Open Thread – Easter Weekend 2022


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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 17, 2022 4:36 pm

Sharma says numbers are declining not because people care less about the environment. It’s part of a broader shift in how people mobilise. Although she admits that some people have become increasingly disengaged and disillusioned with the government’s lack of action. The challenge for those still in the movement is how to reignite it.

Face it, young lady of seventeen years, the ‘climate emergency’ is over.
It never existed and it definitely is being exposed as a hoax and fraud now.
Concentrate on your schoolwork and looking great for the boys soon to be in your life.
There is more to life and love than activism. A bright future looms. Go out and have fun.

‘Youth’s a stuff will not endure’.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 17, 2022 4:36 pm

Also, Zelensky can go fuck himself. He’s trying to goad the West into the war, ie. he’s trying to start WW3. No, you can’t have a US-imposed no-fly zone, Zelensky (or at least I hope to God you don’t get one). As US planes will be shot down, Russian SAM positions will be struck, things will kick off in the Black Sea, and the situation will escalate to…well…I don’t like to think about it.

DaFisk
DaFisk
April 17, 2022 4:37 pm

Only the Russians were asking about some sort of peaceful de escalation as far as I see it.

One of Putin’s demands was for Ukraine to abolish its military (“demilitarise”). Abolish your military or we’ll invade! That’s deescalation, is it?

Roger
Roger
April 17, 2022 4:37 pm

What sort of barbie do you have?

Gas 4 burner, Winston.

Although best to turn the two inside burners off once the desired temp is reached.

The thermometer showed a little over 200c but I’d estimate the meat was actually cooking at about 180.

Winston Smith
April 17, 2022 4:38 pm

Delta A:

Consequently, while the family are feasting and celebrating at Daughter’s house, I’m eating a chicken wing and yesterday’s potato salad. Alone. *Sob*

Shitful is what it is.
The damage done to the social structure of this nation may never be fixed.
What wine did you have with it, Delta A?

Zipster
April 17, 2022 4:39 pm

Trudeaux has now outlawed news outlets he doesn’t like.

socialism with canuck characteristics

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 17, 2022 4:41 pm

something Biden may or may not have been thinking

I’m not sure he thinks about anything much. Certainly not for long. Did you see that recent footage of him wandering away from the podium to shake someone’s hand who wasn’t there? And then he turned around, clearly didn’t know where he was or what he was doing, then wandered off.

We are in dangerous waters, folks.

Roger
Roger
April 17, 2022 4:45 pm

The thermometer showed a little over 200c but I’d estimate the meat was actually cooking at about 180.

Probably should also mention we had two chooks and a good sized lamb leg in there with veges as well and it took about two hours.

All turned out beautifully and the lamb was subtly suffused with garlic and rosemary that I don’t normally notice when done in the oven.

Winston Smith
April 17, 2022 4:45 pm

ZK2A:

When climate activist Anjali Sharma gets home from school, she rarely has time to have a snack before she is making calls and writing statements. “I wish I could be a normal teenager and just be able to focus on homework and nothing else.”

Anjali Sharma needs to go back to India for a year so she can sort out her priorities. Like having an electric stove so she doesn’t have to cook with cow dung, or cart water from two km away from a stream where her countrymen shit and piss into it, or delivering her babies with no medical backup because her parents gave her away to a 65 year old bloke who is wealthy – owns his own shack where his other three wives work all day sewing face masks for rich Westerners.

Zipster
April 17, 2022 4:45 pm

Given that Putin revealed to Macron that his plan was to take full control of Ukraine and “neutralise” it, what was there for the Ukrainians to negotiate about?

no doubt macron cc-ed France24 a copy of the script

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 17, 2022 4:45 pm

Because if the nukes start flying, don’t think Australia won’t be a target.

John H.
John H.
April 17, 2022 4:46 pm

Oh come onsays:
April 17, 2022 at 4:41 pm
something Biden may or may not have been thinking

I’m not sure he thinks about anything much. Certainly not for long. Did you see that recent footage of him wandering away from the podium to shake someone’s hand who wasn’t there? And then he turned around, clearly didn’t know where he was or what he was doing, then wandered off.

We are in dangerous waters, folks.

With Biden it is mostly midbrain and brainstem stuff now. Only a matter of time before someone taps him on the shoulder … .

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 17, 2022 4:46 pm

We have had a quiet Easter Sunday this year, a few phone calls to family members, but we are hosting an afternoon party for our youngest son’s 38th birthday tomorrow. He was an Easter baby. I have purchased the cake and two golden candles representing 38. Apparently, as I observe it from many instances, in these days of Covid (even though so many have had it) it is considered polite to remove the candles from the cake after photographs of appreciation have been taken, and hold them in one’s hand to blow them out (hence the numeric candles for adults replace the big firey display; children though still like the big numeric burn-up, sometimes with some gladwrap covering the cake till they are blown out with the full force of a three year old’s daycare germs). I wonder if things will stay this way now, or go back to the previous modus operandi.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 17, 2022 4:46 pm

De escalation was stopping Ukr from killing Russians in eastern Ukr, that would have helped.

John H.
John H.
April 17, 2022 4:47 pm

Zipstersays:
April 17, 2022 at 4:39 pm
Trudeaux has now outlawed news outlets he doesn’t like.

socialism with canuck characteristics

He’s been learning from Putin but doesn’t get an A because he isn’t locking up journalists; at least not yet.

DaFisk
DaFisk
April 17, 2022 4:51 pm

If the mid-term shellacking is bad enough, expect to hear a lot more about the Hunter Biden laptop and sex tapes from some surprising sources!

custard
custard
April 17, 2022 4:51 pm

In case you weren’t aware and are interested, Sharri Markson is interviewing Steve Bannon on her SkyNews Australia program tonight at 7.00pm EST

For those like me who are not subscribed you can listen via IHeart radio and I see some programs are streamed at SkyNews home page.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 17, 2022 4:52 pm

Ed Casesays:
April 17, 2022 at 4:33 pm
This is what NSW Treasurer Matt Kean was responding to:

Half of all males with Trans identities are Sex Offenders, compared with less than 20% of the rest of the Male Estate.
That should tell you something.

-Katherine Deves, yesterday on Twitter
The woman is a nut.

What are the actual statistics? You must know them, to reject the comment so strongly.

Roger
Roger
April 17, 2022 4:55 pm

no doubt macron cc-ed France24 a copy of the script

There will be a transcript.

And Macron was taken aback after the phone call because previously he’d regarded Putin as amenable to a diplomatic solution, with himself as the peacemaker, naturally.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 17, 2022 4:55 pm

With Biden it is mostly midbrain and brainstem stuff now. Only a matter of time before someone taps him on the shoulder … .

See, I’m not so sure. I think it suits the power elites just fine to have a puppet in the WH. With no one in charge at the top, all of the factions are trying to get their priorities pushed THROUGH. That’s why the US seems to have no coherent strategic direction at present.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 4:56 pm

Half of all males with Trans identities are Sex Offenders, compared with less than 20% of the rest of the Male Estate.
That should tell you something.

Yeah.
It tells me that Katherine Deves is a nut and Scotty can cut her loose now or he can wear her like an albatross all the way to May 21.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 17, 2022 4:56 pm

Don’t know why ‘through’ was capitalised.

Roger
Roger
April 17, 2022 4:57 pm

He saw the crisis as an opportunity to burnish his statesman credentials before heading into the presidential election.

Old bloke
Old bloke
April 17, 2022 4:57 pm

But this still doesn’t answer why they didn’t act. To find that out you have to go all the way back to 15 September 2015 when Tony Abbott was unceremoniously removed from the office of Prime Minister.

That event — and I don’t say this lightly — was when the Liberal Party lost its soul.

An excerpt from George Christensen’s letter of resignation to the Queensland LNP.

I like the photo of a younger Scott Morrison at that site, “Drink til you want me.”

Zipster
April 17, 2022 5:00 pm

teenage boy (who has so-called Long Covid)

long covid for kids is a real thing. I have come to the conclusion that triggering autophagy through a once a week 24hr fast is the safest way for them to recover.

covid damages nerves and mitochondria, these take a long time to recover. pacing is important with kids, they have a reduced energy envelop and this needs to be slowly increased over time.

Anyone who wants more info can ask dover for my email or join the discord

JC
JC
April 17, 2022 5:01 pm

Depositors will lose their money next time the banks fail.

What does it mean for depositors to “lose” their money? If it means they lose every cent, maybe but also maybe not. The reason is that it depends on the severity of bank losses and how far losses extend up through the capital and then debt (deposits + bonds).
It may mean depositors move to becoming shareholders. 🙂

Peter Schiff and Megyn Kelly discuss #Elon Musk buying #Twitter, and what will happen to the economy when we can’t raise interest rates and inflation skyrockets.

Schiff is always predicting doom. It may take a while for the Fed to mend things as it’s apparent it’s now behind the game. The Fed is 100% responsible both for inflation and deflation as it has control of the money supply.

custard
custard
April 17, 2022 5:01 pm

I wonder which US state will be the first to decertify their electoral college votes?

Lots of people will say that you can’t, but if you couldn’t why is that strategy clearly the one US patriots have been pursuing vigorously for the last 18 months?

I don’t pretend to know what’s going to happen but I’m still of the view that the US will face a constitutional crisis.

JC
JC
April 17, 2022 5:04 pm

I don’t pretend to know what’s going to happen but I’m still of the view that the US will face a constitutional crisis.

The US is NOT going to face a crisis over the 20 election. It’s over and there’s nothing that can be done about it now. Hiden is president until 24 or before if he dies or they 25th the bastard crook.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 17, 2022 5:06 pm

And Kamala is as dumb as a rock yet is not as controllable as Biden.

My goodness, Kamala is a moron. Did you see that joint press conference (I think in Poland, wherever, some Euro country) she attended with its leader and was asked a foreign policy question that required a little knowledge. She cackled nervously and passed it off to the other guy. Had absolutely no idea.

Like her bright idea to visit the monument by Truc Bach Lake that celebrates the shooting down of John McCain and ‘pay respects’ to the dead prick currently roasting in hell. Did she not realise how stupid the Vietnamese must have regarded her as?

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 5:06 pm

The Karherine4 Deves Saga is reaching Poochy proportions.
Basically, some Liberal Party Roy Cohn has gotta front the cameras and tell the audience that Katherine has returned to Planet Loon and won’t be coming back.
Ever.

Winston Smith
April 17, 2022 5:07 pm

Mother Lode:

This is just something I read on a blog somewhere, I’m not an expert, the person I read may will not of been an expert, or merely an academic competitor, so please take it with a grain of salt. But I wonder if somebody else here has a comment.

I have a comment:
It’s Bollocks.
Bollocks on stilts.
It’s the emotional regurgitations of a man who is so enthralled with his own cleverness and intellectual prowess as to being indistinguishable from the village idiot.

custard
custard
April 17, 2022 5:09 pm

It’s incredible how confident some people are about what’s going to happen in the future.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 17, 2022 5:11 pm

It actually put the Viets in a somewhat difficult diplomatic position, I think. Normally they would register displeasure but it’s such a minor, little-known monument that they probably decided it was so insignificant that responding at all would make them look petty, and ignoring it would be the wiser choice.

custard
custard
April 17, 2022 5:11 pm

Bannon who is the one leading the decertification is being interviewed by Sharri tonight.

I wonder if the topic will be raised?

custard
custard
April 17, 2022 5:12 pm

“Leading “

Perhaps that’s a bit of a stretch, but he’s active nevertheless.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 17, 2022 5:15 pm

Half of all males with Trans identities are Sex Offenders, compared with less than 20% of the rest of the Male Estate.
That should tell you something.

What are the actual statistics?

Seems like Ms Deves was mangling a UK 2019 prison statistic:

76 out of 129 banged up trannies were sex offenders = ~59%
vs
13,000 out of 78,000 male prisoners = ~17%

Dim bulb, taking on the most aggressive political grouping with bum facts.

bespoke
bespoke
April 17, 2022 5:15 pm

The damage done to the social structure of this nation may never be fixed.

It won’t, they will continue to find an excuse to exercise the power they have, Winston.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 17, 2022 5:16 pm

Man bein a skanky ho pays well.
Better returns than Super.
Unless you are at a Young Labour youth camp.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-17/rachelle-miller-allegations-historical-claim-other-liberal-mp/100996320

The former government staffer who accused senior Liberal MP Alan Tudge of abusing her while in a consensual relationship, has alleged another Liberal politician sexually harassed her more than a decade ago.

Her claim makes allegations of bullying, harassment and discrimination by more than one Liberal MP
The ABC has confirmed Rachelle Miller made the new allegations in a workplace claim, as first reported by the Saturday Paper, with a negotiated settlement expected to be more than $500,000.

The claim includes the allegations against her former boss Mr Tudge, of being emotionally and, on one occasion, physically abusive to her while they were involved in a consensual affair in 2017.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 17, 2022 5:16 pm

long covid for kids is a real thing

Yes it is.

It starts at twelve years of age, and finishes at the exact second they receive a power bill they have to pay.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 17, 2022 5:17 pm

The US is NOT going to face a crisis over the 20 election. It’s over and there’s nothing that can be done about it now

Yep, if anyone thinks SCOTUS is going to intervene and put Trump back into the WH is mad. They didn’t have the balls to take the damn Texas case which they absolutely should have – they aren’t going to overturn an election 18 months later. The decertification stuff is useful as it gets things on the record, impacts public opinion etc, but it won’t have any retrospective effect.

Besides, why would Trump want to start his second term now? If he wants a do-over, far better to wait until 2024.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 17, 2022 5:17 pm

If your sense of worth and life revolves entirely around your sexuality then there’s a fair chance that odd and socially unacceptable behaviour will follow.

JC
JC
April 17, 2022 5:17 pm

custard says:
April 17, 2022 at 5:09 pm

It’s incredible how confident some people are about what’s going to happen in the future.

If you’re referring to the 20 election, then there is not going back. The Law courts in the US have refused to even consider cases calling for a decertification. Won’t happen.
Even if states attempt to decertify and succeed, it will not change who is in the White House. unless an impeachment succeeds.

And yea, I’m really confident.

custard
custard
April 17, 2022 5:20 pm

Well you’ll all have to wait and see like the rest of us.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 17, 2022 5:23 pm

The ABC and Labor mean girls hate Katherine Deves because she’s attractive.
It’s about as clever as that.
What’s the trousseau today Ed?

custard
custard
April 17, 2022 5:23 pm

Besides, why would Trump want to start his second term now?

He’d get 6 more years not 4?

Or would he get the 2 years he’s already been deprived as well?

Fucked if I know.

cohenite
April 17, 2022 5:24 pm

This is what NSW Treasurer Matt Kean was responding to:

Half of all males with Trans identities are Sex Offenders, compared with less than 20% of the rest of the Male Estate.
That should tell you something.

-Katherine Deves, yesterday on Twitter
The woman is a nut.

Well donut:

Comparisons of official MOJ statistics from March / April 2019 (most recent
official count of transgender prisoners):
76 sex offenders out of 129 transwomen = 58.9%
125 sex offenders out of 3812 women in prison = 3.3%
13234 sex offenders out of 78781 men in prison =
16.8%

Now this is a narrow study of prisoners.

Incidentally outside of DV in 6th nation relationships which are 35 times the community average, the rate of victimisation in other types of relationships are: 43.8 percent for lesbians, making it the second most affected group after bisexual women (61.1 percent), ahead of bisexual men (37.3 percent), heterosexual women (35 percent), heterosexual men (29 percent) and homosexual men (26 percent) .

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 17, 2022 5:24 pm

unless an impeachment succeeds.

And even then, you’ll get Kamala. Great. If they wait until 22 and maybe get a supermajority in the Senate (unlikely), install a HoR speaker they want then impeach her so the speaker becomes prez…it’s possible but is this a precedent you’d want to set? Bad enough that, going forward, pretty much every President is going to get impeached as a matter of course as soon as the opposing party takes the HoR.

bespoke
bespoke
April 17, 2022 5:26 pm

He will only serve out the current term.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 5:26 pm

Dim bulb, taking on the most aggressive political grouping with bum facts.
Deves is quite presentable, apart from being a nut.

JC
JC
April 17, 2022 5:26 pm

No, I’m not going to wait and see because there’s nothing to wait and see for. Hiden is president and will continue to be save for the reasons I gave earlier. There’s no Trump driving a chariot down Pennsylvania Ave before January 25 because of decertification. Won’t happen. Decertification can occur but it won’t change who is in the White House. You’re sounding like a cargo cultist.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 17, 2022 5:27 pm

Like her bright idea to visit the monument by Truc Bach Lake that celebrates the shooting down of John McCain and ‘pay respects’ to the dead prick currently roasting in hell

Where would I find more about that story?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 17, 2022 5:28 pm

Gruinaid reviewers really hate this film…

So it might be ok.
https://youtu.be/8mamgc47SOE

Touch of the “Conan” about it.

Zipster
April 17, 2022 5:31 pm

What does it mean for depositors to “lose” their money? If it means they lose every cent, maybe but also maybe not. The reason is that it depends on the severity of bank losses and how far losses extend up through the capital and then debt (deposits + bonds).
It may mean depositors move to becoming shareholders.

I could be wrong but isn’t he talking about bail-in provisions?

Zipster
April 17, 2022 5:32 pm

He will only serve out the current term.

not sure “serve” is the right word…

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 5:33 pm

So, for Katherine Deves, the “Male Estate” and Male Prisoners in the U.K.
are interchangeable.
This babe wouldn’t be batting for the other side, by any chance?

custard
custard
April 17, 2022 5:33 pm

Well if there’s one thing I do know, Trump is on the public record to say that he’s not interested in becoming the speaker if the Republicans win bigly (I’m very confident about that) at the midterms.

So he’s obviously got a different plan. He’s also on the public record in saying that we’d like it ( his plan) .

We’ll have to wait and see I guess.

Zipster
April 17, 2022 5:33 pm

If your sense of worth and life revolves entirely around your sexuality

shhhhh… wymins about

cohenite
April 17, 2022 5:35 pm

Deves is quite presentable, apart from being a nut.

Nah donut, she just got emotional; understandable; perhaps she was thinking of this trannie.

Zipster
April 17, 2022 5:35 pm

You Were Right: They Lied.
The FDA is now reportedly ignoring some of its own experts when it comes to authorising vaccine boosters – is this going to help regain public trust in its relationship with Big Pharma?
Russell Brand

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 17, 2022 5:36 pm

Deves is quite presentable, apart from being a nut.

Quite tidy.

JC
JC
April 17, 2022 5:36 pm

Zip

I don’t know what bail-in means.

A bank failure is just like any other fail. If the capital is lost then the creditors become the new owners and their debt is basically converted to equity. Of course, it all depends in the size of the losses and how much of the old equity and existing debt needs to cover the losses.

Ranking of who goes first in a fail

1. Equity
2. Non- secured debt
3. Bond holders.

No.2 would include depositors.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 17, 2022 5:36 pm

taking on the most aggressive political grouping with bum facts.

I want to believe this was deliberate.

And STFU grigglebot, we all know your position on cavorting around wearing ladies things like a poorly tanned skin suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3fe_fmsKjY

You are literally argueing that people with a mental disorder should be allowed to engage in acts of self mutilation, even further, kids should be given the legal capacity to do the same.
Literal insane stuff.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 17, 2022 5:37 pm

He’d get 6 more years not 4?

No, it would be his second term so he’d be out in 2024. The court technically could put Trump back in – it’d be totally unprecedented and they’d never do it, but they could – however, they can’t override the constitutional term limit or meddle with the electoral timetable by adding on another two years to Trump’s term because not fair. The entire bench would get impeached if they tried this.

cohenite
April 17, 2022 5:39 pm

So, for Katherine Deves, the “Male Estate” and Male Prisoners in the U.K.
are interchangeable.

The male estate was the male section of the prison donut; as opposed to the female estate.

This babe wouldn’t be batting for the other side, by any chance?

Regardless, she’s outside your capacity donut.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 17, 2022 5:39 pm

Where would I find more about that story?

I’m sure there are plenty of articles about it you could access via Google News. Search for Kamala Hanoi John McCain.

Delta A
Delta A
April 17, 2022 5:41 pm

What wine did you have with it, Delta A?

Ah, you know me too well, Winnie. 🙂

custard
custard
April 17, 2022 5:43 pm

I think Rumsfeld said it best.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 17, 2022 5:48 pm

Grigglebot approved…

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/09/sexual-assaults-in-womens-prison-reignite-debate-over-transgender-inmates-karen-white

Karen White was on remand for multiple rapes and other sexual offences against women when she transferred to New Hall prison, near Wakefield.

Last week it emerged that after transferring to the female prison, she was accused of four sexual assaults against other inmates between September and November last year, before being moved to a men’s prison.

White admitted to the sexual assault of two inmates when she appeared at Leeds crown court on Thursday to admit to a rape she had committed before she was sent to prison.

Frances Crook, the chief executive of the Howard League for Penal Reform, said vulnerable women were being put at risk by a small number of violent men whose primary interest was harming women.


Pilgrim Tucker, who has led legal action over proposed changes to the Labour party’s policy on the formal inclusion of self-identifying trans women on all-women shortlists, said women campaigning about self-identification had long warned of the risk it posed. “Almost half of trans women prisoners are sex offenders,” she said. “We urgently need to start prioritising the safeguarding of women and girls over the feelings of male-bodied people.”

A government survey has counted 125 transgender prisoners in England and Wales, which is likely to be an underestimate. According to MoJ figures released in response to a freedom of information request by the BBC, 60 of them have been convicted of one or more sexual offences.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 17, 2022 5:49 pm

I’m sure there are plenty of articles about it you could access via Google News. Search for Kamala Hanoi John McCain.

Quite so. FWIW, I had the doubtful privilege of visiting that monument in 2013. Hanoi, the day after Hero of the Revolution Vo Nguyen Giap died, was an interesting place to be…

JC
JC
April 17, 2022 5:50 pm

Custard

Rumsfeld was making decent assertions about uncertainty. Basically he was suggesting that there are black swans and you may not even know there are black swans until they show up.

Rumsfeld wasn’t asserting he was confident of extremely low probability events becoming likely, which what you’re doing.

Zipster
April 17, 2022 5:51 pm

I don’t know what bail-in means.

“Since the end of 2014, new G20 Bank Bail-In Laws have gotten put into place.

Bank depositors are now legally treated as unsecured creditors in the largest economies in the world.
G20 – (n) the world’s largest 19 national economies, including the USA, and the European Union together, a group of 20. Additionally, there are representatives of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank. The G20 finance ministers and central bank governors began meeting in 1999, at the suggestion of the G7 finance ministers in response to the financial crisis in the 1990s.

Bailin – (v/n) restructuring of a financial institution on the brink of failure, by forcing its creditors and unsecured depositors to take losses on their holdings. It often gets regarded as a rescue of last resort to help a troubled financial institution’s ability to attract future business. A bail-in is different from a bail-out, which involves the rescue of a financial institution typically by government credit extensions into the failing private sector.

JC
JC
April 17, 2022 5:53 pm

Oh Okay, thanks zip. So it basically means what I suggested would occur in case of a bank failure. Depositors and or bond holders own the bank.

Winston Smith
April 17, 2022 5:53 pm

John Sheldrick:

The new Covid-19 XXXX Variant has been traced to a certain Queensland Brewery. Brewery Workers have stated that they are experiencing drunk like symptoms…………………………..

Stubbies or tinnies?
XXXX Bitter or Gold?
Differentiation is crucial in terms of recovery.
As long as it’s not Stella Artois – there’s no recovery for that variant.

custard
custard
April 17, 2022 5:53 pm

My take from Rumsfeld was

We don’t know what we don’t know!

Fact check: True.

We don’t.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 17, 2022 5:54 pm

Scott Morrison & the liberal party are socialist shit.

cohenite
April 17, 2022 5:57 pm

MOEBIUS – Jean Giraud. One of the great comic artists.

JC
JC
April 17, 2022 5:58 pm

Ted

Have you ever made a banana daiquiri?

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 6:00 pm

You are literally argueing that people with a mental disorder should be allowed to engage in acts of self mutilation, even further, kids should be given the legal capacity to do the same.

I’m saying that Katherine Deves is a disaster for the Liberal Party Campaign and that they need to cut her loose asap.
Yeah, Albo’s Twitter Army of Thugs & Lobotomised Shitheads will be disappointed, but:
You can’t win ’em all!

Rabz
April 17, 2022 6:02 pm

err, Cats, my Christianity being as non existent as it is, who are the two heroes in the Banner portrait above?

They seem surprised, for some inexplicable reason.

Winston Smith
April 17, 2022 6:06 pm

Custard:

I wonder which US state will be the first to decertify their electoral college votes?

You seem to have your finger on the pulse with this – I’ve kept up with the shenanigans but am getting a bit confused.
If enough States decertify their electoral college votes (Which ones) and the Biden vote falls below the critical number needed to get Biden in, what happens?

cohenite
April 17, 2022 6:07 pm

I’m saying that Katherine Deves is a disaster for the Liberal Party Campaign and that they need to cut her loose asap.

Admit it donut, you’re really matt kean.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

If enough States decertify their electoral college votes (Which ones) and the Biden vote falls below the critical number needed to get Biden in, what happens?

Big shame job for whoever certified the now invalid EC votes.
Being as they’re prolly shameless, this may not have much effect.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 6:12 pm

Goose Morristeen – everyone’s favourite spineless marshmallow (not).

Denounces Ms Deves one day, supports her the next. Tomorrow?

The creature gives weathervanes a bad name.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 17, 2022 6:12 pm

JCsays:

April 17, 2022 at 5:36 pm

Zip

I don’t know what bail-in means.

It’s Faultynomics.
He was always banging on about ‘bail-ins’ but couldn’t quite explain how it would work, and how a sustainable bank would come out the other side.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Katherine Deves is a disaster for the Liberal Party Campaign

Praps I’ve missed something.
All I’ve seen her do is say little kids should not be mutilated, sterilised, or pumped full of hormones, and men should not be allowed in female changerooms, nor should men compete in women’s sporting events.

None of the above is contentious – not in normalvoterland.

My recommendation: The wankerati take their roadshow to electorates full of NESB, recently naturalised Australians, & in particular electorates bristling with adherents of the Religion of Peace.
They may get a rather nasty – and possibly kinetic – shock.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 6:14 pm

Yeah, give Trump another 2 years of Bloviating, BullShitting, and
playing 5-D Chess.
Meanwhile, back at the giant cattle ranch we all live on, the AEC and Labor are poised to steal another election!

custard
custard
April 17, 2022 6:14 pm

I don’t know Winston.

The Patel patriot devolution substack is the best I’ve seen at trying to find the pathway but even he says he doesn’t know what will happen.

The swing states are the (likely, but not necessary only) states that will decertify.

PA, AZ, GA, WI, MI

John H.
John H.
April 17, 2022 6:16 pm

cohenitesays:
April 17, 2022 at 6:07 pm
I’m saying that Katherine Deves is a disaster for the Liberal Party Campaign and that they need to cut her loose asap.

Admit it donut, you’re really matt kean.

PR wise cutting her loose is be the better option. It doesn’t matter to my generation but to Mills and Gen Z it very much matters.

BTW those trans figures in prison, I’d need to know if the perps identified as trans before going inside before I’d take the stats too seriously.

It has been
rather naïvely suggested that nobody would seek to pretend transsexual status in
prison if this were not actually the case. There are, to those of us who actually
interview the prisoners, in fact very many reasons why people might pretend this.
These vary from the opportunity to have trips out of prison through to a desire for a
transfer to the female estate (to the same prison as a co-defendant) through to the idea
that a parole board will perceive somebody who is female as being less dangerous
through to a [false] belief that hormone treatment will actually render one less
dangerous through to wanting a special or protected status within the prison system
and even (in one very well evidenced case that a highly concerned Prison Governor
brought particularly to my attention) a plethora of prison intelligence information
suggesting that the driving force was a desire to make subsequent sexual offending
very much easier, females being generally perceived as low risk in this regard. I am
sure that the Governor concerned would be happy to talk about this.’

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 17, 2022 6:17 pm

I’m saying that Katherine Deves is a disaster for the Liberal Party Campaign and that they need to cut her loose asap.

Because thats sure to win votes, whereas running on preventing kids from being groomed into self mutilation, preserving womens spaces for people without cocks and keeping ladypenises out of ladys prisons would be such impossible arguments to mount.

Victorian : Ok groomers…

https://player.vimeo.com/video/508691701

cohenite
April 17, 2022 6:17 pm

If enough States decertify their electoral college votes (Which ones) and the Biden vote falls below the critical number needed to get Biden in, what happens?

Fladell v. Palm Beach County Canvassing Board (2000) says there cannot be a new election/recall/change of POTUS.

Donohue v. Board of Election of the State of New York (1976) says there can be a new POTUS election or changeover.

Whatever, if there is judicial confirmation that enough votes were fraudulent then biden is delegitimised so that court action could invalidate every decision he has made and if there are enough GOP in the HOR and senate removed through impeachment.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 17, 2022 6:18 pm

Ed Casesays:
April 17, 2022 at 5:26 pm
Dim bulb, taking on the most aggressive political grouping with bum facts.
Deves is quite presentable, apart from being a nut.

Whereas you are simply a nut?

Winston Smith
April 17, 2022 6:18 pm

Custard:

We don’t know what we don’t know!

Correct.
I understand that it is a quote from Classical times and the whole furor about it was just leftists being arseholes assuming they wouldn’t be caught out.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 17, 2022 6:19 pm

Ed Casesays:
April 17, 2022 at 5:33 pm
So, for Katherine Deves, the “Male Estate” and Male Prisoners in the U.K.
are interchangeable.
This babe wouldn’t be batting for the other side, by any chance?

If she is, won’t that increase her cred among Millenials?

calli
calli
April 17, 2022 6:25 pm

They are Saint John and Saint Peter, Rabz.

Racing to check out the empty tomb.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 17, 2022 6:25 pm

Ed Casesays:
April 17, 2022 at 6:00 pm
You are literally argueing that people with a mental disorder should be allowed to engage in acts of self mutilation, even further, kids should be given the legal capacity to do the same.

I’m saying that Katherine Deves is a disaster for the Liberal Party Campaign and that they need to cut her loose asap.

Then she does a Pauline 1996 act, runs as an independent, and wins? Because there are a lot out in voterland who agree with her.

cohenite
April 17, 2022 6:27 pm

PR wise cutting her loose is be the better option.

No it isn’t. This issue cuts through and just because she said something emotional that fact remains: she is on the side of women and the kids. Plus she has been receiving, of course death threats. She’ll get the community sympathy vote as well.

BTW those trans figures in prison, I’d need to know if the perps identified as trans before going inside before I’d take the stats too seriously.

You miss the point; which is will these trannies continue to be a threat to women if their transition allows them to be transferred to the female estate.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 6:28 pm

All I’ve seen her do is say little kids should not be mutilated, sterilised, or pumped full of hormones,

So, you’re commenting without a clue again?
No worries, Sherlock.
The Kid that she picked on is a 16 year old Private Citizen who decided to become a Dude.
Not a little child.
It’s an AstroTurf Issue with the potential to piss off a lot of people the way Katherine Deves is going about it.
Labor can’t believe their luck.
All Scotty has gotta say is:

Thanks, but no thanks, Katherine

and that’s the end of it.
Yeah, Deves can join Connie Fierravanti-Wells, Grace Tame, Tony Abbott
Donald Trump and Nicolle Flint and go on a Whining Tour with
Sole Brothers Circus, but who gives a fuck?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 17, 2022 6:28 pm

cohenitesays:
April 17, 2022 at 5:57 pm
MOEBIUS – Jean Giraud. One of the great comic artists.

Awesome art.
Managed grotesque and beautiful at the same time.

I had remembered this as one of his.
Read it as a kid and never forgot it, not his after all, but similar style.
Each panel can be enlarged.

http://theporporbooksblog.blogspot.com/2012/06/only-plitch-by-enki-bilal-from-may-1980.html

Rabz
April 17, 2022 6:29 pm

This is what Kean was responding to:
“Half of all males with Trans identities are Sex Offenders, compared with less than 20% of the rest of the Male Estate. That should tell you something.”
Katherine Deves, yesterday on Twitter

Eddles, I’m assuming you’re getting all self righteous about the above for two reasons.

Deves is stating the bleeding obvious and she’s undisputedly correct. The latter of course being what galls you the most.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 6:30 pm

calli 🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 17, 2022 6:30 pm

Dickless

The Kid that she picked on is a 16 year old Private Citizen who decided to become a Dude.

So, not an actual adult?

cohenite
April 17, 2022 6:32 pm

but who gives a fuck?

You do, on every donut you encounter.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 6:38 pm

Deves is stating the bleeding obvious and she’s undisputedly correct
She was quoting U.K. Prison Stats and applying those to the [Male] General Public.
She’s an idiot.
Observe the tiny joined earlobes.
Reasonably intelligent people don’t have that feature.

cohenite
April 17, 2022 6:40 pm

Observe the tiny joined earlobes.
Reasonably intelligent people don’t have that feature.

The donuts you fuck don’t even have ears.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 6:41 pm

My goodness, Kamala is a moron. Did you see that joint press conference she attended with its leader and was asked a foreign policy question that required a little knowledge. She cackled nervously and passed it off to the other guy. Had absolutely no idea.

However, before the cackling commenced, she did have this to say:

“Ukraine is a country in Europe, which has borders with other countries in Europe. They include Russia, Portugal, Equatorial Guinea and Argentina.”

Harlequin Decline
April 17, 2022 6:42 pm

Turducken was quoted earlier. Here’s a variation on that where it appears the recipe was mistranslated into Tswana. It would appear turkey got translated as dog and as for the stuffing well, that got translated into slang.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 6:42 pm

She’s an idiot.

Unlike your good self.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 17, 2022 6:44 pm

Bait and switch, bait and switch..

.A: The Kid that she picked on is a 16 year old Private Citizen
.B: who decided to become a Dude.

.A:Ooooh wookata widdle face, poor kid to be protected from the harsh realities of adult criticism
.B: But can make a decision while still a child to self sterilise and undergo hormone treatment and surgical mutilation.

For people born as males, surgery can involve removing the penis and testicles, and sometimes the prostate gland. Tissue from the penis is used to make a vagina and clitoris, which will have sensation. The lips around the vagina (the labia) can be constructed from tissue from the scrotum. The tube that takes urine out of the body, the urethra, is shortened. After surgery, the person uses a vaginal dilator to keep their vagina open.

For people born as females, surgery may involve removing the breasts (mastectomy), ovaries and uterus (hysterectomy). The vagina is closed and a penis and scrotum are made from other tissue — for example, from the arm, thigh, back or the inside of the wall of the abdomen. Sometimes a penis is made from the clitoris, which has previously been enlarged by using hormone therapy.


This is fine
Everything is ok.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 17, 2022 6:48 pm

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/gender-confirmation-surgery

Hell theres only a chance of never having sexual pleasure…

As with any surgery, there are risks involved including bleeding, infections, blood clots, damaged tissue and changes in feeling in the skin. Afterwards, some patients have problems going to the toilet or achieving sexual pleasure and/or orgasm.

….
There are international guidelines covering gender confirmation surgery. Before you have surgery, the guidelines say you must have:

gender dysphoria that has gone on for some time
be able to make a fully informed decision and give consent
be over 18*
have any physical or mental health problems well controlled
have been taking hormones for 12 months continuously, if they are recommended for you
have lived for 12 months continuously as the gender that is the same as your gender identity

*Unless we cant be arsed.
https://www.topsurgeryaustralia.com/ftm-top-surgery-faq.htm#:~:text=Can%20I%20get%20top%20surgery,make%20enquiries%20on%20this%20website.

And awesome… the taxpayer is on the hook.
Gender confirmation surgery can be very expensive — up to about $30,000, depending on which procedures you need. This includes the surgeon’s and anaesthetist’s fees, specialist visits, hospital costs, counselling and hormone therapy.

Many of these costs are covered by Medicare as long as you have a referral. You can check which procedures are covered by Medicare at MBS Online. However, because the surgery is usually performed privately in Australia, you can expect to pay a gap (when the doctor charges more than Medicare pays).

JC
JC
April 17, 2022 6:48 pm

Services, who the hell needs services.

Smith could only be American. His kid is a nurse too.

For FedEx Founder Fred Smith, the Sky Is Still the Limit
He reflects on logistics, economics and lessons from building ‘the largest transportation system ever put on the planet.’

Memphis, Tenn.

In March 2020, at age 75, Fred Smith should have been winding down his legendary career as CEO of FedEx. Then Covid-19 hit, everyone’s life turned upside down, and the company he founded had to save the world—“literally,” he says, with no small amount of passion.

“We, and UPS, and to a lesser degree the Postal Service and a company called DHL, literally kept the world operating,” Mr. Smith declares. “I don’t think that what our people did is understood or appreciated nearly to the extent it should be.”

The people he refers to are the 560,000 FedEx employees in 220 countries. “The pandemic created demand that our folks—and it certainly wasn’t me!—heroically met.” A photo that ran on the front page on the New York Times in March 2020 shows an eerily deserted Wall Street with the lone figure of a FedEx delivery man going about his business. “It was an iconic image,” Mr. Smith says.

Mr. Smith founded FedEx in 1973 with a handful of converted Dassault Falcon 20 business jets—each one “about as big as one of the engines” on the Boeing 777s in the FedEx fleet today. Now 77, he’s stepping down as CEO on June 1, though he’ll stay on as chairman. My plan at his company headquarters in Memphis is to ask about lessons learned over his career.

But Mr. Smith is having none of it. He’s fired up about the here and now, and our talk turns to Covid. Mr. Smith bristles at my suggestion—prompted by his assertion that “we’ll pass $100 billion in revenues next year”—that the pandemic has been good for FedEx. “I don’t think anything that’s taken a million people’s lives . . .,” he says before trailing off in silent indignation. Covid might have been “good in terms of creating some demand, but boy, societally, it has been very bad.”

“I’m not getting on my high horse here, but I’m going to make a point,” he continues. “My best friend died of it, a physician. One of our daughters was a nurse in the Navy Reserve. They called her up from her unit and she was sent to New York.” Her commander dispatched her to Elmhurst Hospital Center in the New York borough of Queens, often described as Covid’s Ground Zero in the U.S. “She was walking across body bags.”

Among FedEx’s contributions in the pandemic, Mr. Smith points to its keeping “people supplied at home and the healthcare and industrial supply chains open.” He highlights the distribution of personal protective equipment and Covid vaccines. “What people don’t know is that we had 900 employees in Wuhan, and they didn’t have enough PPE.” Fedex flew 777s bearing PPE across the Pacific more than 1,000 times in the early months of 2020. “Within weeks, the problem went away.” Then came the miracles from Moderna and Pfizer : “There are only two networks that could deliver the vaccines—us and UPS. And we did tens of millions, at 99-plus accuracy. It was just unbelievable.” (Other companies, including United Airlines and DHL, moved vaccines as well.)

He pivots to the present and China’s latest Covid surge. “By the way,” he says, “our people are sleeping in sleeping bags by the hundreds in the Shanghai FedEx facility, to keep the economy of the world going as we speak.”

Mr. Smith wants to make clear that none of this was easy. Congress’s last Covid relief stimulus “created an enormous amount of withdrawal of labor from the market,” and that had a direct impact: “People make the supply chain this arcane subject. Hell, it was a lack of people to off-load trucks, and of people to drive the trucks.” There wasn’t “a big problem going through those ports out there. They weren’t even working three shifts. It’s simple: you couldn’t move it once it got ashore.”

If this seems a labor-centric view of the supply-chain crisis, it’s attributable to his experience. In summer 2021, he says, “we were 40,000 package-handlers short, and there were people in the media saying that the stimulus checks didn’t have anything to do with that.” Such people are “divorced from the world we’re living in.” FedEx made up the shortfall by December: “It took a lot of effort.” Mr. Smith concedes that large numbers of people may simply have decided not to work for fear of the pandemic. But “if I’m getting a government check,” he says, there’s less incentive to “go into a warehouse.”

He’s alarmed by President Biden’s economic policies. “Had we passed the Build Back Better bill that Biden wanted, my guess is that we would be Weimar Germany right now,” he says. “We’d have 25% inflation rather than 9% or 10%.” Sens. Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin, the Democrats who stymied the bill, were “like the Dutch kid with the finger in the dike.”

In the same vein, he tells me he thinks modern monetary theory—which holds that federal spending ought not to be constrained by revenue—is “insane.” You can’t “print money without regard to the fundamental laws of economics.”

In his view, one of the problems with our political discourse is “the isms. People talk about capitalism and socialism and communism. There’s only two kinds of economic systems: the market-driven and the government-directed. That’s it! The more you move toward a state-directed economy, the less efficient and more corrupt it becomes.”

The history of FedEx tracks the history of deregulation in U.S. transportation. Mr. Smith’s entrepreneurial story begins at Yale, from which he graduated in 1966. A flier who helped revive the storied Yale Flying Club—which had given America some of its finest pilots in World War I—he earned money as an undergraduate ferrying parcels by air for clients. “These nascent technology companies—Burroughs, Xerox, IBM and so forth—would hire an entire airplane and a pilot to move a little bitty package around.” He cups his hands together to show how small his cargo sometimes was.

After two tours in Vietnam with the Marine Corps, he got his tiny company off the ground in 1973. His regulatory fights, Mr. Smith says, were as important as the establishment of his business model. America’s skies were a maze of regulations, and his earliest Dassault planes were small enough to evade most of them. “But there was so much demand,” he chuckles, “ that we quickly outgrew the plane, and that’s why the deregulation of air transport was so important to us.”

The reform of U.S. transportation is “one of the most unremarked success stories of the 20th century.” And Mr. Smith wants credit to go to the oft-derided Jimmy Carter. “He started it all.” In rapid order, Mr. Smith lists the market-liberalizing laws that helped FedEx to flourish: the deregulation of air cargo in 1977, which let FedEx introduce its first Boeing jets, passenger air services a year later, and interstate truck and rail transportation in 1980; then the federal pre-emption of intrastate trucking rules in 1994. Two bastions of red tape—the Civil Aeronautics Board and Interstate Commerce Commission—were abolished. International aviation, which governments had tightly controlled, opened up. “In 1992, the U.S. and the Netherlands enacted the first of many Open Skies agreements,” Mr. Smith says.

Today, FedEx can fly almost everywhere. FedEx is now “the largest transportation system ever put on the planet.” Its 689 planes fly out of 650 airports, and its motor-vehicle fleet exceeds 200,000.

In addition to being a lifelong—and self-described—fiscal conservative, Mr. Smith describes himself as a “social liberal” and “international realist.” His favorite American politician is Sen. Tim Scott, a South Carolina Republican, who Mr. Smith believes would make a fine president: “He has life experience—came up a working person from a disadvantaged category. He’s intellectually very sound. I have no idea whether he’s even interested in running, but he’s exactly the philosophy that I am.”

In explaining his own social liberalism, Mr. Smith points out that “we, years ago, basically approved benefits for our gay employees.” FedEx, he says, is “committed to diversity, equity, inclusion and opportunity.” He offers to bet me that I haven’t “talked to a CEO in a long time who has three African-Americans on their board, four minorities, and four women” out of 12. “We don’t get any credit.”

One of the minority board members, Mr. Smith notes, is Raj Subramaniam, FedEx’s president and CEO-elect. “He’s an Indian,” Mr. Smith says, while observing in jest that “Indian-Americans control the whole economy. You got Satya Nadella”—Microsoft’s CEO—“you got the head of Adobe, the head of IBM. I could keep going. It’s the damnedest thing that I ever saw.” When I press him to explain, he resorts to an answer that skirts the boundaries of our race-fraught times: “It’s pretty self-evident. You have certain cultures where you have family focused on high achievement and academic success, particularly with two parents.”

Free trade is Mr. Smith’s greatest passion. Trade, he says, has enabled the U.S. to be the only global power in human history to get rich while also enabling the rest of the world to prosper. In his view, the neglect of U.S. industry in favor of the financial and tech sectors—for which successive administrations in Washington are culpable—has led to a spike in populism that casts global trade as a villain.

Chinese “mercantilism” hasn’t helped: “You can’t pretend that a mercantilist state like China is a free trader. It’s not.” He’d like a “coalition of the willing” of free-trade states to challenge the Chinese at every opportunity. For his part, he’d like to have a chat with Xi Jinping. “I know President Xi. I met him when he was the party head down in the eastern part of China. If I had a conversation here today, I’d say, ‘Mr. President’—just as I did with Trump—‘I strongly advise you to re-embrace open markets, which made you rich.’ ”

He was particularly dismayed in 2016, when both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton turned against the Trans-Pacific Partnership. He’d like the U.S. to resume global leadership on free trade, and sees such a move as the modern-day equivalent of the Marshall Plan, one which would allow countries to prosper, “not beggar each other.”

The plan takes the name of George Marshall, whom Mr. Smith admires more than any other statesman. The Army’s chief of staff during World War II, he was also President Harry S. Truman’s secretary of state and later of defense. “My father died when I was 4,” Mr. Smith says. “As I grew up I searched for role models in all the history I read. And I’ve tried to model my life on Marshall’s leadership.”

What Mr. Smith liked most about Marshall, he says, was that he was “unassuming, and wasn’t interested in self-aggrandizement, the way, say, MacArthur was. In a way, I’d say, Marshall was the best president we never had.”

As doyen of American CEOs, Mr. Smith has a view from the pinnacle of U.S. business that scarcely anyone can match. After nearly 50 years at the helm of FedEx, he can remember times when American political discourse wasn’t “this balkanized electronic thing, where no one compromises.” His service with the Marines left him with the enduring belief that his country is a force for good—and that a Pax Americana is part of the natural global order. This American peace, he believes, is about more than just preventing war. “It means trade as much as you can and make the world open for commerce. Trade helped to lift 600 million Chinese out of abject poverty. Somebody’s got to defend it.”

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
April 17, 2022 6:50 pm

Did she not realise how stupid the Vietnamese must have regarded her as?

How would she know?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 17, 2022 6:52 pm

taking on the most aggressive political grouping with bum facts.

I want to believe this was deliberate.

Believe.

Goanna
Goanna
April 17, 2022 6:52 pm

Custard.

The Patel patriot devolution substack is the best I’ve seen at trying to find the pathway but even he says he doesn’t know what will happen.

Trump was very busy between November 2020 and January 21 appointing the likes of Chris Miller and Ezra Cohen-Watnick.

At his last speech there was a guy behind him wearing a Devolution. Link t-shirt.
Other signage such as ‘Brandon’ is forbidden. Trump joked about the people behind him becoming famous. What a showman!

Trump never conceded.

He looks pretty confident to me..

cohenite
April 17, 2022 6:52 pm

FFS head prefect will you limit your bulk quotes to less then 200 words; some of us have a life to lead.

John H.
John H.
April 17, 2022 6:58 pm

cohenitesays:
April 17, 2022 at 6:27 pm
PR wise cutting her loose is be the better option.

No it isn’t. This issue cuts through and just because she said something emotional that fact remains: she is on the side of women and the kids. Plus she has been receiving, of course death threats. She’ll get the community sympathy vote as well.

BTW those trans figures in prison, I’d need to know if the perps identified as trans before going inside before I’d take the stats too seriously.

You miss the point; which is will these trannies continue to be a threat to women if their transition allows them to be transferred to the female estate.

She might get a sympathy vote for people over 50 years of age but not from Mills and around that age bracket. She wouldn’t get my vote because it is a stupid thing to say in the heat of an election campaign. Choose your battles. She didn’t, she mouthed off an opinion and raised a subject that is better dealt with outside of an election. That she has removed all her SM accounts and issued a public apology indicates she doesn’t agree with you.

My point is that they are a very real risk to the women prisoners because they are not trans just seeking an easy way out because being a sex offender in a male prison is dangerous. Prisoners have daughters. My concern is the reported stats are misleading because they are not transgender they are sex offenders seeking better conditions. That’s the thrust of the extract I cited and it makes sense to me.

MatrixTransform
April 17, 2022 7:01 pm

I’m surprised you don’t agree, because there are absolutely no moral or strategic reasons to take any other view

are we speaking logic fallacy again?

You should ring Putin and let him know

Rabz
April 17, 2022 7:04 pm

Free trade is Fred Smith’s greatest passion

We all have our greatest passions. Mine is studying the Vogons’ five year siege of Machu Picchu from 1472. One of human history’s most profound tragedies. Had the Vogons’ triumphed, we’d all be enjoying their poetry, in between gnawing our own legs off.

cohenite
April 17, 2022 7:08 pm

My concern is the reported stats are misleading because they are not transgender they are sex offenders seeking better conditions. That’s the thrust of the extract I cited and it makes sense to me.

Of course, although explain this. But what do you call those young boys/girls who transitioned, had surgery and/or irreversible hormonal treatment and then later regretted it? Trans represent at most .6% of the population and I reckon most are deeply confused and potentially dangerous to themselves and others because of that confusion.

If Deves does not win we are fucked.

Franx
Franx
April 17, 2022 7:08 pm

Mother Lode, way up thread:
Chomsky was important in holding to the theory that human language is different from communication, that language is an innate, hard-wired human capacity such that, eg, one does not teach a child the language for the child acquires any without learning and can enact extremely complex linguistic tasks. His analysis of deep grammar went some way to illustrate that human language is very different from that of the language of AI. But I think that he is not now held to be a ‘mad dog nativist’ about language, which is a bit of a pity, I think.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 7:09 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
April 17, 2022 at 6:44 pm
Bait and switch, bait and switch..

.A: The Kid that she picked on is a 16 year old Private Citizen
.B: who decided to become a Dude.

.A

:Ooooh wookata widdle face, poor kid to be protected from the harsh realities of adult criticism
.B: But can make a decision while still a child to self sterilise and undergo hormone treatment and surgical mutilation.

Hi TheFrollickingMole
let me ask you this, since you’re clearly heavily invested in the sordid side of life:
Let’s pretend that an Albanese Government by Legislaing, allowed Men who identify as Women to pursue Olympic Qualification and one of these people made the Olympic Womens Swimming Team.
What would be your preference?
That the person have their Cock removed or that they retain their Cock if that is their wish?

Rabz
April 17, 2022 7:13 pm

the person have their cock removed

Forcibly, via an axe on a stone chopping block, without anaesthetic.

Then all this staggering stupidity would finally be brought to a long overdue end.

custard
custard
April 17, 2022 7:14 pm

Goanna, seems your research has mirrored my own…

Luzu
Luzu
April 17, 2022 7:21 pm

Rabz,

What makes the banner even lovelier in my eyes is the very different men that are portrayed. John is about 15 at this time, the youngest of the disciples. Peter is a hard-bitten former fisherman whose life has been utterly turned upside down by the charismatic Jesus.

But more profound is that they have received the news that the tomb was empty* from Mary Magdalene. In other words, the resurrection of the Messiah was not made known first to the rich, powerful, religiously important or socially prominent but to a woman who had been on the utter margins of her society before being loved, healed, restored and redeemed and given a place of female prominence in the Gospels second, I believe, only to Mary.

As the Russians say and said even under Communism:

Declaration: Khristos voskres – Christ is risen.

Response: Voistinu voskres – He is risen indeed.

* I believe that Jesus rose from the dead at sundown the day before on the Jewish Sabbath. There is nothing in Scripture to support His resurrection being on the Sunday morning, only that it was discovered that day. Jesus said he was like Jonah, in the tomb for three days and three nights. No matter how you try and squish time, there are not three days and three nights between Good Friday and Sunday.

It comes down to the word ‘sabbath’ as the followers of Jesus were adamant that they needed to remove His body from the cross before sundown and the start of the sabbath. But this is where the disconnect between Jewish followers of Jesus and their Gentile brethren who came later is most apparent. A ‘sabbath’ did not necessarily fall on a Saturday, although every Saturday was a sabbath. There were various holy days that occurred according to calendar rather than on a weekly basis.

Jesus was crucified and His body removed from the cross and entombed on the Wednesday of the week in which He died. His three days and three nights are completed at sundown of the Saturday. Faithful and beloved Mary arrives at the tomb on Sunday morning, only to find it is already empty.

Old bloke
Old bloke
April 17, 2022 7:21 pm

custard says:
April 17, 2022 at 6:14 pm

I don’t know Winston.

The Patel patriot devolution substack is the best I’ve seen at trying to find the pathway but even he says he doesn’t know what will happen.

The swing states are the (likely, but not necessary only) states that will decertify.

PA, AZ, GA, WI, MI

That could be interesting for the punters who bet on a Trump win. Could they go back to their bookies and claim their prize?

I think that Tailgunner made some big bets on Trump, he might be able to retire if the bookies pay up.

John H.
John H.
April 17, 2022 7:23 pm

cohenitesays:
April 17, 2022 at 7:08 pm
My concern is the reported stats are misleading because they are not transgender they are sex offenders seeking better conditions. That’s the thrust of the extract I cited and it makes sense to me.

Of course, although explain this. But what do you call those young boys/girls who transitioned, had surgery and/or irreversible hormonal treatment and then later regretted it? Trans represent at most .6% of the population and I reckon most are deeply confused and potentially dangerous to themselves and others because of that confusion.

If Deves does not win we are fucked.

Different issue, he justifies capital punishment. Earlier today I posted a link about a US psychologist arguing the trans thing has become too trendy and dangerous, a position I agree with. I’ve long been aware of the lesbian violence issue and the high rate of regret of those who had the trans surgery. If we’re going to examine criminality in trans we’ll need better data.

She won’t win. We are not fucked.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 7:33 pm

Thanks, Luzu.

Zipster
April 17, 2022 7:39 pm
Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 17, 2022 7:41 pm

And just like that the many kids with intellectual or physical disabilities disappear from view and are replaced by the extremely few who are trans as those we should champion and protect.
Lord knows no other child has ever been bullied or made to feel different.
If your born with brains and a good working body you are not in need.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 17, 2022 7:43 pm

Bloody your for you’re again.
Ruined my own rant

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 7:44 pm

If Deves does not win we are fucked.

Yeah, agreed. If Scotty cuts Deves loose, Labor are fucked.
She’s the only thing they’ve got going for them.

cohenite
April 17, 2022 7:45 pm

If we’re going to examine criminality in trans we’ll need better data.

Its the definitive data now: let me repeat:

Comparisons of official MOJ statistics from March / April 2019 (most recent
official count of transgender prisoners):
76 sex offenders out of 129 transwomen = 58.9%
125 sex offenders out of 3812 women in prison = 3.3%
13234 sex offenders out of 78781 men in prison =
16.8%

What do we get; 3 times as many trans were likely to have been sex offenders then the non-trans male prison population; 3 times, 300%. That’s definitive. The only further info we need is how many of the trans(wo)men sexually offend when they get into the female prison estate.

Deves was right. Scomo was right in supporting her. The challenge is to not back peddle any further. I’ll be sending that study to her. On the other issue of mutilation she was exactly right. The challenge for her is to be passionate but controlled and not emotional.

I repeat: if that skank zali beats her we’re fucked.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
April 17, 2022 7:46 pm

Ed backs up his Mong opinion with a event mongier hypothetical.

The chap wouldn’t be competing with the ladies as certain advantages ( skeletal structure) would in many cases give an unfair advantage.

Try another from the big bag of dumb you keep reaching into.

cohenite
April 17, 2022 7:47 pm

She’s the only thing they’ve got going for them.

And donuts.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 7:50 pm

If Scotty cuts Deves loose …

… again.

Which the preposterous monodimensional marshmellowesque imbecile no doubt will.

As of about 6:00am tomorrow – and Albo will still be sulking in one of his many basements.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 17, 2022 7:50 pm

Observe the tiny joined earlobes

Not creepy at all. Does that make them harder to skin?

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 7:50 pm

And just like that the many kids with intellectual or physical disabilities disappear from view and are replaced by the extremely few who are trans as those we should champion and protect.

It’s not an either/or thing, dumbo.
Deves has singled out an American 16 year old and ridiculed him.
Pretty presumptuous, I’d say.
Labor are loving this, Albo’s missus
[Who’s Young Enough To Be His Daughter]
is planning the Lodge Refurb already.

bespoke
bespoke
April 17, 2022 7:50 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
April 17, 2022 at 7:43 pm
Bloody your for you’re again.
Ruined my own rant

No it didn’t.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 7:51 pm

Ruined my own rant

Gez, it happens. 😕

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 7:54 pm

I repeat: if that skank zali beats her we’re fucked.
Get a grip.
Deves is an idiot.
She’s been flipping off the LBGTI mob on Twitter too.
Labor are loving this.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 7:56 pm

Labore are loving this

Right up until they lose (again).

Twatter is not the mainstream, Eddles.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 17, 2022 7:57 pm

Drive me mental’: Emma Alberici lashes federal election reporting

James Madden
Media Editor
Sophie Elsworth
10 minutes ago April 17, 2022
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Memo to the scores of journalists working around-the-clock on the federal election circus: former ABC chief economics correspondent Emma Alberici says your reporting ain’t up to scratch.

Alberici, who earlier this month popped up as MC at the campaign launch of high-profile independent candidate Allegra Spender, reckons the blanket media coverage of Anthony Albanese’s gaffe-a-thon last week was superficial.

“We are looking at politics in a way that tells you more when someone has done a gaffe (sic), and you know, it drives me mental,” she told the Melbourne Press Club during its online forum last week titled ‘Resilience and Reinvention After Upheaval’.

Of course, Alberici is no stranger to the art of the spectacular economic gaffe herself, having infamously confused revenue and profit in 2018 in a report that then Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull described as “one of the most confused and poorly researched articles I’ve seen on this topic”.

But putting Alberici’s “gaffe-solidarity” with Albo to one side, it was the former Lateline host’s comments about the apparent journalistic cowardice of some of her erstwhile colleagues at the ABC that had seasoned media veterans picking their jaws up off the floor.

Alberici said ever since the Coalition returned to power back in 2013 under the prime ministership of Tony Abbott, the ABC has “been captured by the government, and have been pretty much (that way) for the last nine years”.

“Funnily enough, I was there for 18 years and the last sort of seven to nine have been really obviously different,” she said.

“They (the ABC) have become quite timid in the face of relentless attacks from the government.”

Now, ABC’s political journos don’t always get it right, but “timid” towards the Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison governments? Diary thinks not.

Who could forget chief political correspondent Laura Tingle’s late-night tweet back in 2020, accusing Scott Morrison of “ideological bastardry”?

Or the Four Corners take-downs of Cabinet ministers Christian Porter and Alan Tudge?

Alberici helpfully suggested that political reporting should focus on policy issues of substance.

“I’d love someone in this election campaign to really have a look at what’s going on with the NBN and what it really costs,” Alberici said.

“But no-one has time for it because they are too busy watching Scott Morrison wash someone’s hair.”

During the MPC zoom event, Alberici also touched on her acrimonious departure from the national broadcaster in 2020.

Declaring that she did “every single role” at Aunty, Alberici said to be shown the door was “shocking and insulting”.

When asked by the event’s host, Andrew Dodd, the University of Melbourne’s director of the Centre for Advancing Journalism, whether her redundancy was “involuntary or voluntary”, Alberici replied: “It was a mix of both”.

Luzu
Luzu
April 17, 2022 8:01 pm

Currently enjoying a glass of wine and the works of Abel Korzeniowski, a Polish composer a couple of years older than myself.

The Slavs have a particular affinity for the minor key, it seems.

For a modern composer, I find his works quite enchanting. Mostly, I avoid the discordant noise that is so often produced these days.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 8:01 pm

former ALBC chief economics correspondent Emma Alberscreechee

With the emphasis being on “former”.

She knows as much about “economics” as Eddles knows about brain surgery.

Although at least when the Alberscreechee opines on economics, no one ends up dead or catastrophically disabled.

That we know of.

Franx
Franx
April 17, 2022 8:09 pm

Regarding the morning of Resurrection, the number of days and nights is important yet essentially that number is a figurative matter and it’s very non-restricted meaning allows for a hermeneutic not bound by any horological instrumentation.

cohenite
April 17, 2022 8:10 pm
Rabz
April 17, 2022 8:12 pm

I avoid the discordant noise that is so often produced these days

Sheesh – you sound like my ol’ man.

“Turn that noise down or preferably off”, Saul!

miltonf
miltonf
April 17, 2022 8:20 pm
Dot
Dot
April 17, 2022 8:23 pm

America’s two tiered justice system.

https://tv.gab.com/channel/bianco/view/say-no-to-crack-625ba096a9488ecccfe8d472

Nothing to do with the laptop from hell.

Luzu
Luzu
April 17, 2022 8:23 pm

Franx,

What we have is a clear case of people having received Good Friday as the day Jesus was crucified because of traditional church teachings and then working backwards to make His own words as being like Jonah (three days, three nights) somehow fit.

They don’t.

So either the King of the universe (yes, I like the Jewish title very much) somehow is chronologically confused or humans have latched onto a particular tradition and are now manipulating Scripture to make it make sense.

Why is this figurative? I think Jesus spoke pretty plainly.

Luzu
Luzu
April 17, 2022 8:27 pm

Rabz,

Mate. Enough with the aural shaming. I’m younger than you.

Also, it has been my misfortune to hear modern classical music by accident on ABC. Discordant a lot of it is.

Although, it must be said that once I did catch a snippet of the soundtrack to “The Duchess” (starring the remarkably photogenic if rather flat-chested Keira Knightley) being played on said station and I was captivated. It’s one of my favourites now.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 17, 2022 8:29 pm

Luzusays:
April 17, 2022 at 7:50 pm

Luzu I don’t want to argue about it and you’re at liberty to believe what you want.
However as I pointed out, regarding fractional days as a “day” is nothing extraordinary. It needn’t be seen as any sort of slight on 1st century AD Jews.
Is there any evidence that the early Christian church (who were after all still predominantly Jewish till at least about 130 AD) celebrated a “5 day” easter vigil?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 17, 2022 8:32 pm

She’s been flipping off the LBGTI mob on Twitter too.
Labor are loving this.

So am I. And everyone else who knows about it and is sane.

Zipster
April 17, 2022 8:34 pm

it’s easter shoulda used donkeys

“Near Odesa Russian anti-aircraft defense forces have shot down a Ukrainian military transport plane, which was delivering a large shipment of arms supplied to Ukraine by Western counties,” Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Major-General Igor Konashenkov said Saturday.

Luzu
Luzu
April 17, 2022 8:35 pm

Rabz,

Before I forget, my vote is for The Nineties. I want lots of Nirvana (I was living just opposite Seattle in Canada when they became famous), Stone Temple Pilots and Pearl Jam.

Or opera. That’s my second vote. But the real kind. Pavarotti, Sutherland and Horne in full throat.

Zipster
April 17, 2022 8:36 pm

She’s been flipping off the LBGTISodom and Gomorrah mob on Twitter too.

fixinger

Luzu
Luzu
April 17, 2022 8:37 pm

Timothy,

There is no argument for each must be satisfied in his own mind. It is not an issue on which salvation rests.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 8:37 pm

the aural shaming

Apropos of nothing, Luzu, Paul Wallee and band with Joolz Holland and some colourful divas – Wings of Speed

The Original Version

Rabz
April 17, 2022 8:38 pm

Luzu – funnily enough, I posted the comment above before seeing your vote for the Nineties.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 8:44 pm

Sources said the Libs now consider Deves ‘a catastrophic choice in a pro-marriage equality seat’.

Source:
https://qnews.com.au/libs-civil-war-over-warringah-candidate-katherine-deves/
Labor reckon Katherine is a great candidate, she’ll win the election for them on her own.
Also compared Trannies in Women’s {elite] Sport to the Holocaust.
Apparently, Katherine was too young to join the [Communist] French Resistance so she’s saving girls from Trannies instead.

I’ve got only one question:
Has this FruitLoop ever been a Member of the ALP?

Frank
Frank
April 17, 2022 8:45 pm

Trannies are back on the menu it seems.

Evie Amati smiles. Soon to be paroled too it seems, if not already let out.

If your sense of worth and life revolves entirely around your sexuality then there’s a fair chance that odd and socially unacceptable behaviour will follow.

A psychiatrist I once knew said the same thing about The Ghey, defining yourself exclusively in terms of the contents of your undergarments and what you choose to do with them is abnormal.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 8:47 pm

She’s been flipping off the LBGTISodom and Gomorrah mob on Twitter too.
Good on her.
Just don’t do that whilst an endorsed Liberal Candidate
during an Election Campaign.

Zipster
April 17, 2022 8:52 pm

America’s two tiered justice system.

I just can’t watch this, it’s beyond disgusting

Zipster
April 17, 2022 8:53 pm

Y U NO DIE FOR THE COMEDIAN?
War in Donbas: Local youth turn their backs on Ukraine
FRANCE 24 English

Zipster
April 17, 2022 8:54 pm

Good on her.
Just don’t do that whilst an endorsed Liberal Candidate
during an Election Campaign.

why not? so you support conservative cowardness

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 8:56 pm

why not? so you support conservative cowardness
Liberal supporter here.
I don’t support conservative anything.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

What better time to flip a middle finger at the Gaystapo, Waffen SSM, & Transformers battalion, than during an election campaign?
It is a most emphatic method of telling voters you’re normal & well adjusted.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Liberal Party accurately summarised in one line:

Liberal supporter here. I don’t support conservative anything.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 9:00 pm

Eddles supports the gliberals in much the same way I support the greenfilth.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 9:02 pm

err, which is for a change, to his credit …

rickw
rickw
April 17, 2022 9:05 pm

Try the Presbyterians. You’ll get the Gospel. It doesn’t embarrass them.

I do! This was an attempt to get mum and dad off their backside so I thought their old uniting might be a good option.

One theological train wreck too many. Next time we’re going Presbyterian!

cohenite
April 17, 2022 9:05 pm

Rub and tug gets booed off the stage at the Byron Bay Blues festival. That’s gotta hurt.

Deves will win and donut will fuck a peanut encrusted donut.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 9:05 pm

For poor ol’ St Ruth:

I will not (be) kneel

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 17, 2022 9:06 pm

Ed Casesays:
April 17, 2022 at 8:44 pm
Sources said

Ah, the good old “sources said”, last (sometimes first) refuge of the incompetent or biased j’ismist or commentator or “forecaster”.

Try again, Dickless.

Rabz
April 17, 2022 9:07 pm

Rub and tug gets booed off the stage at the Byron Bay Blues festival. That’s gotta hurt

Basements, proving yet again, that they exist for a reason. 🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 17, 2022 9:09 pm

Zipstersays:
April 17, 2022 at 8:54 pm
Good on her.
Just don’t do that whilst an endorsed Liberal Candidate
during an Election Campaign.

why not? so you support conservative cowardness

Dickless is a devotee of the Graham Richardson lack-of-principles philosophy of “Whatever it takes”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 17, 2022 9:11 pm

Ed Casesays:
April 17, 2022 at 8:56 pm
why not? so you support conservative cowardness
Liberal supporter here.
I don’t support conservative anything.

It all becomes clear. Dickless follows the US “liberal” philosophy.

Zipster
April 17, 2022 9:11 pm

Basements, proving yet again, that they exist for a reason. ?

worked for the biden crime clan

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 17, 2022 9:12 pm

My 2c worth before heading off to sleep. I am laid back about most stuff. Transitioning anyone under 18 is child abuse pure & simple. Leave it there.

Kean again is all that is wrong with the Libs. “Chicks” with d&%$# have no place in womens sport. As much as I scratch my head at the modern freakshow (I pity them), let em have their own class…

Think despite the hubris outside Sydney’s NS and electorates that will never go lib, this will be a nothingburger. Despite media hype.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 9:12 pm

NSW Treasurer Matt Kean:

Cut her loose, she’s killing us in our heartland.

Foreign Minister Marise Payne:

It’s a decision for the Prime Minister.

Brittany Higgins:

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bloke

Anthony Albanese:

Yay, Katherine!

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
April 17, 2022 9:13 pm

Interesting theory on PML re Deves – ScoMo knows what he is doing.
He is putting Deves up in Warringah to voice traditional values which will attract old-school labor voters in other seats. She may go down to Zali but will will a net benefit overall.

PS wonderful to see on PML the vision of Albo getting booed at the Byron Bay blues fest.

miltonf
miltonf
April 17, 2022 9:16 pm

PS wonderful to see on PML the vision of Albo getting booed at the Byron Bay blues fest.

yes it is rather good- the anal makeover hasn’t fooled everyone

Old bloke
Old bloke
April 17, 2022 9:19 pm

calli says:
April 17, 2022 at 6:25 pm

They are Saint John and Saint Peter, Rabz.

Racing to check out the empty tomb.

John was the first to arrive but stood outside, Peter caught up and was the first to run into the empty tomb. Little insights like that give us an understanding of the Apostles, John being perhaps more athletic whereas Peter made up for that with, I don’t know, boldness?, audaciousness?

The seating arrangement at the last Passover Seder shows us that John will lead (the Prince?) of the Tribe of Ephraim (primarily, the Angles), and Peter will be the Prince of Judah.

The thirteen Apostles will judge (lead, govern) the thirteen Tribes in the Messianic era. The original twelve Apostles had Paul added later, similarly Manasseh became the thirteenth Tribe at a later date than the other Tribes. They most likely will return with Yahoshua to act as the inner cabinet, the 72 “others” mentioned by Luke will be subordinate to them and will govern the 72* nations in the era to come, the “outer cabinet”.

Subordinate to them will be a third group, yet to be appointed. Each of the 72 will have 1,000 Priests and 1,000 Kings (local rulers), the 72 x ( 1,000 + 1,000) = 144,000 from all the Tribes of Israel.

*I think that the Jewish scholars talk of 70 nations in the world to come based on the Masoretic record of the souls who went down to Egypt, whereas the Septuagint Bible mentions 72. I tend to put more faith in the Septuagint Bible as that’s the Bible Yahoshua used during his earthly stay.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Albo getting booed at the Byron Bay blues fest.

Jimmy Barnes was due to appear.
Instead they got Albo, who popped up onto the stage to say something while Jimmy Barnes waited out of sight.

Albo did well to get out of it only being booed.
There must have been no oranges or empty beer cans anywhere in the crowd.

Zipster
April 17, 2022 9:20 pm

Way to boost moral

? Russian Ministry of Defense

?A Ukrainian group encircled and completely blockaded in Mariupol on the territory of the Azovstal plant has been asked to voluntarily lay down arms and surrender in order to save their lives.

?However, the Kiev nationalist regime, according to the radio intercept, forbade negotiations on surrender, ordering Azov Nazis to shoot on sight any willing to lay down arms among Ukrainian soldiers and foreign mercenaries.

?In total, according to the Ukrainian servicemen who surrendered, up to 400 foreign mercenaries are now encircled on the territory of Azovstal plant as part of the Ukrainian grouping.

?Most of them are citizens of European countries as well as Canada. We previously reported that radio conversations between militants in Mariupol were conducted in six foreign languages. In the case of further resistance, they will all be eliminated.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 17, 2022 9:20 pm

PS wonderful to see on PML the vision of Albo getting booed at the Byron Bay blues fest.

Made my day!

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 9:20 pm

Transitioning anyone under 18 is child abuse pure & simple. Leave it there.
The kid is born with male and female organs, Birth Certificate says:
Female
Kid is 16 years old, breasts start to develop, kid is freaked out.
Identifies as a Dude.
RockDoctor opines:

Listen up, kid, you’ve gotta wait til the day you turn 18.
I’m off to the bush on my $10,000/week job.
Good luck.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 17, 2022 9:22 pm

There must have been no oranges or empty beer cans anywhere in the crowd.

Disarmed in advance?

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 17, 2022 9:24 pm

cohenitesays:
April 17, 2022 at 9:05 pm
Rub and tug gets booed off the stage at the Byron Bay Blues festival. That’s gotta hurt.

Deves will win and donut will fuck a peanut encrusted donut.

SBS reported it as “Anthony Albanese gets a warm welcome …”, with photos of happy punters clapping and shaking his hand. Who to believe? It’s a tough one!

Franx
Franx
April 17, 2022 9:27 pm

Luzu, I have not studied nor am I familiar with the timeline, yet time is figurative in Scripture. I mean, I don’t quite know why three days, and not four, although just saying so now makes four not quite right, unlike three. Jonah spent three days in the whale, yet an understanding of this event itself requires more than just considering that a man was inside a whale for three days. Some numbers signify sanctity, wholeness, perfection. You raise some interesting points, though. I think Origen was pretty cluey about how to read certain events both for their figurative as well as for their informative, instructive meaning. I just might, maybe, get around to him, after the Evangelists. So little time.
But about tradition – tradition, too, is a source of truth.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 17, 2022 9:28 pm

A psychiatrist I once knew said the same thing about The Ghey, defining yourself exclusively in terms of the contents of your undergarments and what you choose to do with them is abnormal.

Most gays and lesbians I know don’t actually do that. It seems to be just the “activists” i.e. the perpetually aggrieved (whether about LGBTQWERTY or “climate” or anything else). We’re having the whole of our society hijacked by a minority within a minority.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 17, 2022 9:29 pm

China not a big concern: Greens

Jordan Steele-John says Australia’s concern over the Solomons-China agreement is‘paternalistic and actually racist’.

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The Greens say China doesn’t pose a threat to Australia and the party has no problem with Solomon Islands’ decision to forge a ­security partnership with Beijing.

Greens’ peace and disarmament spokesman Jordan Steele-John said Australia’s concern over the Solomons-China agreement was “paternalistic and actually racist”, and that the future of ­Taiwan was not a direct concern for Australia or the US.

As Labor attempts to neutralise national security as an election issue by matching the Coalition’s defence commitments, the Greens have called for military spending to be slashed and the AUKUS agreement cancelled.

The party wants the nation’s nuclear submarine and hypersonic missile programs to be axed, Pine Gap closed and US marines out of Darwin.

While China has built the ­region’s largest navy, and ­deployed missiles on South China Sea islands that can reach Australia, Senator Steele-John said it was Australia’s responsibility to “de-escalate” tensions with Beijing.

“I don’t see China as a military threat to Australia,” he told The Australian.

Senator Steele-John said Labor and the Coalition were “happy to see Australia treated as an American aircraft carrier”, ratcheting up tensions with Beijing.

“The Greens absolutely oppose this. We must have an independent foreign and defence policy, which allows us to work with our neighbours to de-escalate,” he said.

The senator said Australia should also butt out of the affairs of Pacific states, arguing they should be free to “defend their territorial boundaries and build relationships” as they saw fit.

“Peace in our time..”

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 17, 2022 9:30 pm

Interesting theory on PML re Deves – ScoMo knows what he is doing.
He is putting Deves up in Warringah to voice traditional values which will attract old-school labor voters in other seats. She may go down to Zali but will will a net benefit overall.

If that’s true, it’s dishonest and deserves to fail.
He’s treating old school Labor voters like idiots.
Yeah, I know, but …. Scotty From Marketing was a dud, leave tactics and strategy to people who know how to get it done.

John H.
John H.
April 17, 2022 9:32 pm

Timothy Neilsonsays:
April 17, 2022 at 9:28 pm
A psychiatrist I once knew said the same thing about The Ghey, defining yourself exclusively in terms of the contents of your undergarments and what you choose to do with them is abnormal.

Most gays and lesbians I know don’t actually do that. It seems to be just the “activists” i.e. the perpetually aggrieved (whether about LGBTQWERTY or “climate” or anything else). We’re having the whole of our society hijacked by a minority within a minority.

That is also my experience. The same with indigenous people.

Franx
Franx
April 17, 2022 9:33 pm

Old Bloke 9.19
Quite a bit to consider. Thanks.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 17, 2022 9:35 pm

Albo gets the “Let’s go Brandon” treatment? Could be a long 6 weeks for Wayne Goosesteen and the Liars brain trust. Maybe the Parramatta RSL and some Mummybloggers.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 17, 2022 9:40 pm

How lucky are we to get a real time stream of what passes as Groogles thought process?

Rabz
April 17, 2022 9:42 pm

Know thy product, peoples! 🙂

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 17, 2022 9:45 pm

Ed. LOL good luck with supporting this.

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