more graft.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 4:40 pm

Vicki – I do wonder if there’s the same push as in Vic — force the RFS equivalent to go professional: more union members and more graft.

Just a tad less blatant than in Vicco, if that is the case…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 18, 2022 4:41 pm

Top Ender, every woman wants Mr. Darcy to fall in love with her. A biological truth.

Struth
February 18, 2022 4:41 pm

You’re holding people back like Frank does Choo choo man.
Disgusting.
You are denying common knowledge.
You are denying the bleeding obvious.
I understand you’re in your own little prison over there in WA and been fed non stop shit, but here’s some news for you, none of this has ever been about a virus.
I know, hard to believe isn’t it!!!

Stick with me here.

Water is wet and the sky is blue.
And the “vaccines” kill.

I’ll leave it there…not too much at once for the little fat controller.

srr
srr
February 18, 2022 4:42 pm

Someone had to say it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5U7ZiYS_20&t=26s

Jan 14, 2021
Samson

His intelligence & work ethic is also something to be admired.

Vicki
Vicki
February 18, 2022 4:42 pm

On Covid, my experiences have totally different from my husband’s.

I suppose I shouldn’t go down this road, but I am curious. Did you not take any medication for your symptoms early in their development? Aspirin? Steroid inhaler? Anti-histamines? Quercetin?

shatterzzz
February 18, 2022 4:42 pm

The English were the worst when it came to sharing the wealth. Look at those houses with 80 bedrooms while the average peasant would be lucky to get a third of their born children to adulthood. Those houses make the average tech billionaire’s tacky shack look like nothing.

The GILDED AGE is set in 19th century New York and the clash of new/old money in America .. not England ..

Zatara
Zatara
February 18, 2022 4:43 pm

LRAD information

For information. Not an argument regarding anything that did or did not happen at the march.

Struth
February 18, 2022 4:44 pm

On Covid, my experiences have totally different from my husband’s.

Hypochondriacs have never been able to get their stories stright.

JMH
JMH
February 18, 2022 4:44 pm

It is beyond belief that the paid bureaucrats in control of the RFS could decimate the volunteer brigades through such massive stupidity. The anger around here is white hot.

Pick the scab and I think you will find anger is palpable in the CFA as well, Vicki.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 4:47 pm

Do you deny a WEF grab for power globally?

Would you mind telling them to put some armbands on?

I’ve seen a lot of latent authoritarianism from a lot of political folks from a wide range of the ‘nominal’ political spectrum in the names of their various agendas, and even more from various bureaucracies, labour organisations and NGOs.

All of whom seem to broadly agree with each other, yet still conflict.

In order to give you the simple yes/no answer you demand, I need a clearer method of identifying the WEF whom you believe are going to murdergenocide us all and despoil and enslave our precious bodily fluids.

Winston Smith
February 18, 2022 4:47 pm

Vicki:
Here ya go – I just copied the address in the search bar, then wrote “Here ya go” highlighted it then clicked on ‘link’ just below the word ‘comment’ and copied the address into the dialogue box which appears.
There are probably better explanations in the “About” box at the top of this page.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 18, 2022 4:47 pm

Covid is for pooftas.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 18, 2022 4:47 pm

A good point from my twitter box.
Jeffrey Epstein never had his accounts frozen.
Even when he was in custody.

JMH
JMH
February 18, 2022 4:48 pm

The GILDED AGE is set in 19th century New York and the clash of new/old money in America .. not England ..

And whilst channel-hopping, I noted a promo for the show has a high class person of colour. I won’t be watching this bullshit.

Vicki
Vicki
February 18, 2022 4:48 pm

Vicki – I do wonder if there’s the same push as in Vic — force the RFS equivalent to go professional: more union members and more graft.

duncan – I don’t think so, and I don’t think our Captain does either. The overall impression is that the ruling is simply in line with the NSW government protocol re vaccination. That’s it. Simple and incredibly stupid – like everything they do.

Incidentally, during the last horrific fires the RFS bureaucracy would not allow the local brigade to back burn. It cause tremendous angst among the volunteers who understood the direction the fires would take – from local experience. It was also a matter of fury that the paid RFS would disappear at the end of “working hours”, while the volunteers would labour on through the night at considerable risk to themselves. Their efforts saved property.

local oaf
February 18, 2022 4:50 pm

duncanm says:
February 18, 2022 at 4:24 pm

feelthebern — the part of the story that has always been bullshit is that they were ‘deployed’ (used) as a weapon.

The problem for me is that the LRAD devices were there at all.

Suggests the AFP have bought into the whole hysterical Jan6, insurrection, far right, nazi, racists narrative spun by the left/MSM.
If they show up expecting violence from the public, how little or trivial a trigger might see them using extreme force.

We could see an Australian Ashli Babbitt or Roseanne Boyland if our plod are hyped up too far before they even arrive at the scene of any protest.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 18, 2022 4:50 pm

On Covid, my experiences have totally different from my husband’s. We have both been sick, he more with general prostration and severe nasal streaming, being driven mad by that, all head cold stuff but extreme. I have been in pain across my shoulders, had a lot of lassitude, plus a very bad headache during two nights. Mild sneezing with a developing dry cough, dizziness and the strange dreamlike teary stuff.

I had very little symptomatology – got a driveby PCR due to a 1/10 scratchy throat – came back positive – now day 5 and been asymptomatic for the last 4.

Vicki
Vicki
February 18, 2022 4:51 pm

Here ya go – I just copied the address in the search bar, then wrote “Here ya go” highlighted it then clicked on ‘link’ just below the word ‘comment’ and copied the address into the dialogue box which appears.

Good heavens! Does that work? I am digitally challenged, as many here will have guessed.

Dot
Dot
February 18, 2022 4:51 pm

The great crime writer Gladys Mitchell refers to how maybe a third of children born to English agricultural workers would live to adulthood. This was in the 1930s.

That seems like BS.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 4:52 pm

been asymptomatic for the last 4.

Do you have a cream for that?

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 18, 2022 4:53 pm

It is beyond belief that the paid bureaucrats in control of the RFS could decimate the volunteer brigades through such massive stupidity. The anger around here is white hot.

So far, the CFS has avoided a mandate, save for their paid staff, which they implemented immediately upon a FULLY VAXXED staffer bringing COVID into their main airbase. It cost several aircrew I know their careers.

Struth
February 18, 2022 4:53 pm

In order to give you the simple yes/no answer you demand, I need a clearer method of identifying the WEF whom you believe are going to murdergenocide us all and despoil and enslave our precious bodily fluids.

And the thought of five minutes research doesn’t even pop into your head.
As I said.
One lazy fucktard.
Stay with the unionised trains, you’d have to work too hard in trucks.

Winston Smith
February 18, 2022 4:54 pm

Duncanm:

They are NOT some infra/ultra-sonic boogeyman.

Which is why I put the two links to the I/s & U/s apps up – so people would download them and get some proof.
Here they are again.
Infrasound.
Ultrasound.
Let me check that the links work.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 18, 2022 4:55 pm

Covid is for pooftas.

Quite correct.
I felt a little queer for a few days.

Struth
February 18, 2022 4:55 pm

I had very little symptomatology – got a driveby PCR due to a 1/10 scratchy throat – came back positive – now day 5 and been asymptomatic for the last 4.

Why would anyone get themselves tested? Don’t you know when you are sick with a cold?

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 18, 2022 4:55 pm

The RFS/CFA is just another aspect of Civil Society that must be displaced and replaced with the State.

Vicki
Vicki
February 18, 2022 4:56 pm

I had very little symptomatology – got a driveby PCR due to a 1/10 scratchy throat – came back positive – now day 5 and been asymptomatic for the last 4.

I was the same – but husband’s throat was actually sore and he developed a tight chest around day 7 ( we are fairly sure of source & time of infection). Because of the latter, he took aspirin and used the asthma inhaler every 4 hours for 24 hours. Some 12 hours later he was fine.

Both of us are unvaccinated, and will remain so.

132andBush
132andBush
February 18, 2022 4:57 pm

“Anything to get us out of this” Rosie.

rosie says:
February 18, 2022 at 3:55 pm
Any updates on the injuries sustained by the three million protestors left writhing in agony on the parliamentary lawns after Scott’s Stormtroopers unleashed the sonic weapons?

An event you would not have the guts to even go to.

Winston Smith
February 18, 2022 4:57 pm

Yep – they work.
Remember that very loud, very low frequency sound can generate feelings of fear and distress. So it’s not just the higher pitched sounds, it’s the lower pitched sounds as well.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 18, 2022 4:57 pm

Why would anyone get themselves tested? Don’t you know when you are sick with a cold?

Because it is one of the few vax exemptions left, and for the ‘fuck off Ive had COVID already’ position.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 4:58 pm

You are denying common knowledge.
You are denying the bleeding obvious.

Hang on- Today is Friday.

Culturally speaking, I am only supposed to be fire-and-brimstone’d about the status of my mortal soul on a Sunday.*

If you wish to pulpit-thump at me, Struth, I am going to have to ask you for evidence of your pastoral teaching qualifications.

Any denomination will do. Mein Kampf, The Communist Manifesto and the Australian Constitution don’t count…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 5:00 pm

@Flyingduk-

Struth is just pissy and looking for a fight.

He does this.

JMH
JMH
February 18, 2022 5:02 pm

The RFS/CFA is just another aspect of Civil Society that must be displaced and replaced with the State.

That is exactly what Andrewsmong did with Victoria’s CFA. It’s now a shadow of its former self. Much experience down the S-bend.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 18, 2022 5:02 pm

Both of us are unvaccinated, and will remain so.

How long will that be allowed? Sneakers has already banned them unvaxxed from attending the WA upper house in person.

Struth
February 18, 2022 5:04 pm

Because it is one of the few vax exemptions left, and for the ‘fuck off Ive had COVID already’ position.

You don’t know you’ve had covid and Novax Jockitch had covid but that didn’t help him. See, in Australia, nataural immunity has been outlawed.
I watched a video with you in it, fitting as I am in SA now where everybody is wearing a mask except for the very few………Why will you never salute the blue Australian flag again? Have you let the unconstitutional rabble now governing by force steal it from you. It’s ours, not theirs.

duncanm
duncanm
February 18, 2022 5:07 pm

Rex Angersays:
February 18, 2022 at 4:40 pm
Vicki – I do wonder if there’s the same push as in Vic — force the RFS equivalent to go professional: more union members and more graft.

Just a tad less blatant than in Vicco, if that is the case…

much less.. probably me being paranoid.

Razey
Razey
February 18, 2022 5:08 pm

local oafsays:
February 18, 2022 at 4:50 pm
duncanm says:
February 18, 2022 at 4:24 pm

feelthebern — the part of the story that has always been bullshit is that they were ‘deployed’ (used) as a weapon.

The problem for me is that the LRAD devices were there at all.

Suggests the AFP have bought into the whole hysterical Jan6, insurrection, far right, nazi, racists narrative spun by the left/MSM.
If they show up expecting violence from the public, how little or trivial a trigger might see them using extreme force.

There has been clear a escalation in government reactions to peaceful protests that don’t align with their end goals.

They are quietly banning cash and implementing a digital ID system. Blind Freddy can see where this is going, and both sides of politics are in on it.

Struth
February 18, 2022 5:08 pm

Yep – they work.
Remember that very loud, very low frequency sound can generate feelings of fear and distress. So it’s not just the higher pitched sounds, it’s the lower pitched sounds as well.

Too low and 20 000 protestors would immediately lose control of their bowels.

duncanm
duncanm
February 18, 2022 5:09 pm

Vicki – I do hear the same from every RFS volunteer I come across.

The idea of central control has gone way too far…

Struth
February 18, 2022 5:11 pm

@Flyingduk-

Struth is just pissy and looking for a fight.

He does this.

Calm down sweet cheeks. To some people it’s called direct speaking. Straight talking.
You widdle choo choo people find it a bit much, I know, but there you have it.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 5:12 pm

And the thought of five minutes research doesn’t even pop into your head.
As I said.
One lazy fucktard.

Now, where have I heard this before?

Oh! That’s right! From Ra-Ra-Ra “Perfidious J Own All The Banks But Do Your Own Research Because I Might Get Banned If I Put The Links Up” Runnybum!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 18, 2022 5:13 pm

What were the mortality rates among the middle and upper classes?

Not great.
Pre antibiotics, common diseases spread and killed kids regardless of class: diphtheria, scarlet fever – even tonsillitis.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 5:15 pm

Struth is just pissy and looking for a fight.

He does this.

Calm down sweet cheeks. To some people it’s called direct speaking. Straight talking.
You widdle choo choo people find it a bit much, I know, but there you have it.

Struth darling,

You’re not supposed to prove my point when you try to shoot it down.

We’ve been through this before, you know…

Runnybum
Runnybum
February 18, 2022 5:16 pm

Johanna, over 50,000 Englishmen didn’t join the Waffen SS.
So shut the fuck up.

Struth
February 18, 2022 5:16 pm

Culturally speaking, I am only supposed to be fire-and-brimstone’d about the status of my mortal soul on a Sunday.*

Thou art finds your musings simplistic and decieptful in their diversionary attempts to say nothing while still pressing keys and wasting thou’s pixels.

Now for a few looks of disgust as I enter a shop in compliant SA, without a mask….shock horror.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 18, 2022 5:17 pm

Dr Faustussays:
February 18, 2022 at 4:55 pm
Covid is for pooftas.

Quite correct.
I felt a little queer for a few days.

How did you find one at short notice?

Frank
Frank
February 18, 2022 5:18 pm

Do you think this dress makes my arse look big?

To which there is only one response possible.
“Positively monstrous dear.”

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 18, 2022 5:19 pm

Winston

Remember that very loud, very low frequency sound can generate feelings of fear and distress. So it’s not just the higher pitched sounds, it’s the lower pitched sounds as well.

Not even necessarily very loud. Recall the many complaints from people living near wind farms.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 18, 2022 5:21 pm

Too low and 20 000 protestors would immediately lose control of their bowels.

20 000 protestors taking a dump on Parliament House lawn is a fun concept. Bit hard on the gardeners though.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 18, 2022 5:23 pm

duncanmsays:
February 18, 2022 at 5:09 pm
Vicki – I do hear the same from every RFS volunteer I come across.

The idea of central control has gone way too far…

Something similar has occurred with volunteer marine rescue.

Lysander
Lysander
February 18, 2022 5:24 pm

McClown has just announced free travel between States and WA from March 3 (or 2)?

He hasn’t admitted he’s doing this because the current outbreak is unmanageable anyway.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 18, 2022 5:26 pm

Looks like the WA “Health Advice” has been told what to say by Sneakers.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 18, 2022 5:28 pm

Why will you never salute the blue Australian flag again?

Because its the Governments flag, the Red Ensign is the peoples flag

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
February 18, 2022 5:28 pm

Victoria’s Secret just dropped their Love Cloud Collection

There was a time where Victoria’s Secret only believed in size zeros and bombshell bras. But the lingerie, beauty and clothing mogul is working to revolutionize their brand.

Most recently, Victoria’s Secret launched their Love Cloud Collection.

rickw
rickw
February 18, 2022 5:31 pm

“Do you think this dress makes my arse look big?”

Advice on how to answer this question is welcome.

It’s very contextual, if you’re in Africa or South America the least dangerous answer is probably “Yes!”.

twostix
twostix
February 18, 2022 5:31 pm

rosie says:
February 18, 2022 at 3:55 pm
Any updates on the injuries sustained by the three million protestors left writhing in agony on the parliamentary lawns after Scott’s Stormtroopers unleashed the sonic weapons?

I’ll be charitable and assume its real and not merely Leigh Lowe’s alter ego, openly mocks what is happening today, that yesterday she mocked as a dumb conspiracy theory.

It’s funny but people give Lizzie shit about gilding the lilly and running an alter ego and telling tales, but she’s just having a bit of fun, there’s no malevolence really.

This one though, this one is genuinely malevolent, from day zero. The MO is well established by now.

Runnybum
Runnybum
February 18, 2022 5:33 pm

Hey choo choo man, I am thinking of becoming a train driver, do they have power steering or does somebody else turn it left or right?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 5:34 pm

Thou art finds your musings simplistic and decieptful

You are find your musings simplistic and whatful?

Best you stick to railing about how the New World Order is going to murdergenocide everyone and despoil and enslave their precious bodily fluids, Struth.

You command of Old English is nonexistent…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 5:35 pm

Hey choo choo man, I am thinking of becoming a train driver, do they have power steering or does somebody else turn it left or right?

I fear you might have pre-emptively failed your aptitude test with that question, Dribbles…

Frank
Frank
February 18, 2022 5:37 pm

Jeffrey Epstein never had his accounts frozen.

Incriminating photos of Trudeau’s mother no doubt.

Cassie of Sydney
February 18, 2022 5:38 pm

“Those who fall for Fellowes’ airbrushed and romanticised version of history are hardly in a position to credibly critique anything today.”

Julian Fellowes is a very good writer, I loved Gosford Park. However with Downton Abbey I watched one season of it and grew bored towards the end.

You wax lyrical about Agatha Christie…the “Divine Agatha” and rightly so, she was a superb writer. But most of her fiction also airbrushed and romanticised a lot of life in pre-war and post-war England. Her fiction doesn’t contain plots set in the East End of London or the slums of Manchester and Liverpool. Christie’s characters by and large come from the upper middle class and aristocracy.

Runnybum
Runnybum
February 18, 2022 5:38 pm

Choo choo man, oh bugger, so going forward or reverse & stop, slow & faster is the only skillset needed?

JC
JC
February 18, 2022 5:41 pm

This one though, this one is genuinely malevolent, from day zero. The MO is well established by now.

Do you have a starring role in Memento 2? For years and years you’ve been bullshitting on like a broken record that older generations were stealing from you and that you can’t make it in life at the level you deem appropiate because someone lived to 85 instead of 65. You’ve babbling hatred like a Hutu on drugs wielding a machete in Rwanda and you’re criticizing someone else?

Seriously, I hope you get the starring role but I’m not sure you’ll recall the lines.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 18, 2022 5:42 pm

McClown has just announced free travel between States and WA from March 3 (or 2)?

He hasn’t admitted he’s doing this because the current outbreak is unmanageable anyway.

And yet indoor 2 sq. metre rules and capacity limits and only 30 in private homes and so forth.

More governmental pissing into the wind…

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 18, 2022 5:43 pm

Boambee John says:
February 18, 2022 at 5:17 pm

8/10 on the John Inman Scale.
Uptick, with pike and anal swab.

John H.
John H.
February 18, 2022 5:44 pm

feelthebernsays:
February 18, 2022 at 3:35 pm
Never flounce on leg day.

My quads are still a little sore from 3 days ago(split routine). Takes me .5 hour for the leg routine. I do legs first because one must never skip legs day. Unfortunately another bout of insomnia is making gains nigh impossible.

srr
srr
February 18, 2022 5:44 pm

Seriously?

Rex Anger says:
February 18, 2022 at 4:33 pm

You, typical of a lazy unionised rail worker, prefer to just knock everyone who is doing the work you’re too lazy and too scared to do.

Poor Struth.

It really is a miniscule man whose first resort must always be the personal…

This from Rex Anger who’s been trying to fit into JC’s ugly Italian suit since he arrived, personally attacking people with just plain stupid attempts at even more ridiculous nicknames than JC with his pathetic ‘signature’ at belittling those he/they brand as, “Not One Of Us!”.

You are just plain nasty.
Even those you do get along with you mostly get along in sharing hate of others and then not for what they’ve said or done but what you hate filled mob LIE, because, that’s all you got.

The main difference between the old cat and what it became the longer Sinc had it, was that people could argue, dispute and bitterly disagree with each other but no one let anyone get away with bald faced lies.

Mortal enemies would have their best buds pull their heads in when that line was crossed because that instantly killed the integrity, and so, the value of the blog.

Now it’s just endless, ‘Watch me repeat the masters lies more solidly than any of those weak mortals with a functioning conscience.’, and they insanely think that means they’re, “WINNING!”.

JMH
JMH
February 18, 2022 5:44 pm

It’s funny but people give Lizzie shit about gilding the lilly and running an alter ego and telling tales, but she’s just having a bit of fun, there’s no malevolence really.

Really? I think there may be a number of us who may beg to differ.

Old bloke
Old bloke
February 18, 2022 5:44 pm

feelthebern says:
February 18, 2022 at 4:36 pm

One way or another, if Craig Kelly keeps asking, he’ll get the full story.
I imagine he’s getting inundated from supporters about it.

There’s now been confirmation these devices were there.
So now let’s see if/how they were used.
No point getting attached to an outcome.
Let’s see what he drags out of the AFP.

FTB – Craig Kelly directed his questions to the Speaker, as the person responsible for the Parliamentary precinct. Malcolm Roberts asked the AFP Commissioner, he’s going to report back sometime.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 18, 2022 5:45 pm

Incriminating photos of Trudeau’s mother no doubt.

She did like to party.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
February 18, 2022 5:55 pm

It’s funny but people give Lizzie shit about gilding the lilly and running an alter ego and telling tales, but she’s just having a bit of fun, there’s no malevolence really.

Not “malevolence”, but she knows exactly what she’s doing, e.g:

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
January 5, 2022 at 1:10 pm

Hairy thinks I’m stubborn too. You didn’t saying anything about Business Class did you? he enquires anxiously as he peers around the door disapprovingly at me blogging. You know that will just bring them all down on your head again. If you do, then leave me out of it.

And when people respond we get the confected melodrama. CS Lewis had that behaviour pegged in The Screwtape Letters:
“…saying things with the express purpose of offending and yet having a grievance when offence is taken”.

srr
srr
February 18, 2022 5:55 pm

twostix says:
February 18, 2022 at 5:31 pm

rosie says:
February 18, 2022 at 3:55 pm
Any updates on the injuries sustained by the three million protestors left writhing in agony on the parliamentary lawns after Scott’s Stormtroopers unleashed the sonic weapons?

I’ll be charitable and assume its real and not merely Leigh Lowe’s alter ego, openly mocks what is happening today, that yesterday she mocked as a dumb conspiracy theory.

It’s funny but people give Lizzie shit about gilding the lilly and running an alter ego and telling tales, but she’s just having a bit of fun, there’s no malevolence really.

This one though, this one is genuinely malevolent, from day zero. The MO is well established by now.

And lets never forget, lets always remember, rosie/notafan then, argued unapologetically, not only for the ‘right’, but ‘justice’ & ‘wisdom’ of the NHS & EU DEATH PANELS to sentence children to death despite the parents having the will & means to seek treatment from other doctors & hospitals.

This is fully in line with rosie/notafan ‘educating’ the world in accepting the ‘justice’ of all the deadly ‘Covid’ Mandates, oh, and hr being proudly, personally invested in the Big Pharma Companies making their (& her), killing having the Govts of The Globe force their vile, killer products on the world.

calli
calli
February 18, 2022 5:55 pm

Christie’s characters by and large come from the upper middle class and aristocracy.

The Country House set – Gosford Park was a fine satire on that particular genre of Murder Most Horrid. I loved it too.

When Christie strayed into the world of gangsters and Soho speakeasies she was on less solid ground. She was far more at home in the salons of the Big House and villages of country England. Her forays into the world of archaeology were good – here she had first hand knowledge courtesy of her second husband, Max Mallowan.

Her short stories are hit and miss – I enjoy the harlequin series.

John H.
John H.
February 18, 2022 5:55 pm

JMHsays:
February 18, 2022 at 5:44 pm
It’s funny but people give Lizzie shit about gilding the lilly and running an alter ego and telling tales, but she’s just having a bit of fun, there’s no malevolence really.

Really? I think there may be a number of us who may beg to differ.

She was definitely malevolent towards me and that arose from comments years ago that everyone else would have let go after a day or two. She bears grudges and that is one reason why so many people are angry with her. What I don’t understand is there appears to be a distinct lack of self-awareness because when so many people are attacking the attacked person needs to reflect on the possibility that perhaps the problem lies with them. I’ve never read her doing that.

srr
srr
February 18, 2022 5:58 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
February 18, 2022 at 1:54 pm
[…]which was the 82% of women in early pregnancy were not losing their babies due to the vaxx. […]

No wonder you & Cassie are a team.

Who gives a shit about those ‘18%’ of babies killed by Govt Mandated Shots of Evil shit?

Obviously not you.

Just as Cassie doesn’t give a shit about Ukrainians’ offspring cos you know, ‘it’s in their blood’ to not respect Cassie ‘cos of her blood’.

The Nazis didn’t manage to kill all the Gypsies, Slavs, Cripples et al, but targeting any group for death because their existence offends those who consider themselves a ‘better class’, is evil, no matter how ‘few’ the evil bastards manage to off.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 18, 2022 6:01 pm

Lizzie certainly kept and settled scores. That hardly made her Robinson Crusoe around here.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 18, 2022 6:01 pm

They have done a fantastic con job in comvincing gullible people like Gab that they were kind, but slightly flawed, aristocrats.

Gab is hereby sentenced to humming the Internationale whilst watching Maxine Peake in The Village.

Delta A
Delta A
February 18, 2022 6:02 pm

I hope Elizabeth has someone to help while her husband is very ill and she is covid positive. Time to call in a few family favours.

Best wishes to both of you for a full and quick recovery.

calli
calli
February 18, 2022 6:04 pm

Must be Friday night. New OT tomorrow. Six hours and a whole new, blank page. It’s a privilege, you know.

This one’s being flogged like Napoleon’s poor old horse. 😀

Winston Smith
February 18, 2022 6:05 pm

From Net Zero Samizdat:
A roundup of AGW stories.
Some of the sites are paywalled, but there’s a printer friendly expansion at the bottom of this link.

1) UK factories at risk of shutting down for good as energy prices soar
Politics Home, 15 February 2022
2) Ukraine crisis: UK ‘must wake up’ and ‘tap into £1trn gas reserves’ to avoid Russia threat
Daily Express, 15 February 2022
3) Tim Newark: Fracking ban means we’re missing out on energy goldmine
Daily Express, 16 February 2022
4) Tim Worstall: So, shale gas doesn’t work? Really?
Net Zero Watch, 16 February 2022
5) EU’s Russia nightmare: Putin supply squeeze to send eurozone plummeting, ECB warns
Daily Express, 15 February 2022
6) Woke headteacher forces pupils to go vegetarian ‘to stop climate change’
Daily Mail, 16 February 2022
7) Joe Biden and US Democrats plan fossil fuel tax holiday to prevent midterm election debacle
Daily Mail, 15 February 2022
8) New Study: ‘Worst-case’ climate predictions are ‘no longer plausible’
Daily Mail, 15 February 2022

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 18, 2022 6:06 pm

How you do love things to be all your way, JMC. I am sick in bed. This is not a normal day and if I decide to speak to someone I like here you can rack off and take your toxicity with you.
I won’t be here as part of general engagement. Just look at Johanna’s vile spiel of less than half-truths further back and the general approval they receive to comprehend why.

I am happy to provide my experiential Covid run down as a community service. For today.

By the way, what has Johanna ever done in the past ten years except complain about me? Where are her publications, her community service, her achievements post her brilliant career? Only asking because she makes such a point about dissing mine.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 18, 2022 6:07 pm

Malcolm Roberts asked the AFP Commissioner, he’s going to report back sometime.

The AFP commissioner did via the ABC press release…I mean reporting…
Unless they responded to Roberts beforehand it shows absolute contempt.

Cassie of Sydney
February 18, 2022 6:08 pm

“srrsays:
February 18, 2022 at 5:58 pm”

“The Nazis didn’t manage to kill all the Gypsies, Slavs, Cripples et al”

Once again, the resident lunatic has mentioned my name so I’ll respond. Interesting that the lunatic has omitted one group of people, the group that the Nazis almost succeeded in annihilating….European Jewry. Freudian slip lunatic?

I think it’s time you stepped away from the computer and took some more medication.

My response above has been rather polite, the next response won’t be.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
February 18, 2022 6:08 pm

Malcolm Roberts is collecting evidence of injuries and sickness being experienced by protestors from last weekend apparently. First hand accounts suggest more than ‘sound waves’ were being used.

Hopefully the truth ultimately comes out.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 18, 2022 6:11 pm

I hope Elizabeth has someone to help while her husband is very ill and she is covid positive. Time to call in a few family favours.

Best wishes to both of you for a full and quick recovery.

Second that one, Delta A.

Cassie of Sydney
February 18, 2022 6:11 pm

“Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
February 18, 2022 at 6:06 pm”

Get well Lizzie….you have friends here.

JMH
JMH
February 18, 2022 6:13 pm

She was definitely malevolent towards me and that arose from comments years ago that everyone else would have let go after a day or two. She bears grudges and that is one reason why so many people are angry with her. What I don’t understand is there appears to be a distinct lack of self-awareness because when so many people are attacking the attacked person needs to reflect on the possibility that perhaps the problem lies with them. I’ve never read her doing that.

The woman is malevolent, even viscous to anybody who challenges her. I think there is an underlying psychiatric problem. She needs professional counselling.

If you were on Sinc’s blog – there is a similarity between this woman and the disturbed “Ellie”. Both seeking recognition. Both seeking acceptance. Both seeking accolades to boost a seriously compromised self-esteem. In Lizzie’s case, the upticking bullshit is indicative of a disturbed individual.

Runnybum
Runnybum
February 18, 2022 6:14 pm

Cassie, serious question, why don’t you move to Israel?
I expect an insult, but a serious question?

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 18, 2022 6:14 pm

If you have any trust in the plod after the last two years, you are a total retard.
Back the blue?
That’s some funny shit.

Indolent
Indolent
February 18, 2022 6:14 pm
srr
srr
February 18, 2022 6:16 pm

On the topic of “Class” – actual “Class”, the sort that naturally commands respect, it oozes from both these men –

The Sixth Sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNdVVLqC3mI

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Winston Smith
February 18, 2022 6:16 pm

Boambee John:

Remember that very loud, very low frequency sound can generate feelings of fear and distress. So it’s not just the higher pitched sounds, it’s the lower pitched sounds as well.

Not even necessarily very loud. Recall the many complaints from people living near wind farms.

I was kinda sorta hoping that someone would put a windfarm somewhere along the way to Brisbane which is why I downloaded the apps.
Alas and alack, no-one did.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
February 18, 2022 6:17 pm

By the way, what has Johanna ever done in the past ten years except complain about me? Where are her publications, her community service, her achievements post her brilliant career?

Presumably under wraps, like those of countless other Cats with enough class not to showboat about them incessantly.
I’m willing to assume, without needing to read vast reams of autobiographical self-approbation, that the vast majority of Cats have some or all of the following:
(a) experience of hardships and setbacks;
(b) commendable qualifications;
(c ) success in life;
(d) a track record of generosity and public contributions;
(e ) affluence.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 18, 2022 6:17 pm

Roberts-Smith’s lawyer suggests alleged threat to shoot soldier was warning about Taliban
Michaela Whitbourn
By Michaela Whitbourn
February 18, 2022 — 12.23pm

A barrister acting for war veteran Ben Roberts-Smith has suggested the decorated former soldier did not threaten to shoot a comrade, as has been alleged in the Federal Court, but warned the soldier he was at risk of being “shot by the enemy” if his performance did not improve.

Person 1, an SAS soldier whose identity cannot be revealed for national security reasons, has given evidence in Mr Roberts-Smith’s defamation case that the former soldier told him in 2006 that “if your performance doesn’t improve on our next patrol you’re going to get a bullet in the back of the head”.

He told the court he interpreted the comment as a death threat and “it made me fearful for my own personal safety”.

Person 1 alleged Mr Roberts-Smith bullied and undermined him for years, including pushing him in the chest during a later incident in 2010 and telling him to “get out of my way, c–t, or I’ll kill you”.

The serving soldier is one of a number of current and former SAS officers giving evidence in the Federal Court for The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Canberra Times in the defamation suit filed against the mastheads by Mr Roberts-Smith.

Mr Roberts-Smith alleges a series of articles published in 2018 portray him as a war criminal and a bully. He denies all wrongdoing and has said he had raised legitimate concerns about Person 1’s performance as a soldier. The media outlets are seeking to rely on a defence of truth.

During cross-examination on Friday, one of the barristers acting for Mr Roberts-Smith, Bruce McClintock, SC, showed Person 1 a written statement from 2013 in which he set out a bullying complaint about the decorated soldier.

“There’s nothing in this statement from 2013 that indicates that he used the words bullet in your head … that’s correct, isn’t it?” Mr McClintock said.

“The encounter is listed, but the words specifically used weren’t,” Person 1 replied. He denied that he had fabricated the encounter he described in his evidence in the Federal Court.

Mr McClintock said Person 1’s written complaint recorded that Mr Roberts-Smith “burst into the team room one day while I was watching a movie and accused me of still not being up to his standard for an SAS operator”.

“He then informed me on the next job I may get shot if my performance does not improve,” Mr McClintock said the complaint recorded.

Person 1 agreed that he had “performance issues at that time” but said Mr Roberts-Smith was a “fellow trooper, it’s not really his position” to critique his performance.

He has previously agreed that he made a mistake during a mission in Afghanistan in June 2006, during which he failed to bring oil for his machine gun and the weapon stopped a number of times while he was firing it. He has also agreed that this put the lives of his fellow soldiers at risk.

“What you recorded is consistent with my client saying to you that ‘if you don’t improve your performance you’re going to get shot by the enemy’,” Mr McClintock said.

“No,” Person 1 replied.

“I suggest to you that that’s what it does mean?” Mr McClintock pressed. “That’s incorrect,” Person 1 replied.

“My client never said anything to you beyond ‘if you don’t improve you’re going to be in trouble out there and you’ll be in danger’? That’s what he said, isn’t it?” Mr McClintock said.

“No,” Person 1 replied.

Person 1 said that any soldier could have been shot by the enemy. The court has previously heard that Person 1’s performance reviews improved when he was moved out of Mr Roberts-Smith’s team in July 2006.

He rejected Mr McClintock’s suggestion that he made up bullying allegations as a way of dealing with Mr Roberts-Smith saying he was “no good”, and denied that he tried to blame others.

“I think it outlines in my [performance] reports that I take responsibility for my actions and seek improvement,” Person 1 said.

The trial continues.

JC
JC
February 18, 2022 6:23 pm

Runnybum says:
February 18, 2022 at 6:14 pm

Cassie, serious question, why don’t you move to Israel?

Why don’t you move to a banana plantation?

I expect an insult, but a serious question?

I expect an insult but a serious question?

Cassie of Sydney
February 18, 2022 6:25 pm

I can’t access the whole story because it’s behind a paywall at The Oz.

“Transgender swimmer blitzes US rivals

The top-ranked swimmer, who was rated 462nd as a male, beat HIS nearest rival by more than seven seconds in their final.”

When are women going to stand up and speak out about this bullshit?

We live in clown world.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 18, 2022 6:26 pm

Why don’t you move to a banana plantation?

I thought he was taking the tonsure and moving to Nippon.

Delta A
Delta A
February 18, 2022 6:27 pm

That moment when truth hangs in the air in exactly the same way that bricks don’t.

Incorporating one of my favourite lines from DA.

I love people who quote him. 🙂

John H.
John H.
February 18, 2022 6:27 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
February 18, 2022 at 6:25 pm
I can’t access the whole story because it’s behind a paywall at The Oz.

“Transgender swimmer blitzes US rivals

The top-ranked swimmer, who was rated 462nd as a male, beat HIS nearest rival by more than seven seconds in their final.”

When are women going to stand up and speak out about this bullshit?

We live in clown world.

It is so ridiculous it will stop. The problem is when that will happen.

srr
srr
February 18, 2022 6:30 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
February 18, 2022 at 6:11 pm

“Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
February 18, 2022 at 6:06 pm”

Get well Lizzie….you have friends here.

Then why don’t you email her, personally, as a friend and tell her that, like you do when plotting a cat pack attack with her?

Because you want the individuals who speak their own mind & not some Globalist Agenda Items, pack attacked yet again & lyingly tagged as ‘friendless’ as a warning to others who may want to join them in freely wandering off the reservation of the ‘acceptable narratives’.

JC
JC
February 18, 2022 6:32 pm

USSR

Those drugs you’re on to help with the delusions? They aren’t working.

Gab
Gab
February 18, 2022 6:32 pm

lotocotisays:
February 18, 2022 at 6:01 pm
They have done a fantastic con job in comvincing gullible people like Gab that they were kind, but slightly flawed, aristocrats.

Wow. Someone thinks I’m gullible. Who said that – no wait, I don’t care.

Gab is hereby sentenced to humming the Internationale whilst watching Maxine Peake in The Village.

What? A-gain?!!! Fine but I’m wearing the red stilettos this time.

Razey
Razey
February 18, 2022 6:32 pm

lotocotisays:
February 18, 2022 at 6:26 pm
Why don’t you move to a banana plantation?

I thought he was taking the tonsure and moving to Nippon.

I don’t believe I had any part in that argument thread….

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 18, 2022 6:33 pm

Just received a very caring phone call from a friendly Irish nurse. I am on their radar because of my age, she tells me, but you don’t sound old and sick, she concludes. Not a frail aged person, I agree as we discuss my symptoms, but I thank her for her cheerful call regardless. Passes the time, along with the latest Spectator.

Cassie of Sydney
February 18, 2022 6:33 pm

“Then why don’t you email her, personally, as a friend and tell her that, like you do when plotting a cat pack attack with her?”

I warned you slag heap. I do email Lizzie…regularly. And no, we don’t plan “cat attacks”. Have you checked your medication lately? Maybe you need to either stop taking your pills or take more pills.

Now fuck off

Cassie of Sydney
February 18, 2022 6:35 pm

“JCsays:
February 18, 2022 at 6:32 pm
USSR

Those drugs you’re on to help with the delusions? They aren’t working.”

Clearly not. The slag heap needs to either stop the drugs or take more.

Cassie of Sydney
February 18, 2022 6:37 pm

“It is so ridiculous it will stop. The problem is when that will happen.”

What it’s doing is destroying women’s sport.

John H.
John H.
February 18, 2022 6:40 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
February 18, 2022 at 6:37 pm
“It is so ridiculous it will stop. The problem is when that will happen.”

What it’s doing is destroying women’s sport.

That’s over the top Cassie. It is only at the margins so I’m not that worried about it. In time there will be a correction. Social causes so often go too far and usually a correction kicks in.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 18, 2022 6:41 pm

It is so ridiculous it will stop. The problem is when that will happen.

Don’t under estimate how college coaches are on board with this.
You should see some of the “freshmen” at Stanford for the coming year.
The woker the school, the harder they have recruited the trans students.
They all have performance linked bonuses so they are going nuts on this.
You get the right recruit, you’ve got 4 years of KPIs & the related dosh in the bag.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 18, 2022 6:42 pm

Freudian slip lunatic?

Nah.
The Doctor’s Plot still provokes tiny fists of rage.

Frank
Frank
February 18, 2022 6:44 pm

I’m willing to assume, without needing to read vast reams of autobiographical self-approbation, that the vast majority of Cats have some or all of the following:
(a) experience of hardships and setbacks;
(b) commendable qualifications;
(c ) success in life;
(d) a track record of generosity and public contributions;
(e ) affluence.

Guess I’m fucked then.

Zatara
Zatara
February 18, 2022 6:45 pm

Cold War-era East Berlin had armed checkpoints — now Canada’s capital city Ottawa does too

“The secured area includes almost 100 checkpoints that will have police presence to ensure that those seeking entry to that secure area for a unlawful reason, such as joining a protest, cannot enter the downtown core,” acting Ottawa Police Chief Steve Bell said Thursday.

The Trudeau Reich, where joining protests (at least ones again his policies) are verboten.

“It’s surreal,” said witness Herbert Hildebrandt. “I feel like I am on the wrong side of the wall in Berlin in 1989.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 18, 2022 6:45 pm

Transgender swimmer Lia Thomas blitzes US rivals at college championships

By Tom Crystal
5 minutes ago February 18, 2022
343 Comments

Transgender athlete Lia Thomas has blitzed her rivals on the way to victory in the 500-yard (457m) freestyle event at the Ivy League Championships, at Harvard University on Thursday.

The University of Pennsylvania swimmer won her first ever individual title at the college event by more than seven seconds over the second-placed finisher, clocking a time of 4min 37.32sec.

Her time established a new record at the pool, breaking the mark set by 2012 Olympian Kate Ziegler.

ESPN reports that Penn team-mates Catherine Buroker, who finished second, and fourth-placed Anna Kalandadze applauded as the No.1-ranked Thomas received her medal.

The 22-year-old had previously competed for the university as Will Thomas for three years and was ranked No.462 in the NCAA.

Thomas began the transition to a female in 2019 and has undergone two years of hormone replacement as part of the process.

In early December, she recorded the best performances of the year at university level, in the 200-yard (183m) freestyle (1min 41.93sec) and in the 500-yard freestyle (4min 34.06sec).

The impressive feats have stirred controversy about the fairness of her being allowed to compete against biological women in a women’s event.

Some team-mates have spoken out anonymously against her inclusion in the women’s team.

US swimming authorities have instituted a requirement that transgender women must suppress testosterone levels for three years before they are allowed to compete, but college’s governing body the NCAA has so far ruled Thomas will be able to compete at its championships in March.

The Women’s Sports Policy Working Group say the recently instituted rules are insufficient, especially in cases where an athlete has begun her transition after puberty.

Thomas has talked about her transition, saying she is “thrilled to be able to continue to swim. I love to compete … I’m very proud of my times and my ability to keep swimming and keep competing.”

miltonf
miltonf
February 18, 2022 6:45 pm

Justine was always an entitled little dauphine who got everything because of his vile parents. Turned out to be even more of a psychopath than I thought possible. Dynasties and democracy are a contradiction.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 18, 2022 6:46 pm

I expect an insult but a serious question?

Can’t leave a matzo ball like that hanging. Onya JC.

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