Open Thread – Weekend 5 March 2022


Golden Autumn, Isaak Levitan, late 1800s

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Hugh
Hugh
March 5, 2022 1:01 pm

miltonf:
March 5, 2022 at 11:57 am
Hyundai still sells manuals, Toyota not anymore apart from the classic Landcruiser.

Hilux is still available in manual.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2022 1:02 pm

More than one restaurant fortune has been made on the importance of being seen at lunch. Likewise, the morning coffee at the height of the Melbourne gangland wars.

Kneel
Kneel
March 5, 2022 1:02 pm

“Their actions still have consequences and their mental state now is as dangerous as it was two years ago.
It’s denialism.
It’s weakness.”

No, Struth, no.

The best analogy I have is war – on a contentious basis.

Some believe and willingly enlist to “do their bit”.

Some are against it, but are conscripted – these are faced with a stark choice.
Either resist and immediately be punished financially and socially, along with those they have freely accepted responsibility to provide for and to protect.
Or to go anyway – hoping to avoid death or permanent, irreversible change to protect those they have freely accepted responsibility to provide for and to protect.

Like many such conscripts, I have chosen to risk everything for those I care about, rather than stand on principle and see those same ones suffer immediately.

It is the choice between bad and worse – there is no good choice. And while one choice has known and immediate consequences, the other has unknown future consequences that may not even eventuate, and may be restricted to the individual themselves.
So the majority pick bad over worse, now over the future, those they care for and about over themselves.
Yet you either fail or refuse to see this stark choice.
You fail to see or refuse to acknowledge that those who reluctantly comply are likely not doing so for personal benefit, but for the benefit of others.
You call us craven, stupid and in denial – we are not. We have done what we must, what we feel is our duty to others, even though we do not like it and would never freely choose it.
And you call us such names despite apparently having the resources to personally avoid the necessity of facing the same choice yourself.

So I ask you, in light of the above, who is craven? Who is stupid? And who is in denial? And I would suggest that the answer to all three is that it is you, not I.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2022 1:03 pm

Let’s say oil goes to $175 a barrel. That could mean $2.80 a liter here.

So what oil stocks do you buy into??
Or do you go hard for frackers because at similar US price increases the repubs will shit in the next election, never mind DeSantis they could run DeSatan himself.

dopey
dopey
March 5, 2022 1:03 pm

The Gatting ball. Doug Walters would have hit that over mid-wicket for six.

local oaf
March 5, 2022 1:04 pm

The rest goes into the bikkie jar on top of the fridge…

I’m starting to think that might be a good idea. Is it legal for Australians to buy gold bullion?

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2022 1:06 pm

Thanks JC. Perhaps you, me and mUnty can grab a steak if I make it back to Melbournibad. Bit of a problem getting back into WA at the moment.

JC
JC
March 5, 2022 1:08 pm

Mole, I have been accumulating a fracker start in the Texas oil patch, which is a place the White House lunatics can’t and won’t touch.

This a lose it all proposition or become really wealthy. I’ve been buying the crap out of it for the past 6 months.

JC
JC
March 5, 2022 1:09 pm

whoops frack starter..

JC
JC
March 5, 2022 1:09 pm

Bear

Anytime.

Makka
Makka
March 5, 2022 1:10 pm

So what oil stocks do you buy into??

Producers IMO. Once this Ukraine shit is finished the hot money will leave speccies like lightening as WTI shunts down hard from the spike. But solid producers will still be benefiting from still elevated crude prices and revenues.

srr
srr
March 5, 2022 1:10 pm

What “rail” is The Open Thread supposed to be on?

Isn’t “Open” supposed to be Open to all news, views & ideas and Open to having them vigorously challenged until The Contest of Ideas produces winners, losers & honourable mentions?

Or is it intended to be where The Official Lines are reinforced by the Social Pressure of Professional Propagandists and their draws of many socks?

Beertruk
March 5, 2022 1:11 pm

Helen Clark

The Man Woman.

I was working at RAAF Fairbairn and was having a beer in the RAAFie Sergeant Mess after work some time in 2000/2001. There were two RNZAF Sergeants having a beer and it had been announced that Helen Clarke had decided to shitcan the fighter arm of the RNZAF. The US had offered the Kiwis a brilliant deal on F16s, spares, training and maintenance training to replace the Skyhawks which the previous conservative government was going to sign. To say those two Kiwis were pissed off would be an understatement. There was a lot of colourful language about the Man Women’s ancestry and brain power, especially by the Kiwi female Sergeant.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2022 1:12 pm

I have been accumulating a fracker start in the Texas oil patch

Assuming a change in government means a big upside?
Or are you banking on everywhere but Texas getting strangled and scarcity as the upside?

Or just betting on a great find.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
March 5, 2022 1:14 pm

Some war analyst (Fred Kagan) says: [ https://youtu.be/YDElXTPm3VQ?t=676 ]

Along with the threat of sanctions, which were not effective in deterring him [Putin], the Biden administration worked hard to learn about – to penetrate – Russian plans to conduct information operations, to conduct false flag attacks, to try to assassinate Zelenskyy, to try to conduct a coup d’etat, and they publicised what they learned, they were fast to declassify intelligence and publicise all the Russian attempts to create this fictitious universe and to gaslight us and persuade us that all this was Ukraine’s fault, that the Ukrainians had prompted this. It was a very skilful campaign that the Biden administration ran.

How do we know that Kagan isn’t simply using JBP to whitewash and spread neocon war hawk propaganda to conservatives? Were there false flag attacks by Russia, or were there false flag attacks by Ukraine, or fake stories of Russian false flag attacks made up by Ukraine/USA, etc.
I guess this is why the information war is crucial prior to real war. People attach themselves to information sources and don’t easily change. Sucking people in to a source that can be twisted at short notice, or (in this case) being able to hijack an established credible player’s audience, is then important for establishing useful fog at convenient times.

Kagan later [20:10] reveals he is not simply dispassionately analytical but is advocating for (even “working for”) a Ukrainian victory.

The line that this invasion is an “unprovoked” aggression is plausible, but that doesn’t prove it.
It’s also somewhat irrelevant, as it shifts the focus away from international law and the Minsk agreements, where the assumption is that any invasion is not legal when the only provocation being alleged is activity on the Ukraine side of the fence, and so is an entirely domestic affair.
Just because various international and Ukrainian corrupt vested interests will benefit if Zelenskyy wins does not mean Putin is absolved of all wrongdoing.

The strong possibility that Russia will keep the areas it has already captured in the east as a consolation prize for ending the war is contrary to some of Putin’s stated rationale for (what started as) the “special operation”. Given that all the neo-Nazis (“Azov”) are in the western side of the country, a goal of de-Nazification isn’t convincing as a true motive of the invasion if Putin is willing to give up any possibility of achieving such a purge.

The theory advanced last week (h/t to whichever Cat posted it) by Kamil Galeev that Putin was banking on a quick win and underestimated the resistance and later escalation, with domestic machismo being his only real goal, is beginning to look like the true answer.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 1:14 pm

The Gatting ball. Doug Walters would have hit that over mid-wicket for six.

Watched it live. Could not believe my eyes, nor could Gatting.
On that length Walters would be playing back also, although yes Dougie liked to advance too.
Gatting was a little more sedate than Dougie though.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 1:14 pm

Rex Anger says:
March 5, 2022 at 1:35 am

I don’t think we’ll be hearing from Struth for a few days.

Ahem.

Yeah, sorry about that Cats.

I wasn’t abticipating a Kamikaze run.

Stroof must have been feeling his Death Gluten this morning.

And all because he’s spent the last 2 days deflecting from his angry (and particularly Nuffish) claim that people in this country were building DeAtH CaMpS on Day One of the covid crisis, when the first and only facility he can cling to at Wellcamp was privately built, not originally planned for quarantine purposes and appeared some 19 months later.

And an ASX-mandated financial report from the biggest freight railway company in Australia utterly exploded his other lie about railways being paid GoVeRnMeNt SuBsIdIeS in order to exist.

I am sorry that he has chosen to spoil your peace in response, Cats.

I’d ritually clot up and die if I could, but the accepted window is still some 13 months away…

Beertruk
March 5, 2022 1:15 pm

Doesn’t the Woomba have a flower festival? Maybe we can time the meeting to coincide with that.

September.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 5, 2022 1:17 pm

JC the Italians removed lane marking after a test showed people were more courteous without the markings coz they couldn’t prove to the insurers they were in the right. The accident rate went down. The road to the coast I use often used to be narrow tarmac with gravel 100kph, no centreline. Only saw the results of 2 prangs by obvious drunks. Now sealed lanes marked 80kph, bloody hopeless. Place your life in other peoples hands now, apart when wife drives and she is a hazard to everyone.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 1:19 pm

Was Warne jabbed, and when was he jabbed?

Nose beers, eh?
Warnie’s illegal substance use will be scrutinised now there’s speculation that he could be a Vaccine Casualty.
I’m wondering whether that “banned diuretic” he was suspended for was really a positive test for nose beers?

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 1:24 pm

Manuals are suited to people with 3 legs.
To all the others:
Stop being a total wanker and buy an Automatic.

JC
JC
March 5, 2022 1:24 pm

Mole

My thesis is that the Russians will win and the sanctions remain for at least another year or so. I also don’t think the Hidens will do anything to make US supplies materially more plentiful. If the minors have proven reserves they will sell quite well to the majors.

Just a bet.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 1:25 pm

I’m starting to think that might be a good idea. Is it legal for Australians to buy gold bullion?

It certainly is. I recently got some from the Perth Mint.

It’s pretty easy in WA, as thru Perth Mint, you can either purchase a right to a quantity online and trade it, or order physical bullion for personal storage, delivery to you or some limited storage onsite. And if you want to convert your bullion to a quantity of cash, you roll in and they will buy it off you. They will buy gold jewellery too.

I’m not sure what options are available on the East Coast, but I cannot imagine that there are not similar sevices in Sydney/Melbourne/Canberra.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 1:27 pm

Given that all the neo-Nazis (“Azov”) are in the western side of the country

Yes, yes they are. 😀

Tattoo on his right collar bone is the lightning bolts, the one on the left is an SS captain rank insignia. He also has a Nazi eagle lower down on his RHS upper chest.

Nazis are literally fighting Nazis, which is just what you might expect in the 21stC.

Clutching pearls, peoples, is silly in this fight. Both sides are rather fruity.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
March 5, 2022 1:28 pm

The Gatting ball. Doug Walters would have hit that over mid-wicket for six.

Doug could bat and he could drink. He was responsible for one of the worserer hangovers that I have ever had.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
March 5, 2022 1:30 pm

I took a walk through Parramatta and I too found it depressing.
Mind you this was some years ago.

Cassie of Sydney
March 5, 2022 1:31 pm

Dear slag heap…….it will work hoth ways. You are a liar, a fraud and a fantasist. And you support Bird’s anti-Semitisn….nice that has been cleared up.

bespoke
bespoke
March 5, 2022 1:31 pm

Makkasays:
March 5, 2022 at 12:08 pm
Right on cue, that grotesque jug eared imbecile in Victoria has demanded a state funeral for Warnie.
That I’d support. No better cricket mind alive today.

Not me Makka. This tradition is a gross spectacle of public disingenuousness. And should be if at all reserved for a much higher standard.

Plus Dan’s fans will being calling for one for him.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 1:32 pm

Putin isn’t a Nazi, but Zelenskyy and his predecessors Yats and Poroshenko ha]ve been arming Nazi Death Squads in Ukraine for a while.
They have a long history, the Soviet Union didn’t exterminate the CIA funded Nazi threat in Galicia until 1955.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
March 5, 2022 1:32 pm

I’m starting to think that might be a good idea. Is it legal for Australians to buy gold bullion?

– local oaf.

Yes, of course. Right now might not be the best time to buy as the spot price is grading upwards day by day, but physical gold has traditionally been regarded as a safe haven during troubled times.

Buy from the Perth Mint or Royal Australian Mint, reasonable markup, quality guaranteed.

Never, ever purchase sight unseen from online “dealers”. I have seen some unbelievably good counterfeits fool expert gold buyers.

dopey
dopey
March 5, 2022 1:33 pm

Bruce. With proper technique Gatting could have played the ball comfortably, bat and pad together.

miltonf
miltonf
March 5, 2022 1:33 pm

Church Street near Lennox Bridge is still a lot of fun. It will be even more fun when the mess made laying the woftam tram is cleared up

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 5, 2022 1:33 pm

I loved how Ken Worth and Dribs were posting at the same time yesterday so we’re supposed to think they’re different people. I used to feel sorry for Ken when the lockdown started but no longer. He got bitter when it didn’t happen according to his narrative. Must have been brought up a mummies boy. Everyone is out of step but Ken.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2022 1:36 pm

srr:

These Senators should all be made a massive example and excommunicated, they aren’t Catholic in any meaningful or even remotely meaningful way and yet they’re allowed to present themselves as Catholic and allowed by the Bishops,”

A point I have made over the years. The failure of the church to robustly defend itself is one of the reasons it is losing the fight.
Why the Hell should I join an organisation that refuses to defend itself but expects me to do so?

miltonf
miltonf
March 5, 2022 1:38 pm

I’m sure Mannix would have excommunicated Andrews

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
March 5, 2022 1:38 pm

Kneel,
Have you been jabbed?
No more upticks for you.
Rules is rules.

Hugh
Hugh
March 5, 2022 1:39 pm

Pedro the Loafer:
March 5, 2022 at 1:32 pm

Never, ever purchase sight unseen from online “dealers”. I have seen some unbelievably good counterfeits fool expert gold buyers.

How do they counterfeit gold? Genuine question.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 1:42 pm

Colonel Crispin Berka says:
March 5, 2022 at 1:14 pm

Thanks for the read from Kamil Galeev, CCB.

It’s interesting that of what I’ve read from the while affair so far, he’s the only one who’s looked at the mental and motivational aspects of the fight. What he calls the ‘mythos’ in his thread.

Fascinating. 🙂

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 5, 2022 1:42 pm

Better buying gold coin as the government can still claim gold as a reserve in bullion form but not legal tender. Pay a premium of course. My old lawyer had a huge old gold coin collection for that reason.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 1:42 pm

Bruce. With proper technique Gatting could have played the ball comfortably, bat and pad together.

Dopey – Yes. I think it was a surprise. I did this once, one of those memorable moments. We hosted a vacation student – she was a lanky lass A grade in the Melbourne ladies comp, so a few of us would go down after work to nets. I normally like to bowl medium pace, but at nets liked to mix it up. She was handling the medium pace very well. Soes I thinks to myself I’ll try a Warnie leggie. Which I can get maybe fifty fifty.

Nailed it perfectly just as she did the double step down the wicket to hoist it over long on.
Wiff! I have never seen a more confused face on a cricketer, male nor female….

local oaf
March 5, 2022 1:42 pm

It certainly is. I recently got some from the Perth Mint.

Sounds good.

I used to wonder whether those $200 gold coins the mint put out were actually worth $200 if they were melted down for the gold. Or whether it was just a convention like a banknote where the government promised to pay you $200 for one.

I bought one, but gave it to mum when she wanted to give one to each of the grandkids. What would it be worth now, would it even have kept pace with inflation?

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 5, 2022 1:43 pm

hoping to avoid death or permanent, irreversible change

Hope is not a strategy. Better to take the lifestyle hit up front while still having your health.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 5, 2022 1:45 pm

How do they counterfeit gold? Genuine question.

Gold plated tungsten.
The specific gravity of gold and tungsten is very nearly the same

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 5, 2022 1:46 pm

Nut Case can’t breathe and work the feet at the same time.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2022 1:49 pm

Wodger:

Orban, sensibly, has drawn the obvious but disquieting conclusion – the US (& NATO) cannot be counted on to defend even member states on the periphery of W. Europe if the risk is deemed too great.

It;s time for the middle European nations to form their own defence arrangement.
Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania, Ukraine and the rest.
Belarus is the odd man out.
Honestly, if they don’t hang together…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 5, 2022 1:50 pm

H B Bearsays:

March 5, 2022 at 1:02 pm

More than one restaurant fortune has been made on the importance of being seen at lunch.

FMD!
Tell me about it.
Just spent three hours last night (and north of $350) putting up with a couple of blowhards who booked the particular restaurant for that reason.
Roped in by family and it only happens when I positively can’t avoid it.
The big dilemma.
Do we book the private room to indicate high table status, but risk not being seen?
Or do we book a table out with the regular blowhards and try one-up them with the wine purchase?

Hugh
Hugh
March 5, 2022 1:51 pm

Thanks Eyrie.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
March 5, 2022 1:53 pm

I learnt to drive crashboxes.
Don’t see them around much now.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2022 1:54 pm

Yesterday on their ABCcess they had one of those dreary “Aunties” on to wibble ablout “First nations representation in the LGBT peak groups”..

As per the usual script this lady wanted to complain ‘when i looked around the room (in some inner city enclave) I couldnt see myself being reflected back, there was no-one else of my background there”….

a few points.
Aboriginals make up 3.3% of the population (including numerous Pascoes)
Apparently 44% live country areas 9not including remote) which was her second whine.
So being charitable that leaves a 2% chance of her “seeing herself reflected”.
But wait, theres also her licker license to take into account, apparently 3% of the population.
Thats something like a 0.06% chance of “seeing herself’.
Good to see the ABC tackling the big, mainstream issues.

Narcissism , its not just for breakfast anymore.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 1:55 pm

The specific gravity of gold and tungsten is very nearly the same

Which is why, if you take a gold bar to a gold buyer, he’ll put it in an ultrasonic imager.

Kneel
Kneel
March 5, 2022 1:55 pm

“Do you guys keen on manuals want manual mixture adjust and ignition timing too?”

Nope – all for computer engine management. Best thing since sliced bread, especially in a manual in traffic.

Manuals change the way you drive – you need considerably more situational awareness to ensure you are in the right gear. Should be required to obtain your license in a manual IMO, because, unless you have the physical coordination of a spastic in a tumble drier, it’s not that difficult to drive one, and the aforementioned situational awareness is a great accident prevention skill.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 1:56 pm

I used to wonder whether those $200 gold coins the mint put out were actually worth $200 if they were melted down for the gold.

Depends what is in them.

If it was an actual 1/4 oz gold coin or something like that, the value may be somewhat greater now.

P
P
March 5, 2022 1:56 pm

Jack Posobiec @JackPosobiec · 50m
Omg
Quote TweetFox News@FoxNews · 2h
Amid Russia war on Ukraine, Bill Clinton relaunching Clinton Global Initiative
https://foxnews.com/politics/bill-clinton-global-foundation-pandemic-
ukraine-russia-war

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1499927655361261569

53m
Bill Clinton just announced the Clinton Global Initiative is coming back online and that is all the confirmation we need that Hillary is running

Winston Smith
March 5, 2022 1:56 pm

Calli:

Do they mean an “open mind”? How open? One that dispenses with scientific method because old and busted?

…and if you aren’t there, your absence will be noted.
This is how a civilisation crashes – when a minority have used entryism to the extent they can coerce a majority.
There’s no open mind here, Calli. This is naked coercion.
Sell the CSIRO.

Des Deskperson
Des Deskperson
March 5, 2022 1:59 pm

I have just visited Canberra’s – almost certainly – wokest shopping centre in what his probably Canberra’s wokest suburb: Ainslie.

While the precinct is larded with vote David Pocock posters, I took a crumb of comfort from the fact that only about 1 in 20 persons were still masked.

Most of those masked seemed, from their dress and deportment, to have various ‘issues’, including in terms of weight, cleanliness, grooming and taste.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 2:00 pm

Bill Clinton just announced the Clinton Global Initiative is coming back online and that is all the confirmation we need that Hillary is running

The Democrat bloodletting between now and November 2024 is gonna be spectacular…

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 5, 2022 2:03 pm

miltonf says:
March 5, 2022 at 12:05 pm
My grandfather said ‘the ladies like the automatics’

I’ve got an auto ute, truck and just about every piece of our rolling gear is some type of non gear drive system.
“I’m a lady”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2022 2:04 pm

There were two RNZAF Sergeants having a beer and it had been announced that Helen Clarke had decided to shitcan the fighter arm of the RNZAF.

Didn’t the Royal Australian Air Force pick up a few Kiwi fighter pilots out of that ?

JC
JC
March 5, 2022 2:04 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
March 5, 2022 at 1:55 pm

The specific gravity of gold and tungsten is very nearly the same

Which is why, if you take a gold bar to a gold buyer, he’ll put it in an ultrasonic imager.

Or place a magnet on it, Brucie. Gold is not magnetic.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
March 5, 2022 2:04 pm

How do they counterfeit gold? Genuine question.

– Hugh.
There are many ways to disguise base metals as gold and has been done for thousands of years.
Fortunately, modern technology has killed off the more obvious counterfeit attempts, but the practice still continues, like this example from 2017;
Chinese sellers were buying genuine gold bars from reputable brokers, hollowing out the interior of the bar and replacing it with tungsten, which has a specific gravity and density that matches that of 99% gold.
The bars had proper serial numbers, papers and hallmarks and the exterior tested as 99% pure. The scam was only detected when a bar was subjected to electronic testing. Many millions of dollars worth of counterfeit had been sold before somebody decided to properly test the bars.
Ancient gold coins have been melted down with a portion of the gold content removed and replaced with silver and recast. Old coins had no standard purity level so a lot of these recast coins found their way into the market, unfortunately worthless once detected.

There is a very sophisticated method of blending gold and tungsten using high tech methods that is extremely difficult to detect, but I am not going into detail for obvious reasons.

Buy from the Mint and you won’t get dudded.

Makka
Makka
March 5, 2022 2:05 pm

This tradition is a gross spectacle of public disingenuousness.

There is genuine respect for Warnie, that’s why I’m ok with it. He’s a true legend.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2022 2:06 pm

Pro-Putin?

or

pro Ukraine?

or

Both?

Something to upset everybody

Kneel
Kneel
March 5, 2022 2:06 pm

“Kneel,
Have you been jabbed?”

Yes, as I noted at the cat at the time.
For reasons as outlined.
Didn’t want it, but coercion worked on me under my circumstances.
You may, of course, apply or withhold you upticks as you desire. I would hope that would be based on the content of each post, but do as you will.

bespoke
bespoke
March 5, 2022 2:09 pm

“I’m a lady”

Yes!

But not for that it’s because you’re to chicken to come out an declare your love for Woodstock cans, Gez.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
March 5, 2022 2:10 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says: March 5, 2022 at 1:27 pm

Both sides are rather fruity.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FM1k71KVEAUI9-b?format=jpg&name=small

I was going to quibble about your use of 9gag as source of unimpeachable wartime intelligence, until I realised I’d just cited an ex-Peking University grad on Twitter. Such is life.

Well if that alliance is true it just reinforces my point that Putin’s stated goals are not credible.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2022 2:10 pm

unless you have the physical coordination of a spastic in a tumble drier

I see you have met my wife then.

jupes
jupes
March 5, 2022 2:10 pm

Peter Campion got this in the Cairns post.
36 ooo circulation.

Cardi. Arguably the most influential Cat.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 5, 2022 2:10 pm

Des Deskpersonsays:
March 5, 2022 at 1:59 pm

Great to see you here Des.
A 1 to 20 ratio is actually less than I see here in inner Melbourne, world centre of excellence for virtue-signalling stupidity.

bespoke
bespoke
March 5, 2022 2:12 pm

Makkasays:
March 5, 2022 at 2:05 pm
This tradition is a gross spectacle of public disingenuousness.

There is genuine respect for Warnie, that’s why I’m ok with it. He’s a true legend.

I get that but it’s the ones expoiting it.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
March 5, 2022 2:13 pm

The mask madness continues in WA, even in my little country town.

Diogenes
Diogenes
March 5, 2022 2:14 pm

Been out all morning and catching up…

Wrt the convoy, the puzzle is not why had it stopped , and seriously even if it were Dodgy tyres, why aren’t they moving them off the side of the road and moving on? Don’t the Russians need the stuff in the convoy? Second puzzle, no cam netting up, I know of lot of modern gear can make cam useless, but seriously why make it easy? The third is why no attacks,? none of the footage has shown any AA, nor can I see any disturbed ground for shell scrapes for the drivers.

Wrt to masks only very very oldies wearing them at Kawana Shopping centre and in beautiful downtown Caloundra.

Hugh
Hugh
March 5, 2022 2:17 pm

Thank you for the detailed explanation Pedro.

And thanks for the link to the tester Bruce.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 2:21 pm

There is a very sophisticated method of blending gold and tungsten using high tech methods that is extremely difficult to detect, but I am not going into detail for obvious reasons.

Hand-held XRF spectrometers are getting cheaper.
Would pick up a W Au mix immediately.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2022 2:21 pm

The mask madness continues in WA, even in my little country town.

Pharaoh tells the slaves mask madness may well last for years…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2022 2:21 pm

Is the USA/ West engaged in displacement with Russia?

3psychology
a: the redirection of an emotion or impulse from its original object (such as an idea or person) to another

Russia is a shitty kleptocracy fighting another fairly shitty country.

Is the US/West in general engaging in poo flinging so loudly over this because it helps soothe the mental pain of having offshored a massive chunk of their productive economies to China, which has actually engaged in near genocide of an ethic population.
And at the same time actively engaging in economic warfare and quite old fashioned realpolitik to advance their cause.

And because w are no so dependent on cheap plastic dogshit all the great and good have had to ignore their “values” because they know they might have to personally take a hit if they were serious about the issues.

So along comes a nice simple “Russia is the bad guy” narrative they can get all hairy chested about and all that pent up realization of their impotence against China has a new target.

Beertruk
March 5, 2022 2:21 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha:
March 5, 2022 at 2:04 pm

Didn’t the Royal Australian Air Force pick up a few Kiwi fighter pilots out of that ?

I believe so Zulu.
The ADF would have fast tracked their Australian citizenship for it to happen.
Prior to 1982/3 you could keep your British or New Zealand citizenship and be in the ADF. After 82/83 it changed and you had to be an Australian citizen.
One of my wife’s Kiwi cousins was in the Army at the same unit I was posted to at that time, and she elected to take discharge. Fast forward to 2020, she, her daughter and granddaughter decided to become Australian citizens. Go figure. 😉

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2022 2:23 pm

Greens candidate Mandy Nolan joked Hitler ‘had fun’
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11:00PM March 4, 2022
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A Greens candidate joked that Adolf Hitler “had fun” in an opinion piece she later videoed herself reading.

Federal party leader Adam Bandt is standing by candidate Mandy Nolan after the video prompted calls from a Jewish group for her resignation.

Ms Nolan, a comedian, made the comment in a video rendition of an opinion piece published in the independent newspaper Byron Shire Echo in which she discusses the frustration of ­explaining to her teenage daughter the need to balance fun and ­responsibility.

“Just look at Hitler. He had fun. He did whatever he wanted to do,” she said in the video uploaded to YouTube in August 2011. “Just ask six million Jews how they feel about that now and he still didn’t get his sociopathic fill – you just can’t do it, it’s ­unethical.”

Anti-Defamation Commission chairman Dvir Abramovich said Ms Nolan’s comments were indefensible and called on Mr Bandt to disendorse her.

“The Holocaust deserves greater respect and should not be debased or degraded in such a way, and for any individual to generate laughter at the expense of those who have suffered enough is obscene,” he said.

“Holocaust survivors who have lost families and loved ones in the concentration camps would not find Ms Nolan’s ­remarks funny and would be deeply hurt to know that anyone has used the slaughter of millions for cheap giggles.”

Ms Nolan is running in the seat of Richmond, which covers the northern NSW towns of ­Ballina, Byron Bay, Lennox Head, Mullumbimby, Murwillumbah and Tweed Heads.

Mr Bandt said Ms Nolan would make a great member for Richmond, and stressed that her comments clearly condemned anti-Semitism and people acting without regard for others.

“Mandy has a strong history of fighting anti-Semitism and fascism, and has apologised for any distress caused by her comments,” he said.

Ms Nolan is a performer, comedian, MC, writer, author, artist, teacher, ambassador and activist, according to her candidate website. She apologised for causing offence and said she was proud of her record of fighting against anti-Semitism.

“I apologise if this clumsy metaphor, retelling my frustrated attempts to teach my teenage daughter that she needs to consider her actions, caused any ­offence to the Jewish community,” she said.

“It was certainly not intended. In the remark Hitler was used as an example of a dangerous sociopath who had no moral compass.”

calli
calli
March 5, 2022 2:24 pm

Something to upset everybody

I’m with Montenegro.

Bluey
Bluey
March 5, 2022 2:25 pm

Diogenessays:
March 5, 2022 at 2:14 pm
Been out all morning and catching up…

Wrt the convoy, the puzzle is not why had it stopped , and seriously even if it were Dodgy tyres, why aren’t they moving them off the side of the road and moving on? Don’t the Russians need the stuff in the convoy? Second puzzle, no cam netting up, I know of lot of modern gear can make cam useless, but seriously why make it easy? The third is why no attacks,? none of the footage has shown any AA, nor can I see any disturbed ground for shell scrapes for the drivers.

Wrt to masks only very very oldies wearing them at Kawana Shopping centre and in beautiful downtown Caloundra.

From what I’ve pieced together, there was an initial plan of ~2 weeks, that included bold move like airborne forces to seize areas. Now is consolidation, refit and rearm, and adjusting plans based on the progress that’s been made. That’s about as far as I’m game to speculate ATM.

Kneel
Kneel
March 5, 2022 2:29 pm

“I see you have met my wife then.”

No Mole, not that I know of. But that type, most definitely.

ArthurB
ArthurB
March 5, 2022 2:30 pm

Re Duggie’s drinking feats: a relative of mine who was acquainted with K D Walters said that whereas most drinkers buy their beer by the carton (or slab), Duggie used to buy it by the pallet.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 5, 2022 2:30 pm

bespoke says:
March 5, 2022 at 2:09 pm
“I’m a lady”
Yes!

But not for that it’s because you’re to chicken to come out an declare your love for Woodstock cans, Gez.

Lucky for me it’s recycle bin day on Monday.
You’ll never know.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2022 2:30 pm

Also some of that displacement would come from most governments having acted like dictatorial shits throughout the pandemic.

Oh come on
Oh come on
March 5, 2022 2:31 pm

Agree that manuals are way more fun to drive. Double-clutching to set yourself up for fast cornering or when you want the engine to do the braking rather than the middle peddle – you can’t do this stuff with a slush box.

(I know some modern sports manuals have push-button rev-matching tech but it’s far more satisfying to do it yourself.)

And yeah I get that an auto with a hydraulic clutch is going to shift gears way faster than a human ever could, so you’re better off with the machine doing the work for you. Hell, even when it comes to conventional autos, modern torque converters are far more efficient than they used to be, so the performance/fuel economy gap between manuals and autos isn’t as compelling as it was in the past.

There’s also the fact that the vast majority of cars sold new now are autos – soon, they all will be with the exception of specialist vehicles. If I bought a regular car with a manual transmission today, I’d be worried about resale, as it seems more and more buyers don’t want a manual box. So everything is pushing towards going with the auto.

But manuals are simply more fun. Even if you’re driving an older car that’s slow and boring – just working the box to wring what you can out of it makes the drive more enjoyable.

Kneel
Kneel
March 5, 2022 2:36 pm

“…even if it were Dodgy tyres, why aren’t they moving them off the side of the road and moving on? “

More to the point: what genius decided that taking up the entire road – instead of enforcing a “free” lane, just in case – was a good idea? They aren’t that bad at logistics planning after their defeat in Afghanistan, surely. Begs the question: is it deliberate – either to justify retaliation, or as a trap. Dunno, but it’s sure weird to see what look like such “beginner” mistakes.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
March 5, 2022 2:36 pm

Hand-held XRF spectrometers are getting cheaper.
Would pick up a W Au mix immediately.

BoN.

Even suburban pawnbrokers have a spectrometer these days, and are almost impossible to fool.
They will usually test your suspect gold for you even if you are not a customer.

The eyeball/SG/weight test will not cut it.

Beertruk
March 5, 2022 2:37 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
March 5, 2022 at 2:06 pm

Something to upset everybody

FFS MOLE!!! I just spat beer over the monitor.
You are getting the invoice for the cleaning. 😀

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 2:40 pm

Wrt the convoy, the puzzle is not why had it stopped , and seriously even if it were Dodgy tyres, why aren’t they moving them off the side of the road and moving on?

Diogenes – In the photos I see they tend to keep a lane free, and the rest of the vehicles are parked in the other lane. But also if they try to go off the tarmac the results appear to be bad. It’s early in the season, but already looks like the road base on the sides is getting unstable and muddy.

Don’t the Russians need the stuff in the convoy?

The Ukrainians blew the bridges to Kiev, so it’s difficult to get mechanized infantry and armour into the city.

Second puzzle, no cam netting up, I know of lot of modern gear can make cam useless, but seriously why make it easy?

Not much point, they’re sitting on the equivalent of the Pacific Hwy. They can’t go off it without getting stuck in mud.

The third is why no attacks,? none of the footage has shown any AA, nor can I see any disturbed ground for shell scrapes for the drivers.

The reports are the Ukrainian Air Force are still in the air, but it’s obvious they dare not go near the northern sector. Russian S-300s are deadly, plus several other systems. There seem to’ve been a few strikes against the convoy, but pretty rare. Some infantry raids too. But between lack of fuel, bad tyres and no bridges the convoy seems stuck. If they don’t patrol sufficiently the Ukrainian raiders will have a fun time with them if this situation continues.

Once in the AAR it was a weekend. The call went out for volunteers. Me, being a poor student said pick me! They did. So I spent two days being lectured by OCTU candidates in “patrolling”. Boring at the time although I got paid for it. But now I’ve been reading about the experience of the AIF in New Guinea do I understand. Patrolling Aussies ate the Japanese like a mouse plague in NSW. Quite amazing how powerful the tactic was.

I don’t know if the Russians are doing this north of Kiev, but if they aren’t they’re screwed.

(Iirc Diogenes you may’ve reached an august AAR rank that I only dreamt of, so forgive me if I’m telling you to suck eggs.)

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 5, 2022 2:43 pm

OCO

But manuals are simply more fun. Even if you’re driving an older car that’s slow and boring – just working the box to wring what you can out of it makes the drive more enjoyable.

In one of the old VW Beetles going up a hill, the driver’s left shoulder had him “rowing” up the hill. Interesting in a theoretical sense, but not necessarily fun if it was loaded up.

Speedbox
March 5, 2022 2:46 pm

Bluey says:
March 5, 2022 at 2:25 pm
From what I’ve pieced together, there was an initial plan of ~2 weeks, that included bold move like airborne forces to seize areas. Now is consolidation, refit and rearm, and adjusting plans based on the progress that’s been made. That’s about as far as I’m game to speculate ATM.

Go here:

https://www.understandingwar.org/

Dispassionate descriptions. Compared to what you will hear on the MSM, you may wonder whether the MSM are even talking about the same conflict.

Today’s summary:

Key Takeaways

Russian forces have advanced rapidly on the eastern outskirts of Kyiv likely from the Sumy axis and may attempt to encircle and/or attack the capital on the east bank of the Dnipro in the coming 24-48 hours;

Russian troops did not press a ground offensive against Kharkiv in the last 24 hours but have instead diverted forces to the west and southeast, likely supporting efforts against Kyiv and in and around Donbas respectively;

Russian troops have surrounded Mariupol and are attacking it brutally to compel its capitulation or destroy it;

Russian forces have renewed their ground advance on Mykolayiv, having secured Kherson city, likely to set conditions for a further attack toward Odesa. Russian naval infantry are likely poised to conduct amphibious landings near Odesa when Russian forces have secured or are close to securing a reliable ground route from Crimea to Odesa.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2022 2:51 pm

Key lessons from the first ten days of the Russia-Ukraine WarDavid Kilcullen

11:00PM March 4, 2022
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I spent the first few days of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine with US colleagues who specialise in irregular and resistance warfare. Simultaneously, the federation of Afghanistan veterans I have worked with since the fall of Kabul – who had managed to evacuate several dozen Afghan families to Kyiv, of all places – activated on-the-ground reporting networks across Ukraine to give evacuees and their helpers an understanding of the situation. While that effort has been humanitarian, focused on helping civilians escape the fighting, some obvious military lessons have also emerged. Based on that, here are my top lessons from the first 10 days of the war.

Russia just pulled off its own ‘reset’

Russian President Vladimir Putin ditched the Crimea playbook last week. The incremental, hybrid warfare that has been Russia’s hallmark since the “little green men” seized the peninsula in 2014 – a form of warfare tailored to do just enough, ambiguously enough, to achieve limited goals without triggering a response – is out the window.

Instead, we saw a massive, multi-domain, five-pronged offensive by land, air, sea, cyber and electronic attack, supported by missile strikes, amphibious landings and helicopter assaults.

Stealth suddenly gave way to speed, surprise and violence of ­action, as Russian forces sought to overwhelm and intimidate Ukrainian defenders through sheer weight of fire and metal.

This surprised me, as it surprised many Russia-watchers, given how radical a change it represents from Putin’s past practice. It’s possible that Putin only decided to invade in strength after the disastrous mid-January press conference when US President Joe Biden effectively gave a green light to what he called a “minor incursion”, but there is nothing minor about this invasion.

By telegraphing so unequivocally that any military response was off the table, US and European leaders may have emboldened Russia to risk the major offensive we now see.

It’s already clear that Russia has reset the game. This is changing the calculus for every NATO nation, especially the Scandinavian and Baltic states that might be next on Moscow’s menu. Sweden, Norway, Latvia, Poland and Estonia have offered increased military assistance to Ukraine, Finnish leaders are talking about joining NATO, while the alliance activated part of its 40,000 strong NATO Response Force – the high-readiness manoeuvre formation created in 2002 but mobilised for the first time this year.

Economic sanctions failed to deter

Despite Biden’s claim to the contrary in his first press conference after the outbreak of war, the threat of US economic sanctions was very clearly intended to deter a Russian invasion – Biden himself, Vice-President Kamala Harris, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan all said so, in as many words, as recently as the day before the invasion.

Washington has been criticised for years for its over-reliance on economic means, its penchant for fixing every problem with sanctions or tariffs, and the assumption that economic pain – for a targeted “enemy” population and for US and allied businesses and consumers – will be enough to deter an adversary from aggression. Clearly, in this case, sanctions proved woefully inadequate to deter a leader, Putin, who views NATO encroachment as a matter of national survival, regards recovering Russia’s lost greatness as his life’s mission, and sees a window of opportunity to act against a weakened West in the wake of last year’s Afghanistan debacle.

Despite failing to deter, once imposed, sanctions did have a significant effect on ordinary Russians and elites alike. Ukrainian leaders initially warned economic measures would take too long to bite, insisting they needed ammunition and military support now. Sanctions are indeed unlikely to work on their own, even as they contribute to rising petrol prices, inflation, and further disruption to global supply chains that depend on commodities from Russia and Ukraine. Arguably, the dogged Ukrainian defence of the past 10 days slowed Russia’s offensive to the point where economic measures may now have a meaningful impact on Moscow’s ability to continue the war. Still, flows of military equipment (including lethal defensive weapons) from the EU, NATO and individual countries are likely to matter more.

Pulling out the trip-wire weakened deterrence

A few weeks ago, the US military withdrew the small contingent of trainers – about 250 soldiers from the Florida National Guard – that had been working with Ukrainian forces. Likewise, a contingent of British trainers under Operation Orbital pulled out last week, and Western diplomatic staff withdrew, while the US embassy in Kyiv located to Lviv in far western Ukraine. While the troops themselves could have made little practical difference, they represented a “trip-wire” – an element deployed forward with a partner, so that any attack on that partner risks a broader military response, raising the stakes for an adversary thinking of aggression. In this case, NATO troops or diplomats being caught in the crossfire would not have triggered the Article 5 collective defence clause of the North Atlantic treaty, which is reserved for attacks on NATO member countries, but it might have given Moscow pause. There is little likelihood of NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine in the immediate future, of course, but pulling these small contingents out just as the invasion seemed imminent probably didn’t help.

Russian leaders were overconfident

As the invasion kicked off last it became clear that Russian commanders were massively overconfident, failing to commit most of their troops and neglecting to apply the heavy weight of firepower called for in their military doctrine. They seem to have planned for a lightning seizure of key locations, attempting to “bounce” the capture of Hostomel Airport outside Kyiv in the first hours of the assault, even before achieving air superiority.

The failure at Hostomel cost them dearly, leading to the failure of an assault on the capital by their elite airborne troops – known as “VDV” and a separate branch of Russia’s armed forces – along with separate setbacks in the cities of Kharkhiv and Kherson. The simultaneous amphibious landings on Ukraine’s southern coast likewise failed to secure the cities of Odessa and Mariupol, while ground offensives from the east and north initially fell short of their intended objectives.

Russia’s extended deployment over the past year – positioning ground forces all around Ukraine’s border, with amphibious ships and naval infantry coming from the Baltic and Far East to threaten Ukraine’s Black Sea and Azov coasts – was clearly designed to give Moscow the widest possible range of options, preventing Kyiv from concentrating its forces against a single offensive. But it was also a dangerous play, running the risk of defeat in detail for Russian columns too dispersed to support each other. When the campaign stalled, a victim of ill-founded Russian confidence that Ukraine would be a pushover, the dispersed assault made it difficult to concentrate behind any one thrust.

Ukraine 2022 is not Ukraine 2014

That Ukrainian forces fought so determinedly and well – inflicting losses on the Russians, by some calculations, in an eight-to-one ratio, destroying hundreds of armoured vehicles and helicopters, and shooting down multiple aircraft – emphasises that Ukraine in 2022 is not the Ukraine of 2014-15. Back then, a wave of volunteers flocked to defend Ukraine’s independence, and there was an improvised, ramshackle, thrown-together quality to the country’s defence. Those early efforts bear little resemblance to the professionalised Ukrainian armed forces of today, which have grown more twenty-fold since 2014 and now have capable armoured forces, anti-armour troops, air defences, special forces and territorial units. Perhaps most importantly, the ­Soviet-style operational culture of Ukraine’s military in 2014 has been replaced, to a large degree, with a more flexible and unconventional small-unit approach that has proven highly effective.

Territorial troops, tasked to defend local areas against invasion, now number 25 brigades and are deployed in every part of Ukraine, while manoeuvre forces – though obviously outclassed in size by Russian troops – are dramatically better-equipped, trained and led.

Likewise, as the defiance of President Volodymyr Zelensky and the heroism of Ukrainian units and civilians has shown, Ukrainians are united in the face of aggression and determined to defend their ­independence.

The Russians suck at SEAD

For all their superiority in air power, Russian forces have so far proven exceptionally poor at what military planners call “suppression of enemy air defences” (SEAD, pronounced “see-add”) – a critical early stage in any campaign, where an attacker seeks to overwhelm anti-aircraft systems. SEAD enables freedom of movement for strike aircraft and, ultimately, enables the air superiority needed to conduct air strikes, manoeuvre forces by helicopter, evacuate wounded and bring logistic support forward.

The lack of attention to SEAD was a symptom of Russian overconfidence but it also surprised many Russia-watchers who expected greater emphasis on this critical effort from a force that has fought in Syria since 2015.

Western air forces worry that 20 years of the war on terrorism – against adversaries lacking aircraft, and often with limited air defences – might have made them complacent about anti-aircraft fire. Russian planners seem to be learning the lesson the hard way.

Road-bound columns are bound to die

Somewhat less surprising has been the road-bound nature of Russian ground manoeuvre, with long columns of tanks and armoured vehicles snaking along highways and sticking to main roads, only to be ambushed and destroyed or delayed by defenders able to predict their moves simply by looking at a map or, in some cases early in the war, watching Google traffic data to identify a column’s location.

This style of manoeuvre has been characteristic of the Russian Army since the Chechen War of the 1990s, and was a key weakness in the conflict in Georgia in 2008. Given weather and terrain conditions – this is spring in Ukraine, a wet and muddy season when off-road manoeuvre is difficult – it’s not surprising to see the same road-centric approach here. But unless Russian forces adapt quickly, they will continue to suffer serious losses as a result.

Ukrainian special ops proved their worth

US and other NATO special operators trained Ukraine’s special forces for several years after 2014, only to be pulled out last year. But it may be that the Ukrainian special forces had their finest hour on the very first morning of the war, when they blunted the VDV assault on Hostomel airport outside Kyiv, forcing the Russians to delay a planned airlanding operation that would have seized the airport and put them in the capital by noon on the war’s first day. This style of operation, known as a coup de main, is characteristic of the Russian approach and was seen in several fronts of the offensive.

The idea is to quickly seize critical sites using special troops, rapidly reinforce with conventional columns, and thereby quickly destroy an adversary’s morale. The assumed success of these early coup de main operations may partly explain why Russian commanders thought it was safe to move on the main roads.

By preventing them, Ukrainian special forces, and conventional manoeuvre units who joined in the battle at Hostomel, threw the whole invasion plan off-kilter, saving Kyiv (at least for the time being) and forcing the Russians into the slow, grinding slog they are now enduring in several cities.

Urban guerrillas are in the forecast

Those cities are rapidly becoming a battleground for urban guerrillas, as Ukrainian citizens answer their government’s call to take up arms, form paramilitary defence groups in partnership with defenders from local territorial brigades, and protect their homes.

In the first days of the war, Russia’s line was that it was only targeting Ukraine’s military and that civilians had nothing to fear. But as the offensive has slowed, and resistance from civilians in cities has become part of the mix, the level of violence against civilian targets has increased significantly.

Russia has now launched a second-wave assault, bringing in more advanced weapon systems, a heavier weight of fire including potentially deadly weapons such as thermobaric, chemical or heavy conventional missiles. Russian nuclear forces have been placed on high alert and there are ominous moves – likely intended to intimidate – of nuclear-capable ballistic missiles within Russia. Russian forces are now encircling and besieging Ukraine’s cities. We can thus expect the next week to bring intensified urban combat, more guerrilla activity, and a dramatic increase in the level of violence, including against civilians.

It is impossible to predict in detail what may happen next, given the war is only 10 days old. But if what we have seen so far is any guide, the costs of the conflict for both Russia and Ukraine are likely to be tragically high, and the ­potential for wider spread within Europe remains all too real.

local oaf
March 5, 2022 2:51 pm

Live long enough and it starts to repeat.

When I was a kid we got Brilliantine or Brylcreem on our hair whether we wanted it or not.

Lately on Fakebook, advertisers are trying to sell me beard oil!

Also a “vegan friendly” beard brush!!!

srr
srr
March 5, 2022 2:54 pm

Now we have that, “beautiful”, “intelligent”, “talented”, “Jewish Princess”, doing what all the liars do; showing their lies about themselves are as bad as their lies about those they hate, and don’t fall for their, ‘I don’t hate, I’m entertained’, lie.
They are filled with so much hate it oozes from the core to the top of their being despite knowing it exposes what truly low class people they are –

Cassie of Sydney says:
March 5, 2022 at 1:31 pm
Dear slag heap…….it will work hoth ways. You are a liar, a fraud and a fantasist. And you support Bird’s anti-Semitisn….nice that has been cleared up.

NOTHING but yet again spitting more poisonous words proving what a bald faced liar the self proclaimed “Jewish Princess” is, because only those she lies about ever dare call out her bald faced lies.

However what’s got her really angry this time (as her rush of typos attests to), is also being called out on her taking, compiling, tweaking & selling the work of others as her own.

Rabz
March 5, 2022 2:56 pm

Dover – please check your email, Squire.

John H.
John H.
March 5, 2022 2:57 pm

The reports are the Ukrainian Air Force are still in the air, but it’s obvious they dare not go near the northern sector. Russian S-300s are deadly, plus several other systems. There seem to’ve been a few strikes against the convoy, but pretty rare. Some infantry raids too. But between lack of fuel, bad tyres and no bridges the convoy seems stuck. If they don’t patrol sufficiently the Ukrainian raiders will have a fun time with them if this situation continues.

Yes Bruce Russian surface to air missiles are deadly and Ukraine has some of those which is probably another reason the Russian air force is MIA. For all the speculation about the stalled convoy everyone is forgetting the obvious: they’re all getting drunk.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2022 2:58 pm

As we head to the election and get the usual parade of historical candidate Facebook posts I’ll be in trouble if I ever run for public office. Luckily my disdain for politics as it is practiced suggests this is extremely unlikely.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2022 3:01 pm

Leon:
re the Mark Steyne video – O’Biden walking.
We used to call it the Stelazine Stomp.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
March 5, 2022 3:02 pm

Des Deskperson says: March 5, 2022 at 1:59 pm

visited Canberra’s – almost certainly – wokest shopping centre in what his probably Canberra’s wokest suburb

Is that some commercial real-estate buyer’s advice there?
Buy the most based shop in the wokest mall?
😀

dopey
dopey
March 5, 2022 3:09 pm

Let’s hope there’s a nod to Warnie at the SCG tonight, dry or sticky wicket.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 5, 2022 3:11 pm

I don’t find driving any sort of fun. I just want swift, quiet, comfortable and reasonably safe transport from A to B on demand. I drove manuals for 27 years then switched to auto. Haven’t looked back. Now if they can just get rid of the necessity to actually be involved in driving the damn thing I’ll be happy.

Kneel
Kneel
March 5, 2022 3:15 pm

“We’ve had some fun with your “I surrendered because I did it for others” schtick over at the furniture shop, kneel!”

I make no claim to thinking of “the community” or otherwise in my choices, merely that what and who matters to me most, most affects my choices.

Meanwhile, you – who has not been forced into such a choice – attempt to poke fun at my situation and my choices. Not very gentlemanly or ethical in my view, but do as you will. Your rants show your true colours, and I leave it to others to decide who is making the more moral choices here. I have made mine based on what is appropriate for me, and expect others to do the same. I would have preferred that the government did not force such distasteful choices upon me, but I cannot change the past.

That you aim such propaganda at me as some sort of defense, when I have clearly stated many times that I find the mandates to be utterly and completely wrong is, quite frankly, disgusting.

Your lack of ability to take the nuances and variations of different people into account, and instead make it a simple black and white, good vs bad case shows, in my view, the shallow nature of your position and the weakness of your argument. It seems that you are taking the position that any who do not agree with you in the entirety of your position are wrong and to be derided. Quite pathetic – even childish. But then, you have already shown a complete lack of empathy, and the willingness to judge others based on incomplete knowledge here before, so in truth I am hardly surprised that you have not changed or learned – such absolutists as you present as here rarely do, often to their own detriment.
My hope that presenting “the other side” might make you more carefully consider was clearly in vain, however others may benefit from it, and if so, the effort was not wasted. And so I will continue to “waste my time” pointing such out to you, however much you may despise me – it is not always about you, regardless of your narcissism and self pride.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 3:16 pm

39 years today since the Election of the Hawke Government.
What a ShitShow that turned out to be,
mass Unemployment, so they stopped releasing the figures
no Wage rise for 10 years,
interest rates 17%
Inflation 10%+/year
Manufacturing closed down and exported
But there are still fools to tell you how wonderful it all was.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 3:19 pm

Wrt the convoy, the puzzle is not why had it stopped , and seriously even if it were Dodgy tyres, why aren’t they moving them off the side of the road and moving on?

Wouldn’t be surprised if Putin is in the tank for Western Intelligence, so it could be his Wehrmacht stopping at Dunkirk moment.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 3:19 pm

Zulu – Thanks for that article by David Kilcullen. I always find him a bit too insiderish, but lots of good observations in that piece.

The Hostomel comments are especially interesting, plus the link to the overall strategy of the mechanized advance from the north. Hostomel is looking increasingly like what might’ve been in Crete. Unlike our guys, who’d just evacuated from Greece without their stuff, the Ukrainians were ready and had a sizeable force on the ground. They appear to’ve counterattacked decisively.

On such things you have to think the Ukrainian estimates of Russian casualties are more accurate. What, two para battalions at Hostomel? I doubt they’d commit less than that. They’re all dead, that’s 1,500 Russians. Plus elsewhere. The Russian General Staff must be crapping their Depends by now.

miltonf
miltonf
March 5, 2022 3:20 pm

I enjoy driving- racing the tradies in their Dmaxs and Rangers on the morning commute to the city. Visiting fun places on the weekend and during the hols.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 5, 2022 3:21 pm

Have a gander at this clearing sale near Nhill. Something for everyone.
http://dmdagents.com.au/clearing_sales/sutton-grange-clearing-sale/

Rabz
March 5, 2022 3:22 pm

I don’t find driving any sort of fun

Yeah, not so much any more, which is why I rarely bother. A couple of years ago I clocked up the grand total of 481 kilometres in the twelve months between registrations. Nowadays I prefer to take the car out of Sydney where I can wind it out to the fullest. The drive south and back through the Royal National Park (when it’s not ablaze) is my favourite.

As for not driving the damn thing, when I used to drive from Sydney to Canberra or vice versa, you could put the cruise control on and you would barely be driving the thing, especially on straight sections of the expressway – then the biggest danger was trying to stay awake. The other incredible thing about the cruise control was that once I started using it, I was using a third less fuel per trip, which was a significant saving both ways.

But yeah, I want to actually drive a car, not just sit in it.

John H.
John H.
March 5, 2022 3:22 pm

Kneelsays:
March 5, 2022 at 3:15 pm
“We’ve had some fun with your “I surrendered because I did it for others” schtick over at the furniture shop, kneel!”

Your lack of ability to take the nuances and variations of different people into account, and instead make it a simple black and white, good vs bad case shows, in my view, the shallow nature of your position and the weakness of your argument. It seems that you are taking the position that any who do not agree with you in the entirety of your position are wrong and to be derided. Quite pathetic – even childish. But then, you have already shown a complete lack of empathy, and the willingness to judge others based on incomplete knowledge here before, so in truth I am hardly surprised that you have not changed or learned – such absolutists as you present as here rarely do, often to their own detriment.
My hope that presenting “the other side” might make you more carefully consider was clearly in vain, however others may benefit from it, and if so, the effort was not wasted. And so I will continue to “waste my time” pointing such out to you, however much you may despise me – it is not always about you, regardless of your narcissism and self pride.

+ 1000

srr
srr
March 5, 2022 3:22 pm

Winston Smith says:
March 5, 2022 at 1:36 pm
srr:

These Senators should all be made a massive example and excommunicated, they aren’t Catholic in any meaningful or even remotely meaningful way and yet they’re allowed to present themselves as Catholic and allowed by the Bishops,”

A point I have made over the years. The failure of the church to robustly defend itself is one of the reasons it is losing the fight.
Why the Hell should I join an organisation that refuses to defend itself but expects me to do so?

Sadly, it’s faithful Catholics (such as those at Church Militant, who do fight the good fight against the many corruptions in The Church hurting people), who get tossed into the ‘bad Catholic’ basket by those who cry, “Pell!”, at the drop of hat (as if it gives them some sort of Catholic Authority over those they treat as their ‘lessers’), while they keep conveniently ‘forgetting’ the billions slushing around Vatican & other Catholic coffers being used for things like ‘gates’ in Victoria when the “Get Pell!” campaign still needed (and got), heavy funding.

The truly bad Catholics are those who protect & defend corrupt clergy & politicians who hide behind their ‘Catholicism’ while they help Global Atheism push along it’s terrible Anti-Christ, Anti-Humanity Agenda.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2022 3:23 pm

Dmaxs and Rangers

Always receive a frosty welcome at the Woomba Helldrivers Club.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 3:24 pm

Fuck off, SRR.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 3:26 pm

On second thought Hostomel is Arnhem v2.0. But even worse than what happened to the Poms.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2022 3:34 pm

Anyone wishing to understand what is wrong at the ALPBC (talk about preaching to the converted) should have a look at the Four Corners Tweet reproduced by Nancy in this week’s Media Watchdog. After being hollowed out by the Marxists in the 70s, a process beautifully described by an insider over on Quadrant, they have replaced by crusading, premenopausal Karens. And apparently that is the best of Aunty’s News and Current Affairs department.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 5, 2022 3:35 pm

Someone up above was saying Warnie threw legendary parties.

He could afford it, by the looks of it. Article just out in the Oz says he was worth $50 million.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2022 3:37 pm

Bruce of Newcastle

I think Crete is the better analogy.
Boxheads made severe intelligence errors about the defenders including being sucked in that AA defenses around the airfields were negligible.
They lost a lot of transports to AA.
The Russkies seemed to have done the same error.

Reading bevors book on the campaign is a great “what if”, the main one being if they (Kiwis) had reinforced at the one airfield still being contested rather than withdrawing the campaign would almost certainly have been lost by about the 3rd day.
The group defending it was low on ammo, had a lot of casualties and thought they had been cut off after reinforcements they were supposed to have had didnt arrive.
And their coms were completely crap.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 5, 2022 3:38 pm

Colonel

Is that some commercial real-estate buyer’s advice there?
Buy the most based shop in the wokest mall?

Unless there has been a major re-development there in the last decade or so (unlikely, given the local demographic), Ainslie is a small suburban shopping centre, far from a major mall.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2022 3:39 pm

He could afford it, by the looks of it. Article just out in the Oz says he was worth $50 million.

So his estate should be able to pay for his own funeral, then?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 3:40 pm

On second thought Hostomel is Arnhem v2.0. But even worse than what happened to the Poms.

I disagree with that assessment, Bruce. But only in relation to the scale of the operation and how close behind the follow-up echelons were.

Arnhem very nearly succeeded, but for a day’s delay at Nijmegen because of garbled orders and misunderstanding of objectives by the 82nd Airborne. 30 Corps’ spearhead was thus forced to help them take the main bridges instead, rather than using that time to force their way to Oesterbeek and beyond.

The closest equivalents might be Eben Emael in 1940, or the Pegasus Bridge attack or Merville Battery attack in 1944, if stiffer and more alert resistance and no timely follow-up support had seen the annihilation of the German and UK coups de main for no effect.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2022 3:41 pm

Warnie was basically Richie Benaud with coke, smokes and groupies. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 5, 2022 3:41 pm

Wouldn’t be surprised if Putin is in the tank for Western Intelligence, so it could be his Wehrmacht stopping at Dunkirk moment.

Dickless Ed jumps the shark, with Putin as a western spook!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 3:41 pm

Snap, Mole!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2022 3:43 pm

Arnhem very nearly succeeded, but for a day’s delay at Nijmegen because of garbled orders and misunderstanding of objectives by the 82nd Airborne.

“The bridges were to be seized with thunderclap surprise.” What’s garbled about that?

Frank
Frank
March 5, 2022 3:44 pm

Bill Clinton just announced the Clinton Global Initiative is coming back online and that is all the confirmation we need that Hillary is running

Probably means that Durham is a bust as far as she is concerned.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 3:44 pm

Wouldn’t be surprised if Putin is in the tank for Western Intelligence, so it could be his Wehrmacht stopping at Dunkirk moment.

What’s being evacuated across the sea, Grigs?

And in a military as mechanised as Russia’s, and the fact that the biggest manoeuvre units in the field are Regiments (2-4 Battalions, if we use the traditional, non-Armour terminology 🙂 ), what possesses you to think that Infantry Divisions are still walking into battle?

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 3:47 pm

He could afford it, by the looks of it. Article just out in the Oz says he was worth $50 million.

So he was dealing?

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2022 3:48 pm

Unless there has been a major re-development there in the last decade or so (unlikely, given the local demographic), Ainslie is a small suburban shopping centre, far from a major mall.

You get the feeling these are the guys in the firing line. At best, a couple of frock shops hanging off a Colesworths. I suspect the economics will see a lot of them carved up for apartments at some point in the future. It is tough to get large lots in established suburbs.

Speedbox
March 5, 2022 3:50 pm

It’s already clear that Russia has reset the game. This is changing the calculus for every NATO nation, especially the Scandinavian and Baltic states that might be next on Moscow’s menu. Sweden, Norway, Latvia, Poland and Estonia have offered increased military assistance to Ukraine, Finnish leaders are talking about joining NATO……

Finland, and to a lesser extent Sweden, need to think very very carefully about joining NATO. Finland (and Sweden) is the ‘upper northern’ buffer between NATO and Russia from nearby NATO member Norway.

NATO in Finland will draw NATO even more into the Barents Sea. Russian nuclear submarine port Murmansk is just near the border with Finland. Jeezus people, think this through. Now is not the time (although I doubt there will ever be a time).

srr
srr
March 5, 2022 3:50 pm

Zelenskyy Losing Ground, Embattled Hero Compared to Churchill Now Slams NATO for Refusing No-Fly Zone
March 4, 2022 | Sundance | 96 Comments

Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy reportedly survived three, yes three, assassination attempts in the past 48 hours, according to Fox News and Lindsey Graham’s BFF, Sean Hannity. According to U.S. officials, a shadowy Kremlin-linked squad known as the Wagner Group, were behind the objective.

While details from the U.S. intelligence community are sketchy, two attempts may have involved anvils dropping from cliffs, though one of them could have been a piano. The third attempt appears loosely connected to the notorious Acme TNT gang who have been directly linked to Wile E Coyote; a dubious conspirator currently being investigated by Interpol.

Meanwhile, the Biden administration, along with the NATO security alliance, has rejected Zelenskyy’s demands to establish a no-fly zone over fears that it could spark a direct military confrontation between the U.S. and Russia. This has angered the modern Churchill in a T-shirt, who railed against NATO after the last refusal:

WASHINGTON DC – […] “Knowing that new strikes and casualties are inevitable, NATO deliberately decided not to close the sky over Ukraine,” Zelensky said in an emotional video address. The president urged NATO to think about “all those people who will die because of you.”

“Because of your weakness, because of your disunity, all the alliance has managed to do so far is to carry fifty tons of diesel fuel for Ukraine,” he said. “Is this the alliance you were building?” (read more)

Meanwhile, the 20-mile-long Russian convoy of heavy equipment that was a few miles outside of Kyiv a week ago, is still a 20-mile-long Russian convoy of heavy equipment that is still a few miles outside of Kyiv.
(more…)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/03/04/zelenskyy-losing-ground-embattled-hero-compared-to-churchill-now-slams-nato-for-refusing-no-fly-zone/

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 3:51 pm

“The bridges were to be seized with thunderclap surprise.” What’s garbled about that?

No, I meant the priority given to taking the bridge vs. the Grosbeck Heights. That confusion allowed a single SS Recce Battalion to occupy the hitherto unheld bridge first, which 2 SS Pz Corps. elements made the centre of their increasingly stubborn resistance.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 3:52 pm

“The bridges were to be seized with thunderclap surprise.” What’s garbled about that?

Ever read The Man With The Golden Arm?
That tells you all you need to know about the US Army in Europe in WW2.
[There will now be a 15 minute pause while Zulu googles The Man With The Golden Arm

Des Deskperson
Des Deskperson
March 5, 2022 3:52 pm

‘Ms Nolan [the Greens Hitler comedienne] is a performer, comedian, MC, writer, author, artist, teacher, ambassador and activist, according to her candidate website. She apologised for causing offence and said she was proud of her record of fighting against anti-Semitism.’

An ‘ambassador’? What, a DFAT Head of Mission overseas??

And I wonder about her ‘record of fighting against anti-Semitism.’ Somehow, I doubt it means actually standing up for Jews.

cohenite
March 5, 2022 3:52 pm

Trump spent his 4 years in Office kissing up, pissing on his supporters, probably snorting a helluva lotta coke, and now he’s a Sore Loser.

Donut peering into the mirror again.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 3:53 pm

According to U.S. officials, a shadowy Kremlin-linked squad known as the Wagner Group, were behind the objective.

Uh oh

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 3:54 pm

Wagner?
They’re taking the piss, but Hannity is too dumb to realise that.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2022 3:55 pm

The Governor Whitmer kidnapping case, which we now know was comprised of virtually all FBI agents and informants took another devastating hit in August. Michael Hills, an attorney for Brandon Caserta, one of the six defendants, produced text messages showing an FBI field agent telling an informant to lie, frame an innocent man and delete text messages.

132andBush
132andBush
March 5, 2022 3:56 pm

Have a gander at this clearing sale near Nhill. Something for everyone.

Some serious history there, Gez.

Some beautiful stuff.

miltonf
miltonf
March 5, 2022 3:56 pm

Which again shows the FBI is a democratic party goon squad.

miltonf
miltonf
March 5, 2022 3:57 pm

Have a gander at this clearing sale near Nhill. Something for everyone.

Some serious history there, Gez.

Some beautiful stuff.

seems a bit sad- why the big sale I wonder

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2022 3:58 pm

No, I meant the priority given to taking the bridge vs. the Grosbeck Heights. That confusion allowed a single SS Recce Battalion to occupy the hitherto unheld bridge first, which 2 SS Pz Corps. elements made the centre of their increasingly stubborn resistance.

I’ve had a long standing interest in the battle of Arnhem, ever since working with a group of expat Brits in the early 1970’s – most of them were World War Two veterans, and three of them were XXX Corps veterans. I’ve walked over both Arnhem and Nijmegen – “What went on on the high ground at Nijmegen had no bearing on what happened at the bridge.” It always strikes me as nonsense that, having failed to take the bridge at Nijmegen, almost guaranteeing the failure of the operation, the Americans pointed the big finger at XXX Corps for “Stopping to drink tea” on the way up.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 3:58 pm

And their coms were completely crap.

Mole – That’s been my reading of the history: until 1942 coms were totally crap. In 1943 they improved a lot. It made an enormous difference, since battalion commanders unlike 2500 years ago no longer needed Athens-style marathon guys to tell them what was happening. Which is what they were relying on in 1942.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2022 4:00 pm

Angry Leftist on ‘The View’ Openly Makes the Case to Abolish the US Constitution, Calls it a “Trash” Document That Was “Written By Slavers and Colonists and Whites”

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 4:01 pm

Perhaps Mandy Nolan was Polling ahead of Justine Elliot?
Bandt will fall into line, i’d say tuesday at the latest.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2022 4:03 pm

US Army Announces Mandatory Training on Pronouns and Gender Dysphoria — While Russia Invades Ukraine, Surrounds Kiev.
An Army spokesman confirmed to the Free Beacon that the slides in question are part of “mandatory training” and come from an official program “used to train Army personnel on the recent changes to the DoD and Army transgender service policy.” All Army personnel, from soldiers to commanders and supervisors, are required to participate in the training by Sept. 30, 2022, according to the spokesman.

miltonf
miltonf
March 5, 2022 4:03 pm

Winston the American left are moving in for the kill. Trump gave them a fright so they have dropped all pretense. What garbage people they are too.

areff
areff
March 5, 2022 4:06 pm

Sad Case thinks Man With the Golden Arm is about Americans in WWII. That will come as news to Frank Sinatra.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JNPS-Tyzko

cohenite
March 5, 2022 4:07 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2022 4:10 pm

Ever read The Man With The Golden Arm?
That tells you all you need to know about the US Army in Europe in WW2.
[There will now be a 15 minute pause while Zulu googles The Man With The Golden Arm

Nor really – someone fairly widely read on the subject, and with a reasonable grasp of the subject, is wondering just what you are raving on about, now.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 4:11 pm

Finland, and to a lesser extent Sweden, need to think very very carefully about joining NATO.

Speedy – Not really. Putin is sensitive about former parts of the Tsarist Russian Empire/Soviet Empire joining NATO. Which doesn’t include Finnish snipers and Swedish gryphons.

The issue with Ukraine is that they were earmarked as an essential part of the remanufactured empire, so it was unacceptable to Putin for Ukraine to join NATO.

What has been mentioned nowhere is that IF the alliance HAD ALREADY admitted Ukraine then this war would never have happened. Putin would not have dared bite off Ukraine in such a circumstance.

NATO is a defensive alliance. They are no threat to anyone. Indeed they’re woke and useless, but sufficiently big as to give pause to people who want bits of them.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 5, 2022 4:11 pm

Some serious history there, Gez.

Some beautiful stuff.

That old horse drawn wagon is in seriously good condition. They would hold 100 bags of wheat.
I think the other is what they called a Gig.

miltonf
miltonf
March 5, 2022 4:12 pm

What I suspect the ‘rats are up to is to link Russia (with which they want a war) with Trump and his supporters. It’s getting very ugly. This white guy hatred thing is also being turned up big time.

miltonf
miltonf
March 5, 2022 4:13 pm

NATO is a defensive alliance.

it wasn’t when they bombed Serbia

calli
calli
March 5, 2022 4:14 pm

Have a gander at this clearing sale near Nhill. Something for everyone.

I saw something there that I’d like. It even had cup holders!

And definitely a manual. 😀

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 4:25 pm

The closest equivalents might be Eben Emael in 1940, or the Pegasus Bridge attack or Merville Battery attack in 1944

Rex – Those operations were the exact opposite of the Hostomel paradrop. The former three succeeded, the latter was a bloody disaster. That’s why I say the coup de main Hostomel assault and air-bridge attempt is worse than Arnhem. Like Arnhem the Russians wanted to use paradrops to open a way into the heart of their objective. In Market Garden the Poms nearly succeeded. In Hostomel the Russians were obliterated.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 4:25 pm

Sad Case thinks Man With the Golden Arm is about Americans in WWII. That will come as news to Frank Sinatra.

Frank’s dead, old boy.
Though it only took you 14 minutes to google that clip, so you’re [marginally] smarter than Zulu.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 4:28 pm

NATO is a defensive alliance.

it wasn’t when they bombed Serbia

That was Bill Clinton in NATO drag.
Ditto Libya and his wife, oops Barack.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2022 4:28 pm

In Market Garden the Poms nearly succeeded

I don’t have a reference, but I’ve read that the worst thing the Germans ever did for Germany was to win the Battle for Arnhem..

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2022 4:28 pm

Got to get up (no pun intended) to out Google the Groogmeister.

Frank
Frank
March 5, 2022 4:29 pm

The Man With The Golden Arm taught me everything I needed to know about injecting small amounts of gasoline into myself so as to create cancer, a small one, enough to get a script for Dilaudid but not enough to kill me. That and other junkie tales of the Burroughs era.

Makka
Makka
March 5, 2022 4:32 pm

Thanks for this link above.

It’s pretty clear now with the land bridge secure across to Crimea, Russia can support their ground forces to advance north and also south from Kharkov region to take all of Eastern Ukraine.

comment image

Which was always the objective I suspect, at least as a start point for negotiations.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 4:32 pm

At least Areff googled it.
You’re only using your head as a hatstand, Frank.

srr
srr
March 5, 2022 4:40 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
March 5, 2022 at 4:28 pm
NATO is a defensive alliance.

it wasn’t when they bombed Serbia

That was Bill Clinton in NATO drag.
Ditto Libya and his wife, oops Barack.

NATO can be turned into a personal bombing squad by the likes of the Clinton’s & Obama’s against innocent Nations they want to rob & use as political cover.

That’s as comforting as the excuse that Hairdressers “set up” Nancy Pelosi, ah but …

Everything will be okay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ow521sfow

Old bloke
Old bloke
March 5, 2022 4:43 pm

H B Bear says:
March 5, 2022 at 2:58 pm

As we head to the election and get the usual parade of historical candidate Facebook posts I’ll be in trouble if I ever run for public office. Luckily my disdain for politics as it is practiced suggests this is extremely unlikely.

Forget it, n0 one is going to vote for someone who doesn’t wear pants.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 5, 2022 4:46 pm

Dickless Ed

Any actual evidence for your suggestion that Putin is a tool of western intelligence? Or was it just another of your many brain farts?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 4:46 pm

it wasn’t when they bombed Serbia

In all fairness, Serbia were being murderous arseholes and upsetting all the neighbours (including a number of NATO Members).

If ‘NATO’ as a whole didn’t do it, and then send KFOR in after the second round regarding Kosovo, then the US would have done it alone, under the now-reviled concept of being a ‘good neighbour.’ Or one or more of the hitherto uninvolved neighbours would have got stuck in.

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 5, 2022 4:47 pm

Apparently anyone who includes snapping Liz Hurley’s garters
amongst Warnie’s greatest accomplishments is a misogynist
who’d join Vlad the Terrible’s hordes, just for the pillage and rapine.
Or something.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 4:51 pm

NATO is a defensive alliance.

it wasn’t when they bombed Serbia

In all fairness, Serbia were being murderous arseholes

Shooting up the Dutch peacekeepers (NATO Member) in blue berets, overrunning the UN safe haven they were guarding amd murdering 300 of the occupants was probably an avoidable overreach…

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 4:52 pm

Warnie as a PantsMan?
Yeah, nah …

bespoke
bespoke
March 5, 2022 4:52 pm

miltonfsays:
March 5, 2022 at 3:57 pm
Have a gander at this clearing sale near Nhill. Something for everyone.

Some serious history there, Gez.

Some beautiful stuff.

seems a bit sad- why the big sale I wonder

Looks like the stuff has been kept in the shed so I hope the new owners do the same and not for lawn art.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 4:52 pm

Forget it, n0 one is going to vote for someone who doesn’t wear pants.

I might.

cohenite
March 5, 2022 4:52 pm

Atheists v muslims 2012 in victoristan. This could not happen today:

https://www.facebook.com/100000038277260/videos/937981969546403/

P
P
March 5, 2022 4:53 pm

This was a big hit in the 50s.
1956 HITS ARCHIVE: Man With The Golden Arm Theme – Elmer Bernstein

Best part of the movie.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 4:55 pm

NATO can be turned into a personal bombing squad by the likes of the Clinton’s & Obama’s against innocent Nations they want to rob & use as political cover.

You need to be very careful with sweeping generalisations and defamatory claims like that one, SRR.

As the Srebrenica Massacre and the Kosovo-Albania split that you are using as a basis for this lie demonstrates.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 4:55 pm

Delisted as an 18 year old by St Kilda reserves in 1988, then 3 years later
League Club Accrington declined to renew his Contract, though his Batting and Bowling figures were reasonable.
I’d like to read more about that.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2022 4:58 pm

Warnie as a PantsMan?
Yeah, nah …

Oh god, Ed-Mong is about to call Warne a flamer.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 4:58 pm

Apparently anyone who includes snapping Liz Hurley’s garters
amongst Warnie’s greatest accomplishments is a misogynist

Not me. The lustrous Ms Hurley regularly features in The Express, with only minor fabric covering. She’s rather well preserved. Worth a hundred wickets I think.

‘Very hungry’ Liz Hurley, 56, teases cleavage on detox break after post-injury weight gain (1 Mar)

Cleavage warning.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 4:59 pm

You need to be very careful with sweeping generalisations and defamatory claims like that one, SRR.

You’re getting a bit big big for your boots, eh Franger?

bespoke
bespoke
March 5, 2022 5:00 pm

Oh god, Ed-Mong is about to call Warne a flamer.

Flamer Spook.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2022 5:01 pm

I seem to recall Turkey being a bit agitated over the whole Kosovo thing.
https://journals.openedition.org/balkanologie/517

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 5:01 pm

Nothing wrong with being a Flamer [according to SpongeBob].

Frank
Frank
March 5, 2022 5:02 pm

No Grigs, not a hatstand. I just read it once rather than alluded to having done so because that would be poor form.

srr
srr
March 5, 2022 5:02 pm

Rex Anger says:
March 5, 2022 at 4:46 pm

it wasn’t when they bombed Serbia

In all fairness, Serbia were being murderous arseholes and upsetting all the neighbours […]

Yeah, in all fairness Serbs and other Non-Muslims weren’t accepting Rape Jihad and other positioning to inflict Dhimmitude on them like the UK still does.

They had the gall (and memory of not too distant history), to fight back, hard, because they also knew ‘good will’ negotiations were only seen as more weakness to be taken full advantage of.

Sadly, their warnings of what ever increasing acquiescence to Muslim’s demands would lead to, was being reported in MSM at the time but of course that was only to mock them and prepare the world to accept the hell the Clinton’s & Co were going to unleash as the ‘fault’ of the Serbs/Christians.

Kneel
Kneel
March 5, 2022 5:03 pm

“Probably means that Durham is a bust as far as she is concerned.”

Probably effective, short term. But long term? Durham is very thorough, and not afraid to put stuff on the public record as part of an indictment. And as is apparent from the legal battle with Sussman, he doesn’t put out stuff he can’t back up.
She may be thinking she can become Prez before it all comes out, but even should she win the primary and then the election, she would most likely face a hostile and populist house and senate.
As unlikely as the scenario may be, it would certainly be entertaining to see her impeached and convicted at a senate trial – the trail of dead bodies of potential witnesses not withstanding.

areff
areff
March 5, 2022 5:04 pm

I didn’t need to google it, Smegma Brain. Some of us can actually watch movies and remember what we saw.

But enough of that. I want more info on what that tape worm between your ears told you about Putin being a secret agent of the West.

Being born an idiot is one thinking. Devoting your life and energy to elevating genetic disadvantage to a lifestyle quite another.

Frank
Frank
March 5, 2022 5:06 pm

Cleavage warning.

From Bruces link. Women, it is all about Freudian allusion with the makeup and attire. I get it. But this latest trend (I blame the Kardashians) for flesh tone lipstick is positively rectal. No subtlety at all and not a good look.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
March 5, 2022 5:08 pm

Forget it, n0 one is going to vote for someone who doesn’t wear pants.

Shorter.

https://aec.gov.au/

The federal election is scheduled to be held in the first half of 2022. Voting options will include in-person and postal services with safety measures in place.
A lot will depend on what’s happening with COVID when the election is on and we’re in regular consultation with health authorities to inform our services.

Forget it, n0 one is going to vote.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 5:09 pm

Rex – Those operations were the exact opposite of the Hostomel paradrop. The former three succeeded, the latter was a bloody disaster. That’s why I say the coup de main Hostomel assault and air-bridge attempt is worse than Arnhem.

Yes.

But my full point was that the 3 coup de mains I presented would have been catastrophic failures had things gone the other way.

Arnhem and the Op Varsity landings in 1945 were large-scale breakthrough efforts, centred on taking and holding certain airheads. The latter more successful than the former.

Fort Eben Emael, Merville Battery and Orne River Bridge, like Hostomel Airport, were very specific targets that the airborne troops had a very limited time to take. And relatively massive enemy reinforcement nearby, if local resistance held out just long enough.

Carentan is another example of close-run thing. The 101st Airborne managed to assault its way into the town and dislodge the Fallschirmjägers defending it, but the German armoured and mech forces that came to reinforce them very nearly destroyed the Americans. Any more substantial delays on the Normandy beach-heads, and the US 2nd Armoured Division would have had to fight its way through a strongly German-held Carentan and the wreckage of 101st.

I am calling this one a furious agreement with you, but quibbling over details.

Beers? 🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 5, 2022 5:10 pm

Ed Casesays:
March 5, 2022 at 4:52 pm
Warnie as a PantsMan?
Yeah, nah …

Don’t tell us (shudder) that he was another of the flamers about whom you seem obsessed! Shock, horror.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 5, 2022 5:12 pm

cohenite

If you have a moment, hop over to CL’s blog (the Putin shells Rupert Murdoch thread) and give Homer Paxton a few home truths about the real economics of ruinables.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 5, 2022 5:13 pm

mole

Snap re Dickless Ed.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 5:14 pm

srrsays:
March 5, 2022 at 5:02 pm

SRR, you are a Nuffy.

Show me at any point where Jihad has come out of the Slavs of the Balkans or Southern Europe.

The Slavs generally have the good grace over hundreds and even thousands of years to keep their violent infighting very much to themselves (as FrollickingMole’s earlier meme demonstrates).

The lethal business going on in Western Europe that gives you such excitement, has come out of its Arabic migrant populations from the Middle East and North Africa. And to a lesser extent from Chechnya and the -Stan republics once belonging to the USSR.

Winston, where is that ‘Don’t Tard On Me’ Flag? It needs another run…

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 5, 2022 5:16 pm

Ed Casesays:
March 5, 2022 at 5:01 pm
Nothing wrong with being a Flamer [according to SpongeBob].

Perhaps you could link to the comment where I said that, Dickless? Or are you just having yet another brain fart.

PS, you haven’t yet linked to the comment(s) where I called for pollies to meet lampposts. Slipped your mind?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 5:19 pm

Sadly, their warnings of what ever increasing acquiescence to Muslim’s demands would lead to, was being reported in MSM at the time but of course that was only to mock them and prepare the world to accept the hell the Clinton’s & Co were going to unleash as the ‘fault’ of the Serbs/Christians.

Also, you do not have the wit to effectively present your ‘Dem Clinton Pizza-tunnel Lizards gun’ git uz!’ meme dressed up as the old Slavic ‘Remove Kebab’ one.

Never do it again. It is an embarrassment to the Slavs and Tunnel Lizards alike.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2022 5:22 pm

ZK2A:

“It was certainly not intended. In the remark Hitler was used as an example of a dangerous sociopath who had no moral compass.”

There are many Western leaders she could have used instead of Hitler, but she chose otherwise.
Why?

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 5, 2022 5:22 pm

I didn’t need to google it, Smegma Brain. Some of us can actually watch movies and remember what we saw.

Cool story, bro.
But you forgot the WW2 part of the book, which was really what it was all about.
Why was that, do you think?
I mean, it’s nearly 70 years since the book was published, why the need to pretend?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 5:22 pm

Oh god, Ed-Mong is about to call Warne a flamer.

Werfers gonna werf…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 5, 2022 5:24 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2022 5:24 pm

Rex – All good. I was reading about the paradrop at Nadzab a few night ago. I mentioned it at the time as that’s the first combat drop by Australians that I know of – a battery of the 2/4th Field Regiment with a couple shortened 25 pounders in support of the US 503rd Para Regt. The drop was perfect, helped by the absence of any Japanese, although the paras didn’t know that until they landed.

srr
srr
March 5, 2022 5:25 pm

Rex Anger says:
March 5, 2022 at 4:55 pm

NATO can be turned into a personal bombing squad by the likes of the Clinton’s & Obama’s against innocent Nations they want to rob & use as political cover.

You need to be very careful with sweeping generalisations and defamatory claims like that one, SRR.

As the Srebrenica Massacre and the Kosovo-Albania split that you are using as a basis for this lie demonstrates.

You really are a very simple shit shoveller, aren’t you.

Just like those selling the lie that the ‘ukrainians’/Clinton’s & Co did nothing to ask for Putin’s actions now (& the ‘more cleverer’ do go back to 2014 but only to excuse their massacres of innocent civilians by omitting the Pre-2014 works of the Globalist bastards), there was a lot of evil shit stirred up by the evil Globalist bastards before then, not in the least worse than ignoring Serbs warnings and ‘oops, the UN et al letting what they were warned of, happen’.

But thanks for telling me “I” should be “careful” for daring to remind people to look into the rest of the story.
It tells me what a murderous side you’re cowardly on.

Oh and btw, your stupid wiki link actually tells people to ignore the legitimate claims of Non-Muslims because, duh, to even consider them breaks the narrative that excuses the Clinton & Co War Crimes as ‘NATO’ being ‘good guys’.

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