Flingduk

That’s a bit rude, Winston.

I personally suspect that ducks to not appreciate being flung.

I do know that also have a very inflexible and aggressively interpreted consideration of ‘personal space,’ which is always ‘large.’

And the buggers have nerves of steel. There is no bird alive, that plays the game of Chicken as well as a duck…

I shall attempt to clear up the “immune suppression” thing.

Briefly read about back in the early days of the coof.

In general it is possible for a vaccine or severe illness to effectively (usually temporarily) deplete a bodies ability to fight a different infection.

Its been know about for a long time before covid and is not a controversial thing.
Measles for example..
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK2487/
MV infection produces an immune system paradox. MV infection, while inducing lifelong immunity, also suppresses the immune system leading to an increase in susceptibility to other, secondary infections

In effect the body appears to either focus too much on one virus at the expense of ‘normal” immunity or actually exhausts itself.

So yes, it *could* be possible repeated immunizations are having this effect, but there would want to be a shitload of evidence proving it.

Then again, its also just as possible a bad dose of any viral infection could (particularly in the elderly) cause the same effect.

No Longer Worthwhile To Live In America – Interview With Gonzalo Lira

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0mUsrhMEug

May 24, 2014
drescapes

According to Gonzalo Lira, “the U.S. Government views its citizens as a threat that must dominated, controlled and crushed”. The http://DRescapes.com team interviews Gonzalo Lira, the outspoken novelist, filmmaker, venture capitalist and economic commentator about the state of the collapse of the economy and wisdom of expatriation to another country. This is the first part of a three part interview* and it is packed full of common sense guidance for Americans facing a steady degradation of the quality of life in the United States. Barry and Gonzalo discuss frankly the advantages of life overseas and the realities that different families will have different needs and preferences.

In summary, Gonzalo shares with us that “the government is hell bent on squeezing every last cent out of you for the benefit of the ultra wealthy oligarchs”.
[* Parts 2 & 3 have been removed by YouTube]

The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation is believed to be considering a fourth jab for people around the country within days.

Some people already have had their fourth jab and are now getting their fifth.

A few months ago I was listening to a talk back radio program where a doctor would take calls from the listeners about their medical issues. One bloke rang in to ask about getting his fifth jab.

He said that he had taken two AZ jabs in Australia, then spent some time in South Africa on work related matters, where he had taken another two Pfizer jabs. He was now back in Australia and he thought he was due for another jab and wanted the doctor’s advice on which brand he should try.

There was a stunned silence from the doctor for a brief period, he was probably surprised that someone had already taken four jabs and was still alive, before he replied in his best doctorly voice that all brands were equally wonderful and efficacious and the caller should just follow his GP’s advice.

Annual boosters “just like the flu shot” was mentioned by an “expert” on ABC radio news today.

Indeed – You will now purchase your immunity annually .. just like any other ‘antivirus software’

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Annual boosters “just like the flu shot” was mentioned by an “expert” on ABC radio news today.

Totally useless since the vaccine gives next to no protection against Omicron and its newer varieties, and even against Delta the antibodies are basically gone after about four months based on the Israeli and Swedish empirical data. Which means another eight months of heightened vulnerability due to the lymphocyte suppression problem. Since Omicron is weak as piss that’s not really an issue. The vaccine side effects certainly are though. Same issue: potential for clots, inflammation and autoimmune problems due to the mRNA plastering blood vessel linings with spike proteins.

Again the problem with the T-lymphocytes is they’re sort of the handymen on the immune system, so they can probably attack an Omicron initial infection as much as a Delta one. But if the Delta booster removes them then you’re going to get Omicron over and over.

Fun that Hillary and Psaki have been reported to’ve tested positive. I think it’s the second time for Psaki. They’d be immunized up to their eyeballs as politically there’s no way could they not be.

TN, just now:

those witnesses’ evidence would be admissible only for the very limited purpose of showing that the story wasn’t recently concocted. It’s inadmissible as hearsay on the actual question of whether Peanut Head did rape Kathy.

Yup. Admissible only to the point of proving that conversations occurred, not as to the truth of the content of those conversations.

Apparently.

Sancho Panzer says:
March 24, 2022 at 12:56 pm

dover0beach says:

March 24, 2022 at 11:41 am

Get off those shit sites and make an effort at an unbiased assessment.
For fuck’s sake.

…
Is the French MoD and Gray Connolly now Russian disinformation?

That is some chutzpah.
Directing the blog owner as to which sites he should not look at or link to.
BTW, even if Dover was biased, so what?
It’s his site FFS.
He can post what he likes.

True.
Also true is that Arky also made it clear publicly that his position is personal & bias.

Meanwhile, others post [not so] cryptic ‘warnings’ to the site owner as well as having bitchy little private email exchanges to try to get the place running how they want it.

BTW, I’m in utter disagreeance with Arky on the Ukraine situation, likewise in trying to direct the site owner, or those bitchy little private email exchanges would not have been left to cool.

3 family members are double vaxxed and have caught covid. For the second time since their jabs.

Do they test for the variant when you get a positive result for covid?

Dick Ed

Convenient time for Sherriff to come forward again, what, 8 years later?

Any more convenient than the “Mean Girrlz” coming up with the deceased complainant in the Porter case? What? Twenty or so years later?

Sancho

Check your email.

Certainly Michael Smith would know. He’s been following this for years.

Yeah, it always surfaces again at the worst time for PeanutHead.
Is Smith a stooge for Albanese?

Plasmamortar et al:

Annual boosters “just like the flu shot” was mentioned by an “expert” on ABC radio news today.
Indeed – You will now purchase your immunity annually .. just like any other ‘antivirus software’
I am curious as to what the plan is for those who still refuse once the screws tighten further?
Also, will this bioscan QR code crap be tied to our ability to have a drivers licence or any other form on anything?

I will not be surprised to see that happen. I would also not be surprised to see benefit limitations coming. It’s the sort of people our politicians are.
I also don’t remember seeing the threat/promise to make permanent the State of Emergency, giving government control over us similar to every dictator in history.
But here we are!

Yeah, the Ukes are Knouting ethnic Russian men and girls, then PlasticWrapping them to posts and leaving them there until they’re dead.
Arky The Shill reckons he’s seen worse at batchelor parties.

JC

I’m pretty sure that Winston has never claimed to be COVID vaxed. Quite the opposite.

Dick Ed

No other details, so 99% likely to be Poofters.

Are they like Flamers?

Knuckle Dragger:

Yup. Admissible only to the point of proving that conversations occurred, not as to the truth of the content of those conversations.

I understand that Kathy Sherriff has been pushing the matter for many years. Even to the extent of providing names and addresses of people who vouched for her.
The Police, however were not able to follow up these leads. So there’s a history of refusal to investigate and obfuscate on the behalf of the authorities.
Circumstantial, but I’d like to see the responsible detectives paperwork.

St Ruth appears to have scored himself a temporary gig belting out the tune (if it could be dignified with such a term) for the latest UAP ads

As a purely random example, here’s the UAP cow-candidate for just one Quenthland electorate. From the Cloive site:

The UAP endorses Ms Tracy Bennett as the chosen candidate in Wide Bay.

Born and raised in the North of England, Tracy migrated to Australia in 2007. She was raised to be an independent woman who respects the importance of fighting for personal rights and the truth.

Hang on. I thought that people to be entrusted with representing The People (in Queensland, at least) had to have been here for at least a couple of hundred years.

So they would ‘know a little more’. Isn’t that right stix? Remember that one?

Building on a career in sales, marketing and account management, Tracey is currently Regional Sales Manager for an American manufacturer, covering Australia, NZ and Pacific Islands.

Globalist. Probably part of the WEF, sinking the anglo-white-Christian male faction from the inside.

One thing is for sure, I am not going to stand back and allow a man’s life to be ruined based on lies.

Well, on the one hand you’re shilling for a Labor Government and on the other hand you’re sticking up for Christian Porter 5 times a day.
You do realise that an Albanese Government will hound Porter from day 1 about the identity of the donors to his Fighting Fund and the allegations from 1988?

srr says:
March 24, 2022 at 7:30 pm

srrsays:
March 24, 2022 at 7:32 pm

Told youse the Nuff-rage was coming.

I just didn’t predict how many ‘essential’ spam-links had to pop up first.

SRR, given you are now consciously responding to posts some 8-9 hours old or more, are you running some kind of bot script that posts your hyperlinked ‘thoughts’ at regular intervals during the day?

And then log in during gaps in transmission?

Explain how. What is missing in the Novavax vaccine which means it CAN’T work on Omicron.

Isn’t Novavax a spike protein vaxx? If so, doesn’t it have similar limitations (and, what’s important, likely similar potential detriment to natural immunity) as the other spike protein vaxxes, even if Novavax is safer and at least as effective?

Are they like Flamers?

poofters?
Well, they’re responsible for at least a third of all Murders, that’s what you need to keep in mind, SpongeBob.

Pour petrol over him, light a match

Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.

Explain how. What is missing in the Novavax vaccine which means it CAN’T work on Omicron.

Its been in development since Early 2020, meaning the Spike protein it uses must be modelled off a very early variant – probably Alpha, meaning it now obsolete by several generations. Most of its efficacy data relates to Alpha and Beta, none to Gamma, Delta or Omicron.

Its been in development since Early 2020, meaning the Spike protein it uses must be modelled off a very early variant – probably Alpha, meaning it now obsolete by several generations. Most of its efficacy data relates to Alpha and Beta, none to Gamma, Delta or Omicron.

Yes, but with respect, that doesn’t answer my questions.

How different – as a macrmolecule is the spike protein from alpha to omicron?

If you don’t support Novavax, you’re a white supremacist.

That means you, Greg Hunt & Albert Bourla.

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I am curious as to what the plan is for those who still refuse once the screws tighten further?

Exit Arsetralia permanently.

Knuckle Dragger:

I have zero inside mail on this particular thing, but I would suspect there’s a difference between ‘were not able to follow up’ because there were no witnesses, no forensics and perhaps several versions of an implausible story with different dates and times, and actual ‘refusal to investigate’ after a 27 year old allegation lands on their desks with nothing to support it.

That’s why I put the paperwork part in. Don’t Detectives have to write all this down in their official notebooks?

Circumstantial, but I’d like to see the responsible detectives paperwork.

Plasmamortarsays:
March 24, 2022 at 8:23 pm

I’ve been sitting in a WHS (Work Health Safety) training course the last 3 days surrounded by communists…

The COVID topic came up, each one of them, apart from myself, quite literally quoted the favourite communist lines in regards to people being vaccinated.

1. “It’s for the greater good”
2. “The ends justify the means”

And yes, these people literally said this in those exact words… no variation

My heartfelt sympathies that you’ve had to endure 3 days of WHS training and to add insult to injury, you were surrounded by unthinking robots who toe the government line.

We have a couple of those types on here too but at least not in person.

Explain how. What is missing in the Novavax vaccine which means it CAN’T work on Omicron.

Dot – The Omicron spike protein is substantially different in shape from the Delta spike protein. That is well known ever since Omicron turned up. The data showed that two doses of Pfizer gave barely any protection against Omicron, but a third dose seemed to give a fair amount. That was about the time that ATAGI brought forward the booster to about 3 months after the second dose iirc. Weird huh?

The problem is that Delta spike protein derived antibodies don’t seem to bind very well to the Omicron spike protein because of the different shape. There seems to be some binding interaction, which is presumably why having a shed-load of Delta antibodies from three doses does give some protection. Which then degrades in about four months, since they’re the same antibodies that degraded in the Swedish and Israeli studies.

Pfizer has been developing an Omicron specific mRNA vaccine, which I presume produces the Omicron spike protein. So far it hasn’t appeared. Seeing that Omicron is so mild it’s pretty moot.

As to Novavax the advantage of it is it does not cause cells to display spike proteins on their surfaces, which means the clotting, autoimmune and inflammation issues should be a lot less. But it still is the Delta/Alpha spike protein, which we know tends to irreversibly bind to the gp120 receptor on T-cells. Which seems to put them out of action, at least until more are produced from stem cells.

I have much less concern about the potential side effects of Novavax, but since Omicron is roughly on a par with the common cold it seems pretty unnecessary, especially since it could knock out the T-cells that give first response immunity. The spike protein is the problem in this: but unfortunately that is the only real vaccine target for such a virus, since the spikes stick out in all directions like a burr. No surprise then why coronaviruses have not been good vaccine targets hitherto.

My cynical reason for liking Novavax is that if the insane regulators require stupid vax mandates then Novavax is probably the least harmful choice. I don’t think it will be medically effective, just that it’s a lot less likely to be medically harmful. And in getting it you then receive your magic amulet saying you are holy and can work or go on an aeroplane.

I could give links for all of what I cite here, but I have already done so several times and frankly I can’t be bothered doing it again. I’m off to read my book.

There’s always some truth in the matter.

The backers of Australia’s homegrown COVID-19 vaccine candidate today announced a halt to its further development, after some of the first people to receive the vaccine in a safety trial generated antibodies to an unintended target, the AIDS virus. A small fragment of an HIV protein is a component of the vaccine used to add stability to the intended antibody target, the spike protein of the pandemic coronavirus SARS-CoV-2.

https://www.science.org/content/article/development-unique-australian-covid-19-vaccine-halted

The Omicron spike protein is substantially different in shape from the Delta spike protein.

…so why does this matter for a protein sub unit vaccine?

But it still is the Delta/Alpha spike protein, which we know tends to irreversibly bind to the gp120 receptor on T-cells.

Okay, but…

1. It isn’t. It’s a fragment of it.
2. What does “tend to irreversibly” mean at a molecular level?
3. How do you know 2.?
4. Does that mean everyone who ever had any form of COVID, or at least alpha/delta will have immune disease forever?

There’s a potential upside to making forklift training prohibitively costly.

Unlike cars, they don’t have the same high speed collision risk as a self driving car or truck.

If the courses get too long, firms will get robots and sack the shit eating grin idiots with a ticket who would gladly throw an unlicensed but competent person under a proverbial bus.

Unlike cars, they don’t have the same high speed collision risk as a self driving car or truck.

Err…. They still go fast enough to kill you or seriously mess up you day…
Also, they have zero modern safety features that a car has, so a low speed collision will still result in your face being flattened.

JC

Here’s a suggestion transplantees should be getting a 4th dose!

Beyond my skill set!

By strange coincidence just bumped into sister of my daughter in law.

Both their families were unvaxxed and both families got Covid recently. All mild.

Mentioned Palmer exemption and she says she and family have one as well. First I heard but you get a 4 month exemption if have had Covid. All legit on the phone.

Their decisions not to get vaxxed nothing to do with me.

The 4 month exemption raises an interesting question about people not taking up the booster. Is it partly due to the many who will have the exemptions.

Having said that it is first I have heard there were such exemption as my impression was they wanted you to get vaxxed even if had Covid. Funny never read an article about the exemptions and suspect many might not be aware can get it.

Unlike cars, they don’t have the same high speed collision risk as a self driving car or truck.

Having accidentally discovered I’ve been lifting 2.55 and 2.6 tonne wheel assemblies off trucks with a 2.5t forklift, and had rims overbalance and slip off the forks and attempt to flatten whatever’s beneath them,* I consider the risks of forklift trucks to be something else again…

* The rim and its supporting rack fell along the length of the tines, so I caught it before it landed on the turntable of the sandblaster I had been trying to lift it out of. A big bang, but no damage done to anything. And valuable lessons learned about Centres of Gravity

Having said that it is first I have heard there were such exemption as my impression was they wanted you to get vaxxed even if had Covid. Funny never read an article about the exemptions and suspect many might not be aware can get it.

Eliminating a virus is tilting-at-windmills folly.

Running a mass vaccination campaign with the full and unstinting application of the State’s monopoly on force, combined with (initially) favourable PR circumstances is much easier by comparison.

All costs [plus lost wages] paid by the Employer.
Someone hadda suck purty hard to score that gig.

not really, nobody wanted the role, including me…
I believe it’s a company/union agreement…

Just have to see how it goes.

‘calli says:
March 24, 2022 at 1:23 pm
“In August, Australian police said they would “allege in court the man (Houston) knew information relating to the sexual abuse of a young male in the 1970s and failed to bring that information to the attention of police.”

A government inquiry found that Houston became aware of allegations against his preacher father, Frank Houston, in 1999 and allowed him to retire quietly rather than report him to police. His father confessed to the abuse before he died in 2004 at age 82, The Associated Press reported.”

That’s the charge.’
_______________________

“became aware of allegations”
“knew information relating to”

Didn’t witness.
Didn’t have evidence.

How many cats have “known information” but didn’t go running to Police because they didn’t witness & didn’t have evidence of something “alleged”, not proven?

So O.K., what about those extra evil people who get off on telling people the evils they’ve done; is everyone who doesn’t now go running to police to inform them of what someone’s confessed to, now going to be “guilty of failing to bring that information to the attention of police.”?

BTW, I detest ‘prosperity Christianity’ but not as much as I abhor baby rapists who use their Govt, Court & Police connections to go after & destroy their enemy, the greatest of which is Christianity.

So O.K., what about those extra evil people who get off on telling people the evils they’ve done

Indeed.

You’re cute when you suffer self-awareness failure…

#TheEvil.

Eliminating a virus is tilting-at-windmills folly.

I’ve been seeing several stories in Israel of polio outbreaks.
Caused it seems by the vaccine leading to symptomless infections.
Which then are passed on to unvaccinated people.
One should make sure a killed-virus vaccine is suitably dead before administering it.

Initial findings: Polio found in Beit Shemesh, Tiberias, Modi’in Illit (17 Mar)
Two additional polio carriers located in Jerusalem (10 Mar)
Child diagnosed with polio may be paralyzed in half his body (7 Mar)

It wasn’t long ago that WHO was hoping that polio could be completely eradicated, and there’d been much angst in Pakistan because of vaccination teams being murdered by jihadis who thought it would stop them siring more jihadis.

It wasn’t long ago that WHO was hoping that polio could be completely eradicated, and there’d been much angst in Pakistan because of vaccination teams being murdered by jihadis who thought it would stop them siring more jihadis.

Ignorance and fear make people do terrible things.

Similar attitudes were encountered in the DRC during the last Ebola outbreak- Once rumours spread that the vaccination effort was really attempts to give everyone Ebola, and the sick and dead were being taken away and experimented on, WHO contact tracers, care teams and vaccinators alike were routinely set upon and bashed. Sick and dead (and all of them infectious) people were forcibly absconded from hospitals back home, where they continued to spread it. Not helped that local custom requires corpses be washed before burial, exposing the washers to contaminated clothing and virus-laden bodily fluids.

Till I make my “ don’t put your fingers where you wouldn’t put your dick” series.

Would they let you actually do something as eminently practical, pragmatic and cost-effective as an in-house safety training programme?

And how would you steal the sausages you’d need to demonstrate the consequences of pinch points, etc. from the caterers?

“Nobody expects the Ukrainian Inquisition.”

Oh, lets toss in a little Monty Python straw man to hide the sting.
How did you keep it to only one exclamation point?

It’s you who needs to grow up.
Worse, you’ve also now also chosen to join the cats great bullshitters and smear with utter bullshit those you have no argument against.

Farmer Gez says:
March 24, 2022 at 1:52 pm
Nazis had been doing & were about to do, you are the propagandist for The Evil.

Nobody expects the Ukrainian Inquisition.
Chief weapons are surprise, fear, ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical devotion to Putin.
Clown show ssr. Grow up!

The various groups of out, loud & proud Ukrainian Nazis have been terrorising Ukrainians who aren’t rabid Russian haters, since before the Wests backing of the demonic Euromaidan slaughters and they were already gathered in the Ukrainian Army about to ‘take back’ the Eastern Territories when Russia stopped them by invading first.

Also, do you remember (as you were around at the time), or even care, why that slime JC thought it clever to insanely twist “USSR” out of “srr”?

It was nothing to do with Putin or Communism.

It was because I reminded people of what G.K. Chesterton said about Russia being destined to save the West from secularism, again, and that I thanked God that Russians didn’t let generations of brutal totalitarianism kill their faith in God.

Only an evil, sick, twisted creep could take that background and torture it the way JC did, and only a weak, gullible fool would let themselves be carried along by it.

How can it be that there is no high level investigation into the NHS and police covering up the rape of that poor woman by a pervert in her hospital ward.
Imagine the agony of the ward staff having to lie in response to the organisation’s threats.
It recalls the unbelievable behaviour of QLD Health who sanctioned a contract nurse who had been raped in Torres Strait for daring to go public. They sacked her.
Government, fucking Government.
Pell, Icook, Porter –

srrsays:
March 24, 2022 at 9:36 pm

Welp, that confirms it.

SRR’s spam-posting of links by day and night is exactly that. Scripted spam-posting. With the occasional ‘real’ log-in to scream at us in between.

Catch up, SRR. We’ve only been lightly prodding and mocking your raging on behalf of Vlad Bae and his Holy War all Thursday…

I was once the one who didn’t step backwards when interested candidates for Health & Safety Rep were asked to step forward.

At least my 5-day course had a reasonably balanced (albeit pro-union) instructor. To add an air of authenticity, he even had enshortened finger tips on one hand. No course notes given, but we did receive a proper copy of the legislation.

I have a feeling that there is some expectation from the union rep that we will be his lackeys…

He definitely has the wrong person if he’s expecting that…

That’s different. I attended the course at the local TAFE. A reasonable cross section of students with a wide variety of relevant stories to chew on. And building certificates being gained across the hallway.

It will be interesting to see how the denialist’s spin Gonzalo Lira’s, “Suicide of the US”, or if they keep doing what’s popular here and ignoring it.

I watched both parts, srr, and enjoyed them. Some valuable ideas in there, thank you. Recommended.

I note that Fat Bastard credits ivermectin and HCQ for saving him from his recent Covid infection.

I credit Panadol with saving me.

Much cheaper – although I’m not running for the Senate and beyond on alternative therapies.

I have a feeling that there is some expectation from the union rep that we will be his lackeys…

A lady colleague of mine at FSH once got manipulated by our boss into going on one of those ‘Your Rights At Work’ courses run by the HSUWA.

After about half an hour of advocacy procedure training, the course spent the rest of the day advertising the woke causes du jour- The Gay Marriage ‘Yes’ campaign and Hyperfeminist Grrrl Power stuff.

Being a well-meaning and very collegiate individual who thought she might get something useful for all of us out of her day off, she felt gypped.

And every one of us who heard her story felt vicariously gypped also.

Another story of ‘Organised’ Labour in all its ‘glory:’ In 2018 or 19, the Unions in WA were trying to get their members to stand up an Aboriginal Union and sponsor indigenous members into it response to a Federal Government plan to try and encourage more people on the communities to take up Work-For-The-Dole.

Someone, somewhere in the Aboriginal Industry and ACTU unironically thought this was a brilliant idea to ‘protect’ Aboriginal people from ‘exploitation.’ They even had flyers and everything.

That stooge boss of ours brought in a small pile of the pamphlets and tried to sell the idea to us one Toolbox/AM Handover Meeting. I read it, managed to not roll my eyes at its premise (they sound like jaffas on a polished wooden floor) and thought nothing further of it.

They were all binned within a week and never discussed again.