Open Thread – Wednesday 23 Mar 2022


Ophelia, John Everett Millais, 1851/52

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Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
March 24, 2022 10:50 pm
Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 24, 2022 10:50 pm
John H.
John H.
March 24, 2022 10:56 pm

Dotsays:
March 24, 2022 at 10:11 pm
Back to diets.

Refined flour may be bad for us because of the lack of wheat germ oil.

Tip of the iceberg. Coals to Newcastle for you Dot but I wish more people would heed …

Role of antioxidants and a nutrient rich diet in Alzheimer’s disease

Note paragraph 16 and

Oral supplementation of vitamin C may be particularly desirable in humans, since humans are not able to synthesize vitamin C like many other animals [137].

We can’t absorb large amount of C in any one dose so I advise people to spread out the dosages during the day because plasma values decline very quickly, mostly going into tissues. The brain really likes C and E. We don’t need supplements but we should be consuming vit c rich foods on a frequent basis. It’s water soluble so we need to keep up a steady intake.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
March 24, 2022 11:00 pm

Rex why do you make me post this?
Why?
You think I like posting this sort of thing?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RblbZQth0KE

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 24, 2022 11:01 pm

We can’t absorb large amount of C in any one dose so I advise people to spread out the dosages during the day because plasma values decline very quickly, mostly going into tissues

And then straight out via the kidneys.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 24, 2022 11:01 pm

Rex why do you make me post this?
Why?
You think I like posting this sort of thing?

Yes.

Indolent
Indolent
March 24, 2022 11:03 pm

What reality?
The reality that Luc Montagnier died aged 89 on the 8th February 2022 and said nothing at all about boosters and Aids?

Well, according to this link from upthread, his very last tweet was on that subject.

srr
srr
March 24, 2022 11:05 pm

‘If the Jabs me & mine have had are so bad, how come we recover so easily from the the bugs they don’t protect us from?’

Why do me & mine who haven’t been Jabbed at all, never get any bugs?

Struth
March 24, 2022 11:07 pm

Hello, Road-Rager.

Come to disappoint me with your wasting of my welfare contributions on tip-and-run anklebiting dressed up as ‘muh expoxxing of cHoO ChOo NaZi’S deny-lism’ again?
Did anyone else hear an echo? Sounded like a whiny old furniture shop truck driver delivering a load of why am I stuck in in this couch coz my arse is too big for my king gees. No? Must be just me.
@ GreyRanga-

Nah, he’s on the pot.
So you turned up anyway.

Is there anything you do that isn’t for an audience, Struth?
Poor Struth.

Threw a tantrum and ran away because the blog owner once lost patience at his poo-flinging antics, and has never recovered from the trauma.

What a hero, Cats…

I actually post this again for the others to see what happens to denialists when their world is threatened with the truth.
This is some infantile stuff.
You can see it.
It’s sad, but it’s hard for me to give a shit nowadays.

But how many boosters are you going to take?
After all, while these fruit loops do all they can to treat it as nothing (as they must), it is in fact, the most important decision in your life.
And the lives of others.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 24, 2022 11:13 pm

mole at 10:50.
Is nice.
Very nice.
But not same Sancho.

John H.
John H.
March 24, 2022 11:14 pm

Rex there is a lipophilic form of C

Tissue demand for vitamin C is better satisfied when it is supplied in its lipophilic rather than in its hydrophilic form [136].

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
March 24, 2022 11:29 pm

There is no “shock” if you were paying attention.
Not screaming like children with your fingers in your ears.

Struth, you made your point long, long ago. Repeating it ad nauseam is tedious and won’t make converts.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
March 24, 2022 11:35 pm

Pharmaceuticals giant Moderna is set to build the southern hemisphere’s first mRNA vaccine manufacturing facility in Melbourne following a $2-billion, 10-year deal with the Australian and Victorian governments. The facility is expected to manufacture 100 million doses annually

Is that the sound of jab purchase guarantees jingling in the breeze?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 24, 2022 11:41 pm

Struth, you made your point long, long ago. Repeating it ad nauseam is tedious and won’t make converts.

Struth, like all good zealots Dr BG, needs a Devil to stone.

So here I am. 🙂

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 24, 2022 11:42 pm

Is that the sound of jab purchase guarantees jingling in the breeze?

More like the creaking of State.Gov money-churn Stable Doors creaking in the breeze. Long after the COVID horse bolted…

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 24, 2022 11:45 pm

World War 3 fears as Russia warns of ‘universal nuclear war’ if West defends Ukraine

Russian state TV has issued a chilling nuclear threat to the west if NATO puts peacekeepers into Ukraine, saying World War Three might be around the corner.

Moscow’s tightly-controlled state TV went into propaganda overdrive, warning alliance leaders meeting in Brussels today against deploying any troops into Ukraine, even if they were there to maintain peace.

Having unknown Russian colonels issuing threats on Russian breakfast TV is probably great for the domestic strongman image, bites into Western political uncertainty, and is somewhat deniable by the bloke at the top.

But this shite is also playing directly into the politics of defence spending in Europe and elsewhere.

In addition to tanking the prospects of the Russian energy export industry, it’s looking like the Poot’s Big Adventure has shot a series of long-term holes in Russian interests, irrespective of the military outcome in Ukraine.

• Bigger and better militaries for the NATO border countries;
• Nuclear disarmament as a Western political driver sidelined;
• Pressure to consider independent nuclear deterrence increased;
• Almost unlimited US spending on missile and space defence assured.

Possibly the world was a safer place imagining the Russian military would perform like 1944/45.

srr
srr
March 24, 2022 11:47 pm

You are such a vile fool Knuckle Dragger-

Knuckle Dragger says:
March 24, 2022 at 7:26 pm
[…]
Plenty of anti-Micks (looking at you, rrsrsrs) went long and loud at Pell saying ‘that’s just what he would do because bad’.
[…]

Either admit you make shit up to keep on the good side of the bullshitting bullies or you just take the bullshitting word of the bullshitting bullies, because that was just a boring old rehash of the bullshitting bullies proven bullshit.

Now, you have claimed that you recently went home for a funeral, to what is also Pell’s home town.

If that’s true you should also know what sort of trouble you can get yourself into by having a good word to say for Pell, let alone defending him, face to face, with the very many hatefully deranged there.

Being a Cross wearing Catholic, on those occasions I have to visit that town, it’s rare that I don’t cop abuse from one or more of the largely VicPol & ABC emboldened swarms of Pell haters, for being on his side, from the get go.

Of course if you really cared about anyone but your own quivering skin, you’d use your past position to remind Pell haters how terribly victims were let down & abused by the Police, Govt Ministers & Reps & other non-religious authorities they went to for help, and ask them why they don’t actually go after those with the power & authority to have stopped the abusers but rather, also abused.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 24, 2022 11:53 pm

Possibly the world was a safer place imagining the Russian military would perform like 1944/45.

Or closer to what it was thought they could do in 1989.

NATO always planned in the full expectation it would get steamrolled by masses of Soviet Armour, with the expectation of inevitably having to use tactical nuclear weapons as the enemy offensives picked up steam and overran all defensive lines in Western Germany, Denmark and further towards the Channel.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 24, 2022 11:54 pm

Pharmaceuticals giant Moderna is set to build the southern hemisphere’s first mRNA vaccine manufacturing facility in Melbourne following a $2-billion, 10-year deal with the Australian and Victorian governments.

English translation, ScoMo and Maximum Leader are giving $ 2 billion of our money to Moderna?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 25, 2022 12:01 am

English translation, ScoMo and Maximum Leader are giving $ 2 billion of our money to Moderna?

Correct translation: ScoMo and Maximum Leader are giving $ 2 billion of our money to Moderna.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
March 25, 2022 12:03 am

Well howabout that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO#/media/File:Location_NATO_2017_blue.svg
The three ex-Soviet Baltic states are members of NATO.
That means there are members of NATO that share a border with Russia: Latvia and Lithuania. Ukraine, if it joined, would not be the first.
So that imminent military alliance, in itself, surely cannot be the reason for Putin’s ~~war~~ Special Operation.

Still struggling with the Kremlinology on this one. Are we back to the “breadbasket of Europe” explanation for why Putin is doing all this? Or possibly it’s just the biolabs?

Gab
Gab
March 25, 2022 12:11 am

”The first reaction to truth is hatred” – Tertullian.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 25, 2022 12:14 am

Are we back to the “breadbasket of Europe” explanation for why Putin is doing all this? Or possibly it’s just the biolabs?

I’m going to continue working on the assumption that Vlad Bae did it because he could. And he figured that just like 2014, nobody was going to be willing or able to stop him…

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2022 12:24 am

Ms Iconic, just a tad earlier:

Now, you have claimed that you recently went home for a funeral, to what is also Pell’s home town.

Umm, no.

My home town and Pell’s home town are vastly, vastly different home towns.

Try again if you like, although I note the insult that I was born in the Rat is not something to be sneezed at.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 25, 2022 12:27 am

“The first reaction to truth is hatred”

That’s nice.

But Struth’s grandstanding display for all you folks tonight was based on my response to a mendacious lie posed by people putting words in the mouth of a now-dead medical researcher, for the sole purpose of stirring up trouble and upsetting folks.

You can dump on me all you like because you’ve decided I’m spoiling somebody’s Narrative of resistance. I understand it’s cathartic. That’s why some of you uptick it. I am pleased to have provided all of you who did some cope to sustain yourselves in these miserable and turbulent times we’re universally stuck in.

But understand that Struth’s lies for effect tonight are based on yet more of exactly the same thing. Just another lie for effect.

And you stooges think you’ll somehow defeat the Left by engaging in their behaviour…

I’ll throw out a spot of folk wisdom in return-

“This too shall pass.”
Ancient Jewish folktale

John H.
John H.
March 25, 2022 12:29 am

Rex Angersays:
March 25, 2022 at 12:14 am
Are we back to the “breadbasket of Europe” explanation for why Putin is doing all this? Or possibly it’s just the biolabs?

I’m going to continue working on the assumption that Vlad Bae did it because he could. And he figured that just like 2014, nobody was going to be willing or able to stop him…

Crimea was too easy, he expected Ukraine to be easy. Even Trump recently commented that there is something different about Putin’s behavior and the way he looks. Others have made similiar remarks. Perhaps there is something to that but suggestion is a powerful thing. I don’t know what Putin hoped to gain out of all this except perhaps control of the Black Sea but there is little strategic value there. Perhaps Putin just felt like doing something military wise to consolidate his position in Russia and as a veiled threat to neighbouring nations lest they decided to become unfriendly towards Russia. The biolabs stuff is rubbish. One of the very first signs of dementia is poor risk assessment and loss of executive functions. Those behaviors are often present long before a formal diagnosis. There you go, I just played long distance neurologist. What a doofus am I.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 25, 2022 12:33 am

Welp John H.,

May I be the first to welcome you to being one of the Devil-columns the Vlad Bae-boosters, Nuffies and assorted angry folk will be hurling rhetorical stones at tomorrow. 🙂

Do you wanna be first or second in the queue?

Arky
March 25, 2022 12:36 am
Gab
Gab
March 25, 2022 12:45 am

Wow. I scored a direct hit.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 25, 2022 12:53 am

A lobbying firm with close ties to Annastacia Palaszczuk and her government donated $35,000 to Queensland Labor around the time it was awarded a lucrative contract without going to tender. The Oz.

Coincidence.
And rare.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
March 25, 2022 1:05 am

Truth-telling commission begins to examine ‘brutal ugliness’ of Australia’s treatment of Aboriginal people
For the first time in Australia’s history, a truth-telling commission has begun investigating the nation’s brutal history since colonisation, to lay bare systematic abuses against Aboriginal people.

All “truth” and no reconciliation?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 25, 2022 1:26 am

Wow. I scored a direct hit.

Enjoy your cope, Gab. 🙂

Everyone needs a Devil to stone, and I fortunately do not charge for the privilege.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 25, 2022 1:43 am

All “truth” and no reconciliation?

I thought we’d already had the ‘reconciliation’ bit?

John H.
John H.
March 25, 2022 1:48 am

Colonel Crispin Berkasays:
March 25, 2022 at 1:05 am
Truth-telling commission begins to examine ‘brutal ugliness’ of Australia’s treatment of Aboriginal people
For the first time in Australia’s history, a truth-telling commission has begun investigating the nation’s brutal history since colonisation, to lay bare systematic abuses against Aboriginal people.

All “truth” and no reconciliation?

There will never be an acceptable reconciliation because that is the end of the show.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 25, 2022 1:48 am

Bloody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7C3FZCkKy8

That’s one less landing ship that might be pointed at Odessa or Ukraine’s Southeastern or Southwestern coasts soon enough. And not easily or quickly replaced, either.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 1:50 am
srr
srr
March 25, 2022 1:54 am

DrBeauGan says:
March 24, 2022 at 9:56 pm

It will be interesting to see how the denialist’s spin Gonzalo Lira’s, “Suicide of the US”, or if they keep doing what’s popular here and ignoring it.

I watched both parts, srr, and enjoyed them. Some valuable ideas in there, thank you. Recommended.

🙂
I also find his voice & delivery clear & easy to listen to, without sudden outbursts waking others in the night when my broken foot* won’t let me sleep or the baby while I’m watching him sleep.

He’s a very pleasant change in news delivery from the too many yelly catastrophists out there.

*3 weeks & the wound’s still bleeding. Everyone says I should sue but I know The Law too well.

srr
srr
March 25, 2022 1:58 am

Delta A says:
March 24, 2022 at 9:56 pm

Was mandatory reporting of child abuse a thing in 1999?

It was in SA.

Wasn’t that long before all the paedophile State School teachers they didn’t bother warning parents about?

srr
srr
March 25, 2022 2:05 am

Bruce of Newcastle says:
March 24, 2022 at 10:01 pm

SRR, put that cat down before it gets upset and shits on you.
They’re not throwing weapons…

An interesting twitter feed is UkrARMY cats & dogs.*
This war is weird.
I haven’t seen a Russian combat pets twitter account yet.

Yeah, it’s pretty filthy the way the ‘Ukrainian’ Govt slaughter & terrorise their own people & children to make propaganda videos the same way the Palestinians do.

*
UkrARMY cats & dogs Retweeted
Daria Kaleniuk @dkaleniuk
·10 Mar
If you don’t close the sky I will die.
A lullaby from Ukrainian children for NATO, especially UK & USA. #ProtectU?Sky @POTUS @BorisJohnson. Video: Banda
https://twitter.com/dkaleniuk/status/1501650207427207171?cxt=HHwWhoC56Yq699YpAAAA

srr
srr
March 25, 2022 2:14 am

Well we know you aren’t illiterate –
_____________________________
“Sancho Panzer says:
March 24, 2022 at 10:09 pm

‘It was because I reminded people of what G.K. Chesterton said about Russia being destined to save the West from secularism, again, and that I thanked God that Russians didn’t let generations of brutal totalitarianism kill their faith in God.

Anyone who thinks Vlad the Invader is the all-new Defender of the Faith and Saviour of the Christian Tradition has got their head up their arse.
Now which one of you morons said that?”
________________________________

– because you’re way too in awe of your mighty word play skills, so we must simply accept that you are a stone cold arrogant bullshitting bully who has absolutely no respect for the truth or your audience whom you expect to simply shut up & take your shit.

Oh but thanks for admitting you are in fact, “the moron”.

srr
srr
March 25, 2022 2:29 am

All Grown Up – Discernable finds a new home!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pck7VWJt05A

Premiered Mar 22, 2022
Discernable
33K subscribers

This is where we are going, why we are going, and how we are going. Discernable is all grown up now, and moving out of the parent’s basement (social media). Sure, we’ll visit from time to time, but we won’t live here anymore.

Especially Youtube – there is no incentive to post our video content here, especially when it keeps getting us flagged or banned. We are so tiny an organisation we can’t keep devoting resources to creating short little videos so you will see very little here on the tube. Just community posts (images) letting you know what’s going on, or the occasional video update.

UPDATE ON PLATFORMS
This video is a week late to air on Youtube due to our ban, and since then we have experienced ongoing censorship as documented on our other social channels. Rumble has proved to be an impossible option with horrific upload speeds meaning it would take more than 100 days just to convert our existing catalogue, let alone make new content.

Our website is currently working with a temporary lifeboat host and over the next 2 weeks we will migrate to a permanent and safe video host but the place to find us will always be:

OUR NEW HOME
https://discernable.io

SEGMENTS already made will air over the next few weeks and then no more
will be created.

SOCIALS will serve as a bulletin board only to notify you of our new guest interviews and news shows.

srr
srr
March 25, 2022 2:43 am

LIVE in 17 minutes –

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msS7akeIUeM

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bespoke
bespoke
March 25, 2022 2:44 am

rosiesays:
March 24, 2022 at 10:18 pm
Hi I’m Donald Trump. You might remember me from 2016 when I was the all new Defender of the Faith etc etc

It was cringe worthy and what was worce was so few called it out.

bespoke
bespoke
March 25, 2022 2:56 am

And yes I now it was satirical I was inferring to the ones that actually did think he was sent by god to save the world.

srr
srr
March 25, 2022 2:56 am

European MP Calls Justin Trudeau a Dictator During Public Speech in Front of the Canadian Prime Minister
March 23, 2022 | Sundance | 239 Comments

This is just epic and well deserved. EU Parliament Member Mislav Kolakusic delivered a humiliating speech directly to Justin Trudeau as the Canadian Prime Minister visited the EU members. [h/t to CounterSignal for transcript] This is quite likely the first time Trudeau has ever been publicly called out in such a grand fashion.

MP Mislav Kolakusic lived in Croatia under soviet rule. Kolakusic saw the recent behavior of Trudeau as familiar to him from former soviet dictators. He took the opportunity of Trudeau appearing in the European Parliament to eviscerate him publicly. {Direct Rumble Link} WATCH:
https://rumble.com/vyaksl-mep-from-croatia-calls-trudeau-a-dictator.html

[Transcript] – “Freedom, the right to choose, the right to life, the right to health, the right to work for many of us are fundamental human rights for which millions of citizens of Europe and the world have laid down their lives,” Kolakusic began.

“…. Canada, once a symbol of the modern world, has become a symbol of civil rights violations under your quasi-liberal boot in recent months. We watched how you trample women with horses, how you block the bank accounts of single parents so that they can’t even pay their children’s education and medicine, that they can’t pay utilities, mortgages for their homes.”

“To you,” he continues, speaking to Trudeau, “these may be liberal methods; for many citizens of the world, it is a dictatorship of the worst kind. Rest assured that the citizens of the world, united, can stop any regime that wants to destroy the freedom of citizens, either by bombs or harmful pharmaceutical products.”
(more…)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/03/23/european-mp-calls-justin-trudeau-a-dictator-during-public-speech-in-front-of-the-canadian-prime-minister/

srr
srr
March 25, 2022 2:58 am

TommyRobinson1
@TommyRobinson1
·
2h
Whilst the UK government sanctions Russia and tells UK residents to take Ukrainians into their homes.

UK Chancellor Rishi Sunak’s wife owns £500 million worth of shares in her fathers company Infosys, which operates out of Moscow.

Couldn’t make it up, these people are the real criminals.

video – https://gettr.com/post/p11n0mh687d

pete of perth
pete of perth
March 25, 2022 3:29 am

Date night .. more like https://youtu.be/ZD0R-3etWuQ

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2022 3:29 am

Man, the retarded cat woman’s in full swing tonight.

Highlights:

What sort of a relationship?
The sort where when he wouldn’t take no for an answer, went too hard, slammed her against the wall

Slammed against the wall, like your ‘assailant’ was by ball lightning?

And in an encore:

sudden outbursts waking others in the night when my broken foot* won’t let me sleep or the baby while I’m watching him sleep.

[…]

*3 weeks & the wound’s still bleeding.

There is no doubt in my mind you have sudden outbursts in the middle of the night.

And the wound is still bleeding. From your broken foot. Uh huh. I would have thought they’d have sorted out a compound fracture by now.

Everyone says I should sue

Off you go then.

but I know The Law too well.

I very much doubt that.

Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 3:59 am

Flip!

Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:00 am

Flip again!

Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
March 25, 2022 4:14 am
rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 4:31 am

Someone is going to sue a rock after a gardening accident?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2022 4:53 am

Nazi rocks.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 25, 2022 5:11 am

Why was Hastie called in the B R-S case?
He didn’t say anything he saw B R-S do.
He just commented on gossip.
If this is what defamation cases will allow from now on, it’s open slather.

Crossie
Crossie
March 25, 2022 5:49 am

feelthebern says:
March 25, 2022 at 5:11 am
Why was Hastie called in the B R-S case?
He didn’t say anything he saw B R-S do.
He just commented on gossip.
If this is what defamation cases will allow from now on, it’s open slather.

I thought better of Hastie but obviously he also feels the lack of a VC. He might have been PM material though this has tarnished him.

Gabor
Gabor
March 25, 2022 5:54 am

God and the Holy Spirit,
Who is the boss?
Not an insult to religious people, but I asked this a dozen times and got no satisfactory answer.
Jesus, I understand, but what about the H Spirit, why does it exist if there is a God and who came first?

Not a joke, I’m fair dinkum, last night it came up in a weird setting, don’t ask!

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 6:06 am

It’s a mystery.

2dogs
March 25, 2022 6:17 am
Gabor
Gabor
March 25, 2022 6:27 am

2dogs says:
March 25, 2022 at 6:17 am

George Alexopoulos.

You might find it cute, but I don’t get it.
Too much of a fuddy duddy I am, I suppose?

2dogs
March 25, 2022 6:40 am

You might find it cute, but I don’t get it.
Too much of a fuddy duddy I am, I suppose?

You might like to research the guy in the final panel.

Gabor
Gabor
March 25, 2022 6:46 am

2dogs says:

March 25, 2022 at 6:40 am

You might find it cute, but I don’t get it.
Too much of a fuddy duddy I am, I suppose?

You might like to research the guy in the final panel.

Sorry, how do I do that?

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 25, 2022 6:48 am

The Solomon Islands is a sovereign nation.
They have elections.
They can choose whoever they want to do deals with.
All those against China’s deal with the Solomons, by extension is a Putin apologist.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 25, 2022 6:51 am

God and the Holy Spirit,
Who is the boss?

Gabor, the Nicene Creed is as good an answer as there is I think. Much hammering, sawing and angst went into the writing of it.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.

English versions of the Nicene Creed (wiki)

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 6:53 am

Gaborone
If you scroll down from the cartoon there is a linked YouTube that explains

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 6:56 am

There is no ‘boss’ in the trinity.
here

2dogs
March 25, 2022 6:57 am

Sorry, how do I do that?

Comments under the cartoon might be useful. Consider the comment from @HermemesPepe.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 25, 2022 6:58 am

George Alexopoulos.

You might find it cute, but I don’t get it.

Gabor – It’s Florida’s law about not teaching qwerty stuff to 9 year old kids has the Left in an uproar at the moment. They’re lying about being homophobic, calling it the Don’t Say Gay law.

Disney+ ‘Moon Knight’ Star Oscar Isaac Chants ‘Gay Gay Gay Gay Gay Gayyyyyy’ over Florida’s Don’t Groom Kids Bill (23 Mar)

calli
calli
March 25, 2022 7:01 am

“The first reaction to truth is hatred.” – Tertullian

Sometimes, Gab. And sometimes it’s joy and acceptance.

I’ve watched both reactions play out many…many times.

Gabor
Gabor
March 25, 2022 7:06 am

Thanks to all, need an other cuppa.

Anchor What
Anchor What
March 25, 2022 7:13 am

“It’s going worse than Chechnya”.
After the Beslan school hostage taking and the Moscow theatre siege, many of us didn’t care about the fate of Chechnya.
Ukraine is different.

calli
calli
March 25, 2022 7:14 am

Thanks for using the Nicene Creed as a reference, Bruce. Those guys thrashed it out long ago. Some…literally. 😀

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 7:17 am

On the other hand wasn’t Tertillian talking religious truth?
I cannot see how this could apply to whether or not a particular person made a comment or not or whether he is right or not, on a secular issue.
difference between love and hate is truth

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
March 25, 2022 7:17 am

Morn all, not trying to sound ungrateful but who is advising Morrison. While I was in the nether regions without mobile service I note he was up here spreading largess around.

In Leichardt more money for Tourism the Qld & Fed Government killed with their COVID restrictions. Was in Cairns recently, the place is a sea of boarded up shops in the CBD. Damage is already done and it will take years to recover.

Money for Hells Gate Dam on the upper Burdekin for yet another feasibility study (About the third in 20 years) for already fattened consultancies and the worst option. Katter is dead right on this one, not only is the height too low halving the initially proposed capacity, from what I hear it will have the same problems as the Traverston Crossing dam being wide and shallow in an area with insane evaporation rates. My predictions, can kicked down the road yet again and the dam will never be built especially when the ALP gain power.

Then this thought from the nether regions turning the Carnarvon hwy/Developmental rd and Gregory Developmental rd into and alternate freight route, the expense to upgrade this road would be huge and the slovenly way infrastructure is completed in Aus will be a generation in the making (Oddly enough the evil Adani mine has already put more infrastructure in a remote area north of Clermont than imaginable in a little over 2-3 years).

One would think that maybe Herbert is a worry for them and they think they have a chance at Kennedy. We already know the odious Entsch is in trouble in Leichardt. Apparently Fat Bastard has been in the north stirring the pot about port access and reopening Yabulu to pump his tyres. Going to be interesting when the starters gun is finally fired.

calli
calli
March 25, 2022 7:25 am

On the other hand wasn’t Tertillian talking religious truth?

That’s where my thinking was going. And a little episode at the garden gate when someone said to me, “I love you!”.

That was the truth too. 😀

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 7:30 am

You have proof of that truth.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 7:31 am
calli
calli
March 25, 2022 7:47 am

Virtue signalling idiots.

Can the masks (for them) be permanent?

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 7:53 am

I didn’t care so much about the facial decorations.
It’s ‘date night’ that induces a gag reaction.

Kneel
Kneel
March 25, 2022 8:09 am

“Incidentally that ADE sure is taking its sweet time.”

Indeed.
“Original Antigenic Sin” seems more likely given Stanford’s recent publication of negative efficiacy of the mRNA vaxes against Omicron and it’s sub-variants.
Given that Omicron and it’s sub-variants appear to be dominant, it would seem unwise at this time to get the original vax or a booster of same – mRNA or otherwise. Hopefully, most peoples immune systems will “forget” the immunity they “learnt” from the vax after about 6-24 months (as per cold and ‘flu virus’ – there’s only a handful of ‘flu virus’ and they “take turns” being the dominant strain) and things will simply go back to “normal”. That’s also assuming that the published “reverse transciptase” issue (actual changes to DNA of the subject from mRNA vax, so that it continues to produce the spike protien) is not wide-spread in the general population.
But we won’t know until the long term, high participant trials comes to a conclusion.

sfw
sfw
March 25, 2022 8:10 am

Calli, the council of Nicaea is the main reason I can’t accept that the Bible has any more truth in it than any other religious text. A bunch of blokes sitting around centuries after the events and deciding what to leave in and what to leave out, it just doesn’t work for me. I know some claim that they were ‘divinely inspired’ sure they were.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 25, 2022 8:12 am

My youngest daughter got a huge compliment at the childcare centre where she’s doing a workplace apprenticeship.
The kids were jostling to sit next to her and she said they all couldn’t do that at once.
A little girl whispered “It’s because we all love you.”

Roger
Roger
March 25, 2022 8:13 am

A bunch of blokes sitting around centuries after the events and deciding what to leave in and what to leave out, it just doesn’t work for me.

That’s not what the Council did.

I know some claim that they were ‘divinely inspired’ sure they were.

Councils are not divinely inspired.

sfw
sfw
March 25, 2022 8:14 am

Roger, then what did they do?

Roger
Roger
March 25, 2022 8:19 am

Madeleine Albright receiving generous tributes.

They all seem to focus on her sex, not her achievements, perhaps because they were mostly disastrous, including sanctions against the people of Iraq & the expansion of NATO eastwards.

Not notable among the tributes is that of Penny Wong. Evidently she’s forgotten Albright consigning women who don’t help other women to hell.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 8:21 am

‘Negative efficacy ‘?
I just want reduce the risk of getting covid pneumonia and needing half a dozen doctors giving me about every drug in their cabinet with an ambulance on standby at my front door.
Every vaxxed person I know that has covid has had mild covid.

Anchor What
Anchor What
March 25, 2022 8:23 am

Islamic fundamentalists regard the Christian trinity as totally wrong. But the meteorite has center stage in Mecca and the moon goddess of old is still very influential – she governs the start of Ramadan, for instance. That’s ok.

duncanm
duncanm
March 25, 2022 8:25 am

A succinct summary of Hillary’s Russia-gate in the speccie for those who haven’t kept up with the various players

https://spectator.com.au/2022/03/the-real-russiagate-smoking-gun/

Roger
Roger
March 25, 2022 8:27 am

Roger, then what did they do?

The 1st Council of Nicaea defined the nature of Christ as divine and human, based on the teaching of scripture and in opposition to the teaching of Arius that the Son was a created being. Hence the creed’s “God from God, light from light, true God from true God, begotten not made…”. It was Arius, not the fathers at Nicaea, who was trying to deny and delete parts of scripture.

Winston Smith
March 25, 2022 8:30 am

rickw:

Laptop real. Diary real.
You think they’ve decided to get rid of that rotting sack of shit in the WH?

You’d hope so. Unfortunately the damage done will take decades to repair.
Unless of course, the punishments meted out involve the loss of everything gained through illegal means.
It would be reassuring to see the Bidens on the street in a tent – probably the only ones who deserve to be there.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 8:30 am

I remember watching a us reality show where people traded places, in this episode it was Christian fundy and a Muslim.
Fundy was having a fireside chat with an iman who kindly explained that God couldn’t appear in the form of a man.
Good to know God has his limits.
Islam is probably just an heretical cult that just had to have a few points of difference with Christianity.
The Reyes Católicos certainly thought so, as reference to the defeat of those heretics is inscribed on their tomb.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 8:30 am

rosiesays:
March 25, 2022 at 8:21 am
‘Negative efficacy ‘?

Yes it’s possible if the correct statistical analysis has been applied.

Like how lefties don’t understand good economic policies can lead to labour shortages.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
March 25, 2022 8:32 am

Another crushing critique of our weathervane PM. Very sadly for Australian voters, it will be one or the other of the Uniparty that governs in the Reps. One can only hope for the LDP, PHON et al to have the balance of power in the Senate.

https://spectator.com.au/2022/03/why-voters-are-putting-the-libs-out-to-pasture/

This correspondent has been one of several in these pages to prosecute the case against Scott Morrison. In my view, Morrison has been one of Australia’s worst prime ministers, and that is not just because he is a windsock devoid of any principle whose authoritarian bent runs totally counter to his professed Christianity and to the traditions of the Liberal party. Remember ‘free speech doesn’t create a single job’, ‘Daniel Andrews has my total support’, and his treatment of Cardinal George Pell, to name but three examples. Scott Morrison will join the ranks of Billy McMahon and Malcolm Fraser as a poor prime minister also because he has led a government that has not implemented one single policy a true centre-right party can be proud of. Not one.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 8:33 am

An alien/person raised by wolves might read this thread and understand the Trinity is an all-father, a meteorite and a Moon goddess.

Actually, that’s sort of right in an allegorical sense.

Roger
Roger
March 25, 2022 8:35 am

Paywalled in the WSJ, but I managed to copy this:

‘Deaths From Heart Disease and Stroke Rose Sharply During Pandemic
Mortality trends worsened more for Black and Hispanic people in the U.S.

Mortality rates from heart disease and stroke rose 4.3% and 6.4% respectively in 2020, part of a larger wave of excess deaths in the first year of the pandemic, according to a study published Wednesday in the journal JAMA Network Open. Overall, the U.S. mortality rate jumped 15.9% that year, according to the analysis, which was based on data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.’

I suppose it might have been much worse if the authorities and the “experts” advising them weren’t so focused on public health, with particular concern for the vulnerable. [sarc]

custard
custard
March 25, 2022 8:35 am
rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 8:36 am

I’m confused dot.
Doesn’t that mean that people who are vaxxed should generally have more severe symptoms of covid than the unvaxxed?

srr
srr
March 25, 2022 8:38 am

“Bourne1879 says:
March 24, 2022 at 10:28 pm

Any political leader or medical authority praising high Vax rates is really boasting about something acheived by threats to jobs and loss of freedoms.

Let the people make their own medical decisions and the percentage vaxxed would not be nowhere near as high as they are.

You know what statistic they never tell us ? How many have lost their jobs or retired early due to not wishing to comply. Likewise you rarely see deaths mentioned in conjunction with their average age (ie. 80 something) or the 2 + comorbidities.

I was recently shown a text message that did the rounds amongst Qld medical workers. It related to the number of teachers and teachers aides who had responded to the January Union survey about taking the Vax. It said the number was 20,000. No way of knowing if true and many may have subsequently given in. I know a relief teacher who has greatly benefitted from the teacher shortage in some schools. Naturally cost to Government for a relief is more than a regular teacher.

For the Qld Government health workers a figure of 4,000 has been mentioned. Some took early retirement and others being placed in non frontline positions like Telehealth.

Speedbox said “As pointed out endlessly on the Cat, governments should not equate percentage jabbed as equalling support””
___________________________________

It’s three weeks today that I broke my foot.
It was crushed and punctured by a large garden rock.
It’s still bleeding, still swollen from infection.

This should not have been the case but for the hospital staff shortage & overwork when it happened.

It was never even cleaned until I got to see my doctor 4 days later.

It should have been opened up, cleaned out & stitched up when it happened.

A vein was punctured and when the bandage the ambo* applied was removed hour later in the hospital, the blood again shot many inches into the air, all over the hospital.

A nurse bandaged it again & more hours later still, when a doctor first saw it, long bandaged, raised & not moved, it has stopped shooting blood but was still weepy. The doctor thought that fine.

The next day when I finally saw the doctor who’d seen the CT scan, I’d been left alone in room with no buzzer, no blanket, no food, no water, no pain killer for 9 hours, because in the whole of the Emergency treatment wing of a major hospital, there was only one nurse on duty.

I was sent home without antibiotics and it took me giving them 3 reminders to get the tetanus shot that such an injury called for.

That’s not all or the worst of.
There’s many more reason people say I should sue, but what struck me was that they couldn’t raise enough staff for a major regional hospital on a Friday when serious work, driving and ‘partying’ injuries are usually very high.

* The Ambos were great. Despite being run off their feet, their care & diagnostics was top notch.
It was only after being handed over to the hospital’s care that went to shit.

Winston Smith
March 25, 2022 8:41 am

Colonel Crispin Berka:

Is that the sound of jab purchase guarantees jingling in the breeze?

…and the sounds of jobs for the boys on the Board?

Roger
Roger
March 25, 2022 8:44 am

Islam is probably just an heretical cult that just had to have a few points of difference with Christianity.

Mohammed was a religious dilettante who chose his beliefs like someone attending a smorgasbord.

John of Damascus, who mad ea study of Islam, maintained that an Arian monk was one of his teachers. Muslims are not, strictly speaking, Arians, but one can detect Arian influence in how they regard Jesus or Isa as the call him, which is entirely contradictory, in that they regard him as a prophet while denying everything significant that he claimed about himself!

calli
calli
March 25, 2022 8:47 am

Thanks Roger.

I’ve been off cleaning loos. Yay!

Yes, the Council of Nicea was a lively one, nipping heresy (extra stuff) in the bud.

I’m reading James this morning – the one Luther wanted out. Glad he repented and, for him, it went back “in”. Nothing like a bit of practical teaching about loving each other regardless of differences.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 8:48 am

It could be confounded by any number of variables. Who are they vaccinating and how vulnerable were they? As for adverse effects, remember the poor bugger mole was helping out? It’s virtually mandated adverse events. Then you have the open corruption and incentives under the CARES Act in the US.

I will be very blunt. Most people in medical science are not stellar at statistical analysis. I also don’t trust most people willing to give an opinion on the matter.

calli
calli
March 25, 2022 8:48 am

Mohammed was a religious dilettante who chose his beliefs like someone attending a smorgasbord.

Swedenborgians. Same stuff, with extra smorgasbord.

Angus Black
Angus Black
March 25, 2022 8:49 am

The Age published an interesting article today – or, at least, an article with some interesting data.

1 in 7 working Australians now works in Health Services. This raises the question:

Given the universally accepted parlours state of health services in Australia, what on earth are all these people doing? What is this vast public expenditure being diverted to?

The second interesting datum is that more Australians are now employed in “public administration” than in the manufacturing sector … and when they talk of public administration they are excluding the education and the health sectors. In essence there are more people employed to stop people doing what they want to do, or sticking their hands into peoples pockets to steal their earnings, than are involved in actually making things.

And people wonder why the country is in a death spiral.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2022 8:50 am

rosiesays:

March 25, 2022 at 4:31 am

Someone is going to sue a rock after a gardening accident?

….

Knuckle Draggersays:

March 25, 2022 at 4:53 am

Nazi rocks.

Bullshitting bullying rocks I believe.
Looks like an ortho surgeon is about to cop a dose of ball lightning.

Angus Black
Angus Black
March 25, 2022 8:50 am

And that should say “parlous”. Damn proactive spell checking.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 25, 2022 8:52 am

Every vaxxed person I know that has covid has had mild covid.

That should just read ‘every vaxxed person I know has had covid…’

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 25, 2022 8:54 am

Not everyone is on the Team Ukie Train.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 8:54 am

There’s many more reason people say I should sue

Reasonable skill and care for a professional. Can you prove that wasn’t the level of care provided to you? Can you prove the hospital – as harsh as it seems – did not have higher priorities?

You cannot sue (in my opinion) if you think the hospital was understaffed. What duty of care is owed by the Health Service to you to have this staff level. Can you prove this is causally linked to your predicament?

Get legal advice but don’t assume you have actually have a case at all.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 8:55 am

Add in some very convenient revelations that give the guy in charge extraordinary license for promiscuity and presto the perfect ‘religion’.
I remember that Canadian red head who converted to Islam was a enthusiastic proletizer for them, then reverted back to Christianity was extremely good at pulling apart M’s convenient revelations on who could have sex with whom.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 8:56 am

1 in 7 working Australians now works in Health Services. This raises the question:

That’s why the uptake on vaccines is so high.

Resist the boosters if you can. Don’t lose your home over this, but make life difficult for jobsworths and brainless aurhoritarians. Embrace administrative violence.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2022 8:57 am

Dotsays:

March 25, 2022 at 8:33 am

An alien/person raised by wolves might read this thread and understand the Trinity is an all-father, a meteorite and a Moon goddess.

And a lightning ball.
Don’t forget the lightning ball.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 25, 2022 8:59 am

the council of Nicaea is the main reason I can’t accept that the Bible has any more truth in it than any other religious text. A bunch of blokes sitting around centuries after the events and deciding what to leave in and what to leave out, it just doesn’t work for me.

Sfw – the Westminster Confession of 1646 and the 1689 Confession go into more detail, and have the source bible passages cited, which means it’s easier to go to the text of the Bible to check. They aren’t comprehensive but are a reasonable summary. See ch 2 para 3 in both documents.

I would say that the Nicene Creed wasn’t so much about what’s in/what’s out as an attempt to reduce misunderstanding in a time when the Bible had to be laboriously hand-copied and wasn’t very accessible to the people. Big fights were going on over the Arian controversy. The Creed is short enough to be fairly easily memorized, or copied out. I’m sure other Christians will disagree with me, and it’s been a while since I read anything about it, but disagreement is good!

custard
custard
March 25, 2022 9:00 am

Good thread if you want to read Trumps allegations

https://twitter.com/merissahansen17/status/1507099852756369416?s=21

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 9:00 am

Are you making formal diagnosis on people you have never met?
Or are you saying everyone in the world has now had covid?

JC
JC
March 25, 2022 9:01 am

1 in 7 working Australians now works in Health Services.

Jeez Louise.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 25, 2022 9:02 am

1 in 7 working Australians now works in Health Services.

It’s a big beast.
It’s always hungry.
It can sniff taxpayer dollars from two towns over.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 9:02 am

Rosie

It’s a fair assumption that everyone not living in solitude has been in contact with Covid 19.

As I keep saying, it is possible it was globally endemic as far back as March 2019.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 25, 2022 9:04 am

1 in 7 working Australians now works in Health Services.

If that is true, its a disaster and goes a long way towards explaining the fall of Australia.

‘Service’ jobs of any kind are parasitic jobs because they don’t produce any of the things which are essential for life (food, shelter, transport, energy etc). As such, all such jobs can only exist if someone else is making those things for the person doing the service job. In other words, service jobs consume wealth, they dont make it. Consider that every time a politician announces another 200 nurses/paramedics/teachers have been recruited.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 9:04 am

All very well Dot.
For the last two years several people have been adamant that Ruby Princess proves that most people don’t get covid.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 25, 2022 9:06 am

Or are you saying everyone in the world has now had covid?

Its a safe assumption that most have already had an infective dose exposure.

Kneel
Kneel
March 25, 2022 9:06 am

“I just want reduce the risk of getting covid pneumonia and needing half a dozen doctors giving me about every drug in their cabinet with an ambulance on standby at my front door.”

NOTE: I am NOT a doctor and this is NOT medical advise!

Sure, that is quite reasonable. If you get a “cold” (even a bad one) that is OK, but needing to go to hospital etc is clearly much worse, and that is what most people want to avoid.

I hope you are aware that the alpha and delta variants were considerably more lower respiratory tract infections (lung issues, coughing etc) where the omicron and similar variants that are becoming (if not already) dominant appear to be primarily upper tract infections (runny nose, sneezing etc)

This https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/new-study-shows-vaccines-must-be?s=r has several links to studies in different countries re: higher risk of getting COVID variants after vax. There are other places you can find similar information.

This is hardly definitive, but it is certainly concerning.

This is also why it has been “standard practice” – pre-COVID at least – to avoid wide-spread vaccination during a pandemic. Unless the pathogen is “stable” in terms of antigen specificity (and COVID is clearly not), you are essentially “selecting” for variants that can evade any vax protection.

Worse, “original antigenic sin” means that your body will tend to produce antibodies to the original variant, which are less efficacious against the newer variants, so it will take longer to recover, and you may get more serious disease than you would if your immune system was “naive”. Fortunately, with new variants being more upper tract, that tends to mean a worse/longer “cold” rather than a hospital visit.

Better, in my view, to actually get a mild case of omicron, as the immunity you gain from that is not specific to a single protein (the “spike protein” of the alpha variant) like the vax gives, but also to 2 other proteins of the virus that are much less variable across variants. Thus you are much more likely to be protected from being reinfected with a different variant.

But – and I can’t stress this enough – talk to your doctor. You and they know much better than some GovCo weenie what your medical history and individual risk factors are, so the resulting advice should be better “tailored” to your individual circumstances and more likely to be effective for you. If the above info I posted is concerning to you, then you should ask your doctor about that too. If the answers you get do not satisfy you, there is nothing wrong with getting a second opinion. To my mind, simple dismissal as “conspiracy theory” where there are published papers in such august journals as the BMJ and NEJM warrant a second opinion, but that is of course up to you.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 9:08 am

Maybe they couldn’t get COVID in 2020 because they already had it in 2019?

The Ruby Princess is a good “natural” experiment. You cannot discount it with rhetoric.

Natural immunity is at least 30% of the population. It might be a fair assumption that older people who are not invalid have *experienced* immune systems.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 25, 2022 9:08 am

For the last two years several people have been adamant that Ruby Princess proves that most people don’t get covid.

The Diamond Princess had less that 20% become ‘PCR positive’ after 5 weeks of exposure.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2022 9:08 am

What if the rock wasn’t just an ordinary garden rock.
What if it was a Divine Rock of Justice.
Like the lightning ball.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 9:08 am

You are right kneel.
I won’t take any notice of what you said.

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 25, 2022 9:09 am

1 in 7 working Australians now works in Health Services.

Anna Blight once trumpeted Qld Health was
the third biggest employer in the country.
Something she quickly dropped when it was pointed out
that wasn’t actually a good thing.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 9:11 am

What if a rock hits someone with feet of clay, iron legs, a bronze torso a silver head & crown of gold?

srr
srr
March 25, 2022 9:11 am

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
March 24, 2022 at 10:31 pm

Struth; It’d be helpful were you to use actual screen names instead of pet nicknames you bestow.
It is near impossible to know who or sometimes what, you’re referencing.

It’s like sitting listening in a pub when you’re an out-of-towner, what the locals are saying may well be interesting but it falls flat when you’ve no idea of the personalities involved.

Interesting that you (someone who’s gone through many names yourself over the years), who’s always being attacked by JC with vile accusation (but under “pet names”), should feel compelled to say that to struth (who you all “pet” name), re: his reply to “rosie”.

The very well known (because she’s always here selling Govt Pro-Jab propaganda), “rosie”, changed her name from “notafan/Notafan” because under her old name she’d become well known for many reason’s she’d rather not, including being one of The Mob who applies insulting “pet” names to others but even worse, the cowardly act of “privately” In Public, bitching at individuals by not using any name at all.

So why do The Mob constantly use “pet” names to attack others?
Those they’re attacking know they are being attacked.
The regulars know who’s being attacked.

Ah, but newbies who drop by (potential New Numbers for The Govt side), only know the rest of the vile bullshit that gets nailed to the bullshit names of The Targeted Individuals.

By the time they do figure out who’s who, they’ve already had their impressions of The Targets tainted with a coordinated, steady stream of the same abusive BS.

Any personal & private good impressions they’ve formed of those posters are simply filed away under, “must have been mistaken“, because such is the Social Pressure of The Mob, even & especially on [Anti] Social Media.

The Govt “gifted” (“poisoned” in German), us with the World Wide Web of Deception for this very task and just as they’ve forced people to get Jabbed to work, they’ve forced people to, ‘get on [in] The Net’, to function in the modern world.

As obvious as that is, it’s still one of the things that draws the most savage attacks when you explain it, because staying under hypnosis/remaining brainwashed, requires that you not be snapped back into the real world while you’re believing the utter bollox the hypnotists are telling you to believe.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 9:11 am

I kind of noticed that the variants seemed to have first appeared before the vaccines were developed or in countries with very low vaccination rates.
I thought it was just normal virus gotta virus.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 9:12 am

Another day of mendacious trolling.
Yeah.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 9:13 am

Please limit the use of quotation marks and parentheses in blog replies.

That is all.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2022 9:14 am

Trialling a new pain-killer by the looks of it.

Roger
Roger
March 25, 2022 9:14 am

I’m reading James this morning – the one Luther wanted out.

Luther was critical of James, calli – incorrectly, imv – but James was included in every edition of the Luther Bible, even though Luther continued to have reservations about its authenticity, as did some of the church fathers, btw.

What he said was it should be “out of this school”, i.e. the students at Wittenberg would be better spending their time on the Gospels and Paul.

It’s the sort of rhetoric Luther was inclined to but should not be taken too literally.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 9:18 am

Targeted Individuals

Until you have been raided without basis for guns, taxes or liquor licensing, (or have been Slug-Gated) we’re going to have to put that in the grey pile.

Kneel
Kneel
March 25, 2022 9:18 am

“You are right kneel.
I won’t take any notice of what you said.”

That’s fine with me Rosie – I am just some random person on the internet, why listen to me?

I hope you do take one bit of my advice though – the bit about talking to your doctor. As long as you do that, I think you are doing the right thing.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 9:18 am

James out?
I though the King James was the original and the best.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 9:19 am

Why should I talk to my doctor?
I’m not sick.

calli
calli
March 25, 2022 9:19 am

‘Service’ jobs of any kind are parasitic jobs because they don’t produce any of the things which are essential for life (food, shelter, transport, energy etc). As such, all such jobs can only exist if someone else is making those things for the person doing the service job.

Doc, would you include building in the productive or parasitic class? Or is it a hybrid?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 25, 2022 9:21 am

ussr.
You mentioned last night you were a “cross wearing Catholic”.
Why was I left with the impression you belonged to some Happy Clapper sect?
Or Unhappy Clapper as the case may be.
Catholics usually don’t believe in magical lightning balls for a start.

calli
calli
March 25, 2022 9:21 am

The Book of James, or if you like, his letter.

Luther called it a book of straw. Sure is. If lit, it runs like fire through tired churches.

calli
calli
March 25, 2022 9:23 am

I reckon I’m the Chuck Norris of enjabbenated.

Covid took one look at me and ran.

I have that effect on people, now viruses.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 9:23 am

Luther called it a book of straw. Sure is. If lit, it runs like fire through tired churches.

So libertarians did not start pointless purity tests and circular firing squads after all.

calli
calli
March 25, 2022 9:24 am

Can I do “scare quotes”, Dot? They’re fun.

If we’re running out, I shall ration carefully.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 9:25 am

I am the John Giotti of COVID.

It just won’t stick!

srr
srr
March 25, 2022 9:25 am

DrBeauGan says:
March 24, 2022 at 11:29 pm

There is no “shock” if you were paying attention.
Not screaming like children with your fingers in your ears.

Struth, you made your point long, long ago. Repeating it ad nauseam is tedious and won’t make converts.

All sorts of people find themselves at the various cats for all sorts of reasons. One search leads to another & bang, they land here.

It’s not about ‘converting the other side’, it’s about letting the individuals who drop by know there is another side.

That is why so many of the regulars exist here merely to keep attacking the character of individuals who’s opinions don’t jell with The Mob’s lines, which, Surprise, Surprise, also ‘just happen’ to jell with The Govts lines.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 9:25 am

“If we’re running out, I shall ration carefully.”

(I don’t know…).

calli
calli
March 25, 2022 9:26 am

Greedy bugger.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 25, 2022 9:27 am

Twitter tells me Italy knocked out in the World Cup qualifiers.
How do you go from winning the Euro’s to crashing out of qualifying for the big one?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 25, 2022 9:27 am

Go Fund Me is issuing refunds of contributions made for the defendant of that shooting near Katherine.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 9:28 am

1. Not enough cocaine.
2. Too much sex with girlfriends instead of team mates.

Franx
Franx
March 25, 2022 9:29 am

The Church Council findings were grounded in reason. That theses same findings were and are considered inspired confirms the capacity for reason.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2022 9:29 am

What if it was a Divine Rock of Justice.

Slammed against a wall. And then sued.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 25, 2022 9:31 am

What if it was a Divine Rock of Justice.

Is that like the Stone of Shame?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Z0iyBNxpk

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2022 9:31 am

Trialling a new pain-killer by the looks of it.

Fentanyl now comes in a new dosage.

The ‘bucket’.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2022 9:33 am

rsrsrsrs the happy-clapping dancer-with-snakes.

Shocked but not surprised.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 9:35 am

srr

Go and see a doctor if you have an ongoing injury and you are unsatisfied with the treatment received from other health professionals.

This will also help any legal claim you have. You cannot give professional opinions as evidence in court.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 25, 2022 9:40 am

Twitter tells me Italy knocked out in the World Cup qualifiers.

I had to go and look up the backgtound:
Italy also failed to qualify for the 2018 World Cup after losing to Sweden in a two-legged playoff. Missing two straight World Cups is an unprecedented low point for the four-time champion, especially just months after winning Euro 2020.

And all this just after the country celebrated their first win for a long time in the Rugby 6 Nations, beating Wales 22-21 with a last minute long range try.

Kneel
Kneel
March 25, 2022 9:40 am

“Why should I talk to my doctor?
I’m not sick.”

If you are considering taking any medication (inc. a vaccine), or even going on a diet, or otherwise changing your lifestyle, then it would in my opinion be wise to consult your doctor before doing so. Any and all of these things can affect your health, and as I said your doctor knows your medical history better than anyone else and is qualified to provide you medical advice.

Since you seemed concerned about COVID…

At the end of the day, it is your body, your life and your choice, so do as you will. I am not trying to change your mind on anything, only trying to provide you with information on what may be pertinent to ask your doctor about – whether you actually ask them about such things is your choice. Some people just want “the answer”, others are more curious and perhaps “cautious” and so ask more questions. Nothing wrong with either approach, and if you fit into the former class then perhaps your doctor already knows this and will respond with his best opinion tailored to both your attitude to such things and your medical history. That is as it should be, and I would not be so bold as to suggest that they are wrong to do so.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 25, 2022 9:43 am

the council of Nicaea is the main reason I can’t accept that the Bible has any more truth in it than any other religious text. A bunch of blokes sitting around centuries after the events and deciding what to leave in and what to leave out, it just doesn’t work for me.

If you believe in Divine guidance at all, why would you baulk at that?
And if you don’t believe in Divine guidance, then what exactly do you mean by a “religious text” containing truth?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 25, 2022 9:44 am

What if it was a Divine Rock of Justice.

The Scone of Stone?

FIERCE BUT FRIENDLY COMPETITION AT THE NORTHUMBERLAND GROUP CWA (Ncl local news, 24 Mar)

Ferocious might be a better word. Up with the Council of Nicaea. The date rolls are formidable, and I rather like the echidna made out of dinner forks.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 9:47 am

Echidna is a pagan heresy. For shame!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 25, 2022 9:48 am

Dot says:

March 25, 2022 at 8:30 am
rosiesays:
March 25, 2022 at 8:21 am
‘Negative efficacy ‘?

Yes it’s possible if the correct statistical analysis has been applied.

On statistics.

It’s looking like the Trusted Blogger ‘negative efficacy’ and AIDS arguments are about to fall in a screaming heap.

The Great Denominator Debate about the UK* population – which gives the estimated number of unvaccinated Poms – is due to be settled shortly, when the 2021 Census results start to be published in May.

The Office of National Survey has released a preliminary result relating to vaccination rates in the working population:

As of 31 December 2021, 64.9% of adults aged 18 to 64 years who were employed had received three coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccinations and 8.8% were unvaccinated.

This is significantly lower than the ~45% (3x jabbed) and ~25%(unjabbed) rates published in the UKHSA Vaccine Surveillance reporting, based on the NIMS population estimate.

If you carry the lower unjabbed population through the calculation of rates per 100,000 for infection, hospitalisation, and death, the apparent lower incidence of Covid infection amongst the unvaccinated vanishes.

As does the ‘evidence’ of negative efficacy.

This is preliminary, obviously, but a harbinger of a festival of statistical revision in six weeks time.

* More accurately, English and Welsh.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 9:48 am

I’m not considering anything.
I’m interested in the many conflicting claims about the vaccines, as are many others.

srr
srr
March 25, 2022 9:49 am

Knuckle Dragger says:
March 25, 2022 at 12:24 am

Ms Iconic, just a tad earlier:

“Now, you have claimed that you recently went home for a funeral, to what is also Pell’s home town.”

Umm, no.

My home town and Pell’s home town are vastly, vastly different home towns.

Try again if you like, although I note the insult that I was born in the Rat is not something to be sneezed at.
_______________

Fine, deny what you posted.

It’s easy for the mobsters who’ll always have fellow mobsters to back up their BS, because the mob always out numbers the individual, as all good Commie/Socialist/Labor/Union/Cowards know.

Nice of you to also spit on Pell’s home town and all who grew there (like Pell), but then someone who had to run away from it to the other side of the country wouldn’t have warm feeling for the place, would they.

Oh but don’t worry, unlike others, I don’t dox people, nor do I try to prod them into doxing themselves, so if you now want to be from somewhere else, fine, be from where ever you didn’t leave angry enemies.

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 25, 2022 9:52 am

Looks like Justine Castreau isn’t everyone’s dreamboat anymore.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 25, 2022 9:53 am

rsrsrsrs the happy-clapping dancer-with-snakes.

Ah! So she’s been typing in tongues!

Explains why her comments look like fevered syncretism of copy/pastes from the remotest and strangest reaches of the internet

Crossie
Crossie
March 25, 2022 9:54 am

Putin is ultimately responsible for the Ukrainian war but Biden gave him the go-ahead with the reference to “a minor incursion”. Just as April Glaspie, US ambassador to Iraq, told Saddam that “we don’t have an opinion on Arab-Arab conflicts”. Saddam saw it as permission to go into Kuwait. God save us from diplomats and self-proclaimed smart people.

Kneel
Kneel
March 25, 2022 9:55 am

“I’m not considering anything.
I’m interested in the many conflicting claims about the vaccines, as are many others.”

I’m interested in such claims as well – hence my postings on the matter.
Perhaps we are at crossed purposes – not uncommon in such fora as this.
If so, then I apologise if I have come across in such a manner as I did not intend to do, or if I have mis-understood your intent and posts. My only excuse is that text based communications allow for such things to happen much more easily than an audio or face-to-face discussion.
In truth, just – like you apparently – wanting to know more and trying to help others by pointing out what may be less well known.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 25, 2022 9:58 am

rosiesays:
March 25, 2022 at 7:34 am
for those that might have missed this delightful photo amongst the many tins of spiced pork

“Sorry officer, I can’t do a breathalyser test because I’m wearing this mask.”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 25, 2022 9:59 am

rsrsrrsr. You Radio Rental peanut-brained Elmo, but without his singing voice.

You do not know who I am. Trust me on this. You might think you do. You don’t.

You also made a mistake as to where my home town is. You drew an inference, which was wrong.

I spent my last three years of school in the Rat. It is not my home town.

For the record, Ballarat is a shit-stained freezing HELLhole full of bogans, who are overshadowed by bigger bogans.

Again – you are a mentally ill Dunning-Kruger-esque parody of David Brent in The Office.

I have things to do. I’ll let you wail into the abdomens of your many cats while I do them.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 10:00 am

No worries Kneel.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 10:00 am

Well Tim,

Is a strip search an aggravated sexual assault?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 25, 2022 10:01 am

After the Yoo-rrook Truth and Justice Commission, Aboriginal people are not obliged to forgive
By International Affairs Analyst Stan Grant
Posted Sun 14 Mar 2021 at 2:00am

Reconciliation? What’s that?

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 25, 2022 10:02 am

1. Not enough cocaine.
2. Too much sex with girlfriends instead of team mates.

Relax. It’s only the 2nd week of the season. Things will settle down shortly.

Dot
Dot
March 25, 2022 10:03 am

Faustus

You then have to split it up by vaccine type.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 25, 2022 10:08 am

rosiesays:
March 25, 2022 at 6:56 am
There is no ‘boss’ in the trinity.

John 6:38 – “For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.”

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
March 25, 2022 10:09 am

At least nine mass shootings last weekend across the US

The burst of weekend violence continues a trend that began almost two years ago, early in the Covid-19 pandemic, and shows no signs of easing,

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 25, 2022 10:09 am

Socialists making life hell for ethnic landlords in NYC; planning to confiscate their property.

That is how socialists win support – tell people all the stuff they are get when it is confiscated from someone else, letting them incorrectly construe that as meaning they will never have anything taken from them.

While there is severe inequality in socialist states, it is only a small group that live like kings. Far and away most people live equally drab, monotonous, ramshackle lives. Suddenly there is no one to take from and the end state is worse than when they were given nothing.

rosie
rosie
March 25, 2022 10:12 am

My understanding is co-equal.
One God three persons,
Not Master with two servants.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 25, 2022 10:12 am

Ben Roberts-Smith had a reputation for bullying a comrade, federal MP Andrew Hastie tells court

Mr Hastie recounted sitting down for breakfast in 2012 with a group of his colleagues when Mr Roberts-Smith appeared on TV, talking about the mental health charities he supported.

“Person 68 stopped… and said loudly, ‘RS gave Person One depression, now he’s gonna help him fight it’.”

So, hearsay about hearsay.
Is this a new standard being set?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 25, 2022 10:15 am

You then have to split it up by vaccine type.

Not for the unjabbed, you don’t.

Bruce in WA
March 25, 2022 10:20 am

Hands up anyone who didn’t see this coming a mile away.

Anyone?

I note it’s also only “encouraged” — at present.

Vulnerable Australians will be encouraged to receive a fourth dose of the Covid vaccine amid increased fears winter could spark a massive infection surge.

A second booster shot will be made available to people over the age of 65 and those who are immunocompromised from April following advice from the nation’s top immunisation experts.

The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation will also recommend Indigenous Australians aged 50 and over, as well as residents of aged and disability care facilities, will be eligible for an additional dose.

But the advisory body said the was “insufficient evidence” to expand eligibility up to everyday Australians.

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