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Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Top Ender says: April 22, 2022 at 11:33 am

May interest some…
Machine gun believed linked to WWII Japanese air raids on display in Broome museum

Thank you Top Ender.
For the handy tip on restoration contained in the article.
An upcoming project is restoration of a similar vintage Lee Enfield .303
Reverse electrolysis followed by crystalline wax. This may be just the trick required to bring the SMLE back to the condition it was in when it entered the water.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 22, 2022 1:53 pm

johanna says:
April 22, 2022 at 1:38 pm
In design / operations / engineering the way to succeed is what I call Incremental Problem Solving.

Of course, one was careful not to let nervous superiors know that this was the approach, instead utilising the kind of buzzwords that warm the cockles of their stony hearts. ?

A thousand years ago, when I was selling big ticket computer systems for IBM, Honeywell published a ‘Buzzword Generator’ that for a few months dominated what was the steam-age version of the internet. In fact, their buzzword generator was an absolute pinch from an article by a 63 year old American public health worker called Philip Broughton. It was entitled How to Win at Wordsmanship.

It used a matrix of three columns of words to generate very convincing gobbledygook. By taking any word from column A, adding it to any word in column B along with another in column C, a new credible acronym would be generated.

Propose “compatible transitional capability” to achieve “integrated transitional mobility” and your boss will probably promote you!

The Buzzword Generator has certainly stood the test of time. Even after more than a third of a century, phrases like ‘integrated logic-based capability’, still have a certain cachet.

or

Page 88: The SIMP Modular Prose System which, by selection of a phrase from each column can generate Nonscience-viable prose for use in reports, articles and papers. The columns can be used in several different combinations.

Struth
April 22, 2022 1:54 pm

See, oh silent cats.
You want a decent blog back, but like standing against tyranny, you want others to do it for you.
You’ll say nothing then whinge……oh I’ve got a sore scrolling finger.
You get the blog your gutlessness deserves.

So many here know I’m dead right.
But they’ve either been jabbed and don’t want to admit it to themselves….points I make they would have been on board with ever step of the way in 2019, they just want it all to go away.
Well it isn’t.
And Dover can ban me from the blog, but your lives won’t be any better.
Denialism and cowardice are miserable existences.
Look how sad and emotional the sneerers are.
As the people continue to die, and the children as well, you better work out who the fuck you are, who you once were, or claimed to be, and sort your shit out.
Get on your knees , but this time pray,…. to our Christian saviour,…. then get up and be the people you were born to be.
Australians.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 22, 2022 1:57 pm

What is “the greatest coverup of incompetence in Australian military history”???

Nassau Bay.
The Americans under MacKechnie were hopeless even led like small children by the 2/6th Bn and the Angau guys. If the Japanese had anything there in defense it would’ve been a military catastrophe.
The coverup was that Blamey couldn’t say anything much without losing MacArthur and US support. All he could do was gently chivvy with minimal success, since MacArthur thought his guys were the bestest fightingest infantry in the wurruld. Such are the compromises one has to make to keep our sugar daddy happy.
Which still is continuing.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
April 22, 2022 1:59 pm

Three rellos who are jabbed and boosted came down with covid in the last couple of days.
One hello was very sick after her booster.
Albo and Sneakers are jabbed to wazoo yet caught covid.
A Super Rugby match this weekend is postponed because a large contingent of the Western Force squad is unavailable because of covid, despite all precautions like vaccinations and “bubbles”.

I think the slow down of people getting boosters is due to an increased understanding of the inefficiency of vaccines. News and personal experiences like the items above keep getting through to the population.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
April 22, 2022 2:00 pm

hello s/b rello.
damm autocorrect!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 22, 2022 2:01 pm

@ OldOzzie-

That’s glorious. 🙂

Here’s the Muppets’ take on that sort of thing:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nhzlsRvLQ2M

(Hard to believe the Cookie Monster was originally green)

Struth
April 22, 2022 2:02 pm

I am absolutely ecstatic that I am not someone like choo choo.
He’s a sad irrelevent fuck.
People say I’m sitting on the couch while I’ve defied every mandate at all times over the last two years.
I’ve lost work.
But I’m not Choo choo.
I’ve lost money.
But I’m not choo choo.
I’ve been imprisoned in my country.
But I’m not Choo choo.

I am proud and happy and proud of Mrs Struth as well.

I wish for you all to get that strength to get that happiness.
Enough of the submission.
It’s going to come back hard after the election.
Anyone who thinks this is over is a moron.
A complete retard.
Ask god for strength and just say I’m done with this shit.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 22, 2022 2:05 pm

IT’S TIME FOR AUSTRALIA TO VOTE FOR CHANGE

It is time to VOTE FOR REAL CHANGE – break Green Power by ranking all parties and candidates and putting the greenest last.

Check out Topher Field on how Preferential Voting works to get the best candidate elected:

With thoughtful and disciplined behaviour at the ballot box (for BOTH Senate and House of Reps) we can get rid of the duds and stop the green rot.

First job – identify the worst candidates and parties. Preference them last on both House of Reps and Senate ballot papers when you vote.

The most dangerous candidates in this election are The Sneaky Greens – they pose as independents but are being supported by rich climate crazies and, if elected, will soon appear in their deep green uniforms. Unless you know better, put all “independents”, Climate 200 and Get-Up supported candidates last.

Just above them put the declared Greens and their allies in the ALP. Then select all Liberals above all of the Green/ALP alliance.

Then focus on who should get your top votes. Choose your numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 etc candidates from the Freedom-Friendly-Minor-Parties.

For the House of Reps, number every square, in order, giving preference to the parties below:

· Campbell Newman, Topher Field and the Liberal Democrats

· Pauline Hanson, George Christensen and the PHON Candidates

· Clive Palmer, Craig Kelly and United Australia Candidates

· Bob Katter and Katter Australia Party

· Shooters, Fishers and Farmers

· Citizen Party and some Christian parties

· Lastly Nationals, then Liberals, then Labor, then Greens

Number every square all the way down to Unknowns and the climate crazy “independents”.

For the Senate (which may have a large complicated white ballot paper) it is safer and easier to number every square above the line, using the same party ranking rules as above.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 22, 2022 2:08 pm

Struth says:
April 22, 2022 at 1:54 pm

I’m not sure your wordwalls can save you, Struth.

You have, after all, declared your utter confidence in my death. Yet refuse to back your rhetoric with action because the proposed stakes are just too high.

How much is freedom truly worth, Struth?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 22, 2022 2:11 pm

I am proud and happy and proud of Mrs Struth as well.

Wait- Have you checked she’s not choo choo?

(Who knew that $10 wig at Spotlight would fool such a principled and morally righteous man… 😀 )

#WeAreLegion

rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 2:13 pm

Good advice from Topher.
Fam ran into an ‘independent’ in Kooyong recently, her Adolfing has done her no favours, I’m hoping.

rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 2:16 pm

Queensland follows suite.
Hard to believe rules are still in place and that it’s still considered newsworthy.
Queensland’s COVID-19 close contact quarantine requirements to ease from next Thursday

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 22, 2022 2:17 pm

Vickisays:
April 22, 2022 at 12:43 pm

I get what you mean.

Im aghast at the depictions of them as magical pixie people who were unique in humanity by having never impacted or altered their environment for their own benefit.

Im slightly less appalled at the “they didnt do nuffink” brigade, but only because the “didnt do nuffink” is less likely to continue the streams of gold into the maw of the professional indigenous class of people.

Eg:
A number of stations are being brought out/leases allowed to lapse and being handed over to Aboriginal groups who then are paid as “rangers” to carry out “cultrual burnings” to harvest carbon credits. (I also despise any “white” business engaging in the same shit use of land)

So instead of a self supporting, managed, productive use of land we end up with people being paid by government to harvest what is effectively a carbon tax on everyone and keeping the land unproductive.

Struth
April 22, 2022 2:19 pm

Your blog Dover.
Your blog.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 2:20 pm

Roger at 9:15.
Agree absolutely about the foreign policy vacuum in the Pacific under Julie “Fashion Week” Bishop.
But it pre-dates her.
Rudd’s only interest in Pacific nations was rustling up UN votes for his Secretary General push.

rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 2:20 pm
rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 2:22 pm

Is it me or did the author of the Musk piece contradict himself within two paragraphs?

Struth
April 22, 2022 2:24 pm

Struth, you are clearly intending to give me the shits.

Don’t kid yourself.
You never came to mind.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 22, 2022 2:25 pm

What is “the greatest coverup of incompetence in Australian military history”???

While at it I could add the Pentropic affair and of course Pyne’s subs. The sub fiasco is a real contender.

I don’t know enough about the Pentropic organisation thing, but since it got quietly dumped after only a few years it sounds like a turkey.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 22, 2022 2:26 pm

Already road deaths are soaring as young people have strokes and heart attacks behind the wheel.
Wait till next years figures come in, none of it of course blamed on the jab, but on driving cars at all.

Oddly, the UK excess mortality statistics don’t show any population increase in deaths in young people relatable to vaccination side effects.

It’s almost as if Trusted Bloggers have accidentally exaggerated the extent to which Covid vaccination is slaughtering the youth.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 2:32 pm

Struthsays:

April 22, 2022 at 12:38 pm

Already road deaths are soaring as young people have strokes and heart attacks behind the wheel.

Road deaths soaring, you say?
Except for the fact that they aren’t.
And, when you delve further into deaths per 1,000,000 kms travelled, it is actually falling.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 22, 2022 2:33 pm

I don’t know enough about the Pentropic organisation thing, but since it got quietly dumped after only a few years it sounds like a turkey.

In practice, I think at the Brigade/Division level, Pentropic organisations lacked sufficient logistical support and mobility assets to effectively function.

I think one battalion of the RAR deployed to Borneo under the Pentropic organisation, but the concept mainly fell apart under exercise conditions at home. And Army quickly reverted to its more traditional force arrangements in time for Vietnam.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 22, 2022 2:34 pm

Or are you writing an evisceration of the post-2001 ADF High Command and its political interferences and woke peccadilloes in every active operation Australian soldiers, sailors and airmen have been involved in since that time? Up to and including Brereton?

This is what I thought immediately upon reading TE. But we are both wrong because anyone can see it, so no coverup. Probably the most damaging apart the tragic loss of life recorded on the Hall of Memory.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 22, 2022 2:36 pm

Among the white noise:

You may have noticed, but I’ve lost all respect for those that have.

Does this include your own son or not?

Because there’s just right and wrong with you. Right?

Or does naivety count in that one case?

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
April 22, 2022 2:49 pm

Oi Dover… in a stoush of equal ad lib ad homs, Struth is winning the uptick ratio. Dicklessly distributed maybe, but just sayin’.

P
P
April 22, 2022 2:49 pm

Jason stepping in for his boss who has the bug will be interesting.

Struth
April 22, 2022 2:55 pm

After lockdowns and interstate and intrastate travel bans, and 5 k’s from the house tyranny and the price of fuel….the road toll should be right down.
Except it isn’t.
Even according to Sancho’s link.

And please, don’t quote enemy figures ……….
Next thing you’ll be doing a notaclue and quoting the ABC.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 22, 2022 2:55 pm

How you know your culture’s gone to shit: gender reveal parties.

At least the kid in this story hasn’t yet been born. I’ve no doubt these parties are thrown for 5 year olds, too.

jupes
jupes
April 22, 2022 2:56 pm

What is “the greatest coverup of incompetence in Australian military history”???

The emasculation of the ADF and the lie that diversity is a strength. It is still going after decades.

Vicki
Vicki
April 22, 2022 2:57 pm

I don’t see that as the be all and end all of evaluating Aboriginal culture, but Geoffrey Blainey wrote in “Triumph of the Nomads” (which was very laudatory of the ingenuity of Aboriginal technology) that they didn’t know how to boil water.

Yes – there is no evidence that I have seen that they had receptacles for boiling water. And, despite the plentiful mineral resources in this country, they did not discover how to manufacture metal implements via basic technology. Nor did they develop basic methodology for using clay for receptacles. Nonetheless, they endured for thousands of years.

Occasionally, you hear of techniques of self medication. Annabella Boswell, the daughter of an early settler in “our neck of the woods” recorded, in a letter as I recall, that the local mob tended to an old chap who had a respiratory complaint. They dug a deep pit in which they allowed a fire to burn till it had reduced to embers. They then placed eucalypt branches over the embers. After the embers had cooled, but smoke was still rising from the pit, they placed the old fellow in it for a time. She reckoned he recovered quickly from whatever ailed him. Aboriginal Vicks treatment????

Struth
April 22, 2022 2:58 pm

Among the white noise:

You may have noticed, but I’ve lost all respect for those that have.

Does this include your own son or not?

Because there’s just right and wrong with you. Right?

Or does naivety count in that one case?

Listen, I’ll type slowly ya ol’ gin jockey.

He has never sat on a right wing blog and espoused values that he declared he believed in while doing the exact opposite.

Struth
April 22, 2022 3:01 pm

They then placed eucalypt branches over the embers. After the embers had cooled, but smoke was still rising from the pit, they placed the old fellow in it for a time. She reckoned he recovered quickly from whatever ailed him. Aboriginal Vicks treatment????

You would too if you thought you were about to be smoked and eaten.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 22, 2022 3:01 pm

What is “the greatest coverup of incompetence in Australian military history”???

No idea.
But I do know what the biggest stitch-up was.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 22, 2022 3:03 pm

And please, don’t quote enemy figures ……….

Anything from any source, official or otherwise, that disproves or dissents from the Narrative is the Enemy…

#SJW Struth

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 22, 2022 3:04 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
April 22, 2022 at 2:25 pm
What is “the greatest coverup of incompetence in Australian military history”???

While at it I could add the Pentropic affair and of course Pyne’s subs. The sub fiasco is a real contender.

I don’t know enough about the Pentropic organisation thing, but since it got quietly dumped after only a few years it sounds like a turkey.

I agree on Pentropic.

It was adopted against the advice of Army staff. OK, staff advice is just that, it is up to commanders to decide. But it was modeled on the US Pentomic scheme, which the US had abandoned before Pentropic was introduced here. All that ignores its deleterious effect on the CMF, then quite a significant organisation.

Vote 1, Pentropic for the Thumbs Down.

Struth
April 22, 2022 3:05 pm

There has been a dramatic increase in road rage incidences in slip lanes……….
But that has been confirmed as a false and doctored report.

Struth
April 22, 2022 3:07 pm

You referred to me upthread.

Sorry if I’ve led you on somehow Dover.
But ….er….you’re not my type…..nothing against you…..it’s just me…….

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 22, 2022 3:09 pm

Rex A

I think one battalion of the RAR deployed to Borneo under the Pentropic organisation, but the concept mainly fell apart under exercise conditions at home. And Army quickly reverted to its more traditional force arrangements in time for Vietnam.

It was worse than that.

Having converted to Pentropic, the geniuses at AHQ then realised that Australia’s battalion in 28th Commonwealth Brigade in Malaysia need to have an organisation compatible with the rest of the Brigade.

Well, duuhhhh!

PS, there was no formal brigade level in the Pentropic Division, only a potential to have an ad hoc “Task Force” HQ for temporary tasks.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 22, 2022 3:14 pm

need = needed

Struth
April 22, 2022 3:15 pm

Aboriginal culture staying the same for thousands of years is nothing to brag about.
Especially when life was so harsh for them .
Superstition was the most obvious problem.

When our older generations called tribes heathens, there was good reason.
Abos without Christian culture were like many peoples world wide without Christian culture.
Heathens unable to get out of their own road, too taken up with superstition and fighting.

rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 3:21 pm

Stone age people with no incentives to innovate crashed into modernity two hundred years ago.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 3:21 pm

Struthsays:

April 22, 2022 at 12:38 pm

Already road deaths are soaring

OK.
Soaring.
Except …

Struthsays:

April 22, 2022 at 2:55 pm

….the road toll should be right down.
Except it isn’t.

Ah right.
I said it was up.
But it wasn’t.
Well it should be down, due to factors which haven’t been existed for months (5 km travel limit).
But it isn’t.
So the road toll is largely unaffected, but Trusted Blogger tells me it should be.
One way or the other.
Probably.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 22, 2022 3:23 pm

Oh and the subs fiasco is almost certainly has another chapter to come right after the election when the ALP, more in sorrow than in anger, cancels the nuke sub contract.

Winston Smith
April 22, 2022 3:26 pm

Rosie:

“Unvaccinated arrivals will no longer need to complete seven days’ quarantine, and unvaccinated air crew won’t need to get tested before departure”

But the Emergency Legislation is still there.
If Morrison had the balls of a gnat and the brains of an amoeba*, he would declare the SoE legislation by the States invalid and bring in Federal Legislation to override it.
After all, Quarantine is a Federal responsibility.
*He doesn’t even have these.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
April 22, 2022 3:27 pm

Mummy MacGowan’s gone down with batflu.
…again.
…and hot from his televised 4th re-booster jab.
Either he thinks we’re eejits, or the Politburo has told all leaders to duck into the basement for the next month or so, or he’s constructing a play that says “even if you bend over for endless jabs, and even if you’ve had a normal dose of the sniffles which pre-2020 would have primed your natural defence systems, you’re never safe from COVID, ever.”
Or all three.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 22, 2022 3:33 pm

I treasure the evidence on our own property of those who walked our land thousands of years before us, and who perhaps understood it better than I do.

Yes. To be remembered in honesty, and understood properly in context, its cultural forms still in art and language: but not reprised.

And there should be no more claim of modern day mixed-aboriginal genes people to claim the land via current day monies than I have to claim recompense for any of my ancestral lands dispossessed by the Gallo-Celtics, the Romans, the Anglo-Saxons, the Vikings, and the Normans. because there is a little of all of those in me. Protect certain Australian aboriginal sites, yes, but not all. Offer special opportunities for aboriginal people to advance and assimilate when they really need it. But know that other incoming groups have rights too, and have left their genes in the remainder aboriginal population as a reminder. This is the story of human movement over the planet.

Vicki
Vicki
April 22, 2022 3:34 pm

“Unvaccinated arrivals will no longer need to complete seven days’ quarantine, and unvaccinated air crew won’t need to get tested before departure”

I assume, however, that us unvaccinated are still forbidden to leave Australia.

rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 3:35 pm

Winston
That’s a point of view that’s hotly debated.
Health.
It’s a state issue.
Plus an election has been called.

Winston Smith
April 22, 2022 3:35 pm

Rabz:

NDIS ‘failure’ began at Gillard

The NDIS hasn’t failed – it’s doing exactly what it was designed to do – bankrupt the economy from out of control spending.
Standard Fabian Tactic.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 22, 2022 3:36 pm

Or all three.

Welp, he did mistake people punishing Barney from beyond the grave last Election, as a 210% popular mandate for his actions.

So, some time out of the public eye as more justifications for Fortress WA collapse in line with the falling case reports, lack of hospital admissions and growing exposure of the Health System he was allegedly trying to save, probably wasn’t such a bad idea…

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

A 71-year-old man was arrested on Wednesday after DNA evidence confirmed 685 cattle had links to a head of 435 allegedly stolen from a station on Stuart Plateau

This will kybosh the herd supplementing & restocking model of a few people.

“Your 3yo & younger cattle have DNA consistent with that of those descended from a mob duffed 3 yrs ago from the neighbour two stations away, are you able to explain how this bloodline came to be throughout your weaners, 2yo & 3yo cattle, but none of the older cattle?”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 22, 2022 3:37 pm

The NT only has two seats in the HoR. The final list of who’s running (the NT Independent):

The nine candidates running for the electorate of Lingiari in the House of Representatives in the order they will appear on the ballot are:

Damien Ryan, CLP
Blair McFarland, Greens
Thong Sum Lee, Citizens Party
Allan McLeod, United Australia Party
Marion Scymgour, Labor
Michael Setford Gravener, Independent
Imelda Adamson Agars, Independent
Tim Gallard, One Nation
George Kasparek, Liberal Democrats

The six people running for the seat of Solomon in the House of Representatives based on the order of how they will appear on the ballot paper are:

Kylie Bonanni, Liberal Democrats
Aiya Goodrich Carttling, Greens
Luke Gosling, Labor
Tina Macfarlane, CLP
Emily Lohse, One Nation
Tayla Elise Selfe, United Australia Party

Eight parties are running for the NT’s two senate spots:

CLP
Liberal Democrats
Australian Labor Party
Legalise Cannabis Australia
Sustainable Australia Party – Stop Overdevelopment/ Corruption
The Great Australian Party
Citizens Party
The Greens

There’s one group missing. One that self-promoted wildly, and received cash from the punters to boot. If the Citizens’ Party can get a run it must be a doddle for a party marketing itself as a party.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 22, 2022 3:37 pm

I assume, however, that us unvaccinated are still forbidden to leave Australia.

Pretty sure that was quietly abandoned a week or two ago, as well.

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 3:39 pm

rosie says:
April 22, 2022 at 3:21 pm

Stone age people with no incentives to innovate crashed into modernity two hundred years ago.

In those days, the one single concern was food provision. Aboriginals were hunter gatherers, which by definition means that were actually quite wealthy as hunter gatherers require lots of land per person. At the time of both the Cook and Philip arrivals, the average diet of an aboriginal was far superior to that of the average Brit or most Europeans.

Old bloke
Old bloke
April 22, 2022 3:40 pm

Vicki says:
April 22, 2022 at 2:57 pm

They then placed eucalypt branches over the embers. After the embers had cooled, but smoke was still rising from the pit, they placed the old fellow in it for a time. She reckoned he recovered quickly from whatever ailed him. Aboriginal Vicks treatment????

The old fellow most likely didn’t want to go back into the pit so he said he was 100% cured, please, no need for a second treatment.

I’ve heard that one of the treatments for deafness in medieval Europe was for the doctor to pour molten lead into the sufferer’s ear. That method also claimed to have a high cure rate, most likely because the patient would say “no more treatments please, I’m 100% cured now.”

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2022 3:40 pm

. Another friend believes that they were so backward they had not learned to boil water.
Why would they want boiled water?
Cuppa tea?
Washing up?
Hot shower?
These people didn’t wear clothes or live in houses, what use was boiled water?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 3:41 pm

I did have a trucking incident yesterday.
Except I was driving the rig.
Two shifty looking ‘new-Strayan’ types in a smaller tray truck and tri-axle trailer transporting three cars.
Complete dicks.
But that is a story for another day.
Took a trip down Memory Lane (aka Garrett’s Road Longford) to deliver some stuff.
The fucking lane departure warning was constant. I swear, as we got close to the sea, it was reacting to seagull shit on the road.
But I just kept my cool and ignored it.
I didn’t throw my trousers out the window or anything.

Old bloke
Old bloke
April 22, 2022 3:44 pm

These people didn’t wear clothes or live in houses, what use was boiled water?

2 minute noodles?

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 22, 2022 3:44 pm

Pretty sure that was quietly abandoned a week or two ago, as well.

April 18th I think.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 3:48 pm

There’s one group missing. One that self-promoted wildly, and received cash from the punters to boot. If the Citizens’ Party can get a run it must be a doddle for a party marketing itself as a party.

Yes, quite.
And you’d think NT and Queensssland would be right in his wheelhouse.
Because independence runs strong in that breed.
Or so I’ve heard.
Surely the donate button is no longer there on the website, is it?

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2022 3:48 pm

Aborigines treated snakebite by cutting 3 unjoined lines in a triangle shape around the bite.
It works, though “paid experts” now warn against the practice.
Get the AntiVenene, yeah, it’ll fuck your health and you’ll die of it, but don’t disrupt the narrative!
Which is:
Abo males bad, so shaddup your face.

rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 3:49 pm

I’m not convinced JC.
When the weather was favourable perhaps that was true but in drought not so much.
I read, many years ago, that certain practices came into being when food became scare.
That is when food was in short supply the solution was to limit the number of mouths that needed feeding. And of course while coastal areas might have provided plentiful food the year round, I don’t see that that would be the same across the entire continent.
Anyhow my point that when the stone age suddenly met modernity it was a culture shock from which there was no turning back.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 3:51 pm

Well, there’s a surprise.
The donate button is still there.

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Vicki
Vicki
April 22, 2022 3:52 pm

I assume, however, that us unvaccinated are still forbidden to leave Australia.
Pretty sure that was quietly abandoned a week or two ago, as well.

I had not heard that, Rex.

Not that we are aching to travel OS – quite the contrary. We are quietly pissed off with the whole world – except maybe a few of the red states in the USA which have taken a stand against the insanity of the last 2 years.

We have pretty much seen as much of the world as we want to see, and we have seen a fair bit of it in so many decades of intermittent travel. We have not seen much of Scandinavia – but it has never interested us that much – similarly South America. But we have travelled all over the rest of Europe, the Middle East, most of Asia, Africa, and a lot of the USA. We had intended to get a driver & travel a planned route in India, but it didn’t eventuate. I suspect we might have one more road trip in Italy once this Covid madness dissipates. Husband adores Italy, & we would spare him poring over the minutiae of Pompei and Herculaneum, as I once did that on my own.

Perhaps I am getting old…but I just feel that Covid has tainted travel – the carefree, forget the risks – travel of our youth. By God, we were lucky.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 22, 2022 3:52 pm

Aborigines treated snakebite by cutting 3 unjoined lines in a triangle shape around the bite.
It works, though “paid experts” now warn against the practice.

Venom propagates through the lymphatic system, not the blood, Grigory.

So cutting unjoined lines in the skin (WTF?) does nothing.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I read, many years ago, that certain practices came into being when food became scare.

Children born in drought would be eaten, so they could be born again in a good season & have a chance at life.

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 3:54 pm

Rosie,

Unreasonable weather applies to both Australia at the time and Europe so count that that as a negative on both sides of the ledger.

The point is that as far as things went 230 odd years ago, the big issue for most people was getting a feed or two each day. It wasn’t only getting a feed, but also a decent diet.

Source was Fatal Shore, which I read 20 plus years ago.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 3:56 pm

Wut?
Apart from a few administrative things (nomination of office bearers and a written party constitution) there aren’t any real barriers to registering a party.
All you need is 1,500 members and $500.
The plot thickens.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2022 3:57 pm

Eight parties are running for the NT’s two senate spots:

CLP
Liberal Democrats
Australian Labor Party
Legalise Cannabis Australia
Sustainable Australia Party – Stop Overdevelopment/ Corruption
The Great Australian Party
Citizens Party
The Greens

Sustainable Australia is a Labor Party Front
Legalise Cannabis is another Labor Front-JJ McRoach nearly won a Senate Seat off Labor at the ’77 Election, they didn’t make the mistake of running a Party against themselves again.
Great Australian Party?
Where’s their funding coming from?
Labor, who else?
Citizens Party?
See: Great Australian Party.

Indolent
Indolent
April 22, 2022 3:59 pm

Stating what should be, and once was, obvious.

back to the future: recovering from the aggrievement age

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 4:00 pm

Venom propagates through the lymphatic system, not the blood, Grigory.

Correct.
Various witch doctor techniques (vacuum pumps, cutting and tourniquets) have very limited or no effect.

Makka
Makka
April 22, 2022 4:01 pm

dover0beachsays:
April 22, 2022 at 2:09 pm

+ many more upticks…

Vicki
Vicki
April 22, 2022 4:01 pm

At the time of both the Cook and Philip arrivals, the average diet of an aboriginal was far superior to that of the average Brit or most Europeans.

I’ve often pondered those old photographs of tribal Aborigines. They were so, so lean. The latter was obviously the product of eating a basically lean meat diet (& not a lot of it!) supplemented by yams, some gathered greens, grubs, some birds, fish (in some areas) and so on.

Now it is so sad to see such obese individuals who basically exist (at least in remote communities) on the worst items in the western diet which they obtain from community “stores”. And, of course, alcohol.

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 4:01 pm

Children born in drought would be eaten, so they could be born again in a good season & have a chance at life.

The Irish Potato Famine, also known as the Great Hunger, began in 1845 when a fungus-like organism called Phytophthora infestans (or P. infestans) spread rapidly throughout Ireland. The infestation ruined up to one-half of the potato crop that year, and about three-quarters of the crop over the next seven years.

If you were on a small plot of land in the UK/ Europe etc. you were basically fucked. At least hunter gathers could roam around looking for food in a drought.

—————–

Why focus on the outliers when the comment in the book (Fatal Shore) was obviously pointing to the comparable average diet in average weather conditions. Northern Europe had a terrible diet. There’s evidence of just how bad it was as “recent” as the Boar War. 60% of the fellas who applied for military service in the UK were rejected on medical grounds with nearly all of it related to diet.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
April 22, 2022 4:01 pm

Rex, you fool- not a single brick will be deconstructed from Fortress WA without MaoGowan being there, in hard hat and flouros, to claim credit for it. Its monolithic, moronic mass is a self-deifying tribute to its own success- and if the Sandgroper Sultan leaves any exposure to his underlings, or any non-7West media, there’s a huge risk that the narrative momentum will switch to economic and mental depression.

A new Cat wager:
I’ll wire through the price of a jug of bitter, to any WA pub, for collection by any punter who thinks that the big three batflu Nuremburg Treaty outrages – outlawed travel, outlawed work, and outlawed public premises- will fall before Grand Final Day.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2022 4:03 pm

Cannibalism is no biggie.
Human meat was routinely sold in the European markets of the Middle Ages.
There are photos of human heads for sale in the Poltava Region [Ukraine] in 1920 during the Soviet War on the Peasants.,

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 22, 2022 4:03 pm

Biggles, I see you are still having more adventures than Noddy.
I forget, am I still supposed to be in Smelbum today for you to beat me up?

rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 4:03 pm

I was thinking that JC, but considered that Europeans had a greater capacity to store food against future shortages and much more access to trade.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 22, 2022 4:04 pm

I assume, however, that us unvaccinated are still forbidden to leave Australia.

Pretty sure that was quietly abandoned a week or two ago, as well.

I had not heard that, Rex.

Vicki: it’s true – albeit with a severe finger wagging from Nanny State.

Although, depending on where you went, getting around unjabbed in some filthy furrin lands would be difficult.

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 4:05 pm

The other thing I recall from Fatal Shore was that after a short while – with the convict settlement becoming more established and ex-cons settling down- it was startling to see the contrast of healthy Anglos living here vs the old country. It was all to do with diet.

rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 4:05 pm

Okay JC
I’ve a copy of Fatal Shore handy and shall see what Robert says.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 22, 2022 4:05 pm

Dickless

These people didn’t wear clothes or live in houses, what use was boiled water?

Fewer bacteria in water scrounged from muddy waterholes frequented by wild animals?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
April 22, 2022 4:07 pm

…and by “outlawed”, I mean “confiscated”.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2022 4:08 pm

If you were on a small plot of land in the UK/ Europe etc. you were basically fucked.
No, that was the Feudal System, people on a small plot were okay.
By 1788, Feudalism was history, the Small Plots had been enclosed and people in the towns and cities were always on the verge of starving.
At least hunter gathers could roam around looking for food in a drought.
Wrong.
Hunter Gatherers were fucked in a drought, they died like flies.

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 4:08 pm

I was thinking that JC, but considered that Europeans had a greater capacity to store food against future shortages and much more access to trade.

Rosie, I’m sure some did actually store food supplies, but the bulk of the population didn’t as they didn’t have enough plots to sustain consumption and storing food.

I’ve had a few tussles with people at the Cat about the how very low crimes caused people to be transported to Australia as criminals. We have to place ourselves in the world of that time. Food security was a huge issue.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 22, 2022 4:10 pm

Hey Dover I really like your site & input, but are you threatening Struth & his opinions?
Maybe you should do the same to the groovy gang?

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 4:12 pm

Ed

Post Feudalism didn’t remove the fact that people continued to work small plots.

I can’t recall when the numbers changed around, but it obviously progressed through the industrial revolution. The vast bulk of the working population, which at the time included women and kids, were working the land.
People didn’t have 1000 acres per family, you dolt. Shut up.

Makka
Makka
April 22, 2022 4:12 pm

it was startling to see the contrast of healthy Anglos living here vs the old country.

I remember reading (somewhere) that in WW1 when the Aussies mobilised with the Brits, the difference in height , weight and strength of the average Aussie bloke shocked the Brits. Yep, it was diet and a much healthier homeland environment.

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 4:13 pm

Ted

Did you make the banana quota today?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 22, 2022 4:14 pm

Hey Dover I really like your site & input, but are you threatening Struth & his opinions?
Maybe you should do the same to the groovy gang?

The sock account engages in whataboutism.

How cute…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 4:15 pm

I forget, am I still supposed to be in Smelbum today for you to beat me up?

I am not sure why you fear violence, Ted.
I just wanted to meet face-to-face to sort things out.
Are you about today?
I’d love to catch up.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2022 4:16 pm

Someone [CiornHolio] the other day was parroting the story of how Stalin had the Ukraine Census Takers shot after they produced unwelcome figures.
Doesn’t make any sense.
I’d say this is more likely:
Stalin had a geek at the 1937 Census numbers for Ukraine, Kazakhstan, etc, realised that he was short of a fair few million subjects, and went after the killers.
My theory ties in with the Great Purge and looks at it as a rational response to the slaughter the Old Bolsheviks carried out for 20 years.

P
P
April 22, 2022 4:17 pm

COVID-19: Leaving Australia
Last Updated – Thursday, 14/04/2022

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 22, 2022 4:17 pm

Makka, what a dumb comment, remember it wasn’t the size of the dog in the fight, it was the size of the fight in the dog.
The poms weren’t chickens, they once ruled the world.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 22, 2022 4:17 pm

One for Lizzie – Ancient Britons bedevilled by belly bugs

Analysis of skeletons bridging the Roman to the Victorian eras show ancients (unsurprisingly) carried parasitic stomach bugs, but patterns changed with the advent of sanitation.

It may come as no surprise to you that ancient humans played host to a smorgasbord of bugs and diseases, but science, as a rule, likes to tease out the details in the data.

So, in that spirit of curiosity, researchers from the University of Oxford have investigated the history of parasitic worm infections in Britons who lived between the Roman and Victorian eras – and the results aren’t pretty.

Winston Smith
April 22, 2022 4:19 pm

Woger/Wabz:

“Time limited bank notes”, what a top idea. Guaranteed to stop those troublesome pesky pensioners stuffing their mattresses full of $100 bills.

If government can create money by fiat then it’s quite predictable that it could nullify its value by fiat.

Like the Baked Bean stock, keep rotating the stuff out.
People will keep using the nearly OoD stuff to buy more Baked Beans, or just buy gold/silver.
There will always be a black market for OoD banknotes that for a small discount will be laundered through the system.
No government created is able to control a black market. Just look at what happened with the cigarettes and tobacco market.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

If you were on a small plot of land in the UK/ Europe etc. you were basically fucked.

It was those in urban working class suburbs, particularly slums, who were fucked, both in diet and in air quality (i.e. smoky fireplaces inside the dwelling, etc)

Those on a plot of land were restricted, yes but only by lack (or rather, decline) of knowledge.
Europeans weren’t eating near as healthily as they’d been a few hundred years before.

Old bloke
Old bloke
April 22, 2022 4:20 pm

JC says:
April 22, 2022 at 4:05 pm

The other thing I recall from Fatal Shore was that after a short while – with the convict settlement becoming more established and ex-cons settling down- it was startling to see the contrast of healthy Anglos living here vs the old country. It was all to do with diet.

I have read that elsewhere, the “currency lads and lasses” (the first Australian born children) were not only healthier than their parents, but also noticeably taller.

They also had a reputation of being much cheekier as they didn’t show the due reverence and respect to their betters.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 22, 2022 4:21 pm

Biggles, I again invite you to Brisbane.
You are so rich it should not be a worry for you to travel here.
Come along please.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 22, 2022 4:21 pm

The NDIS hasn’t failed – it’s doing exactly what it was designed to do – bankrupt the economy from out of control spending.

Winston, one shouldn’t jump to the conclusion that one’s political antagonists are evil. Maybe some of them are, but I think that for most of the leftists the main purpose of the NDIS was to create vast numbers of cushy white collar unionised public sector jobs for left-leaning Grievance Studies graduates. They’re too stupid to understand the economic consequences of trying to run a society on those lines.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2022 4:22 pm

I can’t recall when the numbers changed around, but it obviously progressed through the industrial revolution
I’ll help you then.
Enclosure wrapped up before 1788 and the Industrial Revolution started 1750 in England.
Kids were being hanged for stealing a loaf of bread.
People working small plots don’t hafta send the kids out to steal bread.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 22, 2022 4:23 pm

Dickless

My theory ties in with the Great Purge and looks at it as a rational response to the slaughter the Old Bolsheviks carried out for 20 years.

The entire leadership of the Red Army, right up to Tukachevsky, was involved in the killings, but the Chekists were not? Interesting theory, perhaps you might offer some evidence.

Winston Smith
April 22, 2022 4:24 pm

Zipster:

Multiple Food Plants Erupt in Flames

rampant bird flu and multiple food processing plant fires, state actors at play?

Multiple dodgy barns full of wet and germinated wheat/rice are burning down and the good stuff is all available on the black market.
Jeez.
Who didn’t see that coming?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 22, 2022 4:25 pm

Aborigines treated snakebite by cutting 3 unjoined lines in a triangle shape around the bite.
It works, though “paid experts” now warn against the practice.

Oh no, another bit of Ed-ucation…
Like defecation but with less fibre, content or wholesomeness.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 22, 2022 4:25 pm

People working small plots don’t hafta send the kids out to steal bread.

Did bread grow on trees when harvests were slim and any little bit of surplus needed to be traded in order to make a living, Grigory?

Subsistence farming on a quarter-acre or so makes for barely-living people. Even if it is traditional to do so.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2022 4:26 pm

Multiple dodgy barns full of wet and germinated wheat/rice are burning down

Not in Europe, spook.
Try harder.

John H.
John H.
April 22, 2022 4:26 pm

Timothy Neilsonsays:
April 22, 2022 at 4:21 pm
The NDIS hasn’t failed – it’s doing exactly what it was designed to do – bankrupt the economy from out of control spending.

Winston, one shouldn’t jump to the conclusion that one’s political antagonists are evil. Maybe some of them are, but I think that for most of the leftists the main purpose of the NDIS was to create vast numbers of cushy white collar unionised public sector jobs for left-leaning Grievance Studies graduates. They’re too stupid to understand the economic consequences of trying to run a society on those lines.

It played right into the holy mission theme in some graduates of a certain ilk. Might be interesting to look at the AO ratios relative to other departments because I suspect a marked upward skew in the NDIS.

A bigger problem might be the services sector reaping a fortune with massive overcharging.

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 4:26 pm

I have read that elsewhere, the “currency lads and lasses” (the first Australian born children) were not only healthier than their parents, but also noticeably taller.

It’s been an incredible country and there’s nothing better. You’re born here and the odds are stacked for you if you’re not really wealthy. But… But it’s really freaking boring though. 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 4:26 pm

Runnybumsays:

April 22, 2022 at 4:21 pm

Biggles, I again invite you to Brisbane.

No thanks.
I am averse to sweaty rednecks.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 22, 2022 4:27 pm

HP how come you ain’t in Europe looking for Putin as you promised, could it be you are full of shit?
Never mind, when are you fucking off to NYC?
Better you get your bodyguards when you get there, them anti white racists there don’t like you spooks.
Have fun.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 22, 2022 4:28 pm

I did have a trucking incident yesterday.
Except I was driving the rig.

No way you drive a truck. You haven’t the pants for it.

Zipster
Zipster
April 22, 2022 4:29 pm

Tucker: Something really dark is going on

WARNING—Graphic footage: Fox News host voices his concerns over the crime spike on ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight.’ #FoxNews #Tucker

rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 4:29 pm

Hughes cites Tench who mentions the three tribes in the Sydney area who ate mostly fish and the tribe who controlled Bennelong point, oysters. If they were sick of fish, small game and plants.
Ranging outside territory was fraught because it was always someone else’s territory.
As for low crimes resulting in transportation that was true, but in context that was mostly Irish, quite a few of whom, in their desperation committed minor crimes deliberately for the purpose of being transported. Iirc the British lowered the threshold for transportation to something like goods valued over a shilling because they were concerned about an uprising. Was that from the book by Cecil Woodham-Smith?
I suspect coastal Aboriginals had far more access to protein that Europeans though I’m in no way convinced that overall ‘quality of life’ was superior.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 22, 2022 4:30 pm

All you need is 1,500 members and $500.
The plot thickens.

Thick indeed. As thick as an Indian turd on the roadside, waiting to ambush the unwary.

johanna
johanna
April 22, 2022 4:30 pm

The easing of the stupid NSW contact rules couldn’t come soon enough. They were causing havoc.

It turns out that many motels, hotels, hospitals and aged care facilities in the Canberra/Queanbeyan area get their linen services from a mob in Sydney. For the last two weeks, there have been hardly any linen deliveries because stupid rules meant that large chunks of the Sydney workforce were sent home to quarantine for a week after their third cousin got a positive PCR test. So, no sheets and pillowcases were forthcoming.

My modest joint has survived by having a stash and also washing their own, but how a hospital or large hotel copes with this kind of disruption, I prefer not to imagine.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 22, 2022 4:32 pm

Amazing biggles, you have been threatening me for weeks.
You told everyone on here that I didn’t rock up.
Typical snivel serpent.

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 4:33 pm

HP how come you ain’t in Europe looking for Putin as you promised, could it be you are full of shit?

Ted, can you explain this Putin thing as you’ve lost me.

Never mind, when are you fucking off to NYC?

I told you before, you imbecile. Next month when the weather begins to warm up.

Better you get your bodyguards when you get there, them anti white racists there don’t like you spooks.

Okay.

Have fun.

I will.

They have a brand of banana there called “Chiquita”. Have you ever picked for them?

rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 4:33 pm

Pre potato famine two acres of potatoes were sufficient to stay reasonably healthy and feed all of your family if you kept a cow or a pig, a little genteel starving between the last of the old and the first of the new was normal.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 4:34 pm

No way you drive a truck. You haven’t the pants for it.

Well, it was quite a small truck.
If I am totally honest, probably “van” would be a better description.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 22, 2022 4:34 pm

OldOzzie says:
April 22, 2022 at 2:05 pm

Just above them (Climate 200 and Get-Up supported candidates) put the declared Greens and their allies in the ALP. Then select all Liberals above all of the Green/ALP alliance.

A safer voting strategy than the wildly popular classic, Put Your Sitting Member Last.

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 4:36 pm

I suspect coastal Aboriginals had far more access to protein that Europeans though I’m in no way convinced that overall ‘quality of life’ was superior.

Possibly okay if you were a reasonably healthy male. Possibly not okay if you were a kid or a Aboriginal sheila giving too much lip. 🙂

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 22, 2022 4:37 pm

Someone [CiornHolio] the other day was parroting the story* of how Stalin had the Ukraine Census Takers shot after they produced unwelcome figures.

My theory** ties in with the Great Purge and looks at it as a rational response to the slaughter the Old Bolsheviks carried out for 20 years.
….
realised that he was short of a fair few million subjects, and went after the killers.***
…..
People working small plots don’t hafta send the kids out to steal bread.***

* Providing linked scholarly article
** Shit Ed made up
*** Such as the actual census takers and the editor of the census publication himself. How cunning, not only did they kill them, they all took up positions as census takers to help cover up the crime… And they would have got away with it, if not for that meddling Stalin!
**** Will riverdance for potato…

Old bloke
Old bloke
April 22, 2022 4:38 pm

rosie says:
April 22, 2022 at 4:29 pm

Ranging outside territory was fraught because it was always someone else’s territory.

Yes, the “welcome to country” ceremony in those days was being on the receiving end of a spear or a skull crushing whack from a nulla nulla. There were no smoking ceremonies and red underpants in those days.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 4:38 pm

Runnybumsays:

April 22, 2022 at 4:32 pm

Amazing biggles, you have been threatening me for weeks.

Threatening?
When did this happen?
I invited you for a chat.

You told everyone on here that I didn’t rock up.

This is true.
I summoned you.
Then issued a standing invitation for every Friday.
You were a no show.
Which, by your own declared standards, was poor form.

Winston Smith
April 22, 2022 4:38 pm

Dover Beach:

If Biden is sectioned, it’s Harris. No alternative. If not Harris for some reason, Pelosi. And on down the line, none of which is good.

Only in an emergency – the Democrats can put any Senator into those positions after due process. Harris may become Acting President but only until the Senate gets a quorum and elects another Senator.*
Now you know the reason the Office of the President Elect was created – well, not created in law, but created in terms of a precedent.
*So I’m led to believe.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 22, 2022 4:38 pm

HP, you keep saying next month & you also said you wanted Putin topped.
Now go do it, but please fuck off soon so we don’t have to listen to your shite.
Deal?

local oaf
April 22, 2022 4:38 pm

But it’s really freaking boring though.

A few revolutions, riots and pogroms might liven the joint up.

Have at it lefties, ya know ya wanna!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 22, 2022 4:39 pm

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If you have a young adult aged 18-24 years in your life that you care about, encourage them to join us to help Council understand what living on the Northern Beaches is like for them. In return, they’ll enjoy a free lunch and prizes on Sunday 1 May at Frida’s Mexican in Narrabeen. Urge them to register here(Opens in a new window).

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rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 4:39 pm

Hughes does mention Tench’s description of wife acquisition.
Not much wooing involved.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 22, 2022 4:40 pm

From Daily Telegraph. Kerry Stokes is a good friend to have.

“Legal costs in the long-running Ben Roberts-Smith defamation case could run as high as $100 million, it’s been revealed”.

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 4:41 pm

HP, you keep saying next month

I said when the weather warms up. I’ve been pretty steadfast on that.

& you also said you wanted Putin topped.

Okay.

Now go do it,

I’m not Russian nor Ukrainian so why would I “top” Putin, you granite head?

but please fuck off soon so we don’t have to listen to your shite.
Deal?

Okay.

local oaf
April 22, 2022 4:42 pm

A safer voting strategy than the wildly popular classic, Put Your Sitting Member Last.

Liberals go last for me.

At least the labor and green creeps are open about their aims, the Liberals lie to our faces and do the same shit anyway.

Zipster
Zipster
April 22, 2022 4:43 pm

Multiple Food Plants Erupt in Flames

18 U.S. food processing facilities burned down in the last six months.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 22, 2022 4:46 pm

From the classic Buck Owens song (apologies to Buck):

I stopped at a road house in Denny
It was a little place called Hamburger Dan’s
And I heard that old jukebox a playin’
A song about a van drivin’ man

[Instrumental]

I climbed back aboard my old semi
And then like a flash I was gone
I got them old truck wheels a rollin’
I’m on my way to Woollongong

Pour me another cup of coffee
For it is the best in the land
I’ll put a nickel in the jukebox
And play The Van Drivin’ Man
And play The Van Drivin’ Man

Zipster
Zipster
April 22, 2022 4:47 pm

“Equal opportunity is what equity looks like to me and providing all people the resources they need to thrive and succeed.”

the education/entertainment industrial complex is cultural euthanasia program

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 4:47 pm
Makka
Makka
April 22, 2022 4:49 pm

remember it wasn’t the size of the dog in the fight, it was the size of the fight in the dog.

You dickhead. Their certainly was impressive. Founded as it was on their control of the seas and trade links through their formidable navy – where the real fighting dogs of several generations before were. But don’t tell me overwhelming bare arsed natives or raggedy sub continentals with armies of modern weaponry demonstrates bravery. Although these same lard heads when it came to a real challenge “bravely” sacrificed a whole generation (including a fair chunk of ours) in 14-18 largely because they were so poorly commanded by in bred fkwits smoking cigars and drinking port at the rear.

So yeah, I’m saying that around the time of WW1 our lads were significantly bigger, stronger and smarter than the clownshow of Brits they were deployed under. Its a fact you moron.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 22, 2022 4:51 pm

A bigger problem might be the services sector reaping a fortune with massive overcharging.

Little chance of that.

The NDIS service price list is so simple and transparent that there is almost no scope for rorting. The Client is always in control.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 22, 2022 4:51 pm

A song about a van drivin’ man

Mrs P was very impressed with my improvised air-horn noise every time we saw a Charlie Pride fellow traveller in a Big Rig.
Complete with arm action.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 22, 2022 4:53 pm

So yeah, I’m saying that around the time of WW1 our lads were significantly bigger, stronger and smarter than the clownshow of Brits they were deployed under. Its a fact you moron.

Yup.

Les Carlyon’s Gallipoli notes British and French troops marvelling at the size and strength of the Australians compared to themselves. The Poms and Frogs themselves made the connection to diet, climate and exercise.

I mean, obviously Carylon was a spook, but still.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 22, 2022 4:53 pm

ISW is worth looking at to see what the US establishment wants to tell the world. Likewise worth reading the WaPo guys’ summaries of the daily Pentagon spokesthing pressers for the same reason.

Having seen plenty games played by both sides I remain sceptical of claims. The maps from the various map sites still pretty much agree that there’s not been much progress. A bit in the SE I think in the last couple days. The Russian Air Force appears to be committing to increased close air support, which is what is needed if the Ukrainians are fighting on prepared defenses.

Makka
Makka
April 22, 2022 4:53 pm

Their empire…

johanna
johanna
April 22, 2022 4:56 pm

Vicki says:
April 22, 2022 at 2:57 pm

I don’t see that as the be all and end all of evaluating Aboriginal culture, but Geoffrey Blainey wrote in “Triumph of the Nomads” (which was very laudatory of the ingenuity of Aboriginal technology) that they didn’t know how to boil water.

Yes – there is no evidence that I have seen that they had receptacles for boiling water. And, despite the plentiful mineral resources in this country, they did not discover how to manufacture metal implements via basic technology. Nor did they develop basic methodology for using clay for receptacles. Nonetheless, they endured for thousands of years.

I don’t know whether any Aborigines, anywhere, could boil water but it’s not because the information was unavailable. They had long standing trading relations with Torres Strait Islanders and Indonesians, for example, who had many technologies and animal husbandry and food growing and seafaring skills that they could have adopted.

But, they didn’t. Their cultures were very rigid, it seems. Frozen.

I say ‘cultures’ because we are talking about disparate groups from the middle coast of the NT down a long way on the Queensland north coast.

It is not an excuse to say that they couldn’t have done these things because of the climate or soils or lack of suitable animals. There were plenty of places with similar climates in the Torres Strait and PNG, they could easily have traded for a few litters of piglets, etc.

They just didn’t want to.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 22, 2022 4:59 pm

I’ll help you then.

Never let it be said that Groogles isn’t a man of the people.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 22, 2022 5:01 pm

Hmmm….

Ed Case said: …before 1788 and the Industrial Revolution started 1750 in England.
Kids were being hanged for stealing a loaf of bread.

Care to prove that Ed?

I presume you are saying it was therefore common. So, what – 10-20 a year in England?

And by kid, you are saying, what, 12 years of age and under?

I await your reply with interest.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 22, 2022 5:02 pm

Makka, you are a typical anti pom Australian, look at the numbers you anti English arsehole & look at the death rates you dumb fuck.
Now fuck off.

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 5:04 pm

Ted

Do you talk to other people working the banana plantation like that?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 22, 2022 5:09 pm

The NDIS service price list is so simple and transparent that there is almost no scope for rorting. The Client is always in control.

I clicked on the link, everything went black, and I came too and found my wallet bleeding, lying in the corner and whimpering as though something awful had taken place.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 22, 2022 5:10 pm

And now a musical interlude (no, not that one)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqi3WYlnKQ0

johanna
johanna
April 22, 2022 5:15 pm

JC:

In those days, the one single concern was food provision. Aboriginals were hunter gatherers, which by definition means that were actually quite wealthy as hunter gatherers require lots of land per person. At the time of both the Cook and Philip arrivals, the average diet of an aboriginal was far superior to that of the average Brit or most Europeans.

The average diet of an Aborigine was unknown at the time of those arrivals, even if the concept had any meaning. There were huge differences between the lifestyles and diets of Aborigines across this vast continent and in Tasmania.

Such generalisations are meaningless.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 22, 2022 5:15 pm

Eye in the sky: Satellite imagery proves vital to understanding Ukraine war

Without personnel in Ukraine, the United States has been forced to rely on alternative intelligence streams to understand what’s happening there, including commercial satellite companies that have come into play.

The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency partners with more than 100 companies and is using imagery from at least 200 commercial satellites, David Gauthier, director of commercial and business operations at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, said during the 37th Space Symposium, according to Space News.

One of the companies that has become pivotal is Maxar Technology, which has four satellites in orbit that can provide “sub-meter and, in this case, sub-50 centimeter imagery,” Stephen Wood, senior director of the Maxar News Bureau, told the Washington Examiner in an interview on Wednesday.

Their satellites are able to capture images above Ukraine, which are then transmitted to a platform the U.S. government can access within 30 to 45 minutes, he explained, calling it a “significant improvement from where we were ten to fifteen years ago.” The satellites, considering they travel in a circular orbit around the Earth, are only able to capture photos of any specific terrain for a short period of time each day.

Stacey Dixon, the principal deputy director of national intelligence, according to Defense One, said at the Space Symposium:

“Early on, we also asked a few commercial companies … and those of you who helped know who you are, helped us to rapidly make available imagery, like the buildup that was happening around Ukraine’s borders, to help shed a light on what Russia was doing. This allowed others to independently interpret the images, piecing them together with other information, and tell the world what was about to happen.”

Maxar’s now focusing their efforts in the Donbas region of Ukraine, he said, explaining that at different points since Russia invaded on Feb. 24, they’ve had different areas of the country to focus on.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 22, 2022 5:16 pm

But, they didn’t. Their cultures were very rigid, it seems. Frozen.

There was an excellent article I cant quite recall by who which explained (It may have been the rebuttal by the anthropologists to Pascoes crap) which explained incredible amounts of resources and “mind power’ were used in performing ‘increase ceremonies” at the right times of the year to make things happen.

Its an incredible cul-de-sac as on the one hand if you hold your ‘make the good rains come” at the right time of the year you will have rain, therefore its working. And if it didnt work it was sorcery from the mob across the river…
Yet taken on that level, practiced and refined for 20-30 generations with huge taboos against innovation it would become a self reinforcing and incredibly hard to break out of society wide mental straightjacket.

That said, they believed in sorcery, we apparently believe a chap in a dress is a lady, because SCIENCE!… so we shouldnt be too arrogant in judging taboo ridden societies.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 22, 2022 5:18 pm

Some EU members say will veto any collective ban on Russian oil — official

The European Union currently has no plans of introducing a collective ban on Russian oil supplies, because several EU members threatened to veto this initiative, EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell told the LENA news alliance in an interview.

“It will be very hard [to reach consent on embargoing Russian oil deliveries or raising tariffs], because some member states have already announced they would veto any collective decision,” Le Figaro quoted him as saying in its Friday edition.

According to the paper, in the wake of a ban on Russian coal supplies, some European countries, including Poland and France, press for a full embargo on fuel from Russia. At the same time, Germany, Austria and Hungary are against it.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 22, 2022 5:21 pm

Head fuckwit, I talk to anyone as I like who tries to separate the white race & make us fight each other.
I like my culture, you may not.
I wonder what the future holds for our race seeing as our politicians don’t like white people.
So maybe it is time to stop to talking about bananas & maybe realise that whitey is fkd.

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 5:24 pm

It’s not meaningless in the least if we consider the average. Perhaps the author was talking about the aboriginals that greeted Cook or the First Fleet because. As I said, I read it 20 plus years ago. Obviously, the aristocracy had a superior diet to all, but the drifting from coastal aboriginals to Tasmanian would be like comparing the very high caste to the low. We’re comparing averages.

johanna
johanna
April 22, 2022 5:30 pm

Vicki:

I’ve often pondered those old photographs of tribal Aborigines. They were so, so lean. The latter was obviously the product of eating a basically lean meat diet (& not a lot of it!) supplemented by yams, some gathered greens, grubs, some birds, fish (in some areas) and so on.

Now it is so sad to see such obese individuals who basically exist (at least in remote communities) on the worst items in the western diet which they obtain from community “stores”. And, of course, alcohol.

Yep, people whose genes are loaded towards being lean do pork up as soon as there is plenty of food around. I suspect that they probably don’t even have to eat very much more than the rest of us to get fat. They are storing up for the next period of low food availability. I have known quite a few big Aboriginal women who, unless they gorge on ice cream and chocolate in the middle of the night, eat about the same way as much slimmer people, but are nevertheless barrels on legs.

Winston Smith
April 22, 2022 5:31 pm

Timothy Neilson:

The only way out of that impasse (assuming that the Dems want to get out) is:
(a) Harris goes;
(b) Biden’s handlers get him to scrawl a signature on a document nominating someone competent as VP;
(c ) The Dem controlled Congress approves the choice, and the new VP is sworn in;
(d) Biden’s handlers get him to step down. The VP automatically becomes President.

Exactly.
If Hillary wants a route to the Presidency, then Harris has to go.
The complication is Pelosi – she will already have the votes lined up to shove Hillary out of the way.
That will be a catfight to buy tickets to.
Unless some of the minor Democrats have someone else to stymie both bitches…. Hmmmm….
Time for a decapitating strike by a China/Russian/Iranian Conglomeration*.
*Nah. I don’t think it will happen, but it would look awfully tempting.
Russia nukes US and Europe. China nukes SEA . India/Pakistan have a tiff over anything – China agrees to a Treaty of Defence Co operation with Pakistan, and Pakistan lets fly at India. Iran has a donkey delivered nuke go off in Tel Aviv.
And before you know it, a tense situation has arrived.
🙂 (I’d better put that in in case I’m accused of warmongering.)
Quite a different world we were promised when we signed up for the French subs, yes?

Makka
Makka
April 22, 2022 5:31 pm

Runnybumsays:
April 22, 2022 at 5:21 pm

You’re a clown. Comparing historical nutritional outcomes isn’t hating, idiot.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 22, 2022 5:31 pm

I assume, however, that us unvaccinated are still forbidden to leave Australia.
Pretty sure that was quietly abandoned a week or two ago, as well.

Note that in WA, the unvaxxed remain barred from a range of venues in measures that are blatantly punitive in nature and have no basis in improved health outcomes. If you’re thinking of visiting this shithole, don’t come out of principle, regardless of your vaxx status.

amortiser
amortiser
April 22, 2022 5:33 pm

rosie says:
April 22, 2022 at 3:21 pm
Stone age people with no incentives to innovate crashed into modernity two hundred years ago.

Well it took “modernity” thousands of years to find them. By 1770, modernity as you call it was not so modern. The pace of change in the ensuing 250 years has been massive.

The life expectancy of a person born in 1770 in Britain was less than 40. For Australian Aboriginals it was probably a little less. Low life expectancy coincides with low population despite high birth rates. In 40000 years of isolation, the population was estimated at 750000 at the time of European settlement.

Modernity is a relatively recent phenomenon and coincides with the adoption of reason and the recognition of individual rights. Europeans crashed into modernity only 250 – 300 years ago.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 22, 2022 5:34 pm

The NDIS service price list is so simple and transparent that there is almost no scope for rorting. The Client is always in control.

I clicked on the link, everything went black, and I came too and found my wallet bleeding, lying in the corner and whimpering as though something awful had taken place.

It’s created a new generation of Thérèse Rein-style ‘entrepreneurs’ – happy to lighten the load.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 22, 2022 5:34 pm

Anyone who doesn’t realise the next government is as useless as the last bunch of cunts is a normal Australian..
Dumb as fuck.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 22, 2022 5:35 pm

Biden and the bunnymen

Oh, to be alive in this age of science fiction in America.

We have zoomed — at Ludicrous Speed — past George Orwell’s “1984” and Stanley Kubrick’s “2001: A Space Odyssey.” Our libraries are kept at precisely 451 degrees Fahrenheit.

The “Planet of the Apes” was the good ole days. The zombie apocalypse was our debutante ball, our bar mitzvah, our 18th birthday party.

We now live in a land ruled by the Easter Bunny where all science is fiction. We have triumphed over gender and conquered free speech. Theft is charity. Science is religion, and fiction has become science.

“We choose truth over facts,” President Biden told us before he surrendered the presidency to the Easter Bunny, who this week tackled Mr. Biden and dragged him away from an unscripted reporter who almost interviewed the vacated president. It was not clear how Mr. Biden had been allowed to come in contact with the reporter during an Easter Egg roll at the White House.

At JFK airport in New York City, citizens were confused and frightened. Just hours after the mask mandate was lifted, travelers clung to their masks like security blankets. They tried sticking their thumbs into their mouths. But, alas, their mouths were covered by masks.

They wandered like sleep-walking children in footed pajamas, clutching their binkies to their cheeks.

Others who remembered freedom from their childhood slung free of the hoods that had bound their faces for years, joyfully swinging them around in the air like a striptease of freedom.

The robotic, obedient fearful looked on in terror and bewilderment. A bag lady wearing a complicated mask dug into her luggage and produced filthy masks to offer those who had joyfully unmasked themselves.

The free travelers looked upon her with pity.

Back at the White House, the Easter Bunny stewed over the sudden outbreak of freedom.

Long live the Easter Bunny!

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 22, 2022 5:37 pm

You convinced me Makka…or maybe not.

John H.
John H.
April 22, 2022 5:37 pm

The NDIS service price list is so simple and transparent that there is almost no scope for rorting. The Client is always in control.

This is an example from someone I know on the NDIS. A cleaner came to his house and spent 15 mins there. Minimum charge would be at least one hour.

Zipster
Zipster
April 22, 2022 5:38 pm
John H.
John H.
April 22, 2022 5:45 pm

johannasays:
April 22, 2022 at 5:30 pm
Vicki:

I’ve often pondered those old photographs of tribal Aborigines. They were so, so lean. The latter was obviously the product of eating a basically lean meat diet (& not a lot of it!) supplemented by yams, some gathered greens, grubs, some birds, fish (in some areas) and so on.

Now it is so sad to see such obese individuals who basically exist (at least in remote communities) on the worst items in the western diet which they obtain from community “stores”. And, of course, alcohol.

Yep, people whose genes are loaded towards being lean do pork up as soon as there is plenty of food around. I suspect that they probably don’t even have to eat very much more than the rest of us to get fat. They are storing up for the next period of low food availability. I have known quite a few big Aboriginal women who, unless they gorge on ice cream and chocolate in the middle of the night, eat about the same way as much slimmer people, but are nevertheless barrels on legs.

There are studies pointing to different insulin sensitivity in indigenous people. Also for their immune responses which may explain the very high rate of infections(and subsequent kidney failure). This is not surprising because recent genetic studies point to immunological shifts with the development of agriculture and perhaps more importantly livestock.

Long ago there was a little experiment where they had indigenes adopt their traditional diet. The transformation was remarkable. Improvements no many health metrics. That will also be true of us but it is more pronounced in indigenes.

Zipster
Zipster
April 22, 2022 5:48 pm

“We choose truth over facts,” President Biden told us

there it is

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 22, 2022 5:50 pm

Top Ender

Another massive disaster for the ADF was the Sea Sprite program. Around $1 billion, no usable aircraft delivered, AFAIK no-one in Navy or the Defence Acquisition organisation suffered career detriment in any way.

johanna
johanna
April 22, 2022 5:51 pm

JC says:
April 22, 2022 at 4:36 pm

I suspect coastal Aboriginals had far more access to protein that Europeans though I’m in no way convinced that overall ‘quality of life’ was superior.

Possibly okay if you were a reasonably healthy male. Possibly not okay if you were a kid or a Aboriginal sheila giving too much lip. ?

What’s your point? We’re talking about diet here.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 22, 2022 5:52 pm

johanna

It is not an excuse to say that they couldn’t have done these things because of the climate or soils or lack of suitable animals. There were plenty of places with similar climates in the Torres Strait and PNG, they could easily have traded for a few litters of piglets, etc.

They just didn’t want to.

Just as a significant proportion today seem not willing to move from dependency to a productive life.

2dogs
2dogs
April 22, 2022 5:54 pm

If Biden is sectioned, it’s Harris.

I suspect this will happen soon.

Why would the Democrats wait until after the mid-terms, which they may lose, and then not be able to replace the office of vice-president after Harris steps up?

And if Harris doesn’t step up, they are going into the 2024 election with Biden.

rosie
rosie
April 22, 2022 5:55 pm

You know I’ve visited possibly dozens of European anthropological museums where they walk you through Palaeolithic Neolithic bronze etc ages, that’s what I meant by crashing into the modern age, which in fact started a little after the 14th century.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 22, 2022 6:02 pm

The Euros had a largely grain based diet.
The Abos had a largely protein based one.

Ergo: The Aboriginals were early gym junkies.*

* Link to possibly the worlds saddest cookbook…. Im talking sub 1970’s “Make everything with jello” level.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 22, 2022 6:05 pm

This is pretty shit.
I saw a reference to it on the news but didnt realise just how shit it was.
https://thecritic.co.uk/the-digital-dirty-war/

One Russian mother was sent a message informing her that her son was dead, accompanied by a photo of his body in the dirt, face grimacing and mouth agape.

“Why are you doing this?” she replied. “Do you want me to die? I already don’t live. You must be enjoying this.”

This is a grotesque new frontier in the history of warfare, so why is it exactly that so many are lining up to justify it? Why, more to the point, is a major US tech firm facilitating what may well be a war crime — and why is nobody in authority doing anything to stop it?

JC
JC
April 22, 2022 6:07 pm

I suspect coastal Aboriginals had far more access to protein that Europeans though I’m in no way convinced that overall ‘quality of life’ was superior.

What’s my point? The last bit about quality of life, which isn’t just diet and was partially a throwaway comment.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
April 22, 2022 6:09 pm

The news that Trivago has been fined $45 million brings back fond memories of the Trivago Girl.
Bugger the “highly misleading conduct”. I liked the girl.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 22, 2022 6:11 pm

Why would the Democrats wait until after the mid-terms, which they may lose, and then not be able to replace the office of vice-president after Harris steps up?

Good point that the Dems’ total control over the process is likely to vanish when the class of ’22 gets sworn in.

But they can rely on substantial numbers of GOP wets to drop their strides, bend over and take the fire hydrant sized shaft right up the tradesmen’s entrance for pretty much anything the Dems propose [see “Bipartisanship”], so it’s hard to know how much of a factor that will be in the Dem factions’ planning.

All we can be sure of is that there’ll be some frenetic bitchslapping going on behind the scenes involving some or all of Harris, Hillary, “Dr Jill”, Pelosi, maybe even Michelle O, and who knows who else.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 22, 2022 6:13 pm

$45m for the Trivago Girl? As I have previously commented – always ends up being cheaper by the hour. Any guess on how much of the $45m will be paid? Any advance on zero?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 22, 2022 6:14 pm

It’s also hard to argue that the employment mandates are legitimate if there are no extant mandate for customers.

I’ve commented to a couple of the staff at the 7/11 across the road about the lack of apparent utility of making them wear masks when there’s also a perspex screen between them and the customer. Their faith in the “science” appears to have waned.

cohenite
April 22, 2022 6:15 pm

The Euros had a largely grain based diet.
The Abos had a largely protein based one.

Damned right, including other aboriginals.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 22, 2022 6:16 pm

take the fire hydrant sized shaft right up the tradesmen’s entrance

That’s a remarkably unkind thing to say about Michelle.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 22, 2022 6:18 pm

At some point, someone is going to have to challenge these orders in law if only to find the limit of a government’s emergency powers. It’s also hard to argue that the employment mandates are legitimate if there are no extant mandate for customers.

Already started, Dover.

It was reported on the Cat, that the WAPOL union (I think) won in the WA Supreme Court against mandatory vaccination a month or two ago. But that quickly disappeared into general background noise here and in wider society, and was met by some anti-police “Why should we care? You got what you deserved for not defending us” sentiment by a couple of posters. And that was about it.

The NZ police, civil defence and military mandate strikedown and NSW wins were much more publicised and commented on here by comparison.

Just a reflection of relative audience proportions and informational preferences.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 22, 2022 6:18 pm

Les Carlyon’s Gallipoli notes British and French troops marvelling at the size and strength of the Australians compared to themselves. The Poms and Frogs themselves made the connection to diet, climate and exercise.

If anyone was wondering.
…if you were the average frontline G.I., you would fit the following description.
You are a 26-years-old white male with nine years of education … You are five feet, eight inches tall, and you weigh 144 pounds.

Remember: those nine years of depression era education were the average.
Rummaging elsewhere, the US Army’s literacy requirement was dropped due to manpower requirements and political pressure.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Fantastic news! Shame it wasn’t more (Tripadvisor next, fine them a few Billion, please)

The news that Trivago has been fined $45 million brings back fond memories of the Trivago Girl.
Bugger the “highly misleading conduct”. I liked the girl.

The downfall of her brand is a pleasing development.

In her (very fake & very unlike her in real life) act as the Trivago chick, she was quite ..er… rootable, but that’s where it ended. I’m thrilled at the downfall of the witch.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2022 6:21 pm

There were plenty of places with similar climates in the Torres Strait and PNG, they could easily have traded for a few litters of piglets, etc.

They just didn’t want to.
I’m guessing that you’ve never smelt a pig, johanna?
Concerning trade, that involved Torres Strait headhunters raiding Aboriginal communities and stealing children.
I did read somewhere that it wasn’t unusual for stolen Aboriginal boys to become leaders among the Islanders later in life.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 22, 2022 6:21 pm

Unfortunately, I’m discovering that a key part of getting a masters-level law qualification involves frequent forelock-tugging when it comes to all things Indigenous. You should see the ex post facto efforts to create and define an Indigenous Spirituality (yes, ‘spirituality’ in this context is a proper noun, for some unexplained reason). It’s a complete load of horseshit that only professional navel-gazers in academia could come up with, and there is absolutely zero evidence that the people who lived here prior to European settlement regarded their existence in such ways, nor that their descendants ever would have, unless they were informed of the nature of their Spirituality by those defining it contemporaneously.

If you read these definitions with a relatively cursory knowledge of the great religions of the world, you can see where these framers of our future history have pinched a bit from Buddhism here (the interconnectedness of things), a bit from Islam there (can only be understood if expressed in Indigenous languages), how storytelling is elevated to religious status a la Judaism, and oh look, the creator/animating life force seems an awful lot like the Holy Spirit. Oh, the other thing they pinched from Judaism is the primacy of one’s life and the relative unimportance of an afterlife. Which doesn’t really make sense, because ancestors are also said to play a crucial role in…well…stuff that happens. However, I probably don’t get it because none of this can fully be translated into English or understood in English.

Anyway, there’s plenty more where the comes from, and plenty more to come where that comes. It’s still a work in progress being developed and beta-tested in every Indigenous Studies faculty throughout the land. I’m sure that, within a decade or so, the completed mythology will have been fully divined in a form capable of being taught to primary school-aged children and above.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 22, 2022 6:23 pm

No government created is able to control a black market.
I find that encouraging and comforting.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 22, 2022 6:24 pm

plenty more where that comes from

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