Open Thread – Tues 8 March 2022


The Fight Between Carnival and Lent, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1559

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Struth
March 11, 2022 8:53 pm

Fuck me, honestly….
Can you little gang members give comrade choo choo a few upticks.
He’s never had one.
How about a bit of unity.
And you call yourself a gang.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 11, 2022 8:54 pm

But if Australia was the camp, the entire Island continent, there’s already been at least 800 the government have killed directly from jabs.

Don’t get a hernia moving those goalposts, champ.

rosie
rosie
March 11, 2022 8:55 pm

Boambee,
The usual expert on everything.

Struth
March 11, 2022 8:59 pm

Don’t get a hernia moving those goalposts, champ.

A smart bloke who has let emotion turn him into a dribbling cretin?
Or just a dribbling cretin?

We now know.
The later.

FMD

Write the word “if” a thousand times Frank n’ furter and no going out of the lines
In your best cursive.

P
P
March 11, 2022 9:00 pm

Up thread there were a couple of comments re Aboriginal women.
I wish to add to those comments what my grandmother (b. 1894) told me in her elderly years (she lived to 99yrs).
She arrived in Walgett, from Sydney, in 1913 after marrying my grandfather (born Walgett 1891) and was horrified that after the stockmen would arrive in town, they would have a feed, clean up and go straight to the Camp by the river and choose whatever Aboriginal woman they wanted. There was no policing of this. It was just how it was.
Hence the half-castes. At least at that time in history in Walgett.

Indolent
Indolent
March 11, 2022 9:01 pm

OCO, you know this. Anecdotes aren’t data.

Here is the data, then.

miltonf
miltonf
March 11, 2022 9:03 pm

I know you’re never gone St Ruth

Struth
March 11, 2022 9:03 pm

Oh, for god sake, I’ll go and put an uptick on Choo choo’s comments.
It’s almost as if you want to disassociate yourself from own goal specialists, when he’s one of yours.

Keith Forwheels
Keith Forwheels
March 11, 2022 9:04 pm

long covid recovery

Thanks Zipster, two questions to clarify, re the FLCCC protocol, are you saying add the statin in with the first line treatments, and, would you take nattokinase at the same time as well, or only afterwards if symptoms were not resolving?

Struth
March 11, 2022 9:05 pm

Oh god, it’s done.
I feel so cheap and dirty.
I had to stop at four comments.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Did we sort out if there is a shortage of Woodstock cans? Just doing the weekend shopping list.

Heh. One of the Woodstock canned lines is rationed, another is totally unavailable.
However most Woodstock are freely available & have no purchase limit.

Rationing still applies to all Wild Turkey lines, a couple of Jack Daniels specialty lines, Chivas Regal, Malibu (Kahlua is no longer rationed) & quite a few XXXX lines. (the latter prolly due to the river last week deciding to run through the brewery).

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 11, 2022 9:07 pm

Do XXXX cans float? Talk about a silver lining.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Do XXXX cans float? Talk about a silver lining.

Dunno HB. However Lion don’t store any grog at the brewery, it is immediately body-trucked to some other location to be warehoused & distributed.

The brewery’s location is in this day & age a really awkward place for an industrial plant. If they could move it they would.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 11, 2022 9:12 pm

rosiesays:
March 11, 2022 at 8:55 pm
Boambee,
The usual expert on everything.

Dick Ed?

rosie
rosie
March 11, 2022 9:14 pm

No BJ a real expert

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 11, 2022 9:14 pm

Channel surfing & only realised the footy season has kicked off.
Looks like I missed the extensive ad campaign.
2022 season tips.
Sharks to finish top 4.
Broncos to finish top 8.
Tigers or Dogs to get wooden spoon.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 11, 2022 9:15 pm

rosie

I remain confused, tell me when said expert appears, please.

Or it it another John?

Keith Forwheels
Keith Forwheels
March 11, 2022 9:16 pm

Keith, if you’re about can you email me via the contact page email address. Your email is bouncing back.

Dover, email sent, thank you.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 11, 2022 9:18 pm

the stockmen would arrive in town, they would have a feed, clean up and go straight to the Camp by the river and choose whatever Aboriginal woman they wanted. There was no policing of this. It was just how it was.

How it is today:
It’s politically unacceptable for bigots to publicly lampoon aborigines today, so they workaround it by criticising domestic violence in Aboriginal Communities without considering the background.
Astroturfed female aboriginal leaders play along with this game.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 11, 2022 9:19 pm

And the hypocrisy stakes have not been higher.
The House of Saud owned Newcastle play the Russian oligarch owned Chelsea this weekend.
But the House of Saud is ok.
The Russian thief who is close to Putin is verboten.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 11, 2022 9:20 pm

In Perth the old Swan Brewery currently houses old boomers and Twiggy’s minions. There is a Twiggy restaurant serving Twiggy oysters if you haven’t reached your daily Twiggy limit.

rosie
rosie
March 11, 2022 9:21 pm

Hopefully they will self identify.

Struth
March 11, 2022 9:22 pm

Where’s all the little gang members gone?

I thought I’d bring you some starter material to get you up to speed a bit anyway. You’re just making embarrassing fools of yourself sneering at this these days.
Focus.
It’s not all about appearing to be a smarty pants to others.

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-next-step-for-the-world-economic-forum/Read this.
Do it, and no need to thank me.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 11, 2022 9:22 pm

When he’s off the booze Payne Haas is the most consistent player in the NRL.
He’ll have a long career at the Roosters when he gets out of his Broncos contract.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 11, 2022 9:23 pm

We now know.
The later.

St Ruth.
I think the word you are searching for is “latter”, not “later”.

Struth
March 11, 2022 9:24 pm

Tricked you.

Read this

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 11, 2022 9:25 pm

Dick Ed

so they workaround it by criticising domestic violence in Aboriginal Communities without considering the background.

Perhaps you could enlighten us on the “background” that justifies DV rates many times higher in indigenous communities than in non-indigenous communities?

Struth
March 11, 2022 9:25 pm

Stop trying to be a smarty pants Frank, and do some book lernun.

Struth
March 11, 2022 9:30 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 11, 2022 9:32 pm

OK.
Seventeen separate references to “Wagners camp”, “Wellcamp” or “Toowoomba camp” over three months, warning of the dire things planned to be carried out there.
When the “gas pipe to the showers” narrative starts to wobble, we suddenly move to “imagine the whole country is a prison camp”.
Receipts.
We got receipts.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 11, 2022 9:34 pm

What’s an “acceptable rate of domestic violence in aboriginal communities”
in your exalted opinion, SpongeBob?

Struth
March 11, 2022 9:35 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 11, 2022 9:38 pm

What the hell is going on with UAP in Queensssland?
Thirty Reps seats and they are running 13-14 women.
How can Queensssland men abide this indignity?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 11, 2022 9:39 pm

Ken Worth missus say “I no love you long time. Get off fat arse and work”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 11, 2022 9:40 pm

Ed Casesays:
March 11, 2022 at 9:34 pm
What’s an “acceptable rate of domestic violence in aboriginal communities”
in your exalted opinion, SpongeBob?

That wasn’t the question, Dick.

Luzu
Luzu
March 11, 2022 9:41 pm

So, I am going to plead ignorance here.

Working in a male-dominated industry as I do, I am very familiar with the term ‘cocksucker’.

I am, however, completely in the dark as to what the term ‘cock smoker’ actually means.

Somebody who treats a penis like a cigar? Pops it in the little smoking unit out the back and treats the finished product like a salami?

I really don’t know. Can anybody provide enlightenment?

And I just did the ‘so’ thing that was castigated a few weeks back. Possibly being a child of the ’70s, my grasp of grammar is not what it could be. Apologies.

Also, as a very normal, heterosexual woman, I don’t find the word ‘cocksucker’ to be offensive. Just a descriptor.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 11, 2022 9:44 pm

Ex-SAS soldier told ‘a lot of people’ Roberts-Smith was a bully, court hears
Michaela Whitbourn
By Michaela Whitbourn
March 11, 2022 — 1.48pm

A former elite soldier has told the Federal Court that he doubted whether Ben Roberts-Smith should have been awarded the Victoria Cross, Australia’s highest military honour, and he told “a lot of people” the war veteran was a bully.

Person 43, a former Special Air Service soldier who was medically discharged from the Defence Force in 2017, gave evidence in Mr Roberts-Smith’s defamation case in Sydney on Friday that the only witnesses to the acts for which his former comrade was awarded the Victoria Cross in January 2011 were members of Mr Roberts-Smith’s own team.

He believed this cast doubt on the award, which was conferred on Mr Roberts-Smith for his actions in a 2010 battle in Tizak, Afghanistan, during which the SAS came under fire from Taliban machine gunners.

The process by which Mr Roberts-Smith was considered for the award was conducted “in secrecy, without involvement of the rest of the [SAS] troop”, Person 43 said. He had expressed the view that “it is in doubt and there should have been more investigation before awarding it”.

“Are you sure you’re not bitter about not getting an award?” Mr Roberts-Smith’s barrister, Arthur Moses, SC, said.

“Very sure,” Person 43 replied. “I’m not an attention seeker; I don’t want any awards.”

But he admitted he did not witness Mr Roberts-Smith’s actions in Tizak. Person 43 agreed he still held the view that the award of the Victoria Cross was shrouded in doubt, and said he told a “lot of people” that Mr Roberts-Smith was a bully.

“Did Mr Roberts-Smith bully you?” Mr Moses asked. “No,” Person 43 replied.

Asked about his feelings towards his former comrade now, Person 43 admitted: “I don’t particularly like him.”

Person 43 was called this week to give evidence for The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Canberra Times in the defamation suit filed against the mastheads by Mr Roberts-Smith.

Mr Roberts-Smith alleges a series of articles published in 2018 portray him as a war criminal. The newspapers are seeking to rely on a defence of truth and allege Mr Roberts-Smith committed or was involved in six murders of Afghans under the control of Australian troops, when they cannot be killed under the rules of engagement.

Person 43 gave evidence on Thursday that he was involved in capturing an elderly Afghan man in a tunnel during a mission with Australian soldiers in 2009, countering a claim by Mr Roberts-Smith that no men were taken from the tunnel.

The newspapers allege that two men were taken from the tunnel and that Mr Roberts-Smith asked another soldier, Person 4, to shoot one of the men, and shot the second man himself.

Mr Roberts-Smith has said he did not order any killing but shot one combatant in battle, and that no men were discovered in the tunnel at Whiskey 108.

Person 43 rejected as “ridiculous” suggestions by Mr Moses that the events he described at Whiskey 108 were a “story”, and insisted he had “told facts”.

The trial continues.

Frank
Frank
March 11, 2022 9:44 pm

Luzu, they are synonyms.

Struth
March 11, 2022 9:46 pm

I am, however, completely in the dark as to what the term ‘cock smoker’ actually means.

It’s a complimentary term men use toward only people they like.
Use it, and I’m sure whoever you call a cock smoker will be shocked and surprised, but chuffed that you did so.
A term of endearment.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 11, 2022 9:49 pm

I am, however, completely in the dark as to what the term ‘cock smoker’ actually means.

You’d have to ask St Ruth.
As far as I can tell I think he is talking about fellatio involving men only and, if I may say so, he seems just a little bit too obsessed for my liking.
It doesn’t seem to be a complimentary term.
Also, he refers to “shallow cock-smokers” so presumably there are “deep cock-smokers” as well.
But, again, it is St Ruth’s area of expertise so I’ll leave it to him to explain.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 11, 2022 9:50 pm

It’s a complimentary term men use toward only people they like.

Heheh, yeah, in SanchoLand.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 11, 2022 9:51 pm

Also, as a very normal, heterosexual woman, I don’t find the word ‘cocksucker’ to be offensive. Just a descriptor.

It is times like these we praise the Good Lord that Faulty is no longer here.

Rabz
March 11, 2022 10:02 pm

For how much longer are the peoples existing on this continent going to tolerate the appalling behaviour of its so called “indodgenees”?

Now referred to incessantly by collectivist imbeciles* as “first nations peoples”.

An utterly absurd concept, shamelessly ripped off from peoples far more noble and useful that exist in North America.

indodgenees do not deserve to be referred to as anything remotely honourable. They are a joke. Blaming whitey is over. If the frogs, the portuguese, the dutch or heaven help, the belgians had settled this continent indodgenees would have been have been wiped out centuries ago.

Or perhaps indodgenees would have preferred to have been a very temporary part of the Greater South East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere?

The ongoing and seemingly interminable abuse of indodgenous women and kiddies on this continent is a disgrace – and it is all thanks to soft white collectivist inner city racists enabling braindead drug and alcohol fuelled indodgenous meatheads** to claim they’re enacting sacred stone age rites.

If there’s a solution to this diabolical situation anyone claims they can envisage any time soon, then let’s hear it, Cats.

*BIRM
**BIRM (again)

rickw
rickw
March 11, 2022 10:06 pm

he told “a lot of people” the war veteran was a bully.

The ADF definitely has a recruiting problem. A job were the job is to kill people, and some fucking Mong is getting wound up about someone being a “bully”.

JC
JC
March 11, 2022 10:08 pm

I don’t get it. Struth has his own blog where he and his closest pals are thought leading world leaders about numerous subjects. Why would he waste his precious time here when even Putin is now reading the Furniture factory on the daily basis?

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 11, 2022 10:09 pm

“first nations peoples”.

An utterly absurd concept, shamelessly ripped off from peoples far more noble and useful that exist in North America.

Best known for torturing prisoners to death and endless warfare.
If you reckon that’s noble, feel free to head off over there.

JC
JC
March 11, 2022 10:10 pm

We never have enough thought leaders.

Makka
Makka
March 11, 2022 10:10 pm

The ADF definitely has a recruiting problem.

Exactly, who would have thought that hard men trained to kill might actually be bullies. God forbid, our enemies might complain to the ADF HR Dept about SASR troopers being disrespectful.

Zipster
Zipster
March 11, 2022 10:18 pm

Thanks Zipster, two questions to clarify, re the FLCCC protocol, are you saying add the statin in with the first line treatments, and, would you take nattokinase at the same time as well, or only afterwards if symptoms were not resolving?

I did ivm+pred+statin. felt worst 1st few days then started improving. huge improvement by end of 2nd week. ran out of ivm. added nattokinase again noticeable improvements. got hit by some flu like virus and 2 weeks later got hit by omicron. fortunately got a new batch of ivm 1st day of omicron and bounced out of that in 3-4 days.

to date I have been bounced around between specialists for a year with no diagnosis and zero treatment all the while slowly going downhill. had to do all my own research and treat myself. took me about 6 months to piece the puzzle together that it finally clicked that it was almost certainly long covid.

my GP was too scared of being pulled up for prescribing off label meds, he went to health dept and was told no you can’t prescribe off label meds for long covid from FLCCC. JC came to the rescue and helped me out for which I am very grateful.

Rabz
March 11, 2022 10:18 pm

If you reckon that’s noble, feel free to head off over there

I have been over there, eddles, on multiple occasions. Compared to our (not so ) beloved indodgenees, the “first nations peoples” on the North American continent are doing far better for themselves.

Although all this race grifting is seriously foul and inexcusable.

However, they are your beloved marxists, eddles, engaging in that simple concept – divide and conquer.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
March 11, 2022 10:22 pm

rosie says:
March 11, 2022 at 7:03 pm

I used to make ginger beer all the time when I was a kid, used to keep the jar near the window and feed it every day.
Had a collection of those red top Tarax bottles for the finished product, occasionally there was an explosion.

We got into it for a while when I was a kid. Mostly the drink was put into glass Slade’s bottles with aluminium (?) caps as that was what we had to hand, but we did have a couple of old Marchant’s bottles with red stoppers and a rubber seal. The Slade’s bottles never fizzed up on opening, so when we took a Marchant’s bottle to a very soggy church picnic (everyone ended up eating in their own car) we though there was no risk opening the bottle inside the car.

Turned out there was a lot of pressure inside. Went everywhere. It was a good thing that HK Kingwood’s interiors were all vinyl and metal. Very washable! 😀

Dot
Dot
March 11, 2022 10:24 pm

struth

The bet is still on. Either myself dying (any cause) or 5% population reduction (any cause) of Australia by February, 2026.

In either case, or both, the loser pays 10 k AUD worth of middling quality of pre 1943 Ram’s head Australian shillings.

Are you man enough to take this bet?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 11, 2022 10:25 pm

By criminy crikey jellybeans, it’s happened.

St. Ruth is morphing into the _roomba.

Mind you, I warned that this day would come. Foretold this I did.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 11, 2022 10:31 pm

the “first nations peoples” on the North American continent are doing far better for themselves.

Rubbish.
The respective situations are quite similar.
This is from the Wiki entry on South Dakota’s infamous Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.
Demographics

In a 2005 interview, Cecilia Fire Thunder, the first female president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe, noted, “[Sixty-eight] percent of the college graduates on the reservation are women. Seventy percent of the jobs are held by women. Over 90 percent of the jobs in our schools are held by women.”[60]

The 2010 U.S. Census counted 18,834 individuals living on the Pine Ridge Reservation. The vast majority (16,906) identified as American Indian.[61]
89% of residents are unemployed;
53.75% of the residents live below the Federal poverty level[61]
Average per capita income in Oglala Lakota County is $8,768 and ranks as the “poorest” county in the nation.[61]
The infant mortality rate is five times higher than the national average;
Native American amputation rates due to diabetes are three to four times higher than the national average;
Death rate due to diabetes is three times higher than the national average;
Teen suicide is four times the national average; and
Average life expectancy on Pine Ridge is 66.81 years, the lowest in the United States. Other statistics, attributed to the Pine Ridge hospital, cite an average life expectancy of just 47 years for men and 55 years for women.

Rabz
March 11, 2022 10:32 pm

Cats – blundering into the minefield that is racist politics in this country – the appalling behaviour of a not insignificant number of indodgenees has been excused for way too long.

Lots of women and children (if they weren’t dead or irreparably traumatised) might agree.

It is endangering the stability of entire jurisdictions, e.g. the Nothing Territory.

However, the sound ones have a wonderful, implacable spokeslady going into bat on their behalf.

Probably won’t make a difference though. Presumably, the rellies of the dead Walker can always take up their case with the CCP. 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 11, 2022 10:33 pm

The respective situations are quite similar.

Name one casino owned and operated by fullblood Australian indig.

Also, Steven Seagal never played a rogue blackfella returning to his homeland to kill evil oil drillers.

rickw
rickw
March 11, 2022 10:35 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 11, 2022 10:36 pm

Detectives warned senior NT cops against rushing to charge Zachary Rolfe with murder after Kumanjayi Walker shooting

259 comments, almost all supporting Rolfe – article suddenly closed for comment…

Indolent
Indolent
March 11, 2022 10:40 pm

Nurses, teachers, all sorts of workers…..no tick required anymore?

I’m still now allowed into the Bridge club.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 11, 2022 10:45 pm

The day after Constable Rolfe shot and killed that career criminal – a slightly latter-day Ricky Slater, but worse – the NT Chief Minister, Michael Gunner very quickly sorted out the NT Commish, Jamie Chalker, to ensure this young copper was charged with murder to shore up his ailing government, which was more on the nose than usual with the indig folk.

Later that day, he stood at a presser in the desert in front of all sorts of indig, and said ‘consequences would flow’ from the shooting. Three days later, Rolfe was in the cells in Darwin being charged with that murder, thus buying Gunner (and Chalker) some breathing space.

The ‘consequences would flow’ statement sparked the ire of many at the time, who (rightly, as it turned out) believed that a massive stitch-up would ensue.

Skip to this afternoon. This was Rolfe’s barrister on the courthouse steps (the NT News):

“CONSEQUENCES will flow” from what Zach Rolfe’s lawyers claim was an “appalling investigation” and “flawed prosecution” of the NT Police officer, his barrister has warned.

Speaking outside the Supreme Court after not guilty verdicts were handed down on all charges against Constable Rolfe on Friday, his lead counsel, David Edwardson QC, said there were “no winners in this case”.

“A young man has died and that’s tragic,” he said.

“At the same time, Zachary Rolfe, in my view, was wrongly charged in the first place – it was an appalling investigation and that’s very much regrettable.

“A number of public figures have had quite a lot to say before he was charged and, again, that’s regrettable and unfortunate.

“But I have one last thing to say – consequences will flow.”

Get the chequebook out, Gunner. Rolfe wants to come back to work, the indig don’t want him to work, but there is absolutely nothing stopping him starting again now. His parents are already millionaires in their own right. Rolfe might just get a number with seven zeros on the end of it, and good on him if he does.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 11, 2022 10:47 pm

Kumanjayi Walker’s family demands a ban on police guns in the bush and reform to ‘racist’ criminal justice system

Amos Aikman
Northern Correspondent
@amosaikman
4:09PM March 11, 2022
No Comments

Representatives of Kumanjayi Walker’s family and of the outback community of Yuendumu have demanded criminal law reform and a ban on police guns in the bush after they failed to achieve “justice” through the murder prosecution of Zachary Rolfe.

Speaking outside the NT Supreme Court in Darwin, Warlpiri elders voiced their fury that the jury that acquitted the young constable did not include any Warlpiri or noticeably Aboriginal people.

They said the system was “racist” and ignored traditional law.

Ned Jampijinpa Hargraves described the unanimous verdict as “another sad day” and shouted towards the NT Legislative Assembly building: “When are we going to get justice?” “No guns in remote communities – we don’t want no guns,” he said.

“Enough is enough. It has got to stop … we don’t want to see another black young fella or a girl get shot.”

Warren Japanangka Williams said he and others from the Red Centre region travelled far to Darwin expecting “neutral ground where we could have a multicultural jury”.

“We felt left out. Are we not part of Australia?” he asked. “We want Yapa people on juries who can hear or tell other jury members how we see it; it’s always Kardiya (non-Aboriginal) people seeing it through their eyes.”

Mr Williams also questioned why Constable Rolfe was bailed on murder charges for more than two years when Aboriginal people facing lesser charges were routinely held on remand.

“The justice system seems to be really dishonest; it helps Kardiya avoid justice instead of making them accountable,” he said.

“In our law … if someone kills someone else, they get speared across both legs, and that finishes the conflict. Zachary should face the Yapa system law, I think.”

Valerie Napaljarri Martin said the court system had not “recognised the needs of Warlpiri people”, leaving them feeling “so empty”. ”We are the First Nations people, but we are still being disrespected and ignored all the time,” she said.

“We are all so full of anger and grief. It is a racist system that we’ve got here in Australia … we demand an end to guns in our communities. Look what happened during the trial: a young fella, the same age as Kumanjayi, was shot six times in Palmerston.”

She also called for more support to help elders keep young people out of jails.

Also suddenly closed for comment…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 11, 2022 10:48 pm

I see that tje Kenworth King now declares Australia is the DeAtH CaMp he has been Nuffing about all this time

Remarkable- Because the last I checked, the Wagners did not build Australia for the Queensland Government’s Panicky Plan B, with some extra Federal funding.

Nor did Dan Andrews and his maaaaaaates AnNoUnCe the construction of Australia on Day One of the Covid Crisis.

You are an utter embarrassment to Nuffies, Struth.

I’d tell you to give yourself an uppercut, but I fear that in your inept clumsiness, you’d miss and get Mrs. Struth instead…

Makka
Makka
March 11, 2022 10:48 pm

Reports Putin is mentioning “positive undertones” in talks with Ukraine.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 11, 2022 10:49 pm

we demand an end to guns in our communities

How about a ban on scissors, knives and spears?

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 11, 2022 10:51 pm

State Legislation gave American Indians the Exclusive Rights to operate Casinos.
They didn’t fund the construction and operation of the Casinos though, they just get a % of the profits.

No Indian ever did a lick of work in his life

Mark Twain

Dot
Dot
March 11, 2022 10:52 pm

Kumanjayi Walker’s family demands a ban on police guns in the bush and reform to ‘racist’ criminal justice system

Haha yeah nah, now fuck off.

Dot
Dot
March 11, 2022 10:53 pm

Reports Putin is mentioning “positive undertones” in talks with Ukraine.

Because he is nearing his war objectives of claiming the eastern prefectures in Ukraine?

Rabz
March 11, 2022 10:58 pm

article suddenly closed for comment…

Happened a lot before I cancelled the subscription three years ago and is still happening, evidently.

Anyone maintaining a subscription to the Oz is:

– A masochist
– Pretending to essay why J’ism is beyond redemption
– One of the few who has their two word comments posted, e.g. “Me agree”, Me Briandaed”, “The Mudrock!”,
– H B Bear, Padbury, WA: “They don’t call him Paul “is wrong, again” Kelly, for no good reason, I tells ya”. 🙂

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
March 11, 2022 10:59 pm

The council purchased the 49ha parcel of land off Coolum-Yandina Rd in May, 2014, for $1.65m after the cane land was sold less than two years’ prior for $770,000.

This part pricked my spidey senses. Property sells less than 2 years prior then more than doubles in value when the council buys… Would like to see who bought it, their associations or business interests.

May be innocent but a lot of this goes on in LGA’s and is never scrutinised while ratepayers cop multiple CPI rises.

Indolent
Indolent
March 11, 2022 11:05 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 11, 2022 11:07 pm

North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency chief executive Priscilla Atkins said: “Lessons must be learnt by police from this tragedy. Aboriginal people must be safe in deals with police.

“Police need to change how they act in Aboriginal communities. Guns are not the way.’’

Rabz
March 11, 2022 11:08 pm

Reports Putin is mentioning “positive undertones” in talks with Ukraine.

Makka – any mention of “negative overtones”? 😕

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 11, 2022 11:08 pm

This is from the Wiki entry on South Dakota’s infamous Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.

Groogs be Googlin’ ‘gin.

Makka
Makka
March 11, 2022 11:09 pm

Because he is nearing his war objectives of claiming the eastern prefectures in Ukraine?

That was a forgone conclusion. Additionally Kiev is effectively surrounded, Kharkiv and Mariupol are under Russian control with a land bridge established to Crimea from Russia.

It will be interesting to see what Putin wants from Zhelensky with respect to de-nazification and Nato status guarantees. I don’t see the Azov Brigades walking away scott free.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 11, 2022 11:11 pm

H B Bear, Padbury, WA:

That’s actionable.

Makka
Makka
March 11, 2022 11:14 pm

Makka – any mention of “negative overtones”?

I reckon the last 11 days is sufficient negativity.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 11, 2022 11:19 pm

I did play golf once at Marangaroo once. I think I might have lost a ball when I hooked it off the edge of the world.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
March 11, 2022 11:19 pm

Wow, how much did I miss. Was up over the Mingela Range in the more remote Northern Goldfields & Upper Flinders, very little mobile service.

Shane Warne gone, Kitching same, something about flooding down south (Please send some here apart from scattered storms an oppressive mid 40’s every day) and Vlad still pretty well much on similar lines when I left. Heading back up Monday for another fortnight, hope the next 10 isn’t as eventful!!!

Read a good book in my off time but the author does get a little emotional towards the end. QF72 The untold story, interesting POV from the pilot. Top Ender got one of your books for the next swing.

Rabz
March 11, 2022 11:20 pm

That’s actionable.

Yo! 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 11, 2022 11:20 pm

Cleared: Zachary Rolfe lashes top cops after acquitted of all charges

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Kristin Shorten
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12 minutes ago March 11, 2022

Zachary Rolfe, the Northern ­Territory police constable acquitted of murdering indigenous man Kumanjayi Walker in the remote town of Yuendumu, says he was “thrown under the bus’’ by police leadership to appease an angry crowd and arrested despite “evidence that cleared me’’.

In a verdict delivered on Friday, a jury found Constable Rolfe not guilty of three charges – murder, manslaughter and engaging in a violent act causing death – relating to Walker’s shooting in the central NT community of Yuendumu in November 2019.

The jury, chosen from the Darwin region, handed down its unanimous decision after about six hours of deliberation.

The trial became a racial flashpoint after Walker’s death sparked indigenous protests around the country in late 2019 and was picked up by the Black Lives Matter movement.

It renewed debate around the effects of alcohol and violence in remote communities, the operation of the justice system and the use of guns by police.

After the verdict, Walker’s supporters argued that the justice system had failed them and paid no heed to traditional law.

It’s an almost theological argument – does “traditional law” have any place in the twenty first century?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 11, 2022 11:29 pm

Top Ender got one of your books for the next swing.

The mailman’s camels have just delivered “Zero Hour in Broome.” Looking forward to reading that book.

Zipster
Zipster
March 11, 2022 11:29 pm

took me about 6 months to piece the puzzle together that it finally clicked that it was almost certainly long covid.

what I found was exercise kept triggering the problems. prednisone was able to put the fire out , but any form of exercise triggered a flare up of symptoms. this is virtually a universal sign of long covid. pred did not by itself address the underlying cause.

a company call incelldx is at the cutting edge of research and treatment for long covid. these are the people that developed retrovirals for HIV. they examined people with long covid and found S1 spike protein inside certain types of monocytes. they also found these dysfunctional monocytes to be extremely sticky to endothelial blood vessel lining. they also looked at a large number of cytokines to identify what was going on. from this they were able to deduce that fractalkine was one key to dislodging these damaged cells. statins are fractalkine antagonists, they started long covid patients on statins and sure enough people started getting better.

they now have a 14 cytokine panel blood test from which they prescribe various off label meds. the only way to get this is to go to the US. this also covers vaccine injuries.

Dr Bruce Patterson Presentation at Georgetown University on Diagnosis and Treatment of Long COVID

Rabz
March 11, 2022 11:53 pm

One of my favourite versions of “Carolyn’s Fingers” has now been enlisted into this alleged contretemps in Eastern Europe.

Collectivists – everything that is good and proper has to be tainted by their weird obsessive politics …

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 12, 2022 12:11 am

It’s an almost theological argument – does “traditional law” have any place in the twenty first century?

You’ll never be appointed to the High Court asking those sort of questions.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2022 12:31 am

Rabz:

The ongoing and seemingly interminable abuse of indodgenous women and kiddies on this continent is a disgrace – and it is all thanks to soft white collectivist inner city racists enabling braindead drug and alcohol fuelled indodgenous meatheads** to claim they’re enacting sacred stone age rites.

Eloquently put, Rabz.
May I steal it?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 12, 2022 12:35 am

You’ll never be appointed to the High Court asking those sort of questions.

I’m going back quite a few years, but two of the young roosters, in one of the outback communities – Wiluna ? – were charged with some fairly serious cases involving teenage girls, and granted bail. They claimed that whitefella law didn’t apply, and they would accept “traditional tribal law.”

“Traditional tribal law” involved two very large stones…..and said young roosters were looking for a lift out of Wiluna, and as far away as they could get……..

Rabz
March 12, 2022 12:44 am

Winston – trying to articulate my frustration with events outside of Sydney.

Steal away.

Winston Smith
March 12, 2022 12:47 am

WokDoctor:

The council purchased the 49ha parcel of land off Coolum-Yandina Rd in May, 2014, for $1.65m after the cane land was sold less than two years’ prior for $770,000.
This part pricked my spidey senses. Property sells less than 2 years prior then more than doubles in value when the council buys… Would like to see who bought it, their associations or business interests.

Under the beneficent rule of King Winston, who in His Wisdom will set up the Office of Royal Accountant and General Investigator of Dodgy Shit, this particular transaction would be examined under the Justice Microscope and the miscreants would be promptly donating their organs to the Royal Organ Bank. (TM)
I only need 18,693,000 votes to set up this Paradise of Justice & Freedom.
Any takers?

Struth
March 12, 2022 12:53 am

I see that tje Kenworth King now declares Australia is the DeAtH CaMp he has been Nuffing about all this time

You don’t do much, do you comrade?

Frigging unionists.

You see nothing.
You’re a sandwich short of a picnic.

Not the brightest bulb in the dark room.

A few bricks short of a wall

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer

A few cards short of a deck

As sharp as a marble

With one oar in the water

Your elevator doesn’t go all the way to the top floor

Lights are on, but nobody’s home

Fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down

Took an IQ test and the results came back negative

Dumb as a box of rocks
and

pissing in the wind.
You couldn’t find your own arse with two hands and a mirror

And I reckon you’re a cock smoker.
I thought you’d be thankful as I actually had to go and give you an uptick to get your little mates started on it.
Who needs enemies , hey?

Winston Smith
March 12, 2022 1:00 am

Rabz:

Winston – trying to articulate my frustration with events outside of Sydney.
Steal away.

Tell us a story, Rabz – you’ve been very quiet lately. Meanwhile I have discovered a slab of XXXX Bitter that is perilously close to its use by date, so duty calls.
But seriously, there are many things that increase our frustration levels above the norm.
Unload.

MatrixTransform
March 12, 2022 1:14 am

Turns out that Dulux Snowy Mountains is the stuff that’s needed.

see, it has an ever so slight green tinge to it and if you consider the whole colour wheel thingy, we apparently need to balance all the red and umber in the wood and those fucking floor tiles.

tonally, after paying for a colour consultant, I’m much more informed today that I was last week

struth was right … worth every cent

srr
srr
March 12, 2022 2:23 am

#JenPsakiQuotes #JenPsaki #Trump2024
Yeup, She Said That Shit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce2q-Fvw6z4

Mar 12, 2022
Gary Lamb

The Sky Forge
2 hours ago
Yes she’s that cocky.
They think there will be zero consequences for them.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 12, 2022 2:52 am

Rockdoctor and Zulu, if you got hold of a copy of ZHIB you’re lucky – it’s been out of print for a while and secondhand ones are a bit too pricey.

rosie
rosie
March 12, 2022 3:42 am
Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 12, 2022 4:22 am

Struth says:
March 12, 2022 at 12:53 am

At least I don’t shit in my hands and clap, then try to hide my mendacious deflections and glass jaw behind a wall of personal slanders.

Remember Struth, the DeAtH CaMp at Toowoomba was all your own idea.
Ditto the idea that Dan Andrews was BuIlDiNg one in Victoria on Day One of the covid crisis. Or was it that he AnNoUnCeD one? I don’t know, because you can’t keep your own story straight.

Be a man and own it, rather than a little bitch constantly trying to pretend you always meant something else.

rosie
rosie
March 12, 2022 5:43 am

Your pearls of wisdom are being wasted on an old thread Rex.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
March 12, 2022 7:46 am

Page podium!

(As if that’s an achievement…)

shatterzzz
March 12, 2022 7:57 am

“Police need to change how they act in Aboriginal communities. Guns are not the way.’’

This might be a tad radical but .. Don’t break the law(s) might be more effective .. !

Helen
Helen
March 12, 2022 12:09 pm

so if duckduckgo is now censoring – revolover news Et tu, DuckDuckGo what do I choose as my new everyday search engine?

Helen
Helen
March 12, 2022 12:14 pm

“Police need to change how they act in Aboriginal communities. Guns are not the way.’’

Look, it is obvious that Police and Health Workers can never reach the levels of cultural awareness required for their work, I suggest the government withdraw all such services and leave communities to manage their own affairs, as they know the way to do it.

Eventually, those who are heartily sick of it will move to the larger towns and those who are happy with lawlessness and chromic illness will remain.

Helen
Helen
March 12, 2022 12:14 pm

chronic – I wish there was an edit function

Helen
Helen
March 12, 2022 1:22 pm

For all of you southerners lauding how wonderful it will be to have Jacinta Price in parliament, I ask – for whom?

She will be the third aboriginal woman senator for the NT and the fourth aboriginal woman federal representative. The NT has just two senate quotas, Malandirri McCarthy holding one. Veterinarian Sam McMahon the dis endorsed current conservative Senator (who also has aboriginal forebears – but she chooses not to make a thing of it) successfully lobbied with Malandirri for the NT to not lose its second quota due to a fall in population.

With ALP’s Marion Scrymgour to be elected in Lingiari, we will have our fourth aboriginal lady NT representative, and she is a very able politician, previously having held Ministerial portfolios in the NT ALP Government before this one.

It might surprise some to know that aboriginal NT is not just a population of unemployed people on communities, in fact I would hazard they are the smaller part of the indigenous population with the majority of aboriginal people in employment of some sort, and at every level, not just park rangers, but doctors (my gynae), nurses, grader drivers, clerks, tradies, all walks.

It suits the aboriginal industry to keep the communities because that is the road to the river of gold and free money. So they will never, ever be fixed up, so long as there is money available and white man’s guilt to sign the cheque.

All of it ties back to communities (ghettoes) and nothing will improve until people realise this. It is the existence of the communities themselves that enable this and their legacy is bashed and raped kids and women.

In fact, the communities all need to be shut down and people move to town – it will be hell for a few years but eventually education and jobs will win out.

Apart from the sorry communities, the NT is also made up of a variety of business and industry, and all of us need able conservative representation at the federal level. I have great respect for Malandirri and Marion, who are ALP, but I want a strong knowledgeable conservative business and industry voice too and I dont believe Jacinta has that.

So excuse my cynicism but how exactly Jacinta will make it better for all Territorians? Or will she prove to be a one trick pony?

Only time will prove me right, (or wrong) but I am concerned Jacinta might prove to be just a black Rosie Batty.

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