2,227 thoughts on “Open Thread – Weekend 26 Feb 2022”

  1. Anyone else watching the second season of Raised by Wolves …

    Only watched 2/001 so far. Already lacking something series one had.
    (Not just the SFX budget.)


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  2. NRL trials are glorified training runs.
    Especially for forwards to get match fit.
    From what I’ve seen this evening, the Dogs pack is big, slow & some are still carrying the Christmas pudding.


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  3. How about reality. Stalin took those countries over after the Yalta carve up. Poland , Hungary, Czechs and the rest don’t want anything to do with Russia and have begged the west to join their defensive grouping – NATO.

    Good for them.

    NATO is no longer fit for purpose and the US is becoming a somewhat unreliable ally (“harmless as an enemy, treacherous as a friend”, Bernard Lewis).

    The Europeans need to be prepared to defend themselves against Russian aggression.

    The Hungarians are intending to adopt Macron’s suggestion of W. European strategic independence.

    That’s the way they need to go.


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  4. “JCsays:
    February 28, 2022 at 7:37 pm
    I must be in a coma, because I can’t recall all those boring attacks on Liz and the countless exchanges.”

    I’m not in a coma and I can recall them. And they were always unprovoked attacks on Lizzie.


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  5. DoverBeach:

    If this is correct, it looks like they are securing the south east along the Dnieper from Mykolaiv-Kherson to the Dnieper Bend and then across to Kharkov

    Sorry, that ones taken a couple of days ago.
    However you can have it “for negotiation purposes” as a separate entry in the comp.


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  6. The New World Order of the 1990s promised so much. But it’s difficult to avoid the impression that contained within its Cold War-framing are the seeds of our current crisis. There was a chance to bring Russia into the fold, rather than isolate it as an enemy. And it was missed.from Spiked


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  7. Why is NATO apparently so determined to antagonise Russia by creeping closer and closer to the Russian borders?

    NATO is a defensive alliance, although Daniel Greenberg last night correctly observed:

    NATO represents no real threat to anyone or anything. NATO indeed is barely functional. Like most western institutions.

    Which is obvious. Thus the whole NATO stuff is garbage. On the other hand there were signs that Ukraine was moving closer to the wet European model of politics. That has now changed, violently.


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  8. JC, those countries are already members of NATO…as are the Baltic states.

    Yeah, I know Cassie. There seems to be bullshit being posted about how NATO is an offensive association.


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  9. Who’s going to the first Cat to post about the….drum roll….”Reaper” ?
    If you come across it, it’s already been debunked quicker than the Ghost.


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  10. Feelthebern:

    Dnieper from Mykolaiv-Kherson to the Dnieper Bend and then across to Kharkov

    Dover, does the topography support that?

    Sort of, but the Dniepr River offers a securable, defensible border.
    Mind you, The Ukraine would have to give up about 45% of her territory to get that security benefit.


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  11. How about reality. Stalin took those countries over after the Yalta carve up. Poland , Hungary, Czechs and the rest don’t want anything to do with Russia and have begged the west to join their defensive grouping – NATO.

    How long have they been free from the USSR already?

    Now they’re about to join NATO to “protect them” they’re in the process of being fucked up.

    All of the FSU states would have been far better off not giving up any weapons, telling NATO and the Euroweanies to fuck off, and forming their own mutual defence block.

    What’s happening now is so predictable, the Euroweanies court them into NATO, then mail them a few man portable weapons when shit gets real. The only mild display of integrity has been by the UK who as at least given them some tangible weapons and training.

    Basically it’s baddies versus idiots. Who the fuck in their right mind would trust “The West”?

    Lessons for Australia there. You’re actually on your own, so don’t get involved in shit to “preserve alliances” that don’t actually exist.


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  12. Lessons for Australia there. You’re actually on your own, so don’t get involved in shit to “preserve alliances” that don’t actually exist.

    This.
    Also real energy independence.
    If you don’t have it, you’re not a real country.


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  13. There seems to be bullshit being posted about how NATO is an offensive association.

    Hard to conjure up a defensive purpose for the sustained NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999.

    Putin took note.


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  14. Lessons for Australia there. You’re actually on your own, so don’t get involved in shit to “preserve alliances” that don’t actually exist.

    correct


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  15. Hard to conjure up a defensive purpose for the sustained NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999.

    Putin took note.

    You mean American bombing.

    Let’s face facts. NATO is basically the US it’s orbiting satellites.

    And yes, I do have some faith in the US coming to our aid. It wouldn’t be the first time either.


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  16. Also real energy independence. If you don’t have it, you’re not a real country.

    Thankfully our strategic oil reserves are located in Texas and Louisiana.


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  17. And yes, I do have some faith in the US coming to our aid. It wouldn’t be the first time either.

    that time has long past- they won’t even defend Texas


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  18. I am probably on balance, an isolationist and I don’t want the UN to exist…at all. We’re better off with nukes and no allies. Switzerland but gone full ham. We certainly shouldn’t go to Ukraine or get dragged into ancillary conflict. Plus I don’t want to get lit up by hard X rays of a thermonuclear warhead exploding near me.

    I think it would be interesting if parties making pronouncements about the morals or purpose of certain military actions…if they were to hold the same principles constant over time.


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  19. Let’s face facts. NATO is basically the US it’s orbiting satellites.

    Sure, but it was under the auspices of NATO.

    As was 1995 in Bosnia Herzegovina.

    And yes, I do have some faith in the US coming to our aid.

    But it would be unwise not to have a solid back up plan, yes?

    The US is in decline, the new world order is in recession & the world is becoming multi-polar.

    It wouldn’t be the first time either.

    In WWII in the Pacific theatre the US was pursuing its own interests, not ours.

    We’re just fortunate they coincided.


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  20. The latest episode of Raised by Wolves has the kid whose real parents were killed by the 2 atheists who then impersonated those parents being reborn, JC style, after being poisoned by a computer, by the application of mutant leeches taken from a sea monster. And don’t get me started on the giant flying snake which is a vegetarian and lives on pumpkins. Then again what is happening on good old Earth right now is more bizarre.


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  21. I am probably on balance, an isolationist and I don’t want the UN to exist…at all. We’re better off with nukes and no allies.

    yep and engage with the world on our terms alone


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  22. feelthebernsays:
    February 28, 2022 at 7:36 pm
    John H, MIT tech review was saying that fusion is an AI issue more than anything else now.
    I don’t pretend to understand much of it.
    But the article I was reading said that AI will deliver fusion reactor

    I don’t understand it either FTB. This is not the first time credible scientists have raised questions about the way fusion research is published. I *imagine* there has long been AI involved in the research.


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  23. The latest episode of Raised by Wolves has the kid whose real parents were killed by the 2 atheists who then impersonated those parents being reborn, JC style,

    Cronkite, when have I ever pretended to be be reborn? Stop making stuff up about me.


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  24. Why is NATO apparently so determined to antagonise Russia by creeping closer and closer to the Russian borders?
    What benefit to the west was there getting Ukraine inside?

    A question I have pondered more than once too Rosie in last 8 years. I don’t understand the risk vs reward trade off at all. All Europe has to do is wait a generation or two, the younger generation in eastern European states is already more liberal than parents. You can bet your bottom dollar within a couple of generations so will be all the old Soviet republics and maybe even Russia itself. All the EU has to do is wait.

    I agree with bern this morning, someone with a cooler head needs to step up and start defusing things.


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  25. Also real energy independence.
    If you don’t have it, you’re not a real country.

    If you can’t successfully blockade Australia (ie. we don’t really need anything), then as an aggressor you’re in a spot of bother.

    12 months National service and the ability to buy your own rifle afterwards would render Australia unbeatable in a defence conflict within 10 years. All you need for defence is riflemen, drones and man portable weapons, you don’t need to be able to push them back into the sea, you just need to be able to bleed them.

    Imagine a swath of parents in China not even getting a body bag back. Only child disappears into Australia in combat never to be seen again. The CCP would get torn apart from the inside.

    Of course this cheap and commonsense defence approach will never happen. You forge a good sword, but it’s a double edged one. You think that 10 years on National Service Conscripts would take kindly to the last 2 years of abject bastardry?


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  26. do youse not see how the Ukraine situation flows from the same idiot politic as Blue Haired Marxist victim gaming?
    feminist division?
    inclusion totem politics?

    Russia has been provoked for many years and the game goes, we can be as provokative, bitchy and grasping as we want because we own the narrative.

    Everytime you respond we gonna double-down on the bullshit until everything you do and say just proves what a bad, bad, bad nation you are

    Damned if they do, damned if they don’t Russia says, ‘because fuck you’


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  27. Again Dot, you lie, and you are a lawyer, unless that to is a lie.

    Carl Benjamin didn’t say this –

    “Tell me why Lamaitre, Mother Theresa, John Paul II, … Athelstan, Mendel and Copernicus all were, as fatso puts it, parasites… because they didn’t have kids.”

    You pulled it out of arse.

    Go dance in your shit stained falsity on your own, sane people don’t do that.


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  28. “So the disgusting creep destroys the US’s oil and gas industry and in return for giving the bomb to the mullahs expects to get oil from them.”

    Which is why, given what’s going on in Ukraine, the US lacks any moral authority whatsoever.


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  29. will says:
    February 28, 2022 at 2:39 pm

    Australia to send lethal weapons to Ukraine. “Australia will provide lethal military equipment to Ukraine to help the Ukrainians resist the Russian invasion.

    Will, Australia isn’t sending weapons to Ukraine, it’s sending funds to purchase weapons. Just another Australian taxpayer contribution to the Oligarchs.


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  30. So the disgusting creep destroys the US’s oil and gas industry and in return for giving the bomb to the mullahs expects to get oil from them.

    Keeping the transactions well offshore the US makes it all the more easier to hide the graft and corruption. We are talking about the Bidens after all.


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  31. Hard to conjure up a defensive purpose for the sustained NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999.

    That was some guy called Clinton wearing a NATO jockstrap.
    One must have appropriate protection for one’s important organs.


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  32. Eyrie says:
    February 28, 2022 at 8:07 pm
    I sure hope you’re the only person in a glider, Champ.
    Well you accidently got one thing right. I was indeed a National Gliding champion.

    M
    That’s like those sports such as surfing which can’t really be tallied. Recall, you agreed it wasn’t a sport for that reason. You’re that sort of champ?


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  33. Cassie of Sydneysays:
    February 28, 2022 at 7:42 pm
    “JCsays:
    February 28, 2022 at 7:37 pm
    I must be in a coma, because I can’t recall all those boring attacks on Liz and the countless exchanges.”

    I’m not in a coma and I can recall them. And they were always unprovoked attacks on Lizzie.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
    January 5, 2022 at 1:10 pm

    Hairy thinks I’m stubborn too. You didn’t saying anything about Business Class did you? he enquires anxiously as he peers around the door disapprovingly at me blogging. You know that will just bring them all down on your head again. If you do, then leave me out of it.



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  34. JC, do you really want to embarrass yourself further? Do a little internet research. Competition gliding is racing around a set course although the set course bit has been somewhat modified in the last 20 years.


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  35. JC, do you really want to embarrass yourself further? Do a little internet research. Competition gliding is racing around a set course although the set course bit has been somewhat modified in the last 20 years.

    Oh yea, what set course is that, champ?


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  36. Dover, would you consider a dedicated thread for those who want to go the interminable stoush, repeating the same drivel over and over again?

    There are a couple/few notable antagonist pairs who just clutter up the OT with their schoolgirl-grade bickering, name-calling and pointless bilge, sometimes for hours on end.

    Sure, they can be scrolled past, but it’s still time wasted and annoyance generated for those who come here for interesting commentary, variety of viewpoints and interesting links provided by others.

    The childish bickering devalues their good input, which might be a point for them to ponder.


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  37. That was some guy called Clinton wearing a NATO jockstrap.

    Did the jockstrap object?

    Do you think a younger Putin didn’t take note?

    Also bear in mind that Putin is a St. Petersburger, born just 8 years after the siege of Leningrad.

    If you want to understand someone’s psyche – especially a potential enemy – familiarise yourself with their biography.


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  38. “Hairy thinks I’m stubborn too. You didn’t saying anything about Business Class did you? he enquires anxiously as he peers around the door disapprovingly at me blogging. You know that will just bring them all down on your head again. If you do, then leave me out of it.”

    I fail to see how that is a provocation. Cleary it bothers you but I don’t equate that with being called a “gold toothed rat”. Do you?


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  39. Australia to send lethal weapons to Ukraine. “Australia will provide lethal military equipment to Ukraine to help the Ukrainians resist the Russian invasion.

    I hope the AFP will be ensuring that all users are licensed, that they’re all registered and that there will be periodic checks on correct storage.


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  40. You don’t have any money.


    Sorta lacks punch when coming from someone who disappeared when it was time to put money up. 😉


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  41. JC, do you really want to embarrass yourself further? Do a little internet research. Competition gliding is racing around a set course although the set course bit has been somewhat modified in the last 20 years.

    Eyrie
    Honestly, do you have a functional brain and I mean this in the sincerest way. Gliding has two forms of competition – racing and acrobatics.

    Let’s leave aside acrobatics.

    If surfing is an act of God in terms of the quality of the wave one takes on, then speed in a gliding competition is similar. It’s not identical, but similar. In other words if one gets a fast wind current they win vs someone unable to find one as speedy.


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  42. If NATO is harmless why is it recruiting members that fall under Article 5 protection? But lets put that to one side, if you’re recruiting members in key strategic areas of Russia, can you really say that is defensive? Isn’t the better strategy using those states as buffers, maintaining their neutrality, and cultivating friendly relations between that state, Europe, and Russia?


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  43. Driller

    Recall how you once belonged to a gang of pile-onners. Now you’re all alone flailing about like the slob you are and have always been. How times have changed for you, hey.


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  44. Winston

    Sort of, but the Dniepr River offers a securable, defensible border.

    Rivers don’t make good long term borders. Generally, people on each side trade with, play with and generally associate with each other. Example: both sides of the Murray play Aussie Rules., and there are several twin towns: Albury Wodonga, Echuca/Moama, and others.

    Mountains are much better, if they are available.


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  45. …. if you’re recruiting members in key strategic areas of Russia, can you really say that is defensive?

    You can’t be for real. Every single member coming from the old Sov has asked to join. They weren’t invited.


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  46. “Tell me why Lamaitre, Mother Theresa, John Paul II, … Athelstan, Mendel and Copernicus all were, as fatso puts it, parasites… because they didn’t have kids.”

    Yes USSR you bloody idiot, those are indeed my words you illiterate grub. I never made out there were anything else.

    Fatso (Carl Benjamin) made his assertion without qualification. If you want to defend him, go ahead, don’t deflect with a caterwauling song and dance about how people who disagree with you are literally Rosemary’s Baby.

    Tell us why Carl Benjamin (fatso, Sargon of A Wank) is more useful to society to those luminaries I mentioned, and by his proclamation, are “parasites”.

    GO!!!


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  47. Oh and Timothy, I like your posts so I’m not going to get embroiled in a stoush with you over Lizzie but last week I posted a comment along the lines of “coke rots your teeth and morning television rots your brain”. It wasn’t directed at anyone, it was part of a conversation at the time on the blog. But the female from Queanbeyan came on a few hours later and decided to attack me for that comment, for no good reason. She done that a lot over the years. I didn’t provoke anything yet she decided to attack me. I responded appropriately. I quite like a lot of what she writes but sometimes, and I’m sure others will agree with me, she comes on here and when she’s not picking a fight with someone, she tries it lord it over the rest of us, like her disdainful comment a few days ago about how most of us would not be able to find Ukraine on a map. BULLSHIT. I don’t seek fights but I’ll respond accordingly when I’m targeted…which is what Ukraine is doing.


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  48. Rockdoctor

    What benefit to the west was there getting Ukraine inside?

    Well, a lot of western politicians and their families seem to have become very rich as a result?


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  49. I was on Bill’s side then. Slobodan was attempting to deport 2.2 million people. Much as I dislike Islam that’s not acceptable.

    Nobody is defending Milosevic.

    The point is NATO expanded its mission to acts of aggression outside its territory and for no reasonable purpose of self-defence, which played into Putin’s developing worldview.

    The West, and the USA in particular, cannot afford to be the world’s policeman, neither in blood nor treasure.

    It’s a fallacy that JFK bequeathed us nearly 60 years ago which ought to have long since been rejected.

    I much prefer the cautious realism of Eisenhower.


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  50. Our Pauline and Matt Canavan against that punchable bastard reece on PML. Good people that they are they just don’t know the facts to throw at the boy faced commie. Not that reece cares, the virtue signalling, smug piece of shit.


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  51. Lessons for Australia there. You’re actually on your own, so don’t get involved in shit to “preserve alliances” that don’t actually exist.

    +100


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  52. 12 months National service and the ability to buy your own rifle afterwards would render Australia unbeatable in a defence conflict within 10 years.

    As I already did my 20, and bought my own 303, can I get RPL?


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  53. 12 months National service and the ability to buy your own rifle afterwards would render Australia unbeatable in a defence conflict within 10 years.

    Wow, lucky us! We get to buy our own Steyr!


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  54. “Not that reece cares, the virtue signalling, smug piece of shit.”

    Dickless Grease is worse than that…..he’s a dumb piece of shit. Last week he was on Rita Panahi and his response, to a serious conversation about Senator Claire Chandler’s reasonable bill to keep women’s sport for biological women, was to smear it as “far-right”. This is the mentality of much of the left, if you dare to even reasonably disagree with them, you’re screamed at, shouted down and smeared as far-right, white supremacist and Nazi.


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  55. Invoking NATO has occurred only once in its history, which was 911. NATO wasn’t involved in the Serb bombing.

    I distinctly remember Wesley Clark being one of the top men.

    Top. Men.


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  56. NATO medal must be a figment of imagination then.
    Probably awarded for excellence in polishing the Sam Browne, or something.


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  57. Boy fake 2000s libertarianism sure does turn easily into globohomo globalism once it gets a job doesn’t it?

    Sad to see you what you became dot.

    Ron Paul denounces you.


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  58. Globalism is the corporate friendly version of fake libertarianism.

    Strange but not really, it was always about smashing nations, corporate power and fueling degeneracy.

    Both of them.


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  59. My smokes have got to Amsterdam. This is good, it’s further from Ukraine.

    I never feared nuclear Armageddon, mainly because if the loonies decided to destroy the human beans there wasn’t a damn thing I could do about it. And given the choice of living in fear or going for sunny optimism, I chose the second. I never feared the WuFlu, the numbers weren’t scary at all. And I’m not worried about Putin starting a nuclear exchange over Ukraine because I’m pretty sure he’s not that daft.

    I find that not reading newspapers or watching television stops me having panic attacks about current affairs. Or maybe I’m just not attracted to hysteria. There’s a lot of it about, but much more entertainment in life that is pleasantly soothing. So carry on having a good panic if you like that sort of thing, and I’ll just watch you and laugh at you.


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  60. Ron Paul denounces you

    ???

    Boy fake 2000s libertarianism sure does turn easily into globohomo globalism once it gets a job doesn’t it?

    This is brain-dead, failed bot shit posting from 4chan. Random sentences and some key words.

    I am probably on balance, an isolationist and I don’t want the UN to exist…at all. We’re better off with nukes and no allies. Switzerland but gone full ham. We certainly shouldn’t go to Ukraine or get dragged into ancillary conflict.

    Um yes, I am definitely on the globalists payroll.

    For the really, really slow children:

    GET NUKES
    NO ALLIES
    NO UN
    DO NOT GET INVOLVED IN THE CURRENT CONFLICT


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  61. DrBeauGansays:
    February 28, 2022 at 9:01 pm
    My smokes have got to Amsterdam. This is good, it’s further from Ukraine.

    I find that not reading newspapers or watching television stops me having panic attacks about current affairs.

    I do both but I can’t panic anymore. What is much more worrying is why I can’t reduce my visceral fat.


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  62. If surfing is an act of God in terms of the quality of the wave one takes on, then speed in a gliding competition is similar. It’s not identical, but similar. In other words if one gets a fast wind current they win vs someone unable to find one as speedy.

    The difference being that you need to find many thermals on a given task of several hundred kilometers and finding the best path through the air between them is nearly as important. Then add up the results over 5 to 12 days. The “luck” tends to be averaged out and the usual suspects are found at the top of the score sheet. Few win more than one or two days in a contest and it has been known for a person who won no days to win the contest as they just place highly every day. It is an esoteric skill to look at the clouds, the ground, the gliders ahead, eagles or other birds , smoke from fires, instrument indications, the sound of the air over the canopy, the changing g loads, indications of changes in the meteorological situation and other inputs and extract the maximum power from the atmosphere. It all boils down to a time for task. The only “judge” is the clock. No subjectivity.


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  63. Wow, lucky us! We get to buy our own Steyr!

    No one’s going to buy a fucking Steyr with they’re own cash.

    The point of “buy your own” is that it guarantees that 90% of them will be serviceable in 50 years. If the government handed them out 10% would be serviceable in 50 years.

    That’s the way most people are wired.


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  64. You can’t be for real. Every single member coming from the old Sov has asked to join. They weren’t invited.

    How does any of that matter? It’s provocative which is why France and Germany baulked in 2008. Much better to say that will never happen and promote their neutrality and friendly relations all round.


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  65. rickw says: February 28, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    I was sorta expressing a subjective opinion of the Steyr, rather than the concept (which btw is fantastic & should tonight be implemented, retrospectively.)


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  66. How does any of that matter? It’s provocative which is why France and Germany baulked in 2008. Much better to say that will never happen and promote their neutrality and friendly relations all round.

    I hope it was provocative. They were forced to endure the worst of godless communism. This is like suggesting we should never provoke a wife beater by having the wife leave the home.


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  67. rickw says:
    February 28, 2022 at 7:49 pm

    What’s happening now is so predictable, the Euroweanies court them into NATO, then mail them a few man portable weapons when shit gets real. The only mild display of integrity has been by the UK who as at least given them some tangible weapons and training.

    I may be wrong (it has happened before), but I was under the impression that most of the NATO members didn’t want Ukraine to join. The US was pushing for it but most European nations didn’t want Ukraine in NATO.

    I wouldn’t blame them, they wouldn’t want to upset their energy provider, and they would view Ukraine as a US State Department member rather than a valid nation, so they wouldn’t want to become embroiled in any future US / Russia ideological issues.


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  68. Was reading about novavax Dot.
    Apparently a lot of the ‘waiting for Novavax ‘ in Australia was smoke blowing.
    BTW has anyone produced any credible evidence that novavax was developed,tested using foetal cells?
    I had a hunt but only found one article, that, without citing any sources, was saying no.
    Only moth cells.


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  69. NATO operation in 1999:

    The French Navy and Air Force operated the Super Etendard and the Mirage 2000. The Italian Air Force operated with 34 Tornado, 12 F-104, 12 AMX, 2 B-707, the Italian Navy operated with Harrier II. The UK’s Royal Air Force operated the Harrier GR7 and Tornado ground attack jets as well as an array of support aircraft. Belgian, Danish, Dutch, Norwegian and Turkish Air Forces operated F-16s. The Spanish Air Force deployed EF-18s and KC-130s. The Canadian Air Force deployed a total of 18 CF-18s, enabling them to be responsible for 10% of all bombs dropped

    British, French, and Italian Navies also involved.


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  70. The difference being that you need to find many thermals on a given task of several hundred kilometers and finding the best path through the air between them is nearly as important. Then add up the results over 5 to 12 days. The “luck” tends to be averaged out and the usual suspects are found at the top of the score sheet. Few win more than one or two days in a contest and it has been known for a person who won no days to win the contest as they just place highly every day. It is an esoteric skill to look at the clouds, the ground, the gliders ahead, eagles or other birds , smoke from fires, instrument indications, the sound of the air over the canopy, the changing g loads, indications of changes in the meteorological situation and other inputs and extract the maximum power from the atmosphere. It all boils down to a time for task. The only “judge” is the clock. No subjectivity.

    Yea, like surfing.


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  71. It’s getting zero coverage, but HK is in real trouble.
    There are food shortages & empty shelves.
    I’m surprised the westerners still there aren’t getting the word out.
    The Chinese don’t have comms locked down like the mainland is.
    Yet.


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  72. Latest on the Ben Roberts Smith case.

    Multiple SAS witnesses, in recent weeks, have objected to giving evidence that could see them prosecuted unless they were issued what are informally known as “immunity certificates” by Justice Anthony Besanko.

    But Person 4’s barrister, Ben Kremer, told the court those certificates would not offer “complete protection” from investigation or prosecution.

    Dr Kremer told the court Person 4’s testimony could still be used by prosecutors to launch an investigation into the allegations against him.

    Person 4’s evidence, the court heard, could be used to guide an investigation and may lead to criminal charges in Australia, Afghanistan or in the International Criminal Court.

    Dr Kremer said the court could not offer “effective protection” against prosecution.

    “This kind of evidence is exactly the sort of thing that could be used in prosecution under this regime without any protection from the certificate,” Dr Kremer said.



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  73. The last legitimate democratically elected government in Ukraine had no time for NATO or the EU at all.

    That was literally the reason given for the US backed coup against it. Too pro Russia they claimed, better get an injection of US mandatory puppet ‘democracy’ to fix your attitude.

    Hilariously the darling leader of the pro US junta that was installed after the ultra violent 2014 revolution was in 2019 accused of treason by the current fake Ukraine president for being….too pro Russia.

    Ukraine and the machinations of the US state department there makes the CIA’s activities in south american banana republics look stately and Roman in comparison.

    So forgive me for being skeptical when people claim other countries in the region were all just dying to join “NATO”.


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  74. Same shit, different bread in the sandwich. Don’t do it.

    It is nothing like Moderna or Pfizer. The technology is the same as in the Hep B vaccine.

    If Astra Zeneca is shit, it is shit.

    Sputnik (from Russia) used the same kind of technology and has an excellent safety record.

    The whole spike protein thing is nonsense. Many microbes use spike protein to fight, kill and eat the insides of other microbes.

    I think I have already had COVID (with good reason). It’s just a cold and the vaccine seems pointless, by now I very likely have natural immunity.

    This is to keep my job (Karen’s are in charge). If I was smarter, I would have said “I am waiting for Covaxin”.

    Morrison can go shove his cock in a pickle slicer for his “you don’t need to take a vaccine” bullshit.


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  75. Dover

    You left out the US. Why?

    But here, you can more or less derive the number of planes the US provided.

    The campaign involved some 1,000 aircraft operating from air bases in Italy and Germany, as well as the USS Theodore Roosevelt, an aircraft carrier stationed in the Adriatic Sea. NATO aircraft flew more than 38,000 combat missions during the conflict. In addition, cruise missiles were fired from American ships and submarines.



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  76. Gorgeous spring day here.
    Old town is very quiet, lot of shops as well as musee also closed on a Monday so to be expected.
    Bought e bus tickets, no idea how to use them. Drivers have been waving me through saying ‘c’est compliqué’ .


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  77. I had a hunt but only found one article, that, without citing any sources, was saying no.

    If that’s the case, I feel a lot better about it.

    I am still pissed about the coercion and vaccine passport. The AIR was not set up for this purpose.

    Why couldn’t I have just voluntarily had it with the flu shot, free of coercion?


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  78. miltonf says:
    February 28, 2022 at 7:55 pm

    Hard to conjure up a defensive purpose for the sustained NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999.

    also correct and of course it was the Clintons again

    The first bombs to fall were on a small Serbian village which had only one industry, a shoe factory. One of the locals was interviewed and asked for his thoughts, he said he was puzzled about why Madeleine Albright, then the US Secretary of State, chose to bomb his village first as that village sheltered Madeleine and her parents during WWII, they were German Jews who escaped the Holocaust by fleeing through Yugoslavia.


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  79. Morrison can go shove his cock in a pickle slicer for his “you don’t need to take a vaccine” bullshit.

    Scotty is forcing you to take a Needle?
    You idiot.


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  80. rosie says: February 28, 2022 at 9:26 pm
    Gorgeous spring day here.

    Old town is very quiet, lot of shops as well as musee also closed on a Monday so to be expected.
    Bought e bus tickets, no idea how to use them. Drivers have been waving me through saying ‘c’est compliqué’ .

    Hotter than expected summer’s day here.
    Town is quiet-ish. Some pubs & most restaurants closed for the day. Those that are open trading truncated hours. Many restaurants & cafes closed permanently.
    Not a lot of trucks, railway totally silent (possibly on strike, but how to tell this from usual output?)
    Shops in general quiet.
    No sign of cops.


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  81. If the nukes start dropping, look for B R-S get square with a few of these bull shit artists.

    The spontaneous season of squaring off might not just be confined to B R-S.

    If I was the Bat Eared Mong or Mc Clown and a few nukes went off in Europe I’d be heading for the basement for a couple of months, and not because of fallout.


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  82. I hope it was provocative. They were forced to endure the worst of godless communism. This is like suggesting we should never provoke a wife beater by having the wife leave the home.

    Amazing how we erased the crimes Ukrainians engaged in under that regime but want to perpetually recall it so far as the Russians are concerned. Re the analogy though, it would be more accurate to say NATO provoked the wife beater and kept her home, and NATO is now promising to send her a helmet, all the while still asking her to provoke him.


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  83. he said he was puzzled about why Madeleine Albright, then the US Secretary of State, chose to bomb his village first as that village sheltered Madeleine and her parents during WWII

    For some reason the name of that village sticks in my mind, let’s bomb the fuck out of it…..


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  84. Amazing how we erased the crimes Ukrainians engaged in

    Stepan Bandera. Read up about his atrocities in Ukraine and then granted hero status in 2010 by President Yukoshenko. Ukraine nationalists have a history of genocidal maniacs and massacres. That is who the west is throwing their lot in with. It’s obscene.

    They should stay the fk well out of this disgusting East Euro cesspool.


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  85. Remember this pommy parasite? Piece of sh*t.

    Jamie Patrick Shea CMG (born 11 September 1953 in London) is a retired member of nato. He was Deputy Assistant Secretary General for Emerging Security Challenges at NATO Headquarters in Brussels, Belgium until his retirement in late September 2018.

    He received worldwide attention during the 1999 Kosovo War, when he served as the spokesperson for NATO.[1] He described the children and adult civilians killed by the NATO bombing of Serbia in the effort to prevent the Serbs from retaining Kosovo as the “cost to defeat an evil”.[2]

    He received his B.A. (Hons.) in Modern History and French from the University of Sussex (1977) and his D.Phil. in Modern History from Lincoln College, Oxford (1981).

    Shea was appointed Companion of the Order of St Michael and St George (CMG) in the 2020 New Year Honours for services to diplomacy and public service.[3]


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  86. I’ve had two x AZ and a Moderna booster.

    Let’s not go into “why” except to say the people I love most dearly in this world asked me to have them.

    Anyway … my observations (and taking into account correlation ain’t causation):

    After the injections:

    Eyes: 3 x distinct cases of “floaters”, one after each injection, necessitating a visit to an ophthalmic registrar at the hospital

    Lethargy: I have never fallen asleep in the middle of the day before; now I do while at the computer. Walking requires almost more effort than I can muster. It is intermittent.

    Pain: Myalgia-like pains immediately after the injections; ongoing; left hip/lower back, right knee and ankle. Almost immobile on awakening. Struggle to bend to pull on jocks. Standing after sitting can be agony; short, acute “grabs” of pain.

    I repeat: this is all purely circumstantial BUT I had NONE of these problems before the vax. Make of it what you will.


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  87. Shea was appointed Companion of the Order of St Michael and St George (CMG) in the 2020 New Year Honours for services to diplomacy and public service.

    does that mean he did it pro bono?


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  88. The point of “buy your own” is that it guarantees that 90% of them will be serviceable in 50 years.

    Seems right – my 1942 Mosin and 1955 303 are still kicking.


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  89. Ukraine and Russia in talks. This could be peace, wonderful news.

    5 AM tomorrow. BREAKING:

    NEW DEADLY STRAIN OF COVID…FULL LOCKDOWN FOR THREE MONTHS, PM MORRISON TOUTS AUSTRALIA’S MATESHIP AND ENVIABLE CIVIL LIBERTIES…. WE’RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, LITTLE FREEDOMERINOS…


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  90. 4 Corners just did a hit on Putin. Looked at opposition leaders, vote harvesting in elections and protestors arrested and tortured.

    All we heard about the opposition was that they wanted freedom for Russia. All very nice.

    At the very end a Putin supporter tried to sum up his view of what was happening and one thing he mentioned was that it was a cultural struggle against Western values.

    When people say they want freedom in Russia they mean embracing the kind of rot that we have in the West. Putin is wealthy and lots of Russians are poor. No different here. Cops are politicised there. Same here. But Christian churches are safe and still have standing there. There’s no gay pride centre funded by government, no Mardi Gras, and no bullshit apologies for crimes supposedly committed by previous generations. And we’re up to speed with their spying and surveillance so we can’t feel smug about that any more.

    I wish someone could explain why we are in a better situation than them.


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  91. Heading North.
    Hope to be able to meet Ted Bundy on mutually agreeable territory this Friday.
    How far are you willing to travel, Ted?
    Or are you going to wimp it … again?


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  92. Because every NATO operation would be US-dominated. All that needed to be shown was the non-US NATO partners.

    The NATO umbrella was basically cover for what was a US operation. You don’t need to show there were non-US players . You’d need to show the operation wasn’t 95% American dominated.


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  93. The whole spike protein thing is nonsense
    The spike protein is the pathogen in this case. Anyway, it’s your funeral, or could be. Read Dr Ryan Cole and Robert Malone and there are a bunch of other smart people who have analysed the official statistics who have shown that at best the vaxxes are ineffective, at worst promote the virus and can have dreadful side effects.
    As for Let’s not go into “why” except to say the people I love most dearly in this world asked me to have them.
    FFS, why would people who love you want you to do something that you don’t want to do?


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  94. Hawke, the toiler’s friend, died a wealthy man. Keating is wealthy.

    Isn’t that the philosophy of today’s Labor Party – “We live in waterfront mansions, have vast fortunes, and spend our days honking on about the “Big end of town” for the good of the wukkas?


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  95. Bucharest Summit 2008. They supported MAP for both Georgia and Ukraine.

    What exactly do you mean by supported.

    1. Do you mean G & U were invited without a dance in the background?

    2. Do you mean they were asked to invite both of them beforehand?


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  96. BTW has anyone produced any credible evidence that novavax was developed,tested using foetal cells?

    Yes back in 2021. It’s old news but known news. Just because you couldn’t find anything about it doesn’t mean anything. Why would you even care? You certainly had no hesitation taking the vaccines that are abortion-tainted.

    Multimerization was observed when evaluating the Novavax against different forms of the spike protein. Researchers designed a test in HEK-293T cells to better understand what they had observed. It was hoped it would be an ethical vaccine, sadly not the case.

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.06.234674v1.full


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  97. Russian exporters ordered to convert most foreign currency to rubles

    The measure is meant to support the domestic currency, which has weakened under the pressure of Ukraine-related sanctions

    Russian businesses that trade abroad must sell 80% of their foreign currency earnings and convert them to rubles, the Ministry of Finance said in a statement on Monday. The decision comes in response to sanctions targeting Russia’s financial system over the crisis in Ukraine. It is expected to stabilize the ruble and encourage more investments in Russia instead of moving foreign currency abroad.

    “Today, a decision will be made to introduce a mandatory sale of foreign currency in the amount of 80% of their revenue under all foreign trade agreements starting on February 28, 2022,” the statement said.

    Effectively, this means that relevant firms must now exchange a vast share of their forex earnings into Russia’s national currency in order to keep the funds within the country, so that they can be spent on national projects instead of investments abroad. The measure has been jointly put forward by the Ministry of Finance and the Russian Central Bank as one of the ways to ensure Russia’s economic stability in the face of Western sanctions, introduced last week following Moscow’s launch of a military operation in Ukraine.

    Moscow describes the operation as the “demilitarization” and “denazification” of the neighboring state, while a number of Western nations see it as an “unprovoked” aggression. These nations include the US, EU, Great Britain, and a number of others. The allies jointly hit Russia with various economic sanctions targeting the country’s economy. The US and the EU also announced on Saturday they would freeze the assets of the Russian Central Bank.

    Russia has been launching counter-measures of its own. Earlier on Monday, the Central Bank urgently raised the key rate from 9.5 to a record 20% per annum, explaining the move by the “drastic change” in the external conditions for the Russian economy. The Central Bank also announced additional measures to support credit institutions and recommended that banks not charge interest and penalties on loans, as well as allow the restructuring of payments.

    https://www.rt.com/business/550825-russian-exporters-convert-foreign-currency/


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  98. The NATO umbrella was basically cover for what was a US operation. You don’t need to show there were non-US players . You’d need to show the operation wasn’t 95% American dominated.

    JC, the only reason you want to argue that the NATO operation in Belgrade was effectively a US operation even though NATO partners under NATO auspices sent planes and ships is to maintain the idea that NATO is a defensive alliance. Setting aside that a fraction doesn’t prove anything, still, just looking at the naval deployment confirms that the commitment was no where near 95% US-dominated.


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  99. What exactly do you mean by supported.

    This, from Wiki:

    The Alliance did not offer a Membership Action Plan to Georgia or Ukraine, largely due to the opposition of Germany and France, but pledged to review the decision in December 2008.[4] Even though Georgia was not offered MAP, it welcomed the decision and said “The decision to accept that we are going forward to an adhesion to NATO was taken and we consider this is a historic success”.[42] However, the Summit Declaration stated: “NATO’s door will remain open to European democracies willing and able to assume the responsibilities and obligations of membership, in accordance with Article 10 of the Washington Treaty. We reiterate that decisions on enlargement are for NATO itself to make. […] NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO. Both nations have made valuable contributions to Alliance operations. We welcome the democratic reforms in Ukraine and Georgia and look forward to free and fair parliamentary elections in Georgia in May. MAP is the next step for Ukraine and Georgia on their direct way to membership. Today we make clear that we support these countries’ applications for MAP.”[5]



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  100. So Dover, the weren’t exactly invited but they in fact applied for membership. I’m glad that’s cleared up .

    Today we make clear that we support these countries’ applications for MAP.”



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  101. Don’t mind at all to see actual evidence that testing was conducted. My conscience regarding vaccines is entirely clear and in line with long standing Catholic teaching.
    As there is a good chance annual boosters might be on the cards the more information regarding different vaccines, the better.


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  102. DoverBeach:

    Along the Dnieper, yes, from the Bend across to Kharkov, I don’t know. Probably not, but it’s not a defensive line really so much as something to bargain with.

    The line Karkov/Dnepopetrovsk? is mainly farmland and bog.(Using Google Earth) The defensive line would have to be along the E105 and frankly, I wouldn’t like to attack or defend anywhere to the east of the Dniepr River after a bit of rain.
    I realise a map is not the terrain, but unless one was a local and knew the safe bits to travel on, it’d be easy to bog vehicles to an almost inextricable position.


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  103. My conscience regarding vaccines is entirely clear and in line with long standing Catholic teaching.

    It is not ”long-standing teaching”. What the Pope said about the vaccine is his opinion only. Relying on your ”conscience” is also not a ”long-standing” teaching, only something that arose after Vatican II. Someone can say their conscience is clear even after murdering someone else – that does not make it a moral or ethical good. It just means they have a mal-formed conscience.

    Something that begins in evil is not morally right regardless of the outcome. This is actually a ”long-standing” teaching.


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  104. 1942 Mosin ,91/30 or M38?, Ishevsk or Tula?

    1942 M91-30.. Made at Izhevsk (Soviet Union) . I have done a sniper conversion with genuine scope and turned down bolt.

    It can hit a man sized target to 500m reliably, 750 sometimes!


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  105. You by the way have no idea what moral considerations I pondered before I made any decisions about getting vaccinated or not.
    And as if God cares what you think about me.
    And without hesitation many devout Catholics in full knowledge vaccinate their children with vaccines that owe their existence to those same unfortunates.
    so many vaccines


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  106. You know, ”rosie” I never even said anything about you personally – but you certainly took the information personally.

    That says something about you in a nutshell.


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  107. You by the way have no idea what moral considerations I pondered before I made any decisions about getting vaccinated or not.

    Define Byzantine:
    adjective. highly complex or intricate and occasionally devious.


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  108. Stan Grant gets it right this time.

    Australia’s media elite anoint Albo: Lisa Wilkinson and Peter FitzSimons party with Labor leader and a Who’s Who of Sydney including The Project stars and Magda Szubanski

    Labor leader Antony Albanese and his girlfriend Jodie Haydon were guests of honour at Lisa Wilkinson and Peter FitzSimons’ glitzy star-studded shindig at the weekend.

    The celebrity couple previously threw a regular Australia Day party at their palatial North Shore mansion until the annual event was derailed by the pandemic.

    But now it has returned, rebranded in 2020 as an Independence Day party in honour of FitzSimons’ Republican movement – and pushed back a month to February 26.

    A Who’s Who of Sydney’s progressive media elite queued up to get in at the sprawling harbourside home, including comic actor Magda Szubanski, stars from Ten’s The Project and ABC journalists.

    But one notable omission was ABC’s Q+A host Stan Grant after he mercilessly mocked the get-together in print last year.

    Grant branded the parties ‘a woke lefty love-in’ of ‘journos, actors, writers, a couple of ex-Wallabies, a few washed-up politicians…and a former managing director of the ABC’.

    Saturday’s party guest list list largely matched Grant’s predictions, according to The Australian’s Media Diary, and even included former ABC MD Mark Scott

    Mr Albanese and Ms Haydon joined NSW Opposition leader Chris Minns at the resurrected event, in what was seen as a clear signal of support for Labor.

    Both Wilkinson and FitzSimons have been strident critics – through their roles on The Project and in the Sun Herald – of PM Scott Morrison and the Coalition government

    They were also joined by Ten talent including Wilkinson’s Sunday Project co-hosts Hamish Macdonald and pregnant panellist Jan Fran, as well as Chris Taylor and Osher Gunsberg.

    The Australian reported other guests included ex-Sydney Morning Herald editor Lisa Davies, investigative reporter Kate McClymont, columnists Jacqueline Maley and Jane Caro, as well as outspoken former columnist, Mike ­Carlton.

    ABC names were said to include The Drum host Julia Baird, One Plus One host Kurt Fearnley, and Four Corners reporter Louise Milligan.

    Also among guests was the bandana-wearing former Wallaby’s daughter, Billi FitzSimons.


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  109. “Why would you even care? You certainly had no hesitation taking the vaccines that are abortion-tainted”
    Speaks for itself.
    In addition you misrepresent the church’s position on vaccines as this predates covid by many years.
    Like I said, I’ll take my moral theology from those I respect.


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  110. Ukraine and Russia commence peace talks at Belarusian border

    It’s an ambush.
    Milla Jovovich will shoot all the Russkies while doing front flips.


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  111. A Google search for this person reveals the name and descriptor:

    Billi Fitzsimons
    Lisa Wilkinson’s Daughter

    Naturally, she is a writer. For Mamamia.


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  112. I was just having a discussion at pub earlier about the third and final sitting of the Council of Trent (1545-63), and this in particular:

    Prescriptions were given about pastoral care and the administration of the sacraments.

    Obviously, this is why chemists these days are so uppity.


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  113. They were also joined by Ten talent including Wilkinson’s Sunday Project co-hosts Hamish Macdonald and pregnant panellist Jan Fran, as well as Chris Taylor and Osher Gunsberg.

    The Australian reported other guests included ex-Sydney Morning Herald editor Lisa Davies, investigative reporter Kate McClymont, columnists Jacqueline Maley and Jane Caro, as well as outspoken former columnist, Mike ­Carlton.

    ABC names were said to include The Drum host Julia Baird, One Plus One host Kurt Fearnley, and Four Corners reporter Louise Milligan.

    All the chardonnay Socialists, who wouldn’t recognise a member of the working class if they fell over one in the street…Louise Milligan? Where do I know that name from?


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  114. Dot:

    I am probably on balance, an isolationist and I don’t want the UN to exist…at all. We’re better off with nukes and no allies. Switzerland but gone full ham. We certainly shouldn’t go to Ukraine or get dragged into ancillary conflict. Plus I don’t want to get lit up by hard X rays of a thermonuclear warhead exploding near me.

    Moving ever closer to that position myself. I no longer have trust in any of our institutions to even try to do the tasks they were formed to do.
    It looks like we will have to do the “drunk and waking up in the gutter trick” before we accept the reality of our position. It’s going to be painful.


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  115. The Jan 6 casualties took time to accrue.

    After learning that the FBI was looking for him, he immediately turned himself in. He entered the Capitol through a previously opened door (he did not break in as was reported) where he was ushered in by police. He didn’t break, touch, or steal anything. He did not harm anyone, as he stayed within the velvet ropes taking pictures. For this act he has been persecuted by many members of his community, friends, relatives, and people who had never met him. Many people were quietly supportive, and Matt was truly grateful for them. The constant delays in hearings, and postponements dragged out for over a year. Because of this, Matt’s heart broke and his spirit died, and many people are responsible for the pain he endured.

    For the scapegoats, the process is the punishment. Because nothing may spoil the narrative.
    Sure, he was blissfully naive about America, but is that really an excuse for those who pushed?


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  116. I like the cut of this bloke’s jib:

    I will never be gaslighted into believing this biological impossibility that a man can magically transform into a woman simply by saying so. And any so-called news outlet that spreads such an outrageous lie, such outrageous propaganda, cannot be trusted on anything.

    Again, you want to call yourself a girl? I don’t care. You want to refer to yourself as a she? I don’t care. But I will have no part of it, and anyone who does is either a liar, a coward, a propagandist, or all three.
    John Nolte at Breitbart in criticising the woke Fox News for describing a wapist as “she”.


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  117. Labor leader Antony Albanese and his girlfriend Jodie Haydon

    Albo has a girlfriend? Is that on contract, employee, and what are the Fringe Benefits?


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  118. List of anti-Russia propaganda we have seen thus far:
    – Ukrainian father crying as he hugged his daughter was actually a pro-Russian rebel in Donbas preparing to fight Nazi Azov Battalion
    – 13 Ukrainian soldiers “killed” on Snake Island actually surrendered and are alive and well
    – Russian tank that ran over civilian car in Kiev was a Strela-10 Ukrainian air defense system
    – Photos of Zelensky in military garb with a helmet on are from 2021 border inspection
    – Video of Ukrainian MiG-29 shooting down a Russian Su-35 was a Digital Combat Simulator animation
    – Russian cruise missile that blew up the side of a residential building was actually a Ukrainian air-defense missile fired by the Ukrainian military
    – Viral video of Ukrainian pilot shooting down Russian jet was a screen recording from Arma 3 video game
    – Russian supply convoy that Ukrainian military blew up was a Ukrainian convoy
    – Ukrainian military lied about blowing up 56 tanks that included General Tushayev
    – Russian jet bombing near residential homes appears to be a Ukrainian MiG-29 fighter targeting Russian troops

    Anyone got a list for the Russian propaganda?


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  119. Bruce O’Newk:

    Lefties have now decided that radioactive fallout isn’t as bad as catching Covid.
    FEMA: In Case Of Nuclear Explosion, Maintain Social Distancing And Wear A Mask (28 Feb)
    It’s a weird syndrome where anything lefties don’t like is literally worse than being nuked.

    FEMA has just announced it is ideologically unsound and not fit for purpose.
    Gut it.


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  120. Albo has a girlfriend? Is that on contract, employee, and what are the Fringe Benefits?

    Happy to be corrected, but wasn’t the first Mrs Albanese Deputy Premier of New South Wales? Isn’t that ” the big end of town”? The “big end of town” that Bill Shorten spent his days honking on about?


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  121. I have no idea what you’ve cleared up here

    Maybe you ought think a little harder instead of knee jerking to Putin at any given opportunity. You have suggested those states were in invited to join. They weren’t . They applied to join NATO.


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  122. A good summation – at the link – of the sinking of HMAS Perth, lost in action 80 years ago today. Hec Waller should have been given the Victoria Cross for his brave last stand. His fellow commander, Captain Rooks of the USS Houston, was awarded the Medal of Honor – the USA’s highest bravery award – for his actions as his ship also went down fighting nearby. Why was our man overlooked? He did not even receive his Mention in Despatches until after the war – Rooks was given his award mere months later.

    https://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-perth-i


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