Open Thread – Tuesday 10 May 2022


The (Little) Tower of Babel, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1563

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Eyrie
Eyrie
May 11, 2022 8:47 pm

BoN, the CO2 is all around. Last I heard the human race had built rather a large number of efficient axial compressors. These are engineering problems and with enough energy do have solutions.
I would not be surprised if fuel for local Martian use is CO +O2 in some cases. Drive rovers etc. Ch4/O2 is also good. H2 +O2 would work but hydrogen is bastard stuff to store. Even on Mars. 245K against 288 on Earth when LH2 is at 20K doesn’t make a hell of a lot of difference.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 11, 2022 8:47 pm

m0ntysays:
May 11, 2022 at 8:21 pm
Why would I want to learn about a dead industry?

The future is fantasy footie, don’cha know.

munty will be cold in his grave, and solar will still not fully power the world.

DaFisk
DaFisk
May 11, 2022 8:47 pm

Finland expected to begin process of joining Nato this week – BBC News

That’s right, Zipster. Exhibit A for why Putin’s war has been a total catastrophe for Russia – start a war (allegedly) to deter “NATO expansionism”, get another 800 miles of border with NATO!

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 8:48 pm

I think Elon would be better off having a hydrogen burning local launcher or a nuke one like the Russians have been testing.

It’s always good to see the best engineer in the world receiving advice from the best engineer in the world.

Pity he never took either Fester and Hallward’s advice on battery technology. It’s shit.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 11, 2022 8:49 pm

Edwinasays:
May 11, 2022 at 8:31 pm

I doubt anyone on this site except m0nty disagrees with your comments about voting.
Nor with the hypothetical proposition that if everyone had refused to obey them the government wouldn’t have been able to enforce the oppression. But it didn’t happen and it was never going to.

So what people are saying about struth is that he’s wasting his time screaming hysterical abuse at people for things that can’t be changed, failing to make any feasible suggestions as to what should be done now (other than about voting, on which people here pretty much all agree anyway), and alienating people who in fact largely agree with him and might be persuaded to take his advice if he had any plausible advice to give.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 11, 2022 8:50 pm

My suspicion is that we have seen the last federal majority government.

munty the wrongologist has made his prediction. Look for the next federal government have a majority of at least six seats.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 8:53 pm

I’m excitedly awaiting a reply.

@elonmusk Hey Elon, Uncle Fester and Hallward Hughes, at the Catallaxy blog, reckon your battery technology and innovation “is shit”. They are self-recognized as the best engineers in the solar system and you should listen to these two geniuses.

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2022 8:54 pm

m0ntysays:
May 11, 2022 at 7:23 pm
What’s the reason for turning up now?

There’s a federal election on. Things could change. You blokes hate change, and I love watching you chewing wasps about it.

No.

We love change.

Boot the Nazi Andrews C**t.
Restore civil liberties.
Punt corrupt C**TS like Andrews, Gunner & Berejiklian – send em down the river for a few years
Pay off the crippling government debt that can financially ruin us as a nation.
Stop publicly financing losers like the major parties, Manildra and “clean” energy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 11, 2022 8:56 pm

These are engineering problems and with enough energy do have solutions.

Yes, except the solution he’s proposing won’t work. So it isn’t a solution. But the engineering companies will have fun playing with it since it is so complex and fiddly, and will love using up lots of SpaceX’s money for about ten years before they find out that it doesn’t work. It’ll keep a lot of people in employment.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 11, 2022 8:57 pm

Cassie

I’d hazard a good guess that Princess Allegra, who I know a little about, has never travelled west of Pyrmont.

Did you look at that article in Quadrant On-Line?

miltonf
miltonf
May 11, 2022 8:58 pm

Monty does give a good example of the spite and malice of the left. The reveling in the imagined discomfort of ‘class enemies’ who may in fact be working class.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2022 8:58 pm

Did you look at that article in Quadrant On-Line?

Interesting reading….

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 8:59 pm

My bad, got the number wrong, Australian CEO pay was actually up 24% last year.

https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/leaders/revealed-australia-s-50-highest-paid-ceos-20211117-p599rf

Anyone bleating about a wage-price spiral has to explain why CEOs can fatten themselves like pigs while workers get bugger all.

rickw
rickw
May 11, 2022 9:00 pm

Why would I want to learn about a dead industry?

Not planning on having any steel in your kids future. Well done.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 11, 2022 9:01 pm

Bon, from your link to the Wiki:
“A variation of the basic Sabatier methanation reaction may be used via a mixed catalyst bed and a reverse water gas shift in a single reactor to produce methane from the raw materials available on Mars, utilising carbon dioxide in the Martian atmosphere. A 2011 prototype test operation that harvested CO2 from a simulated Martian atmosphere and reacted it with H2, produced methane rocket propellant at a rate of 1 kg/day, operating autonomously for 5 consecutive days, maintaining a nearly 100% conversion rate. An optimised system of this design massing 50 kg “is projected to produce 1 kg/day of O2:CH4 propellant … with a methane purity of 98+% while consuming ~17 kWh per day of electrical power (at a continuous power of 700 W). Overall unit conversion rate expected from the optimised system is one tonne of propellant per 17 MWh energy input.[24]”

rosie
rosie
May 11, 2022 9:01 pm

How many CEOs are there on your list, Monty?

Zipster
Zipster
May 11, 2022 9:01 pm

Anyone bleating about a wage-price spiral has to explain why CEOs can fatten themselves like pigs while workers get bugger all.

mirror mirror

rickw
rickw
May 11, 2022 9:02 pm

Anyone bleating about a wage-price spiral has to explain why CEOs can fatten themselves like pigs while workers get bugger all.

Only fucking Marxists care what CEO’s get paid. The focus should be on the governments fiscal wrecking of everyone else.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 11, 2022 9:02 pm

Anyone bleating about a wage-price spiral has to explain why CEOs can fatten themselves like pigs while workers get bugger all.

Maybe it’s the market. You still haven’t explained how you know wages are below equilibrium.

cohenite
May 11, 2022 9:03 pm

Speaking of H and H2O and batteries this is interesting:

SOR Announcement – Breakthrough in Generating Electricity from Moisture

Zipster
Zipster
May 11, 2022 9:04 pm

That’s right, Zipster. Exhibit A for why Putin’s war has been a total catastrophe for Russia – start a war (allegedly) to deter “NATO expansionism”, get another 800 miles of border with NATO!

what could possibly go wrong…. we are government by grotesque clowns

Zipster
Zipster
May 11, 2022 9:05 pm

Finland has an active military 12x smaller than UKR.

but nato has nukes

rosie
rosie
May 11, 2022 9:05 pm

Timothy
You left off
Were perfectly entitled to get vaccinated for any reason they saw fit.
And to go anywhere and do anything at any time as they liked.
Because freedom.

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 9:07 pm

Au contraire, I hope it is. I want a government like those in Italy, Belgian and Israel……always collapsing because of fallen deals and with independents walking. I’m over governments full stop…..the less the better.

Maybe. Can you imagine the Tory papers every day, they would go mental.

It would open the door for a demagogue like Berlusconi though. Clive would have a target rich environment.

Really, we should be looking at proportional representation models like in NZ. Not sure how we get to there from here.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 9:07 pm

Zipster says:
May 11, 2022 at 9:01 pm

Anyone bleating about a wage-price spiral has to explain why CEOs can fatten themselves like pigs while workers get bugger all.

mirror mirror

Inequality of this nature is a feature of the capitalist system. It’s not a bug , it’s a feature .I’m sorry to disappoint you fatboy, we maybe equal in the eyes of the law or in front of God, but we aren’t equal in terms of capabilities and intellect. A janitor is not paid as much as the CEO of Mac bank or BHP because he’s not as capable or economically important as these two examples. More importantly though, their compensation is determined by the market place and not through the government.

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2022 9:08 pm

Dickhead montell said 17 workers in coal mining in Australia.

Three years ago there was 54,000 – 56,000 coal miners and 21,000 – 29,000 thermal coal miners. DIRECTLY EMPLOYED.

Mining has the second highest inter-industry multiplier after agriculture. About 3.

So monty reckons 180,000 workers is about 17. Out by a factor of 10^4.

He’s got our best interests at heart.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 11, 2022 9:08 pm

WTF….talk about inflation. Primary votes in this election will receive $2.914 per eligible vote. Thats our money feeding there EGO.

rosie
rosie
May 11, 2022 9:08 pm

Bleating about ceo salaries is akin to bleating about company turnover, especially when you claim turnover equals profit.
I think Monty is trying to be the miserable ghost of numbers.
Profit is evil, unless it’s mine,
in which case it’s perfectly fine.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 9:10 pm

Good comment Dot. I guessed about 200,000 direct and indirect employed in the coal industry. And highly paid too.

miltonf
miltonf
May 11, 2022 9:10 pm

Deep down I think Monty is jealous of men in the coal mining industry- productive workers. Unlike him.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Anyone bleating about a wage-price spiral has to explain why CEOs can fatten themselves like pigs while workers get bugger all.

Never mind a couple of dozen CEO.

Now do restaurant or coffee shop owners in Danistan………… GO!

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 9:11 pm

Maybe it’s the market. You still haven’t explained how you know wages are below equilibrium.

That’s just ridiculous, Tim N. There are no fundamentals to justify a 24% annual increase in CEO wages. You just beclowned yourself.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2022 9:11 pm

Profit is evil, unless it’s mine,
in which case it’s perfectly fine.

There speaks your true champagne Socialist.

miltonf
miltonf
May 11, 2022 9:12 pm

WTF….talk about inflation. Primary votes in this election will receive $2.914 per eligible vote. Thats our money feeding there EGO.

unreal

Cassie of Sydney
May 11, 2022 9:12 pm

“Maybe. Can you imagine the Tory papers every day, they would go mental.”

What “Tory papers”? Are you now residing in the UK? We don’t have “Tory papers” here. There are no Tories in this country. Oh actually, perhaps you’re trying to mimic Albanese. Next thing you’ll be saying “I fight Tories, that’s what I do”.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Tell us Monty, how much money a coffee shop owner in Melbournibad is taking home, & how much they have sloshing around in their barrel of spare cash to pay to teenage girls to plonk coffee in front of you.

Go……………!

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2022 9:12 pm

Anyone bleating about a wage-price spiral has to explain why CEOs can fatten themselves like pigs while workers get bugger all.

…because it is a corollary of freedom, you fascist dropkick.

Go and get another job if you’re unhappy.

Not easy when the borders are shut and hospitality is shut down.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

M0nty, how much percent increase has the average small business operator increased their own wage?
Go……………!

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 9:14 pm

Three years ago there was 54,000 – 56,000 coal miners and 21,000 – 29,000 thermal coal miners. DIRECTLY EMPLOYED.

And over 600,000 directly employed in tourism. Try again.

Cassie of Sydney
May 11, 2022 9:16 pm

“JCsays:
May 11, 2022 at 8:46 pm
Excellent rant there Cassie.

It’s beyond impressive. Dover should get you to do rant threads.”

Thank you…..I do like a rant!

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2022 9:16 pm

Good comment Dot. I guessed about 200,000 direct and indirect employed in the coal industry. And highly paid too.

Paying a lot of tax, not getting handouts and supporting wives and kids… building communities.

Also don’t forget what mining exports did to our purchasing power since 2003.

monty reckons 1.5% of the private sector workforce on above average wages don’t matter.

This is just idiotic, suicidal and insane.

What other industries can we send to the breadline to fight the torries, comrades?

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 9:18 pm

Rosie

I believe that we should never walk away, cower nor make excuses for the high rates of income for anyone let alone CEOs. As I said, economic inequality is a feature of the capitalist system – the only system that has taken billions out of grinding poverty. There is nothing wrong with Musk, Gates or anyone else worth hundreds of billions compared to someone earning the median income of $60,000 a year. The system was meant to cause this sort of inequality. If CEOs earned lots more last year then good for them. It suggests they were considered capable.

It’s pretty incredible that the left is now critical of people selling their human capital to the highest bidder, but here we are.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 11, 2022 9:18 pm

Witnessed a little accident involving a truck and small blue car.

The truck turning left had swung out into a right turn lane and the blue car decided to take a left as well thinking the space on the inside of the truck looked good.

I doubt the truck even knew the car was there and so the rear tri’s popped front bumper nearly off and the wheel cap went for a roll.

I watched as an enraged woman chased the truck up the road with the bumper dragging on the road.

The bloke standing next to me commented “I don’t think the senior constable will see it her way.”

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 11, 2022 9:18 pm

I thought we had got rid of Numbers like trolls. Monty is worse.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2022 9:19 pm

Deep down I think Monty is jealous of men in the coal mining industry- productive workers. Unlike him.

Monty is just jealous of anyone who’s better off then he is, by achieving something.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 9:21 pm

There are no fundamentals to justify a 24% annual increase in CEO wages.

I demand your sell your services for 24% less. I want to see this immediately. It’s unconscionable otherwise.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 9:22 pm

Eyrie says:
May 11, 2022 at 9:18 pm

I thought we had got rid of Numbers like trolls. Monty is worse.

Here we go.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Men working in the coal industry get lots of sex.
I see this play out all the time.

“You’re a net-nerd, who plays Dungeons & Dragons? What did you say your job was… professional gamer…. ic……. ooooh… look over there, a coal miner… I’m going to fuck him tonight, he’ll be mine by the end of this month”

It happens almost exactly like that.

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2022 9:23 pm

LOL

Tourism figures are total bullshit.

A Victorian State Government employee travelling to Seymour to discuss COVID policy, stating overnight, is “tourism”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 11, 2022 9:24 pm

munty

Maybe. Can you imagine the Tory papers every day, they would go mental.

Why would English papers “go mental” over an Australian government?

Oh, sorry, you mean “Torrie” in the AnAl sense?

Zipster
Zipster
May 11, 2022 9:25 pm

what could possibly go wrong…. we are government by grotesque clowns

rubntug must be one of the most hideous harlequins to be foist on the australian public, what a repulsive satire of a man

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2022 9:26 pm

Err, staying.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 11, 2022 9:26 pm

m0ntysays:
May 11, 2022 at 9:11 pm
Maybe it’s the market. You still haven’t explained how you know wages are below equilibrium.

That’s just ridiculous, Tim N. There are no fundamentals to justify a 24% annual increase in CEO wages. You just beclowned yourself.

The “fundamentals” are the market m0nty. Labour is a commodity like any other and the market sets the price for particular types of labour. Why are you so certain that exec pay is now too high? If a 24% move is as obviously excessive as you believe it to be, mightn’t the explanation be that before then it was too low? [I’m not saying that’s the case – I’m just pointing out that you’re talking drivel unless you know exactly what exec remuneration should have been a year or so ago and should be now. I’ve already pointed out that the ASX rise in 2021 could well explain most of it. What makes you so sure there aren’t other factors? Full analysis, or apologies for conceit and stupidity.]

You still haven’t explained why you know wages are below equilibrium.

In fact, except in industries where over-award wages get paid (e.g. mining for most of the last several years), it’s pretty clear that award wages are virtually always at or even above equilibrium.
If you see an industry where people being offered award wages go to other employers who pay over the award, or just shift to other jobs entirely, that’s a sign that the award is below equilibrium – but of course that’s nothing to worry about because those people end up getting paid more than the award for that job.

Conversely, if you see an industry where people are willing to work for cash which on an after-tax basis is below the award (like the hospitality industry in the past – not necessarily now), that’s a sign that the award is above equilibrium.

If people are being underpaid, they are always at liberty to seek out an employer who appreciates their true worth. Or start their own business and reap all the rewards.

miltonf
miltonf
May 11, 2022 9:28 pm

Sounds like the fat turd is disseminating anal talking points. Maybe CEO remuneration is something anal headquarters think may give them some traction.

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2022 9:28 pm

Married and wholesome PewDiePie Chad vs the Virgin Coal Mining Sex Addict!

miltonf
miltonf
May 11, 2022 9:29 pm

Scomo’s bad, anal’s worse. So I won’t vote for either.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 11, 2022 9:29 pm

JC

There is nothing wrong with Musk, Gates or anyone else worth hundreds of billions compared to someone earning the median income of $60,000 a year. The system was meant to cause this sort of inequality. If CEOs earned lots more last year then good for them. It suggests they were considered capable.

Then we have idiots like Cannon-Brookes as the exceptions to prove the rule?

Luzu
May 11, 2022 9:30 pm

Custard,

I will be at the Perth March on Saturday.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 11, 2022 9:31 pm

JCsays:
May 11, 2022 at 9:21 pm
There are no fundamentals to justify a 24% annual increase in CEO wages.

I demand your sell your services for 24% less. I want to see this immediately. It’s unconscionable otherwise.

Is munty the CEO of his business? The one that is causing further casualisation of the workforce?

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 11, 2022 9:32 pm

Who would want to visit this shithole country? My Ukrainian neighbours flew rhe wife’s mother over here – she’s on some humanitarian visa now. Wants to go back asap – apparently war-torn Ukraine is better than here.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 11, 2022 9:34 pm

Eyrie – When you look up the reference all you get is that abstract, so I can’t see what exactly they are doing. I’m not stumping up a hundred US for the PDF.

If they’re putting in H2 from a cylinder and pre-prepared CO2 with the impurities from another cylinder, which is what it sounds like, that is easy. Now add the cryo systems for the products and the water mining and purification on the front end, the electrolysis stack and the ginormous gas collection compressor and see if it all works for more than 5 days. I tend to run a pilot plant for a month and it usually requires continual monitoring and repairs to failed bits and pieces. Add in the materials of construction, catalyst poisoning, dust issues, daily start up/shut down because solar electricity and it ain’t going to work. It’s too complex and too many bits can go wrong. Just the scaling up phase introduces a whole bunch of issues from the square cube law.

FWIW this is similar to my concerns about the MSTR. The plans and pilot work are fine, but real world operation is a struggle with Murphy. And to do that in a severe environment is bloody hard.

Cassie of Sydney
May 11, 2022 9:34 pm

“I thought we had got rid of Numbers like trolls. Monty is worse.”

No.

rickw
rickw
May 11, 2022 9:36 pm

Victoria’s new Gestapo training facility:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV2Ky_c49m8

miltonf
miltonf
May 11, 2022 9:36 pm

Who would want to visit this shithole country?

it’s actually a rather lovely place- visited some beaut towns in western Vicco last weekend.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 11, 2022 9:37 pm

BoN, earlier:

(1200 x 1000 / 29) x 24.5 / 1000 = 1014 m^3/s

Obviously.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 11, 2022 9:37 pm

Oh, sure. It looks nice, but it’s overrun with sheep.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 11, 2022 9:40 pm

Sal, at 7.49:

Does anybody know if Coal mining expert M0nty has ever been to a mine? Or to a mining district?

Fitzroy is a mining district. Plenty of gold diggers there.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 9:40 pm

Then we have idiots like Cannon-Brookes as the exceptions to prove the rule?

Not really B John. Dickhead is worth now (hahaha) A$10 billion because that’s what the market values dickhead’s share in the firm. That’s different to income.

The fat lesbian was complaining about CEO’s who haven’t founded the company receiving compensation increases. Income and net worth aren’t the same thing.

As for the two bobbsey twins at Atlassian… The market is now in the process of correcting their net worth. 🙂

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 9:40 pm

The “fundamentals” are the market m0nty.

Bulldust, Tim N. The “market” in this case is an old mates club who dominate corporate boards and vote each other massive pay increases. It’s a racket, not a market. Australia is not big enough for it to be a truly competitive market.

The lie to your argument is that when the ASX is falling, Australian CEOs don’t get massive pay cuts, or have to pay back their previous earnings. Executive pay is fuelled by the stock market rise but not constrained by it in any way.

Your logic is fallacious: question begging at its most simple.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Oh, sure. It looks nice, but it’s overrun with sheep.

… and the problem is….?

rosie
rosie
May 11, 2022 9:41 pm

I’m sorry Monty
What is the relevance of citing tourism employment numbers vis à vis mining employment numbers?
Oh you’re still pretending mining impacts tourism because climate blah blah.
I suppose you envisage a future in which international tourists arrive on wind powered planes and solar powered cruise ships.
Meanwhile your teal buddies think the great unwashed should stay home, and compete for two weeks at a Butlins while only teal types should be able to travel internationally.
In other words the tourism industry had also got to go, because environment.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 11, 2022 9:42 pm

Monty thinks like a lot of Aussie workers,…’CEO’s and company exe’s are earning more than me . I want more to.’ Teachers on strike for more. Ambo’s, Nurses , Child care . People demanding a wage high enough to afford a house and car after leaving Uni. Australians are spoilt brats .

rosie
rosie
May 11, 2022 9:42 pm

Not Queensland though.
The weather is atrocious.
Wind and rain, alternating with rain and wind.

miltonf
miltonf
May 11, 2022 9:43 pm

My Ukrainian neighbours flew rhe wife’s mother over here – she’s on some humanitarian visa now. Wants to go back asap – apparently war-torn Ukraine is better than here.

So will they go back there too?

rosie
rosie
May 11, 2022 9:43 pm

Trader
All your examples are risk adverse public servants.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 11, 2022 9:44 pm

KD – 1200 is the kg/s of air the engine produces on take off (from that link), 1000 is grams/kg, 29 is about the molecular weight of air in g/mole (N2 28, O2 32), 24.5 is L/mole at 25 C, 1000 is L/m^3 which gets you the volume of air in m^3/s. But you knew that.

rickw
rickw
May 11, 2022 9:45 pm

Imagine how deranged and sick you need to be to coerce people, by any and all means, to accept an experimental therapy.

We are governed by people like this.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 11, 2022 9:45 pm

Boambee Johnsays:
May 11, 2022 at 9:29 pm

[JC

There is nothing wrong with Musk, Gates or anyone else worth hundreds of billions compared to someone earning the median income of $60,000 a year. The system was meant to cause this sort of inequality. If CEOs earned lots more last year then good for them. It suggests they were considered capable.]
Then we have idiots like Cannon-Brookes as the exceptions to prove the rule?

Yes, but that’s just a function of the market as well.
We have it on good authority that “a fool and his money are soon parted”. People plough money into some spiv’s racket, then lose it.* More capable people make better decisions and accumulate wealth. But, yes, some money does end up with people who aren’t fools but aren’t doing much that’s useful either.

* That’s why Warren Buffet advised people not to invest in things they don’t understand, and that if they really don’t know much about the economy and markets, just invest long term in an index fund.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 11, 2022 9:45 pm

I doubt the truck even knew the car was there and so the rear tri’s popped front bumper nearly off and the wheel cap went for a roll.

Probably something related to those signs on truck mudflaps.

rosie
rosie
May 11, 2022 9:45 pm

At least Monty is a comedian.

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 9:46 pm

Monty thinks like a lot of Aussie workers,…’CEO’s and company exe’s are earning more than me . I want more to.’ Teachers on strike for more. Ambo’s, Nurses , Child care . People demanding a wage high enough to afford a house and car after leaving Uni. Australians are spoilt brats .

Bloody hell, young people wanting to afford a house with a decent wage? Rampant communism!!

You people are hard to parody, you do such a good job of it yourselves.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 11, 2022 9:46 pm

1200 is the kg/s of air the engine produces on take off (from that link), 1000 is grams/kg, 29 is about the molecular weight of air in g/mole (N2 28, O2 32), 24.5 is L/mole at 25 C, 1000 is L/m^3 which gets you the volume of air in m^3/s. But you knew that.

Well, yeah. Who wouldn’t?

Geez.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 11, 2022 9:47 pm

Rosie…you get my drift. It happens in private companies too but there not news worthy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 11, 2022 9:47 pm

Sorry KD. Eyrie is in the business so I assumed he’d want to know I was doing the right sums and would know what each term would be.

rickw
rickw
May 11, 2022 9:47 pm

Wants to go back asap – apparently war-torn Ukraine is better than here.

It’s post Dickhead Dan Melbourne in winter, the bar is low.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 11, 2022 9:48 pm

Bloody hell, young people wanting to afford a house with a decent wage? Rampant communism!!

He murmured, eyeing the Jeremy Corbyn poster on his wall.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2022 9:49 pm

Bloody hell, young people wanting to afford a house with a decent wage? Rampant communism!!

Easily done – move out of Sydney or Melbourne.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 9:50 pm

For growth companies or supposed real growth companies, the US stock market generally values them on the stock price/sales metric instead of stock price to earnings for mature companies. Price to sales was generally around 40 times plus before the correction in the tech growth sector. If the tech crash is any guide we’re making our way back to 10 times. This means that Atlassian was trading at 60 times to sales at its peak will make it’s lower. At the very least the stock could half again as long as they maintain current sales. A big if. Personally, I would be shocked if they trade 90% down from their peak unless the firm is sold beforehand.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 11, 2022 9:50 pm

Finland has an active military 12x smaller than UKR.
And 1/8 the population
with an economy based on lichen.

rickw
rickw
May 11, 2022 9:50 pm

Bloody hell, young people wanting to afford a house with a decent wage? Rampant communism!!

Young people have almost universally been fucked by your mates in planning departments creating an artificial shortage that has been decades in the making.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 11, 2022 9:51 pm

Sorry KD. Eyrie is in the business so I assumed he’d want to know I was doing the right sums and would know what each term would be.

Seriously, all good. I thought everyone would know.

rickw
rickw
May 11, 2022 9:51 pm

He murmured, eyeing the Jeremy Corbyn poster on his wall.

I think he was doing more than eyeing it….

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 9:52 pm

Meanwhile your teal buddies think the great unwashed should stay home, and compete for two weeks at a Butlins while only teal types should be able to travel internationally.

There is a lot of rubbish being projected onto the teal ladies, rosie. They are an unknown quantity to some extent. It’s not as if they came out of nowhere though, they are the people who under normal circumstances would be inside the Liberal Party as classic wets. They are most likely to vote with the LNP except on climate change issues.

Maybe the process of radicalising them to run as independents has changed them on certain issues. Only they know for sure how they would act once in office, because they’re not letting on. It will be fun finding out, as they are likely to make the Liberals go spare.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 9:53 pm

The lie to your argument is that when the ASX is falling, Australian CEOs don’t get massive pay cuts,

No, but a large number get fired.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 11, 2022 9:54 pm

Australia is not big enough for it to be a truly competitive market.

Brian Gilbertson, Chip Goodyear and Marius Kloppers.
Do those names ring a bell m0nty?
Or Don Mercer and John McFarlane?
Or think about the converse – James Gorman, Jacques Nasser.
“Australia” isn’t the market. The world is the market.

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 9:55 pm

No, but a large number get fired.

With humongous golden parachutes.

Cassie of Sydney
May 11, 2022 9:56 pm

“Did you look at that article in Quadrant On-Line?”

Just read it. I know that area like the back of my hand. I know where Allegra lives.

There’s a reason why I call her Princess Allegra…she’s the personification of “do as I say, not as I do”….a total hypocrite and fraud.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 11, 2022 9:57 pm

m0ntysays:
May 11, 2022 at 9:40 pm
The “fundamentals” are the market m0nty.

Bulldust, Tim N. The “market” in this case is an old mates club who dominate corporate boards and vote each other massive pay increases.

But enough about the cabal of Labor Party hacks who are routinely gifted positions on the boards of industry super companies (and the previous Liars government stopped any idea of making their remuneration public). A true old maaaaaates club.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:00 pm

With humongous golden parachutes.

It’s mostly what they have accumulated as part of long term comp derived from previous years.

Stop whining, the married public servant fucking some senior dudes received a load of cash for I’m not sure what.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 11, 2022 10:00 pm

There goes the neighbourhood. Monty is back. Nothing but a troll.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The Teals are rich white bitches who’ve never been west of Strathfield.

MatrixTransform
May 11, 2022 10:00 pm

Monty is here to gloat about a LGPERFORMINGTEAL

ah, rosie

freshly galvanised

you should last a few years more in the weather

Bar Beach Swimmer
May 11, 2022 10:01 pm

I ended up turning on the 7:30 Report tonight. Barnaby Joyce was on it. Though last year he asserted that the Govt was going to sign up to nett zero emissions by 2050 regardless of what the Nats did; tonight on the ABC he said that he traded off with Morrison nett zero for increased spending on infrastructure in the bush. WTF! What a duplicitous arsehole!

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2022 10:01 pm

Bloody hell, young people wanting to afford a house with a decent wage? Rampant communism!!

About the only good point monty has made all night.

It got worse after Gough got elected and we became a socialist country, monty.

The “nightmarish” 1950s and 1960s were family friendly. New housing construction now is taxed at over 80%. That should be a “hint”.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:02 pm

The Teals are rich white bitches who’ve never been west of Strathfield.

Lot’s of us haven’t. I wouldn’t hold that against them. I’ve never been to Foot es gray either.

Cassie of Sydney
May 11, 2022 10:02 pm

“There is a lot of rubbish being projected onto the teal ladies, rosie. They are an unknown quantity to some extent. It’s not as if they came out of nowhere though, they are the people who under normal circumstances would be inside the Liberal Party as classic wets. They are most likely to vote with the LNP except on climate change issues.”

Bulldust. Monty, you really need to do better than this. These “Teals” aren’t “unknown”. To state that under normal circumstances they’d be Liberal Party wets is laughable…maybe…just maybe the only “Teal” who might fit that label is Spender. As for Zoe Daniel, Jo Dyer, Monique Ryan, they’re far left progressive Greens and Ryan was a member of the Labor party. You really need to try harder.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 11, 2022 10:04 pm

Bloody hell, young people wanting to afford a house with a decent wage? Rampant communism!!

They’re in luck. Looking at prices around my area, apartments in inner Melbourne are sliding in price. They can get in at the lower end of the market, work, earn, save, pay off the loan for that and then move on to something closer to their dreams.

Hmm, now that I put it that way, it sounds sort of familiar. I wonder if I know anyone who actually did that in the past…

Or they can cast off the shackles of the ghastly job where they’re being paid way less than they’re worth, and get a more suitably paid job.*
Or maybe even both at the same time.

(*Or start their own business where they’ll reap all the rewards of their talents and efforts, without the government in any way shape or form acting like a street mugger on them.)

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:07 pm

As for Zoe Daniel

If there’s ever a downside to capitalism, Zoeeeee Daniel is the face for dark side. The unfortunate downside to capitalism is that it creates enough surplus to allow the ABC to exist, which in turned hires worthless, layabout ragdolls like Zoeeee.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:08 pm

I went to Queens once.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Lot’s of us haven’t. I wouldn’t hold that against them.

You’re not hawking for votes & running for office alternative government.
I definitely hold it against them.

MatrixTransform
May 11, 2022 10:08 pm

Anyone bleating about a wage-price spiral has to explain why CEOs can fatten themselves like pigs while workers get bugger all

pareto

MatrixTransform
May 11, 2022 10:15 pm

see, the problem with marxists is that they gloss over the fact that for the most part there is no excess productivity from labour

and that’s because on average, 80% of the laborers are wastrel mongs

the thesis only sounds good in the minds of fools

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 11, 2022 10:16 pm

m0ntysays:
May 11, 2022 at 9:55 pm

[JC No, but a large number get fired.]

With humongous golden parachutes.

Poor old m0nty. He’s been asked repeatedly, and failed every time, to explain:
(a) how he knows Australian wages are below equilibrium; and
(b) what C-suite/non-exec remuneration should be in Australia, and what objective metrics determine that.

He just keeps trying to pass off his emotion-laden value judgments as some sort of analysis.

It’s desperately sad.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:16 pm

Drills

I want you to feel totally comfortable that you’re amongst close friends and that I/we will never hold it against you again if and only if you tell me who got in your ear and suggested that bullshit about halving the dollar. I know it didn’t come from you. Was it Bob K? Tell me, Drills.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 11, 2022 10:18 pm

Finland has an active military 12x smaller than UKR.

A Finn in the UKR independent brigade was unhappy with the training and leadership of both the RUS and the UKR guys. And not too great about Americans either. He thinks the Russians would bounce right off Finland. Here’s the translated thread, it was interesting.

https://twitter.com/jmkorhonen/status/1523582457437880321 (9 May)

Basically every Finn is trained in national service to fight like guerilla bastards from hell, whereas the Russians and the Ukrainians are still stuck with a lot of the Soviet mindset.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:20 pm

Mick Taylor will be over the moon doing cartwheels.

Stuth, come and enjoy the limelight.

JUST IN – Bill Gates infected with COVID, experiencing “mild symptoms.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 11, 2022 10:20 pm

Oops meant “international brigade”.

Frank
Frank
May 11, 2022 10:20 pm

The reveling in the imagined discomfort of ‘class enemies’ who may in fact be working class.

Lefties hate the bogans, perceived or actual. It is almost axiomatic.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2022 10:20 pm

Anyone bleating about a wage-price spiral has to explain why CEOs can fatten themselves like pigs while workers get bugger all

Micheal Chaney – CEO of Wesfarmers – was being interviewed on ABC Regional Radio, way back when by some arzeclown, who asked him to justify the salaries that C.E.O.’s received as opposed to their workers. Chaney shot him down in flames….

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Thank you BoN, that thread is an interesting read.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:25 pm

Drills,
Please!!!

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:26 pm

Please, as in tell me. Not to be confused with anything else.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:28 pm

Drills,
Was it the Bobster?

Please!!!

MatrixTransform
May 11, 2022 10:29 pm

It’s desperately sad.

to be brutally honest, it isn’t sad, it’s scary

every time these retarded marxists get the notion in their heads that they get to make the rules, they invariably use the law to enslave damn near everybody

then there’s a shit-fight

last hundred years in a nut-shell

Indolent
Indolent
May 11, 2022 10:30 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Teals have daily contact with “ordinary people” coz they give the daily orders to Angel regards her housekeeping duties & Benino regards his duties in the garden.
This also gives the Teals lotsa “multicultural” contact, and they can pretend they mix with people whose ancestral/culutral line is not from an EU member nation.
(Teals may be utterly horrified to chat to Angel or Benino & discover they’re both hardcore Trump supporters)

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 10:30 pm

“Australia” isn’t the market. The world is the market.

Australia is a corporate backwater. We don’t innovate here. We dig up stuff and ship it overseas.

Our polity is full of rentseekers because our economy is built on resource rent.

24% pay rise for CEOs when workers are getting their wages suppressed is not justifiable under any circumstances. Don’t come the raw prawn, Tim N.

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2022 10:30 pm

see, the problem with marxists is that they gloss over the fact that for the most part there is no excess productivity from labour

Which only occurs with a monopoly buyer of labour.

Which cannot happen in a free market, but is guaranteed under democratic socialism and Marxism.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Australia is a corporate backwater. We don’t innovate here. We dig up stuff and ship it overseas.

She’s all over for us then, now that mining is dead.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:31 pm

Sal, (is that better?)

Sal, who told you?

Please Sal.

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2022 10:31 pm

We don’t innovate here.

Why don’t we innovate here?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 11, 2022 10:32 pm

JUST IN – Bill Gates infected with COVID, experiencing “mild symptoms.”

It’s a false flag! Part of the coup.

Coup Dettat!

Don’t you SEE? Gah, you shallow cocksmokers….

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 11, 2022 10:33 pm

Finland has an active military 12x smaller than UKR.

But have historically punched well above their weight against Russia.

Frank
Frank
May 11, 2022 10:35 pm

As opposed to those who smoke deeply of the cock.

Anders
Anders
May 11, 2022 10:35 pm

Bloody hell, young people wanting to afford a house with a decent wage? Rampant communism!!

Bit rich coming from someone who owns an investment property, by buying that property you helped push up the price of housing.

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 10:35 pm

As for Zoe Daniel, Jo Dyer, Monique Ryan, they’re far left progressive Greens and Ryan was a member of the Labor party. You really need to try harder.

Not going to disagree with that, but I suspect the teals who actually get elected are going to be a lot more like the Liberal wets I characterised. The Zoe Daniels of this world are getting a lot of press but they are up against it to actually win. The ones who are just Liberals-plus-climate-change are in a much better electoral position.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:36 pm

Sally.

Pleasey!!

MatrixTransform
May 11, 2022 10:38 pm

Why don’t we innovate here?

spent my 24% on whisky
can only innovate between 1300 and 1700

the rest of the time is spent drinking coffee and reading this poxy forum

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Everybody Teals speak to is oh so keen on a Federal ICAC, renewables, and increasing the GST.

Teals are not insular, they speak to a wider circle than just doctor’s wives.
Teals speak often with the wives of bankers, lawyers & dentists, a real cross-section of society.

(Teals would be baffled to speak to their Filipino domestic staff and learn that Angel & Benino have never heard of a Federal ICAC, think increased electricity bills are a bad thing & would readily drown in the Teal’s houseyard pool anybody who wants to increase GST)

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:39 pm

CPI not slowing.

CPI 0.3% MoM; Exp. 0.2%
CPI 8.3% YoY, Exp. 8.1%

CPI Core 0.6%, Exp. 0.4%
CPI Core 6.2% Y/Y, Exp. 6.0%

Not good.

Zipster
Zipster
May 11, 2022 10:40 pm

Imagine how deranged and sick you need to be to coerce people, by any and all means, to accept an experimental therapy.

a fraudulent experimental therapy

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 10:41 pm

Why don’t we innovate here?

The LNP gutted our tertiary education system and turned it into a diploma mill for Asia.

Those bright sparks who do survive the system as genuine innovators mostly ship themselves overseas at the first available chance.

The fact that you stayed in Oz, Dot, tells me something about you.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:42 pm

30 seconds ago the Dow was up 280 points. It’s now tiny negative. This is going to be very ugly and the Costanza administration doesn’t know that the hell to do.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The LNP gutted our tertiary education system and turned it into a diploma mill for Asia.

Never before have I heard anybody imply that John Dawkins was in the LNP.
Never.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 10:44 pm

Salsie, it was Bob wasn’t it?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2022 10:45 pm

They’re in luck. Looking at prices around my area, apartments in inner Melbourne are sliding in price.

They don’t want apartments – five bedrooms, three bathrooms, home theater, a double garage are just the starting point.

MatrixTransform
May 11, 2022 10:48 pm

I love mUnty

moans about national productivity

runs a fantasy football rort

grid-irony

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 10:50 pm

Salvatore, I am sorry for you and your family that you seem to be so bad at business. Perhaps you should sell up and retire.

MatrixTransform
May 11, 2022 10:51 pm

They don’t want apartments

what 99% of Melbourne cant have

4 walls
4 fences
2.1 km from the beach

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
May 11, 2022 10:51 pm

Monty just claimed, in the space of a dozen or so posts.

.a: tourism is better than mining because more people employed.
. B: our economy is built on resource rent.

You enormous wabblejoweled buffoon.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2022 10:53 pm

Queensland police – the finest police force in Australia..

Two words – ‘Roger Rogerson’ – change the Whiskey inquest

Matthew Condon
Charlie Peel
Journalist
@charliepeeled ?
An hour ago May 11, 2022

It took just two words to bring the renewed inquest into the 1973 Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub mass murder in Brisbane to a chilling standstill on Wednesday.

Roger Rogerson.

The name of the former NSW detective and convicted murderer has hovered around the Whiskey story for 50 years. Yes, he says he was rushed up to Brisbane from Sydney immediately after the fire that killed 15 people on March 8, 1973, to lend his ­investigative expertise to his Queensland police brotherhood.

And yes, he was one of the detectives who interviewed suspect James Finch after the fire – an interview that has been the subject of much speculation. Was Finch verballed? Was he bashed?

But on Wednesday, the whole notion of Rogerson – the killer with a badge – loomed over an inquest approaching its final hour.

A brand new narrative for a very time-worn story was provided to the court, before Coroner Terry Ryan, by the former ACT attorney-general, prosecuted whistleblower and barrister Bernard Collaery.

In the early 1970s, Mr Collaery was working as an investigator in the Special Reports Branch of the Department of Immigration, a clandestine unit created by the federal cabinet to investigate illegal Chinese migration.

He recalled being given a tip-off by an informant prior to the Whiskey tragedy that criminals linked to the Sydney heroin trade were planning to firebomb the Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub while there were people inside.

His informant also mentioned two names that set Mr Collaery on edge: Roger Rogerson and Fred Krahe, a notoriously bent detective who retired from the NSW police force in late 1972 amidst allegations of corruption.

Krahe, some say, was the master, and Rogerson his apprentice.

Tragically, the tip-off and the attack proved to be correct.

Mr Collaery told the coronial inquest that he had raised the warning with Queensland police before the firebombing.

A sex worker informant told Mr Collaery about the recruiting of drug traffickers being done out of the Whiskey and their ability to obtain fake passports.

“The informant produced another young woman who said she had been supplied with a passport to act as a drug mule,” Mr Collaery told the inquest.

“She had been recruited out of (the) Whiskey Au Go Go with the purpose of travelling to Southeast Asia and bringing heroin back into Australia.”

Mr Collaery tracked down the corrupt immigration official behind the passports and grilled him about the operation. The official told the investigator he had heard rumours Sydney’s underworld had grown “jealous” of the operation being supposedly run out of the Whiskey and were plotting to burn the place down.

He intimated the firebombing would not happen while the nightclub was closed but while it was a “going concern”.

The corrupt official also raised the names of Rogerson and Krahe, who were linked to Sydney’s heroin trade.

Mr Collaery said that, after 50 years, he could not remember in what context their names were raised and he could not say they were linked to the fire. His reports from the time were destroyed, but he and his colleagues had suspected the detectives were corrupt.

“Rogerson and Krahe were notorious in those years and my team knew it,” Mr Collaery said.

The warning brought Mr Collaery’s investigative unit “out of the shadows”. He set up a meeting with the head of the Queensland Police Special Branch to tell him about the tip-off.

“I warned my officer in charge that the club would be burned to shut down the club’s recruitment of young female couriers,” Mr Collaery said.

“The thing that made me raise this issue with my boss was that the club wasn’t going to be burnt at night, it was to be burnt as a going concern.

“That’s why we came out of the shadows. I don’t want to dramatise it. It was unusual to come out because, to be quite frank, I didn’t trust the police.”

After the fire, Mr Collaery took a job overseas. He cannot remember being aware that Rogerson was brought in to help on the Whiskey investigation and particularly the rumours that it was linked to the Sydney criminals.

Would it have rung alarm bells if he knew about Rogerson’s secondment, Mr Collaery was asked.

“It would indeed,” he replied.

The story of the Whiskey has been rolling on for half a century and has attracted countless theories along the way – the rumour, gossip, and whispers have swirled around like dust motes.

Was organised heroin importation a thing in 1973?

Was it true that Roger Rogerson was sighted in the Brisbane region just days before the Whiskey was torched?

Plus, if Rogerson did play a central role in the Whiskey firebombing, then isn’t the alleged verballing of Finch now cast in a new light?

They swirl and swirl, these fragile pieces of the puzzle.

Roger Caleb Rogerson will ­appear as a witness before the coronial inquest via video link on Friday afternoon.

One thing, though, is a solid fact: this murderer with a badge has a few questions to answer.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Salvatore, I am sorry for you and your family that you seem to be so bad at business. Perhaps you should sell up and retire.

Explain, in as much detail as you need to, how you arrive at that conclusion.

I’m sure you add more value to the economy than do I.
I’m sure your product/service is in far higher demand than mine.
I’m sure you employ far more people than do I, & pay them far higher.

That notwithstanding, what will be gained, for anybody, by me selling up?

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 10:54 pm

I compared tourism to coal mining, mole. Not other kinds of mining. Get it right if you’re going to have a go.

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 10:55 pm

That notwithstanding, what will be gained, for anybody, by me selling up?

You get to spend more time with your wife?

Hmm, maybe your wife wants you to keep working.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Coal mining royalties & income should be spent only in coal mining districts.
Certainly none of the coal money should be spent in states that do not mine coal.

Likewise for the end products from coal. Non coal mining states should use only windmills & solar panels.

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2022 10:56 pm

The LNP gutted our tertiary education system and turned it into a diploma mill for Asia.

Diploma mill maybe, but the HECS limit now is 109k.

A real “gutting”, monty.

A bloodless gutting with a still living milch cow.

You also stayed monty – you poor thing. I am thinking about leaving.

MatrixTransform
May 11, 2022 10:57 pm

I compared tourism to coal mining

what do you produce mUnty?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

That notwithstanding, what will be gained, for anybody, by me selling up?

You get to spend more time with your wife?

Explain, taking as much space as you need to, why I do not already spend 24/7 with my wife.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2022 10:58 pm

The fact that you stayed in Oz, Dot, tells me something about you.

So, what keeps you in Oz, monty? Inquiring minds want to know!

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 11:01 pm

Explain, taking as much space as you need to, why I do not already spend 24/7 with my wife.

Geez I dunno Salvo, you tell me why you should retire. Maybe you want to be carried from behind the bar in a pine box.

My point is that you whine on here a lot about your business, maybe you should chuck it in if it’s so terrible to work there.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Geez I dunno Salvo, you tell me why you should retire.

I can think of no reason to retire.

Maybe you want to be carried from behind the bar in a pine box.

I rarely set foot in a bar room. Very rarely.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
May 11, 2022 11:05 pm

Monty dismisses 1.7 billion in royalties in NSW alone.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

My point is that you whine on here a lot about your business, maybe you should chuck it in if it’s so terrible to work there.

That was quick.
You’ve gone from I’m bad at business, to I gripe about stuff.
Keep backpedalling, you’ve eventually get to somewhere near normal.

Do you seriously believe business is a waltz through the dandelions in soft lighting?
Of course there are obstacles, some of them quite stupid & government imposed, you know this, as you’re a businessman.

m0nty
m0nty
May 11, 2022 11:10 pm

You’ve gone from I’m bad at business, to I gripe about stuff.

As you say, “of course there are obstacles”… then you whinge about them endlessly. Maybe you’re not good at it.

Or you are good at it, and you just like to whinge.

DaFisk
DaFisk
May 11, 2022 11:12 pm

The LNP gutted our tertiary education system and turned it into a diploma mill for Asia.

Far be it from me to defend the LNP’s proven failure on higher education, but it was actually Rudd-Gillard who uncapped the number of university places while unleashing the VET HELP disaster (where fly-by-night “schools” were raking in HELP loans that would never be paid back). All of this was done with a view to supporting the population ponzi economy.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

As you say, “of course there are obstacles”… then you whinge about them endlessly. Maybe you’re not good at it.

What’s your complaint?

Btw, it is noted you’ve backpedalled to maybe I’m not good at business.
Keep going.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Slomo did himself no favours in tonight’s debate.

DaFisk
DaFisk
May 11, 2022 11:20 pm

Wow, all the cryptocurrencies are getting destroyed. Disaster!

DaFisk
DaFisk
May 11, 2022 11:27 pm

Cryptocurrencies are the worst investment on the planet (other than China indexes) and any financial advisor who recommends them should lose their licence.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2022 11:29 pm

Anyway “Sliante” to all you horrible mob. Night, all.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Anthony Albanese:

I believe good government can change people’s lives for the better. Good government can help people build their dreams and aspirations

God help us if this piece of work becomes PM.

DaFisk
DaFisk
May 11, 2022 11:44 pm

God help us if this piece of work becomes PM.

Yeah, the guy’s a total disaster – just imagine what he might do! Like cancel two submarine programs and drag out our acquisitions by another 20 years or fall asleep while our neighbours let the PLA set up shop…no, not an Albo fan at all, he’ll be rubbish too, just sick of LNP failure.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 11, 2022 11:45 pm

There is so little variety of choice for the voter in this election that I am giving it a new name.
The Great Preset.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Saying “God help Australia if Albo is PM” is not intended as an endorsement of any aspect of Slomo’s government.

Cancelling the croissant class submarines was one of the better moves he made (presumably we can thank Dutton). It is distressing to see Slomo being flayed for it.
When there are so many things for which Slomo can be deservedly caned.

John H.
John H.
May 11, 2022 11:51 pm

Study investigates antibody-mediated response against different SARS-CoV-2 variants

I’m not going try to understand the variances! Interesting study.

DaFisk
DaFisk
May 11, 2022 11:55 pm

Cancelling the croissant class submarines was one of the better moves he made (presumably we can thank Dutton). It is distressing to see Slomo being flayed for it.

We just needed to buy some fucking subs. That’s it. That’s the plan. But we couldn’t do that because Chrissy Pyne and South Australia something something, and now we aren’t getting any for 15-20 years at least. Our government is broken. It will be truly hilarious if Albo cancels the latest deal once again. As a country we probably deserve it.

JC
JC
May 11, 2022 11:56 pm

My point is that you whine on here a lot about your business, maybe you should chuck it in if it’s so terrible to work there.

That’s just not true, Fatboy. Drills is one the best businessman the country is blessed with.

Drills, who was it?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 11, 2022 11:58 pm

MatrixTransformsays:

May 11, 2022 at 10:57 pm

I compared tourism to coal mining

what do you produce mUnty?

What do retired truck-drivers on the couch produce?
What do PhD candidates produce?
What do people re-building a burnt out house produce?
What do guys playing with air-con ducts produce?
So many questions.

John H.
John H.
May 12, 2022 12:11 am

Sancho Panzersays:
May 11, 2022 at 11:58 pm
MatrixTransformsays:

May 11, 2022 at 10:57 pm

I compared tourism to coal mining

what do you produce mUnty?

What do retired truck-drivers on the couch produce?
What do PhD candidates produce?
What do people re-building a burnt out house produce?
What do guys playing with air-con ducts produce?
So many questions.

Better off being an influencer on Tik Tok. At a weekend dinner someone told me about a lad they know of 18 years who has already made circa 7 million being an influencer. Imagine that sort of money at that age. A couple of weeks ago SBS had a doco on “Tik Tok houses”. All under 30, some making very big bucks. Mostly done with phones, no fancy sets, nothing complicated, and all of it mundane if not trashy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 12, 2022 12:27 am

Any word on Gonzalo Lira’s whereabouts?

DaFisk
DaFisk
May 12, 2022 12:58 am

Sweden officially ends 80 years of neutrality, signing a bilateral defence pact with the UK, in what will be a waystage leading up to its formal application to join NATO. More blowback from Putin’s failed invasion of Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/haynesdeborah/status/1524357143377367040

John H.
John H.
May 12, 2022 1:07 am

DaFisksays:
May 12, 2022 at 12:58 am
Sweden officially ends 80 years of neutrality, signing a bilateral defence pact with the UK, in what will be a waystage leading up to its formal application to join NATO. More blowback from Putin’s failed invasion of Ukraine.

It’s all going to plan Fisk. Putin is in control and lulling everyone into a false sense of security.

DaFisk
DaFisk
May 12, 2022 1:19 am

It’s all going to plan Fisk. Putin is in control and lulling everyone into a false sense of security.

Indeed, it is a FEINT, no less!

Winston Smith
May 12, 2022 1:24 am

Zipster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwVld2u-PQI
Is there a betting market on how quickly Karine Jean-Pierre plays the Race/Sex/Whatever Card? I’m going to put my house on the second meeting. Leftists cannot not play the card if they are challenged.

John H.
John H.
May 12, 2022 1:28 am

DaFisksays:
May 12, 2022 at 1:19 am
It’s all going to plan Fisk. Putin is in control and lulling everyone into a false sense of security.

Indeed, it is a FEINT, no less!

It is beginning to smell like below. Fisk if you haven’t watched this give it a go. A hilarious account of military incompetence and stupidity.

The Russian 2nd Pacific Squadron – Voyage of the Damned

DaFisk
DaFisk
May 12, 2022 1:40 am

Thanks John, will bookmark.

DaFisk
DaFisk
May 12, 2022 1:44 am

As a side note, I’ve been saying for years that decoupling from China is inevitable and desirable, and with Chairman Xi smashing all his best cities (Shanghai, HK), other countries in the region are well placed to substitute China. Vietnam catching up rapidly to Guangdong in export volumes, after catching the wave on Covid relaxation, is very very welcome news. Only dumb globalists want to double down on investing in China.

https://linkpiz.com/china-vietnams-exports-far-exceed-shenzhen-and-catch-up-with-guangdong-so-why-not-be-too-nervous/

Winston Smith
May 12, 2022 2:24 am

Calli:

Looking at all the solar arrays on my travels, something occurred to me.
They are in arid areas. They lose efficiency with dust accumulation. With a scarcity of water, how are these massive “farms” cleaned? And how often?

They have to be cleaned – with pure water. The stuff that comes out of the ground, with all its impurities and solids will screw them up in a couple of years. So it all has to be purified probably by reverse osmosis just like the desalinators. And be just as energy hungry.
I don’t know where the power comes from. If it comes from the farm itself, that will probably mean half the power goes into maintenance, but if they tap it from the point outside the meter that gives the daily output it would make the output numbers much better.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 12, 2022 3:32 am

Speaking of panels solar, very witty writing at Quadrant:

The Riddle of Ms Spender’s Absent Solar Panels

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 12, 2022 3:41 am

Took a tour around Colchester Castle today with a tour leader who was rotund and earnest and occasionally funny, but suffering from the usual British disease. This disease expects everyone to agree with her politics, so when she said the Romans made their Emperors into ‘Saints’ after their death (not so, they made them deities, but I let that be) she said imagine if that happened today, we’d have Saint Boris, and made a face expecting rousing agreement. Most people nodded in politeness smiling and I think most agreed. It’s the BBC line, just as ‘climate change’ lowering the level of the ancient castle water well is also received unevidenced wisdom, which had Hairy spluttering in the background.

As light relief, I managed to be the only person to bump their head moving through the very low tunnels between arches in the the old Roman foundations of the castle. Do not raise your head from a crouch until both your feet are in the next room, instructs my loving husband after the first crack but still I managed to do it again. The Temple of Claudius was built on these foundations, and Boudicca’s razing of this temple is still in evidence there and in other sites in Colchester.

We then decided to visit a site out of town which is now thought to have been where Claudius first arrived with his elephants to receive tribute from local area tribal kings. It was a big lonely parade ground where after the 60AD revolt the Romans relented in their religious persecution of the old druidic ways and allowed construction here of a Romano Briton temple to the Britons’ war god Camulos (also called Mercury in the Interpretatio Romana). A defanged war god. Eiddyn by another proxy, in my book.

We had some difficulty getting a fix on this place simply called Gosbecks, as the guide only said it was west of the city wall by about 4.5km. We headed in that direction down a Gosbecks Road, and were then lost until I spotted a sign off a ring-road saying Cunobelin Road. That’s a clue, go there, I say excitedly, for Cunobelin is Hound of Belinus, which is ‘the shining god’, another Odin/Eiddyn proxy. We then pass by a housing estate with a road in call Gladiator Way. Another clue, so keep going, I say, they are inflecting things around here that signify its history. And then we spot the lonely field with a worn-out interpretation sign, and stop in the rain and howling wind and glove-worthy cold and imagine Claudius taking over Britain from here. I walk out and trot around exploring happily in the sudden gale for marked footings of the temple and the Roman theatre, but Hairy sits fixed in the car refusing the budge. He’s happy for me though. I am having such a good time, I tell him when I return wet with flattened hair and steamed-up glasses.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 12, 2022 3:48 am

Tour leader at the castle told us of the origin of the idiom ‘to get hold of the wrong end of the stick’. There are often ‘long drops’ in old castles, a privy with a hole in it over a chute leading to outside the walls. You wiped your btm with straw or cloth on a stick, and sometimes the stick was used to poke the stuff further down the chute with a bucket of water to follow. Grabbing the stick quickly could mean you might get the wrong end – an unpleasant grasp!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 12, 2022 3:58 am

Time is speeding away here, what with history explorations and meetings re the future of my ancestral church (rather in-camera so I can’t say much about it, but a fascinating insider’s view of wheeling and dealing under ancient legislations and Parish Pump politics). Given all this, plus catching up with old friends, we have had a very busy time so far. Heading for London on a day trip by train from Colchester on Friday specifically to vote for Daniel Lewkovich in Wentworth for the Federal election. No point in trying to take in the car to central London. So it will cost us at least a hundred pounds each in return fares to do our civic duty. Cheap at the price, I say. We have to support Daniel in Wentworth, to show the wet Libs what we think of them.

Tom
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