Open Thread – Weekend 30 April 2022


A Path Through the Woods, Ivan Shishkin, 1880

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lotocoti
lotocoti
May 3, 2022 10:42 am

SloJo SloJoing.

rosie
rosie
May 3, 2022 10:43 am
rosie
rosie
May 3, 2022 10:44 am

Three years ago The Privilege Party would have opted for animal prints.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 3, 2022 10:45 am

That relatively recent movie ‘Midway’ had a scene where a crippled Japanese plane aims to crash into the deck of an American carrier as a final heroic act. A mechanic runs out to one of the American planes on deck and uses the rear movable machine gun to try to stop it – he hits it, the plane veers off to one side and crashes into the sea. The carrier is spared.

First thought when you see stuff like that is that it is just Hollywood – but apparently it really happened. His name was Bruno Gaido.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 3, 2022 10:46 am

Other People’s Money Party.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 3, 2022 10:48 am

H B Bearsays:

May 3, 2022 at 10:37 am

Blast from the past: Slow Bern aka Bernie Fraser on ALPBC radio Perth.

Thaaaar …. Sooooper … oooof … thaaaar … foooooture.
Weekend at Bernie’s.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 3, 2022 10:51 am

A few points about last night’s Boeing vs Airbus discussion:
The Boeing 777 was also designed and flown before the McDD takeover. It is a great aircraft.
The 737 Max was result of airlines demanding a new aircraft with the more fuel efficient engines ASAP. An all new design would have taken too long and Boeing would have lost customers. Airbus did the A320/321 NEO with the new engines and were lucky in that the design had longer landing gear so didn’t have any ground clearance problems. It did however have a problem similar to the 737 MAX in that a late go round would perhaps require “more than normal pilot skill” (pitch up). There was an airworthiness directive and the problem was eventually fixed in software. However the aircraft flew for months before this was applied and there were no groundings.
The 737 MAX problem was that at high angles of attack FLAPS UP the stick force as you pulled back didn’t keep increasing at the rate it ought to. This wasn’t a part of the flight envelope an airline operation should ever get into. To get around this the MCAS system was installed which trimmed the stabiliser nose up i.e “down trim” which meant that the pull force on the stick increased to maintain the attitude. MCAS was the fifth system that could trim the elevator automatically. Besides the switches on the wheel for manual trimming there were the manual trim wheels which rotate as the aircraft trims itself or you can rotate them manually. You can stop the automatic trimming (makes coffee grinder sounds), including MCAS, by either holding on to the trim wheel or hitting the two trim disconnect switches which are at the back of the center console. This is a memory item in case there is ANY trim runaway for whatever cause in ANY 737 models. Note MCAS is disabled with flaps down for takeoff and landing and no, the 737 MAX was not always nearly stalling after takeoff.
Self certification by established manufacturers is the norm in the US. There is a certification team in the company which goes through the design and test results to make sure the aircraft complies. The FAA has a problem in that smart competent engineers usually work for the companies, not the FAA.
The greatest difference between Airbus and Boeing cockpit design is that Airbus won’t let you break or put a permanent set on the aircraft by overstressing it. Boeing lets you do that, which is nice if you are trying to avoid hitting terrain or other aircraft in an emergency.
As for the business aspects of Boeing it is an ongoing train wreck at present. There are manufacturing issues with the 787 and the 777X is delayed. The space and military side (around half the company IIRC) has some issues also. The Starliner capsule to fly people to the ISS is delayed firstly due to software issues uncovered on the first unmanned test flight where they were lucky not to lose the vehicle and on the second attempt a bunch of valves in the attitude control system stuck shut due to corrosion. This is old and well understood tech and should not have happened. They got 4.2 billion for the NASA contract and SpaceX got 2.6 billion and their capsule is making multiple flights delivering people to the ISS and bringing them back.
I’m glad I didn’t buy Boeing shares a few years ago.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 3, 2022 10:51 am

First thought when you see stuff like that is that it is just Hollywood – but apparently it really happened. His name was Bruno Gaido.

Bruno Gaido was subsequently shot down and taken prisoner by the Japanese. Refusing to “talk” under torture, he and his crewman were weighted down with a bucket of stones, and thrown overboard to drown.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 3, 2022 10:54 am

Hans-Joachim Marseille. There’s a nice little black and white 1957 movie “Der Stern von Afrika” on youtube. Watched it a few weeks ago.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 3, 2022 11:02 am

The transformation of Albanese as a political leader has been the most extraordinary in Australian history.

Crikey.
There’s most of the morning mug of McWilliams Royal Reserve over the screen.

The most extraordinary thing is that the little bloke has lasted long enough to have a dig. The Rudd Rules and deeply unelectable contenders probably helped him.

Zipster
Zipster
May 3, 2022 11:05 am

They did it again!

Paul Joseph Watson

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 3, 2022 11:08 am

The assured stupidity of this new order apparatchik is quite something.

“As a result, we’re working with countries to think about natural solutions like manure and compost, and this may hasten transitions that would have been in the interest of farmers to make eventually, anyway. So, never let a crisis go to waste,” Power said.

Western countries mostly abandoned manures a hundred years ago. The abundant production created by man made fertilisers partly underpinned the industrial and technological growth of the past century.
We simply cannot feed enough people on shit and straw.
This lady needs to identify which few billion people she’s earmarked as “crisis waste .”
Good fertiliser if composted.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 3, 2022 11:09 am

dover0beach says:
May 3, 2022 at 10:47 am

Looking at goggle maps, off-roading in the vicinity of the bridge would be… …interesting.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 3, 2022 11:10 am

History rhymes.

Bit of a bridge war going on right now. Initially the UKRs were the only ones blowing bridges as the RUS side wanted to use them. Now RUS is also blowing bridges, especially on the UKR supply routes to the east and south east. UKR in turn has now started blowing up bridges inside Russia. Not a good time to be a bridge.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 3, 2022 11:14 am

Draft SCOTUS ruling leaked.
Unbelievable.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 3, 2022 11:19 am

Allow me to just question the phrasing here.

The 737 Max was result of airlines demanding a new aircraft with the more fuel efficient engines ASAP. An all new design would have taken too long and Boeing would have lost customers.

Boeing was caught on the hop by demands for more fuel efficiency?
Really?
Airlines have been demanding more fuel efficiency since forever. Because it not only decreases operating costs, it increases range.
If Boeing was surprised by that they are in the wrong business.

Airbus did the A320/321 NEO with the new engines and were lucky in that the design had longer landing gear so didn’t have any ground clearance problems. 

Lucky?
They were lucky that they happened to randomly choose a particular ground clearance height?
I would call it good design. It not only avoids the 737 MAX problems, it reduces the chance of sucking up FOD.
I am not buying this bullshit of Boeing being ruined by MD accountants and administrators.
It is actually their dinosaur engineers who fucked up.
Old school types who simply didn’t understand the real world impacts of what their software coding colleagues were up to.
As for the accidents being a result of poor third world training, riddle me this.
Why did US pilots ban flying in them and call them death-traps?
Another old Boeing line.
Blame the dead pilot.
All the better if we can throw a bit of wink-nudge racism in as well.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 3, 2022 11:21 am

Tender just out from the NT Government:

Tender Number
Q22-0132
Title
Darwin – Review and Reform Legislative Provisions within the Justice System that are Unfair, Discriminatory or Detrimental to Aboriginal people
Description
Review the Northern Territory Bail Act 1982, Sentencing Act 1995, Juries Act 1962 and Parole Act 1971 to address and resolve areas within the legislation that are found to be unfair, discriminatory or detrimental to Aboriginal people.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 3, 2022 11:25 am

Draft SCOTUS ruling leaked.

Is that the one which was 9-0 on Christians flying a flag?
I just about fell out of my chair.
Three lefty justices voted for Christian freedom of speech. Amazing.

Supreme Court Backs Christian Group in Boston Flag Flap (2 May)

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 3, 2022 11:26 am

Do Russians Blame AMERICA For what is happening in UKRAINE ? // Public Interview

Ukrainian?
I thought they didn’t exist and it’s only a breakaway Russian state.
Very confusing.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 3, 2022 11:29 am

Alito’s draft ruling on Roe & Casey has been leaked.
Allegedly withdrawing both.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 3, 2022 11:32 am

Trying an experiment once again in the airports and associated bits, such as the actual planes themselves.

Flying Hobart-Canberra in two sectors. Flights spread apart due to having to use up credits. How far can TE get before being told to wear a mask?
1. Hobart Airport – free and not annoyed through checkin.
2. free and not annoyed through security.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 3, 2022 11:34 am

If true, it will be fascinating to see the legislation in a lot of states get triggered.
Some of these abortion acts pending Roe being withdrawn have been on the books for over 20 years.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 3, 2022 11:36 am

Interest rate falls -“good economic management”
Interest rate rises – “independent Reserve Bank”

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 3, 2022 11:36 am

It’s seems odd that legislation can be on the books for 20 years that gets triggered based on a SCOTUS decision.
You’d have to think some of that legislation would be challenged in each of the states.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 3, 2022 11:39 am

Interesting article via Maj Gen Ryan:

Taiwan aims to learn lessons of Ukraine in annual military drills (Reuters, 26 Apr)

TAIPEI, April 26 (Reuters) – Taiwan will incorporate lessons learned from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine into upcoming military exercises aimed at practising fighting off a Chinese attack, the island’s defence ministry said on Tuesday.

The defence ministry said this year’s Han Kuang exercises, Taiwan’s largest annual war games, would be split into two parts, in May and July.

The May part would partly be a tabletop exercise based on “various possible actions of the Chinese Communist Party in recent years to invade Taiwan, taking into account the lessons of the Russian-Ukrainian war”, it said in a statement.

There will also be five days of drills with soldiers, including live-fire exercises that will take place in July, the ministry added.The defence ministry said this year’s Han Kuang exercises, Taiwan’s largest annual war games, would be split into two parts, in May and July.

The May part would partly be a tabletop exercise based on “various possible actions of the Chinese Communist Party in recent years to invade Taiwan, taking into account the lessons of the Russian-Ukrainian war”, it said in a statement.

There will also be five days of drills with soldiers, including live-fire exercises that will take place in July, the ministry added.

Confirms what we all thought, which is that the Taiwanese have been watching the Ukraine fight very closely. That’s bad news for Mr Xi and his PLA guys. And doubly bad news for him in particular since the Chinese harvest is apparently terrible, and Beijing is being turned into a Covid gulag. A squirrel would be welcome right now, but the most obvious one has just grown longer fangs.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 3, 2022 11:43 am

Oops, apology, I double-tapped Ctl-P for the quote and didn’t notice. The echo is me, not the Taiwanese.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 3, 2022 11:44 am

DB, see the SCOTUS news?

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 3, 2022 11:44 am

Alito does not hold back.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 3, 2022 11:44 am

I’ve read an account of a USN carrier pilot, who set a record by shooting down five Zeros in one mission.

Mind you, Zulu, that was likely on his own account. Once you go and examine the records from the other side – and this seems to be the case in all air forces in WWI/II – then the claims diminish, often by large amounts.

For example:

5 April 1942

The following day, 5 April, an attack was made on the Darwin RAAF Station by seven G4M1 Bettys of Takao Ku. Led by Lieutenant Takeji Fujiwara, with nine A6M2 Zeroes of 3 Ku led by Lieutenant Sada-o Yamaguchi, the formation departed Koepang at 0900.

Armed with 84 x 60kg bombs the bombers approached the target at 1150 and two minutes later released 5,040kg of bombs from 24,000 feet, causing only slight damage to the main runway.

The Japanese force was intercepted by four USAAF P-40s of the 9th Pursuit Squadron at 1155 with no losses on either side, although the bomber crews claimed to have destroyed five aircraft. The Bettys landed back at Koepang at 1420, followed by the Zeroes at 1445.

Link

Struth
May 3, 2022 11:50 am
Roger
Roger
May 3, 2022 11:51 am

Review the Northern Territory Bail Act 1982, Sentencing Act 1995, Juries Act 1962 and Parole Act 1971 to address and resolve areas within the legislation that are found to be unfair, discriminatory or detrimental to Aboriginal people.

Talk about begging the question!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 3, 2022 11:56 am

Once you go and examine the records from the other side – and this seems to be the case in all air forces in WWI/II – then the claims diminish, often by large amounts.

TE – The Japanese especially seemed to embellish in their internal reports. Some examples were included in Long et al for the PNG campaigns from Japanese infantry sources obtained after the war. They were a lot of fun, but had zero resemblance to reality.

Same issue is probably afflicting senior officers on both sides of the Ukraine war. If junior officers are scared they’ll tend to write what their boss wants to hear, not what really happened.

It’s a serious danger for us with the wokeification of the Australian brass, and the persecution of guys like BRS. Who’d dare to accurately tell it like it is now?

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 3, 2022 12:03 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
May 3, 2022 at 10:28 am
Bong once attacked a flight of 7 zero’s by himself after having become separated from his wingman.

I don’t have a reference, but I’ve read an account of a USN carrier pilot, who set a record by shooting down five Zeros in one mission. That record lasted forty five minutes, before some spoilsport landed, having shot down seven Zeros..

IIRC, that was part of the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot. By that stage of the war, Japanese pilots were not of the original standards of 1941.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 3, 2022 12:09 pm

I dunno Bruce, check this one out from 25 April 1942 over northern Australia:

P-40 USAAF pilots claimed ten bombers and three Zeroes, which were all credited.

There were in fact four Betty bombers shot down.

(Link as above)

Kneel
Kneel
May 3, 2022 12:15 pm

“There’s certainly no shortage of bullshit coming out of Washington.”

Washington DC was built on a fetid swamp.
The stench has only increased, it’s only the source that has changed – previously it was mostly single celled organisms spewing forth methane etc. Now it’s politicians spewing forth their “policies” and bureaucrats spewing out their rules and regulations. At least the prior residents performed a useful function…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 3, 2022 12:16 pm

Both sides TE. I’d go find the text from the AWM history but I read it a few weeks ago and I’d probably have to scan though hundreds of pages to find it again.

I’d back the Allied reports more than the Japanese reports though, since being asked to slice open one’s belly button for the Emperor due to a poorly-received combat report would ruin your whole day.

Kneel
Kneel
May 3, 2022 12:35 pm

“Every single “moderate” Boomer lib I know dismissed that the trans kid fad was real and denied that it was a mainstream view on the Left.”

The leftie elite are wont to say “It’s not happening – but it’s good that it is”.
Censorship.
Transgender for kids without parental permission or knowledge.
You name it.

Winston Smith
May 3, 2022 1:12 pm

ZK2A:
Let your missus know “Good luck” from me as well.

Winston Smith
May 3, 2022 1:24 pm

Rex Anger:

That the shells shattered or failed to detonate on impact is a divine blessing. Or severely statistically unlikely but fortunate outcome, depending on how you swing. But perhaps not a very favourable assessment of the Russian logistics train to the point of firing, or its munitions manufacturers or the storage and handling procedures employed up to the moment the breechblock clanged shut and the primer ignited.

I haven’t seen any photos of the dud shots, but could it be a mix of HE and solid shot?

Winston Smith
May 3, 2022 2:07 pm

Eyrie:

BoN, sailing the Russian Space Station modules over to the Chinese one has a major problem. Orbital inclination differs by 10 degrees or so. You need to find over 1 km/sec of Delta V. That would require a substantial rocket stage.

Not a problem, Eyrie.
Just look behind the lounge chair/lift the cushions.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 3, 2022 4:43 pm

And you know I used to show you respect.
I haven’t changed Lizzie.

Struth, I had thought you were a natural gentleman.
On current performance towards me, you are not.

You seem unable to comprehend the nuanced perspectives of the majority on the centre-right.
That means, in my eyes, you are a failure in life, forcing your views on unwilling others.

You and your seven upticking friends are no friends of mine. Nor of liberty.

I hope you can one day refind the man I once admired for the Convoy and his life’s experiences.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 3, 2022 5:16 pm

Good morning from here. We are in a C15th inn at St. Albans, with appropriately creaking flooring, opposite the Cathedral, and spent yesterday taking in the wonders of that great House of God. The site is recognised as the oldest site of Christian worship in Britain, for a church of some type has stood here since St. Alban was martyred in this place in the late third or early fourth century AD in the period prior to the Emperor Constantine’s Edict of Toleration of Christians. St. Germanus visited here in 429AD, to missionize the lapsing Christians and bring others into the fold, a mission both Bede in the C8th and I in the C21st identify as the defining feature of historical record about the C5th, albeit that we each do so for different reasons.

Immediately after the Norman Conquest the church here was rebuilt into a grand form, using Roman stonework and bricks dragged up the hill from the Roman fort and town of Verulamium, turning this material into a magnificent early Norman tower, still extant today, with its curved stripe-painted arches architecturally reminiscent of Cordoba’s Great Mosque. One side of the original nave also has these arches, on the supporting columns of which have been recovered from under Puritan whitewash a series of C12th paintings of biblical events. The other side of the original nave fell in on parishioners during a mass in the C14th and was rebuilt, along with an extension of the nave, in a more formal Romanesque style, with fluted columns. The whole place is sonorous and sombre with a later rose window a significant feature also.

It became even more sonorous as we sat there admiring, for the Evensong Choir set up its practice and the great organ filled the whole place with glorious sound as voices also rose heavenwards singing the Magnificat. They then shifted to a psalm sung alternately in antiphony (as ex-chorister Hairy explained to me) and we both knew it as the “I lift up mine eyes to the heavens” psalm. Quite wonderful. As we walked around the cathedral following the Pilgrim’s Walk, a medieval ancient wood structure caught my eye, double story with shutters, called The Watching Loft. It was where monks were stationed on duty to make sure the pilgrims were well behaved and didn’t try to steal chunks of anything as early ‘souvenirs’, in this case as healing talismans. Early Security Detail, offers Hairy helpfully, making me laugh at the thought of it. It pleases me to see him so happy in his 70th year as his birthday approaches, so much enjoying old haunts and old friendships. He revealed to me that when aged nine he had done a school project on the architecture at St. Albans after a school visit there.

We walked down to the river, saw the birds on the lake and looked at the last ruins of the old Roman town wall that had enclosed Verulamium, one of the towns destroyed by Boudicca’s revolt and later rebuilt. There is not much else to see now but footings, as most of it is in the cathedral on the hill, so laboriously wheelbarrowed up by a conquered peasantry. We will drive to the museum on the other side of the site this morning before heading up to my friend’s place to stay there in Saffron Walden.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 3, 2022 5:23 pm

On reflection and dredging memory, I think those eyes lift up to the hills, not the heavens.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 3, 2022 5:53 pm

On the way to the lake we called in at what is locally claimed to be Britain’s longest-established tavern, called Ye Olde Fighting Cocks, recommended by the hotel for dinner (and a great name for Catallaxy nites in the War Room). A tavern of sorts has been here since 793 (according to the footings) but other claimants to the ‘oldest’ title also exist. I like to think of Bernard Cornwell’s fictional Uhtred and his men taking a tankard here in King Alfred’s day on the tables by the river, I comment to Hairy as we enter.

The current building is more Tudor in style and Cromwell the Protector is claimed to have stabled his horse in what is now the bar area. Sadly, they were closed for dinner, so we repaired to a huge glassed conservatory near our hotel that is a glower-filled French restaurant, where when you enter down the long avenue of tables you see sparkling at the end a ten foot high wide mirrored bar, containing bottles and glasses for drinks of all sorts. We had proper French soup, biftek and poulet, and very fine it was too. As with Hairy’s redolent trip to Hamstead, where much of Ricky Gervais’ ‘After Life’ series were filmed, this pub also featured in one of the ‘After Life’ series.

Our own pub, The White Hart, is mentioned as serving pilgrims in the C14th, and so I led in bed wondering who in the past slept in this room, looking up at some of its exposed beams in the plaster and creaking to the loo on its noisy floors (probably a bucket in those days). No old ghosts appeared though and I slept well, in spite of the rather lumpy pillows (this is Britain) and the sad worn out furniture that I would toss as they are by no means antique pieces. The room is otherwise of a tourist standard with a good ensuite, but be warned. I also had to remove the ‘atomic’ doona (H/t Calli) from its casing and just use that as a covering sheet with a light quilt (which imho had seen better days) that was thankfully also on the end of the bed.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 3, 2022 5:57 pm

that is a ‘flower-filled’ French restaurant.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 3, 2022 6:06 pm

White Hart is now basically Tudor but some older parts are still within it.

rickw
rickw
May 3, 2022 6:10 pm

Is this real or a pisstake? I can’t tell anyone.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ccampbellbased/status/1520525721415860229

JC
JC
May 3, 2022 6:15 pm

It’s a huge pisstake, but he didn’t carry very well. He was too out there.

rickw
rickw
May 3, 2022 6:18 pm

I slept well, in spite of the rather lumpy pillows (this is Britain) and the sad worn out furniture that I would toss as they are by no means antique pieces.

Do they have hot water?! That’s always the other big challenge. I had 5 days straight of cold showers mid winter in Dorking. I was starting to get a bit grumpy by the end of it.

rickw
rickw
May 3, 2022 6:20 pm

It’s a huge pisstake, but he didn’t carry very well. He was too out there.

I think he does it on a serial basis? He looks familiar.

rickw
rickw
May 3, 2022 6:27 pm

There were in fact four Betty bombers shot down.

The Betty’s became known as “one shot lighters”. Good range with large fuel volume and no self sealing tanks.

Old bloke
Old bloke
May 3, 2022 7:39 pm

Winston Smith says:
May 3, 2022 at 1:12 pm

ZK2A:
Let your missus know “Good luck” from me as well.

What has he done with his missus, brought wife number 3 home unannounced?

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